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We just got another email as we were doing this from a woman named Desiree. Okay, subject. A great idea. Oh, fellas and Nat Attack. You're now officially in the emails now.
Gareth Reynolds
How does that feel? Net Attack?
Natalie
It's been happening.
Jake Johnson
I just. It's been happening a lot.
Gareth Reynolds
It's pretty good for you.
Jake Johnson
I have a phenomenal idea for the Bride in the Most recent episode. 171. The One with the Father daughter dance. So literally, the one that dropped today, you could take the clip of Campbell talking about why her dad is so great, including the story about how he supports her anxiety, and maybe even you guys responded and lay it over a song intro that they could dance to, whether it's his style or hers. We did this in high school. Our dance teacher, after dancing with her for 17 years with quotes and talked about how great she is, and let me tell you, not a dry eye in the house. Highly recommend. I can't find the one we redid, but I recorded a quick example.
Gareth Reynolds
Wow.
Jake Johnson
Let me see if this works. Like this.
Natalie
Okay.
Jake Johnson
I can't find.
Gareth Reynolds
I was picturing.
Jake Johnson
Can you hear? Do what?
Natalie
I remember it's to, like, over Little Wonders by Thomas.
Jake Johnson
All right, let's see what happens.
Gareth Reynolds
I am a dancer.
Natalie
I believe that we learn by practice.
Gareth Reynolds
Whether it means to learn to dance by practicing dancing or to learn to.
Jake Johnson
Live by practicing living. Martha Graham. And then we let, like, the rest of the song play out, and I.
Natalie
Think we did voiceovers over other instrumental parts, and it was a hit.
Jake Johnson
So I would recommend to a friend.
Natalie
She should do it.
Jake Johnson
Well, let's reach out to her, the woman from the caller today, and see if she wants to do this, because then we can get her the audio. What do you guys think?
Gareth Reynolds
What do you think of that pitch? I like the pitch. I like the idea that it's maybe over, like, a beat.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
So it's kind of like a little like. Of a like. And we're, like, hearing what we're saying over that for an intro, so it feels musical.
Jake Johnson
This might be technically really hard, that attack, and if it is, we don't have to worry about it. But can we. Can you replay the stuff of her telling that anxiety story with Gareth beatboxing, and see if we could just create a version we send to her right now.
Gareth Reynolds
How weird. Do you want to get in it?
Natalie
You want me to play that section of the episode right now?
Jake Johnson
Right now. And then if we can, with good audio so that Gareth can do a. As a Scatman improv man. Jazz man.
Gareth Reynolds
Thank you.
Jake Johnson
Give us a little taste, and then we could send her the thing and go. Are you interested in this? Because our friend Desiree had a great idea.
Natalie
Oh, my God.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I'd have to find where in.
Natalie
The hell in the episode that little segment was where she was talking about her anxiety story.
Gareth Reynolds
You know, it sounds like you're making that sound very hard.
Natalie
I mean, you can just drop me a generic beatboxing track and then we.
Gareth Reynolds
Can try to line it up later.
Jake Johnson
Let's do that.
Gareth Reynolds
Your attitude, would you feel that?
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I did. You.
Gareth Reynolds
You started it.
Jake Johnson
Girls, would you guys stop fighting?
Gareth Reynolds
Jake, don't do that. That's so 99. Yeah, I don't mind faking a beat.
Jake Johnson
Will you give a taste of a beat? And then we'll say really quick to start. I'll give a little intro, drop the beat, and then we'll see what happens. So ready?
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Before we do this father daughter dance, we want to throw to something really special that a young woman said about her dad and our man. G man's gonna drop a beat over. So this is a conversation that really happened, folks. G Man, take it away. Maybe take your hands away from your mouth.
Gareth Reynolds
We couldn't really hear it. Well, it's recorded really good over here.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so it. So as long as we can actually hear it. Because I couldn't hear a lot. I just see how confident Gareth is.
Gareth Reynolds
Your eyes were making me think you heard it.
Jake Johnson
Well, there was the. When you. At first I didn't hear anything. Then there was a piece in the middle that was sounding pretty good. So. Nally, can you try cutting that to putting that over that clip and sending it to her and.
Gareth Reynolds
Better than Kanye's new stuff.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, see if it works.
Natalie
Wait, Anything's better than that. But I'm not going to actually do it. I'll ask our editor to do it.
Gareth Reynolds
Chris, of course.
Natalie
But yes.
Jake Johnson
Okay, great.
Natalie
Yes, we can try. I don't know what Gareth was doing, so it's going to be a real surprise.
Gareth Reynolds
You can talk to me, too, Natalie. I'm right here. You don't need to talk about me like I'm not here. Natalie, please. Jake, Jake, don't. Don't do that. Don't be that guy either, because now you're just making it seem worse than it is. Now. You're doing that thing where you're acting like a thing happened and it didn't. So don't do that either, please.
Jake Johnson
You and Natalie are fighting, not you.
Gareth Reynolds
And me fighting with a lot of people, I think. Jesse, sign on. I want to yell at you, too. Excuse me?
Natalie
Everybody's yelling at you anyways.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, that's exactly right. Hey, Jesse. How you been? I'm good.
Desiree
Good.
Gareth Reynolds
You don't have to be here.
Jake Johnson
All right, shall we start the show?
Gareth Reynolds
I agree. You guys. You didn't say.
Natalie
Without further ado.
Gareth Reynolds
Hello.
Vijay
Hi.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi. Welcome to. We're here to help. Can we. We're going to solve Whatever this is, just want you to know that I appreciate it.
Vijay
Thank you.
Gareth Reynolds
Thank you so much. And can we get your name, please?
Vijay
My name is vj. Like Victor James initials.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, vj. And where are you calling from, Vijay?
Vijay
I'm actually down in San Pedro, California.
Gareth Reynolds
Beautiful, beautiful. And you get in the water over there in San Pedro, Vijay, you water guy.
Vijay
I mean, I'm, I'm on the water right now, technically. Kind of ties into my. Ties into my call.
Gareth Reynolds
Very interesting. Rough age here, Vijay. What are we dealing with? Early 33. Yeah. Okay. All right, Jake, any animal questions for Vijay? Should we just get in?
Jake Johnson
Let's get in.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, Vijay, what's going on?
Vijay
Okay, so you guys seem like the guys that could help with this. I have recently started calling all of my, like, guy friends and guy colleagues babe. I started referring to them like, hey, babe, thanks for that. Thanks, babe. And most of them are cool. All of my friends are cool. My issue is the smaller one is my wife doesn't love it because I call her Babe. She's getting used to it. So that's, that's kind of resolved itself. But the other one is where I work, which you're asking, you know, if I'm on the water. I actually work on the USS Iowa. It's a battleship museum down in, you know, down in the port. And a lot of my colleagues or, you know, staff or whatever are all old white guys. Some of them are retired admirals, retired captains. They're all, you know, pretty high ranking, most of them, and they have not responded to Babe as well as I would have hoped. Some of them are fine, but I would say about.
Gareth Reynolds
It's like Sammy Davis. Yeah.
Vijay
Why not hit the public on.
Desiree
It's good.
Vijay
Oh, babe, how'd that tour go? That's great. And. And I'm just looking for maybe some advice on how to get them, you know, on the.
Gareth Reynolds
Babe, no, no, no, you're not, Jake. I mean, hold on now, look. Yeah, I, you know, do Berg and I call each other babe?
Jake Johnson
You know?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, we call each other babe a lot. And I remember one time I was like, dating a girl and. And it was like, you could see the text on the phone and it was like Babe had the best hike or something like that. And she was like, what's going. I was like, no, it's Steve Berg. I swear to God.
Jake Johnson
I, I just had it with Damon Wayne Jr. Because he and I always pretend we've been in a very long affair with each other, but it's always just privately with. He And I. And we were just talking on a Zoom, but FaceTime. But I didn't realize his wife was driving. And midway through, he just showed. And I had to say, like, oh, everything I said was a joke. I'm apologizing. I didn't want you to hear that. But, Vijay, I got a question for you, pal.
Vijay
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Because I get this. I. I hear where you're coming from. I've also experimented with this stuff. My dad used to call people grown men. Baby face and sweetheart.
Gareth Reynolds
Sweetheart is the full when you do croco.
Jake Johnson
But he says it to grown men, and it worked. My brother and I experimented with doing this, and it did not work for us. So what was the moment when you decided you wanted to try Bab Men, which is a move I agree with. I love it. Why? And what happened?
Vijay
I would say it was probably like a month ago, give or take. I tried, and I introduced it with my friend group first. You know, we're just like, friends went over awesome. Everyone loves it. Everyone's calling each other babe now. That's great. So I thought to myself, why not bring this into my professional life? Try it here. The first person I tried it on worked great. You know, older, retired guy.
Jake Johnson
Guy.
Vijay
He already calls people baby all the time, guys and girls. A little problematic, but, you know, he means well.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Vijay
And then so I was like, perfect, it's working. This is great. And then I went to. I don't want to say their name, but he's a retired captain. And I was like, hey, babe, can you help me with the tour coming up? And he looked at me like I was a crazy person.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Vijay
That I was missing ahead. And I was like, oh, that's not great. So I've felt it out since then, like I said, about a month, give or take. It's admixed results. But I think the people that like it really like it. And I feel like if these guys can kind of get past this discomfort, they would also really, truly enjoy it as well, I think.
Gareth Reynolds
Better for the world.
Jake Johnson
That might be a jump, though, at the end of each. He might not be, but. So what is the specific question, then? How we can help get you to be able to say babe to the old retired captains at work?
Vijay
Well, I'm gonna say it no matter what, but what I was hoping, what can I do to help them come to terms with it, you know, that they can. That they can start to enjoy it and embrace Babe.
Jake Johnson
Well, you're gonna do it no matter what. Which is interesting. Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
It's. It's Tough. I. I mean, I. Look, first of all, vj, I. Look, I respect the fact that you. You've dug your heels in and you're gonna start calling people babe.
Vijay
Oh, also something that I totally forgot to mention. There is a weird power dynamic because they are all, you know, high ranking, retired guys. Most of them are, but I am in charge of them at work. They are my.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know if you're calling them Vijay.
Jake Johnson
I hate that.
Vijay
So much worse.
Jake Johnson
I hate that for this.
Gareth Reynolds
It complicates it a little bit.
Jake Johnson
It complicates it a lot. A bit Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
Because now you're the boss calling employees.
Vijay
Babe, but only madman male only guys.
Gareth Reynolds
Even then. I mean, think of the world we live in. You can't. It's not. It's. I think.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Look, I can give you the pitches I wrote down before we heard that. You might just have to. If we want to stick with it. I mean, it's up to you.
Jake Johnson
No, let's hear the pitches.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, the first pitch is you gotta go worse than babe to make babe seem appealing.
Jake Johnson
Give me an example. Shuggie, walk me through that.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, honey pie, I was just. Hey, Sugie, can you do me a favor and can you clean the glass on the flag memorial?
Jake Johnson
Can I pitch on your Shuggie pitch?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, you can, Shuggie.
Jake Johnson
Vijay, what if you did this? What if you called, you were pretending to be on the phone with a friend in front of them and you said, like, matt, how you doing? And then you go, all right, Shuggie, thanks so much. So that they hear that Shuggie is an option. So then when you see them and you go like, hey, babe, give me one second. And then I can go over that paperwork. And then you get on the phone, you go, I'm sorry, Sugie, I'm just finishing up with a worker. Let me call you right back. So they go, babe's bad. This guy might be calling us Suggie soon.
Gareth Reynolds
Or honey pie.
Jake Johnson
Or honey, let's close with Babe.
Vijay
I mean, I've said worse things over the phone to my friends, so that makes sense. Battleship.
Jake Johnson
Sorry, what are some of the things you've said over the phone to your friends?
Gareth Reynolds
You just say, I'm on a battleship. That's what the noise is.
Vijay
Well, that. There's. There's. There was a noise above me. I don't know if you heard it. We're doing maintenance.
Gareth Reynolds
All right. Okay. All right, Go ahead.
Jake Johnson
That's cool.
Gareth Reynolds
What were you saying, Jake?
Jake Johnson
What are some of the other things You've called your friends over the phone.
Vijay
Sweet Stuff, Hot pants, Good Sweet lips. Baggy Jeans is one that I call my friend.
Jake Johnson
What a nickname.
Gareth Reynolds
I. I think that that can work. You know what else you could do is you could have a friend show up to your job and you could call each other Babe a lot. So it normalizes how much you're using Babe. So it shows them that you and your regular life are a babe guy.
Vijay
I mean, that I would have to drag a friend down here, but yeah, that's doable.
Gareth Reynolds
How bad do you want your Babe dynamic?
Jake Johnson
Bad enough to call it a podcast.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. I mean, Vijay, you might have to log some hours. I mean, these. You're talking to guys from the greatest generation and you're acting like bringing a friend to your work is going to battle.
Vijay
Yeah, that's a good point.
Gareth Reynolds
You're right.
Vijay
That's a good point.
Jake Johnson
Let me, let me pitch something else. I really, really like the nickname Baggy Jeans. One of the best nicknames that I've heard in a while. And something that I gotta figure out. Somebody in my life who's going to be called Baggy Jeans Adelstein. He'll hate it. He'll kill me. It's gonna be something I'm not afraid will kill me. What if you just gave them all individual nicknames rather than Babe that were less sexual and less intimate and more weird? Like Baggy Jeans.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
So they were just Euro weird nickname. Because there's something about fighting for our country and then fighting for your life as you age to have a younger boss call you Babe. It goes like, I didn't fight for this country to be called Babe at work on a retired battleship.
Gareth Reynolds
I know, Babe.
Jake Johnson
But if I'm called Dirty Socks.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep, I'll go.
Jake Johnson
I don't even know what that means.
Vijay
That feels almost more derogatory than baby.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, maybe we.
Jake Johnson
I don't disagree. Take away Dirty. Dirty. What do you call him?
Gareth Reynolds
His pitch.
Jake Johnson
The mistake was Dirty Vijay. You're right.
Gareth Reynolds
The pitch at the core is. Let's move. Babe is. Babe is like again, it's like, wait, yeah, go.
Jake Johnson
You're telling me these are retired captains?
Vijay
Some of them are. A lot of them are lower ranking, but the, the. Some of them that have reacted not so positively are the higher ranking ones.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Babe. You know, it's a great nickname that I've been called and given to people in the past. What's up, Captain? Captain what's up, soldier?
Vijay
Well, I already call the guys that are captains. I do already call Captain yes, pretty regularly.
Jake Johnson
So captain works. But here's what I'm saying. I think you're trying to force babe where it's not a natural fit. Your friends, of course they're babes. Of course they're sweethearts. Of course they're baggy jeans. The guys at work have natural nicknames. Captain, soldier, lieutenant, private, chief. You have it. You have an ocean a nicknames right here. But I'll tell you what they're not doing on a. If you think about it, especially on a ship. If these are navy guys, you're stuck on a ship underwater. I don't want somebody calling me cute ass. So I think you might be touching into something. So when my dad did it, when he would do these nicknames, first time I ever saw it was outside of Wrigley Field and he was trying to park. And he said it to the valet guy, he said, hey, good looking, could you park this car with an easy exit? And my brother. And my jaws dropped. It was like a 45 year old, tough looking black dude. And he looked at my dad and flirtedly kind of smiled back and said like, no problem, my man. And my dad goes like, thank you, thank. And I was like, what the. And I tried it with my brother when my dad wasn't around later where I said like, hey, sweetheart, do you mind? And they looked at me like they were gonna murder me.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
So I think that you got like. I think in terms of reading the room, we've got an ocean of nicknames, man. With anything war themed. Go ahead, Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I think you're right. I think it's like you might even not. It might not need to be capp in and start, you know, it could be like big guy, toughie. Like you could do stuff like that. That's maybe just a little more, I guess, based in the alpha brain. Because I think you got to leave babe for play Babes for outside those walls. If you were working for him, then it is kind of a fun game to try to get away with being a babe guy, but.
Vijay
So you're saying that I should call my bosses babe?
Gareth Reynolds
If you feel comfortable doing that, yes. Wait, but I think.
Jake Johnson
But Vijay, Gareth. And you just nailed it. I don't think you could call somebody who works under you babe. I think you got to give them a nickname of power. And the guys who. Who you work under, you give them the flirty bedroom.
Gareth Reynolds
You give them babe. You could call your people you work with renegade. Like you could come up with a new name for each guy, but it's toughness.
Jake Johnson
It's about you respect them and they are more powerful and they are Captain, renegade, soldier, killer. Rambo.
Gareth Reynolds
Rambo's good.
Jake Johnson
Jc. You call somebody jcvd.
Gareth Reynolds
John Claude Van Damme.
Jake Johnson
You damn right call somebody Rocky. Call somebody Apollo.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Jake Johnson
Call somebody Mike Tyson. Big Mike.
Gareth Reynolds
Iron Mike.
Jake Johnson
Iron Mike.
Gareth Reynolds
You work with a mic.
Vijay
I work with about 13 mics. Mike, don Jonathan, you know.
Jake Johnson
Well, hey, guys, who remembers in the old video game Mike Tyson's Punch out, who was the guy who had the rose in his mouth?
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, remember? God damn it.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, he had. He had, like, a little flair to him. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah, he had that beautiful long hair.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Let me see.
Jake Johnson
Cause we could just come up with nicknames from Mike Tyson's Punch Out. Pull.
Vijay
Pull names from there and go. Go from that.
Jake Johnson
I. I don't.
Vijay
I like that.
Jake Johnson
Gareth is now with these idea. Could you lean into the idea that people who work under you don't get the flirty ones and those friends and Don Flamenco.
Gareth Reynolds
You already got a don.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Work with a don. Don Flamenco.
Jake Johnson
You go flamenco.
Vijay
That's a good idea.
Jake Johnson
So what do you think about leaning in this direction that we're going? And it's a. You know, it's a little bit different than you, but it's more fun. But it's more fun. And I think yes. Yeah.
Vijay
It.
Jake Johnson
Babe.
Vijay
I use babe because it was fun. And now even if I pick all from, say, all from Punch out, all one game, if I have a different nickname for everyone through Punch out, that's fun to me, and I really like that.
Jake Johnson
I think that. So I think that's a big win, and I think once they get into that, they'll like that more than babe. But I also really would ask you to lean in to calling your bosses sweet names and seeing how that goes.
Gareth Reynolds
You got Bald Bull. You got Super Macho Man. Glass Joe King Hippo. Mr. Sandman.
Jake Johnson
By the way, Glass, Soda Popinsky.
Gareth Reynolds
Piston Honda. J Kid Quick. Ooh.
Jake Johnson
Bear Hugger.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, you got some winners.
Jake Johnson
You got Mr. Dream, but you can't do that. You. Oh, you got Little Mac.
Gareth Reynolds
Look, we built this together, but this is way more fun than babe. Now you're assigning Punch out character names to the guys you work with. It's gonna feel less flirty and weird to them, and it's gonna feel more. Just kind of strange. But I think you're way more able to get away with that.
Jake Johnson
Just imagine this.
Vijay
Way more fun.
Gareth Reynolds
Imagine babe outside of the boat. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
A guy, an Old retired captain walks in, he's got a question for you, and you go, Mr. Sandman, Mr. Sandman.
Gareth Reynolds
What can I do for you?
Jake Johnson
And then you go, ah, great tiger. Talk to me.
Gareth Reynolds
There's my great tiger. How was the weekend?
Jake Johnson
Yeah. You go, hey, Little Mac, give it to me straight. Louise, give it to me.
Gareth Reynolds
Doc Lewis, why don't you take lunch? SODA Popinsky, take 30. Enjoy a sandwich.
Jake Johnson
Get out of here.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh. Everyone, look alive. King Hippo's on the ship.
Jake Johnson
Here comes Glass Joe.
Gareth Reynolds
We got Bald Bow.
Jake Johnson
Some of these are better than others. I agree.
Gareth Reynolds
We're starting to scrape.
Jake Johnson
Some will hurt feelings. Bald bull can't be a bald guy. It's got to be hairy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Glass Joe has to be a super tough guy. King Hippo needs to be very skinny.
Gareth Reynolds
Skinny? Yeah. Like when you call that guy Tiny.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, exactly right. Piston Hondo. Random. And then Little Mac has to just be. It can't be a big guy, but.
Gareth Reynolds
Somewhere right in the middle, there's options.
Vijay
I love it.
Jake Johnson
You gonna do it?
Vijay
I'm absolutely gonna do it, but I will start calling my boss.
Jake Johnson
Can you do us a favor?
Gareth Reynolds
I'm about to ask the same thing.
Jake Johnson
You go for it.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, look, we've put on all this work. It's going to be great. And you're going to have to break these nicknames. And it doesn't seem inappropriate for us for. To ask you to have maybe your phone recording a voice memo the first couple times you test a few of.
Jake Johnson
These, send them all, and we can.
Gareth Reynolds
Cut them together and send them to us and let us hear kind of some of the reactions to this stuff.
Jake Johnson
Or even if we don't get the reaction. Vj Just King Hippo.
Gareth Reynolds
I think if you just get that, that's great. But how great would it be to hear some guy like, what? Incredible.
Jake Johnson
What do you mean, babe? I think this is a big win.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Honestly, babe, I think we've done. We built this city together, but I think this works pretty well, babe.
Jake Johnson
Me, too.
Vijay
I love it. I love it.
Gareth Reynolds
This is going to be good.
Vijay
I'll get back to you guys.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, Sweetheart.
Jake Johnson
Hey, sweetie. We're going to talk to you really soon. Thank you very much for the call. We loved it, honey.
Gareth Reynolds
All right. Thanks, babe.
Vijay
I'll talk to you later.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, cute ass. Talk to you later.
Jake Johnson
All right. All right, bag of jeans. We'll talk soon.
Gareth Reynolds
See you later, Kitty. All right. Kisses, baby. Bye.
Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
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Gareth Reynolds
Hello. Hello. Hi, welcome to. We're here to help. You're on with Jake. Gareth, got the boys. Can we get your name please?
Natalie
My name is Sarah.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi, Sarah. Sarah, how old are you approximately.
Natalie
43.
Gareth Reynolds
43. And where are you calling from?
Jake Johnson
You're just a kid.
Gareth Reynolds
You're a puppy.
Natalie
North central Pennsylvania will be a little vague there.
Gareth Reynolds
Sure we people to know about this. It's going to be a scandalous problem. What do you do for work, sir? Can we ask you that?
Natalie
You can. It's a weird job. Basically I work on slot machines. But the state of Pennsylvania won't let us call them slot machines. So I work on VGTs. VGT which stands for video gaming terminal.
Jake Johnson
And what do you do on slot machines? Are you doing the applied mathematics about who can win and how many you can win? Are you technician fixing?
Natalie
No, I'm just a technician that goes around and fix them when things go wrong with them.
Jake Johnson
That's cool. So Sarah, what can we do for you.
Natalie
So my daughter just turned 17. She has had her learner's permit for over a year now basically and she has been driving a total of one time. I really want her to get behind the wheel of the car and practice driving so that she can get her license, but I don't know how to motivate her to do it.
Jake Johnson
Oh my God, this is insane that she's not.
Natalie
Father was supposed to teach her, but he's not the most reliable human being in the world and we call them hasn't been taking her, so it's now fallen on me.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Wow, that is such. I shocked. Yeah. Because when, when we're 15 and a half, I mean all you're thinking about is.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, but also there's something about this generation and motivation which is shocking. I just don't want to do stuff.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
It's different.
Natalie
Well, part of it is she has anxiety. So the one time that she did go I, I wasn't with, I, she told me this, I don't know, like a month or two after it happened, but apparently she cried when she drove for the first time.
Gareth Reynolds
She. She what? So I guess cried.
Natalie
She cried.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Natalie
Because the anxiety just got to her about being behind the wheel, I guess. But I'm like kid, the more you do it, the less anxiety you're gonna have. Like, I guess it's scary when you.
Gareth Reynolds
First started, you gotta practice.
Jake Johnson
Well, I'm gonna tell you what we're not gonna do on this is we can't pitch sincere things about how to help a 17 year old with anxiety.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
So.
Natalie
No, I understand that.
Jake Johnson
So. But I'm just warning you to motivate and we're. Yes. Okay, that makes sense.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean my.
Natalie
Yes. I just want ways to motivate her to, to do it. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Like I, I get you can't help me with the anxiety.
Jake Johnson
We can't help with the big stuff, but we could maybe get this kid wanting to drive.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. I mean part of me thinks it is like, I mean looking, I. It is scary when you first start, so. And then you might want to. This is my first thought and this might be stupid. Just start watching movies about driving. Maybe throw on the Fast and the Furious a little bit, something like that. I can tell Jake likes the pitch. My other thought is, what if you came up with a reason why you can't drive and she needs to drive you somewhere?
Jake Johnson
This is where I was thinking, fuke emergency.
Gareth Reynolds
It's not like, let's say you hurt your wrist or your ankle and you need to go. You need to have her drive you somewhere. You're not gonna go on the freeways but you're just gonna take her on. Like she's just gonna take you on a little simple route. Get her behind the wheel again.
Jake Johnson
There's something interesting about this. What kind of town do you live in? Small town, suburban city.
Natalie
Where yet it's, it's pretty small. I mean the area where we are, there's a decent amount of traffic, there's some highways but we're very like there's rural roads minutes from where we are. So you drive on and not so you could get.
Jake Johnson
You could get rural roads pretty easily.
Natalie
Oh yeah, yeah.
Jake Johnson
Right. Okay. And what are three things is. What are we calling your daughter?
Natalie
Aura.
Jake Johnson
Flora.
Natalie
Cora. C O R A.
Jake Johnson
Okay, what's something that Cora really wants that you haven't said yes to yet? My kids, my kids really want cell phones.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm saying hanging in the good for.
Jake Johnson
You won't do it.
Gareth Reynolds
Good for you.
Jake Johnson
But it is a real want.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And it's a real no.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
17 year old girl has some wants. She is Sephora girl. What does she like? She want to see. She want to see a Taylor Swift live. She want to see Olivia Rodrigo or the great Billie Eilish? Who does she like?
Natalie
No artists that come around here unfortunately.
Jake Johnson
But we're talking, we're talking, we're figuring right now we're in the beginning stages of a negotiation. Right now we're just putting all the numbers on the. Right now we're at the beginning starts of a beautiful negotiation.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, is there anything, I mean there, there's got to be something that interests Korra.
Jake Johnson
What is something that Korra wants?
Natalie
Oh my gosh, she's such a simple kid. Like she, she doesn't. That's the thing.
Gareth Reynolds
What did you get for her last birthday?
Natalie
I really have to think about this.
Gareth Reynolds
What was the big gift for Korra's last bir day?
Natalie
The biggest thing she got was a PlayStation 5 and that was like two or three years ago now.
Jake Johnson
Okay, does she have a job?
Natalie
She does.
Jake Johnson
What does she do so she can make her own money?
Natalie
Yeah, she works fast food. So like that's why like her wanting something at this point she, she knows like depending on what it is, I'll split costs with her because she can make her own money now.
Gareth Reynolds
Sarah, how does she get to work?
Natalie
I have to take her. This is the thing. She's going to be going to college. Hopefully she's planning on at the end of next year when she graduates. And I want to have to be the one that has to take her to college.
Jake Johnson
Right.
Natalie
I want her to be independent so she can get there on her own.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
I don't know. This is a hard one.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. I don't know.
Jake Johnson
It's tough because we need to talk to her. I think because we need to know why, but because we could try to incentivize her.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, look, here's. I mean, here's. Here's the pitch. The. The first pitch is make it so she has to drive you somewhere. You've twisted your ankle.
Jake Johnson
Would you be willing to do a fake injury?
Natalie
Yes, but I'm afraid how much that would freak her out.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, she's anxiety. Also, she needs to practice. You can't do a fake thing. And then she's only driven once.
Gareth Reynolds
I. Honestly, Sarah, like, she needs practice. It's hard for us to say, force your teenager to drive a car like.
Natalie
No, no, no, no.
Gareth Reynolds
I understand.
Natalie
Honestly. You know what might work? She has listened to the podcast with me and loves you guys. I'm wondering if you two just kind of gave her a pack, by the way.
Jake Johnson
Thank you. That's gonna work.
Gareth Reynolds
Here's what we're gonna do.
Natalie
If that would work.
Jake Johnson
What is her name? That's gonna work.
Gareth Reynolds
Her name's Cora.
Natalie
Because she'll be, like, so embarrassed because I called this shit.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, let's not shame her.
Jake Johnson
No, but I'm with you. I'm with you.
Gareth Reynolds
Now let's make this the A side that might like.
Jake Johnson
Okay. Can we do. Can we do something? Hey, Mom. Mom, can we do something? Is Cora home? Is Cora home right now?
Gareth Reynolds
Wow, this is big.
Desiree
He is.
Natalie
Actually. She might be asleep, but. Let me go.
Jake Johnson
I think it's worth waking her up and putting her on the phone.
Natalie
She is asleep. She's asleep. She's waking up.
Jake Johnson
Okay, great. Open the door. Let's hear everything.
Gareth Reynolds
That crazy thing now I want to hear what. She's got way weirder hand.
Jake Johnson
Actually, just hand her the ph.
Gareth Reynolds
Throw water on her.
Jake Johnson
No, don't throw water. Just hand her the phone.
Natalie
Okay. All right, hang on. I have people on the phone that want to talk to you. It's fun. Hi.
Jake Johnson
Hello. Hi. Good morning.
Natalie
Hi.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi.
Jake Johnson
Were you napping?
Natalie
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Cora, this is Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds from. We're here to help.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi.
Natalie
Hello.
Jake Johnson
How you doing?
Natalie
Ow.
Jake Johnson
How you doing?
Natalie
What am I doing? How am I doing?
Jake Johnson
How are you doing? How you doing? How you doing?
Natalie
Currently a little sleepy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
How long was the nap?
Natalie
What time is it? Like 3ish hours.
Jake Johnson
Wow. Any good dreams?
Gareth Reynolds
Wow. Right home from school to nap. I love it.
Natalie
Yeah, I was pretty tired. No, I don't think I had any dreams. Okay, maybe I did, but I don't remember them.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, that's all good. Hey, Carl, while we're in this, like, sleep state, can I ask you a question?
Natalie
Sure.
Jake Johnson
How come you don't want to practice driving?
Natalie
I. It just makes me anxious.
Jake Johnson
I'll tell you what's great is once you get past that anxiety and you're driving, kid, because you're gonna have to drive yourself to college. Your whole life you're gonna have to drive, you know, but one thing right now is you got a little bit of fear in front of you. I think you gotta just face the fear and go through it. You know what I'm saying?
Natalie
Yeah, that's what I think too, but.
Jake Johnson
Because I know it is. But here's the beauty. What I would do if I was you. Can I just give you some stupid advice? If I was you, I wouldn't practice on a highway. I would go to like a country road and just drive up and down the street. Because guess what's going to happen every time you drive? It's going to get easier.
Gareth Reynolds
Also, Cora, you have a rare thing in the dynamic right now as far as driving, which is you actually have leverage over your parent big time, which is rare.
Natalie
Why?
Jake Johnson
Because your mom really wants you to practice.
Gareth Reynolds
Your mom wants you to start driving a little bit more. So what you can definitely do is start to pick things that you want.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, what do you want, Cor?
Gareth Reynolds
Like, and you can make her get them. Like, she'll sit in the car and you can go wherever you want.
Jake Johnson
Cor, you could do whatever you. You could have. You could say, you know what helped me, Mom? If you sang Beyonce while I drove.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And go like. But I'm not joking. It helps my anxiety. You could say, mom, would you wear an eye patch while I drove?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
She would go, sure, honey.
Gareth Reynolds
Anywhere.
Jake Johnson
Cor, we.
Natalie
Yeah, maybe I will do that.
Jake Johnson
No, not maybe. Let's figure something out. What would you like your mom to be doing?
Gareth Reynolds
Extreme leverage.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. What would you like now? Is there something you want? Like, what's a gift you want? Is there a concert you want to see? You like Billie? Eilish. What do you like video games?
Natalie
I'm not sure. That's like something I think I'd have to think about.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, well, this is what.
Jake Johnson
What would you like to See your mother do that would be really funny for you.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Natalie
Like, I bet if you're something like silly and goofy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Well, what you could probably do is you could probably convince your mom to wear a clown wig and a clown nose and you could drive her through a drive through and you could make her just order ketchup.
Jake Johnson
Would that be fun for you?
Natalie
Probably.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so we could start.
Gareth Reynolds
This is what I would recommend. Cora, why don't you come up with a list of five things, Five places you either want to go, they can be wherever, or five things you want your mom to do while you're driving. That's not going to distract you, but you do have a lot of leverage. So if you come up with this list of five, I bet you when you put your mom back on the phone, we can tell her about this and she'll sign off on it.
Jake Johnson
What do you think of this, Cora?
Natalie
I think that this is a good idea.
Jake Johnson
Let me ask you. Let me ask you just something straight up. When are you going to start practicing driving?
Natalie
What'd you say?
Jake Johnson
When are you going to start practicing driving, Cora? Because we both know, let's be honest with each other. You want to drive.
Natalie
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
You don't want to be. You don't want to be a 32 year old and go, I can't drive. You just feel it's not gonna. Can you do me a personal favorite? Have you ever listened to we heard how up.
Natalie
Probably like, because my mom probably has had it on before and.
Gareth Reynolds
I've heard it you.
Jake Johnson
But you don't really like it.
Natalie
Well, I don't think I've ever like, given my full attention to it, but I probably listened like in passing.
Gareth Reynolds
Try sometime. They give you five stars.
Natalie
Go ahead, J.
Jake Johnson
So I'm going to ask you to do me a favor. And you have no idea who I am, right? So it's just a random voice in your ear and maybe this isn't happening. Maybe this is a dream. Hey, Kora, you might still be sleeping right now. So when you wake up.
Natalie
I don't think I am.
Jake Johnson
You might be when you wake up from this weird dream from a curly haired man who looks like a. Like he's a JCPenney mannequin, by the.
Gareth Reynolds
Way, pretty attractive and he looks like.
Jake Johnson
He should be in an Annie remake as Annie, by the way, mixed with Mark McGuire.
Gareth Reynolds
At least, at least, at least, at least he drove here with clothes on. Go ahead, Jake.
Jake Johnson
Here's how I would pitch the guy talking to you. If Mark McGuire and Little Orphanage Would mush together, by the way, dressed like a JC.
Gareth Reynolds
Mark McAney.
Jake Johnson
Annie McGuire.
Gareth Reynolds
McGuire.
Jake Johnson
So here's what I'm asking you to do as a favor to the show, to your mother and everything. As soon as we hang up, just go to your mom and say I'd like to go driving right now and just drive for 10 minutes. That's it.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Will you do that? There's going to be a lot of people listening. This show is surprisingly. I'm not going to lie to you, there's people in Thailand who listen to it. There are people in other countries who are listening and you know what they all want to hear in a follow up up that you got your driver's license. I'm not, I'm not kidding when I tell you there is. There'll be. We get over. We get millions of downloads a month. This is a real thing. Millions. And they're going to, they're going to care if you k. Learn to drive. And when you get your driver's license, we're going to ring a bell and our audience is going to feel like this was a heartwarming moment.
Gareth Reynolds
Going to be like the Super Bowl.
Jake Johnson
And they're going to go like, like there's going to be on forums, people are going to be like go, Cora, you got it, girl. And a bunch of people are going to comment an email and go. And that's a very real thing. I was nervous too.
Gareth Reynolds
I was just going to say they're.
Jake Johnson
Going to go like. But she's just got to do it because it gets really fun. And when you call in, everybody's going to celebrate.
Gareth Reynolds
Everyone when you first start doing this has that anxiety and it's not the last time.
Jake Johnson
Right.
Gareth Reynolds
But you definitely.
Jake Johnson
That was Jeep.
Gareth Reynolds
Wow.
Jake Johnson
You started talking without a finish. You started talking.
Gareth Reynolds
I had a finish.
Jake Johnson
You're going to this a lot of people are going to feel then you like this, man, I curl my hair.
Gareth Reynolds
It's wrong. I mean it's get. Honestly, Jake, even sick of it. Move to the vest. Work the vest. Work the body.
Jake Johnson
You only brought the vest because of the hair.
Gareth Reynolds
Work. Work the body. That's concussed.
Jake Johnson
Cor. What, what do you think? Are you going to go today? I think take away the word. I think here's what we're going to ask for. In two weeks, we're going to follow up with you. Okay?
Natalie
Okay.
Jake Johnson
How many times are you going to practice driving in the next two weeks? And when I tell you there's people in Thailand who are interested, I'm not kidding when I tell you people in the Philippines are interested. I'm not kidding when I tell you people in Ireland are interested. I'm not kidding when I tell you do we have pretty good numbers in New York? We do.
Gareth Reynolds
But also, Cora, remember, you also can have leverage with your mother.
Jake Johnson
Mother.
Gareth Reynolds
Your mother's gonna sign off on wherever you want to go, whatever you want to do.
Jake Johnson
So we're not going to you. Are you gonna make the people happy or are you gonna let a little bit of anxiety win? We're talking millions of downloads, kids.
Natalie
I think I will let people be happy, yes.
Jake Johnson
When is it gonna start, Cora?
Gareth Reynolds
Not tomorrow. Go ahead.
Natalie
Fine. Today.
Gareth Reynolds
Great.
Natalie
And probably go to, like, some parking lot or something.
Jake Johnson
No, by the way, parking lot.
Gareth Reynolds
That's great. That's perfect.
Jake Johnson
Going in and out of the driveway, dear, is practicing. So, Cora, how many times are you going to practice in a week? And if you say up and down the driveway, guess what counts?
Gareth Reynolds
When?
Jake Johnson
If you say in around a Walmart parking lot. When? If you say up and down a country road. Victory.
Gareth Reynolds
If you want to drive yourself to work and your mom wears a clown outfit and you get out and then she has to drive home in it.
Jake Johnson
When done, how many times can we expect it in seven days? What's the over, under.
Natalie
Do you want me to, like, actually calculate that?
Jake Johnson
I want you to give me a number out of seven.
Natalie
Out of seven, sure.
Jake Johnson
How many? Seven days in a week?
Natalie
Like four.
Jake Johnson
Well, you promised me. Hold on. You promised me you'll practice four days out of seven. Yes, I'll take that deal. I won't push for another day. No take away. I think if you sign a deal, kid, you sign a deal. At 16, you're a baby. At 18, you're an adult. You're talking to a couple adults here. We're close to deals now. I'm not saying four. You said four. I would have said six. Gareth would have said, watch faster the Furious and curl your hair.
Gareth Reynolds
I also said other stuff.
Jake Johnson
Leave.
Gareth Reynolds
Work the body.
Jake Johnson
We're trying to lock in a deal here, kiddo. And if you're happy with four, I'll concede. You know what I really want? I want seven days until you get your license. Because you're already 17. You can get it at 16, but you know what I'm happy with? Go up and down the driveway, you do four out of seven days. Fuck, I don't love it, but I'll take the deal. So if you are willing to do four times a week, and if after you do it will you do me another big favorite? And if you don't want to do this, you don't have to. You're doing me enough of a favor by signing this contract. After each lesson, will you make a very short voice note and rate how you did out of 10? So all you got to do is go. Like, let's say you get in the driveway today, you're feeling really anxious, and you just pull back. Go on the street and pull in, and you go, I felt terrible. They go two out of ten. But guess what?
Natalie
You know what? I think that is a good idea, too. I might actually do that.
Jake Johnson
Do that. Because guess what? That counts. As if you just pull out and pull in counts and then guess when all of a sudden you go to the next one. Just go four out of ten and you know it's going to happen. We're going to be at a 7 out of 10 in no time.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep. And your mom will be wearing a clown outfit.
Jake Johnson
Just maybe the mom stuff, but I think it's good. But what do you think of that? Will you just record those voice notes and then send them to your mom and she'll email the show? So when we air this, I tell you we're relatively big in Thailand. I wouldn't say big, but we have viewers.
Gareth Reynolds
The Thailand stuff, it's freaking cool as hell.
Jake Johnson
You don't pay attention to our numbers. I do. We have people in Thailand.
Gareth Reynolds
It.
Jake Johnson
What's up? Anybody in Thailand listening?
Natalie
I believe you.
Jake Johnson
It's core. It's cool. Not only is one person rooting for you. Seven figures. So will you go today? Seven figures are cheering for you in.
Gareth Reynolds
A very helpful way.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. No one's against you. Everyone's cheering for you. All we're asking you to do is practice. And if you come in and you say 1 out of 10, you know what everyone's going to say? I get it, girl.
Gareth Reynolds
Exactly.
Jake Johnson
We have an agreement.
Natalie
Yeah. Yes.
Jake Johnson
And then will you do me a favor and will you record after today when you do your first one, just give yourself a rating. If you want to do a brief what happened, but you don't have to. And as soon as you're done, send it to your mom. She'll email it in the show, and we'll include all these at the end. Do you mind doing that?
Natalie
Yes.
Jake Johnson
Okay. And when are you gonna. Thank you, buddy. And when are you gonna practice? You're gonna go in like 30 minutes.
Natalie
Hungry. I want to eat dinner.
Jake Johnson
How about this? Hey, Corey. Earn the dinner. Practice. Earn the dinner.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Don't eat until you've driven up and down the driveway, kid.
Gareth Reynolds
And by the way, if you want to eat while you're driving, maybe you're right. Do what my buddy does. Just takes everything off.
Desiree
So.
Jake Johnson
All right, here's what happened, Cora. I didn't wear a shirt driving into work today and I got humiliated.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, well, and then he revealed Mike that it was because he wanted to eat. And he knows he's a sloppy little boy. And he knew he was going to cover himself in food food because he has a big pig tonight. So he ate without the shirt, pulled into a parking lot, everyone saw him naked in his car and he waved everyone away. But Nat, who you heard earlier on this, didn't understand. So she approached the car.
Jake Johnson
Thank you so much.
Gareth Reynolds
Embarrassed him. And then somebody knows for a long time ago, wanted to talk to him, so he had to get his clothes on frantically.
Jake Johnson
Emily.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. So now he's living. Cora, thank you very much. Can you put your mom back on real quick? We believe in you.
Jake Johnson
But Cora, like last thing.
Natalie
Yes.
Jake Johnson
I would like you to practice before dinner. Is that okay?
Natalie
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Do you mind?
Natalie
I think that's also a good idea.
Jake Johnson
By the way, the whole practice.
Natalie
Motivation.
Gareth Reynolds
Dinner's for closers.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, dinners for closers. By the way, kid, the whole practice, we're talking 10 minutes. Don't start thinking you got to do a two hour drive. It's not Fast and the Furious.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I mean, but it's a.
Jake Johnson
It's a.
Gareth Reynolds
It's one of the most successful franchises of all time.
Jake Johnson
Okay? It's a. It's a five minute lesson, okay? And, but guess what? If you're feeling confident, which is what's going to happen happen, don't be afraid to go a little bit further.
Natalie
Okay?
Jake Johnson
But if not, we win at a one out of ten. If you go, hey, zero out of ten, that's a victory. People in Thailand are gonna freak out. Can you throw your mom on the phone?
Natalie
Yep.
Gareth Reynolds
Thank you.
Jake Johnson
Thanks. We'll talk to you really soon. Everybody's gonna be cheering. We're gonna. In about a month, we're gonna be ringing that bell. When you get your license, people in the Philippines are gonna freak the F out.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Natalie
Yeah, I believe you will.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I know the numbers. Doesn't stop numbers shaming your host.
Jake Johnson
Co host. You're not my host. Hey, so here's what we got. Here's our deal. K is going to practice today, okay? It's before dinner. She's not going. She's going to determine how long it is. And what she does, it might just be up and down the driveway way. Whatever.
Natalie
She totally fine with that.
Jake Johnson
Whatever she wants to do, mom, she's going to do. Then after, on a voice note, she's going to rate herself out of 10. And then she's got. You're going. So maybe you need to hold it. Then you need to send all her voice notes of each practice, email them into the show, and we're going to include them and we're going to do a followup in, like a month, and then we're going to do a followup when she gets her driver's license. Okay. Okay.
Natalie
I think this is a wonderful plan.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. And I don't know if you know this, but we're. We have audience members in the Philippines and they are interested in. This would be my guess.
Gareth Reynolds
We're actually looking at the numbers right now in the Philippines and they're. They're the most invested part of the world.
Jake Johnson
So reminder that seven figures worth of downloads and the Philippines are interested in your daughter doing this. And when she gets her driver's license. Philippines. We're gonna have a celebration with a.
Gareth Reynolds
Flyer to the Philippines.
Jake Johnson
No, we're not. Do me a favor. You guys are gonna do it before dinner tonight, but make sure it's really important that she grades herself each time. And she's allowed to be honest. And it's allowed to be a bunch of zeros out of 10. She's just started.
Natalie
Sounds good. Sounds real good.
Jake Johnson
So I'm expecting an email in about an hour and a half because she's not eating dinner. She's practicing before dinner.
Gareth Reynolds
Dinner dinners for closers, like Jake said.
Natalie
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Don't be afraid to throw on the Fast and Furious later, too. It's not.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, don't do the Fast and the Furious. Also, Gareth wanted you to dress up like a clown and go through fast food. That was his pitch. My pitch was this.
Gareth Reynolds
Fast Furious. We'll talk to you later, Sarah.
Jake Johnson
Thanks so much. Starting to.
Gareth Reynolds
Naked.
Natalie
Okay, bye. May 1st, 4 out of 10. Got ice cream afterwards. May 3rd, 8 out of 10. I forgot to record one for the last time and the time before that, but I would say 9 out of 10 and 8 out of 10. Quick summary on how things have been going. We've been out about, I'd say half a dozen times at this point. Her anxiety level has definitely dropped from about a 10 to about a 3, which I figured it would once I got her behind the wheel and going. My anxiety level has gone from like a 2 to about a 10, but that's kind of par for the course for trying to teach somebody to drive, I think. We've mostly been practicing in the parking lot at her high school. She is starting to move on to back roads and we're kind of working out a plan on her probably driving home from school, but we haven't quite gotten there yet. I'll let you know more once I have more to share.
Jake Johnson
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Desiree
Hello.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi. Welcome back to we're here to help. You're on with Gareth Reynolds, known for his noodle arms. Jake Johnson, who's 28 again, can we get.
Jake Johnson
Also known for my noodle arm.
Gareth Reynolds
Also known for your noodle arms. Can we get your. Your name and tell us about the first couple call before we get into where we're at?
Desiree
Sure. My name is Sam, and my first call was regarding a couple of people outside my office.
Gareth Reynolds
Hot tub.
Desiree
Used. Yes. Yes, they used their hot tub.
Gareth Reynolds
Without. Without any nude tubbers.
Desiree
Regard for. Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, nude tubbers. What we call Jake and I when we get out of the shower. A couple new tubbers.
Jake Johnson
I prefer not to be called that.
Desiree
Noodle arms.
Jake Johnson
Shut up.
Gareth Reynolds
Sam, you shot the first shot today. Johnson, you shot the first shot today off Mike. Okay, so the issue was that it was your office, right? It's across from your office. Because of your. Where you are, you're able to see these people get naked in the hot tub. You're on with Michael. Ceramic. And. And what? Had you tried any tactics? And then tell us what our advice was to you, because I don't remember.
Desiree
Yeah, so you guys gave me some great advice. I had got a bottle of wine right away after our phone call and wrote a nice handwritten card to them and left it on their front porch and rang their doorbell and kind of ran away.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, we've got. We've actually got a picture of it here. Yes. Yeah, you got them a nice bottle of red and a nice card and a note that said, hi, neighbors. Just a friendly head. Guy heads up from next door. My office window happens to look out on your backyard. And I've occasionally seen you getting into your hot tub. Just a friendly FYI, in case you didn't know. Cheers.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Sam, was this our advice about the wine and the note and running away?
Gareth Reynolds
Away.
Desiree
It was. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Running away is, so, I gotta say.
Jake Johnson
Kind of solid, though. How that work out for you, Sam?
Desiree
Pretty good. It worked out pretty well, to be honest with you. The. The behavior stopped for a couple days. And then I had a really awkward encounter with the guy a few days later. He was taking out his trash, and he looked just straight into my soul. And we made eye contact for a really long time. And then it was after that that they went back to being naked.
Gareth Reynolds
So when you say it worked out pretty well.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, but Gareth, Gareth, you're missing a huge thing. I think ours. Obviously, our thing failed.
Gareth Reynolds
But the big thing is he was very nice and Canadian about it.
Jake Johnson
Yes, but it worked. And then he made direct eye contact with you, saw something in you, and decided to go back tubbing that.
Desiree
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
He dominated you with eye contact.
Jake Johnson
Sam, explain to me what you think happened there, pal.
Desiree
I'm not sure I. I see now that they can. They're making attempts to try to cover up their, you know, most private parts.
Gareth Reynolds
But what does that look like? What do you mean?
Desiree
Just kind of like, you know, that awkward shuffle where your hands are trying to cover up.
Gareth Reynolds
They're doing crotch hands. Okay. Love it, love it. Very neighborly. Okay, but hold on.
Desiree
Effort on their part.
Jake Johnson
But, Sam, what happened during that eye contact?
Desiree
Oh, it just was like he just stood there at the trash can staring at me, and I. I kind of stopped what I was working on. Just. I wasn't sure if he was looking at me or just in my general direction, but it really felt like he was looking straight at me.
Gareth Reynolds
How did he know that it was you that left the note? Jesse Sherlock jumping in?
Desiree
Yeah, he's got a ring doorbell, so he probably saw my face and then I. He also saw my minivan. My minivan, which is parked right outside my office. This.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, Sam, you left a lot of breadcrumbs out of this first time.
Jake Johnson
Sam, why did you run away? Was that our pitch or did you. Prof. That.
Desiree
I. I just ran away because I think I was a little more nervous about the interact. Yeah, that's just. I didn't mind confrontation, but then when it got down to it, I was pretty scared.
Gareth Reynolds
When you walked up there, was your plan to run away or were you going to hang in the pocket it.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, good question.
Desiree
I wasn't. I never intended to talk to them about it.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Because then you could have taken some moves to hide your face and whatnot, but like a knock. You could have knocked. The knocks allowed.
Jake Johnson
This is real. This is really funny stuff, Sam. So I just. Will you paint me a picture of what he looked like at that garbage can and what you kind of look like? Because it's shocking to me that he got the note, told his wife they stopped doing it. He sees you at a garbage can, and something in that eye contact decides. He says to his wife, we're fine.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, we can do crotch hands. That'll be cover.
Jake Johnson
And she said, agreed.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I mean, they saw what happened.
Jake Johnson
At that eye contact that changed the course of this relationship. That soon the hands are moving away from the crotch and they're basically saying, we don't care if you see.
Gareth Reynolds
And on top of Jake's question, how long was the eye contact? That's. But go ahead and start with the first.
Jake Johnson
Well, I would love to hear Gareth's question first. How long was the eye contact?
Desiree
It felt like a long time. I want to say it was probably five or six seconds.
Jake Johnson
Hold up like that. Sam, can I do something right now?
Gareth Reynolds
Count.
Jake Johnson
I'm going to count and you tell me if this is real. Okay, so ready? The eye contact. I want everyone to picture the eye contact. Now we're going to coin. 1, 1,000, 2, 1,000, 3, 1,000. 4, 1,000, 5, 1,000, 6, 1,000.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, it's awful.
Jake Johnson
Was it that length?
Desiree
It was.
Jake Johnson
Holy.
Gareth Reynolds
So, yeah, he. He changed his mind during that. Who broke the eye contact, Sam, you or him? You, right?
Desiree
He did. No, I'm stuck at my desk. So, yeah.
Jake Johnson
Oh, amazing. He looked. I didn't realize you were at your des.
Gareth Reynolds
He spots you see, that's what he was able to do. He saw the. He saw on the note that he had the Harvey Oswald, like, vantage point. And when he went out there, he was definitely trying to clock who'd been checking out him and his wife naked in the yard. And he looked up, he sees Sam. He determines Sam is the beta. And then he decides that it's okay to be naked.
Jake Johnson
Sam, I have a pitch.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, great. Go. Go to work naked.
Jake Johnson
We send robes. Just robes.
Gareth Reynolds
Sam, let us send robes.
Jake Johnson
Just robes.
Gareth Reynolds
Two robes.
Jake Johnson
Two robes. You know, we could maybe do David Walton, who played Dr. Sam. New Girl is a buddy of mine and he has created a robe business. Maybe I could talk to them about sending anonymously just two robes to their house.
Gareth Reynolds
Think two rows.
Desiree
That would be amazing.
Gareth Reynolds
Are you into that, Sam?
Desiree
I am, because I think you guys pitched that as a follow, potential follow up in your first call. I even prepped a letter, another letter to them to support that.
Gareth Reynolds
You've already prepped the letter.
Jake Johnson
What's the letter?
Gareth Reynolds
May you read us the robe note.
Jake Johnson
Sure.
Desiree
The robe note is. It says, hey, neighbors, I hope you enjoyed the wine. We've now shared what I can only describe as a biblical eye contact. You and your natural glory. Me at my desk. It was the real Garden of Eden moment. And the thing is, you're more visible than you realize. I totally respect your right to enjoy a good tubbin, but I just ask that you consider adding a robe to your transition.
Jake Johnson
Wow.
Desiree
Best of luck to you.
Gareth Reynolds
The sign offs are awesome. The sign offs are like good luck.
Jake Johnson
That, by the way, that's pretty good.
Gareth Reynolds
I agree. It's. You've got. You've got balls to. To have it already prepped. I think. I think a robe is a great follow up. I like that you're calling out the eye contact so that you're. Now. Now we're on the same page. I almost feel like now, if you're going to call it out that far, we could send you the robes and you could hand deliver.
Jake Johnson
I think, Sam, what do you think about doing the same thing where we'll send you the robes, you put it there, same note, very nice and friendly. Oh, the very nice and friendly. And then just say we. What's the note you're going to send again? Will you say that again? That felt a little insane to me.
Gareth Reynolds
But now I'm trying to think of the scenario though.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I'm trying to think of this because we can't get you in a danger zone, Sam, but would you read that one more time? And now let's imagine you drive up in your van, you go there, you drop it to the door of the note and you run away. Now this guy and you had a real six second stare. So let's think in reality because this is real life. What's that note say? My guy?
Desiree
So the note says, hope you enjoyed the wine. Now that we've shared what I can only describe as a biblical eye contact in your natural glory, me at my desk. It was a real Garden of Eden moment. The thing is, you're just more visible than you apparently realize and I totally respect your right to enjoy a good tubbin. I'm just kindly asking if you can consider adding a robe to your transition.
Jake Johnson
Can I pitch on your note, Sam?
Vijay
Of course.
Jake Johnson
What if we lost the first sentence and we started with I respect your right to a good tubbin. If we started there. There.
Desiree
Yeah, let's do it.
Jake Johnson
So how does that.
Gareth Reynolds
You're losing the biblical.
Jake Johnson
Losing the beginning and getting right into lo. Losing the eye contact. Getting right into. I respect your right for a good tubbing, but perhaps you're comfortable with these robes that I, you know, happily you know, purchased and if not, enjoy like I would give them the ending. And that is is if in the end of the day you want to let it flop around, let it flop. Gareth, I got a surprise.
Gareth Reynolds
Huh?
Jake Johnson
David Walton.
Gareth Reynolds
Holy gentlemen.
F
How are you?
Jake Johnson
Sam, It's David Walton, aka wow. Dr. Sam from New Girl is on the pod run.
Desiree
Wow.
Jake Johnson
Hi.
F
I'm walking my dog in Maine. What a pleasant surprise. So happy to be with you all.
Gareth Reynolds
Welcome to the podcast.
F
I love your podcast.
Jake Johnson
I'm gonna. And what's you, Walton? You got your podcast. Will you give it a quick plug really fast?
F
Oh, yeah. I'm doing an ill advised attempt to get good at stand up comedy, so I made a podcast called Starting Stand up in Maine, which is Where I live with David Walton. And it's sort of like a journal of a midlife crisis.
Gareth Reynolds
Gareth, good for you. Good for you.
Jake Johnson
David, I also need you to meet Sam, our caller really fast. You can't see him, but he's on. Sam, Dave, say hello.
F
Hey, Sam, how are you, David?
Desiree
I'm great.
Gareth Reynolds
How are you?
F
I'm doing solid. My mom just came to Maine and she handed me a bottle of absolute vodka.
Gareth Reynolds
This is the greatest walk.
F
Yeah, I have my hands full, weirdly. And then a picture of me when I was 8 somewhere in.
Gareth Reynolds
Imagine if the cops stopped you right now. How you doing, sir?
F
I know that's what 80 year old mothers do, they just paint a bunch of booze and old pictures.
Jake Johnson
No, I think that's what your 80 year old MOT.
Gareth Reynolds
A picture of yourself as a kid.
Jake Johnson
Would you say that's a universe like, you know, 80 year old women with their vodka and photos of David Walton as a kid.
Gareth Reynolds
You know, moms are.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Sam, will you tell Dave really fast your problem and what we pitched and then he's going to realize why I reached out to him in the middle of a follow up.
Desiree
Okay, so, David, I have an office building that looks back into a residential area, right into some people's backyard. And they have been enjoying their hot tub completely nude. And I have reached out to Jake and Gareth to try to help me with this problem.
Jake Johnson
And then what did we first suggest? And then where are we now?
Desiree
Yeah, so the first suggestion was to send them a bottle of wine and a friendly handwritten note. Just let them know that they're not invisible and that we can see them, essentially. That did not work. It wasn't short. Shortly after that they. The gentleman came out to throw out his trash and we made some significant eye contact and they went back to tubbing in the nude.
Jake Johnson
Walton, they made six seconds of direct eye contact.
F
Oh, I see.
Jake Johnson
The next day he and his wife go back in the tub naked and they just put one hand on the crotch.
F
That's their cover up. That's their modesty now.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, but he just said like fuck it. So then our next order of business. Business is will you read the note that we have, Sam? That we are going to do.
Desiree
All right, so the revised note that we decided was. Hey, neighbors, hope you enjoyed the wine. I totally respect your right to a good tubbin. I just kindly ask if you consider adding a robe to your transitions. But as my friend Jake would say, if not, let it flop.
Gareth Reynolds
Now.
F
I understand.
Jake Johnson
And then I remembered you had a Robe company. Is that still happening? Happening, of course.
F
Yeah. We're doing bulk sales now. But it's waking Ichi. Let's look. As the friend of the pod, I'd be happy to send a couple robes to these guys.
Jake Johnson
This is.
F
We have the finest terry cloth spa robe maybe in the world.
Jake Johnson
Maybe in the world.
Gareth Reynolds
That's probably in the world.
Jake Johnson
And so maybe we could. Dave, we could get you this guy's address. You could send a couple of the robes. We can get it to the neighbors.
F
Sponsored solution to this?
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Jake Johnson
This is what I'm talking.
Gareth Reynolds
And after you tell everyone else where they can buy it, since you only do bulk, why don't you send them 40? Let's just get nuts. Just 500 robes.
F
Now, Sam, just. I know this is a follow up, but is there any part of you that would think you might start to enjoy these neighbors and what they're doing?
Jake Johnson
Good question.
Desiree
You know, that was a. That was a question that came up after the first call. And at first it was comical. And because of the business that I conduct here in the office and also there's a children's therapy place right next door. I think it's probably worth putting a stop to it.
F
Yeah. We need to get some robes.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
F
On these people.
Jake Johnson
And Dave, you're the man to call.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
F
Yeah. This is a tremendous. A tremendous act on your part, Jake, bringing in your robe guy.
Gareth Reynolds
You have one robe right away.
Jake Johnson
You. You also know, Walton, you and I are guys who love having guys. Dave, Walton has a kung fu guy that we did kung fu in a garage in Pasadena.
Gareth Reynolds
Jake's carrying the torch in the saddest way. Jake's in Alaska. Make a movie. Did you bring your dummy with you?
Jake Johnson
No, I just zoom in with him. You.
Gareth Reynolds
So Mo.
Jake Johnson
So, Walton, we appreciate you. We.
Gareth Reynolds
David, where can people buy. Where can people buy the robes if they want to buy a robe?
F
Yeah. Wakanichi.com or the perfect bathrobe.com.
Jake Johnson
Perfect. And then we will. If you're good with it for real, we would love to hook you up. And we can send them the stuff if we need to cover anything for shipping or whatever you need or the wholesale happiness. Do it. Yeah.
F
Yeah. Here to help doing well, each robe retails at 500 US.
Jake Johnson
That's interesting. Yeah. Just send me the address. I'll send you the check. After those robes come, we're gonna go to.
Gareth Reynolds
We'll go to Marshalls.
F
Hey, Sam, really good luck with your problem and you're in the right place. And will you send me a picture of the, of, of the robes when they get there and we can do a follow up here.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, that's exactly.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, please. We'll do a whole follow up with it and then check out the robes too. Me send Sam before you give it to him so you could give a little review also and we'll talk about the robes a bit.
Gareth Reynolds
Right?
F
Amazing.
Jake Johnson
Sam, you're the best. Walton. I love you, buddy. I miss you.
F
All right, love you guys.
Jake Johnson
Thanks, David.
Gareth Reynolds
Appreciate it.
F
Yeah, of course.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, Sam, keep us posted.
Desiree
Will do. Absolutely.
Gareth Reynolds
This is awesome.
Jake Johnson
Thank you, Sam.
Gareth Reynolds
I could tell by your voice how awesome it is. Very excited. See you later, buddy. Yeah, take care.
Jake Johnson
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Podcast Title: We're Here to Help
Host/Authors: Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds
Episode: 172: Babe on Men & Do It For Thailand
Release Date: May 19, 2025
In Episode 172 of We're Here to Help, hosts Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds tackle two distinct listener problems with their characteristic blend of humor and earnestness. The episode delves into managing interpersonal dynamics at work and overcoming personal anxiety related to driving. Additionally, the hosts engage in a playful interaction with a returning caller, enhancing the episode's lively atmosphere.
Timestamp: [02:39]
Issue:
Desiree contacts the hosts seeking advice on how to address her neighbors' habit of using their hot tub in the nude, which is visible from her office windows. Despite initial steps to mitigate the situation, including leaving a friendly note and a bottle of wine, the neighbors resumed their behavior after a brief period.
Initial Advice:
Jake and Gareth recommended a subtle approach:
Outcome and Follow-Up:
Despite their efforts, Desiree reports that the neighbors continued their nude tubbing despite their friendly outreach. The hosts express a mixture of amusement and sympathy, acknowledging the challenges of influencing others' behaviors.
Notable Quote:
Jake Johnson (03:46): "It wasn't a dry eye in the house."
Timestamp: [58:12]
Introduction of David Walton:
David Walton, known for his role in New Girl, makes a surprise appearance to assist with Desiree's ongoing issue. His involvement adds a dynamic twist, as he offers practical solutions and collaborates with the hosts to craft a more effective strategy.
Collaborative Strategy:
Jake and Gareth coordinate with David to enhance their approach:
Notable Quote:
Gareth Reynolds (22:55): "You're the boss calling employees."
Timestamp: [31:01]
Issue:
Sarah reaches out for help concerning her 17-year-old daughter, Cora, who has significant anxiety about driving. Despite having a learner's permit for over a year, Cora has only driven once and becomes overwhelmed with fear when she does.
Hosts' Advice and Pitches:
Jake and Gareth brainstorm creative ways to motivate Cora to practice driving:
Interactive Solution:
The hosts engage directly with Cora by bringing her onto the call, creating a semi-scripted motivational session:
Follow-Up:
Sarah later provides an update, noting significant improvements in Cora's anxiety levels and driving frequency. The hosts commend her progress and maintain their supportive stance.
Notable Quote:
Jake Johnson (40:42): "Don't start thinking you got to do a two hour drive. It's not Fast and the Furious."
The episode concludes with the hosts reflecting on the effectiveness of their advice and the importance of supportive interventions. They reiterate their commitment to helping listeners navigate their personal challenges with creativity and empathy.
Notable Quote:
Gareth Reynolds (76:24): "This is awesome."
Episode 172 of We're Here to Help exemplifies the hosts' unique ability to navigate diverse issues with humor, creativity, and genuine care. Whether addressing boundary-setting with neighbors or overcoming personal anxiety, Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds provide listeners with relatable and actionable advice, all while maintaining an entertaining and engaging podcast atmosphere.