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A.J. Holiday
What's up y'all?
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A.J. Holiday
Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. Welcome to We Talk Back, where we encourage you to hustle hard, laugh louder, and always keep it cute. So Grab your coffee cocktail and crown. Cause it's about to go down.
Tammy
We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion. He talks back.
A.J. Holiday
What's up, y'all? It's your girl, A.J. holiday. What's up, Big Tim? Bam boom boom. Saw your booty on the ground.
Tammy
Hey, you see that ass? I had to pop out. I love y'all, man. I love y'all so much. I extra love y'all this week. Y'all was in my dms. First of all, it was a lot of y'all talking about. I was licking on toes. I did not lick that toes. That is a lie. Y'all stop. Y'all running out talking about your teeth. Your teeth too pretty to be licking feet. I never put that foot in my mouth. Let's let that go, okay?
A.J. Holiday
I wish we had the video, man. It would have been more funnier so they could see your face when he started saying that.
Tammy
Y'all, we filmed all this. And then the filmographer ran off with the footage.
A.J. Holiday
Not filmographer.
Tammy
Videographer.
A.J. Holiday
Shame.
Tammy
Creighton ran off with our footage. Yo, it's just. We try, okay? And we're gonna keep trying, but.
A.J. Holiday
And we're gonna keep trying with black people, too. We ain't giving up on y'all.
Tammy
We not giving up on y'all. But I love y'all so much. I do. How was your weekend, aj?
A.J. Holiday
You saw me. I was outside a little bit.
Tammy
I see you outside with some bad, too girls.
A.J. Holiday
I was outside with some girls. I reconnected with one of my friends. And she lived right down the street from each other.
Tammy
Damn.
A.J. Holiday
One of my friends, Courtney. So I hung out with her and some of her friends and we went outside in the hood. Yes.
Tammy
I love a good hood.
A.J. Holiday
And it's hard being the cutest people in the fucking club.
Tammy
I like it.
A.J. Holiday
I don't.
Tammy
I prefer it.
A.J. Holiday
Cause I feel like every girl want to fight and don't nobody want to fight. The niggas just. We be praying they don't even come over. But we do want y'all to still buy drinks, though.
Tammy
And not come over. It's crazy.
A.J. Holiday
I mean, come over, but, like, come to buy drinks. Like, we paid, like. First of all, I was pissed because we paid $30 a piece to get into this. It was R B night in the hood. If we go downtown, Charleston and any downtown, really, you don't pay to get any place. Get in any white establishments. You go in and. I mean, mixed crowds.
Tammy
No, mixed crowds can be fun, but if it's an all white crowd. I be feeling in danger. No shade to white people. But I'll be scared the same way y'all feel when y'all in an all black crowd. I feel the same way.
A.J. Holiday
So I don't, I don't be comfortable nowhere. Because when I'm in the hood, I'd be like. And it's really, really ain't too much. It's not that much of the hood. But enough. It's enough.
Tammy
I don't go nowhere. That's too, too hood. Now I'd be scared now when in my younger days I fall right in.
A.J. Holiday
But this is like old Y. N's like the old street, this place.
Tammy
Oh, they not.
A.J. Holiday
You can still get popping though.
Tammy
Why you can't be an oy in? It means young.
A.J. Holiday
An old young. We know these be some grown ass boys out here. Okay, look, I told, look, I told this. I'm about to start calling him YN Lim because you be around here thinking you a little boy, a young guy, old ass niggas. Y and Limb. What's up? Y and Limb.
Tammy
Don't do that. Don't do that.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah, but we have fun, child. We have fun. And I went over to one of my, one of my other guy friends, he owns a bar down here. So we went there for a little bit too.
Tammy
I think it's Mercury. What's called Renegade. Renegade.
A.J. Holiday
Girl, shut up. It's Mercury retrograde. And it did start on the 15th.
Tammy
Girl, when I tell you every I ever knew in my life slid this weekend, like was trying to because you.
A.J. Holiday
Put that ass on the gram. You already know.
Tammy
But even before reminder.
A.J. Holiday
Oh, okay.
Tammy
Oh, but all right. So they really started rolling in when I posted that picture. But prior to that they was already like in the DMS in the text. Like just. It was weird because I, you know, circle back. We already know that's going to happen. But having them all, it's like they was in a group chat and like, let's who. Who this gonna text back first? That's what it seem like. I went outside on Saturday night, shout out to Stats in Charlotte, North Carolina. I went there and they had their patio open. I've never been to STAT since it was remodeled and I went to.
A.J. Holiday
Oh, nice. They got a patio now. I hear that.
Tammy
So, yeah, they, they are. If you ever been to like camp in Houston, their patio is giving that kind of vibe. So it's like a whole nother party outside versus the inside, which I preferred. Yeah, when we sat out there and, you know, had a Little cocktail, a little hookah, a little. You know, that's. That's not cocaine. Yeah, that might have sounded like cocaine.
A.J. Holiday
That's cocaine. When we say woo, that's cocaine. Okay, Speaking of cocaine. Hold on. So we get to the bar, my homeboy spot and a who was buying us drinks at the other club, he came, sat at the table with us, and I'm like, you got something on your glasses and your nose. Powdery substance.
Tammy
Clean it up. Cold core.
A.J. Holiday
So you take his glasses off, he was like, oh, thank you. Thank you for looking out. I say, yeah, you need to tighten up. I mean, he had like a little narrow nose too. So like the. The shit was like a little like a contour. The cook was contoured on that nigga nose and on the corner the glasses. And I'm like, yo, can really be outside rolling.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
I never knew you will be so. Yes, I know, right? But I'm always so shocked at people who do cocaine.
Tammy
Right. Me too.
A.J. Holiday
Okay. The hell is happening? Yeah, Speaking of, I'm not with that.
Tammy
I used to, like, want to try, you know, Really? I listen, I want to try everything. That's my problem. That's been my problem in life. I'm. I'm willing to try everything once. I'd be like, I just want to live. But drugs I'm scared of because I know I got that addictive personality and I'll be a crackhead. Really, I already know. So I just have to be careful about what I consume and what I do. So no cocaine for me. And then people be dropping dead all the time. Like, literally dropping dead. So I wouldn't with it.
A.J. Holiday
It's not clean coke anymore. You don't know what you're getting. You don't know what you get with the weed, the pills, the coke. Like fentanyl is mixed in every damn thing.
Tammy
So have you ever put on something you're like, I don't know if it's giving. And then you go out and everybody like, oh, your outfit's so cute. And you like, oh, shit. I wasn't even sure about. That's what happened. I'm about to order that little outfit in every color.
A.J. Holiday
So you was feeling yourself this weekend?
Tammy
Yes, I was. Saturday night.
A.J. Holiday
I was too. Cause I don't be going outside for real. So I haven't been like, in a environment with music and people in a.
Tammy
Minute in a while. Me neither. Because my foot was broken and I was not coming outside like that.
A.J. Holiday
I can count how many times a year I go outside.
Tammy
Yeah. Because it ain't for me like that. I don't have to be sitting on the couch. I've been doing it forever. I don't have to do that no more. I want. Take me on a trip.
A.J. Holiday
Yes.
Tammy
And to eat or.
A.J. Holiday
I want to go out. I want to go out. Out of town, locally. I'm cool on it. So.
Tammy
I know everybody's been asking this in the DMs, too. For the love of Tamban. They was like, what happened? Y'all just gonna do the show and then don't tell us what happened? So it was, like, really close between Jordan and Willie Williams, but ultimately, Willie Williams came out as the victor on who y'all voted for. So he was actually. I didn't wanna, like. I wanted us to do a full episode on it after I went out on a date with him. And he was actually supposed to fly to New York to take me on a date this week, this past weekend, but I was in Charlotte. I stayed in Charlotte. I didn't get back on time. So he did not come out. But we're gonna go on a date. And then after the date, we're definitely. Maybe I'll invite him back on to have a conversation about how the date went, if y'all want to hear it. So that's what's up. I just wanted to update y'all on that and thank y'all for voting for me a date. I can't wait to go on this date. This man has to fly across the country, so hopefully halfway.
A.J. Holiday
Where you live at.
Tammy
Oh, well, I guess it's not that far.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah.
Tammy
New Georgia to New York. Not across the country. Up the East Coast.
A.J. Holiday
All right.
Tammy
So good luck to that.
A.J. Holiday
Okay. Don't pop the balloon on a. I.
Tammy
Will pop a balloon quick. I love to see the.
A.J. Holiday
Bring on to that episode.
Tammy
I sent a text message of a red balloon and a safety pin to a nigga real quick and then be done.
A.J. Holiday
Oh, hold on. Before we get into stupid Internet news. So you are saying that you've never sucked toes before?
Tammy
No, I've never sucked. Well, all of y'all. I ain't never put nobody foot in my mouth.
A.J. Holiday
Me neither. I be like looking at nigga sideways when they put my feet in their mouth. Like, I expect a nigga to lick my toes while my legs in the air, but I'm also looking like, nigga, I was just tiptoe across your fucking floor like Winnie the Pooh. Like, what are you doing? My feet position.
Tammy
Would I have had to been in to be putting a Nigga foot in my mouth. Like, you know, like, where am I? Am I like, down on the floor? Like, on your knees? I'm not that submissive.
A.J. Holiday
We want to hear from y'all. Tell us anybody who be licking men's feet, like, please tell us what position y'all be in. Like, how y'all be doing it. Do he, like, just be laying down on his back and you just massaging him up from head to feet or head to toe? I want to know, like, how you do that?
Tammy
Yeah, I'm not going to. I'm not going to foot shame because there's some people are really into feet. Like this guy I was talking to, he's like, he's really a big feet guy.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah, but he's a feet guy. Does he like his feet play with or. He likes to play with feet.
Tammy
Oh, he likes to play with feet, right?
A.J. Holiday
I don't know too many men that want you sucking they toes. For real.
Tammy
But y'all, I think I'm like a bad bitch. Don't get me wrong, but we all got flaws. My left foot go crazy. He ain't gonna like me.
A.J. Holiday
So if y'all looking for what's wrong with Tammy, it's the left foot.
Tammy
It's the left foot and the right. I broke the right and the left ugly. It's the feet. Listen, I'm bad everywhere. I'm fine everywhere else. I even got pretty kneecaps. But these feet, this left foot, look like I can snatch a seven right.
A.J. Holiday
Out the street, picking up rocks and throwing them. I just got a long ass second left, so. Which means you run in your relationship. Allegedly. I don't know.
Tammy
You be musty sometime, but outside of it.
A.J. Holiday
Oh, girl, speaking of musty. Hold on. Before we, like, before we get into stupid Internet news, girl, I was outside. I had like a little denim, little crop top jacket on, and I'm like, now I'm checking me out. But one of the girls who was with us, now I'm just meeting these lovely young ladies, she was like, girl, I got on natural deodorant. Like, she started smelling me too. I was over here trying to figure out if it was me. It was me a little tiny bit.
Tammy
But listen, that natural deodorant ate for the week. Listen, I started last year using natural deodorant. And it was colder outside. As it's getting warmer, I'm finding that, yeah, you got to go tight. Like, I done went to the bathroom and at a public place and wash my armpits under the sink and Put some more deodorant on because it just wasn't holding me.
A.J. Holiday
What brand do you use?
Tammy
So right now I'm using the Donna Karen Natural. It smells so good.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah, but so I use Arm and Hammer, which is cheap, it's not expensive, and I buy it in bulk off Amazon. And it works. I mean, with natural deodorant is not gonna stop you from sweating. It's supposed to just try to cut the smell some. Right. Because the whole thing is not to block your pores.
Tammy
Right.
A.J. Holiday
Because you know, that causes you sweat.
Tammy
And I'm okay with it because I know that my body is supposed to eliminate those toxins. That's the purpose of your armpit sweating, is to release those toxins. So I'm learning that now because. But it's uncomfortable to be wet under your armpits. It's nasty. It feel gross.
A.J. Holiday
I really don't sweat that much. It's like.
Tammy
But the.
A.J. Holiday
The pores be funky. I don't really like sweat a whole lot.
Tammy
And it seemed like when I would, like, I would shower and I could just wash my armpits and it'll be like, fine. Now I really got to like, scrub, scrub, scrub, scrub, scrub, scrub.
A.J. Holiday
Exfoliate.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
Also I use, like a salt, a little mixture.
Tammy
I didn't start using the glycolic body under my armpits because it's an exfoliator to just strip all that, because what is that?
A.J. Holiday
It's bacteria. So we don't get into it because this. Yeah, I want to talk about some this week. So which. Which basically, like, you know, what you eat, what you consume, it comes out through your skin. Right. So not everybody smells. Some people don't even wear deodorant. And they don't smell. And I. They probably can attribute that to a good diet, you know?
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah. Okay, so now let's finally get into. Into stupid Internet.
Tammy
Okay, hold on. Before we leave.
A.J. Holiday
God damn.
Tammy
I mean, before we go to sizzle. It was this young Hawaiian that, you know, I like me a little while, and every now and then.
A.J. Holiday
I thought you said Hawaiian. Initially Hawaiian.
Tammy
And he was like, like 30. About to be 30. So young. But just for. We was just hanging out, having a good time. He was fine. And he got this strong, almost hoteppy energy. Like, you know, he got a beard. Yeah, beard. Pretty curly hair. He got probably some seashells on his neck or some bullshit like that, you know, Very earthy nigga. And he don't wear no deodorant. He just said he put lemon under his armpit.
A.J. Holiday
I did that for a while before I started using a natural deodorant, and that shit started burning my skin.
Tammy
Baby, when I tell you that man came to my house, and he had lit my house up so stank. I was like, I'm sorry. I. We was going. We was walking to the park. We was going to go to the park. And I was like, look, I got to be honest with you. Your armpit like a right now, and I cannot do it. I got some natural deodorant in there. I put a washcloth on the sink. There's soap. I need you to clean your armpit and put some of that natural deodorant on before we walk out this house. And he laughed so hard on my couch, he thought it was the funniest thing. I'm not playing with you. If you don't put that on your arm, you got to go.
A.J. Holiday
You gotta start talking to him like, that's your son. Get your ass in that bathroom.
Tammy
His arms, like, spread out on the top of my couch. Like, the spot where his arms was, was stank. I was in there, like, scrubbing the couch while he was in the bathroom.
A.J. Holiday
You got this funky as hell, zinging. All right, y'all, let's get this, yo.
Tammy
Oh, my goodness.
A.J. Holiday
All right, so I don't know if y'all saw this guy. He's an actor, Jamal Willard. He played Biggie on a Notorious B.I.G. movie. And he was recently on this podcast, and he has some choice words to say about, you know, it's the ongoing conversation in the black community, right? And how a lot of these guys prefer others over black American women. Because, see, in this conversation, he was also confusing race with culture, right? So it just sounds like he would date anybody but black American. He. He mentions. He says, I was dating outside my race because they were doing things better than my race. Willard further clarified his viewpoint by stating that he believes some African American women have high expectations of men, comparing his experience to dating women of other races, which he means is culture, right? One thing I do remember him also saying is that these other women, right, of other cultures or other races. Like he said, you don't got to do much to get treated like a king. So what I'm hearing is y'all just want a lot of, like, y'all just want to do a lot of bare minimum mediocre, and you still want to be treated like a king. And I feel like part of this conversation is also still a lie, because these other cultures, these women expect to be Taken care of by men.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
You know, even the poorest of them, you're going to have to do something for them. So really, what are you guys saying?
Tammy
Right. I agree. Now, I do think that we. We as black women also need to. It's a lot of men saying that we're too hard. Right? So too hard on them. We're too hard on them. We don't treat them like kings. We don't make them feel appreciated. And I think we need to take a deep dive into that and look at ourselves. I mean, because a lot of us, we come from strong, independent women, you know, that. That characteristic has been attributed to black women since I can remember. So maybe we could be a little softer, you know? But I think it would take our black men to help us get into a soft space, you know, like, we haven't been allowed that luxury of softness, you know? So you get with us and you like, oh, she too strong. She too opinionated. She's not submissive. But we haven't been allowed that luxury. I feel like, you know, so, I mean, there might be some truth to what he's saying about us just a little bit. Not. Not to the point. Now, there are a lot of niggas who just don't want to be accountable, don't want to be responsible, and. And they put it on us. But I feel like there is a little truth to us needing to. I know. Especially speaking for myself, I'm hard on these niggas sometimes. I know, like, especially my mouth. And sometimes I could say it, I'll look back and I'll be like, damn, I could have said that different. I could have said that nicer. I could have said that with more grace. You know, I could have gave this nigga a little more grace. But I be expecting them to. I be trying to hold them to the same standards I hold myself. And I'd be hard on them when they not. Like, why do you don't think exactly like me?
Dr. Umar
No.
A.J. Holiday
Okay, so you finish. Because what. So here's the thing. This is how I feel. Like, none. I. I agree partially, Right. And then this is just based off my experience, right? I always be saying, like, how I am not a nice person. I am a good person, right? So when you're a good person, a lot of nice things come out of that, right? But my experience, men don't want you nice and they don't want you nasty. It's like, you have to have a nice little median, right? Because men do want boundaries, just like children. They don't want somebody they can run over, but at the same time, you know, they. They don't want somebody nagging them, per se.
Tammy
How do you find that? How do you find that medium?
A.J. Holiday
You can't find the median is what I'm trying to get to. Right. The people who choose to intermingle just have to be on the same page. You know, I think that men like stronger men. They don't mind a woman who has a mind, who, who can think, who can produce, you know, all these characteristics that they attribute to masculinity. And then you have a whole different list for femininity. I feel like you have to have a mix of all those things to be a whole person. So we complain about black men a lot. Black men complain about women a lot, about black women a lot. And I feel like we do the work a lot of the times. I feel like we do the work on ourselves so that we can show up better in the workplace and relationships and friendships. I don't feel like men do the work at all. Right. And then they want you to use their traumas and the things that they've experienced in life to justify their behavior towards you. And that's not fair. So black women have a lot of trauma. Black men have a lot of trauma. I would prefer to be with somebody who could, who could relate to me. Right. I wouldn't just go and date another culture. You know what I'm saying? I've spoken to white men. I've dated a white guy before, like just going out and shit like that. And I don't. It's just different, you know? And then on top of that, the other part is, like, just even having kids with somebody outside your race, like, I want somebody who looks like me.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
So I feel like a lot of these, y'all go have the babies also because y'all, y'all are insecure about your. About how y'all look. So you want to make sure you don't replicate yourself. So this should just get real, real deep. This weekend, sitting in this spot, a little 36 year old came over to chat. He's asking me if I'm submissive, do I let my man lead all these things? I'm like, listen, I need you to get off of YouTube, okay? You want some red pill? I said, are you a samuelite? Because you're coming over here like, what a dude? Samuel, the guy who passed away?
Tammy
Yeah, yeah.
A.J. Holiday
You coming over here, talking to me, asking me all these podcast questions. I am a real woman, right. And I. I Cook, I clean, I pack bags. I do all those things. Right. But I have to feel loved to do those things. If I'm not feeling loved, you're going to. You might get a little bitch. You might, right? And I think men respond better from bitches. Like, you get better treats when you treating a man bad. Sometimes, I swear to God, they do not like nice women. They run over nice women, and then you go cuddle up under the bitch. So you gotta have like, you cannot let these niggas get away with anything.
Tammy
Yeah, Literally, I had a conversation with someone. I was like. He was like, don't talk to me like that. And I was like, look, when I was saying it nice. Last week, you did some bullshit and then ended up having to apologize. Now when I called you a motherfucker. No, you did it five minutes later. You know, you did. You did what I was asking in five minutes. But last week I was doing the same thing and being calm and pleasant and peaceful people. And you never did this, you know, and then you said, I apologize this week, same scenario, but I call you a. And you did it in five minutes.
A.J. Holiday
Men learn from hurt. They learn from pain. They learn they really gotta bump their heads before they actually do the thing. So it only becomes nagging when I.
Tammy
Gotta keep asking my mama having the same conversation with me. The same conversation, your children, several times when I said, get your ass up and wash the dishes, you went and do it. I shouldn't have to talk to you like that to get you to do things. And I. And it's. It was. I could remember my mama having that conversation with me as a child. And I'm having the same as a child.
A.J. Holiday
So these are grown men we're dealing with who have the same characteristics as children. It can get pretty frustrating. They call it nagging. I call it why the fuck you ain't do what I asked you to do the first time? Because if you ask me to do something as an adult the first time, one time, that's all it takes. I'm going to do it. I'm going to abide by whatever it is that my mate wants. But you got to ask them a thousand times about some shit or at.
Tammy
Least communicate to as to why I'm not doing it in this moment, you know?
A.J. Holiday
Right.
Tammy
One of the two.
A.J. Holiday
It's emotional intelligence is just lacking, you know, amongst the black community. And it's just easier to go and date somebody who's not familiar with your bullshit. So go ahead and do it. And furthermore, the comments was eating his ass up. Somebody who must be dated him, which I also personally know somebody who dated this Jamal Woolard. Okay. And her comments were he better worry about his diabetes and taking that insulin because that dick ain't dicking. And then another girl in the comments was saying she went out with him and she had to wind the windows down because his breath was so funky.
Tammy
Damn.
A.J. Holiday
You might want to go get a. From a third world country to deal with all that stupid next on a docket.
Tammy
Lord have mercy.
A.J. Holiday
God damn. What do you call them? Passport, boy. Passport. Passport, bro. Going about your business.
Tammy
So do you want to go with the. Because we 30 minutes in already. Let's talk about Caleb Wilson in the hazing death. Let's carry on with these full figured Dr. Umar Blaine. Baby mamas, we being real shady today. I'm sorry.
A.J. Holiday
I love it.
Tammy
Dr. Umar said he wasn't about to choose who to spend the rest of his life with just because of a pregnancy. And then call his baby mamas arrogant for expecting marriage after having his child. So it goes on to say. It goes on to say. So let's get this straight. You didn't know them well enough to marry them, but you knew them well enough to get them pregnant. Make it make sense. And you know, I hear this a lot. I hear like guys be ready to I put a baby in you right now, but will you marry me right now?
A.J. Holiday
Right.
Tammy
No, that's just. That's. That's too much. That's a commitment. A kid is not a commitment. I feel like a kid is a huger commitment. That's a lifetime commitment whether we like each other or not. It seems like you would want to marry me before the kids, but no. Feel like a kid is much less of a commitment than marrying you.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah, so it says that he. No, I watched the video. I saw this video. He actually said if they were a little bit more patient, he probably would have married either one of them, you know, because they had it. They did have a child for him. And it's very telling when a man only has girls also. Okay. You know, he's probably a womanizer. So he's saying they weren't patient enough. And I guess probably giving him ultimatums and things like that. Like you literally disturb these women's peace by giving them a child that they have to be the primary caregiver for while you on the Internet for how many years now talking bullshit. The more Dr. Umar be having some good points within. Sometimes that nigga shows up, right? That other nigga. I don't know what his other name is. I know Umar probably ain't his first name. Okay. It just shows up, and I just have the Nike check lip looking at him, like, just, ugh. Okay. Because why. And you know, women, we got to take responsibility. And at this, you know, point, too, like, yeah, we know what should be hitting for before we get pregnant oftentimes. And we think that. I don't even want to say this, that it's a conscious thought that we think this person is going to stay. But in the moments these men are telling you they love you, they are saying they want a child with you, and the baby comes and they just flip a switch. It's like you're unattractive now that you have had a baby.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
And I just got to wait. I got a child to think about. Like, you know, that's. That's really when women just walk away. Because now you are not the most important thing to me.
Tammy
Right.
A.J. Holiday
I don't. I don't really have to. I don't consider you that much anymore because something else now is trumping me. Fighting for a relationship of, you know, pushing for marriage from you and a.
Tammy
Child, like, will either bring y'all closer together or split y'all up. Now. It'd be hard. I. I had someone say that to me, that him and his girl, they. They got three kids now. And he was like, man, them kids really, like, changed it. Like, she lost herself, I lost myself, and we lost each other in the midst of trying to raise these kids. And it's difficult.
A.J. Holiday
That's why you have to really be in love with the person you have in a family with. You know, I didn't hear him take any accountability for creating these broken homes yet. You're always talking about the black family structure and what we need to do better in the future. And you created two broken families.
Tammy
Yeah, yeah.
A.J. Holiday
Shut the fuck up forever, Dr. Umar.
Carlos Miller
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Tammy
But maybe I. So I try to give grace. Like, maybe he's speaking from a place of grown kids knowing after the fact, you know, how, like, sometimes you gotta go through it to, you know, know better. Yeah, that's. That's what I have to, you know, attribute it to.
A.J. Holiday
Like, well, don't be pointing your finger at people who kind of doing the same thing when you did the same thing. Finally find a more graceful way than also to talk to your male counterparts.
Tammy
Yeah, okay.
A.J. Holiday
Because you really be talking real greasy whole time. I didn't even know he had children.
Tammy
Like how we try to do on this show, we don't be trying to run nobody down. Be better than what I was, you know, the hell.
A.J. Holiday
Who knew he even had kids until his daughter went live the other day.
Tammy
Right, right, that part, yeah.
A.J. Holiday
Slum dog. Anyway, y'all, we got to get into today's episode. Y'all, listen, I am on a super duper holistic kick, okay? Kind of started at the beginning of the year. So now I've recently added my colonics back to my regimen and I used to get colonics all the time years ago but they, they were much less expensive in the Midwest. Down south is like only a few people that do them. So they just. The prices, the prices are just outrageous. But I want to talk about shit. The shit we keep the shit we need to let go.
Tammy
When you come back.
A.J. Holiday
When we come back after this commercial.
Tammy
All right. We gotta pay for this shit. We'll be right back.
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Tammy
First of all, before we get into this, I Want you to know how close AJ thinks that we are, clearly, because she sent me three shitty videos over the weekend. And look at her dookie. Yeah, that's how close we are. Apparently. I was, and then here I am, like, oh, that was a lot.
A.J. Holiday
Oh, all of that was in there.
Tammy
Oh, wow. Maybe I should do that, too. Oh, we should talk about this.
A.J. Holiday
That was the purpose of doing that. I sent that shit to a lot of people. I sent that shit to a lot of people.
Tammy
You are very comfortable. I would not send my dookie all over the place like that.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah, I have. Okay. So when I went to Puerto Rico one year, my homegirl, Shelly, birthday. Hey, Shelly. We went to Puerto Rico for her birthday one year, and the whole time we might have been there for, like, four days. I never used the bathroom until the night before. We were flying out and I let out the biggest piece of shit I had ever seen in my life.
Tammy
We talked about this. You sent me that, too.
A.J. Holiday
So every year on her birthday, I send her that picture of her dookie. Law. This is 2000. This is 2000.
Tammy
I hate you.
A.J. Holiday
11.
Tammy
This girl gonna send me her dookie every day. My birthday is crazy, because when I took.
A.J. Holiday
When I. When I did, I'm like, shelly, you want to see this dookie is so big. She was like, yeah. She ran in the bathroom to see. It was, like, wrapped in there like a snake. I felt so relieved, though.
Tammy
No, I saw in the salon lofts, when I was in salon lofts, there's barbershops and there's men salons in there. And this man came out of the bathroom before me, and I guess he didn't flush. It was the biggest turd I ever seen in my life in there. I didn't even know dookie could be that big. And it was the width. It was so wide around, I was like, oh, my God. Somebody. Like, I was about to throw up. And, you know, I had just. I haven't spent time around a lot of men. I haven't lived with a lot of men in my life. And my dad and my mom had a separate. I never was in their bathroom. So if he left a turd, I never got to see it. I did not know a dookie could be that big.
A.J. Holiday
I can't say I've ever seen a man, some man poop either.
Tammy
Like, bruh, that log, Good God.
A.J. Holiday
It was a whole size of his large intestine probably.
Tammy
It was like the size of my forearm, y'all. Like, that's how wide that log was around.
A.J. Holiday
Interesting.
Tammy
Good God almighty.
A.J. Holiday
That thing open. He loose. I don't know what it is, but it's loose.
Tammy
It was. It was a solid log, though. I was like, I didn't know this could happen. All right, but get into your.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah. So I want to talk about colonics and just like the, The. The holistic benefits I have at lunch. I'm sorry if y'all are. But I do suggest because, you know, because I don't even eat like the hard, harsh meats, right. I mean, seafood is. People may consider seafood to be no different than eating steak, but I do. Right. As easier to digest. So imagine that I'm not even eating all this crazy ass meat. For real. I do eat seafood occasionally. Well, a couple of times a week. But I had actual parasites come out. So I started on. Yes. On the window. In the window. So I. So I actually ordered detox. Like, not a detox, but a. Like, I guess essentially a dewormer, right. Parasite cleanser from Jamaica. And I had been putting off taking it on taking. Had been putting off taking it. So I finally took it on Tuesday. I scheduled the colonics for Wednesday. So before I would like, separate the days, like, I'll go, like go once a week or something like that. But if you get a colonic, do that shit three consecutive days minimum. The first day was just like loosening some shit up, right? And I had to use the bathroom immediately after. And it.
Tammy
It.
A.J. Holiday
You could tell it was some old coming out. Okay.
Tammy
I've been saying you were full of since 2021.
A.J. Holiday
Everybody full of. That is the point, right? So everybody is full of. So then day two was like, oh, shit. Like it's really moving. That's the videos you seen. Like, shit is. Shit is going down.
Tammy
All of that coming out of you.
A.J. Holiday
Yes, yes. Day three, it was more of that. So I guess the first day, like, loosened things up. Day two was day three, child. The parasites. Yeast was coming through the window.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
So you know those sugar cravings you be having? Craving for bread, the gluten, the carbs. That's these little in your gut telling you to eat these things. And you know those tapeworms could even get to your brain.
Tammy
Well, you look like brighter up under your eyes too. I don't know if they have my skin.
A.J. Holiday
Yes. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, my skin looks better today. I looked in the mirror yesterday. I'm like, damn, my skin look clear as hell. Like in a real way. Just that quick. I can see it and I know I got some more shit to let go. And I'm saying, but I'm talking about other things too.
Tammy
Your eyes look brighter, and I just thought maybe you took a shot to the face over the weekend, but look at you. It was. You got rid of all that shit. Amen. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
A.J. Holiday
Not a bit. You like toes come in the face.
Tammy
Y'All. I did not.
A.J. Holiday
I probably suck toes. Said something.
Tammy
I never put that foot in my mouth. I did not do that.
A.J. Holiday
Shame. So I wanted to more like. Okay, so women in particular, like, we hold a lot of. I hate. I really want to just discard the term trauma, and I know I've said it three times on this episode, but we hold a lot of, you know, ill energy in our gut, right? So when you look at like, your chakras and stuff like that, that's your solar plex, like the. The space in between, like your breastplate and your abdomen. Like, so we're hold all of that. We're just holding on to things since forever, right? Bad energy, bad relationships, job stress, all the things. We're literally holding onto it in our. In our guts. So doing like a spiritual cleanse along with a. Like a real detox and adding this to it, you'll probably have a lot more mental clarity to actually deal with with life at that point. But I don't think people, a lot of times, they really don't connect the two. So some practitioners believe that colon cleansing can help to release stagnant energy and toxins, which may contribute to imbalances. In your manipara chakra is what it's called the solar plex. And there is scientific evidence also now, you know, doctors, they want you to be alive and sick. So your. Your. Your primary healthcare doctor probably won't be the person to suggest to you to go get a colonic. That's why we're here. Okay. Because they want you to keep coming just to get medication when a lot of time, even with mental health issues. Like, one of my friends, she's starting her own clinic and she wants to do, like, more holistic approach to mental health. She's a psychologist, and I'm trying to link her now with the lady who did my colonics. Chucktown Colonics. Holly at Chucktown Colonics. She's a fun time. I actually was trying to get her to come on a show, but she's afraid to talk for whatever reason. Girl. Yeah. So we could have had like, you know, the actual professional, but I'm linking them to so they can do some referrals because really, mental health starts in the gut Too, Everything. All diseases. You know, a lot of people haven't have a breast cancer diagnosis now. Lupus. When I first started colonics in St. Louis, Missouri, the hydrotherapist, she showed me pictures of how she was wheelchair bound, like, on her, you know, last leg, literally, when on no leg, you know, and she started studying veganism and she started getting the colonics done on herself. So now she has a. Has a clinic. But the colonics actually saved her life.
Tammy
Damn.
A.J. Holiday
Just cleaning her gut because we have years and years you. You literally can have some in there from five years old.
Tammy
I. I haven't. I had one before. I did a colonic when I was living in Atlanta. That was the last time I did that, and that was 2010. So I know I got some. I need to let go.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah. And even when I used to get it, still, it depends on who's doing it. I did not have these results. You know, I've always still felt sluggish this time of day. Right now, I would be wanting to lay down or taking energy drink to stay up in the afternoons right after a meal. You should not be sleepy. If you eat anything and start feeling sleepy immediately after, you probably should never eat that thing again. I love Chick Fil A French fries, and one day I ate that shit and almost fell asleep driving home.
Tammy
Damn.
A.J. Holiday
So I stopped eating them because why the hell do I feel this sleepy? This is the only thing I've ate today. Why do I feel sleepy heading home?
Tammy
I like. I like being. I like going to sleep.
A.J. Holiday
I can't say that. I'm gonna make some T shirts that say, I love to lay down. I do love to lay down.
Tammy
I enjoy a good. Like, nothing makes me happier. So when food does that to me, I'd be like, yes, put me down. Put me down.
A.J. Holiday
That's not good. Like, you know, food's supposed to give you energy, not take it. So if you eating a lot of foods, that's just taking energy. You probably shouldn't.
Tammy
First of all, I heard that Girl Scout cookies got like.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah.
Tammy
Some really toxic bad in it.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah. BJ bought two boxes in here, and I did not open them. I said, hey. I said, those cookies don't. This is before those articles came out. I said, those cookies ain't taste good in years. Like, I never buy Girl Scout cookies. Cookies in years. Like, a long time.
Tammy
I run a Girl Scout down. Like, where is these bitches at?
A.J. Holiday
Really?
Tammy
Outside. Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
Cookies haven't been good at least since I was a kid.
Tammy
I fuck a box of Samoa.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah. So they got hard metals, all these crazy ass toxins in them.
Tammy
A thin mint. Hate to see me coming.
A.J. Holiday
So let's get into what a colonic is. So it's a colonic or a colon. Hydrotherapy is a procedure where warm filtered water is gently, gently flushed into the colon to remove build up waste and toxins. Is done by a trained professional, used using a closed system. So she has, lady I had, she has like a reverse osmosis machine. So this is going to get you the best alkaline water possible, right? So the waste is removed through a tube, ensuring a clean, odor free process. Some people compare it to an internal shower for your digestive tract. And it is this, it is safe to do multiple days consecutively. Also the digestive system and waste buildup like the colon, your large intestine is responsible for absorbing water and electrolytes while forming stool. So over time, undigested food toxins and mucus can build up. Especially with a poor diet and high processed foods. Now we in America, I don't know, for whatever reason, people been hating on rfk, but he, you know, he's in charge of the health now and he wants to take all the bullshit out of foods. I remember like a couple years ago Burger King put an article out saying that they were removing like 140 ingredients. Ingredients from their burgers, from their food. It's supposed to be beef. What other, what else, what else should be added to that, right? Like why do french fries from Chick fil A or McDonald's have all these other chemicals other than potato?
Tammy
Right? And grease? That's really all you need is yes, potato and grease. But they got all these preservatives in it to make their product last longer so they can sell it for longer.
A.J. Holiday
You know, is it really to last longer or is it really to make us sick? Because really the companies, the restaurants are in cahoots with the pharmaceutical companies. So the more we eat the bullshit, the more we got to go to the doctor for diabetes and insulin and all the things and stay on medication. So the, the whole system needs to be dismantled as far as I'm concerned.
Tammy
I agree.
A.J. Holiday
You know, because even the word organic isn't what we think it is. Like you can have like a, let's say you got a whole.
Tammy
They lie to us about everything.
A.J. Holiday
Everything.
Tammy
I want y'all to know that a lot of that, that say human hair, I need you to know.
A.J. Holiday
It'S not because I'm battling a closure right now on my other wig, like why is this hair so ratty on this closure and the rest of the hair is fine, like the bundles is fine. But that closure is definitely polyester blend. It's polyester because after a while that you got to just throw that shit in the trash because you start getting nappy at the.
Tammy
At the grid. At the root.
A.J. Holiday
At the root. So. So how does detoxing work? The body naturally detoxifies through the liver, kidneys, colon. But lifestyle factors such as diet, stress medications and environmental toxins can slow down these processes. Colonics and detoxing support the body's elimination process by helping clear out old waste, bacteria and toxins. And this can lead to better digestion, improved energy levels and it just to reset your gut. Micro mic. Micro. What's the word I'm trying to say? You know it.
Tammy
I don't know what the fuck you talking about, Michael Jackson.
A.J. Holiday
Hold on, let me get the science. See, that's why we needed the professional on, right. You got to do it yourself sometimes. Hold on. Reset the shit in your gut. All right, so you know better. Better digestion, improved energy levels and just like to reset all the good bacteria in your gut again. People don't associate like the, the. Do people even think about the when. When they're sick?
Tammy
No.
A.J. Holiday
I remember as a child, my mama, like if I'm sick, the first thing she would ask me is when the last time I had a bowel movement. So I think innately, right. We know it, but it may not just be conscious.
Tammy
Like I always. Yeah, I don't specifically think about my. First of all, I'm extra regular. I go at least.
A.J. Holiday
But just if you. Just because you go, that doesn't mean you're right.
Tammy
Now that stuff that's just lodged in my colon and intestines is not coming out. But what I'm thinking about is when I get sick, I just want to fill up with fluid. Flush, flush, flush, flush. That's what I think about. I don't think about like necessarily my poop, but do I guess water help you do that too though, right?
A.J. Holiday
Yeah, warm water. Like when I first wake up in the morning, either I'm doing a tea or I'm just doing a cup of hot water. Like just six ounces, six, eight ounces of water, you know, because people wake.
Tammy
Up and I would say warm lemon water is the best way to start your day.
A.J. Holiday
Or key lime. So now we wake up and America has trained us that you have to have the three meals a day. So you're waking up doing breakfast, but it's break Your fast, right? So you've been sleep for eight hours. Hopefully you guys get, I don't know, five to eight hours of sleep. I try to stop eating at 8 o'clock and I might not have my first. I might not have my first meal. And so. And this is just natural. I don't be intermittent. Intermittent fasting at all. It's just naturally, I don't want to eat breakfast. Like, I feel sluggish after I eat something in the morning. So just a cup of water is all you need really.
Tammy
First thing I do when I wake up is think about what I'm about to eat. I just. I just. But I don't think it's because I'm hungry. I just think it's. You're bored. Yeah, it's a mental thing. I just associate life with food, you know, so.
A.J. Holiday
Yo. Yeah, like about food, I'm tired of thinking about.
Tammy
I was talking to my mama. I was like. She's like, I just don't know what to eat. I don't know what to cook. I don't want no more of this. I don't want no. I was like, God, need to come out with a new me.
A.J. Holiday
They got some human out there. You want some human?
Tammy
I. Y'all already think I suck toes. I ain't eating no people. I ain't never liked the that much shame.
A.J. Holiday
So some of the common myths and facts about colonics, some people think that you're going to flush out all the good bacteria. You know, it's not like dishing, you.
Tammy
Know, when you do shaku, they don't dish no more. This don't exist no more.
A.J. Holiday
Do it dish for your vagina.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
Yes.
Tammy
They still sell that?
A.J. Holiday
Yes, yes.
Tammy
You still do that?
A.J. Holiday
No, but they definitely still sell douche.
Tammy
Well, I remember, like, I remember my mama used to have that little bottle, little holes on the top, and she'll leave it in the tub sometime. And I remember filling it up with water and squirting it in my face. And she like, no, give me that baby. That's not a toy, man.
A.J. Holiday
You've been stupid your whole life. Your ass crazy, man. What the. I might do. I might dish maybe one to three times a year. And you know, it's usually after a cycle, you know what I'm saying? So dushing isn't a bad thing. But if you have to always dish your vagina, you might need to go to the doctor because there's a reason why you squirt and stuff up your coochie and you figure out why you think you need to be doing that so frequently?
Tammy
The vagina is such a very sensitive.
A.J. Holiday
Mine is very sensitive. That's why I can't do nothing with it.
Tammy
Yeah, yeah.
A.J. Holiday
It's like, you know, and then, you know, young girls, young girls, young girls listening to this show, you know, it does take some time to learn how to care for the vagina.
Tammy
It does.
A.J. Holiday
And adding all them extra shit to it is just gonna mess it up even more. It is a self cleaning organism. Okay? So if it's not cleaning properly, make an appointment to go to the doctor. Microbial.
Tammy
Did you hear that?
A.J. Holiday
It just finally told me how to say the word microbium.
Tammy
If you listen to your coochie. A little twangy right now. It's okay, baby. We all been there. Just go to the doctor, figure out why it's doing that. Or if you already know, do the things to get it together.
A.J. Holiday
And usually the things to get it together is stop fucking on that man. Okay? Because he's mixing your bacteria and somebody else shit and just going back and forth in between y'all. So a lot of times or changing your soap. I personally only Soap will really do you in. Yes. I only use dove white soap. And then I don't like, put soap in my vagina.
Tammy
Right.
A.J. Holiday
You know what I'm saying? So you can clean the labia and stuff like that, but you don't want to get it inside the.
Tammy
It's hard to not though. I'd be feeling. I'd be struggling not to, like, get it inside me, you know? Like I'd be struggling because I'd be down there scrubbing that thing. So.
A.J. Holiday
Girl, I must have put the Dr. Bronner's peppermint one on there once. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Tammy
Yes. That's how them. Dumbass. What's the pads by?
A.J. Holiday
Oh, hot pot. Hot pot, Hot pocket.
Tammy
That's what they need to call them. What is it called?
A.J. Holiday
What is it called? I use them.
Tammy
My friend encouraged me to get that and I put that on. I was walking down the street.
A.J. Holiday
I like them.
Tammy
It burned. No, that burned my coochie up.
A.J. Holiday
It doesn't after a while. So once you use them more often, it does help with the cramping and stuff like that.
Tammy
Baby, I took that off and went in the bathroom and put a water tissue up there till I got home. Because ain't no way I'm gonna have this fire shooting up my all day. No, ma'am. What's this called? Something hot.
A.J. Holiday
Some. Some pot.
Tammy
One of them honey Pot.
A.J. Holiday
Honey pot. That's what it is. Honey pot.
Tammy
Call it hot pot because that burns.
A.J. Holiday
She said she loves. Yeah, because it's like eucalyptus and stuff. It's like herb. Herbal infused pads and. Yeah.
Tammy
Somebody else.
A.J. Holiday
I like it. Yeah, she loves it.
Tammy
It start.
A.J. Holiday
It does soothe it when you first start using it. Of course, it's like your body is like your body gets used to it and I promise it really, really does help with cramps and stuff. But I started talking about vagina just to say like Dushan, I'm not. Excuse me. Dushan and colonics is just not the same thing, okay? You are not going to wash away the good bacteria by getting a colonic. So that is not the truth. The fact is, while some bacteria are washed away, a healthy diet replenishes beneficial gut flora. Many people take probiotics post colonic for balance. Yes. A good probiotic is always necessary.
Tammy
Oh, I like that. Olip have one of those every now and then.
A.J. Holiday
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I use those.
Tammy
Yeah, it's like a little soda, but it's a probiotic good too.
A.J. Holiday
Tastes right. Another myth is the body detoxes naturally, so colonics aren't necessary. And the fact is the body does detox naturally, but due to modern diets and lifestyles, it can sometimes use extra support. Just like a car benefits from an oil change. Like our, like 2025 is not the same as 1925. You know, the food is different, the air is different, it's more people. It's just more and more and more. Like our parents were skinny. Do we. Do you remember seeing pictures of real fat people back then?
Tammy
No, everybody was smaller. And the sizing system, like the size 2 now is a size. Was a size 4 back then. So they even changed the sizes to reflect how fat we are to make us not feel as fat as we are.
A.J. Holiday
And it's really just in America. So while we supposedly, supposedly have the best medical system, we have the sickest people in the world in America. Imagine that.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
Okay. Another myth is colonics can make the intestines dependent on them. I feel like maybe I used to take a lot of, a lot of diuretics, like a laxative and stuff like that. And I do feel like I might have my gut health up a little because I wasn't using the bathroom like I should. So I was using laxatives. And then it almost seemed like if I didn't use a laxative, I didn't, I wouldn't go at all.
Tammy
Yeah, right.
A.J. Holiday
But what the diet, if you Use.
Tammy
The rose too much, you're not gonna come with a man.
A.J. Holiday
Yes, yes, Tammy, that's exactly what we can liken it to. Yeah, you right, girl. Always right.
Tammy
I'm using that thing all the time, y'all.
A.J. Holiday
But okay, so it says. The fact is, when done properly and not excellent excessively, colonics can help train the digestive system to work more efficiently, not weaken it. I'm gonna give y'all my. I got a whole diet regimen I created out of vitamins and the ship and working. I use the bathroom at least twice in the morning, at least twice in the evening, you know, after I eat. That might be why my skin is.
Tammy
A little bit clear. I don't know. Go ahead, girl.
A.J. Holiday
I had no come on me in a while. I'm. I'm gonna be honest. Okay, okay, Girl, I had come nowhere on me in a long time, so. I don't know what you talk about, girl. Did I delete my. Just.
Tammy
Now I'm gonna get one.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah.
Tammy
I'm gonna get on Groupon for mine. You rich. I ain't. I can't. I ain't got 300 to invest in dookie.
A.J. Holiday
It's not that expensive, first of all.
Tammy
You said it was.
A.J. Holiday
300 was 275. That's for three sessions.
Tammy
That's 300.
A.J. Holiday
What else do you. Let's run down what you be spending money on, how much you spend on damn Uber eats a week, girl.
Tammy
My yo business.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah. Why you full of. That's the problem.
Tammy
I. I doordash, first of all. And okay, I do. I have been getting meal preps, so I have not been spending as much on doordash. But in New York, I don't have a car, so doordash is more convenient.
A.J. Holiday
But what happened prior to now, because you only been in New York about two months now, right? A month and a half. We talking about last year, the year before last, the year before since Doordash was created. Basically. How much money. How much salary have you paid them people that you can't pay this money for your health?
Tammy
I put somebody through school. That's all I'm gonna say.
A.J. Holiday
And then you have an autoimmune disease, right? So I think this would be.
Tammy
I don't. I don't claim that I don't have that.
A.J. Holiday
Well, there's. There's this. There's this audio autoimmune disease in the air and that.
Tammy
They. They keep saying that.
A.J. Holiday
No, I really don't believe you got that.
Tammy
Me neither.
A.J. Holiday
I don't believe it. I Don't believe it.
Tammy
I feel okay, but okay. Yeah, but I do want to get one. But I'm gonna look on Groupon and there's.
A.J. Holiday
Well, that's why I found my place in St. Louis. Like I do Groupon all the time still to this day.
Tammy
Because I don't want to pay 300 for Dookie. Just sound crazy.
A.J. Holiday
It's not for dookie. It's for your life, it's for your health. It's not just for dookie.
Tammy
Yeah, but if I can get my dookie out for cheaper, I'ma do it.
A.J. Holiday
But to me, like honestly, I have been getting colonics and this is like the cheapest it's probably gonna get. Honestly, 80. 80 some dollars per session is the cheapest you gonna get.
Tammy
I seen one on Groupon right here in Brooklyn for 45.
A.J. Holiday
Oh, oh, well that's Brooklyn because it's probably a lot more places, a lot.
Tammy
Of places to do it.
A.J. Holiday
Oh, okay. Well, yeah, go get. Go get your ass clean up for 45.
Tammy
I'm gonna send you a video, a video of my dookie too.
A.J. Holiday
And I love to see it.
Tammy
Okay, I got you.
A.J. Holiday
I like to see. I want to see you let that go.
Tammy
Yeah, I'll let it go.
A.J. Holiday
Okay.
Tammy
With all the other. I didn't let go.
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A.J. Holiday
All right, so these are just some of the benefits. And I kind of already went over like we, you know, been talking about it at nauseam at this point. So increase energy levels and mental clarity. Skin benefit benefits clear complexion, weight loss and bloating reduction. So before y'all go get that WeGovy Ozempic, all that shit, try to clean your damn stomach out first. Okay? Because really, you know what she told me? She said a lot of her clients have been coming and they, their stomach is messed up now after having taken those medications because really it's starving you so they, their bowels aren't working as it like, like it's supposed to at this point. And a lot of people have stomach issues after using Ozempic.
Tammy
I just feel like anything that you take in. You ever watch them drug commercials and they'd be like the people all smiling, walking down the street and they got this is a medication is for psoriasis. But then the person all the side effects, all the side effects. It's like, goodness, is it even worth it to take any of this? You're going to create a new problem fixing 1.
A.J. Holiday
The weirdest thing is about like when you tell somebody about a supplement, a natural something, they always question it. But you get all the side effects of all this your doctor give you. You take it willingly, you don't care.
Tammy
I'm just not a fan of no drugs.
A.J. Holiday
Me neither.
Tammy
This week. That's it. That's the only thing I like. Everything else, I'm like, I'm scared.
A.J. Holiday
And then also it says a boosted immune system. And another benefit is emotional and mental benefits of letting go physically and metaphorically.
Tammy
Okay, so yeah, let that go, y'all. I encourage everybody to go get their booty sucked out and not the way you used to, you nasty ass.
A.J. Holiday
And just imagine be licking ass. You got parasites back there, right?
Tammy
Remember we thought I talked about that. I knew somebody who went to. Yeah, they self in the hospital for two weeks from eating booty hoe.
A.J. Holiday
Yes. So yeah, like everybody has parasites. You just don't want to over growth or a real life infestation of these things. Even with like the yeast, you know, sugar feeds all of these things. So if you think you just a sugar addict and you just like liquor so bad because that's just straight alcohol you probably need to clean your fucking gut out.
Tammy
I'm gonna go do it. I'm gonna. You have inspired me to go clean my gut out and see what comes out of there, because I do love.
A.J. Holiday
Sugar, and I need a whole lot of gang.
Tammy
When I was young, I did not care. Like, I wasn't a sugar person. I remember being a kid, I. I always been built like this, right?
A.J. Holiday
Just a little thicker and whole life, for real, man.
Tammy
Whole life. And I remember being at kids birthday parties, and they cutting the cake, and they'd be like, you want to slice the cake? And I'd be like, nah, give me another one of them hot cake hot dogs. Didn't want no cake. I wanted another dog or a burger Hearty. And that's. But once I got, like, late 30s, something changed, and now I would rather just have desserts and no meat.
A.J. Holiday
I like fresh baked goods. I don't like packaged items. So, like, you talk about the girl stuff cookies. Like, damn, my imma go make some from scratch. Or, like, you know, buy, like, some organic cookies from Whole Foods to cook, which I just realized because I read a pack the shit got GMO from Whole Foods. What are y'all doing? Us?
Tammy
Ain't nothing.
A.J. Holiday
Whole nothing. Anyway, yeah, y'all let that shit go. If you want mental clarity, right? If you want to feel better about life and living, it starts with the shit in your stomach. Before you can let go of that man, before you can let go of that job, before you can let go of them bad relationships, girl friendships, whatever it is that you need to let go. It starts with the gut.
Tammy
And see y'all dookie videos to aj. She want to see it.
A.J. Holiday
And if y'all want to see my parasitic videos, I'll send it to you. If y'all want to see this video, I guess a million of them online. But if you want to see one for somebody that you semi know, I'll.
Tammy
Send it to you.
A.J. Holiday
I'll send you this.
Tammy
Don't ask to see my dookie. I'ma do it, but don't ask.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah, let that go. We're gonna end that. I said, like, maybe 100 times on this episode, but after this commercial, I got a simp story.
Tammy
Okay? Okay.
A.J. Holiday
All right, y'all, we'll be back.
Tammy
Listen, y'all need to rewind this episode. Listen to it from the beginning with your friends, and take a shot every time AJ Say y'all gonna be up. You might be in the hospital. Don't do that. Never mind. All right, we'll be right back after this commercial.
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A.J. Holiday
Easy way to say this, but look, you're a sif. All right y'all see, we're back. Look, this is not a SIM story that somebody sent. This is some I saw online.
Tammy
Okay, let's hear it.
A.J. Holiday
Let me read it right quick. So it says, bruh, I did some dumb, took my baby mama to Atlanta, went to a swingers club and turned up bruh. Bruh, me, her and a fine ass red bone turning up. I'm done. I done tapped out. I caught me two good ones. I'm drained. This big black six foot six muscle head nigga came over and wanted to join them and I had to agree because that's what we talked about beforehand. This was both on our bucket list. Not getting too graphic, but follow me. We had a towel on. I'm not the smallest down there. No diddy, I'm a good 7 plus plus inches. This dude pulled out an elephant trunk and laid it on the other girl's forehead. I told him, you're not putting that in my girl. This heifer said, I want it. I took the hardest swallow and said, okay. I had to watch my girl get slaughtered. I even went over there while he was doing it and rubbed her forehead to tell her it would be okay. She was yelling, begging for me. She was in a zone. And I checked out mentally. It's okay when we do it, but that right there. Nah. Fast forward to this morning. I woke up this morning in the mood like any guy would. I went over to her and started to strike it up with her. This motherfucker said, not right now. I'm still sore from this weekend. He said, who the fuck says that? He said, I can't get what I want because she's still sore from this motherfucker. Real shit. I thought I could take it, but this entire experience turned me completely off. I want to break up with her, but I love her. I just don't think I could get ever get back to where it was. Any advice? Why are you referring to her as your baby mama? First of all, y'all obviously live together with a child. That's already weird to me. And now y'all are introduced, swinging basically into the relationship. And you can't handle a swinging. And he probably was the one that suggested it. I bet you.
Tammy
Exactly. He wanted to do it. Ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun or.
A.J. Holiday
So y'all got some advice? You got some advice for him?
Tammy
I don't know what to tell this.
A.J. Holiday
Like, I just think he should delete this. Never say that again.
Tammy
Right?
A.J. Holiday
That's the only advice I got.
Tammy
Just tell nobody and just throw your energy. Break up with her because she got better than you could her or harder or bigger than you could do. Like, that's not a. I mean, you can't believe her because of that. She didn't cheat. You probably suggested this.
A.J. Holiday
Yeah. You set her up. If he leave, he really set her up. I can understand what he's saying. Like, once somebody do some. Like, even if you might have been okay with it, it's like, I just can't look at this no more. I understand, but no, my. You set her up for the okie dokie. If you leave her with a child because y'all. You introduce. You let her introduce some dickens. So y'all went to the swingers club and you were just supposed to do a threesome with her and another woman, but obviously you okayed her getting slaughtered by another man if it came up. And the big dick came up. How you mad?
Tammy
I Could feel that because. All right, this was a long time ago, y'all. This is.
A.J. Holiday
Here she go on some.
Tammy
And I was dating this guy, and I liked him a lot, but he said he just wasn't a big. Big on kissing. And I'm. I love. I'm a kisser. Like, we need to be kissing. You need to tone me down. So finally he was like. We started kissing, and then he started. He sucked my tongue, but he was sucking it like a dick. Like up and down on my tongue. And then I ain't like him no more after that. Just that quick was over. Why are you sucking my tongue like a dick? Ew. Get off me. I'm a call to my.
A.J. Holiday
Can't do nothing without being gay. What? Why he can't be sucking it like a clit. I like my shit suck. Not like all aggressive now, but like a low. Yeah, I like that.
Tammy
Well, yeah, I should have said.
A.J. Holiday
And that's what the. The rose do.
Tammy
Yeah.
A.J. Holiday
Okay. What is foolish? You are foolish.
Tammy
Foolish. So, yeah, you can set up some that you don't and find out you don't like it. But I hope y'all stay together because we don't want no more broken families, especially based off some like this. This is. You can get past this, sir. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna have to just.
A.J. Holiday
Don'T do it again. You can't handle it.
Tammy
You just gonna have to cheat like the rest of these if you want. Y'all, we get the worst advice.
A.J. Holiday
All right, y'all, listen. If you enjoyed this, y'all tune in every Thursday on The Black Effect iHeartRadio app, wherever the you get your podcast at. This is your co host, AJ Holiday 2.0 on Instagrams. Follow me now if you won't get on y'all. We got T shirts and trying to get some other little merchandise made. If you're interested. You know, check us out on We Talk and you can reach the. You can get to the YouTube page and all the things. Our website is very nice. Go over there. It's we talkback ent.com.
Tammy
Yeah, go check us out. We up there. All right, I love y'all.
A.J. Holiday
Remember, speak now and never hold your. Let it go. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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Prohibition is synonymous with speakeasies, jazz flappers, and of course, failure. I'm Ed Helms, and on season three of my podcast, Snafu, there's a story I couldn't wait to tell you it's about an unlikely duo in the 1920s who tried to warn the public that Prohibition was going to backfire so badly it just might leave thousands dead from poison. Listen and subscribe to snafu on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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What's up y'all?
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I'm AJ Andrews, pro softball player, sports analyst and the first woman to win a Rawlings Gold Glove on my new podcast, Dropping Diamonds. We dive headfirst into the world of softball by sharing powerful stories, insights and conversations that inspire and empower. It's time to drop bombs and diamonds. Dropping diamonds with AJ Andrews is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Athletes Unlimited Softball League and Deep Blue Sports and International Entertainment. Listen to dropping diamonds with AJ Andrews on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.
Debbie
Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you?
A.J. Holiday
Why is my cat not here and I go in and she's eating my lunch?
Debbie
Or if hypnotism is real, you will.
A.J. Holiday
Use the suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control.
Debbie
But what's inside a black hole?
Young Pueblo
Black holes could be a consequence of.
Tammy
The way that we understand the universe.
Debbie
Well, we have answers for you in the new I Heart Original podcast Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Ham as we answer questions about animals, space, our brains and our bodies. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to science stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
A.J. Holiday
Love at first swipe? I highly doubt it. Reality TV and social media have love all wrong. So what really makes relationships last?
Tammy
On this episode of Dope Labs, poet.
A.J. Holiday
And relationship expert Young Pueblo breaks down the psychology of love and provides eye opening insights and advice we all need. It's a big realization moment that you should not be postponing your happiness. Like your greatest happiness is not necessarily going to like come from a relationship. You're partner, they should add to your happiness, but your happiness is really coming from within you. Listen to Dope labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Podcast Summary: We Talk Back – Episode: "Let That Ish Go"
Hosts: TamBam and A.J. Holiday
Release Date: March 20, 2025
We Talk Back, hosted by TamBam and A.J. Holiday, dives deep into the complexities of modern womanhood, particularly within the Black community. In the episode titled "Let That Ish Go," the hosts explore themes ranging from relationships and societal expectations to holistic health practices. This summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn throughout the episode.
A.J. Holiday and TamBam kick off the episode by sharing personal anecdotes that shed light on the intricacies of relationships, especially between Black women and men. They candidly discuss societal pressures, personal boundaries, and the challenges of maintaining healthy relationships.
A.J. Holiday shares her experience reconnecting with a friend and navigating social scenes:
"I was outside with some girls. I reconnected with one of my friends, Courtney. We went to the hood, and it's hard being the cutest people in the fucking club." [03:56]
TamBam addresses rumors and misconceptions about her personal life, emphasizing honesty and setting boundaries:
"I never put that foot in my mouth. Let's let that go, okay?" [02:44]
The conversation transitions to the broader topic of expectations Black women face in relationships. They critique societal standards that often label Black women as "too strong" or "opinionated," advocating for a balance between strength and vulnerability.
"We haven't been allowed that luxury of softness. Maybe we could be a little softer, you know?" [19:30]
Notable Quote:
"Men do want boundaries, just like children. They don't want somebody they can run over, but at the same time, they don't want somebody nagging them." – A.J. Holiday [22:24]
A significant portion of the episode delves into holistic health practices, particularly the use of colonics for detoxification. A.J. Holiday shares her personal journey with colonics, discussing the benefits and misconceptions surrounding the practice.
A.J. Holiday explains her regimen:
"I'm on a super duper holistic kick... I recently added my colonics back to my regimen. I had colonics three consecutive days to effectively cleanse my gut." [33:16]
TamBam shares her past experience with colonics and emphasizes the importance of gut health:
"I did a colonic when I was living in Atlanta. That was the last time I did that in 2010. So I know I got some stuff I need to let go." [46:54]
The hosts discuss how modern diets and lifestyles contribute to toxin buildup in the body, advocating for practices that support the body's natural detoxification processes.
Notable Quote:
"You want mental clarity, right? If you want to feel better about life and living, it starts with the shit in your stomach." – A.J. Holiday [69:07]
Dr. Umar, a guest on the show, presents his views on the dynamics between Black men and women, particularly criticizing Black American women for having high expectations in relationships. A.J. Holiday and TamBam engage critically with his points, offering counterarguments and personal insights.
Dr. Umar argues that some Black women have "high expectations," making relationships challenging:
"Some African American women have high expectations of men, comparing my experience to dating women of other races." [19:30]
TamBam acknowledges some truth in his statements but emphasizes the need for introspection and mutual understanding:
"We need to take a deep dive into that and look at ourselves... a lot of us come from strong, independent backgrounds." [19:39]
Notable Quote:
"Black women have a lot of trauma. Black men have a lot of trauma. I would prefer to be with somebody who could relate to me." – A.J. Holiday [21:41]
Throughout the episode, the hosts offer pragmatic advice to their listeners based on their discussions. They emphasize the importance of self-care, setting boundaries in relationships, and prioritizing mental and physical health.
A.J. Holiday advises maintaining personal boundaries to foster healthy relationships:
"You gotta have like, you cannot let these niggas get away with anything." [24:37]
TamBam underscores the necessity of self-respect and communication:
"You got to communicate why I'm not doing it at this moment." [26:56]
The conversation also touches upon societal influences on personal well-being, urging listeners to adopt practices that enhance their overall health and happiness.
In wrapping up the episode, A.J. Holiday and TamBam reiterate the central theme of "letting go" — both physically and metaphorically. They encourage listeners to release stress, unhealthy relationships, and toxic habits to achieve personal growth and well-being.
A.J. Holiday ties together the discussions on gut health and emotional clarity:
"Everything you need to let go starts with your gut." [70:47]
TamBam emphasizes the importance of personal responsibility and self-care:
"I encourage everybody to go get their booty sucked out... clean your damn gut out first." [70:56]
Final Notable Quote:
"Let that go. We're gonna end that. I said, like, maybe 100 times on this episode, but after this commercial, I got a simp story." – A.J. Holiday [73:05]
Balancing Strength and Softness: Black women are encouraged to embrace both their strong, independent traits and their vulnerability to foster healthier relationships.
Holistic Health Practices: Colonics and gut detoxification are highlighted as essential for mental clarity and overall well-being, challenging conventional medical approaches.
Mutual Understanding in Relationships: Open communication and mutual respect between Black men and women are crucial for overcoming societal pressures and personal traumas.
Personal Empowerment: Letting go of toxic habits, relationships, and stressors is vital for personal growth and achieving a balanced, fulfilling life.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
"We haven't been allowed that luxury of softness. Maybe we could be a little softer, you know?" – TamBam [19:30]
"Let that go. We're gonna end that. I said, like, maybe 100 times on this episode..." – A.J. Holiday [73:05]
"Everything you need to let go starts with your gut." – A.J. Holiday [70:47]
"Men do want boundaries, just like children. They don't want somebody they can run over..." – A.J. Holiday [22:24]
"Black women have a lot of trauma. Black men have a lot of trauma. I would prefer to be with somebody who could relate to me." – A.J. Holiday [21:41]
This episode of We Talk Back offers a candid exploration of the challenges and triumphs faced by Black women in navigating relationships and personal well-being. Through personal stories and critical discussions, TamBam and A.J. Holiday provide listeners with valuable insights and actionable advice to achieve self-empowerment and holistic health.