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Savannah
This is a Headgum podcast. This is a Headgum podcast.
Jake Johnson
And we are
Gareth Reynolds
back.
Jake Johnson
Jake G. Man, how many of these episodes have we made, sir?
Gareth Reynolds
God, I don't even know. What are we at?
Jake Johnson
I just looked today. 289 was released.
Gareth Reynolds
Crazy.
Jake Johnson
We're gonna be at 300 soon, sir.
Gareth Reynolds
That is crazy.
Jake Johnson
Wait, 300? We did something big for 100. We did something big for 200. We got to do something big for 300.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. Well, dare I say. Ah, we're revamping Patreon.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
We could do a 300 on Patreon.
Jake Johnson
Oh, do live thing.
Gareth Reynolds
Do a live thing. It's kind of flown by, but it also feels like it's been a while. It's one of those weird.
Jake Johnson
It feels like it's flown by and we've been doing this forever, and I can never remember not doing this podcast.
Gareth Reynolds
I feel the same way. I feel like we've been doing this, but also it doesn't feel that it's very funny because we've talked about a thousand times, but it just. It just kind of happens so randomly
Jake Johnson
and just keeps bobbing and weaving.
Gareth Reynolds
I know.
Jake Johnson
It keeps bobbing and weaving. So we are officially doing a 300th live on Patreon. We're going to set the date. It's gonna be soon.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, great.
Jake Johnson
Me too. I'm around end of May, early June.
Gareth Reynolds
Now do we talk about other Hollywood business? We, buddy.
Jake Johnson
Anything, buddy. Yeah, buddy.
Gareth Reynolds
Big day.
Jake Johnson
Big day.
Gareth Reynolds
Big day.
Jake Johnson
My new show, Sunset PI, was picked up by NBC. I fly to New York City tomorrow morning. That's why we're doing a late night tonight. We're doing the upfronts. We are back in. We're making it happen.
Gareth Reynolds
What is. I mean, that must feel so great.
Jake Johnson
It's pretty cool.
Gareth Reynolds
And for you it sounds great. It sounds like such a wheelhouser.
Jake Johnson
You know what I'm excited about is the episode that Gareth Reynolds appears on your early pitch. Gareth for who? You will play in Sunset PI.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, it's gotta be. I mean, you know. Okay. Beauty. Love this. For me. Suspect red herring. Suspect. Who keeps getting details wrong but didn't actually have an involvement in it at all.
Jake Johnson
Let's do an audition for it in three. Gareth Reynolds. This late? This is for episode four of Sunset PI. G, if you're ready.
Gareth Reynolds
Hands. I will shave. Okay.
Jake Johnson
Oh, you have shaved. I don't know. You've waxed.
Gareth Reynolds
I'll grow. I'll do anything.
Jake Johnson
Say Gareth Reynolds. I will wax. And sniper.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm waxed. And cut.
Jake Johnson
Okay, so you Will wax your genitalia? Would you wax your butthole?
Gareth Reynolds
Yes.
Jake Johnson
What words would you say while being waxed?
Gareth Reynolds
Whatever you want me to say, but my catchphrase during waxing is wowee.
Jake Johnson
Well, can we hear that a couple times? And three, two, one, action.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, wowee,
Jake Johnson
wowee. Wow.
Gareth Reynolds
That really got me.
Jake Johnson
That was really great, Gary. So let's try again. So now pretend you're being. Is this the scene? It became it. Now pretend you're being waxed. And you know this. I don't know if you've ever had it, but it hurts. Your line is. Okay, so your line is, oh, wowie, wowee. Oh wowie.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, wowee, oh, wowee.
Jake Johnson
Oh, wowie. Good. You lost it on the end because I laughed. I agree.
Gareth Reynolds
I agree.
Jake Johnson
So let's. And that was my fault. So let's put a little less spit on the ball and a little bit more.
Gareth Reynolds
Does Jake ever come to these? Is he ever at these?
Jake Johnson
He's on the other side of that mirror. It's a two way. It's a two air. All right.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, yeah. Two wear. Yeah. Okay.
Jake Johnson
It's a two way. So he's back.
Gareth Reynolds
One way is a regular one. If you can hear me back there, he's probably chuckling. Knowing him, he's having a laugh.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, he's back there with like four executives. They're testing us to see he loves my stuff.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, ready?
Jake Johnson
Three. Whenever you're ready. On your own thing because obviously when I counted down, you changed.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. You want.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
All right. I'm not sure if you always run it like this.
Jake Johnson
What does that mean? Are you judging the way I run my cast?
Gareth Reynolds
I like the way you run it.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Huh?
Gareth Reynolds
I like the way you run it.
Jake Johnson
Okay. Thanks. Are you okay?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I'm very good.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah. I want.
Jake Johnson
Your eyes are very glassy, sir.
Gareth Reynolds
I was sleep. I was near sleep on the couch not too long ago. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
How tired are you?
Gareth Reynolds
I'm tired.
Jake Johnson
Oh. How long was the drive?
John / Mitch (different callers)
Oh, wow.
Jake Johnson
We pass.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, agreed.
Jake Johnson
Really fast. Let's get. Let's get you this job real quiet. You got. You're. You're getting your nuts waxed in three, two, one, action.
Gareth Reynolds
Wowe. Wowie, wowe.
Jake Johnson
Thank you so much for coming in. We're very happy with that. Put a pin in you.
Gareth Reynolds
That's good.
Jake Johnson
Don't tell me that's good.
Gareth Reynolds
No, it is. Yeah, absolutely. That you want that. Next is hip pocket, which is fun too.
Jake Johnson
I don't think it's. I don't think hip pocket's a term Right.
Gareth Reynolds
I remember you. Yes. You'd be the side hip pocketed.
Jake Johnson
And it was an old Hollywood term which meant they wouldn't really represent you. No, I told you this story when Eric and Derek Waters and all those guys tried to get me their manager. His name was Jim Sheridan, I believe. And he came and saw us, and they were all like, you gotta represent Jake. He doesn't have an agent on Mandre. He just moved to town. And I went into his Hollywood apartment where his office was, too.
Gareth Reynolds
Not good. This feels like Sunset, PI.
Jake Johnson
There was like a weird little living room. He was. You could like, smell his microwave food. He said, go ahead, do the characters. So I did three different sketch characters for a man sitting at a kitchen table who was not laughing. And we were fully committing and making eye contact, and he was not laughing. And I just kept going for it. And afterwards, he said, you know, I've been in this business for a while now. And he goes. And I can see when somebody has it. And you, sir, do not have it.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Wow.
Gareth Reynolds
And I go crazy.
Jake Johnson
Well, I appreciate that, man. And he goes, I'm not gonna represent you. You're not ready for that.
Gareth Reynolds
I gathered.
Jake Johnson
I go, well. And it was so wild. Like, he wasn't nervous to be this rude to me. And I was like, I'm still acting professional, but it is just two guys at an apartment. And I was really.
Gareth Reynolds
It's not like you're doing great.
Jake Johnson
Excited. But instead, I went like, well, anyhow, thanks for the opportunity if you ever change your money. And he was like, thanks so much, Shake. And I walked out. I'm like, what a little goober I am.
Gareth Reynolds
So then, hey, I mean, I've been there, though, where you take it on the chin so hard. You're like, I shouldn't. What do you tell Eric and Derek after that? You're like, yeah, I don't know, man.
Jake Johnson
It wasn't a good fit. I mean, obviously he was loving what I was doing, you know, Like, I don't know.
Gareth Reynolds
The first character wasn't the right one to put the first slide.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. But honestly, like, for me, I'm not sure he's a good fit. And I don't know. I think I'm going to pass.
Gareth Reynolds
He's still in the business, this fella.
Jake Johnson
I don't know.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, God, this is that. Now you should. This is what I would do. I would reach out if I was you. I would say, hey, Sheridan, it's Jake Johnson. I don't know if you remember 20 years ago, I was in your Weird apartment that smelled like Lean Cuisines. And I did three characters for you. Said I didn't have it. You know who thinks I have it? NBC baby just got picked up now.
Jake Johnson
Because then he could also go, I've seen you not a fan. And then I would go, it would still hurt. It would still hurt from a fake manner. He'd go like this, I hear you, but let's see how the numbers do. And I'll be like, it's a good response.
Gareth Reynolds
We need a second season more than any other.
Jake Johnson
Then he goes, I mean, two seasons these days you're doing shorts.
Gareth Reynolds
We need syndicate. I know. They don't do syndication anymore. We need syndication. I need to be on TVS in the afternoons.
Jake Johnson
He's like. He's like, kid, you just don't got it.
Gareth Reynolds
We're gonna show. We're gonna show him, like Sheridan style.
Jake Johnson
We don't got it. They've been in this business for a long time.
Gareth Reynolds
We got it. And they're just sitting at a kitchen. They're just sitting at a kitchen table smelling like Hungry Man Meals. This is a new and office. This is an apartment. Without further, further.
Jake Johnson
Just want to mention that all new episodes are released a day early on Hulu.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Jake Johnson
We are also having. Our back catalog is going to be on Hulu. We're going to do about 20 at a time. So if you have not checked us out on Hulu, then check us out on Hulu. Gareth, Jesse, are we saying any lies?
Gareth Reynolds
No. And you can get season one, season two, we're gonna have a nice melange on Hulu. But the day early, I mean, there's a lot of advantages.
Jake Johnson
Here's another thing. Here's another thing. People going, well, I don't have hulu. You got YouTube because we're there too.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, Hulu a day early. YouTube for stragglers.
Jake Johnson
And also you go, I don't have that. Oh, we got Patreon.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
They go, I don't have that. What do you want?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, okay, Jake, we're trying to be inclusive and you're yelling at them. But I think you're right. It's just.
Jake Johnson
Look, watch this show anywhere.
Gareth Reynolds
There's a lot of options.
Jake Johnson
Okay, Hulu's early.
Gareth Reynolds
Hulu's early.
Jake Johnson
Audio day of YouTube, day of Patreon. No ads.
Gareth Reynolds
Here's the way to remember it. Hulu knew.
Jake Johnson
So Nulu, it's not the way to remember. They also have back catalog stuff.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, then that we call. Yeah. All right. It's falling apart.
Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
That's right. Listen, the bed. I find this when I travel, Jake. The bed really huge. The bed is you. You miss the bed. When you come back and you get to your bed, if you don't have
Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
Ah. And Casper makes the best bed. And you know what else? They sent us a couple of pillows and I just napped on those right before this ad. And let me tell you, brother, they did their job.
Jake Johnson
I'm not gonna lie. I'm a big pillow guy.
Gareth Reynolds
That's interesting. That sounds like. That's. That's interesting.
Jake Johnson
Not a lot of them. I know what I like in a pillow.
Gareth Reynolds
That's interesting.
Jake Johnson
I'm not just any pillow. I'm not either what I like in a pillow.
Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
You got snow technology, brother.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know what that means.
Jake Johnson
You're cool no matter what.
Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
I don't. I don't eat in bed.
Gareth Reynolds
All right.
Jake Johnson
You ever realize you ate in bed?
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, he is today.
Jake Johnson
What'd you eat?
Gareth Reynolds
Chips. I had chips. It was a bad choice, but it's okay.
Jake Johnson
Chips on a Casper.
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Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
yeah. Gareth.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, we, we've. Listen, we love booking.com. it offers a wide array of hotels, vacation rentals. I mean, we've talked about this before. You go to booking.com you're going to find exactly what you're looking for. I know they say booking for, but I'm being serious. You're going to find. I use it all the time when I go on the road, whenever I have to book my own accommodation. Well, because it's still right there. It's easy.
Jake Johnson
It offers a wide array of hotels and vacation rentals across the United States. So you can find exactly what you're booking for. There's something for everyone, even those who are impossible to please. I'm going to say I'm a little impossible to please.
Gareth Reynolds
I was going to say you. And then you also have kids, which is difficult.
Jake Johnson
But booking.com, i don't do a lot of the Airbnb style rentals. Yeah, I like hotels for like the house.
Gareth Reynolds
I would rather, I mean, but that's what I like about using it is that you sort of get a sense of the area, you know, how far away you are from where you're gonna go. So.
Jake Johnson
That's true.
Gareth Reynolds
I go back and forth, but I would ra. I want a kitchen. I will cook. Yeah, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care for anyone's judgment.
Jake Johnson
You just spent a lot of time on the road.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, it's not great. But booking.com makes out of the road.
Jake Johnson
Are you out of 365?
Gareth Reynolds
It varies year to year. Last year was. I mean, last year was over 50%, so.
Jake Johnson
And how many of those are you using booking.com?
Gareth Reynolds
probably 15%. Because a lot of times the club will book where I'm going for, but if I have a down night, what, what I've been trying to do lately is finding if I can book my own stuff, which I'm trying to more and more. I kind of find a place in the middle of three cities so I can stay in the same place. But that's booking.com right there. That's like we always say, find exactly
Jake Johnson
what you're booking for. Booking.com booking. Yeah. Book today on the site or in the app? Yes. This episode of the podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. If you want to know what's great about Squarespace, Gareth Reynolds, tell them about your website.
Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
Hereto help pod.com is our show Website that is constantly evolving. And one thing I want to say, and that's a squarespace. Guys, check out the website because it's starting to evolve a little bit. So we've gotten emails from people being like, where do I find the blank? In the blank? Well, go to heretohelpod.com which is a squarespace website to get all the answers you need. Squarespace gives you everything you need. It's got cutting edge design. It's got. You can put donations on there. Fun. Directly on your website if you want.
Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
That's cool.
John / Mitch (different callers)
I think optimization is good.
Jake Johnson
There you go.
Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
But actually, Gil, it looks like your microphone is not plugged in, brother.
Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
We're back, baby. Hello.
Jake Johnson
Hello.
Savannah
Hello.
Jake Johnson
Can we get your name, please?
Savannah
My name is Savannah.
Jake Johnson
Savannah, will you tell us all the things you think we're gonna ask? What with as much energy as you got, just see if you can run your own intro. Savannah, go.
Savannah
Am I get. Am I giving my problem? Is that what you're asking?
Jake Johnson
Just do whatever you want.
Gareth Reynolds
Just blowing this.
Savannah
Oh my God. There's so much pressure.
Jake Johnson
I don't know, Savannah.
Savannah
I'm anticipating like one of your classic questions. You guys make me nervous.
Jake Johnson
Savannah, go.
Savannah
I'm just going to start with. I'm starting with my question. Here I go.
Jake Johnson
Savannah, tell us about yourself.
Savannah
Okay, my name is Savannah. I'm 30 years young. I live in Jacksonville, Florida and I like to crochet.
Gareth Reynolds
There it is.
Jake Johnson
Savannah, if there's a name of a book and it was about you, what Would it be called no.
Savannah
I hate this question and I was
Jake Johnson
gonna ask a book about your life. What's it called? Go Savannah.
Savannah
It's called I Hate this and I'm ready for it to be over. That sounds really dark. I take it back.
Jake Johnson
That's not what it is. By the way. I'm stealing that. I'm ready for it to be you
Gareth Reynolds
like this on the COVID It's one
Jake Johnson
of my early headshots where I have like a beanie on and I'm like,
Gareth Reynolds
I would love to see that headshot. Please.
Jake Johnson
All right, Savannah, what's your problem? Thanks for the energy.
Savannah
Okay, so my boyfriend and I live together and he like one to two nights a week he plays Xbox in our shared like room that we use as an office with his longdistance buddies.
Jake Johnson
What did you say?
Savannah
Not sexy.
Gareth Reynolds
Sexy. And he's right. I mean listen, we'll get into this. But I.
Jake Johnson
One generation.
Gareth Reynolds
One of the. Are we? Because one time I went over to Berg's place for something.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
And he was gaming and he had his headset on and his controller in his hand. Well, he just had to hand me something like at the door and he was, he was like hold on one second guys. There you go. Thanks a lot. And I was like this is life changing.
Jake Johnson
Worse.
Gareth Reynolds
This is the lowest I've seen you. It was tough to see.
Jake Johnson
I get it Savannah. Keep going.
Savannah
Yeah, this is going to paint him in a really bad light. And. And I did warn him that. But we're all okay with it.
Jake Johnson
He's a great guy. So he plays video games.
Gareth Reynolds
He's a little bit of a baby boy too.
Savannah
He's. He's both. He's sometimes baby boy but he puts on his noise canceling like over the here over the ear headphones and they are blasting like the sounds of his shooter games. His friend voices, sometimes music that he does that. Oh yeah, he's not bothering me. I'm doing my own thing and if I'm home like I'll usually come interrupt him. I don't interrupt him a lot but just like to bring him dinner. Classic, you know, great girlfriend bringing a home cooked meal to her loser gamer boyfriend. You're a great guy but I. He's a great guy.
John / Mitch (different callers)
He's baby boy.
Savannah
But I. That's where my problem comes in. Because I cannot enter that room while my boyfriend is gaming without scaring the living shit out of him. Because he is so absorbed in his little shooter game that he's not hearing me knock. He's not hearing Me yell so he's like on edge. And then suddenly I'm like next to him and he jumps out of his skin. So no matter what I do, he just cannot hear me. And then like 10% of the time my warnings are somehow my warnings are the ones that are too loud and like that scares him. And then there's like 5% of the time where, you know, I walk in, I give him this mail and he hears it coming and it's fine. But we're both sick of him me scaring him. So my question is like, how do I interrupt his gaming without scaring him to death?
Gareth Reynolds
Jake, what a great setup this guy has. He's just sitting there gaming and he's. She's door dashing food to him. And the problem here is I'm frightening my boyfriend.
Jake Johnson
Agreed.
Gareth Reynolds
I mean it is a man's world. That is crazy.
Jake Johnson
How do I scare him less while
Gareth Reynolds
he's my, my grown boyfriend is getting scared from his food.
Savannah
I mean, it'd be a bad look for him.
Jake Johnson
Well, it's just, it's, it's a good look for you.
Gareth Reynolds
Good for him. I guess it certainly is. What are you bringing him normally? How, how like what sort of things are you dropping off?
Savannah
Like what sort of meals?
Gareth Reynolds
Or just like meals?
Savannah
I'm, you know, I'm cooking everything. I'm cooking pasta, I'm cooking burger bowls, I'm cooking like salad, salads, I don't
Gareth Reynolds
know, a wide variety of foods.
Jake Johnson
Crazy.
Gareth Reynolds
He's just in a little room.
Jake Johnson
You're like, you know, I've got a question. How do I turn my boyfriend on less while he's gaming, while I'm trying on my lingerie while cooking him food? And how do I not hurt his shoulders so much after I give him his massages? Because I have also crazy strong hands. And he's like, ew, get away from me with the lingerie and the food and the massages.
Gareth Reynolds
How can my boyfriend keep focus while he's playing games with his weird friends from across the country while I jerk him off? How do I make it perfect for my boyfriend?
Jake Johnson
Yeah, well, he's like, get out of here. I'm playing with a 12 year old boy named Trevor. I'll kill you, Trevor. We're in a war.
Gareth Reynolds
I tried to buy some bows and arrows.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, he's like, I'm in a make believe world where I have a girlfriend named Banna. Not scaring me.
Gareth Reynolds
You're scared. The idea that he. So he brought this up at some point. He's like Babe, I love you but you're scaring me with my dinner.
Jake Johnson
That's not how he brought it up. He brought it up like this. When you bring me Milo, it scares me.
Gareth Reynolds
And then his buddies on his headset.
Jake Johnson
My girlfriend scares me too when I play shooter games. How about this? The guy is in the middle of a fake war zone and he's like this M14 take out 95 niner.
Gareth Reynolds
He's. He is in the trenches in a full on war and then he gets a burn.
Jake Johnson
I'm playing a game called prisoner of war. I'm in this. Ah, what a burger bowl. What a baby bowl.
Gareth Reynolds
I almost killed my burger bowl.
Jake Johnson
You can't scare me like that. I'm shooting my enemies.
Gareth Reynolds
I can't wait for your boyfriend to listen to this episode. He is going to be furious.
Savannah
No, he fully, he fully predicted this. I will say so. He said, you know, he could be the punching bag if it makes it a good episode.
Jake Johnson
He understands how guys are going to talk about guys on this. Cuz this one is every once in a while a guy will have a situation where you'll go like buddy, you don't know how good you got it.
Gareth Reynolds
He, he, he doesn't. He does not. He would not want people to know
Jake Johnson
this because this is.
Gareth Reynolds
There's a fear now that he might have to prepare his own little suppers.
Jake Johnson
There's a fear now that now he's. The end of this is going to him being. I'm him going. I'm really sorry. I have noise canceling headphones. I play video games. You scare. I. First of all I want to say thank you. And second of all I'm going to put a time when there's dinner and I'm going to come get it.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, there you go.
Savannah
That's. That's solution. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Well that's an obvious. There's more. We're the. The real solution is going to be easy and that is there's a time when dinner's ready and if baby boy wants to eat, he's got to stop shooting people in a fake war zone.
Gareth Reynolds
Cover me. I've got to go get my burger bowl.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, I'm in the middle of a race here. Hey, eat a fake burger boil and that won't come in here and eat with a real woman, you clown.
Savannah
Great. I'll relay all of that to him. Problem solved.
Gareth Reynolds
There's a pitch.
Jake Johnson
We'll get there. We'll get. We're just getting hot.
Gareth Reynolds
I've got a pitch for you if you want it.
Jake Johnson
Break up with him and meet Gareth. He's somewhere on the road right now.
Gareth Reynolds
Drink a burger bowl.
Savannah
He.
Jake Johnson
Gareth is so hungry.
Gareth Reynolds
Starving. It is a absolute nightmare. Here's what I would pitch. Just because maybe we. The schedule, whatever, you know what I mean? And baby boy, he's locked in there. Why don't we. Let's, let's do some prison stuff and let's leave the plate of food. Start out side of the door and then when it's ready, you slide a green card under the door. So he'll be checking over there.
Jake Johnson
No way.
Gareth Reynolds
And then when he sees the green card in the room, he knows it's time to open the door and get his little supper.
Jake Johnson
No. That's a very good pitch, but no.
Gareth Reynolds
Why?
Jake Johnson
Because we are making it more crazy. Here's the reality.
John / Mitch (different callers)
True.
Jake Johnson
Here's what I would do. Savannah, the food's in the kitchen. You do not bring him anything. You can text him if you want him, but in terms of him being startled, you're not warning him. You're not saying, hey, I know you're in the middle of the Amazon saving the trees. In your make believe, good world, you goober, but in the real world, there's a woman who just made a plate of food. You want some? And maybe, buddy, maybe there's going to be some romance if you get that little geek machine off your head.
Gareth Reynolds
I think I, I.
Savannah
Okay, that's fair.
Jake Johnson
I think you don't go to him with the food. You don't go like this. You know, you're not doing the airplane chugga chugga choo choo to make a little boy eat. You're not going like this. He's your meatball. Here's your meatball. You're going like this. If you want a meatball and these meatballs, then you come in here and you get them. If not, I, eventually I might find somebody else to give this food to.
Gareth Reynolds
I, I do think if I'm. If he's. He's in the middle of a jungle machete ing through to save people from
Jake Johnson
some sort of I can't eat right now, there might be gold in them hills.
Gareth Reynolds
I do think in a down moment, and I don't know much about gaming, but in a down moment, which I'm sure there is, I have him come get his supper. You can even have put together the bowl for him and put some foil
Jake Johnson
over it and it goes in the microwave.
Gareth Reynolds
But he comes and he comes and gets it. His headset will work.
Jake Johnson
I would also do a thing. Savannah. That you don't make him dinner on the nights he's gaming. You want to know why? Because if you're making dinner for him, you guys should eat together.
Gareth Reynolds
I have a pitch.
Savannah
So fair.
Jake Johnson
I have a pitch.
Gareth Reynolds
I have a pitch in that direction because I do think this is tilt. He's not going to like this pitch. No, I think you get a night where you're in that room doing something and he brings you dinner one night a week. I do love that.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, but. Yeah, I like that too.
Gareth Reynolds
But look, he could do it with all of his buddies on a headset. They can all be cooking together for the women who are just dropping off lasagna for him for some reason. And they can all just be like, cool, I'm adding the parmesan right now. Cover me. All right. Cool ovens are. Gabe, set your oven to 375.
Jake Johnson
Steve Berg just felt this is his favorite video game. You think he likes shooter games? He's gonna go like this. Jesus. Jesus. 375 is too hot.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh no.
Jake Johnson
It's gonna crisp the casserole.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm burning the chicken.
Jake Johnson
So Savannah, here's my pitch to you. You say, I talked to the guys. You're right, it went sideways. Their proposal.
Gareth Reynolds
Bad news, hun.
Jake Johnson
I have some bad news. It went sideways. They roasted you in a big way. It went sideways. And it was not what I called about. But they are now uncling me a little bit and saying that the adjustment I have to make is you're a grown man. If you want to play video games, then play him. But those nights, I. I'm not feeding you or bringing you anything. And so anything you want, I'm happy. You know, while I make the meatballs, I'll make an extra one. It's just going to be in the fridge. When you're ready to eat it, eat it. And if I have something to give you, rather than startling you, I'm just gonna text you or I'll leave a note under the door. But those days when you're in there, there's no contact between it. It's. I mean, then we're just roommates in a house and.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Right, right, right.
Jake Johnson
You know, but I want you to think of them the way Connor has. Roommates, that's just a 70 year old Russian lady.
Gareth Reynolds
Different lives.
Jake Johnson
There's no link between you and this guy. Those nights afterwards, if he's like, you should know, I murdered 42 people in a war zone. That doesn't result in lovemaking. He didn't just get home from the war. He's not a hero.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm ready for my burger bowl. I just killed bin Laden. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Jesus Christ. Am I exhausted. My football team just won a playoff
Gareth Reynolds
game, so we're in the FIFA championship.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Is there any salt? The burger bowl is a little tasteless.
Jake Johnson
I actually. And I could use some. I need to carve up. We got a big game later where I'm at my ass and my fingers are going to be moving.
Gareth Reynolds
He needs electrolytes for his thumbs.
Jake Johnson
Oh, my God, my thumbs. I need to put them in ice.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm not gonna be able to sleep tonight.
Jake Johnson
So, Savannah, this has gone obviously a little sideways.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, we are.
Jake Johnson
But where are you? What?
Gareth Reynolds
Are you feeling okay?
Savannah
Yeah. No, and I'm hearing you guys. I'm really hearing you. And I couldn't agree more. Like, I'm a feminist. I hate these traditional gender roles. Me bringing my, you know, gamer boyfriend his meal. I will say he does all the dishes. I haven't touched a dish, you know, in two years. I haven't filled up my own water bottle in two years. So he's doing the work.
Gareth Reynolds
Sure.
Savannah
His light defense. I wouldn't say he's a gamer. I would say this is just a method to hang out with his long distance friends. And if it wasn't for Savannah.
Gareth Reynolds
Look, let's be honest. He's a gamer. You're dating a gamer and that's okay.
Jake Johnson
You love him and I love Savannah. I need you to say it.
Savannah
I can't.
Jake Johnson
I can't say. Say I am a feminist and I bring my gamer boyfriend burger bowls. Go ahead.
Savannah
And guys, this is really hard for me. This is ruining my reputation.
Jake Johnson
Then go. I bring my boyfriend burger bowls, but sometimes I startle him because of his noise canceling headphones and he gets scared.
Savannah
This is a lot to memorize.
Gareth Reynolds
You guys need to give me a script.
Jake Johnson
Paraphrase it, put it in your own words. Let's just hear it. Savannah.
Savannah
Okay. I'm dating a man who games and I bring him food and sometimes.
Gareth Reynolds
Mrs. Clinton. Nice try.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Don't you get fancy with these words.
Gareth Reynolds
Come on now.
Savannah
Okay. I'm naming a gamer and I.
Jake Johnson
Normal voice. Not a character who's in a weird animated show.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah,
Savannah
Okay. Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Gamer.
Jake Johnson
I'm dating. Yeah, say it normal. Go ahead.
Savannah
Okay. I'm dating a gamer and I bring him burger bowls. And sometimes that scares him.
Gareth Reynolds
Thank you.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
All right. So that's. Thank you for that, Savannah.
Savannah
Okay, I do have. He did say one thing. One potential. And this was not something that we thought of until. Actually, I think one of his friends mentioned this after they found out that I was coming on this podcast to absolutely rip him to shreds. But somebody mentioned a laser pointer.
Gareth Reynolds
What is happening? What are you talking about? Say what you just said again.
Jake Johnson
She wants to have a little light to go like he's a cat. So he sees the red light and then goes like this. Oh, that's my food light.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, guys, cover me. I'm gonna go get my burger bowl.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Get out of here now. Time for the laser light. I'm in a war, God damn it.
Gareth Reynolds
By the way, Savannah, he's deep in a war zone. He's probably gonna think it's just like. It's like a spot.
Jake Johnson
He's gonna get. Ah. Okay, guys, I'm going in the tunnel. Watch my six. Watch my six. Mickey.
Gareth Reynolds
They're tracking me. They're here in real life. Oh, sorry.
Jake Johnson
Hold on. My. That Savannah's doing the light. Savannah, get out of here. I'm terrified. So annoying. Okay, guys, I'm back to army crawling.
Gareth Reynolds
Did you say my mom?
Jake Johnson
Yes. You know what this is? The boys are in the basement playing Dungeons and Dragons, and I'm trying to bring them hand sandwiches. But unfortunately, my son Thad gets so mad at me because I interrupt once. He's fighting the dragon. Hey, boys, I got your Capri suns. Mom, get out of here. I'm being chased by a goddamn dragon, you bitch.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know if I've ever been more excited for comments on this call because I don't know what's coming our way.
Jake Johnson
It's not going to be positive.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay?
Jake Johnson
All right, Bob, can't you see there's a warlock after me?
Gareth Reynolds
By the way, here's what I want to add to the mix. He's got to say. He's got to say, thank you, mom, when he grabs his supper and goes back into his little den of shooting red.
Jake Johnson
Razor light. Got to go.
Gareth Reynolds
Can you bring in grape soda when you have a second mobile?
Jake Johnson
Yeah, boys, put the trolls back under the bridge. Gotta eat meatballs.
Gareth Reynolds
Hey, guys, for the next 10 minutes, let me know if you need me. I'm gonna house this burger bowl real quick.
Jake Johnson
This is crazy.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, you guys.
Savannah
You guys, like, I feel like our relationship was fine. I was getting minimal icks from him from this, and now it's like you guys.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, that's just going downhill. One night a week, you get this room to yourself. You get to put on something, and he brings you something.
Jake Johnson
But do you want this room to yourself?
Savannah
That's the problem. I don't want that because this is our office technically. So it's like I'm just gonna sit at my work computer and want that. I don't know.
Jake Johnson
Here's what I think it is. Here's what I think it is. And here's the real truth of what I think. If he wants to game, let him game. God bless.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
No judgment. Except for the past 30 minutes.
Jake Johnson
But. No, I mean, what. The only thing I don't like about it is him being served and getting scared while he's doing it.
Gareth Reynolds
I agree.
Jake Johnson
I think if you're in a relationship and somebody, then you're both happy.
Gareth Reynolds
Great.
Jake Johnson
The. You called it. Because when you bring him his supper, he gets startled. So it's not the gaming. If he's like, hey, tonight I'm gonna hang with my best friends. It's the way we stay in touch. So from basically seven till midnight, I'm kind of out of commission. You go, like, fun. You could be out in a bar. This is better. So you're doing your thing. Great. So I think those nights you don't go in that room, you don't bring him anything you don't do. He is a thoughtful enough gentleman that you don't have to hear it. The noise canceling is really nice. If you need to interrupt him, you can call him. And maybe he's got a buzzer on his phone, which will definitely startle him, because in a war zone, his buzzer would be off. But you just basically say, unless there's an emergency, I'm not coming in. That is, basically, we are pretending we are not in the same space for those hours. So when you're cooking, you wouldn't cook too if you didn't live with them.
Savannah
Right.
Jake Johnson
Make yourself dinner. You would sit in front of the television or the. What? Whatever you do, you'd eat your meal, put your jammers on, relax, have a glass of wine and go to bed.
Savannah
Wow. Nailed it. Yeah. Crazy.
Gareth Reynolds
I think that that's exactly right.
John / Mitch (different callers)
And.
Gareth Reynolds
And all the roasting is just because. It's a shocking problem because of the startled. It's.
Jake Johnson
It's.
Gareth Reynolds
It's that he gets startled over his meals.
Jake Johnson
It's not. It's. No, but it's also. I'm roasting. Savannah.
Gareth Reynolds
I. I agree. No, it is. It's like you're rehabbing.
Savannah
I'm cool.
Jake Johnson
No, Savannah, it's that you are going like this while he'. Excuse me. Here's your ham with no cross. Baby boy, get out of here. Stop serving him while he's gaming.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, bottom line, at the end of the day, you're into it. He's doing the dishes. You've never filled your water bottle. You feel good about the equality level? I do think we're. We've over catered. And now your boyfriend is going to leave the war zone. When he has a break, he's going to go to the kitchen, slop his
Jake Johnson
own something to eat, bring it in
Gareth Reynolds
there, you don't have to worry about a thing. That's the solution, right?
Savannah
Okay. Yeah, I guess his privileges are taken
Gareth Reynolds
away and he doesn't deserve that. It's not taken away. He. The whole thing is privileged. It's just the cherry on top is going to be earned a little.
Jake Johnson
It's just not going to be served food while gaming.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. The Lord is going to have to make a trip to the servants quarters during the all important battle.
Jake Johnson
So this is actually a pitch for you, Savannah.
Savannah
Mm.
Jake Johnson
Nothing has to change with him.
Gareth Reynolds
No.
Jake Johnson
Right. Stay out of the war zone.
Gareth Reynolds
No girls.
Savannah
Okay. No girls allowed.
Jake Johnson
When he goes in there, he needs to put a sign on the door that says no girls with a Z. That's backwards allowed.
Gareth Reynolds
And the girls is underlined. Yes.
Jake Johnson
By the way, he is in his room. Yeah. No girls allowed.
Gareth Reynolds
I'll eat when I'm hungry.
Jake Johnson
By the way. Maybe that's what we would actually, Savannah, here's my pitch to you because you're gonna want to go in there, you're gonna want to serve baby boy. Make sure his hair is tied up, all right. And make sure everything's perfect. So let's do a thing. You make a sign that says no girls allowed. When he's in that room, you hang it on the door.
Savannah
Right. Myself?
Jake Johnson
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm not allowed.
Jake Johnson
So you go like this. Ah, you know what? I need to tell them that I'm three weeks on a Monday morning. We were thinking of doing that. I'm gonna go and. No girls allowed.
Savannah
No girls.
Jake Johnson
You know what? I just made these little cucumber things that are so good, he probably wants them. I'm good. Nope. No girls allowed.
Savannah
No girls allowed.
Jake Johnson
Savannah, will you make that sign and put it on the door?
Savannah
Yes, I will.
Gareth Reynolds
We want to.
Jake Johnson
Will you take a photo of it and then you'll know it's official. And will you hang it on the nights he's doing it? And guess what? He doesn't even have to know. It's got nothing to do with it. You're not allowed in that room because no girls allowed.
Savannah
All right, I'll make a sign. I'll take a picture. I'll send it to you guys.
Gareth Reynolds
All right. You feel good, Savannah?
Jake Johnson
Yeah, you got it. This is a great.
Savannah
Yeah, you guys really, really saved my relationship here.
Jake Johnson
Thank you so much, Savannah. Now, before we go, will you say, hi, my name is Savannah. I'm a feminist. I'm dating a gamer. I used to bring him dinner while he was in there, but it startled him too much. So now I'm gonna put up a sign that says no girls allowed so that he can game on his own. Put it in your own words. Just go ahead. Whenever you're ready. Thanks.
Savannah
Okay. Okay. Hi, my name is Savannah. I am a feminist, and I'm dating a gamer, as unlikely as it seems. And I'm not going to bring him his meals anymore because there's a sign that says no girls allowed. And I respect the sign.
Gareth Reynolds
Perfect.
Jake Johnson
You killed it. Perfect. Savannah winner.
Gareth Reynolds
Tell this guy we said, what's up?
Savannah
Thank you.
Jake Johnson
Or tell him I'll see him in the war zone later. I tell him my name is. Tell him my name is bad boy 19. No girls allowed. Tell him Gareth's name is get out of here, Mom.
Gareth Reynolds
Get out of here, Mom. Leave the cheese sticks. I tell him I'll see him at the moat later when we storm the castle.
Jake Johnson
Leave the cheese sticks. Mozzarella sticks belong at the door. Mom.
Gareth Reynolds
For the love of God. My finger all greasy. If I eat that right now, you idiot.
Jake Johnson
Leave. Are you nuts? A 2L Dr. Pepper without a cup of ice.
Gareth Reynolds
I'll figure it out. Just close the goddamn door.
Jake Johnson
Just close the goddamn door.
Savannah
Yeah, I'm gonna tell him he got absolutely shredded in front of lots and lots of people, and he'll be thrilled.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, follow up.
Jake Johnson
Getting mad at their moms is so funny.
Gareth Reynolds
Just over the night, like the mother's being angels.
Jake Johnson
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John / Mitch (different callers)
Hello.
Gareth Reynolds
This guy doesn't sound excited.
John / Mitch (different callers)
No, I am. How's it going?
Gareth Reynolds
Sounds like we're his accountant. We were just like, where are the receipts? How you doing, bud? What's your name?
John / Mitch (different callers)
Good. My name is John. How are you?
Gareth Reynolds
How old are you, John?
John / Mitch (different callers)
I am almost 38 and that's part of what I'm calling about.
Gareth Reynolds
John. Did you ever go by Johnny?
John / Mitch (different callers)
When I was a child, but not in the last. Probably 35 years now.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, buddy. Where are you calling from, Josh?
John / Mitch (different callers)
I'm calling from the, the Twin Cities. Minneapolis.
Jake Johnson
Oh my God, the Twin Cities.
Gareth Reynolds
Just. I would. I'm gonna say top five cities.
Jake Johnson
I agree.
Gareth Reynolds
Top five.
John / Mitch (different callers)
I'm a transplant.
Gareth Reynolds
I like it. All so underrated. All right, John. 38, Minneapolis. What can we do?
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yep. All right. So I've got one that I hope is. Well, hope it's not something you guys have gone through, but I hope you might have some expertise on. As I said, I'm almost 38. I'm married, I'm a dad, I live out in the burbs. I've got a job, all the normal yada, yada stuff. But my, my hobby, my fun thing is I play in a punk band. I've been a musician my whole life and we're pretty active. Like, we write songs, we play shows, a lot of fun. And as I'm starting to push 40, as I'm getting old and shitty, I've had to start scheduling chiropractor appointments after my shows.
Jake Johnson
By the way, not punk.
John / Mitch (different callers)
After Practices no. Decidedly unpunk. But, like, you know, I'm not. I'm not gonna headbang. I'm not gonna not jump around during the show.
Jake Johnson
Take care of the spine, brother.
Gareth Reynolds
I love that he's jumping.
Jake Johnson
Well, he had a pokeball, then he's
Gareth Reynolds
go to the chiropractor.
Jake Johnson
I get this.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah, yeah, that's it. So my problem is. And really, to boil it down, I do want to take care of my spine. I'm trying at least, you know, the after the fact stuff, but I'm not gonna like, do yoga in the green room at a shitty dive bar or something.
Jake Johnson
I get this.
John / Mitch (different callers)
I don't. I'm wondering what can I do other than like, drink a couple beers and hope for the best before I play to yoga.
Jake Johnson
But by the way, by the way, you just offended Gareth. You could do yoga and he's a torrent.
John / Mitch (different callers)
I chose my words on purpose. I know what I said.
Gareth Reynolds
Nothing wrong.
Jake Johnson
That's a punk rock response.
Gareth Reynolds
Nothing wrong with a little yoga, but okay, we're on your team if you want to shame yoga. It's only thousands of years old. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
So, John, this is interesting. So the. Let me just boil it down because this is pretty clean. You were a punk rock guy when you were younger. You were in a band. What instrument do you play?
John / Mitch (different callers)
I play bass in this band.
Jake Johnson
Cool. And what's the name of the band you care telling us?
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah, I happily. We're called Rock Barboza. Roc Barboza.
Jake Johnson
Rock Barbos. And what's the significance of that?
John / Mitch (different callers)
I have no idea. One of the other guys came up with it before I joined the band.
Jake Johnson
Cool. So Rock Barboza and you guys play around the dive bars in the Twin Cities area.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yep. I've got a show tomorrow night, so this timing is perfect.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. And so when you and you guys rehearsal. And how serious is the band? Because there's two kind of bands as you get older. And it's the same thing with like, like. And our connection is, you know, when Gareth and I first started, we were in a bunch of sketch comedy groups and comedy troops. So you're in a group, you're in an improv troupe. At first, everyone takes it really seriously. You're rehearsing multiple nights. You think, like, man, we might be on NBC, dude, HBO might buy this. And you might be the state man. You might be Mr. Show. And then, you know, it starts to fade a little bit and then some people go off and leave and other people stick around, and then there's the people who are in their late 30s and 40s who are still doing, you know, the improv shows. And it's four guys in a group called, like, you know, Eric Edelston and I were in a group with us two and these two women called Cookies and Cream.
Gareth Reynolds
Goddamn improv team names are just. It's like a fetish. It's so. It's like potato salad.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Mom's Coleslaw.
Gareth Reynolds
Mom's Coleslaw.
Jake Johnson
And so, you know, we could still be in Cookies and Cream, grinding it out. But then there is the moment when you go, this is never gonna hit. Right? I still love. This is Rock Barbosa. Are you guys still thinking maybe there's a touring life ahead of you, maybe there's a record deal, but you got kids in a job, so for you, are you like, this is just a fun Friday night and one night a week of rehearsal, or where's your head at with it?
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah, great question, man. I would say somewhere in between. I mean, in my younger days, 15 years ago, I was, like, in a signed band. Toured the country in a van with three other. So I've kind of had that life already. I'm like, I'm married, I've got kids. I've got a mortgage. Hey, man. But at least your van's bigger than mine.
Jake Johnson
Keep going, John. That's cool. No.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah, but no. No delusions of grandeur, Jake. I mean, we've done it. We've all got families and kids and careers and stuff. Some of the bands we play with are, like, a little younger than us, and so. Another reason I don't want to be like. Like the lame old dude at the show. But no, you know, we practice, like, once a week. We play shows, we write our own music. It's a active thing. But, yeah. No. No dreams of John.
Jake Johnson
Okay, then I got real advice.
John / Mitch (different callers)
What do you got?
Jake Johnson
You gotta lean into being the old man because there's nothing lamer. And I say this. That's why I started a few years back, leaning into the fact that I'm an old man. There's nothing lamer than pretending you're not something that everybody knows you are. And I'm going to tell you why. Yeah, your back does hurt. You might be balding. Your body doesn't look as good in the tight clothes anymore. You've had way too many chicken nuggets with those kids. You've eaten too many of their junk food right before you throw it out. Your body's changed.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
You're a different guy. Those guys are 24 years old, smoking cigs and doing drugs and sleeping with anybody and everybody and doing these great shows, God bless them, they're living a cool life. That's not your life, but you're in it for the love of the game. So what's actually punk rock is an older guy is doing the Gareth and doing yoga in the green room to protect your back. And then when you get on stage, rocking out so that the young people go, I gotta say, that basis is so good, they go, you know, he toured, man. He was in a signed band. He's the real deal. So let the art be the art, but not be the lifestyle.
Gareth Reynolds
I got a pitch too, that. That can coincide with that. Go ahead.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
I think you guys should write a song called John Has Got a Bad Back. It should be a biographical punk song about how you love to rock still. But, you know, it's like you could. I could definitely hear Sex Pistoly lyrics about John has got a bad back. John has got a bad back. Something like that. And I honestly think that could be a way to get it. You maybe some sort of care. But I think Jake's right. I think lean into it and I think you could write a good little tune about how you have a bad back. You want to rock. You still do. But Jonah's got a bad back. And I'll go one further. You could lean into it and your punk stage name could be Johnny Bad Back. And you could wear like a prop brace.
John / Mitch (different callers)
I will politely probably pass on that last bit. I don't think you're gonna catch me in a back brace. Yep. No offense meant there. But, you know, of course, I think the broader lesson and message of leaning into getting older as I'm pushing 40, I think that's pretty reasonable. But I still don't know, like, you know, I'm not asking for stretching, advising, but what, how I'm not going to, you know, bring a yoga mat. So I don't know what to do. I don't know how to make that even sort of cool while I hold on to my last shred of old man vanity.
Gareth Reynolds
Man, I'll tell you what. I'm friends with this Randy Bly, the guy who gave me my coffee mug that says Gary's mug. He's the lead singer, Land of Lamb of God. He before shows. It is legitimately a warm up for him to do what he does. I mean, he's my age, he's maybe a little younger. And for him to do what he does, he warms up his voice, he Warms up his body. The whole band, I mean, they really take it seriously. Like it happens in all these things when, if you're doing like live shows, this idea that, you know, you gotta have a couple beers before you go out there and all that, like you're there for entertainment of other people. So there's nothing wrong for you to take it seriously and actually do some yoga for you to, you know, do any warm up that you feel right doing. There's nothing weird about that. So, you know, it might feel anti punk because maybe you're sharing a green room with some younger bands or something, but they're going to be 38 too. And I would, honest to God, I would just write a song about a. John has got a bad back that justifies everything that goes on before the show.
John / Mitch (different callers)
I think writing that song's pretty reasonable. I don't. I don't know if we're going to fake the British accent though. And that's no offense to your ancestors, but it's nothing.
Jake Johnson
I mean, I'll tell you what I would do here, John, is. Yeah, I would. And it's not the funny pitch, but I would fully lean into being the old man band.
Gareth Reynolds
I like old man punk band. Old, old.
Jake Johnson
But like pushing 40 in a punk band by nature is not punk.
Gareth Reynolds
Think of Steve Jones, by the way,
Jake Johnson
you're supposed to be dead by now.
John / Mitch (different callers)
True. So I'm surprised I made it this far, man.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, so, I mean, I'm surprised I'm still alive. So at a certain point you gotta go, all right, well, I'm also not drinking a thousand beers and a bottle of vodka because you go, I changed. So, yeah, you still love the art form. So now I would say everything about you guys besides the show, lean in, bring a. I'll tell you what I'm sitting on right now, John.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh God, you still are.
Jake Johnson
Oh, a yoga ball.
Gareth Reynolds
Bring up, bring a foam roller, John, look, Jake's gonna show you now. He's sitting on an exercise ball. One of those big, weird, inflatable.
Jake Johnson
I'll tell you why. I used to have a super cool one, a chair back here. That was that leather chair with. Yeah, it was awesome. You know what happened? My back was hurting because I was sitting too much. So here's what I want you to do, John. Lean into the fact that you're 38 years old. I want you in the green room laying on your back with your legs up.
John / Mitch (different callers)
All right?
Jake Johnson
You know, like a professional athlete when you know a 19 year old kid, they're eating McDonald's before the game and then dropping 40. And then you see, like, Grant Hill, and he's in, like, nine different tubs and getting eight massages.
Gareth Reynolds
Guy stretching him.
Jake Johnson
All that matters is when the game starts or the game finishes.
Gareth Reynolds
Yep.
Jake Johnson
So if you're literally back there doing weird poses and they're laughing at you, let them laugh. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Have a great show.
Jake Johnson
Once starts, Rip, they go like, okay, great. And then after the show, before you go home, go like. I'm doing 40 minutes of stretches in the green room so my back doesn't seize up in the car ride home.
Gareth Reynolds
They'll be there. They will be there one day, I think.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah, I think that's very good advice. I. I don't know that I'm bringing a yoga ball. I think a foam roller or something like that is very feasible.
Jake Johnson
Foam rolls, a tennis ball and do it against the wall.
John / Mitch (different callers)
But.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, lacrosse ball. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
But lean, I would say. Here's the punk rock move. Don't do it subtly and don't do it in, like, a hallway and hide front and center.
Gareth Reynolds
I agree.
Jake Johnson
If someone doesn't like it off, you little twerp.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah, that's a good point. I agree.
Jake Johnson
Move your ass, you little weasel. I'm stretching here.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. I mean, you could be.
Jake Johnson
We're talking about punk rock.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, we are. Sure.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
John / Mitch (different callers)
A little confrontation isn't bad.
Jake Johnson
Not in punk rock. Hey, get your boots off that. Why? And he goes, what's your problem? I'm about to put my foam roller there and stretch my lower back because it's tight.
John / Mitch (different callers)
That's right.
Jake Johnson
Move your steel tip boots, you little punk. I'm putting my yoga mat there. To do some deep stretches, I need
Gareth Reynolds
to sit on my exercise ball. Start playing on an exercise ball. John has got a bad back, Don.
Jake Johnson
He's got.
Gareth Reynolds
Johnny's got a bad back.
Jake Johnson
So what do you think, John? It's not the most fun advice, but it is. It is real. Yeah.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah. No, I think that the. The idea of leaning in is probably a message that I need to hear in a lot of different ways, so I appreciate that. A foam roller, I think, is something I could grab before my show tomorrow night so I can bring it and try it out. The song? Probably not. I. I just. I don't know if that was gonna work out.
Jake Johnson
Yep.
Gareth Reynolds
Someone else will write it. It's gonna get written.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
John / Mitch (different callers)
All right. You can feature on the song when we record it. If you write it, we'll record it with you.
Gareth Reynolds
Fucking done.
Jake Johnson
That'll never happen. That's as much of a Steve Berg moment as I've ever heard.
Gareth Reynolds
I think it could happen.
Jake Johnson
All right, John. We appreciate the call, brother.
Gareth Reynolds
Thanks, John.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yeah, thanks for letting me know. Appreciate the info.
Gareth Reynolds
Hello.
Jake Johnson
Hello.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi there. Follow up, what's your name?
John / Mitch (different callers)
This is Mitch.
Gareth Reynolds
Mitch.
Jake Johnson
Mitch.
Gareth Reynolds
Mitch. What was the first call, Mitch?
John / Mitch (different callers)
I called about the parent that had the laser pointer at my daughter's.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh. Oh, Mitch. This is exciting.
Jake Johnson
Mitch, walk us through what the original problem was. For those who are lazy and don't want to go back to listen, but they should.
Gareth Reynolds
Disgraceful.
Jake Johnson
And then what we pitched and what you did and where we're at.
John / Mitch (different callers)
So my daughter's taekwondo class, when the kids are all outside waiting for the class to start, there's been a parent with a laser pointer and he'll shine it on some of the kids. And then he's like, I don't have a laser pointer. And there's been a couple times where I told him, you know, put the fucking thing away. And he's, I don't have a laser pointer. Nobody's got one here. So I emailed the. The jackass. Yes. I emailed the Taekwondo place, and they were like, well, what's his name? I'm like, what does it matter what his name is? Look for the idiot with the laser points. I'm gonna knock it off or I'll do something. So then I was like, you know what? I'm gonna email these guys and I'm gonna call them and I'm gonna talk to you guys because you guys had some wonderful insights,
Gareth Reynolds
okay? And I remember what we landed on, but why don't you tell everyone what we landed on? And then why don't you let us know what happened?
John / Mitch (different callers)
Great. So what we discussed was. And the one that I thought was, yes, we're doing that. We're going forward with it was purchasing a bunch of laser pointers for the kids and put them in a bucket, and all the kids get laser pointers. Either everybody gets a laser pointer or nobody gets a laser pointer. So I ran that one by my wife, and she said, you are absolutely fine not doing that.
Jake Johnson
Wow.
John / Mitch (different callers)
So I was like, dang it.
Gareth Reynolds
And she said, we're like, friends, and, like, the wife's like the mom. We were in the treehouse coming up with this laser pointer thing. Mitch goes to his wife and our whole call goes down the drain.
Jake Johnson
But what I don't understand why she would say no to that Mitch.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Well, you know, just a bunch of 6 to 13 year olds burning retinas of the children you know, they're ending up shining it on each other and not. Dude. So then she said, what. What other ideas were there? And I said, well, Jake said, what if. What if I got a high lumen flashlight? And she goes, nick Miller coming in clutch.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
John / Mitch (different callers)
So I got it all lined up. One of my buddies has one of those flashlights that it has a convex or conclave lens. So if you get the lens mixed up and you shine it, like, on, like, black paper, it'll start a fire.
Jake Johnson
Jesus.
John / Mitch (different callers)
So that's the flashlight.
Gareth Reynolds
The way, by the way, first of all, laser pointers. Fire flashlight.
John / Mitch (different callers)
My wife has weir boundaries.
Jake Johnson
I will say, Mitch, you are coming in a little bit more aggressive. This call don't hurt anybody.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, let's. Let's not turn this thing.
Jake Johnson
This is.
John / Mitch (different callers)
This is all the good news stuff.
Jake Johnson
Okay, Go.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
John / Mitch (different callers)
This does not end how I wanted it to end. So. Yeah, so talk to you guys the day after, went to class, the chode's not there. Like, where is he? What's going on? So I'm assessing the situation. Like, you know what? I'm just gonna go ahead and I'm gonna do the flashlight. The next day comes, he's not there again. So I was like, what the hell is going on? So I go to the instructor and I say, so where's. Where's. Where's this dad at? And they go, well, came on an off day, and his son was tired of his and started yelling, man child. Man child. That's not my father. That's a man child. So the guy's like, what are you doing?
Jake Johnson
And the kids like, as it gets.
Gareth Reynolds
Mine. Yeah, I could imagine that. Kidding me. That's why I'm getting a vasectomy.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Stop pointing the freaking laser pointer. Yeah. So. Whoa. So they were finally like, oh, wow, this kid really means business. He's disowning his father. So they pulled him aside, and they were like, hey, you know, there's been some parents that have emailed, and they wanted to follow up with me on the. The Tuesday that I went, but I dipped out too quick. They're like, hey, there's been parents. And also now with your son just flipping shit, this has got to stop. So he's like. So they're like. They told him that he is gone for two weeks. He is not allowed to come in at all. He can drop his son off, but he cannot come in to watch practice period.
Jake Johnson
So hold on.
John / Mitch (different callers)
They weren't quiet.
Jake Johnson
Mitch, Mitch, Mitch, Mitch. You said this didn't work out. How you Wanted. This is perfect.
John / Mitch (different callers)
I mean, I wanted to shine him in the face. I wanted to.
Jake Johnson
That's a you thing. That's too aggressive.
Gareth Reynolds
Get the ego out of here.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Okay.
Jake Johnson
All we wanted was the lasers to stop.
John / Mitch (different callers)
And they did.
Jake Johnson
Stopped.
Gareth Reynolds
And you didn't have to have a man on fire with a flashlight that your wife approved. As opposed to having laser pointers in kids hands.
Jake Johnson
So that could have gotten you in trouble, gotten you involved in a world you didn't want to be in. This guy's obviously got some stuff going on at home and now it has nothing to do with you. Problem solved. The academy's fixing it. The laser pointers are done. Our pitches didn't at all. But it's a win.
Gareth Reynolds
It's a win. It's not a bell ring win, but it's a win.
Jake Johnson
It is a bell ring.
Gareth Reynolds
It is a bell ring because you
Jake Johnson
called it with a problem. And the problem's over.
Gareth Reynolds
My cat just. That scared the out of my cat.
Jake Johnson
But Mitch, this is a big win, buddy.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Perfect. That's a good outlook. I mean, I just wanted to blind them, but I. I appreciate you guys. Definitely take it, man.
Gareth Reynolds
What Jake's saying is there's no evidence tracing you to the crime. This is way better. This is like setting up on a rooftop with your assassin's rifle only to find out. Find out. The guy had a heart attack earlier that day.
Jake Johnson
Exactly. Right? Or when you're right about to shoot, he has a heart attack in front of you and you go like, huh? And paramedic. He's pronounced dead.
Gareth Reynolds
Big win.
Jake Johnson
It's over.
Gareth Reynolds
Big win.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. So thank you for the follow up. Congrats. If he comes back and does the lasers, the academy is going to handle it. You.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Don't bring that flashlight. Don't be the problem now.
John / Mitch (different callers)
No.
Jake Johnson
Because the only way you can, the only thing that could happen now, Mitch, is you could lose. And that is, he comes back and you're like, you, dude.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
You're like, whoa. Mitch is weird.
Gareth Reynolds
The kid did the work for you. It's. It's. You've. You've actually lucked out.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
This is a win, Mitch.
Jake Johnson
It's over.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
It's over.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yep.
Jake Johnson
Get out of the hole, brother. It's over. The war is done.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Thank you. Guys. Come home.
Gareth Reynolds
Jake and I are hugging you right now. If we're in person, there's a hug. And Jake, like, Jake's like, come home.
Jake Johnson
But what I'm worried about, and this is what I see, your ear. I'm worried about You. I'm going, like, right now. The war is over, man. Come on.
Gareth Reynolds
This should be where you. You fight a little and then you stop fighting and you start weeping in Jake's shoulder. Yeah, that's what should be happening right now.
Jake Johnson
And where are you at, man?
John / Mitch (different callers)
I got goosebumps. I got goosebumps.
Jake Johnson
Okay, good. So, Mitch, is the war over?
John / Mitch (different callers)
The war is over. I'm coming home.
Gareth Reynolds
Mitch, is the war over?
John / Mitch (different callers)
The war is. The war is done. Gareth.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Come home.
John / Mitch (different callers)
It's done.
Jake Johnson
Come on home.
Gareth Reynolds
Come on home. Mitch
John / Mitch (different callers)
and I have a parade.
Jake Johnson
Hi, Mitch. Thank you for the call.
Gareth Reynolds
Hold on now.
Jake Johnson
I was born on the fourth of July. You're gonna come home, but realize the whole country's wrong.
Gareth Reynolds
It's just.
John / Mitch (different callers)
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
It's over. Okay.
Jake Johnson
All right, we're getting out of here. Mitch, thank you for the call. This is a big win.
Gareth Reynolds
Thanks, Mitch.
John / Mitch (different callers)
All right. Thank you, guys.
Savannah
Hi.
Savannah's Boyfriend
This is Savannah's boyfriend, AKA little gamer baby boy. I have a couple of things to say. One, when she told me what she was going to send to you guys, I told her exactly how you guys were going to respond because I know exactly how it sounds. She said after the recording that it was worse than what she thought, but it was exactly how I thought it was going to go down. Just wanted to put that out there. Two, I was totally fine with Savannah scaring me. It was a small price to pay for a delicious burger bowl being delivered to me while I game. I understand how it looks, and I wasn't gonna fight it, but she was always apologizing to me every time she scared me, and I was just like, I don't care. That's just how my body reacts. And three, I think we're just gonna keep doing the old system because she's developed a widow baby boy gamer boy kink, and I think we're gonna keep that up. So thank you, guys.
Savannah
Take out the last part.
Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
We're Here to Help is produced by Rabbit Grimm Productions Executive producer Producers Rob Hollis, Jeff Porter and Natalie Hollis. Associate producer Jesse Thurston Editing, mix and master by Chris Faller. Theme song by Oliver Raleigh. The COVID artwork is by James FOSDYKE. Animations by Andrew Strelecki. And if you'd like to see Gareth do stand up on the road, go to garethreynolds.com Remember, all the advice given on We're Here to Help is for entertainment purposes only, and all listeners should be adults and make their own decisions.
Savannah
I'm dating a gamer and I bring him burger bowls and sometimes that scares him.
Jake Johnson
That was a Headgum Podcast.
Savannah
Hi, I am Mandy Moore.
Jake Johnson
Sterling K. Brown. And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that Was Us now on Headgum.
Gareth Reynolds
Each episode we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show. This is Us.
Jake Johnson
That's right.
Gareth Reynolds
We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Are we gon. Yes. A little bit. Are we gonna laugh a lot?
John / Mitch (different callers)
A whole lot.
Jake Johnson
That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to. That was Us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify new episodes every Tuesday.
Episode 292: Warzone Burger Bowl & Johnny's Got A Bad Back
Release Date: May 25, 2026
Hosts: Jake Johnson & Gareth Reynolds
In this lively and joke-packed episode, Jake and Gareth deliver their signature blend of earnest (if a little half-qualified) advice and relentless banter to a trio of callers dealing with oddly specific, deeply relatable, and often hilarious problems. The main themes include relationship boundaries around video gaming, aging punk rockers trying to stay healthy, and a follow-up on neighborhood parent drama gone awry. Expect self-deprecating humor about gender roles, gaming culture, middle-aged bodies, and more.
Memorable Quote:
"Would you wax your butthole?" – Jake Johnson (03:25)
Memorable Quote:
"What do you want?" – Jake Johnson (09:54)
Topic: Savannah’s boyfriend gets startled when she brings him dinner while he’s gaming with noise-canceling headphones.
Notable Quotes:
Savannah’s boyfriend leaves a voicemail, proving he predicted the hosts’ reaction perfectly. He insists he finds Savannah’s "startling" fine, values the burger bowls, and even playfully claims she’s developed a "widow baby boy gamer boy kink."
Quote:
"It was a small price to pay for a delicious burger bowl being delivered to me while I game." – Savannah’s Boyfriend (67:42)
Topic: John, 38, still plays in an active punk band, but his back can't handle the pounding. He’s embarrassed to do stretches or yoga around younger bandmates but wants to keep rocking while taking care of himself.
Notable Quotes:
Topic: In a previous episode, Mitch called in about a fellow Taekwondo parent shining a laser pointer at kids. This is his follow-up.
Notable Quotes:
This episode embodies the heart of "We're Here to Help": hilarious takes on low-stakes-but-real dilemmas, delivered with quick wit and just enough sincerity. Whether it’s deconstructing relationship roles in the context of video gaming, honoring the realities of aging as a hobbyist rockstar, or helping a persistent parent let go of a playground grudge, Jake and Gareth manage to roast, comfort, and entertain all at once.
Listeners will come away with:
For more practical and impractical wisdom—with plenty of tangents and characters—listen to the full episode!