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This was in the actual house. You in a circle. They hit the African drums. This is why hip hop artists, they will use these type of beats. People think it's the frequency. Nah, it's actually the prayer that they do with these beats.
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He's trying to say that people come and pray over the rapper songs.
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Yeah, like skrilla six seven. He serves atun in Yemaya. His mother is one of the biggest witches in Pennsylvania. She's the one who introduced her son into that skrilla. God is calling you to repent. And all these missions that you doing, one failed mission, you're gon. Because the thing about santeria, if you don't do what they say, they're going to kill you right away. They're not playing. Once a year, he does a ritual, kills a chicken, and he does his blood sacrifices for Chango. Same way I got delivered and sanctified. You could be free in Jesus name. And I was getting all these things. So then when I failed the mission, they could be ready to come and attack me.
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You think you're getting blessed? Really what you're doing is you're welcoming your own hitman.
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I started not listening to them for that, being disobedient. They put my picture in the altar, and I end up losing my kidney. 23 years old. I went to this church. I broke my cane. It's called seven African protection. As soon as I go into this church, I see somebody familiar. I see a witch. The funny thing is, she was part of the intercessor team. I tapped my cane three times. Boop, boop, boop. People around me start manifesting. A woman was so scared of me, she ended up putting my picture in the cemetery. I lost my kidney transplant. Imagine me, six foot one, just like you, becoming 155. My warlock, my high priest went to the hospital. Once you get out the hospital, we have to go to Cuba so we could do the ritual. I was there for 14 days. I didn't give myself to Jesus. I gave it to achun. Right before we even get there, they had a pigeon's head cut off. And they had a dove. But you also eat the sacrifice that we gave to the enemy. They covered our face with blindfold. They start cutting my hair, skin, bald boys. Because they're gonna mock you. So you think that you're talking to your ancestors. You're not talking to your ancestors. You know who you're talking to? Demons that they had. Everybody was there. They were interceding and praying for me throughout this whole time. I went into the front. I put my hands up right there. And then I told the Lord, starting to this day forward, I'm gonna serve you even harder than I ever served the devil. I gave myself to the Lord. It still took me three months to get rid of that altar Fear, because the first thing they say to you, if you leave this, you will die one day. I said, enough is enough. I took the anointing oil. I started throwing everything out. There was things banging all over the household. My mom was mopping, and she was like, no, no, no, leave that. She was scared of those stuff. Everybody that did the ritual with me, once I gave myself to Christ, they died. I declare and I decree that there's a fire that comes right now, Lord, Father, God, and start setting them free. In the mighty name of Jesus. And the Lord reveals himself to me. This is not a podcast. This is a deliverance ministry.
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God is going to deliver just as
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many, if not more, here than he
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does inside of church buildings.
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You got to keep giving yourself over to it.
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It's proving it to you over and over.
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And the weightiness of your anointing. The Lord says thousands will be delivered.
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I'm so honored to have my brother with me. Minister Alex Cordero.
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Yes.
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Y' all see that rolling of the Rs?
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I did right there?
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Welcome back to the we need to Talk podcast. For y' all who didn't know behind the scene, this is actually our second time making this happen. The first time was so powerful that the enemy was hating on us, and we weren't able to release it because of some technical things that were partially my fault. But I believe that the Lord wants to use that mistake or mistake to bring about this episode. And y' all see by the end of it that this was ordained by the Lord. And for those of you that went through some of the things that this brother went through, your life will never be the same. And even if you didn't, your life will. Will never be the same. So I want to welcome you back. Thank you so much for being here, man.
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It's an honor, bro. I'm happy to see you again. Oh, my God. I feel like we brothers. I mean, we brothers in Christ. I feel like we straight, like brothers in the spirit. And it's just an honor to be here with you.
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Thank you.
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And I'm ready to rock and roll.
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Come on.
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We bind and rebuke that the demons that try to monetize or do anything to us in the mighty name of Jesus, and we going to stay Here in Jesus name, Amen.
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Amen.
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You on fire, man. I'm ready.
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I'm the. I'm the one that got to experience you. But a lot of people got to experience you. They saw you from other testimony platforms, and your testimony has gone viral multiple times. And I'm just grateful for you, even to accept you to come here and sit. And there's so much that you have. I'm not going to hold you back. So I want to kind of just take it back to how you got involved in such deep darkness. A lot of people have not gone to the length that you went, but the Lord opened your eyes, and now you're here, you're ministering, you're leading, and even your wife on fire for the Lord. But that didn't happen overnight. So if you could take us back
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to how it all take you back to. I wasn't even born yet.
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Oh, man.
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So I'm gonna go back to when my mom, you know, she was pregnant by me in the womb. My grandfather. My grandfather was a big alcoholic. And once he found out that my mom was gonna have me, for some reason, he gave himself to the Lord. He stopped drinking, he stopped becoming an alcoholic, and he served Jesus Christ. He became a Pentecostal.
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Okay.
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But before that, I have a background for my. From my grandfather. His mother's side, his father's side were witches and warlocks from Puerto Rico. And then my father's side also had witches and warlocks, and his father and his mother's side as well. So, you know, before I was born, my mom was going through complications and stuff like that. And after that, I was conceived. I could say maybe like six to eight months. My mom told me this story, this powerful story that, you know, we was in Worcester, Boston. I was born in Brooklyn, New York, but she ended up going to Worcester and staying with my father for a little bit. His mother saw the demon in me, and she.
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And she.
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She was a big Pentecostal, like a prophet. And what she saw in the spirit was a demon, a devil. So she put me as a baby and drowned me in. Into the bath water to try to take the demon out without even knowing that she could physically kill me in life. So my mom was like, n. We got to get out and ship you. We went back to Brooklyn. And I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. My father, you know, was in and out of jail. I never knew my father because he was into drugs. You know, he was a big gang banger, One of the top Nietas, what you call It Nietas. So there's Latin Kings and there's Nietas. Nietas was a Puerto Rican gang from the established in jail.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah. So they, you know, it was against blacks versus the Hispanics back in the days. So they, they made a gang called the Nietas and that's what. They established that in jail. And then when he got out of jail, it became a big gang in the whole northeast area, like Ohio, New York, even some parts of Puerto Rico as well.
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Okay.
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To this day. And so I didn't know my father like that. And he was in and out of jail. My mom told me at one point that he was smoking, smoking crack. And he put me as a baby there at the crack house and he was smoking crack and my mom was looking for me and she didn't know where I was at for some reason. My father took me to the hospital because he thought something was wrong with me. And cps, that's what they used to call child services.
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They still call it that.
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Oh, okay. In New York was investigating my mom stating, why is your child, you know, looking so high and everything? So my mom, you know, separated from him, they broke up and she became a single parent. Ever since that, that happened. And he's, he went to jail. He was serving jail, like going back and forth like 29 years, 30 years. Thank God, you know, he gave himself to the Lord and now he's in Arizona, actually a chapel.
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Okay.
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In Jesus name, Amen. So, you know, growing up, we had some trials and tribulations. You know, I played baseball. I wasn't, wasn't really in the streets like that.
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Yes.
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But I knew about the streets because I grew up in a bad neighborhood in Brooklyn, in the East New York area, the Bronxville area. Right by Top Scott, right by where Mike Tyson used to live.
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Yeah.
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So I grew up in that hardcore, like straight gang, infiliated and, you know, growing up in the high school areas. I grew up in high school, played baseball, played professional. I was in the draft out of high school, didn't get drafted. So I end up, you know, going to college for half a semester, then playing independent ball.
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Okay.
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So when I went to independent ball, I made the team. So I ended up coming during the winter time and I started working with my sister, my sister's baby father.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I don't know, but baby father.
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Yeah.
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And as I was going there, I started getting sick and I didn't know why. But before that happened, when I was in the age of 19, 20, I met a friend, and I started establishing 21 divisions. 21 division is Dominican voodoo. If nobody doesn't know what that is. Dominican voodoo. They worship saints and all different types of levels of saints, like Papa Candelo, Santa Manta, Eviejo, Sanalea. So when I went into this apartment because they invited me to a party. They call it a misa. So I went to this party in this misa, and I went in there, and they asked me, you know, you just want to go to a gathering, you know, like a church. I didn't know what was going on. I went there, and everybody was there. We all were sitting down. We was all just having a good time. And then they started doing this ritual. Out of nowhere, out of nowhere, they start this ritual. We all go into circles, and we have to stay just like this. Hands free. Don't cross your legs. Everything open.
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Did they tell you don't cross your legs?
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They tell you not to cross your legs. They don't explain to you why they. They don't want you to cross. Cross your legs. But the. But the Lord gave me revelation now that the reason why they wanted everything to be open was so that the spirit could come inside you. So when we started doing the rituals, the first thing they do is they put florisa water. Florisa water is floral water. So you start from the florisa water. You start anointing yourself from the bottom to the top. You know, as us, as Christians, we anoint ourselves with. From the crowns of the heads to the soles of our feet. No, they start backwards. You start anointing yourself backwards. And the reason why they do that is that when you start anointing yourself, you are putting demons upon you. You're already starting a ritual by putting perfume, by putting these things on you so that they can. They're already open. You're already open to it. So as we get into the ritual, we're in a circle. They have the rosary beads, they saying the Hail Mary, they making it seem like this is Jesus Christ.
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Like Catholicism.
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Yeah. Like Catholic. Yeah, but it's not. It's not. But they paint that picture because us, we don't read the Bible. We don't understand that I'm coming there. And I'm like, okay, we're going to a church. I'm so used to that as a kid, you know, my grandfather, when he got saved, they went to Pentecostal churches, and I used to go there. I didn't understand Spanish. I didn't know what they were talking about. So I Would just go there, you know, and have fun or go to sleep. Yeah. You know what I mean? But this was different. This was 21 divisions. This was in the actual house. And they were circle. You in a circle, there's cups of water. The cup of waters are like open doors. So they put a couple. A cup of water for the saints and all that. But there was also open doors so that, you know, you got the mermaid spirits and all that to come and enter. Yes. When I started speaking more about the spirits, understand more and you have, you know, we in a circle and as we. As they doing the rituals, they talking about the hair Marys, they, you know, they going into the. To the thing and then they start doing Palo music. So Dominicans, they do palo music. They. They hit the African drums and they do the beats and stuff like that. This is why hip hop artists, they will use these type of beats from the Enemy and put it inside their stems. And then when they go into their stems, they do the prayer. See, people don't. People get it confused? People think that it's. They put it in the atmosphere. No, they start the prayer. They pay people.
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Are you trying to say that people come and pray over the music of rapper songs?
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Yeah, people think it's the frequency. Nah, it's actually the prayer that they do with these beats and then they put inside the stems and then the engineer starts working with it. It's not, it's not. Oh, we're going to put it in the frequency and then it's going to keep going. No, they're going to actually get the beats. They're going to actually ask the high priest, put this. This music and bring it up and I'll pay you anything you want. Because they believe that, you know, that's the higher power, that's their gods.
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I heard there's a song that was playing, I see it on TikTok. These were not people that were believers. They were saying, I don't know, they were cussing like, I don't know what the f it is, but anytime this song by I think his name is Gunna plays in the club, it feel dark and demonic.
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Yeah.
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Every time this song we getting blank tonight. We're getting blank tonight. They said everything changed. And I start. Everybody start feeling weird. Everybody start looking it start feeling like hell. These are not believers that's talking like this.
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I can give you an example. Like skrilla. Let's get to it.
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Let's go.
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Skrilla. He made this big rival song called six seven. See it's not the actual number. Six. Seven is what he portrays and what he. What he serves. He serves Achun and Yemaya. Achun is the goddess of the lake from Santeria. See, before I say this, I need to. I need to speak to the camera and let. Let them know that what God put in my heart about Skrilla and his mother, because his mom is a big witch. His mother is one of the biggest witches in Pennsylvania. She's one of the biggest witches. She's the one who introduced her son into that. And it's a small. It's a small community. So I want to speak this upon them and let them know that God's been calling on them. Just like Jezebel. Just like Jezebel. God said to Jezebel to repent. So Skrilla, God is calling you to repent and your mother to repent and let them know. And he's letting you guys know that you can serve him spirit and truth.
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Come on.
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And all these missions that you doing, once, one failed mission, you're going to die. Because the thing about, about Santeria and witchcraft and these high priestess, if you don't do what they say, they're going to kill you right away. They not playing. They not playing. Once you disobey them, it's a wrap. And once you.
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You.
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You don't do your mission, it's a rap. Once you miss your rituals that you have to do. Once a year, he does a ritual. The beginning of the year, he. He kills a. He kills a chicken and he does his blood sacrifices for Chango. He's one of the highest, One of the highest saints that they have.
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Saints?
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Yeah, these saints. But anyway, I'm going to go back to 21 divisions. I just wanted to. Skrilla. I know you watch because you be seeing my stuff. God is calling you the same way. I got delivered and sanctified. No blood sacrifices, no contracts. Is sealed by the blood of Jesus Christ. You have. You could be free. In Jesus name, everything's going to be taken away from you. But I guarantee you your salvation is not going to be taken away from you.
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Come on, man.
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In Jesus name, Amen. Anyway, back to 21 divisions. So we get in this circle, we start doing this ritual. Everybody's open, they start doing the music, the Palo music. And then they start manifesting.
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Oh, no,
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you got man manifesting into woman saints. Woman manifesting into man saints. And the reason why I'm saying that because in Santeria and all these things, there's a lot of homosexuals involved in this. And the reason why is because a lot of Christians reject them and they just want Jesus because in this lifestyle, they put Jesus in statues in 21 divisions. They have the white Jesus in 21 divisions in the altar. So they thinking that they serving Jesus Christ as well, but they blind because they're not reading the Word.
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Come on, man.
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The word says it right there that we should not worshiping idols or other saints but Jesus.
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Come on.
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Not even Mary.
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Come on.
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And people don't understand that why is because we're not in our Bible. We're not seeking them in spirit and truth.
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Come on.
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We're not having a relationship.
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Come on. So they. So men are manifesting. You mean like they're moving like women,
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they dancing like women. They start talking like women. See, I used to get manifest, but until a man. We can see everything but our bodies. We won't know how we react. We can speak different languages. We will understand it in English. These are demons that's coming inside you when they doing the rituals. You allowing demons to open inside you and come inside you.
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Have mercy.
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God open doors. I know a lot of people don't believe in this, but there's spirits and principalities that come and possess your. Your body, especially if you're not a Christian.
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Come on.
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These are for people that are not Christians.
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Wow.
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And they say that they Christians, but they not they can manifest into your body. So there's. There's men start acting like women. They will put a dress on because they put costumes on. They put a dress on and they'll start dancing like a woman. They start smoking cigarettes, start drinking. And once the manifestation is over, they act like they're normal. They're not drunk, they're not high, they're not nothing. They. They act like this never happened to them. And this is only in 21 divisions. We're gonna get more.
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So if they was filmed and saw themselves, they'd be like, that wasn't me.
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Exactly. They filmed themselves. They wouldn't even know that that was them. Even if you look into their eyes, you will see a totally different person.
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They're not there.
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They're not there when somebody will come and approach me. Because when they approached me my first time, I saw someone different. I didn't see that person, but I saw somebody different in their face, in their body language. Everything I saw was different. When a guy came and approached me, he says, you are powerful. You don't even know how powerful you are. And I said, powerful? He said, yeah, we could give you everything you want. And that's what I wanted. I wanted the power, I wanted the fame. I wanted to play baseball. Like, that was my passion growing up as a kid, I wanted to play baseball. And I was like, okay, if I do this, I'm gonna make money to support my mom. She's a single parent. We grew up in poverty in Brooklyn, New York. I didn't have a father. I didn't have a father figure in my life. I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't have somebody who spoke into my life.
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See, that's where I think this is so dangerous, because you said that because of rejection, they find themselves in the open arms of this thing, and they're willing to go that route. And you see, when Satan tried to tempt Jesus, he tried to play on his identity or. Or who. Who he was. And for that demon to speak those things to you, that demon knows. See, the. I always say this. The enemy is very familiar with our wounds. He's familiar with our voids. And he attempts to help us fill those voids with false things. Which is why when he tempt Jesus, he tried to get Jesus in the place of hunger, which is a physical void. Say, I want to help you fill your void. But how did he want him to fill his void? By taking a stone and turning it into bre bread. And the enemy wants you to take something that wasn't meant for something, to use it as something. Now you're using sex and objectifying women. You're using drugs to destroy your body. You're using music to try to be a God. All of these ways that God could have designed music, but he don't want you to use it like that. And so if the enemy saw your wound, every time someone said, you know, they had a cult experience, they, you know, experience with Satan. They always say how the enemy came with flattery.
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Yeah.
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And told him all these great things, like, you're the highest. You're going to be my highest soldier. I'm going to make you over all the witches. I'm going to give you all of these things. Same way he came exactly to Jesus. It's like the same old stuff.
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He don't come just straight.
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You just said, if you fail a mission, they'll kill you. They don't tell you that in the front end.
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They don't say none of that at the back end. Like, back end. Yeah.
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We got to know the trick and the plan of the enemy. He'll come with the big talk in the front. But the fine line.
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Yeah.
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Come on, man.
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Come on. Like you said, the devil doesn't have any new tricks. It's a rotating. It does. It's like a hamster wheel does the same thing over and over again. And we, the hamster that keeps getting in that circle and continue going and going and going, bro, why? Because we don't know the Lord. We don't have that relationship. We're not in that secret place and speaking to the Lord and ask him, Lord, what you want me to do? Come on, release that to me, Lord. Father God, Because I can't do this pressure on my own. Because that's the problem with us. Our pride and our insecurity is what kills us. And as a man, we tend to block things out in our childhood trauma.
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Come on.
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There's a lot of things that happens in the childhood trauma. Even women. Don't get me wrong.
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Yes.
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Don't get me wrong. This is why deliverance comes hand in hand when it comes to therapy. Come on now.
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Someone said this, and I truly believe it. They was like, it's one thing to cast out the demon. It's another thing to heal and tend to the soul. Some people like, especially demons, when they occupy a place, they leave it jacked up.
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Yeah.
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That's why when the demons left, they come back and say, oh, look at my place, all nice and clean. Oh, you think it's going to be nice and clean? Let me come. Seven with seven more demons to make it worse than it was before they come, and they'll damage that place. And so that's why we need the Lord not to just come, but to come and to fix us, to fill us.
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Right new.
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All those damaged places, those voids, the emotional trauma, we can have people talk us through it, but we need the Lord to heal us from it.
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Right?
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Right. Deliverance is not just a demon being cast out of us. It's not just us leaving Egypt. It's us going into the place that God calls us to be.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, man.
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And what he does to block things out is to put your spirit in captivity. People don't understand that we get into that place of captivity. If you're addicted to drugs, guess what? Your spirit is in captivity in the dungeons.
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Talk, talk.
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If you've been molested in your childhood, there's a spirit of captivity in your childhood, of you being a little girl or a little boy at age of 9 or 10 years old in that corner, trapped, even though the gates is open because Jesus, what, he got the gates. But since we in A block stage. And we don't know that. Guess what? That gate is open. But we here in the shadow, hiding.
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Wow.
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Because we don't know if that's Jesus or that's the devil that's coming. Oh, Holy Spirit. Thank you.
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Wow.
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Holy Spirit. Thank you.
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In open cells.
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Yeah. Yikes. So they told me this. So I started the process of doing the anointing. That's what they call. They call it the anointing. But I started doing the bath in 21 divisions. So when we do the 21 division, they do Floriso water, they mix it with another perfume. And when we do this, this bath, you're pretty much naked. You use a bottle of water and you wash yourself.
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You put it.
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You pour from your head to your toes, and then you let it air dry. You don't dry it off. They don't want you to dry it off. They needed to be air dry. And once it's air dry and all that thing, that perfume that's in it, that's more spirits that they putting upon you. There was one thing that my high priest told me was because I felt shaky at one point, and I'm like, why am I feeling so shaky and anxiety and anxious? And he goes, it's like, you are the bus. And everybody's coming in, and they coming in and they coming out. They're coming in and coming out. See, the Lord gave me was like, I'm my temple, and I'm allowing these demons to come inside to oppress me. And I didn't know that. So every time I will do these rituals, there will just be more demons and more demons. I'll get anger. I'll have anxiety, I'll have rage. I have different spirits that comes with different demons, demons at different levels. You have a spirit of incubus and succubus. You have this spirit of anger. You have the spirit of death, you have the spirit of suicide that comes upon you. And I was getting all these things. So then when I failed the mission, they could be ready to come and attack me anytime I want. Wow. Wow.
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Dang.
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Yeah.
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So, so basically, when you open up for. For those demons, you think you're getting blessed, you think you're getting healed, you think you're becoming whole, but really what you're doing is you're welcoming, yes, your own. It's almost your own hitman, your internal hitman.
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You're building a portal into your body.
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Oh, my gosh. It's almost like you're welcoming the bomb. And it detonates when you disobey them.
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Yeah.
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So you do the something that they don't want. Want you to do.
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Boom.
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They start triggering. That's why when I've had people try to lead, like, they go into tarot readings and different stuff like that. And when they try to get out, the enemy start hijacking their minds.
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Yeah.
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Like, they start being tormented.
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Yeah.
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Oh, my. So when you try to leave, they'll make it so hard for you to leave.
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Yeah. So hard for you that you have suicide thoughts. That you'll be up during the witching hour, going insane, walking around like a zombie. Because in Haiti, they got zombie spirits up in the mountain. This is real. In Haiti, I've done Dominican voodoo, Haitian voodoo, Jamaican voodoo, African voodoo, and Cuban voodoo. And they all the same. Even the tarot cards. That's the thing that they do for 21 Division. They also use tarot cards as well. The shell reading is the Cubans, the Africans and the Haitians. They do the shell reading with the coconut.
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Yo, fam.
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It's deep. It's too much for me. It's deep.
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Oh, my God.
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So I started, like I said. I started with 21 divisions. I went. I went into 21 divisions. I did that. I did the air dry. And then for one week, each perfume they give you is different saints. So I'm gonna give you an example. So Papa Candelo. Papa Candelo was a big guerrilla spirit, anger spirit. That was the main guy I had in 21 divisions. He was. He was. He was a black man. He wore red pants. And he was so strong, spiritually and physically, he was strong. When he'll come in manifest into you, you become a strong person. You start hitting things, you start walking on fire. And he will show how. How strong of a man he is. He will use a cigar and fire and burn himself like this. He'll burn himself to show you that there's no pain. He will flip the cigar, put it into the burnside, burn it, and he'll look at you and like, this is not happening to me. And this was me.
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You did those things too?
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I did all those things. He manifested that into me. When I started this 21 divisions, I had to do a perfume one week, perfume of just him. Every morning I would put the perfume on, put it all over my body for a whole week. Until that. Into that, into that perfume was dried. Dried up, empty. Then I would do another saint. Do I do another saints? Because there's. There's different. There's different divisions. That's why it's called 21 divisions. They had a red division. They had a white division. They had a black division. I had the red division, one of the highest divisions in 21 division.
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Hmm.
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So I was there for a couple of years.
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What did you want, man? Like, you were doing this. Did you want power? Did you want fame?
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I wanted power. The reason why I wanted power is because they said I had power. They said I was anointed. There's something amazing with me. And this time I was playing professional baseball, so I wanted that so I can increase with the fame with my family. At that time, I was about to have a baby, so I. I even put her in it, and she got. She got bathed into that. By the grace of God, that's canceled. In the name of Jesus, that generational curse is canceled my bloodline. Amen. Amen. And, yeah, we. I wanted that. I didn't know better. I. I grew up without a father, without. You know, And I didn't know. I wasn't. Like I said, I wasn't reading the Bible. So I'm thinking this is the Lord because they have rosary beads. I grew up as a Catholic. I got baptized as a Catholic as a baby. My mom was a Catholic. So I'm saying I'm seeing this. I'm like, this is Catholic. We worship in Jesus Christ. Look, Jesus Christ is right there. And then they have the baby Jesus. They got a baby Jesus. Come on. I bind and rebuke. There ain't no baby Jesus in the name of Jesus. Come on.
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So a majority of these people think they're pursuing godliness. Yeah, they think they're pursuing something, right? Because they. It's syncretism. They're mixing relics of Christianity, of things that are religious into demonic practices. And so these people that you. That they meet, they'll say, no, no, we like Jesus. No, no, we reverence God. So they wouldn't even know that. They're in deception.
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They don't know. And then it goes back into slavery times. I could bring it back to slavery times when. When. When Africans came to America and they were. They were being slaves and this. And the masters were serving what saints? Catholic. So what they wanted their slaves to do was worship Jesus and their saints. So what African people did, they made their own saints. And what they did with their own saints, they put it right behind those Catholic saints. It was witchcraft. That's what witchcraft established. That's where you see Hulu. Hulu comes from America, from the south, from the Southern. That's when it comes with the African voodoo. Then it migrated to, to the Caribbean areas because the slaves went to the Caribbeans. Then you got the natives. The natives also worship, worship other idols. They have their own personal things.
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So you mix them all together, Santeria
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and, and, and, and, and, and all that. They mix all that together and they saying that this is, this is all from God and it's not, it's not at all.
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Have mercy, God, God, we need you.
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So a couple more years later I started doing my own thing. Cuz they telling me I have my own power. So I started doing my own thing. I started not listening to them and I used to get in trouble a lot. So for that being disobedient, they put my picture in the altar. What? Once they put my picture in the altar, I end up going to, like I said, my sister's baby father. I used to work with him and we was, we doing scaffold at the time. And this is right before I was going, I was going to go back to Arizona in the frontier league. I literally just got signed, I did the tryout. So I got signed and I said, let me just work, you know, let me work for a couple months during the winter and then when springtime comes, I could have money, you know, and I just started getting a headache. A bad, bad headache out of nowhere, real bad headache. So I told, I told my former. I was like, hey, I'm not feeling well. I think I'm gonna go to the hospital. So I asked my sister to come with me. I end up finding out that my blood pressure was over 200.
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Nah.
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They did blood tests on me and I ended up losing my kidney.
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How old were you?
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I was 23 years old. 23 years old.
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And what was your prior health conditions?
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I had no health problems. I was, I was perfect. I was fine, healthy, athletic. I was like you, strong.
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How did you know they put your picture on the altar?
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Because they end up telling me when I left.
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Oh my.
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When I left 21 divisions.
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See, that's why I was saying when people get into this stuff, you don't got no real friends. You don't, boy, you'll put my picture on the altar. And what.
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And the only way it triggers is because I had open doors. Oh yeah. If I was a Christian. You put my, my stuff in the altar, it's going to get broken. In the name of Jesus.
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Yes.
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Why? Because I don't have open doors.
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Yes, yes.
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People don't understand that.
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Jesus said, you know, the enemy is coming, but he has nothing on me or nothing against me. There's nothing that he. That I have, that he. He owns. And I think that's really, really important. We got to make sure that we close all doors and give up anything that they could consider a legal right or their possession. You got bitterness that bel. You got lust that belongs to them. You got stuff in your house that. That is an altar to their kingdom. It belongs to them.
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Unforgiveness, too. Unforgiveness.
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So when they strike, it'll reach you.
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Yep. And this is why whole. The scripture tells us in Ephesians 6,
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to put on the whole armor of God. And what is the armor of God? You hit the breastplate of what?
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Righteousness. Yep. The belt of what? Truth, Shield of faith.
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All of these things provided by the Holy Spirit. And if we're walking in the fullness of his spirit, then the enemy can't touch you. It's literally the armor. To in the spirit is to walk in the armor of his spirit.
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Right.
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Come on, man. I'm sorry.
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So I find out they do blood work, and they tell me I lost my kidney. They said my kidneys was shrivel like a sponge in.
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In one day.
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It was. It probably. It was probably a process that you didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know I had back pains. I thought it was cuz, you know, I played. I played baseball. I didn't know it was a. This thing started happening. I started getting cramps. I used to work out. I'm thinking it's because I need to drink more water. No. These are all symptoms of kidney failure that I didn't know. And I didn't have a history of it. Wow. My family did not have a history of this.
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That's crazy.
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So it wasn't a generational sickness.
B
Come on.
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It was a generational curse because of witchcraft. But that's. That's. That's another story. You know what I mean? My goodness. So as I go into the process, they say I need an emergency catheter. They had to put an emergency catheter on me.
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You know, that's like a old people's thing.
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Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. This is. This was new to me. I had. I had no experience of kidney failure. I didn't know what it was. I didn't know how bad it was. I thought it was nothing. I'm like, all right, put this catheter on me. Clean out my blood. I'm gonna be good. Yeah. So they do the surgery. Put the catheter on me now I'M going straight to emergency dialysis. I'm doing emergency dialysis for 4 hours and 15 minutes. While I'm in that process of 4 hours and 15 minutes, they are removing the toxics out of my blood, liquid fluid out of my blood. As I get towards the end of my dialysis treatment, I start losing the breath. I'm losing my breath. The worst thing I ever felt in my life was taking that one last breath in the air.
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You felt it?
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I felt it. I went. And then I blacked out. I died. I died. You know when people say they died? This. My experience was I saw darkness. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't know what it was. But later on, as I became a Christian, the Lord was showing me that I was in the captivities of dungeons, sitting there waiting, huh? And God, for some reason, woke me up and got me out because they revived me. I was revived 10 minutes, and I didn't know that I was dead. They had to tell me. You just died. And we brought me back to life.
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So the ones that put your. Put your picture on the altar, they were probably trying to kill you.
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They were trying to kill me. They were trying to kill me. All because I didn't want to do what they wanted me to do. I was being disobedient. That's what happens when pride and the demons come inside of you. You become prideful. You think that you're the man. You think that you can do whatever you want the same way. God has an order, the devil has an order as well. See, people don't understand. They're more organized than Christians. When I'm talking about if you have to go to church an hour early just to sweep and clean. No, they already at the mesas. Three to four hours cleaning, prepping everything up, getting ready for everybody to come and serving the high priest and making sure he's good. But we can't even come an hour early, clean up the place, intercede, pray. Not even fast, because they fast, too. We can't even fast. And we just walk into church like nothing. Come, I receive you, Lord.
B
You're saying they got more honor for their high priests and their saints than we have the Lord?
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Because we're too comfortable. They know that they lost already. They know they lost the battle. See, the problem is we know we won the war, but we need to continue fighting that battle.
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Listen, I just talked to my men. When David fell after Bathsheba, they said he was. The men were at war, and he started just wandering on the Roof. That's where he saw Bathsheba. And I was just like, what happened to the fire in David? When he was like, you know, going against tearing up lions and bears and killing Goliath, he got comfortable. He done. He done cut the head of the giant off. And then it's just like, I won already. One of my brothers says yesterday's victory holds no merits for tomorrow's battles.
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Exactly.
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We gotta keep fighting. Like, never get comfortable. Don't take your foot off the gas. When it comes to this thing, when it comes to this walk in Christ, we can afford to.
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You know, I used to feel like, man, God, like, I'm going so hard for you today. Like, maybe tomorrow I could take off
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the Ezekiel cape and just ain't.
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No, no, there's no way.
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If you go rest. Rest in me.
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Because guess what? Even the devil was even watching Jesus when he was walking around, waiting for him to slip so he can.
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What did he say? He said he left Jesus and waited for a more opportune time.
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Yeah, he's just waiting for us to
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take our foot off the gas. Yeah. You've been fighting lust. You've been fighting all these thoughts. You've been fighting all this stuff. The enemy is like, oh, you. When you fighting, I'mma back off. I'm just waiting till you just chill.
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Chill. And then someone come out of nowhere and like, hey, how you doing? God forbid.
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Come on, Christians.
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That's.
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That, that, that. That's really inspiring. And it's. It's convicting and it's. I don't want to say it's shameful, but it's very convicting to say that those people that serve a false. They serve false gods, false saints, false holiness, give more reverence than we do.
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Even Muslims. Let's go with that.
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Come on, man.
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They pray more than we do to a false God. Have mercy, God saying, allah this, Allah that. And Allah is not even hearing them. When God said, just come into the secret place and I will speak to you.
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Have mercy, God.
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And why he wants you in the secret place? Because there's a shield around you that the enemy cannot hear what you. And the. And the Lord is speaking on you. He puts a shield. I feel the Holy Spirit right now. He puts a shield on you so that he can have that one on one, that relationship and give you strategies how to defeat the devil himself. Come on, man. And we can't do that. And the Lord's not saying, oh, give me three hours, four hours. Sometimes he's telling you, I just Just sit there and bask into my presence. You don't even have to say anything. Just bask into my presence right now.
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Come on.
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And I will shoot revelation on you. I will speak in your ears. I'll even show you visions. If you can't hear me, I will show you visions, dreams.
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Come on.
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I feel the presence of the Lord and we can't.
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Come on.
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We can't do that.
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Why?
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Because we allow what we see in front of us. The distractions get the best of us.
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Come on, man.
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Come on. It's. That's. That's the time we living in. We live. We living in Matthew 5. When wicked is good and good is bad. We live in an ending times. This is why we have to be more strong.
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We have to.
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We have to fight in that front line.
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Jesus, wake us up.
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You got to get in that front
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lines slower and slower.
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So like I said, I died. The Lord gave me the revelation when I became a Christian that I was in the dungeons. I got revived. My family was there. My mom was crying, my aunt, my grandma was crying. They telling me, God saved you. You need to give yourself to Christ. So I said, okay, I'll give myself to Christ. I said, I gave myself to Christ, but in my heart, I didn't give myself to Christ. So I did the sinner's prayer with them and I was at the hospital for like a whole month because I had to wait. I didn't have. I didn't have no health insurance. I had nothing.
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Wow.
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So I had to stay there until they gave me, you know, insurance, Medicaid and Medicare so I can go in to establish a dialysis center. So I stood for a whole month within that process. I was struggling. I was struggling hard. There was days that there was times that I would do dialysis and I'll pass out. I didn't die, but I passed out because it was so strong. I never experienced, you know, dialysis before. And it was just sucking out so much fluid in me because I had so much fluid that build up. Don't know how this happened, but I had build up fluid that they needed to drain out to clean the toxic. So Jesus, have mercy. I finally go, I finally got out the hospital and the first thing I did was, you know, I want to be obedient to my. My grandmother and my aunt. I went to this church. I went into this church. I brought my cane. The cane that I only had is called seven African Protections. This cane is. It's a saint. It's an African protection saint. And I took it with me because I. You know, when you're doing dialysis, you're so weak, you. You can't walk. You're not walking the same. You know, your whole body system is just different. So I end up going to this church. And the funny thing is, my daughter came with me, too. She came and support me. And as soon as I go into this church, I see somebody familiar. I see a witch. The witch looked at me. You know, there's signs. They used to do this sign, or they would put a head nod that they know, like, we know each other. Those are kind of different symbols that they have in Santeria. So I saw her. We knew each other. The funny thing is she was part of the intercessor team. She was in the intercessor team.
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See, bro, I.
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Let me tell you the story. We don't. I'm. I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell you the realness about the dad.
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God forbid.
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So as we worshiping, she starts manifesting. They think it's the Holy Spirit, but she's speaking demonic tongues and manifesting these demons. While she's manifesting these demons, there's people around start manifesting the same demons that she had.
B
What?
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I said Christians, right? No, these weren't really Christians. They were Christians that had open doors. Like I said before, Christians that are spirit and truth.
B
Come on.
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Won't get possessed by any demons if they don't have open doors or legal access.
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Come on.
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Like we speak about. Yes, I saw that intrigue. I thought this was normal. I'm coming from. From Santeria, but we also believe in God and Jesus Christ. So I'm thinking this is normal. I'm like, oh, this is. This is a worship. Oh, we're gonna have a good time. I tap my. My. My cane three times. Boop, boop, boop. People around me start manifesting. People around me start manifesting. I'm like, oh, wow, this is really happening. The pastor, towards the end of the worship, he start realizing this is not God, and he stops the worship right away. He stops the worship right away. He didn't explain nothing. He didn't say, oh, this is demonic. He didn't say nothing. He just stopped it right away. And I noticed that he noticed that. See, we got to be careful having witches and warlocks in your intercessor team, because people think that they just come and start throwing spells. No, they come in within the intercession team, and they build portals. Within that portal, they build a cord, and then that cord they put in that Cord and into the belly button of your pastor to cause what sickness upon them.
B
That's not the first time I heard that.
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And the reason why I know this is because now, as a Christian, I have done deliverance. And I had prayed to cut the cord because the Holy Spirit told me what this was going on. I didn't know this about the time when I was. When I was in that. In that lifestyle. I didn't know that this was going on, but the Holy Spirit showed me. He gave me revelation. And then this happened a couple times that I know that I had to cut the cord. And they use cascaia. Cascaia is like a eggshell and florisa. And it's like a. It's like. It turns into like a chalk and it's white and it's. And you could. You could. You could write circles on it. You can also make a portal in the crowns of your head, which we're going to talk about that later on. I'm going into more depths in detail, but I'm trying to explain to you guys that you have to be careful who you have in your intercessor team. That's the most important team is your intercessor team. That's the one who's going to, what, protect your pastors, your apostles, you know, your prophets?
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Yes.
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And you just bring anybody that you don't know because you're not using, what, wisdom and discernment, and you're not praying anybody into your intercessory.
B
Come on.
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And that's the problem now, these days.
B
Come on.
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Oh, they are nice. They're friendly. Oh, they speak tongues. Is they really tongues? Because you don't have discernment of what is demonic and what is holy.
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Today. Today I was just charged to pray for the intercessory team. Nobody prays for the intercessory team because the intercessory team is always praying for everybody else. And the way God just gave it to me right now is he said, in the body I've given immunity. And immunity is developed or is functional or operated by the T. I think it's white cells or white T cells, something like that. These are the line of defense for the body. So if there's an intruder or if there's something, a toxin that's not supposed to be there, these cells begin to fight for your body, to protect your body against disease that will come and take residence in your body. And the reason why the body of Christ ends up sick is one, because either they don't realize the necessity for intercessory teams or two, because the intercessory team is compromised. You know what happens when the immune system is compromised? You see it in the body that has aids. AIDS is called something about immunodeficiency. Is. Is. Is a body that has a compromised immunity.
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Yeah.
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When the church has intercessory team that is compromised, then the church is vulnerable. The enemy, Satan himself only attacks the vulnerable. The enemy is. I got to say it out loud. The enemy is a coward in that he only attacks the vulnerable. He didn't say, all right, Jesus, I'm going to wait till you feel strong. He said, I'm going to wait for a vulnerable time.
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And when he did that during his fasting. Come on, man. And intercessors, what, what they do. They fast a lot. As the body, we need to pray for giant angels to come into their household too and protect the four corners of their house. The four corners of their intercessor prayer.
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Yes.
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And put a shield around them in
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Jesus name, shield around the line of
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defense and help them get wisdom and discernment. Who's the sheep and who's the wolves?
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Oh, my goodness. Come on, man.
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Holy Spirit, you working today? Because I don't know how I'm saying this. I'm from the streets, you know what I'm saying? I come from Brooklyn, New York, and I be talking reckless. But when the Holy Spirit is in me.
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He raised you up, man.
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It's the Lord.
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Yes, sir. So this is chaos happening in this service and you start participating. You knocking your cane.
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I'm knocking on my cane. And people are manifesting and doing demonic tongues. And the pastor is like, this is not normal. Doesn't say anything. Because Pentecostals, they like to keep everything on the hush hush. Especially the front churches, the Spanish ones. There's just so much legalistic is. It's funny. It's just too much. So I end. I stopped going. Something told me, just stop going. And I went back to that lifestyle. But instead of going to 21 divisions who tried to kill me, I end up going somewhere higher than 21 divisions. I ended up doing arishas, African Cuban voodoo. I went to this high priest from Cuba that he migrated from Cuba to New York City. And I had to sit down with him. And the same thing he said, the other person said to me in 21 divisions, the same thing he said to me, that you are powerful and we could use you.
B
Wow.
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And he goes, but you have to take all those saints that you got from 21 divisions, put it in a box and deliver it back to the Catholic Church.
B
Wait, what. What. What just happened?
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All the saints that I had from 21 divisions. To remove it, I had to put them in the box and put it right in front of the door of a Catholic church so I can be safe. When he told me to do that, I was scared. Scared and embarrassed. The reason why I was scared and embarrassed because I had to put him in a box and put it in. In a Catholic church. And I don't know if people probably thought it was the. I'm from Brooklyn, New York. They probably thinking there's a bomb or there's something going on in there. And I was scared to do it. So I put the box not in front of the door of the church. I put it on the sidewalk, and I. And I dipped. I left. I left real quick. I had a car. I just drove out real quick. And then I started my process. Orishas.
B
Real quick. Let me ask you this.
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Yeah.
B
As far as men are there a lot do. Is it hard for these organizations to get men or. There are a lot of men in them.
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There's a lot of men, but there's a lot of men. That's homosexuals as well.
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Because I'm just asking because it seems like their strategy is like, hey, we can. God can use you. God can use you. And I see sometimes I know men, I guess, avoid churches now because I don't know if they feel like they could be used. They're not discipled. They're not leaders.
A
Let me ask you a question.
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Yeah.
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Who did Jezebel worship? BAAL Bell's a man. You have to have that man figure just like God. That's what the dev. The devil follows the same thing as God because he wants to be God so much.
C
Yes.
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He.
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He has witches and warlocks, but you always. You have. They have witches, but you have to have that warlock. The same way Jezebel. Jezebel was. Yes. How to break Jezebel is go through bell, not Jezebel. Yes. You send the Jezebel to the dollhouse, and then you have to break the. You got to break the bell to get to Jezebel to relieve. Release that deliverance out of her in Jesus name or him. Because men can have Jezebel as well.
B
Absolutely.
A
So there's a lot of men, and it's not. It's not. There's straight men, too. Don't get me wrong. There's a lot of straight men.
B
Wow.
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But the majority is homosexuals. That's crazy. Because they get rejected by other churches. And I'm going to look at the camera right now. I know there's righteousness that we. That the Lord gives us, but we also have to give some mercy and grace to these people because rejection, rejection.
B
Come on, man. Come on.
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Can lead people to hell. Yes, we know homosexuals are sin, but if we bring them into the body of Christ.
B
Come on, man.
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And we allow Jesus to break them down, they have no, no ways to say, lord, I'm going to serve you in spirit and truth. I know I have a sin. You're going to deliver me from this in Jesus name. And I believe that you're going to deliver me from that. But first I need to establish a relationship. I need to get discipleship within love.
B
Yes.
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Yes. We could give them righteousness. We could speak to them strongly.
B
Yes.
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But we have to. There's a way.
B
Come on.
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Discernment and wisdom.
B
Come on, man.
A
We don't just rule them out.
B
Come on.
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And that's the problem.
B
Yes.
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The religious spirit comes in. The religious spirit is heavy. Religious antichrist spirit.
B
Come on.
A
Combined together. Come on, man. Pharisees, they all come together. So I got. I got scared. I dipped. I ended up going to the next level for Odishas. The high priest spoke to me. He tells me, you know, you're powerful. He says, I see you going different countries and doing what I do. And this time, mind you, I'm still. I still. I lost my kidney, but then my sister blessed me with her kidney.
B
Oh, that's amazing.
A
Yeah. So a couple years after that I got blessed with a kidney. So I'm strong and I'm doing what I got to do. But I'm in orishas now and I'm in a different level. And the way they do the rituals is in another level. And this is only mesas. This is not the. When they get baptized, this is not what they. When the misas. When they have. In circles is. You go in a circle, you start doing the prayers, you start doing these, these, these rituals. The same perfume, same exact thing as 21 divisions. But you're sitting there and the high priest is prophesying things into your life. Like he's a. Like he's a prophet and he starts speaking upon you and putting fear into you so that he can say that he can protect you and you can spend more money on him and he could cover you.
B
Like what kind of, what kind of things would. Would he say?
A
He would tell the person. There was one example, there was a lady and he Goes, you having stomach pains? And she would say, yeah. He says, you have cancer. He says, I'm going to do a ritual. I'm going to do a. We're going to do a blood sacrifice. You have to pay me this, this and this and that. And we're going to. We're going to take out that cancer. And she would do it, of course. And these are people who are not. They. Not they. They're not baptized, but they. They. They are in the circle wanting to need help. There's different levels. You. You can't. You can't just. And not everybody can get baptized. There's something that you have, and that's the anointing that God gives you in the wound that nobody doesn't know that God gives you that wound, that gift and that anointing that the enemy even knows what you have. So what he used to do was. He used to have me see things and tell people, and for some reason, I would know what was going on. I told this one girl one time, I said, you be out in the clubs and there's a guy that's waiting for you. Multiple guys are waiting for you, and they want. And they. And they want to rape you. And this happened, and she. And she got away and she was like, oh, wow. And then she stopped. She stopped hanging out in certain hours. Instead of three, four in the morning, she would. She'll come home by two in the morning.
B
Like, I'm doing better, y'.
A
All. Yeah. Yeah. But. But there was just certain details that the. That that spirit would tell them.
B
It was giving you prophetic insight, but
A
it was putting fear on them. Why? So they can keep on coming for more.
B
Of course.
A
Coming for more. Coming for more.
B
Yep.
A
Paying the high priest, make sure he's good. Feeding. Feeding the saints by doing rituals.
B
Giving the sickness and being the cure.
A
Yeah.
B
Giving you fear. So I could be your protection.
A
Then, like I said, we had. We had. We had drug dealers. They would come. There was times that a drug dealer would. They would. The high priest would say, hey, you're about to do a set. You're about to do a job, and the cops are going to come and invade it. And he will go, don't do that job. He won't do it. The police invaded it. And then you'd be like, oh, my God. There was times the drug dealers, they commit murder. They will send them to Cuba, have them stay there in Cuba for a month or so, and then they will come back and they'll get protected. And it would be like, A vacation for them. But you had to pay. You had to do certain rituals so that you could get protected.
B
So you get away with stuff.
A
Yeah, so that was. That was. That was the beginning stage. And then as I started getting stronger and stronger into that, he says, I'm going to start doing the rituals so that you can go to Cuba and get baptized and do all this. So first. The first step you needed to do was after I did the bathing is the same thing. It's the same thing as 21 Division. Do the bathing, you do the perfumes. Then they mark you. This is different. They mark you. So what they do is they put a mark in your shoulders, in your back shoulders. I still have one that's still there. The other one's not. It's like an X in your back. That's the first ritual before you get to that step in Cuba. And you do that. And then he continues to go to the. Ask them what else you need to do. Start preparing yourself. You have to start preparing yourself to buy, like, all the materials of you going to Cuba. Everything got to be white. And if you wear black, they don't want no black for some reason. No black, That's. That's like evil for them. If you wear all black, that's evil. And you get fined. You have to pay the saints. Why? Why? They want you to be white. White is pure. You open. They want everything to be open. Everything you do is open. If you cross your legs, you can't do that. They say, make sure you stay like this when. When you. When you speak it to them, because what they feeding into is the demons that's inside of you. They are speaking to them. That's how they know so much about you.
B
I heard when these false prophets come and they come into the churches, they look, they create some type of means to make sure that you're in agreement. One thing that they do is they say like. Like they have the culture of saying prophesy, papa. Or like, you know, open. Like, they open up in different ways. Like, give me more prophesy to me. Open up. Lift up your hands. The man said, like, when the. Stop, y'. All. When, like, sometimes they'd be like, lift up your hands. Lift up your hands. And sometimes they're looking at their palms. They want to see some type of openness, some type of agreement. Speak to me. Prophesy to me. Open your hands. Lift up your hands. All of these are the same things,
A
the same exact things. Like I said before, the devil doesn't have any tricks. He doesn't. Everything. Everything's the same thing. It's just different languages. Different languages,
B
yeah.
A
So I go through that process. I end up being in a relationship. And in that relationship, a woman was so scared of me, she thought I was doing bad things to her, but I wasn't. She ended up putting my picture in the cemetery.
B
Okay, man, why did he keep doing this to you, man?
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And when she put my picture in the cemetery, I lost my kidney transplant. And when I lost my kidney transplant again, it was. It wasn't something that just happens right away. I started losing. I was. I was 200 pounds. I ended up becoming 155. And I was eating normal. Imagine me, six foot one, just like you, becoming 155. I was looking like a skeleton. And my face was sunk in. So I was dying. Why? Because there's a spirit of death in the cemetery.
B
Wow.
A
And I had open doors already. I already had the spirit of death in me. I had the spirit of infirmities in me. So it was so easy for them to, To. To come and. And do what they had to do.
B
Have mercy.
A
So I end up. I end up getting sick. And it was on my birthday. It was on my birthday. I had to go to the hospital. They had me in the icu. My mom had to tell my daughter. And my daughter, she. I. I think today the reason why I'm still here is because of my daughter. Because she believed in Jesus Christ. She fell on her knees and she plead to Jesus to keep me alive. And I'm here because of her. But even within that process, I still have my warlock go to the high. My warlock, my high priest. He went to the hospital, he ended up putting a saint under my pillow. Bro, guess what saint was it?
B
Which one?
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Lazarus. They call it Saint Lazaro. They put Lazarus the saint, the one who, who died and got rosed up. They put it under my pillow to protect me. So in his mind, he thinks, oh, we saved you. But he don't know that my daughter was in the background interceding, praying for my. My salvation, praying for my life because she needed me.
B
Listen, this is a lesson for everyone that's in darkness right now. And you think you're being protected by the darkness, by the charm. Listen, it is the mercy of God that is keeping you. The accident that should have took your life is not because of no charm. It's not because of no tarot cards, not because no medium, no psychic, no false witchcraft powers. The Lord is giving you another chance.
A
Yep.
B
The Lord had Been with you the whole time. The Lord had protected you the whole time.
A
And it's so.
B
We're so foolish and so stupid to think with. It's our luck, it's our smartness. It's the stupid darkness that we affiliated with. And we give glory to that. Oh, thank God for this stupid saying or all these things. Oh, my warlock. And all of these things. And the Lord is standing back saying, if it wasn't for the prayer of a child.
A
If it wasn't for a prayer for a child.
B
That's my power.
A
Well, he said in the scripture, come on. If we only could be like that, to have that faith. Like that little. Those kids right there.
B
Come on.
A
If we have that faith. Just like people were asking the Lord, Lord, what can I do? Just like that little kid right there.
B
Yes. Yes.
A
And he answers the prayers because she had that faith.
B
Yes.
A
Did she know about Jesus Christ? No. But she knew who Jesus was. She never read the Bible, but she knew that there's a high power and his name is Jesus Christ. And I'm going to pray on my knees and I know that he's going to hear me.
B
Thank you, Lord.
A
And he saved me. And I say this to this day, that Jesus saved my life.
B
That's right.
A
And the reason why I went through these circumstances is for his glory.
B
Amen. Amen.
A
This was already planned when I was in the womb. This was planted. Why? Because of generational curses. In Deuteronomy, it says it, you go to the third and fourth generation, whatever you did in your first and second, the third and fourth will get. Will get worse. And that's what happened. My first generation of grandparents did witchcraft. It didn't hit my mom, but it hit me. And she stood away from that. She was scared of that. But it hit me.
B
Can you believe that?
A
Why? Because I had no one. I had no father in my life. I had to realize that as a Christian that had daddy issues. I didn't even know I had daddy issues. And to God told me in the secret place that you have a father issue and you need to burn in that.
B
Come on.
A
Before you even serve me. Spirit and truth. Wow. I didn't know that. Because when my father came back into my life, I was cool with it. I wasn't angry at him. I wasn't mad at him because I learned to.
B
What?
A
Block things out. Come on. And my mom kept me busy so that I won't be distracted looking for a father.
B
Just because you don't cry about trauma. Just because you never, you know, Felt
A
it in your heart and felt the pain.
B
You never grieved. It don't mean it didn't affect you, man. Sometimes, man, our grieving just looks like. Looking for an alternative.
A
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
B
I smoke every day. Well, there's nothing I don't hate my dad like.
A
I'm good.
B
I'm good. Why you smoke every day? Well, I'm good. Because you don't realize until you get to the bottom over. Until the Lord reveals it to you. I had to realize stuff was in my life. I was like, man, I needed affection for my dad and I didn't even know it.
A
I always respected my dad. I love my dad.
C
We cool.
A
But there was something that I needed,
B
and it was until the Lord revealed it to me. This is something that I wanted from him. And I didn't even know I wanted it. This is why we have to trust in the Lord. Why? Because there's things that's happening in us
A
that we don't even know.
B
There's things that we wanted that we didn't know we wanted. There's things that we know we need that only the Lord knows what we need. So we gotta lean on the Lord, right? Keep going, bro. I'm sorry.
A
No, that's a. I'm gonna add more to it. General. General. Generational perversion is strong because we saw things that our parents was doing. We tend to block that. And then we end up looking at porn.
B
Come on.
A
Or we start masturbating.
B
Come on.
A
Masturbation. Incubus succubus comes and then you. And then once you get finished masturbating, you establish new demons into this earth in the spirit realm. People are not talking about that because people don't understand that. Oh, my goodness. And it comes from generational perversion. It comes from. From stens of things that happened in your past that you didn't even know him.
B
Why?
A
Because we're not seeking God's spirit and truth.
B
That's right. That's right.
A
We not. We not have mercy. So, yeah.
B
Wow.
A
I end up going again. End up being in dialysis. The high priest came. He put St. Lazarus under my. My pillow. Kept me alive. And then he told me, once you get out the hospital, we have to go to Cuba so we could do the ritual. It took me about three, four months because I had to get established a passport and everything. This was during the time that Fidel Castro passed away. So people, if you know about Cuba, like, it was hard back in the days to get into Cuba from. From. From America. But I got in.
B
Why?
A
Because people knew what I was going there for.
B
My bro. My bro that came on the podcast, talked about, he said this. I never heard nobody say this. He said I had demonic favorite. He was like, I was able to get away with stuff I wasn't supposed to get away with because the devil wanted me to go deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper because if I would have got caught, maybe I would have turned my life around.
A
I was like, that is crazy. People don't understand that the devil even knows your anointing. So the more you. You go deeper, the more you straying away from your anointing. From God.
B
That's right.
A
So they're going to make you get into that place. They're going to make you get into that. That fame and whatever you want. They want you to get that. Yep. Because the more you in that, the more you're not looking for God.
B
Come on.
A
That's your God. And then you're going to say, thank you, God. But what guy you worshiping? The guy down there. The logi.
B
Come on.
A
So I'm in that. That process. We get to Cuba. As soon as I get to Cuba, the ritual starts right away. I was there for 14 days. 14 days. As soon as I get there, boom, I'm in there. First thing we go is we go to the. We go to the Lake of Achun. Achun is ifa.
B
That's Nigerian ocean. Yeah. That's crazy.
A
Ochun is ifa.
B
Wow.
A
We go to the Lake of Achun. And when we go to the Lake Achun, I had the same clothes that came from in the airport. They cut it. They threw it into the river. I was. I was naked. Remember? I still had. I had a catheter because I lost my kidney. And they dumped me as a baptism into the Lake of Achun. I gave myself to Achun. I didn't give myself to Jesus. I gave it to Achun, gave it to Achun. Everything that. All the clothes, everything that I had, they put it in the bag, they threw it in there with her. So not just only your body, but everything that you had, the clothes, your scent, everything went to the. To the Lake of Atum. Then when we get out of the Lake of Atum now, we start that ritual. The real, real rituals. We go into the room. It's me and a sister, because they do it with pears. A man and a woman. I had Achun and Obatala, which is one of the highest of the demons, the gods, the saints that they had. She had Yemaya. Which is the queen of the ocean, which people say is Starbucks, the lady from Starbucks. And she had Chango. Chango is like one of the. One of the biggest gods that comes from the. The ancestries and stuff like that. So we. In this. We're in this room, and in our room, they already started the rituals. So right before we even get there, they had a pigeon's head cut off, and they had a dove head cut off, already dead. And they placed it on the plate. And we stood in a yoga mat. I stood in one corner, she stood in another corner. The dove symbolizes the Holy Spirit. The pigeon, I don't know what it symbolizes. It probably doesn't symbolize nothing. But from that, I can see that they were trying to mock God. So we started there. We were there for a couple of days. They started doing rituals. They. They'll. They go back to your. To your. To your past. They start speaking about things. They. They. They write a big book of what you need to do. Once you start. Once you. Once you're in the process of Bachun and the process of obatala, there's certain things that you can eat and you can't eat, and they'll write it down or how. What you need to do to feed your. Your altars.
B
Oh, no.
A
So when you establish. When you get your altar, you can establish how. How to break it down. Give them coffees. There was. There was. There was. There was a. There was an instance that in the book, it says that I better. I cannot cry in front of. In front of her, because if I cry in front of her, anybody that I'm crying and. And they know who it's about, they'll come after them in the spirit. Yeah, they will come after them because she will protect. She will protect her.
B
Her.
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Her. I couldn't eat pumpkin seeds, anything that had to do with pumpkin. I couldn't eat anything. If I try to eat it, it would make me sick, because that was hers. I had to give it to her. Coffee. I had to give it to her. I could drink coffee, but I had to make her coffee. I had to give her her own cup of water. It would sit there. She won't eat it, but it would just sit there. It's like a blessing. It's like an offering. So this is what they writing in the book. Making sure you know what you have to do. Make sure to keep your rituals going. The next level. And the next level. There was one. There's one incident that he told me that I have To. I have to. Once I. Once I'm done with all the rituals and someone died, I had to make sure that I had to be in those cemeteries so I can get the spirit so it could protect me.
B
What? Wait, what? What happened if someone died.
A
If someone died from natural causes, like an old warlock or a witch, I had to make sure I go there so I can take their spirit. Because they saved me. That's how they were keeping me safe, which is not true. They were just adding more spirits in me.
B
Why did you feel like you needed to be safe so much?
A
Because they. I lost my kidney, so they were trying to keep me alive.
B
Okay, so. So all of these things are happening because of rituals, Demonic things. Yeah. So the fear is set up. The fear. And now they're trying to sell you safety from the fear. They sold you?
A
No, what they were doing is putting more demons on me so once I fail the mission, they can kill me faster.
B
This is crazy.
A
Yeah.
B
It makes so much sense, man. Like, all the evil eyes and all these things when you see people, oh, I got these crystals. I got this. It's all for protection. All for protection. All for protection. I'm just like, bro, what are y' all running from? What's got y' all so paranoid? And I realize people that's in that world, the number one thing they always say is paranoia, anxiety, fear.
A
Yep.
B
Is one of the number one things that happen, because the more afraid you are, the more you're going to seek protection.
A
Yes.
B
And the more you bind yourself.
A
Right.
B
And the craziest thing that I'm noticing about this stuff, too, is they always want you to keep feeding your altar.
A
Feeding your altar.
B
And in scripture they say, you know, keep the fire burning. And so the enemy wants something to replicate. Just like, no, I don't want this to fade. I want. I want this relationship with this demon to have a constant. Have constant reminders. Affection and interaction.
A
What? A covenant. Talk about that.
B
Paul recommends that spouses. Hey, if you're fasting, you could take a break. But y' all always need to be coming together so that there's activity.
A
Right.
B
In the same way you just said it. When you're in covenant with a demon,
A
you gotta keep the fire burning. And that. That's what keeps them controlling you. Oh, my God. So you become a puppet.
B
And this is why they can say they have legal access. Not only do you have a covenant, you're keeping it alive.
A
Yeah.
B
This is a flourishing relationship.
A
You keep on feeding it. Why is there more women than men in that religion, their menstrual cycles.
B
Oh, yep.
A
They use that too.
B
Sure do.
A
An African.
B
Sure do.
A
They use that menstrual cycle. That's why you see more witches than warlocks, because they can use that. Holy spirit, you are working today. Holy spirit, you are working today. You are putting some work today.
B
Nah, man, nah.
A
So
B
we.
A
We. We learning all this. They writing this in the book for us. Then we go into the process of blood ritual. Now we doing the animal sacrificing. As we get into this animal sacrificing, we're in a circle. They have all the altars of every saint, every witch and warlock, because they have. They have a. They have witches and warlocks all over. Not just only in America, but all over the country. Like I said, they bring their saints. If they come in to visit, they bring in their saints and their people saints. So that we spend like, you're spending a lot of money for these animals and whatever goes into their pockets. So you spend like $5,000 or even more to do these rituals, to do these. To be. It's called crown. Crown. Crown has become like a warlock to be crowned it. So you're spending like five, seven grand. I only paid half because it was emergency. By the grace of God. I still haven't paid the other one. And I'm not in the mighty name of Jesus. Yeah, I was scared because I thought I had to pay it. And God said, no, you ain't paying that. I paid it for you. But so we. They start with the goats. They start with all these different type of animals. And you see it, and I'm in a circle and I'm feeling weird. I feel like I'm in. I'm in a place. I'm like, man, I can't even back out right now even if I wanted to. I can't. I'm too deep in it. Yeah, I'm too deep in it. In my mind, I'm like, yo, I don't want to do this. I don't want to see no blood sacrifice. Like, I never saw this in my life, and I'm in it. I'm like, man, I know in my heart this is not the right thing. And I'm still doing it because I'm too deep in it.
B
The lie of the enemy.
A
That's like when someone says, I live in a double life, but I want to give myself to Christ, but I can't give myself to Christ. Why? Because I'm too deep into having multiple women, and I can't leave one without the Other. So I'm not going to give myself to Christ because I'm too deep in this relationship. I'm too deep in this relationship.
B
Just like people when they're late, they be like, there's no point of trying to hurry to get there. I'm already late. I used to say, like, you know, if I committed a sin in my life, I would be like, well, I'm not going to just come to the Lord like that. Because I used to feel like, yeah, I don't want to disrespect God if I know I'm never. If I know I'm going to do it again. So let me just let God have a break from me because I'm already here. Like, let me sit in my sin longer so, you know, I'm not going to. Just because I'm a real one. I'm not about to do, you know, that's why people be like.
A
You'd be like, come to church.
B
They'd be like, nah, let me. Me, let me clean myself up first. Let me get myself together. Because I'm already here. Like, you know, when I get better than. That's a lie.
A
It's a life in the enemy.
B
You're never too deep. You're never too far. Never too far gone. You're never too broken. You're never too messed up. And so even in that moment, while you're in that, you could call upon the Lord and say, right now. So somebody might be listening right now and say, no. Like, and I are. I'm already. I'm already with this person. I'm already too deep. I don't got no money. If I leave this, I'm be homeless. If I stop this right now, I'm be embarrassed. There's something that's telling you in your ear.
A
It's a blessing. You have to lose everything so he could build you back up. I had to lose everything. I had. I had Bens, I had cars, I had money. I was. I was doing. I was doing a lot. I was doing worldly music. God ripped that away from me and started all over again. If it wasn't for my mom, I would have been homeless. That's how God stripped everything away from me. Even. Even when having Social Security, he removed that from me when I was. I had a kidney disease. I couldn't even get Social Security because I needed to be out and I needed to be filthy and dirty everything so that I can have that encounter. Because that's what God wants. He wants that filthy rag. He wants you to Be that. That paralyzed person. So when you pick up that mat, you don't drop that mat. Because I kept picking up my mat.
B
Remember?
A
I said it. I said it before I picked up my mat. I went to church, and guess what? I put it right back down. But God says I need to. I need you to have that encounter.
B
Yeah.
A
So that you won't pick up you. You won't drop that mat no more. And you keep on going to me. Yes, into my feet.
B
Eat. Thank you, Lord.
A
Yes, Lord.
B
Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. So for that person that's listening, maybe the Lord wants you to lose everything. Maybe the Lord wants you to walk out that relationship.
A
It's a blessing that you. You lose everything. It's a blessing that God's going to destroy everything away from you because you got something better. Just like Job. Job lost everything.
B
Yes.
A
And he was a faithful servant.
B
Come on.
A
He was a faithful servant. But he knew. God knows that he was so faithful to him that he can lose everything. He will get 10 times.
B
Come on.
A
He was not going to go to the devil. But for us, it's a little different. We got to lose everything so that we can call on God. Please help me. Yes, help me, God. Because I can't do it on my own.
B
There it is.
A
I can't do it on my own strength. Release everything upon me. Yes, release it, Lord. And if I fold, Lord, I'll come back again. And I'll submit to you again. King David did it. He had lust and perversion on him all over.
B
Come on. Murder.
A
But he still had the heart of God. He still had the heart of God. And God said, that's my son. Wow. That's my son. So as I'm in that, I'm in that ritual, I'm deep in it. I said, I'm just going to continue doing it. So they did all the animal sacrifices. You would think that would be enough. It's not enough. After you do the blood sacrifices, you actually eat every animal that was sacrificed. So not just only you see the blood rituals from others, from the altar around you, but you also eat the sacrifice that we gave to the enemy, to the demons, to seal it, to make sure that it's fully, fully, fully covenant. Because what. It's a covenant? What were you doing? There's a covenant in the darkness, and there's a covenant in. In. In heaven, in the kingdom of heaven. We're going to break that down soon because the covenant with heaven is. It's a blessing, but it's also dangerous as well, we can talk about that. So I did that. I did the. I did the. I ate it. I had to eat it. After that, they did a big party, like a little party. I had a. They had me dress up like a. Like royalty. They build like they make your. It's like a costume. All royalty. I had gold all over me. Gold, white and gold. Because I had a chun. So everything was white and gold. They build me a big beads. They were huge beads so that people can know that that's my head was achun. Everything else was the small beads. But then there was big ones. I had gold bracelet that I had to keep. And nobody can't touch them. If they touched them, then it was a problem. They would break instantly. And then I had to go back and they had to redo it again. And they had to pray on it and everything. If it broke. They gave me the bracelets. They gave me all that. People will come. They will give you gifts. So everybody in Cuba, they will give you gifts. They were poor, so they will give you gifts like food or whatever, like cards or something. If they had money, they would give you the money. They give you money, like cents and everything. But I'll donate it back. And that day was over. The next day we did another ritual. And this ritual was a blind ritual. So they. What they will do is they will. They will put us in a. They will put us in a circle, me and the other person and in that circle. Well, it's not really a circle. I'll sit here, and she would sit there and they would put a blanket over us and they'll start doing music. But they will do demonic rituals in demonic tongues and demonic languages that we don't understand. While they playing the drums and the beats and all that. They saying things demonically. And they covered. They covered our face with a. What do you call that?
B
Blindfold.
A
A blindfold. And then they put a sheet around you. And while they do that, I had long hair. This is why I keep my hair long. They start cutting my hair, and it's not like New York would they. They'll cut it with
B
clippers.
A
Clippers. Now they literally cut it with scissors. And they would. With a knife. And they will shave you. Skin bald. Skin bald. And the reason why they. They. They. They do a skin ball is because they're going to mark you. And the mark is, like I said, the Cascaia, the cascade is that shark that I told you about that has eggshells and florisa. They mark you right here in the Crowns of your head with the chalk, white chalk. And then they, they do the red paint like a bullseye in your mark. Now as a baby, right, where do you breathe from? Where do babies breathe from when they, when they become a newborn and they crown of their heads, that's where it's soft. That's where they breathe. That's where the demons oppress you at. Right in here. They mark you right here. So they can attack your mind. So yes, they oppress you in your body, but it's more here. They can do so much in your minds.
B
Come on.
A
Delusion, confusion. Make you see things that you're not really seeing. Yep. So they marked me there. The next day is. The next day was like the last day. Now is the, like the going out party. That's what they call it, like a going out. We go before, before I go out, they all the clothes that I brought. Because that day you have to, that's when you start wearing all white. They, they iron it for you. If they see anything like a little dirt or a little black, they make sure they wash it very well for you. Nice and clean, nice and white. It's like real spot clean. Then they put it on you. Then they keep that, they, they keep that cascaia and then it's like a Muslim cap, you know those Muslim casts and they cover your head because you cannot uncover that for three months. Three months, yes. You have to keep that on and I'm going to tell you why. So they'll cover that. Either I put like a Muslim cap on or I'll put a durag and I'll cover it. So I get dressed, I dress up nice. And the first thing he does is because we get to go outside. He takes me outside to his backyard and the sun is beating real bright. He puts my head upon the sun. He starts speaking demonic up in the air. I didn't know what it mean at that moment in time. But as I got into the secret place as, as a Christian, God was telling me that he was mocking the Lord. And he was telling the Lord, I got one of your kids. Like haha, I got one of your kids. That's what God was telling me. When God told me, that hurt me. It hurt me so bad because I'm thinking I'm doing this for the Lord. Because at the end of the day, yeah, I've done some crazy stuff. I wanted power and all that, but I always told the high priest, I want to do this for good. I want to help people. I want to do white Magic. Because in their lifestyle they say white magic is good and black magic is bad. So I said, I want to do white magic. I want to help people. I want to. I want to, you know, I want to do good. He would never respond to me. He would just go, oh, okay, okay. But he would never come in agreement with it. He would never, like, stir me away from it. It was just like, he'll brush me off, like really brush me off. And I just like, you know, I want to do good. So he does that. Now we go. Now we go into the big. It's like a parade. They do like a little parade. You go to. We go to this church, the biggest church in Havana, one of the biggest Catholic church that they have in there. And they have me, they have me with an assistant, like another witch that walks me through. And everybody's like cheering because they know that I just got. I became Santo. I became crowned, Crowned. So everybody is like celebrating because they don't know. They don't know better. We got to pray for the people from Cuba because that's all they know. That's what their ancestors, that's what they believe in. But I'm going to tell you today that your ancestors are in the deeps of soul waiting for their judgment. So you think that you're talking to your ancestors. You're not talking to your ancestors. You know who you're talking to? The demons that they had. It's talking to you and you thinking that, that you talk to your ancestors. You're not talking to your ancestors because why? Demons can transfer into other things, other peoples, and make it seem like you talk to your ancestors. You can make it seem like you talk to your grandfather or whoever. And it's not your grandfather. It's a demon. It's a fallen angel. This is what people need to understand. Don't look up to your ancestors. Look to the Lord Jesus Christ for your answers. We too worry about our ancestors and following what our ancestors do. That's the problem with us. We're trying to keep the generational curse going because we want to follow what our ancestors did. No, we need to follow what Jesus want for us. Come on, man. And what the Lord wants to do in our lives. And the problem as us, as the third or fourth generations, some of us don't even ask questions because we learned that we're not supposed to ask questions. We just got to do it. And it is what it is. If your parent says, you got to do this, you got to do it. Don't question Me, Okay. I don't have to question you, but I can ask the Lord if it's the right thing. Come on, Lord. Because you're my father. You're my Abba. I come to you first.
B
Yes.
A
And, like, people don't understand that, you know, so we got to. We got to keep Cuban prayer because that's why you see a lot of. A lot of hurricanes and a lot of devastation over there. Because God is not in that. In Genesis, God stays away from what sin. So all that devastation is. That's the demons having a field day. They're allowed to do that. The same thing. What happened in Brazil. They. They do that too, because they do a high witchcraft in Brazil, high witchcraft in Haiti. All these. Puerto Rico as well. All this devastation. And you. And you asking, you asking God, why are you doing that? You asking, you asking God and you praying, God protect them. And God's saying, I'm not in that.
C
That
A
because they don't serve me. They serving other witchcrafts and other gods. That's why things are happening. Why? Because we got free will.
B
Wow.
A
Let's talk about free will. People who ask, why?
B
Why?
A
God bless me with a kidney, but there's so many other people that's been better than me. Good. Good in me who had cancer and they dead. Because we have free will. We have free will. I don't know. God had a purpose in my life. And, you know, I pray for those people that, you know, that happened to. I'm sorry that happened to them. I'm sorry that, you know, their kids are. Are struggling with that and they can't see God. But that's something that you have to ask God. And then this can be an encounter from that. God can do something with that. If you question him, if you ask him, when you go into that secret with God, why my father died and there's so many other bad people still here on earth.
C
Earth.
A
And God would answer that. God will answer that. Like I said before, I should be in hell. I should be in the pits of hell right now. But this is not the plan for me. This is the plan that God gave me. And all I'm doing is being obedient to Jesus Christ. All I'm being is obedient to God. Why I'm being obedient to Jesus Christ? Because Jesus Christ died for us on the cross.
B
Let's go.
A
His blood is sealed in the ground. You think those 30 dying lashes that was dripping down on the floor was a. Was just a purpose? No, there's a purpose. To it, you know, there was just no reason for it.
C
There's a reason.
A
Why? Because there's seals of that blood of sin that's happening and there's healing involved in that. Come on, man. That people don't understand that revelation of blood dripping down on the ground. And what he's doing is sealing the land on the earth.
B
In Genesis, God said, cursed be the ground for your sake, Adam. And they called Jesus the second Adam.
A
Yeah.
B
So with the curse that God put into the ground, the Lord Jesus Christ brings restoration and healing so that no longer do we have to work to receive from the ground, but instead we can rest in him and trust in him to be our provider. Not just for to feed and to eat, but our provider for righteousness, Provider for joy, our provider for peace. Man. He restores. Come on. Mercy.
A
Because if it wasn't for him, we would not get mercy and grace.
B
Come on.
A
Because that's what he plead for us.
B
So good.
A
Before he even came to this earth, he said, I want to die for the people. I want to die for the people. Because I. They already knew this was going to happen. I already knew this was going to happen. So he said, how can I make it this an example? By just bringing my son so people can understand that. You see, your father died, right? My son died for you, too.
B
Wow.
A
Oh, I'm a father. My son died and I don't understand why. It happened in a car accident. And the Lord said, my son died for you. And I had to walk away because of your sins, because God can't be around sin. So when he was in the cross and the blood was dripping was all the sins of us on earth, it was already paid for. And God had to remove himself away from that because he could not be around that. He could not be around that. So when he died and resurrected, my son is here. My son went to captivity, got the keys removed. Everybody he raised hell. People from who died came to life. And he wanted to make sure. He wanted people to know that he was God.
B
Come on.
A
At that time.
B
Come on.
A
I probably. I'm probably. I'm probably over, you know, talking, but this is the Holy Spirit.
B
Come on, man.
A
So we go into the church before we go to the church. We just don't go into church. I have to explain this the same way. There's four corners. There's angels in the four corners of the earth. Witchcraft. They do the same thing. They walk four corners and they start throwing the cascaia. They throw in evil spirits in four corners. Not Just only in churches. I want to give this, I want to, I want y' all guys to make sure so y' all can understand. They, they do this to four corners and churches, cemeteries, police and hospitals. Why? So they can take over the region. They could take over the area. They could take territory. This is why you see, for example, Atlanta, Georgia, the way it is right now, so much crime. Why? Because they take territories in New York City right now. There's a spirit of death falling upon there. And then you see these YNS that they say YNS they're not. That's a spirit of yn. It's a shape shifting spirit.
B
Why?
A
Because they cover their mask. They using shiesties.
B
Yes.
A
And when you see in their eyes, you don't see the kid, but you see the spirit that's in there. It's a demon inside them and it's shape shifting to different kids all over. And that's why it's very important that they continue having a Deliverance mantle in New York City. If you don't have a Deliverance mantle in New York City, I'm. It's going to continue getting worse and worse. There's so many kids right now that are dealing with that needs deliverance.
B
Yes, straight up.
A
They need deliverance all over. Because of the music too.
B
Yes. For real.
A
They, they do. They putting cross upside down crosses on themselves. They wear hoodies. They talking demon time and they talking this and this and that. They projecting what other artists are already doing. They do the rituals and they think it's cool because they're doing it now. Guess what? Now the whole region has it. The whole region has it. And they're making dances and you know there's more gun violence in New York City than back in the days in the 70s and 80s, which it was high. Back in the days. You're seeing more kids. They're shooting, they're stabbing. And some of them, they don't even know why they doing it. They even saying it. Something came inside of me. They're getting possessed straight up. I believe that is what they see on tv even with the streaming access. That's a new demon. What they, what they watching on YouTube. In the, in the streaming. We do deliverance and we have to, we have to cast those out in the mighty name of Jesus. And it starts when they were kids, these new Gen Z's. It all started with, with the iPad.
B
Oh goodness.
A
The same way we elevate the demons elevate, they start new doing new tactics, new strategies, man.
B
With technology. Yeah.
A
With Technology, Sexual perversion with roadblocks. Let's talk about that. That's all coming. That's all coming out. So like I was saying, before we go into the church, you do the four corners. They start throwing stuff on it. Then we go inside the church. When you go inside the church, you will see all different types of demonic saints that you never even heard their names before. In the Catholic Church, you see the father, the priest, or whatever they are. They there just hanging out, and people are just coming there. They're putting flowers there. They even have a saint for a house. So people are praying to get a house, and they put in flowers for the house. They putting candles to this. To this place, asking for stuff. You see that? I thought it was amazing. I was taking pictures. I was like, oh, wow, this is beautiful. It looked like a museum. And all you see is demonic demons. There was one picture that I have that. The doll, it looks like it was following me. The eyes, they looked so real. Now that I see it now I send it to you. The eyes look so real. Look like it was looking at me. It was so evil. It was so evil. So I'm. We done with that. We end up going to the. We end up going to back to the house. We celebrating. We having a good time. I start learning more. I start learning how to do the beads and start doing the prayers again. They use the florista water to anoint it. So a lot of. A lot of these stuff is from the floral water, believe it or not. And this is in regular pharmacy. You see this in the pharmacy. You see this in. In a supermarket, and you think it's. It's just something that, you know, healing because they make it seem like, oh, this, this can heal you, you know, for aches and stuff like that. Nah, this is all demon things. And plus, when you pray on it, you projecting demons in there as well?
B
Yes, absolutely.
A
So I did all the rituals. I was supposed to do dialysis over there. I was there for 14 days. I was supposed to do dialysis. We ended up going to a dialysis center. They couldn't do anything with me. So when I came back, I went straight to the. I went straight to my clinic. The clinic said, did you do dialysis treatment? I said, no. They shipped me. They shipped me right away to NYU Hospital. I go to NYU Hospital. They said, oh, we got to do blood work to see how your toxic is. And if. If it is, then we're gonna have to do some. Some emergency dialysis. I mean, we have to monetize. You just in case something happened. They did my blood work. Nothing. I had no toxins. Everything was clean, clean, clean as a whistle.
B
So did you feel like you got healed over there?
A
They made it seem like I was healed. Okay. I was like, wow. I was there for 14 days, and I felt good, too. So it wasn't something like, you know, when you. When you miss dialysis, you get so weak, you feel heavy.
B
You.
A
You feel like your chest. Like your palpitations are real, like your heart. Because if you have, like, a lot of potassium, your blood. Your blood flow starts pumping real hard. But everything was good. I felt good. I came back good. Everything was good. So they brought me back to my. To my dialysis clinic, and I ended up doing regular dialysis treatment that same day. My nurse, she was a Christian. She was a worshiper, actually. She came to me. She noticed I was wearing all white. She was Hispanic. She was actually Venezuelan. I thought she was Dominican. She was Venezuelan. I was. I was on my. All white, had all my beads because I can't. I can't be out without them. And she goes, can I pray for you? And I said, yeah. So, yeah, you can pray for me. Why not? I'm thinking it's God anyway, right? So she started praying for me. And when she prayed for me, she touched one of my bracelets. Mind you, I told you, you're not allowed to touch none of my braces.
B
Why?
A
Because you're not. You're not even allowed to let them. Like, with money, you have to put it on the floor. You can't let nobody touch you with. Because you. You're like a baby. Like a new baby, like a newborn. You're not allowed to get touched. They're not supposed to touch your beads. They're not supposed to. You're not supposed to look at somebody in the eye. Nothing. That's why when you do deliverance, you say, look at me in the eye. Absolutely. So she touches my thing, and she says, can I pray for you? I said, yeah. She starts praying for me in a powerful prayer. She didn't rebuke me. She didn't do none of that. She just prayed for me, started planting that seed, and I'm. And I start crying, and I just don't know. I don't know why I start crying. And I said, thank you. You know, the. The next day, my. My thing popped.
B
My.
A
My bracelet popped. Had to go to my high priest. I had him redo it. The next day, it popped. She was the first one to plant that seed. I didn't realize that until later on that she was planting seeds. There was. There's people that was planting seeds.
B
Oh, yes.
A
Even my brother. Like, my baseball brother from high school. Like, nobody don't know this, but my brother, Jason Powell. This story is really, like, really big. I played with Sean Bell. You ever heard of the story named Sean Bell? The guy who got murdered? Yeah. So got shot. Yeah, that was my teammate. That was my baseball teammate. We was John Adams, Spartan baseball. Like, I've been through so much stuff in my life that you be like, nah, I can't believe that. My brother, Sean Bell. My baseball brother, Sean Bell, he passed away during that whole thing and whatever. So my other. My. My friend brother, he was, like, close to him. He's a pastor now. His name is Jason Powell. Shout out to Jason Powell. He was connected with the G units and with 50 cent and all them. He's a pastor now. He was planting seeds in my life. He was saying to me, oh, man, you need to see God, man. Like, all these. Sickness is not. It's not, you know, God. God got a purpose for you. Absolutely. You keep surviving. There was. There was a. There was a kid. Not a kid, but a grown man. He was in my baseball team. He. He. He got sick and lost his kidney, and he died right away. And he. He didn't do no witchcraft. He didn't do nothing. He was a good, steady young man. He played professional baseball. He. He ended up coaching high school. He ended up becoming a teacher. And he died. And his twin brother died. No. Yeah. First his twin brother died, and then
B
he died in the same. Around the same time.
A
No, a couple years later.
B
Okay.
A
Wow. And these are good people.
B
Wow.
A
But me, I'm still here.
B
Have mercy.
A
And Jason Powers is telling me all these people are dying around you and you still here. God is calling you. He. He was ministering to me. He was like, God is calling you? And I was just being nice. I was like, yeah, I appreciate that, man.
B
Wow.
A
And then I met my wife. She was. She was gangster. She was gangster. And the reason why it was like. Like, it hit me the most because she came from the same lifestyle I came from.
B
Wow.
A
She was into Santeria a little bit. Wow. So when we first met, it was by accident. I was trying to message another girl facetime. Another girl that I met in California. I was trying to talk to her. I end up, for some reason, her. She called, she picked up. And she was doing her at that time, too. This is around Christmas time. And we both picked up Me like, hey, hey. And from that. That instance, we started talking, and she already watching my videos. She already saw what I was doing. Yeah. And she goes, you know, I want to tell you the truth. You're not. You're not serving God. I said, what you mean, I'm not serving God? I believe in Jesus. I love God. She said, nah, you know who you serving? Straight. Blunt with it. No hair in her tongue. She said, you serving the devil.
B
Let's go.
A
She told me straight up.
B
Come on.
A
I said, nah, what are you talking about? You bugging? I told her straight up like that. I said, you bugging now. You crazy. She. She said, I used to be in that lifestyle, man.
B
She. She said, you're serving a devil.
A
Yeah. She said, but God showed me something with you. She said, God showed me you wearing all white like you are today. That's what she said. Like you are today wearing all white at a church, singing for the Lord. I said. I started laughing and I said, I appreciate that. Thank you. I'm like, I haven't been in church. Yeah, I'm doing music, but it's not glorifying God. Yeah, she had. She ended up going to. Going to me to one of my events, actually. That's how we met up. And, you know, everything happened. Then we started getting closer and closer. She started inviting me because she lived upstate, and I lived in Queens, like, in the borderline of Brooklyn. And I would drive, like, two, three hours over there to go visit her.
B
Wow.
A
We'll go to the movies. When we went to the movies, we met her best friend Dharma. Anointed woman. Anointed woman of God. And Dharma comes to me, and she goes, hi. How you doing? She shakes my hand. She walks away. She calls her right away. When she calls her right away, she says. She says, taisha, Taisha. I. I need to tell. I need to tell him, son. I need to tell Alex, and I need to tell Alex something. I can't hold it no more. She says. She says to me, I'm chosen. And God says that you're going to be serving him and that you're going to do a lot of big things. And I'm like, oh, okay. Thank you so much. Like, I'm just being, like, humble, you know, whatever. While we about to go see Annabelle in the movie right now. Oh, we're watching. We're about to go watch Annabelle. And she's telling us this. So her best friend says, test them, because there's a lot of evil spirits that was going on in our household since I was in there and she was seeing shadows. She was seeing a lot of demonic things, and she didn't know why. But her best friend was also into Santeria too. And she also was. She got. She got baptized in Puerto Rico. She said, it's the bees. Tell him to take it off. If he really loves you like you say, you think he does, tell him to take it off. So I'm driving three hours away. I'm like half an hour away. She calls me, she's like, hey, I gotta tell you something. I said, hey, what's up? She says, you know, if you want to come to my house, you got to take off those beads. I was pissed off. I was like, nah, I ain't taking off these beads that protect me because they put. So they put fear on you so much that they said they will protect you unless you fornicating. If you fornicate, you have to take it off. And you can't put it back on until you take a shower. That's the only way you take them off. Or if you're going to go to sleep, you take them off. But besides that, wherever I go, I have to keep them on. So she said, if you're gonna come into my house, you have to take them off. I already. It's already 30 minutes. I'm like 30 minutes away. And because it was a two or three hour drive, it was two, three hour drive from. From Queens, Brooklyn area to upstate New York, where she lived.
B
It was far.
A
And plus, you know, I had a mother, I had a sister, so I respect women more. And so I. So I took it off, I put it in and I left it in the car. While me not knowing I wasn't being obedient to her, I was being obedient to the Lord.
B
Come on, man.
A
God was like, I was testing you to see if you could do this. I took it off, give it like a next month. She asks me, hey, what do you think about coming with me to this church, this evangelist church? His name is Hector Perez. I'm never going to forget this man. He's from Puerto Rico. He was in the front store church. It was. But it was fire. I said, okay, I'll go, I'll come and support you. So I. Right before we went, we went to go eat in the Spanish restaurant. I started feeling heaviness in my leg. I felt heavy heaviness. And I felt like change is holding me down. And I didn't have dialysis that day. I had no dialysis right now. That was. That was during the time that I was still. I lost my kidney, I was still, you know, and I had heavy heaviness. And I told you. I told Taisha. I was like, hey, I don't think I'm gonna be able to go. She said, no, no, let's just go. Let's go. Let's go now. Actually, let's go to church. We go, we wait. Maybe you feel better. I said, okay, I'll go. Went to the church. I drove. I started feeling heaviness, more heavy in my legs. The enemy knew I was going to be set free before I even knew I was going to get set free. The enemy knew this.
B
Oh, my goodness.
A
So when that. That happened, she's like, maybe you need to take a walk. I said, because we got there a little early. We was there for, like, I think, 10, 15 minutes early. So she said, let's. Let's take a walk. So we started walking back and forth. We didn't go inside the church. We just kept going past it. And the more we kept going past it, I felt this heaviness, heaviness. So she's like, you know what? Let's just go in. I could not walk, to be honest with you. So she had to hold me.
B
It was like that.
A
It was that heavy. And I'm thinking, because I'm sick or something, Something was going on with me because I have symptoms, but I didn't do dialysis that day. I didn't know this was demonic.
B
Wow.
A
So we go in. As soon as I go in, the chains come off, and I feel the presence of God in that room. Remember, I'm a warlock, so I know the difference between anything that's demonic presence and the Holy Spirit presence. And I felt this, the glory of God. I never felt that before, but I knew it was the glory of God. It was just so peaceful. We went there. The worship was amazing. People were speaking in tongues and not demonic tongues. Holy Spirit filled tongues. The evangelist was preaching fire. It was in Spanish, but my wife was interpolating with me. Oh, but the Holy Spirit was speaking inside me anyway.
B
Yes.
A
So when the evangelist says, anybody want to come to the front? They can come to the front. I knew that. I knew a little bit of Spanish, but I knew. I knew it was the Holy Spirit. My wife didn't say anything to me. Her best friend was there. Her sisters were there. Everybody was there. They were interceding and praying for me. Throughout this whole time, I had no clue that this was going on. They were praying and interceding, fighting for Me in the spirit. When I walk into the altar, because I heard the Lord says, go to the front. There was a fire of the Holy Spirit hit each and every woman that was lined up that was speaking in tongues. They were going radical for Jesus Christ, thanking the Lord. I went into the front, I put my hands up, and I felt the presence. I start speaking in tongues.
B
Wow.
A
Holy Spirit, tongues. Not demonic, nothing like that. I start speaking in tongues right there. And then I told the Lord, I know that I was serving the devil. Lord, starting to this day forward, I'm going to serve you even harder than I ever served the devil himself. Even harder. The guy comes and he prays. I did the salvation prayer. I prayed. I gave myself to the Lord. Even though I still had my altar in my household, I still had that altar in the household. I gave myself to the Lord fully, with all my heart. I gave myself to the Lord. It still took me three months to get rid of that altar.
B
What was the resistance?
A
Fear. Because the first thing they say to you, if you leave this, if you leave this, you will die. They said, they saved me. If I leave this, you would die. They told me that personally. Me, because they saved me from the kidney disease.
B
Because you. You were convinced they had power to heal and the power to kill.
A
Yeah.
B
Well, it's interesting.
A
And I witnessed it. I seen it.
B
You said that when you walked in the church, you knew that was the presence of the Lord.
A
Yes.
B
Even without understanding that. Without even understanding it, Understanding anything. I keep hearing this time and time. But also, one thing you said you discovered was I knew that what I was doing was not God at that point. It's almost like man. When you truly encounter the Lord, one is his presence. It's unmistakable that it's him, but it shines a light that makes you realize that everything that's not this is of the devil.
A
Yeah.
B
And so it tells me that everybody that's still confused, like, they're. We're. We do a lot of preaching, and sometimes people are like, no, no, no, no. They're in deception. But when they encounter the Lord, it's unmistakable.
A
It's un.
B
You're going to know, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's. No, that's the devil, and this is the Lord. And so I pray that for everybody to have this. That type of experience because you were confused. You was like, no, what I'm doing is right. But when you met the real Jesus,
A
that was coming out of this lady. Yeah.
B
It was like, oh, no, no, no, no.
A
Exactly okay. It took me three months to get that altar. And I was getting attacked spiritually. Really? There was no deliverance. I, I wasn't getting. I didn't even know anything about deliverance. I thought I had to deal with this because of, because of my suffering. I was getting spiritually attacked within the witching hours. Between 12 to 5am in the morning, I will walk around my house like a zombie. Headaches, whispers in my. In my ears, telling me to kill myself. I will miss days after days of dialysis. Depressed, fear, anxiety, everything. She will call me, my girlfriend will call me, my wife will call me. I would not pick up the phone. She would be worried. Until one day I said, enough is enough. I took the anointing oil. I started throwing everything out. I was supposed to throw. I was supposed to throw them in the, in the ocean without rishas. Just bring it back to the ocean without chewing all that. Nah, I threw it up in garbage day right in front of the house. Nothing back to. Nope. I didn't want to give nothing back. And I had the high priestess Saint Las at all. His. His personal thing that I was supposed to give back to him. I threw that joint out.
B
Let's go.
A
I threw everything out.
B
Let's go.
A
I anointed the whole house. And while I was anointing the whole house, no, not kidding you. There was things banging all over the household. All over the household things were banging. My mom was mopping at the time and she was like, no, no, leave that. She was scared of those stuff. She hadn't, she didn't have no, she had no part. She didn't want no parts of that. She was scared of those stuff. She was even saying to leave them there. Oh my God. Cuz she was scared of it. She said, no, no, leave them there. Leave them there. They don't want to go. I said no. In the name of Jesus, I declare and I decree they gone. In the mighty name of Jesus. I started anointing my children. I started anointing my mom. I started anointing the whole household. And I got rid of them.
C
Them.
B
Let's go.
A
Got rid of them.
B
So this is a good time right now. Anybody who's listening to this part, go ahead and start gathering the stuff. Everything, Every. Every good fortune that you got from your. From the psychic, every item that you got, everything that you did, every date that you have written down, papers, prayers that you got from the ungodly. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid because. Because the truth about it is for You. They had, like, in the streets, they say they put a. What do they put on your head?
A
They put a hit list. Yeah, they put a hit.
B
Put a number on your head. I don't know what they call hit.
A
Yeah, they put a hit on you. Yeah.
B
So spiritually, they kind of, like, put a hit on you. So really, you really have to believe in Jesus, or you're probably at the place to say, look, I'm going to live for this one, and I'm going to die for this one.
A
That's right.
B
Like, you got to get to that point.
A
You got to get to a point that. When are you going to stop getting punched in the face? Keep punching in the face. Keep punching the face. Keep punching the face. And God is like, nah, you throw it back with the word, let's go. Like, I already died for this and I'm still here. Come on, man. And now I got the Lord on my side. Nah, I ain't going nowhere. I'm standing strong in that concrete of rocks, and I'm putting that full armor of God.
B
Yes.
C
Yes.
A
And I have my word, and I have my sword with me, and I'm fighting in the spirit, and I don't want to hear nothing. And every soul tie, every legal access that you have that the enemy has for you, you got to. You got to throw it out. Even jewelry that you got from your ex.
B
Come on,
A
get rid of it. Don't donate it. Get rid of it. Because you don't know what trans spirits are on that. Come on, get rid of it. Pictures, everything I had to get rid of. All my altars, everything. I even have pictures that I even threw out. My old music I threw out.
B
Come on, talk.
A
There's only one video of my. My. My worldly thing, and it's because I don't have access to it, but it would be gone. I threw everything out. I was just being obedient to the Lord.
B
You wasn't afraid for your OG warlock to run up on you and be like, yo, what's this about? Like, I'm about to take you out. You wasn't afraid of him?
A
Nah, I wasn't afraid at that time. He did confront me later on because I put a video out on Instagram talking about a botanica. Like one of those stores. Yes, Witchcraft, of course. And I was breaking it down and explaining to them, and it was actually Aun. It was a Aun Bhutanica. And I was breaking it down. He said. He was like. I said. He said, oh, I understand. You gave yourself to Christ but don't disrespect my. My orishas like that. Or this and this and that. I said, listen, I'm not going to expose you, but I'm going to expose those witches and those spirits that's inside, those demons that you have, and I'm going to continue exposing it. I've been. I've been getting through death threats, but they cannot do nothing to me. Like I said before, they can put me in the altar. They cannot do anything.
B
Wow.
A
Because even the devil has to have permission.
B
Oh, my gosh.
A
Even the devil has to have a permission. And I had an encounter with Satan himself in my dreams. He came to me after all that, I gave myself to Christ. He came to one of my dreams when I was married with my wife. And he told me to come back. He came as an angel in the light. Beautiful. I can't even explain how he looked. He looked like a beautiful person. And he came all nice as a gentleman, telling me he wants me back and that. And for some reason, I told him, no, I'm serving Jesus Christ. And as soon as I told him that, he got into this rage. And when he got into this rage, it was like a monster that wanted to come and attack me in my face. I screamed so loud out of my. Out of my dream that it was. It was like real loud that my wife woke up and asked me, like, if I was okay.
B
Wow.
A
Another thing that I want to explain. Everybody that did the ritual with me, once I gave myself to Christ, they died. My high priest, that was under me, he didn't. He didn't. He didn't really touch me. His mother died. His. His spiritual father, his high priest father. He died. There was one that I was real close to that he was about to die during pandemic. I prayed for him. I prayed for him. He got, you know, diabetes, a coma that he got blind. Yes, I prayed for him. God answered my prayer and healed him. And I told him that he needed to repent and gave himself to the Lord. He didn't do that recently because he became one of the highest, highest high priests in Spanish Harlem. And he has. And he has children in. In Cuba, like spiritual children in Cuba. Recently he got cancer. I prayed for him. God said, you better not. He said, God told me, you better not be praying for him. He told me straight up, he says, do not pray for him. And I had to be obedient. I can't pray for him. People got to understand when God says, do not pray for him, there's a Reason why. There's a reason why. And it hurts. It hurts me because he was close to me. He was like a father figure to me.
B
Whoa. He says some people, he give them up to a reprobate mind.
A
Reprobate mind. God is a good God, man. God gives us multiple chances, multiple chances. And we don't heed to his calling. Like it happened to me. God gave me multiple chances. But I had an encounter and this time I was, I was heed to it. I, I, I gave myself to Christ. And look what God has done for me. I got saved in 2018. 2017. Yeah, 2018. Now I'm all over the world preaching the gospel in 2021. Before I even, I was on dialysis in 2020. In 2021, I was blessed with a kidney by a donor, not knowing nobody else but a donor. God gave me a kidney. God gave me a kidney.
B
Come on, man.
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When I said God gave me a kidney, I wasn't a NYU didn't even want to give me a new kidney because they said I messed up my old kidney.
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Of course they would think that you were just irresponsible. You missed your appointments, you didn't do your dialysis when you were supposed to. Exactly. What young person goes in, gets a new kidney and their kidney gets jacked up again? It doesn't happen. They would think nobody gets another chance like that.
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I gave up. My wife was the one who encouraged me to go to, to a different hospital, Stony Brook Hospital. I went to Stony Brook Hospital. I went by faith because I already gave myself to the Lord. I went by faith. It took me about three years, three years to, to even go and apply for, for a new kidney. I applied for a new kidney and the doctor saw that I gave myself to God and I was sincere and they put me in a donor list. Not nobody out of the blue gave me a kidney. Nobody came out of nowhere and gave me a kidney. God gave me a kidney. Someone had to pass away so I can receive this kidney. A young man. Because they told me the age, a 24 year old. Oh my goodness.
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What's crazy is when that happened to you, you were 23. And God just like continued.
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I didn't even, I didn't even realize that.
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That's crazy.
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I didn't even realize that when it first happened.
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Yeah, you were 23. And God said, hey, I'm just starting
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you over with a 25 year old kidney. Wow. I didn't realize that. And when I got that kitty, I got that fire. The fire of the Lord. That's when I knew God was like, you're ready. Because before that I was asking, lord, lord, use me. I was in the dialysis. Like, I started off in a dialysis, and in 2019, at a center, God already prepped me to do dialysis at home before the pandemic. So he already knew the pandemic was happening. And I started doing. I started doing dialysis in my house, putting the needles in. My wife had to pull them out. I had in a machine. There was times that I would pass out, about to die. She had a rush in and come to the house, come to the room, put cold air on me. There was multiple times that I could have died. Multiple times. Multiple times. But during that time, I was in the Bible, reading, reading the scriptures, doing soap method. Soap methods like beginners. I was doing soap method, learning the scriptures, getting revelation after revelation. Every time I go, I had to go four times. Because when I was doing that at home, I would do it for four times, three hours a day in there. Every time I was in there, I was reading the Bible, listening to worship music, praising God. I didn't want anything. I wasn't even asking for a kidney. I wasn't even asking for a Kidney. But in 2021, I received the kidney that day. It was actually on my mom's birthday, the 24th of April, 24th, her birthday. I received the kidney. And when I got that kidney, like I said, I had the fire of God in me. There was a fire. I knew from there that I was going to keep on going. Then I received deliverance in July. Mass deliverance with Apostle Alexander Pagani, Isaiah Sabado. It was their first mass deliverance in a junior high school. I know nothing about this. My wife was the one who found out about. What year was this? This was in 2021, I think.
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I remember when they came together.
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Yeah, they got. I think they came together during the pandemic.
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Yes, during that season.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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And Apostle had his first mass deliverance, like a big one, because he was doing deliverance already. He's one of the head guys that does deliverance. But that was a big mass deliverance that we were the first ones in line. John Ramirez was there, Mike Cigarelli was there, Isaiah Salvador, who was there. I. I didn't know none of these people. There was a worshiper. He's a pastor now. Emmanuel pastor. Emmanuel man. Pastor E. He's the overseer from Amazing Church, New York City. He jumped out the the stage. He started delivering me of witchcraft, witchcraft, witchcraft. That's when I got my first deliverance. Because the thing about deliverance, there's a process, come on man, you know, not every time you're going to get delivered everything. There's a process of things that you need to get there. That's why it's important that deliverance and therapy comes hand in hand. Because you have to open up the things, like I said before that were blocking you, things that were hindering you, things that you didn't know that was causing all these things. Because we need to find out what's the root, what's the root of the reason why you went to went through the trauma. What's the root of the reason why. So the first thing was me was witchcraft. I got, they removed witchcraft off me. Then I received a one on one deliverance. They remove infirmities out of my life that when I threw up blood, came out of infirmities. I started throwing out blood, mind you. I had a new kidney transplant. So I was. And to this day I feel great by the grace of God. Then I started studying, studying deliverance. I had, I had revelation because of my past, of what I used to do with witchcraft. But then God was giving me deliverance. God was giving me like revelation of how to deliver people. God was showing me things that no one will see. I even learned prophetic deliverance. God was giving me prophetic deliverance. How to get to captivity. Because I had a dream one day with my wife and I was slain. Demons in captivities, in hell. And when I woke up, God says, go to Isaiah 42. Go to Isaiah. Sorry. And then I didn't know if he said 2442 or this like that. My wife found it for me. It was Isaiah 42, 6, 7. You'll be the gentile that will heal the sig from. Yeah, from captivity. God was speaking to me that I will go into captivity and bring anybody. Witches, warlocks, anybody. God gave me that anointing. I didn't, this didn't come from me. This came from God. Everything that happened to me came from God, from the Lord. Everything that happened to me comes from the Lord. I won't even be here to this day. I would just be a regular servant, be an usher or whatever you want me to do, Lord. He said, nah, I got, you got a purpose of what you're going to do. And I said, lord, I'm going to be obedient. Obedient for sacrifice any day. Wherever you want me to go, Lord, I'm going to go. I'm not Going to hesitate. I'm not. I'm not going to. I'm not going to give you no. No backlash. I'm not going to say no, no, I'm not going to do this. I'm going to be obedient to you, and I want to see what you want to do. Because what I said to you that day I was in the altar, that I said, God, I'm going to serve you more than I ever served the devil. I'm going to continue that even if I get sick to this day, in my day, in my deathbed, I will serve him in my deathbed. If I have to be on the phone preaching the word of the gospel, if there's somebody in the hospital that needs to get delivered, even if it's a nurse or a doctor that needs prayer, I'm going to do it. It's not about me. And people will look at me and they will be like, oh, you have pride. Oh, you dress like you from the streets and this and that. I dress like this because I like to get. I dress like this. But when I go to church, I dress. I wear a suit. I wear this, I wear that. But my fruit.
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Come on.
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My fruit.
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Come on.
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My hands is clean.
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Come on, man.
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I have clean hands.
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Come on, man.
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Yeah. Do I say reckless stuff? Yeah, but you ain't going to hear me cursing. Come on. God delivered me from that. God delivered me from that cursing. I don't listen to worldly music. I don't compromise God. I asked God. I asked God to do Christian music. He told me no at first, like I said, when I was in dialysis. He said, I need to get into my word. I got into my word. Now everything you hear when I do music is deliverance. And it's. And you're going to have to go into the Bible.
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Come on.
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This is not just, like, entertainment. I'm not entertaining no one. I'm here to give you the word and what God wants. I'm being obedient to God when I do events. We're going to have church. I'm not doing no music.
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It.
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I'm there. I'm going to pray on people. I'm going to. I'm. I'm going to give you my testimony. I'm going to. I'm going to set captives free. I'm going even do deliverance if they allow me to. Because you got to respect the church, whatever church you go to. Some. You know, some churches don't believe in deliverance.
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Yep, man, I'm. I'm convinced now. You know, God has really privileged me to do this podcast. Really. Because he's allowed me to open my eyes.
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Yeah.
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And now I realize, man, this season that God is bringing the church to is. He's actually calling the church out, and he's making a distinction between his true church and every false church that has existed. Like, and even true saints and false saints. And now I realize, man, those. Those people of God, that God is really using their voices in this day and age, they don't look like what we used to see and what we used to respect and what we used to reverence. Like, God really wants his people free, and he's calling people out. That has been the deepest forms of darkness. When I talk to people like you and even some of the other guests, that I have something that's just. That's consistent in you guys. It's this undeniable encounter that you've had with the Lord.
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Yeah.
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Because God has pulled you out of the deepest parts of darkness, and you are willing to give your life for him. It's not about. It's no longer about you. It's not about what you want. It's not about the fame. It's not. Y'. All. Like, I'm. I'm doing this for the Lord. And I'm like, I thank God that this podcast didn't turn into the marathon, the preachathon of the people who could just flip the word and, you know, they come with the things. And the thing, I thank God that he is using the people that the world would look at and say, that's who's carrying the Holy Spirit.
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Yeah.
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Somebody that went through that. Somebody used to do that.
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And I just.
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I'm just so honored. I have. I have a friend who he. When he ministers. He ministers to homeless. He always just looks for the homeless.
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Yeah.
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And he said when he sits in front of the homeless, he says the spirit of God in him begins to make him feel honored.
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Yeah.
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To sit in the presence of homeless people. And I'm not saying that the people that sit in front of me are homeless, but what I'm saying is when I sit in front of men of God like you, I'm like, you are the men of God that God has chosen for this season. You are the voices that God is calling to revive this next generation. And I'm just so honored. I feel honored. Like, wow. You know, people could be around pre presidents and celebrities like you. To me, this is what. Spiritually, what a celebrity feels like. Someone who God has chosen and Saved for this moment. Who has, who has surrendered to the Lord? Like, you might not look at yourself, yourself like that, but in the presence of God, like, because his hand is upon you, this is what sitting before someone that is worthy of honor looks like. Because it's not all, it's not you. It's the spirit of God that's inside of you, man.
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I love Jesus so much. And Jesus loves us so much. That's why I love the people so much. I love the people so much because Jesus loves us so much. People don't understand that I can give mercy and grace. The covenant that I have that I gave, I put a covenant in, in the kingdom of heaven is dangerous because when I put that covenant with the Lord, I told him, lord, I'm giving you all on, come on. And the Lord, the Lord said, you sure you want, you want this cup covenant? You want this cup, cuz that covenant you going, you're going to face some demons and you're going to face a lot of them. A lot of trials and tribulations. People going to look at you, crazy people going to. You're going to get a lot of tax. I've been attacked so many times and by the grace of God, it just brushes right off of me. Yeah, I have feelings, you know what I'm saying? To this day, people be like, oh, I don't believe in these two. Warlock. Nah, I ain't no warlock, man. I don't do this for no fame.
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Come on, man.
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I don't do this for, for no money. When I do events, I'm there for free. I'm coming out of my own pocket.
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Yeah.
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For my children's money. My wife, I'm working multiple jobs because I, this is not, I'm not doing it for me. I'm doing it for the Lord. I'm doing this for the Lord. And that. Nobody's not stopping me. Nobody's stopping me,
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brother, if you can. I don't know about you, man. I don't know about you.
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I'm crazy. That's what Apostle says about me. He said, yo, you a trip, bro.
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He liked that too.
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Yeah, yeah, man.
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And even now, I just want to highlight the fact that you and your wife, you know, your wife is, she's, she's awesome.
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She's on fire, man.
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She does, she does so much for the kingdom you guys are serving with Apostle Pagani. And there's, there's actually deliverance that, that you guys are doing at your church. You're also a part of the deliverance. Team what, what is happening?
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So we do Deliverance every last Sunday, every month. Every last month or Sunday, we do deliverance at 1:30. Our service is every Sunday at 1:30 at this moment in time. And we do our mass deliverance there. You know, God moves heavily heavy, heavy, heavy. So I encourage, we have people that come all over, not just only in the state of Atlanta. Wow. People fly over and we make sure we set them free.
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Wow.
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Because this is, this is not, this is not for entertainment.
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Yes.
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This is not for entertainment. Not at all. This is when we have Deliverance. It's very intimate.
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Yes.
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We have the cameras, but we blur their faces out.
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Yes. Yes.
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Because we don't want to embarrass nobody.
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Yes.
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When I do one on one Deliverance, I don't even post. Like, like if you see my page, all you're going to see is Christian music.
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Yeah.
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You wouldn't even when I, when I, when I minister. Because I'm not trying to glorify what, what God wants me to do when it comes to Deliverance. I'm not gonna shout out to everybody that does it. Like, you know, evangelists, how they, you know, they do, they do the camera do that? That's what, that's what God wants them to do. Yeah. I'm not like that.
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Okay.
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God doesn't want me to do that.
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Okay.
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God wants me to go into the deeps of soul. I go to the hood and everything and I'll do Deliverance. But you won't catch me filming it. Wow.
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Yeah.
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You will not catch me. I have DMs. So much people that, gays that will hit me up, they want to be set free. There's, there's, in my last testimony that I've done, there's gays, people that, that was in that lifestyle of Santeria. And I start ministering to them and they get set free and they give theirself to Christ and now they in church.
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Come on.
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But I don't talk about that. I'm talking to you about it now. But I don't talk about that. I don't put it on social media. I don't put a camera in their face. Oh, tell them that, that, that, you know, I, I, I said this or I helped, you know, because it has nothing to do with me. Nothing to do with me. When I do one on one Deliverance, it's very private and intimate.
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Yes.
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I bring my wife. She, she helps me, she intercedes. She also does Deliverance. She's powerful and we do it together. Two by two.
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Yes.
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Like the Bible says.
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Yes.
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And we go. We go for it. And we ain't going to stop.
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Come on, man.
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We want to set you free. We ain't going to stop unless we see that there's legal access. Once we see legal access. Okay, this is what you got to do.
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Yes.
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You got stuff in your house. Throw them out. There's stuff in your heart, in your four chambers of your heart. There's darts there, unforgiveness. Start purging it out. Start fasting. Oh, you're dealing with a lot of witchcraft. You don't know where it's coming from. All right, now do worship. Fasting from 8pm to right to the tip of 12o'. Clock. Within the witching hour. Right in the witching hour. Do worship and pray and intercede for whatever the Lord gives you. The days. Sometimes the Lord gives me days. Numbers for them to do it. They'll do it. They be obedient. They get set free. Why obedient over sacrifice?
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Come on, man.
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I'm not doing the deliverance. You're doing it because you're being obedient to God. Come on. You're being obedient to God. God wants to see faith without works is dead. He wants you to put that work.
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Come on.
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We can say whatever we want, but God wants to see you do it.
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Oh, my.
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He wants to see us do it, man.
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I always say deliverance is a love ministry. Well, first and foremost, yes. It is a love that stems from the Lord that wants to see his people free too. The ones that he equips to do deliverance. If you don't love people, you will never walk people through deliverance because it takes something from you. It takes time. It takes you to put your ear to the Lord. And then deliverance is not just the casting out of the deep demons. You have to speak wisdom into people's lives. You have to disciple people. Got to walk people through this thing, man. So if you don't love people, then. I don't believe in that ministry. Right, because it's just for show. I don't know what it's for, but this is. The Lord wants to see his people set free. And when, when you lay out your life to say, I want to serve in that type of ministry, then you're committing your life to inconvenience. And so I, I just.
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It's a dangerous ministry. Dangerous, brother, because when I die, I want to go to the kingdom of heaven and I want God to say, well done. Well done. My faithful servant. But I cast out demons. I did this, I did that. I still don't know who you are. I don't want to be that person.
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Come on.
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I don't want to go to hell. I already been to hell. In the spirit,
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if you can pray for those that are watching, man.
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Yes.
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Those that are at on the fence, those that still have legal access. Those that claim that they are Christian but still are living compromised life. That's what I hear from your life. I love that you said I have clean hands. Like not many people can say that. So we want just like you can sit here and stand and walk in obedience for what the Lord is calling you to do. The Lord wants to do this for everybody that's watching. It's not. You're not special. I'm not special. Your wife is not special. What we are is surrendered. I just want the people that watch, they're not just looking and saying, I want to hear another story. Forget that God is raising his people up. And I want this testimony to be transformation. It's going to bring salvation to some people. But for the church, for the people that believe, this should be like a spark of fire that sets you. That sets you on fire and says, okay, God, what do you want me to do? And I want to make a covenant with you. I want to. I want to go harder for you than I ever did for the world. I don't want to skip no days. I want to be faithful. I just want to. I want to say yes the way you say yes. So if you can pray for those that are watching now.
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Yes. Thank you. So everyone that's watching, look at my eyes.
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Thank you, Lord.
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Put your hands up. In the mighty name of Jesus. I declare and I decree. Any rituals from the past, Lord, Father God. In generation curses. I declare and I decree that we cut the cord right now. In the mighty name of Jesus. Lord, Father God. Every chain, Lord, Father God that is tied down, Lord, Father God. While they were doing blood rituals against your life right now, in the mighty name of Jesus. Jesus, Lord, Father God. Every altar in the mighty name of Jesus. Every altar that was placed upon you in your name. Your picture, Lord, Father God. In the mighty name of Jesus. You start purging it out right now. In the mighty name of Jesus. I see there's a ball right now that's starting to spur it up in your stomach right now. There's a pain. I declare and I decree that there's a fire that comes right now, Lord, Father God. And start setting them Free. In the mighty name of Jesus. I go to the pits of captivity right now, Lord Father God. The pits of captivity right now, Lord Father God. The age of nine years old, Lord Father God. The sister and the brother, Lord Father God. That got molested and raped, Lord Father God. That this spirit is in captivity, Lord Father God. I declare and I decree that you remove them out of that captivity. Because that gates is open, Lord Father God. That gates is open, Lord Father God. You open those keys right now, Lord Father God. You remove them, Lord Father God. They're not raped.
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No more.
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No more trauma in their lives. No more. But you are set free in the mighty name of Jesus, Lord Father God, I declare and I decree. All addiction, Lord Father God. All addiction. That they have any drugs, addiction, Lord Father God. Right now, Lord Father God. That you will start purging it out of them right now. In the mighty name of Jesus.
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Jesus.
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Yes, Lord. Right now, Lord Father God. All residue right now, Lord Father God. From the crowns of their heads to the soles of their feet. All residue must be purged out right now. Falling waters right now. From the crowns of the heads to the soles of the feet. Fallen waters and new wine skin oil that will drip upon them right now, Lord Father God. Start purging on them right now, Lord Jesus, Lord Father God.
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Right now.
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Unforgiveness. Lord Father God. In the four chambers of their heart right now, Lord Father God. We open one chamber. Lord Father God. We take out the swords out, Lord Father God. Of rejection. Lord Father God. Insecurities. Lord Father God. In the mighty name of Jesus. Right now, Lord Father God. Thank you, Daddy issues. Mother issues. Lord Father God. Right now, Lord Father God. That you're not good enough right now. We've taken everything out. All the swords out of those chambers right now, Lord Father God. Start purging it out, Lord Father God. Let them start renouncing unforgiveness. Start renouncing addiction. Lord Father God. Let them start renouncing trauma, Lord Father God. In the mighty name of Jesus. Right now, Lord Father God. Stop working in their lives, Lord.
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Thank you.
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The spirit of narcissist. Narcissistic behavior. Lord Father God. That comes, Lord Father God. From the Leviathan spirit. Lord Father God. Thank you. And the spirit of Saturday. Lord Father God. From the Haitian voodoo, Lord Father God. Lord. The spirit of death, Lord Father God. And the antichrist. Lord Father God. In the mighty name of Jesus. That all combine together, Lord Father God. I declare and I decree, Lord Father God. That you use a hook right now. You pull it out of them right now in the mighty name of Jesus. Lord Father God. Angels, you set them right now, Lord Father God. Yes, God. Angels. You go in right now, Lord Father God. And start removing it out right now. In the mighty name of Jesus. Everything that they have seen, hear, speak.
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Yes, God.
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Eaten. In the mighty name of Jesus. You start coming out right now, in the mighty name of Jesus. Every tear of deliverance is coming out. Every vomit of. Of of infirmities must come out right now. In the mighty name of Jesus. Let it be a shift, Lord Father God. Let it be a shift, Lord Father God.
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Amen.
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The same way I was shipped, Lord Father God. The same fire that you gave me, Lord Father God. Because my anointing, I can't keep it, Lord Father God. Because it's not my anointing, it's your anointing, Lord Father God. So I ask you, Lord Father God. That you will help them, Lord Father God. Learn how to do deliverance, Lord Father God. And educate them, Lord Father God. In the mighty name of Jesus, Lord Father God.
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Follow you, Jesus.
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Use the might of the Lord, Father God. We thank you, Lord Jesus. We glorify you, Lord Jesus. I know you're sweating right now. I know you're crying right now. But just know that you are set free for a purpose. And if you still have demons, that doesn't mean that you're going to hell. I rebuke that thought in the mighty name of Jesus. So I thank you for your life. And I cut every cord, every pastor, every pastor right now that gets attacked and they have portals right now in their church, Lord Father, I cut that cord right now from their belly button to that portal right now in the mighty name of Jesus, Lord Father God. Yes, Lord, Yes. Holy Spirit. I hear it. Every transferring spirits from false prophets that they lay the hand, dirty hands, all dirty hands, in the mighty name of Jesus. I ask you, you start coming out in the mighty name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus. All these filthy warlocks, pastors, prophets that say that they speaking the Lord, but they really doing black magic and they curse the people. I declare and I decree that you wash them right now in the name of Jesus. And that you pour your blood upon them right now in Jesus name. And there will not be no backlash. In Jesus name. Thank you, Lord. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Jesus.
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No retaliation.
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Amen. Thank you, Jesus.
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Thank you, Lord.
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Thank you Lord.
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I'm putting all the contact information for those that want to reach out to my brother, his wife, you guys that want to come in person. We're in Georgia, man. We're in Georgia. They have an amazing ministry. Last Sunday of every month, they're doing deliverance at 1:30pm we're going to put the link in the description, just even in the comments section. Go ahead and let. I mean, just in response to the prayer that went forth. If you felt the power of God, if something happened, we want to see those testimonies. Even if you want it private, you can email in. We want to know what God did in your life. You gave your life to Christ. Just email us or let us know in the comments what God did and how you're impacted by the prayer or even the testimony that came forth. Brother, thank you so much, man.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I really appreciate you. Now I will continue praying for you because God is doing so much.
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Yes.
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In your life, man. Thank you, man. And you exposing the enemy. And I want everybody to continue interceding and praying for our brother right here, please, Ezekiel, because his mantle, man, is. It's heavy, man. He needs. He needs protection, too. And I'm sure he has a covering. Yes, but we all. We all need prayer. Yes, we all need prayer.
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Yes.
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And his staff as well.
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Amen.
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Because these enemies, they like to attack.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. So bless you, bro.
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God bless you, man.
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Now, you might be asking, what is the gospel? The gospel is very simple. That you are a sinner and that
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you are on your way to hell
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without a shadow of a doubt. You were born in sin and the wrath of God abides on you. And you do not deserve to go there by way of your sin. But while you were still a sinner, God sent His son, Jesus, who loved
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you and died for you, as your
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substitutionary sacrifice, which means he died in
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your place so that you could live
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his life, which means he died for your sin. He was buried, and three days later, he resurrected from the dead. And if you would confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved.
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That's out here.
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No, no, I'm talking about the real Jesus of the Bible. The eternal Son of God.
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God that became a man.
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God manifested in the flesh that became a man. And in 33 years, he died on the cross, providing redemption, buying us back, translating us out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of his dear Son. Which means he redeemed us back to God. He reconciled you back to God by way of his death on the cross. And so you're probably saying how Can I be saved? Very simple. All you have to do is repent of your sin. I'm not talking about 360, talking about 180. You turn. You turn from your sin. You believe in the gospel exclusively, just Jesus. I'm not talking about Jesus and Mary. I'm not talking about Jesus and Buddha. I'm not talking about Jesus and some other centralized figure. And I'm not even talking about Jesus and your spiritual, spiritual father and destiny and all of that. No, no. There's only one way to heaven. Jesus said, I am the way, I am the truth, I am the life. And nobody comes up to the Father except through me. Jesus is exclusively the only way. You want to know why he's the only way? Because he's not only the only way, he is the door to enter in. And the only way you could get in is by way of repentance. You must repent and become born again. Why? Because only sons and daughters can be become citizens in the kingdom. Outsiders can't come in, but Jesus died on that cross and he made the way open for you. And if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. I'm not talking about all this other stuff to get saved. No, no, just believe. Believe in him, the efficacy of Christ's work on the cross as the substitute substitutionary sacrifice in exchange for your sin. Which means you give up your sin. You give it to him, he exchanges it and takes on your sin. Yes, but he gives you his righteousness. And then you are righteous and justified by faith in Jesus. And when you have justification because of Jesus, now you have peace with God. You have peace with God and watch this. And now he will no longer be just your God. He is now your heavenly Father through the person of his Son, Jesus. Why don't you pray that prayer right now? Just repeat after me. Say, lord, I believe that I am a sinner and that I deserve to go to hell. But God, you sent your son. Go ahead. Those of you that are watching, repeat what I'm saying. Say, God, you sent your son, Jesus Christ to die for my sin. He was. Was buried three days later, he resurrected from the dead. I now confess you, Lord Jesus, as my Lord, as my Savior, Come into my heart, come into my life and wash me from my sin. And now say this. Say, holy Spirit, I surrender my life to you. Make me born again. If you, in Jesus
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mighty name, my
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friend, if you said that prayer, whichever way you said that prayer, as long as you believe, Confess with your mouth. Jesus is Lord and that he died on the cross for you and three days later, he resurrected and you repented and believe that message. The Bible says, whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. You are saved, my friend. Here's what I want you to do. There's going to be an email that's going to be put on.
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On the video right here. And I want you to write.
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I want you to write this channel and tell them that you accepted Christ as your Savior. And brother Ezekiel and the administrative staff of this channel will help you find a local church in your area. They will point you in the right direction. But we need to hear from you. Say, man of God and that broadcast. I know you guys are talking about demons and devils, but I ended up getting saved and I ended up renouncing all other gods.
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Yeah.
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Which means you got to renounce all other gods and believe. Exclusively on the Son of God. And welcome to the family of God.
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What's going on, family? It's Ezekiel. One of my greatest burdens for this channel is after the video. You've been impacted. You just got saved. You just got delivered. Now what? We developed something called Freedom Guide. Freedom Guide is our digital directory that gives you access to every resource that we have available. We have our video directory, and that's super useful because we have hundreds of videos across this channel, thousands of hours of powerful conversations. But where do you go when you're looking for that specific thing you're struggling with? Sexual sin. We have videos for that. You just got out of a church cult. We have videos for that. Some of you are looking for books, courses from some of our past guests. We're making that available to you. And we. And we're also populating those lists weekly. Many people are seeking for in person prayer, deliverance. We're making that available to you with this link. So go ahead and click Freedom Guide link. It's right there in the description. And you'll have access to all of this for free. All you have to do is join us, subscribe to that list, and we'll be continuing to push out that information on a weekly basis while you have a total directory of. Of everything that we have to offer. And don't forget, anytime we have an event, anytime we're doing something special, anytime we're calling a fast, we want you to know about it. We'll be able to access you directly and keep you updated on the amazing things that we have to offer. Love you guys. Peace.
We Need to Talk Podcast | May 22, 2026
Host: Ezekiel (B), Kiyanna (C)
Guest: Minister Alex Cordero (A)
In this powerful episode, Ezekiel and Kiyanna interview Minister Alex Cordero, who shares his harrowing journey through generational witchcraft, voodoo, Santeria, and near death before experiencing deliverance through Jesus. The episode delves deeply into themes of spiritual bondage, occult deception, deliverance, generational trauma, and the redemptive power of faith and surrender. It is both a vivid testimony and a call for discernment, repentance, and true relationship with God.
Alex’s Early Exposure:
Alex shares that even before his birth, his family lineage on both sides was steeped in witchcraft and occultism. He experiences attempted deliverance as a baby by his paternal grandmother, who nearly drowned him trying to remove a "demon" (06:06).
Entry Into 21 Divisions/Dominican Voodoo:
As a young adult, Alex attends a "misa" (spiritual gathering), where detailed rituals—including music, dancing, prayers, and the use of special perfumes—open people up to demonic spirits (10:30–13:19, 25:06–25:41):
Occult in Music Culture:
The connection between African drums, hip-hop beats, prayer, and rituals is emphasized. Alex alleges famous artists have their tracks prayed over and attached to specific spirits (13:23–14:31).
Manifestations & Idolatry:
He describes first-hand the supernatural manifestations at rituals: cross-dressing, possession, and transformation of voices and personalities—all understood as demonic (17:10–18:44).
Deception & Catholic Symbolism:
Occult practices often incorporate Christian imagery and vocabulary, deepening confusion:
Consequences of Ritual Disobedience:
When Alex grows disobedient, practitioners retaliate spiritually, placing his photo on an altar. He soon faces catastrophic health consequences, losing his kidney at 23 despite having no health history, which he identifies as spiritual attack (35:01–39:49):
Psychological and Spiritual Bondage:
Alex discusses the ongoing torment from demonic spirits—anxiety, rage, fear, suicidal thoughts—and how these doors were opened through occult practices (25:42–27:51, 130:01–131:17):
Deliverance & Identity:
Ezekiel and Alex reflect on how Satan exploits wounds, identity issues, and rejection—using flattery and promises of power (20:54–22:24, 73:01–74:19):
Rising Through Occult Ranks:
After leaving 21 Divisions, Alex escalates into African and Cuban voodoo, involving more dangerous rituals, blood sacrifices, and "crowning" ceremonies in Cuba.
Legal Rights & Spiritual Consequences:
The repeated refrain is the concept of legal rights—what gives demonic spirits the authority to afflict, attack, and hold people captive; idolatrous objects in a household or unforgiveness in the heart can serve as such rights (36:10, 41:08, 83:10).
Why Rituals Eat the Sacrifice:
Emphasis on maintaining covenants with demons through ongoing rituals, "feeding the altar", animal sacrifices, and even eating those sacrifices (87:03–91:04):
God’s Intervention:
Multiple times, Alex almost dies. Spiritual warfare and near-death experiences stack up—yet it is through the persistent prayers of others (especially his daughter in child-like faith) and Christian nurses or friends that God pursues him.
Encounter with Real Christianity:
Alex describes attending a Holy Spirit-filled service, experiencing power he knew was not demonic. He is drawn to true surrender and prays for deliverance, though fear of retribution from the spirits still lingers:
Final Deliverance & Freedom:
After throwing out all occult items—against his mother’s fear—Alex finds victory, protection and empowerment:
From Bondage to Ministry:
Now set free, Alex is a bold deliverance minister, serving with his wife and exposing darkness.
Emphasis on Obedience, Repentance, and Relationship:
Deliverance is more than casting out spirits; it is about healing, discipleship, and walking in holiness.
Discernment in the Church:
Urges the necessity for wisdom and discernment—especially concerning intercessory teams in churches (51:14–53:47), as occultists often infiltrate:
A Call to Action: Throw Out the Objects, Cut the Ties:
Clear instruction for listeners to take practical steps—removing objects, renouncing ties—and advice for those feeling "too far gone":
This episode is a vivid and unfiltered account of the deep lies and dangers of occult practices—and how they interweave with cultural, religious, and personal trauma. Through Alex’s testimony, listeners are confronted with the reality of spiritual warfare but, more importantly, with the unmatched power of Jesus to deliver, restore, and redeem. Listeners are urged to examine their own lives for spiritual open doors and to choose true repentance and relationship with Christ, regardless of how far they've gone or what they have done.
Notable Contact/Action Points:
Tone: Raw, passionate, urgent, and filled with compassion for the lost and bound.
Language: Uncompromised, direct, casual yet spiritually serious—mirroring the gravity of the content and the lived experience of the guest.