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The blood of Jesus is a weapon that is so powerful. She was doing all this witchcraft. She said we were always trying to get children because they would sacrifice them and drink their blood.
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Whoa.
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She said, there were these Christians that lived next door to me. She said, I wanted to get their children so bad, but I couldn't touch them. Every day, those parents pled the blood of Jesus. When I even do deliverance, I say we have to stay school scriptural.
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Come on.
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Because the devil's so weird, and we don't get into weirdness. In the very beginning, when God spoke over the earth, it said that the spirit hovered over the earth. That word is epischiazo, meaning he birthed what God said. Luke 1:52. When the angel came to Mary, gave her the word of the Lord that she would conceive Emmanuel. And the Holy Spirit hovered the same word, Episcopal.
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Whoa.
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Because Mary received that word, Holy Spirit was able to birth Emmanuel. We speak what God says. The church has departed from the gifts of the spirit. Absolutely. We need the gifts back because we can't do this. It's all him. But we play with witchcraft in the church. The works of darkness are detestable to him. Reiki is detestable. Yoga is detestable to God. This bone here was dead. The surgeon here said, you have the worst case of a vascular neurosis there is. She said, bev, you need to be speaking God's word to that hip bone. He said, you will have whatsoever you say. Speak to the mountain. The Lord said, death is your mountain. Go home and cast death out of the leg.
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Come on.
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Come out of that hip bone. In the name of Jesus. We prayed, and his leg grew out right in front of our eyes. God literally brought that bone back to life, which was medically impossible. Demons do damage. So when you're casting the spirit out, sometimes you got to speak that healing word of God into that situation for restoration. We have had numerous people healed of sexually transmitted diseases. We laid hands on that baby. We rebuke the assignment of hell against this baby and prayed for God to do a miracle and give this baby arms and legs. That baby was born with two arms and two legs. Salvation's free, but deliverance could have cost you. That means I don't go back out and entertain what I came out of. The root of fibromyalgia is rejection. I command you to go right now. Literally, she started to manifest.
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Me speaking is actively trusting. I'm trusting out loud. We have turned into a beggarly people. God, please. God, please. God.
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Please start declari declaring who we are when you deal with me. I'm a force to be reckoned with.
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Come on.
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Because of who's in me, he would.
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And the Lord reveals himself to me.
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This is not a podcast. This is a deliverance ministry. God is going to deliver just as many, if not more, here than he does inside of church buildings.
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You got to keep giving yourself over to it.
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It's proving it to you over and over.
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And the weightiness of your anointing. The Lord says thousands will be delivered.
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I'm so privileged once again to be with someone that I think I have the ability to call Mama Bev. She is back. I had to make my way down here because, listen, we didn't get enough last time, and now we need to have you back. Welcome to the we need to talk podcast.
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Yeah. I'm so happy to be here and connect again. Awesome.
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Always. I just love some people don't know, like, when you came and you shared, that was a very small fragment of the wisdom of the insight that God has given you. I'm so grateful that we have a lot to share because there's a new book that you have that that I want to dive into because it's so powerful. Some of the testimonies that I've heard from you, I'm like, pastor Bev, why did you share that? And I was like, look, we're going to do it again. And I definitely need to hear some of these things and hear. Do we have biblical support for. For some of the things that you're teaching in this book? We're gonna get to the book and you guys are gonna be able to have access to it, but I just wanna kind of hear your thoughts on the idea of what is the name of the book?
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Okay, so the name of the book is you can change your world by speaking to it.
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Okay. So you can change your world by speaking to it. I'm gonna start with an objection.
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Okay.
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And then I'm gonna let you flow.
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All right.
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So coming up, I was always surrounded by Reformed theologians and the ideology that the prosperity gospel is teaching. Something this word of faith type movement that has people jumping and living in poverty while claiming riches, just like being able to just say whatever they want. You want a big house, you get it. And they take, you know, get. Everybody raise their hands for a thousand dollars. You give a thousand dollars and you're going to get your breakthrough. Jump for joy. Jump for joy. What's the difference between what you're saying
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and what they were Doing because it was manipulation. And it was used to, I believe, to get rich quick. But it would be the ones who are claiming that, teaching that, and then send me your offering, okay? They're the ones that got the rich quick. Okay? So. And I think a lot of people gave into those kind of ministries, those kind of things, because the Word does tell us he desires that we prosper, you know, but again, it's not just to laud up for ourselves. And I think because it was so twisted and took advantage of people, it really didn't teach the purpose that was truly behind it to change our lives, you know, and to help us overcome. Words are powerful. So powerful. And death and life are in the power of the tongue.
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That's right.
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So we can word curse ourselves. We can word curse our finances, our children, our health. We can do all of that, or we can speak life. So I share a whole lot in the book. In fact, the book, somebody just read it and they said, bev, I love the book because there's so much scripture in it.
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Come on.
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So everything I do because, well, I like to back everything up with scripture anyway. That's why when I even do deliverance, I say we have to stay scriptural because the devil's so weird. And so we don't get into weirdness. We have to stay scriptural with deliverance. Because when you stay scriptural, even when you are speaking the word in job 20, I forget what it is. 28, 23. I left my Bible down there, but it says, you shall decree and declare a thing, and it will be established unto you. So how do you make it work? Or how does it work for you? I believe it works because of the power of the tongue, the power of what God gave us. But a lot of people, what they do is they give up before they get the answer.
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Whoa.
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It's kind of like when Daniel prayed and 21 days later, he gets the answer. And it's kind of. Sometimes we. I always say this. God does not operate in magic. And people want to abracadabra, and he doesn't do it that way. So God spoke the Messiah from the beginning in chapter Genesis 3:15, where the Lord said he was going to send someone that would crush the head of Satan. That was way back in Genesis 3. When do we finally get Jesus?
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Come on.
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All through the Old Testament, God kept declaring and declaring, speaking forth that Messiah would come, and that he, when he came, he would destroy the head of the enemy. And that means his rule, his reign that he had gained. So I Guess that would be a good example. Sometimes, like I said, it's not going to be an abracadabra. But if we believe the Word and we believe what God's word said, and I'm coming into agreement with His Word, I'm going to be speaking His Word. I'm not going to be saying something opposite of His Word. I'm going to be coming into agreement and saying the same thing.
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I love that you said that. Sometimes we don't have enough patience to see God's word work. Just like Abraham, the Lord promised him something 25 years later. I mean, his wife Sarah was just like, maybe God was kind of tripping. Maybe this is what he meant. And so even if we don't say with our words, I don't believe God, I don't. Our actions, our plan Bs that we try to intervene with, get the flesh in there.
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Yeah.
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That is saying, God, I don't trust you. I don't believe you. And it's almost like if God says you're going to have a child, what we want is that baby in our hands. What we don't want is to be pregnant. And so that's. I love that. Like allowing God's word to work and trusting him in the process.
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It's like a seed.
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Come on.
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It's like a seed. You plant the seed, and there's a season of seed time and then harvest. So even a farmer knows that, that he's not gonna plant a seed, and the next day he's gonna have his harvest. Okay, when we do exactly like what you said when God told Abraham he'd have a son, and they took it into their own hands, gave up on God's word, and really just said, oh, here, you know, you can have Hagar. And what did they do? They got an ishmael. And so think of how many Ishmaels we birth versus the true answer.
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No, that's so good. That's. So I got another one for you. Jesus was telling. They were complaining, my daughter's dead. My daughter's dad. Jesus came in. He went with his. He went with the three. And when he got there, they began to mock him because he said, your daughter's not dead. She's asleep. What Jesus did was very interesting. He moved those people out of the room to perform the miracle. Almost as if their presence saying what he didn't say was going to be almost a homicide would have a homicidal effect on the miracle. So I always say this. Sometimes the Lord gets us out of the room. And he continues to operate. And we wonder, and we're saying God hasn't answered. He's saying, no, you're not in agreement with me. And because they weren't saying what he said and seeing what he saw, he got them out of the room.
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Yep. Got them out of the way. Got them out of the way.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah. So again, if we're going to do the Word, we have to agree with what God says and not change what we're saying. But people change it because we're so negative. We'll be saying one thing. We get all hyped up and we're saying it, saying it. And then the first time it doesn't go our way. We say the problem, we say what we see. And we know faith is not what we see. So we say the problem versus continuing with the answer. What is the answer? The Word of God. So we shift that. And when we do that, we allow another power to get into that situation, to defeat it. Because life and death is in the power of the tongue. So if I speak life, then I'm going to have the results, the power there to perform that. Who, by the way, is Holy Ghost Power because he's the birther. I don't know if I even talked about the Holy Spirit being the birther. He will birth what you speak. So let me go into that a little bit, and I'll go into in a little bit on how I learned to take the Word of God. And that was for my Son's healing. But in the very beginning, when God spoke over the earth because it was without form and void, it said that the Spirit hovered over the earth. That word is apischiazo, meaning he birthed what God said. The Godhead works together. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. So Father, God spoke, you know, and Jesus was there too. He probably spoke a lot of it into existence. But the Holy Spirit was the birther. And that's what that word epischiazo means. Then if you go to Luke 1:52, when the angel came to Mary and gave her the word of the Lord that she would conceive Emmanuel and the Holy Spirit hovered, same word, epischiazo. Because Mary received that word, Holy Spirit was able to birth Emmanuel.
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That's so good.
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And then if you go to first Peter one, I think it's around verse 21, 22, could be two Peter. I sometimes get first and seconds mixed up. But again, how do we come to Jesus? Only by the Holy Spirit drawing us, right?
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Yes.
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So it says in 1 Peter, chapter 1, verse 21:22, that it says, we are born again by the very sperma word of God. So when that word comes to us and we receive it, Holy Spirit births us into the kingdom. So again, if you take that farther, God's word is alive. It is active. It, you know, by the soul and spirit. It's the word Jesus. The Bible says that God has even exalted his word above his name.
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Yes.
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Okay, so we're supposed to be working with him.
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Come on.
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Not just jumping over here for my prosperity, my this, my that. But what are you going to download to me today that God you would want me to speak? Okay, so if it's always just about me, me, me, me, me.
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Come on, come on.
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And if you will give this seed to be, you know, so. No, it's about how do you change the situations in the world? How do you shift things in your family? And again, God doesn't want you poor. There's no poverty in heaven. So I agree with that portion of it. But to manipulate other people. So they. They weren't really even using the word of God with the word of faith messages. They were using manipulation. Two different things. Okay. But we. We. And we were guilty of it, too. We thought, okay, we're just gonna give them. We actually gave into some of those ministries, you know, quit after a while.
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Yes.
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You know, but anyway, that's. But we did.
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Wow.
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But irregardless, the word of God will produce in your life. That is why we were given the word. He said, I will create the fruit of your lips, and I will heal you. Well, what does it mean to be healed? Spirit, soul, body, physically, financially, the whole man being healed. And then I was telling you, too. So when I was doing a study to write my book, and it's in this little book, but when God made man, the original Torah said, when God made man, he made another speaking spirit. Isn't that awesome? We are speaking spirits. That's who we really are.
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Wow.
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Another speaking spirit. What is God? Apparently he is a speaking spirit because I said he made another speaking spirit. Didn't say he made, you know, like another God or another. This. He made another speaking spirit. Then he tells us when. Let's give man dominion and authority. And then we're told we have to bring it under subjection. How do you bring things under subjection? You gonna wrestle them? Are you gonna speak and give a command?
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Whoa.
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So, yeah, we're supposed to be speaking, but we speak truth. We speak what God says. We come into agreement with what he says. And, you know, just like, ask of me and I'll give you the heathen as your inheritance. So do we ask for souls? Do we declare souls? Do we decree I win soul souls? I do, I do. I declare I win souls all the time. I declare divine appointments for God to set me up, especially as much as I travel, give me appointments, God, when I'm out there. And I declare I win souls all the time.
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So let me ask you this. Someone would be watching this, and I, I don't know. You help me understand. I'm at my house, I'm watching this. Is there a balance or is there some type of effort that I need to put in? Because if I'm gonna say, hey, I'm gonna make, I'm a millionaire, I'm a millionaire, I'm a millionaire. And I'm not, like, applying myself in any way. I'm not using my gifts. I'm just, I'm speaking it because you said as long as I'm earnest, as long as I want it, I'm gonna get it. Everything I want, I'm gonna get.
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Okay, but that isn't what I said. I didn't say just because you're earnest and just because you want it, that you're going to get it come into alignment with the word of God. Okay, so I declare over my finances, and I'll tell you what I say over my finances. I say the word of God over my finances. And then I've sat back and I've watched God shift things financially for me. But am I a tither? Absolutely. Do I give absolutely. Beyond tithing, do I help people financially? Yes, I do. I do it as I'm led by the Spirit, though.
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Yes.
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I ask Holy Spirit or I feel, you know, an unction of the Holy Spirit to help someone that needs, really, honestly needs, needs help like that. So it's, it's. I think it's heart motive. And it's also, I believe, submission to God.
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Oh.
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So because when you're submitted to God, he's going to download, and it'll line up every single time. What God downloads to you should line up with the word of God. And so it's not laying up treasure for yourself. You know, just like in, in the Bible, it talks about the one man laid up treasure. And God said, you're going to be gone tomorrow. So, you know, even though where would you have me to put my money, God? What would you have me to do with all the blessings that I've been getting?
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Oh, my goodness.
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And so it's not just money. It's like I say. I say every day I heal the sick, I raise the dead, I cleanse the leper, I drive out demons. Father, I win souls. All of that I flow in the word of knowledge, gifts of healing, miracles. Why? Because we need. If he creates the fruit of our lips. We need the working of the Holy Spirit in our lives to touch a lost and dying world. So we should be more motivated, I believe, to be speaking what our mission and our call is that's good into existence so that I am expecting and creating, literally, opportunity. Holy Spirit will create it to meet, to fulfill the gifts of the spirit. You know the church has departed from the gifts of the spirit.
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Absolutely.
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We need the gifts back because we can't do this. It's all Him. All him.
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Now, that is something I've never thought of. You said we need the gifts of the spirit because we can't do this. Imagine thinking that we can save souls in our. With our Internet.
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Yeah, we can.
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With our strategy, with our marketing techniques, with our podcasts, with our preaching. You said we need the gifts because that's what the Holy Spirit is giving us to empower us to do the will of God.
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Totally. Tools. That's how the early church started, but we got too. I don't know what you'd call us. Professional, whatever it was. And so we don't want to mess with anything. And now the church is dead. But we play with witchcraft in the church, and that's okay. Those are supernatural gifts. Well, they're gifts, but they're demonic gifts, if you want to call them counterfeits. You know, if you just go back even to Egypt. When Moses went to Egypt, the enemy counterfeit. The magicians counterfeited what they were doing. So the devil will try to counterfeit the gifts of the spirit. But, you know, it's kind of like I was teaching on yoga last yesterday.
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Yes.
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And cupping and some of those things. And I was going from the fact of. That they're demonic.
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Yes.
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And that. And when I was reading some of the things, it says it'll bring you health, it'll help you spiritually. How does yoga being demonic help me spiritually? How does cupping or any of these other Reiki help me spiritually when they're counterfeit? You know, they're demonic, they bring torment. So we have to stay out of that. And it's like the Lord said, this was good. I forget the scripture. I read it. I don't think I have it in my bookcase or my case. There that I have, but how he detests that the works of darkness are detestable to him. So then that tells me Reiki is detestable. Yoga is detestable to God. Disney is detestable to God because it's full of witchcraft. It's nothing but witchcraft. But we think it's okay, as believers, to. And then we'll sit and say, well, you know, don't speak the word because somebody else got it wrong with how they were preaching it. Just because somebody got it wrong doesn't mean the word won't work in your life. And I've watched it work in my life and over and over. And then what I have learned, which I told you I learned with my son, and I can share that testimony, but what I learned, I have been able to help multitudes of people take the same thing I did. And literally, if they'll do it, see miracles and change and healing.
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So. So miracles are not exclusive to the miracle workers that have the gift of miracle working. Talk to me about your son, what happened in that situation. So.
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And I'll tell you a few other stories that go with that, please. He had. When he was about six years old, we don't know how it happened. He did jump off some bleachers at school, but he ended up popping the hip bone out of the socket. He came home from school, he said, mom, my leg hurts. So my husband and I just prayed for him and let him go. We thought. He seemed to get better, so we were good. Well, then six weeks later, he's still limping. And so I took him to a local doctor. We lived in a really little town. And the local doctor said, you need to take him to an orthopedic surgeon. So we had to go to an orthopedic surgeon. When we got there and they did X rays, the bone was like, here out of the socket, and it was white. And so if a bone is healthy with the blood supply, it's great. Okay. So the doctor said we had what they named it was Percy's disease, or you can call it a vascular neurosis. And meaning this bone here was dead because the blood supply was shut off, because it had disconnected. So they said they could do one of two things. They could tip him. Let me show you. Like this. And then push the bone back up. And then they body casted him from here on all the way down across and into the hip bone. So to see if. To see if for some reason, they could maybe hopefully get the blood supply to go back into the Leg. It never did, but the only other option would be to do surgery. But then he did go through multiple surgeries as he grew and got to change the bone size. So they recommended we body cast him. So that's what they did. And so like two and a half years later. So then I'm in the faith message, the word of faith, okay. So I didn't understand it, but I got into it, okay. And so I'm trying to believe for my son's healing. And I was. We'd have to go back every six weeks to two months for the doctors to check him. And one day I remember driving home because the report was not good, and I said to God, I said, lord, I just must not be one of these faith people because this ain't working, you know? And I like, I think there was maybe some people that were faith people or whatever, but I wasn't one of them.
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Right.
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So anyway, this went on, oh my goodness for almost like six years. And no, let me think here. I got to take that back three years. Okay, so two and a half years. The other one was. The other one. I got my numbers right. So two and a half years after they body casted him, he's still in a body cast. We're still going back and forth. And that was when we moved from. We lived in North Dakota at the time and moved to Rockford, Illinois. So he, the doctor took him out of the body cast, put him on crutches and said, make sure you get to another orthopedic surgeon as soon as you get to where you're moving. So I took him to another surgeon here. The surgeon here said, took new X rays and he said, you have the worst case of a vascular neurosis there is. He said, we number them 1, 2, 3 and 4. Your son has a 4. So all this time I'm still, even though I didn't think I was a faith person, still believing God that he would heal my son. My mom said, bev, accept the fact he's going to be a cripple. I said, no, mom, I won't accept that. So it's kind of like a mom, she gets in wars for her kids. But anyway, I said, no, I'm not going to accept that. Well, that day that doc doctor took what little bit of faith I felt I had because I didn't feel like I had much faith. And it was like he annihilated it. So I went home, said to my husband, I said, I don't know what we're going to Do. But I am not going back to that doctor because I knew my faith couldn't sustain what he was saying.
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Words.
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He spoke those words. And I was like. Everything in me felt totally defeated. And I knew I could not believe God for my son's healing and listen to that kind of a report, kind of like we sing. Whose report are you going to believe?
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I'm going to believe.
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I believe. So therefore I have spoken. That's what it says. That's what the word says. Corinthians 4:13. I have believed, therefore I have spoken. Which goes back to again, what do you believe? We're going to speak what we believe, don't we? Yes, for death. Our life. So I went home, and so we were actually attending a word of faith church at that time in our move. And we called them and said what the doctor said. And we said, would you just come over and please talk with us? So they came, and the pastor, the wife of the pastor, her name was Sister dude, and she said, bev, you need to be speaking God's word to that hip bone. And I thought that was crazy. I thought, that's the weirdest thing I've ever heard, to talk to a hip bone. But I thought, God, I've tried everything else. I'll do it. Because we had had healing evangelists pray for him. We had prayed for him. We had doctored for almost three years, Nothing. So I thought, okay, God, I will do it. I had said I wasn't going back to that doctor. So we went to their church that night, and I had determined, okay, I'll speak to the leg. I didn't know what to speak at that point because we were fairly new Christians. And so that night, one of the pastors was teaching on whoever will say to the mountain. All right, that's a deliverance scripture.
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Come on.
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Whoever will say to your problem, your demon be removed and be cast into the sea, and shall not dart dealt in his heart, but shall believe that. What? He says that. I'm sorry, you can say the faith message. The word of faith is bogus. This is what God says. He said, you will have whatsoever you say. Okay, so God ain't bogus. Ooh, is he? No. This is what God says. So if God says it, it's correct. All right, So I came home and. Well, so while he was preaching it, and he said, speak to the mountain. The Lord said, death is your mountain. Go home and cast death out of the lake.
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Come on.
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So we went home that night, put him in a chair. We commanded death him and our other two children and commanded death to come out of that hip bone in the name of Jesus. Then we pray because this leg had quit growing because it was body casted. And so it was this skinny little leg. And we prayed. And his leg grew out right in front of our eyes. And we just prayed it. I mean, we were being led by the Spirit because we didn't know anything about how to pray, none of it. So we prayed. And then from that point on, he and I. He was eight years old at that time. Every day, my son and I would speak the word of God to his hip bone. And I say, we did this every day. Every day, Every day, Every day, every day. We didn't move off the word. We said what God's word said. I believe, therefore I have spoken. All this courses in this little book on all the scriptures. But this is what we said. And I took four scriptures, and these are the four scriptures I give to people. These four scriptures have produced miracles in people's lives.
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Come on.
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But we'd say hip bone first. Peter 2:24. By Jesus stripes, you are healed. She said, talk to the hip bone. We talk to the hip bone. Hip bone. By his stripes, you're healed. Romans 8, 11. If the same spirit that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead dwells in you, he will also quicken and make alive your mortal body. We needed that bone made alive.
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Come on.
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We'd say, holy spirit, you quicken and you make alive Bryant Tucker's hip bone. Then we went to Matthew 8, 17. So I'd lay on the bed with him and we'd open up the Bible and we'd go through these scriptures together and we'd say, okay, Matthew 8. 17, himself, Jesus took all of our infirmities, all of our sicknesses. And we say, therefore, devil, we're not taking the vascular neurosis, person's disease no more because it was on the cross.
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Come on.
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And then the last one we did was Psalm 138. 8. That the Lord will perfect that which concerns you. So because the hip bone was dead, it was soft. But every day we said, lord, you will perfect Bryant's hip bone in the name of Jesus. So from that point on, because I didn't go back to the doctor, and I don't. I'm not against doctors, okay? I'm not against them. But I think you need to be choosing what doctor you listen to. Okay? Actually, I have a better doctor up there, but in here. But anyway, so I never went back to a doctor with him. We had been doctoring almost two and a half, almost three years, and they weren't helping us. So we just took the word and we ran with the word. I never took him back to the doctor in that for the next five years, he was a BMX bike racer. He did track, basketball when he went. He was third grade when we moved to Rockford, when he was in the eighth grade five years later, he called me at. He was playing soccer and he said, mom, my hip bone hurts. And it felt like it did when it was in the cast. So immediately fear wanted to knock on my door. But I knew by then we couldn't take back that diagnosis. So I called a different orthopedic surgeon that we knew and told him my son had Percy's disease because I won't go claim that thing again at all. And I said, and he hurt that hip bone. And he said, bring him in immediately. So I told him where the old X rays were. They called him in from this other doctor's office, took new X rays. The new orthopedic surgeon put up the new X rays or the old X rays and said, you definitely had a full fledged a vascular neurosis. And the bone was white. Put up the new X rays. And he said, but you can see you have a perfect healing. God literally brought that bone back to life, which was medically impossible. But I say, what's medically impossible, if we will believe what's medically impossible with man, is not medically impossible with God. And my son is still healed today. So the thing of it is, so that doctor. This is so cool, the orthopedic surgeon actually sent a older man to me one day to pray for his hip because he had the same thing. We've seen three people healed of the same thing my son had by commanding a spirit of death to come out. Which for me, I think if you do deliverance on a situation and then speak healing into it, the healing word of God, because demons destroy, demons do damage. So when you're casting the spirit out, sometimes you got to speak that healing word of God into that situation for restoration.
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Did everybody hear what she just said? Super important. Could you please repeat that?
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Okay. So when a demonic spirit is cast out, anytime there's demons, they have done damage to you. They have. Because he comes to steal, kill and destroy. Whether it's mentally, come on. Physically, yes. Spiritually, we're a three part being someplace. You've had damage done to you, so you cast out the demon. That don't mean you're Done. You need the healing word of God, and you need to begin to speak it into your life, into your body. And just like I said with my son, the first thing God told us, which we didn't even get this until God said to me. I mean, he just said, whoever will say to the mountain, he said, bev, the death is your mountain. And I'm like, duh. Why didn't we get that first? Because we knew we were dealing with death, which I think actually came out of that house we lived in because there was spirit of death. I think that was a result of that because that was within the year after the house burned and we moved out. But in that he said, cast the spirit of death out. We did it. Left immediately. But we continued with the word of God. And some people say, well, how long did you do the Word? I don't know. We just spoke it every day. We just obeyed, literally the counsel that this godly woman gave us when she said, bev, speak the word of God to that hip bone. But she said to do it. It's like, yes, ma', am, we did it. And the word of God does not go void. It quickened and it made alive his hip bone. By his stripes, he was healed. And I love Psalm 138. 8. He will perfect that which concerns you. So you cast out the demon. But the Word brings healing. The Word brings restoration. The Word brings provision. Everything we need really is in that word. So we can't throw the baby out with the bath water just because maybe some prosperity preachers have given what they call the Name it Claim it group, you know? Well, I do claim healing.
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Wow. Come on.
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But I do it according to the word of God.
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Yes, ma'.
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Am.
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I want to just mention, you talked about doctors. A lot of people are watching this. They got loved ones and things like that. There's a time I've told some people, a friend, I said, you have to. You're the man of the household. You're the husband, you're the father. You need to monitor and be in charge of the words that are spoken in that room. And I think. I don't know. I feel like sometimes doctors are trained to tell you the worst. Maybe so that I don't know. I mean, you got seven days to live. This is the worst thing that could happen to you. You're dying. All of these things we talked about. The Lord gets you out of the room so that he could operate in healing. So if the Lord wants to do healing, and at the same time, we're welcoming, accepting and falling in line in agreement with the stuff that are saying, then it's two ideas. And the Bible says in James, a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. Let him never believe that he shall receive anything.
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Yeah, yeah. So in that we have to settle our hearts and our mind on if God's word says it. I'm a speaking spirit.
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Come on.
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So that's what God made us to be. We're another speaking spirit. You don't hear God going back and forth. I am the Lord and I change, not Jesus Christ. The same yesterday, today, and forever. So you have to lock yourself literally into the word. This is what we did and this is what I still do. I will take and write out a scripture and keep it before my eyes, just like it says in Proverbs 4, 20, My Son. How does it say that? Don't let the word of God depart from your sight, but keep it in the midst of your heart for its life and health and healing to all your flesh. Why do you have to keep the word of God? Don't let it depart from your sight. Because if you look at something else straight up, if you look at you, absolutely, yeah, you're going to get off.
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Oh my God.
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So I have to keep the word in front of me. So that's what's coming out of my mouth. Life versus speaking. My problem or the problem, you know? And you know, another thing about death and life being in the power of the tongue. I can speak death and curse things too, and they have to die.
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Jesus did this in a fiction.
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He did it. He did it. We have had numerous people healed of sexually transmitted diseases. We've done deliverance because a sexually transmitted disease is a virus. Okay. And so viruses have intelligence.
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Whoa.
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So if it has an intelligence that tells me it's a being. So literally, we have cast that herpes out. What is the other one? HPV out. We even had one person healed of AIDS through deliverance. But in that, once we do that, then we tell the people, now you curse this thing every day you speak death to it. Because the Bible doesn't say life and death is in the power of the tongue. It says death and life is in the power of the tongue. So we can speak death into things that are demonic. And if you will stay consistent, you know, another thing that the Lord gave me when I was walking through that with my son's healing, God would give me scriptures and. Well, a couple of them. The one I didn't get, but. And that was, I am the God who calls those things which be not as though they were. I didn't quite understand that, but we would be calling that healing. And I've learned that now I am the God. Romans 4:17, who calls those things which be not. So what's not in your life that needs to be as though it were doesn't say, call the things that are as though they weren't. Call the things that be not as though they call those things that be not as though they were. And that's in also Isaiah, I think, one of the Scriptures, verse 9 and 10. I forget the chapter in the 40s, but he said, I created. I create the things from the beginning before I should go grab my Bible before the end of it.
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Amen.
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But it literally talks about he creates it before it exists even. But the other scripture that God gave me was Jeremiah 23, verse 28 and 29. Another word on another thing on him speaking. I could look these up. I got. This book is full of all that I'm sharing. Okay, but it says that if a prophet has my word, let him speak my word faithfully. That means consistently. For what has wheat in common with straw for nourishment? In other words, what do your words have in common with whatever? Because straw doesn't. You can't feed a cow straw and expect them to produce. You have to give them wheat. So what has wheat in common with straw for nourishment? And is my word, verse 29, not like a fire that will consume that which can't stand the test. So when you're speaking the word, it'll also consume what you don't want. And like a hammer, break in pieces the rock of most stubborn resistance. And a lot of people today, especially in the arena of witchcraft, maybe we can get into that a little bit today too. We have weapons against witchcraft. And I don't care if any witch has cursed you. Come on, you know you've got authority over what she has tried. Tis death and life. Or in the power of the tongue, you can command that curse to fall to the ground. You can raise up the standard of the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ against it. The blood of Jesus is so powerful, and it's a weapon the church very seldom uses anymore. But going back is my word, and I'm quoting amplified Bible, not like a hammer that breaks in pieces the rock of most stubborn resistance. We had a rock of stubborn resistance with that death, a vascular neurosis. And maybe that's why when that pastor's wife said, bev, speak the Word. We didn't quit. We just hit that day after day after day. So when people say, well, how long did you do it? I don't know. I don't know. But we did it. And that thing bowed its knee to us, to the authority of Jesus Christ on the inside of us. But you have to be persistent. Like the widow that came to the guy at night and said, you know, will I need bread? I got somebody coming to my house. And she kept bugging him and bugging him until finally he gave it to her because of her persistence and refusing to back down. And then the Bible says, will I find persistent faith? Whoa, when I come. That's faith that don't back down.
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Come on.
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And so that's, I think, where we miss it. That's why I say, write it out. Write it out. Whatever you need to believe God for, get it on a recipe card. Keep it before your eyes so that you can see it. And that'll help you lock into the truth of God's word and not the warfare that comes against you. Because warfare does come against us. It really does.
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So with your story about your son and him having that moment of pain in the midst of already declaring healing
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five years later, five years later, no evidence of it even being there in all that time, it jumped back in.
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I think that's what gets us. And even just in the persistence that you talked about, because I always say we have reality and then we have the truth of God's word. And I always say that God's word is greater than our reality. God's truth is greater than our reality. And I think some people don't understand that just because you see it. That's why it says, walk by faith, not by sight. We see it. The doctor said it. History says it won't get better. All medical diagnosis says there's no. It's impossible. Like, do we believe the truth of God's word, so to say? I'm going to walk and consistently speak something and speak God's truth. Let me ask you this. It seems like there's a thin line between being delusional and believing God. Like, at what point am I being delusional? You said my family is going to be healed. My family member is going to be healed. Like, at some point, I just got to be accepted, accept that this is not God's will for my family member to be healed.
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Well, we have to decide what is God's will according to the word of God. God's will is not sickness, not disease. Jesus took it said Matthew 4:17. He took all of our sicknesses, all of our diseases on the cross. So if it was on the cross, if, what did he go pay for it for? If it wasn't his will, what did he suffer? It says that his visage, his appearance in Isaiah 52 did not even resemble a man. Well, he was. So you can imagine if he just took our sin. He didn't just take your sin on the cross. He took your literal disease, all of it. So you take the disease of the earth, the sin of the earth, on one man, Jesus Christ, and no wonder he didn't look like a man. But he did all of that so we wouldn't have to in the garden. Was there sickness prior to sin? No, there was not. Pray, kingdom of God, let your will be done on this earth as it is in heaven. Is there sickness in heaven? No. No, there's not. I will create the fruit of your lips, and I will heal you. That's in. I think it's Isaiah 57, I will create the fruit of your lips. Meaning. What are you saying? Are you saying something that's going to give the Holy Spirit something to birth in your life, something to work in your life? Because the Holy Ghost isn't going to birth sickness and disease. Sickness and disease don't come from God. Jesus came that we might have life and have it more abundantly. And Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. And not everybody wins their battle. They don't. But that doesn't mean that the victory is not there for us. And man, you know, like, I had a student one time too. Like I say, I take this and. And I've taught young people are so easy to get healed compared to older people. We get too religious. But I had a student then I told you about the little girl that grew arms and legs too, which I'll tell you that one. But again, but. So I had a student that had this disease of some type of an allergy to milk. And the doctor said if she got any milk at all, she would die within seconds. And milk product is in a lot of stuff. It's actually in soda pop. Okay. So her mother, under a different name other than dairy products. So her mom, she would go. She went to Mayo Clinic. They took the daughter to Mayo Clinic. Her count for this was the highest Mayo Clinic has ever had, 17,500. So they went up there, and when she came back to school, she told me about it. She goes, Mrs. Tucker, you know, I've got this. And I can't. Because she couldn't go over tonight, stay overnight with friends because her mom was just scared to death she was gonna get something with malconet.
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Okay.
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We had a shot at the school for her, that if she did get any, they had said, give her the shot. But the shot could itself cause cardiac arrest.
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Wow.
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So anyway, I told her. I said, well, her name was Andrea. And I said, go ahead. And I said, let me pray for you, and then let's speak the word of God over your life. So we came and we prayed and commanded this thing to leave her, this allergy. And then I gave her the four scriptures that we used on my son. And so then she went from December to the spring, and she went back up to Mayo Clinic and her count had gone from 17,500 down to 1250. The doctors couldn't explain it. They called in three doctors, and nobody can explain, like, why she dropped like that in the count. But they assured her, andrea, you cannot be healed of this. So don't get your hopes up. You cannot be healed. So she came to me, I said, honey, just keep speaking God's word over this situation. So she went from May to the fall. It had gone from 1250 to 750. The next time she went up, it had dropped to 450. 250, by the way, is normal. And so she had to go back up again. They were making her go back every few months. They poured milk on her arm because they said even if gotten her pores, it would be dangerous for her. Then they had. Nothing happened. So then they had her drink at till she threw the milk up, sent her home, and they said, you know, we. They called in their three doctors again, ran more blood tests, and she came back to school. And about a month, six weeks, they called her and said, andrea, we cannot explain it. You can eat whatever you want. Just doing the word of God. Now, we did two things. Deliverance. I'm a deliverance minister. Deliverance. I love deliverance. Deliverance consistently changes your life if you'll stay on target. And when things come up that, you know, maybe the wrong attitude or wrong behavior in you or wrong characteristics, repent and command it out. Whatever is the spirit behind that. Don't. Don't just walk it out or just don't even say, oh, I'm sorry, Lord, which we probably are, but command that thing out of your life.
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Amen.
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And watch how God does it. Watch how you don't become a different person. So anyway, but that was. Yeah.
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And then you have a situation of someone growing arms and Legs. The reason why I'm asking you that is because there's a man who is in the faith and he doesn't have arms and legs. So are you telling. And he's.
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Oh, I know.
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Yeah, he has great testimony. I think he has an accent. I like that guy. So what would you say about someone like that?
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Okay, I would say someone like that has accepted his lot in life and that's what he's walking out is what he's accepted or what he's agreed with. When my mom said, bev, accept the fact he'll be a cripple, I said, no, I won't. Now, I didn't know how to get his healing, but I knew I would not accept accept it because I knew, even though I didn't know how, I had a God that healed I, from the time I was a little girl, and I wasn't even saved as a little girl, knew God was a healer. So, God, if you're a healer, I'm going to find out how you do this and I'm going to get it, you know? Well, he sent His Word and healed us. Did he not say that?
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Yes, he sent his world and healed
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us and healed us. So again, Jesus said, you have little faith. So how do you get faith? Well, you get faith by decreeing the Word. The faith comes from hearing the Word. There's no greater person to hear the Word than you yourself speaking it. So like I said, I guess I am a fighter when it comes to the things like that, that I'll fight for what I. And especially with my children. But in that this little girl, let me tell you the story about her. So I had a student that came to me and I think I might have sent you the pictures of this girl. I'll send them to you.
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Yeah, I don't think I got them. Yeah.
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Oh, I'll send them to you because I have em on my phone.
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Okay.
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So I had a student that came. She was in my class and she came to me one day and said, pastor Ben, my mom is pregnant. And she said, but the doctors did ultrasounds on the baby and they said the baby has no arms and no legs. So what? They told her, and they wanted her mom to abort the baby. So I said, okay. I said, well, tell your mom to come on in and let's. We're just going to pray for her. So she went out that night after school and. And instead of getting in the car, said, mom, Pastor, I was a teacher. I wasn't doing pastoral work. Then she Ms. Tucker wants you to come in. And so her testimony, mom wrote the testimony up in this book. Oh, so mom comes in thinking that Capricious in trouble or something and that's why I want to see her. And so we that day and she told us a story. We laid hands on her, myself and three of my little eighth grade girls, we laid hands on that baby. We rebuked the assignment of hell against this baby and prayed for God to do a miracle and give this baby arms and legs. Then I gave her my four scriptures and said speak that over your baby every day. So Capricia, she shares this in the story. She said my daughter Capricia came in the bathroom every morning. Are you doing what Mrs. Tucker told you to do? Are you speaking the word over the baby? So she reminded her mom every day that baby was born with two arms and two legs. Today she's I think 27 years old and is a got a couple degrees in psychology and does ministry in church.
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Listen, how is it possible?
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How just believing Jesus, just taking what his word says and refusing to be denied. The woman with the issue of blood refused to be denied. If I can just get a hold
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of him, Come on.
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I will be healed. So we give up. You know there's another scripture God gave me with my son and that was Hebrews 10:35. Cast not away your confidence which has great recompense of reward. See, we throw our confidence. See, we need to get back to the God of the Bible. We need to get back to the God that we were believing many people, especially when there was such a move of God. He's not changed. We're the ones that have changed. Jesus is still the healer. He's still the deliverer. I encouraged my people last night when I was teaching my class. How many of us have really looked at our faith lately and just seeing what we need to do to make sure we're walking by faith. Examine yourself to see if you are in the faith. We just kind of wash it off. And why is that? Because we've become lukewarm. We've had mixture in our life.
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Come on.
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We just allow ourselves to be entertained by anything. And seriously, the church has got to get back to being single eyed just about about the Lord, especially with the day and the hour we live in. We need to get back to what the Bible says.
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Why is it problematic for the church to not get a hold of this now, especially in this season?
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I think because the church is again, like I just said, lukewarm. I think the church Number one, we have to repent. We have to come out from among them and be separate. We have allowed ourselves to. You know, I know people who were Christians doing same sex marriages. Huh? Yes. I have two students that have gone into now same sex marriage. Where do we that Just because a president made that legal.
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Right, Right.
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God did it. God did not make legal. See. So we go by the world system. Who is the God of the world system? The Little G Corinthians 4. He has blinded the minds.
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Minds of this world. Come on.
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Yep. And so we allow that because how did we let the world blind us? Because we're listening to the wrong things. We're participating in the wrong things and they've affected our walk with God. That's dangerous. It really, really is. Especially if Jesus comes back. I want to be out of those 10 virgins, the five that have the oil in my lamp, not the five that don't and got left behind. See. I believe he's coming soon. I really do.
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Oh yeah.
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I really do. All you gotta do is look at this is true too. But we see all these signs going on. But I have never seen the occult speed up like it is.
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Come on.
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The devil knows he has a small amount of time too.
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Oh my gosh. And he's being open with the things that he's doing.
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Latent do you know, I think I told you this before but the lady I ministered to in out east, she was from Africa that she was Talking about how 2019. 2020. How they were sending witches and celebrities over to Africa to learn how to do ancestral witchcraft and ancestral magic because they had. They were coming back here to the States because they said we have a window of time to shift the dispensation we're in now into the next dispensation. What is the next dispensation? It's the Antichrist time, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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They said we only have a window. See, they know. They know. Seemingly. It's not that we don't know. But the church is asleep.
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Yes.
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How did we get asleep? We got put under a spell. How did we get put under a spell? Well, we were wide open doors too because we participate in this every time you participate in anything. Witchcraft. According to Ezekiel 13, there are soul hunters and they're all hunting for your soul. So they're going to throw a little bit of magic at you. They're going to throw a little bit of witchcraft at you and buy into that. It's like they take a piece of your soul. So they've already got an access point into your life to put you under a spell.
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I reject that. In the mighty name of Jesus.
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Yes. And, you know, it's the same way like with fraternities and sororities. You cross over, you do their vows and their oaths. You just let your soul be trapped. So a portion of your soul has already been broken, and that fraternity, that sorority, is holding it. So how do you take it back? Number one, you repent. And you can literally step back out of that glory to God and say, I am taking my soul back. Come on, let it go, devil, in the name of Jesus, and ask the Lord to reintegrate. But that kind of stuff happens. And then there's portals, doorways that the enemy then can begin to access your life. And that's multitudes of people who call themselves Christians, and they live such defeated lives. It's because our focus is gotten off of our God, off of Jesus.
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Christians living defeated lives. You're talking about healing, but we're also talking about the mind. We're also talking about our marriages. We're also talking about our emotions, all of these things. Let me ask you this. I know. I hear what you're saying. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you, Pastor Bev. But is it outside of speaking? What are we supposed to be doing?
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Okay, so you definitely line up your mouth with what God's word says?
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Yes.
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Okay. But then you also line your life up, too. Okay, so if I'm going to speak the word, I really shouldn't be living and sin and expect it to work. Okay, so I have to, again, line my life up with the word of God. Okay. Not just speak it, but line my life up. I need to come out of different avenues of sin, which there's tons of them, from sexual to dabbling in witchcraft, to drugs, alcohol, rebellion. So what do you do? I see. I don't just repent, but I work to align my life with the Lord. So you can. You know, there's a scripture that says. Actually, it's on my phone about. Otha said this. I loved it. He said, lord, show me what I'm doing that I should not be doing. And then he says, show me what I should be doing that I'm not doing. So, God, if I'm doing something and you don't want me to, God, please show that to me, because I want to be lined up with you. See, there's a cost. This is like this one guy said, salvation's free, but deliverance gonna cost you.
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Yes.
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Well, if that means I don't go back out and enter, obtain what I came out of.
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Yes, you know, oh, Jesus.
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So in that also there was this one, two scriptures that said the king had literally sought after the Lord with his whole heart, and the Lord prospered him. And then it said he served him with and worshiped the Lord alone. And God made him successful. So there's two keys. Follow the Lord with all your heart.
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That's one.
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And he'll prosper you and then obey him and worship him with all your heart, and he'll cause you to be successful. So the more, I mean, I do 100%, I can't be speaking death. I have to speak alive because God tells me to do that.
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That's right.
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But I also need to seek the Lord with all my heart. I tell people, the Lord told me this one time, he said, bev, light in, darkness out. So if you're having a problem with darkness, and a lot of people are, and they feel so defeated, but start putting God in your life. It'll drive back the deep darkness that's been in there. So the more I listen to the word of God, every night when I go to bed, I put it on my phone and I listen to that all night. I pray in the spirit a lot, but the more I put God in, there's not a whole lot of room for darkness anymore.
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Come on.
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And so then my life is positioned to be successful and be prosperous. And again, what is success and what is prosperity? It's not all money. It's me laying hands on somebody that has cancer and they get healed of that cancer. I'm speaking with a woman next week at a conference. And I prayed with her two and a half years ago. I think it's going to be three years in November. Stage four lung cancer. Her liver was completely had. What do you call those things on the liver?
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Ulcers.
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Not the ulcers, but similar to that. And so her body, it was. She was second time around breast cancer. And that's why she had master ties.
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Okay.
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And so the church I was speaking at, she said to me, she said, bev, I got this pastor, and I want you to pray with her. So we proceeded to do deliverance. And she went back to the doctor, I think a week after they could find no more cancer in her lungs. Then they took and three weeks later did ultrasounds on the liver. And the liver was 100% clean. So they're not fighting cancer in this woman. So the doctor says, well, we need to check Your spine, because it's probably gone there. Well, if it's gone there, it ain't gonna leave the lungs and it's not gonna leave the liver. It's going to just more of it move over. But they did a. So she called me. She said, do you think I should let them do, you know, a spinal tap or whatever they did for the liver? And I said, that's up to you. I'm not going to tell you what to do because I try to be careful and not tell people what to do, especially with doctors. You ask God. Well, she ended up going back in. They couldn't find any cancer in her spine. And that was two and a half would be three years ago in November. She's completely healed. She has her testimony on YouTube. Her name is Shelley Burton.
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Wow.
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Healed through deliverance, casting out that spirit. To me, that's a successful, prosperous life.
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Yes.
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When you can pray for somebody and see, I am believing, God, that we're going to have answers for these children with autism.
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Amen.
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I hate that.
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Amen.
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And that's another whole thing there, because I don't think all of them have autism. I think they just need deliverance.
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Let me ask you this, because you're making a connection between physical ailments and spirituality. A lot of women this day and age are developing these fibroids. I know it's not my position to bring up women's health in that way, but I talked to someone who said, hey, this is something to look out for. Because a lot of times these things have spiritual implications and in different ways that the body's being affected from cancer. I've seen that there are. Sometimes they connect it to bitterness and unforgiveness.
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A lot of things, bitterness, rejection. They can also come out of a line of witchcraft and stuff like that, curses. Because when. Because of covenant, when a person leaves different things like witchcraft, because those are covenants and freemasonry, another covenant luminati, then that curse falls into the generations that. Because if you like, I say, if you study covenants, and even back in the day, they would come after your offspring up to seven generations, one of them up to 14 generations. Okay. But we just recently prayed for a woman who had fibromyalgia. And that was like pain. She even had pain in her feet. I've not heard of anybody with fibromyalgia with pain in the feet, but she had pain. Her body wracked with pain. So that's what I was telling you. I was doing the training. So I get Done with the training. And she said, well, what would you do about if a person had the fibromyalgia? And so I'm just instructing at that point, I'm up on the stage and I said, well, this is what I would do. And I said, fibromyalgia, because I have a book. When I first got into deliverance, God was giving me roots of disease that were behind the sickness, the spirits that were there. And then I found a book on it. So then I didn't have to always try to figure that out. But anyway, this guy had said that the root of fibromyalgia is rejection. And not a proper covering of a father over a daughter.
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Oh, no.
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So I said, this is what I would do. So, number one, she has to forgive her dad, but she also has to come against a spirit of rejection. I said, then I would say, fibromyalgia, I command you, come on, get out of my body. Come on, get out. And then I said I would say to the pain, pain, because pain is a spirit. I command you to go right now. Pain. You get out in the name of Jesus. So this is what I'm instructing her. And while I'm telling her that, literally, she started to manifest just an instruction. So we. I went down off the stage and I started praying with her, and some of the other people came, and we all were praying together and commanding that fibromyalgia to come out, the pain to come out of her body. And then I said, tell me what's going on with you. She goes, well, the pain's left up here, but it's still in my feet. It's like, oh, no, it's going to go all the way out. So we hit that again. And pain, you will leave her now. You come out in the name of Jesus. Literally within 10 minutes, she was completely pain free. She is crying because she said, it's been years and years and years since I have even had a moment without pain.
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No, that's crazy.
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Yeah, but see, spiritual roots, and then those spiritual roots come in. So we need to deal with not just always the spiritual root, but the fruit that it produced, too. So she had the root, which was the rejection and improper covering, but that fruit also had to be thrown off, too, and she got completely free.
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I like that. While you were doing the deliverance, doing the process, she was manifesting all of that. But then later, she didn't feel pain somewhere, but she felt it somewhere else. It reminds me of when Jesus was healing the blind man. He got him to see. And he said, what do you see? I see menace trees.
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Yes.
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So he was seeing blurry. It was not complete. How do we keep the faith? How do we turn up the fire and prayer?
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So I have a story about that one.
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Okay. Please.
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I have so many stories.
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I'm glad I reminded you all the time.
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One thing I do want to say, because it's all Jesus.
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Amen.
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It's not me.
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Amen.
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But when we will make ourselves available to the Lord, he will use us.
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Absolutely.
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So I had another student that had scoliosis. I've seen probably three major scoliosis cases healed. And I'll tell you about two of them that were really powerful. But so this girl has like a 30, 40 curvature. That's a really bad one. So they were going to put a rod in her back, which they do that a lot with scoliosis. And so she was going to be going to the doctor the next day. So I would pray. I would pray in my classes all the time. I was in a Christian school. So we were praying and I had her put her arms out like this. And the one arm was like. Definitely came out. It wasn't shorter, but the back was crooked, so it made it. And then we. Her legs. And we commanded the scoliosis to go. Sometimes they have kyphosis, too, and it's in the thoracic. The rib cage.
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Okay.
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Commanded it out of her and prayed over her. She had to go to the doctor the next day, and the doctor got mad at her because she. It had gone from a 30, 40 to a complete alignment in the top two. Just a little bit left in the lower back, but it was still maybe 10, 15% in the lower back. Maybe it was 20. I forget. And I said, lord, I do. And he brought the same scripture you just said. He brought that up to me when he prayed with the man that was blind. And he said, tell me what you see. And he said, I see men as trees. And so the Lord said, pray again. I prayed again with her here. All my lace gray trees students. These kids were like powerhouses. We prayed for her, and she was completely made whole then. Never had to have the surgery. And when she came back into school the next year, she was taller than I was. Isn't that awesome? Then I had a lady who had scoliosis, and we prayed with her, I think on a Saturday night. And then the next day she came. I was out traveling to my hotel room for more prayer. And I was walking her through deliverance. And we prayed into her back again. And literally, while I'm praying, all of a sudden her body begins to shift and move like this, back and forth. So I just stepped back, took my hands off of her, thought, God, you're doing this. I'm not going to touch it. And she goes like this. And her whole from the waist up starts. Her body's just moving. And it was like God was just aligning her. She was completely healed. And all the pain, too. They have a lot of pain in their rib cage and stuff like that because the back's twisted. So it causes their ribs to switch and is full of pain. And all of that left her too. A lot of miracles. So I really believe that if you will cast it out, speak his word and stay persistent.
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Yes, persistently.
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We can push through a lot of things that we're not doing. But again, it's the church coming out from the world. We think, see, we get so busy out there and so involved out there. The worst thing is if we dabble at all with any kind of occult, but if we would get our focus back on the healer, the deliverer, who's still the miracle worker, it's time to come back church.
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I got chills when you said that part. Because in as much as we have been instructed to use our mouths to speak, we're speaking his Word. The power is in his Word. John, chapter one. It tells us. And the Word was made flesh. We're talking about the Word was God,
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it's life, we're releasing him situation.
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It is Jesus himself.
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Yes, yes.
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Oh, man, that changes everything. I love that. So it's not depending on my power, my skill, my ability, my knowledge, my.
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You know, some people, that's true. Not even your, well, knowledge in the fact that you don't have to know everything. There it is to get results.
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That's it. That's it. So I'm me speak. Me speaking is actively trusting. I'm trusting out loud.
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Yeah. Yep, 100%. And he will create the fruit of your lips. And you're a speaking spirit. Why did God make you a speaking spirit without purpose? He wanted us to walk in dominion. You can't walk in dominion and authority with negative words coming out of your mouth.
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Have mercy, God. Have mercy.
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See, we have to command. And how do you command? That's why you're a speaking spirit. So if you know, the Bible says too, that in the last days they will know their God and they will do great things, great feats. Okay, we're going to get this. At least a group of People are going to get this and cause a shift because, yes, I do believe Jesus is coming back soon. I believe that we're ready to. The one world order says they're ready, they're ready to go. They're working to get it all shifted over. But before that happens, we're going to have revival because we're also promised the latter. Rain.
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Wow.
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And multitudes are coming in. People are going to be set free. Well, who's going to be doing the work of the kingdom? We are. And again, that's why we need to be declaring who we are in Christ. You know, the word being a new creature in Christ is the word Kainos. And it means literally, there's never been anything like us on this earth ever. And we're not an upgrade, we're a brand new creature. So even with cultures and division, we got to get the division out of the church.
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Come on.
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Because it's our unity that remember in Babel, there was nothing that would be impossible to them sinners because of their unity. Well, nothing will be impossible to the church. And we have to bring unity to our mouth. We have to bring unity to our relationship.
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Whoa, I never looked at it like that. You said we have to bring unity to our mouth. Unity is bringing, making one, right?
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Yeah.
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And so if God is saying something and I'm not saying it, I'm not in unity or harmony with God. And so. Oh my goodness, isn't that interesting? And he said that they be in me as I in you. So if we are saying, if we make the point, practice of speaking, walking in his truth and his word, that is bringing unity back to our mouth. Even as a church, we need to be saying the same things, right?
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We do. And Jesus said, I only do or I only say what I see my Father do what I see my Father say. So we got the Holy Ghost on the inside of us. Okay, so about maybe six years ago, I started saying, just driving down the road one day, I had this just unction. You know, sometimes you have the Holy Spirit just tell you he speaks through you. And I began to say, the Lord is my shepherd, I do not lack, I do not want, I don't have shortage, I don't have insufficiency, I don't have debt, I don't have need. Because God, you supply all my needs according to your riches and glory by Christ Jesus. I say this every day. And because God, you caused me to lie down in the good places, green pastures. What are those? Those are places of provision, open doors, opportunity, blessing, Father, you cause, and I say this for my children too. You cause us to lie down in the good places, and you open up doors for us. And I declare certain open doors I want. And then I go. I also speak wealth over my life. I say, you caused me to lie down in wealthy places, prosperous places. And then I go, God, you. I heal the sick, I raise the dead, I cleanse the leper, I drive out demons, I win souls. I flow in the word of knowledge. That's the one gift I really desire, the word of knowledge. I flow in miracles and healings. God, in the name of Jesus, while I need to say that every day, if I want that activated in my life, what is the purpose of that being activated in my life? To glorify God and to help his people. God wants his people victorious. He didn't make us to be failures, he made us to be successful. And you know, it's awesome when someone has a need and God says, I want you to meet the need. And you're able to do that.
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Oh, my goodness. So our disobedience in this area is shortchanging the body, shortchanging the people of God. I always say, like, we have turned into a beggarly people. Our prayer life is all begging. It's God, please, God, please, God, please. But what you're kind of teaching is God has already given us something that we need to activate that's a little bit different than, I hope one day there's healing, I hope I'm protected. Instead of, here's the scriptures that he gives us. Declare his truth, right, his truth, not
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what we decide to do. I have this one thing here where God rules by the power of the spoken word. God rules the earth. But you know, God has put authority in mankind, but God rules by the spoken word. And then the words we speak transcend the natural realm and have a direct influence on the unseen realm, the spiritual war. Which is another reason why we have to speak God's word. Because we are affecting the spirit realm, not just the physical. It'll manifest in the physical, but first it manifests in the spirit realm. And we create by what we feel or by what we think, what we feel and what we say. They say too, that your thoughts are more dangerous than your words because out of the heart, the mouth speaks. We speak our thoughts, don't we? And do you know when the Bible tells you to bring every thought captive to the obedience of Christ? Come on, what we're speaking? Thoughts that are not godly thoughts, not creative thoughts, but it goes on to Ephesians 5:1. We are to be imitators of God and follow his example as well as well. Beloved children imitate their father. The authority of creation to create was in God's mouth. And then. Let me just read this to you. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. It was without form. And the spirit of God moved on the earth. Then God said, let there be light.
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Yes.
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Genesis 13 and 4. Genesis 1 6. Then God said, Genesis 1 9. And then God said Genesis 1 11. And God said, Genesis 1 14. And God said, and Genesis 1 20. And God said, Genesis 1 24. And God said, and Genesis One 24. And it was so. And then again, we are made to be imitators of our Father in heaven. And he said, and he said, and he said. And then he created us in the very beginning to be speaking spirits. So we have a purpose. And it's to align with the word of God. It's to give commands with the word of God. It's to seek and say, you know, when I. Because this is something that my heart. With the torment people go through, and I get so many like you do. People who are being tormented by witchcraft or do you know. I know no witch that is not tormented. They all are. They're tormented. The gods. Those demons that they're serving torment them so. And I believe there's going to be witches coming out of the darkness.
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Come on.
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They need deliverance. We're here to help them.
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Yes.
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So we need to start seeing who we are. We need to start declaring who we are. When you deal with me, I'm a force to be reckoned with.
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Come on.
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Because of who's in me.
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Let's go. Yes, let's go.
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So. But if I think I'm meek and lowly and not nothing, and nothing I say matters. Wait a minute. Who am I? Oh, I am made in the very image of God. And I'm a new creation. There's never been anybody beyond what we are. We're forces to be reckoned with. Even angels as powerful and mighty as they are don't even compare to a redeemed man of God.
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Oh, my goodness.
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That's who God made us to be. So, anyway, all that being said, these people who are coming out of the darkness are going to need our help. We're the only ones that live on this earth that have authority to do that. Nobody else does. So we need to be being equipped. We need to get him. I declare. I heal the sick. I raise the dead, cleanse the leper and I drive out demons. Oh. And with people who are feeling that, well, witches are sending curses against me. Well, my number one. Send it right back. But I would. I do. Some people don't agree with it. There's a scripture in there about sending stuff back. I gotta find it. Because people say, well, you're not supposed to send it back. Well, I would. You could have your stuff back. No, thank you. Okay. But I did this thing. The blood of Jesus is a weapon that is so powerful. We have no idea about the. The blood of Jesus. And so I was telling the other day, there was. There's this book years ago I read it was called the Witch that Switched. And she said when they were. She was doing all this witchcraft. She said we were always trying to get children because they would sacrifice them and drink their blood and whatever, but she would always be trying to get children. But she said there were these Christians that lived next door to me. And she said I wanted to get their children so bad, but I couldn't touch them. She's. Because every day those parents pled the blood of Jesus over their babies and we couldn't touch them. Could not touch them. Then there was a guy who went out to. This is in a book called the Blood and the Glory. He went out to the devils, told him, if you go out, go out and minister, I'm going to kill your children. He had five kids.
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If you got a minister.
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Yeah, because he was going to some country and he was going to minister. So this pastor went out, walked his entire property line and declared the blood of Jesus. Literally when he came back. Because he went anyway. He went and he came back. He went out to his property line and there were five dead rabid foxes. They came to the property line but couldn't cross the bloodline. The power of the blood of Jesus. Back in the day, the old saints would plead the blood of Jesus for healing and they would be healed. But they didn't back down. Some of them would stay up all night. See, we gotta. We've gotta come back. You know, I don't think it has to take so long, but, you know, a few people just carry mostly the weight of this. The church has to come back to Jesus and literally start taking our weapons of warfare, which are mighty through God, but also doing that and become focused on what are we hearing.
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Well, I love what you're saying. This equipping the church, equipping the saints. Because some people from afar might look at it like, well, here she goes again. She's the healer. She has all this power. She has all this knowledge and all this wisdom. She's doing her conference, and she's the one who can do everything. It's like we can't do what Pastor Bev can do. We can't. You've seen all of these miracles, all of these healings, and I've seen none. In fact, my whole family is sick. Everything is broken. And how is it that you're seeing all this? You must have the power. There's something special about you.
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Yeah, well, this is me in the very beginning. The first demon I tried to cast out of somebody. This is my. Probably my first year Christianity. I had to get started somewhere. And when I got started, all I was. Was on fire, knew nothing, but I was on fire. So I'm casting this demon out of this mental. This case, okay? And all of a sudden, I heard a voice say, you might as well quit because you don't know a thing. And I thought, I don't know anything, do I? So I quit. I quit because I didn't have nothing, no scripture to back me up. So I would pray for people. My first ones that I would pray for, they would just die. But I didn't quit. I didn't quit. I kept at it. And then God began. I would study the Word, and God began to add. So it's increase and increase and increase. So start where you're at, and if the devil don't act like he's obeying you, hit him again. And if he don't act like he's obeying you the second time around, hit him a third time. And a fourth time. My word is like a hammer, okay? So a lot of times the devil's just going to test you. Well, that one won't take much to knock over. So they just test you. Stand up, put on your boot, pull up your bootstraps and go after it. Because you've got the God of Heaven behind you. And will you miss a few? Absolutely. You or do I still miss a few? I do. Do I like it? No, I don't. So what am I doing? I'm trying to pray more in tongues, you know? But you know, I know, and I know it's not on me. I know that. But you know what? I keep talking it, preaching it. People are getting a hold of it. They really, really are. And we're going to build our army again in the kingdom of God. And we'll rise up and be the army of God we're supposed to be because it's Coming. It's coming.
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I gotta get into this book a little bit. But one thing that I'm getting from this, that I need in my spirit and I want everybody else to get is don't give up.
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Don't give up ever.
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It's almost like the enemy is counting on us, is betting on us to give up. He does, which is why he throws stuff in your ear. He'll make. He'll flash his signs. It makes no sense. Come on, we're talking about Jesus Christ here. The man brings his son to Jesus Christ and tells him Jesus asks him questions, interviewing him. How long has your son had this? It's been going on, and this demon is throwing them, casting it all down and right in front of Jesus face. The demon caused this boy to go down and manifest all loud and crazy. Jesus did not panic. Jesus didn't say, oh, dear, well, now my power has now been undermined. Jesus called that thing out and dealt with it. And I think it's almost that Jesus in the boat, he was like, haven't. Don't you guys get it already?
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Like, why are you panicking?
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I'm here. You have the faith to be able to speak to this. And so because the enemy is counting on us to give up. What we see in the church is not people that don't hope that Jesus could do it. It's people that have a seed that Abortion before its time.
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Yep, totally. Totally. And you know, another thing I say too, is that Jesus didn't deal with the same devil we do. Because when Jesus walked on the earth, I probably said this to you.
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Yeah, say it again.
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Okay. When he walked on the earth, the devil still was operating in the authority he had usurped from man. And it wasn't that Jesus didn't have all authority, but Jesus didn't operate as God on this earth. He operated on this earth as a man, just like we're supposed to do. Okay, so if he could do it, we can do it. But Jesus, again, operated as a man, showing us that he had all authority over the enemy, who actually, like I said, still was walking on the earth with authority. But the devil we deal with is one that Jesus took to the cross, disarmed, made a bold display of, triumphed over and brought to nothing. And then he said, here, all authority has been given to me. I got it back, folks. So we have it. And the only way you're going to. You know, it's kind of like going out and exercising. You know, I can tell people, you know, hey, you know, Pastor Ben, would you go lift weights for me today? Would you go do the go. I go to the Y now and so would you go and work out for me? It isn't going to do you any good at all. Wouldn't do me any good at all, would it? I have got to begin to exercise what the word of God says if I want it to work for me because otherwise it's not. I'm never going to build. You know, just like I can't expect somebody to go lift weights, do the machines at the Y for me and then I'm going to reap the results.
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I'm not.
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So in that same aspect, you can do this just like I could do it or anybody else could do it. My three year old grandson, one time his little sister was acting up and so he looks at her and says, come out of her, come out of her. So a three year old's commending to cast out the devil. And does it work? Yeah, it does. If they know their authority, if they stand in that place of authority, the devil's going to try to push you back maybe a few times. Maybe you need to just find out, well, what's the legal right here? Okay, maybe repent of it, ask God to show you what it is. God what hindered that? That I didn't get this. But you know what, it starts again with us being willing to say, just like when my mom said, bev, accept the fact he's going to be a cripple. I said no, I didn't know how to get the healing, come on. But I'm going to press till I find it out. I'm not going to give up. And you talk about the devil trying to discourage someone. I looked at X ray after X ray after X ray after X ray that said, your son's bone is dead, your son's bone is dead. It's not changing at all. It's even dead, dead number four. But I still kept pressing. Then I said, okay to this pastor, will you just come talk to us? Because we need somebody to tell us something so we can figure this out. Because God has healing for us and we know it. But we had to do two things. Cast the devil out and then allow the word of God to come in there and minister healing to the damage that had been done. So it took some time to learn it. But again, it's you being willing to press in there, mama, daddy, whoever, and submit to God, resist these things, things and say, no, it's a children's bread, come on, it's my provision. And I'm going to get it too. You know, it's not being Bev Tucker. Anybody can do this. If you're born again Christian, born again, spirit filled Christian God don't got favorites. Oh, and I don't think I have a special call at all. I'm just somebody who said I'm going to get this stuff gone.
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I want to ask because I want to get into the book, but a couple questions. One, one about just do we have to like you talked about workers as we have the power to speak things, maybe there are some things that we may have spoken over our children, spoken over our lives. Do we have to renounce? Do we have to repent over those things before we begin to start speaking life? Or as I start speaking life, it already already start undoing my sins and undoing things. Do I have to repent or can I just automatically just speak life over it?
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See, I think I would do all of it, but you don't have to wait on anything. Yes, you definitely want to start out speaking life and then when God shows you places you've messed up, then repent for that. But also start canceling out the words. Canceling out the words. And if it's your child and you've spoke death over them negative things, you can always go to your child and repent, ask them to forgive you and that will do a lot.
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Parents don't do that.
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Well, we sure did. We sure did with our kids because we said a lot of stupid things over our kids. Our lives were especially because of that house. We were in such chaos all the time. We were all fighting, we were all saying things. And so we had to backtrack and repent to our two sons, our daughter, for things we'd said. You know, just stupid stuff because it wasn't their identity. And the more see, when we began to find out truth, then we also, in the finding out the truth, found out so many of our mistakes we've made dumb things. You do. So we backtrack. You know, I don't think I've ever told you this, but my husband and I, our one son was living in Atlanta, the other one was in school in Oklahoma. And we'd. I had studied some stuff on blessings on how the Jewish people would bless their children every Friday night. Well, we never really spoke, sat and spoke blessing over our kids. So we went, I wrote up this prayer of blessing. We went to our sons. My husband got down on his knees before his son and asked them to forgive him for whatever different things that. Mistakes we'd made, places where we had failed as parents, not covered as parents. And then we prayed the blessing, prayer over them, and it was like everybody was crying. God just did healing in that. So we can always backtrack. And then, you know, like, when I do, the Lord is. I always say it this way. The Lord is our shepherd. That means my house, my house, my kids, my grandkids, God you bless them, and they all live for Jesus. I declare that every day, all my children are living for God. And we're all making the rapture.
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Hello.
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We are all making the rapture.
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Yes, absolutely. Man, that. That's transformational to hear that. Your husband, actually.
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Yeah, he did. Yeah.
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I. I think. I think you talked about reading the Word and allowing the Lord to illuminate those places. I. I love that. Because as you grow in the Lord, he's going to be. You don't. You don't even have to look for this end. He's going to start calling stuff out in you. The way you talk, the way you think, the way you move everything. And the closer you get to him, the more he start. It seems like I would say, lord, it seems like you're nitpicking on me. It seems like now I got to watch what I'm watching. I'm watching what I'm listening to. I'm watching the gentleness of my speech. I got to watch. Yes, I gotta be. I gotta. He's conforming me to his image. I'm like, lord, you just, like, you want me to be like you or something? And that's what he's doing. He's conforming us to his image. And I always tell people, I'm like, man, there's some stuff that the Lord let You slide with 10 years ago that today you can't afford to do. And so I always say, like, yes, we're going to have to live a life of repentance. Like conforming to his image is going to call us to graduate. As we begin to speak that life, he's going to say, okay, I need you to graduate here. I need you to watch the way you're moving here. I need to. Hey, that's not how we talk. That's not how we think.
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See, that's big. And I pray that too, every day. God, help me to be kind to people. I want to be kind. You know, so somebody says something and it irritates me. I can be kind instead of provoking more. You know, it's kind of like, shut your mouth. Yes, you know, and then do something kind to that person or just show me something to be kind. You know, in this one book of. It's called the Vision, but he talks about rewards. And, you know, when we stand before the Lord, hopefully we've repented of our sins. And I know we're under the blood, and the blood does blot out our sin. Okay. So there's the reason. I mean, God chooses to not remember them, but they're wiped clean. Yes, but he's gonna. When it says he's bringing back the books, the books are the rewards, and they're the kindnesses that we do for other people when we help people. And. And in fact, the pastor here just said, oh, he's such a kind person.
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Me?
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Yeah, he's so, so nice.
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What? Let's go.
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Okay.
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That's what I'm talking about. I love it.
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But I thought that was so awesome because that's the way we should be.
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Oh, man.
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We should be kind and loving to people.
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All right. I want to. I want to look into this book. So what is in there? What. What are we going to find in the book?
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Well, you will find out why you should speak the word.
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Okay.
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That it's not something goofy. It's all what. It's very scriptural.
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Okay.
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How words can frame your future. And I back everything up with Scripture. Okay. And. And also here at the beginning, it says we are to call the non existent things as though they already existed. Romans 4:17. So this is what God is telling us to do. This isn't. You know, just because a bunch of people, preachers, gave speaking the word a bad rap years ago. And because they misused it and used it as a manipulation, does not remove the power of God's word, nor does it remove the command that we have to have in our life of speaking it. It also takes training. Because what happens. And I still do this, some days I'll say something negative and then I have to repent. You know, Do I want what I just said? No. Did I mean what I just said? No. Not if I'm trying to be kind. I didn't. Do I want my children to be successful and blessed? Yes. Then I need to be saying what I want. So if I slip back into my flesh, which there's nothing good in our flesh, then I have to stop and repent it. But then I need to start working. And the more you work on aligning, even stopping and repenting is working and aligning. So even though you look at yourself and you feel like I Messed up again. Get back up and keep going.
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Get up.
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Yep. So you're going to be doing that, but there's a lot of declarations in here too, that you can do. Oh, and then job 38:12, have you commanded your day and caused the dawn to know its place? Do we speak to the day when we get up? Do we say, day? You're going to be a good day today. You know, this is going to be a prosperous day for me, a day of blessing. Things are going to go well today. If you have a meeting, this meeting is going to go well. It's going to be Job 38:12. The Lord says, have you commanded your morning or your day and caused the dawn to know its place, rather than allowing whatever to come into your day? Get up and command your day. Speak life. Speak blessings. Be healing. Speak provision. So it's learning. Why did God make me a speaking spirit? And that is in here too, in the Torah. I forget exactly where he created man. I think it's 2. 7. Genesis 2:7 says, and God made. When God made man, it says, and God made another speaking spirit. In other words, he made man to be like him. And that means mankind. What is God? He's apparently a speaking spirit, because that's what it says. Why is God a speaking spirit? Because he speaks, he says, and it comes to pass. So that's powerful. Isn't that powerful?
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How am I?
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I just kind of jumped through it. Oh, this is a good one. 2 Corinthians 4:13, talking about speaking. Yes, we have the same spirit of faith as he who wrote, I believed, and therefore have I spoken. We too believe, and therefore we speak. We speak what we believe. Psalm 116:10 says, I believe trusted and relied on the Lord, and therefore I have spoken. So we speak. Speak. We're told over and over, man is a speaking spirit. Genesis 2:7. And man became a living soul. The interpretation is more precise in the Torah when it says, and man became a speaking spirit. And I have actually the reference there where you can go, look that up. But how was Adam to rule? God didn't give him a tractor and a bunch of tools. He gave him this. So there's so much more. Be purposeful in sending God's word. So in other words, what needs to change in my life so that I would be purposeful in starting to say it? And again, like I said, what I used to do too. Not so much anymore. But I still do sometimes write out literally what I need to change and speak the word of God. And then I keep it before my face like it says in Proverbs 4:20. My son, don't let my word depart from your sight. Why? Because it's health and healing to all your flesh. Well, what does that mean? Just physical healing or to everything that has something to do with me, even my children, my finances. Come on. What needs healing in your life? Keep that word before you. And. Okay, so then the next one is my son's healing and numerous things. The word of God is life. Your word has renewed me and given me life. The word of the Lord is perfect, restoring the whole person. So again, like I say, when you cast out demons, then speak the word of God into those places in your life and healing. And just like when that girl was healed of the fibromyalgia last week, I said, now you need to be speaking the word of God over your life. And I said, if he comes knocking back on the door, come on, resist him. Come on, tell him to get out. In the name of Jesus. You don't take this back, you know, because the devil does that. He tries to put junk back on us. Yes, Words frame our future. If we can control our tongue, we can control our whole life. That's in the book of James. Yes, and I like that one, the only. Yeah. You know, and it also says, we're going to give an account on the day of judgment for every idle word. That's a tight one, isn't it? Boy, we got a lot of idol words to repent of, huh? My goodness. And then God rules by the spoken word. That's when God said. God said. God said. God said. God said. And it was so healing of planter's warts. I had a student talking about death and life being in the top part of the tongue. This little girl had warts that grew on both hands into the nails. Every year she had to have them burnt off. Her hands were covered. They were awful ugly. So I said to her, well, honey, I said, you go home and you curse. Start cursing those planters warts every day, every time you think of it and you look at them say, no, I curse you. And I say, dry up in the name of Jesus. This little girl took her six weeks and every wart was gone. They just kept getting smaller and smaller and smaller. She didn't give up. See, these children, these 8th graders didn't give up every day. And then I saw her maybe 10 years later, and she said, Ms. Tucker, my hands are still clean. God healed her because she said, okay, I can do that. Just like when the pastor's wife said, better speak the word. And I thought, well, that sounds strange, but I can do that. And I did it. The woman with the baby, with no arms and legs, every day declaring the word. Declaring the word.
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Come on.
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Yeah. We even had a lady who. And this one was her HCG levels. She had had a couple of abortions. And so in which death enters the female womb, all that with abortion, and she was pregnant and gone to the doctor. Her H, CG levels had either shot way, way up or way, way down. The opposite of what they're supposed to be. And so the doctor said the baby was dead. So she came and we prayed over her and commanded that spirit of abortion to come out of that baby, the spirit of death. We prayed the word of God over that baby. And the next day she had to go in for a D and C. They didn't do a D and C. Her levels were all back up like they were supposed to. And that little boy today is about 14 years old, totally healthy, totally healthy. So, you know, people just say, if a 13 year old could do it, any of us can do it.
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Wow.
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Any of us can do it. I had another girl who was. Had fear all the time. And I gave them, I gave them a whole paper of confessions, word to speak. And she said, God has. I will not fear because God has not given me a spirit of fear, but power and love and a sound mind and I will not fear. And she defeated fear by saying that word in her life. So listen, Jesus defeated the devil. It is written.
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It is written declaring, today my life has changed. Why? Because when I go home, things are going to be different with my entire family. Why? Because I realize the type of believer I've been has been a reactionary believer, some in some good ways and some bad ways. Right. So when, when I see the good that God has done, I'm grateful I'm able to analyze it and say, okay, I see God here, I see God there, I see God here. But what I'm not, is I'm not a believer that deals with the non existent as well. I'm not speaking as consistently the things that I don't see. I'm more responding to the things that I do.
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Yep.
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And I, from today I want to be the type of believer and even
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what you would see, like maybe with your children, what don't you see in them that you'd like to see in them?
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There it is.
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They're calling it out and then speak it to them also, you know, we all like to be appreciated. We all like to be loved. Have mercy. You know, even a thank you sometimes make them feel like, wow, what you did is really awesome. You know, our words are so important and you can turn I believe, relationships around where a lot of times parents and children are alienated. Words could change that. Persistent words. Persistent because first time you say something they're like, oh, but persistent words could. Thank you for power of words.
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I don't know, man. Church, if y' all not revived, if this doesn't change you, I. I think everyone needs to get a hold of this book. Why? Because there's something that you said that I'm gonna, I'm not gonna forget as it relates to this end time season that the church is in. If the church is already practicing doing what God? I like the way you put it. You said making. Making our mouths one. I don't know how you put it.
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Bringing them into unity with God.
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Bringing them into. If the church gets in the practice of bringing their mouths into unity with God, then there's going to get to a point where we're not going to be able. Like the Internet. All these things are going to fail us. We're already going to be in full blown operation and we're going to see straight manifestation. But if we're still in our corners in our beggarly state, then like literally we're the, the laborers are shrinking. We need to stand up. We need to be speaking. We need to. If she's talking about 8th graders are speaking, 6 year olds, 7 year olds, 9 year olds are doing this. Why are we sitting back waiting? Yes. Go to the conference to get equipped so that you can go out and do what the word is calling us to do.
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Yep. And come to the conference to get free. I mean, definitely, because that's going to be a deliverance. Yours is too. We're going to be doing deliverance. Yes, you know, and remove the darkness too. You know, it's like I heard a guy say one time, because we haven't been doing deliverance. We have two kingdoms warn against each other. We'll remove the dark, you know, and it'll be a lot easier for you then to speak life when darkness is gone. Also. So it's so important. Even in the back of my manual I have two pages of confessions, the word about what God says to say over you. So I guess I would say people
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don't know what the manual is.
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Okay, well, okay, so this is setting the captive free Deliverance manual. Okay, so. And there's also a whole Bunch of scriptures to say who you are. So if you haven't found those yet, because you didn't go all the way to the back, but they're there to start saying who you are in Christ. And so it's important because a lot of people don't have confidence. They feel like they're God's worst kid. They feel condemned. You know, God never condemns us. He never guilts us. We only get conviction from the Holy Spirit. So when you're being condemned, shamed, or guilted, that ain't coming from the Lord. It's coming from your enemy.
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Come on.
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Holy Spirit convicts us. And you know yourself, when he convicts you, it's like, when need to work on this. You need to repent of this. You need to get this out of your life. He isn't beating you down.
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Have mercy.
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And making you feel like you're horrible. God don't do it that way.
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Listen, listen, I. What I appreciate about you is with the. With your books, you do a lot of the hard work for us. Like, a lot of the scriptures are all gathered in one place. We're able to put it all together. So I would recommend. If you don't have either of these books, I say get both.
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And this one, too.
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Oh, yeah.
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Free Rejection. The Deliverance Manual.
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There's one for the kids that.
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Yeah. And how to get your children free or keep doors closed for kids like that.
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Yeah, so we're going to have all of these links in the description. Listen, if you're willing to invest in yourself in any way buying clothes, you know, y' all be shopping on all these little sites. There's nothing that is more important than you actually positioning yourself and your family for freedom. Not just for you to be free, but to cultivate freedom around you. You have your Bible. Praise God. I encourage you. I don't really push people's books as heavy as this because I actually have her books and I see the change and transformation. I recommend it to everyone. Get these books because, again, she's doing a lot of the work for us. And I'm not saying we need to be lazy, but you need to appreciate the work that was done so that we can just quickly pick it up. We got the top. Okay depression. We go right to it and deal with it based on the Scripture. So I want you, if you can, if you could, pray for those that are here. I think that even while you're speaking, the enemy is saying, yeah, that applied to them, that applied to her, but it's not going to apply. To you. You've been in this too long. You've been bound for too long. You can't get free. There's no way you can be healed. There's no way your son could be healed. So just to even deal with the nagging, lying voice of the enemy, the word curses that they put over themselves, I. I want to pray because I believe even in this conversation, people will be healed from this actual broadcast. So if you could pray for us.
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Amen. Well, Father, in Jesus name, God, I just pray that every ear would be open to hear and every eye to see the truth, God, of what your word says. Father, in the name of Jesus and Father, we come to you today and we repent for word curses, things we spoke over our lives, things that we spoke over our family, our finances, our health, God, God, we repent, God, and we cancel the authority of those words. Father, in the name of Jesus. We can command those words null and void. And we command those words to fall to the ground. We say they will no longer produce God in our lives. But Father, in the name of Jesus, we choose today to speak life.
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Life.
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Over our bodies, over our finances, over our families, over our health. Father, in the name of Jesus. Over even ministries or whatever we are doing. We speak life. And Father, in Jesus name, God, I ask Holy Spirit of God that you would work with us. I ask Holy Spirit, God, check us, check us and help us, God, train us and give us the ability, Lord, to begin to shift into a new place in our life. Father, I pray even for those that are dealing with the demonic, that are dealing with witchcraft in the occult. Father, I thank you that your authority is above all other authority, God, and you put that authority in us. So Father, today, God, we are going to begin to rise up and rule and reign. And I challenge every single person that's listening to me. Take the name of Jesus, take the blood of Jesus. Take the word of God as your weapon and begin to wield the sword of it in the mighty name of Jesus. Because the God that we serve is above every. The name of Jesus is above every other name. And at that name we can enforce every need to bow. And we will, Lord, in the name of Jesus. So God, I pray, God, that you would give them hope, God, in the name of Jesus, to begin to start stepping out by faith. And if anyone feels they don't have faith, God has already given you a measure of faith as a born again believer. And if you not receive Jesus, you can be a born again believer. All you have to do is Repent and invite him into your heart. Give your life to Jesus. Take yourself out of your keeping, because apparently we mess up way too much. We need him. So surrender your life today to the Lord Jesus Christ and give yourself totally over to him. Receive him and confess him as the Lord of your life and he will save you to whosoever would come. He said, I will in no way turn away from them. Cast them out. So, Father, right now, I bind the enemy, I bind the lies. In the name of Jesus.
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Thank you.
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We declare today God, in the name of the Lord Jesus. Thank you that, Father. Your people are going to rise up.
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Yes, God.
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They're going to know their God and they are going to do great feats. God. In the name of Jesus and God, I declare that this whole session today has given people hope. God and I bind that hope to them. And I say, devil, you will not steal it in the name of Jesus. But I declare God right now that God, your people are going to cast out devils. God. They'll speak in new tongues, Father. Healing is going to come into their house, into their families. Great restoration. Lord, you said, I will restore. Restored to you and replaced to you. The years, the years. So if you've lost years, he said, I'm going to restore those years and replace those years that the. The crawling locust. The stripping locust, Father. The locust. God, the caterpillar has stripped from your people. Those are demon spirits. And he said, I'm going to restore what the enemy has stolen in the name of the Lord Jesus.
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Thank you.
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I just feel like the Lord is just saying to. To you that are listening, press and refuse to be denied the provision of the cross because he is your God. He is your Lord. He is your Savior. So refuse to be denied. But press, press, press. Be persistent with your faith and force. Breakthrough. Force that breakthrough in your children's life. And I just feel also like there's parents with children who are. Have stepped into homosexuality and lesbianism. Father, we call them out today. We call them out of the darkness. In the name of Jesus and Father God. We declare that as we are saved, our whole house shall be saved. So, Father, in the name of Jesus, I break the lies that the enemy has implanted in their minds, in their subconscious, in their will. And I command them to turn their hearts back around in the name of Jesus and come back. Come back. We call you out of the dark. Yes, we call you out of the dark. In the mighty name of Jesus and God. We declare the blood of Jesus over our families, Our Houses. In the name of Jesus.
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Hallelujah.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Amen. You know, I believe that when I got saved, within my loins and my husband's loins were our family. When we got saved, they got saved. They were already in our loins, our bloodline.
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Wow.
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I believe that.
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Yeah. They're already declared that. And he said, I will that. He said, believe in your house shall be saved. Noah and his family came into the ark that place Abraham and his seed. But when he saved me, he saved literally, the offspring what was in my loins. God is so good, isn't it?
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I will not accept any other truth but that. Come on. Yes. Tap in with Pastor Beth. Her website will have this. I'm putting all the links for the books. You'll have all of that. And if you guys want to be a part of this, our we need to Heal is going to be. I don't know if I can announce it now, but it is going to be free to the public. By the time this is released, you'll know it's going to be free. It's going to be by registration only. But I say be mindful, be considerate, be integral, because so many people are going to be coming from different parts of the world. We don't want you to usurp seats. That might be for people who really want to be there and will make
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it there and are serious about getting grace. Yep.
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Yes. Thank you so much again.
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Thank you.
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Every time. My life has changed every time.
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I got so many more stories, too, but we just didn't get to them. Ain't no way out of deliverance stories. Miracles that happened through deliverance. And one thing you see is more miracles when you do deliverance, they just happen. So it's amazing stuff.
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I'm excited.
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I don't.
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I don't know what to say. But again, thank you. Now I just feel. I feel empowered. I feel like my kids can walk in power now.
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They can. Yeah.
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I. I just. I don't know. This. This was life giving. This was hope. And I just can't wait to see what God does with that book, because I believe that's going to be.
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I believe it's going to change lives.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Love you. Thank you so much again.
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Yes. God bless you.
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Now, you might be asking, what is the gospel? The gospel is very simple. That you are a sinner and that you are on your way to hell without a shadow of a doubt. You were born in sin and the wrath of God abides on you. And you do not deserve to go there by way of your sin. But while you were still a sinner, God sent his Son Jesus, who loved you and died for you, as your substitutionary sacrifice. Which means he died in your place so that you could live his life. Which means he died for your sin. He was buried and three days later he resurrected from the dead. And if you would confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. That's out here. No, no, I'm talking about the real Jesus of the Bible. The eternal Son of God that became a man. God manifested in the flesh that became a man. And in 33 years, he died on the cross provided, fighting, redemption, buying us back, translating us out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of his dear Son. Which means he redeemed us back to God. He reconciled you back to God by way of his death on the cross. And so you're probably saying, how can I be saved? Very simple. All you have to do is repent of your sin. I'm not talking about 360, talking about 180. You turn. You turn from your sin. You believe in the gospel exclusively, just Jesus. I'm not talking about Jesus and Mary. I'm not talking about Jesus and Buddha. I'm not talking about Jesus and some other centralized figure. And I'm not even talking about Jesus and your spiritual father and destiny and all of that. No, no. There's only one way to heaven. Jesus said, I am the way. I am the truth. I am the life. And nobody comes up to the Father any except through me. Jesus is exclusively the only way. You want to know why he's the only way? Because he's not only the only way. He is the door to enter in. And the only way you could get in is by way of repentance. You must repent and become born again. Why? Because only sons and daughters can become citizens in the kingdom. Outsiders can't come in. But Jesus died on that cross and he made the world way open for you. And if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. I'm not talking about all this other stuff to get saved. No, no, just believe. Believe in him the efficacy of Christ's work on the cross as the substitutionary sacrifice in exchange for your sin. Which means you give up your sin. You give it to Him. He exchanges it and takes on your sin. Yes, but he gives you his righteousness. And then you are righteous and justified by faith in Jesus. And when you have justification because of Jesus, now you have peace with God. You have peace with God. And watch this. And now he will no longer be just your God. He is now your heavenly Father through the person of his Son, Jesus. Why don't you pray that prayer right now? Just repeat after me. Say, lord, I believe that I am a sinner and that I deserve to go to hell. But God, you sent your son. Go ahead. Those of you that are watching, repeat what I'm saying. Say, God, you sent your son, Jesus Christ to die for my sin. He was buried. Three days later, he resurrected from the dead. I now confess. You lose Lord Jesus as my Lord, as my Savior. Come into my heart, come into my life and wash me from my sin. And now say this. Say, holy Spirit, I surrender my life to you. Make me born again in Jesus, mighty name. My friend, if you said that prayer, whichever way you said, said that prayer. As long as you believe, confess with your mouth. Jesus is Lord and that he died on the cross for you. And three days later, he resurrected and you repented and believe that message. The Bible says, whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. You are saved, my friend. Here's what I want you to do. There's going to be an email that's going to be put on the video right here. And I want you to write. I want you to write this channel and tell them that you accepted Christ as your Savior. Savior and brother Ezekiel. And this. The administrative staff of this channel will help you find a local church in your area that will point you in the right direction. But we need to hear from you. Say, man of God and that broadcast. I know you guys are talking about demons and devils, but I ended up getting saved and I ended up renouncing all other gods.
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Yeah.
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Which means you got to renounce all other gods and believe. Exclusively on the Son of God. And welcome to the family of God.
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