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Isaac Fitzgerald, author of American Rambler: Walking the Trail of Johnny Appleseed (Penguin Random House), stops by the pod to talk about the historic figure of John Champan, Isaac’s own complex familial relationship with the outdoors, faith, and American legends. How did apples become a symbol of Americana? Bars and stadiums, and churches? Isaac’s first time getting ducked, a tradition as American as apple cider. • Isaac’s: Instagram | Website • Purchase a copy of American Rambler (out May 12!) • Dirtbag, Massachusetts: A Confessional (2022) • Johnny Appleseed • The Epic Romance of Saeed Jones and Isaac Fitzgerald — About the show: A culture podcast by two insufferable queer introverts in the South who really need to know who’s gonna be there before they commit to anything. Instagram: @whosgonnabetherepod TikTok: @whosgonnabetherepod

On this episode of Who’s Gonna Be There?, Blake and Kashif sit down with DJ Afrosheen, one of the hottest DJs of the queer South, and a name you might recognize from Bonnaroo, SXSW, or opening for Jill Scott. The trio talk about Afrosheen’s journey from studying dance to curating the music for queer people to dance to, and Afrosheen’s commitment to ensuring that everyone (especially Black folks) feel safe in queer spaces. What makes a good DJ? What does it mean for ravers to ‘catch the spirit’? Has dance music gone gospel? Afrosheen joins the hosts for the game. ALSO: Today is the official launch of our Patreon! If you’ve been impacted by our podcast in any way, please consider supporting us. With a membership (as low as $5/month!) you’ll receive access to ad-free and bonus episodes, plus special content, like episodes filmed in a coffee shop, book club chats and more. As a Patreon member, you’ll also get to add names to our randomizer for the game, so that we can consider being anti-social together. • DJ Afrosheen Socials: Instagram | Soundcloud | YouTube | TikTok • SIGN UP FOR OUR PATREON (Support us for as little as $5/month!) • MashUp Nation • Tramaine Hawkins • Albertina Walker — About the show: A culture podcast by two insufferable queer introverts in the South who really need to know who’s gonna be there before they commit to anything. Instagram: @whosgonnabetherepod TikTok: @whosgonnabetherepod

We had such a fun time getting to sit down and chat with one of our most seasoned friends from our party days, Meg Perry! She so graciously shares with us everything from her unexpected pregnancy to her traumatic birth story to her divorce and the logistical struggles of coparenting. Sarah ‘s been traveling, Joy needs a new car and Meg is recovering from a case of vertigo. Join us. About our guest: Originally from Oklahoma City, Meg Perry is a Nashville-based mom of an 11-year-old son. In 2004, she moved to Nashville with dreams of becoming a singer, gave up on that immediately, spent 15 years teaching Spanish, and somehow ended up in real estate. Things mostly didn’t go as planned — but she loves life and is always trying to figure it out, usually while co-parenting and stressed AF. Follow Momcult on Instagram @momcultpodcast.

The US war with Iran brings Armageddon into public conversation, yet again. This time, with some US military leaders allegedly aiming to bring about this endtime battle, while others (Pete Hegseth) warn that Iran is the one desirous of a religious Armageddon. So, what exactly is Armageddon and where does it come from? In this episode, our hosts look at the history of apocalyptic thought, Armageddon, and surrounding ideas such as the Rapture, Great Tribulation, and millennialism. How have evangelical media depictions of these ideas contributed to our current geopolitical situation? A special endtime edition of the game. • Zoroastrianism • John Darby • Clarence Larkin • The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein • Millennialism • Left Behind Films • A Thief in the Night • The Rapture Short Film — About the show: A culture podcast by two insufferable queer introverts in the South who really need to know who’s gonna be there before they commit to anything. Instagram: @whosgonnabetherepod TikTok: @whosgonnabetherepod

Nicholas Boggs, author of the new James Baldwin biography, Baldwin: A Love Story (Farrar, Straus and Giroux), stops by the pod for a conversation on the platonic and romantic love life of the icon. How did Baldwin’s love for men, women, and people square with his love for Country? What James Baldwin did with all his longing. A look at euro-centric beauty standards and unusual paths to self-love. The importance of the archives, and remembering that your favorite bygone writer used toilets, too. • Nicholas Boggs Socials: Instagram • Baldwin: A Love Story by Nicholas Boggs • 2018 Reissue of Little Man, Little Man by James Baldwin • Beauford Delaney • Yoran Cazac • Engin Cezzar • Lucien Happersberger • Bette Davis • Lisa Rinna — About the show: A culture podcast by two insufferable queer introverts in the South who really need to know who’s gonna be there before they commit to anything. Instagram: @whosgonnabetherepod TikTok: @whosgonnabetherepod

Fun fact: kissing isn’t a universal human behavior, and is only exhibited by about 50% of humans, mostly in the industrialized parts of the world. In this special episode on touch, co-host Blake, a licensed massage therapist and educator, guides us through an exploration of physical touch. What actually happens in our bodies when we touch? Can touch make me more attractive? What’s the correlation between violent crime and touch? Beyond the pale of sexual vs non-sexual touch, and into new expansive language about this experience of healing, communication, and even revolution. A special cuddle edition of the game. • The Ethics of Touch: The Hands-on Practitioner’s Guide to Creating a Professional, Safe, and Enduring Practice (3rd Edition) by Ben Benjamin and Cherie Sohnen-Moe • Touch Matters by Michael Banissy • Touch: The Science of Hand, Heart, and Mind by David J. Linden • The Deepest Sense: A Cultural History of Touch by Constance Classen — About the show: A culture podcast by two insufferable queer introverts in the South who really need to know who’s gonna be there before they commit to anything. Instagram: @whosgonnabetherepod TikTok: @whosgonnabetherepod

Sarah Jane Chapman is a yoga therapist, tarot reader, astrologer, and founder of Be With Your Body, a total embodiment practice. She stops by the pod to tell us what astrology already knew about our present darkness and what we can do about what is to come. To manifest or not to manifest: that is the astrological question. How is tarot a mirror? What does loving your body actually feel like? Sarah joins our hosts for a special tarot edition of the game. Sarah Jane’s Socials: Instagram | Website Sarah’s Tarot Deck: Be With Your Body — About the show: A culture podcast by two insufferable queer introverts in the South who really need to know who’s gonna be there before they commit to anything. Instagram: @whosgonnabetherepod TikTok: @whosgonnabetherepod

Joy invites on Activist and OG mom friend, Colleen Weiss, to give us the dose of hope and motivation that we, as mothers, could all use right now. Sarah shares about her magical trip to New Orleans, Joy is applying to high schools and Colleen needs her kids to go to school for at least one full week. Trigger Warning: We discuss current events including ICE and the Epstein Files. About our guest: Originally from St. Paul, Minnesota, Colleen moved to Nashville in 2009 by way of Brooklyn, New York. She’s worn many hats over the years, from waiting tables, to custom menswear slinger, to her current role as a real estate agent. Personally knowing the benefits of homeownership, she is particularly passionate about helping first time homebuyers. After the Covenant shooting in 2023 she began regularly showing up to the state capitol where she learned the ins and outs of TN state politics. Since that time her activism work has grown, most recently with the creation of the Angelic Dissenters podcast. A weekly update on the TN General Assembly and the harmful policies being introduced. When not yelling in the streets, she can be found at home in East Nashville with her husband and two daughters Mabel and Josie. Follow Momcult on Instagram @momcultpodcast.

In this season premiere, guns are close to home. Our hosts explore their relationship to bearing arms, and how the respect of that right changes based on who holds the gun. They explore the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense and lesser known armed Black self-defense groups. Who are these new Black Panthers defending against ICE? Was MLK a gun owner? What does it mean to be nonviolent and own a gun? The striking similarity between Freedom Summer and Minneapolis. • This Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed by Charles E. Cobb • Freedom Summer • Black Lion Party for International Solidarity • Black Panther Party for Self-Defense • Too Black on Nonviolence — About the show: A culture podcast by two insufferable queer introverts in the South who really need to know who’s gonna be there before they commit to anything. Instagram: @whosgonnabetherepod TikTok: @whosgonnabetherepod

In this bonus episode, Blake recounts a wild experience of group hypnotism and an unexpected power differential. Kashif examines James Baldwin’s first three novels, and how, he too, was hypnotized—by love. — About the show: A culture podcast by two insufferable queer introverts in the South who really need to know who’s gonna be there before they commit to anything. Instagram: @whosgonnabetherepod TikTok: @whosgonnabetherepod