148: Mommy & Daddy & Biff Wiff (Re-release)

Summary

Podcast Summary: We're Here to Help - Episode 148: "Mommy & Daddy & Biff Whiff" (Re-release)

Release Date: February 20, 2025
Hosts: Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds
Special Segment: Tribute to Biff Whiff

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1. Tribute to Biff Whiff

Overview:
Episode 148 is a heartfelt re-release of Episode 64, dedicated to honoring the late Biff Whiff, a beloved guest who recently passed away. Hosts Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds reflect on Biff's impactful presence both in their show and within the broader entertainment industry.

Key Discussions:

• Biff Whiff’s Career:
  Jake provides a comprehensive backstory of Biff's extensive acting career, highlighting his roles in iconic shows such as Moonlighting (1987), Night Court (1989), and the original Roseanne. He also mentions Biff's transition from theater in San Diego to his success in Los Angeles, emphasizing his versatility as a character actor.

  Jake Johnson [00:50]: "He was on Moonlighting in '87. He was on Night Court, the original. Back in '89, he was on the original Roseanne."

• Personal Memories:
  The hosts reminisce about their personal interactions with Biff, particularly during the filming of Jake's movie Self Reliance. Jake shares anecdotes about auditioning Biff for a pivotal role, appreciating his natural acting style and the depth he brought to his character.

  Jake Johnson [04:07]: "He was my kind of favorite scene partner. He had real layers that didn't always come out but were always felt by everyone on set."

• Biff’s Personality and Influence:
  Gareth highlights Biff’s genuine nature and the positive impact he had on those around him, both professionally and personally. The duo underscores Biff's ability to blend humor with authenticity, making him a standout presence in every project he was involved in.

  Gareth Reynolds [06:14]: "He knew his audience loved him, and it was evident in his interactions both on and off the screen."

• Legacy and Final Moments:
  Jake shares the poignant moment when Biff was diagnosed with cancer during the reshoots of Self Reliance. Despite his illness, Biff maintained his sense of humor and commitment to his craft until the very end.

  Jake Johnson [10:58]: "I love you, Biff. I'm so glad I met you. Please enjoy this episode that we recorded about a year ago."

Notable Quotes:

• Jake Johnson [00:37]: "He's so funny."
• Gareth Reynolds [02:24]: "I remember when I first moved to LA, there was a lot of that where I'd be like, at Baja Fresh. I'd be like, oh, shit."
• Jake Johnson [10:58]: "Please enjoy this episode that we recorded, I think about a year ago."
• Jake Johnson [28:32]: "Rip Biffy."

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2. Main Content: Caller Jimmy’s Dilemma with "Mommy & Daddy"

Caller Details:
Name: Jimmy
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Age: 31
Relationship Status: Married for three years, known his partner for eight years

Issue Presented:
Jimmy seeks advice because his wife continues to refer to her parents as "Mommy and Daddy," a habit that disrupts his comfort and the dynamics within their marriage. Despite their mutual affection and long-term relationship, this particular term of endearment from his wife towards her parents has become a point of contention for Jimmy.

Discussion and Advice:

• Initial Reactions:
  Both hosts express empathy towards Jimmy's frustration, with Jake assuring him, "I'm with you, Jimmy" ([15:07]). Biff Whiff contributes by questioning why Jimmy is so bothered, adding a humorous twist to the situation.

• Exploring Solutions:
  The trio brainstorms various strategies to address the issue. They consider introducing intentionally awkward pet names to make the situation uncomfortable enough for Jimmy's wife and her parents to reconsider the terms "Mommy and Daddy."

  Jake Johnson [21:06]: "You refer to her as like Bunky and you make her call you like Pumpkin man or something."

• Implementing Change Through Humor:
  They propose escalating the awkwardness by adopting absurd pet names like "Slobber Puss" and "Slobber Dick" to break the cycle in a humorous manner, hoping that the extreme nature of these names will prompt a reevaluation of their current terminology.

  Jake Johnson [23:32]: "What if you called her Slobber Puss and she called you Slobber Dick."

• Confrontational yet Playful Approach:
  Another suggestion involves Jimmy and his wife responding with equally unconventional names like "Sleepy Man" during moments when she refers to her parents, thereby creating a playful yet confrontational scenario that could lead to a natural discussion about changing their terms of address.

  Jake Johnson [25:11]: "If you're sleepy man. If I'm a fucking... If my daughter called her husband sleepy man in front of me, I would hate it."

• Final Strategy:
  The hosts encourage Jimmy to be candid and direct when the name-calling occurs, suggesting he respond firmly yet humorously to his wife's use of "Mommy and Daddy." They emphasize the importance of mutual agreement and open communication to resolve the issue.

  Jake Johnson [27:06]: "And you go like this. Okay, sir, but I am Daddy."

Outcome and Recommendations:

• Active Participation:
  Jimmy is encouraged to experiment with the proposed strategies, particularly adopting playful yet assertive responses that highlight his discomfort with the terms.

• Follow-Up:
  The hosts request Jimmy to share the outcomes of his attempts, fostering an ongoing dialogue and support system through their platform.

  Jake Johnson [28:00]: "All right, so let us know what happens, Jimmy."

Notable Quotes:

• Jimmy [14:33]: "I have known her for eight years and I love her. But the one thing that I can't get over is that she still calls her mom and dad 'Mommy and Daddy.'"
• Jake Johnson [15:07]: "This isn't a bit. I'm with you."
• Gareth Reynolds [24:09]: "It's going to change the vibe very quickly."

Advice Offered:

• Adopt Uncomfortable Pet Names: Introduce names that are deliberately awkward to shift the habitual use of "Mommy and Daddy."
• Direct Communication: Address the issue head-on during appropriate moments to express discomfort and seek mutual understanding.
• Humorous Confrontation: Utilize humor to ease the tension and make the conversation less confrontational, fostering a more open dialogue.

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3. Conclusion

Episode 148 serves both as a touching tribute to the late Biff Whiff and a practical guide addressing a relatable marital concern. Through a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and sincere advice, Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds exemplify their commitment to helping listeners navigate everyday challenges, all while celebrating the legacy of a cherished friend and collaborator.

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Note:
All advice provided in this episode is intended for entertainment purposes only. Listeners should consider their unique circumstances and seek professional guidance when necessary.

Transcript

[Jake Johnson]

And we are back, Garrett. So this is a special Thursday. This is a repeat. This is a new intro, but we are repeating episode 64 because the great Biff Whiff has passed away. He passed away last week, and we just wanted to replay his episode and give him a little bit of a. A shout out.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. He was definitely our most honest guest as far as what he thought of the premise of the show, which we enjoyed.

[Jake Johnson]

He's so funny.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He was great. He really was such a. I. I don't know much about him, but it seemed like people really got to know him towards the end of his career.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, you know, he started. So I'll give a little bit of backstory on him from what I know, which is also, you know, I just met him when I was doing my movie Self Reliance, but he was on Moonlighting in 87. He was on Night Court, the original. Back in 89, he was on the original Roseanne. He moved to San Diego to get into theater and then did the LA jump. So he had been in the game for a very long time. But I think it was, you know, I thought it was Tim Robinson's. I think you. I think you should leave. That's when he really popped with the shirt. I mean, he's so funny in that, and that show is so funny, but he's excellent.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. And I think, like, you know, I. I look. You know him better than I do, but, I mean, seeing him in your movie, like, there was just a lot more going on for him, Even his social media following. Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

But, you know, he was also in shows like Brooklyn Nine. Nine, Fresh off the Boat. The guy was a true character actor.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

In a way that I think is unfortunately going away.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

And these great characters that, you know, people, Gareth, like you and I grew up thinking were a huge part of our business and had a lot of value. They just seem to have less value nowadays.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Remember, like, the that guy stuff where you'd be like, oh, that guy. And then you'd, like, learn a little bit more. And sometimes the that guy would hit later on. And yes, I remember when I first moved to la, like, there was a lot of that where I'd be like, at Baja Fresh. I'd be like, oh, shit. Second.

[Jake Johnson]

Well. Well, the goal to move out to LA was to be that guy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That was the. That was. That felt like a huge plot point in your life out here.

[Jake Johnson]

And so when I was doing my movie, there was a part of James, who was a homeless guy who becomes friends with my character, and I really believed it was the true romance of the movie. And it was. I felt like the whole movie kind of hinged on his performance. And when we went through the financing and the producer calls with Ali Bell and we were talking about casting, the truth was I had no idea who could play the part. And they were mentioning people like Nick Nolte, and I thought, like, Nick Nolte's cool. And they showed his headshot and I just thought, like, I don't know, like, there's gotta be a lot of heart to the character because you've gotta justify. I mean, the bad writing is I meet a guy and then almost immediately we have one night hanging out together and then we're like, wanna be best friends and spend the den, Do a whole becoming best friends montage. And as we were doing auditions for it, I had that terrible stomachache of, like, my premise doesn't work. These guys are like, you know, they were playing it so heavy or so dramatic or so overly comedic. Like, it was this. And I'm like, now and then BIFF WHIFFS VIDEO AUDITION STARTS and right from minute one, I was like, oh, my God, I love this guy. He always wore suspenders. He had that, like, little taxi driver cap on. He could take his teeth in or out however he kind of wanted.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You want an actor who can do that for most parts.

[Biff Whiff]

Oh.

[Jake Johnson]

And he was.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Even when watching the movie, it's like that, that when that kicks in, you're like, oh, this is good stuff.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Like, you're excited to see that portion of the film.

[Jake Johnson]

And then I did a little bit of research on him. I contacted Tim, I believe, too, who had nothing but the warmest things to say about him. And then we auditioned, we met, and right away he was the first person I tried to get cleared for the financiers. So it was a really funny thing. Like, mostly you lay out, like, your must haves.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

But my first email to, like, MRC was like, like, okay, his name is Biff with.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They're like, who's the love interest? You're like, biff with.

[Jake Johnson]

We gotta lock in Biff. And then we're gonna go to Anna Kendrick.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Then we have a big chip on the table, so we can move a lot around. Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

But all bits aside, like. And it was funny for me to go through that, but it really was true. He was. He was my kind of favorite scene partner. There's a scene he and I do where we're in a kind of like a junkyard. It's a late night scene. But Biff had to act. He had to carry an emotional scene. And I had no idea if he was more of a guy who could say, like, a funny thing on a cameo or. A lot of these people, you'll. You'll almost use certain actors. They'll have, like, one gimmick, and you're like, just use that thing, and it's really funny, but they don't have levels to them, and it's fine. You're like, the one thing is so great. But the catch with Biff is he had real levels to him. Like, there was so much about him as an actor that didn't come out. And as a. I'm like, dude. We'd be doing scenes, and everyone in the crew after would go, like, that guy is really special. I'm like, there's something. It's like every day you would learn more about him. He was so kind, so fun to be around. Obviously, Adelstein loved him.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Obviously. Well, Edelstein might be him. But I think the thing is, it's like, this business is really like anything, but this business is particularly its peaks and valleys. It's really kind of difficult. And he had a moment.

[Jake Johnson]

You know, I'm. And I'm really glad he did in his life.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And I think, like, you know, look, I mean, obviously, you never want someone to go. You never want to go. But he did get to experience that moment, I think, for a minute. And. And that's something.

[Jake Johnson]

And I think it's also clear he knew that his audience loved him.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Loved him. I mean, I think he knew that. And I think it was so funny for me to meet him because I was a fan and immediately was like, oh, wow. This guy is like. He's been through the business for a long time, is enjoying it, but also has that acerbic element that sort of comes with gritting it out for so long. I mean, he literally, at one point on our show was just like, why do I care?

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, it was. It's. It's. I relistened to it when I was just kind of feeling sad about his passing. And the. It was the funniest moment for me of potentially, you know, when we're all done with this and looking back, it was a guy calling, and you'll hear the show, but he goes, I don't care. You know, once you pull the rug.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Out from our premise, important. I mean, that's. That's big to keep. That's a big ball to keep in the air.

[Jake Johnson]

But that was even, like, Biff as an actor we do a scene with me, him. So there was a scene in the movie with me and Anna Kendrick and it's like we're in a bar and we're started to court and he was supposed to come in and then sit at a table away from us so we could just be in a two shot and have like, you know, our cross covered romantic scene. And he was just so good in the movie. And everyone, myself included him like him so much that the dp, Adam Silver and I were talking and we're like, should we just have Biff's character sit right behind my character so we can frame a really tight single where we don't see him if we don't want him, but when we get a little wider, like, probably wouldn't hurt to have him in the background.

[Jimmy]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

And we were like, okay, let's just see what happens. And then my note to Biff always was, don't worry about the lines. Just be totally natural. And if something comes out, then just be in the scene. Whatever your instincts are, are always right. And he just started eating chips and would comment on the scenes. But he was never pushing to be funny. He was not looking for attention. He was not looking, like, sometimes you'll have somebody and they're funny, but they really want to steal the scene. You're like, just be in the scene. And we do this whole thing where the end of it is. I'm trying to get her to come along on the journey. And it's a tough premise by, you know, like, we just meet and then she says yes. And even the writing of it, whenever I get notes, everyone's like, why does she say yes? And my response is, well, you know, you know, that's.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're shooting in two weeks. That's why.

[Jake Johnson]

That's why. Because she has to. She has to. You'll see. And no, like, it makes sense. It makes. I don't think you get it. I don't think you get it. But Biff goes. We just start going. And I couldn't understand what he was saying, but he wouldn't break. And once you're in a scene, it was real life with him and you were like, we also do another scene where. So he kills it. We use all his stuff. We had to. When we were editing it, we just. We wouldn't even look at coverage where he wasn't in it because we're like, he's the guy. Then we're doing a scene where my character is going through an intervention. And it was supposed to be a Real low point.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

He and I are sitting next to each other and we're in a two shot, obviously. Oh, if you're with Biff, keep it a two shot.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Y.

[Jake Johnson]

And it's really low where the family's like, we're worried about you. And there's a pause and he offers me the chips he's eating. And just as an instinct, I'm like, you're the best. If somebody did that, I would pass. But like your instincts, I was like, I honestly would leave the days and I would go. If I did a movie with Biff with all the time, I would never complain about acting. I would love it. He's just, he was the best scene partner.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It was obvious when he came in. He, you know, he's having health issues and that sort of stuff. And so. And you, you know me. And you'd even alluded to it before he came in. But look, I mean even you could tell even online, you know people. Yeah, you know, people were, were talking about it and everybody will miss Biff Wiff even if they only experience him through our show.

[Jake Johnson]

But what I, what I recommend is if you just him through this thing. Go on.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Go on a little ride.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. I mean go watch him on. I think you should leave. I mean he is.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes, he is so funny.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hysterical.

[Jake Johnson]

Also watch his cameos. Just google him. Like he's. He. You just have a late night where you take a hit of weed or you have a drink or whatever you do to relax.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Have a Biff spliff.

[Jake Johnson]

Have a Biff and just enjoy a little Biff Whiff. In what he brought. I was really sad because my whole press plan before he got sick, he actually got. He got cancer while we were doing the reshoots. We had found out. So our last day of shooting, he went and got a haircut and a shave with our hair and makeup. Because he was like, well, it's all gonna go anyway. So we do a reshoot where he and I are walking down the street together towards the end of the movie. And the day after that he started treatment. But I don't. I'd really imagine doing the whole press tour with me and him and him somewhat in character. So like doing Kimmel and then just having Biff whiff next to me, reacting in the moments and just be eating chips. I was like. And when he got sick, I was so sad for him. I was like, ah, it would have been so fun for him and for me. And I was like, just the guy had the sickness came at really Bad timing because I really think he had about a 10 year window ahead of him where he's just gonna do really special fun stuff. But I love you, Biff. I'm so glad I met you. I'm so glad you did the movie and the podcast and I'm sorry for Taylor and for his friends and family and please enjoy this episode that we recorded, I think about a year ago. Is that right, Garrett? Something like that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's probably right around there.

[Jake Johnson]

And that's it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Rip Biff.

[Jake Johnson]

Rip Biffy.

[Jimmy]

Hello?

[Jake Johnson]

Hello?

[Jimmy]

Hey, can you hear me?

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah. Can we get your name, please?

[Jimmy]

Yes. My real name, I assume.

[Jake Johnson]

Whatever you want. You want a real one or a fake one?

[Jimmy]

I'll do a fake one. I'll be Jimmy.

[Jake Johnson]

Jimmy. So, Jimmy, you got a special one today. You got me and the Garf.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hello.

[Jake Johnson]

But then you've got. Well, I guess I'd have to say, and I've said it to him, maybe my favorite actor in this weird Hollywood game. A fucking prince among fucking rats. A king of the game. A guy that you just put a fucking camera on and his instincts are incredible. A guy who. I wrote a movie, I star in it, I direct it, I produce it, and this fucking guy steals it from me.

[Biff Whiff]

It was easy picking. Come on.

[Jake Johnson]

A guy from Tim Robinson's. I think you should leave. Who crushes that?

[Biff Whiff]

My shirt brother.

[Jake Johnson]

A shirt brother. Santa that, huh? Mr. Biff with joins the pod.

[Biff Whiff]

Howdy. Howdy, howdy. It's great to be here.

[Jake Johnson]

As good as it gets. And you were so good in the movie. And you know how I feel about you and.

[Biff Whiff]

Well, I know how you feel about me. I feel the same way about you.

[Jake Johnson]

And this dude was on the original Night Court, isn't that right?

[Biff Whiff]

Yes, I was on the original and the current Night Court.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, you were on both of them?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Are you one of. That's pretty cool.

[Biff Whiff]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Hey, Jimmy. Where are you calling from, pal?

[Jimmy]

I am calling from Atlanta, Georgia.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay. ATL. And how old are you?

[Jimmy]

I'm in my 30s.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay, that's fair.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Very general, Jimmy.

[Jake Johnson]

Beginning or the end of them?

[Jimmy]

Beginning. I'm 31.

[Jake Johnson]

Young guy. Young guy. All right, Jimmy. What can we do for you?

[Jimmy]

All right, so me and my partner have been married for three years. I have known her for eight years and I love her. But the one thing that I can't get over butt is a great. She still calls her mom and dad mommy and daddy.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jesus Christ.

[Jake Johnson]

I'm with you, Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I. It's. It's not that I don't know. It just. It rubs me the wrong way, you know? So I need you guys help to figure out. I just don't know how to. How to get it to stop.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, but by the way, this isn't a bit. I'm with you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, I'm with.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay.

[Biff Whiff]

I don't care.

[Gareth Reynolds]

As long as the stakes are high for you, Beth. I don't care.

[Biff Whiff]

I don't care. Let her call whatever she wants. What's your problem?

[Jake Johnson]

So you don't want it to do Mommy and Daddy. And the question is, is how do we get out of this? Biff Whiff, unfortunately, is the voice of reality and who gives a shit? But the problem with that, Biff, is that we don't have a show.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, we have to give a shit.

[Biff Whiff]

Oh, we have.

[Jake Johnson]

So here.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. So if you did give what you did.

[Biff Whiff]

I give a shit.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, he is an actor.

[Jake Johnson]

Biff, I'm going to get you in the headspace for what the show is because I am with you. The reality is, Jim, who gives a shit? Right? But the point of this one is, imagine Jimmy's our very good friend, okay? The three of us are in our bar. We maybe smoked a little bit of weed. We had a couple of drinks, and our friend goes, guys, what do I do? My wife is calling her parents Mommy and Daddy, and it's driving me nuts.

[Biff Whiff]

Okay?

[Jake Johnson]

So as a good friend, we can't say, who cares?

[Biff Whiff]

Having a few drinks and some weed makes it a lot easier to care. Yes, I care now. Poor Jimmy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There we go. Good. See, Jimmy? We got him where we need him.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay, Jimmy. So keep walking us through it. So the Mommy and Daddy stuff, what else?

[Jimmy]

So it's more about we. I've had conversations with her about, hey, you know, can we change to mom and dad? Can we do Mother and Father? Can we just, you know.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, you have.

[Jimmy]

I feel like Mommy and Daddy's a very. I brought it up to her.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

So where the issue lies is her parents seem to be offended when we try to make the change. So on family trips, you know, we've been like, okay, let's start to make the change. Let's, you know, let's try mom, dad and see what happens. And they are the ones, hey, Ben.

[Jake Johnson]

What do you think? And you got. You got shit kicking in between those years. What are you thinking?

[Biff Whiff]

I'm wondering why Jimmy cares about this so much is what my thing is.

[Jake Johnson]

So you care because it's annoying to you. Right?

[Biff Whiff]

Right. And I'm trying To get this picture of Jimmy as a friend of mine.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay, so, what. Jimmy, how could you. What do you do for work? Kind of. We're trying to get Biff on your team.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We have a new. We have a new problem. Which is we got to make Biff like you.

[Jake Johnson]

But hold on.

[Biff Whiff]

That's part of it. That's a good idea. Biff is a lot easier if you like the guy.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah. So, Jimmy, what do you do? What are some traits about you? So we can get you. We can get Biff with you.

[Jimmy]

Let's see. So some traits are. I work in. I work in real estate.

[Jake Johnson]

What do you think of that?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Easy, Jimmy.

[Jimmy]

I'm a huge college football fan.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh.

[Jimmy]

He's up at the NFL. But my team is Clemson.

[Biff Whiff]

Okay, Clemson. Is that a team?

[Jimmy]

That's fine.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay. All right, Jimmy, wrong direction.

[Jake Johnson]

This is going sideways.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jimmy. Jimmy, what do you do?

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Biff Whiff]

For fun.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Do you ever go out, have a few pops?

[Jake Johnson]

Do you drink?

[Jimmy]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What's your drink of choice?

[Jimmy]

For fun? Oh, yeah. My drink of choice is gonna be any kind of light beer. Usually Coors Light. That's kind of my go to.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jimmy, you're letting a beer.

[Jake Johnson]

What's that? Hold on, Jimmy. We got the great Biff Whiffs about to say something. What are you thinking of that, Biff?

[Biff Whiff]

I'm thinking Coors Light isn't even beer, is it?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Boy, I'll tell you, when I. When he was answering, I was like, jimmy, I don't know if you know how much is hinging on this answer.

[Jake Johnson]

Jimmy, do you. Do you smoke weed?

[Jimmy]

All right, if I. If I'm letting my hair down, I'm going whiskey on the rocks. That's what I'm going to drink.

[Biff Whiff]

Okay. There you go. Now you're talking.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What kind of whiskey?

[Jimmy]

I have Angels, Envy at home. That's what I kind of drink for the most part.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay, I'm trying to get you, Jimmy. I'm trying to get you with Biff a little bit here. Do you smoke any weed?

[Jimmy]

Yes.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh.

[Biff Whiff]

Oh, okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay.

[Jake Johnson]

Now, how often are you a weed man?

[Jimmy]

Oh, man, like in every day. Every day?

[Nicole Byer]

Every day.

[Biff Whiff]

Every day. There you go.

[Jake Johnson]

And now, Jimmy, what kind of music do you like to listen to when you smoke a little bit of weed?

[Jimmy]

I like the graceful Dead. I'm a jam bands kind of guy.

[Biff Whiff]

Deadhead. Okay, now we're getting on the same page.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes. Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And Jimmy, you've probably taken a little acid at some point if you're a big deadhead guy, right? At some point you've taken a maybe a little bit, no.

[Jimmy]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

A little bit of acid.

[Biff Whiff]

Little bit.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay, so now hold on for a second now, Biff. I'm gonna go to you here.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sir.

[Biff Whiff]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Our buddy Jimmy the deadhead guy smokes a little weed. Likes a whiskey on the rocks, regular.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Salt of the earth, kind of fun guy.

[Jake Johnson]

He's at the table with him. We like him. Do. We love him, but we like him.

[Biff Whiff]

Okay.

[Jake Johnson]

His wife calls fucking her parents mommy and daddy. It's killing. It's killing. Jimmy. What can we say to Jimmy? I know you don't care, but it's grossing out our guy when he's jamming out to trucking and hitting a one hitter. It's ruining his vibe, man. He can't be Wavy Gravy with his mommy and daddy shit. Because I'll tell you what it doesn't do is it doesn't get the juices going downstairs when his hot wife is going mommy, Daddy.

[Biff Whiff]

So Biff said that while they're doing it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No. If that helps you, then.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah, but Biff, you got anything in your head just to start us off? How this guy can get his wife to stop saying Mommy and Daddy, mom.

[Biff Whiff]

And dad is okay with you, Jimmy?

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah. What about her parents?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I mean her parents, they like me. I mean if that. If that's yet like me, we all get along.

[Jake Johnson]

And when you brought it up to them and you said, what if we went mom and dad, would they say.

[Jimmy]

They were just like, why? Why do you need to do that? You know, like why? What's wrong with. And I'm like, well, I don't know. Just the connotation that a grown up.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

You know, I got a mommy, I got a couple.

[Jake Johnson]

Yeah. So here's my pitch around them. You refer to her as like bunky and you make her call you like Pumpkin man or something. So you're doing pet names around Mommy and daddy until they get a little bit of like a little bit off put. Right. So in front of her dad, if your wife is calling you like you know, some sort of pet name, what'd you think, Biff? What were you about to yell?

[Biff Whiff]

I was going to fight.

[Jake Johnson]

You went with Pumpkin? Pumpkin, yes.

[Biff Whiff]

I thought you wanted Bunky.

[Jake Johnson]

Bunky.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Bunkies. Worse.

[Jake Johnson]

But if she's Bunky and you're Pumpkin.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Bunny and Bunky and all of a.

[Jake Johnson]

Sudden it's happening, every sentence ends with that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Overdo it.

[Jake Johnson]

That you could overdo it to the point of. Then her parents get uncomfortable and you say, I have an idea. What if we cut all these. Your mom and dad, and I'm Jimmy and she's Jane, and you make an agreement as a group to stop with the names. Do you think something like that could work, Jimmy?

[Jimmy]

I think so. Because when we first started dating, we used babe and baby a lot, and they hated that.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, okay, good. That's what. So if they hate Babe and Baby, what are nicknames that could work for you and your partner? That's not silly, but really gross. What's the grossest stuff you guys could do that you know is in your wheelhouse, man?

[Jimmy]

I don't know. Something like Slobber Puss. I don't know.

[Jake Johnson]

Slobber Puss is as gross as it can. You almost made Caitlin our social media director barf.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Me. I gotta tell you, in my head, I'm like, he's not gonna. He's not gonna grab the ball and dunk it on this. But then you came up with that.

[Jake Johnson]

So if you call her. If you called her.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Search that on pornhub and have over a thousand results. That's awful.

[Jake Johnson]

If you called her.

[Biff Whiff]

That'S the. May have Slobber Puss. Yeah, I remember her. Jimmy's wife.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, no.

[Jake Johnson]

So what could she call you?

[Jimmy]

Oh, Dick. That's good. I only had one. I only had one.

[Jake Johnson]

So prepared. How crazy is this, Jimmy? And only if you're gonna really do it. But what if. What if. Called her Slobber Puss and she called you Slobber Dick.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God. You cannot.

[Jake Johnson]

But hold on, Jimmy. If you're looking to end an awkward mommy and daddy situation, and you, in a baby voice, called her Slobber Puss and she said, yes, it ends.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's going to hear Slobber Puss and make eye contact like, that was weird. And then when she comes back with, like, here's the mashed potatoes, Slobber Dick, they're going to be like, get the car. We need to get it. I don't know what's happening.

[Jake Johnson]

Very quickly, the vibe is going to change.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

But you could say, oh, yeah. I'm really sorry. These are just names we call ourselves when you guys aren't around. And then you go, if it's on. Sorry, sorry. And then you go, should we cool it with the names and just go to first names?

[Gareth Reynolds]

What's in a name? Yeah, right?

[Biff Whiff]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

Is that insane, Jimmy, or are we near a zone?

[Gareth Reynolds]

You might go, yeah, I think.

[Jimmy]

I think we're down the right track.

[Jake Johnson]

You do, Jimmy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All Right, Gareth, hold on, I'm. All I'm doing is talking real talk, Jimmy. You're telling me there's a world where mom and dad are over and you call your wife Slobber Puss and she's straight faced in front of mommy and daddy calls you slobber dick? And this is in the realm of possibility? If it is, I'm very excited.

[Jimmy]

There is a possibility for me to do slobber first. Absolutely. Because I'm kind of the. The joke. I don't know. Jokes are the family where I, I say, I say stuff that people are sometimes like, oh, you can't say that in front of her parents.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay.

[Jimmy]

But I don't know if I could get her to say slobber day.

[Jake Johnson]

Okay, good. What? Could you get her to say Sleepy man.

[Jimmy]

I don't know.

[Jake Johnson]

Sleepy man.

[Jimmy]

Why that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But sleep.

[Jake Johnson]

But sleepy man's. It's gross. It's in the vo. It's in the zone of mommy and Daddy. I'll say that if you're sleepy man. If I'm a fucking. If my daughters called their husband sleepy man in front of me, I would hate it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I got an idea how to just. What if she starts calling you daddy?

[Biff Whiff]

There you go.

[Jimmy]

You know, I thought about that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

If she started calling you Daddy, it at least brings up. Oh, well, I. I started calling her Slobber Puss and I, like, I wanted her to start calling me Daddy.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, makes it confusing.

[Jake Johnson]

You might be onto something. The zone of you guys calling each other Mommy and Daddy in front of them. Because never in a bedroom would a man and a woman having sex call each other mom and dad. No, it's never like, oh, dad. Oh, Dad. I always request papa, but the idea of saying like, mommy could be hot in some circles, mom is not.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, I like grandpa. I asked for that. Yes, during sex.

[Jake Johnson]

So what do you think about leaning into you guys say she goes, daddy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

You and him at the same time go, yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, which one are you talking.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh, that would gross him out.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It creates. It creates a confrontation, which is not a bad thing.

[Jake Johnson]

And then your dog, then your wife has to say like, I'm sorry, Dad. I was actually talking to Jimmy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sorry, dad.

[Jimmy]

This is good.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I was sorry to Jimmy.

[Jake Johnson]

Jimmy, where are you at? We might have fucking nailed this one.

[Jimmy]

I think that would work. Because even if she is just calling them Mommy and Daddy, we don't even have to have it planned. I'm just going to start answering.

[Jake Johnson]

That's it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's great.

[Jake Johnson]

Jimmy. You. You Know what? You got to run through fire on this one to get to the other side. But whenever she says daddy, if you respond, it's gonna kill her dad. And then the dad's gonna say, hold on, I'm Dad.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

And you go like this. Okay, sir, But I am Daddy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right. Yeah. What do you think, Jimmy? I mean, it feels like it was a group mind, but do you feel good about that?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, I can do that.

[Jake Johnson]

Will you please follow up with us after you do this?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Because I even request a crazier thing.

[Jake Johnson]

Film it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Just put your phone on record so we can overhear it.

[Jake Johnson]

Oh. If you get well, it's hard because it's. She's got to say daddy, then he's got to get the phone out.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, you just lay it down. Yeah. I record hours of Stand up just on audio files. It's creepy.

[Jimmy]

I can plan.

[Jake Johnson]

If you could plan a couple of them, and if you could record this, oh, you are a fucking king.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It would just be a lovely follow up.

[Biff Whiff]

Yeah.

[Jake Johnson]

So, Daddy, please try to pull that off.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, I'm telling you, just hearing Jake say it, it turns you on. No, Jimmy, we gotta go. Jake has some stuff.

[Jake Johnson]

If you can pull that off, it would be a massive win for you and the show, buddy.

[Jimmy]

I think I can.

[Jake Johnson]

All right, so let us know what happens, Jimmy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We look forward to it.

[Jake Johnson]

And, Mr. Biff.

[Biff Whiff]

Good talking with you, Jimmy. I hope this works out for you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There you go.

[Jake Johnson]

What a sweet ending.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, it really was.

[Jake Johnson]

You ran this guy through hell, and in the end, you. You ended with a cherry on top of the sun. You kicked the hell out of him, and then you said, but now you're friends.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Biff is the architect of the new terms. Slobber dick, which is fantastic.

[Jake Johnson]

Yes, that's right. Mr. Slobber Dick.

[Biff Whiff]

Mr. Slobber Dick.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you, B. Thank you, Daddy.

[Biff Whiff]

Thank you, Daddy.

[Jake Johnson]

We're Here to Help is hosted by Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds. If you'd like to be on the show, please email us your question@ Helpful Pod Gifts gmail.com. and if you want to watch video episodes of We're Here to Help, you can go to our [e-mail] hereto help pod to see our entire catalog.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're Here to Help is produced by Rabbit Grim Productions. Executive producers Rob Hollis, Jeff Porter and Natalie Hollis. Associate producer Jesse Thurston. Editing, mix and master by Chris Faller. Theme song by Oliver Raleigh. The COVID artwork is by James Fosdike. Animations by Andrew Strelecki. And if you'd like to see Gareth do stand up on the road, go to garethreynolds.com Remember, all of the advice given on We're Here to Help is for entertainment purposes only, and all listeners should be adults and make their own decisions.

[Jake Johnson]

All video episodes of season one are available now on Patreon, and season two video episodes will be available every Monday starting January 20th.

[Nicole Byer]

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