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Jake Johnson
And we are back. You know, I got something. We're here with Sweet Jesse. Sweet Jesse just had his first home run pitch.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
But I got something. I went to the LA Sparks game.
Eric Edelstein
Oh, that's right.
Jake Johnson
And my friend Jessica Williams gave me the seats. I was fraking courtside.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah, it looked good.
Jake Johnson
I'd never been courtside.
Eric Edelstein
I haven't either. What's that like? What is the.
Jake Johnson
It's the best. It feels like it's crazy. You're just in the game. It's a different experience.
Eric Edelstein
Remember when someone spilled the beer on the court during the game?
Jake Johnson
I was nervous about that.
Eric Edelstein
Did you have. I was gonna say I could see you having a fear along this.
Jake Johnson
I wasn't. I wasn't drinking alcohol, but I had a soda water that my wife got me. And it was one of these, like, she just killed it for me. She got me one of those, like, essentially a big gulps of soda water.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Where I was like, where did you even get this? Cop, you're the best. And then I took a few sips and I'm like, I'm not gonna hold it. I put it on the court and I just saw what could happen.
Eric Edelstein
And I was like, oh, Jake Johnson ruined Spark's game.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. O. Then somebody twists an ankle. But I will say I'm becoming a goddamn WNBA guy and I was really enjoying it. And since I've been following the league a little bit more, I did not get into the Caitlyn Clark hype when it started. I missed the all of her in college. I paid attention I thought it was cool what was happening, but I. I didn't get invol. I was like, great. But all of a sudden starting to catch up with what's going on in that league. Listening to shaq Talk about RG3. Have you heard that?
Eric Edelstein
No.
Jake Johnson
Where RG3 is talking about a player who went to LSU and Angel Reese, she's just an aggressive player, but I've watched. She's fun to watch. And RG3, Robert Griffin, third, for some reason wants to give a million opinions on her.
Eric Edelstein
I know, like, everything.
Jake Johnson
Like everybody now everybody's got a million. But you know what Shaq said in an interview?
Eric Edelstein
Huh?
Jake Johnson
Say that again, I'm gonna punch you in the face.
Eric Edelstein
Oh, my God.
Jake Johnson
And he goes, he took off his glasses. That's how serious his. Eric Edelstein sent it to me. Because Eric loves Shaq. The closest thing we have to Elvis Presley.
Eric Edelstein
Oh, man, Eric is just loaded with him. That is amazing, brother.
Jake Johnson
He is the closest we got to the King. He's in law enforcement, brother. But Shaq takes off his glasses and he goes, leave her alone. You Say another thing, RJ3, I'm going to punch you in the face. It was as real of a threat. I felt like I was in seventh grade.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
When you're like, you might actually. When somebody would give you like, hey, don't say that again. You're like, I'll say what I want. They go like, I'm gonna fight you after school. And you'd go like, I'm not gonna say it again.
Eric Edelstein
You know, when I used to do kids birthday parties for my job, for my income, I was one time I went to Shaq's kids birthday party.
Jake Johnson
Wow.
Eric Edelstein
And I can't remember what I was like one of the X Men or something like that. It was, you know, a very strange little life. But I went there. I mean, obviously it's understated how enormous he is. Like, when you actually see him, you are like, my God. And little kids were like, there was like a Fisher Price hoop. And little kids were trying to like, shoot on a Fisher Price hoop. And Shaq would keep blocking it. And they would be like, no, you don't, Shaq. And he'd be like, I'll do whatever I want. It's my house. And like, it would just. Yeah, it was just exactly like that. It was so funny.
Jake Johnson
He's the best.
Eric Edelstein
The best.
Jake Johnson
I also, in terms of that, when I first moved out here, I used to cater and I catered a gig at some like, wme. Or ca party, whatever it was. And every celebrity we grew up watching was there and I was giving them hors d'. Oeuvres. And what was insane about it was they were all exactly how they are in movies. Like, Robin Williams was doing like full Robin Williams, like, right, like walk up, he'd be in a group with like Billy Crystal and somebody else and he was doing Robin Williams, the scallops.
Eric Edelstein
Like, oh, yeah.
Jake Johnson
But then like they would all be laughing and I was like, this is an incredible show. And then I would walk over and I remember it was a young Vince Vaughn and he was holding court doing Swingers Vince Vaughn. And I was just like, Jamie Foxx was playing a piano and I was like, oh. And I was like, so this is what Hollywood is.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And Mercedesome was rude to me.
Eric Edelstein
What was she really?
Jake Johnson
Yeah, she said I gave her some hors d' oeuvre and then she goes, I need a napkin. And I was a very bad caterer. Like I got fire a lot. Very bad. I got like. I've had some really horrific stories as a cater. Not behavior people did to me, but my behavior where I look back and I'm ashamed of myself.
Eric Edelstein
But just not a napkin.
Jake Johnson
Well, just that I had no sense of how to do the job. I once did a job where I got hired by the guy I was working for at Upper Crust, which was called the Thing. He goes, how long have you been doing this catering? And I lied and said for years. And he goes, can you do one solo? And I go, of course, I can do anything. Of course the money's right. And he goes, 25 bucks an hour, cash. I'm like, done. He sent me to a house up in the hills where it was eight doctors. And it was eight doctors, they had a private chef. And I got there and it was just me and the chef in the back.
Eric Edelstein
So he's expecting like a world class waiter.
Jake Johnson
Yes. But the chef, I thought the chef was my boss. So I'm just hanging out in the back with him, we're cracking jokes and he was a fun guy. And I was like, dude, this shit smells so good. And then he was like, when are you going to like set up the front? And I go, whenever you'd like me to, sir. And he goes, well, I do the back of the house, your front of the house. And I go like, well, who's going to tell me what to do? And he goes, it's your doing.
Eric Edelstein
So you're getting 25 an hour for a reason.
Alyssa
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And he goes, just Set the table. And I go out like. Like the way I would in my house. It was like, no, this is a seven course meal.
Eric Edelstein
Oh, my God.
Jake Johnson
In the middle of it, because I dropped a fish on the floor.
Alyssa
Oh, my.
Jake Johnson
I picked it up wrong. And the fish broke in half. There's, like, a way to pick up fish.
Eric Edelstein
Seven course meal. And it's just you.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. And with. And they would say what they all wanted is. I was supposed to come out and.
Eric Edelstein
Say what it is.
Jake Johnson
Say what it is.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
But most of it was French Gareth. It. Nobody was laughing. So, you know, sometimes when you're dying. But it's funny. I would come out there and I'd go like, this is the boujon yash. Peppermint. And they would go, what are you saying? And I'd go like, I think he said mushroom. That was boojan yaf. And then they would go, boujon yaf is not a word. And I would go, give me one second. Let me hop back in the kitchen. Then they would go, okay, we got to go with the dessert. And I'm like, I'm still on this thing. My king.
Eric Edelstein
Is it buff? I ripped it in half.
Jake Johnson
The chef had to start coming out.
Eric Edelstein
Oh.
Jake Johnson
People started complaining.
Eric Edelstein
How many people? Eight.
Jake Johnson
Eight people. Eight.
Eric Edelstein
It's even, like, small. Oh, that is mortifying. So who fires you so you have no boss and somehow get fired?
Jake Johnson
Well, it was eight male doctors, and they were having, like, a night. They were all drinking wine and doing their thing, and they were all foodies, and so they spent good money to do this. And then when I dropped the fish, the guy hosting it goes. Because there was only eight pieces. The guy, when I dropped it, he goes like, that's enough. And the chef came out and started doing both jobs. I hung out in the back, and then the chef had me do all the cleanup. And I was like, that's fair, brother. That is fair, brother. And I just sat up there ripping cigs on the curb, being like, this isn't working for a jigster. I was like, this is. I came out to Hollywood to be a big shot. This is really bad stuff. But I will say, beautiful view.
Eric Edelstein
Those bottoming out moments are. I have. So when I used to do kids parties, there were so many. When I was just like, no. One time I got booked as Batman when I was repped by WME to do a party on Saturday at wme. And I was like, oh, my God.
Jake Johnson
How'd you do it? Did you cover your face?
Eric Edelstein
Well, it was partially covered. And And. And, you know, there's a lot of people. There's a lot of people there. So I'm just kind of, like, doing it for the kids. So I'm just favoring.
Jake Johnson
Oh, my God.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah. But I was so. I mean, I like, said to my boss after, I was like, never book me anywhere associated with this business ever again. Over and over again, all the time. And then one time I had to go. I took, like, two years off because I was working regularly, and then I had to go back to it.
Jake Johnson
Going back to a gig.
Eric Edelstein
That gig. Yeah, it was tough. And I. I had an old, like, you know, the old, old Batman outfit. I had that.
Jake Johnson
Well, you had like the 60s Batman outfit.
Alyssa
Yeah.
Eric Edelstein
Like, it was like. Should take it out of rotation.
Jake Johnson
Why would they put your body in.
Eric Edelstein
The guy, like five. And everyone would sometimes get the short end of the stick and you'd get old Batman and at least give you.
Jake Johnson
The one with the fake six pack.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah, that's what you normally have. Fake six pack. But every night. And so I was in the car in a play near a playground. I was just going. I genuinely was, like, crying. I was just like, this is. This is crazy. And I was like. And I got old Batman because that means the kids are like, what is this? And the whole party, like, it's fine. Like, you spent the whole time cleaning it up.
Jake Johnson
The life of a. Of an actor. There is so much humiliation. Guys, we gotta.
Eric Edelstein
We have a caller. Jesse, I knew it. I could feel your energy.
Jake Johnson
And without further go.
Eric Edelstein
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Alyssa
Hello.
Eric Edelstein
Hi.
Alyssa
Oh my God. Hi.
Eric Edelstein
You're not prepared for this. Welcome to. We're here to help. Can we have your name, please?
Alyssa
My name is Alyssa.
Eric Edelstein
Alyssa. Okay, Alyssa. Where are you calling from?
Alyssa
From Iowa City. Jake's old stomping grounds.
Eric Edelstein
Sure.
Jake Johnson
Have you gone to George's bar?
Alyssa
I have. Do you want me to go get a drink there tonight?
Jake Johnson
I would like you to get one of those hamburgers from the back, that tin little grill they used to use.
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
How about Deadwood? You ever going to Deadwood?
Alyssa
I have a couple times.
Jake Johnson
That's where I watch carrie wood throw 20 strike. Coach, back to you.
Alyssa
Nice.
Eric Edelstein
All right, Alyssa, so you're going to go there?
Jake Johnson
Hopefully.
Eric Edelstein
And how old are you roughly? And what would your memoir title be? Let's hear it.
Alyssa
I'm 24. And my memoir would be something like Metamorphosis or something, or Plot twist, something like that.
Jake Johnson
Okay, sure.
Alyssa
It's great.
Eric Edelstein
Love it. All right, well, what's going on, Alyssa?
Alyssa
So my adult neighbor bought a bouncy castle and I really want to jump on it. Ideally he would invite me over, but I think he's scared of me.
Eric Edelstein
Jake, can we just say how perfect this question is for this show?
Alyssa
This is a Gareth one.
Eric Edelstein
This is perfect. This is perfect. So your adult neighbor Jake 1.
Jake Johnson
This is a garret.
Eric Edelstein
100%. So your adult neighbor. Oh, can we could see it now? Now this is a full time bounce castle your neighbor has.
Alyssa
Yeah. So the first one. There's two. I sent you two pictures. He had a blue one at first, and that one was a lot bigger. Yeah, I think he returned it, but I'm not sure because it seemed like he struggled getting it into his living room. And so he got a smaller one, and now he uses that one often.
Eric Edelstein
So he's taking these down and putting them out for, like, just.
Jake Johnson
This is a college town. This is Iowa City.
Alyssa
Yeah, but he's not. We are not in a college area.
Jake Johnson
You're not.
Eric Edelstein
And it's just him in the picture we're seeing. It's just him in the bounce castle.
Alyssa
Yeah. He only jumps in it alone. He did have a bouncy castle party.
Eric Edelstein
One time, but he's very comfortable going out there and hanging out in a bounce castle on his own.
Alyssa
Yes. But if he sees me come outside. So my porch overlooks, like, their front yard area where his bouncy castle is. And if he sees me go on the porch, he'll deflate it and go inside.
Eric Edelstein
So he's embarrassed about his lifestyle?
Alyssa
I think so. But it's also in a very visible spot.
Jake Johnson
Does he have kids?
Alyssa
No.
Eric Edelstein
And you don't have kids either?
Alyssa
No.
Eric Edelstein
Okay, so we've got a guy with a bounce castle. You want to jump in. He has no kids. He goes out there alone. When you check it out, he runs away scared.
Alyssa
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Is this the beginning of a love story?
Eric Edelstein
It's got to be. This is rom com.
Alyssa
Well, I live with my girlfriend, so.
Eric Edelstein
Well, that's great for the story. That's great for the story.
Jake Johnson
It's called throttle.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Alyssa
I don't think that I should say anything because she doesn't think I should embarrass him or, like, make him paranoid that we're watching.
Jake Johnson
Well, it's not about that. Right.
Eric Edelstein
I got a pitch.
Jake Johnson
Yeah?
Eric Edelstein
What if. Because I think you're. It's weird. It's. It's going to be strange for you to go out there and be like, hey, what's up? Can I bounce? That's strange.
Alyssa
Yeah.
Eric Edelstein
For him. What if you rented a bounce castle yourself for a day? Just have it out there and show him that you're in the community, that you're an ally.
Jake Johnson
I kind of love it.
Alyssa
I wanted to do that. I wanted to buy my own bounce castle, but I don't have anywhere to store it, so I thought about renting one.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Alyssa
The only spot to put one is in his spot. So I would have to put the bouncy castle in his spot in his.
Eric Edelstein
Spot, meaning you share a shared space.
Alyssa
I think that's like, one flat spot big enough.
Eric Edelstein
I think that's okay.
Jake Johnson
I think you put a sign that says, you can jump on mine if I can jump on yours.
Eric Edelstein
It's opening the conversation. Yes.
Alyssa
Okay.
Eric Edelstein
I think you rent it. I think you put it in that spot. When he doesn't have it there, he's going to be like, wait, what's going on? There's another dog in the neighborhood. And then you're going to be jumping in it, and then he's going to see that. And then I think, yeah, you put a sign out there. Something like that. Way more inviting. Then at least he's not going to run away. Shamefully, when you go out there and check it out, at minimum, and then you can start the conversation.
Jake Johnson
Here's another pitch on that pitch, Alyssa. Okay, so when he's out there jumping, the reason you haven't gone out there is your girlfriend thinks it will embarrass him.
Alyssa
That's part of the reason. Also, I have, like, tried to compliment his bouncy house. I've gone out there, too. Well, I got too nervous. I think he's gonna think I'm, like, annoying or stupid for wanting to open his bouncy house.
Jake Johnson
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. So he's out there jumping alone in a bounce house?
Alyssa
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And you want to jump with him or you want to jump when he's not there?
Alyssa
Well, ideally, I would have a bouncy castle friend.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so you're looking to jump with him, but you're embarrassed that he's gonna think you're weird for wanting to jump in a bounce house with a grown man.
Alyssa
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Alyssa, you see how the logic's a little strange?
Alyssa
Yeah, it is a little strange.
Jake Johnson
I would say 100 strange, though.
Alyssa
That's why I called you guys.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Well, look, this. I think this is an easy fix, okay? I don't think a man puts a bounce house in his front yard so that others don't want to jump.
Alyssa
Okay.
Eric Edelstein
I think he's at minimum okay with.
Jake Johnson
Someone else jump and would maybe like it.
Eric Edelstein
Jump at the chance.
Jake Johnson
So I think it's just. I'm not a hundred percent sold, but if you like it, I could lean in. Because if you got another bounce house, he might feel competitive and be like, I don't know, that's her bounce house. Because what we're trying to do is say, maybe we can bounce together.
Eric Edelstein
You know what we could do? You could rent a bounce house and you could have Trouble setting it up and knock on his door and say, I just look so good that I wanted to get one, but I'm having a little trouble. I know you have one. Can you help me?
Alyssa
That's better, too. What if I rent a bounce house and he's not home the day I rent the bounce house?
Jake Johnson
Then you're bouncing in the bounce house alone.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah, worst kid. Then you got to do it again.
Alyssa
True. I still get a bounce in a bounce house.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, but. But that's. I mean, that's not. In my opinion, that's a win. But it's a different kind of win. Because you called in because you want to bounce in his bounce house.
Eric Edelstein
We're getting there.
Alyssa
That's true.
Eric Edelstein
So we're getting there.
Jake Johnson
Here's another thought. And this might be running a mile to go. A weird block. And this might be wrong. What if you left him a note that said, are you open for friends? Are you open to new friends bouncing with you?
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Or is this a personal bounce house?
Alyssa
I like that. Is this a personal bounce house part?
Jake Johnson
So is this a personal bounce house or open to the community?
Eric Edelstein
Okay, and then we leave that note on the bounce house.
Jake Johnson
In the bounce house.
Eric Edelstein
I would maybe tape it to the bounce house.
Alyssa
He takes the bounce house with him. Never alone.
Jake Johnson
The bounce house is never alone. Now I get it. He goes out, sets it up, and bounces.
Alyssa
Yeah, and it's weird times, too.
Jake Johnson
Oh, he's a weird guy.
Eric Edelstein
I. It seems.
Alyssa
It's.
Eric Edelstein
It's. It seems. It seems to me like you grease the wheels a little bit if you rent a cheap one, put it out there, either bouncing it, or seem to be struggling with it, and then you engage him, because if he's taking it in.
Alyssa
Can I make a suggestion?
Eric Edelstein
Yes.
Jake Johnson
What if you have your own bounce.
Gareth Reynolds
House party and you leave an invite.
Eric Edelstein
On his doorstep or in his mailbox? And then he knows that you like bounce houses, too, because he already had one.
Alyssa
True. He did have a bounce house party. We. We thought that he was having this party that no one was going to come to because he had, like, a table set out with drinks in the bounce house, and he was just jumping in the bounce house by himself. And then, like, 30 minutes later, like, 10 people showed up to his bounce house party.
Eric Edelstein
Wow.
Jake Johnson
So, you know, I mean, I was.
Alyssa
Really happy he wasn't alone.
Jake Johnson
Gareth, to you, the idea of a guy digging up a body in his backyard is weird. This is weird.
Eric Edelstein
Well, I did just have a giggle thinking of how often we've said bounce house. With great seriousness.
Jake Johnson
But it's crazy to me. A guy in his in college house.
Eric Edelstein
I don't, I don't relate to this guy. I, but I, I, I don't relate. I mean, more than the guy digging up Orville. Way more. But this is like, I'm not trying to. Nobody's get, nobody's going to get haunted because someone was bouncing. It's very strange to me to be bouncing in a bounce house alone. He's definitely high.
Jake Johnson
That's interesting.
Eric Edelstein
And I think, but I think I like Nat's pitch. I think you can do that. I also think that, you know, you might just be able to get there quicker with just one struggle in the yard to set up your own bounce house and say, it looked so fun. I rented one. I'm having trouble getting it up.
Alyssa
You mean something. I'm having trouble getting up my bouncy house.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, listen, I'm with you. You know what? You know what I really think you got to do here? And this reminds me, I don't remember the call, I just remember the term, but it was open a window and yelling. You like in that tub?
Eric Edelstein
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
Alyssa
Yeah. I was thinking about the hot tub episode.
Jake Johnson
I think this is similar where while he's doing it, you got open up the window and going, how's that bounce? And he goes, it's great. And then you go, like, looking good, man. That's a great bounce house. He's like, oh, yeah, I love it. You go, can I bounce?
Alyssa
No.
Jake Johnson
You know, you just yell, can I bounce?
Alyssa
That was the original plan, but we think it's going to scare him.
Eric Edelstein
I worry it is too.
Jake Johnson
It's the same as when like a VW bus drives by and they do the headlights at each other. You're just saying, like, I'm in the community.
Eric Edelstein
I think the best way to show you're in the community is to get your own bounce house. I think you're right. This guy is taking his bounce house inside every single time. I think he's, there's a, there's a bit of.
Jake Johnson
He's embarrassed or he doesn't want people destroying his bounce house.
Eric Edelstein
Maybe there's rules for bounce house.
Jake Johnson
Shoes, no shoes.
Eric Edelstein
That's the only rule. There's one rule to bounce houses. There's not a 10 commandment list for about. There's literally one no shoes. There are rules.
Jake Johnson
It's not a pool. I agree. That's it. My favorite pool rule, which I still always love, is if you have diarrhea, don't Go swimming.
Eric Edelstein
That's the hot tub, too. That's always the one where you're like, yeah. To have to put it on the rule list.
Jake Johnson
Hey, guys, if you have explosive diarrhea, don't jump in a hot tub.
Eric Edelstein
The same for you.
Alyssa
Yeah.
Eric Edelstein
We're asking you kindly to respect the others.
Jake Johnson
And then somebody goes, I have diarrhea, but I'm taking a tub.
Eric Edelstein
I mean, it's not terrible.
Jake Johnson
It didn't. It wasn't on the sign. It wasn't on the sign.
Eric Edelstein
I didn't know.
Jake Johnson
So you don't want to just yell, can I bounce?
Alyssa
I do, but I'm scared he's not going to bring the bouncy house out anymore after that. Yeah. Because he seems pretty chai. He seems like a nervous guy.
Eric Edelstein
I would.
Jake Johnson
How about this? Do you know where his door is?
Alyssa
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
How about this? As a note, thank you for brightening up the neighborhood with your bounce house. My girlfriend and I love it. We love seeing you. Are you comfortable allowing me to bounce with you? If not, that is totally fair, But I would love a chance to jump with you either way. All good. And then leave your phone number and just say. You could just text yes or no.
Alyssa
Okay. I like that a lot.
Jake Johnson
And then you go, if it's a no, I'll never follow up. And please don't stop bouncing. I love it either way. Just want you to. Just want to ask, but don't want to take away your joy.
Alyssa
And if he says no, I'll get my own bounce off.
Jake Johnson
And if you say no, you call back, and then we'll have some new pitches.
Eric Edelstein
Mine will remain the same. You will be renting your own bounce.
Jake Johnson
I agree, but I don't think he's going to say no. I think.
Eric Edelstein
I don't think he is either.
Jake Johnson
I think he'll write, okay, yes. All right, tell us, will you write the note as we're talking?
Alyssa
Yes, I'm taking notes.
Jake Johnson
Okay. But now you just go wild and you do the note. Let's hear it. And then, you know, we're going to do. You're on a cell phone, right?
Alyssa
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
We're going to finish the call with you walking over and delivering the note.
Eric Edelstein
Oh, wow.
Alyssa
Okay. I do have to get somewhere in, like, five minutes.
Jake Johnson
Let's go.
Alyssa
But I'll do it fast. Okay. Thank you for brightening the neighborhood with bounce House. What was the next part?
Jake Johnson
Thank you for. With the bounce house. Would love to bounce with you.
Alyssa
Yeah, okay. Would love to bounce with you.
Jake Johnson
But if you're not comfortable with that, I don't want to stop your joy.
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Either way, I'm fine with your answer. Here's my number. Text yes if I can bounce with you. Text no if you would rather bounce alone. Either way, thanks for brightening the neighborhood with your joyful bouncing.
Alyssa
All right, I'm gonna write ps. My cats like to watch you bounce.
Eric Edelstein
Your cats like to watch you bounce. I would not do the ps.
Jake Johnson
I would.
Alana
Jesus.
Eric Edelstein
Wait, but can you.
Alyssa
Sitting on the porch. I think he can see them.
Jake Johnson
Okay. My cat's like. Okay.
Eric Edelstein
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Natalie, what were you gonna say? Do it fast. We're losing her.
Eric Edelstein
Just your neighbor, Alyssa. So that he knows you're not just some random person walking by.
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Okay. And then, Alyssa.
Alyssa
Yeah?
Jake Johnson
Keep the phone to your face. And I want you to full sprint to his house. I want to hear the breathiness.
Alyssa
Okay?
Jake Johnson
And we're gonna time it. Okay? Ready? Tell me when you're ready to go. I'm gonna time you. How long do you think it's gonna take you to get there, drop it off, and get back?
Alyssa
I don't know. We'll see.
Jake Johnson
What do you think? What do you think? You think you can do it in under a minute?
Alyssa
Yeah. Not like two minutes. Give me two minutes.
Jake Johnson
Okay. On your marks, get set, go. Okay, go. Are you going?
Alyssa
I'm running.
Jake Johnson
How fast are you running?
Alyssa
As fast as I can.
Jake Johnson
Faster. Sprint. Sprint. Okay. What are you doing now?
Eric Edelstein
Did you fall?
Alyssa
Okay, okay.
Eric Edelstein
Okay.
Alyssa
I ripped off the next part of the paper.
Jake Johnson
What happened?
Eric Edelstein
What?
Alyssa
I just. I ripped off the good part of the paper.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Eric Edelstein
What?
Jake Johnson
Just. Okay, then. Are you.
Eric Edelstein
Slow down.
Jake Johnson
Are you. No. You near his place?
Eric Edelstein
She's gonna just walk.
Alyssa
Oh, God. I did it.
Jake Johnson
You didn't.
Alyssa
You.
Jake Johnson
Where'd you put it?
Alyssa
On his front porch.
Eric Edelstein
Just left it there?
Alyssa
Well, yeah, I was being timed.
Eric Edelstein
How much of it ripped? How much of it ripped?
Alyssa
Well, I got the note part.
Eric Edelstein
Okay, so part of the paper just ripped where the note wasn't?
Alyssa
Yeah, I ripped off my. I wrote it on the same paper I wrote the question on, so I had to rip that part off.
Eric Edelstein
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so.
Eric Edelstein
So it's just sitting there on the porch?
Alyssa
Is it.
Eric Edelstein
Is it attached to anywhere? Is it just gonna.
Alyssa
Door in the wind, it might pull away.
Jake Johnson
Under the door.
Eric Edelstein
You gotta put it, like, in the screen doors, something. Or bring tape.
Jake Johnson
No, no tape. Don't put it under the door. Go.
Alyssa
Quick.
Eric Edelstein
Come on. Run faster.
Alyssa
I'm running on the neighborhood sho list.
Jake Johnson
Alys, go.
Eric Edelstein
Well, it's not like you don't like fun Go.
Jake Johnson
And then when you.
Alyssa
The best part.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Alyssa
Is you can see where the bouncy house was because all the grass is matted down.
Jake Johnson
Great. Are you there in front of the house right now?
Alyssa
Yes. I did it.
Jake Johnson
Where did you put it this time?
Alyssa
I put it on the doormat, like, underneath the edge of it.
Jake Johnson
Okay, great. So it's stuck. Are you still there? Did you run back?
Alyssa
I'm in my driveway.
Jake Johnson
Okay, great.
Eric Edelstein
Okay. All right. There you go. Well, you've got to go. You did great. You've got a note there. It's sitting under a doormat.
Alyssa
Did you.
Eric Edelstein
Did you.
Alyssa
Timer, Jake?
Jake Johnson
Yeah. I stopped when she. She was at 54 seconds. She know I did it.
Eric Edelstein
Okay. He did do it.
Jake Johnson
54 seconds. You had gotten back, but we sent you back. It didn't feel fair to keep doing it.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Alyssa, this is great news. Will you follow up with us?
Alyssa
Yep. And I'll go have a drink at George's tonight.
Jake Johnson
Thank you.
Eric Edelstein
Can't wait to see where this goes.
Jake Johnson
Bye, bud. Thank you for the call.
Alyssa
All right, bye.
Jake Johnson
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Jake Johnson
Hello.
Alana
Hi.
Eric Edelstein
Hi. Welcome to the show. Can we get your name, approximate age and where you're calling from, please?
Alana
Yeah, sure. My name is alana. I am 34. I'm calling from Long Beach, California.
Jake Johnson
Beautiful beach.
Eric Edelstein
Alana. I mean, we're probably getting tired of this question, so we'll change it up soon. But if you were to write a memoir about your life looking back, what would the title be?
Alana
Oh, my God, I was not prepped for this.
Eric Edelstein
That's how we like it.
Alyssa
I think it would be.
Alana
Meow.
Alyssa
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eric Edelstein
Okay, well, you definitely weren't prepped. So anyone who thinks we prep these people, we do not prep. I mean, you just heard Alana's memoir title. All right, Alana, what is going on? What can we help you with?
Alana
So, yeah, I definitely need some help. I have a bit of a situation that involves my boyfriend in our Dungeons and Dragons campaign. We've been playing for about seven months and we've had about seven sessions. And I'm just finding that I absolutely cannot stand it. I am bored out of my mind. And the worst part is my boyfriend is our dungeon master. So he's the dm. He has made everything, the plot, the characters, the campaign. He's super duper invested in it. And I can just tell by looking at him like he's so excited. It's like a dream come true for him to do this, but I am having trouble enjoying it, so I don't.
Alyssa
Know what to do.
Eric Edelstein
Well, very clean setup. Have I told. I don't know if I told you this, Jake. I might have mentioned this on a show, but Berg and a few of my other buddies were in a Dungeons and Dragons thing.
Jake Johnson
I couldn't believe that.
Eric Edelstein
And they told me that this. They told. They were like It'll be fun. So I joined it. And I'm not kidding, it was like a visceral. It was like my cells were like, this is not for you. It was. I just couldn't. I couldn't do it. Every part of me was like, nope. And it was like, it was like three hours and. And at the end I just was like, hey, I'm out on this. And they were like, come back for one more so we can kill off your character. But it was like, they love it and there's a lot of planning that goes into it and they, you know, it's kind of like you're seeing these. They're playing parts and roles and stuff. And so you're kind of like, uh huh. But I very much empathize with what you're talking about, Alana. And it only complicates it that your husband, the dungeon master, is the one who's kind of planning all this stuff.
Alyssa
Yeah, he's just my boyfriend.
Eric Edelstein
Oh, boyfriend, Sorry. But do you. Is he. Are you at all turned off by the way that he's kind of creating this character and kind of at the driver's seat of all this?
Alana
It's definitely not a turn on, I'll say that. But I mean, like I said, this is important to him. He's having so much fun with it and I just don't want to like, burst his bubble and tell him that I'm not having fun and he's actually boring me to death.
Eric Edelstein
Alana, did you say that it was.
Alana
Your idea to start this? Yes, it was actually, because I started listening to like a comedy D and D podcast and on that show it sounded so much fun. Everyone's always laughing. So I was like, oh, we could do that with our friends. And it's just not turning out that way.
Jake Johnson
And Alana, what's boring about it, as a guy who does not play D and D, But I'm glad Nat Attack asked that because. So I thought this was going to be. It's his thing with his friends. He included you. There's an easy way out. It's very different. You said, let's do this thing. He said, I'll be the dungeon master. So you could be into D and D. You're just not into his version of D and D. Right.
Alana
I think that's what it is. Like, I would have loved to start a campaign where he's also a player and we get to play together with somebody who has more experience and DMing and it's just a little bit more Natural at it. But yeah, like, I would love to play and have fun doing it.
Jake Johnson
You just don't like how he runs the show. Is there anybody else. Is there anybody else in your group who you think would be a better Dungeon Master?
Alyssa
No.
Jake Johnson
Do you. How do you think you would do as Dungeon Master? This might be a run a mile to go A block, you said Good.
Alyssa
I think so.
Jake Johnson
Okay. This is where I'm going with my pitch.
Eric Edelstein
You're. I think you're eclipsing my pitch.
Jake Johnson
Let's hear yours first because we know where I'm going.
Eric Edelstein
How many people are in the league?
Alana
It is four players in the dm.
Jake Johnson
Is it considered a league?
Alana
It's a party.
Alyssa
Okay.
Eric Edelstein
No, it ain't. And is it. It's the same night every week.
Alana
No, we need. We try to meet once a month and just with scheduling it's different, but we try to stick to Saturdays at 11am.
Eric Edelstein
I was going to say if it was every week. I was going to say you now have a conflict and you just go out with your girlfriend and get wine every night that this happens.
Jake Johnson
But she's into the idea, so here's what.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah, no, you've. You've turned over some more interesting information.
Jake Johnson
Here's what I. I'm thinking, Alana. I think you do a coup mid game. And I say that I don't know much about Dungeons and Dragons, but by the title alone, I understand there's a little bit of conflict. There's some sword play, there's kings, there's takeovers. Do you understand why the spiral staircase and castles are the way they are when you're trying to take over the castle, you're running up the stairs with your sword in your hand. The staircase blocks it, so on top they can chop you.
Alana
Okay, so you want me to get on top of a staircase and chop him?
Jake Johnson
Yes, exactly. Right. What I want you to do is in early on, I want you to start planting the seeds where he was like, we are now surrounded by serpents. You go, we are not surrounded by serpents. There's a new Dungeon Master.
Eric Edelstein
Well, here the way it would have to. Again, I've only played it.
Jake Johnson
Walk me through it, Gary.
Eric Edelstein
Twice. What wouldn't he's play? So he's kind of planned out their adventure for the. The game. Right, Alana?
Alyssa
Yes.
Eric Edelstein
So what you're going to have to do. And again, I don't. I barely know more than Jake. But what you'd have to do is ask him for a peek into what his plan was and Then you, at some point during the game would have to reveal to him and everybody that there was an alternative plan and you were pitching a coup where you. You basically overtake him as the Dungeon Master and you're pitching a different adventure so that it's kind of like everybody participating has to draw, has to now go along with the. Choose your own adventure and maybe there's a vote or something like that. Does that track?
Alana
I don't know if, like doing that mid game without him knowing about it and without any of the other people knowing about it either. I'm not sure if that will be well received.
Eric Edelstein
So then the alt on that is that you say to him, I want to be the Dungeon Master for a game, and you show him how it's done. This is what I would say. Tell him. I mean, look, this was his thing, right? Originally.
Jake Johnson
No, she brought it up.
Eric Edelstein
It was your. But. But wasn't it? Because it was kind of his thing.
Alana
Well, he's definitely like. He was heavily on the nerd side, so I knew he would be into something like that.
Eric Edelstein
Right.
Jake Johnson
She heard the comedy podcast.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah. But she was trying to do something in the direct direction of something. She thought it would be a fun thing to do together because it was like something for him. So what I would say. So I. I think if you were to be like, hey, I want to be the DM for one. See what he says. And then you do. You plot it out, you do all that stuff, he's definitely going to have his little ego in some way affected by this. So you're going to. After that, one of two things will happen. Either. Or one of three. Either he's going to be like, all right, I got to step it up because you showed me how it's done. Or people are going to be like, you did a great job. You do it. Or there's going to be a little bit of attention and you're going to say, yeah, maybe I just shouldn't do it anymore. Or maybe I do it once every four months.
Alana
Here's the other thing, though, that being a Dungeon master, that requires a lot of work.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah. I was going to say you don't want it.
Alana
I don't really want that.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Alyssa
I want to show up and be drunk and fight.
Eric Edelstein
Okay, what if. But what if you plot it out, you do one, and at the end of your plotting, your character dies, you fall on the sword for the good of the group.
Jake Johnson
But she doesn't want to leave the group, Gareth.
Eric Edelstein
But I think. Well, Alan, I mean, I Don't know if there's the.
Jake Johnson
There is a solution.
Eric Edelstein
Okay.
Jake Johnson
I have no idea what it is.
Eric Edelstein
Okay, but your pitch is, how about this?
Jake Johnson
How do we improve the game? Or what is your specific question again?
Alana
I just want to know how I can tell him that, like, I would be okay with stepping down and not playing anymore because it's better than being bored for one Saturday a month. So I don't mind not playing anymore and maybe just finding a different thing to get involved with. But I just wanted not to tell him that he's not doing that great of a job, in my opinion, and.
Eric Edelstein
I don't want to do that.
Jake Johnson
But what could he do to improve it?
Alyssa
It.
Alana
I. I don't know. I think it just. It's a matter of he's more experience. It's like his first time doing it. And like the dialogue.
Alyssa
Chunky Jake.
Eric Edelstein
I'm gonna be totally honest, and I. I love my buddies. When I saw them playing, you know, it was like seeing my dad naked. It was just like, exciting. No.
Jake Johnson
Oh.
Eric Edelstein
Huh.
Jake Johnson
Go with what you were saying.
Eric Edelstein
What did you say?
Jake Johnson
Go with what you were saying.
Eric Edelstein
What were you saying? You said a word.
Jake Johnson
This will be cut out. You keep going.
Eric Edelstein
No, won't be keeping. Was like, it. I. I don't want to. It like, it's not a turn on. So.
Jake Johnson
I mean, I. I hear that.
Eric Edelstein
So she. So she. She's watching bad DMing from her boyfriend.
Jake Johnson
It's no bueno.
Eric Edelstein
It's embarrassing. So she wants, I think, for this. So that's why I would say tell.
Jake Johnson
Him not Dungeon Master.
Eric Edelstein
It's not look done properly. I still don't think it's hot Done shittily. You're like, yeah, yeah. So I think I would say to him, you want a DM for one? Show me how to do it. And then surprise everyone with you sacrificing yourself at the end. And at the end, he'll say, what was that? And you'd be like, I just wanted to try it for one. It's definitely more of your thing. You're so good at it. I just don't think it's for me. But I want you to keep doing it because you're great at it.
Jake Johnson
Interesting.
Alyssa
Wait, so I deal with the coup.
Alana
I become the dm, I kill my character, and then I just tell him my honest thoughts.
Eric Edelstein
No.
Jake Johnson
No.
Eric Edelstein
Did you sound. Did it sound like I was being honest at the end? No. You're lying to him and you're saying, you're so good of it. You're so good at it. I don't think I fit it.
Jake Johnson
No, here, here, here's my pitch to you. My pitch to you is ask to be killed off.
Eric Edelstein
That's what I did.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. You just say I'm not into it. I don't.
Eric Edelstein
Or you want to be evil.
Jake Johnson
What do you mean?
Eric Edelstein
Like you want an evil character now you're like done with the good.
Jake Johnson
But doesn't that mean she's still just in it? Cuz he's a boring dungeon master, so wouldn't he just make her a boring evil character?
Eric Edelstein
I don't know. Just say you want to die.
Jake Johnson
I think you gotta die.
Eric Edelstein
Say you want to die.
Jake Johnson
I think you just say the game has bored me to death.
Eric Edelstein
I wouldn't say that.
Jake Johnson
Just.
Eric Edelstein
I mean it's not for me. You're so good at it. It's not for me.
Alyssa
I think I could get away with.
Alana
Killing my character because she's not very smart. So I could just do something stupid and die.
Jake Johnson
Yes, you died early on in the game. And then you boogie.
Eric Edelstein
You know what I would say? Frame it as you want to take a break. Maybe you'll pick it up in six months and then never do.
Jake Johnson
What do you think of that?
Alana
I like the idea of going out with a bang. I like the idea of killing Gaia Moondancer.
Eric Edelstein
And then I like how she's name dropping there. Jake herself. She's like Madeline.
Alana
But yeah. And then just like letting him know afterwards, like even though he was doing a really good job, this just might not be for me. But keep playing and keep having a good time.
Eric Edelstein
Yep.
Jake Johnson
But that's what you want? I'm asking.
Alana
Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. I just don't want to be involved. He can still DM and you know, I like that if we keep it a little bit open ended and say, oh, maybe I'll pick it back up sometime or maybe we can do join a different campaign both as players and try it out then. But I like that. I think that's fair.
Jake Johnson
I mean that's easy. It's. It's a lot easier doing. No, this isn't. That's an easy solution and that's a win.
Alyssa
I.
Jake Johnson
What's a way harder solution is how you fix his DMing and I thought we could try to get there. If you just want to kill off your character, that's gonna work.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Never tell him he's bad at it. That's really hard to. That's going to be a relationship ender.
Eric Edelstein
That's fast.
Alana
Right. Yeah.
Alyssa
I definitely don't want to hurt his feelings.
Eric Edelstein
It's like watching someone be a terrible dancer. It's like, how do you like. It's not. It's not attractive.
Jake Johnson
Are you a good dancer, Gary?
Alana
That's entertaining, though.
Eric Edelstein
If I'm drunk, I'm pretty good.
Jake Johnson
If I'm drunk, Explain. What? You're so confident in yourself.
Eric Edelstein
Like, you're beatboxing. Goodbye, Nat.
Jake Johnson
What does that mean you're good at dancing? Like, what moves do you do?
Eric Edelstein
That's what I mean. The alcohol has to get. It gives me the flow, but, like, I find the beat.
Alana
Has anyone ever told you you were a good dancer?
Eric Edelstein
Yes. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Fans at his show who are looking for selfies? No. Is anyone ever.
Eric Edelstein
Wedding.
Jake Johnson
Who's your real friend?
Eric Edelstein
Yes.
Jake Johnson
What have they said?
Eric Edelstein
Wow, that was surprising. I'm shocked.
Jake Johnson
Well, that's not what I expected. Hey, man, the wedding. You got drunk during the reception and that was really surprising.
Eric Edelstein
Nobody saw that coming.
Jake Johnson
Hey, man, this was at the church. Could you please sit down?
Eric Edelstein
Hey, save it for the reception. I've heard all the big things, all.
Jake Johnson
The compliments that you heard.
Eric Edelstein
There was no music.
Jake Johnson
You found the beat of life.
Eric Edelstein
I found the beat.
Jake Johnson
So, Alana, what do you got? What are you gonna do here? What do you think?
Alana
I think. I think I'm gonna die.
Jake Johnson
Interesting.
Eric Edelstein
I forgot what the call was about for a minute. Out of context, I was like, I don't think you've heard us properly.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I think she did after that dancing stuff. And how are you going to phrase it? How are you going to get out of this? Are you going to do it in person, via text, at the game? What do you think?
Alana
I think I'm going to.
Alyssa
Yeah.
Alana
I'm going to, like, rig the game. I'm going to find a way to kill myself.
Alyssa
And that would be it.
Eric Edelstein
Yep.
Jake Johnson
And do you want to bring it up to him before, or are you all. Are you just going live seeing what happens?
Alana
You know what? I've done seven sessions where I've been completely bored, so I'm going to have some fun for this last one.
Alyssa
He's not going to see it coming.
Jake Johnson
And.
Alana
But, yeah, it's gonna. And if I can take anybody else down with me, I think that would be fun, too.
Jake Johnson
I like it, too. And are you a lady who likes to drink alcohol?
Alyssa
Yes, I am.
Jake Johnson
What about if you had three too many before you did all this? How about let's just bore every session?
Alana
I'm wasted every session and I'm still bored. So that Just.
Eric Edelstein
You know what? I'm gonna call this a win. Win. I don't think the league's gonna grieve too hard when you're not around. I'll be honest.
Jake Johnson
I, I, I would say rather than just. What's your character's name again?
Alana
Gaia Moondancer.
Jake Johnson
What if you see if Gaia Moondancer doesn't just die, but what if she tries to kill the game?
Alyssa
I kind of like that.
Jake Johnson
What if you say dancer turn into animals.
Alana
I can turn into an animal. I can turn into like a big bear or something.
Jake Johnson
Yes.
Alana
And then just go crazy because what?
Eric Edelstein
That's what made a wedding.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. And the big bear going like this. And I found the beat. What if Gaia goes so crazy that you force your boyfriend as a Dungeon Master to actually step up his game and become a good Dungeon Master or sacrifice the game? Because some of these Dungeon Masters these days, they haven't earned their stripes. To become a Dungeon Master, you need to slay all the monsters. How? He just takes.
Alana
Yeah, that's the thing. I think if he had had some experience as a player first.
Jake Johnson
You're giving him the experience. He went right to headline him fight for it. And if he destroys you, bravo. But if you destroy him in the game, it's because you're simply not ready, baby boy.
Eric Edelstein
Here's what's great about this. Jake has no idea what he's talking about.
Jake Johnson
That I've never played the game. But what I do know, kind of.
Eric Edelstein
He is kind of making sense.
Jake Johnson
But I do know if he can't control the game, the game controls him. And he is not the dungeon master, he's the dungeon servant. It's time for you to grab the sword.
Eric Edelstein
All right.
Jake Johnson
Lay him down. A wonderful dancer at wedding.
Eric Edelstein
Alana, we gotta go dance the dance.
Jake Johnson
Of knights and princesses. I dance the night away.
Eric Edelstein
All right, Alana, we gotta go. So Alana, keep us posted. Keep us posted on what happens. Let us know. No, you do not. Stop it.
Jake Johnson
Once upon a time in a far off land, there was a bunch of boys and girls.
Eric Edelstein
What?
Jake Johnson
And Santo was an elf.
Eric Edelstein
No. Jesus Christ. All right, Alana, we gotta go. Keep us close. Stop it. I agreed to a Brazilian. That's all I'm thinking about. All right, take care. A lot of. Keep us close posted. Bye bye.
Jake Johnson
Love you.
Alana
Thank you so much.
Eric Edelstein
Bye. Hello.
Alyssa
Hello.
Eric Edelstein
Welcome back. Who are you?
Alyssa
My name is Alyssa.
Eric Edelstein
Alyssa, Jake, anything.
Jake Johnson
Hi, Alyssa. How you doing?
Alyssa
Good, good.
Eric Edelstein
What's. Where are you calling from, Alyssa?
Alyssa
From Iowa City. I went to George's and had a drink for you. Hey.
Jake Johnson
Oh, is this a follow up?
Eric Edelstein
Yeah, yeah. Follow up.
Alyssa
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Oh, that's right. What'd you think? What'd you think of George's?
Alyssa
It was pretty good. I went and sat on the patio. So it was just like a parking lot with a gate around it and some folding chairs.
Jake Johnson
Wait, there's their patio. Oh, but you went inside that great dive bar, right?
Alyssa
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
There's still a pizzeria right next to it.
Alyssa
I don't think so.
Jake Johnson
That used to be delicious. Okay.
Eric Edelstein
I love, like. Wait, what? Alyssa, what was your first call? Do you remember, Jake?
Jake Johnson
No.
Eric Edelstein
No, me either.
Alyssa
Okay. Bouncy castle.
Eric Edelstein
Bouncy castle.
Jake Johnson
All right, so, Alyssa, take over. Walk us through the problem for those maniacs who don't go back and listen.
Eric Edelstein
Those people are just. They disgust me.
Jake Johnson
J. Jake, you're getting Trumpy. You don't want them to be our listeners.
Eric Edelstein
Those people are disgusting, Jake. Why do they even bother?
Jake Johnson
We don't even want them anymore, so.
Eric Edelstein
We don't even want them.
Jake Johnson
Tell us what the original problem was. I remember you running across the street, which was incredible, but what's happening?
Alyssa
So you guys had me write a note to the neighbor. My neighbor, my adult neighbor, has a bouncy castle, and I want to be friends with him and jump in his bouncy castle.
Jake Johnson
This is a happy ending. Keep going, Alyssa.
Alyssa
All right, I need some more help.
Eric Edelstein
Oh, shit.
Alyssa
The note that we wrote, we put on the porch. And then bad Iowa weather. It was raining for a week, so he did not pick up the note. I felt pretty pathetic watching the note sit on the front porch in the rain for a week. And then I don't think he uses his front door unless he's using the bouncy castle.
Jake Johnson
Understood.
Alyssa
But then the note was gone one day, and I didn't get a text back because in the note, we wrote the text. Me, yes or no. If he wanted to bounce together. And I don't know if he found it, if it blew away or what.
Eric Edelstein
The note is great. Dear Bouncy Castle King is the best start to a letter.
Jake Johnson
Gareth, will you read the note?
Eric Edelstein
The note is under the doormat of the bouncy Castle King. Dear Bouncy Castle King, thank you for brightening the neighborhood with your bouncy castle. If you are interested, I would love to bounce with you sometime. If you are not comfortable with that, it's okay, too. Here is my number. Number Text yes. If you are interested, text no. If you would prefer to be left alone to Jump in peace. Your neighbor, Alyssa P. S. My cats love to watch the castle. It's good.
Jake Johnson
Okay, go ahead, Alyssa.
Alyssa
I have more information. So this weekend, I went for a walk and I saw another bouncy castle. And it was him again, but on the other side of the house, where I can't see it. And he has a new bouncy castle.
Eric Edelstein
Wait, so it's not good. Jake, the bell.
Jake Johnson
Was he alone? Jumping, yes.
Eric Edelstein
This guy. What is with him?
Alyssa
My theory is that he. Okay, this is an odd theory, but it's the only thing I can think of. I think he's a bouncy castle tester because he gets new ones all the time, and then they're gods.
Jake Johnson
I don't think that's how it works.
Alyssa
Okay, well, I thought that would be a pretty cool job.
Jake Johnson
I don't think they sent it to your house to just bounce on them.
Eric Edelstein
I think, by the way, a factory. Alyssa, what a. What a lovely job you've invented.
Jake Johnson
What a thank you, romance novel character.
Eric Edelstein
Hey. Hey, Dan, what did you think? New model? Yeah, she bounces pretty good, but, I don't know, a little too much give to me. And by the way, not that haunting. The vampire at the top didn't scare me throughout. How was the netting? The netting was good. The netting was good and secure.
Jake Johnson
So what do you think, Alyssa? He's just out there?
Eric Edelstein
Well, he. He read the note and he wants to be left alone. That's what he wants.
Alyssa
I don't know if he read it or if it blew away because we also had extreme winds that day, but.
Eric Edelstein
He moved the bouncy castle to the other side.
Jake Johnson
All right, Alyssa, I got a pitch.
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Next time he's jumping in there, you got to go face to face.
Alyssa
Okay?
Jake Johnson
You just gotta do it. You gotta just say, right, hi. Can I jump with you? And if he pauses and doesn't want to and says, sure, go. Never mind.
Alyssa
All right.
Jake Johnson
Or try to.
Alyssa
I don't know when he's jumping anymore. I would have to be a creepy neighbor and go look at the other side.
Jake Johnson
So you already are a creepy neighbor. I mean, think of you ran across and put a note there, and your cats watch him jump.
Eric Edelstein
You're on a podcast about how to get into his bouncy castle.
Alyssa
You're right.
Eric Edelstein
He left a note.
Jake Johnson
It's too late for you. So now we lean in.
Alyssa
Okay. Just, like, sit in the parking lot and wait for him to get in the bouncy castle.
Eric Edelstein
Well, the other version of this is that you just knock on the Door. When you know he's home, you knock on the door. If he doesn't answer, there you go.
Jake Johnson
Let's go. Right now.
Eric Edelstein
I kind of. Yes. Is that possible?
Alyssa
I can't go right now because I'm. I'm actually at work.
Eric Edelstein
Leave work. Quit. Quit your job.
Alyssa
Where do I work?
Eric Edelstein
Quit your job.
Alyssa
I can't quit.
Eric Edelstein
Well, I am quitting soon, but let's quit today. Well, I think what we should do is the next time, I don't want.
Jake Johnson
Her knocking on his door.
Eric Edelstein
Okay?
Jake Johnson
We don't know if he's a psycho.
Eric Edelstein
We do actually know he's a psycho. He's bouncing in a bouncy castle. Alone.
Jake Johnson
Alone. I want her in the safety of a front yard bounce house.
Eric Edelstein
Okay.
Jake Johnson
And I think what you gotta just do. Alyssa, on warm Saturdays, check the front of the property.
Eric Edelstein
Or. Jake, we just renote.
Jake Johnson
But she's not reading those notes.
Eric Edelstein
Well, the.
Alyssa
So my original plan, when it blew away is I was gonna write a second note, front door. And I'm an art teacher, so I made a miniature ceramic bouncy castle replica. And I was going to.
Jake Johnson
You got a pick of it?
Alyssa
Put it on his front porch. No, because it exploded in the kiln. So I have to remake it.
Eric Edelstein
I don't know if that helps or hurts. I don't. Alyssa, I God love you, but I think putting a ceramic bouncy castle on there is. It's. Maybe. I think maybe the kiln did you a favor.
Jake Johnson
So, Alyssa, do you want to re. Note and go to the front door?
Alyssa
So the front door is where I left the note. The garage is the other side. So I could tape something to the garage.
Jake Johnson
I. I feel like this is a bad idea.
Eric Edelstein
I was going to say. Well, no, I think you got to.
Jake Johnson
Go face to face, dude.
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
We tiptoed in the dark. It ended up weird. It got all rainy and windy. Let's not play the same game twice and expect different results.
Eric Edelstein
Okay, I. I agree.
Alyssa
I think I'll start going on more walks. And if he's out there.
Jake Johnson
And if he's out there, you just say, start with this beautiful bounce house.
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Then he'll go, gareth, let's do it. I'll be her, you be him.
Eric Edelstein
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Beautiful bounce house.
Eric Edelstein
Thanks. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
It's a new model. Yeah.
Alyssa
Huh.
Eric Edelstein
It's just the latest one. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
How she bounce?
Eric Edelstein
Good.
Jake Johnson
You testing him for a job or for pleasure, brother?
Eric Edelstein
Testing them for a job.
Jake Johnson
Is that your job? To test?
Eric Edelstein
I'm asking you if you're asking me that.
Jake Johnson
Yes.
Eric Edelstein
No.
Jake Johnson
So it's for pleasure.
Eric Edelstein
Was. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
You mind if I jump with you?
Eric Edelstein
It's pretty tight in here.
Jake Johnson
No, it isn't. It's about 12 by 12.
Eric Edelstein
I'm bouncing on all the zones right now.
Jake Johnson
I'll stay out of your way. Ginger Rogers, Fred Astaire, huh? With dance partners.
Eric Edelstein
Maybe I could leave it up and you can bounce in it when I'm done.
Jake Johnson
I'm gonna leave you alone.
Eric Edelstein
Thank you.
Jake Johnson
Now, let's give her one that's a little bit more positive.
Eric Edelstein
All right. Okay.
Jake Johnson
How's the bounce?
Eric Edelstein
Good. Today?
Jake Johnson
Yeah?
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
It's a new model. No.
Eric Edelstein
I don't know. I'm not sure. I. I just wanted to get one that was like. Like a firehouse.
Jake Johnson
That's cool. You mind if I bounce?
Eric Edelstein
Will you take your shoes off?
Jake Johnson
Of course. I know the rules.
Eric Edelstein
It's the only rule.
Jake Johnson
You got it.
Eric Edelstein
Get in here.
Jake Johnson
I'm Alyssa. I'm in love with you.
Eric Edelstein
Of what?
Jake Johnson
Alyssa, what do you think?
Alyssa
I like it.
Jake Johnson
Right.
Alyssa
And I can take no as an answer. So.
Jake Johnson
Yes. And if you go like this, and if you. You'll get a read. You'll go, how's the bounce? And if he's just cold, you go like this. Have a great day. Keep up the great bouncing.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And then, you know.
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Just a cold guy. Who wants to bounce with a cold guy?
Alyssa
Yeah.
Eric Edelstein
I. I like it. I. Him moving it to the other side is concerning, so. Yeah, I think that's the safe way. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. But just say, how about this, Alyssa? I'm gonna be the guy. You're you. I'm bouncing, and I'm gonna try to be as honest as I can about this.
Alyssa
Okay?
Jake Johnson
So you walk out.
Alyssa
Out.
Jake Johnson
I'm sweaty. I'm in a pair of shorts and a T shirt, socks on, no shoes. I'm bouncing in Iowa City. I was at Deadwood last night, and I went to the bookstore across the street, and I went to the PED Mall.
Eric Edelstein
All right. He's thinking of more places. He's out. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Kate Asbergren was the best teacher there.
Eric Edelstein
Okay.
Jake Johnson
She now teaches that, I think. Cole.
Eric Edelstein
All right. Action.
Alyssa
Hey, Bouncy castle King.
Jake Johnson
What's that?
Alyssa
Nice bounce house.
Jake Johnson
Thanks.
Alyssa
New model.
Jake Johnson
Do I model?
Alyssa
No. Well, sure. Do you model for bouncy houses?
Jake Johnson
I don't know what you're asking me.
Alyssa
I like your bouncy house. Can I jump?
Jake Johnson
No.
Alyssa
Okay, bye.
Eric Edelstein
Hey, could she stop your neighbor? Could she have. If she didn't do the model thing, yes. Okay. I'm gonna go back to my house.
Jake Johnson
Thank you, neighbor. Let's try again. I'm bouncing. I'm working up a little Glisten. Not quite a sweat.
Alyssa
Nice castle.
Jake Johnson
Thanks.
Alyssa
Does it jump nice?
Jake Johnson
Yeah, it's got a nice bounce to it. It's not too firm. It's got a nice bounce to it.
Alyssa
What? Have you ever thought about jumping with someone else?
Jake Johnson
Say that again.
Alyssa
You ever thought about jumping with someone else?
Jake Johnson
I don't know how to answer that.
Eric Edelstein
Hey, I'm. I was just coming outside from next door real quick. Maybe just be polite and ask if you can bounce in there. Get to it. All right, I'm going inside. Why?
Alyssa
Can I please bounce out of your bouncy castle?
Jake Johnson
Not after that weird thing you did before, but maybe we could start over. All right. I have a full sweat at this point.
Alyssa
Hi. Nice bouncy castle.
Jake Johnson
Thanks. Yeah.
Alyssa
Jump on your bouncy castle, please.
Jake Johnson
What?
Eric Edelstein
Hey, I'm the neighbor. Let me just do it with him and then just do what I did.
Jake Johnson
Okay?
Eric Edelstein
Yeah. Okay. Hey.
Jake Johnson
Hey.
Eric Edelstein
Bounce today, huh?
Alyssa
Huh?
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Eric Edelstein
You mind if I get in there and bounce a little with you? Is that a cool.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, just take your shoes off.
Eric Edelstein
Thanks. All right. Try that. Alyssa. I'm gonna go back in my house.
Jake Johnson
I'm bouncing. I'm fully sweating.
Alyssa
Hi. Can I bounce?
Eric Edelstein
Hey, it's me from next door. Remember when I said do what I did and then you forgot a part of it?
Jake Johnson
Truly the worst at this.
Alyssa
This is.
Jake Johnson
All right, listen, take a breath. Take a breath.
Alyssa
Okay.
Jake Johnson
Okay. I'm bouncing out of the bounce house.
Alyssa
Hi. I like your bouncy castle.
Jake Johnson
Thanks.
Alyssa
Can I bounce with you in your bouncy castle?
Jake Johnson
Sure. Just take your shoes off.
Alyssa
I can do that.
Eric Edelstein
There we go.
Jake Johnson
Hey.
Eric Edelstein
Hey.
Jake Johnson
What do you think?
Alyssa
I like it.
Jake Johnson
Will you record it when you do it?
Eric Edelstein
And then you go in there and your phone drops out and he sees you recording it, he's like, what the Is this?
Alyssa
Yeah.
Eric Edelstein
You feel okay?
Alyssa
Sounds good. Yeah.
Eric Edelstein
Okay. I feel. I feel you're a little nervous that it hasn't even happened yet.
Alyssa
I am a little nervous, all right. I feel extremely creepy.
Eric Edelstein
Well, let me remind you one thing. This guy is in a bouncy castle, alone, jumping.
Alyssa
Correct.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Eric Edelstein
You're okay.
Jake Johnson
I agree. And you're outside.
Eric Edelstein
Yeah. You're fine.
Jake Johnson
Well, look, if you don't feel safe, do not do it.
Alyssa
It's not that I don't feel safe. I feel fine. I just feel like a creepy person.
Jake Johnson
Alyssa, you are. But he bounced in another man's bounce castle.
Eric Edelstein
But he's alone. It's He's. He's. Look, he's not Pee Wee Herman. It's a bit of a bizarre thing to begin with. So it's not like you're walking up to a person you don't know and being like, can I watch TV in your house? He's in a bouncy castle alone. All right, Alyssa. So take more walks. See if you see him. If you see him, do not approach right away. Get your phone out, hit record, put it in your pocket. Start the small talk. Make it short but nice.
Alyssa
Okay?
Eric Edelstein
Okay.
Alyssa
Deal.
Eric Edelstein
You got this?
Alyssa
I got this.
Eric Edelstein
Go get him.
Jake Johnson
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Episode Summary: "Jump at the Chance & The Death of Gaia Moondancer"
Release Date: July 28, 2025
In Episode 192 of "We're Here to Help," hosted by Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds of Headgum, listeners are treated to a blend of heartfelt advice and humorous banter. The episode revolves around two primary callers, Alyssa and Alana, each seeking guidance on unique and quirky personal dilemmas. True to the podcast’s style, Jake and Gareth navigate these challenges with a mix of earnest suggestions and comedic interludes, occasionally bringing in their friend Eric Edelstein to add more flavor to the discussions.
[14:00] Alyssa's Dilemma: Alyssa calls in from Iowa City with an unusual predicament: she’s fascinated by her adult neighbor’s bouncy castle and wants to jump in it with him. However, her attempts to connect have been thwarted by the neighbor’s reclusive behavior.
Alyssa’s Story: Alyssa explains that her neighbor owns a bouncy castle but only uses it alone, creating an awkward barrier for her to join in. Despite her efforts, including leaving a friendly note, the neighbor remains distant, partly due to her fear of being perceived as creepy or intrusive.
Notable Quote:
Alyssa (14:08): "If he sees me come outside, he'll deflate it and go inside."
Jake and Gareth’s Initial Suggestions: Jake suggests Alyssa rent her own bouncy castle to create a sense of community, making it easier to approach her neighbor without appearing confrontational.
Jake (18:06): "I think you put a sign that says, you can jump on mine if I can jump on yours."
Gareth adds to this by proposing Alyssa demonstrates her interest indirectly by showing she’s part of the bouncy castle community herself.
Alyssa’s Follow-Up Efforts: After implementing their advice by leaving a creative note and attempting to engage directly, Alyssa updates the hosts that her neighbor has continued his solitary bouncing habits, even acquiring a new bouncy castle despite her efforts.
Jake and Gareth’s Continued Support: The hosts remain supportive, offering further strategies such as face-to-face interaction and maintaining a positive demeanor. They emphasize the importance of Alyssa expressing her genuine interest without overwhelming her neighbor.
Notable Quote:
Gareth (22:21): "That's a rom-com right there. This is a love story in the making."
As Alyssa continues to seek advice, Jake and Gareth navigate the complexities of neighborly interactions, balancing Alyssa’s enthusiasm with her neighbor’s apparent discomfort.
[37:00] Alana's Dilemma: Alana, a 34-year-old from Long Beach, California, calls in with frustrations about her boyfriend serving as the Dungeon Master (DM) in their Dungeons & Dragons (D&D) campaign. Despite her boyfriend’s passion and engagement, Alana finds the sessions monotonous and uninteresting.
Alana’s Story: Alana has been part of a D&D group for seven months but struggles to enjoy the game. Her boyfriend, as the DM, is deeply invested, creating intricate plots and characters, which paradoxically makes the game less appealing to her. She revels in not wanting to burst his enthusiasm but finds herself bored to the point of wanting to step away.
Notable Quote:
Alana (38:24): "He's super duper invested in it. ... I just can't stand it."
Jake and Gareth’s Initial Suggestions: Jake proposes that Alana take over as DM, hoping a fresh perspective could invigorate the campaign and align it more with her interests.
Jake (42:14): "Here's what I’m thinking, Alana. I think you do a coup mid-game."
Gareth adds that Alana could subtly introduce changes by planting seeds of new plot twists, thereby organically shifting the game’s direction.
Alana’s Concerns: Alana expresses worries about undermining her boyfriend’s efforts and the potential impact on their relationship. She fears that overt changes might not be well-received by the group.
Additional Host Insights: Gareth empathizes with Alana’s situation, sharing his own outsider experience with D&D. The hosts discuss the delicate balance of addressing creative differences without causing personal rifts.
Notable Quote:
Gareth (44:12): "It was like seeing my dad naked. It was just like, exciting. No."
Final Advice: After brainstorming various strategies, including character-driven exits and alternative engagement methods, Jake and Gareth recommend honest communication. They suggest Alana express her feelings transparently while acknowledging her boyfriend’s enthusiasm, thereby preserving the relationship and possibly finding a compromise or new avenue for shared activities.
Jake (50:35): "Never tell him he's bad at it. That's a really hard thing to do."
[27:00] Alyssa’s Follow-Up: Alyssa reaches back out to update the hosts on her continued struggle and the neighbor’s elusive behavior. The hosts encourage her to remain persistent yet respectful, emphasizing the importance of personal boundaries.
Live Role-Play Advice: To provide more tangible help, Jake and Gareth engage in a live role-playing scenario with Alyssa, guiding her through the process of approaching her neighbor with confidence and friendliness.
Notable Quote:
Jake (66:00): “I like it, too. And are you a lady who likes to drink alcohol?”
The role-play aims to equip Alyssa with practical language and strategies to break the ice without coming across as invasive.
Outcome: While the role-play is interrupted by Alyssa's real-world commitments, it serves as an illustrative example of the hosts' approach to problem-solving—combining practical advice with humor and empathy.
In this episode of "We're Here to Help," Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds effectively navigate two distinct yet equally challenging scenarios presented by their callers. Through a combination of thoughtful advice, creative brainstorming, and good-natured humor, they provide valuable insights while keeping the tone light and engaging. The interactive elements, including live role-playing and ongoing support, highlight the hosts' commitment to genuinely assisting their listeners, all while maintaining the entertaining essence that defines the podcast.
Notable Closing Quote:
Jake (71:09): “Remember, all the advice given on We're Here to Help is for entertainment purposes only, and all listeners should be adults and make their own decisions.”
Community Building: Alyssa’s situation underscores the importance of creating shared experiences to foster community ties, even in unconventional contexts.
Effective Communication: Alana’s call highlights the need for honest and respectful communication in personal relationships, especially when addressing differing interests.
Balanced Advice: The hosts showcase a balance between practical solutions and empathetic understanding, ensuring that advice is both actionable and considerate.
Humor as a Tool: Humor serves as an effective tool in diffusing tension and making difficult conversations more manageable.
"We're Here to Help" continues to deliver its signature blend of humor and heartfelt advice, making listeners feel supported in their unique life challenges. Whether dealing with quirky neighborly interactions or navigating the complexities of personal hobbies within relationships, Jake and Gareth excel at providing insightful and entertaining guidance.
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