I Was Abducted by Aliens

Summary

Podcast Summary: “I Was Abducted by Aliens”

Podcast: We're All Insane
Host: Devorah Roloff
Guest: Michelle Larson, Quantum Energy Healer
Date: September 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the extraordinary life of Michelle Larson, an energy healer specializing in deep quantum healing. Michelle opens up about her lifelong experiences with otherworldly phenomena—most notably, a series of alien abductions from childhood onward. She candidly discusses the impact these experiences had on her, how they've shaped her sensitivity to energy, her spiritual development, and ultimately, her calling to help others through energy work. The conversation, raw and detailed, covers trauma, spiritual awakening, developing psychic gifts, and essential tools for protecting one’s energy in the face of the unknown.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Childhood: Night Terrors and Missing Time

• [01:27–03:20]
  Michelle recounts fragmented childhood memories: constant fear of flying objects, inability to sleep as an infant, and recurring night terrors. She would awaken in different parts of the house, such as the basement, with no one hearing her move—something her family couldn’t explain.
• Quote:
  "I'd wake up in the basement just screaming bloody murder... Nobody in the house... could hear anything... It's so weird that this would happen."
  —Michelle ([02:05])

2. Unusual Out-of-Body Experiences

• Michelle recalls, even in school, being able to “zoom out” of her perspective mentally—what she now realizes was a form of astral travel ([03:34–04:16]).
• "I was actually, like, zooming out of my body. I just thought it was this weird, cool thing I could do with my eyes."
  —Michelle ([03:34])

3. Growing Sensitivity to Energies

• [05:23–07:17]
  As Michelle matured, her sensitivity to energies in spaces—especially in her first house with her husband—increased. She noticed shadows, sensed spirits, and observed her dog react to invisible presences, feeling validated when others finally observed odd events.

4. The Revelation: Alien Abduction Confirmed

• [08:07–09:01]
  After consulting with an energy healer (recommended by a friend), Michelle receives confirmation of her abduction experiences.
• "She said, 'You've been abducted by aliens.'... That actually felt so true in my body... My whole life made sense."
  —Michelle ([08:07])

5. Connecting Psychic Gifts to Abductions

• It's suggested Michelle’s gifts—her “bright light” or “starseed” soul—drew the attention of other beings. Abductions, often marked by implants or experimentation, are explained as attempts to access or heighten such gifts ([11:13–11:39]).

6. Navigating a Spiritually Active Home

• [14:05–17:58]
  A complex period follows: portals in the house, recurring spirit/paranormal activity (including a spirit bound to the home), and attacks shifting from Michelle to her dog, and eventually her children. Michelle learns more about spiritual boundaries, spiritual hygiene, and the importance of energetic protection.

• Quote:
  "She [the dog] would chase these energies out... She was kind of like our little radar detector."
  —Michelle ([17:19])

7. Motherhood & Escalation of Spiritual Warfare

• When Michelle becomes pregnant, attacks intensify. Her healer explains “grids” and portals attracting different groups or ETs, and how past-life trauma can create access points for negative entities ([18:09–19:34]). The family lives under siege for years, with sleep disturbances and eerie events impacting both Michelle and her children.

  • Quote:
    "My son was definitely having night terrors... it was like 20, 30 minutes trying to get him to come back... He's totally being attacked from all these different levels."
    —Michelle ([35:06])

8. Plant Medicine: Uncovering Abduction Memories

• [37:22–43:51]
  A pivotal healing experience is Michelle’s use of psilocybin/plant medicine with a shaman. She relives her abductions in vivid, terrifying detail while in an altered state, understanding they began at 18 months old and continued through early childhood.
• "I relived all of my abduction experiences in that night."
  —Michelle ([41:52])

9. Types of Encounters and ET Motives

• Michelle describes a variety of beings, some “gray” aliens with long fingers, some human-looking, some associated with underground bases or ritual-like environments ([46:13–48:05]). She describes both benevolent and nefarious reasons for abductions: from starseed DNA monitoring to outright energy harvesting.

  • Quote: "The gray aliens have worked themselves out of reproduction. So some believe that they're a future version of humanity... So they need this fresh human DNA."
    —Michelle ([49:34])

10. Learning to Protect: Transformation of Healing Practice

• After years of disruption, Michelle learns to work safely as a healer—shorter sessions, sacred/secured space, energetic shielding. Once she makes these changes, the attacks and disturbances vanish.

  • Quote:
    "It's been completely closed up for me. Didn't have to move houses, didn't have to do any of that... I’m not waking up to ships outside my window."
    —Michelle ([73:07])

11. Spiritual Hygiene, Intuition, and Grounded Living

• Michelle emphasizes the importance of grounding, not outsourcing power (e.g., to crystals or practices), integrating rather than escaping, and always trusting your intuition—even in small moments ([63:11–76:35]).

  • Quote:
    "If you can do that, you start to build that trust with yourself... We need more people doing it in alignment and with strong conviction and trust in themselves."
    —Michelle ([76:00])

12. Navigating Spiritual Psychosis

• Discussion turns to spiritual psychosis—losing touch with reality through overindulgence in spiritual pursuits. Both agree on the need for balance: embodying both the “meat suit and soul suit,” grounding oneself, and not chasing spiritual “badges” at the expense of lived, human experience ([77:00–84:05]).

• Quote:
  "If you pour yourself too much into humanity, you're checked out. If you pull yourself too much into spirituality, you fry out your system... The point is to embody the spiritual nature of our soul and the human being that is our flesh."
  —Michelle ([80:37])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Alien Abduction Realization:
  "She said, 'You've been abducted by aliens.'... My whole life made sense."
  —Michelle ([08:07])

• On Psychic Gifts Attracting Abduction:
  "They'll get abducted... because they're bright light. They want to harvest or use their gifts and abilities."
  —Michelle ([11:39])

• On House Activity:
  "There were only certain spots they could kind of access, which we later revealed were because of portals underneath of the house—six of them, which crazy. It was insane."
  —Michelle ([15:17])

• On Plant Medicine Revelations:
  "I relived all of my abduction experiences in that night... they’d bring me up, they’d torture people, they’d make me watch, see if I could stop it... and then they'd send me back down."
  —Michelle ([41:52]–[43:51])

• On Balance and Groundedness:
  "The point is to embody the spiritual nature of our soul and the human being that is our flesh... You need to have this base... find that balance."
  —Michelle ([80:37])

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Key Timestamps by Theme

| Segment/Event | Start | End | |-----------------------------------------------|-------------|-------------| | Childhood anomalies & night terrors | 00:58 | 03:20 | | Astral traveling & psychic gifts as a child | 03:34 | 04:24 | | “Haunted” house and spirit/alien activity | 05:23 | 17:19 | | Validation from energy healer—abduction | 08:07 | 09:01 | | Intensity of activity after childbirth | 18:09 | 22:00 | | Effects on her son; multi-generational impact | 26:28 | 35:54 | | Plant medicine/psilocybin journeys | 37:22 | 43:51 | | Types/motives of ETs, abduction revelations | 46:13 | 50:33 | | How Michelle shifted her healing practice | 57:10 | 60:32 | | Gaining control: confirming healing | 73:07 | 73:12 | | Spiritual psychosis & integration | 77:00 | 84:42 |

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Practical Takeaways

• Spiritual Boundaries Matter: Simple curiosity or openness can invite unwanted energies. Regular cleansing, intentionality, and protective rituals help.
• Listen to Your Intuition: Even seemingly mundane urges (like bringing an onion to a friend) can be meaningful; trust and honor your instincts.
• Ground Yourself: The healthiest spirituality is lived and embodied, not merely “out there.” Avoid extremes—don’t get lost in spiritual rabbit holes or cling to “badges.”
• Integration is Key: Trauma, extraordinary experiences, or gifts can be alchemized into positive force when balanced and used with discernment.
• It’s Okay if Not Everyone Gets It: Michelle normalizes the taboo around talking about the paranormal or spiritual, encouraging listeners to be true to their path.

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Resources & Connect

• Michelle’s Instagram: [Details in episode notes]
• To share your own story: [e-mail] or podcast form [link in description].

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Tone & Listener Experience

This episode is open-hearted, matter-of-fact, and welcoming—Michelle and Devorah speak as equals, dig deep but never sensationalize, and repeatedly underscore the universal need for self-trust, discernment, and balance. Michelle’s story, while extraordinary, offers insight, hope, and practical tools for listeners who may struggle with their own unusual experiences or sensitivities.

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“You just get to, like, wake up a little bit more, and next time, you're not going to doubt yourself… There are so many ways—it’s that serendipitous little tiny connection.”
—Michelle ([76:41])

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Transcript

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[Michelle Larson]

Hello, I'm Michelle Larson and I am an energy healer. I do quantum energy healing in very deep realms. And my experience that I'm going to share here is kind of what brought me to that depth of healing that I provide for others. And then also my childhood experiences that really made that crystalline.

[Interviewer]

Yes. I'm so excited.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. People were like, why are you going out there? And I was like, talk aliens.

[Interviewer]

Yes. I love it. I'm so excited. All right, where does it begin? Tell us.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. So my story, from what I can remember of childhood. So my memories of childhood are very. Were very splotchy, but they didn't really make sense. So I was very scared of anything flying above. I hated sleep, even as a baby, never slept. And so my, my mom was just like, whatever. You just didn't sleep. You were nothing like your sisters. You just go in there, you're wide awake, et cetera, et cetera. And then kind of came in, like the weird nervous, not sleeping things. But then like, night terrors were happening a ton. And I would. We grew up in like a two story farmhouse with a basement.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

And we slept on the top level. And like, I'd wake up in the basement just screaming bloody murder.

[Interviewer]

So you would wake up and you were like, kind of like you slept walk and you would end up downstairs, basically think, okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So we think, yeah.

[Interviewer]

And okay. No one see anything.

[Michelle Larson]

Not really.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Not really. This is where it was like, kind of weird, but it was just these weird little, like, things that like, just happened to me, you know, it's like none of my other sisters had it. Like, I was the only one who had night terrors. And they're very different than nightmares because you're, like, in a full state. Okay, so like a nightmare. You're kind of just like, oh, like, I'm kind of shook, and that was scary. But you're kind of like, all right, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. A night terror. You're like, I can't even tell where I am. Where's my body? Where's, like, what room am I in? I have no idea. And nobody in the house. It's like 100-year-old house could hear anything. They're like, Nobody heard doors or stairs. Like, they're like. It's so weird that this would happen. So this is kind of like this pattern. Like, you hate sleeping. You keep having these night terrors. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You have all these other weird things that nobody's talking about. Especially in the 90s, nobody validated anything. You don't talk about anything. Then kind of fast forward to. Oh, man. When would this be around? When my husband and I bought our first house, it was a very active, spiritually active household.

[Interviewer]

So there's a whole gap where nothing happened.

[Michelle Larson]

Not. Yeah, okay. Not memorable.

[Interviewer]

Did you kind of just grow out of the night terrors, would you say?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, they definitely, like, went away for a while.

[Interviewer]

Got it. Even.

[Michelle Larson]

Even though, like, I was still very deeply fascinated with, like, what's in outer space, and now I know I was, like, astro traveling. Like, I just sit in class and, like, zoom all the way out and just, like, go float up in space because I'm, like, bored of whatever we were studying at the time. Now I'm like, oh. I was, like, actually, like, zooming out of my body. Like, I was leaving to just, like, float around. But I just thought it was, like, this weird, cool thing I could do with my eyes.

[Interviewer]

That is crazy. Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So that pattern had stuck through all of. All of grade school, even in high school. Like, I would just sit and kind of like, oh, I'm gonna zoom out. And sometimes I could just zoom, like, way out of a room and shrink everything. And sometimes I could zoom out of, like, buildings and then go up and up. And so that was always just like.

[Interviewer]

I don't know again, that was, like, a norm to you?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, I was like, nobody's talking about it. Like, nobody's asking. Like, I just thought this was the thing everyone could do.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

So huge gap goes by. But definitely, like, always had that weird fascination with, like, what's out there. Like, my third grade birthday party, which I never had a birthday Party. But, like, planned one for third grade, which is funny. My best friend and I wanted to do, like, fake alien abductions. So we were like, this is gonna be so funny. We're scare. Everyone never had it. But my favorite shows were, like, the X Files and, like, just all the weird shows that you probably shouldn't be watching when you're, like, 10 years old. But, like, yeah, okay. It's like my favorite shows. So then flash forward to, like, early 20s. I think that'd be about the right time frame. A lot of spiritual stuff started happening again. So we bought our first house. Then I was seeing more things. And I'd always had, growing up, a sense of energies where I'm like, that house is weird. That basement's weird. Like, why do I always feel like I have to run out of there? Like, this just isn't. Something about that space is just not cool. Not vibing, but whatever. I'm just gonna, like, move on or just, like, stay awake. And so I just wouldn't sleep at friends houses either.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Which I kind of got uninvited to a few friends houses because of that. They're like, this girl's so weird. She didn't sleep. What the heck is going on with this girl? We can't invite her over. Freaks us out. Which I didn't know until, like, five years ago that parents, like, kicked me out kind of because of that. They're like, don't invite her to the cabin. She doesn't sleep.

[Interviewer]

Like, so would you just, like, lay there awake?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, okay. Or I'd go, like, wander around or.

[Interviewer]

Just, like, do your own thing.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, lay on. You know, if we're at someone's cabin, like, I'd LA on the dock and, like, stare at the stars. Or just like. I don't know.

[Interviewer]

You would think, though, that, like, instead of somebody just being like, oh, don't invite her, they'd be like, are you okay? You know? No, I guess not. I guess, like you said too, if, like, with the time being, you know, when it was people really, I guess, wouldn't ask or speak up. And I mean, even now, some people still wouldn't.

[Michelle Larson]

I know. So that's sometimes where I. Where I look back on some of these things where I'm like, if my nieces or nephews were doing these things, would I be like, is everything okay? Or like, do you notice this pattern with. With so and so and so and so? Like.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, just to, like, figure it out. Why not? Yeah. Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. So then we move into this house. It's super. I'm like, I'm seeing shadows. I'm seeing figures. There's weird things. I can sense stuff. Like, at this point in my astrology, there's like a ton of like, alien hits and things and activities to which I have no idea about. I didn't even think. I think I knew my zodiac sign. That's about as far as I, like, got into the spiritual realm. And I knew crystals and like tarot cards. It's like, about it. But like, I was seeing these things, sensing these things. I'm like, this is weird. And then it just started to get, like, weirder. And we got a puppy. Like, we already had our one dog, but then we got another dog. And she was super aware of like, everything that was happening. She would chase spirits. She would like, pin on something and then like it. Unless I saged or like, commanded it out or did. I'm like, this is so weird.

[Interviewer]

Now. Did you have. Were you just having these experiences and kind of going about your life or did you. Was it kind of interrupting your day to day in the sense of. Did you kind of feel like negative energy and darkness when you would come into contact, I guess, with these things?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, it definitely was disruptive to life because it'd be like, oh, we're just hanging out. And they'd be like, whoa. Like, yeah. And only the dog and I were the ones noticing it. Okay, so like, our older male dog could have cared less, huh? Still could care less. My husband was kind of like, I don't know, maybe that was the wind that shut that. Maybe it was like, okay, a shadow or the sun. And we're like, both her and I are like, hair up. This is weird.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Michelle Larson]

And the first few, like, occurrences of it weren't super nefarious or scary. They were just kind of like, that's weird.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

They don't feel good. But they weren't like, I feel threatened either. And so then that was kind of interesting. Had an energy healer from like, a friend of a friend who's like, oh, you got to see this person. Like, we. We saw him after her husband died and like, you know, you should have her do a reading. And then it was inside of that, she's like, oh, I don't. I don't know how to say this to you, but, like, you've been abducted by aliens. And I was like, what do you. What do you mean? Like, that actually felt so true in my body. It wasn't like, oh, we're just going to tell you, project you something. But I was like, oh, I can actually line up my whole life and see how that makes sense. Where I was like, oh, would that be like. She's like, it started really early. Like child. She's like, how was your sleep? How was your this? How was you that? And I was like, let me tell you. Like, I didn't sleep. And I hate. I still don't like sleep, you know? Like, I really hated it. And I was like, I had all these night tours, all these things. And she's like, yeah, that's when it started.

[Interviewer]

And I was like, so did she give you an explanation of anything, or did you have to kind of dive in on your own?

[Michelle Larson]

The only thing she told me at that time, like, one. She was kind of like, oh, okay, I'm glad this isn't throwing your whole world off kilter. She's kind of like, oh, like, it made my whole life made sense. So I was like, oh, like, I get it now. Like, maybe I'm not crazy. Or maybe I am crazy, but for a good reason. You know where I'm like, okay. But she just said, like, they were testing you, and so they were, like, taking you up and making you watch these things and testing you, and then they'd send you back. And I was like, well, that makes sense. Cause, like, I was continuing to come back, but, like, definitely had that fear of things flying over. Just, like, wasn't like, I really couldn't trust. She's like, safety is such a big thing for you. And I was like, what is safe? Like, what is safety? I don't know what that is like, in any realm, you know, like, and there were so many things physically happening in childhood, too, that just kind of coupled in that, like, physical, emotional, spiritual, just, like, shut down. You're just like, I don't know what safety is.

[Interviewer]

Right?

[Michelle Larson]

So then flash forward to when all this is happening in the house. She's kind of like, you're in this weird portal where, like, they're. They're trying to communicate again. They're trying to, like, kind of get access to you. But in this house, there's some spirit that was bound to the house to protect it. So she's like, this is our first. Like, we got to clear this and move this. And so I had so many sessions with her, like, trying to get this house, like, settled and figured out. And we released that spirit who was bound to protect the house against her free will, which I now know. Back then, I didn't know. I was just kind of, like, weird. She was Bound to the house. Like, should we have left her there? If she was protecting it, like, why was she protecting it? But I'm like, oh, it's against her free will. And that's like, it's not universal law. You can't do that.

[Interviewer]

So let me ask you a quick question.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So I think I kind of. I have my own thoughts on it, but I think too, just to clarify, for some people, so what happened to you when you were a child was being abducted by aliens? Do you think that that's why you were able to do, like, the zoom out thing and kind of you were more sensitive to spirits and stuff? Or do you think naturally you just kind of had that?

[Michelle Larson]

I think that it is probably because I had those gifts that I was targeted.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So kind of like, oh, we see, like, you could think of it as like a light. Like, oh, we see this bright light, like starseed. We see this, you know, trend. Not, not like transcended soul, but starseed soul from somewhere else came and dropped in. Let's. Let's see what we can do with them now that they're in their human form. Let's see what's going to happen here.

[Interviewer]

Got it. Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So I think that they're. They're fully related in that way more than like, oh, like, I have an implant that they put in. Cause that's something that I have seen with certain clients is like, they'll get abducted for whatever reason, usually because they're bright light. And then they want to, like, harvest or use their gifts and abilities. So they'll put an implant in there, and then it heightens everything. Like, they can kind of dial that sensitivity up or down based on the group that installs it more than the individual.

[Interviewer]

And then my second question. That made sense. Thank you.

[Michelle Larson]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

My second question was when you started having the experiences with the spirits in this house, those spirits, were they separate from the aliens? Two different things.

[Michelle Larson]

The first, like woman spirit or lady spirit that was protecting the house was completely unrelated.

[Interviewer]

So some might consider that more like ghost spirit.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And then there were other things that you were seeing that were those aliens again, trying to get back into.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, got it.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Just wanted to clarify. I wanted to make sure I'm on the same page here.

[Michelle Larson]

Got it.

[Interviewer]

It.

[Michelle Larson]

It like, moves around a lot in the story. So I'm glad you clarified that.

[Interviewer]

Yes. Well, no, because I know, like, I believe all this stuff very much so. But I know for some people, they might hear, like, alien spirit, what they might combine it all in one. But I feel like it's important to, like, understand the different aspects of things, you know, because I think. And too, so, so many people don't think this stuff is real, which is crazy to me. They think it's as simple as, like, oh, we're just human and we live here. But no. No, I don't agree with it.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. And. And to the purest of form, we're all energy. Right.

[Interviewer]

So it's like.

[Michelle Larson]

It is funny when we're like. Oh. Like, when we break it down to, like, the brass tacks, it's like, well, like, is it an alien? Is it an energy? Is it an ET Is it an alien? Is it a ghost? Is it a spirit? Like, are they. They're just energy. Yep. In that way. And so then we kind of, like, as humans, really want to put things in boxes.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

To, like, understand it more. I can handle ghosts, because that sounds like a past or a dead person. But extraterrestrial, that sounds like another planet that's way dead.

[Interviewer]

Right. It sounds like a green creature that people are like, no.

[Michelle Larson]

They're like, we think of the movie alien and, like, yeah, nobody wants that.

[Interviewer]

Exactly. Okay. So did the energy healer was that successful? Were you able to, like, clear out?

[Michelle Larson]

Yes, at least. So the first gal we did remove from the house, like, we, like, unbound her, and then. And this is where it got, like, really crazy and weird and, like, kind of, like more dark and twisted, like, in a manipulative sense, because we removed her, and then it, like, felt a little bit better. And all the while, like, I was slowly, like, getting more into spirituality, Right. Where I'm like, oh, I'm gonna start saging. I'm gonna start, like, had my first, like, oracle deck. You know what? I'm starting to play with some of these things, which, like, helped me have a better sense of, like, oh, what's going on here? I can control this energy. It was definitely a good empowerment phase, even though I was, like, constantly being bombarded with all these energies.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

But then they started to mess with the dog, and, like, okay, that was super interesting. This was definitely part of, like, you could say, like, alien attack on her. Cause it would, like, she'd be walking in the house, and there were only certain spots they could kind of access, which we later revealed were because of portals underneath of the house with six of them, which crazy. It was insane. We could not wait to, like, sell and move and, like, leave this house.

[Interviewer]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Michelle Larson]

But all the while, I'm so Grateful that, like, it really prepared me and gave me like, a full grasp of everything that's out there. But there were these certain spots in the house and she be walking and they'd pull her feet out. Like, it looked like the rodeo where it's like hog tie their feet or. And all of a sudden she just, boom, lose her feet or boom.

[Interviewer]

Now, would your husband see that?

[Michelle Larson]

He would.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

This is when he started to like, something's wrong here. Something's happening. He's like, maybe you're not crazy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, you two must be seeing something. And then he would almost come up to me and be like, it's kind of time for you to do that smoke thing.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

Do that stage out. Yeah. Like, and then we'd both kind of chuckle at different areas of the house where it's like. I don't know if you've ever smudged or saged or done any of those, but it's like, it will have, at least in my experience, have like a different life form based on what I'm clearing.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Michelle Larson]

Or I'm like, is it super smoky? Is the ember beautiful? Does the. Is my lighter lighting? There'd be some spots in the house it wouldn't light at all. Like, it'd be poof, poof. And it's like, there's nothing different about this room from yesterday, except there's just not lighting today. So we're kind of like, ooh, is that like the density of that energy? Like, what is going on here? And then she, the dog would chase these energies out and around the whole house until I, like, opened a window, cracked a door. So I was like, oh, like she's showing me, am I effectively clearing this energy or not?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

But it would keep coming back in. And I had no sense of spiritual hygiene or protection at this point. Like, I wasn't reading other people. I wasn't reading other people. But it definitely was like, wide open. Here I am, like, right, come on in.

[Interviewer]

Wow.

[Michelle Larson]

And so that was. That was some of the more like, really intense things where it was just kind of like. And then they'd wake her up at night, they'd drive her crazy. She'd bark. Like she was really neurotic.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And I feel like too, this was still like, so in the beginning for you that you probably, like, didn't even know what was really happening yet. And like, you said, like, how to protect yourself and do things. I guess.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Properly, you could say. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Michelle Larson]

Yup. So we're staging it And. And she would help me, like, move these energies out.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

And so that's. That's kind of in that, like, oh, like, I have. I have some control here. But, like, like I said, like, I don't have. I didn't have an understanding of, like, how to protect the house. And so a lot of this was, like, trial and error, trial and error, trial and error. And I'm a3.5 in human design, so that's like, it's part for the course. Like, you're supposed to just fail all the time and. Yeah, and it was just, like, keeping her up and keeping us up. And, like, constantly spirits would just, like, be waking me up and, like, either trying to hand me things or trying to, like, throw thoughts into my mind or just, like, it was just so much.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, it's a lot. It's. It's draining, I feel like, to your energy. And, you know, it's like. And especially if you're not getting sleep, I mean, everyone knows too, like, yeah, you're going to be depleted all the time.

[Michelle Larson]

All the time. And then I was pregnant with my first son, and then it was like these, like, floodgates opened of, like, onslaught. And then this energy healer again. Like, I worked with her so much because we'd see so much progress. And then it'd be like a different group or a different set or a different thing that would kind of come in again. Like, I didn't know anything about protection. So now I'm like, maybe this would have been so different.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

But I'm like, okay, this is how I had to learn how to protect. And now I can just share to protect. And maybe people won't have these experiences.

[Interviewer]

Or if they are having the experiences, and they don't really know what's going on. Right.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, hello, wake up. It's like, hey, yeah, this is real. This is happening. So when I was pregnant with him and our three souls, like, had had past, a past life together, and, like, based on the events that happened pretty traumatically in that past life, it was like an access point for these groups to, like, come in. And so they're like, oh, like, they're here. And there was, like, one prominent, like, leader of these groups. And at this time, like, this energy healer wasn't like, it's the Arcturians typically, not really doing nefarious business, but they can, you know, or like, this is the Grays or this is Reptilians. This is, you know, like, that all came much later on my path of, like, identification. Who's Doing what? Why are they doing what they're doing? Is it good, is it bad, et cetera.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

But just like, there's this group, they're kind of like, trying to box, you know, put like a grid over your house to, like, keep you guys trapped in here. And we used to call it. My sister used to come over all the time, like the Bermuda Triangle. We're like. Our brains go numb here, and we're like. We have all these beautiful ideas. We're gonna. Whatever. We get home to, like, work on them and, like, what's happening? Like, why are we, like, brain zapped out when we're in this house? Like, also weird.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

But also part of that kind of energy aspect. So before I had him, we had a ton of work. We came, the energy healer came, we saged, we drummed, we moved. Like, we tried to shut down the portals, which they kept reopening, which I now know is because we didn't go all the way back to, like, when they were established.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

It's kind of like in the. In the realm of energy, time doesn't exist. And so if you, you know, kind of like, shut something down, it could just be reopened in the time that it was opened and then like, reform here today. So it's like. Well, I always want to do things from like, rot cause moment of inception to whenever we are now in current reality, so to speak, or like, in this right now reality in that way. So we were trying to shut those down. That wasn't working at all. That felt a little bit better for a while, but still a little bit crazy. We just kind of had different hacks that we would, like, deal with these energies with. We had little, like, rugs or towels we'd lay around the house for the dog so she could walk without getting yanked out. There were rooms she just wouldn't go into. Refused to, no matter how much we cleared it. She's like, we'll not go in that room. I'll just sit here and bark if you're in there. Or, like, chase things around. She was kind of like our little radar detector.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

How crazy is it right now? How good is it? Like, is she good as long as you have those bridges up? Like, life would be good. Until they started messing with her more.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

But that was. That was like, the weirdest that it had ever gotten at that point.

[Interviewer]

And how long did that go on for?

[Michelle Larson]

Four years. Wow.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

In, like, a tight with two. Two of them. No, Maybe only, like, one and a half of them. Being with my first, kiddo, like in the house.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

And then he was like being woken up. Like, we would hear like these giant footsteps upstairs. And like, it's just the baby. You know, we're like, who else is up there? Like, the dogs are sleeping on the couch with us. We had like a split level house, so we were in the basement, like watching TV or doing something. And then we'd hear this loud noise and then we're like, baby's sleeping. Who's walking?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

What is going on? Or we'd hear him, like make noise or whatever and he'd be like, staring at something in the corner and just like shaking.

[Interviewer]

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[Michelle Larson]

So then he started to have all these really weird experiences. He talked to things. He'd get like stone cold frozen with things. Like, he hated sleep, never wanted to sleep. Like, was definitely having some sort of experience. Like, I don't know what you'd say. And then between he and the dog, they were now our new radars.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

So that was a good like two years with him around in that house. So I'd say, yeah, the full five. We had experiences, but hardcore with the dog was four. Then with him about two of that.

[Interviewer]

Okay. And then at this point were you thinking, like, we need to move out of here?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So I was like, we can't live like this. Like, yeah, one, I need sleep. I'm like, this baby's like 18 months old and like not even a baby anymore. But I was like, we are still sleeping. Like we're newborns.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And it's scary cuz you don't know if it's going to get worse or what's going to. You know what I mean? I just, I feel like it's so. It's there, but it's not like, it's not something you can directly control. It's like it almost seemed like you were able to put these band aids on it to like fix it temporarily, but then it's like it just comes right back up.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. And it, it kind of was like for the dog and I, it's like we could deal with it, but then once it started to like impact the baby, we were like, he's way too little. Like, this can't. We cannot have this like, impact his whole life and the way that he is. And we're just like, okay, what is happening?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And so, yeah, that, that went on for that chunk of time and, and that was kind of just like the little cycle we were in. It's just like you clear the house, you cleanse the house. It. It gets good for a minute and then it gets crazy and you just do it again and then it gets crazy and like, so it was helpful but not, you know, like you said, just these little band aids.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

That would kind of move on to that then, man, I'm like, then what happened? Like, we sold the house, we moved, found a new house. Like, and then everything was pretty good. But I was like, very much in this time of like selling to moving into the new one. Like, and even maybe now this had to have been once I had my kiddo. So probably a year before we sold that house, I had started to do like energy, healing and Readings. More readings than healing. But I was just kind of like, oh, basic chakra reads. And then I was seeing a ton of this stuff coming up for people. I'm like, what? Like, we're just doing chakras? Like, is it open? Is it closed? Does it have a color? You know, like.

[Interviewer]

So let me pause you.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

When you said that you would see things, like visions or what kind of, like, how would they come to you?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, a lot of visions, I guess. Like, I do have that, like, clairvoyance. My strongest psychic sense is clair. Cognizance. So it's just kind of like this knowing, and then through that knowing, I'd ask to have it confirmed through, like, a site. And so it's like, it comes in that way. It's just like, boom, like, whoa, this is what has happened to you. Or this is what's going on here. And then I'm like, confirm some sort of image that I can, like, help relate for my client.

[Interviewer]

Okay. And at this point, you're not. So were you doing car, like, the card readings too, or. This was mainly just, like, the energy reading, healing type thing.

[Michelle Larson]

Just energy reading and healing. It's crazy.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And you definitely have, obviously, a gift.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. Which had only come up in a reading with, like, another psychic that I'd had. I had an energy healer, and then, like, I had some psychic readings, and she was just like, do you know how gifted you are? Because you're wasting it. So, like, wake up, right. And start using this. Or, like, don't. But realize what. What a sad thing that is for you in this lifetime if you don't do it. She's like, it's your choice. Free will.

[Interviewer]

Don't realize, like, how powerful they really are either.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Like, a lot of people don't even realize. Like, if you just silence and listen to yourself, but nobody wants to sit alone.

[Michelle Larson]

No.

[Interviewer]

Scary for people.

[Michelle Larson]

And then sometimes you're like, when you sit alone, then you're like, Then you really do feel crazy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Whoa, whoa. I'm sensing that I'm seeing.

[Interviewer]

Right. That is wild.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I want you to do one on me.

[Michelle Larson]

Oh, I would love to. Yes. We can set that up. That would be fun. So at that point, I'd started to open that door to, like, my actual spiritual gifts and then how I can move the energy, because as I kept working with, like, the energy healer and the psychic reader, I was like, I can sense and feel this stuff. Like, nothing. You're. It's not in a bad way, but nothing that they Were showing or telling me was stuff I couldn't, like, already sense. You just can't put that, like, pulse on it. It's like, oh, oh, that's kind of cool. Then, you know, insert, like, hey, by the way, you can do this. Like, what are you doing? Pretending you can't. I'm like, okay. So I started doing that, Started seeing all these patterns, all these connections. I'm like, well, this is kind of cool. So it just was like spiritual awakening, like, in this very short and condensed, like, five years of, like, I know what a crystal is, but I can't tell you what it is. Here are some oracle cards, I think, you know, like, I use tester model from a store to like, oh, now I can read and heal energies, like, very, very quickly. So I feel super grateful for, like, that giant portal time 6 that was under that old house because it really, like, moved things fast. But then there were still a lot of, like, questions and. And the safety felt better. But it still kind of felt like this. Like, am I actually safe? Am I not safe? Like, what are we doing? The experiences for my son, like, were still happening. So there was still, like, this level of like, oh, like, the more I grew in. In sovereignty or protection, you could say it's like, why is it still happening to him?

[Interviewer]

Like, even in the new house?

[Michelle Larson]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Do you attach to him?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, it's like, did they attach to him? Is it because of things I'm doing? Is it, like, certain clients I have, maybe I should. Like, I was doing really big work at that time. I'm now still doing that work. But at that time, I was doing really big work without a lot of protection. So it's like to go in and do these, like, massive quantum detangling and kind of cut off these, like, power systems and power grids that feed a lot of these, like, I don't know, giant energy sources, you could say nefarious sources. You want to do that in a very sacred, protected, absolutely, like, short and condensed way. And I wasn't quite doing that.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And obviously that's on such a bigger level, But I don't even think people realize, you know, even that's as simple as, like, when you walk into a room and you're around people and you just feel bad. Energy, it's like it is draining.

[Michelle Larson]

It is.

[Interviewer]

And that's why, I mean, I always say to people, like, it is so, so important who you surround yourself with and where you put your energy and what you give it out to and why it's so important, too. Like, almost. I mean, like, for me, like, mentally, I kind of, like, put this bubble around me. So it's like, you know, I'm like. It's so funny. I was even saying a couple weeks ago, because I have my plant down here. I was like, damn. Like, my poor plant. I'm thinking to myself, like, everybody sitting here telling these, like, really intense stories, I gotta move my fucking plant. Because, like, people don't realize, though. It's like, it sounds funny. Like, some people that don't believe it, they'll think it's like, oh, she's a crazy person. But, like, you get it. But no, I'm like, my. Like, either my plant needs protection or she needs to go upstairs because she needs a safe environment. Because it is. It's a. It's very heavy energy. And I don't think people realize that unless. Right. Unless you do have, I think, the awareness of it and the correct way to protect yourself and your own energy. It can, like, kind of feed off you and take away from you as well.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. And it's. And it's like this beautiful fine line in, like, kind of like spiritual awareness, psychic development. Like, it's somewhere in here of, like, ignorance or fear.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And, like, it's more dangerous to be ignorant and pretend like it doesn't exist. But you can't let fear consume you either. It's like, actually, we just get to have the awareness that, like, actually, there's just a lot of, like, negative energy that comes out when we're hanging out with this person or when we're telling that story, when we're sharing this or we're doing that, like, oh, great. Now that I know that.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

I'm not ignorant to it. It's like, now I know that I don't have to be scared of it. Run and hide and cower, but I just get to, like, armor up, cleanse, do my thing. Like, I love that you even brought in the bubbling. Because it's like, one of the, like, first tools that, like, I teach anyone who's, like, sensitive at all to energy, just, like, protect your own. And it's not from fear. It's like, because you know that you are.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Michelle Larson]

It's like that I am presence, you know? Like, I am. So I just, like, keep my energy clear. And you can still feel with people. You can still be there for them. It's not like you're this stone.

[Interviewer]

It's not consuming it.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You don't need to carry other people's energies.

[Michelle Larson]

Exactly. Yeah. Like, the empath is to sponge it all up. But that's like, the bottom of the spiritual totem pole.

[Interviewer]

Right?

[Michelle Larson]

So it's like, you get to work your way up and still be super compassionate, empathetic, but without the sponge factor.

[Interviewer]

Absolutely.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, don't sponge it. Don't sponge it up. Like, no, don't take it home. Yeah, you don't have to do that. Yeah. So all of that's happening, like. And it was. It was getting pretty bad. Like, my son was definitely having night terrors. Like, by this point, I had another child. And, like, he was having experiences not to the degree that my oldest was. And it was like 20, 30 minutes of, like, trying to get him to come back. And it's like, I can tell and sense, like, he's not here, but, like, he's totally being attacked from all these different levels. And I had a few different, like, friends who are psychics or psychic readers. They're like, they found you again. You just need to move. And I was like, where are we going to move? Like, where's moving? It's not like I moved that far from our first house to the second house or, you know, but I was.

[Interviewer]

Like, still, like, I was crazy.

[Michelle Larson]

I'm like, okay. And for a while, I really believed that, like, I was like, okay, this is true. We got to, like, move to the mountains and, like, low tech. No. No anything, you know? But then I was just like, there's something that doesn't feel right in that either. But then there were still just all these, like, big question marks where I was like, why is this happening and where is this happening from? And, like, how can I do this big work while keeping my family safe? And, like, all of that was still just, like, super, super unclear. And all the while I was just like, I'm not. I'm. I'm not convinced that I have to move, but I am convinced something has to change because, like, I can't keep getting attacked and inundated and, like, waking up. And, like, you know, it's like my husband was seeing things and would have, like, these visions and images, which was cool because he was finding, like, kind of catching on.

[Interviewer]

Buddy. Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, he's like, oh, I saw this, like, little great alien. And, like, it was kind of chasing me or it was doing this, or I woke up to these or, you know, and my oldest at that point had words. He's just like, oh, like, my blue buddies. Like, my blue buddies were here last night. Or like, oh, like, not the good one. You know, like, he'd have these words for, like, what he was seeing, which is really fun and exciting to see, like, these super young psychic children. But then you're like, how do we protect yourself? Protect them? How do we, you know, like, protect ourselves? Encourage them to do it without being fearful.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

But then also you're like, okay, well, maybe don't say that at, like, daycare, because people are gonna think you're crazy.

[Interviewer]

Right. What's going on at home?

[Michelle Larson]

Right. Like, who. Who are these people that visit you guys at night? Like, well, we live with aliens. You know, it's like, okay, all right, here we go. Oh, my gosh. And so that was really funny. And then, let's see. At some point in that journey as well, I had done plant medicine. So I did, like, psilocybin. And in I did two kind of back to back. So I did, like, one on a Saturday, the next one on a Tuesday. So like a few days, buffer in between it. And then my second journey went through a whole fear process.

[Interviewer]

Can you explain what that is? Like, the psilocybin, too?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. Yep. So I did plant medicine. Psilocybin is a type of mushroom.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

And it has, you know, psychedelic components and properties. If you take it in enough dosing, like enough grams or milligrams, you can, like, elicit psychedelic experiences.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. So people will often say, like, a trip or a journey.

[Interviewer]

So were you doing this with the intention of healing? Okay, yep.

[Michelle Larson]

With the shaman with a space holder. Like, definitely in, I would say, a very well held space. Not just like, it's me and some buddies going out into the woods, alley to go to the bar, whatever, you know, like. Yeah. And I had never done anything before this.

[Interviewer]

So what was your first experience?

[Michelle Larson]

Like, the first experience was a lot of grief and anger processing. So the. The shaman that I worked with does a ton with emotions and how to really help them, like, separate and remove from the body more than just like, here you go on a cool trip, you see what you see. And, like, we can process later. She's really like. We use this plant medicine to access the emotional layers that are buried in the body and unfuse them. So I had, like, sadness and anger fused together in a lot of different ways. And you can have, you know, anger, fear, sadness, and joy are like your four core emotions, and they can be intertwined in all different ways. So my first one was like, the sadness and the anger, like, separating those. And then once enough of that cleared, then I moved into, like, more of, like a joy, more of this, like, kind of, like, angelic bliss state where I was, like, singing super high octaves. And, like, I used to sing in high school, but, like, I don't know. Like, I was also. Or soprano. Like, I was never, like, the super high soprano or anything. Like, I was like, I don't. What? Like, I can sing. Okay. That's funny. So that was the first experience, and they were kind of like, ooh. Like. And I had only signed up for one, but they were like, maybe because you're. The end of your first journey was so expansive. If you did a second journey, it could be, like, a really elevating. Like, you could maybe tap into Christ consciousness. Like, you might be able to do more, like, spiritual work or just see and play.

[Interviewer]

How long is a journal? Is each journey usually, like, how long does the medicine last in your system?

[Michelle Larson]

I think the actual medicine, if I remember correctly, only lasts, like, four hours. Maybe, like, three or four.

[Interviewer]

But I'm sure when you're in that, it could feel either a lot longer.

[Michelle Larson]

Or a lot shorter. Yeah, like, the. The more intense parts. But you're. You get there, you know, early, and you kind of, like, set your space, you set the altar, you set your intentions. You do all that. Then you, like, you know, do your first dose of medicine. You have to wait till it, like, sits in. You can choose to take more or not. And then there's, like, processing. And we went, like, well into the next day for, like, our debrief and processing, right? And then so I was like, okay, sure, I'll go into. I'll go into a second round. Like, yeah, why not? That sounds fun. Well, I did not go and play in Christ consciousness or anything like that. I actually went into a fear process.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

And inside of this, I. I got a lot of. And I remember, like, standing in the kitchen, like, and we, like, you know, you'd be like, pick out your little mushrooms, and you, like, say your little prayers to them. And I remember one of the other participants was just like, oh, like, I'm just so excited. Like, I can't wait for the journey, like, to have a good time. And I was just like, please give me what I need. And, like, we all were like, ooh, maybe I shouldn't have said that, because, like, it will, like, the medicine will bring you what you need. So I went to these fear processes, and I went into, like, four or five of them, which I guess is a lot. I don't. I don't know. I don't, like, hang out in the plant medicine circles. But I relived all of my abduction experiences in that night.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Michelle Larson]

And so, so much had. Then again, like, it felt like that. That first initial meeting I ever had with that shaman where she's like, hey, FYI, you've been abducted by aliens.

[Interviewer]

It was, like, full circle. It came back.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. Like, made sense because I. I had had, like, for a good majority of my life, weird random images, and I just could never place them.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Ever. Like, I'm like, I don't understand this. Like, is that why I'm, like, afraid of things flying over? Like, whatever. Don't think about it. Also, like, physical realm, Flashbacks, images, things like that, where I'm just, like. It's related to that. I don't know, Whatever. Leaving it there. And then this. I was like, oh, this fills in that gap because I've been, like, kind of craving, like, well, what did happen? And is it relevant for me to know for my healing, or is it not? But why is it so loud? You know, it's kind of like. Like, PTSD victims or people who, like, seek out emdr, where it's like, do you want to see or do you not want to see?

[Interviewer]

And.

[Michelle Larson]

And if you're meant to, you. You will or you won't.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

And so inside of that, we. Like, the first one that came through under the plant medicine was 18 months, and, like, super little, super baby, like, in my crib could see. And, like, I'd had probably the year and a half leading up to this, like, vivid ptsd, like, flashbacks, more than just, like, these weird images I couldn't place. And so, like, some of this gets, like, really scattered because there's so many different, like, timelines that it hops over. And then it was 18 months. And then I feel like it was probably, like, 2 or 3, and then it was, like, 5, 6, 7, 8. Like, it was just like something like. Like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And inside of those, which also echoed what the first energy healer told me. But it's like, they'd bring me up, they'd torture people. They'd, like, also abduct other people, make me watch, see if I could stop it, see if I could do things about it, which I must not have been able to. Like, I think that's why I failed their test.

[Interviewer]

I'm not sure.

[Michelle Larson]

And then they'd send me back down.

[Interviewer]

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[Michelle Larson]

Well, it was throughout the different, like visions that I'd had in, in that fear process were they were all in different locations. So some were on ships, some were like deep underground somewhere in like more like sacred sites. Some were kind of in more of your like secret society secret sites. So I was like, oh, we're in like this giant cave and this giant thing. But like I've been here before. Like what is this ritual? And what are these symbols on the wall? And I'm like, is this like, you know, is this freemasons? Is this that? You know, and like it would kind of come through pretty clear in that. But it was kind of like, oh, like this goes really deep, this goes really far underground. Or this, this one's up on a ship. Like the ones on a ship didn't feel as bad as the ones on Earth because the ones on Earth were so human like that. You're like, these are, these are like, I don't know. I feel like it was easier to compartmentalize in the fear processing. Even though it was still terrifying where I'm like, am I next? Am I not next? I'm watching my friends go away. I'm watching these people. Like there's so much of this just like. And it was such a. It like still races my heart when I think about it because it's like I definitely did not sleep or process through the rest of that night because it was like.

[Interviewer]

And these beings, like, did they all look different?

[Michelle Larson]

They all look different.

[Interviewer]

Did some look like humans?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And then like, what was the weirdest one?

[Michelle Larson]

Like, that looked like, well, the weirdest one. And this had, this was before plant medicine that had come back. And this is a type of like gray alien, but super tall and skinny and then really long and bulbing fingers.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So like they had three, this like species of it. And like in. At my parents house, I had like bunk beds. My little sister on the bottom bunk, me on the top bunk. And they were like standing super tall and like staring over me on the top bunk.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

And like you could just see these giant fingers like reaching up and in. And then at one point I'd shared that with my oldest sister just in conversation where I was like, oh my God, the weirdest like flashback memory. And she's like, I remember the whole house turning green and being frozen. I was like, what? She's like, yeah, I didn't know you ever needed to know that. And I was like, you've been gatekeeping that, right? She's like, yeah, I remember not being able to move. And like, so then we were kind of like, is this putting together like the nights of the night terrors? Is this like the whole house was frozen? No wonder why nobody could hear me, see me, sense anything.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Right.

[Michelle Larson]

Which is definitely like the. The species of gray. So like gray aliens technically are very good at abductions. So they're not always the ones who like do something with the abducted person. But they're super stealthy because they can freeze everything. They can get you in and out of there. It's just like freeze button lift down to a T. Okay. So they do it a lot. So I was like, is that why they were there? Yeah, like, I don't know. But just their. It almost reminded me of the movie signs in just like that. Tall, skinny, but less reptilian.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Michelle Larson]

More like skinny.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Weird skin looking and tall ball fingers.

[Interviewer]

Why do you think that they are torturing and doing experiments? Just to see what we're capable of or.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, there's a few different theories out there, like amongst the, you know, starseed or abductee communities of like, what are they doing? Some of it is like on a benevolent side of things. How does the starseed DNA mingle with Earth?

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

How does it do in this environment? How does it do with this level of toxicity we have on this planet? How is it doing with the atmosphere? Like, there are so many anomalies about planet Earth that everyone wants to study. And even in this is more benevolent side of it. So like a good side of it mixing different Starseed breeds and then having us incarnate as humans to see how we do.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Michelle Larson]

How do we do when we have an Anunnaki with a, I don't know, Venusian or, you know, a play, Pleiadian with an Arturian. Like, how, how do those souls do? Are they good? Okay, let's abduct them. Let's see what's happening here.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And usually those are always following, like, universal law. So it's not going to be, like, awful or traumatic because they're going to make sure you have consent. But even still, there's so many ways to bend consent. But in the benevolent side, it's not going to be awful. It's just kind of like, oh, we might, like, grab you, pluck you, draw some, you know, DNA and then see what's happening.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

We're on, like, the nefarious side. It's really to see how far they can stretch the evolution, how far they can expand genetics. The gray aliens have worked them, worked themselves out of reproduction. So some believe that they're a future version of humanity with, like, their gmo, their modifications, their genetic, like, conglomerates. So they need this, like, fresh human DNA to actually, like, create and expand their race. Otherwise they're going to falter.

[Interviewer]

So do you think that they're smarter than us?

[Michelle Larson]

I just think they're more aware.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So it's like on one hand, like, they're not trapped by, like, the Matrix, you know, like there's some of those elements as human beings we go through. Like, I, I've seen it as the Arcturian portal, but either way, we go through the veil of forgetting. So you don't remember who you are on a soul level as a human, whereas they do. And so that is like a leg up.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Michelle Larson]

It's not necessarily like they're smarter or we're dumber.

[Interviewer]

It's just like they just remember different too. Yeah. Isn't it so interesting? I always think it's so interesting how there are so many people that are so in tune with themselves and their souls spiritually. And there is some that it's almost like they're just like living in this haze of blindness of like, yeah, material world only. Like, we're just human. Like, go, go, go, go, go. But there is no depth to people. And honestly, it's crazy because, like, in a lot of people's lifetimes, they never even 1% see or reach that depth. It's so interesting to me.

[Michelle Larson]

I know. And that's kind of this great debate Amongst a lot of people, I would say more in the new age spirituality, which, like, has a lot of laws. It's like, all levels unless we can fully be, like, conscious and sovereign. But they're like, a belief is that, like, that's part of their path, is to not evolve at all.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, we kind of need the full spectrum of people.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And then there's also in this, like, planetary expansion and evolution aspect, where it's like, oh, we need 40 or 50%, 51% to tip, and then this planet evolves into 4D. But, like, some of the flaws I feel in that are. Are really that, like, we can access. It's like, different realms. We can see different realms if we're open to it.

[Interviewer]

Y.

[Michelle Larson]

So do we need to really, like, shift into 4D, or do we just need to slowly evolve and, like, the planet's not just gonna, like, change colors overnight. It's like the wizard of Oz. It's, like black and white, and then all of a sudden, it has color. Like, maybe, maybe not.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

But it does take people having awareness, opening their consciousness safely so that they're not manipulated and so that they're not, like, siphoned off of.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Because that's another part of that, like, nefarious side of things is those energies. And this is not just the grays. Like, they just want to figure out how to reproduce again.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

In a nutshell, generally speaking, you know, it's kind of like we could think of different cultures and generalize, but that does not equate for every single individual.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

You know. Or even pocket of that. Of that culture. Same goes with different ET Races, but in that nefarious side of things, like, their systems feed off of, like, parasitic energy. And so they need, like, healthy hosts, and they need energy to feed them or they will not survive.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So some of that requires people to never rise. 1%.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

In their consciousness.

[Interviewer]

Right, right, right.

[Michelle Larson]

Because they want it to feed their system.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Michelle Larson]

If we can keep them small and trapped and unaware.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. Then we. Then we have, like, free lunch.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. You're just using them as a source.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. So why would we do that? You know?

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Okay. So you had these memories of, like, it was. You said it was four different times.

[Michelle Larson]

Mm.

[Interviewer]

And this was, like, the fear part of the medicine. Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So coming out of that, what was that like for you? Was it just like, this awakening moment of, like, I feel like I know everything that happened to me now? Or, like, did you feel like you had a better understanding of yourself?

[Michelle Larson]

I feel like I had a lot. I had a few different, like, emotion states that went with it. Because on one hand, I was a little bit like, what's the point of Earth? Like, I had this really deep, like, are we truly just here to feed this bigger parasite, parasitic system? Because, like, what good could actually come from any of this? And why would I see this? And how does this make sense?

[Interviewer]

It's so temporary.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. And it's like, why? Why do souls get trapped in this loop? So I had a really deep, kind of, like, soul existential, like, is this really a slave planet? Are we really trapped here? Do we actually have power and sovereignty? Like, how can this. How can this be? And then, like, kind of once I got over that, which I think was just still lingering bits of the fear, I was kind of like, okay, this actually makes sense that I would have even knowledge of this, let alone experience of it, because this is the depth of healing I now do for people where it's like, we're breaking down these loops, we're breaking these contracts. Because the other thing, with universal law, you need consent. But it's not like, hey, do you mind if I siphon your energy for the next 10 eons? It's like, it's not that clear. It's just kind of like, do you like that sign? I love that sign. Great. That sign means I get to siphon your energy for 10 eons, and we don't have awareness to that.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So I was like, oh, this helps me break down those cycles and helps people, like, really break free so that they can evolve and we can rise, like, above these systems. So I was like, okay, yeah. Is this, like, Total Recall? Like, is this one of those moments where you're like, oh, my whole life has not been a lie, but has made sense either. Now you're like, oh, I kind of get it. And so I definitely had that going on where I was like, what's the point? No, no, I see the point. And then kind of just like. Like, that is so much to have happened, like, before 8 years old. Like.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And that's only, like, one part of, like, I feel like your experience is, like, that's like, that aspect. But then I feel like the energy healing and all the other things you experience, it's like a whole different understanding an aspect of things.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Interviewer]

It's crazy.

[Michelle Larson]

And I was just like, is this, like. Like, really is this, like, makes sense, you know? But then I was like, it actually does make sense. And I could track it back to even clients that I'd have previous to all those. Those memories coming back in where I was like, oh, like, I was in some sort of cave like that when we were retrieving that soul, or I was in some sort of, you know, ship doing this work. And, like, I'm pretty used to and familiar with a lot of ships and a lot of, like, underground work. So I do a lot of, like, soul retrievals or quite a few, like, infertility people, and we'll kind of, like, find their babies or find their, like, spirit baby, like, trapped in these little cycles and systems and things. And I'm like, oh, this makes sense. I've been there. I've been here. I like.

[Interviewer]

But you only had those abduction experiences up until 8 years old.

[Michelle Larson]

That I recall.

[Interviewer]

Okay, got it.

[Michelle Larson]

Yep. Yep.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Okay, so what happened after you did the medicine? The two different journeys.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. So after that, then I kind of. I'm like, what. What did happen after that? Like, everything unfolded. It felt like so much like introspection and really, like, thinking and then, like, really getting clear on, like, this is my soul's purpose. This is what I'm here to do in terms of energy healing. But then clearly, like, up against this world of, like, how do I keep my family safe?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

So I was like, what's. What's the breakdown? Because I don't want to leave my family. Like, and I've had past lives, like, from other readings I've had, or even, like, past life regressions where, like, I do leave my family to choose work and to do bigger work. And, like, it's like, the mission's so big, it's not safe for them. I was like, is this my lifetime that I get to break that cycle?

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

Because I get to find the way to do it. And so I changed the whole way that I was doing my sessions with people. It's like, I used to do, like, one hour zoom sessions and, like, do them pretty sporadically and just, like, when they felt better or when they felt off, you know, kind of the same way I used to manage my house where I was, like, the first house, where I was like, oh, the energy's off. We need work. Great. We'll just coast. You know, it's like Band Aid. Band Aid. Band Aid. And then I shifted to, like, this sovereign healer way, which is a way that I learned from a mentor. And it's. It changed everything because I was doing it safely. I was, like, only doing the work in one spot of my house. I was no longer doing it on zoom, trying to reiterate this, like, deep level of, like, spiritual surgery I'm doing while trying to make sure that you understand what I'm doing over here inside of one hour to, like, make you feel better for the next, like, two months, to then see you again, to, like, oh, your life's gone awry.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

So it's like actually doing longer term healing for people where it's like, okay, we're gonna work together for, like, three months, six months, you know, however long, depending on what we're working on. And then going in when I have full strength and energy, so it's like kind of on my own time. And then just like keeping them, like, fully in the loop on what's happening, but we're not over zoom. And so it was just like these couple little buttoned up things that I had to do that really just like, kept my energy full in strength.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. So you're not draining integrity. Yeah, yeah. Because you can be powerful and. And have these gifts, but still overwork yourself.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. And we see that so often with so many different healers and psychics and readers, even where they're just like, oh, yeah, if I do more than four a day, like, I'm toast for the week. Or if I do more than this many a day. Or, like, that's how I feel with this.

[Interviewer]

Sometimes I'm like, I can't do.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Three people back to back. I'm, like, depleted. I'm like, I don't know how therapists do it daily.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of, like. And for everybody, you know, it's like we all have our own little, like.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Rhythm with it, but it's like, oh, we don't have to drain ourselves completely.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

Or, you know, go live in the mountains off grid, because otherwise we're getting, like, attacked.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Oh, how can I do this? And, like, then, like, boom. It's like it stopped happening. Like, we don't have experiences like that with my kiddos. And I still get to go into, like, the super deep big work without, like.

[Interviewer]

So for you, it was just kind of creating that shift or creating that balance and making that shift in your work. So do you think maybe it was because you were just doing so much of it and you didn't really have an understanding of the protection that things were just kind of like the doors were open for things to just keep coming in?

[Michelle Larson]

Yes. And doing it in such long sessions, at least for me, with the depth that I was doing, didn't allow me to keep, like, that full shield Up.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So it's kind of like I'm, like, too busy, like, shielding myself, then doing this work, working with all the teams, doing all the things, but then being. Okay. Pause. So here's what I'm doing, you know, where it's like. And it's. And I work very fast and I can explain things very well, but it still was, like, just creating all these weak spots in my field.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And then you start to work with some of these energies, and it pisses them off.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

We're, like, poking the beehive, rattling that hornet's nest however you want to look at it, without any sort of like. Like, guard on or regard for the time of day or regard if I have the energy or how many times was I stung yesterday? You know, it's like, none of that. And I'd had, like. And I don't think that they were random and just, like, coincidence, but, like, depending on the work I do, I'd have really weird experiences, like, out in the world.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And so, like, cars would almost hit me. Cones would fly up out of nowhere. Like, you know, it's like Final Destination, Final Fantasy, whatever that one is, where you're like, what? There's a tire rolling down the road? Like, how is this? I'm going to get energy healing to, like, beef myself back up. Or I'm just. Such weird things where you're like, tell me that's not related. Because every time I see this client and do this type of work, like, my car gets bumped or this gets hit, or I almost.

[Interviewer]

I think it's just because you're working with so much energy. It's almost like everything's like. You're like a magnet.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. It's like, hello, I'm a wide open channel. And then you just get, you know, like, you said that magnet energy. And so kind of realizing, like, oh, I don't have to do that, and I can still be that powerful. Oh, okay. So it kind of reinvigorated my, like, trust in myself.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Of like, okay, you're. You're not crazy. And I never really thought I was crazy, but I also didn't know how to share this with people. Like, this is such a weird thing.

[Interviewer]

Like, the thing is, is we live in a world where whether it's a topic like this or anything for that matter.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

But I think mainly this, in a way, it's still taboo for a lot of people. There are so many people that will call you crazy.

[Michelle Larson]

Oh, yeah.

[Interviewer]

All the time.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Even when I'm. Because I'M like, newer in my spiritual journey. But even, like, sometimes when I'm like talking to my friends, like I am, I notice that, like, to me, like, I love my meditation and working with crystals and stuff like that. But I know sometimes, like when I talk to my friends, I'm like, I'll joke around and I'm like, here's my Selenite wand, like clearing energy and they'll like, laugh and. And whatever else. But like.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I think it is still so taboo where people just think, oh, it's nothing, you know, And I think that that's okay, you know, we're all in our own path. But it's very interesting. Like, it's something where you kind of have to be okay with people not believing you, thinking you're a whack job nutcase. But, you know, at the end of the day, it doesn't affect you in your life. So it's like, you do you, I'll do me, and I'm.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You know, you know what you're powers are, I like to say, but I have another question for you.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So you work with crystals. I do, yeah. So what are your thoughts on them? Like, do you think? I just, like. Because like I said, I'm still so new and everything, so I just like, I don't know, I want to pick your brain.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. With stuff like that, I. I love crystals. I think they're fantastic allies. I think, like, essential oils are fantastic allies. Incense.

[Interviewer]

So you think those are good to use, like, within meditation and stuff?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And for protection and things like that.

[Michelle Larson]

They're great to use. The only time that I feel like they're not great to use is if you feel like you no longer have power if you don't use them.

[Interviewer]

Got it.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, it's like, it's an outsourcing rerouting.

[Interviewer]

Like it's kind of like an addition to things. Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. Where it's like, oh, like I'm gonna wear tiger's eye in my pocket for psychic protection. Because I know that it helps enhance it and I know that I'd be okay without it. But also, why wouldn't I use it? It's an ally, it's part of the earth. It's here to help us.

[Interviewer]

Right. What's your bracelet?

[Michelle Larson]

This one, I think it's rose quartz.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

If I remember right. And then the lava beads, I just.

[Interviewer]

Ordered some, so I'm like, I love it. I was looking at it, I was like, it has to be something special over there.

[Michelle Larson]

And then I put my Little oils in here.

[Interviewer]

And the beast. Oh, amazing. Okay, that's awesome. So it'll have, like, scent to it. Wow.

[Michelle Larson]

Yep.

[Interviewer]

Oh, I love that. Okay, I need to get one of those, too.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

What was my other question? Do you do meditation? Like, do. Okay, yeah. How long do you meditate for? Would you say when you do? Just varies.

[Michelle Larson]

It varies. I'm. I'm very much like, it's very good to meditate every single day. I have just, like, two young children and.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Crazy life as well. But I do meditation almost all day when I'm in sessions for people, so there's that energy, too. But I want. Whenever I teach people or help, like, guide and counsel and all that, I'm like, you have to find a rhythm that works for you.

[Interviewer]

Yes.

[Michelle Larson]

So it's like, maybe in the beginning, it does look like setting that timer or using.

[Interviewer]

Even if it's five minutes. Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, I'm like. And I. I've joked about it for a while because I work a lot with mothers of Starseed children, you know, but like the Five Minute Mama series where I'm like, here are things you can do in five minutes. Like, are you waiting in line to pick up your kiddo? Are you waiting in line for Starbucks? Are you waiting. Where are you waiting in line that you could do something right? And then you start there. And then later on, we could be like, okay, it's better to meditate, like in one spot in your house with your altar, because then the energy's flowing and, you know, it's clear and good. But also in the beginning, maybe you just need to build that in where you got it.

[Interviewer]

Because it's hard. I mean, as you know, as anyone knows, it is hard to stick with new routines or new habits. And I think, too, for me, something that I've realized, even outside of the spiritual side of things, of how important, like we were saying it is to spend that time with yourself and in silence. Because I think so many people are uncomfortable with being alone. They, like, always need music playing. They always need to be on the phone. Like, they can't just sit with themselves. And I think that a lot of times you can answer your own questions. You can solve your own problems if you just, like, sit within your own energy.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. Yeah. And we've. It's like you're either scared to go there or the mind's still racing. And, you know, for some people, it's like, I can't sit in meditation. My mind is too loud. It's like, okay, well, can you journal can you write, like.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, there's, like, stepping stones to kind of work your way up to things. Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Or, like, even, you know, doing, like, different emotional release practices or just something to clear your vessel.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Then trying to sit and seeing how much clearer it gets. I'm like, it's amazing how much opens up for people when they're willing to, like, move the shit out of the way first and then see what happens there.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Okay. When I get my brain dump out and I quit judging myself, then I can just sit here.

[Interviewer]

Right. Because then it's not in your head. You're, like, actually physically getting it on paper.

[Michelle Larson]

And then also it's like in the, you know, communities, we see all these, like, amazing downloads and these people who sit in meditation and they're like, oh, I downloaded this new. You know, it's like gene keys, human design. Like, these systems are downloaded, channeled systems. Right. And you're like, okay, well, I didn't get anything. It's like, that's. That's maybe not your point. Maybe your point is to just sit and be with yourself.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Maybe your point is just to see that, like, you should eat an apple today. Whatever. Right. It's like we can't judge or quantify, like, what you get out of the meditation. And that's the other thing. I feel like people kind of go into it in the wrong sense.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. They want, like, 0 to 100. They want, like, everything. Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. I gotta get something out of this. It's like, actually that. That's, like, not the point. It's just to be. And then what comes out of being.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Is the gift, even if it's just being right versus, like, extracting and invoking and getting.

[Interviewer]

Becoming psychic overnight and, like, getting all these visions.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So how long have you been doing your work now for?

[Michelle Larson]

Let's see. Let's see. I'm like. I started as, like, a holistic practitioner in 15, so I think I started doing readings. And end of 17, beginning of 18.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

So like seven years.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Six. Seven years. Somewhere.

[Interviewer]

And you love it.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

That's amazing. So if you're not doing it on Zoom, is it all in person now for you?

[Michelle Larson]

No, it's actually over. Telegram.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Or WhatsApp. Yeah, it's kind of just more like direct messaging and then, like, really sharing. And. And I was very hesitant to shift this model for a while because I was like, I love being with my people. And all of it was Zoom for me mostly because most of my people in the beginning were not even From I'm from Minnesota. Weren't even from there. Abercrombie denim is everything right now.

[Interviewer]

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[Michelle Larson]

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[Michelle Larson]

Like they were like west coast, east coast, like right. Canada. Like I'm like, okay, like this is interesting.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And I was like, oh, I'm gonna lose that touch with people. But we're, we're like going even deeper because we're, we don't have to like try and show up at the same time and then like make it work. And if they're busy or distracted and.

[Interviewer]

Having I think too, like you said, you know, being on a time crunch, sometimes it can, it can be good in the beginning, but then when you know your time's coming up, it can kind of like create that distraction or you know, things like that.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. And then there, you know, there were days where it's like, oh, I. All my sessions were an hour, you know, and then I'm like, oh. Like I either know I have another one coming up or like the energy's tired or it needs to go longer. I need more time. This work is deeper or they're processing slower. It's like that wasn't built in.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

To, to have it flow like that. And then it's like, okay, well we're going to. What do I cut you off like mid healing? Like that doesn't. That's not integrity.

[Interviewer]

Right. It just wasn't a realistic model for you.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. And so it's, it has shifted so much in that way and it just took a little bit. Also, I'm a projector in human design, so that energy is not consistent. So it's like when I'm in full strength, may not be when I think said I would be two weeks ago. Cuz that's when we booked.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

So it's just this interesting, like, really getting to know myself without letting it hold me back.

[Interviewer]

But it's so authentic to you and work what works for you. And I feel like that's what would set your work apart, is that you're not just showing up, whether your energy is here or here. You're, like, making sure that you are in the right place for yourself, which you need to be for your work.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Which I think is, like, I think the right person, you know, coming to you for your work specifically would understand and appreciate that, because there are so. Unfortunately, there are so many fake people out there that promise or guarantee healing or readings. And, you know, the interesting thing, too, is, as humans, as different as we all are, we do have very similar emotions and experiences. So I think. Not that it's easy to, you know, be fake. It's kind of like, easy to throw something out and be like. Like, wait, I think I can relate to that or pinpoint to something. So I think it is important to be careful, you know?

[Michelle Larson]

Definitely. Yeah. And it's like, I want. I want my clients to get the best.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Of me. I want them to be in the best energy. There's times where I'm like, I'm going in. We're doing this, and then I'm like, whoa, full breaks. What's happening in your field? Okay, we're not doing energy healing today. We just. We just need coaching and guidance. Like, we just need holding.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

What's happening? Tell me what's up in your world.

[Interviewer]

Right?

[Michelle Larson]

And then it's like, okay, great. Now you're receptive for that energy. If I have it in my tank to do it that day, great. Otherwise, it's the next day. Like, it just gets to be moving in that way versus, like. Okay, pause. What's happening with your boyfriend right now? We got to go over here, and, like, this is what we're doing today, and it's just like, no. Like, we're so transient as humans and as energies. It's like, let. Let that flow and be with it, too.

[Interviewer]

Absolutely.

[Michelle Larson]

So we can, like, match that power with power versus, like, this is what it looks like, and this is what we've been modeled like. Okay.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

You know.

[Interviewer]

Right. That is incredible, though. That is, like, the coolest thing.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, it's. It's definitely different.

[Interviewer]

So have you. Have you had any more of. I guess. I know, like, with working, with energy. I know you said, you know, obviously you're constantly experiencing just different things, but since you Kind of made that shift you mentioned before in your work. Have you had any other experience happen to you or in your home or in your family that was you felt was out of your control, or do you really think that kind of has been able to close for you so far?

[Michelle Larson]

It's. It's been, like, completely closed up for me.

[Interviewer]

And you didn't have to move houses.

[Michelle Larson]

I didn't move.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Michelle Larson]

Didn't have to do any of that, which is so nice. Like, yeah, that's. Yeah. Animals aren't losing their minds.

[Interviewer]

Like, they're not getting pulled. Legs pulled out from under them.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. Which, like. And I really was, like, super conscious when we were looking at houses. Like, I was like, oh, good thing we have, like, an adorable realtor. Because I'm like, like, feeling into the energy. Everywhere we looked, I was like, this matters, because it does. We. After the last house, I was like, I am not doing that again. So then when it found us, I was like, what the heck? I'm like, I can't do this. But now it's not happening, and we're in the same house. And, like, I'm not waking up to, like, ships outside of my window, like, waking me up or, like, pestering my husband or waking up my children. Like, I think since. Since I've shifted it. We've only had one. Not even night terror, but, like, maybe bad dream for my oldest.

[Interviewer]

And I think, too, you know, obviously, you're an example of somebody that is very gifted, very experienced, and I think that obviously there's some people that what you're saying will sound like gibberish, which is okay. But at the same time, I do think that. I mean, I love to have people like you on here because I love to hear about it, but at the same time, I think that it's.

[Michelle Larson]

It.

[Interviewer]

It does kind of. I don't want to say teach people, but it. In a way, I guess you could use that word, like, to listen to themselves, because intuition is so big. I think a lot of times we. You know, you can believe what you want, but having intuition and having a gut feeling is so important. You know, it's. It's there for a reason. And like you said, even if it's something as simple as, like, eat that apple today, like, give into your gut feeling, give into your intuition. Because I do think and believe that listening to yourself in those very small moments, that's like kind of feeding into your intuition, which I think allows it to, like, expand and grow and just spend time with yourself, too. Like, we were saying. I think that all these little things could just help you get more in tune. Even if you don't get to, you know, a level like you. It just. It allows you to be more in tune with yourself, which I think is one of the most amazing experiences you can have here.

[Michelle Larson]

It is.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And I love that you say that, too, because it's something that. That I always try to help people, like, really understand. Is. Is that, like, taking that small little step? Like, it's like I went to a friend's house, like, this fall, and I was about to leave, and it's like, I'm staring at an onion. I don't know why I'm staring at an onion. Like, I'm. I wasn't supposed to bring onions. Whatever. I'm, like, staring at this onion. It won't leave me alone. Whatever. I didn't grab it. I get there, and she's like, I'm out of onions. Like, oh, come on.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh. Right?

[Michelle Larson]

And I'm, like, pretty deep in this work, you know? Like, I'm like, like, oh. It's like those little nudges right where, you know, for everybody else, it's like, that is the. The gift. And even for me, I missed it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

I missed that gift. Like, it was just an onion, and it was chilling, and it turned out fine. But it's like, if you can do that, you start to build that trust with yourself.

[Interviewer]

That's true. Right? And trust. Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And. And then you're like, oh, like, I got me. And I. I can really do a lot of things, even if it's simply. But we need. You know, we need more people doing it in alignment and with, like, strong conviction and trust in themselves. And we're not seeing that.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, everyone wants to outsource or go get, like, 15 other readings or go. But, you know, it's like. And I love all those things. Like, we get our crystals, we get our decks, we get our this. But to what end are we outsourcing versus just enhancing? It's a big difference. But it's like, oh, you get to. That's the gift.

[Interviewer]

Right?

[Michelle Larson]

And you just get to, like, wake up a little bit more, and next time, you're not going to doubt yourself. When it's like, I don't know why I need to take a left. I don't get it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

So I could see that bird. So I could see that. Whatever. I could help that person find their dog. Like, there's so many ways. It's like that serendipitous little tiny connection.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And that's constant. We just miss it always because we're so busy. We're so busy.

[Interviewer]

I have one more question for you too that I just thought of.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

What are your thoughts on spiritual psychosis?

[Michelle Larson]

Oh, that's a good one. Well, what do you, what do you feel about it? Like, do you think that it's absolutely necessary? Do you think everybody goes through it? Do you like.

[Interviewer]

I don't know.

[Michelle Larson]

So I think no pressure either.

[Interviewer]

Like, let me think. So I feel like it kind of depends. I think that maybe for some people, they do need to have that experience to kind of like break themselves in a way and have a different understanding and full detachment, you could say, I think like anything, literally with any, anything can be too much with anything that there is out there.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So. But I think that, you know, in this human experience, people are always looking for an escape, some more light, some more intense, whether it's full blown drugs or like, you know, or religion or spirituality. And I think that if you can keep this balance and live this. I read something the other day that was saying it was about spiritual psychosis. And it was kind of saying that some people, they think do need to go through it, but if you do feel like you're kind of going over the edge, just step back a little and ground yourself and give yourself the balance. Like if you're, for example, like if you're reading all these books, like, like studying spirituality, like, give yourself a break and read like just like a normal book or like, you know what I mean, like one that's not about. And I felt like that was such an easy way to kind of create that balance for yourself. If you kind of feel yourself like getting. Going down a loophole. Because it's so easy. I think as humans, like we have, in a lot of people, especially if you have more of an addictive personality, you just spiral and you're like, I want more, more and more. Because like, we want to learn, we want to first.

[Michelle Larson]

Sure.

[Interviewer]

Get information. And I think too, when you have a cool experience, it's like, I want that again and I want that, that adrenaline, like more and more.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You know, and I think that it can be so easy, like I said, with anything to go down that spiral. But I guess my question would be, because I think that it's, I, at least what I see with it or hear about it online would be, you know, if somebody's talking about spirituality or their experiences that they had, their immediate response will be, that person is in spiritual psychosis, they are completely detached from reality, from being a human, and they are just totally delusional. So I guess for you, where is that, like, line drawn, you know, of like, if somebody is completely just out of their human experience or if they're kind of in this healthy place of like, they realize that they are this spiritual, powerful being and they listen to their intuition and they work with things like crystals and they meditate and this, that, and the other. But then they also realize, like, I'm a human. I deserve these things. Like, I'm powerful. Let's manifest these amazing things in our life. And I think it's. That's why we're here in a way. Like, you're supposed to experience love and experience, you know, attracting things to yourself. But like I said, it is so easy to kind of like, fall off because you. And I think isolate.

[Michelle Larson]

And also because it can be so lonely.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Especially when people are telling you you're crazy or they don't understand it.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. So I definitely. I. I love what you shared in the end, because I do feel like that that's so it. It's. The point is to embody the spiritual nature of our soul and the human being that is our flesh.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Like the meat suit and the soul suit, like, can they integrate and can they meet? And really, if you pour yourself too much into humanity, you're checked out.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And if you pull yourself too much into spirituality, then. Then you fry out your system or you're kind of chasing, like, there's. There's a. Like, I talk about, like, the. The new age spirituality craze is to, like, get your Girl Scout badge of spiritual experiences. I did my ayahuasca. I had an alien abduction. I can channel. Blah, blah, blah, 12d, blah, blah, blah. You know, it's kind of like these cool experiences that, like, then look cool or good, which aren't rooted in anything.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

It's like, that's more ego, that's more vanity, that's more just like kind of chasing it because it looks good on you over there. So maybe I should try and do it, you know, the same way where it's like, well, we could download a new human design or I should eat an apple. Neither are more or less important.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

You know, in that way. So I do feel like there is this beautiful, healthy balance and it is to. Perhaps it's the biggest hurdle or like, bridge right now in our society to meet in the middle with.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Because we are seeing these people who are going through spiritual Psychosis. And you're like. You're so far down the rabbit hole, like.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, you. You're not even, like, relatable anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you can't have the conversation about both.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

And I don't think you can help others or yourself when you're that far in it.

[Michelle Larson]

Not typically.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And so then you see them kind of like. Like, rail over here or derail over there, and you're kind of like, can you come back and bring that? Because what good is that wisdom and what good is that knowledge and that information? And. And sometimes, like, I do have people who are like, you are so crazy. What do you mean? How are you doing these things? And I'm like, that's okay. Like, you don't have to feel that way. But, like, at the end of the day, if you bumped into me at Target, you would never know that I do this work.

[Interviewer]

No.

[Michelle Larson]

And that's the best part about it, you know, where I'm like, I do feel like I have worked really hard to balance that bridge. And some of it's like, really getting with the human, really processing those emotions, really being with, like, whatever there is to be with. With my human and accepting it.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Not resisting it. So it's like, you know, we find out we're starseeds or we find out where whatever spiritual beings with all these past lives, and then we cling to it and we, like, forget the right now reality. And it's like, actually, right now, this is my experience. Okay, can I be here now? And over here. You can't. You can't help anybody. Like you said, you're just like, right. This floating balloon that drifts through the air until you run out of helium or pop like that. That doesn't work. You need to have this base. You need to have this anchor which involves grounding in if you're not in your body, if you're not grounded. Like, and then you said this as well. But it's like, find that balance. If you find you're getting a little nutty. I've gone down so many rabbit holes and, like, it keeps me up at night, and there's so many. And then I'm like, okay, yeah, let.

[Interviewer]

Me step away from it for a second. Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Like, I'm like, that information is going nowhere. And, like, you know, thankful for the way back web because it really is going nowhere, you know, if you know where to find it and know where to look for some of these things where you're like, actually, it's Fine. We can find anything that ever existed.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

At least in the digital world, you know, the old age, it's like the book burning happens. So you really couldn't back then. But they also didn't have access to the whole world at their fingertips. So it's like we go down these rabbit holes and those rabbit holes and we're on our phones. We're in here. Where's. Where's the stillness and the checking in?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Where is that balance? Where are you finding your humanness? Are you even taking care of your body versus just being like, peace out earth? Like this is temporary home. I don't care. It's like. Well, there's pretty big spiritual war going on right now that like, you're here for or you're just gonna cycle in another loop for like. I don't want to get re. Enlisted. Do you?

[Interviewer]

I don't want to get again. Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Well, I do my work and. And that's part of that.

[Interviewer]

That bridge.

[Michelle Larson]

Because we're. We're not one or the other. It's like we're all. So I don't think it's totally necessary for spiritual psychosis. I do think it's real.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. And it's good to be like, aware of it.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You know, and like I said, I. It was. It's funny because I did just see that. The video on it. And then I was reading through the comments and that's when I saw that kind of explanation and distinction of like what you can do. And it. I think sometimes it takes just like. Like reading something so simple to kind of make you understand. Like, oh, it's as easy as that. Because I think things are a lot more easy than we think that they are.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Or like, we think that if we're down this hole, like, it's going to take so much unraveling to get out of it. But it really. It doesn't always. But no. Yeah. I wanted to ask your opinion on that. So thank you for. For telling me.

[Michelle Larson]

But and some of it too. Like, there's there's been some things, like even, you know, post all of my memories coming back, whether it be in plant medicine or not, which I'm like, oh, people are going to totally think that's just. Just, you know, psychedelics and that's just like a vision and a thing and.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

That's their opinion. You know, it's like Mel Robbins. Let them.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And let me like use that for the souls who need it. But in that same way where I'm like, do I find a therapist, and then. Can I find a therapist without ending up in the loony bin? Yeah, because I'm grounded and I'm good. But there's some things I want to process here.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And. And then it kind of, like, stirred up, like, human level memory, PTSD stuff. And then I was like, okay, maybe I need to address that. But how do I address that without addressing any of this? And. And they do exist. Like, there are people out there who. Who do exist in that front if people need it. And you just kind of get to, like, trust and flow. Do I need that? Do I not need that? Like, what is that, Bridger? Do I step back for a little bit? Do I, you know, read a rom com? Like, yeah, read fantasy.

[Interviewer]

Like, do something else, because it's something you enjoy. Like, yeah, here. And that's something else I want to mention as well, is, you know, I think that kind of just tying in the therapy aspect because I think everybody can benefit from therapy, but I think that when therapy first begun, maybe, or. And even to this day, it's like, in my opinion, there's different types of therapists, for sure. And, you know, there's. I've had experience with both, but there's a type of therapist where it's very transactional. It is very, like, by the book, they will think you're crazy based on what you're saying.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

But then there's energy healers and there's these life coaches, and that's what, you know, I had found for myself, and it was life changing for me, you know, And I think that somebody that allows you to tap into yourself and where you are integrating meditation and hypnosis and you feel like you actually are friends with this person. This is your person, this person's on your side. Like, you have this deep, energetic connection with them. And I think that that is so amazing. And I feel like I wanted to bring that up as well, because I don't know if a lot of people know that that could be more helpful than just your average typical therapist. I think that people should maybe if they're feeling like they tried therapy once or maybe a few times and it's not working, and it just does feel too, like, cold and dry.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Go the route of, like, an energy healer, because I don't think you understand. Like, it's very similar where you have this unbiased opinion and this person that you can share your life to and talk to, but you also have somebody that, like, can genuinely help you on a deeper level. It's not just like psychology by the book. You know what I mean? And that is like, the biggest thing that I've. And I tend to gear towards that and even the plant medicine and stuff. I just think that those options are so much more interesting and healing and you get to learn more about yourself than anything else.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah. Well, and then it's. It's this beautiful aspect too, because, you know, and it's like, I've. I have several clients who are like, I mean, this is cheaper than therapy, you know, and they're like. And I feel better. And I'm like, that's amazing for you. And then I have other clients who, like, do both.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

Because they. They just like, like that aspect or they have, like, deeper mental health needs.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

And. And I love that. And I love that they trust that for themselves and know that for themselves. I'm like, you just. Just get to try that out.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Because it really does take that. And it's like in the energy, healing in. In that realm of, like, getting to know yourself on a soul level. But then again, like, it's that spectrum where it's like, you're not forgetting you're human.

[Interviewer]

Yep.

[Michelle Larson]

And like, when. And you'll see between different healers or readers or people that. That you find to meet, like, some will very much, like, want you to go and cling to that past life story and open it up. And it's like, this is why you're the way that you are. And it's like kind of that victim stance.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

More than like, oh, this is part of that. We. We get to go and heal this, like, deep grief that you've carried from that lifetime. And this is why it's here and how it's played out here. Boom. And people, like, I feel so seen.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

Thank you. But I'm not clinging to that. Like, it's my new hat I'm gonna wear. You know, the same way, like, when I had my energy healer be like, oh, you're abducted by aliens. Like, I'm not all of a sudden, like, living out of a van, trying to curate these experiences. I'm just kind of like. Like, that makes so much sense.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Michelle Larson]

Awesome.

[Interviewer]

Cool.

[Michelle Larson]

And like, wouldn't recommend. 10 out of 10. Don't recommend.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

But also, like, then life gets to move forward and, like, so I get a different understanding. Yeah. It's like, we just get to have those pockets be for different things, but then we don't have to cling to them too. And so I love that distinction for all to know of just like you can go and have these, but you don't need to get stuck and swirl in it.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Michelle Larson]

It just is like, like valuable information that what is what was and you are who you are today. Absolutely get to make those choices.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Spot on.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Do you have like a website and things like that that you. That people. If people are watching and they want to work with you?

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, I don't, don't have a website yet.

[Interviewer]

Okay, well, you need one.

[Michelle Larson]

I've been like working on one for like ever.

[Interviewer]

You need something. What do you have? Like, what do you. An Instagram.

[Michelle Larson]

I have Instagram.

[Interviewer]

Okay, good.

[Michelle Larson]

Yep.

[Interviewer]

Okay. So if people wanted to work with you, should they reach out to you that way? Do you have like an email? I'll like, I'll attach all your stuff in the description.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, we can put like my Instagram.

[Interviewer]

But I'm going to be the first client.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah, we can do the Instagram calendly.

[Interviewer]

Amazing. Okay, perfect.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Awesome.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I love this. Was there anything else you wanted to share? Any other stories? Any other anything?

[Michelle Larson]

No, I feel you got it. Good. Yeah, this was so.

[Interviewer]

Thank you so much for letting me ask my questions too. I love it. You're amazing. This is so interesting and intriguing to me, but thank you so much. Seriously, you did amazing.

[Host]

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[Michelle Larson]

Whatever.

[Host]

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[Michelle Larson]

Thank you.

[Interviewer]

Like I said, I think that conversations like this need to happen more often. And I feel like you tell your story in a way that's still so like easily easy understood. You know, people can get it. And yeah, it's one of those things you pick and choose. You don't believe it, don't watch it. You do. Like, this is super interesting. Like, for me, I'm like, I love this. I'm like, I have more questions. But no, you. This is incredible. And I think that it's amazing that, you know, even though you had these types of experiences that I'm sure were you know, very scary at times that you were able to turn it into this thing where you can protect yourself but also use your gifts to heal others. I think that's incredible. And you help so many people, so that's amazing. And hopefully more people, because people want to, you know, come to you and.

[Michelle Larson]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Get more of your energy and gifts. So thank you.

[Michelle Larson]

Thank you.

[Interviewer]

I love it.