What separates the people who keep going from the people who quietly give up? In this conversation, Dave Johnson sits down with Rocky and Cheryl Detweiler for an honest talk about mindset, attitude, and the choices that shape a life.

Drawing from their book The Samson Effect, they unpack a simple but powerful idea: your thoughts become your words, your words become your actions, your actions become your habits — and your habits become the way you live.

The conversation moves through Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning and the one freedom no circumstance can take from you, the freedom to choose your own attitude. Rocky shares two personal stories on the power of forgiveness, and Cheryl shares the turning point where she decided to step fully into the work instead of watching from the sidelines.

A conversation about personal development, resilience, belief, and building something that matters — one decision, and one conversation, at a time.

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