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Jake Johnson
This is a Headgum podcast.
Gareth Reynolds
This is a Headgum podcast.
Kiara Goldberg
And we are back, Jake.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, this is not, oh, we are back. This is an ad.
Kiara Goldberg
No, this is an intro.
Jake Johnson
Look at you.
Kiara Goldberg
That. We've really flipped. You're a real me.
Gareth Reynolds
You have been really dry. You know, I was thinking about you late last night, Gareth.
Kiara Goldberg
This is a great start.
Gareth Reynolds
I've been impressed with you, Jake. I really liked the shifting in our dynamic. And then I was thinking, well, you and I were talking, and you're like, we've both always been the same type.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
And you're like, I always do what you do in most of my relationships.
Kiara Goldberg
Well.
Gareth Reynolds
And now I'm seeing it, and I'm like, take the reins, big daddy.
Kiara Goldberg
I thought that about you. I genuinely was like. When we first started, I was like, I've never seen anything like this guy. I was like, it's crazy.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, GR. Back at you and I have been, as we've talked about, the evolution and the changing of this show is that we are on our own journey. We hope the audience stays with us, but it is fun for us. And this phase, man, I am really liking the Gareth Reynolds era.
Kiara Goldberg
Well, we'll.
Gareth Reynolds
You know what? You snipped your testicles. You took away the ability to have kids.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
And you have really become.
Kiara Goldberg
Well, now.
Gareth Reynolds
Of the podcast.
Kiara Goldberg
I was just going to say the pod became the kid. The cod.
Gareth Reynolds
This is. Became the baby. This is what we were all waiting for. If you accidentally knocked up some girl at, like, a gas station outside of, like, Highly likely.
Kiara Goldberg
There was 15 years where that was a highly likely.
Gareth Reynolds
Garrett gets the old call where he's like, hey, y', all, this is Stacy. There's a little ginger that just popped out of me. It's got a perm.
Kiara Goldberg
I don't have red hair. There's no. Perms are not genetic. And I didn't even have one. Goodbye, Stacy.
Gareth Reynolds
It's wearing a little vest he got from Target.
Kiara Goldberg
Well, this is sounding a little more like it might be mine.
Gareth Reynolds
The first, by the way.
Kiara Goldberg
I'll try to fit in. I'll try to fit in that little vest.
Gareth Reynolds
I'll try to fit. That's what it said. It got out and made a joke about trying to fit back into that little vest.
Kiara Goldberg
It came out. It did the Ace Ventura waft and sign and said it was woo me in there. Something like that. We don't even need to do DNA. That one's mine.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. It also had a little handheld microphone.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah, well, yeah. Where are you from? What do you Do. That's the first words. Turns around to the mom. Where are you from? What do you do?
Gareth Reynolds
Starting to do an instant crowd work, y'.
Kiara Goldberg
All.
Gareth Reynolds
This one's work.
Kiara Goldberg
Hacky crowd work. Not organic, just stiff. We're here to talk about Maximum Pleasure, Guaranteed. Which is out.
Gareth Reynolds
We are.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah. That's what we're gonna do on this one. And our guest today is Kiara Goldberg. She's on the show. She's great on the show. The show is. You were on Kimmel promoting the show.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. So the show is on. It's currently on Apple. I highly recommend I ask everybody to watch it. We are going to have a bunch of the. The great cast from that show are going to join us. Kara's great. She's also so funny on our show. She and Charlie hall really pop on that Maximum Pleasure, guaranteed. They have a great arc together. It's just a great show. I hope everybody in this base checks it out on Apple. And also, if you just turn it on.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Because the way the metrics work now is they literally count hours of streams.
Kiara Goldberg
Let's ask this now with the Nielsen. Nielsen rating box used to be the way.
Gareth Reynolds
No, that's exactly right.
Kiara Goldberg
Dumbest. What is weirder which system is. Because the truth is, you can't really figure it out properly, but the Nielsen one was crazy. They would send strangers a box to just basically say what they watched, and that would count as a hundred thousand people or some.
Gareth Reynolds
Was that based off a guy whose last name was Nielsen?
Kiara Goldberg
I believe so.
Gareth Reynolds
Did, like, Jerry Nielsen create the Nielsen box and then just give it his family name?
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah, it must be. I would think it was. Yeah, it was a meter. Yeah. They would send you a literal black box.
Gareth Reynolds
Incredible.
Kiara Goldberg
But now. But you're right. It is so strange now. So people should just put it on. But you're gonna want to watch it.
Gareth Reynolds
Honestly. It's a good show.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
So, you know, I. I am not the lead of the show. Tatiana Maslany is. I've never seen somebody who does. You know, you and me are such sweaty actors. And what I mean by that, like, our whole group is. And. And that is we can't believe we've been invited to the circus. And we sure like this circus treats. And please don't kick us out of the circus. We're all Willy Lowman.
Kiara Goldberg
Oh.
Gareth Reynolds
And that is every single take I'm going to do is going to really try to be usable. And hopefully you got what you want. If you need something else, let me bang my head into a concrete wall without Question.
Kiara Goldberg
Well, don't forget, I'm the guy who jumped out of the window, broke my pinky.
Gareth Reynolds
That's exactly right.
Kiara Goldberg
Remember the dog bit my ass, Right?
Gareth Reynolds
What was that again?
Kiara Goldberg
I was playing. I had broken my pinky. You and Evan were playing basketball. I was watching you like a kid with a cast on my arm from, like, a window during summer. And so when you guys went inside to go do stuff, I started dribbling the basketball, and there was this little dog outside, and so I was kind of boxing the dog out and kind of playing, and the dog literally.
Gareth Reynolds
Hold on. Who were you showing off for?
Kiara Goldberg
Nobody.
Gareth Reynolds
There's no way you were boxing out the dog alone, Gareth. That's not.
Kiara Goldberg
I was like. Just, like, having a. This was one minute, and then a bunch of hot girls up top. It doesn't matter, but. But the dog jumped up, bit my ass, and I was like, oh, that's smarts. And I did what I never thought I'd do is I put my hand on my back to check for blood, and there was blood, so I had to come back in. And everyone was like, how's the finger? And I was like, fingers, okay, My bottom's bleeding. Everyone was like, this guy's. Talk about Willy Loman would look at me and be like, this is pathetic. Anyway, Kiara Goldberg, great guest. Maximum pleasure, guaranteed. Go on. It's on apple right now. Go watch it. Like Jake said, just watch it. But for whatever reason you have an aversion, just put it on. Don't be.
Gareth Reynolds
Did you say. Did you say after a dog bit your ass? That's smarts. That's merch, brother. That's smart. So if you ever. Anybody gets hurt, whenever you're by yourself, if you, like, stub your toe, say out loud, that's smart. And then if anybody looks at you, go. I had to do the Reynolds technique.
Kiara Goldberg
Had to pull the Reynolds back there.
Gareth Reynolds
The Reynolds is saying, that's smarts after an injury, and you're allowed to do that alone. So if you get hurt alone, go, ah, that's smart. Then go, ah, Reynolds.
Kiara Goldberg
It helps. I'm gonna be following ridiculousness on MTV with that smarts.
Gareth Reynolds
Ridiculousness. What a show that was.
Kiara Goldberg
Enjoy. Without further ado, enjoy the show, everybody.
Gareth Reynolds
Check out our show on Hulu. It drops a day early, and there's also back catalog episodes.
Kiara Goldberg
That's right. So we're here to Help. Is now on Hulu a day early. If you want to listen to the back catalog, we're dropping those from season one and season two. Just join Us. Let's go. Say it, Jake.
Gareth Reynolds
This episode of the podcast is brought to you by booking dot com.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Calm.
Gareth Reynolds
Buddy's great. It's easy to use. You just said where you're staying.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
You just. I. I can't help but imagine that if you. You just had Eve going on a cross country trip with a man named
Gareth Reynolds
Rick, And I used booking.com to book Rick and Eve.
Kiara Goldberg
I mean, that is just.
Gareth Reynolds
You know what? My brother and I have started calling as of this mother. Chopper 5 called me this morning and we talked for 45 minutes and I was cry laughing absolutely. Honestly, it was the hardest I've laughed, I think in over 12 months. He was on such fire this morning. We are he. We're referring to eve now. Is Ms. Evie good? And he was doing a voice of what Ms. Evie likes and what Ms. Evie doesn't like. Gareth. It was good. And I'll tell you, Ms. Evie doesn't like Rick.
Kiara Goldberg
No, Ms. E, she don't like Rick. Is she still holding a grudge to Rick who drove her across the country? It's still coming up. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Kind. It comes out. The new grudge is me. Ms. Evie's not happy with Jake. I'm the new Rick.
Kiara Goldberg
Why?
Gareth Reynolds
I'm too controlling.
Kiara Goldberg
Oh, my God. Well, it's nice to be controlling. Like when you use booking.com, it's important. Listen, you got. You got kids, you're traveling with, you got your gr. Your parents you're traveling with. Whatever you're doing. Let's say you want a big kitchen. Let's say your friend with a lisp talked a big game, even though his S's sounded like ths. And he says that he could cook you a great meal. So you're getting a booking.com so that you can have a competition to prove that he doesn't know what he's talking about and he's just out of his mind. All things you can do if you want to. If you want a vacation home, you want a hotel, you want a rental, whatever you want, you can get it@booking.com.
Gareth Reynolds
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Kiara Goldberg
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
And they're like, dude, you want a sausage? And I Realized they have trash sausage. I'm like, I'm not eating.
Kiara Goldberg
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Gareth Reynolds
Me too. Yeah, I didn't used to be.
Kiara Goldberg
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Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I do have a grill.
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Kiara Goldberg
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Gareth Reynolds
I'm trusting them less and less. I think we are going in a direction. I'm now talking about privatizing more and more and staying away from anything that is big business. And so any company that jumps up that you can trace where their food comes from, I highly recommend.
Kiara Goldberg
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Gareth Reynolds
Hey, Gilly. Anything to take us out?
Kiara Goldberg
Well, I'll tell you what, Jake. Over the years, it feels like grilling is a way to connect. Food is a way of expressing love. That's what Steve.
Gareth Reynolds
Thanks so much, Gil.
Kiara Goldberg
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Gareth Reynolds
I have to say, I am shocked. We have not used Zazzle for this show yet. Now that we are reading this ad together, you can make custom mugs, tote bags, cards, phone case and send it to something we've had so many People like, we've made hats. So the woman who had cancer. Why the stink eye?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
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Kiara Goldberg
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Gareth Reynolds
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Kiara Goldberg
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Gareth Reynolds
Yes, let's. I have an idea. Gareth. Side competition with Zazzle. You do. You make some stuff, I'll make some stuff. We'll present it that.
Kiara Goldberg
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Gareth Reynolds
Hello.
Kiara Goldberg
Hi. How are you?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Good. How are you?
Gareth Reynolds
Good.
Kiara Goldberg
Welcome to the show. Can we get your name, please?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yes, it's Anna.
Kiara Goldberg
Anna. Anna, where are you calling from?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Seattle, Washington.
Kiara Goldberg
Beautiful.
Gareth Reynolds
That's cool.
Kiara Goldberg
That is cool. How old are you, Anna? Roughly?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I am 33.
Kiara Goldberg
Perfect. Well, Anna, not gonna lie to you. It's not just Jake and I. So get ready. We have not gonna lie. We have from the hit Apple show.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, not yet. It comes out soon.
Jake Johnson
Soon to be hit.
Kiara Goldberg
It's soon to be somewhere. It's out somewhere.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
No, not yet.
Kiara Goldberg
The way I like to look at it. No, no, no. It's out. And we have Kiara Goldberg from the show Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed here on Kiara.
Gareth Reynolds
Will you tell Anna a little bit about our show? Maximum Pleasure guaranteed coming Wednesday, May 20th on Apple. What do we got here?
Jake Johnson
It's a comedic thriller. There is murder, there is soccer moms, there is camboys, there's Jake Johnson, there's me and all of our friends.
Gareth Reynolds
Pretty good pitch, actually.
Kiara Goldberg
I like it. I did, too. Soccer moms and Camboys.
Gareth Reynolds
By the way, that's actually kind of a clean pitch. Anna, what is going on today? What can we help you with today?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
So I'm needing help with a issue between my husband and I. Last year, for my birthday, I asked him to build me a library, and he did. And then I asked to have a rolling ladder put in, because what girl who has a library doesn't want a rolling ladder? And he gave Me a ton of excuses as to why we couldn't have a rolling ladder, but his biggest thing was is that I'm really clumsy and he's worried that I'm going to fall off this ladder and break my face like he did. So.
Kiara Goldberg
Okay, so there's some logistical questions. Is there anything else you want to get out there before we start asking how big your library is?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
So. And his solution, I would say was to just get me a step stool, which in my opinion is just as unstable as a ladder, and I cannot reach the top of the library shelf with the stool, so. Right. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
All right. Anna, do we have any photos of this library?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I did not send any in. No.
Kiara Goldberg
How big is it?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
It's not super big. It's probably a medium sized room.
Kiara Goldberg
It's its own room.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yes. Okay.
Kiara Goldberg
Okay, Things are good.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, first of all, this is. I mean, let's give a little. What do we call in your husband here?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
His name is Tristan.
Gareth Reynolds
Tristan. So Tristan built you a library in your home?
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Wow.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
He did? Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, well, that's cool. And so when you. Yeah, go ahead.
Jake Johnson
No, I'm just curious. Is that. So the issue is. Yes, library promise was kept. Ladder promise was not. That's what we're talking about. Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Yes. And then the specific question going off of that is, what? How do we get him to give you a ladder?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yes, exactly.
Kiara Goldberg
Are you. When you talk about a ladder, are you talking about one of those old schooly wheelie duty ladders? Yes, yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Library ladder. And I got to say, Anna is dead right. If you have a library in your house, you need one of those ladders that connects and you can. Yes.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah, that is. It's.
Gareth Reynolds
You get on the side, you do like the leg push like you're on a scooter and you just go around. That's exactly now. Exactly that one.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
When you say your husband broke his face, what do you mean?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
So we were longboarding because that's what we do. And he went down a hill way too fast and lost control and slammed on the pavement and broke his face.
Gareth Reynolds
Walk me through what longboarding is. I thought that was surfing. And then you said hill.
Jake Johnson
It's like a long skateboard.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, it's long skateboard. Okay.
Kiara Goldberg
Fucking crazy.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, so he will let you longboard downhills, but he doesn't trust you on a ladder in your own home reaching for a book.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yep, pretty much.
Jake Johnson
So he's. He hurt himself. Where does you being clumsy come? Like, where's. Did you break your face?
Gareth Reynolds
It's a good question.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Nope. Things. I've just fallen, you know, and, yeah, I'm just clumsy.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, hold on. Something's not adding up for me on this gumbo. So there we go. You know, we're chefs here, and I'm not one of those chefs who's a science. The science guy.
Kiara Goldberg
Right. You're not a science chef.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm gonna throw the salt and pepper in and then put my finger in the gumbo and taste it.
Jake Johnson
Measure with your heart.
Gareth Reynolds
Measure with my heart.
Kiara Goldberg
So. Right. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Your husband and you longboard downhills. He's cool with that?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
He fell off, smashed up his face.
Kiara Goldberg
He.
Gareth Reynolds
You said to Tristan, I want a library. He said, you got it, girl. He built you a library in your house in Seattle. Then you said, I want one of those cool ladder things. He said, no, I'm gonna give you a little stepping ladder. And he goes, why? And he goes, because you're clumsy. And then he goes, all right, let's go longboard down this big hill together.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
This gumbo don't taste right. Why would he let you go on a little board with wheels, but not on a ladder with wheels that's stationary, that's connected to a wall? To reach for a goddamn book. Anna, what's happening here? What are we missing in this story?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, I know. I mean, honestly, I think he's just worried because I. I can longboard totally fine. I'm really good at it. But I think just even, like, walking around the house, I will trip over nothing. Like, there will be nothing on the floor, and I just trip on my feet. So I think that's where his concern comes from.
Gareth Reynolds
So tell them. Tell him the name. The ladder, the longboard. It's got wheels on it. You're better on wheels.
Jake Johnson
That good? That's good.
Gareth Reynolds
Like a long board in the. The library.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
That. I like that. That's a good idea.
Jake Johnson
That's good. I. I think that the. The longboard and there, like, there are probably so many things that you do that are more dangerous than the latter. So what I'm hearing is that it's the, like, the mundane that we're worried about you getting hurt on, but argument to be made, you standing on your tiptoes to try and reach a really high book. More dangerous. More dangerous than a ladder? Because a ladder is meant to help you retrieve something up high that you can't reach.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Anna, walk me through what he has said. What's his logic here?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
He. Well, so his biggest thing is the shelves aren't totally like, into the wall. I don't know, like, bolted in. So I think he's worried there.
Gareth Reynolds
You're on something and pull the whole library down.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Exactly. Yes. Yeah. And I think that's probably his biggest thing. And then he also said they're expensive, too. Like, the ladders are.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, so, Anna, the gumbo is tasting a little bit better now.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah, there's a flavor. Anna, did he change after his longboard face smash?
Gareth Reynolds
You mean physically or.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
Did he become more paranoid about accidents?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yes, yes. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, and when did this injury happen?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
It's been three years ago.
Gareth Reynolds
Does he look different?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
No, no. He had to turn his nose. Like, he had to reshape his nose himself. That's what the doctor told him to do. Yeah.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
So. Yeah. But this is starting to get a little bit more interesting because, Anna, what I'm. What I'm leaning towards, and this is a man who builds some stuff on my own, is he's not worried about you. You're the excuse. Because if he lets you longboard. Right. You see what I'm saying?
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
He doesn't want you pulling on that library because it's a goddamn house of cards. Because he knows he didn't do a great job with it.
Kiara Goldberg
I think there's something with that. Absolutely.
Gareth Reynolds
But once you're on a ladder, if you start to fall, you reach for something, you just pull, and all of a sudden he's like, I'm telling you, I did an okay job. Yeah, but this can't sustain the weight of a woman falling off a ladder.
Kiara Goldberg
Well, there's also, like, I got my mother one of those weird cl. Remember when you were a kid, you had that little, like, claw grabby thing? I got my mother one of those, and she loves it. It's psychotic, but she loves it. But that is the logistical solution. But you're looking for.
Jake Johnson
She wants solution to be the latter, though, right?
Gareth Reynolds
That's exactly right.
Kiara Goldberg
I have a pitch, and it's not a lie. My pitch, Anna, is that you start building the worst wheelie library ladder in the history of library ladders. You're taking matters into your own hand. And when he looks at it, he sees a broken face for sure. So he has to step in with a safer library ladder.
Gareth Reynolds
That's a pretty good.
Jake Johnson
That's really good. That's really good.
Kiara Goldberg
So you're in there hammering away, putting wheels on, and you're going, I don't think they need to be the same kind of wheel. Like, it's fine. It can look like one of those Old timey bikes. You know where it had the big front, the small back.
Gareth Reynolds
You know what you could also do, Gareth? I like this pitch a lot. You could go on Craigslist and say you are looking to buy a homemade library ladder and start telling him a bunch of different builders have thrown ideas out at you and you're excited about them.
Kiara Goldberg
Yep.
Gareth Reynolds
Making it a little.
Jake Johnson
He'll want to be the one to build a threatening.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, because you like that. Well, I built the library.
Jake Johnson
Right. Well, the loose library.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
You could also say this library.
Kiara Goldberg
You could also say that you've sent some pictures to these Craig Lists builders and they're flagging the library a little bit. Oh, you know.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
Well, I think that what we're saying is make him feel a little more insecure. Like he has to take matters into his own hands and fix it. Step up.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, I like that. I liked it a lot. And I think it could work too. I do think it would work.
Gareth Reynolds
So walk us through how it could work, Anna.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I think he would just be like, yeah, no, I. I'm not letting some random person build you ladder or you're not going to be building a ladder on your own. Like I'm gonna do that. Because he does take pride in the fact that he built this library for me. So I think him building the ladder himself to the way he likes will just. It will spark that in him to want to do it, I think.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Here's a classic one too. Do you have the footstool ladder currently in there?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Fall off it.
Kiara Goldberg
You definitely can.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I have actually, already. I've been a couple of times.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. No, but I mean, yeah, we want the.
Kiara Goldberg
I've fallen and I can't get up late.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Get a neck brace because it's not. And then say, I need something that is connected to the wall because I started reaching.
Kiara Goldberg
By the way, who the. Who is reading books on this level? I mean, this is a. You are looking to get top shelf books. How regularly
Gareth Reynolds
of a reader, honestly, did the.
Jake Johnson
Did he use a ladder to put the books on the top shelf?
Gareth Reynolds
Good question.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
No, he's tall enough. He's tall enough to read it. I'm just short again.
Kiara Goldberg
I'm. I love how. Look, you're quite studious. That's great. If I had a library, here's one thing you'd never hear from me. I need to get a book. Why not every time? Why not keep asking him to go in there and. And get the top shelf book for you? That's his life. Hell and Then when he starts getting. That could be the chronology. You're getting him in there to go grab the books. He gets annoyed. That's it. I went on Craigslist, I'm hiring a builder, or I'm building the ladder myself, and it's going to look janky as shit.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Oh, I like that approach, actually, because he gets sick of getting the book and therefore. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
I like that approach every day. You're like, honey, can you get the almanac?
Gareth Reynolds
Take a long board and take duct tape and put a ladder and duct tape it to a long board, okay? And then he's gonna go, what are you doing? And you're gonna go, it just gives me a little bit more height. And then literally get like a stack of dictionaries. And he's like, are you an idiot? And you're like, I need a live. I need a ladder, and you won't build it. So I'm just going to use two long boards, 10 dictionaries.
Kiara Goldberg
Now this is.
Gareth Reynolds
She's gonna go, you're. You're insane. He goes, build me a library or I'm getting up.
Kiara Goldberg
This is a. This is right. Okay, but what you have to do is hang in there because he's going to start looking at you like, who did I marry? You have to hang in there so that he will take matters into his own hand. But the second that he sees you duct taping a ladder to a long board, he's going to be. He's going to be puzzled. Okay, we're all going to be puzzled, but you've got to hang in there and be like, I don't know what else to do. I like the top shelf books for some reason, more than the regular books. I don't know why we built it like that, but I'm duct taping a fucking ladder to a longboard because I need to get those top shelf books.
Gareth Reynolds
I'll tell you also why I don't think he wants to do this. Why It's a ton of work.
Jake Johnson
It's pain, right?
Gareth Reynolds
Because what you got to build, Anna, just to talk it. Go ahead.
Jake Johnson
Well, no, maybe then that's the. That's. You're gonna help that, like, instead of the like, I'm gonna do this or else you're not gonna make it. She can't be like, let me do it.
Gareth Reynolds
Then it might be more work for
Jake Johnson
him to fix her ladder.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know. Anna, are you good at building?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
No, not really.
Kiara Goldberg
Do you have a book on how to build a ladder on that top Shelf. The irony.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I don't know, I don't actually have one.
Gareth Reynolds
So here's what I actually think you need to do. Here's my final pitch and then let's all go around, give our final pitches and then Anna, it's on you. But I think this is a tricky situation because also I think he doesn't want to do it because not only does he have to get a ladder, but he's then got to build that connecting piece, the track. Then the track has to be on from the top and the bottom. And I don't know if it's a straight wall or there's connecting walls, but he might have to build a track that has like a U to it. Yeah, this is hard stuff. And this might be above his pay grade in a way where he's like the track man. Right. Because all a library is is shelves. To call a bunch of shelves a library. I could build a quote unquote library. I can't do the track, I can't do the track in the ladder takes you from being a home builder to a pro.
Jake Johnson
All a library is is shelves. Jake Johnson. That's it. That's it.
Gareth Reynolds
All a dyi if you, you build it yourself. Look, I got a library right here. I got a mini library right here. You see these three coasters? Put books on them. That's a library. But it's not because it doesn't have a connecting.
Kiara Goldberg
So what is your, your final pitch is what?
Gareth Reynolds
Truthfully?
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
I think you got to fall. I really in my heart of hearts say I, I fell. And I think you go to a CVS or a pharmacy and you get a neck brace and he comes home and you go, I'm reaching too much for him. I need a connecting library. And if, if you can't do the ladder, I need to hire somebody who'll do it and I'll obviously pay for it.
Kiara Goldberg
I, okay, Kiara, you want to go with your.
Jake Johnson
I just, I, I, I love the theatrics of that plan. I just worry if she gets hurt again, truthfully or not, she's not going to get a ladder because that's, that's his, his concern. So if she's, if she is like, see, can't let her climb if she's
Gareth Reynolds
in a down the top shelves.
Jake Johnson
Well, I think it's just like your, your, your neck is broken. You're not getting books from the top shelf for a little bit. Babe.
Gareth Reynolds
Let's make a grown up decision here, pal. Let's watch Maximum Pleasure.
Jake Johnson
I think my I like the. The going. The outsourcing of having someone, okay, build it. I think that's. That feels strongest to me.
Kiara Goldberg
I'm going to say, I think you for sure should probably stop reading so much and watch Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed a little bit. But what are you doing? You're making us all feel real stupid. I'm going to go with my first. I think you go to Lowe's, grab a bunch of, like, grab four weird wheels that are not going to line up properly, a ladder, and he comes home, and you're hammering away saying you've taken matters into your own hands.
Gareth Reynolds
This is interesting.
Kiara Goldberg
And. And you're trying to build the ladder. You don't know what you're doing, but somebody's got to do it. God damn it. You like those books? Again, we're reshuffling the books on a lower shelf. For some reason, you have a penchant for going for those top shelfers. You're building the ladder on your own. And I will say, also, Jake, we're going to ask you for. At any point when you're giving him the update, whether you've hurt yourself or whether you're building your own or whether you're outsourcing, we're going to need an audio file. We're going to need you to wear a wire.
Gareth Reynolds
So, Anna, now you got to tell us what you're actually going to do. Don't worry about the creative of the show. Worry about your ladder. How are you going to get this done?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I think that the one that's going to hit him the most is if I build it myself or try to start building myself. I think he'll be like, oh, no, I'm taking matters into my own hands. You can't do that. I love it.
Gareth Reynolds
Me, too.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
And so here's what we need you to do. This is a tab. Pay the tab. So for the first 290 episodes of this show, we would just give people free advice and then say, like, if you feel like it, here's what we need you to do. To pay the tab, you got to take photos of the ladder as you're building it. If you have inspiration photos, we need to see what you're doing. And then we would love to see when he takes over what he does.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Make sure what you're doing, in my opinion, is it has to be realistic. You got to be right on the line of. It's got to be real, but it has to be a terribly unsafe idea.
Kiara Goldberg
Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Where he goes.
Kiara Goldberg
Where.
Gareth Reynolds
Where I. What What I want him to do is say to you and go, this is a nice design. And in his head go, where is her brain? She's gonna die. Like, I'm talking about a ladder in the middle. You go, like. But then maybe I could, like, fold it up again. And he goes, how? And you go, I don't know, like a lever or something. And then I could, like, walk from that point to that point across the room. And he goes, what?
Kiara Goldberg
I think. I think he's exactly right, Ana. We want to have the air of believability, but pay the goddamn tab. So we're going to need pictures and we would love audio for when he's trying to figure out what the hell's happened to his lovely W. Okay, I can do that. Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, thank you for the call.
Kiara Goldberg
All right, keep us posted.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Thank you.
Jake Johnson
Bye.
Kiara Goldberg
We're reading so much. Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
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Kiara Goldberg
Hello.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Hi.
Kiara Goldberg
Hi. Can we get your name please?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
My name is Ashley.
Gareth Reynolds
Hi, Ashley.
Kiara Goldberg
Where are you calling from?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Calling from Vancouver.
Kiara Goldberg
Beautiful. Our guest, I'm not gonna lie, we have a guest helper who lit up when she heard Vancou from the soon to be hit Apple show. Maximum pleasure guaranteed. We have Kiara Goldberg joining us. So you've got Jake, myself Kiara. Kiara, Vancouver connection.
Jake Johnson
I. I sometimes live in Vancouver.
Gareth Reynolds
My.
Jake Johnson
My family is from B.C. or you're in Vancouver, Canada or Washington. This could be different.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Canada. Canada.
Jake Johnson
Okay.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah. Cool.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, ladies, talk about locations. Where in Vancouver, like where in Vancouver
Jake Johnson
are you calling from?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
A neighborhood is Mount Pleasant.
Jake Johnson
I love Mount Pleasant.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Me too. It's the best.
Jake Johnson
It really, really is.
Gareth Reynolds
What's the best restaurant in Mount Pleasant? Let's give it a shout out.
Jake Johnson
The best restaurant.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. Well, I live right across the street from Como Taparia, which is a really nice.
Jake Johnson
Oh my God, I love that place.
Gareth Reynolds
Is this true?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I know, it's so good.
Kiara Goldberg
Oh wow. Shout out Como Taparia.
Gareth Reynolds
Incredible.
Kiara Goldberg
Okay.
Jake Johnson
It's like Spanish tapas. It's so good.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, it's amazing. Tin fish. Spanish papas.
Kiara Goldberg
Did you say tin fish? As a Top selling point.
Jake Johnson
Tinned fish.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Tinned fish? Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
You're eating fish from a tin at
Gareth Reynolds
a place, at a restaurant or under a bridge.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Well, either or, you know, on a tree.
Gareth Reynolds
It's like. It's an. It's amazing. We drink a burgundy out of this huge jug, and then we all eat. It's awesome.
Kiara Goldberg
You drink ale from an open bucket. We're eating tin fish. Shout out to Covid.
Gareth Reynolds
The beauty is you go to the bathroom. Right? The same railroad car.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Exactly, Exactly.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, Ashley.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Convenience.
Gareth Reynolds
Ashley Vancouver, you like a tin fish. What do we got?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay, so I'm calling today because I need help shooting my shot with my eye surgeon.
Gareth Reynolds
I love this.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
So the story is, like, about a year ago, I had to get eye surgery for, like, a recurring thing I've had since childhood. And in my first meeting with the surgeon, I was like, oh, hey, the surgeon is my age. Which made me feel a little bit old, because I was like, am I old enough to have gotten a specialized medical degree? The answer is yes,
Gareth Reynolds
This is a real age.
Kiara Goldberg
Going to the doctor, leaving, depressed because you didn't become a doctor, but that's a real age.
Gareth Reynolds
When all of a sudden you go like, oh, all the professional grownups are my age or my age?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
You're like, whoa.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah. Like, how did that happen?
Kiara Goldberg
Open your sardines and have a bite in there.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Literally. That was when I was eating the tinfish under a bridge.
Kiara Goldberg
Like, okay, all right.
Gareth Reynolds
So you.
Kiara Goldberg
You see him. Okay, keep going.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So, you know, we have a few appointments. I develop a bit of a crush. I think there's maybe, like, a little bit of a vibe there, but I don't know if that's just because he's friendly.
Gareth Reynolds
You're giving so much. Hold on, Ashley. You're giving so much good stuff. I have to jump in. First of all, what was the thing you had a reoccurring, I think. Let's get a backstory.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Oh, oh, okay. So it's this thing where one or both of your eyes can sit off center. I called it my wonky eye.
Gareth Reynolds
One eye is kind of like going off. And this surgery corrects it. So it keeps the both eyes in place.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Correct. So it's usually a surgery you have, like, in infancy or as a child.
Gareth Reynolds
Right.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
And I did have that as a child, as a 12 year old. And then I had to. I basically, the eye went back to where it was originally, and I had to get it corrected again.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, and how is this surgery?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
It's a day Surgery. But it does. Like, my eye looked insane. Like, it looks crazy. Like, the whites of your eye looks, like, all red and yellow and puffy for a while. It's gross. And then. But the healing process took like, what, three weeks or a month or whatever. And then it's back to normal. And then.
Kiara Goldberg
So it's back.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
You don't have a long feel good? Oh, yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
All good.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
All good.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. And then the other thing, Ashley, what is around your age in this doctor's age?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Oh, I'm 35.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. And then one other thing. When you say vibage, walk us through what that means.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I don't know. Okay. So, you know, I'm. I'm coming into the appointment with very much the same type of energy I have right now. Like, I'm friendly, needed to talk to. But then this guy is also friendly and easy to talk to, which sometimes is not the case when you're talking to a doctor. You know, like, sometimes your experience with a doctor is like, they just want to get you out of there. Right.
Kiara Goldberg
I'm gonna diagnose both these people with Canadian,
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
perhaps. Perhaps.
Kiara Goldberg
Okay, keep going.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Anyway, like, I'm. I'm hitting him with the. What's up, doc? I'm, you know, talking about how.
Kiara Goldberg
Sorry. I'm sorry. What do you mean? You're literally doing the Bugs Bunny.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, I'm doing the Bugs. Funny. When I come into his room for
Kiara Goldberg
the appointment, eating a carrot. Okay, all right, keep going.
Gareth Reynolds
How's he responding to what's up, doc?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
He laughs. He laughs. He thinks it's funny.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay, that's a good start.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
And then, like, you know, I'm talking about the wonky eye. I go in for a. For a post op appointment when my eye is still looking kind of crazy and I am still in the healing process, and I talk about how I look like a horror movie right now, you know, and he's, like, laughing about it and he's like, yeah, you know, it's just. I don't really know how to describe the vibe.
Gareth Reynolds
But you guys are joking. You're able to make a joke about the situation and he's able to laugh.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Correct.
Gareth Reynolds
That helps us.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
I got my first pitch really fast.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Oh, okay.
Gareth Reynolds
It's just. It's early, but just in terms of the tone. And then we're going to get back into it. You go, hey, doctor, now that this eye's not walking wonky, I can see straight, and I like what I see. Let me take this hunk out to dinner.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
You know, when I First walked in, I didn't see you. I just saw the wall over there
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
when I looking at you, when I looking for you. But no,
Gareth Reynolds
that's pretty good.
Kiara Goldberg
It's pretty good.
Gareth Reynolds
It's pretty good, actually.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
One eye looking at the hotel room we're gonna stay at tonight.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay, but the rub. It's a good pitch, but the problem is now I've had my last appointment with him, so I reason to see him again.
Gareth Reynolds
Understood. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, so you guys finished, and now you're thinking, I got to go back and shoot my shot.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah. Like, how do I do that when I have no reason to see him again? I. I have, like, his office's email and phone number, and that's it. He doesn't, like, interested. You know what I mean?
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Have you done any Internet search? Is this dude married? Do we know anything? Have you done any homework?
Jake Johnson
I had the same question.
Gareth Reynolds
You did? Yeah.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. Okay, so he's. He didn't wear a wedding ring. Other than that, I have no idea. I did look him up. He has no social media presence, including no LinkedIn or whatever that I could find. So that is where we're at for an eye doctor. Well, I don't know. He's a professional guy. Maybe he just doesn't have time for that. I don't know.
Jake Johnson
Is there, like, a. Like, what are the rules as an eye doctor for jewelry? Like, is it a sterile environment where you can't be wearing your ring even if you had one?
Gareth Reynolds
Well, I know where you're going with that. I was like, you're talking about necklaces and bracelets. Who cares?
Jake Johnson
Just talking about the ring.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Like, how many earrings does he have?
Kiara Goldberg
Like, hopefully he comes to work looking like Run dmc.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, I didn't notice any earrings. I did see him in, like, an office setting, which I would assume doesn't need to be, like, no jewelry. You know what I mean?
Jake Johnson
Like, totally.
Gareth Reynolds
So he could. He could have a wedding ring in the office?
Kiara Goldberg
I. Yeah. Well, it sounds like. It sounds like from every detail we can tell, he's probably available. I mean, you listen, this is the downside to shooting your shot.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
You don't know exactly. Yeah, we don't know. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Give us a really quick question. Let me ask a quick question. What's this guy's vibe? We know that he's jokey. What's he kind of look like? What's his kind of style? Because sometimes doctors are just friendly where they're, like, they're good with patience. He's like I'm about to operate on her eyes. She's saying, what's up, doc? What's he gonna do, go like this? Nothing.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, I mean, that's true. I mean, as far as his. His style, what's he look like? Like, I don't know. He just. He kind of looks like a nerd who would be a doctor style. Like, he's wearing, you know, scrubs and a medical. Like a lab coat, you know, I don't have.
Gareth Reynolds
What's hunky about this guy? What, do we like it?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I think. I think it's more of a vibes thing than like a. Like a. The look thing. Yeah. Like, I don't know, I just appreciated him as a guy. You know what I mean?
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah, it's. I mean, look, it's really, at this point, figuring out the like, least collateral damage way for you to go shoot your shot with him. I have a pitch on that.
Gareth Reynolds
Okay.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay.
Kiara Goldberg
I think what you do is you make an appointment, and when you make the appointment and you're going in there because you're worried this is happening to your other eye, by the time you go to the appointment, it's not really. I mean, you've had this before. You have an appointment, you're like, fuck it, I'm still gonna go because, you know, it's been two weeks. I just want to be safe. You go and you go. I might. You know, I thought maybe I felt something. I just didn't want to have it happen again. I might just be paranoid. Can you look? He's going to take a look. He's going to go, no, there's nothing wrong. And you're going to go, okay, great. And say, you know, I also been thinking about it. I really appreciate the care, the work. I just. Can I take you out to dinner as a thank you for getting my eye back on track and being so kind? There's a tapas bar where we can eat tinned. Yeah. Anchovies together.
Gareth Reynolds
So. I'm liking a lot of this, Gareth. I'm not liking the lie as a premise.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
I gravitate towards July.
Jake Johnson
There's a thing there that I'm curious about, as a fellow Canadian. Is this doctor like a specialist? Because just making an appointment isn't that easy. I'm curious if that's. That's. That would be tricky, right?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah. Correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jake Johnson
There's. We all get. We all get kind of like care, but we have to wait.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
It's kind of like now that the surgery is done and all the follow ups are done. In order to see him again, I would need another referral. You know what I mean?
Gareth Reynolds
I love that. But do you have direct access to him or his office via email or phone?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Phone, yes, I have his office's email and phone.
Gareth Reynolds
So here's what I would recommend. Similar to where GR was going, but a little different. Email the secretary or whoever runs that front of house. The host.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, they're definitely called a host at the doctor's office.
Gareth Reynolds
I just want to change terms. I don't like secretary.
Kiara Goldberg
We don't know how it happens at kettle.
Gareth Reynolds
I just heard they have to wait a long time. It's all different.
Jake Johnson
It's not different.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
It's all different.
Kiara Goldberg
The mater d of the optometrist.
Gareth Reynolds
But I, if I'm you, I email them and say, I have a little thank you gift for the doctor. This is a time when he's available where I could surprise him and just say thank you and deliver him this little package. What he doesn't know is you, dear. The package.
Kiara Goldberg
I'm gonna jump in. Love the setup. I think we do get a gift.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
And we add a little card to the gift. It is not too long. It's a thank you.
Gareth Reynolds
But it's funny.
Kiara Goldberg
But it's funny, yeah? Yes, it's funny. And at the end you say, I would really like to go out to dinner with you sometime, my treat. If that sounds good. Here's my number.
Jake Johnson
Phone number.
Gareth Reynolds
But here's what I don't love about the note. You're putting it on him.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Right.
Kiara Goldberg
It's all gonna go on him either way. You don't want to go on a guilt date.
Gareth Reynolds
No, that's true.
Jake Johnson
I think it's nice. It's like, it's the. It's the doctor's office version of let me give my waiter my phone number. As I'm leaving, let me give the host the number, you know, so it's a thank you. Did you learn anything about him? Like, what would this gift be?
Kiara Goldberg
Good question.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
No, like, very minimal, like personal details. So we talked a little bit about, like work life balance. And that's kind of as personal as we got.
Jake Johnson
But that's, that's a start. Like maybe a gift card to como taver and then.
Kiara Goldberg
And then just become a barfly there for three weeks.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, here. It could be funny, actually. If you get a gift card for a dinner for two and say, this is my favorite restaurant, if you feel like it, I would love to be your date. But if not, please take whoever you want to go with. And so it's funny, now that you fixed my eyes, I'm seeing what I like, and I do like what I see. And I. When a guy is handsome and charming as you, you probably get that a lot. When you fix a woman's eyes, they fixate on you.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
And so if you've got somebody else, enjoy your night. Thank you for everything you've done. If not, name the dame, doctor and I will be there reading the menu. With no wonky eyes.
Jake Johnson
Nope.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Hey, you know what? I like this. I'm a big. I'm a big card person. Thank you person. So I. I love you, too.
Gareth Reynolds
What do you think, Ash? Are we doing this?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, I would definitely do this.
Gareth Reynolds
What. What is the gift gonna be? Is it going to be the gift card?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I think a gift card. Maybe. Maybe for the restaurant. Maybe for like a coffee shop or something. Keep it cash.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, I like a cash.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Now let's do this.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I like that idea.
Gareth Reynolds
We're gonna. Wait a second, grab a piece of paper. We're gonna pen that note as a team.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay, Perfect.
Gareth Reynolds
Tell us when you're ready.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Hey, give me one second.
Gareth Reynolds
And how. Those eyes.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
The eyes. Wait, mine?
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah, yeah. No, no, yours.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, we know he's. We know he's got Great.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
No, they're good. They're great. The. The condition is not. It doesn't affect your vision at all. It's just the alignment.
Gareth Reynolds
So even if it's a wonky eye, you're still seeing perfectly. It's in a. Yeah, exactly.
Kiara Goldberg
Really?
Jake Johnson
Right.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
I would not have guessed that.
Jake Johnson
It's what we're seeing.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
It's really strange.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. So even if it's like one eye is going to the right, you're still seeing. So our eyes looking forward are just visual. Just from the outside. It matters. Our eyes are actually like. Nah, brown pupils could go anywhere I'm seeing, Right.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, exactly.
Gareth Reynolds
It's very confusing about eyes.
Kiara Goldberg
I'm very. Because I would almost feel like the quote, unquote, wonky eye could be an advantage. You could have, you know, one eye
Jake Johnson
straight to the periphery.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah, like an assassin's eye.
Gareth Reynolds
It might make it a little different.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Well, you know, might make too late for that now.
Kiara Goldberg
I gotta get used to that. Look, the point is. Did you find a pen?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I did. We're ready.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, so, Ashley, why don't you take the first stab? Just write and talk out loud. And then the three of us, if somebody's got something, just interrupt. But when you're doing this don't think about the podcast. Don't think about the audience. Think of this fucking hunk and scrubs.
Kiara Goldberg
Don't think about the spotlight on you right now.
Gareth Reynolds
Think about the spot that's right in the lovers bath you guys are gonna take together.
Kiara Goldberg
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
You're gonna keep the lights out.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Oh, Lord.
Kiara Goldberg
Buddy, that's a lover's bath. There's. I don't know if I love a fully lit lover's bath, but just go ahead.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, that sounds crazy.
Gareth Reynolds
Why not?
Kiara Goldberg
I don't know.
Gareth Reynolds
This chef likes to see the ingredients.
Kiara Goldberg
I don't care for anything that. Now we're really in a bunch, buddy zone. Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
Moving on.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay, so.
Gareth Reynolds
Caught all that.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
How about, like. Just wanted to drop a quick note to thank you for all your help as we went through this process. I really appreciated how kind and friendly you were throughout everything, and.
Gareth Reynolds
That's too Canadian. Too many words.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Oh, okay.
Jake Johnson
I just think you don't. You don't need to say. I just wanted to leave this note. Just start. Start with the thank you.
Gareth Reynolds
Agreed.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. Okay.
Chime Disclaimer Voice
Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Start over. Cut some of that fat out.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
All right. Thanks so much for taking care of me over the past year or so. I kind of missed the wonky eye, but I'm grateful that it's fixed.
Kiara Goldberg
That's on the cutting board, but keep going.
Gareth Reynolds
I don't know. I kind of.
Jake Johnson
I like it.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
It's.
Gareth Reynolds
I like it. It's charming. It shows her personality, right? All right, keep going. If I'm him, I'm laughing at line two.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. As a thank you, I wanted to. No, wait, wait.
Jake Johnson
So maybe take. Take. Maybe be like, I'm so grateful for your support at the beginning. Take out the thank you so that you can end it with the. I'd like to thank you by.
Gareth Reynolds
All right, take a second and. Because we're going to have you read it at the end again.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. So
Jake Johnson
we got the gratitude, we got the joke, we got the. The off the offering. Thank you.
Gareth Reynolds
Exactly.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
And now we just gotta land. We got to pull the boat and the fish and then pull the fish.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. So as a. How about as a token of gratitude.
Jake Johnson
Good metaphor.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
As a token of my gratitude, please accept this gift card.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
Okay, great.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
To wherever.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
And if you're looking for someone to accompany you, maybe.
Kiara Goldberg
Maybe we thank him real quick. Some of the wonky eye thing, if we like that. Right?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
And then we'll return to the. I know someone who would like to go with you if you're interested.
Gareth Reynolds
If not, don't be Mysterious. Because he might go.
Jake Johnson
I'm really grateful for your, like, like, support and being, you know, through this process.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
The wonky eye. No. What was.
Kiara Goldberg
What was that joke? I kind of missed the wonky eye, but you know.
Jake Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. Or you can just.
Chime Disclaimer Voice
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
I wanted to thank you by giving you this gift card to this restaurant. I love it. Whatever. Wonky eye joke.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah.
Jake Johnson
If you want someone to. If you want someone to accompany you to dinner, I'd love to be your date.
Kiara Goldberg
I know someone who'd be into that. Their number is.
Gareth Reynolds
I wouldn't do somebody who's into it because. Well, you don't want him to go. Is go.
Johnny Knoxville
Who?
Kiara Goldberg
Who? If he goes. Who? We don't want to get in a relationship.
Gareth Reynolds
We might. He's busy. He's a doctor. He's tired.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, but just. But I. But I.
Kiara Goldberg
For different reasons, actually gave me your number. Who are you? Do you want to go and fish? I'm a crazy doctor.
Gareth Reynolds
I agree. Actually. That's great. If he calls and goes, I would like to dinner.
Kiara Goldberg
Who are you?
Jake Johnson
And then sees his number from Ashley.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Hello.
Kiara Goldberg
I'm the eye doctor. Ashley's setting us up. Do you. To meet at the fish place.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. Agreed. That's insane. All right. All right. So, Ashley, what do we got here so far? And did you use anything about, like, pulling the fish in the boat kind of thing, or did you go in a different direction?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Pulling the fish in the boat?
Jake Johnson
I don't think. I don't think that was clear that that was a thing for her to write.
Gareth Reynolds
Move on, then. Move on. Everyone was doing their own thing. It felt like you two were cooking. It felt like you guys were cooking. And I thought, let them get in their groove. But she's hearing me too kind of vibe.
Jake Johnson
And I'm realizing now, I thought you were just musing on the. On the situation at large.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm moving on. I am that doctor who's going to call some random number and go, I. I don't know who this is, but I'm looking to take you on a date. Hello.
Kiara Goldberg
Ashley came in with a wonky eye. Thinks we might be right for each other. Do you like tapas?
Gareth Reynolds
You like tin fish, babe?
Kiara Goldberg
You into tapas? Who are you?
Gareth Reynolds
Just wear yellow so I know who it is.
Kiara Goldberg
Why don't we meet in the park before?
Gareth Reynolds
Okay. Ashley, read us this goddamn letter.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay? Okay. So it just says, thanks so much for your help over the past year. I kind of miss the wonky eye. But I'm grateful that it's Fixed. As a token of my appreciation, please accept this gift card. And if you're looking for a plus one, I'd be happy to go with you. And then my number.
Gareth Reynolds
That feels too casual.
Jake Johnson
It's just I. I think we just flip the. See, first one's great. Then wonky eye. Then as a token of my. Wait, no, sorry. As a token of my appreciation. Appreciate.
Kiara Goldberg
I'm with you.
Gareth Reynolds
That was cool.
Kiara Goldberg
You just turned it.
Gareth Reynolds
You became a full on scat lady all of a sudden. Became a jazz club at home.
Jake Johnson
This is. This is my bread and butter. I love to edit an email, but it's driving me crazy. I don't have it in front of me. You know, like, I love when a friend sends me a dress.
Kiara Goldberg
So.
Jake Johnson
Gareth, help me, because you know exactly
Kiara Goldberg
what I think what you're saying, Gareth
Gareth Reynolds
and Jake is what you meant.
Kiara Goldberg
So first of all, do the fish stuff. Get that out of the way.
Gareth Reynolds
You kind of just went to Gareth.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
I'm not. I don't want to do a fish joke.
Kiara Goldberg
We're just having fun. We're just having a laugh. Okay.
Gareth Reynolds
Pull the tuna in the boat is not really a fish joke.
Kiara Goldberg
Okie dokie, where's the joke? Jake, I'm putting you on ice too. Like the tuna metaphor that we're not. Yeah, here's what you do, Ashley. You're starting with, hey, thanks for everything. As a token of my appreciation, here's the gift card. I kind of missed the wonky eye. But, you know, however you want to put that. If you're looking for someone to join you for that dinner, I have the perfect candidate. Her number is this smiley.
Jake Johnson
We're just. We're separating the as a token and the I would be your date.
Kiara Goldberg
I. I think it's helped a couple of ways, but. Yeah, it's one way because he's like, oh, cool, a nice gift. Oh, funny joke. Oh, she wants me to take.
Gareth Reynolds
Oh, bad news. My hook into a sea turtle.
Kiara Goldberg
Stop it now.
Jake Johnson
Wait, but Jake, let's. You. You did. You were saying. You were saying that it felt too casual. What's. What's. What's the problem?
Gareth Reynolds
I don't like this. If you're just looking to get a coffee. Wait, I go like this. I got enough friends. I'm a doctor. I fix eyes.
Jake Johnson
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
What I want to do.
Jake Johnson
We can have a good line there.
Gareth Reynolds
What I'm looking for is fishing line.
Kiara Goldberg
No.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Oh my God.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah. What I'm looking for is something in the zone of thank you for working on my eyes. I missed the Wonkiness. Here's a thing. If you want to, you know, pull this tuna onto a boat kind of thing, you're put a saddle on this tuna and ride it like a rodeo.
Kiara Goldberg
And you go on the tuna, you go, whoa.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
You're saying, you're saying that the only way for it to not come off casual is to talk about tuna?
Gareth Reynolds
No, but it does seem like I'm saying that. Here's what I'm actually saying, Ashley, we need to flirt. If you're gonna shoot the shot, shoot the shot. Shot. This feels like you're going like this. I don't know. You shoot a shot. I want that last line. I'm looking for a little bit of.
Kiara Goldberg
Yeah, yeah, let's keep everything we said. And the last line will be something a little more overt along the lines of, by the way, if you want to take anyone to that dinner with you, I'm definitely tossing my hat in the ring. Here's my number. Something like that.
Jake Johnson
That's cute.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. Yes.
Gareth Reynolds
So then he goes, oh, she's asking me out.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, yeah, we could. We could afford a bigger flirt.
Gareth Reynolds
Because guess what? If he never calls, you're not going back to the doctor, but you don't want him to go. Like, let's go out and then go. Okay. While you're there, go. So my wife found her anniversary. Now that we're girlfriends, gab, brother.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Right. Okay, cuz I think.
Jake Johnson
I think you're getting a text either way. I think you're either gonna get. Get like a friendly text of like, hey, I'm. I'm in a relationship. This was so sweet. I'm so glad you're feeling great. Like, yep, thank you. Or right como da question mark?
Gareth Reynolds
That's exactly. But that might come at 2:00am well,
Kiara Goldberg
you might have a coke problem.
Gareth Reynolds
That might come at 4:30am on a Wednesday. All right, so Ashley, read us the. Read us what you got.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay, so I'm just saying thanks for everything over the past year. As a token of my appreciation, I wanted to please accept this gift card. I kind of missed the wonky eye, but I'm grateful it's fixed. If you're looking for someone to join you at this dinner, I'd love to. I'd love to tag along. Here's my number.
Gareth Reynolds
Not tag along. I would love to be on date.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. I'd love to join you.
Gareth Reynolds
I'd love to be your date.
Jake Johnson
Yeah, Jake's right.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Okay. Love to be your date.
Kiara Goldberg
Phone number.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Be your date.
Kiara Goldberg
Phone number to be your date.
Jake Johnson
Phone number.
Kiara Goldberg
To be clear, that's your actual number. I'd love to be your date.
Gareth Reynolds
Date. Phone number?
Kiara Goldberg
Phone number.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Gareth Reynolds
I never heard from him.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
No, I got it.
Kiara Goldberg
Oh, man.
Gareth Reynolds
Now you got to pay the toll. And what we need for the toll is what, Ashley?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
What do you mean?
Kiara Goldberg
Ashley, we've dished out some phenomenal advice here. You're in a good spot, right? You feel pretty good?
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah.
Kiara Goldberg
We're not asking anything for you. We just want you to have a good life. But the only thing we're asking you is to pay the tab here a little bit on our end. We want a picture of the no note. We want an update on what his reply is, a screenshot of a text or anything like that. And if there is a date, we definitely expect a picture of you, too.
Gareth Reynolds
Well, of course, I don't know if we could get. You could also black out the faces, but we definitely. If there's. Either way, we're going to have you back on, but we need a photo of the note, especially when
Kiara Goldberg
you get one.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Yeah, okay. Absolutely. Will do.
Gareth Reynolds
We appreciate you.
Kiara Goldberg
All right, Ashley, we got this fish in the boat. Ready to get it and serving it tonight through a tin. Take care. God bless. Hang up right now. Don't say yikes anymore.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Just hang up my phone.
Gareth Reynolds
We're Here to Help is hosted by Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds. If you'd like to be on the show, please email us your question@ HelpfulPod gmail.com. and if you want to watch video episodes of We're Here to Help, you can go to our Patreon at Patreon to see our entire catalog.
Kiara Goldberg
We're Here to Help is produced by Rabbit Grimm Productions executive producers Rob Hollis, Jeff Porter, and Natalie Hollis. Associate producer Jesse Thurston. Editing, mix and master by Chris Faller. Theme song by Oliver Raleigh. The COVID artwork is by James Fosdike, animations by Andrew Strelecki. And if you'd like to see Gareth do stand up on the road, go to garethreynolds.com Remember, all the advice. Advice given on We're Here to Help is for entertainment purposes only. And all listeners should be adults and make their own decisions.
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Gareth Reynolds
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Johnny Knoxville
Hello, I'm Johnny Knoxville.
Gareth Reynolds
And I'm Jeff Tremaine.
Johnny Knoxville
Welcome to Jackass the Podcast, a new show coming to coming to.
Gareth Reynolds
That's what it is.
Johnny Knoxville
Hello, I'm Johnny Knoxville.
Gareth Reynolds
And I'm Jeff Tremaine.
Johnny Knoxville
Welcome to Jackass the Podcast, a new show coming to head gum soon.
Gareth Reynolds
Woo hoo.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Woo.
Gareth Reynolds
I've learned a Jackass movie has to be really 90 minutes. Every minute over is a minute.
Johnny Knoxville
Apparently there's only so much butthole you can take. We're gonna take you behind the scenes of our entire history. All the best bits. Bats, bad behavior, and even worse decisions.
Kiara Goldberg
All of it.
Johnny Knoxville
Sometimes we don't make the right decisions.
Caller (Anna/Ashley)
Jeff.
Kiara Goldberg
I've noticed that every.
Johnny Knoxville
Every so often with guests like Spike Jones.
Gareth Reynolds
I think let's commit to Jackass, the podcast.
Kiara Goldberg
What was it gonna be called?
Johnny Knoxville
The Jackass Podcast.
Gareth Reynolds
Podcast. Without you, the IQ drops significantly.
Johnny Knoxville
Steve O. There's a strong chance that were it
Gareth Reynolds
not for Jackass, that I would be in clown makeup right this market.
Johnny Knoxville
Chris Pontius, that shot of your butt just cruising up.
Gareth Reynolds
I'm like, yeah, I got that on tv. God bless us.
Johnny Knoxville
Dave England.
Gareth Reynolds
Yeah, when you come in and you're
Kiara Goldberg
being really nice, I'm like, damn it.
Gareth Reynolds
Something bad's gonna happen to me.
Johnny Knoxville
Wee man.
Gareth Reynolds
Jeff grabbed me from the back of the head and threw a punch. The whole bar just stopped and wanted to kill me, like.
Johnny Knoxville
And some of the crew that's been with us from the beginning.
Gareth Reynolds
I had to share a room with this guy and I left a nice surprise in the toilet for him every time.
Johnny Knoxville
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Gareth Reynolds
Our new episodes drop on June 18th. Look out for new episodes in your feed every Thursday.
Johnny Knoxville
Watch video episodes on YouTube and follow along with us on on Instagram and TikTok @JackassThePodcast. What were we just talking about?
Kiara Goldberg
Probably buttholes.
Jake Johnson
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Gareth Reynolds
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Jake Johnson
Each episode, we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show.
Kiara Goldberg
This is us.
Gareth Reynolds
That's right.
Kiara Goldberg
We're gonna go episode by episode.
Jake Johnson
We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and casting directors.
Gareth Reynolds
Are we going to cry?
Kiara Goldberg
Yes, a little bit.
Gareth Reynolds
Are we going to laugh a lot?
Kiara Goldberg
A whole lot.
Gareth Reynolds
That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to that was us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.
Date: June 10, 2026
Host: Jake Johnson & Gareth Reynolds
Guest: Kiara Goldberg (“Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed”)
In this lively episode, comedians Jake Johnson and Gareth Reynolds are joined by actress Kiara Goldberg to tackle two callers’ unusual dilemmas: one about a marital standoff over a library ladder, and another seeking advice on how to ask out her eye surgeon. True to form, the trio blends practical advice with offbeat humor, riffing off each other and their guests’ stories. Along the way, listeners get playful banter, relationship insight, and hands-on tips for sticky situations—all infused with the hosts’ signature irreverence.
Anna’s husband built her a home library but refuses to install the classic rolling ladder she wants, citing safety and cost concerns—but he’s fine with her longboarding downhill.
Ashley has a crush on her (similarly aged, friendly, and single-appearing) eye surgeon after multiple visits and some fun banter. Now her treatments are over, and she wants advice on how to shoot her shot.
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For an episode that’s as much about goofball camaraderie as advice, “We’re Here To Help” episode 297 delivers comedic gold, creative problem solving, and a reminder to always pay the community ‘tab’.