259: Crochet Court & Very Noise Very Loud

Summary

Podcast Summary: "We're Here to Help" – Episode 259: Crochet Court & Very Noise Very Loud

Hosts: Jake Johnson & Gareth Reynolds
Release Date: February 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this fun, chaotic, and advice-packed episode, Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds tackle their usual array of delightfully ridiculous and endearingly odd listener dilemmas. The show's spirit is classic: the hosts don’t claim expertise, but approach each "case" with genuine curiosity, humor, and support—like your "tipsy uncle at a family gathering."
This week, listeners are treated to a double-feature:

• Sarah’s awkward crochet commitment—which the guys escalate into a mock legal battle ("Crochet Court")
• Murphy’s quest to reclaim her apartment’s living room from a stubborn couch-sleeping roommate, with noise and creative sabotage as solutions Plus, there’s a quick tattoo follow-up featuring an unfortunate "dog-dick" tattoo and a collaborative approach with listener artists.

The episode brims with personal anecdotes, playful teasing, and over-the-top advice, all delivered in the friendly and slightly self-deprecating banter fans love.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Opening Bits & Banter

• Vasectomy Filming Plea (00:00–01:31):
  • A comedic plea to vasectomy doctors to let Gareth get his vasectomy filmed for content.
  • "Nobody wants a bunch of little Gareths running around when Gareth himself doesn’t want that." – Jake [00:24]
• Valentine’s Day & Christmas Cards Rant (02:00–04:55):
  • Both hosts openly mock the forced sentiment of Valentine’s Day.
  • Disdain for family Christmas cards in the modern era—especially the elaborate "newsletter" backings.

“Christmas cards are from the era of no social media ... now we’re constantly sharing your family, your life ... this is not worth a tree.” – Jake [02:55]

• Chimpanzee Adoption Bit (05:15–05:55):
  • Jake and Gareth riff about adopting chimpanzees—a running gag involving "Wheel of Fortune" and various celebrity cameos.
• Stories About Fist Fights & Getting Older (06:15–09:52):
  • Memories of bar fights in Alaska, being sucker punched ("noodle legs"), and how age changes your approach to fighting and embarrassment.
  • “There’s an age where somebody gets hit and the rest of the men go like, let’s stop pretending to be tough guys.” – Jake [06:59]

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Advice Segment 1: Crochet Court

Caller: Sarah from Ottawa, Ontario
(15:36–44:22)

Situation:

• Sarah promised her best friend an extra-large, weighted, crocheted elephant. She quickly realized the project is much bigger (and more expensive) than anticipated (approx. $300 in costs, 5–6 hours of work so far).
• She wants advice: How does she ask her friend to contribute, or should she back out altogether?

Key Moments:

• Jake and Gareth delight in the Canadian politeness of Sarah’s plight and her accent.
• Discussion about the cost, effort, and etiquette of handmade gifts gone too far.

“This feels like such a Canadian problem—‘I overpromised a crochet.'” – Gareth [19:32]

Proposed Solution:

• The hosts devise "Crochet Court":
  • Sarah’s friend is invited for a mock trial-style negotiation, mediated on-air by the Hon. Judge Steve Berg.
  • Roleplay: Jake and Gareth become opposing counsels.
  • They script out a lighthearted, slightly awkward text with Sarah inviting her friend to participate.
  • In a rapid-fire three-minute call, the friend reveals she did offer to pay for materials, but assumed the cost would be $100 or less.
  • Both sides agree off-air to limit the elephant’s size/cost and reconvene for the full “trial” in a future episode.

Notable Quotes:

• “Should we do something totally different and confront her on air and just have it out and see what happens?” – Jake [24:20]
• “I could see their argument here ... I’ve got to believe it, I’m not a real lawyer.” – Jake [30:36]
• “You’ve got to kind of reset him and that’s the way to do it—you’re a puzzle person now.” – Gareth [70:37]

Resolution:

• Plan for a live “Crochet Court” to settle the matter with laughter, audience input, and no hard feelings.
• Sarah is counseled to either scale down the project or split costs, aiming for fairness and preserved friendship.
• Ongoing: listeners are promised an update.

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Advice Segment 2: Couch Martyrdom – Reclaim Your Living Room

Caller: Murphy from Queens, NY
(48:53–70:53)

Situation:

• Murphy’s roommate (“Marty”) insists on sleeping on the communal couch 3–6 nights a week, despite having the largest bedroom with a balcony and ensuite. The living room is in constant use, the couch is partially broken, and access for others is awkward.

Key Moments & Solutions:

• The hosts analyze Murphy’s hand-drawn apartment layout for tactical insights.
• Marty’s couch sleeping is deemed a tyrannical breach of roommate etiquette, especially since it disrupts Murphy’s ability to use the space without awkwardness or confrontation.

Advice/Pitches:

• Direct Confrontation: Already tried, didn’t work.
• “Smoke Him Out”: Make the living room inhospitable by being loudly active:
  • Take up noisy, well-lit hobbies late at night (e.g., puzzles).
  • Watch TV (feigning a “broken” personal set) and cook meals at odd hours.
  • “If you just make his life super loud and uncomfortable, he’ll go to his room. This is not a room for sleeping.” – Jake [61:15, paraphrased]
• Amp Up the Sabotage (mostly jokes):
  • Ideas range from petty (covering couch with popcorn, fake pee, leaving “used condoms”) to theatrical.
  • Ultimately, practical advice is favored.
• Recruit Allies: Team up with 3rd roommate Nicole to create a united front.

Resolution:

• Murphy commits to the “puzzle blockade” method and promises a photo update.

“You do this for a month, it will work ... if you don’t do it, it won’t work.” – Jake [70:00]

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Advice Segment 3: Tattoo Cover-Up Follow-Up

Caller: Katie from Phoenix
(71:16–82:46)

Situation:

• Returning caller Katie’s dog tattoo looks uncannily phallic, especially when partially covered by her work shirt. She’s a nurse, so this is a recurring social blunder.

Key Moments:

• Listener Brittany, a Kansas tattoo artist, joins to discuss possible fixes.
  • “I call it the dick jelly ... my sponsor always said: make sure when you’re designing something, you don’t see any dicks or vaginas.” – Brittany [76:23]
• Options include:
  • Not a total cover up—creative shading or colored ink to reframe the dog’s shape.
  • Audience is promised a poll to help pick the new design.

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Vasectomy Filming Plea: 00:00–01:31
• Card & Fall Banter: 02:00–14:09
• Start of Crochet Court / Sarah's Call: 15:36–44:22
  • Sarah’s Dilemma: 15:36–24:10
  • Texting the friend & live call: 24:10–44:20
• Murphy’s Roommate Problem: 48:53–70:53
• Tattoo Cover-Up Follow Up: 71:16–82:46

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Memorable Quotes

• On Roommate Space:
  • “The reason you have roommates in a room is you can go in your room and close the door and nobody can go in. In a shared space is a shared space.” – Jake [57:22]
• On Escalating Crochet Commitment:
  • “This is a great question. Okay, so we do have a picture of how far she got. ... Did you volunteer it? Because you did volunteer it, so it’s a little bit tricky.” – Jake [18:18]
• On the Host Dynamic:
  • “We're both shitty ... when we're gray hairs, and just full on gray hair, and we're still the same guys.” – Jake, on aging and friendship [10:18]

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Overall Tone & Vibe

The hosts keep things relentlessly light-hearted, deeply empathetic, unselfconsciously silly, and always weirdly practical. Whether they’re riffing on listener emails or mining personal stories of embarrassment, the focus is always on finding a laugh—and sometimes, a real solution.
The meta “courtroom” improvisation is a highlight, showing the duo at their most playful, supportive, and creative.

For Newcomers:
This episode is a stellar taste of the show’s absurdity, warmth, and odd-ball support. Even listeners who don’t know the show will be able to follow, laugh, and maybe take away a useful tip—or at least, a sense that everyone’s weird dilemmas are valid.

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Next Steps & Audience Involvement

• Crochet Court will be continued in a future episode, with Jake and Gareth roleplaying as legal counsel for each friend.
• Listeners are invited to share their opinion (and vote) on Katie’s new tattoo design once Brittany sends in the options.

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To Submit Your Own Dilemma:
Email [e-mail]

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Support & Bonus Content:
Full video episodes on Patreon: patreon.com/heretohelppod

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Transcript

[A]

Well, good afternoon. This is your little friend, Stephen Berg, and this is a message going out to all you fantastically brilliant vasectomy doctors. I have a little proposal for you all. My wonderful friend and brother, Gareth Reynolds is looking to get a vasectomy done because he is making the choice to not bring children into this world. And you know what?

[B]

I respect that opinion.

[A]

Nobody wants a bunch of little garrets running around. Boy, try saying Gareth. Try pluralizing Gareth with a lisp. That's not easy. Nobody wants a bunch of little garrets running around when Gareth himself doesn't want that. So, doctors out there, what we are looking for, what we are wanting, if possible, is for you to give our friend Gareth a vasectomy. Now. We'll pay for it.

[B]

He's got cobra.

[A]

He's got great insurance. That's not the issue. Here comes the little angle we're taking. We would like to document this on a little thing called videotape.

[B]

This is a plea.

[A]

This is a call to all vasectomy.

[B]

Doctors in the lower 48 in the United States.

[A]

Please, oh, please, let our little friend, Gareth Reynolds get a vasectomy and let us videotape it. We're talking to Hi8. You know, like a gritty, you know, it'll look good, it'll be classy, it'll be artsy. You will come off looking like an absolute hero. That's a Burgundy. Thank you. Enjoy this message and enjoy this episode. Bye. Bye.

[C]

This is a Headgum podcast.

[B]

Husband of the year. Jake Johnson.

[A]

We are back. I simply asked when was Valentine's Day?

[B]

So what's the deal? You don't, you don't do anything.

[A]

What do you think of Valentine's Day?

[B]

Stupid. I think I, I really find most of them stupid.

[A]

Same.

[B]

I just don't care. I, I, I. This is what I. This sounds defensive, but I'm like, look, I take, I'm nice. I try to be good and giving this one isolated day.

[A]

What do you think of Christmas cards?

[B]

Family ones?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do not get me. It sounds like.

[A]

Get you started.

[B]

Look, I feel bad for the amount of time in between opening to recycle bin. But, I mean, we are talking.

[A]

It's fast.

[B]

One second.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because to me, Christmas cards are the era of no social media. Like, you get your one, you'd get your one, and you go, oh, my God, look, you know, he's, he's got, like a little mustache now. He's becoming a man. Whatever.

[A]

Who are you talking about in that example?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Just Some boy is becoming a man. Yeah.

[B]

Guy. When you see the little. The little chill, you know, like, lipstable.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

But. But if with social media, you're, for the most part, constantly sharing your family, your life and everything, it's. This is not worth a treat.

[A]

What do you make of the funny family Christmas cards?

[B]

A little. A little more into it than the traditional. What about you?

[A]

You.

[B]

You weigh in a little bit here. What are you on the family one? Because I'm gonna guess that you get a shitload of those.

[A]

I have. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. See, I get, like, four.

[A]

I think it's more. Yeah. I don't get a ton.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because we don't. We don't send them, so we don't make Christmas cards. Yeah. And I think those who make them, I think it's like being, you know, it's like if you have, like, a VW bus, you're in that community where when you see each other, you guys wave at lights.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if you've ever been in someone's, like, special car or like, a C on, and they'll see another sound, and they'll be like, hong Kong. And I'm like, what are you doing? They're like, it's a thing.

[B]

Have you ever heard someone when they talk, they're like, we wave to each other. I'm like, you are loser car friends.

[A]

I kind of agree, man.

[B]

It's dumb.

[A]

I'm not into it.

[B]

No.

[A]

But we don't make cards, so I will say I appreciate a funny one.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But I do also have questions such as, why you do this.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And who, apart from your extended family, is this stuff for? Well, that's in the back. There's a whole written thing of, like, oh, Madeline struggled with soccer but loved softball. I'm like, don't care.

[B]

Well, now we're getting into the family newsletter, which is.

[A]

Which is on the back. But that's on the back of cards.

[B]

No, sometimes those are emails. Sometimes people email those once every six weeks, and it's psychotic.

[A]

I have an idea.

[B]

Go.

[A]

What if we created. Oh, we could do this with the chimpanzees.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Here's what. Okay, so it's already great now if.

[B]

Someone was sending me pictures of chips, but yes.

[A]

Here's what we're going to do. Let's start doing this. So we have not moved forward at all with the adopting the chimpanzees. There's been no word from Wheel of Fortune. Lamor said, yeah, I'll do it if you do it. I think Hannah Simone was busy, so they're looking for a third. We'll see if it happens. I think they want somebody who was. Yeah, I hear you. Have you? I think they want Kyle from the morning after show.

[B]

Jake, I'll drive to your home right now and fight you in your gorilla yard.

[A]

And you'll win, and you'll win. The anger you'll have, you'll win. And you'll realize you'll be like this. Wow, he's soft. Wow.

[B]

I mean, I took him out way too fast.

[A]

I. I feel bad. He fell before I hit him.

[B]

I was like, punching a pizza.

[A]

That's sad. It's punching pizza dough. If you're in a bar fight and the other guy, after hitting you, goes, you. Okay?

[B]

Well, if you.

[A]

I mean, you shouldn't feel like that, brother.

[B]

I've seen, you know, there's nothing worse than when you watch a fight and, like, someone, like, stops because he feels bad. Like, the guy winnings, like, this is not okay.

[A]

When was the last fist fight you saw in person? Just random fist fight, actual fight?

[B]

It's been a while. I mean, it was when. It was when my buddies and I would, you know, you'd see it happen in your groups, but I saw a friend of mine get absolutely rocked.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yes. So it was. It was a.

[A]

At the end of an ear kind of fight.

[B]

That's exactly what I was going to say. It was like, it. You know, it was like Muhammad Ali's last fight where you're like, oh, this shouldn't be happened. And he. He knew. He knew.

[A]

There's an age where somebody gets hit and the rest of the men go like, let's stop pretending to be tough guys.

[B]

It's like falling, like, when falling is not funny. And you're like, oh, are you okay? When you get to that age where you're like, oh.

[A]

We gotta say the beauty of having kids is falling is funny again.

[B]

It's just.

[A]

But my kids will laugh in a way if. If I fall or drop something. The explosion of laughter that comes out of them, it infects me, too. And I can't help it. I'll be like. But it is the funniest thing in.

[B]

The world now in 30 years. 20 years, Jake, you fall, they're not gonna laugh.

[A]

It's. Well, your death.

[B]

Yeah, it's over.

[A]

I'll tell you where I saw a lot of fist fights. Again, you know the answer, if you think about it.

[B]

Where you saw a lot of fistfights?

[A]

Judo, no. Jiu jitsu, Alaska.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah. Where Just be dry. So there's. It's never darkness, dude. Outside of bars, dudes in Alaska are throwing down like it's the 1940s.

[B]

It's. It's just too different. It doesn't. It's 25 years ago there always.

[A]

It's. I would be driving home and, you know, we're doing a lot of nights, so I'd be driving home, it looked like it was noon, and I'd be like, there's like eight people standing around a circle, and I'd be like, ah, two white guys in plaid shirts just thumping each other in the head. And I'd be like, 30 miles an hour. Like, that's a normal sight here. Just two guys clubbing each other with closed fists. And the kind of fights where neither guy's that athletic, but they're both kind of fat, strong. Yeah. You're like, those haymakers are gonna hurt, but it's not a lot of punches per minute.

[B]

Well, then it comes down to the fall. How do you they fall?

[A]

The fall is what ends fighting.

[B]

The fall is where it's like, who back? Let God decide who lands on top is gonna win.

[A]

The saddest is when there was, like, a fight and somebody hits the back of the head way too hard, and you go like, that might now be manslaughter. I got that once back of it.

[B]

Yeah, I got. I. I got. I was walking away from. I mean, it was drunk in Boston. I was walking away and some guy went back of the head. Oh, that's beyond sucker.

[A]

Yeah, I got sucker punched in high school one so bad that I flew up in the air and landed on the ground and stood up thinking I had to fight this guy. And my legs were overcooked noodles. And so I was pretending to hold face, but I could barely stand. I was like, that was bullshit, man. You didn't even give me a chance. It was bullshit. And then it got broke. All I thought was like, thank God.

[B]

Noodle legs. See, I never, I've never gotten rocked that hard.

[A]

Yeah, noodle legs are the worst.

[B]

Oh, cuz.

[A]

You're like, mentally, I got to stand up. Here we go. And your legs are like. I think you cooked me for too long.

[B]

Did you fight a lot? I mean, I, I, I, I could. I'd say three times. I was involved in, like, something.

[A]

I was always a loud talker.

[B]

Y. Nobody's keep. I don't know why there's a pa. Are you waiting for people to re. We don't know.

[A]

I'm waiting for you.

[B]

No, I Mean, I was, I wasn't. I was, I was like, shitty. Of course. Yes.

[A]

We were both shitty. Same. You know, it's gonna be gross when we're gray hairs and just full on gray hair and we're still the same guys.

[C]

See this?

[A]

You know, you see those old men and you see them, they're playing bocce ball and there's two guys and they're both just. And you're like, sometimes it's great. Sometimes it's great when you walk past them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not great when you're stuck with them and you're like, would you two shut up? And one of the gu. Going like you threw it to the left. Don't go to the left because the left is crooked. And you go like g. Just. Irv, shut up.

[B]

You're so Irv. All right, let's.

[A]

Let's enjoy this show, everybody. Thank you for sticking with us and listening. We got a fun one.

[B]

A fun one. And. And I've. I've started to. I'm starting my campaign to find the doctor who will perform the vasectomy.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And we're looking for someone who will give us a little extra access so we can film some stuff. So if you are associated with in the Los Angeles, California area at this point, I'll drive eight hours to get this thing.

[A]

Attaboy.

[B]

But go to helpfulpod gmail.com and maybe subject it vasectomy or something. We're just looking for some leads and now listen to a podcast of advice.

[A]

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[A]

Hello.

[C]

Hello.

[A]

How are you?

[C]

I'm great. How are you doing?

[A]

Great. Can we get your name, please?

[C]

Yeah, my name is Sarah. Sarah, 26. I'm from Ottawa, Ontario.

[A]

Ooh, Ottawa, Ontario. Sarah, 26, tell us a little bit about yourself that we don't know. It could be anything. Something that you could have on a dating profile, a friend site, just something that goes. If you were on Love Connections, what would Chuck Worley say about you in one line?

[C]

Oh, my goodness. I am a horse loving, coffee drinking, crafting girl.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Great.

[A]

And then, Sarah, horse loving, crafting coffee girl, what's your worst trait?

[B]

I lie about horses.

[A]

I don't like coffee, and I can't craft.

[B]

I'm a pathological liar.

[A]

So we've got Sarah, 26. She's a horse loving, crafting, coffee girl who is a pathological liar.

[B]

I hate horses.

[A]

What is your worst trait?

[C]

I. Oh, you're putting me on the spot here.

[A]

I know. We're just having fun.

[C]

No, I know. I get really confident about direction and I turn off the Google Maps and then I get lost.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Great. Worst trait.

[A]

You have killed your character setup in a way. But I don't know if I'll ever ask that again because that is a nearly perfect character setup. All right, Sarah, what can we do for you today?

[C]

Great. Thank you so much for taking my call. I have actually promised my best friend that I would crochet her a extra large elephant and I'll buy it. I do do this for friends, Jake.

[A]

Keep going, Sarah.

[C]

I can make you a chimp, by the way.

[A]

Oh, my God. Sarah, stop.

[B]

Sarah.

[A]

If you make it a sweatshirt, I'll wear it. Keep going. Steamrolling.

[C]

It's very expensive. I have you. I usually do these projects for my friends and family, and they're small, but this is taking a lot of time and a lot of money. And I'm either like, how do I get out of it? Or how do I ask her for money?

[A]

This is a great question. Okay, so we do have a picture.

[B]

Of how far she got.

[A]

Okay. But before we see the photo, Jesse, because this is a great setup, Sarah. So she asked you for the element or you volunteered it? It's very important.

[C]

Garden. I crocheted a dinosaur for my partner's best friend's baby.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And she was about to steal it, and she said that I needed to make her one as well. And I said, I can do you even better. And I can make it extra large. And it can be like a weighted elephant, you know, like weighted blankets.

[A]

I love a weighted blanket.

[B]

Do you?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I'm trying to do that with an elephant stuff.

[A]

You would love it, Gareth.

[B]

I don't. I've had it. I. I was like, it's weird. I thought I'd like it too.

[A]

I thought you would like it.

[B]

No.

[A]

So, all right, so Sarah, here's the problem with it, and I'm just gonna be honest. We're gonna get you out of this. But this is where this one gets sticky. You volunteered.

[C]

I know.

[A]

She did something funny and went like, I'm stealing it. And you said, I'll do you better. I'll make you one. That's enormous and weighted. So now to go like this, you owe me eighteen hundred dollars. You'll go like, pass.

[B]

This feels like such a Canadian problem too. This is like such a. Like I over promised a crochet.

[A]

Agreed, by the way.

[B]

Okay, so do we want to see it, Jake? Do we want to see where we're at with this?

[A]

Yeah, but Sarah, is that before we see it? Is that everything that we need to know? Because you did volunteer it, so it's a little bit tricky. Yeah. And then has there been any new info?

[C]

No, she knows that I'm. I have started it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's cost around probably $70. And once you see the picture, it will make it a little bit more like I haven't gone very far and.

[A]

I'm like, oh, at 70. And what is the $70 material?

[C]

Yeah, just the material.

[A]

Okay. And how much do you think it's going to cost to finish the whole thing?

[C]

I am thinking at least 300.

[B]

And how much time does it take?

[C]

From what I have so far, it's been about five, six hours of work.

[A]

Okay. Okay, so what are we looking at here?

[C]

Yeah, this is. This is the.

[A]

I just see. I just see what it looks like on the top of a toilet. Seat. And then 70s house they would put on where. Remember, they used to do, like, furry toilets, by the way, which was the most disgusting thing ever.

[B]

I want it back. I like. I want to.

[A]

How about carpeted bathroom floors?

[B]

Carpeted bathroom. But. But remember when you'd have your toilet cover match your, like, little toilet? It was all like. Yes, Was like, this is where the piss is.

[A]

Yeah, but just. Ew. Okay, so all I see is basically what looks like.

[B]

You're exactly right with your first description. I mean, it is. It looks like a gray. It looks like gray bathroom carpeting or what you would put on the toilet seat.

[A]

Yeah, I. I don't know what to make of it, Sarah, so please take over.

[C]

I. Well, it's the start of the. Of the body of the elephant, so that's probably a third or about a half of what the body will be. So picture that times two. Like, in a circle. And then I'll stuff it. And then it will look like a big sphere almost.

[A]

Okay. And then what is it gonna be in the end? It's like a little. She just throws it over her shoulders.

[C]

No, no, it will be like a big stuffed animal.

[B]

Okay. Like an elephant stuffed animal that you're making her. Yeah, she can sleep.

[C]

It might be hard to see from the photo, but it is. It. It's almost like it. It's. It's three. Like, I can put stuff into it.

[A]

I understand.

[B]

Oh, gotcha.

[A]

I get it.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. And what are you gonna stuff in the middle of it? Like, what you would put in a. Be.

[C]

More like heavy stuffing. Like stuffing you'd put into a stuffed animal. But then also, I cut up Walmart bags.

[A]

That's cool.

[C]

Or like, reusable bags to recycle in it. And it makes it really heavy.

[A]

And is the Ottawa accent similar to the Chicago accent? Because I'm hearing a little bit of Jewel, Asco, Walmart bag. A little bit. A little bit of an accent I'm hearing. I feel like I'm talking to an aunt.

[C]

Oh, wonderful. Well, I've never been told that before. That's cool.

[B]

The O's.

[A]

Yeah, it's the O's, but it's mixed with Canada. Yeah. So, Sarah, okay, so essentially what your question is then is how is it simply, how do I get her to pay me 300 bucks for this?

[C]

I.

[A]

Thank you for the deep breath. Yes. Thank you for the sigh of. This is complicated.

[B]

Exhausting me.

[A]

Thank you for the sigh I've heard. My worst trait is everybody does that sigh after being around me long enough.

[B]

That'S when Jake knows he has to go. All right, I should get going.

[C]

I just want to make sure I'm asking the right question. I think it, like, do you think maybe. What's your opinion? Do you think I should, like, backtrack and try to figure something else out? Or. Or maybe. Yeah, maybe it's just. How do I get her to pay me?

[A]

Okay, well, Sarah, but I need you to be a little less old school Canadian because that was. Okay. You're now listening to us give our opinion. Too soon? What is. We're here to help you. What is the question you want help with?

[C]

Yes. How do I ask her in a nice way to give me some money to help her? To help her get this.

[A]

Totally fair, Sarah. Totally fair.

[B]

How good a friend is she, Sarah?

[C]

She's my bestest friend of. Of all time.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Confront her on air.

[C]

Pardon?

[A]

Should we do something totally different and confront her on air and just have it out and see what happens? If she's your best friend, that means this is not going to affect the relationship afterwards. She's going to go, sarah, you really embarrassed me.

[B]

What Jake's offering is that we sort of.

[A]

Dirty work.

[B]

We do the dirty work.

[A]

You give us her information, we talk to her without you. You just tell her I called in this podcast. We're here to help. It's all for fun. It's with Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds. It's goofy, it's silly. They're just looking for bits. We talk to her. Then here's what happens, Sarah. One of us represents you and one of us represents her, and we go to court.

[C]

Oh, I like it.

[A]

In negotiation, we do a real negotiation, and we have to talk to her to figure out who's. Who's counsel, and then we have a conversation.

[B]

Oh, come on, sir.

[C]

Yes, but we got that idea.

[A]

Okay, so we go to crochet court.

[C]

Crochet court.

[A]

And then you know what we do?

[B]

Canadian crochet court.

[A]

Steve Berg's the judge, Jake.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Steve Berg cannot be part of anything but the actual trial because he will hear. He will try to make everybody win because he. He will hate that either you or your best friend won't like him. So he'll only go. I think I have the perfect solution. I'll buy it, and I'll give you 10 elephants for free.

[B]

Steve, again. What? You've done a lot of great stuff here just now, Johnson, but among the greatest decisions, that we put Steve in a position of authority, because as you and I know, when Steve is. When Steve is Authorized to be in charge. Oh, boy.

[A]

He's activated the pen. He'll always.

[B]

The pen and. And the tone. It's a little. Hold on a second, everybody. Let me just get. Let me get my bearings on here real quick.

[A]

Skippity do skippity day. Go.

[B]

I gotta go pee pee.

[A]

So what do you think of that, crochet, Cora? And that is we. We get the information and we have your friend on. The only thing you have to promise us, and truly promise us is that you guys don't start trying to produce this together. And that is. It's about the elephant thing. But let's agree, no hard feelings. Love you, gal. Let's just have some fun because then what's going to happen is I'm going to turn into a real grump and I'm going to sniff it out and then it's going to be like, God damn. Okay, so what we need. Here's what you tell her. I've got a. I called in. Why don't you do a text right now?

[C]

Okay, I can do that.

[A]

Perfect. And do not send this until you're happy. We're gonna bully text you because we're Americans to Canada. And then in the end, like you guys are doing now, you guys got to make your own decision. So, Sarah, you're ready for the text?

[C]

I am.

[A]

Okay, so let's start with hey, girl, hey. Or however you say it.

[B]

Probably like that.

[C]

That's exactly how I would say it.

[A]

Okay. Of course, a couple of gals from Ottawa.

[B]

Hey, girl, hey. What's up?

[A]

Girl talk. Talking about the girl talk connection.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Our stomachs with our legs in the air, twirling our hair.

[B]

I'm too young for that, but go ahead.

[A]

No, your hair is. You're not.

[B]

I'm breaking the boy I like.

[A]

So, Sarah, I have been working with the guys from the podcast. We're here to help. Ever heard of it? If not, give a listen so then she gets the tone.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I've called in with a problem that you're involved with.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

They would like to talk to you without me. And they promise one of them will be on your side.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Wannu do this weird thing with me. It could be really fun or really awkward. Who knows? Okay, now take a second and pretend you're AI and put that in your language.

[C]

I think this. This is pretty good. You. Me, I've. Hey, girl.

[B]

Hey.

[C]

I've been working with the guy since we're here to help. If not give it a listen. I've called in with a problem. That you're involved with. They would, like, talk to you without me and they promise one of them will be on your side. Want to do this weird thing with me? It could be really weird or really awkward. Who knows? Lol. I promise this is real. This is not fake.

[A]

And then. Perfect. And then. Right. It's easy. It's just like a zoom link.

[B]

Do we want to end with a bye, girl, bye? Is that how you guys sign off?

[A]

I would say because you started hagerha by babe.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

Bye. Yeah, just to seal it up.

[A]

Then you could write after that. Sorry about this text like this. The guys helped me write.

[B]

I'm seriously.

[A]

Okay, this is obviously not how we talk.

[C]

I said in parentheses. They helped me write this. I promise this is for fun.

[A]

Okay, perfect. You want to send it now?

[C]

Yeah, I can do that.

[A]

And then go ahead.

[B]

We'll have her call Jake and then we're just going to kind of get.

[A]

Her version of this before I'll take the lead on it because I'm going to just go really slow. Okay. We're going to get all the information. Then you and I, Gareth, before we tell her what's going on, we're going to pick who we want to represent.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Then we're going to say to her.

[B]

Well, that's a separate situation, obviously. We may as well just throw it on the pick. Have people vote on who they want to represent. Who?

[A]

I don't know. Because if I got it, I can't. I gotta feel passion. Okay, you're not a lawyer.

[B]

All right?

[A]

Yeah, I'm not a real lawyer.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I gotta believe it. I don't mind taking whatever it says. Embarrassing with my acting too. I gotta believe my character is right.

[B]

It shows you've got a good track record.

[A]

I literally have to go. I could see their argument here.

[B]

So interesting. All right, that's. I will, I will. I'll eat Hot Pockets for money. So I don't give a. So I'll represent whoever with whatever.

[A]

Do you think she might be free in the next. Next couple hours or. Who knows?

[C]

She has replied and she will be at work, but she might be on lunch or something, so I can ask her if she can.

[A]

What did she reply?

[C]

Okay, Is this fake?

[A]

Then will you right now go to Natalie? Natalie, will you send her the zoom link? Because maybe she can. Come on. Right away you go. If you wanted to see if it's fake, call this number.

[B]

Say it's real. Say it's real. And here's the link.

[A]

Call this number.

[C]

I did.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Did you give her the zoom link?

[C]

No, not yet, but I can do it. Okay.

[B]

Has she written anything back? Is she writing? Do you see the three dots moving?

[C]

Just cop. If you can just copy the same thing that we sent you with the.

[A]

Phone number and the meeting ID and.

[C]

Send it to her so she can call it.

[A]

If she does it right now, we'll just put Sarah in the waiting room like we did for the Friendship Game. Is that cool?

[B]

Yes. Yeah, we. Yeah, we can do that.

[A]

I wasn't asking you, Garrett.

[B]

I'm just. There was. They were both muted, so I thought. It's just you wanted to hear something. I wanted to make you feel supported, so.

[A]

Yes, thank you.

[B]

Yes, sir. Yes, girl. Yes.

[A]

Thanks, babe. Thanks.

[C]

I sent it to her and she said, can it be after work or just right now? So I sent it to her and I said, if it can be now, let me know.

[A]

Yeah, now would be great.

[C]

Oh, shoot. She has a meeting in in eight minutes. Can she call in a few hours?

[B]

Yeah, let's.

[A]

Do you want to do a quick eight minutes? Say we need five minutes of her time. I got the eight minutes, too. It's 10:30 Pacific, and then we can schedule after who's representing who. We just need her on.

[B]

Yeah, we need a feelers for Jake.

[C]

Just a little check in.

[B]

Jake has to believe.

[A]

Six minutes. Tell her to call right now. We need six minutes. We'll give her off. But we just lost a minute. We gotta go fast.

[B]

All right, dude, come on, now. Let her keep. She's Canadian. Let her keep her cool. Don't rush the Canadians.

[A]

Yes, I'll push them.

[B]

I know that's. They're getting a lot of that from us, so maybe we just. Less is more.

[A]

We gotta go now.

[B]

All right. Anything? Sarah?

[C]

She thought. Answering me.

[A]

No, she's not thinking, oh, do I want to do this or do I want to partner with China?

[B]

I know what I do.

[A]

Take the deal with us.

[C]

Oh, he said. She said, okay. And then she. I said, they'll do. They can call in for three minutes.

[A]

Yeah, fine.

[B]

Great.

[C]

Just to get a check in.

[A]

Gary. I'll run it really fast. I'm gonna speak around it. Go tell her to come on.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

What is her name? Sarah. What is her name? Okay. Hey. And then, Sarah, you gotta get out of here. The call.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Love you, Sarah.

[C]

Okay. I love you.

[A]

Guys, this is Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds. Hi.

[B]

Hi, girl. Hi.

[C]

Hi.

[A]

Hey, girl. Hi. Nice to meet. We know you have a meeting. Do you have to be gone in three minutes? I'm Gonna watch the clock for you too.

[C]

Thank you very much. Okay.

[A]

Okay, so we got to do this very fast. We got to go a little rapid fire. Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Do you know anything about a crochet thing, an elephant thing that Sarah volunteered to make you? What do you know about it? Just start going.

[C]

That. Oh, I really wanted it.

[A]

You did? Okay.

[C]

Yes. Yes, I did.

[A]

Okay. And what. And you wanted it really bad. You asked for it or did she volunteer it?

[C]

She. Well, I asked for it, and I said that I would pay for the yarn for her to make.

[A]

Oh, you did? And what did she say when you said that?

[C]

I think she just said that she would make it for me.

[A]

But you said I would pay. Okay. Yeah, but you said I would pay, and she said, I'll just make it.

[C]

I think. So she was making big ones for.

[A]

Like, the dinosaur baby or something.

[C]

Yeah, I love the dinosaur.

[A]

And you're like, I want one of those.

[C]

Yeah. I was like, can you please make one? So I was gonna get the. Well, I was just gonna say, whenever you make it, just send me the bill.

[A]

That's really cool. And what is a number you think would be fair for that? We're just talking about this because what we're gonna do is we might do a law. Like a court thing, like a people's court. So we just need information to see if we're gonna. Is you're not held by law to any of this. And we got two more minutes. What number do you think would be fair for something like this?

[C]

I don't even know. I mean, I guess whatever the materials would cost of the material is.

[A]

Are you happy with $30,000?

[C]

30,000?

[B]

Not.

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay. Are you happy with 10,000 to pay if you got a bill for $10,000 for yarn?

[C]

No, I would not pay $10,000 for yarn.

[A]

A thousand?

[C]

No. No, I would not.

[A]

500,000?

[C]

No, not 500. 300, probably not 300. 200, maybe like 100.

[A]

Okay, so you would be. You would be in for 100 over that. Would you be kind of a pass on the elephant?

[C]

Probably.

[A]

Okay, so this is very interesting. Okay, we're gonna have you back if you're willing to do this with us. And either Gareth or I is going to represent you, and the other one is going to represent Sarah. And we are going to go to.

[B]

Crochet court with the honorable Steve Berg representing the. The people.

[A]

Now you've got to go to a meeting. You've absolutely crushed this. You did wonderful. We will schedule a call that works better with your schedule. And all we ask for is be heated, be ready. This will end in a hug with you and your best friend, which is how she refers to you. I don't know if you know that.

[C]

Okay, yes, I would think so.

[A]

You are her best friend. Now you got to go to a meeting. You've got less than a minute. Yes, we appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon.

[B]

Bye.

[C]

Okay, perfect. Sounds good. Okay, bye.

[A]

Very quickly, Gareth, between you and me.

[B]

That was interesting.

[A]

Who do you want to represent.

[B]

From the small.

[A]

And what would you want to. If you were to settle out of court? What would your lawyer to lawyer if you representing. And I'm representing Sarah before we get them back. Lawyers talk. We're at the bar.

[B]

What are you proposing, Babe, I think that I. Look, I think before this all happened. Offered to pay for supplies.

[A]

Yeah, but Sarah was in a bad spot. She didn't.

[C]

She.

[A]

What is she gonna tell her best friend? Yeah, I'll charge you for my hobby.

[B]

No, she doesn't have to. No, it's not a matter of charging, but she. She's offered. Sarah came in. This whole thing is predicated on the idea that Sarah has not been offered anything in exchange for the work.

[A]

Well, guess what? The materials cost 300 bu bucks.

[B]

Well, I would think that it is on Sarah to update a little bit on what is going on with this process before she just all of a sudden either loses a friend or throws a bill down for.

[A]

Why do you think right now she hasn't finished?

[B]

I. I understand that, but I think that's. That. That's kind of why we're at the crossroads.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

But my client is already. My potential client has already offered at the very beginning of this to be a fair deal.

[A]

Will.

[B]

She didn't want to send someone off into the other road like other room toiling and crochet hell.

[A]

All right, let's bring Sarah back in. Hey, Sarah.

[C]

Hello.

[A]

Hi. How are you? So we just talked. Okay, so I'm gonna say this. She had some interesting information.

[B]

Very interesting.

[A]

Gareth would really like to represent her.

[B]

How do you feel about that? Jake, I haven't heard your opinion yet. Because I can go either way. Like I said, I'm a gun for hire.

[A]

I mean, I feel mixed. Brought up some really good points, Sarah. She brought up some real good points.

[B]

Who do you want?

[C]

Oh, oh.

[B]

Listen, this is all part of. This is law, Sarah. This is. This is not. You should not feel. Oh.

[A]

Oh, is excellent.

[B]

You should not feel that way. We're in the. This is. This is discovery.

[A]

All right? So if I'm representing Sarah, you know what? I think we're going to get to here. And this might not even use the judge, but we can bring Steve on just to set it up, but I.

[B]

Think we could even prank him.

[A]

Well, here's what I think is going to happen, Sarah. If I represent you, actually, quickly. Gareth, can you take your headphones off?

[C]

Off.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

All right, Sarah, I'm going to represent you on this.

[C]

Okay, great. That's what I was hoping for.

[A]

Okay, so here's where we're at on this. This is just off the record now. This is just us talking, okay? As a fake lawyer to a very real client, and everything we say is confidential right now. Right? Okay. I've seen a lot of shows like this, so we both know how this works. We are now in that little room. You can be honest.

[C]

Did.

[A]

Did offer to pay for supplies at the beginning and you blow it off.

[C]

I don't know, Sarah. I didn't think so. Did she say that?

[A]

Yes, she did, under oath.

[C]

Oh, my goodness.

[A]

She said.

[C]

Oh, no, I know. Okay.

[A]

She said, I love her work, we are best friends. And we were. I was saying prices, and I go. She goes, well, at the beginning, I said, let me pay for supplies. And Sarah blew that off.

[C]

But now it's too expensive.

[A]

But now it's too expensive. But here's the problem. In a very honest way, I was getting in prices because I wanted to get a gauge of where she was at. I said 10,000. She goes, I'm not spending 10,000 for a stuffed animal. The zone she would be comfortable spending is in the hundred dollar range. Okay, that's not. Okay, we're 300, Sarah. We can't go back 200.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So what are the supplies gonna cost you.

[C]

To, like, map it out for real?

[A]

Well, you said 300 bucks.

[C]

Yeah, that was my approximate.

[A]

Can we make the thing smaller so that we wrap it up, up around the $100? She pays 100, you cover the rest.

[C]

Yes, I think I can swing that because that I can make the body, like, shorter talk rather than longer, and then the legs and the ears and.

[A]

Littler. Now, we're not going to do that yet, but we had that in our back pocket. I'm going to bring Gareth back on.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Hey, Gareth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm going to be representing Sarah.

[B]

What just happened? You get a confidential meeting with your client?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Does that seem fair to you?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I had to let her. You think I was planning this ahead and it was all happening fast.

[B]

I understand. I Understand. But my client is a very busy person. So she was in a meeting right.

[A]

Now with another lawyer who. We just got a text. She's going to hire them bad. It's Eric Edelstein.

[B]

Well, that's really a bad move. So the system's on trial.

[A]

Of course. This courtroom's out of order.

[B]

This whole thing's out of order.

[A]

He's Pacino in every movie. So here's what we're going to do, Sarah. We're going to schedule a follow up with both of you and we're going to make this happen. Do us a favor and follow up with us. But I need you to say to maybe do this via text really fast. Hey, girl. Hey. The guy said we're not allowed to talk about this case because it's ongoing. We're going to send you more information soon. Bye, girl. Bye, babe. Bye.

[C]

Okay, this.

[B]

This one blew up on us. This, this.

[A]

I would just hate if you and I both ended up in contempt of court.

[B]

Well, we're dealing with Judge Berg. It depends on how high he is when he shows up for.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely guilty. Guilty of being sexy with your T shirts on.

[B]

Who's guilty? What?

[A]

Not guilty, sir. Okay, text sense and then read us what you just said.

[C]

Hey, girl. Hey. The guy said we're not allowed to talk about this case as it's ongoing. They. We will follow up with this. Bye, babe.

[A]

Bye, Sarah. You're the best. Hey, we'll talk to you soon. And do me a favor. We've all watched the same shows. Just don't get in any trouble. From now until the trial, keep your nose clean.

[C]

Absolutely. I'll keep it. I'll keep it. Good.

[A]

Do not talk to the media.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

If anybody comes to your house, you no comment.

[C]

Blind.

[A]

Blinds closed. Okay, thank you. Okay, we'll talk to you real soon. We're gonna get out of this thing.

[B]

We're gonna put you in a hotel until we do the trial.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Thanks. If we sequestered until the trial.

[A]

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[C]

Yeah, hi, I'm Murphy.

[A]

Murphy. Where are you calling from, Murph?

[C]

I'm in New York.

[A]

Where in New York?

[C]

Queens.

[A]

Murphy, what section of Queens?

[C]

Well, I'm keeping it a little vague.

[A]

Okay, respect.

[C]

I figured I could just start with the question and then give you the context from there, if that's here.

[A]

You play your game, Murphy.

[C]

Okay. Okay. So my question is, how do I get my lovely, lovely roommate to start sleeping on the couch?

[A]

Oh, this is a great one. Very relatable. I'm a couch sleeper.

[B]

I was too. I, I. You go through phases where you're just, this is working.

[A]

This is better than my bed.

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah. Crazy.

[A]

We big phases.

[B]

I still struggle sometimes with that move. I'll still be like, things are good here.

[A]

Same.

[B]

Okay, keep going. Murphy, what should we call your roommate? Let's give him a name.

[C]

Marty.

[B]

Marty and Murphy.

[A]

And it's Marty. A male or a female?

[C]

He's a man.

[A]

He's a man. Okay, so Marty sleeps on the couch and starts sleeping on the couch all the time.

[C]

So yes, I moved into my apartment in August with Marty and his roommate.

[A]

What's the other guy?

[B]

Guy?

[C]

Her name's Nicole.

[A]

So Marty, Nicole and Murph. What a cool three. What are you guys? Three's company. Do you have brown hair? Does she have blonde? Does he fall over that couch?

[B]

What's your landlord?

[A]

Like, is he a character?

[B]

He gotta look to camera a lot, eyes open.

[A]

Just crushing it comedically. And then all of a sudden, one season, he asked for too much money, and then there was a somebody else.

[B]

It's a different guy. Not as good. Does that happen, Murphy? Has that happen?

[A]

Does Marty have a friend named Larry who's a sex maniac and really a bad actor?

[B]

Nymphomaniac. Terrible actor. Arts performances, Love. Stewardesses.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Sorry, Murphy.

[C]

Y' all these references are going over my head.

[A]

I know. Because of our age, Gareth.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. 1. Jake has shown me some of these older programs as a.

[A]

As.

[B]

As my mentor.

[C]

I've been listening to the Dollars in high school.

[A]

So if that's.

[B]

It doesn't really. Okay, so keep going, Murphy. So we got Marty, Nicole, Murphy, Marty sleeping on the couch.

[C]

Yeah. So they. They'd been living here for a year with a different roommate. And then I just, like, moved in and took that third spot. I also sent in, like, a drawing of the layout of my apartment because I thought that might help. But some things to note are that he lives in the biggest room.

[A]

Wait, hold on. Murphy. Murphy, take a second. Gareth, will you walk us through this drawing?

[B]

Sure. You guys remember Home Alone? The way that Kevin planned to take over the robbers? Like that. All right, so we. We've got the entrance to the left is Murphy's room. Then I'm assuming the living room where the couch is, is right directly next to Murphy's room. To the right of that would be the kitchen. Right of that, their bathroom, Other roommate. And then Marty has the lay of the land because Marty's balcony has a balcony. An ensuite.

[A]

This is insane. That takes over the couch and now.

[B]

He'S also taking over the couch.

[A]

Actually, Murphy, I'm totally with you. This is insane.

[B]

Yes. Worse.

[C]

Yeah. So.

[B]

And her room being right there.

[A]

Yeah. Great. Great drawing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

This helps a lot. This changes the call significantly.

[C]

Oh, yeah. So about a week after I moved in, I went to, like, get a snack at night. And, you know, he was out there. But I'm also a couch sleeper. Sometimes I was like, no big deal. But then, like, it became this unspoken, like, routine. And as you saw, like, if I want to go to the bathroom, if I want to go to the kitchen, if I want to leave my room at all, like, I have to walk past the couch. And also we've nicknamed him Couch Marty when he's in this state at night, because every time I open the door, like, I get, like, a noise. And he glares at me and sometimes rolls his eyes. And I know he doesn't know he's doing it, but he just seems so angry. And when I originally emailed in, it had been like three months and he was out there like five to six nights a week. But now that we're back from the holidays, we're slowly working our way back up. Right now we're at three to four nights a week. But just to add one more layer to it, this small sectional couch broke in October. So for like two months, the main part of the couch wasn't usable. The day it broke, he came home from work around 11:45pm and immediately took out a hammer and tried to fix it, presumably to sleep on it that night, but it didn't get fixed. And so he would just sleep on this small section that was usable for two months to the point that in November they decided just to take the legs off half the couch. So now half the couch is like sitting on the floor and the other. Well, one. Yeah. So it's like in two sections. So one half is like on the floor and the other half is still like normal height, but now they can't link together, so now they like, slide apart.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

This is a shit show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So your question is essentially my guess would be how do I get that, Marty, to stop sleeping on the couch? There's easy ways to do this, Murphy.

[C]

Yeah, well, well that I, I, I, I thought the easy way would be to ask about it. That didn't work.

[A]

Yeah, but you did that and I appreciate that. And that's why you're calling in. That's what we always tell people do before you call it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Great. Well, then I'm glad, I'm glad I got that.

[B]

We're a later resort.

[A]

Okay, so here's my first pitch. You have you got a pitch, Gareth? If you want to go first, you go first.

[B]

Okay. My first is what if you start sleeping on the couch for a little bit?

[A]

So it's a competition.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. What if you create a little bit of friction there where, you know, it's interesting, Something like that.

[A]

Fire with fire.

[B]

Yeah, a little fire with fire. Another one is. It sounds like you guys do need a new couch. I don't know what the, the, you know, the promise of something like that.

[A]

Is, but with three roommates, you got to split it. We're not buying a new couch.

[B]

I would say if you get a new couch, he can't have ownership over it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Another thing I would say is if you could, like, since he's right there, you could create some friction if you had like someone spending the night there, like walking out.

[A]

How about I got something simpler.

[B]

G. Okay.

[A]

Masturbation sounds that are really gross. Murphy.

[B]

Fee.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Because your wall shares the living room wall. So if he's in his bedroom, he doesn't hear what you're doing at night. If he goes to sleep, your wall shares the wall. So what you're doing in the privacy of your room will wake him up. And what I want to do is I want him to go, ew.

[B]

Well, okay.

[A]

My room. The reason you go in a room and not a shared space but is you have walls, a door, and you can do a sound machine in a living room. Have a fucking party.

[C]

I do have a TV and I do often have it on while he's out there. Yeah, I don't think the sound is, is a deterrent enough, but maybe my sounds aren't.

[A]

Okay, how about deterring it? Okay, then how about this? When he's sleeping, walk out there, turn on the light and get yourself something to eat and start watching that tv. It's a shared space. You would never do that in his room. But you know what I would do in the living room? Have a table. This is what I would actually do, Murphy? Have a table. Start a puzzle. A thousand piecer. So it's going to take you a long time. Then when he's sleeping, go out there, turn the light on, do the puzzle, and he goes like this. Hey, what the you doing? I'm sleeping. Then go like this. Then go to your bed. I'm doing the puzzle, I'm trying to get this finished. And he'll go like, dude, I'm a sleep. And you go in a shared space on the couch, go to your room and close the door.

[B]

Cowboy that his room is so big.

[A]

I know the reason you have roommates in a room is you can go in your room and close the door and nobody can go in. In a shared space. Is a shared space.

[B]

I. I got a. I got another for you here. Mine involves a fake pee. And we could go two ways with it. We could either one night you sneak out and you pour water on the couch and make him think he peed the couch. Or the other is you sleep on it and you pour water on it and you say, apologize, you did pee on the couch. You're going to clean the cushion. But I don't. I think he's gonna be less into the idea of sleeping on a couch that you've pissed on.

[A]

But I think the problem is if it doesn't smell, he just throws a sheet over it. I would not. Yeah, I think that's right. So Murphy, are you confrontational enough to do the. Because I. I know the fix will be if you just go in there. So I was always a couch sleeper and I was even in high school and my mom got sick of it so early in the morning when she would wake up at six, the living room just became full lights, full sound.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I'll go like, hey, homegirl, what you doing? And she'll go like, go to your room. And what happens really fast is you go. I know it's 2am and I just want to pass out out here, but in four hours this day starting, I'm just gonna go in my room where I can close the door.

[B]

What time do you normally get up, Murphy?

[C]

I work from home, so I'm up around like nine, but he's gone by like six.

[A]

Okay, and what time does he go to bed?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Like late. He just doesn't sleep after midnight.

[A]

He's not getting enough sleep.

[C]

Correct.

[A]

Okay, so you're going to bed before him and he's waking up before you?

[C]

Yeah. Yes.

[A]

So how is this a problem?

[C]

Oh, well, I. Sorry, I am waking up after him. I'm not going to bed before him.

[B]

You're not going to bed before him, so he's going to bed before you?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

So it's simple. Go in the room and make a call or do this. Listen to the podcast without headphones on.

[C]

On.

[A]

And sit on the couch next to him while he's sleeping.

[B]

Where's the kitchen in relation to the couch? One more time. Because if you're just cooking some, like you could just make. Make your meals the night before. Like make your breakfast the night before and be in there clanging around in a shared space.

[A]

Can we see an image of that? The house again? I think the kitchen's right next to. I believe this is an easy fix.

[C]

Basically in the same room.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, Murphy, kitchen business.

[A]

Have you not thought of or tried make his life loud and uncomfortable?

[C]

My roommate often does meal prep while he's asleep on the couch.

[A]

And what happens?

[B]

He just sleeps.

[C]

He just is. Is sleeping.

[A]

So. Okay, then how about something as simple as this? Now here's the truth. We're going to give you the answers to this riddle. If you don't want to solve it, then there's nothing we can do.

[C]

Oh, for sure, for sure.

[A]

But Murphy, here's the reality. It's A shared space. Meaning you all have access to that couch whenever you want it. Correct. Do you believe in that principle?

[C]

I believe in that principle, yeah.

[A]

Do you believe that if Marty wants to cook breakfast at 3:00am he's allowed to?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay, so. So do I. I think the thing about roommates, which is hard, is shared spaces are shared spaces, which means scenes. Next time he's sleeping on the couch, go in there with something to do. Is there a TV in there?

[C]

There is.

[A]

And so do you guys watch TV in there? Is that something you guys do or is it everybody's watching in their own room. What do you guys do in that living room?

[C]

I'm the only one that has a TV in my room.

[B]

Yeah, but, so here's. Okay, I have a fix for that.

[A]

Your TV is not working.

[B]

Your TV broke.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Okay, so take your TV and unplug it. And saying you're having some TV issues, so everybody knows and go. You're working on it, but you're just gonna. You'll fix it later. But take that, put it in your closet, your TV's gone. When he's sleeping, go in there, be apologetic. Sorry, sorry. Just gotta watch some tv. He'll go like this. Ah, yeah, I'm just crashed. You go like this.

[C]

This.

[A]

Yeah, totally. Do you mind going to your room? I. I think the TV on full, lights, go in the kitchen, make something to eat and then go like this. Be polite. Want some popcorn?

[B]

What. What time is he crashing out?

[A]

Midnight.

[B]

Like, but what time is he on the couch?

[C]

Some night, Some nights it's like as soon as he gets home immediately. Like, like 8pm Most nights it's closer to around.

[A]

And when he's in there, are you tiptoeing around the house?

[C]

No.

[A]

So you're loud.

[C]

If it's. If it's. If it's late at night, yes. But if it's like 10 o', clock, I am normal volume.

[A]

I feel like that sleeps through it.

[C]

He. He does his little wake up, startled noise. Go back to sleep.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I. I got two. And I'll say the one. I think if your TV is broken and you're out there when he comes back watching tv, eating popcorn, that is an easy way to dissuade him from sitting on it. I mean, he should. He does not have rights over it more than you. Honestly. I think something like that is the best way to do it. Just claim it at night before he comes home. What if you cover the couch with popcorn?

[A]

Oh, that's a terrible idea. Jesse, for A smart guy like you, that's the worst pitch you've ever had. When you pop your head and I went like this. Oh great. Because I think this call is just about done. Murphy, I was about to do the wrap it up single symbol because we have a solution. The solution is you have to basically smoke him out. Yeah. You just have to be confrontational. You should film it. The solution does not cover your couch with popcorn.

[B]

I would also. I wouldn't want to sleep on a couch covered in popcorn.

[A]

There's a very with popcorn everywhere. Cuz it will actually attract animals. Yeah, don't you put some roaches in.

[C]

There once And I just left it dead on the floor because.

[B]

How about this?

[A]

Can I hide Jesse, Can I heighten your picture? Yeah. Covered in chili.

[B]

Can I hide it? Piss on it.

[A]

How about this? Covered in raccoon. Yeah, wouldn't want to sleep on that.

[B]

I think these are all good ideas. I think I will agree that you. When Jesse came in, I was like, all right.

[A]

I was like, good, it's about to be reasonable. And he goes like this. Got something. He never comes in unless it's great. Go ahead, my man. Covered in junk and food and then live in trash.

[C]

I did put in my email. The only thing I wouldn't do is Parmesan the cow.

[A]

Yeah, fair.

[C]

What if you heighten it realistically and you start leaving like used in quotes condoms on the couch. Like someone's having sex on the couch.

[A]

Hey, Natalie and Jess, what is going on with you guys? What are you us.

[B]

Honestly, I now know how you guys feel.

[A]

We don't need you guys to pitch ideas.

[B]

Finally have your POV on what it's like working with us.

[C]

What just happened to solve this for her.

[A]

So we're saying she should go have sex with somebody, get a used kind of tied up and go like this. Throw it on the couch where I live.

[B]

Put a bunch of popcorn in the condom. You a movie.

[A]

So he's like this, whoa, there's 40 condoms full of.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

He does that. Rather than make it hard for him.

[C]

To sleep, it just takes one and I would not sleep on that couch ever again.

[A]

I would, I would. I'm with Gareth, unfortunately. I really would like this. Ew.

[C]

I had, I had.

[B]

I took Ryan G's old couch once. He like gave it to me and he's like, buddy, this couch is a disaster. I was like, I don't care. He's like, the things that have happened on here. It's like, I don't care.

[A]

We Brian Farrell And I took Eric Edelstein's old couch we. We wanted. And I beat him in a po. A poker game. And he had no cat. So he goes like, I'm in. And I go, you're broke. And then he. I go, how about that gray leather couch of yours? He goes, I'm in. We beat him. Brian and I went down, took it out of his apartment, put it in ours. What did.

[B]

Eric. Eric was like, damn, you had a good hand, Eric.

[A]

You had a high card. I'm still learning the game. So, Murphy, here's the. Here's really.

[B]

The last thing I'll say is get. Why don't you talk to Nicole too? And you guys just really start. Start activating the we are on the couch when he comes home plan and taking up the space as much as possible.

[A]

Okay, so Gareth's pitch is take up the space, include the other roommate. That's a very clean pitch. That'll work. Mine is do this on your own. Keep it really simple. And that is when he's sleeping. Make it impossible to sleep in there. Very noise, very loud lights on. It is a living room, not a sleeping room until he goes in his other room. Do that all the time. I would even maybe get flashlights. Whatever you need. This is not a room for sleeping. Similar if you have a raccoon trying to sleep in a crawl space under your house. You know what the solution is? This is true. And I know this because we had raccoons on our house. You know what the solution is? You put bright lights and leave music off on what? Give them enough time to leave before you close it up because you don't want to trap them under there and kill him. So I had floodlights and radio on, and the raccoon goes, not comfortable. I mean, why would I sleep here?

[B]

It's smoke. Smoke him out. Is. I. I really do think if you commit to that raccoon is ass, that will help.

[C]

It will.

[B]

It'll work.

[A]

Murphy, you got two options. Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah. You have four options. Three, put popcorn on there. And four, as Natalie says, get a used condom and put it on the couch so that he goes, oh, somebody farked on this thing. Gross. For the kids.

[B]

I understand. I didn't believe we said on this call, but okay.

[A]

I know. It's disgusting. I'm not a language guy.

[B]

All right, Murphy, what do you think? What are you gonna do? Do we get you anywhere?

[C]

I think. Yeah. I think, honestly, I really liked the puzzle idea because I feel like that's something that, like, I can't do in my room, you know, like, it respects me. Reason I have to be out there and I have to have the lights on to see it. And then if I'm making snacks while I'm puzzling, I'm making popcorn and not snacks while I'm puzzling. And then if Nicole wants in, I'll bring her in. We can do this puzzle together late at night. And if that doesn't work, we'll start watching TV while we puzzle too.

[A]

But by the way, Murphy, watch TV while. How about this? Yeah. Are you fully caught up on our podcast? I know you've been doing dollop since high school, but are you fully caught up on us?

[C]

I'm. Since day one. Yes.

[A]

God bless you. Are you fully caught up on the dollop?

[C]

No.

[A]

So here's what you do. Here's what you do. Shout out to the dollop. Dollop. While you're puzzling. I want you to listen to the dollop full volume.

[B]

And so not even I could handle it.

[A]

You and Nicole are talking or not, but it's loud enough. The lights are on. He cannot sleep. Puzzle. So easy.

[B]

Listen, it's also if he at any like the idea, if I lived in a shared space and someone was doing a puzzle on the coffee table, I'd be like, hey, you're kind of taking over the room. Boom. That's also a very easy way to be.

[A]

Like, yeah, imagine. Exactly. So, Murphy, this is gonna work. Here's what we need you to do. We need you to take a photo of the puzzle section that you're doing, right? And while you're in there with him, take a selfie of you working on the puzzle and him trying to sleep behind you.

[C]

Yep. Perfect.

[A]

I promise you, you, if you stick with this, this is like a weight loss thing now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know that like, weird doctor who's really mean to the people where they'll be like, I need to lose £100. And he. He goes. They'll be like, I need to eat. And he goes, you've eaten enough.

[B]

Are you talking about the doctor from like 700 pound life and stuff?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I can't remember his name, but that guy's like, you're so fat.

[A]

Yeah. He'll go like, you've eaten enough for a lifetime.

[B]

Well, you're like, jesus, doctor, you're made of pizza now. Owl.

[A]

Yeah, so that's who I feel like I am with you right now. Murphy, you do this for a month, it will work. If you don't do it, it won't work.

[B]

I. And I also think exactly it because. Dr. That's right. Because you've got to kind of reset him and that's the way to do it. You've got to commit and stay committed to it. You're a puzzle person now. Sorry.

[A]

All right, Murphy, follow up with us, please.

[C]

Great. Sounds good. Thank you guys so much.

[A]

Thank you very much. Bye.

[C]

Have a good day.

[A]

Sweet.

[B]

Jesse here. This next call is a follow up to episode 233, Tat 2. Hello.

[C]

Hi. How's it going?

[B]

Good. How are you?

[A]

Good.

[C]

How are you guys doing?

[B]

Good, thank you. We know you're a follow up, so why don't you tell us your name and what your first call was and then we'll get into where you're at.

[C]

Yeah, my name is Katie. I live in Phoenix. I called about the dog dick tattoo.

[A]

Oh, my God. Oh, Katie, you and I have been emailing.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Yes.

[A]

I've been sending you those options.

[C]

I didn't know who I was emailing.

[A]

Yeah, that's not just me. It's also Jesse and Natalie. But I've been. And I do a lot of the forwarding when I'll see something.

[B]

So would you just remind people the problem that you were in, which is a hell of a predicament.

[C]

Yeah. So I got a tattoo that was supposed to be a dog that looks like my dog. It's like the outline of the tattoo and it looks like a penis from a distance. And when the top of it's covered and when you're. You're a nurse and I'm a nurse. Yeah.

[B]

So it's like you're at work and it does.

[A]

And it does look like a penis.

[B]

We really.

[A]

Yeah, it looks like a penis. Was something shooting out of the hole?

[B]

It does. It looks. It does. It looks like an ejaculating penis. We can say it, you know, whatever.

[A]

And so that's what it is. Yeah. And so what has been happening behind the scenes is we were going to do a friendship game, but really what it is is different artists have sent images in and I forwarded them to you and you've kind of given your opinions as they've gone. Is that all correct?

[C]

Yep, that's correct.

[A]

And so where are we at now, big dog?

[C]

So, yeah, you sent me. I got some from a bunch from this guy named Dan. His were pretty, like, honorable mention. But the most recent one was from a tattoo artist who lives in Kansas. And those were the ones that I really liked. So I responded, reached out to her and have been kind of like coordinating with her behind the scenes a little bit. And that's sort of where we're at right now. Now.

[B]

And we've got her in the waiting room when we want to chat with her.

[A]

Let's bring her on. Yeah, yeah, Cool.

[B]

I'll let her in now.

[C]

Heck yeah.

[A]

Hello.

[C]

Hello.

[A]

Hey, how are you?

[C]

I'm doing fantastic. How are you?

[A]

Good. So we've set it up, but can we get your name?

[C]

My name is Britney Stto.

[A]

And can we get the name of your tattoo shop and the location and where people can find you? What's the website or the ig? How can they find your tattoos?

[C]

It's Aptitude Tattoo Company is the name of the shop in wichita, Kansas. It's aptitudetattoos.com.

[A]

How do you spell it? If guys are as dumb as me.

[B]

They don't have aptitude.

[C]

I T U D E. Okay.

[A]

So if you want a tattoo and you're in the area, Brittany is a great option. Britney, you emailed in some beautiful designs. Katie got excited about those designs. Katie's thinking about, of all the people who have written in and there's been a lot, your work spoke to her the most. What do you think about a cover up?

[C]

See, I mean, I'm down for cover up, but I mean, it's going to be a lot of time and effort and things like that to go into a cover up.

[A]

So what is, what is the time of a cover up? Like, what does that mean?

[C]

I guess it just depends on the design that we went. We would go with, with, you know, moving forward. When it comes to a cover up, I like to put something light or like the subject matter right next to the COVID up. So we can use the negative space and then use like background or anything else to do the COVID up. So your eye is more focused on the subject matter, not the actual cover up.

[A]

Interesting. So it's becoming a huge tattoo.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, just depending on what we go with. But I mean, I, I do a lot of COVID ups and a lot of reworks and a lot of times when you're doing something that's like, you know, dick shaped or whatever, even just changing a little bit of the shape really does help.

[A]

It does.

[C]

So like, putting the color in there would make, like, bring more focus to the tail. Not.

[A]

So you're saying. So you're saying we might not even need a full cover up? The colorization of this will actually change it.

[C]

Yes, 100%. Yeah, it's mostly that it's just an outline, and then there's just like this, you know, the weird tail. But if you color it in, then it looks less like a dick, you know, because you have the tail, you can see, you know, a little bit more of what's happening.

[A]

All right, Katie, what are your thoughts? Because I'm Britney's selling me.

[C]

I know. I'm thinking, does it. I. Does it, like, have to be color? Do you think? I'm not opposed to it. I just. I don't have, like, an eye for this, obviously, or I wouldn't have gotten a dick tattooed on my arm.

[B]

Katie, you got a dog. And it turned out with the shirt, it looked like a dick. Don't do that.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I feel like I'm so cautious, like, going forward.

[B]

Britney, were you alluding to the fact that you're used to covering up tattoos that look like dicks? Is this.

[C]

I have done quite a few, actually.

[A]

Interesting.

[C]

And I specifically remember doing this one that was. I call it the dick jelly. And it looked like a jellyfish. That was. I mean, it looked like a dick, like, straight up. Yeah. So during my apprenticeship, like, my sponsor was like, make sure when you're designing something, you don't see any dicks or vaginas. So I, like, really look out for it. So I'm never putting that on someone.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And so if we go back to the images of the five that you sent with this flowers inside, can we see that again, Jesse? Britney, what I'm looking at here is there's the six dogs you sent in. Let's talk out each one of these, because what it sounds like is you're saying one of these could really do the trick and it will fix it. Is that correct?

[C]

I mean, I definitely, definitely think so. I could definitely draw more. Also more ideas. I kind of kept, like, that line work style, because that's kind of what she had with the dog. Totally flower the bush. But if she was willing to go in a completely different style, you know, I could use the line work and actually put gray shading in the dog and make it look a little bit more realistic or. You know what I mean?

[A]

I think. I think what we're looking for is not a full cover up, Not a crazy, huge. Like, I will say, Katie, I'm gonna speak for you now. She's not a huge tattoo person, so we don't want to walk out of her. It's not a dick. But now I have, like, from my. My ear to my ankle tattoos. Yeah. So she liked the simplicity of the dog, the lack of call, like, just that, like, it was a shout out to her dog. So I think we might be closer than we think. And hearing what you're saying about. You've done this before in the shading. Maybe there's just a way to change a little bit. Do you really like Katie, do you like the lines of these art? Are you open to Britney exploring a little bit? It.

[C]

I'm pretty open, honestly. Yeah. Like, I. I feel like I'm journeying into the tattoo world. I only have, like, three other little ones, so it's not like I'm against more elaborate tattoos. I think I'm just scared at this point because if I commit to something and it's not great, but I trust Brittany to come up with ideas that, like, would look good.

[A]

Yes. That aren't that crazy time commitment thing. Because. Because we are also in two different cities.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So ideally, it would be more of a fly in a big session, A fly home.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that realistic? I don't know. Tattoos.

[B]

That's doable for sure, right?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, the line work one wouldn't take me very long at all. You know, maybe, you know, 45 minutes to an hour. But if we wanted to do something a little bit more, I mean, with the color and stuff in there, if we decided to go that route out, that one would take, you know, three hours.

[A]

Yeah, but of. But even if it's like, a eight hour, like, even if it's a day.

[C]

Right, Right.

[A]

So here's what. Here's what I'm thinking. If you guys are both into this, Britney, if you're comfortable with this, would you create a couple, like, three options in your style that represent your version of the tattoo, rather than just saying, this is what she got last time.

[B]

Time.

[A]

This is how we fix it. But you go, like, this is my stamp on this. And what I do know about tattoos and tattoo artists is from friends who have tattoos, the artist matters to them. The story matters to them. So that this would turn into Britney original. And then when we've got the three that you as the artist, like Britney, and you as the canvas. Katie, like, maybe we could do a. We need to pick. Oh, and the audience could also all vote on it.

[B]

Oh, I like that.

[C]

I guess my question is, are you just trying to stick black and gray then? Because you're not too much of a tattoo person. Some people really want to stick with black and gray. If that's, like, their vibe, I don't need to. I've always been More of a black and gray aesthetic. This is, like, super weird. Maybe you can answer this question. I have always worried that it'd be, like, allergic to colored ink because I'm allergic to fake metals, and someone told me that. But maybe that's a myth. It's not a myth. I mean, you know, some people are allergic to reds, and so I will stick away from even brown. Yeah, maybe. But, like, blue and greens are typically thick. Safe for the most part for school. If you don't have any allergies, would it be possible to see, like, one in a color direction and one in a, like, a black and white direction? 100%.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then we will post it all on our social media. We'll obviously tag you along with it. And then what we will do is we will create a. We need to pick Katie. Once you're like, I like all three of these. Perfect. And then once everybody's in, we will get a vote from the people. But then that'll just be information for you, Katie. If we go 72% liked number two. And you go, I'm going number one. Well, that's like the love connection.

[C]

Yeah, fair enough.

[B]

But again, we do know that, you know, Katie wants to get out of this mess, and she does have an affinity for picking the one that looks most like the dick.

[A]

So maybe we listen to the people.

[B]

So I think the people, the democr. Let democracy shine.

[C]

Perfect. All right, that sounds good. Hey, Katie, is there any way that I could get maybe a little bit clearer tattoo, like, pictures of the tattoo and with a shirt on so I could see what just the bottom portion would look like? Because those ones are kind of blurry. It's kind of tough to go off of.

[B]

I can tell you what it looks like. It looks a lot like a dick with stuff coming out of it.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, almost.

[A]

Almost exactly.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I can email you some pictures here.

[A]

So Katie and Britney, you two guys are in it with each other. When you are ready for the next stage, email in. We're very excited. We appreciate you both participating.

[B]

Yeah, this is great. We're very close.

[A]

Yeah, this is going to win.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Okay. Thanks, everybody.

[B]

Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

Great.

[A]

Bye.

[C]

Bye.

[B]

Lot of. Lot of world building.

[A]

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[B]

Oh, it's just completely different. Completely different.

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

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[A]

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