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Jake Johnson
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Katie
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Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
Oh, hey. Welcome to gift wrapping.
Gareth Reynolds
Whoa.
Jake Johnson
So is Saldana.
Katie
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Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
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Katie
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Jake Johnson
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Katie
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Jake Johnson
I'm the worst. I only got my mom a robe.
Katie
Well, it's better than socks.
Jake Johnson
So I have to trade in my old phone, right?
Katie
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Jake Johnson
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Katie
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Gareth Reynolds
Too for my aunt Rosa.
Katie
Forget that. Aunt Liz will be jealous.
Jake Johnson
Sounds like my family drama.
Katie
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Jake Johnson
To T mobile.
Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
You look good.
Jake Johnson
About you too.
Gareth Reynolds
He looked nice. Really? A little gray beard? Yeah, you look good.
Jake Johnson
Getting older?
Gareth Reynolds
Nah, but you got good. You got good salt and pepper.
Jake Johnson
What's going on with you, buddy?
Gareth Reynolds
I'm hammered. No.
Jake Johnson
Have you been loosening up?
Gareth Reynolds
No.
Jake Johnson
You deserve it, man. You've been on a grind, brother.
Gareth Reynolds
I know, but I'm. I. I haven't been. I have like. You know what? I've been doing like this whole week because I've been like. I'M gonna have some wine tonight, and I'll have sips and then I'll pass.
Jake Johnson
After 45 minutes last night, first time in ages, I was like, you know what? I'm cracking a bottle.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
I had half a glass. I was like, delicious.
Gareth Reynolds
It's pathetic.
Jake Johnson
I was exhausted.
Gareth Reynolds
It's. It's like if I. If I could push through to, like, a half bottle, then I'm like, all right, now we're moot. But I. I can't even get there.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I feel the same way. Well, I also think you and I have both been traveling a lot.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, it really does take it out of you.
Jake Johnson
I gotta say something that's gonna excite you and the community.
Gareth Reynolds
Listen to you.
Jake Johnson
You're gonna like. You're a showman always. Gareth, what do you got? Old world showman, man. I should be living out of a tent.
Gareth Reynolds
You are. Yeah, you really are.
Jake Johnson
In another lifetime, I traveled around and lived out of a tent and would say, isn't this the best, everybody?
Gareth Reynolds
Well, you know, you'd have. You live like a. Like, ruined top hat and some rats, and people would be like, this guy's.
Jake Johnson
He. Let me tell you, I got an idea. I got an idea. Now that we're in Missouri, that.
Gareth Reynolds
That you need to write a. A time, like a period piece where you were in the 1840s, like, working out of a tent.
Jake Johnson
I would love it. Let me tell you something that's going to. That's going to be exciting. Gareth. We've had two different people write in and offer, without joking, to donate a kidney. Your thoughts?
Gareth Reynolds
That's a weird email.
Jake Johnson
A great email.
Gareth Reynolds
Now we got to get the match, though. Well, so we don't know.
Jake Johnson
Here's what I'm doing in the real world. I forwarded them to the caller, and I said, this is a little bit more intense than the friendship game. So anybody who writes in, I'm gonna just send to you. You do some vetting, and if there are people you like, and it's more than one, as of now we've got two. Then we're gonna bring them onto the show, and then we're gonna do a game.
Katie
Wait, wait.
Gareth Reynolds
Are you suggesting that if there's. If there's more than one match, that we literally are going to pick a personality?
Jake Johnson
I think the.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, this is.
Jake Johnson
That's. The.
Gareth Reynolds
This is organ porn. This is pork.
Jake Johnson
Well, that's what this goddamn community is about. Didn't my brother create a website called we need to Pick?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, but I don't know if that was an Oregon. Yeah, honestly.
Jake Johnson
Name one. Name one. Which photo of Steve to put in the calendar. By the way, that calendar. You did not look at the email I sent you, Gareth. No, I know. That's just one photo. Morgan made a comp calendar.
Gareth Reynolds
I saw.
Jake Johnson
Did you look?
Gareth Reynolds
No.
Jake Johnson
Gareth. There are Steve Berg quotes in.
Gareth Reynolds
Is.
Jake Johnson
So funny. She did such a good job with that calendar there. Each month there's just a different quote. Are you. Are you seeing it?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Just read a couple.
Gareth Reynolds
Don't give them all away in Steve voice.
Jake Johnson
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
There's just something so appealing about Saturn. Great planet.
Jake Johnson
What month? You have to say the month first.
Gareth Reynolds
October.
Jake Johnson
Okay, hold on.
Gareth Reynolds
Wait. I think that just. I think I just got a screenshot of one of them.
Jake Johnson
Oh, Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, no, no, no. Sorry. Stop. Come on, chill, dude.
Jake Johnson
Remember the showman thing? I'm in a tent right now, rain's hitting us.
Gareth Reynolds
I know.
Jake Johnson
And I'm an audience of nine people.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm the guy who ate some dimes, and you're like, wait, those are not. Oh, we want to hear January. Yeah, I had dinner with a psychic once. Super stressful.
Jake Johnson
Give me another one.
Gareth Reynolds
Let's skip ahead. Let's see what we got a little later in the year here. What do we go to April? Song, dance or battle? A professional needs to be ready for all three. I mean, it is.
Jake Johnson
It's the calendar of the year, man.
Gareth Reynolds
It is like he's Brad Pitt. Demand more gargoyles on your local buildings. What?
Jake Johnson
Demand.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, one more.
Jake Johnson
This is it.
Gareth Reynolds
Let's get lost together.
Jake Johnson
I mean, Steve Berg, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, but what do you think of this kidney business?
Gareth Reynolds
I. I mean, if we have an embarrassment of kidneys, that's crazy. But it's also.
Jake Johnson
Massive news for the show and for what this team's all about. We might be part of somebody needing a kidney. Someone in this community going, I'm interested. Figured out if they're a match. Having them all on the show. Now you talk about a follow up, Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, to have a kidney party. Shocking. Well, you know, Jesse Eisenberg just gave up a kidney.
Jake Johnson
He did?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
How do you know that?
Gareth Reynolds
He's a friend. No, he did. Like, someone needed a kidney, so he donated it.
Jake Johnson
Great.
Gareth Reynolds
We should have him call in. Well, if we're talking about how do.
Jake Johnson
You always insert yourself in things? And I say you're never gonna do it.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Gareth, will you put your name on the list?
Gareth Reynolds
What are you doing?
Jake Johnson
Producing. I'm producing.
Gareth Reynolds
No, I want to talk to you.
Jake Johnson
Off.
Gareth Reynolds
You know what I Am doing on Saturday, working on a wedding speech with a nine year old.
Jake Johnson
You are?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
That's happening.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Oh, my God, this show's the best. Just. It's your first session. Yeah. All right, so that's going to be. That'll be on Patreon.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
On Monday. So if you want to hear that, go to the Patreon and you're going to record all of it. Just. Will you put all of it up unedited?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. I'll just.
Jake Johnson
Do a follow up.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't even think we use it until we can, you know, a little further down the line, but. Yeah, I know. So we're. You know, the kid has some nerves. But.
Jake Johnson
Oh, my.
Gareth Reynolds
Saturday, we're chatting. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Now.
Gareth Reynolds
And that's just round one.
Jake Johnson
I agree. But let's do this now, really quickly. We can't go long because this is an intro. We. Everybody's gonna say, get to the show. Yeah. But here we are. Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Don't just go. Showman.
Jake Johnson
Pigley and motem. Not what I was saying. Let's do a little practice round. I'm the little boy.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Jake Johnson
In three, two. Piggly and no.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I'm gonna. The first thing is gonna be a lot of like, well, what do you want to say about your dad? So there's gonna be personal information, you know. Okay. All right. You don't know.
Jake Johnson
Do.
Gareth Reynolds
What do you love about your dad and his fiance's relationship?
Jake Johnson
I don't know. Huh? I don't know.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't think this is going to work, Little boy.
Jake Johnson
Garrett. Come on.
Gareth Reynolds
Just call me Garrett.
Jake Johnson
Garrett. Yeah, I dropped the H. Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know. I really don't know. I. A lot. I'm going to be vetting him and I'm going to be. I think we'll get there.
Jake Johnson
Can I pitch. Can I pitch an idea?
Katie
No.
Jake Johnson
Come on.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. All right, go ahead.
Jake Johnson
Come in with three soft jokes about dads getting married.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm not going to come in with them.
Jake Johnson
Why not?
Gareth Reynolds
Because I wanna. I wanna get. I wanna get the lay of the land. I want to get the layer.
Jake Johnson
So you're going school? Guidance counselor. Cool guy. I wear a hoodie. I got a beard. What's up, man? I get it too Pat backwards. Are you going bad boy?
Gareth Reynolds
I'm gonna. I'm not going. Good boy, dummy.
Jake Johnson
Damn.
Katie
Damn.
Gareth Reynolds
You're going bad boy. As I coach. I just started. Shit. Well, the dad's gonna be there too.
Jake Johnson
Of course he is.
Gareth Reynolds
Of course he is. I. As soon as I said that, I was like, Imagine if he was. Yeah, absolutely.
Jake Johnson
There's not a chance a nine year old boy should be on a zoom with you talking jokes.
Gareth Reynolds
It's not anything about being anything other than let's just be very secure for everybody.
Jake Johnson
Not for you, just for the boy. No one's worried about you.
Gareth Reynolds
For everybody.
Jake Johnson
What would be when I used to do. Why do you want the dad there? What's your concern? I don't even have a concern for everybody.
Gareth Reynolds
I want the boy to feel as comfortable as possible.
Jake Johnson
No, you want. You are the boy and you want you to feel comfortable. You said forever.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't want anyone stealing from me. When I used to do what I used to, it's like I start giving him jokes from my special because I'm worried it'll Never Air.
Jake Johnson
Williams Jr. But that was my rhythm, so that was my joke. Little guy.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, you're adding too many fucking words. You know, Take a five. When I used to do kids birthday parties, that was the, that was the thing. It was like you like if sometimes you would have like it, sometimes it would just be like you and a birthday kid. And I remember the first time that I was like, all right, I'll go check out your fish tank. And then I was like, no, don't do that. I was like, you don't go alone right away. I was like, no, you get. Parents should always be here.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, man.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, man.
Gareth Reynolds
All right.
Jake Johnson
Should we jump into the show?
Gareth Reynolds
Well, wait, do we have to set it up at all?
Jake Johnson
What's the setup? It's just a Monday.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, everybody, enjoy this.
Jake Johnson
Enjoy the show, everybody.
Gareth Reynolds
Whatever they do.
Jake Johnson
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Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
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Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
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Katie
Hello.
Jake Johnson
How you doing?
Katie
I am wonderful. How are you guys?
Jake Johnson
Yeah, we're doing good. Gareth is a little sick, but I'm feeling good.
Gareth Reynolds
I feel great.
Jake Johnson
Can we get your name, please?
Katie
Yeah, my name's Katie.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Katie, how you doing? Hey, Katie.
Katie
I am great. I could barely sleep last night. I was so excited.
Gareth Reynolds
Really?
Jake Johnson
It's true.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh boy.
Katie
Yeah, I'm also pregnant, so there's pregnancy, insomnia, but I do credit some of it to you guys.
Jake Johnson
Baby number one, two, three, four, nine, ten. Where you at here?
Katie
Katie, number three.
Jake Johnson
How old are one and two? How are we doing here?
Katie
One turned three last Monday and number two is 18 months old.
Jake Johnson
Wow, Katie, you're a crazy person.
Gareth Reynolds
We're moving.
Jake Johnson
You're gonna have three under four.
Katie
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Three under three and a half.
Jake Johnson
You're a wiring woman and I respect the hell out of it. You got boys or girls? What do we got for one and two?
Katie
I got two boys and he's gonna be a girl.
Jake Johnson
Oh, look at you. You got two crazy guys and a young lady. Katie, where are you calling from?
Katie
I'm from North County, San Diego.
Jake Johnson
Beautiful San Diego. There's a great casino right off the five. I used to go to quite out in Oceanside. But this isn't about that. Katie from San Diego, you got three kids coming up. You couldn't sleep last night at about 4am when you were tossing and turning, what were you thinking about?
Katie
I was worried that I was going to start my pitch with okay so. Because I want hot take. Got me, man.
Jake Johnson
Well, so let's start it for sure with okay so. And I'm asking everybody coming up after hearing, hearing this, let's lean into the okay comma so merch. Just because it's a hot take doesn't mean it's wrong. So hot take it. Do what you gotta do, Katie. Okay? So take us away.
Katie
Okay, so I. It feels good. It just feels right.
Jake Johnson
It feels good.
Katie
I'm not on a high school presentation today. I'm talking to a couple of great dudes. I'm gonna be relaxed, you know?
Jake Johnson
That's exactly right. Relax, chill out. I' say have a drink. Have a drink.
Gareth Reynolds
It's fine.
Katie
Well, I, I. Ironically, my question has to do with my three pregnancies and. Well, let's start here. My husband and I moved into our house three and a half years ago.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Katie
And as you know, Mel, I'm on my third pregnancy in this house.
Jake Johnson
It's a fertile house.
Katie
Yes.
Jake Johnson
Especially if you're like, we're not trying. We didn't want kids.
Katie
Yeah. Yeah. So my question is, how do I stop getting pregnant?
Gareth Reynolds
I got an answer. I got eight answers.
Katie
So we live in a pretty geriatric neighborhood, which, for the most part, is great. My next door neighbor on the left, she'll watch my kids when I go to the OB appointments. She'll feed our cats. She's great. Yeah. The other neighbors, they're, you know, very friendly. Say hi. Pretty much to themselves. My issues with the neighbor to the right of me, again, very nice man. He has been into our house two times. Both times uninvited and both times the day I came home from the hospital with my brand new baby.
Gareth Reynolds
What do you mean uninvited?
Jake Johnson
I agree.
Katie
I mean, he showed. Well, the very first one, our parents had been here meeting the new baby. We just got home from the hospital.
Jake Johnson
Oh, he's excited.
Katie
They leave. I'm in the bedroom trying to figure out the pumps, the crying baby, all this stuff. And my husband comes in and says, hey, Donnie and his wife are here to meet the baby.
Jake Johnson
His name is Donnie?
Katie
No, we're calling him Sonny.
Jake Johnson
Sonny, okay. I love that name.
Katie
Sunny and his wife are here to meet the baby. And I said, no. Like, we literally got home two hours ago.
Jake Johnson
I also don't know this whole band. Yeah, yeah.
Katie
Like, we say hi. He hasn't watched. He hasn't helped with our cats or anything.
Jake Johnson
I understand this.
Gareth Reynolds
How old are we calling. How old is sunny?
Jake Johnson
76.
Katie
Probably right around there.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Katie
Probably right around there.
Jake Johnson
Right.
Katie
And my husband, I said, no, but he had brought his wife, who is in poorer health. And so it was a big. And my husband was like, it's a big deal that she came all the way over here. I can't turn him away. I was like, all right, fine. I put some clothes on, I bring out the baby. It felt like Presenting my child to, like, the king and queen, you know? This is so weird. Fast forward 18 months. Our families are here the day we come home from the hospital. They walk out the door, and we got a little window right next to the front door. And I'm sitting there nursing, and I see Sunny walking up the front walkway. And he opens the door, lets himself in. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Katie.
Katie
Heard you had the baby.
Jake Johnson
Katie, give me a quick taste. How does Sunny dress?
Katie
If you catch him in the mornings outside on his front porch, he's in black and red flannel pajamas, full length. And during the rest of the day, it's the high hike, khaki pants, shirt tucked in, belt. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
What's he wearing when he comes over to see the baby?
Katie
Not the jammies.
Jake Johnson
He's coming ready.
Gareth Reynolds
And did he bring his wife with him the last time as well?
Katie
No, her health has gotten worse. She's less mobile. So the second time it was just him.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, but.
Katie
So I asked my husband because I thought about con into the podcast and I didn't want it to be a simple fix. Oh, just tell your husband to say no. So I asked my husband, I said, babe, we got a baby coming in February. What are you gonna do when he comes over? And he said, nothing. I'm gonna open the door. Well, then I gotta call the podcast.
Jake Johnson
Okay, this is interesting. So, Katie, first of all, next time you come on the podcast, sleep before. You did a wonderful job. Yeah, you couldn't crush that anymore. Now let me ask you a question that the audience is gonna think, who cares if this old timer comes in? His wife's slowly leaving him, he's lonely, as, let's be honest, I'm gonna be a Sunny in my 70s. That's a very me move. Yes to hello Not. I'm not gonna babysit or watch the cat. We have no relationship. But the baby's here.
Gareth Reynolds
Any food?
Jake Johnson
I should meet the baby.
Katie
I. I understand. I had a feeling you'd probably ask that. And I. Could I just say, yeah, come in? Yes. But part of this is the deep down Katie thing. Man, my closest friends wouldn't even come over the day I come home from the hospital. Those are the people I want to meet. My baby first. It's wild.
Jake Johnson
You don't want Sunny to be the first person.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I completely get that.
Jake Johnson
I get that too, as well as aren't.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, I don't know anything, but aren't you supposed to be a little wary of germs? Germs, like, very early on, kids can't get sick.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, yeah. It's like two months or something.
Katie
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's part of. I don't remember if he wanted to hold the baby the first time. I know the second time I was feeding, but he still kind of stood there, wanted to see it. And so I pop the baby off and get him out of the COVID.
Jake Johnson
And he held the baby.
Katie
I. I can't remember if he did the first time.
Gareth Reynolds
That's okay. All right.
Jake Johnson
Sonny's a wild man. Okay, so your specific question today is what, Katie?
Katie
My specific question is, come early February, how do I kindly but, you know, succinctly firmly make it so that Sunny isn't one of the first people who meets my brand new baby?
Jake Johnson
Here's.
Katie
He's not of our lives.
Jake Johnson
This is great. This is a perfect type of problem for our show because guess what? It is serious.
Katie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jake Johnson
Old neighbor should not be one of the first people to meet all your kids who's not in your life. That is weird behavior. This world is full of weird behavior.
Katie
Yeah. And to your point, it's a different generation. You get lonely when you're older.
Jake Johnson
That's not your problem.
Katie
Right, right, right. It's my problem now, which is why I'm calling in.
Gareth Reynolds
But it's also a weird precedent has been set. That's why he now feels comfortable doing this. So we have to kind of change.
Jake Johnson
Walks in without.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, he cannot be Kramering in on baby day. But I also think preserving his feelings. Now, let me ask you this. Are we allowed to include your husband in our plotting here, or are we just leaving him? He's too much of a pushover where he's just gonna wilt no matter what he does.
Katie
Yeah, yeah. I think he's too much of a pushover.
Gareth Reynolds
So we're gonna leave him out.
Katie
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. I got some pitches.
Jake Johnson
Please.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, Ready? I'm gonna start sweet here. And what we could do is we could start just put some coffee cake on the porch with some Saran Wrap over it and a sign that says, mom and baby doing great resting. Help yourself to some cake like it's for anyone who's coming over. Like, it's not a sunny specific problem. So it's just kind of a way of saying, hey, thanks for coming by. And you can even put out a little. You know how people, like, get their weddings? They'll have a little book where you can write something kind in there. You could put out a little book and say, please leave your sweet thoughts for mom and Baby in here. Thanks so much. Something like that.
Katie
Hey, Gareth. Garrett. Garrett. Who's baking this cake?
Jake Johnson
Thank you.
Gareth Reynolds
Entamins is it ain't me. And to men's is baking this cake.
Jake Johnson
So, Katie, before we go down these Gareth pitches, here's what we're not going to pitch for a pregnant woman to do for sunny. Extra work. All right? We don't want her to do extra work. She's. She's got two kids. Three and 18 months. This woman's tired. She's got a baby growing. Taking all the nutrients out of her body and stealing it for her little self.
Katie
Talking the life out of me.
Jake Johnson
That little baby, that little girl. I love her. She's selfish. She's taking the mom eats. That little girl goes mine. Little nightmare.
Gareth Reynolds
I was insensitive and I, I. And I thought about you getting an intimate. I still think a baby book on the porch can work.
Katie
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
And a sign that says, I will.
Jake Johnson
Say.
Katie
All jokes aside. That's a good pitch. It's a good pitch because it's a way to let them know, yes, we're good. I guess.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Katie
Right. Slightly more context is the reason he knows that we're home is because when our parents will tell our parents, hey, we're in discharge today. They show up. My dad likes getting those little gold foil balloons spelling out the name of the baby, hanging it right outside our front door.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. And you know what? That invites old guys over.
Gareth Reynolds
It's like.
Katie
I know. I know.
Gareth Reynolds
Smoke coming out of the chimney.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Katie
Yeah. It's a sweet tradition. So I don't want to say, hey, don't do that for baby number three. Because I love coming home and seeing that. For babies one and two.
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
Katie
But that's the. That's how he knows we're home. So I wonder if I could even get my. My parents or my in laws to drop something because they're going to come over and decorate anyway.
Jake Johnson
We can. We can.
Katie
It's not a bad pitch.
Jake Johnson
Here's something I want to think about happening early. Your baby's not coming till February. It's October. November, December, January, February. So we got a little bit of time.
Katie
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Maybe there is a way to write an anonymous note and tape it on Sonny's door.
Gareth Reynolds
What are we saying there?
Jake Johnson
No visitors when the babies come. Afraid.
Katie
How anonymous can that be?
Jake Johnson
From you're right.
Katie
Neighborhood. Who else riding that is writing that note?
Jake Johnson
Look, it was a bad. But what I'm trying to get to is this.
Katie
You like the notes on the door. I get it.
Jake Johnson
Here's what I like. I want him to know no one's mad at you. Get your germy old ass out of here. Because. And I get. He's lonely, he's bored. He's watching his beautiful wife disappear from this rock. What a nightmare. Then when you see new life, how exciting. But Sonny, he ain't part of this family. So we'll come visit you when it's time, but don't visit us. How about this? A note to all neighbors. The baby's coming in February. Planning on going door to door for anybody wants to meet her once we're. Once mom and baby are all settled in.
Katie
Katie, I don't want to go to the door. I don't want to go.
Jake Johnson
I agree.
Gareth Reynolds
You could also just put up a sign that says no visitors that day if you wanted to be. But I got another one here. Here's. This next one is crazy because we are playing with house money because Sunny only comes over. I mean, he's like the baby groundhog. He only comes over when it's time. Yeah, he makes us. What? Why don't we just try to lay the foundation? Because I don't know if you're going for like a cool dozen to kids here, so this might be a problem for the next 10 years. What if when he comes over, which he will, you take a. A doll, one of your kids dolls, you have it in a blanket like a baby, a fake one.
Katie
I got sons. I don't have a kid's doll. I can get one. Keep going, keep going, keep going.
Gareth Reynolds
You get one, it's in the blanket. Sonny comes over, wants to see the baby, you walk up and you dad.
Jake Johnson
Walks up, Mom's asleep.
Gareth Reynolds
If we can. If we can lean on husband, great. If not, you walk over with the fake baby in the cloth and the blanket. He comes over, he wants to take a look, you pull it down.
Jake Johnson
Great idea.
Gareth Reynolds
He sees that it's not a real baby and you wake and go, the real one's sleeping.
Jake Johnson
Stop that. The ending was so insane. The beginning was such a good. Katie, here's what, here's what I think you do.
Gareth Reynolds
I think I agree with this already.
Katie
Wild.
Jake Johnson
You get a fake baby before, right? And guess what? Your 3 year old and your 18 month old get to play with it because you're using the baby to teach them how to be big brothers to the baby.
Katie
That's true. That's true.
Jake Johnson
So they learn how to hold the baby. You get a realistic one and then you get them to learn how to tuck the Baby in and hang with the baby and see how the new baby's not going to take any attention away from them. They're going to be a whole group. But that baby's room is in the living room near the front door. And it's just an area where you could say to the boys, hey, guys, does your little sister need anything? So they start getting ready to be big brothers the day the baby's born. Downstairs, you set up the baby with blankets over everything, only a tiny bit of its face exposed. When he comes over, you have either your parents or your husband go, like, thanks so much for coming, Sunny. It means the world to us. And he goes, I want to see mom. You go, mom's asleep, but the baby's over here. And you got to be really quiet. She's sleeping. And he looks over at the fake baby and goes, just gorgeous. And then you get. Your husband goes, hey, Sonny, you're one of the first people in the world to meet all of our kids. And he goes, it means a lot to me. And then he goes, get your old ass out of here. They give each other a hug. Sonny checks on his list, met another baby. He'll never listen to this podcast. Everybody wins. You tell your husband, don't even tell me when his old ass comes. Nobody's feelings are hurt. Your kids get practice with the baby. He sees the baby. He has no idea the difference.
Gareth Reynolds
You're setting up like a little nativity scene.
Jake Johnson
Basically, yes.
Gareth Reynolds
You just put a little fake baby in the blankets, show it to Sunny. He's not gonna. He's not allowed to hold it.
Jake Johnson
And look, Katie, we get. We know you now. You don't want to do any. Any extra work, but you got to prepare these boys for a little sister because guess what? They'll jump right on her head.
Katie
Yeah. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
These little animals got to learn rules, especially the three year old.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
He burns his little eight. Well, he murders his little brother. He can't do that with a newborn.
Katie
Oh, it's so true. Have you met him?
Gareth Reynolds
That's him.
Katie
That's him.
Jake Johnson
Gareth and I are.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, we are. It's insane. It's just. We are chips. Jake loves chimps because we're monkeys.
Jake Johnson
So what we got to do, Katie, is get a little baby doll, start teaching these boys how to be big brothers. Really nice, easy stuff for them. But what you're really doing is you're setting up a shrine for Sunny to stay out of the bedroom with you and your daughter. Yeah, Katie, what do you think, man?
Katie
You guys think in the best way. I came in here hard. I don't want to come in for the principle of the thing.
Jake Johnson
Right.
Katie
Just the principle of it.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Katie
And now you got me thinking he could come and not meet the baby. I would be laughing in the bedroom.
Jake Johnson
If you filmed it. If you filmed it. You know how funny that would be.
Gareth Reynolds
Katie, here's the thing.
Katie
What part of it is the worst?
Gareth Reynolds
Katie, this problem can be solved the easy way, but why not solve it the fun way? Why not solve it by having Sonny look at a fake baby thinking that he just saw his new neighbor baby? And even, worst case scenario, if he notices that it's a fake baby, let him walk home wondering what the hell just happened. Because the truth is an inappropriate move, by the way.
Jake Johnson
So true, Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
It's an inappropriate move.
Katie
Just commit. Yeah, just commit to the bit. So hard that he's like, after three kids under four, she.
Gareth Reynolds
Worst case for you. Best case for us is that he's like. Like, those people are out of their minds.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. But by the way, Katie, here's another thing you can do. And also, when he comes, try to get your husband to film it just for the fun of it, for the show. But, you know, it could be really great to have happen if you're awake and you're just feeling like this guy at a certain point, move the blanket away so it's very clear. It's a doll, but don't break.
Gareth Reynolds
And, Katie, with your. If you have any hesitation about filming, allow me to. To put that to bed. Because you can film anyone over 70 years old and they have no idea. They don't understand they're being filmed. They don't get it. They hold their phones like that when they text. There's you. So you.
Jake Johnson
I agree.
Gareth Reynolds
He can be filmed for this moment. And. And in the moment, if you're like, I want to just dial this up to 11 just for the show's sake, please do. But if not, just film him looking at a fake doll, thinking it's a baby walking home, feeling fulfilled.
Jake Johnson
One last pitch, Katie. If you don't want to do any of that work, you could just play this on a speaker by your door. Get out of here. No visitors. Get out of here.
Gareth Reynolds
You.
Katie
The Home Alone bit by the door.
Jake Johnson
I literally wrote Home Alone.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Jake Johnson
We could just record a bunch of, get out of here, you filthy animal. The mother's sleeping.
Gareth Reynolds
Or we literally could just have you play the clip from Home Alone on a loop.
Katie
Said, you owe me 10%. Oh, gosh.
Jake Johnson
Keep that change. You Filthy animal.
Katie
I, I love the pitch. I don't think it would stop him. I think he'd be like, hey, you got some weird fan by your front door. Let me come on in.
Jake Johnson
So, Katie, what do you think about doing the baby land the point here? I think fake baby's right.
Gareth Reynolds
I do too.
Katie
This, I love it. I'm thinking a couple things.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Katie
I think in a combination, okay. Have the in laws put the entrance through the door, just put a little note. Mom and baby are doing great. He will probably still come because that's who he is.
Jake Johnson
He'll eat the cake and walk in with it.
Gareth Reynolds
Eat the whole.
Katie
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
I'll tell you what, you know what? You could say, Love that. Put, put the cakes and say, please, no visitors. Mom and baby are sleeping. If he still comes in him with.
Gareth Reynolds
The fake, though, I, I agree.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
I, I, the idea that he eats a bunch of cake and then comes.
Jake Johnson
I also think there's a world where if you have a sign that says no visitors, if he comes in, when he walks in the door, set a booby trap on top of it where water falls on his head.
Gareth Reynolds
So you really want to fully home alone? You want to fully break it and enter it?
Jake Johnson
I was gonna say tar and feathering, but I don't want to hurt him.
Gareth Reynolds
Why don't you heat the do up a bunch so that his hand burns.
Jake Johnson
Break a bunch of Christmas tree decorations.
Gareth Reynolds
Hit him with a paint can, drop.
Katie
An iron story cars all over the floor, slip on them.
Jake Johnson
If he's breaking into your home with a note that says, don't come in. I want a thing to turn honey falls on his head and then throw feathers at him. It's.
Gareth Reynolds
By the way, this call is called breaking an intimate.
Katie
Thank you, G. I can always count on you. I was wondering what could possibly be the name of this call? And there you are showing up all the time.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, Katie, So what do you, what do you think? Katie, what do you, yeah, what do you think you're gonna go with. You have a real, you have a dealer's choice here.
Katie
Oh, I got a plethora. So here's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna have the in laws by the intimates drop her on the porch, put a little note. I don't want to put a no visitor sign. Just, you know, I don't want to do it. So we'll just drop the note. Mom and baby are doing great. Hopefully that triggers something. I'm also going to buy the baby doll because, Jake, to your point My sons are animals.
Jake Johnson
That's right.
Katie
And they gotta learn how to handle little baby. Have it ready that day in the high likelihood that he sees the intamins and goes, oh, great, she's home. I'm gonna go over.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Katie
And if Finn. I got the little baby doll there.
Jake Johnson
This is.
Katie
I'll have my husband hide in the room. This is. I like this play.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. You know, guess what? First of all, Katie, you're hell of a guest.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Great guest.
Katie
Thank you, guys.
Jake Johnson
And I'll tell you another thing. And this is only because it's morning for us and I'm a little bit tired. You got a great mom vibe about you.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
You know what I mean, girl?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, Very.
Jake Johnson
You got fun mom vibes.
Gareth Reynolds
You got fun mom vibes. But you know what else you are is like you're in charge. You're in char.
Jake Johnson
Yes, that's exactly.
Gareth Reynolds
We felt like your kids throughout this call in the best way possible.
Jake Johnson
It's going to be very easy for your kids to be teenagers and go like you. Hey, are you. Are you smoking vapes?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And they're going to go, no, but you're going to smell it all over them. They're going to bust them. There's going to be a whole thing. These kids are going to have a very fun go of it with you.
Katie
Yeah, no, it's a high compliment. Thank you very much.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, you're. Well. Hey, Katie, wait.
Gareth Reynolds
I got to pitch too real quick.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Why don't we. When we know he's coming over, let's have the husband film or someone film him. But why don't we also put a phone in the crib, recording facing upwards so we get the baby pov. And this is just me being greedy. If possible. I love it either way. We just want it to be filmed. But what matters most is that Sunny walks back either A, thinking he's seen a baby or B, thinking, I'm never going over there again.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. And the other thing that I want for sure is this is a really weird request. I would like this community to meet your daughter before Sunny. Maybe.
Katie
I don't even know what that means.
Jake Johnson
I don't even. Sunny's. Sunny's trying to be first. Let's beat. We got thousands of people.
Gareth Reynolds
Can we send your baby around like my vest?
Jake Johnson
We got a guy in Greenland.
Katie
Can we screw you, Sunny. I've had thousands of people meet my.
Jake Johnson
Baby already so late.
Gareth Reynolds
These are.
Jake Johnson
These are thousands.
Katie
There's a guy in Greenland who met my baby before you.
Jake Johnson
So long.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Katie, follow up with us, please, seriously, in this one.
Gareth Reynolds
And good luck.
Katie
I absolutely will. Thank you guys. You made my day.
Gareth Reynolds
Bye.
Jake Johnson
Bye.
Gareth Reynolds
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Katie
Hi.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi. How are you?
Katie
I'm doing good. How are you guys?
Gareth Reynolds
Great, thank you. Welcome to the show. Can we get your name, please?
Katie
Sure. My name's Katie.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi, Katie. And where are you calling from, Katie?
Jake Johnson
Katie?
Katie
I am calling from Phoenix.
Gareth Reynolds
Come from Phoenix. And, Katie, we've kind of been bringing back the questions for the audience. Let me ask you this. Let's say you are. You lose your phone, you don't know where it is. You had it that day. What's the first thing you do in order to try to locate it?
Katie
Honestly, probably not the most efficient answer, but I would just go blindly searching through my house, assuming it's, like, in the refrigerator or something.
Jake Johnson
Okay, you search the house. It's not there. Then what?
Katie
But it's not in my house.
Jake Johnson
You knew you headed it. You were out earlier, but you don't know how to get back to where you were out. You were out at a restaurant somebody took you to.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And you don't even know where it was. You're in a strange city.
Katie
Okay, you know what I would do? What I would do is find a buddy and I would have them call my phone. Phone.
Gareth Reynolds
How are you going to tell them?
Katie
Oh, shoot. Well, I track down maybe a stranger. I'm alone in a hotel. No one else is there.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. We changed it.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And you're tired. You worked 14 hours.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. And you're flying the next day.
Katie
It's like an unsolvable problem.
Jake Johnson
No, it doesn't.
Gareth Reynolds
No, they're not. No, they're not.
Jake Johnson
Katie.
Gareth Reynolds
No. No Katie. That's good enough. We appreciate it. Jake went on quite a mission. All right, Katie. What? Katie from Phoenix. What can we do? What's going on? Going on.
Katie
Okay, so just quick backstory. I got a tattoo of a dog on the back of my arm about a year ago.
Jake Johnson
Same with Gareth.
Katie
And it's like one of those. What was that?
Jake Johnson
Same with Gareth, but the front of his arm.
Katie
Really? Maybe it's. Maybe we're matching.
Gareth Reynolds
Maybe.
Katie
I don't think so, though. So it's like one of those single line tattoos. So it basically looks like the outline of a dog sitting down.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Katie
And I got this specific one because the shop was doing a flash tattoo fundraiser for the animal shelter. And this one looks a lot like my actual dog. So problem is that from a bit of a distance and, like, especially if I'm wearing a shirt that Covers the top of the tattoo, which I have to wear at work, by the way. People keep thinking that my tattoo is a penis.
Jake Johnson
I am.
Gareth Reynolds
I was hoping. I was hoping we'd get to see this tricep. Holy.
Jake Johnson
It looks like a penis.
Gareth Reynolds
And not only does it look like a penis. Wait, Jake, not only does. Can you zoom in again there for us, Nat? Not only does it look like a penis, Jake. I know there's a tail on the dog, which makes it looks like a tongue or something else is coming out.
Jake Johnson
It's like an inchworm is coming out of a penis.
Katie
Yeah, and that's people's follow up question. All the time they're like, I thought it was a penis, but then I was really wondering what was dangling from it.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, this really looks like a penis.
Jake Johnson
Actually, Katie, will you describe exactly what the tattoo looks like for our commuters and our audio listeners who are not near IG or our website?
Katie
Wow. Sure. So it looks like as if the dog was sitting down and you were looking at it from the back. And then it's like, like the outline of the dog. So it's got its tail at the bottom. It's like round and. And bulbous at the bottom, like the dog's hip. And then it comes up, you see the ears and everything. It's like a whole outline.
Jake Johnson
The way they clips when you look at the whole thing, it works. But those are also the things around the head of an uncircumcised penis. Looks just like a penis.
Gareth Reynolds
Katie. It's a real problem. I mean, this is a great problem.
Katie
It's a pickle.
Gareth Reynolds
It is a real pickle ball.
Jake Johnson
I wouldn't call this one a pickle.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. It isn't a pick whopper.
Katie
I would.
Jake Johnson
I would choose another term.
Gareth Reynolds
Boy. So what. What? I. I mean, how long have you known this is going on?
Jake Johnson
And have you come up with a shirt and some.
Gareth Reynolds
Have you come up.
Jake Johnson
Why do you have a penis on your arm?
Gareth Reynolds
Have you come up with any. Have you come up with any resolutions of your own? I mean, I'm excited to pitch on it, but it is. You're right.
Jake Johnson
Instincts are right, Gareth. We need a little. What, Katie, what have you done when you. How. What was the first thing. Who was the first person that let you know and made you go, oh, it looks like a penis when I'm at work. What was that?
Katie
Yeah, so. No, so when I first got home, honestly, when I got the tattoo, I was looking at it, like from my kitchen. There's a mirror kind of far away. And I was like, oh, shit. Shoot, that looks like a penis. I said something to my fiance. Everyone else was like, no, it looks fine. And then the first time someone said something to me, I was visiting a friend for her birthday, and her husband was like, your tattoo looks like a penis.
Jake Johnson
Oh, no. By the way, that person's a good friend.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Katie
Yes, I agree. I agree. And then I got a new job. I'm a nurse. I work at a hospital. I got a new job four months ago. Since starting there, when I wear this work T shirt that covers the top, four different people have said something to me now. So I now cuff my shirt at work so you can see the whole thing. It's slightly better, but not great.
Jake Johnson
Understood. And you don't need to. We have to figure this out.
Katie
Yeah, my dog has. Oh, go ahead.
Jake Johnson
No, you go.
Katie
I was just gonna say my dog has, like, these two spots on his butt. They're like little brown spots. And so, my friend.
Jake Johnson
We're not putting warts on the penis. No.
Gareth Reynolds
We don't want to make it worse.
Jake Johnson
You don't dress up the penis. That's never the right idea.
Gareth Reynolds
No more. No.
Jake Johnson
You don't want an infected penis.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. It is just going to look like a herped penis.
Jake Johnson
Why would a nurse have a herped penis?
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, if any occupation could have it, you could be like, I'm the best at this, but you don't want.
Jake Johnson
To be in a hospital. And then you're like, my nurse has a penis on her arm and it has an infection.
Katie
No. And if six people have already said something to me, like, in my. Since I've had it, there's so many more that have not said something but noticed it.
Jake Johnson
I think this is right.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, I'm going to start. Start.
Katie
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
What's your dog's name?
Katie
His name is Sticks. Like the band or like the rivers, small?
Jake Johnson
Sticks.
Gareth Reynolds
Sticks is not helpful with my sticks.
Katie
S, T, Y, X. He had that name when we adopted him.
Jake Johnson
You want to put Sticks the name.
Gareth Reynolds
Sticks the dog and under it.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Katie
Okay.
Jake Johnson
I don't love it, but I hear you.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I don't love that its name Sticks because it sounds like a way to say penis.
Jake Johnson
Well, his nickname is hilarious.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
So what do you think about a tattoo on a tattoo?
Katie
A tattoo on a tattoo?
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Like, here was my.
Katie
I'm open to all ideas.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so here's what I was thinking. Natalie, can you please put up the photo of the penis? If you take where those hips are, they're Inside those little circle hips. And you draw a line on either side and create a horizon and do a little shading. You could make it seem. If you add a little color, like he's sitting at the park.
Katie
Like, under. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Jake Johnson
So you go from the hips, you do a horizontal line, and then you shade up a little bit, and you color in the dog. So what colors? What color is sticks? What does he look like?
Katie
He's mostly white, and then he has some brown.
Jake Johnson
So I would white and brown with a little bit of, like, a grassy thing he's sitting on. And the horizon is like. Or you do a beach with the ocean. So right now, balls near him. Nope, right now. Because what you're just looking at is a weird drawing. It just looks like a dick. I think you're gonna have to color in and bring out the dog on the art of it so that he's sitting on grass, he's looking at something, and the whole thing could finish right above his ears. I'm not talking about a huge tent, you know?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
And they could do it in an artful way where, like, the colors fade. So you don't need the whole wraparound. You don't need a whole sleeve. I think we just need some color, and we need to change it around.
Gareth Reynolds
You know what really penises the dog's ass is the two little loopties where the tail forms. Because that makes it look.
Jake Johnson
I know it.
Gareth Reynolds
Those are like urethra.
Jake Johnson
Oh, that there. Interesting.
Gareth Reynolds
That makes it look like the meatus, I believe is the medical term. So that is your problem zone. I'm trying to think if you shaded. If there was a way to. Of like, if you kind of drew a line there, does that make it a lot less dickish?
Jake Johnson
I don't know.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know either. It's hard to see. You might want to start here's. Do you have any other animals?
Katie
No, just the dog.
Jake Johnson
I'm not. I wouldn't do another difference, thinking you.
Gareth Reynolds
Could put a cat near it or something. But I think Jake's right. I mean, I don't want to. It. It's really the fact that it's outlined really it up. And it's where. Like you said, it's that one where you kind of do you. The. The. The tattoo needle was on you the entire time, so it was never lifted up. So there's a couple loop Ds that really just get. Make it look like the head and then the. The hole.
Jake Johnson
You know what another thing that you could do. If you didn't want to do my exterior thing, you could. I'll tell you what would change it to me is if it got filled in with color.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, that's kind of what I thought you were going with a little bit as well.
Jake Johnson
I was like, yeah, but I was. But I meant the X. You might be able to do it without the xt, without the landscape, and just have somebody go in and fully make it look like a dog with the exact colors and get somebody who's good, who can make it look like hairs. If penises don't have dog hairs on them.
Gareth Reynolds
If you. If you got. If the looped. If the loops were shaded in and that I think goes. And the tails shaded, I think that goes a long way.
Katie
And the other thing is I am getting married next year, so it's like I'm scared of making it worse for wedding photos.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I agree with this because I assume you're going to be sleeveless in that gown. Am I correct? Correct.
Katie
You are correct.
Jake Johnson
Okay. Jesus Christ, Katie.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean, look, put yourself in a situation. Look, we've got. We've got it there already. It. I agree. I hear you on. But what color is your dog?
Jake Johnson
Here's what I need to see before you ask that question, Gareth, because it is the same question. Can you send Natalie the photo that was the inspiration for the tattoo of the dog?
Katie
Oh, yeah, sure, cuz.
Jake Johnson
Let's see what the actual dog.
Katie
There wasn't, was it? You said it was flash. Yes, well, it wasn't an inspiration.
Jake Johnson
That's true.
Katie
But it does look a lot like my actual dog.
Gareth Reynolds
Now we're saying, so send us. Send us a dog picture.
Katie
Means that the artist already has these drawings done and they just put them on as many people want as want them. So there could be like 10 other people with this exact same tattoo walking around with penises on their arms.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, but it's the place. It's the placement. It's that you. It's that you did it.
Jake Johnson
It.
Gareth Reynolds
It's the placement. It's right there on the tricep. It's not great.
Jake Johnson
So.
Gareth Reynolds
But let's see if we can see.
Jake Johnson
A picture photo of your dog and we could see the colors, you know, and Natalie jumping on this one. You're a tattoo expert.
Katie
I don't think I'm an expert. I would say this one's. And you should just pick something else that's bigger and darker that will go over it.
Jake Johnson
Interesting. This is. That's a nat attack.
Katie
You do that animal, you Like, I.
Gareth Reynolds
Mean, let's say you're in the jungle.
Katie
Yeah. If you're in the jungle, what animal.
Jake Johnson
Do you want to see?
Gareth Reynolds
Make it that one? I think, I think coloring in the dog is going to do. I think that would solve. I think that would solve it.
Jake Johnson
But let's take a.
Gareth Reynolds
But.
Jake Johnson
Go ahead, Katie. Well, we got to see the dog, because imagine a colored in dog, but only the bottom half. It might just look like a strangest.
Gareth Reynolds
Ass dick color the whole dog.
Jake Johnson
Katie, are you sending that dog or are we.
Katie
Yeah, I'm working on it right now.
Jake Johnson
Okay. Because I just want to see it. I think there, because there's tattoo artists, you're in the Phoenix area. I bet we can get somebody who could do photo realistic, because if it clearly looks like the bottom half of a dog and they do a very good job, that's a little bit like that. That drawing to that tattoo is a little bit like Shel Silverstein esque. It's not totally realistic, but it's very art form. Maybe there's a way where we can almost get like a photorealistic interior of a dog. So you go, there's no question. That's the bottom half of an animal.
Katie
Okay, I just sent the picture.
Jake Johnson
Okay, let's see. Oh, yeah, that's gonna work great.
Gareth Reynolds
Actually. This is, I think, maybe very helpful because. Yes, go ahead. Say why.
Jake Johnson
Yo. That's it. So the dog is a white dog. It's kind of like a dirty white.
Gareth Reynolds
This is per.
Jake Johnson
Has on its butt, going into the tail, a huge. Which could only be called brown birthmark.
Gareth Reynolds
The, the brown spots, the cowish brown spots on your dog as well are going to cover up it, Are going to cover up the problem zone because it is.
Jake Johnson
It's so dog. And if they can make that white with a little bit of those gray.
Gareth Reynolds
Like on the spine, you don't even need to. I don't even think you need to do the white part of it. I think your skin is the white part of it. You could just put the brown shading on the head of the do dog and on the butt of the dog.
Jake Johnson
I would do the white shading.
Gareth Reynolds
It's up to you. I, I, whatever you think, but I think you could get away with your skin being the color. So it's not. I think you could just do it with some brown shading on the spots where your dog has it. That's going to cover up the pee.
Jake Johnson
Holes because that will totally cover up that part of it. And it covers up the, the hip part. On the left side, too.
Gareth Reynolds
Too. Yeah.
Katie
Right. Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
So now it's your dog.
Jake Johnson
But Katie, hold on. Do this for us. So if you're going to do it, have them draw it on you first.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Katie
Okay.
Jake Johnson
And then call us again. Take a photo with the drawing on, why don't you?
Gareth Reynolds
What. What you could do is.
Jake Johnson
Why don't. You just have to. You got to do it in phases here.
Gareth Reynolds
Just get a marker. And do. Have your fiance do the shading, the way it looks on the dollar dog for now. Take a picture of that and then let's have a conversation after that. But I think that'll do it.
Jake Johnson
This is going to work. And this. The question becomes, Katie, do we want to do the white, the dirty white, or do we just need the brown birthmark?
Gareth Reynolds
You can do both, but I. Let's start with the brown birthmark because it's the least amount of ink added.
Jake Johnson
And you go exactly where that is because that covers the loop which is creating our. What's the term you use, Gareth?
Gareth Reynolds
Meus.
Jake Johnson
You're going to cover up the meus on the one side and you're going to cover up the left hip, which creates the ring of the penis of the uncircumcised hog as goofball. Right, Doctor? They would call it a Whopper junior.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, let's not do that again.
Jake Johnson
So I think the dog is a big fix, Katie. A big fix. What do you.
Gareth Reynolds
You're lucky with this butt cheek shading.
Katie
I know. Okay. I like that idea. I feel like that's a good place to start and see what it looks like.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Katie
I love it.
Jake Johnson
Katie, I'm gonna just say this to you and I mean it from the bottom of my heart. You called the right place.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Katie
I know, I know. I feel good about this. Thank you.
Jake Johnson
I'm gonna get you out of this.
Gareth Reynolds
It was probably good for you to meet us.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, it was good for you to meet us. We're gonna get this dick off your arm before your wedding.
Gareth Reynolds
Not gonna be a problem.
Katie
Thank you so much.
Jake Johnson
This is what we do.
Gareth Reynolds
Thanks, Katie.
Katie
Thanks, guys.
Gareth Reynolds
Bye. This is what we do is so true.
Jake Johnson
This is the show. You got a penis on your arm. You're getting married. Let's go get you out of this.
Gareth Reynolds
Let's talk. This is the show. Hello. Hi. Hi. How are you?
Jake Johnson
Good.
Katie
How are you guys?
Gareth Reynolds
Good. Welcome back. We know you're a followup. That's all we know know. Who are you? What is happening?
Katie
Yeah, I'm Katie. I called in about the dog tattoo. That looks like a penis.
Gareth Reynolds
Just talking about you.
Jake Johnson
What were you saying?
Gareth Reynolds
I just was. I was explaining like. Like we just said the last call was perfect for. I was like, the perfect encapsulation of an issue for our show is this. And it really looked like a dog, so. Okay, Katie, so you got your dog. Dogs. You got the dog tattoo when the sleeve is down, when you're nursing completely looks like a penis with something coming out of the meatus. What's going on?
Katie
Okay, so you guys wanted me to. You sent me with homework to have my fiance draw some brown spots on the dog that look like my actual dog.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Cool.
Katie
And so I had him do that and then sent them back in to Natalie.
Jake Johnson
Oh, great.
Gareth Reynolds
So we get to see her approving before the tat. Oh, and you got a. Some words have been added above the dog.
Katie
Oh, yeah, He. He had some fun with it. But my dog's name is Stick, so he wrote dicks at the bottom.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I would.
Gareth Reynolds
We're not seeing that one.
Jake Johnson
So we see the one that says bad. It's brown on the ears. He did a good job. And brown. I'm a little worried about this, to be honest.
Gareth Reynolds
I agree. Agree.
Jake Johnson
There's something about it.
Katie
Yeah. So I also sent one from a distance because that was the main issue.
Jake Johnson
That looks like a sick dick.
Gareth Reynolds
You know, honestly, Jake, do you want to know what my new concern is? Looks like it went in.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, looks like.
Katie
Looks like a turd.
Gareth Reynolds
It looks like an. It looks like an analed penis.
Jake Johnson
You went from dick to turd. This ain't it, Katie.
Katie
It looks really good close up, honestly. But you like it. The problem is not resolved close up, but from. Since it's almost worse.
Jake Johnson
Here's the thing. It's. This helps the tattoo a lot, but when you're, as Garis says, which is insane to call being a nurse nursing, because obviously it's not nursing. That's something else. But it looks like you got a turd coming out of your. What? Nursing means you're breastfeeding a baby.
Gareth Reynolds
Dude, you know what? This is just.
Jake Johnson
It does.
Gareth Reynolds
You're not gonna. You're not. And I agree.
Jake Johnson
Hey, homeboy, that's nursing seen.
Gareth Reynolds
And I just want to say thank you to all the first responders. You're the heroes. I'm going to bag some pots.
Jake Johnson
But, Katie, we can't put a turd coming out of your arm.
Gareth Reynolds
It does look like a poop.
Jake Johnson
That's insane.
Gareth Reynolds
It looks like a poop dick.
Jake Johnson
Stop saying that.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I'm just being Very clear with our audience. Jake someone.
Jake Johnson
All right, hold. Let's stay on this pick for a little bit. This is a full body pick where we got the turd dick coming out of the arm. The answer to this is a big no.
Gareth Reynolds
The only thing that I could think of is this was a thought I had for the first round, but just a. The word dog and an arrow pointing to it. No. Or a little puppy, like a. A smaller dog next to that dog. That shows it's dog time on the arm.
Jake Johnson
I don't. I don't love that. Can we see the one where it goes closer to the tat? Okay, Katie, you obviously have G's pitch there. The reason I'm really strong against that is I don't think we want to get, like, a little bit ironic with, like, a dog and an arrow. This is on your body forever, dude.
Gareth Reynolds
It looks like a dick.
Katie
Yeah, looks like my arm.
Jake Johnson
I know.
Katie
Like, if it was on somewhere else, I would not be opposed to the arrow thing because it's kind of fun, funny, but it's on my arm is the problem.
Jake Johnson
Can we do something? Can we try something with you, Katie? And that is.
Katie
Sure.
Jake Johnson
Can we post just this image and can we ask tattoo artists to see what they can do?
Gareth Reynolds
Do you.
Jake Johnson
Do you care if it ends up not being a dog tattoo?
Katie
No, I honestly don't at all. I think my goal is that it looks cool. Like, I don't want a tattoo on my arm, that people are like, wow, that's terrible. My dad's one of those people that's like, you're gon regret it. And I don't want him to be right, so I'm totally for that.
Jake Johnson
And I'm. I'm your dad, so I. Yeah, that's my vibe with it too. Gareth has a green Bay packer tattoo on his arm, and when he becomes an adult man, he's going to regret it.
Gareth Reynolds
Wrong.
Jake Johnson
That happened.
Gareth Reynolds
Wrong. And by the way, Katie, Jake is obviously taking a shot in my direction. He's trying to bury the lead here. I'm very proud of my Packer tattoo. I'm part owner. I make decisions in the front office. But still, let's keep this focused on you.
Jake Johnson
What I'm thinking is, Gareth, if we got, like, a real artist to pitch on it, you know how, like, the tails coming out. But what if they did all around with different things so that it becomes just something else and beautif or something. Flower or something?
Katie
How about this?
Gareth Reynolds
Jake and I don't want to drive our producers crazy. With this pitch. Okay. We could take three submissions from tattoo artists and Shark Tank. What?
Jake Johnson
The holy friendship game.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. What is that.
Jake Johnson
What is that terrible show called? Like, Ink Matt Master.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Yeah, right. Yes, yes. And we get three people to come in. We could give them a. We could say, winner gets something.
Jake Johnson
I love this. Ink Master.
Gareth Reynolds
We. And winner gets something. And we just have three people. Come on. Who know the tattoo. Cover up business pitch. Katie on three options. Katie. Bachelors. It picks a winner. To be clear, this is not. These people wouldn't actually be doing the tattooing themselves. Correct. So they don't have to be local.
Jake Johnson
No, they don't have to be local. Local.
Gareth Reynolds
Hold on. They would.
Jake Johnson
Well, Katie, where are you located again?
Katie
I'm in Phoenix.
Jake Johnson
It would be nice if it's in the Phoenix area.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, let's. My. My thinking was at least in Arizona, maybe my thinking was they just give us the idea, and then we go.
Jake Johnson
Take that to another tattoo artist.
Katie
I like that. It's a little weird to take an idea sketched by another artist to it.
Gareth Reynolds
Not even another artist.
Jake Johnson
A question for you, Katie. How far would you be willing to travel for a tat?
Katie
I mean, I'm down to travel.
Jake Johnson
Right.
Katie
Like, within reason. I feel like I don't want to go to, like, Alaska, but, you know, I'm willing to travel within reason. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
All right.
Jake Johnson
You know, we. We have a fan in Greenland, but you're not going there.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, we don't. We can't even locate this person. This person. Just listening. This person is ghosting us. It's very bizarre.
Jake Johnson
I'm obsessed.
Gareth Reynolds
As you should be.
Katie
Well, I mean, I like driving. Distance to California U.
Jake Johnson
Get on jet suite X, one of the best airlines on planet Earth.
Gareth Reynolds
West coast pitches, we get three people. We could, like, you're saying we could post it on Instagram. This is great. And we just have three people.
Katie
I love this regionally.
Gareth Reynolds
And then you come back, and then Katie films it. She can film the experience on the phone. You can get that. Pop that on Patreon. And then she could tell us what's going on.
Jake Johnson
Katie, are you down? I love that. The first annual Ink Masters.
Katie
Yes. I'm so excited.
Jake Johnson
Let's talk for a second title. Is Ink Masters wrong?
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Jake Johnson
What if we called it Bar Rescue? What if we called it the Prophet?
Gareth Reynolds
These are. These shows exist, and they're great shows.
Jake Johnson
How about Dancing with the Stars now?
Gareth Reynolds
I don't understand.
Jake Johnson
Understand. Different strokes.
Gareth Reynolds
What?
Jake Johnson
Mr. Belvedere.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Jake Johnson
Small wonder.
Gareth Reynolds
Now we are the same age. Wings.
Jake Johnson
Wings. So Gareth, what should the title of the show be? We both know you're better at this than me. How about the pictures? Like Mr. Belvedere, which is dog tattoo.
Gareth Reynolds
And we spell two twins. Wo.
Jake Johnson
Oh, Katie, your thoughts?
Katie
There it is. I like that a lot. I was over here trying to think of puns because I'm a big pun fan.
Jake Johnson
And that is so you love when Gareth throws out the puns, huh?
Gareth Reynolds
You better buckle up for this dentist call.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Natalie, what do you think about tattoo?
Katie
Like, take two?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
Jake Johnson
That's for Natalie. That's a 10 out of 10.
Gareth Reynolds
That is. That is. That is. That is Natalie's five star rating. If.
Jake Johnson
If Natalie goes. Goes unenthusiastically. That's fine. You've won.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Cuz normally she'd go. It's really stupid.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, she'll go, don't do that. Yeah, that to her right now. She's going, wow, is he good.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah, No, I feel it.
Jake Johnson
Hey, Natalie, are you.
Gareth Reynolds
I feel the praise.
Jake Johnson
Question. Are you Eve Johnson?
Katie
Am I who?
Gareth Reynolds
My mom.
Jake Johnson
Is it 1986 and I don't.
Katie
I don't know if we would have survived if I was your mom.
Jake Johnson
Look, Mommy, I'll make you laugh. Wonder.
Gareth Reynolds
That's the Small Wonder reboot I want to see.
Jake Johnson
Hey, mom, look at what I can do with my stomach. Hey, mom, watch. See this chicken? Watch how I eat it with no hands.
Katie
Busy.
Jake Johnson
Hey, mom, watch when I pull both my ears the other direction.
Gareth Reynolds
Ow. Ow.
Jake Johnson
It really hurts.
Katie
I have two boys already. I don't need another boy.
Jake Johnson
Hey, watch this. When I run into. I'm a. I'm a man. I'm 47.
Katie
Katie, thanks for the call.
Jake Johnson
Thanks, Katie.
Katie
Hey, guys, my name is Kelsey. I just finished the follow up with Popcorn King, and I can hear the.
Gareth Reynolds
Wheels turning on the kidney donation idea.
Katie
And I think the podcast has even.
Gareth Reynolds
More potential than just one person.
Katie
Many years ago, there was a Grey's Anatomy episode. I can't remember the exact specifics, but. But essentially the one person who needed an organ, their people didn't have the.
Gareth Reynolds
Right blood type or whatever, so they expanded it out. And so essentially someone else needed a lung transplant.
Katie
And so the person who needed the.
Gareth Reynolds
Kidney, their partner donated the lung to the other person, and the other person.
Katie
Donated the kidney to them, but they widened that. So circle out to almost like eight people. So all of these different donors donated to a stranger, but in doing so, their person got what they needed. And so I think my imagination is telling me that the community is going to want to help more than just one person. I think you're going to get an overwhelming response. And I also think that there might be more people who listen who need help.
Gareth Reynolds
And so I think this can be.
Katie
Even bigger than you're imagining. Just a thumb.
Jake Johnson
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Hosts: Jake Johnson & Gareth Reynolds
Release Date: November 24, 2025
In this lively episode of We're Here to Help, hosts Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds tackle two wildly memorable listener dilemmas: one involving boundary-challenged neighbors who crash baby homecomings, and another featuring a well-intended dog tattoo that looks, unfortunately, like male anatomy. While not fully qualified, the hosts lace their advice with genuine care, plenty of laughter, and outrageous brainstorming. Across both calls (broken up by banter and wild pitches), recurring themes include community, boundaries, creative solutions, and—above all—the absurdities of everyday life.
[03:47–08:11]
[08:06–12:02]
[16:17–42:18]
Caller: Katie from San Diego
Issue: Geriatric neighbor “Sunny” shows up uninvited each time Katie brings a newborn home, making himself among the first to meet her baby—even ahead of close friends.
Gareth’s “Coffee Cake on the Porch” idea:
Katie reveals her dad’s balloon-naming tradition tips Sunny off (28:10).
The Decoy Baby Plan:
Escalating to Comedy:
[45:01–71:34]
Caller: Katie from Phoenix
Issue: A flash-tattoo fundraiser dog outline on her upper arm looks unmistakably like a penis—especially when part is covered by her work T-shirt.
Add the Dog’s Name (“Styx”): Not favored, as “Styx” itself sounds ambiguous (51:32).
Tattoo on a Tattoo:
Focus on Realism:
Community Input:
Test-Run Results Reveal a New Dilemma:
Jake and Gareth maintain their trademark blend of warmth, mischief, and sincerity—dropping heartfelt advice in the middle of wild tangents and comedic bits. They champion community spirit (whether with organ donors or tattoo artists), creative boundaries, and the value of rolling with life’s weirdest (and most embarrassing) dilemmas. And, as always, they invite listeners to both participate and laugh at the unpredictable ride.
For follow-ups and to participate in “Tat-Two,” listeners are encouraged to submit cover-up designs!
“We’re gonna get this dick off your arm before your wedding.” – Jake (61:13)
“This is the show. You got a penis on your arm, you’re getting married—let’s go get you out of this.” – Gareth (61:27)