162: Very Hilaria & Send in the Clown

Summary

Podcast Summary: "We're Here to Help" – Episode 162: Very Hilaria & Send in the Clown

Release Date: April 14, 2025
Hosts: Jake Johnson & Gareth Reynolds
Platform: Headgum

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Episode Overview

In Episode 162 of We're Here to Help, titled Very Hilaria & Send in the Clown, hosts Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds delve into two unique caller dilemmas ranging from cultural faux pas to family dynamics involving clown personas. Through their characteristic humor and candid banter, the duo offers heartfelt, albeit unconventional, advice to their listeners.

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Call 1: Navigating Awkward Cultural Interactions

Caller: Olivia
Timestamp: [15:50] – [60:19]

Issue:
Olivia, a 27-year-old married woman recently relocated from Florida to Chicago with her husband and family, grapples with her mother-in-law's (MIL) attempts to connect with locals in Spain. While her MIL's intentions are genuine—trying to relate by speaking Spanish—the execution often comes off as awkward and forced, making interactions uncomfortable for Olivia and her family.

Discussion Highlights:

• Cultural Sensitivity:
  Olivia explains, "My husband is taking Spanish lessons, but I don't think that’s going to stop her from trying to relate to people awkwardly."
  [19:57]

• Consequences of Forced Relatability:
  Gareth humorously compares her MIL's behavior to someone trying too hard, stating, "It's like, annoying American that goes to Spain and puts that look on the whole group."
  [20:02]

• Proposed Solutions:
  Natalie suggests leveraging media, such as podcast clips, to subtly inform her MIL about the cultural nuances in Spain.
  [22:28]

• Collaborative Strategy:
  The hosts and Olivia brainstorm creating a faux podcast episode to gently convey the message to her MIL without causing offense.
  [25:07]

Resolution:
Olivia decides to produce a mock podcast clip addressing the issue, aiming to broadcast it to her entire travel group to collectively address and mitigate her MIL's awkward attempts at cultural connection.

Notable Quotes:

• Olivia: "I want to stop her from being the annoying American that goes to Spain and puts that look on the whole group."
  [20:02]

• Gareth: "It's like, annoying American that goes to Spain and puts that look on the whole group."
  [20:02]

• Natalie: "Maybe just specific to Spain right now because they're about to go and maybe you send it to your dad and your dad is going to share it with her."
  [22:28]

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Call 2: Balancing Family Fun with Personal Boundaries

Caller: Veronica (alias)
Timestamp: [61:49] – [75:40]

Issue:
Veronica seeks advice on managing her husband's discomfort with her new clown persona, Bobo the Clown, which she adopted to entertain their children. While the kids adore Bobo, her husband Vic feels uneasy and avoids interacting when she is in costume, creating tension in their household.

Discussion Highlights:

• Understanding the Root Cause:
  Gareth probes, "Are you afraid of clowns?" prompting Vic to clarify, "No, I don't think so."
  [49:14]

• Character Dynamics:
  The hosts explore the possibility that Vic's discomfort stems from jealousy or insecurity rather than a fear of clowns.
  [45:05]

• Creative Problem-Solving:
  Natalie and Gareth propose that Veronica and Vic develop complementary characters to enrich their interactions.
  [51:15]

  • Veronica could become the Ringmaster, giving Vic a authoritative role that balances Bobo’s playful antics.

• Role-Playing for Resolution:
  The trio envisions a scenario where Vic dons a mustache and bowler hat, embodying a ringmaster figure who can harmonize interactions with Bobo, thereby easing Vic's discomfort and fostering a fun environment for their children.

Resolution:
Veronica embraces the idea of Vic adopting a ringmaster persona, enabling both parents to engage in their playful roles without causing personal discomfort. This approach aims to create balanced family interactions that cater to both the children's enjoyment and the parents' comfort.

Notable Quotes:

• Veronica: "I think he is scared because he does not look at me and no eye contact."
  [45:39]

• Natalie: "It sounds like. Because when we heard the profile of you, we thought maybe there was some jealousy."
  [48:54]

• Gareth: "Would you like a podcast clip to send to your dad that you say, hey, I just heard this from a wildly popular podcast..."
  [24:51]

• Veronica: "It’s not very elaborate or anything... It’s like a half human clown hybrid."
  [37:57]

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Follow-Up Call: Empowering Entrepreneurship Amid Workplace Challenges

Caller: Bill (alias: Parmesan)
Timestamp: [61:49] – [75:40]

Issue:
Bill, a middle-aged employee from Arkansas, shares his frustration with a coworker who insists on removing her shoes and walking barefoot in their shared cubicle. His attempts to address the behavior—ranging from humorous pitches like "Parmesan on the Floor" to more direct conversations—proved ineffective, ultimately leading him to resign and start his own cookie business.

Discussion Highlights:

• Initial Problem-Solving Efforts:
  Bill recounts how he tried various creative solutions suggested by the hosts, such as introducing distractions with critters and addressing the issue's underlying motivations.
  [63:54]

• Consequences of Inaction:
  After exhausting all options with minimal success, Bill's supervisor advised him to work from home, prompting Bill to leave his job altogether.
  [65:54]

• Transition to Entrepreneurship:
  Embracing his passion, Bill launches Middle Child Cookies, focusing on creating community-oriented, high-quality cookies.
  [68:04]

• Supportive Advice from Hosts:
  Jake and Gareth encourage Bill to utilize platforms like Squarespace to establish his online presence and offer promotional support to help his business thrive.
  [69:15]

Resolution:
Bill successfully transitions from a challenging work environment to entrepreneurship, leveraging the hosts' advice to build his cookie business, which emphasizes community and quality.

Notable Quotes:

• Bill: "I had to be around them. Because I don't know, I."
  [66:43]

• Gareth: "Okay, so we'll promote your business... We got to get you some cookies."
  [72:09]

• Natalie: "I think we've got something. These cookies are all about community."
  [72:56]

• Bill: "Middle child Cookies. Cookies that deserve attention."
  [71:28]

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Conclusion

In this episode, We're Here to Help continues its tradition of blending humor with genuine advice, addressing diverse issues from cultural sensitivities to family dynamics and workplace challenges. Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds demonstrate their commitment to supporting listeners through creative and empathetic solutions, all while maintaining their signature comedic flair.

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Don’t Miss Next Episode:
Stay tuned for future episodes where Jake and Gareth continue to tackle your questions with their unique blend of humor and heartfelt advice. To be a part of the conversation, email your questions to [e-mail].

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Notable Quotes Compilation:

• Olivia on Cultural Interactions:
  "I want to stop her from being the annoying American that goes to Spain and puts that look on the whole group."
  [20:02]

• Veronica on Clown Persona:
  "I think he is scared because he does not look at me and no eye contact."
  [45:39]

• Bill on Entrepreneurship:
  "Middle child Cookies. Cookies that deserve attention."
  [71:28]

• Jake on Cultural Faux Pas:
  "It's like, annoying American that goes to Spain and puts that look on the whole group."
  [20:02]

• Gareth on Creative Solutions:
  "Would you like a podcast clip to send to your dad that you say, hey, I just heard this from a wildly popular podcast..."
  [24:51]

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This episode exemplifies the hosts' ability to transform personal challenges into opportunities for growth and laughter, reinforcing the show's mission to be the friendly local bartender offering advice—even if it's not always perfect.

Transcript

[Jake Johnson]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

And we are back.

[Natalie]

We are back.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Gareth is running something special.

[Natalie]

That's a lot of pressure because I.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Was going to have today say Eric.

[Natalie]

Edelstein on yours is better. Okay, Yours is better.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, we didn't because that attack and I were texted.

[Natalie]

I was.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And she said, gareth has something. But then what else happened in that text, Nat? Gareth just stopped responding to me. And I said disappeared. And I said it happens all the time.

[Natalie]

Lies. Lies.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm looking at 100%.

[Natalie]

Here is the last.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, he responded later. Like hours later. Here's the last. The night before they're recording. She's got to produce it.

[Natalie]

Excuse me. Excuse me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You think she's gonna stay up till 2am?

[Natalie]

Excuse me. The last text. Good night. See you tomorrow. Okay, from now.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Good nights.

[Natalie]

So who left you hanging, by the way?

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, that's not leaving you hanging. That saying good night. What time was that, by the way?

[Natalie]

That was at 11:30pm yeah. Yeah.

[Bill]

Put me on the hook to get.

[Natalie]

I was.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm a comedian woman with children and. And a full time job.

[Natalie]

I was. This is just. Wow. All right, you know, this is a pretty good intro. Well, here's what I wanted to do. Jake, by the way. By the way, Jake. This is from when you first. I had it all set up and ready to go. We had it all prepped, produced as they call it in the business. And then somebody. Somebody didn't show up to the recording. Now you might say, I told you guys I couldn't, but Natalie, Nat attack. What were we saying? He hearted. Why is everyone looking at me like this? He harded.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't know what you're saying.

[Natalie]

Because he hearted. A text. Remember the recording where I had this. I had my guest all set up to come on.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Natalie, do you honest to God understand what's happening here? Because this feels like. This feels like a guy's going crazy and I'm honestly worried and I'm wondering if things are different post ayahuasca and I'm.

[Natalie]

Everyone Turn off your video so I could talk without the judging eyes, Sherlock.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're a man who solves crimes. Is anything Gareth just said? Was that English?

[Natalie]

Come on, Sherlock. Well, what I know is that we. We really thought you were going to be there at the last recording, and then you weren't. Cook. Sherlock. But I don't know whose fault that is. But the wires got crossed.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay.

[Natalie]

Might be natural.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, I understand. I was. Oh, now I get it. I got confused.

[Natalie]

So the one where I was doing.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The Taco Bell, I was.

[Natalie]

I had a guest lined up. Someone.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now I get it.

[Natalie]

To validate a conversation we had. So we had a conversation about bowling. You know, we were talking about our best bowling scores.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You got some geek from Milwaukee who you went to school with, who wants to get free tickets to you to see you live and take a selfie with you.

[Natalie]

Jake, can I.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're like, dude, I'll give you a shirt. Back me up. And they're like, no way I'm around Gareth Reynolds. Wow. Can I get a selfie?

[Natalie]

Jake, first of all, that happened.

[Gareth Reynolds]

If it ain't Pete Weber, I ain't interested.

[Natalie]

Hey, I talked. I talked about a 212 that I bowled, and you. Oh, no. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. I did. I bowled a 212. And I remember all your things.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Just about you.

[Natalie]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The whole entrail.

[Natalie]

Quiet. And so I was bowling with a friend of mine when the 212 happened. So I contacted the friend and I said, hey, you remember when I got that?

[Gareth Reynolds]

We ain't doing four minutes of this voicemail call.

[Natalie]

It's not a voicemail. He was on video. He just had surgery. He just had hip surgery. And I wanted it to validate if.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He talks about your best bits from when you were younger.

[Natalie]

He's talking about the 212 now. Let's go. Come on, now. Quiet, Jake. Here we go, Billy boy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hey.

[Natalie]

Hey. Your Internet is pretty good.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It is.

[Natalie]

Well, you know, that's a compliment.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Good and bad days.

[Natalie]

Isn't that how we talk in the. Where you live? You sort of walk down the street and say to people like, your Internet's good. And you're like, morning. Well, Bill, I'm not gonna fucking producer of the year. Gary, jump ahead a little. Hurry up. Jake's judging me. Oh, and crutches. There's a lot going on.

[Bill]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is your buddy. So you guys are the same age.

[Natalie]

Jake was supposed to be here so that I could gloat about the 212. Oh, and he missed the record. He never missed a recording before. So now we're doing an intro where I'm still talking about it. And I want you to come back. What everyone already knows, which is. All right, we'll let it go now. A212. Yes. Did happen.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It happened. I agree.

[Natalie]

You were there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, well, this is a really reliable. Who's this guy?

[Natalie]

It's my buddy, Bill.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, Bill says it's true. I. I didn't paid much attention when we bowled, but I remember because he talked about it. Yeah. That makes. He doesn't remember. He just remembers you talking about it.

[Natalie]

These kinks out, right, G. This doesn't.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hold up in court back until talk to.

[Natalie]

Yeah. And you're. I'll tell you, your corroboration game so far is.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Let me ask you this, Bill.

[Natalie]

We can stop it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Did you see me in Syracuse ever? What'd you think of the show?

[Natalie]

All right, so look, what I wanted to tell you was that his corroboration was not good and you missed it. And. And I. I tried to work out the kinks with him. He admitted he was on a lot of pills from hip surgery, but this is all he remembered was that I talked about it a lot. But it happened. But it happened.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Gareth. Gareth. First of all, this isn't a reveal.

[Natalie]

It's not a reveal.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is just another chance to have another fan on talking.

[Natalie]

Not a fan. That's my friend Bill Byer. He's a great man.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The whole call was. You know what the whole call was, Gareth? A guy your age. You guys look the same age.

[Natalie]

Because.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You guys grew up together. So if you didn't dye your beard gingerbread.

[Natalie]

Dye my beard? Who would choose this color for dye?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ew. It looks good with your skin tone. And guess what? It's not your real skin tone because you have a lot of bass on that.

[Natalie]

You are. This is. Now you're. You keep. You keep getting more cocky, Johnson.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You keep pushing 3 pounds of foundation with a ginger painted beer.

[Natalie]

You're liberating me. And the audience won't accept it. The audience won't take it. All right. No, no. We have a line, Jake. It's just. You're pushing.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We do this for 20 years. Please start wearing makeup on an audio only show. Do you remember Garrett? Do you remember Steve Berg and Hoops for the PR day?

[Natalie]

Oh, my. Tell the story, then we'll get out of here.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jump in. Jump in. During it.

[Natalie]

Well, well, okay. So this is for your show. This is our show.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Our show. Our show. Yes.

[Natalie]

Which was on Netfl. It was still is forever. Yeah, it is. It was. It's a funny show. It was animated show.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ben Hoffman wrote it.

[Natalie]

Yeah, Ben Hoffman. It was about a foul mouth basketball coach played by Jake Berg was one of the team members on it. So we probably had about six team members on the team who were kids and. And there was a PR day. There was a day where everyone. And again, we should just point out audio only. Why don't you pick up from there?

[Gareth Reynolds]

So Gareth was one of our. Had writers eps on it and they were doing a day where we were all doing press. So the press was really just talking about the show. It was just for Netflix. They weren't doing a big hard push on it. So everybody just went in, did the day. We were all there together. Doing bits was fun. We're all going. I can't remember who all was, but everybody who was involved in the show came through.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then, yeah, towards the end something happened. I don't remember how it was real revealed. I think we were all talking afterwards about like that was fun and it was good to see everybody. And I'm sure you and I were together.

[Natalie]

Yes, yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then realized that Steve Berg's skin was glowing.

[Natalie]

We didn't even realize all of Jake. Jake. Jake really had. It's just, he's got that Terminator. Something happened and Jake starts squinting and columboing Berg. And he goes, bergie, are you wearing makeup? And Berg's like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

A little touch up, I'm sure.

[Natalie]

Yeah. They offered me a little makeup and I said yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. He goes, he's like, just for the cameras.

[Natalie]

We went around and asked everyone else if they wanted makeup, if they had any. And everyone's like, yeah, I was offered, I said no, what are you talking about? Berg was the only one who took the makeup.

[Gareth Reynolds]

They added as a courtesy. As a courtesy. They went by and goes, did anybody want to be touched up and have makeup done? Nobody said yes because it's not for anyone. It's just. Do you want someone to put makeup on your face?

[Natalie]

And he was, he, he looked, he looked like George Hamilton. He like had a good amount on. He was kind of cakey.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He had a new handkerchief so his sweat didn't mess with his makeup.

[Natalie]

You, you could, you know, you could tell. It's like it's on camera. You can't tell when in person you're like, oh, what's going on? Like, if you ever see a newscaster doing the news, you're like, whoa, the best. Berg had this orangey hue and he. And you could tell he was so embarrassed cuz Jake's doing what he does. Just going bergy. Everyone said no. Didn't it seem weird? Why didn't you seem weird when you were the only one they were doing it to? Like go relax. I had a little time.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm so sorry. I look, I'm sorry I'm handsome. I don't look like a rat.

[Natalie]

Sorry everyone's all over me and they want to work with me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sorry that ladies are interested in watching my clips. Sorry everybody. Gareth and I and Morgan all did high Strangeness. So go check out anywhere you get a podcast High Strangeness. Check out what Berg is doing over there. It's really fun. If you're interested in the strange, he is as good of a host as he gets. I loved talking with him on his. I expected him to be to be way more all over the place, but the guy's taking it seriously and he's really hosted.

[Natalie]

He's great. And watch his video on Patreon because you get to see him sans makeup. Oh, natural. It's a beautiful look without that glow. Anyway, enjoy this episode and without further ado.

[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Natalie]

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[Natalie]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Natalie]

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[Natalie]

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[Natalie]

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[Olivia]

Hello.

[Natalie]

Hi. Welcome to the show. How's it going?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hello. Good.

[Olivia]

How are you?

[Natalie]

Good. Where are you calling from?

[Olivia]

I am calling from the western suburbs of Chicago.

[Natalie]

Chicago. There we go. And can we get whatever name you're going to use, real or fake?

[Olivia]

Yes. Olivia.

[Natalie]

Olivia. All right. Thank you. Rough age.

[Olivia]

27.

[Natalie]

And are you from Chicago originally or you move there? Is that a relocation zone?

[Olivia]

A relocation, yeah, we're enjoying it so far, but we moved here from Florida, so a little colder.

[Natalie]

Okay. All right. And who's we? You and your significant other?

[Olivia]

Yes, me and my husband.

[Natalie]

Okay, husband. Great. All right. 27 married. Commitment early. Good job. That's a good sign. Feeling pretty good. Chicago. Olivia, what is going on?

[Olivia]

Okay, so first, I guess I wanted to say I am a huge New Girl fan. Like, have probably watched every single season it over 30 times. So I feel like I just have to give that to you all. Great show.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, we. We. We appreciate it.

[Olivia]

Yes, it is.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Everybody. Everybody appreciates it. Except for Lamorne, because.

[Olivia]

Oh, I know.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I was actually just with him the other night. We were celebrating Tess Sanchez's new book. We all got together. It was really nice. It was Damon, Max, Lamorn and I. It was so nice to see everybody. And Lamorne literally said, oh, I didn't know you guys were gonna be here. I thought the Fargo cast was gonna be here. I can't be seen taking photos with you guys. And literally Max was like, this was about my wife and celebrating her. And he goes, nah, nah, nah. It's all about me. And he left. Go ahead, Olivia.

[Natalie]

Wow.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Piece of. He's a piece of. Then there was kids outside from a.

[Natalie]

No, Jake, don't. Come on.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Orphanage.

[Natalie]

Oh, my Lord.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What do you do? Well, Max, Damon and I were out there giving them food, talking to them, advice. Lamorne came and took the food and ate it himself.

[Natalie]

He ate the orphan grub.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Go ahead, Olivia. He's a piece of shit. He's a.

[Natalie]

Sorry, Olivia.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now I'm mad. Olivia.

[Natalie]

Sorry, Olivia. You could still watch the show. Just skip some of the scenes that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He'S favorite when he's on. I asked you to fast forward.

[Natalie]

I actually think there's an app where you can watch the show without Lamore.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There's any app developers who could cut a scene from New Girl, but blur him out.

[Natalie]

Lamore.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And put Garrett's voice over.

[Natalie]

I'm available to do the V line us.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And we will post.

[Natalie]

We will post. It will become the Wednesday shows.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is about you. What do we got? What's the situation today?

[Olivia]

So I am. Myself and my husband are going to Spain in May with my dad, his wife and my brother, my sister and her Boyfriend and my. I know.

[Natalie]

Keep going. Plow through. Hurry up. Keep going.

[Olivia]

My dad's wife is very nice. We like her a lot. However, other states just within the United States, where if she sees for. So for example, we were in Colorado at a hotel. He saw we had leftover cookies because she had bought like 50 cookies for five people because, again, she's very nice, but too many cookies. So he saw some of the cleaning staff and the cleaning staff look to be Hispanic. And so what she likes to do is try to relate to everyone. However, it can come off as a little.

[Natalie]

It's kind of what some people on the show might be going for a.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Little bit, just trying to relate.

[Natalie]

So, Olivia, keep going. But I think I can hear the problem even through some terrible Spanish.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Natalie]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Olivia]

He'll walk up and be like, hola. And then kind of try to.

[Natalie]

It's kind of annoying. It's. It's kind of strange because the person's not fluent and it's kind of trying to, like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's like, annoying.

[Natalie]

Yeah. See, the fact that you don't know how to say annoying makes the whole. It's kind of. Honestly, it's kind of.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hilaria Baldwin.

[Natalie]

Yes. It's very hilarious. Exactly. Jake, how you say cucumber?

[Gareth Reynolds]

You say cucumber.

[Natalie]

Cucumber. I'm from Boston. How do you say cucumber? I was born in Massachusetts.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Incredible character. Okay, so mother in law jumps into a little Hilaria Baldwin.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

When she's around. Whatever culture she's around.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And also, this is my brother Dan. Keep going.

[Olivia]

Well, yeah, but so we kind of realized that. Okay, this is actually probably going to be a problem when we go to Spain and she is going to want to try to, you know, relate people and their language, but she does not know it. So my husband has actually preemptively tried to curb this problem and he's taking Spanish lessons, but I don't think that that's going to. That will help, like, him be able to, you know, ask questions and communicate, but it won't necessarily stop her from trying to do that. And so I want to. I. How do we stop her from going and doing this and being kind of like, you know, the annoying American that goes to Spain and puts that look on the whole group.

[Natalie]

Well, it's a great problem. I. I think we got. What I would suggest is some version of. You have to make her see this is a faux pas. She, you know, like, I don't like your husband learning. It is great. And it Might be good for him to overly communicate. And that kind of shames her rudimentary Spanish into silencing. But it's probably not going to work enough. I think you probably want to have something, some sort of media, dare I say a podcast clip or something where the people are talking about how frowned upon that is in other countries. Or maybe just specific to Spain right now because they're about to go and maybe you send it to your dad and your dad is going to share it with her. Jake.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I mean, I think it's very smart. I'm wondering where Olivia is because I'm still trying to figure out. KSU problemo cone? Yeah. Madre de la.

[Natalie]

It's annoying. It's like because. Can I answer? Olivia, this is why? Because it's then the spokesperson of the group. See, it's. It makes the person seem.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's like when you go out to dinner.

[Natalie]

Stop talking your bad Spanish. It's like when you go out to dinner and someone's like annoying to the waiter and you're like, okay, well now like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Is.

[Natalie]

What do you mean? Mucho hombre. Many, many brother. What are you saying?

[Gareth Reynolds]

I have. I'm hungry.

[Natalie]

I don't think that's what you said.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Tango. I have hungry. Tango. Mucho hombre ombre is hunger. I have a lot of hunger.

[Natalie]

Yes, See, that's the problem, right? Olivia.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I need to use the bathroom.

[Natalie]

Yeah, but just could. You could say banyo. But just. It's weird. Gracias is fine. It's when you're just a approaching randos and like initiating it. It's weird.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So, Olivia, I am your mother in law.

[Natalie]

No.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Really? You didn't. You just figured out. Whoa. I thought she thought she her was a Spanish speaker. So, Olivia, the problem for you is you're looking to shame mamano.

[Olivia]

I don't know if necessarily shame just. I think that she feels like she is doing this to be nice to people. And I don't think that it comes across as nice.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Would you like a podcast clip to send to your dad that you say, hey, I just heard this from a wildly popular podcast, the number one podcast in America. It's called we're here to help. And they did a conversation in one of their intros and we could do a fake intro about how we just went to sleep and we saw this.

[Olivia]

I think that can work. Would that.

[Bill]

Do you think that.

[Olivia]

But then does she think that we.

[Bill]

Know that it's a problem, right?

[Natalie]

Like what we say we can do it in a way where it's kind of just generally about.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Are you saying here. But here's the problem. If you connect it to our show, then eventually this episode's going to come out. Was that to fear Olivia?

[Natalie]

No. They're not gonna listen, right? Oh, really?

[Olivia]

If I send her or I send my dad a podcast, right? And I say, like, would I say, hey, like, we noticed that, you know, Lisa says she sends.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Here's what you say here. No, I got. I got the answer. I got the answer. You send this audio clip. No visual. It's just audio to everybody and said just heard this clip. Took it from Instagram. Don't know the show. But it's a heads up about Spain. It's not just to mother everybody. It's Piggly and Mo.

[Natalie]

And we just did. We just went to Spain and there was a trip.

[Gareth Reynolds]

There's. We talk to a lot of the people.

[Natalie]

It's so fun. We make it a little about how great Spain is, then we talk. Okay, here we go. We're going to give you the clip right now. Okay.

[Olivia]

Okay.

[Natalie]

All right, here we go in three.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wait, who's Piggly and who's Mo?

[Natalie]

Hey, I'm Piggy. I look like. No, I'm Piggly. Yeah, Mo. Mo from the Three Stooges. Come on.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We're.

[Natalie]

Dust off the old character.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Here we go.

[Natalie]

Three, two, one.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ah.

[Natalie]

And we just had such. I. I wanted to bring up the trip to Spain. Oh, please. We're trying to talk a little bit more about our personal life. So we were in Spain for about.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Two weeks, but there was a big problem.

[Natalie]

Well, first, what a trip. I mean, Spain. The rumors are true. Spain is beautiful.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And we've got to give a shout out to booking.com.

[Natalie]

Again. We love them. The one thing we noticed, okay, as you know, we were trying to get our. Our Spanish as good as possible, but we didn't have time. We're very busy with the success.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, because what's the app we use?

[Natalie]

Well, obviously we use Babel. We love Babel.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wonderful sponsor.

[Natalie]

Wonderful.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And we would recommend if it's faster than going to a university.

[Natalie]

All right. But we're not in the ad part right now, Mo, so let's. Let's stick to what we came here to talk about.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're right, baby.

[Natalie]

Well, please. And we. We really tried to relate to the Spanish people when we were.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We had so much fun. I only wish we got two bedrooms.

[Natalie]

We were approaching people with an ola a Como esta?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yo tango mucho Andre para igli.

[Natalie]

I think it was. I think the problem was we noticed pretty quickly that they didn't like the fact that we were just trying to quickly relate to them.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is correct.

[Natalie]

This level. And we found it was better when interacting with even people at restaurants who are serving us to just speak a little bit.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That. Start again. This is exactly right, though. Let's go. Harsh.

[Natalie]

Okay. Okay. All right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

In three, two, one. Hey, M. Hey, Mr. Pigley.

[Natalie]

Yes, Mo. We're back for break. We, you know, let's start again.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And we're right in the middle of it.

[Natalie]

Okay, great. I agree. And that's why I love empanadas.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes. But the. The issue.

[Natalie]

Okay, yeah. Specifically, go ahead, man. This is.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And I. I think it's everywhere.

[Natalie]

I wonder. But it was definitely in Spain, but.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And it's with the locals. So this is a warning to anyone traveling.

[Natalie]

Yes, absolutely. You'll have a good time. Keep your wallet in your front pocket. But the best thing when. Well, go ahead, Mo. Go ahead.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you. If entering Spain as a tourist, do not attempt to practice your Spanish. Do not attempt not use an accent. If you are fluid, wonderful. If you are not, they know you are a tourist, and it offends the people.

[Natalie]

Pick a lane. What we found was pick a lane. If you're not fluent, just sit on the sidelines. You can get far enough ahead. The last thing you want to do is be that ugly American pretending that you're Spanish because you know three words.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my.

[Natalie]

Rolling was endless.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, and another thing that I was thinking about with the. And we cut somewhere right in there.

[Natalie]

Great.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Olivia, what do you think of that? A harsh cut in and a harsh cut out.

[Olivia]

I like that. And I think that would work. I think they would. I think she would catch on for sure.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I do, too. And it goes to everybody in a text chain.

[Olivia]

I. That is the key. I think that it has to go to everyone that's going on the trip so that it's like a essay to the whole group, to the whole.

[Natalie]

God, dare I say on the email, you can kind of point it in the direction of your husband. So you kind of make it seem like you're doing this to throw a little shade in your husband's direction, but the real culprit is going to pick up on the general thrust of the argument as well.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then it's keeping embarrassment away from mom in law.

[Natalie]

Yes. So you say whatever your husband's name is. Hey, guys. Was just listening to my favorite podcast and they actually talked about their trip to Spain, and it reminded me of someone. Grant. Lol. But give a listen. They really enjoyed their trip. So excited.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I think that's great. What do you think, Olivia?

[Olivia]

Yeah, I think that will definitely work.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Me, too. Do you have a text group where everybody's on?

[Natalie]

I do, yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Can you send us a screen grab of the responses and we'll block out all the names?

[Olivia]

For sure. I can definitely do that.

[Natalie]

And maybe we tee up your husband to be the first to reply after you send it to say, oh, fine, I get you. I won't be practicing my Spanish on the locals.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Note taken.

[Natalie]

Note taken, Olivia.

[Olivia]

Okay. Yes, I like that, too. I can definitely do that.

[Natalie]

Great.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Let me just say this preemptively, but you could ring the bell right now.

[Natalie]

I mean, I hate to get cocky, but unfortunately, Olivia, we're giving it a ringy ding, ding, ding.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, follow up with us. But simply to celebrate, obviously. Just call up and go. Remind us who it are, and then we'll go. I hope you had a wonderful trip to Spain.

[Natalie]

This call was. We. We solved the problem so quickly, but it really has highlighted the issue with kind of Lamorn and his treatment of the new girl fans and the orphans outside.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. So, Olivia, thank you. Follow up with us. We'll get you this clip right away. And then maybe follow up with us when you're in Spain.

[Natalie]

Definitely. Yeah. I'm curious to see if she really does take the note when she.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, actually, let's follow up. Post Spain.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Because I don't really know if it's.

[Bill]

A bell, the screen grab, and then.

[Olivia]

I'll also let you know how it goes.

[Natalie]

Awesome.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're the best.

[Natalie]

Thanks, Olivia.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hello.

[Veronica]

Hello.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How are you?

[Veronica]

Good. A little nervous.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Why are you nervous?

[Veronica]

I don't know.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's just a radio show on the Internet.

[Veronica]

I know that no one will find out my secret.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, we'll keep it. Really? We'll. We'll camouflage you. So how about this? Let me give you a name. Veronica.

[Vic]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, how about this? You're from San Francisco. Okay, Veronica.

[Veronica]

I'm close to San Francisco.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You are? Okay, Veronica. Don't give away any secrets. Remember what you just said to me. So, Veronica, San Francisco. Not close to it. Now, tell me this. If you're in the goddamn jungle, Veronica, you're being chased by something. It's scary and exciting. You turn a corner, there's a cave. You run in the cave. The cave is dark. You realize you're trapped. But wait, there's something in the cave. Can you see it, Veronica?

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What is it that you're seeing in the Cave?

[Veronica]

It's a boa constrictor. Wait, is it supposed to be saving me?

[Natalie]

Yeah. Veronica, she's in the cave. Is the an. Are you looking for the animal?

[Gareth Reynolds]

So then what now, Veronica? What's chasing you, though?

[Veronica]

Okay, I was thinking a cougar.

[Gareth Reynolds]

A cougar's chasing you, by the way. Veronica, you just told me everything you need to know. Because what Gareth thought is the thing was saving me. What you think is they're coming after you at all sides.

[Natalie]

Well, she was confused, too. I don't think you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is a very psychological study.

[Natalie]

I don't think this has ever been said by anyone with any hint of professionalism. Doctors do this? Absolutely not. If a doctor heard what you just did, they would be like, I need to help this guy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Veronica, thank you for letting me fully understand your psyche.

[Natalie]

Okay, Veronica.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's what I was trying to do.

[Natalie]

Yeah, of course. Veronica. What?

[Gareth Reynolds]

He's your favorite color.

[Natalie]

What's going on? What can we help you with?

[Veronica]

Okay, so a couple of years ago, I was messing around with some new makeup, and I thought I looked clownish, so I went with it and added a red smile and some pigtails, and I came out to my kids as Bobo the Clown.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Fun.

[Veronica]

And I started acting. I don't do this stuff. My husband's a fun one. So I started acting like a clown and trying to juggle and doing all this clown stuff, and my kids loved it more than I thought they.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Veronica]

So I don't know how to juggle. So now they always talk about Bobo. They always want Bobo around. That day, I noticed my husband was avoiding me and not making any eye contact, acting like a weirdo. So I started messing with him and taking off his glasses and all that stuff, and the kids thought it was hilarious. So later my husband said he's glad the kids love Bobo, but he hates Bobo. And he said he doesn't have a. Yeah, he's used to getting all the praise.

[Natalie]

I get that. Yeah.

[Veronica]

Yeah. So he says he doesn't have a phobia, but the way he acts seems like a phobia. Like, he doesn't look at me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, I think he's afraid of Bobo.

[Veronica]

I think he is because he doesn't look at me. He acts scared, but he says he's not scared. He just says he hates clowns. So my question is, how can I get him to clown around with me or at least interact with Bobo? Because Bobo's running out of ideas and bits to entertain my kids.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Interesting call. This is high level How.

[Natalie]

How old are your kids?

[Gareth Reynolds]

41.

[Veronica]

They're four and eight.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay.

[Natalie]

Okay. So they're right in the heart of Bobo time.

[Veronica]

Yeah. So they're gonna get over it soon. But.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And Veronica, how many times has Bobo been to your house?

[Veronica]

Well, maybe eight times. She'll come for holidays or they want her to come for their birthdays.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Really? With other friends. They're not embarrassed by that?

[Veronica]

No, no. This nobody knows about Bobo. It's just between my family.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So I got you. They wanted for like their holidays, but just for the family.

[Veronica]

Yeah, they're always asking for her to come out and come play and all that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay. Before we do anything else, Veronica. Yeah. Gareth and I are going to close our eyes a little bit. Can you do a little bit? Can you bring Bobo on the call a little bit and give us a little taste of the performance?

[Natalie]

We have a visual aid also. I don't want that now or later.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But hold on, Veronica, are we allowed to post this on Instagram?

[Veronica]

I don't. They said they would blur it a little, but I feel like it takes away from. Because it's just makeup.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hold up. But hold on. Before Gareth and I see it. I only want to see it if our audience can see it. Because if we see it and they don't, there's going to be a jump. So.

[Natalie]

Yeah, but I don't want.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't want. But I don't want you, Veronica, to feel like we are go. I don't want you to get caught if you don't want to get caught.

[Natalie]

She doesn't want to post it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So no post, Veronica. Or post.

[Veronica]

Well, if you could figure out like a way to little blaming blurry the eyes a little. Because I did the background a little bit.

[Natalie]

Why don't we look at it, Jake, and see if it's possible.

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Let's just say to our audience, look, we might have to just describe this one because.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes. Or we might have to put like a little like one of those like black bars over her eyes.

[Natalie]

Yeah, we could black bar the Bobo.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, let's see the. And get ready, Veronica, because I am gonna need Bobo on this call at some point.

[Natalie]

Yeah, obviously.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But don't start just.

[Natalie]

You gotta just start dipping in. But.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, but yeah, exactly. Right. Start dipping in. Okay.

[Natalie]

Oh, okay. Much different than what I expected. What did you think?

[Gareth Reynolds]

I gotta say, Veronica. Way cuter than I expected.

[Natalie]

I agree. I was picturing like actual full on clown.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I gotta tell you the reason.

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Is because he's got in a lot of Mixed feelings.

[Natalie]

I think you're right.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He's like, I don't think Bobo belongs with the children.

[Natalie]

Yeah. No, it's. Bobo is very. It's. It's like a half human clown hybrid.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes, exactly right.

[Veronica]

It's so simple and, like, the kids loved it. And it wasn't. It's not very elaborate or anything.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, but it's a. You know what it is? It looks like. It looks like if, like Heath Ledger's Joker had a girlfriend.

[Natalie]

Interesting. Very much. It's very Marvel.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[Natalie]

It's your brunettes, and you've got your hair and pigtails. You've got the obvious big red clown nose, and you've just kind of given yourself an exaggerated lipstick smile.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes. But you also have a shadow. A heavy eyeshadow is right.

[Veronica]

Yeah. It's very glittery, too. You can't see in the picture.

[Natalie]

We could black bar out the eyes and share.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I do, too. My opinion, you know, who you look like in terms of the aesthetic. This feels like I'm at Comic Con. What was the movie with Margot Robbie?

[Natalie]

Oh.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I could see you if you were in, like, little hot pants and a T shirt, walking around Comic Con as that kind of clown. That's what I didn't expect. I thought it was gonna be more like Cookie from the old Bozo show.

[Natalie]

Totally. I was picturing 30s Hobo.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Me too. Sad clown. But I thought it was gonna be makeshift. So the four year and the eight year old, like this version. Your husband is not interested in it, which is very surprising, I don't think. I don't think this is a fear of clowns at all. Because it's not the clown.

[Natalie]

Clown. Yeah, I.

[Veronica]

That's why I'm so.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, you should be confused.

[Natalie]

Yeah, it's strange.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't know, but there's stuff we don't know. Gareth.

[Natalie]

Okay. All right, keep going then.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And I'll tell you what we don't know is we don't know how Bubble sounds.

[Natalie]

Bobo.

[Veronica]

Sounds like a mix. I try to do a clown voice.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Veronica.

[Veronica]

But it's not.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Veronica. Veronica. Veronica. Yeah, I. I think you misheard me. I was not talking to Veronica. I would like to meet somebody, please. Ladies and gentlemen, please bring to the stage your favorite and our favorite. Ladies and gentlemen, we present to you, Bobo.

[Veronica]

Hello, kids.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Welcome. Bobo, what are you doing? We're doing a podcast. Bobo, what are you doing?

[Veronica]

I need some help with my. I can't do this.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Gareth. You're a little kid.

[Bill]

That's all I got.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Gareth, let's jump. In. Okay. Gareth is going to be a kid. You're going to be Bobo. Let's see what we got. We got to get to know Bobo a little bit. Ladies and gentlemen, please come to this stage. Boys and girls, just one boy who's nearly 50 with a painted ginger beer.

[Natalie]

That's not true. What a weird intro. Why would he make the intro about me?

[Veronica]

Hello.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, here's my problem, Veronica. And this is why it's hard to help here. The look is not old hobo. So the look is Comic Con, Marvel, Clown lady.

[Natalie]

Dc, I should point out people probably.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sorry. Whatever it is, who cares? Whatever. But you are. But Gareth, you're totally right. Yeah, but you and I don't.

[Natalie]

Just to get ahead of the comments.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Thank you. You're right, dc. So it's got a different vibe than I would have thought. I have no sense of who Bobo the clown is because all I've heard is, hi, I'm Bobo, and then it stops. So I don't know what the performance is. So to pitch on the husband, we're pitching in the dark.

[Veronica]

Can I explain what I do?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Sure.

[Veronica]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wake me up when this is over.

[Veronica]

I'm sorry.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm being mean. Go ahead.

[Veronica]

So I come out and I just juggle. I jump around.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But you said you can't jump.

[Natalie]

Whatever. She tries to juggle.

[Veronica]

Well, no, I fake. I pretend juggle. I just throw.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You throw balls up in the air. When you say you jump around, what do you mean? Just up and down?

[Veronica]

Yeah. Dancing, Falling.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm going to tell you a quick story about how I relate to you here. And this is where I'm trying to get to. This is a true story. When I was 20 years old, I was living in East Harlem, and I really wanted to be a professional actor. And I didn't have any money. And my sister went to Prague and got these beautiful old masks because she was. Used to be a claymation and a puppeteer. So claymation per artist. So I had a mask of an old man. I had a mask of a clown, whatever. And one day I was sitting there and money was getting tight, and I thought, you know what I'll do? I'll just busk. I was like, I'm just going to go to Times Square in the subway. I'm going to go to 42nd and 7th and I'm just going to get in a corner and I'm just going to start doing a performance and are just going to throw money at me. And so I grabbed the clown mask, I put it in A bag. I grabbed an umbrella simply because that's nearby, and I had a sports jacket. And as I was taking the subway down from Spanish Harlem to Times Square, I was thinking, I don't have an act, but something's going to happen. So I get to 42nd Street, I see a little area. I put my little clown mask on. I open my umbrella. When people start walking by, I just start doing, like, the mime wave, like. And no one's stopping. I have a little hat out for change. No one's throwing money out. And then two women who were probably in their 60s, who were working women, who had, like, the bags with them of their supplies. One of them goes, what the hell you doing? You're scaring everybody. And I just waved back. And she goes, you're scaring everybody. You ain't doing anything. And because I didn't have an act, I just did the umbrella a little bit. And she said, cool it. And she was so angry that more and more people started to come around on her side. So all of a sudden, There were about 15 people behind her as she was screaming at me. And I start doing the mime in a box routine. But I wasn't trained in any of this, so my box had a bunch of different levels to it. So she keeps yelling, cool it. The train pulls in. The doors open. I rush in. The train, mask on, she follows me, heckling me on the train. Midway through my train ride. Now, it's not even my train home. It's just a train. I finally just take the mask off. Off. And I go, I was trying to do a show, right? And she goes, well, that mass scares people. And I'm like, I'm sorry. I made no money. It was a total disaster. So the reason I tell that story is I didn't have a clown, so therefore I didn't have a show. I need to know if we've got a clown. Like, how are we gonna pitch to the husband without knowing who? So Bobo can't really juggle jumps around. Looks kind of dc, but my question is, kind of, he might not like it because he'll go, she's not even a clown. I don't. He might be judging his kids taste.

[Natalie]

Your point here, Jake, is you. You don't.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I need more info because we could pitch in the dark, Gareth, but then what we'd be pitching is we got to find out if he's scared about. I'm not even positive. Like, I have no gut feeling of what the husband feels.

[Natalie]

One of two things. Things I Think he either does have some kind of phobia of this, which is kind of weird to me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, agreed. I.

[Natalie]

The other one, I would think is that he's a little jealous.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You know, he's so. Yes, I think you're right. You know what I'm thinking, Veronica?

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Either we gotta get to know Bobo or we gotta do another call with your husband.

[Veronica]

Oh, is that. Oh, well, no, no, I don't. I. I think he is scared because he does not look at me and no eye contact.

[Natalie]

So when I'm so.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Something else cooking here, Veronica, I don't think there's anything I. Or potentially there's nothing wrong. I think we're too in the dark a little bit, and I think we gotta talk to. I think we gotta talk to husband.

[Natalie]

Veronica, what is your comfortability level with that? Are you. Do you feel like he's open to that? That.

[Veronica]

I think he is.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay.

[Natalie]

This is perfect.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Is he around right now?

[Veronica]

Oh, me try. Right. Right now?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, why not?

[Veronica]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right. And Veronica, what's your real name? We'll beep it out. Obviously, it's. Yeah, you're my first. You're my first real life.

[Natalie]

You're really. You're in intro mode.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Agreed. And now I'm starting to get a knower.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[Veronica]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hello.

[Vic]

Hi.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hey, really quick question. Can we get your name, please, really fast? Sir, Sorry. This is all for fun.

[Vic]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hey, this is Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds from the podcast. We're here to help and we have your lovely wife on the line.

[Vic]

Oh, she's her own name.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She's what? All right, so you know.

[Vic]

Okay, okay.

[Veronica]

No, I didn't use my real name.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, we're going to block that out.

[Vic]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All of that will be blocked out. Your real name will be blocked out. So now, sir, we need the truth from you 100%. And we will get to the end of this. Do not worry about. We're calling her Veronica, by the way, so we don't have to keep doing the beeps. Your lovely wife is Veronica. You're. Can. You can be Vic. So what do you honestly think about Bobo the Clown?

[Vic]

Don't like it. I don't like Bobo the Clowns. Like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Be. Be as detailed and real. Okay, Can. This is important for us.

[Vic]

That both of them gives off. It's just like creeping away. And like, whenever she comes in. Like, for example, she had a. I think she was Boba the Clown the other night, and I forgot. And so I was with the kids in my room or in their room, and she knocked on the door. I thought it was just my wife. I was like, hang on. We're welcome. The doors. And then on me, she knock on the door, like differently. And I feel different energy. It sounds weird. Anyways, I'm like, ah, crap, it's Bobo. And I'm like, ah. My heart drops and I'm like a man. Here it goes. And that's just what I feel like. Whenever she comes in the room, I like, don't. I avoid eye contact with her. I just stare at my food. It's like. It's weird. I don't know why I feel that way.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You just want it over.

[Vic]

Yes, I know. The kids love it.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Vic]

And they're laughing and it's dumb, funny. But like, I just don't want to interact with Bobo. I don't know what it is.

[Natalie]

Well, it sounds like. Because when we heard the profile of you, we thought maybe there was some jealousy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But you don't think so though?

[Natalie]

No, I don't think there's any of that. I think it's just purely. You don't like when Bobo makes you a part of the Bobo comedy.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You also don't like Bobo.

[Vic]

I don't know. I guess I still like Bobo. I don't. Clowns, like I. You can clown and have fun, but like when I interact with you, if I'm looking at you, it just makes me feel weird.

[Gareth Reynolds]

It's like a. Vic. I see a snake. So that. I got a question for you. You afraid of clowns?

[Vic]

No. But the more this whole conversation goes on, the more I'm like, am I?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hey, Vic, I got a question for you.

[Vic]

I don't think so.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. You afraid of snakes?

[Vic]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You afraid of snakes?

[Vic]

No. No.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What are you afraid of.

[Veronica]

Bobo?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hold on, hold on, Vic. You're not afraid of snakes. You're not afraid of clowns. What are you afraid of?

[Vic]

Of what am I afraid of, you think?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Nothing.

[Vic]

I don't know. I can't think of anything really.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, I've got a pitch.

[Natalie]

Okay, I got a pitch too.

[Vic]

Go.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Veronica, you're allowed to do Bobo whenever Vic isn't around.

[Natalie]

I like that one. I like giving him a heads up.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And if you're going to do it like for the birthday thing, guess what, vic? You got 30 minutes to go upstairs and play on your phone.

[Veronica]

But he's part of my bit where I. Because I don't know. I'm running out of things to do to make him laugh. So when they see he's uncomfortable, I get to mess with them.

[Natalie]

Okay, let me pitch in that direction because I think. I think what we're saying is true. Veronica. The problem is this is the same.

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is the hat call. Gareth.

[Natalie]

This. What do you mean?

[Gareth Reynolds]

This is the fedora.

[Natalie]

This is the fedora. This is absolutely the third act reveal.

[Gareth Reynolds]

She's the butt of Vic. Is the butt of. Of Bobo's rose.

[Natalie]

The thing is, you've made Vic in the world of Bobo his foil. Yeah, he's the foil. So. So that's why this is like, why Vic doesn't love it, because he is Bobo's father. He's the father. Father here would be my, my, my pitch. Maybe in the middle to solve this, whenever Bobo is coming to town, Vic also leaves town. And Vic, you could come up with a kind of character like the clown cowboy or something, like the clown foil or the clown foil. And you're at the clown.

[Gareth Reynolds]

That's a great pitch.

[Natalie]

And you kind of now are able in pretend town to have some pushback over the antics of Bobo.

[Gareth Reynolds]

But yeah, I like that. Vic, your whole thing is you as a character where if it's Bobo, you just throw on some fedora and a fake mustache. You're the sheriff. Yeah. Hey, Bobo.

[Natalie]

But again, remember, this is for the kids.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So all you gotta do is cross your arms and shake your head like, I don't like it.

[Natalie]

It gives you a little bit of a spine and pretend land where you can sort of have a level of pushback. So it's. I think that's a great Bobo's world. But Vic now has a character to kind of push himself health through. What do you think of that?

[Veronica]

Yeah, I like that idea, Vic.

[Vic]

That's good. I like it. It's like, gives me, like you said, power.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, so, Vic, what. What. What's your character all about?

[Vic]

Would you say I have a bowler hat and a mustache?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, sure.

[Natalie]

If you want. If you want to be like a constable. Constable.

[Vic]

Maybe I have to get like, Bobo back to the circus or this is like a no clown zone.

[Natalie]

No clowning around.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You're the circus. You're the ringmaster.

[Vic]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Veronica]

I like that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Great.

[Veronica]

That's actually funny. I think the kids will like it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You know what's gonna happen with you too? She's gonna.

[Natalie]

Jake, don't even say it.

[Bill]

No.

[Veronica]

No.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes.

[Natalie]

Don't. Don't. Stop.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Gareth texted me.

[Natalie]

Stop. Shut up.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Jake Garrett texted me. Clown hot question mark. Because what this is going to turn into is a weird sex game.

[Veronica]

I don't think so. Because he Said he wouldn't even do Bobo.

[Gareth Reynolds]

He would, like, ever. What does that mean?

[Veronica]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So, Veronica, you asked, would you ever do Bobo?

[Veronica]

Yeah, because I was like, what would make this better?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Hold on, hold on. How did you. How did you offer that? What happened there?

[Veronica]

Because he was so scared. I was like, well, what if we just, like, fooled around as Bobo? And he was like, no, I couldn't even get there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Wow. Why not, buddy boy? You're scared. You scared of clowns.

[Natalie]

Clown bang.

[Vic]

Just don't. I just don't like clowns.

[Natalie]

This character, it's weird.

[Vic]

I don't know why I. I.

[Natalie]

The. The.

[Vic]

It's like, I don't know why I can't.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, I can't.

[Natalie]

Why I can't.

[Vic]

Word. Afraid.

[Veronica]

Weird.

[Vic]

Dislike is a strong word. And I dislike clowns.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I was. I'm going to tell you this. This call has been emotional for me because at first, Veronica, I thought. I honestly thought you were the weird one. Then I thought, now I think Vic's the weird one.

[Natalie]

It.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You can't have sex with your lovely wife when she's dressed as a clown because you can't see that. Just your wife with a tiny bit of makeup.

[Natalie]

I. I now think you're the weird one.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Me?

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Why?

[Natalie]

I mean, you could understand. Not clown bang. I understand it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You do?

[Natalie]

Yeah. G. You.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You would bang a turtle if it asked you.

[Natalie]

I have banged a turtle. Well, okay. But wait.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I think.

[Natalie]

So what do we think? We're on the solution. The ringmaster, Vic the clown, Bobo has escaped. Do we feel good about that? Everyone feels good. So when, Veronica, you're planning the Bobo appearance, you just need to give Vic a little bit of a heads up. You could still have your fun with Vic, but now he's the ringmaster with some authority in pretend land.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, I'm going to do another pitch really fast. Oh, hey, Vic.

[Vic]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm asking you to have sex with Bobo.

[Natalie]

Okay, I'm gonna stop.

[Vic]

G.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Vic. Yeah, Veronica, if you're comfortable with this, I would like you to dress as Bobo and have. However you guys do it. Whatever your games are. Mess around. Whatever you guys, she's a clown.

[Natalie]

Gay. A hat on a hat.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Happy. Whatever you two lovely people like to do.

[Natalie]

What? He doesn't want to do it. What do you mean?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, guess what? Sometimes you make sacrifices for your family. That's what being a father's all about. Vic knows it.

[Natalie]

I can't believe. I can't believe. Oh, man.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I would like you to have sex with Bobo. Veronica. I would like you to stay in character during a it. And after that.

[Vic]

Oh, man.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Vic, I know you're afraid, but you can get past it. You got to go through. You know what? There's a great self help book. Say, face the fear and do it anyway. Feel the fear and do it anyway. So you're afraid, my man. So feel the fear, do it anyway. And then afterwards, while you're laying there.

[Natalie]

With Bobo, he's got to do postco chat.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes. That's why you call into a podcast. We're here to help.

[Natalie]

I don't think that's why either. Call it. He didn't even call it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So, Vic, here's what I would like you to do afterwards is I would like you to then create a ringmaster character.

[Natalie]

Why does he have to have Bobo sex to do the. We've already solved the problem.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We. Because he's going to be half in, half out, and he's being weird.

[Natalie]

That's what sex is.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So quite a. Vic, we're getting off track.

[Bill]

What do you.

[Natalie]

Oh, oh, are we?

[Gareth Reynolds]

What are you. Oh, man about? Because here's what I want to do. I want. I want Bobo and your ringmaster to be a ton of fun for the kids and have you guys both feel part of this because that's a great family memory. But I think you got a little weird thing you got to get over. And I think one role in the hay with Bobo, you're going to see a different side of Bobo and go, I like that. Son of a.

[Natalie]

Look, we've got two pitches. So the one is that you are the ringmaster with the thing we pitched and then Jake's version. In order to face your fear, you're going to need to do it with Bobo. There's two people on the call. This is a marriage. You guys get to pick surely one.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Of those two, but maybe let's start with Veronica.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Veronica, what do you think of those? What are you comfortable with? And then we'll go to Vic next.

[Veronica]

I like the whole ringmaster idea, but Vic will definitely clown around with Bobo. I could see it in it or he doesn't look at me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, but would you be willing to clown around with.

[Veronica]

I would do it.

[Natalie]

Yeah. Boba's offered it.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Would Bobo enjoy it?

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Is this something that Bobo wants?

[Veronica]

Doesn't really want, but I think it would be kind of funny at the same time.

[Natalie]

Well, that's what we all want from sex.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah. Well, that's what I provide with sex. But I don't want it left. They Go. That was funny. I go, yeah, totally. I'm laughing so hard while covered in sweat.

[Natalie]

Glad. Glad we're laughing.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So, Vic, floor is yours, my king.

[Vic]

Yep.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What are you gonna do?

[Natalie]

The.

[Vic]

The ring mir is doable.

[Natalie]

Okay.

[Vic]

Like, I feel comfortable doing that. The.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I don't want comfortable, baby. Trying to get through the fear.

[Natalie]

Okay, let him answer. I mean, you go ahead, Vic.

[Vic]

Oh, oh. I'll attempt. I'll do it. I'll get it done.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes. Ring the bell.

[Vic]

Do it.

[Natalie]

I'll do it. We can't ring the bell. This is highly.

[Vic]

Send in the clowns.

[Natalie]

Send in the clowns. Make it singular title.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So will you two lovers please follow up with us? Us?

[Veronica]

Yes.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then will you also send us the photo when you have become the ringmaster?

[Natalie]

Yeah. And nothing before.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay.

[Natalie]

No matter. If you get an email from the quote unquote show saying they quote unquote need this for the quote unquote shows, ignore that email.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And then three sent from the show with nothing in them. And the fourth one, sorry, spelled with a Z, disregard. And then From Natalie at 9am Going, what's happening here?

[Natalie]

Sorry, just catching up on these. Not sure who sent these. Getting to the bottom of it. Please, please ignore.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Guys, thank you for the call. Please follow up.

[Natalie]

Thanks, guys.

[Veronica]

Thank you.

[Vic]

All right, thank you.

[Gareth Reynolds]

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[Gareth Reynolds]

Hello. Howdy. How you doing?

[Natalie]

Howdy. That's familiar. Howdy. I remember that.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Just take over. Tell us who you are. We know this is a follow up. Let's cut through all of the fat on this one. Get right to the meat. Who are you? What was the call? What'd we say? Where we at that incredible.

[Bill]

This is Jake. This is your fraking followup from Arkansas. I'm Beverly. Who called about the toworker last year.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Are you Parmesan?

[Bill]

I'm Parmesan. Hey, guys.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Whoa.

[Natalie]

Parmesan.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I feel like I'm meeting a celebrity. Can I get a phone?

[Bill]

Oh, my God.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm a big fan.

[Natalie]

Beverly, right back at you.

[Bill]

I mean, the merch, my dude.

[Natalie]

So fun.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Exactly. Dude, we have Parmesan merch because of yours. There are people all over the world wearing hats the same.

[Natalie]

I have people come up to me after shows and give me Parmesan and they're like, we sign my Parmesan. I'm like, this. And then someone behind them's like, what's going on?

[Gareth Reynolds]

So.

[Bill]

Oh, yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right. So, Arkansas, walk us through what your problem was, what the pitch you decided to do and where we're at.

[Bill]

Right? Absolutely. So the initial problem was that I had a co worker who I shared a cubicle with who was remove her shoes every day after her lunchtime walk. Her shoes and socks. Feels important. And we had quite a few, like, stellar pitches from you guys. Right. To try and problem solve this.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And what were the. What were the pitches that were interesting to you? You. Because you've thought about this.

[Bill]

Well, there's the infamous Parish on the floor. Of course. This is our third time shotting.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, so remind me of the second follow up really fast. So I don't remember what you Originally.

[Bill]

Right, yeah. So the second follow up, you guys were essentially like, I think you just need to talk to your supervisor. Because all of the things that I tried and tell it. Remind us again.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I'm sorry, Beverly, remind us again what you tried.

[Bill]

Right, okay. So we tried the critter thing. Right. The spiders. And she was like, oh, yeah, we have spiders in here. Like, just wasn't phased. We tried the, like, smelly thing, and that's whenever she was like, oh, I don't really have a sense of smell. Right. Like, and. And then we tried the thing too. Where I was, like, trying to get us just get curious about it. Like, the why behind the what Right. Of, like.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Bill]

Have we had any incidents while we're barefoot? Like, what's going on here, Diamond? Right. And he was like. That's when she introduced to me her, like, lifestyle. Okay, so the, like, going barefoot lifestyle and how it, like, strengthens her legs to, like, have shoes that don't have soles or to just, like, not wear shoes at all. Is this ringing a bell? I don't know. I know, like, last year, I. I.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Remember your first call. I don't remember this first call.

[Natalie]

I don't remember this, but. Okay, so you exhausted all those. Okay, keep going.

[Bill]

I.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Right.

[Bill]

Exhausted all those. And when it came down to, like, the lifestyle choice, it felt very much like, okay, so this just isn't, like, a weird habit. This is tough to be able to wiggle her toes because we're strengthening her feet and her legs or whatever. And so that's when it got to the point where you guys were just like, oh, okay. Yeah. I feel like maybe we just. Maybe, Bev, you should just go talk to your supervisor.

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, I got a new pitch. I think we made a mistake there.

[Natalie]

I was gonna say, it seems like we got a little lazy there.

[Gareth Reynolds]

I think you got a parmesan on the floor, and I don't mean that as a joke.

[Bill]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

What did. What did you tell your supervisor?

[Bill]

Okay, so, yeah, I, like, I don't know. At the end of my last call with you guys, I had, like, like, said that you were on speakerphone with my supervisor, and I was walking into his office.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes, I remember this.

[Bill]

And I think I kind of scared you a little bit.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yes, I remember this now. 100%.

[Bill]

It's all coming back. Well, I'm glad we didn't burn a bridge. So, yeah, I talked. I. I actually did end up talking to my supervisor that day, and I just kind of laid it out, and he said that he didn't want to.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Talk to her about her feet. Feet.

[Bill]

And then I should just work from home for the rest of the day. I have to be around them.

[Natalie]

Punishment.

[Bill]

You.

[Natalie]

What was it like, a punishment? Like, he was like, look, go home. Or was he like, no, I get it.

[Bill]

No, he was just like, well, I don't really want to talk to her about her feet. And if you don't want to be around her feet, then just go home.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What the For?

[Natalie]

Sorry.

[Bill]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

So for the rest of the day or, like, work from home. Going forward, it was like, work from home.

[Bill]

For the rest of the day. And he was going to talk to another supervisor to figure out what to do.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, so then what happened?

[Bill]

So then I left that job, you guys.

[Natalie]

Oh, because of the feet?

[Bill]

Actually, something a little more serious happened about a month after that. And this supervisor also showed his. His stellar leadership skills again. And I realized that this is not a place I wanted to work at anymore.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, Okay. I would say, first of all, put the bell away, Gareth.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Second of all, I really hope we weren't part of you losing your job.

[Natalie]

No, she left.

[Bill]

No, not at.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Bill]

I left on my own accord. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not trying to make it weird.

[Natalie]

It sounds like the supervisor was kind.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Of shady, but are you happy or at your new position?

[Bill]

Oh, we love turning the page. Yes, my dude. I think so. I. So I started my own business where I knew that I would see no feet anywhere. There's, like, no chance it's about coming out.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What kind of business do you do? Can we advertise it on the show?

[Bill]

That's so kind. I'm. I'm a. I. I bake cookies. I'm making cookies.

[Gareth Reynolds]

What's. Hold on. We're gonna be ringing the hell of this bell. Is there a website that people. Do you ship the cookies or is it just local right now?

[Bill]

It's just local. I'd love to ship. Maybe I can send you guys. And let me know. Let me know how they taste. I could even do, like, a vegan, right? Are we a vegan?

[Natalie]

We'll do whatever.

[Gareth Reynolds]

How about this, Beverly? How can we help you? Do you want to experiment with shipping? Not to us. Look at us. We're two heavy guys who like to eat already. But maybe there's 28. I'm a worm. Maybe the hair is maybe. Do you have a website we could go on Squarespace. You could start one.

[Natalie]

Yeah, we have. Promote the business.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, let's get you some cookies.

[Bill]

A really good idea. I. Yeah, I. I would like to. So I'm in. I'm in the beginning phases. Of course. I have an Instagram. I can send that, I guess, your way and work on getting the squarespace. Like, Squarespace would be really helpful and getting the website going.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Well, let's do this. Let's do this. Why don't you do the squarespace?

[Bill]

Okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

See how easy it is then as a gag, we could maybe have you back in while we're doing a Squarespace ad and will mention your website even in the ad so that it constantly runs. But we Will be promoting your website. So you want to see how easy Squarespace is. We've got a caller who called in because there were feet. We said farmers on the floor. She left, started her own business, created a website, and you can buy cookies and she ships it domestically.

[Natalie]

There we go.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And Gareth and I will hard itself. We will. Then we'll see what you do and we'll have a follow up with you about how the business is going. So go to Squarespace, use our promo code, do that, and then honestly, because you'll be starting a website that you'll be selling merch on, we'll see how easy Squarespace is.

[Natalie]

Excuse me. Quiet everyone, while the bell gets rung.

[Bill]

The bell totally gets wrong, my dude.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Good. So, Beverly, are you happy with this?

[Bill]

I'm so happy. It's lovely to hear Yalls voices again. I hope you're doing well.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, we're doing YouTube. Beverly, one quick question before we go. And Beverly, we'll do a fun whole commercial for you on the next follow up, which I think will be not only fun for us, but I think the audience and I think it'll be fun for people to buy it. Especially the donut guy.

[Natalie]

Oh, yeah, the donut guy should definitely buy a runner.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Parmesan. What's the name of your business and if we can pitch on that really quickly?

[Bill]

Okay, yeah, my business name. My business name is Middle child Cookies. And the tagline is Cookies that deserve attention.

[Gareth Reynolds]

The tag is real good cookies that middle.

[Bill]

Thank you. I'm a middle child myself. I don't know where y'all fall in the birth order.

[Natalie]

It's a complicated family I live in.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Yeah, got a few.

[Bill]

Amazing. Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So I actually really like your title. I like your tagline. I'm looking. Is there a way we could throw on the website a little love to Parmesan the floor? Floor. And so just so people from the we're here to help crowd can see a thing. Yeah, Parmesan. Your floor, not your cookies.

[Bill]

Floor, not your cookies. Yeah, that's good. I mean, what else do you got?

[Gareth Reynolds]

Okay, Gareth, you're better at these.

[Natalie]

Hold on, I'm looking up her cookies here.

[Bill]

Right now it's Middle child cookies on Instagram.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I got you right here. Cookies that deserve attention. Yeah, okay.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Oh, my God. You got some views too, here, pal.

[Bill]

My dude.

[Veronica]

Thank you.

[Bill]

The other viral podcast reposted me the other day. Chelsea Lynn, I don't know if you guys are familiar.

[Natalie]

She's the best.

[Bill]

She's so funny. Yeah. But yeah, it's Been really fun. It's been really, like, interesting, I think, to tie it back to, like, community. I think here to help is, like, a really strong community. So, like, in my cookies, and I use local ingredients, and, like, community is important to me. So is there, like a. I don't know. Or is that too cheesy?

[Gareth Reynolds]

No, you know what? You just said it with the cheesy. Gary.

[Natalie]

I was gonna say.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And so I think we've got something. These cookies are all about community.

[Natalie]

It might sound cheesy. Jake's. Keep going.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Keep going. As if.

[Bill]

I see Jake takes.

[Natalie]

I would say something to the effect of, like, I know it sounds cheesy. Something along the lines of, I don't want to parmesan your floor or sound cheesy, but these cookies are all about community.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ooh, I love that.

[Bill]

That's really cute. I like it.

[Natalie]

All right, there we go. Let's leave on a win.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Let's leave on a win. And.

[Bill]

Yeah, absolutely. We're ringing the bell.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Ringing the bell. Maybe a camera.

[Natalie]

Oh, no problem.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Why not?

[Natalie]

Not a limit.

[Gareth Reynolds]

So let's follow up with us. Maybe talk to Sherlock. Sherlock is Jesse or Nat. Attack whoever you're emailing with. And then let's get you back on it. Be really fun to have you on and do a squarespace as well with the title, with the thing where you explain how easy it is.

[Bill]

I love that idea. Thank you, guys. I didn't know how this call was going to go today, but honestly, this is. This is best case scenario.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Love it. Middle child cookies.

[Bill]

Cookies that deserve attention.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Now we're talking. What's up?

[Natalie]

Turnaround from the. From the bear. Let me.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Let me say this to you, Garrett.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Gareth Reynolds]

And to you, Natach, to you, Sherlock, and to you, Beverly, and our audience.

[Bill]

All ears.

[Gareth Reynolds]

You call into this show because you got a coworker where your feet are out and they're disgusting. And the audience might make fun of us for pitches like parmesan the floor, but there's a method to the madness. And the madness is, is we want you to quit. Become an entrepreneur, just like we talk about on Shark Tank. And Beverly, I want $1 on every cookie sold. I Mr. Wonderful Baby.

[Natalie]

And then we're going back to D.C. and we're taking back to the White House. Yeah. Yeah, Beverly, we look forward to the next install, but thank you very much.

[Bill]

Much same. Thanks, guys. Have a lovely day.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Incredible stuff.

[Natalie]

Bye. Awesome.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All right.

[Bill]

Bye, my dude.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Bye, buddy.

[Natalie]

Bye.

[Gareth Reynolds]

Just incredible.

[Bill]

Bye.

[Natalie]

The best. The best.

[Gareth Reynolds]

We'Re here to help is hosted by Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds. If you'd like to be on the show, please email us your question@ Helpful Podmail.com and if you want to watch video episodes of We're Here to Help, you can go to our [e-mail] hereto help pod to see our entire catalog.

[Natalie]

We're Here to Help is produced by.

[Bill]

Rabbit Grim Productions executive producers Rob Hollis.

[Natalie]

Jeff Porter and Natalie Hollis associate producer Jesse Thurston Editing, mix and master by Chris Faller theme song by Oliver Raleigh the COVID artwork is by James Fosta animations by Andrew Strelecki and if you'd like to see Gareth do Stand up on the road, go to garethreynolds.com Remember, all of the advice given on We're Here to Help is for entertainment purposes only and all listeners should be adults and make their own decisions.

[Gareth Reynolds]

All video episodes of season one are available now on Patreon and season two video episodes will be available every Monday starting January 20th. Go to patreon.com heretohelpod.