Ep 254: Kevin Ryan & H. Foley w/ Mark Normand & Sam Morril - Are You Garbage - We Might Be Drunk Podcast

Summary

We Might Be Drunk – Ep 254: Kevin Ryan & H. Foley w/ Mark Normand & Sam Morril – "Are You Garbage"

Release Date: October 20, 2025
Hosts: Mark Normand & Sam Morril
Guests: Kevin Ryan & H. Foley ("Are You Garbage" Podcast), Big Jay Oakerson, Luis J. Gomez, Joe List

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Overview

This high-spirited episode of We Might Be Drunk welcomes Kevin Ryan and H. Foley from the Are You Garbage podcast for a balls-out, multi-guest comedy hang in NYC. Joined by frequent collaborator Joe List, Big Jay Oakerson, and Luis J. Gomez, the group shares stories of the comedy grind, road antics, brushes with celebrity, debates about sports fandom, the evolving face of comedy, and of course, classic bits about drinking, bodily functions, and the peculiarities of New York life. The conversation moves between nostalgic, poignant, and riotously unfiltered, offering a look inside the camaraderie and competition of stand-up.

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Main Topics & Discussion Points

1. Comedy Road Stories & Celebrity Encounters

• Joe List at Chappelle's Compound:

  • Joe shares a surreal story about a Midwest diner experience and getting invited to Dave Chappelle’s "shack" (a literal barn-bar with a DJ) after a sold-out theater gig in Dayton, Ohio.
  • He nearly misses the invite due to overthinking his text to Chappelle and because he double-books himself with a bar show. Ultimately, he parties with Chappelle, smokes cigarettes to fit in, and learns Chappelle is a fan of the pod.
    • “He was like, ‘I’m in the cut.’ And I don’t know what that means, but he’s just cool. Turns out it’s just his wife’s birthday.” – Joe List, [06:04]
    • “That’s some real Midwest shit. So I get a photo with all of them. I smell like hash browns.” – Joe List on the Fred's Diner encounter, [03:32]

• Celebrity Name-Dropping and Awkwardness:

  • The comics riff on their own brushes with legends (e.g., Joe’s regrettable "Jonesing for that hang" text to Jerry Seinfeld) and struggles with networking anxiety.

2. Sports, Fans, and Celebrity Culture

• Armchair Analysis of Celebrities at Sporting Events:

  • The crew bemoans "celebrity row" at the US Open, questioning which celebrities actually care about tennis, sports fandom hypocrisy, and shout-outs to Ben Stiller and niche picks like Jack Nicholson.
    • “Anyone who’s a Yankees and Lakers fan, it bugs me a lot.” – Mark Normand, [16:54]

• Fandom, Money, and Aging Gracefully:

  • The group riffs on celebrities embracing age, with Jon Bon Jovi noted for aging well versus those who chase youth with surgery.
    • “Guy aging gracefully.” – Luis J. Gomez, [15:20]

• Scandal Commentary:

  • Hot takes on public shaming, the perils of social media, and the viral video of a millionaire grabbing a kid's souvenir hat at the US Open.
    • “My thing is, if it’s a little kid, just let the kid have this.” – Mark, [66:49]

3. Inside Comedy: Nepotism, Social Media, and Changing Landscape

• Famous Folks Cutting the Line:

  • Debate about streamers and influencers (e.g., IShowSpeed) being given stage time at clubs, and old-school comics’ feelings about "cutting the line."
    • “If you have huge followings, you get to cut the line… but are they going to have the drive to tough it out?” – Big Jay Oakerson, [33:09]

• Navigating Industry Changes:

  • The hosts joke about the transition from hustling in clubs to being leapfrogged by celebrities during the Crashing HBO shoot era.
    • “[We] were standing on the corner barking… and Pete Holmes was 13 feet away shooting an HBO show about barking. He’s like, ‘Are you guys barking right now?’ We’re like, yeah, man.” – Big Jay, [36:25]

• Work Ethic & Humility in Stand-Up:

  • Discussion of how growing up with privilege contrasts with the grind required for success in stand-up.

4. New York Living vs. Suburbia

• Life in NYC:

  • Touching nostalgia about the unique energy of New York – all-night hangs, stumbling out at dawn, encountering the city’s constant momentum.
    • “You like you’re passing a baton in a race. I’m goin’ in for the night. You pick it up.” – Mark, [78:55]

• Weighing City vs. Suburb Living:

  • Jay and Luis talk about spending summers in the suburbs for family sanity but never being able to walk away from the city’s pull.
    • “I can’t explain it, but I’m part of the city. I struggled here for so long.” – Big Jay, [77:44]

5. Peeves, Toasts & Bodily Function Bits

• Peeves:
  • Mark: Annoying long texts that end with “thanks” (implied as passive-aggressive) and long-winded voice notes.
    • “Thanks is a substitute for ‘go fuck yourself.’” – Mark, [45:10]
• Toasts:
  • A recurring segment where the group raises a toast to the "little things":
    • The magic of a clean, healthy poop or a "one-wiper" ([47:03])
    • Cancelled plans ([100:19])
    • The first sip of coffee in the morning ([105:49])
    • Not having to type in a password again ([100:07])

6. Pop Culture & Comedy Lore

• Comedy Movie & TV Recs:
  • Recommendations for underappreciated New York movies, Force Majeure, High Maintenance, and shout-outs to classic sitcoms.
• Comedy History, Legends, and Cautionary Tales:
  • Absorbing discussion of the Louie show’s realism, the mentorship of legends, controversies (Arnold Schwarzenegger's affairs, Cosby’s hypocrisy, assisted suicide in comedy).
    • “If someone is too outspoken about something, they're hiding something.” – Joe List, [96:23]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Overthinking Texts to Comedy Legends:

  • “I’m just jonesing for that hang, Jer.” – Joe List, [05:00]
  • “If you’re really tight. But you weren’t… I was trying to force the tightness, which is really bad.” – Mark & Joe, [05:34]

• On Mark’s Roast Joke for ‘Crashing’:

  • “Pete, Jesus isn’t coming back and neither is your ex-wife. They both got nailed and are in a better place now.” – Mark, [39:05]

• On Arnold Schwarzenegger:

  • “Of course he’s gonna fuck the nanny. The intro to his movie was about coming!” – Big Jay, [24:33]
  • “He must have really slayed through LA. Just the gash he was inhaling…” – Joe List, [25:43]

• On Cancelled Plans:

  • “Canceled plans is a biggie.” – Mark, [100:26]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:32] — Joe List’s diner story, meeting Fred and his sons (“real Midwest shit”)
• [06:04] — Joe’s story about nearly missing Dave Chappelle’s invite
• [11:08] — Chappelle complimenting Joe’s gay heaven joke (Stanhope episode)
• [16:54] — Mark on sports fandom hypocrisy (“Yankees and Lakers…”)
• [33:09] — Conversation on influencer/legacy acts cutting the line in comedy
• [36:25] — Jay recounts Pete Holmes shooting ‘Crashing’ as comics bark for real
• [39:05] — Mark’s roast joke that made it to HBO (but his scene was cut)
• [44:49] — Mark’s peeve: “Thanks” in emails/texts
• [47:00-47:52] — A “toast” to a one-wiper, Mark and Joe riff on ideal poops
• [66:49] — The US Open hat-grabbing debacle
• [78:55] — Classic New York energy: “Passing the baton in a race…”
• [96:23] — Joe List on Cosby’s hypocrisy (“If someone is too outspoken…”)
• [105:49] — “A toast to the first sip of coffee in the morning.”

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Notable Pop Culture Mentions & Recommendations

• Classic Movies/TV: Louie, Crashing, Seinfeld, Family Ties, High Maintenance, Force Majeure
• Comedians’ Career Paths: Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Adam Ray, Tony Hawk, Ben Stiller, John Reap
• Random Life Bits:
  • Smoking in bars in the 2000s NYC
  • The myth of clean vs. dirty comics and professional bitterness
  • Coffee as both ritual and coping mechanism for stand-up life on the road
  • The ever-present smell pitfalls of travel and touring (planes, hotels, taxis)

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Language & Tone

The language is raw, conversational, and packed with inside jokes, fast barbs, and the easy camaraderie of comics at the top of their game. The tone rotates from sentimental and self-deprecating to gleefully filthy, with a frequent undercurrent of camaraderie, frustration with the business, and deep appreciation for the shared struggle.

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a representative hang of NYC stand-up, balancing war stories, advice, and ball-breaking. It’s a must-listen for anyone curious about the life, hierarchy, and friendships formed in the trenches of comedy – as well as the nostalgia, grind, and small pleasures that keep comics coming back for more.

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Tour Plugs

• Are You Garbage podcast’s fall tour: San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Boston, Atlanta, Raleigh, Philly, Toronto, and more ([118:14])
• Mark Normand: International tour including Carnegie Hall
• Joe List: Various comedy clubs in the US and Ireland

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For fans of inside-baseball stand-up podcasts, road stories, and the peculiar joys/trials of NYC living, this is a rich and raucous listen.

Transcript

[Mark Normand]

Oh my God. Hilarious.

[Joe List]

Put it in the bar or something.

[Mark Normand]

Look at these. This is hilarious. Who would wear these? Jesus Christ, you wear them every day. Are we on the air?

[Joe List]

Oh, geez.

[Mark Normand]

Size 13. This is my size too. What the hell?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't.

[Mark Normand]

I'm not. I don't think I'm gonna wear these.

[Joe List]

They don't look bad. Except for our dumb faces.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, they're cool without our face. Yeah, with like a suit. Maybe.

[Joe List]

A little better. A little better.

[Mark Normand]

You're all right.

[Joe List]

Yeah, There you go.

[Mark Normand]

All right. So, man, feeling all right? Feeling a little. Little shooken up a little bit, but. Shaken up?

[Joe List]

What. What happened?

[Mark Normand]

Oh, just the. The hard drinking weekend.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that'll get you.

[Mark Normand]

How about you? You. You had a. You had a fucking night.

[Joe List]

Speaking of hard drinking, I got a drinking story for you. Yeah, so do Akron on Friday. Killer. Akron's wild. It's like the 50s out there. Bowling alleys and bar and diners and.

[Mark Normand]

Women can't get an abortion.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Whites only. It's crazy. But did Akron. Got the rental car, drove my fat ass to Dayton three hours.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Had a.

[Joe List]

We hit a diner in the middle of Ohio, me and Sean Murphy. I go, let's hit a diner. I'm hungover, I'm gay. Let's find like the most diner. Ice diner.

[Mark Normand]

I love a diner. A diner, yes. There's one in Rochester that's like a.

[Joe List]

Box car that I go, oh, I know that.

[Mark Normand]

I love a good box car dine.

[Joe List]

That's a great one.

[Mark Normand]

Love a fucking good diner.

[Joe List]

Yeah. So a real greasy spoon. So we find a place called Friends and we get in there. It's got the cat on the wall, the clock, you know, with the eyes and the tail, like old school.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Pull it up.

[Joe List]

Celicus Fred's. Fred's in Akron. And you know, the cash. She's one of those old metal ones. Every lady's name Blanch or Gertrude. They got a pencil in their hair. I mean, classic diner. Wacky wallpaper.

[Mark Normand]

Attitud. Yes.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that's it. Friends. Look at that. I mean, it's in the sticks, baby.

[Mark Normand]

I like it.

[Joe List]

The food was great, great coffee, the whole thing. But I looks.

[Mark Normand]

That looks like a great greasy spoon. Great diner type of breakfast with those types of hash browns hits.

[Joe List]

And the prices were from the 50s too. I gotta say.

[Mark Normand]

I love that too.

[Joe List]

Yeah, I know.

[Mark Normand]

Veeder always resents it a little when I. When I get out of it unscathed. 9.99 omelet. He's like, you're a lucky bastard. Fuck you.

[Joe List]

He's a gold digger.

[Mark Normand]

He's a little gold digger. He wants it y.

[Joe List]

So we go to Fred's. I walk in, is a little bit of a wait. And a guy in the kitchen is eyeballing me. Young, scruffy guy. Look at that. That is classic. Yeah, the, the stools and everything. Kitchen guy's eyeballing me. Scruffy guy, shaggy hair, you know, 20 year old, 18 year old kid. And he goes, I'm like, all right, this guy might recognize me. We sit down, the lady brings us the food. She goes, it's on the house. The kitchen knows you. And I go, I'll pay. It was like $23 for the meal. I was like, I'll pay. I feel good paying. It's fine. She's like, it's on the house. So I drop a 50 on the table.

[Mark Normand]

How you do it?

[Joe List]

And the guy, the lady goes, just saying, it's on the house if you meet the guys in the kitchen. And I said, okay, no problem. So I go in the kitchen, they.

[Mark Normand]

Grab you, they start beating the shit out of you.

[Joe List]

I go in the kitchen, it's like three guys and they're all aproned out, you know, covered in egg yolk and jizz and all this shit. And they're like, hey, we're big fans of comedy. Great to meet you. I'm, I'm Bob, this is Bubba, this is Dave. And then the old guy turns around on the griddle, he goes, and I'm Fred and these are all my boys. So they're all his kids.

[Mark Normand]

I love that.

[Joe List]

It's some real Midwest shit. So I get a photo with all of them. I smell like hash browns. I get out of there on the wall now. Oh, that would be nice.

[Mark Normand]

Nothing's finer than in your diner.

[Joe List]

Name an omelette after me. Will you remember that episode? Of course, yes. Seinfeld. She'll have the broiled chicken. So. So we drive to Dayton. And I'm like, all right, I'm going to Dayton. You gotta think. Okay. Chappelle's compound is 5, 50, 45 minutes away in Yellow Springs. He's got that new club out there. So I go, I have his number. He invited me out there during COVID Yeah. Which was very nice. And I couldn't do it for some schedule reason, but I still had his number.

[Mark Normand]

The club.

[Joe List]

Right, the club.

[Mark Normand]

He asked me to play as well. It was. I was flattered as hell.

[Joe List]

Yeah, I'd love to, but I couldn't make it Work. But. So I said, let me just text him. Why am I such a pussy? Why am I so scared of confrontation and bothering people? I'm texting him. So I text it. I deleted text again. Ah, that's no good. Delete it. And I just said, fuck it. Hey, Dave, It's a long shot. I'm in town at the theater. It's sold out. If you want to pop in, we'd love to have you. No pressure. Send. 30 minutes goes by, 45 minutes and nothing. An hour had nothing. Whatever.

[Mark Normand]

Just like, why'd I drop the N word?

[Joe List]

Yeah, I'm trying to be cool. I know. I was quoting Chris Rock's bit.

[Mark Normand]

No, I. Do you do that when. With, like, the comic legends you like.

[Joe List]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

You stop, you start. You're like, what do we.

[Joe List]

Well, you know my famous Jerry text that I got made fun of for, like, four years again, I hadn't talked to in a while, and I said, hey, Jerry, I'm jonesing for that hanging. I remember which everybody. People wore shirts to my show. Jones for that hang. You're a douche, you're a homo, whatever.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, we all. We all misfire.

[Joe List]

Yeah. And we did hang out, so it wasn't a total loss, but.

[Mark Normand]

And you were jonesing.

[Joe List]

I was. I was joining. But I wrote Jer, which was a real problem. J, E, R. Hey, Jer.

[Mark Normand]

That's rough. That's not great.

[Joe List]

Not great.

[Mark Normand]

I mean, if you're really tight. But you weren't.

[Joe List]

No, we weren't.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

But I was trying to force the tightness, which is really bad. Yeah. So. So I go, okay. Pushed it. Nothing back. Now it's like 5 o'. Clock. I get to the show at 6:30 shows at 7. I get the call from Dave. Dave Chappelle. Phone ringing. I swipe it and I go, hello. And he goes, hey. Hey, Norman, it's Dave. What's up? I'm like, I'm just getting ready for the show. I would. I know it was a long shot. We'd love to have it.

[Mark Normand]

Red Fox.

[Joe List]

And he, using cool slang, he's like, I come by, but I'm in the cut. And I don't know what that means. Yeah, I think that means I'm in the woods or I'm in the. The middle of something. I don't know. He's in the cut. So he goes, I'm in the cut. It's my wife's birthday. I can't come by. I gotta go do her thing. But I appreciate the invite. And I go, yeah, Man, I wasn't trying to overstep. I just said he go, no, no, no. It meant a lot to me that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You want to hang out.

[Joe List]

I appreciate it. I can't go tonight, but let's hang out after.

[Mark Normand]

He's so down to earth.

[Joe List]

I know. He's so normal. So I was like, I'd love to hang out after, but here's the thing. I'm such a psycho. I booked a bar show after the theater.

[Mark Normand]

You have. Something's wrong with you.

[Joe List]

Something's wrong. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Bail on the bar show for the Chappelle hang.

[Joe List]

Well, you know me. I want to make it all work. So I go, hang on. I'll see after the show. But I have a bar show. I'm a psycho. And he goes, you're not a psycho, man. I get it. So that was cool. And then he. I go, I'll do the bar show, and I'll come right to you. And he goes, all good. Whatever happened, I'll be out all night. I see the crazy. He's a night owl, big time. So I do my show. It was killer. Dayton crowd was amazing. Then we drove to this place called Bricky's, and it's like a bar restaurant with a bunch of tables. I go up first or second, I go, hey, let me do less time. I'll cut the money in half. The guy goes, no problem. We do the show. I get out of there, and I text Dave.

[Mark Normand]

They're in the back. They're like, you can keep all the money if you meet three guys in the back.

[Joe List]

They beat the shit out of me. So I get off stage. I text Dave, go, hey, man, hit me with that address, baby. And then Sean Murphy goes, o, baby.

[Mark Normand]

And I go for that hang, baby.

[Joe List]

So I edit it, and I just take off the baby and I go, hit me with that address. I don't want to be like, he's on some gay. What's he doing? You know? So I.

[Mark Normand]

He called him baby.

[Joe List]

I was.

[Mark Normand]

I was in Jerry, Jer, and Chappelle, baby. I was, what's happening?

[Joe List]

I was rolling. I was in the moment. I was cooking up.

[Mark Normand]

What's up, player?

[Joe List]

What's up, dog? What's up? Up my end? All right.

[Luis J. Gomez]

So.

[Joe List]

So I'm like, all right, let me text Dave. We'll get that address. So now we went for. It was like. It was like the movie Swingers. We. We run off stage. We're sitting in the car in the parking lot of Brickies. Go. Just waiting for that address because we got to know where to go? And it's 10:45. 11, 11:45. Like I also have a 6am flight because I try to get back for the baby. So that means I got to drop the rental car off. You know, we got to get there at five Drop. Rental car.

[Mark Normand]

You're an all nighter.

[Joe List]

I guess so, but you know, you do it for the story. So I'm like, ah, now it's 11:30 and he's not writing back. So then Sean goes, you might have to hit him again. And I'm like, I can't do the double text. But I never got the, the reply. And I go, what about this? What if we just start driving towards Yellow springs because it's 45 minutes away and then maybe he'll text and then we'll be already on the way. And he's like, yeah, that's good. But what if he never texts? Then we drove out there for nothing. So now we're in this big debate and I go, fuck it. And I just start driving. So we start driving to the Yellow Springs. Nothing. Every five minutes I'm looking, nothing, nothing. Now we're in Yellow Springs, just sitting there in Yellow Springs. I get the call, hey, it's Dave, here's my address. And he hangs up. He just goes, I'm at 802 Franklin Street. Hung, hung up. And I was like, 802 Franklin. 802. Put it 8:02. I'll try not to forget it. And we show up, we get. We're at his house in the woods. Literally just a house, like a regular old house. And his pictures everywhere. And he's got a bunch of people dancing and food out and gives me a drink. We chat it up. We chat for like a half hour. We do some zigging, some zagging. He goes, I'm going to my shack. And I go, what's the shack? I thought it was like a nightclub or something called the Shack. It's literally a barn in the woods that he has a bar in. A DJ set up.

[Mark Normand]

Just a private bar.

[Joe List]

Private bar, like his little man Cave kind of thing. And his assistant.

[Mark Normand]

Man cave has employees.

[Joe List]

Yes, exactly.

[Mark Normand]

Know you're fucking loaded.

[Joe List]

He hits a thing on the wall and he goes, he goes, hey, come on out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We're here.

[Joe List]

And a DJ comes out and starts DJing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So they're just blaring like on retainer.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He just.

[Joe List]

Yeah, he's like the best money I ever spent was this guy. He's amazing and he was a great dj. He's playing Creep and all this shit.

[Mark Normand]

With the house or something?

[Joe List]

I think so, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Butler, he's got a DJ.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yeah, that's the black.

[Mark Normand]

My DJ.

[Joe List]

So the DJs cooking and we're talking, and how about this? Yeah, we're all drinking. Dave. I started smoking cigarettes, by the way, because I didn't want to look like a dork. He's like, you want one?

[Mark Normand]

I was like, a few cigarettes this weekend, too.

[Joe List]

There you go.

[Mark Normand]

You get drunk and they taste good.

[Joe List]

I know, I know. And I got all juiced up.

[Mark Normand]

When you bum one from a lady, now you're smoking a Slim, you're like, God, I don't look cool.

[Joe List]

Oh, hate us to live.

[Mark Normand]

It feels good.

[Joe List]

Slim is bad. So I go, she's the lady.

[Mark Normand]

I'll tell you.

[Joe List]

That's true.

[Mark Normand]

All right.

[Joe List]

So then we're chain smoking, we're drinking, and he goes, hey, man, I gotta say, that joke about what gay people see when they die, that killed me. Oh, wow.

[Mark Normand]

The Stanhope episode, that was incredible. That was one of the. That maybe the best riff.

[Joe List]

Oh, thank.

[Mark Normand]

Well, that shows history.

[Joe List]

But that means he saw the show. He watches the show, Dave.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hey.

[Joe List]

Then we hung out. That I drove. Hey, the boys are here. What's shaking, gang?

[Mark Normand]

Guys.

[Joe List]

Hey. Hey. Good to have you back. We gotta go. We got a couple of beers, no pressure. Half a cookie, Chub. Good to have you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thanks for having us.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Tell the story. Who are we talking about?

[Mark Normand]

He was at Chappelle's, man.

[Joe List]

I went to the Chappelle Compound or whatever.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, really?

[Joe List]

I just randomly texted him in Ohio and he said, come on by. Yeah, it's one of those scary texts, you know.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Thanks, bud.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, that's a big matzo ball hanging out.

[Joe List]

Exactly, exactly. Thank God he replied. Mark.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Mark Norman. Hey, buddy. That's awesome.

[Mark Normand]

But, yeah, young Chappelle there. All right, cheers, boys.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Here's gang.

[Mark Normand]

Look at this garbage.

[Luis J. Gomez]

All right.

[Joe List]

I love that sound.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Talk about tanking a Monday early. Here we go.

[Joe List]

Hell, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I got a great bottle, too. A High Life bottle.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Between this and a Bud Light, can I always lean bottle.

[Joe List]

You gotta go bottle. It's like. I feel like Shawshank where they're paving the roof.

[Mark Normand]

I do. I do love a bun.

[Joe List]

Those few hours.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, it was a porter.

[Joe List]

A porter.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It says a porter beer, which is like.

[Joe List]

That's a thick.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's a heavy beer.

[Luis J. Gomez]

They made that look like it was a Corona.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah, the glistens great Gold liquid in the sun, man. And then on the roofs of one of our own houses and Then they had that. That Italian broad doing the opera.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah. When he broke.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I don't know what that lady was singing about. You don't speak Italian.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Mark Normand]

We had Rainn Wilson on here. Who does not like Shawshank.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What?

[Joe List]

That's what I said.

[Mark Normand]

That's a hot take he had. You know what, though? I appreciate that. He had some hot takes.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, hot takes.

[Joe List]

He hated women. I guess that's how that happened.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Check the history books. That's a pretty good date.

[Mark Normand]

He ate a Goonies.

[Joe List]

Hated Goonies.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Which.

[Joe List]

I get behind that one.

[Mark Normand]

No, I don't.

[Joe List]

I like the kids movie.

[Mark Normand]

I still like it, though. It's still a classic.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Not for nothing. You brought him up. Not that I'm talking trash. I don't know if he's a big tennis guy, but the US Open, all those celebrities up there, like, what are you talking about? You see one tennis match every six years. You're up to acting like the kids. Your. Your son. Shut up. They're going to do the.

[Joe List]

Oh.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh.

[Luis J. Gomez]

They are into it.

[Mark Normand]

Are you. Are you into tennis or.

[Joe List]

I like tennis.

[Mark Normand]

It's fun.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I've never been to a bite in my hat because some fucking other millionaire. You don't give a shit. Give me a fucking break. Hot take.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Big man's got two sips of highlights.

[Joe List]

I love.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Watch out.

[Joe List]

Rainn Wilson's getting it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Everyone.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I'm just saying. You don't like Shawshank.

[Mark Normand]

Fuck the US Open. Celebrity Road, dude.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's just. I mean, come on, Go sit and watch it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If you got invited, you'd be up there.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I would not.

[Mark Normand]

I would.

[Luis J. Gomez]

They own the team. And Ben Stiller is different. They go all the time.

[Mark Normand]

Ben Stiller is a hardcore sportsman.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Yeah. I can already picture Foley there. Like, he's got chocolate all over.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

12 seconds.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Look at this guy. That thing wasn't in one of those. Oh, that was at the US Open. It was in like a. Like a cup.

[Joe List]

One of those boats. Yeah, that's all right.

[Mark Normand]

Look at these outfits. People.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I know.

[Mark Normand]

Rest of the night.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He's got the earpiece on. He's got to hear what's. Shut the up. You got to hear what's going on. Oh, come on, man.

[Joe List]

Is that there.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. The official hat. Give me a break. Stop it.

[Joe List]

Is that Taylor Swift? Newly engaged.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Shout out to him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Shout out.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, he really. It's a different look.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I like that, though. That's nice. They're back there chilling. They're having fun. You know what I mean? Yeah, People like sitting in the throat. Oh, yeah. Rain Wilson was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I gotta say. He's only. He's only saying this because we just signed a deal with Garage Beers that Kelsey owns. Really?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. You defended him really quick. I was like, man, that's kind of weird out for you. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. He looks lovely.

[Joe List]

Who's that guy? The virgin guy?

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's Jon Bon Jovi.

[Joe List]

Oh, he went white.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I got a hot take on him. Not a hot take, but I just want to say that.

[Joe List]

Sorry.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That guy aged and grew into his things. Awesome.

[Joe List]

I agree.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He didn't keep the hair.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He doesn't.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He doesn't look like a guy in Long island that had a fucking band in the 80s. That's.

[Mark Normand]

He grew like Steven Tyler.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He grew into the billionaire that he is or whatever.

[Joe List]

You know, the rich gentleman obsessed with the surgery, the botox, the hair transplant.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He's got nothing.

[Joe List]

Guy aging gracefully.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. When you look normal, you look. You're like, oh, that's like a drop. Refreshing just to see a 72 year old guy.

[Joe List]

Now don't. I want. I don't want the ladies doing it. They look like that guy's got to keep it type. Hey, Hoffman.

[Luis J. Gomez]

There you go.

[Joe List]

I did see Jason Biggs. The celebrities get better and better each night. You know, you're like Rita Rudner.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Start with the openers. Who's featuring tonight?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Is that Clinger from mash? What are we doing here?

[Mark Normand]

Gary Veer? How the hell did you get the hell in there?

[Joe List]

Let anybody in here?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, Gary sneaks into the place, doesn't he?

[Mark Normand]

He does. He's got the con.

[Joe List]

That's.

[Mark Normand]

No. Some of these rockers, somebody.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Now none of these photos are proving my point, but I caught a clip last night, I believe it, where it was like an intense man. They're all doing all that stuff.

[Joe List]

It's like.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Come on, man, stop.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah, it's.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Shut up.

[Mark Normand]

If you're a psycho fan, I'll give it to you, but I'm with you. They get a little.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

One. One game every.

[Luis J. Gomez]

They're playing the part. They got a little.

[Joe List]

Right. Yeah. Free tickets. Oh, even he's doing it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Donnie.

[Joe List]

Wow. They got him with a pill.

[Mark Normand]

He's just mad that a. That a Spaniard was in the country. That's what it was.

[Joe List]

That's his face. Boys, get her.

[Mark Normand]

Get him out.

[Joe List]

Jack Nicholson was doing it back in the day.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, but he was a psycho. And he was like. He was getting in fights with Polanski in Chinatown. Cause they couldn't finish the fourth quarter of the Lakers. Like throwing his TV on the floor. He's like, fuck you.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's a little intense.

[Mark Normand]

He wants to watch Magic.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Crazy.

[Mark Normand]

It was before Magic.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I guess he's a die hard Lakers fan.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, he's old school.

[Joe List]

You know where he's from?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Who?

[Mark Normand]

Jersey.

[Joe List]

Jersey Jack.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe List]

Is he. I didn't know that too.

[Mark Normand]

Anyone who's a Yankees and a Lakers fan, it bugs me a lot.

[Joe List]

Little bit.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I get it though.

[Mark Normand]

I get it, but it bugs me a little bit. No, but you kind of get the best of both worlds.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sure, sure.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But I mean, he's earned it.

[Mark Normand]

He's earned. You know, I love Nicholson.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He proved himself out in la. Made a lot of good pictures. Be a Lakers fan.

[Mark Normand]

He should be a Knicks fan.

[Joe List]

That's fair.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He should be a Knicks fan.

[Joe List]

But he lived out there.

[Mark Normand]

He did.

[Joe List]

Remember Mark Cuban would get out there.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He owns the team.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That'll give you.

[Joe List]

He would really get out there.

[Mark Normand]

Steve Ballmer, same. That guy looks like he was coming. He was cheering so hard, he was going crazy.

[Luis J. Gomez]

We have some bozo in Philly that's trying to do it now in the Sixers, he's like. So he did it last season. They kind of got checked a little bit. I think I could be talking out of my ass. There's some rich guy that sits like in that row on the Sixers, and he's like real close to the bench or whatever. And he's really, you know, over. He's trying to be.

[Mark Normand]

Look at that guy. He's going nuts.

[Joe List]

Yeah, he had a.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did he. I mean, he defended himself against the whole.

[Mark Normand]

Who knows what happened there. Yeah, there's. God, that guy's got to stop digging.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

All right. Nothing to see here.

[Mark Normand]

This ain't all the President's Men. Paul Blotori.

[Joe List]

Stop it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Where did that come from?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, he's doing all this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Some blogger.

[Mark Normand]

He's a. No, he's a. He's a journalist, that guy. But it's. He's driving me nuts because now he's going after the Knicks.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, it's enough of that.

[Joe List]

What's he doing?

[Mark Normand]

You better stop digging.

[Joe List]

Digging?

[Luis J. Gomez]

No, the guy, he's trying to prove.

[Mark Normand]

That they're paying players on the side.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Through like other deals, kind of the salary cap.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Right.

[Mark Normand]

Circumventing the cap.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Got it.

[Mark Normand]

Pablo.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Some players on the team have some no show jobs that they do endorsements, certain construction.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So it went to like a shell company or like a Startup. That was like a 28.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Hey, by the way, it's not a shell, it's a startup, okay?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's a startup company. But then they let the bet. They let that go bankrupt. That's how they got caught. It's like, how do you let the. I don't know.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Aren't you supposed to walk away from it?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Well then now you're in this fucking.

[Joe List]

Trying to win some games here.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. What the fuck?

[Joe List]

What about Shalamu? He's always out there at the Knicks games.

[Mark Normand]

But he's a. He's a hardcore fan.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Who?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's a New Yorker. Chalamet.

[Mark Normand]

Well, yeah, he's a real fan.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sure.

[Joe List]

He's always dressed a little kooky.

[Mark Normand]

I like it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He's into the fashion young kid.

[Joe List]

He doesn't even care about Kardashe Whore. He's just like, hey, he.

[Mark Normand]

Dude, he made her a Knicks fan.

[Joe List]

Yeah. There he is.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Damn. That guy does what he wants.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Sure.

[Mark Normand]

He wasn't. He could film a movie whenever he wants. He was like, I'm taking the playoffs off. I'm going to go to the Knicks games. I respect it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Is that true? He called that?

[Mark Normand]

It seems like. It seems like he's always working, right?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Sure.

[Joe List]

Yeah, he's good. He's a crazy looking guy. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Odd face. Sharp, sharp face on him.

[Joe List]

Got rodentia.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Why does Rodney keep coming back up?

[Joe List]

That's a mirror.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's my screen. Pretty good looking guy.

[Joe List]

He's got to have a screensaver. He hates his child.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wait, the background on your computer is Rodney Dangerfield?

[Joe List]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There's no one closer to you in life than Rodney Dangerfield.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Damn.

[Joe List]

Shout out to Sally.

[Mark Normand]

His nightstand next to his bed is red buttons.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Good night.

[Mark Normand]

Red jokers were two people.

[Joe List]

I liked it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

What have you guys been up to? I mean, you've been on the road.

[Luis J. Gomez]

We weren't. We're off. We were off for the summer. Kippy had a baby. We're getting ready to ship back out in September.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I do have to say, very un. You were the only person like outside of my immediate friend group that texted me.

[Joe List]

Ah, true.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A lot of. A lot of dms, obviously.

[Mark Normand]

I saw you at Ari's place.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, at Ari.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw it.

[Joe List]

I apologize.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I would have text. I said, I've gotten. But out of nowhere, which I hadn't talked to. You're like, congratulations.

[Joe List]

Well, I. When I had to be, I got so many that it touched me. I was like, oh, my God. I didn't know Joe Derosa knew my name or whatever, but so then I'm.

[Mark Normand]

Like, I wrote you. I guess this is it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

And yes. Never. But so I said, when I. When I see a friend with a baby, I'm texting, texting him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Appreciate it. It went a long way.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. When a little something from the heart comes from Norman out of nowhere, I tell you, it really goes a long way.

[Joe List]

It wasn't easy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I. I sat in drafts for a while. Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It really strikes you, you know, it takes Mark.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I was like, that's what I was like. Oh, wow.

[Joe List]

That's a.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You know, that was a. That was a big one.

[Mark Normand]

Any good baby advice from Mark at gbt?

[Joe List]

No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, you're. You're a little older. Your kid's a little older than mine, I think.

[Joe List]

Seven and a half.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I'm at three.

[Joe List]

Oh, wow. You're in the thick.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, it's just getting. It's just getting out of it a little bit.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's, you know that you did the whole thing.

[Joe List]

Oh, the. Took off from the road and really just went in and boy, you don't get any sleep. You're delirious. You got on your shoulder, you puked in your hair. You're a whole different person, huh? It's Mr. Mom. It's bad.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I thought you went and took the the 50s route.

[Joe List]

I tried.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Light a cigarette, walk out to everybody. Call me when he's two.

[Joe List]

Yeah, don't worry, I got help. I hired a lot of Jamaicans.

[Luis J. Gomez]

There you go.

[Mark Normand]

How many Jamaicans?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

First one in a bowl on that one.

[Joe List]

Feel the rhyth.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Or just baby stuff?

[Joe List]

Baby slit. They cook.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, they don't eat. They have like a.

[Mark Normand]

Your baby to eating some jerk chicken.

[Joe List]

Oh, I would love that. I love a good bump of clocks.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But get to buy your beef patty, man.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, the oxtail man.

[Joe List]

No, they did the dishes, vacuumed and stuff because sometimes the baby goes to sleep for like two hours. So I think they feel weird just sitting there. So they're like, I'll do the dish.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Oh, look at that. Kippy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Uh huh.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What'd you tell me what your girl did?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What?

[Joe List]

Oh, you got a lady?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, we got. I got a lady.

[Joe List]

Polynesian or Thai?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

White lady.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, that's.

[Joe List]

I can't afford that Ukrainian at least.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, full blown. She's from Seattle. She's older. An older lady? Like, not older. She's more. Her kids are raised, so she's more. More of like, you know, older, older broad.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You like something a little war torn?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, like Ukraine. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Some off the books.

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Now you want. It's hard to complain to just a regular white woman.

[Joe List]

That's true. And then they complain. They have a microaggression. A me day.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You don't need to hear that.

[Joe List]

You don't hear that from a Jamaican. Sure, sure, sure.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What's it?

[Luis J. Gomez]

You're pulling up the shorts like you're with the nanny.

[Joe List]

Nanny boy. Maria Shriver had a real. That face could cut glass.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A little chalamet, kind of.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

He really did it.

[Joe List]

He really did.

[Mark Normand]

Came to America, dominated, got a Kennedy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Such a great burbit of like. Why don't you. Why. Why would he not think he could.

[Mark Normand]

Incredible.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like he's been in the zone for 40 years. He's been killing it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I mean it didn't really seem to affect anything. He's got a nice kid. For sure. She gets taken.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, but that kid. Whenever they take a family photo that other kids like in the corner somewhere or. It's always kind of rough.

[Joe List]

He looks just like him too. It's great. Crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Pretty wild. Oh my God. He looks like a little Arnold. A little of.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's only three months there.

[Joe List]

Who's the guy? Andre the Giant.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He does.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Hey, that must have been it. Steamy.

[Joe List]

Oh, the maid.

[Mark Normand]

Sex behind one thing to the maid. You can't come in the maid.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Crazy.

[Joe List]

No. You figured she'd clean it up. You come anywhere, she'll get to it. But that's the thing, is there's a woman in the house. Like a. Women always go, what the hell? Why would he cheat on Maria? It's like it's a different vagina. It has nothing to do with how hot.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's too close. Proximity too.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. I like Michelin food. Probably better.

[Joe List]

Man, look at that. Look.

[Mark Normand]

But if Popeye shows up, you can eat it.

[Joe List]

Exactly. There's no logic to it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And let go. Right there.

[Joe List]

What do you mean?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Once we go back to that picture.

[Joe List]

Was that. Gotta hit the back button.

[Mark Normand]

Didn't he get cracked? Didn't Arnold get a little for groping back in the day?

[Joe List]

He did. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

In the movie.

[Luis J. Gomez]

There's one thing on his mind and it ate. What's for dinner? I'll tell you that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean even that, even that. The beginning of Pumping Iron. Isn't it just like it's all about coming and pumping and coming and punts. Of course he's gonna fuck the nanny. What are we talking about? The intro to his movie was about coming.

[Joe List]

He didn't grow up enough to not be the Governor of California.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Governor of California.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did you. Did you watch his documentary?

[Joe List]

I did.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's kind of funny. He's like. Feels bad about his dad for being a Nazi and coming home and losing the war. He's like, those Nazis, they really, you know. Hey. Where they felt really bad afterwards.

[Joe List]

Really glossed over that. They did.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Are you talking about this or the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The documentary that came out, like, whatever last year.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They try to, like, sympathize that. His dad. He's like, my dad came home with problems and, you know.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's crazy. So a young Arnold Schwarzenegger was. Was a young kid in Nazi Germany.

[Mark Normand]

He was in Austria.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Austria. In World War II. He was.

[Mark Normand]

It's funny to talk about a Holocaust. World War II. And he's just like, race. Just pumping.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Coming in the gym.

[Joe List]

I'm getting the feeling of coming at home.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And then Annie stage when I pump up. When I bows out in 5,000 people, I get the same feeling.

[Joe List]

So I'm coming day and night.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dude, he sounds so crazy, man.

[Joe List]

He must have really slayed through LA. Just the gash he was inhaling.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, the 80s. Must have been a.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What are you, my drunk uncle?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Lot of talent, a lot of trim, huh?

[Joe List]

Great.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The gash.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that's cool.

[Mark Normand]

But, yeah, he must add a fun life.

[Joe List]

Oh, forget about it. And then he's the Terminator and then he's the governor. I mean. Yeah, he's living it up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were just talking. It was in something of. He made the most money on twins. 40 million or something.

[Mark Normand]

Same with Ivan Reitman, I think. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because they just took everything on the back end and it was like a. Still VHS sales.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that's always the weird. You know, what's the Aerosmith guy, Perry Tyler. He made more on Guitar Hero than he said in all of his years. Guitar Hero video game.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's phrase.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I thought you're gonna say more off of Armageddon.

[Joe List]

Oh, I'm sure that didn't hurt, but. Yeah. Yeah. So you never know what's gonna. Oh, Tony Hawk. More money on the video game.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

And, you know, years of everything.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He told us that he went to meeting with his agent, said, you know, what's the check for this thing? And he gave him like a check for like a million bucks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think it was the first check he got was like $6 million.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Imagine that.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, I'm glad.

[Luis J. Gomez]

A Panera Bread you get checked for 6 million.

[Joe List]

Was that your office?

[Luis J. Gomez]

He said they were not for lunch. I don't know I don't know what this guy eats.

[Joe List]

Oh, you had him on the pod.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We had him on the pod, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

He's a Norman fan.

[Joe List]

I know. Get him on the pod.

[Mark Normand]

He was saying that Mark's a good skater. I saw that clip.

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah. Meant the world to me. I never. That's one of those. You never think you'd be there.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You're very humble about that, too, you know, really bringing up.

[Joe List]

Up what?

[Luis J. Gomez]

That tight little body.

[Mark Normand]

Get a couple more. Get a couple more drinks in him. He'll talk about his skating.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

My trophy at the. My house.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You have a trophy?

[Joe List]

I won a couple competitions. What?

[Luis J. Gomez]

I didn't know you skated professionally.

[Joe List]

Well, I wouldn't say sponsor, except for. Yeah, yeah. I was a kid. It was like comedy. My. Before. Comedy. Comedy. You know what I mean? Like, I was obsessed with it. It's all I did. I had eight friends. We all did it together every single day for nine hours a day.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But you did competition when you were a kid in New Orleans.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Damn, that's pretty good. And you won a couple.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, sure.

[Mark Normand]

It's kind of like having like a side hustle thing. Like. Like the way, you know, a guy shows up to a pool hole and you're like, oh, this guy's fucking good at this. When you just whip it out, it's kind of shocking.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, it's very shocking.

[Joe List]

Yeah. But also, I did it before black kids started skating, so that was a little. It was easier.

[Mark Normand]

Just another thing they took from the white man. God damn it.

[Joe List]

Well, it was a very segregated. Like, we had a. We had a black guy in our group, Marcel, and he was a really good skater. And black guys would be like, what you doing, man? I mean, it was 1976.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Skateboarder, back in the 80s and 90s. That must have sucked 100%. Talk about blazing a trail.

[Joe List]

I remember hearing a interview with. With Urkel, Jaleel White. Thank you. And he said he went to. He was the only white kid or only black kid in an all white school in Pasadena. And he was Urkel at the time. And he said he got bullied quite a bit and it was racial. So he left and went to a black school. He got bullied more.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Really? Because he was Urkel. Urkel showed up to the hood, they went to town on his ass. He was like, I should have stayed with the. The whites, man.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Or just dropped out of school and get homeschooled. You're Urkel. What are you doing?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Go to Chinese school. Something.

[Mark Normand]

That is a Tough as a tough character to be in high school.

[Luis J. Gomez]

For some reason, I see him walking around in the outfit too. I don't know why.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, that is tough to try to be cool.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You know what I mean?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When that is your kind of spur.

[Mark Normand]

He's at the same high school. Webster. Get him.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Gary Coleman. That guy must have a horrible childhood.

[Joe List]

Totally.

[Mark Normand]

I mean, that's. I want to bully him right now. Look at this kid.

[Joe List]

And then because he was in high school, he was trying to be cool.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. It's like there's no way that guy can come to.

[Mark Normand]

But he is kind of a cooler guy. Like, when you see him interviewed, like.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't buy it. You're trying. But when he's still a door.

[Mark Normand]

But when he turned into Stefan, you're like, he is kind of cool.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know Stefan or Kel. He's. No, he's still the guy that I would. If I was like, I see him as. He's still in high school. Like, he's never not going to be that nerd.

[Mark Normand]

It's crazy. He never really did another thing because that show is so fucking big.

[Joe List]

Well, it's like the Seinfeld curse. If you're so good it actually hurts you. Yeah. Type life later.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Remember him talking about that? But they talk about why they wanted the money.

[Joe List]

Who?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Just Jason.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That interview where he said how he. Not that they ruined television, but the reason that they asked for so much money was because we might not be able to go on. On and do stuff after this because.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We'Re going to be so.

[Luis J. Gomez]

George.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Yeah. But then it shows you how great Dreyfus is because she still prospered.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Low key. She's the. Has the best career of like anybody ever.

[Joe List]

Easily.

[Mark Normand]

Best career. Yeah. Best comic actress ventures of old Christine.

[Luis J. Gomez]

New original Christine.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Snl.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Snl. Now she's in Marvel. No, I'm just saying after. After Marvel.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I'm just saying.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I'm saying the whole career she's picked up in a storyline for out of the last couple that they did. And she's in Thunderbolts, which is like the next Avenger.

[Mark Normand]

It's funny that you're in Marvel. To me, that's like the least impressive shit she's done money, though. I am sure. Yeah. But she's fine.

[Joe List]

Yeah. How long did Christine go on? What was that? Was that at least for you?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, it was a handful.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Emmys.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Veep is.

[Joe List]

Well, her dad's super loaded.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Her dad's like a billionaire.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, something like that.

[Joe List]

Which also proves a point, you know, you can be rich and still fun. Sure. Everybody thinks you got to be a fucking prior in a brothel.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, I think for. I think for stand up, you need.

[Joe List]

To.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Prohibit your work ethic. I feel.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, she's naturally funny. She'll be funny on screen and sketches, whatever.

[Mark Normand]

But, like, well, you want to get.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Good at stand up, you really have to have a fucking gun to your head.

[Mark Normand]

You have to have humility.

[Joe List]

You gotta be hungry. Yeah, that makes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because, like, I remember, like, you know, somebody like, who had money or whatever would just be. We'd be like, barking and whatever. They're like, I'm not doing that. Like, they could bypass a few steps of, like, I'm past this.

[Mark Normand]

I bar for years. My parents had money. I mean, you know, wasn't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Twerk ethic.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. They're not you.

[Joe List]

Sammy the inner flame.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's right.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

So I just.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Fighting the dog.

[Joe List]

I just met this kid. I show speed. You ever see that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, I saw this crazy, crazy clip.

[Joe List]

But it just shows this guy's the most famous person on the planet and he. He couldn't do stand up.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, well, you didn't give him the best advice.

[Joe List]

No, I was trying to be funny. No, I know.

[Mark Normand]

It was hilarious.

[Joe List]

Great show.

[Mark Normand]

But then he. But then he really, really took your advice. I'm like, no, he was kidding.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Mark was with you.

[Joe List]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Look at how many people are watching.

[Mark Normand]

The stream right here.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

43 million.

[Joe List]

Great.

[Mark Normand]

43 million people watching. How many people hit you up about that?

[Joe List]

I think I got one follower.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He wanted to stand up.

[Joe List]

Million comments and DMS and all that.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Wow.

[Joe List]

And then people would, like, all these blue checks are liking my clip, but I'm like, you would have never liked my clip before. But because.

[Mark Normand]

And you might not like my comedy. Yes, but you like this. I did see a bunch of comics.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are very salty about this too.

[Mark Normand]

In the comments. Comments. Did you notice that?

[Joe List]

About what? What?

[Mark Normand]

They're like, why would I work so hard to get on this stage and let this guy do a backflip?

[Luis J. Gomez]

People watching them walk around.

[Joe List]

Exactly.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's why he's there. Wait, what's the big deal?

[Mark Normand]

You're shocked that entertainment isn't a lower democracy? Yes. You're shocked.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's not like he's getting spots every. Every night.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He did the like was like a promotional thing, right?

[Joe List]

Yeah, he wanted to try it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. He was on set for. He was on stage for like 18 seconds.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. But people who have. Have huge followings, get to cut the line. And we watched it when we. I remember there were people with the last name of a famous dude who got the cut in front of me who weren't funny. Yeah, but they were. They were. They had an in.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I think. I know you're talking about.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, there was a couple from family.

[Joe List]

Tide end up serious.

[Mark Normand]

No, but you had like. Well, you're like. But it's like, you talk about having that in. Are you. Are they going to have the drive to stick around?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You have to do it. It goes back to the. You have to work.

[Mark Normand]

Are they going to have the drive to be like, I'm going to tough this out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That was just a stunt.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's a social thing. Yeah. We talk about.

[Joe List]

And I think it helps us because it shows. Hey, this millionaire famous guy can't do it. So it actually looks better on us, I think.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. Good for the club. You know what I mean? Everything.

[Joe List]

That's him. Mark Price.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I always love Skippy.

[Joe List]

He did stand up. Wow, look at the hair on that guy. Holy.

[Mark Normand]

I never saw that show, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't think I ever.

[Joe List]

What? Pretty good one.

[Luis J. Gomez]

A family ties guy.

[Mark Normand]

I know, I know. I. I just, you know, you some slip through the cracks.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

There was a crunchy liberal family and the sons are like a die hard Republican.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I was right there. I was. I was at the perfect age when it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

When it dropped.

[Joe List]

Norman.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Was that set up at all, like, organized at all? Like, hey, no, it's just rain. Just randomly popped in. I mean, I knew that. I think he had it set up with the club.

[Joe List]

He's got 18 guys, lights all over him, cameras all over him. He had a bunch of riders with him. And one guy was like, he's about to go on. Give him some advice. Cause I was. He bumped me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

And I was like. And I slid in the frame. I was like, just say the N word. It was the first thing I thought of.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Wow.

[Joe List]

And then we riffed a little bit and then he did hit, which I didn't know he would. And then he did a backflip. Then he ran off. And that was it. The whole thing lasted 38 seconds.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Quick thinking. So there's a whole squatter in him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's not just like, oh, yeah, they got bodyguards. And. Yeah.

[Joe List]

It's like I showed up to the stand. I was like, why is it like 30 cops here and cars, lights waiting?

[Luis J. Gomez]

That would drive me crazy. That I get.

[Mark Normand]

The cops just saw a black guy walk in they're like, we got to do something. This is crazy.

[Joe List]

Well, I was hoping Aaron Berg got shot. You never know. So that's. This business.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

This.

[Joe List]

Damn.

[Mark Normand]

That is crazy. So he had a ton of security and stuff.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

He's so famous. See, I. I don't. I know he's who he is, but I don't know. I've never seen anything he's done.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't think this is all he does. It just streams.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, but it's so. It's YouTube. It's like a YouTube guy, right? Who's the. Who's the other guy? Oh, Twitch.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think it's. I think it's mostly on Twitch.

[Joe List]

Yes. Sison. Sigh.

[Mark Normand]

Tyson. See, I know the names, but I've never seen any of it sound like.

[Luis J. Gomez]

A couple old men I know.

[Joe List]

Couple of. Boom.

[Mark Normand]

I show speed. What is it?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

43 million subscribers on YouTube. And then there's some open microphone, like, he bumped me. Shut up. This guy could buy and sell most of Manhattan.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Let him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Let him do a backflip.

[Joe List]

And he was. He started in his room with eight Fox. Sure.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They all did. They all up.

[Mark Normand]

Do you think, like, Royal Rumble guys are like, I had to work hard.

[Luis J. Gomez]

To get to this stage. No, they want in there because they know it's getting eyes on everything.

[Mark Normand]

Exactly.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. You know, everyone has their path. I get being a young comic feeling that way, though.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because you're like.

[Mark Normand]

Because we were that way and we had that, like, purity to it. Like, if someone famous who just didn't give a shit about what. You give a shit. Bump. You're like, fuck this guy. Sure, I get it.

[Joe List]

Sure.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He probably said it about you two at some bar show back in the day.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Fucking Norman coming in here, cramming into nine spots in one night, murdering.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And I gotta go up after you looking like a dork.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were.

[Joe List]

Were.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because we were in the Village. We were like. You guys were already in the club. So we were like, still, like the Village Lantern days when they started shooting all of those. There's always a TV show, like, crashing all. Just all that. It seemed like there was. It seemed like. I remember we were standing on the corner barking, trying to get a show off, and Pete Holmes was shooting an HBO show about barking, like, 13ft away. And he's like, are you guys barking right now? We're like, yeah, man.

[Joe List]

Wow. You're like, this is the documentary?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, this is. This is really. We're really trying to do it.

[Joe List]

It.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Damn, that was always rough. Not.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You know, you're Just, like, watching, like, I'm. You're, like, literally sitting there, like, oh, free comedy show. And then they're like, h. The Jud Apatow's there. And you're like, I am. It's right there. And we are so far away.

[Luis J. Gomez]

God, I forgot about that. It was in, like, a little video village.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Damn. That was like. Those productions were huge. Huge. You don't think about that, but you're like, they're shutting down two blocks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Shut down McDougal, like, you know. Yeah. For.

[Joe List]

They have craft service. They had a guy, a lady with a headset with a clipboard. Hey, you can't go here. I mean, that shit was huge.

[Mark Normand]

Not for much longer. Are they shooting shows that way?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, that was when, like, productions were still production.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It used to be such a bag of mixed emotions. Like, on. You didn't know. It was when you got down to the Village that night, you didn't know that was there. And then that was just, like, another added thing.

[Mark Normand]

They shot this thing at the cell.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You know, want and whatever.

[Mark Normand]

They shut down the Cellar for a while for this. Remember this Will Arnett, the Bradley Cooper film?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. It's coming out soon.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Right.

[Mark Normand]

It looks like it could be interesting. I mean, it's like. It's, like, kind of artsy. It's. It doesn't look like it's going to be funny. It looks like it's going to be, like, a drama.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

I'm going with low expectation.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I feel like they miss a lot.

[Joe List]

How many bad standup movies there are. Oh, I do love Laura Dern.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Are we get.

[Mark Normand]

Is she doing the pod or what?

[Luis J. Gomez]

They're getting the D. Really?

[Mark Normand]

Let's get the D. Whoa.

[Joe List]

Hell yeah. The Durninator.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Salicus of the Hollywood connections. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

That was a Salic pull.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I was digging through a traction mat.

[Mark Normand]

Got it.

[Joe List]

All right. Can we go back to Rodney? I'm sick of seeing my dumb mug next to his handsome white teeth. There we go. All right.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's fun, though.

[Joe List]

But. Yeah. And remember when you see Crashing being shot, you're like, maybe I just hang around. They'll throw me in it. I always had that thought. I never got on it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You were thinking that. Yeah, that would make sense. All right.

[Mark Normand]

I. I was on. But they cut me out. I was in. I was in. I was in the. But it didn't suck that much because they. We. I was in the roast episode, and I guess Pete Holmes character and his girlfriend roast each other, and it's like, you know, they're both comics and it was roast battles and roast battles like popping off. But they gave us a writing credit because I fed them a couple lines. I gave a line that she used. I remember being like, that was a pretty good fucking line I gave them. So they paid me. They paid us as writers for that episode. We had a nice check. Yeah, I think the line I gave. I think it was Jamie Lee. I gave her a line where, like, she was like, say something mean about Pete being religious or something. Or something like him being cheated on by his wife. That was the start of the show. So it was like something along the lines of, like, Pete, Jesus isn't coming back and neither is your ex wife. They both got nailed and are in a better place now.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Great joke.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You worked that on the spot.

[Mark Normand]

They were like, come up with a couple weeks and it would have been worse. I fed it to them and then Mateo and I roasted each other on stage and we had some good lines on each other. It was pretty fun. But, yeah, they cut us out. But it was, you know, it's all good.

[Joe List]

But you had to sit on a right side those. Yeah, a lot.

[Mark Normand]

A little bit of work I wrote a little bit. So it was fun.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No, I was gonna say the most surreal thing with the, you know, the movies and stuff like that was I worked at a Greek cafe on the corner of Bedford and Morton in the West Village when Louis was, I guess, lived over there. And he was filming the show at the time. And I would see him, like, actually walking his kids to school. And then I would see him later filming that same thing in the production.

[Mark Normand]

With actors crazy, like girls playing his kids.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I would see him living his life and filming his life at the same time. It was so surreal.

[Mark Normand]

Kind of the dream. He's kind of. You're like this guy did.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I was so into the show at the time, though. It was like. It was nuts.

[Mark Normand]

That show was inspiring.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. Oh, very. The three episodes of Trying to get.

[Mark Normand]

Late Night Dude, I was literally just gonna bring up.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I watched it every six weeks.

[Mark Normand]

I was gonna bring up the David lynch thing. Yeah, that was one of the funniest.

[Joe List]

Things when he goes, be funny right now. And he goes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I thought you were a newsman. You're a con. I'm a comedian.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Comedian. I thought you were a newsman. Comedy's about timing, son. You gotta get. You gotta tell him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You gotta keep him.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He just doesn't say anything.

[Mark Normand]

It all starts because he gets bumped on Leno or something.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yes.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Tom Cruise went long no, Tom Cruise wouldn't show up because I got him on motorcycle.

[Mark Normand]

That's what it was.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He doesn't like surprises.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yes. The best thing about that. I tried to ask Louis about this after we did. After we had him on, but I totally botched it. And he looked at me like I was an idiot.

[Joe List]

Yeah, he does that.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The Garry Marshall fucking. And I couldn't articulate.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I gotta push back. He gave it to you. We had a good conversation about it. We did, yeah. Yeah. I think you were just freaking out. He gave. He gave it to you. He was like. Yeah, I was like.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He really trying to articulate it in, like, a non goober way of, like, what that meant and, like, you know what that means. You know, just the way Gary Marshall does that speech to him and, like, tells him the line, oh, I can get Jerry Marshall. You're encircling failure in a rapidly decaying orbit. That is always, always stuck with me. That's every. That's all of it. You know what I mean?

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Crazy. A circling failure in a rapidly decaying.

[Mark Normand]

It's crazy when legends talk about it like that way, because I remember reading an interview with Conan and him being like. Like this. When I'm dead, it's like, no one's gonna think of me. And you're like, conan thinks that way. None of this means anything.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. But as far as, like, a young comic seeing or, you know, seeing that fucking, man, those episodes are great.

[Mark Normand]

Well, that show would be so funny one minute, and then it would have these kind of poignant moments where you're like. It would. I mean, dude, the episode in the Hamptons where he does a gig with.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Jerry when he gets the astronaut's daughter.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. And he accidentally punches her.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

That's one of the funniest episodes when.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He'S on the phone with Jerry. Oh, what do you think?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It look.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Looks like me getting involved in this situation.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Gary's such a prick.

[Joe List]

It's so good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's so great, so perfect.

[Mark Normand]

He's so great.

[Joe List]

So perfect. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hampton suit, tucks black.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You know, these are the billionaires and trillionaires of the Hamptons. There's trillionaires. I don't know, maybe.

[Joe List]

Didn't he bang Joan Rivers in one?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Or did they bang. I know.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah. No, she reluctantly was like, yeah, all right, fine.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But that was. There was a. There was. As a young comic, there was great lessons in that where, like, even in that one where he was, like, shitting on the casino, and it was in his contract he's not supposed to shit on the casino. And she's like, who the fuck are you? Yeah, she would take this guy's money and then shit on him and then.

[Mark Normand]

Not know the manager's name. That was the other thing. She's like, you don't know. You work with him and you don't know his name? Yeah, that had lessons.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There was moments where, like, I find myself over. Like, you're like, oh, yeah, what the fuck? I was asked to be here. Be a fucking professional and do your.

[Joe List]

Sure. Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The security. Jack it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Because he forgets a blazer. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Shows up in a T shirt and jeans and, like, a yellow cap.

[Mark Normand]

By the way, I have been there on private event things where they're like, that's what you wore. And I'm like, I. I don't know. I. Yeah, I was like, I. Yeah. Oh, what are these, Patagonia?

[Luis J. Gomez]

What are you talking about?

[Joe List]

I have the same tour manager as Louis. So I was just an Akron doing some gigs. And he was like, man, I was watching Louie's new hour. It's unbelievable. He's such a genius. That guy watches. Watch him fix jokes and make it work. And I'm kind of like, yeah, about two hours I'm shooting in a week. And he's like, the Thai food's here.

[Mark Normand]

Remember one time we were watching Dave Attell at the Comedy Cellar, and Chappelle leaned over our shoulders to just watch Attell. And Mark turns to Chappelle and he goes, do you like Dave? And Chappelle goes, yeah, he's probably my favorite. And we're like. Mark and I were both like, whoa. Like, this is pretty cool.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's really cool.

[Joe List]

Yeah, very exciting.

[Luis J. Gomez]

There's all those guys that you just, like, just tickled it, you know? You see me, like, man, we just.

[Mark Normand]

We're just nerding out. We're just like, this is crazy, Todd.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Barry gets me like that all the time still. Oh, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, Todd.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Dude. He'll hit a couple things. I'll be in the back dying, dude.

[Mark Normand]

So I was with Todd last night. He broke five fucking ribs.

[Joe List]

He did.

[Mark Normand]

Todd broke five ribs. So he was walking with a Walker. We run into Amy Sedaris on the street.

[Joe List]

Whoa.

[Mark Normand]

And she goes, oh, my God, Toddy. And she's nice at first, but then she goes, by the way, that Walker not doing great stuff for your age. And I was like, oh, my God, you just got zinged by Amy Sedaris. He laughed. It probably hurt a little bit, but he laughed.

[Joe List]

How'd she look.

[Mark Normand]

She looks good.

[Joe List]

She was cute. She never knew for how cute she was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, now I'll give you that for sure.

[Joe List]

Very cute in her day. Had a crazy rack. Big fan.

[Mark Normand]

What are we. So these are these peeves or what are these? Toast. So this is stuff, people. Yeah. So we peeve a lot in here, as people know. So Mark and I were like, we should be more positive. We don't always have to bond over negativity. We could bond over some stuff we all like as well.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Things that go unappreciated.

[Mark Normand]

Like a toast. Like, oh, this is always. I mean, I got some peeves I wrote down too.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You say a toast?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, like a toast, like, to this. I like this.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Oh, okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Big man's got bread on the brain.

[Mark Normand]

I got a peeve actually, though. Can I do a quick peeve, please? People who write you annoyingly long texts and then write thanks at the bottom. Because I think thanks as a substitute is go fuck yourself. They do in emails too, where they're like. It's like. It's like, bless your heart. Almost like. Where they're just like, I can't do this. I can't. Sorry about this. Thanks.

[Joe List]

Right.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I don't understand that language at all. And I am. So. I come across so bad, and I have no idea.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. That's what they say.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, you're a bad text, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A lot of dot, dot, dots. A lot of, like. A lot of like. He makes you re. Explain. Everybody's on the same page. You're in a group text and you're like, hey, something. He goes, goes, huh? And you're like, I just laid it out and like, where's the. There's no, like, also trying to meet you in the middle.

[Joe List]

Big voice.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Voice to text.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, that's a very LA move the LA people do because they're always driving.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, I can't type all that.

[Joe List]

It's a lot to type.

[Mark Normand]

You're not. You're not. I don't.

[Joe List]

Because it never gets it right. I talk weird or my voice.

[Mark Normand]

No, but he's saying the voice.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, he. No, it never picks it up correctly.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then you have to go.

[Joe List]

Then you gotta go ahead.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I wasn't.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Are you voice messages? Yeah, I do get them every once in a while. That is pretty Hollywood. I like that.

[Joe List]

No, I'm talking about just give him a call voice. It spells it out. Yeah, okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, I thought you meant the voice memo.

[Joe List]

I got those. I don't like.

[Luis J. Gomez]

People do.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's Very European. Europeans. My wife does it for, like, they'll be like, I got an 18 minute voicemail. Voice note from whoever. Crazy.

[Luis J. Gomez]

18 minutes.

[Mark Normand]

They don't cut off.

[Joe List]

No. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Not in WhatsApp, I don't think. Oh, what's. They're all in WhatsApp.

[Joe List]

WhatsApp's a whole nother name.

[Mark Normand]

I can't even go in there. I can't do it. I've, like, two foreign friends, and I'm like, I think this is it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's all they talk in.

[Mark Normand]

I think it's over.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm in multiple WhatsApp groups with like, 25 people that are really. I don't even open it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I always thought it was for.

[Joe List]

You know, I see hookers. Hook is, she was a hooker. You ever have this one? You ever have a guy go, can we get a photo? And you get a selfie with some guy and you realize he's on Snapchat and you're like, where's that going?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I don't even. That doesn't exist to me.

[Joe List]

Yeah. I don't even know.

[Mark Normand]

How about the guy who wants a selfie, but he puts the phone down here? I'm like, well, we have to get her double chins in here. Oh, hold it, hold it. Regular.

[Joe List]

He's clueless. You got to go up, everybody.

[Mark Normand]

Women never make that mistake.

[Joe List]

No, no. You got a high all.

[Mark Normand]

So what are the toasts? We got so. Oh, a clean, healthy poop. That's a toast.

[Joe List]

That's a great one.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's.

[Mark Normand]

I love a clean, healthy poop. Don't take a lot of them, but I appreciate them.

[Joe List]

I'll add to that. Go One wiper. You ever wipe once ago? That was it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Baby miracle. That's crazy.

[Mark Normand]

If you ever have a 12 wiper and you're like, how long is this gonna go?

[Joe List]

I hate the 12.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Lord of the R that's coming. The second you get involved.

[Joe List]

You're like, yes. It's like a five napkin burger coming out. Too slow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're like, this is bad, Chris.

[Joe List]

Great joke on Parks and Rec. He's like, it's like a. I got a permanent marker coming out of my ass.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When's it stop? He had a lot of really good jokes, so they, like, made it into the lexicon that I didn't know were from him.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah. You ever seen that clip of him with the Kardashian joke? It did the rounds. It got millions of views, but it's them Bloop, bloopers reel. And she goes, kim, Kardashian. She's coming back. And he goes, I saw that video. She did have a lot of come on her back. And I think in that setting, it's like NBC Offerman's like, it's great.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was so funny.

[Mark Normand]

That made the show.

[Joe List]

No, no, no.

[Mark Normand]

I was like, damn.

[Joe List]

No chance.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It was on the Christmas special.

[Joe List]

Can I grab another beer cooler, baby? Or you can have a hot, hot one out of the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Do you have any garage beer out there?

[Joe List]

Never heard of it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Contractually obligated.

[Mark Normand]

Is it good stuff?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's actually really good. I had it before this ever happened.

[Joe List]

I'm okay.

[Mark Normand]

I'm good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I'm gonna try to do sets later.

[Joe List]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You can throw me the bottle opener.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Sure.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, it's actually really. It's a really good light beer.

[Joe List]

Yeah. I love it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Fantastic.

[Joe List]

Love.

[Mark Normand]

Have you talked to the Kelsey's yet?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, we met them. We met Jason briefly at an event that we were.

[Mark Normand]

And you're big. You're big Eagles, guys.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Big birds. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

That must have been kind of cool.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Cool. Very cool.

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was kind of hit fully with the. Hey, good to see you again. We never met.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Wait for the wedding.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's a pro, though, because it's like, dude, that immediately it was an event for the beer. Yeah, Immediately everybody's just like, take. Read this book. And he's like, they knew he was.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Coming to this town. Like, we think. It seems like weeks before. And even the. Even the places where, you know, he wasn't technically gonna be, they were all packed, right? It was all kids look, you know, autographs and stuff like that.

[Joe List]

Really?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And then he does. He gets over there. This is pretty crazy about as far as, like, work ethic. He gets over to the. The premiere of the short film that they did. Well, you know, comedy thing for. For the brand. Really funny. And he does, like, press before that. He's meeting people there, watches the thing, and then he's doing stuff for it afterwards.

[Joe List]

Whoa.

[Luis J. Gomez]

They had an after party at this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Bar, like a 15 hour.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But the bar, it was like, kind of open, so there was literally just. It was packed with people just waiting for him to walk in. And he came in, and I don't think this was really scheduled.

[Joe List]

Scheduled.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I think it was supposed to be like just a chill after party. He comes in, he comes up the steps, stands, turns right around. Bang. Let's go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Kids that think about, like, you know.

[Mark Normand]

And kids, what is he, John Reap? All right.

[Joe List]

Is he drinking back?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, he was Drinking. Yeah.

[Joe List]

That helps get through it. Yeah, a little bit.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But just to keep going on and on and bang, bang, bang. Just, you know, with smile on his face. Pretty cool.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, like this, but with like, bigger. You know, we've been, you know, around like super famous comics where they're like, hey, what's up? Like, they have to do it, but it's always with like, guys who look like us. Like, ah, big fan.

[Joe List]

Cool.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Create a picture. Yeah, this is like kids. And you're like. You see like, he's like talking to like a 9 year old and he's like, hey, what's up, bud? And you're just like, man, you're all. You have to be on all the time. Just cool as.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Mark Normand]

He seems.

[Joe List]

He's got one kid. You're done.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

He seems like he's got a good personality.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe List]

He's the man.

[Luis J. Gomez]

We saw. We saw Bert do that as well. We did. He did Chicago with Bert. The United Center.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He's like a bunch of stuff before it. Then Bert does. He works out. He goes up into his two hours and gets off that. And then we had a. We met with the guys from the. The Blackhawks. And when he's in there, he's like, he's on.

[Joe List]

You know what I mean?

[Luis J. Gomez]

They're like standing there, like, watching.

[Mark Normand]

They're like, the term is drawing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We're talking to the machine.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

You know? Yeah, he's working.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

And he likes it. He's not like, oh, we gotta go do this.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No, he loves it. But I'm just saying, man, it's such a. The work they put is crazy good.

[Joe List]

You know who has that doesn't get his due? Adam Ray.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, dude, those meet and greets after the break your Phil shows.

[Joe List]

Takes a half an hour 45 to get that on. The mustache, the wig. Then goes out there zinging Zach. Two hours, the crowd. Then he does the guest interview. Another guest, another guest back in the crowd, riffing, riffing. Then he does a two hour meet and greet after.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Crazy.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, you need to drink after all that. Yeah, that's when. That's when you realize, like, booze is like, oh, I first few days of the road, I'm like, I don't need a drink. Then after a couple, I'm like, I need to get fucking hammered.

[Joe List]

Of course.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Just. Yeah. The night they did kill Tony for the Madison Square Garden last year, he showed up to our studio. We were doing something with him in the morning in costume.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, I mean what? Dr. Fucking so kill. Tony went on it, you know, 8 o' clock or whatever. He was at our studio at noon.

[Joe List]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Full fucking makeup.

[Joe List]

Oh, what a beast.

[Mark Normand]

Daniel Day Lewis.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Dude, that. The Tony ones crazy.

[Joe List]

Good, good.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, my God, that was incredible.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Incredible.

[Mark Normand]

That was.

[Joe List]

I was at all watching.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I was Tony Caruso.

[Joe List]

All right.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I love him.

[Joe List]

I was three feet away from the guy and you're like, how's he getting his mouth to do that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I just saw one. I don't know if it's older. I don't. You know, Forgive me if it is, but he's the magician. Did you ever see that one?

[Joe List]

Oh, no.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know. It's. I feel like it's older because I feel like it might have been bigger.

[Joe List]

You know, it's adorable.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He does a magician act, Bruce Robbins, where his, like, hair is brushed back. It's very like David Copperfield.

[Joe List]

Wow. You know what? I think there's something to be said for it. Must be older, backhanded. But there's something to be said for making a little later. Sure you're ready. Appreciate it. Yeah, you're ready and you're like, I'll do whatever. I got a road dog. He opened for everybody. He's always in la.

[Mark Normand]

It's always a good hang, though. He's always a good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, it has to be Bruce Robbins. That's him. That's him in the middle with the bleach blonde.

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a talent everyone's got.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Extremely level.

[Mark Normand]

Everyone's got a.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And the nicest.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, you figure out your lane hands.

[Joe List]

He figured it out. All right. Who knew it'd be a Bruce Robbins Is all right. Crazy, this business.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

There he is. Goes to show, you don't know what's gonna pop.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah. I mean, John Reap. Now Twist offs.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, are they twist Offs? Yeah, yeah. John Reap. That's crazy.

[Joe List]

Crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You probably don't even know who he is.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Who's John Reed?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's an older comic.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Okay.

[Mark Normand]

He's great with kids. No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. He just got called for pedophilia.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, he.

[Mark Normand]

Pedophile child porn.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know. I don't. My apologies.

[Joe List]

There he is. Jesus.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

I mean, look. Neither one.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Last comic standing. Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Damn.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, you're really. You're really making a delineation between the.

[Joe List]

Two splitting kids hairs here. But yeah, look at that.

[Mark Normand]

10 counts.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What does that mean? He had 10.

[Joe List]

10 kids. I don't know. Count them. I don't know.

[Mark Normand]

Can we make the text a Little bigger.

[Joe List]

Oh, boy. There's two episodes we're doing on repeat.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, they know you can pull back, John.

[Joe List]

Creep. Gotta make it.

[Mark Normand]

We finished the last episode, and Mark's like, creep. It was there the whole time.

[Joe List]

At least I got it out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I love how you're like, we don't need to do this. Perfect line.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Here we go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Yeah. Jammed up, he was. I think he. I think he.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Location linked to the IP cyber address from. From the cyber tip.

[Joe List]

Clear your history, boys.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Or don't watch it. Don't look at Job.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, that's the big one. But yeah.

[Joe List]

You like what you like?

[Mark Normand]

Numerous comedy specials.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I remember. I remember watching that season live.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And they went back to, like, his hometown. He had. He did a bit in his hometown. That always made me, my buddy laugh.

[Joe List]

He was funny. He had a big closer where he talked about driving up in, like, a Camaro and he would act it out and he had the music play. It was huge. It would murder Cameron.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What? It was, dude. A closer with it has a musical cue.

[Mark Normand]

I always resented it so much.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, I hate it. But when it's. I mean, like, I think of, like, the thought live.

[Joe List]

You were like, who was it?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Cedric has one that's like where he's parking the spaceship or whatever.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, no. I only resented if they were. If they were like a middle act and you had to follow it. I got to follow a song and dance thing with.

[Joe List]

Sure. I know.

[Mark Normand]

Just change the energy.

[Joe List]

Of course. Course.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Very laugh house.

[Joe List]

It's like the guy seller who does the rap. I'm like, put that last.

[Mark Normand]

He is. He's always laugh.

[Joe List]

Okay, good.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, yeah. No, she's not making anyone follow that.

[Joe List]

I feel like I've seen him in the middle. I think somebody got a bug in her ear.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Who does the rap?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That British guy, right?

[Joe List]

Yeah, British guy. I don't know his name. Cool dude. I can't think of his name.

[Mark Normand]

Just anytime there's something. Yeah, Anytime it's something that's not stand up. You're like. You're just putting it. But yeah, they. She doesn't make anyone follow them.

[Joe List]

All right, good, Good.

[Mark Normand]

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[Joe List]

It's.

[Mark Normand]

It's so comfy. It's.

[Joe List]

They make great. I got a. I got a suede jacket. I just got a raincoat. And they're both killer.

[Mark Normand]

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[Joe List]

I love Chubby's.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, Chubby's is great. Yeah, I'm wearing them all the time. I like the bathing suits, too. They're killer. Got some great stretch pants there.

[Joe List]

Polos, too.

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[Luis J. Gomez]

Hear, hear.

[Mark Normand]

Okay, he's our favorite.

[Joe List]

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[Mark Normand]

John Reap.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Bummer.

[Mark Normand]

A toast to not being a pedophile. That's my toast. Hey, I'm really good. Hey. We are lucky. It's like Mark's joke.

[Joe List]

Joke?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, it's a story about. I can't remember where I saw this, but it was a guy. I can't remember. I'm gonna butcher it.

[Joe List]

But it was Mick Jagger.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No, it was a guy who was a. He was dying of cancer or something like that. And, like, they could have saved him. He's like, I want to die. And he told. He told the person. He's like, I've been attracted to children.

[Mark Normand]

Greg Stone.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No, no, no.

[Mark Normand]

He told Greg Stone this. I think it was when Greg. When Greg was a nurse. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Greg Stone.

[Mark Normand]

Greg is not. Greg is not attracted to children.

[Joe List]

That up.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That. That's. That's so crazy.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Stoney. Who said that? That is.

[Mark Normand]

Stone slowly puts a pillow over the guy's face.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You know, did you ever see. You ever hear this?

[Joe List]

I don't think so.

[Mark Normand]

He's told me this.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. I mean, Sonny would tell.

[Joe List]

I think that's a hero. If you're attracted kids and don't act on it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He's like, that's attracted.

[Joe List]

Better than a guy who's not attracted.

[Mark Normand]

Hero's a bit big.

[Joe List]

Well, he's like, I want to.

[Mark Normand]

Kids. Mark's like, get him a cape. This guy. Where's the purple Heart?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Never did.

[Joe List]

That's what I'm saying.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He's like, I've gotten to the end. I want to get out of here.

[Joe List]

Wow. Good for him. That guy deserves a medal.

[Mark Normand]

No, it is. It is good. He never did anything. Yeah, but hero is a bit much, I think.

[Joe List]

All right. Key to the city.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Give him a day.

[Mark Normand]

As long as it doesn't get in any schools.

[Joe List]

Speaking of cancer, how pumped are you guys? What? John, Candy, Duck.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He was just watching it.

[Mark Normand]

Did he die of cancer?

[Joe List]

What?

[Luis J. Gomez]

No. Heart attack.

[Joe List]

Ah, that makes more sense.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Skydiving.

[Mark Normand]

God, he was. Yeah, it looks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Died in Mexico.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, man.

[Luis J. Gomez]

A movie.

[Joe List]

I almost sent it to you.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, Vita sent it to me. Yeah, well, he was burning the candle hard at both ends.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

But God damn, he was so funny.

[Joe List]

I mean, he killed every role. Yeah, he's always great. He's hilarious. He's in all the best planes, trains.

[Mark Normand]

Really showed his range.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Man, yeah. One of my. One of my honest idols. Love him.

[Mark Normand]

The fact that he could be so annoying, and then you kind of just like, feel for him so much. The next moment, that was like.

[Joe List]

Like, I like that.

[Mark Normand]

That's a hard thing to be. Like. Like, I hate this guy. And then a minute later, you're like, he's a nice guy. I'm a piece of shit. Like, he'd make you hate you.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

For. For judging him. And you're like, oh, that's his, like, skill as an actor. As a comedian, you know?

[Joe List]

And don't slough on John. John Hughes.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. And Steve Martin, who's a great prick.

[Joe List]

Sure. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Steve Martin. Dude, Steve Martin in the 80s is insane.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Forget about it.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah, yeah. But he could do a drama, too. He's in jfk.

[Mark Normand]

That's right.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You're dead as that crab salad, my man. He was awesome in that. He had those thick Roy Orbison sunglasses on. He was pouring sweat.

[Joe List]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Nothing worse than sweating when you're eating.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

In the world of.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Maybe you want crab salad, though.

[Joe List]

Really did.

[Mark Normand]

Hey, a toast to a good crab salad. I love a good crab salad. Crab salad.

[Joe List]

Not too much.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did you ever watch the Amazing Jonathan One? One.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, I heard that's insane. Well, like, they were shooting two simultaneously. He was pinning one against the other and smoking crack.

[Joe List]

Well, he's kept smoking crack. Amazing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The Amazing Jonathan the Magician. Because I remember watching his Comedy Central presents as a kid.

[Joe List]

Damn.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. No, I remember. He was incredible and hilarious.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He was doing. He got diagnosed with some. I think that. I think it might have been a big lot. I don't know. There was. You'd have to go back and, like, really watch it. He's telling, like, 50 different stories.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And narratives while all smoking crack.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then, like, they're showing them smoke crack.

[Joe List]

Yep.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then he's lying to, like, other.

[Joe List]

The documentary.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Documentary team finds out there's another team shooting a documentary on them. Mid documentary. It's really good.

[Luis J. Gomez]

At once. I'll say it again. If everything. This country worked as good as crack, be a lot better off.

[Joe List]

Sure. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Here.

[Joe List]

Here. It does.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It is. Batting a thousand. I guess.

[Joe List]

We had a David Cross on. And he did crack once. And yeah. Right. When I smoked it, he goes, I get it. I get why it's so popular. You feel great.

[Mark Normand]

That's not what you want to feel when you try a little bit of crack.

[Joe List]

Oh, boy. Hunter Biden. He's on next week.

[Mark Normand]

I would like him on.

[Joe List]

He was.

[Mark Normand]

That guy's Got stories.

[Joe List]

Oh my.

[Mark Normand]

He did Marin, let's go. Hey, Hunter. Come on. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's making the right.

[Joe List]

He did that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That dude. Channel 5 or whatever.

[Joe List]

Andrew Kelly.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I like that.

[Mark Normand]

Did.

[Joe List]

Wow.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's some serious business right there.

[Mark Normand]

What if Hunter on here. That'd be fun.

[Joe List]

I love to have Hunter, though.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Charge card.

[Joe List]

Yeah. There he is. Dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hold on.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That'd be a great name for the doc. Crack Hunter Biden. Oo find out what's going on. Not bad, right? I don't think he'd appreciate it, but.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Gotta hand it to him. Only crackhead to have a laptop and never sell it.

[Mark Normand]

Sure.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, what a while. I mean that's.

[Joe List]

We've all been there.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Been there.

[Joe List]

Definitely Super 8 after a night out.

[Mark Normand]

Or the just the head in the toilet where you're like, I'm never doing this again. Cut to six hours later. Like, I could have won.

[Joe List]

I'll do a bloody Mary.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Gotta get my head on straight.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's a couple. That's a couple of days up.

[Joe List]

Gotta even out.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's a couple of days.

[Mark Normand]

If someone hands you like a beer though, and you're just like, I could do one.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Who is taking these pictures of them?

[Joe List]

That's a great question.

[Mark Normand]

I feel like. I feel like that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I feel like he's not really sleeping.

[Mark Normand]

I could play Hunter Biden and some. If I. I lay in the bathtub at that angle.

[Joe List]

That's true.

[Mark Normand]

Hit the gym a little bit. I. I could be Hunter.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Why is there so much photographic evidence?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think, dude, he's all up on crack. What do you mean?

[Luis J. Gomez]

I mean, dude, imagine if you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When you were real up, you had an iPhone and millions of dollars.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I was Dylan Blow and stuff like that. I was worried people were taking pictures of me. I don't want any phones.

[Mark Normand]

How many drunken videos do I send you?

[Joe List]

You? Oh, yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Having a good time.

[Joe List]

I save them all.

[Mark Normand]

Hard drive bomb to the bar.

[Joe List]

Just.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Wait, did you give up the. The yam yam?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Whoa. Congrats. Oh, I didn't. Oh, come on. I saw you three days ago.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't believe what you don't believe what you read in YouTube comments.

[Joe List]

Well, hey. 10 years. That's good.

[Mark Normand]

I didn't know you were doing that hard. Hard.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. I mean, it was great.

[Joe List]

Don't let the body fool you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

That guy could really snow blow.

[Mark Normand]

Damn. Were you. Were you a big coke guy or.

[Joe List]

No, no, no.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Never. I never got really big into drugs. All my friends were like. And still are.

[Joe List]

You say you either Never done it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Coke.

[Joe List]

Never done it.

[Mark Normand]

We both never done it.

[Joe List]

Okay.

[Mark Normand]

I was, I was, I was scared of it, dude.

[Joe List]

I'm not against it. I mean I'm not. Not judging.

[Mark Normand]

I had a coach when I was really young who was like letting buy it. Daryl Johnson. He was just showing me all the guys who died from one time use or like just a random. I mean, dude, we lost friends to that.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, just like the good examples. Daryl Strawberry, Leon Lett.

[Joe List]

Yeah, right. Williams.

[Mark Normand]

Daryl Strawberry was a fucking beast, man.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Those guys.

[Mark Normand]

But he went. He went hard religious now is he? That is a side effect from doing too much drugs. You might come back as a super religious.

[Luis J. Gomez]

For sure. I'm with it.

[Joe List]

Addict.

[Mark Normand]

But he was a killer, man.

[Joe List]

Oh yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I still have. I still have friends who like we got into drug. Like recreational drugs. It's like. Yeah, you know, pills were real big.

[Mark Normand]

Go back to that picture of him in the sweater vest.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Who's that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Living restore.

[Mark Normand]

His wife.

[Joe List]

That's his wife.

[Mark Normand]

I mean, that is. Dude, this guy was in between innings. He's in a sweater vest, Gary.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Old school.

[Joe List]

Wow. Good for him. He's with. He's with the Karen from the baseball game. You guys see that?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe List]

Holy shit. The lady got fired.

[Mark Normand]

What is with people doing. Doing that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't like the call for the jaw. It's like, hey, somebody's being shitty. It's like so like the Twitter's always like, find this person.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's unless it's like a crime or like a huge grievance.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Listen, the whole system of it sucks beginning to end.

[Mark Normand]

All of a sudden that mob sucks, sucks.

[Joe List]

And now this kid's getting blown by every Philly. And I'm like, well, hey, I don't know if he deserves that either.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, easy.

[Joe List]

He doesn't deserve.

[Mark Normand]

But did you see.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Did you see the bad all around for the kid? It's horrible.

[Mark Normand]

The guy at the US Open too, who took the hat, it's like. But then he's a guy. He doubled down.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I agree with. I. I kind of respect the double down.

[Mark Normand]

But also I think like just.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't. I mean, I'm out of comedy.

[Luis J. Gomez]

CEO Millionaire.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Okay.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Doubt he started out a millionaire already.

[Joe List]

People are going to hate him because he's a millionaire. Which I also don't get. But that's another argument.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But he yanks this dick move.

[Joe List]

Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But his apology was very much like, the world's tough. It's not fair. Kid should have been quicker. Keep your hands up.

[Joe List]

Have a good day. Interesting. Okay.

[Mark Normand]

Just my thing is, like, if it's a little kid, just let the kid have this crazy.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Who wants a hat from a guy? Like, like, in that. Like, how can you be so, like, I'm gonna run up and stand there.

[Joe List]

Like, I don't like this.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He didn't. He gave. Was giving to the kid, I think.

[Mark Normand]

Let the kid have the memory.

[Joe List]

Of course the player should step in. I was giving it to the kid.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He did, you know, they tell him. And then he, like, met with the kid after.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But he didn't see it. Like, he thinks he handed it to the kid.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Oh, this is breaking my heart, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Then they put it in a bag and hide it. Right away, it's like, you dirt bag.

[Joe List]

This is the guy.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No, no.

[Joe List]

Oh, these are all the retards of the comment on.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I do think it's kind of crazy how, like, people's whole job and. Or pertinent. Maybe not job, but, like, is like, he's a CEO. I know, but, like, let me take it to. Here's my opinion on.

[Joe List]

Yeah, shut up.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Take an opinion.

[Joe List]

I guess we're doing it too, in real time, but theoretically.

[Mark Normand]

You know what I hate is everyone opinion on this stupid thing anyway. What do you think, Foley?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think more seven.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No, I agree. Yeah. It's just the whole thing's sad.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And dumb. Who the wants a. I mean, I get it if it's like, but it's.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, you're a millionaire. You can just go like, hey, home run, or whatever. Spend eleven hundred dollars on a hat signed by this guy. If that's how much it is. I don't even know who the guy is, but it's like, if it's that you have the means to be like, I want a tennis racket signed by this guy.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. I, I, I tried to get an Eli Manning signed helmet at a, at a, at a charity, but it just kept going. I was like, it's for a good cause. I'll just keep paying. And then at a certain point, I'm like, no, I'm out. This is insane. Yeah, there you go.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

You know, and that's it.

[Joe List]

That's it.

[Mark Normand]

I just won't have it for sure. That's how you have to be as an adult. You have to accept, like, no, I don't have everything.

[Joe List]

Yes. I will say the fact that he doubled down is kind of cool because it probably shut it all down. No, it didn't.

[Mark Normand]

People were like, fuck this guy.

[Joe List]

All right, well, never mind.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But it Turned me. I'm like, you know what?

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Life isn't fair. Get back on the. Get back on that horse and ride it.

[Joe List]

Hit a guy with a car and go, hey, life isn't fair.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Tough break, pal. All my insurance company.

[Mark Normand]

John Re. He's like, life's not fair, dude. Some kids are going to get jerked off, too.

[Joe List]

Both have sad kids.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Is that the guy that's a tennis player?

[Joe List]

All right, well, you got the photo with the kid. It all worked out. This is the good thing about social media. There's a little redemption, I guess.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He's got to do it. He's got to get that picture in the pack paper.

[Joe List]

Make him a good point.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Everybody, analysis. His PR team was like, this is great for us. You'll come out looking like a hero. We just need 10 minutes with the kid. His name's Gary.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Damn.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Keep going around.

[Joe List]

This is the thing with. Everything's on film now, folks, so watch out.

[Mark Normand]

It is crazy. You used to just, like, hear someone was a dick.

[Joe List]

Yes, I heard.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I heard that guy sucks. It's like, well, here's.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's crazy. It's like you try to think, like, you know, play somewhat devil's advocate. Like, you don't think any of us would ever do that in that situation, but, like, you know, some of them are like, maybe you just didn't think or whatever.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Lapse of judgment.

[Joe List]

You're.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're caught up in the emotions. He's your favorite person. You're at. You just watched him win. You're sitting at the gate, and I mean, you know.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You know, maybe that the lady in the Philly thing, like, thought she was wrong, that he came over and stole my ball.

[Joe List]

Sure.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You know, it's like, back it up. Why do you give a. That much about a baseball is the main problem. But then, you know, she looks like an. Going over and yelling at the guy.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And then the pieces just don't work. The haircut, the glasses.

[Joe List]

Yeah, the haircut.

[Mark Normand]

But I feel like signatures now. I feel like back in the day, an autograph meant more. Now it's like. It's still. It's weird. I feel like an athlete used to make a good living just.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

You're like, Joe DiMaggio. Your retirement was like, yo, just sign balls, right? You know, just chill.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But that's like a convention, right?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You weren't charging on the street, were they?

[Mark Normand]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But they could be like, here.

[Joe List]

Here's a.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Here's a hundred balls. Go charge.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Oh, sure.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

$100.

[Joe List]

We'll say I open for a comic in Vegas. Not going to say his name, and you probably won't even guess it, but he had a hot moment. He was, like, hot for a year. I opened for him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sold.

[Joe List]

You're not far off. We were hanging out after, and kids were coming up to him. Like, kids. You know, like John Reef.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

John Raj. Come on. I was right there.

[Joe List]

Like, six year olds were coming up to him at the show with their dads and shit. Like, everybody loved this guy. Guy. And they were going, can I get a photo with my son? He would go, 50 bucks. Wow. He was like. The kid's like, I don't have 50 bucks. I'm a kid. And he's like, that's what I charge. And I remember sitting there, like, I was so uncomfortable.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Not a meet and greet, just in hanging out after.

[Joe List]

It was a meet and greet. Sorry.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It wasn't mean. Gre.

[Joe List]

But he. He was sitting at a table, and I was just standing there, like, hoping for a compliment, you know?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You were good, too.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Or this I'll give for 25.

[Mark Normand]

After show. You got to remind.

[Joe List]

Yeah, but the guy was so cold. And you know what? Now he doesn't do it anymore. He doesn't work anymore because I think he got iced out.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's crazy.

[Joe List]

That'll go around. Yeah, that'll.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That old. That'll go.

[Joe List]

That.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That behavior can't sustain.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You want to make the 50 bucks.

[Joe List]

Off the picture and seeing the kid, like, I just don't have it. Maybe I got 28. And then he was like, I couldn't even.

[Mark Normand]

I couldn't even do cameo. I would do, like.

[Joe List]

I couldn't either.

[Mark Normand]

I know friends who, like, did it for charity. I'm like, all right, that's. That's cool. But, like, I had people hit me up and like, can I get a video? Like, my wife has cancer. But, yeah, I'm not. I feel weird. I feel weird being, like, putting that on a website. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But, I mean, you know, we just do. We did one. We had Ari on, and we did, like, a funny. Because he's mo. He moved. So we were like, this is. You're going away. This is. We were like, oh. The joke was, you're retiring for comedy. So we had a bunch of. We got a bunch of cameos.

[Joe List]

And I've never.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We did it early on when we really needed them to keep the lights on in the studio.

[Mark Normand]

Who did We. We got some cameos in the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They're expensive, dude. Like Wayne Newton to get Within. To get. Wayne Newton. To get within 24 hours. Might have been like a thousand dollars. What?

[Mark Normand]

What? Who did we get on the pod?

[Joe List]

Jerry Store. Stoler.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Kenny Banion.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh. Fred.

[Joe List]

Stoler. Stoler. Oh, Buckles. Don't start out with me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were going back and forth with Buckles the other day.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The problem with going to see my mom is I got to take the bus out there. There's no transportation.

[Joe List]

Take the jacket.

[Luis J. Gomez]

So good. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I can't do the voices.

[Joe List]

Can't do the voices.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Buckles, we. I just. We were talking. Yeah, we are.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were dying.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Watch the episode last week, man, so.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You better move that call girl.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You know what it gave me the vibe of, and when I saw it as a. As a kid or whatever, had no idea that I would feel this way about it, but it really shows of, like, a. Like a winter night in New York City, running around doing yes, Man. It really.

[Joe List]

That's the best.

[Mark Normand]

There's something beautiful makes you feel good. There's something you feel like you have heart. You're like, I'm. I'm. I'm fighting to stay in this game.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You really do. And you really, like. It's so funny, like, in my head. And you're, like, doing it, and you're like, there's nothing. These doctors and whoever's around, like, this is the most important thing is me to make it to my 812 spot or whatever. And you're like, get out of the way. Hold the train.

[Mark Normand]

I love it.

[Joe List]

I do art. Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And you're like, I'm contributing to the city. This is like, I am part of the nightlife of the city.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I am running around.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I am a cog in the Friends.

[Luis J. Gomez]

For the movie and all that kind of stuff, Right?

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Papaya dog.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, dude, I got a movie rack. I got a shot out two people, Todd, Barry and Santino, who both told me to watch this movie. It's called Force Majeure. Have you heard of that?

[Joe List]

Heard of it? I feel like I have.

[Mark Normand]

It's crazy. It's about, like, this family on a ski trip. It's from, like, 10 years ago, and there's an avalanche, and basically, the husband doesn't. He runs away.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And I see this clip online.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. He runs away and leaves the family, and then they're all okay, but the wife doesn't respect him anymore. And it kind of goes from the there. It's pretty. It's pretty good.

[Luis J. Gomez]

She start nailing somebody.

[Mark Normand]

Watch the movie. It's a good movie.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You start nailing someone.

[Mark Normand]

It's, it's worth a watch.

[Joe List]

All right.

[Mark Normand]

It's a good, good flick.

[Luis J. Gomez]

All right.

[Joe List]

Speaking of running around in the city, that feeling my wife's gotten. And she got into the king of that. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I, I, I. When we do it, I'm like, I feel like Norman.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

You're always out of breath.

[Joe List]

Always out of breath. City, bike, just making it. Uber, subway, whatever. Ever the worst when you get the, the Liz text. Where are you? Oh, I hate it. Where are you? Because that means you're supposed to be on right now.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, sure.

[Luis J. Gomez]

In one night.

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah. Got three tonight.

[Mark Normand]

She screamed at me in front of a friend who didn't understand the culture. And she was like, hey, you're on around the corner. My friend was like, who was that?

[Joe List]

The police chief in like an 80s cop movie. Like you're everything up, you piece of.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Phone in the back, there's a pile up of cars.

[Joe List]

Yeah. All over town.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's funny.

[Joe List]

Remember in Point Break, you're like, why is he being so mean to Keanu? Yeah, we get the guy that was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A character that Movies rules.

[Joe List]

Great movie, Utah. But point is, my wife's watching this high maintenance show.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, the hbo, right?

[Joe List]

Yeah. The whole thing says Brooklyn. Yeah, it's a kind of a no name.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It changes every. Every episode.

[Joe List]

Yes. Every episode's a brand new cast, brand new thing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

McKeever did one, I think he ever directed one or something.

[Joe List]

It's a brilliant show. That guy Ben Sinclair there, brilliant show.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But I'm surprised this didn't come across your radar.

[Joe List]

Micah Sherman's in it. Everybody's in it. You're like, oh, there's Jay Jerd. Oh, there's a Parna or there's Caper Land or whoever, but everybody's in it. But point is, he, he rides a bike all over Brooklyn selling weed. And he's like meeting up with people in their apart tiny apartment, has a drink with this guy, goes and gets laid in a back of a suv and then he gets back on his bike and he's showing that sunset over the brownstones. And it just gets you pumped up about living in New York.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, there is something to doing that. Like that, that train calculation of like, should I take an Uber? Or is it the L to the. Whatever it'll get you that. You know, that kind of thing. And then when you do have the time to be like, I'm walking From New York 24th to the Cellar or something, you throw in the headphones and you're a nice fucking spring or Autumn night. Walking through, like walking under the arch and bad north. Nothing's better.

[Joe List]

Street performer. There's a guy playing music, there's a guy juggling and there's a hot girl. That's just the best.

[Mark Normand]

You play. You play the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He touched my leg.

[Luis J. Gomez]

This is going to sound very fat. But just on a very simple. That slice that we had. We came out, we. We recorded something downtown. We were in the Alita, walked over to his pizza place. I was starving, starving. Walked in, slice each and a Diet Coke. Me and Kippy walk outside. Chris Bear.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, ate outside.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Bite of that, man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Someone came out, was like, I love your show.

[Joe List]

Can we get a picture?

[Mark Normand]

We're.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's like, I'm like, how on brand is this? Two fat idiots.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But even I don't. I know that's crazy. Like childhood.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But like, there's something, there's something about that.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I take a bite of that. I'm like, I would give up, you know, a backyard and all that stuff to be, you know.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that's what it is.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I mean, it's crazy. I was Something about it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm spending the. I have, I have a house in the suburbs. So I was. I've been spending the summer there since we had the kid. To be easier room, space, help, the whole nine yards. And we were hanging out with like, I went to a barbecue with no one I knew. My wife knew one of the couples and I was like, you know what? Let me just go be John Q. Dad, husband, suburbanite. Ended up being great. But she was like the one, the one woman's like, oh, you guys spend your time in New York? Are you going to be here? Mostly I'm like, I just, I'm like, I can't walk away from New York show business.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You a comedian?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are you an entertainer?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Am I talking to you?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why am I talking?

[Mark Normand]

I do. There's something.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But then she's like, why? And I'm like, I don't know. But even if I'm just coming up and I don't have spots, I'm coming up to, like, record the pod. I, I. You get in the city and I'm walking on Six Avenue. I'm like, yeah, this. I can't explain it, but I'm part of the city. I struggled here for so long.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We have it now and we're like.

[Joe List]

And the city's moving. Yeah, it's always moving.

[Mark Normand]

The energy. The energy is good for comedy. The second I'm around, total quiet and calm. I feel, dude, when I'm in la, I feel so isolated. And yes. I'm like, how do I create stuff here? I don't know.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I'm okay. I always feel like that. I don't mind.

[Joe List]

Yeah, but it's still a city.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yes, but just the, and plus it's, it's, you know, Hollywood, you know, on the back of your head you have that. But can't beat New York.

[Mark Normand]

The stimulation, the energy you got in the street. I. Any city where you. Chicago's got it too. Certain cities where you just walk out, you're like, there's a energy here. Oh, yeah. You feel like you're a part of something.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yeah. You know when you go out drinking all night in New York, you, the sun's up, you, you fall out of the bar and you see like a guy in the back of a truck doing boxing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

The city's already going. Or.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. You're like, he's like dropping off the bread and you're like, you're like cranking a Sig and you're like, ah, you're.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Going home and have a bacon, egg and cheese and knock out for eight hours.

[Mark Normand]

You're like, you like, you're like passing a baton in a race where you're like, I'm, I'm. I'm going in for the night. You pick it up.

[Joe List]

That's pretty.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That'd be a great commercial for New York City.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. That is really.

[Mark Normand]

I'm doing advertising City. The city that never sleeps.

[Joe List]

I never heard that.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Really good.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yeah. But that, that is the best. And that's why all these cum guzzling queefs from the Midwest or whatever, they go, I don't know how you live there. I don't know. Yeah, the rent's a millionaire. Your apartment's the size of my sister's dick and da da, da. The fucking pretty big prime. And the subway. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Just like, I don't know.

[Mark Normand]

By the way, we never say that to you. Date in Ohio. How the do you do that? No.

[Joe List]

Oh, exactly.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I mean, I see the, I see like, you know, like for me specific, it's like, yeah, I might not buy a house. I might, might just stay here and rent and you know, maybe they find me in some apartment downtown in three weeks as an old man or whatever.

[Joe List]

It's like rats were eating them.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Holy boys. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And then you think to yourself, I'll accept that. I'll take that.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

For this.

[Joe List]

Until Zoran gets in.

[Mark Normand]

The energy is fucking incredible, man. Mark and I talk about this all the time. But, like, the basis for this pod was just us being at the Cellar. The. The. The blackout shades being.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

And we didn't know what time it was. And we leave and we'd be like, fuck, one more.

[Joe List]

One more. That turned into.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then.

[Mark Normand]

And then you go out and it's fucking 7:00am Exactly. And we were like, wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I tried to even make that. We tried to show. We tried to make that a show years ago called Last Spot of the Night.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Last spot of the Night where it was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We would shoot it at like one in the morning.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

After everybody was running around doing their spots. And we'd sit with a guest. And we sat with like, Schultz Donley.

[Luis J. Gomez]

AKA would you have tonight, having spots. Blah, blah, blah.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I had this one girl, she was doing this.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was. We were just at a bar. We're literally.

[Joe List]

We had. We did.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

At the corner of a bar, drinking.

[Luis J. Gomez]

We shot at a New York comedy. Remember when they had that other space next door and they were going to turn into like a.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A lounge.

[Mark Normand]

Coffee.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

I kind of like. There's a coffee shop.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Hey, the coffee shop's nice. But for a while that was just.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They had it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It was a bar that were like, you know. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And we just shot it there. But it just never.

[Joe List]

Never worked out on the tube.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think it even might be.

[Joe List]

Oh, all right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was corny. And we didn't know what we were doing, but it was just like, that's what. Oh, shit. I'm like, we. We even try to do like an audio version of it. I'm like, that is a show to me. I mean, that's what I like hearing of, like, breaking down the satellite. This one person, this type thing.

[Luis J. Gomez]

But I usually tend to give those jobs to people in broadcast.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

In broadcast, you always say I make good comments watching the good comments.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I like Mike Lupica, dude.

[Mark Normand]

It's crazy, though. Cause that's like. You probably could just rent that out as a space now. Cause like, I was in. We played that basketball tournament for Kenny DeForest RIP Kenny on Saturday. And it started to rain, so we had to finish the game. You know, we finished the game. And Joe Wachowski, God bless him, he's like, we gotta finish the game. It's a championship. So we find some guy who's got a home in Greenpoint, and there's a basketball court in the home. And we're walking around. It's one of those luggage. Luxury, all amenities buildings in a big building, not just his home.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I got It.

[Mark Normand]

But it's like. It's incredible that it's there still. It's like a gorgeous court. And we're walking around. They're like, oh, it's got, like a movie room down here. It's got. It's got a fucking podcast studio down there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's crazy.

[Mark Normand]

Just like, that's what is, like a fancy thing in a new building now. It's like, we have. If you have a podcast, you can rent that out, right? You have to fucking go to war with these people, Peters.

[Joe List]

I know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah. They're encroaching on you. It's going to be like two rich housewives being like, what's weird about whatever?

[Mark Normand]

You know, dude, you literally probably just have like a. You're like, oh, we'll just start a podcast. There's a studio down here. Give it a shot.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No one ever uses any stuff in the building, though. But it's always.

[Joe List]

I know. They never do.

[Mark Normand]

Even the basketball court was wide open on a weekend.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I'm like, where you gonna go? Green Point. A little Polish food.

[Mark Normand]

Greenpoint's cool, man. Best green Polish food is so underrated.

[Joe List]

It's all right. Oh, yeah. It's still Polish, too. Like, there's no, you know, something like. Like a Jewish neighborhood that was a black neighborhood. Now it's gentrified. That is Polish.

[Mark Normand]

I got a wreck for you if you're in Greek Point. Peter Pan Bakery. Dude, get a apple fritter.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Comedy fan. One of the. I think the son of the. The son of the owner or something. He hit us up. Yes.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I assume you know this joint.

[Joe List]

I don't know Peter Pan.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

I've been to Greenpoint in 10 years.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's.

[Mark Normand]

We've been in this area for sure.

[Joe List]

I used to go there all the time. I used to live in Bushwick, so we go to Greenpoint to try to meet.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Also shout out Chrissy Pizza. Always. Do you know Chrissy Pizzas? Chrissy Pizza out in Greenpoint.

[Mark Normand]

Who's that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He was. We plug. We talk about him all the time. But if we're talking about you guys.

[Joe List]

Good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Rex. He started making pizza in the pandemic. Kind of blew up. And then now he's got his own. His own place out there. It's awesome.

[Joe List]

I love bakery. I just did the Donut Pub last week on 23rd or 14th.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Counter.

[Joe List]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, I had a really late night.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thank you.

[Mark Normand]

Donuts. Avi and Rachel once. And it was like one of the most fun nights. Just like, just. You just. You're just Like, I'll get like eight donuts. You have a couple bites of each, you get a late night coffee.

[Joe List]

Exactly.

[Mark Normand]

Louie in that episode.

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Louie did that episode with the bully in the donut pub.

[Joe List]

The Donut Puff.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Dude, that kid's Mike Barrett. He's on the Sopranos. He's my friend's friend from growing up.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Bobby. Bobby talks about it all the time. Yeah, you talk about it. Bobby. When Bobby talked about Bobby, Kelly talked about going there and having a coffee and this and that. Oh, man, I wanted to crawl us so bad.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Very New York moment. I would tell you. I walked out of Patty's one night on like 20. Whatever.

[Mark Normand]

What?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's that on second night Ave or third Ave, they. They would used to let us. They used to lock the door and let you hang out back when I was still drinking that heavy. Yeah. And I walk out, sun's up. I take a cab uptown. I get. And I live up by the George Washington Bridge. And like, I get out and I stop and get like a Gatorade and like a bacon, egg and cheese or something or whatever. And I'm like, you know what? I've never walked across the George Washington bridge. It's like 6 o' clock in the morning, you know, in the spring is always like getting kind of nice. I'm like, this is amazing. I look like. I'm like. I'm like, yeah, dude, there's a guy there. Before they put the net up, there was a guy in a booth. Now there's. They put the railings up. But it used to be just like.

[Mark Normand]

40 people caught in there screaming like mosquitoes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And I didn't realize that I'm sitting there and I'm walking across the bridge just being like, this is amazing. Look how cool this looks. And the guy's like, guy walks up to me like, how you doing, man? He's thinking, I'm jumping, dude. I'm. I'm coming. I'm stumbling down. I'm by myself.

[Joe List]

Yeah, he's beautiful. I love the pod.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, don't do it, man.

[Mark Normand]

You're not garbage, man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's not that serious. You'll be on crashing one day.

[Joe List]

Jumping off a bridge is pretty garbage.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, that is a garbage way to go.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. What are the more what are like, what's a sophisticated suicide and what's like a garbage.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That suicide pod seems pretty classy. You got to have money to get to Switzerland or wherever that is.

[Luis J. Gomez]

There's a suicide podcast.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No suicide, no step. Yeah, yeah. And these new buildings, they Got them.

[Joe List]

We have no sponsors because we won't be here.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You can go to Switzerland and get put the in a little.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I like how you googled best ways to kill yourself and it said help is available.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Of course.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's betterhelp.com we might be drunk suicide.

[Joe List]

Pod that well because it's illegal to.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Do like in a lot of people if you're like really sick or something.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Asia they call it. Yeah, right. Which is such a weird word. Youth in Asia.

[Joe List]

It's like a young Chinese youth in Asia.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's what I hear.

[Joe List]

Yeah, same.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. No, that's what I thought it was for like way too long. I thought it was going to band that I got checkout.

[Mark Normand]

You're dying like a dumb dog.

[Joe List]

Yeah, right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But didn't that come. I'm drawing a blank of his name. He was from kill Tony Michael Lerner. Lerner. He did it. He did. I believe he did assisted suicide.

[Joe List]

He's dead.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think he took his life in like Seattle.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No kidding.

[Mark Normand]

And how does that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How does assisted airman. Ah, yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Super funny.

[Mark Normand]

That guy was a good actor.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, great actor.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If I have Michael, I think it was lair.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Larner.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Lar. I can't believe.

[Mark Normand]

So how do you do.

[Joe List]

I mean I don't get what the pod does. It's like a.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, it's like you go in and you press up because no one can administer the drugs for you. So you go in. I think it's just like in the woods in Switzerland.

[Joe List]

What happened to guns, pills, car engine? What do you call that? Carbon monoxide in the garage. Yeah, that's the classiest.

[Luis J. Gomez]

So with the kids to see.

[Joe List]

Yes, exactly.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Little moment that doesn't need to be that futuristic.

[Joe List]

Yeah. This is crazy. I mean it looks too cool. I want to get in there.

[Mark Normand]

Second they put the movie with Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It looks like a wave runner.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that wasn't bad.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It was a good movie. What's it called?

[Joe List]

I remember but A kid's gonna get it looks like a spaceship.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, it's in Switzerland.

[Joe List]

I live over Switzerland. Is.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They're opposed to it. I don't know.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Floating over that thing.

[Mark Normand]

Switzerland's a strange place.

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

They get freaked.

[Mark Normand]

We don't want to get involved in any wars, but come here and kill yourself.

[Joe List]

Yeah, right. Number one in quality of life, by the way.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They're so funny. You know, a traffic ticket can be up to one year or a one month salary. It's dependent on how much you make.

[Joe List]

What?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Speeding ticket in Switzerland.

[Mark Normand]

It is funny. Every country's got their thing, like, come to Turkey for a hair transplant. Come to Switzerland to kill yourself.

[Joe List]

Yeah, there you go.

[Mark Normand]

But maybe if their quality of life is so good, maybe if someone wants to kill themselves, they're like. They really want to go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Do you see?

[Luis J. Gomez]

If he did he.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Assisted suicide, Right. He chose the assistance of a doctor.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Michael died with dignity, on his own terms, at his life.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Remember when he did Andrew Nice Clay? This is when Kill Tony was still at the Vulcan. They brought him up. I think he was in a wheelchair. He was in a wheelchair at the time. They got him on stage, and, dude, he did Andrew Nice.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. Oh, that's so good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like in. In. Not great. Like, he was in very bad shape, but still hitting the notes, working the crowd, like, killing. That was my first introduction to him. It was.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

I didn't know he's in a wheelchair. This changes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, no, he was. Yeah, he was. He was in. He was in. He was in pretty bad shape.

[Joe List]

All right. That's super funny. That is super talented.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Super funny. And the push through all that.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Unbelievable.

[Joe List]

Rip, this guy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Yeah. He was awesome.

[Joe List]

Damn. But still, I. I don't understand. Why not just do it yourself?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't think he. I don't think he had the capability to do it himself. At the end, you do it for free.

[Joe List]

Oh, he couldn't even.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't. I. I don't know the deets, but I think it got to a point where he couldn't.

[Joe List]

Got it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like somebody here. If he was like, I want a gun. They'd be like, we can't give.

[Mark Normand]

You remember Dr. Kevorkian? It was this moral debate.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Played by the great Al Pacino.

[Mark Normand]

Is. Is what he's doing ethical, or is it evil?

[Luis J. Gomez]

He was doing in a hotel downtown or something like that, wasn't he?

[Joe List]

What was the deal, Painter?

[Mark Normand]

You're not getting a great doctor.

[Joe List]

Yeah, it was something.

[Mark Normand]

Meet the best Western.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I have points there.

[Joe List]

Vorkian.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What a name. Like, I only know that name. It's synonymous with killing, you know, assisted suicide.

[Joe List]

Yeah. They called him so weird. Yeah. He doesn't look friendly.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, no.

[Joe List]

Yeah. That guy looks like death.

[Mark Normand]

He looks like a Nazi doctor.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What was his deal?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He was help.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He was doing assisted suicide just out of kindness.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

People looking. Looking for escape.

[Mark Normand]

Some people who are in great pain. If you don't believe in the afterlife and the people who are suffering, you think you're helping. Helping them.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Did they put him in jail.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think that was the big thing. I don't know if he ever went.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Why is he in that wheelchair in court?

[Joe List]

Damn. Fatal injections. 5, 10 to 25 years.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Damn.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Damn.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Served 8 years.

[Joe List]

Wow.

[Luis J. Gomez]

He's knocked that down.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't they?

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Someone in prison's depressed. He's like, let me talk to you for a second.

[Joe List]

Bring your will.

[Mark Normand]

There's an easier way.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Way.

[Joe List]

Damn.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I heard that's what got Epstein.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah. Wow. Good times.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Good times.

[Joe List]

The 90s were wild.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was like a different.

[Joe List]

The OJ I feel like that opened.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The door, though, to everything. To the. You know.

[Joe List]

What's that?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Everything. Watch everything. Everything. You know.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The OJ thing, right? Yeah.

[Joe List]

Everything. You know, Pamela Doc was 90s.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It was just so surreal. I remember we were on Senior Week when. When that happened, and just him driving down that highway and that white Bronco.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I got Gendison. He wants to go see his fish.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Poor little Pinkus.

[Joe List]

I remember watching SNL with my friends when I was 14, and they went, breaking news. Diana has died. Wow. I remember where I was. What. What time. It was sure crazy.

[Mark Normand]

I remember Phil Hartman. That was one that hit me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I was just watching tv, and it came on like, phil, comedian Phil Hartman has been shot dead by his wife. And I was like, what the fuck?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Damn.

[Mark Normand]

Because, you know, obviously, who wasn't a big Phil Hartman fan.

[Joe List]

Sure, sure.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Kobe was a monster.

[Mark Normand]

That was a.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That was a later one. Crazy.

[Mark Normand]

That was brutal. That was like, the beginning of the end. That was like a month and a half before COVID Yeah. That was like. You go back to, like, January early that month. Like, holy shit. We didn't know how good we had it.

[Joe List]

Yeah. And then Ari lost his whole career. Who's this?

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's his son.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What?

[Joe List]

I never.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, because there was a standoff in the driveway, right? For a little bit.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What is this? Just take him out of the car. Like, what's going on?

[Joe List]

I know he had a gun. Well, can't they put eight guns on him?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, something.

[Joe List]

I mean.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, I think the whole thing is they didn't know how to deal with it.

[Mark Normand]

It's like a Jack Kevorkian on the phone. Hostage negotiator Jack Kevorkian.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's so funny. As soon as he did this. Everyone new?

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What are we doing?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, you. You're not innocent.

[Joe List]

And by the way, crazy. The Bronco went away and made a great comeback. The Bronco is killing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, he. I mean, well, he killed. Production of that car for 30 years.

[Joe List]

Was it that long?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, what year was this?

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Come back to 21.

[Joe List]

Vintage is killer. Killer.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Wait, really? The. The. Even. Not just the white ones. Everything.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think. I think I. Yeah.

[Joe List]

I don't know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When they.

[Joe List]

I. I mean, Mulaney had a great joke about. He's like, imagine doing something so bad they get rid of the camera Camry.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe List]

So good point.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Imagine being the. Like, the guys at Bronco, like, see that?

[Joe List]

Like, oh, I know. That's.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I just put in a pool at my ass.

[Joe List]

I was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There was a bar in Philly, a dive bar in Philly, and there was sitting there drinking. This is before I started doing comedy. And there was a Heisman up in the corner. And we're like. Me and my buddy are sitting there like, is that a Heisman? Like, there's no way that's real. And then we asked the bartender. We're like, dude, is that a Heisman? He's like, yeah. I'm like, whose is it? He's like, you'll never guess. He's like, oj's.

[Joe List]

Get out of here.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because if they. He's had to sell all that stuff. When he lost. He lost the civil suit. He got found guilty in the civil suit. He had to sell everything. That's why he went back in. That's when he went to.

[Mark Normand]

Where did it go for? Is what I want to know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know. He's like, the owner bought it off a guy who bought it off a guy who bought it because, remember, he went to jail for breaking in and stealing all his memorabilia back. That was stuff that he had pawned that he had.

[Mark Normand]

Goddamn.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hey. Crazy.

[Mark Normand]

That is hilarious. Hilarious.

[Joe List]

Wow.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah. I'll show you. This jersey. What? Roomy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Ends at an auction in 1999 for 20 255, 000 to help pay for damages.

[Joe List]

But, yeah, one guy needs money, so he sells it. Then another guy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Like, it just went down the. It went down the road to this.

[Luis J. Gomez]

50 bucks.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. If you.

[Joe List]

If you.

[Mark Normand]

If you have that money. He also willing to buy that. You're probably not great with money.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yes.

[Mark Normand]

So you might. You might be in a pickle soon.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. You probably have, like, the exact amount you're willing to pay.

[Joe List]

Imagine what ends up on Storage Wars. Santa Claus, Noel Smith's pill jar.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We did that on Patreon. That was not storage. We went and, like, went to an auction. That was, like, one of the goals. We're like, we'll go buy we'll go by. It's a. It is a wild scene.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Got a mint condition Mickey Mantle card.

[Joe List]

Shut up now. All right.

[Mark Normand]

Some woman's gonna.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Pair of rollerblades and a bunch of spiders.

[Mark Normand]

He's gonna be on in, like, 50 years being like, my dad had this. And the guys. Well, you're not gonna believe this. This is O.J. simpson's Heisman Award. She's gonna start crying. She's like, this is amazing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

This is John Reed.

[Mark Normand]

I'm paying for my kids college.

[Joe List]

This is Cosby's sweater.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'd probably. That's still gross.

[Joe List]

I would buy that.

[Mark Normand]

He's probably got a lot of them, too.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I mean, we could. We could raise some money.

[Joe List]

That's true.

[Mark Normand]

You get some goodwill back.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah. Wow.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The juice.

[Joe List]

That was true, too, back in the old days. Not the old days. I'm acting like we're 90. But you'd see cool at a bar.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, we're just like, oh, that's.

[Joe List]

Yeah, whatever. Right.

[Mark Normand]

Pull up a mod.

[Joe List]

You could still smoke.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were still smoking in bars in Philadelphia at that point. It was 2006. Seven.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Go to a restaurant. There's, like, jerseys behind glass.

[Mark Normand]

Look at Ahmad Rashad. Look at Ahmad Rashad, the. The athlete's best men at his wedding.

[Joe List]

Oh, wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's his best man.

[Mark Normand]

O.J. and Cosby.

[Joe List]

No, man.

[Mark Normand]

That guy's like, these are my two best friends forever.

[Joe List]

Wow. And William Stevenson did the inauguration.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The officiator, Will Stevenson, rest in peace.

[Joe List]

Well, you got the whole cast there. Is that Lisa Bonet and Felicia Rashad?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yep.

[Joe List]

And looks it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

They're sisters.

[Mark Normand]

Harvey Weinstein's at a picture here, but.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's crazy.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Got a plate of crab salad behind him.

[Joe List]

All right. Sorry. That's all right. Oh, man. Damn. That's wild. That guy can pick him, man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Talk about. That's nuts.

[Joe List]

Oh, he married her.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Oh, okay. Okay. Got it. Damn. Good time.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's a rough wedding. Wedding album.

[Joe List]

It's also crazy when you hear how mean Bill Cosby was to Eddie. Eddie Murphy? Sure.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Really?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

He was a real dick to him. He's like, you're too dirty. You suck. You know? Yeah. Real comedy. And Eddie's like, geez, I looked up to you.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Oh, you caught him. That's right. He called him on the phone.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

After he watched Delirious. Huh.

[Joe List]

I always say if someone is too outspoken about something, they're hiding something. Yeah, he's too. He's like, you got to pull your pants up. You got a bit you got to act right and whatever and not curse.

[Mark Normand]

Well, being self righteous about it, there's no need, like, you could be a clean comic. And people are like, well, that's cool that you're able to do that clean. But then the guys who are like, I only like clean comedy. That's kind of weird to me too.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Like just liking one thing.

[Joe List]

Yeah, he loves Simo, loves priority. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that is weird.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I saw a great. It was like a meme or something. It was like, damn, Seinfeld's so rich. He just pays the other most famous comedians in the world to make them laugh. That's all comedians and cars is just like, hey, come here and make me laugh for an hour. You're like, wow.

[Joe List]

The waitresses rolling their eyes because it's two goofballs going, what's that? Coffee?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'll butter your bread.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, but come on, if you're a waitress, that's not the worst day. You're waiting on Jerry. You're waiting on Jerry.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And was good with that when he. When he went out with the. On a bowl of pickles.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, chicken salad. He's got a great icy pieces. It's been making the rounds with Sarah Jessica Parker because she's like, oh. He's like, oh, what's a tip here? And she's like, I always tip 25 or something.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And he's like, no, no, she's like, that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, no, that's what she said. Because she goes, I always tip 25. He goes, no, he's like, because every. You're gonna say, this waitress is gonna say, I waited on Sarah Jessica Parker. And they're gonna go, go. The first question is, what did she tip?

[Joe List]

Yep.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You can't. They. You. They can't. Their answer can't be seven dollars. It has to be fifty bucks. A hundred bucks.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I thought she said that to him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, he said it to her.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's so funny because she.

[Joe List]

Wait.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Because I waited on her.

[Joe List]

Whoa.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And she knocked it out of the park.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She said 25.

[Mark Normand]

So maybe she had a misspeak. That's the thing, too. People misspeak sometimes on these things, and then it's there forever.

[Joe List]

25 is still something solid now when you're Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah, yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

When it's like Baldwin said that too in that episode, you know, we have to leave like a thousand dollars.

[Joe List]

Exactly.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Because it's us.

[Joe List]

How'd she look?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Great.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

This was 10. I mean, still looks beautiful. Now, 10 years ago, Mark's got a thing for.

[Joe List]

I got a bit of a. I like her. Oh, yeah. Big, best. Big horse mug. I like.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Is she Jewish?

[Joe List]

I don't know. But she came off great in this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She looks like every girl.

[Joe List]

Like, up with. Really? The big honker? Yeah, the blonde.

[Mark Normand]

My buddy Dave, Jessica used to hang with her back in the day, and he said she was the coolest.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Yeah, she seems cool.

[Mark Normand]

Yes, I would like her on this. Why can't we.

[Joe List]

I would love.

[Mark Normand]

Can we pull Sarah Jessica Parker?

[Joe List]

I'll take her husband, too.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. Dude, good movie. Wreck with him. You ever see you can Count on Me?

[Joe List]

No, no.

[Mark Normand]

Great movie.

[Joe List]

I'm a big fan.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Election.

[Mark Normand]

That's a great home run. You can count him a great movie, that Ruffalo.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, wow. Wow.

[Mark Normand]

That's a great flick, huh? Kenneth Lonergan, man.

[Joe List]

Rory Culkin. The weird Culkin. The sleeper Culkin.

[Mark Normand]

Hey, Culkin's got to eat, baby.

[Joe List]

95% on rock.

[Mark Normand]

Really good.

[Luis J. Gomez]

2,000. Who else?

[Mark Normand]

It's like a dramedy. It's solid as hell.

[Joe List]

Okay. Oh, Josh Lucas. He's always good. And Gary Hoff. She was good in now and Then.

[Mark Normand]

Amy Ryan. She's good.

[Joe List]

Great cans on Nina. Yeah. Garbiras. Quite a couple of yabos.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Gabby Hoffman was a little girl in.

[Joe List]

Is that right?

[Luis J. Gomez]

I believe so, yes.

[Mark Normand]

Good pull, dude. Family's good with movies, dude.

[Joe List]

Hachi Bocce.

[Mark Normand]

Should we. Do we do a couple more toasts, get some advice?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Can I grab another beer from you, please? I got. We got Legion of Skanks after this. I'm rolling it into a.

[Joe List]

You gotta get ready. Buckle up.

[Mark Normand]

You guys are. You guys are in the zone today.

[Joe List]

I love it. I gotta slow down.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, I'm chilling.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I'm hitting lunch at a Nappy Poo.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know.

[Luis J. Gomez]

In the.

[Mark Normand]

Where are you going?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Thank you. I'm gonna hang on to it, though. Yeah. Thank you, brother. I don't want to waste a cold one.

[Joe List]

Football season is a toast. Not having to type in your password. That's the best one I've heard.

[Mark Normand]

That is a huge one.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's great.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, when it. When it just does the face thing. Oh, God.

[Joe List]

One guy wrote titties. We can all get behind that.

[Mark Normand]

Titties is good.

[Joe List]

Canceled plans is another great one. This guy's on my wavelength.

[Mark Normand]

Cancel plans is a biggie.

[Joe List]

That's big.

[Mark Normand]

Was it Mulaney who had the bit where it's almost like. Better than heroin?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Todd Berry had a great bit, too.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Yeah, My wife was having a party the other night. She's like, I'm have some people over. And in my head I'm like, people? Really? And she's like, yeah, she loves entertaining. She wants to bring. We have a cool house. She wants to bring people over and sit out in the backyard and have some drink, which is great. And you need the yin and yang. I'm the cum guzzler.

[Mark Normand]

Do you hang with them when this happens or do you hide out?

[Joe List]

I pop in and out.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No kidding.

[Joe List]

And then I recharge and I go back. It's. It's really. Yeah, it's hard.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are any of them common friends?

[Joe List]

Like, or.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They're all like, based from. They're all from her.

[Joe List]

They're all in her world, but they're cool. She has taste.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Except just meant like there's no, like.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You can dip in and out.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah, look at you. Well, I have to. If I stay out there, I'll start twitching and shit.

[Mark Normand]

When it's your home, you can, you kind of have the advantage. You could put on the slippers. You can kind of be like, oh, I'm going to figure this out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I got to go check out the water heater. I'll be right back. Just down there hitting it with a cup. Yeah.

[Joe List]

Oh, I'm a big.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'll run to the store. Yeah, see you later.

[Joe List]

Now I'm at Target with a beer buzz, you know, like wandering the aisles, like about.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's pretty good.

[Joe List]

Yeah. So everybody gets that she was having this party and you know, the whole time, like, ah, the party's a week away. Like a party party, like, like, like 20 people. Drinks, music, food.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You don't got to be out there with her.

[Joe List]

I'll do, I'll do half of it. I'll do, you know, a little bit. I can't do the whole thing. I just can't do it. I'm sorry.

[Mark Normand]

You got it. They got a big place he can hide.

[Joe List]

A lot of hiding. And I got the baby. I gotta check on the baby. Diaper change.

[Mark Normand]

Mark literally had a baby as a buffer.

[Joe List]

100%.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's great.

[Joe List]

I'm upstairs with the baby, like, this is great. He's looking at my face. I'm like, I don't care. But point is, she's having the party. Bummer. Then the day before, she goes, you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Know, I got so much going on.

[Joe List]

My work, the baby, I'm canceling the party. I was like, oh, what, what are you crazy? You cancel the party. She's like, I'm gonna cancel it. It's a whole thing. And I'm like, ah.

[Mark Normand]

And you're like, I'm so bummed.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Gotta do what you gotta do. You gotta me time. You gotta, you know, have some. Some hang time for yourself.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I like that.

[Joe List]

Do that. What. What. What do they call it when the. When you're working on yourself?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Rejuvenate.

[Joe List]

Rejuvenate.

[Mark Normand]

But here's the problem. She's going to have another party. There's going to be a makeup party.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

She's gonna. You didn't get off the hook, right? You dodged the temporary.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Got all the paella.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What? You're never really on. If you had that.

[Joe List]

You.

[Luis J. Gomez]

If you have that arrangement that's set up, you're never on the hook. Be grateful for that.

[Joe List]

All right? You got to. You be doing.

[Mark Normand]

Are you guys on the hook there?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He. I mean, like, you're really speed.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You don't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, you don't do anything.

[Luis J. Gomez]

No, but I would. I would not be away with that at all.

[Joe List]

Oh, really?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Not even close.

[Joe List]

Oh, wow.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Not even close.

[Joe List]

Well, it's one of the perks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're.

[Joe List]

You're a jovial, funny guy. I hate.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What do you mean? I'm going to blow my brains down. Those situations.

[Joe List]

I know, but they don't know that. That her friends think, oh, Foley's coming. He's a comedian. He's a funny guy. He's a podcaster. He's quick, he's witty. So that makes it worse, but you.

[Mark Normand]

Get drained by it. Yeah, I feel the same way.

[Luis J. Gomez]

My room. Didn't I hide in the room one time?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, no, it's like his. His girl and our friend were stop by. They were changed. Something happened. She was stopping by with a friend for, like a half hour or whatever, 20 minutes.

[Joe List]

That's enough to do something, to be.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, hey, I'm just gonna. We're gonna pop in. I'm gonna get changed or. And then we're gonna go to dinner. And he went and acted like he was sleeping in the bedroom.

[Joe List]

Meanwhile, I was at, like, noon, but I wasn't sleeping.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't. I don't mind.

[Joe List]

I don't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't mind it that much. Like, it is draining. It is for. I mean, anybody with our kind of, you know, social habits, it is draining.

[Joe List]

They don't understand, like, she'll catch me looking at my phone, phone, and she's like, why aren't you out there? I'm like, because I'd rather do this. Yeah. You think if I Wanted to be out there, I wouldn't be out there. Of course, if I wanted to be there, I'd be there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I was stubborn.

[Joe List]

I do that to her. I never go, why are you having fun? Why are you having a party? You know, I never hit her with that, but you get it all the time.

[Luis J. Gomez]

So you do take a little heat for this.

[Joe List]

Well, sure.

[Luis J. Gomez]

All right.

[Joe List]

It is.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's abroad at the end of the day.

[Mark Normand]

Don't get us wrong. She's not happy.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Okay, now I. I got you. No, I. I respect you for. For holding your line.

[Joe List]

Yeah, well, I'd crumble.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Go out there like, hey, you guys doing.

[Mark Normand]

Mark is an introvert. I feel that way too. I don't. I can. I can socialize, but then I. I need to recharge. I. It doesn't give me energy to be out socializing. No, I enjoy. Just because I enjoy it doesn't mean it doesn't drain me.

[Joe List]

It's what alcohol is for. Really?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

It fuels you. I can stay a little longer. I got a buzz.

[Mark Normand]

Have a coffee, too. Coffee help me. A nighttime coffee is so underrated.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

Grab me a pop if I find. That's a peeve. Coffee shops. Thank God for New York, but you go on the road sometimes. These places are closed at like 1:30.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I like a nighttime or at least an afternoon coffee.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe List]

Like that.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I just said it today. You guessed me wanted a coffee this morning. I was like, you know what? I keep having coffee in the morning. I get anxiety. I don't want to deal with it. And after we came out of something we were doing, something came out of that. Like, now it's time for a coffee.

[Joe List]

Yeah. And we stay in a lot of hotels and they have that Starbucks in the lobby, and that shit'll shut down at like 11:30.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I feel like it's never open, like 10:30.

[Luis J. Gomez]

If there is a tease going into those rough. Those bad hotels where they have that stuff and finding out that the person checking you in is also running back there to do that.

[Joe List]

I've just had that, actually.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I don't want to put you through that.

[Joe List]

I know those two big cats. The. Just the coffee, the deep coffee.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

With the. The creamers piled up. Just let me do it.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, I love that, dude. Yeah. Oh. Makes me happy. Little splash.

[Luis J. Gomez]

A little something. Half a cup, whatever.

[Mark Normand]

I'll do it. I'll do a toast to the first sip every morning.

[Joe List]

Great.

[Mark Normand]

That first sip, I'm like. I feel even that placebo effect. I know the Caffeine hasn't technically hit me yet, but I know it's coming and I feel alive. I feel rejuvenated.

[Joe List]

I'll throw one French vanilla in fancy pan.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I'm with you.

[Joe List]

Yeah, but yeah, it's crazy.

[Mark Normand]

When you go to 7 11, they have all the flavors.

[Joe List]

Oh, I know, I don't.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's high fructose corn syrup in the pump.

[Mark Normand]

It's nasty. But every once in a while I'll do it.

[Joe List]

But if it's Christmas morning, it.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, Wawa is really classy cuz Wawa has the actual cartons, like the little.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Quarter like that they sell kind of. They take them from the real nice Wawa W town. But it's not.

[Mark Normand]

You hit a Wawa sheets on the road, I'm always happy, never disappointed.

[Joe List]

With a Wawa or sheet, we're a big star.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean now that you have Uber Eats, it's like wherever you are, there's enough Starbucks too, that it's like when we travel, like our whole team, everybody knows everybody's order.

[Joe List]

So it's like I'm getting an order.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Order, what do you want? And it'll meet in the lobby or it'll meet at the venue or whatever.

[Joe List]

The fuck it is.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Wawa's cold brew holds right up to Starbucks too.

[Joe List]

I think it's better quality. I think Starbucks has that burnt bitter shit. I don't love it a little bit.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I kind of need it a little bit.

[Joe List]

Yeah, I'm a Starbucks.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You like to burn, huh?

[Mark Normand]

I used to hate it and it's kind of growing on me because it's just, it's at least when you're gone, you're like, at least I know what, I'm consistent.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's very consistent. There should be. But did you go to some in like a small town or whatever and you're like, let me get back there and fix this up. I've been to enough that I know.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Can'T make an egg bite.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know how it runs.

[Mark Normand]

I don't hate those egg bit them.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I like live on.

[Mark Normand]

I like egg sandwiches and I like. Dude, yeah, I'm. Look, I'm going to choose the mom and pop spot spot for anything like diner, coffee, whatever. You just, you just want it. But every once in a while you're.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Like, all right, I crush them egg bites. We love them.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, we're big egg bites, dude.

[Joe List]

No carbs. You know what's crazy?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Why I'm eating them, but.

[Joe List]

Oh, okay. It's crazy about coffee is I. If I don't get coffee. I get the headaches. You ever get that?

[Luis J. Gomez]

I'm kidding.

[Joe List]

I get the coffee headache.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Which are you up in the morning making up a coffee get the house.

[Joe List]

I may. I have at least one a day.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Okay.

[Joe List]

At least.

[Mark Normand]

Do you make it at home?

[Joe List]

I do. I do the Keurig.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's great.

[Mark Normand]

You got to get out the kerg, man. We'll get. We'll get you a good coffee maker.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, but it's nice.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Something old school.

[Joe List]

It's just the speed. I don't want to clink and twist and ste.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Boil water and press and wait and let. Let it cultivate for 6 hours.

[Luis J. Gomez]

French fr.

[Joe List]

To knock it out. But my point is making the cut coffee. I forgot my point.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh.

[Joe List]

So I get the headaches. Headaches. Now here's what's crazy about the mental. The human brain. I can.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You know.

[Joe List]

You know, the headache is withdrawals. You have the coffee, no more headache. If you sniff and smell the coffee, it goes away because your brain knows you're about to have it. Yeah. It's kind of like when you see a toilet and you gotta. You gotta more.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

You know when you have to, you're like, all right, I got. I got. I got a hole in this thing. I could make it. And then you see the toilet, you're like. With the coffee, dude.

[Luis J. Gomez]

There's no more dicey situation than when your pants are coming down and you're going down.

[Mark Normand]

I'll tell you what else that talk.

[Luis J. Gomez]

About critical moment zero.

[Mark Normand]

If some. If you're on a flight and someone smells like complete. You just have a little. Couple coffee grounds. You sniff it, you're good.

[Joe List]

Oh, there you go. Oh, that's good.

[Mark Normand]

Strong smell.

[Joe List]

They. They tape a coffee thing up in the bathroom sometimes on plains. I never knew what that was. That must be.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, maybe that's what.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Put the coffee bag in there to kill the smell.

[Joe List]

Tape a coffee bag right on the wall.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Really?

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

I didn't know that.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Damn.

[Joe List]

Pull this up if you can there, fatty cup of java. Nigerian on an Air France. They walk down spraying Febreze. And a lot of people are upset about it because the BO was so out of control that they had to spray. There it is. It went viral. Oh, first one Air France.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Couple people.

[Joe List]

Yeah, looks like there's a couple videos. They literally walk up and down and down, crop dusting with perfume.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Anybody that doesn't know that. That you smell or gets offended by that is insane.

[Joe List]

That's what I said.

[Mark Normand]

Bad people. When you're around in an Enclosed space with someone who has got really bad bo. It's tough.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Wild.

[Joe List]

I think it's a racial thing. So it got weird because they're all Nigerian cultural too.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I think there should just be a thing where, if that's the case, it's like if you have a booger, but.

[Mark Normand]

It'S tough to say to someone, booger's a quick fix.

[Joe List]

This is a life.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah. This is you. You don't sm. There was a guy on my tour. There's a guy. My tour didn't smell great and I had to just be like. I don't want to say. It was a. It was a crew of us. So I don't want to pull him aside. So I had to be on the bus. Like, everyone. You have to stop. You have to start wearing deodorant in the shower. And everyone, like, nodded. I'm like, can't say who it is.

[Joe List]

Oh, that's good.

[Mark Normand]

I don't want to. I don't want to pull him aside. I thought that was mean.

[Joe List]

That's good, I think.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But, like, you know, I mean, pull.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Them aside is great.

[Mark Normand]

Well, yeah, probably that's a better move because it didn't work.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Really.

[Joe List]

Both went up and down with the spray.

[Luis J. Gomez]

These are French people doing this. Yeah, we got a lot of.

[Joe List]

That's ironic, right? A lot of bulls, a lot of balls. But, yeah, I thought that was interesting. And I've been on an African flight and it stinks, I'll tell you right now. But, yeah, it didn't work.

[Mark Normand]

That is crazy. No, it didn't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's great. I mean, like, also, it didn't work.

[Mark Normand]

For a good day. And then they were like, yeah, it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

In a comedy setting should be able to, like, body. You know, we all call. Really. It's like balls and strike. Hey, buddy, you gotta.

[Mark Normand]

Well, it's a hard thing to Little.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Little.

[Mark Normand]

You don't want to do it in a group because it's. It's kind of like, oh, that's kind of me. And then if you pull someone aside, it's weird to be like, seriously, like, hey, I think the group gives you the buffer.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're breaking balls. Oh, dude, you got a. Hey, go hit me speed stick or something.

[Luis J. Gomez]

See, somebody's got a booger or bad breath, I lay it on him. Hey, by the way, you know, take a thick gum.

[Joe List]

Really?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Not you.

[Joe List]

No, no.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You're playing along.

[Mark Normand]

I remember we did a roast once, and every joke about this comic was about how his breath stunk and he was like. He was like, at the end, he was like, why did anyone tell me, yeah, shoot.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Shoot me straight.

[Mark Normand]

My gosh, we should have Shoot me straight.

[Joe List]

There's a seller comic who has bad breath every single time I talk to him. And it's like one of those piercing where you're like, God damn. Like, this is beyond, like, a bad tooth. Yeah, it's beyond us. Beyond beyond. Like, yeah, this is crazy.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Inner bacteria.

[Joe List]

Yes.

[Mark Normand]

I don't know who this is.

[Joe List]

I'll tell you later. But I. I always want to say something, but I'm like, if it's ongoing, it feels worse because it probably is some real problem.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sure.

[Joe List]

Not just like, there's no way you.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Can'T cover that up. Like, hey, man, is there no way dentist?

[Joe List]

I don't know.

[Mark Normand]

But some people might just have bad breath. I don't know.

[Joe List]

It's like a rat in the walls. You got to get in there. You know what I mean?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Hey, buddy, you got a rat in the walls. That's great.

[Joe List]

Hey, that could work.

[Luis J. Gomez]

It's funny.

[Joe List]

Wow. So the guy still stinks.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, it's not great. Good guy, though.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that's wild.

[Mark Normand]

That's all right.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Good guy. Friend of yours?

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, he's a friend. Yeah.

[Joe List]

Tell him.

[Mark Normand]

I will. Yeah, you've convinced me.

[Joe List]

Watch this. Was it a cult?

[Mark Normand]

I tell him I just hear a gunshot on the other end of the phone.

[Joe List]

I'm like, oh, well, a phone call.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Would be weird if somebody calls you and does. Hey, man, from 30 blocks away, you really stink.

[Joe List]

Intervention.

[Mark Normand]

We gotta take talk.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's funny.

[Joe List]

Yeah, that'll be a funny sketch intervention for, like, stupid, like, Bo.

[Mark Normand]

You smell bad.

[Joe List]

Yeah. What.

[Mark Normand]

What were you gonna say?

[Joe List]

Oh, I've told this story before, but you know the comic, James Smith?

[Mark Normand]

I love James.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A ball.

[Joe List]

Busted. Mean son of a. He was very, very blunt, but we.

[Mark Normand]

But he was one of those negative guys that wasn't draining. He was fun.

[Joe List]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know him.

[Joe List]

Underrated. Comic killer.

[Mark Normand]

He's in Sydney, Australia now. He. We. We had good Hangs with him, man.

[Joe List]

Good jokes, killer comic. Really funny. But I got. We had a couple drinks at the Cellar. We got in a cab to go to a house party. And the cabbie, of course, cliche, smelled like. Smelled like bo. Crazy Bo's, like, coming through the glass. BBO and I go, oh, man, this guy stinks. It was like, you know, head out the window, stink. And he goes, hey, mate, you smell like. What the wrong with you? Take a shower, mate. You're working now. You're in a car.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

All night.

[Joe List]

You smell like you're gonna hurt. Hurt your customers. You're getting no tips or whatever. He's just being funny. And the guy was like, you. So I'm like, so uncomfortable because this. This Australia guy's yelling at this like, crazy African Ugandan guy and he did not take it well.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Huh.

[Joe List]

So you never know. Some people get mad about that.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Let him get mad. Then they go home and take a shower.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't think. I don't think that guy showered. You don't think I. I mean, those.

[Mark Normand]

Guys just fucked up. They work crazy shit.

[Luis J. Gomez]

If you feel better after a shower, you want to take a shower.

[Mark Normand]

Are you a morning shower guy? Do you wake up and shower? Do you do it before you go out?

[Luis J. Gomez]

I do it at all times, but usually in the morning.

[Mark Normand]

Okay.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I mean, I'll go to bed. A little ripe.

[Joe List]

Same.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I can't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'd rather shower at night if I'm like that. If I. Unless it's like, I'm getting home. Unless I need to be quiet at the house for like, whatever reason. Sleep and baby sleep. But it's like, yeah, you get a.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Better night's sleep for sure.

[Joe List]

Yeah, yeah, we.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I started doing that on the road. We get back from the bar and I'm like, you know what? I'm just gonna fucking jump in the shack. Shower. And you wake up, you feel bad. It just shut it down. Yeah, shut it down.

[Joe List]

You know what gets me is the winner. You do the coat all day. So then it's just. It's just a hot box.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Joe List]

Torso. You know, and then you get. You get home, you're like, God damn, I showered it. I still. But it's just. You're cooking your pits for 12 hours. Cooking the pits.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Lightweight jacket, casual.

[Joe List]

I'm talking on January here in New York. You need a goose down, heavy bike. Yeah.

[Luis J. Gomez]

So the Canadian goose.

[Joe List]

Good to have you, James.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, let him go. I like it.

[Joe List]

World straight.

[Mark Normand]

We love you, James.

[Joe List]

Question, is this equality? Because I would go, ah, he's an African guy. I'm not gonna say. Or he's a Muslim.

[Luis J. Gomez]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Joe List]

I agree, but.

[Mark Normand]

Well, culturally, some groups do smell worse.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Who?

[Mark Normand]

I don't know what I'm saying.

[Joe List]

You see?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Okay, okay, but what is in the. There's nothing in the text of culture. Culture that says, hey, you gotta smell bad.

[Joe List]

Now. This is a good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, but they just don't wear. They don't wear deodorant.

[Joe List]

Right.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Is that because I just. And I can't where in any of the books does it say, I don't spice.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't think. I mean, we don't have a book about American culture.

[Joe List]

There's no book.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There's. It's just like. We all have decided that we wear Old Spice. Everybody wears deodorant.

[Mark Normand]

It's good to wear.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

In India, they don't do that.

[Mark Normand]

There's also hippies who wear the natural deodorant shit. And that doesn't work.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That patrols.

[Mark Normand]

If you were in toms of man veins. Stay away from me. Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, you need some aluminum in there. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe List]

Something that our.

[Luis J. Gomez]

You know, it works pretty good. I think it's pretty natural. Is native easy.

[Joe List]

You gotta get savage deodorant.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But there would be the argument that if you went over to. If you were.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If you were a cab driver in India and you smelled like Vanilla Sky AX body spray, they'd get in and be like, dude, this car stinks. Like, come on, why don't you go home and take a shower?

[Mark Normand]

They should make it like a deodorant. It should be like a yellow checkered colored case. And it should just say, 18 hours shift.

[Joe List]

Oh, I'd buy that.

[Mark Normand]

I'd be like, this is gonna work.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

For 18 business hat.

[Joe List]

You would, but they won't.

[Mark Normand]

They're not buying that hat on Don Draper. You're driving a cab for 18 hours.

[Joe List]

You know what else you smell like.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You'Re in for other people cab.

[Joe List]

And you just smear it on the glass. And now you're smelling good. Like, the whole cab smelling good.

[Mark Normand]

You can bring a little Travel Lysol, Febreze, whatever.

[Luis J. Gomez]

There should be a milder version of the stuff that every cop puts on when they walk into the.

[Joe List]

The smelling.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The coroner's office. Yeah, yeah, we found them in the river. They do that.

[Joe List]

Genius.

[Mark Normand]

Yeah, you'd be a good cop. Dude, you hear that? Delivery. Yeah, you'd be a good cop.

[Joe List]

Hey, I could have done that on the road when I was eating ass. Just a little. Just to give me that. That gel take care of it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A little mineral ice.

[Joe List]

B holes that. Really.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Mark Normand]

What was his name?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Why'd you still go win? There you go.

[Mark Normand]

Oh.

[Joe List]

Oh, that was a shooter.

[Mark Normand]

That was just. That was.

[Joe List]

Oh, that thing was a Minneapolis.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm gonna need some of that stuff now.

[Mark Normand]

I love that we're talking about smelly stuff. We're like, you know what hates me? Smelly stuff. Mark's just like.

[Joe List]

I feel like those.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Rippers never really smell that bad. Like a ripper.

[Joe List]

Oh, my.

[Mark Normand]

Now those are. Usually your farts are more for comic effect than stench, I suppose.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Yeah, man, when I come. When mine come out with no sound.

[Joe List]

Look at Run. You got that right.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I just hear it when you set.

[Mark Normand]

A bomb off in an elevator and you're like, fuck. And then someone hits another floor, you're like, fuck, yeah. Get me out of here.

[Luis J. Gomez]

The clock is ticking.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah. Hot box.

[Luis J. Gomez]

That's funny.

[Mark Normand]

Oh, man. We should fucking wrap this. We've been.

[Joe List]

Oh, yeah. Geez. We've been going gold beans.

[Mark Normand]

Well, get plug some dates. You guys are obviously. You guys know the Are you garbage pod. They're the best.

[Joe List]

Our tour is starting up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We're going to be in at the end of September. So September 23rd, we're hitting San Francisco in Portland, Seattle.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Boys.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Boston, Atlanta. Raleigh, North Carolina. Bunch of. Bunch of dates. Phil, we're doing a met in Philadelphia. Get them thickets. The boys are coming home. Chickens are coming home to roost. Who's having sex with the hen rooster?

[Luis J. Gomez]

Have sex with everybody. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Excited about. Check out the show.

[Joe List]

Toronto, man. You guys are everywhere. I love it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We're trying.

[Joe List]

All right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Tickets are slow across the industry.

[Mark Normand]

It's been. It's hard times. When are we starting this? Yeah, so let's.

[Joe List]

Saudi Arabia. Christ.

[Mark Normand]

Milan, Dublin, Liverpool. It's coming. London, Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin. Salt Lake City, baby. Five shows back for the second time this year. Reno, Nevada, and Carnegie Hall. December 4th, baby. Can't wait.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Look at that. Carnegie Hall.

[Mark Normand]

Don't hate it.

[Joe List]

Nothing wrong with that. Oh, where the hell am I? Hell. Stinky Funny bone. Holy hell. Stockholm Chuckle Hut. Dublin, Ireland, at the Vicar Street Valley Center. We're in Baltimore at Magoobi.

[Luis J. Gomez]

There you go.

[Joe List]

Known as Timonium. Got to build a new hour. Lincoln Theater in D.C. kodak center in Rochester, Niagara Falls, San Diego and Prior Lake at the Casino Minneapolis. Coming in for a cash grab.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, that hitting the ATM machine.

[Joe List]

Yeah. Pay me in a. In a check and give it to me a week later so I don't gamble. All right, folks, you got the garbage guys. You know where to find them. Get some Bodega cat.

[Mark Normand]

BodegaCat whiskey.com. dMR Bodega Cat whiskey on Instagram. Matt will get back to you.

[Joe List]

Garage Beer sucks.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Get out of here.

[Joe List]

Leave that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Cut it.

[Joe List]

Dump it.

[Mark Normand]

We love you guys.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Candles and animals.

[Mark Normand]

All right, Sunday's a day for my next fender.

[Joe List]

A bit of P. You know, the fear juice. Close.

[Luis J. Gomez]

I've had a. A little too much burping.

[Mark Normand]

And Norman's talking shit about the fucking Pope.

[Joe List]

And I get down in the same way.

[Mark Normand]

Up on the roof like a cops coming.

[Joe List]

And naked Samuel is feeling dangerous.

[Mark Normand]

I'm out to lunch here in New Orleans.

[Joe List]

This woman doesn't look like I remember her.

[Luis J. Gomez]

And I get down in the same way we might be.

[Mark Normand]

And Doug here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Fascinating.

[Joe List]

It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Limu is that guy with the binoculars.

[Joe List]

What?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Watching us?

[Joe List]

Cut the camera. They see us.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty, Liberty.

[Mark Normand]

Liberty Savings.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Very underwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Company affiliates.

[Luis J. Gomez]

Excludes Massachusetts.