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If you want to do music, if you want to do anything that you want to make a lot of money, if you don't know what to do with it, it won't last long. My father has been incarcerated my whole life, you know, as a man growing in the world. And you don't have that male role model to look up to and say, hey, this is what a dad looks like. Not having certain things and growing up without it would teach you scarcity and teach you survival, but then just having it handed to you, you might be ungrateful. I just don't want to see these kids out here having their world controlled by appeal. I don't want to see that destroy more lives. Don't draw straight edge, no lean, nothing. The level of consistency I had before this started, I did that being sober. So I made a name for myself being sober.
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Young bands.
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Yeah.
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How you doing, man?
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Doing good, man.
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Thanks for coming. So.
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Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me.
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You're the only guy who's walked in here from the underground rap scene that hasn't walked in smoking a joint. Yeah. You're the only one.
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So.
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And then somebody here offered you to smoke and you said no.
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Yeah.
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Why?
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Probation. Can't smoke.
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So how long you been on probation.
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For like five years.
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How much longer you got?
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Five more. Five more to go.
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Really? Yeah. And you're not smoking or drinking or anything right now?
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Nothing? Like, nothing at all? Maybe a drink here and there, you know, like the champagne.
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But no. But no drugs at all? No drugs, Pills, powders, Nothing.
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No drugs. Straight edge, no lean, nothing.
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Wow.
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Clear mind. You know what I'm saying? It just. It just is better for you. Like, you get. You take that time away. Like you can be high and have a phase and get caught up in that cycle, but then once you do the work to get off, because it is work withdrawals, the mental things that it leave in your mind, you know what I'm saying? But after you make it past that, you realize being sober and just the natural energy is way better, you know what I'm saying?
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The thoughts like, you're more clear.
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Yeah.
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Progress, right? It's. You're clear, you're more motivated. Right. Because here's the thing. When guys come on this show, I never tell them not to drink or do drugs. I don't. I tell them to buy their weed at dispensary and I tell them to get their pills at a pharmacy from a doctor. Because.
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Fine.
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That's right. They're all dying. That's exactly Right. And you know. You know, the culture, right? It's all weed, it's all booze, it's all music, it's all women. It's like, it's right. I mean, this is what it's about, right?
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Most definitely.
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Okay. I mean, that's how it would have been if I was a kid, right? So, yeah, man. Thank you so much for saying that. I really appreciate it.
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Gotta be sick.
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So how do you feel now as opposed to being loaded all the time? Do you get more done? Do you. Are you happier? Do you have a joy of living? Like, what is it?
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So, personally, I get way more done. Like, just reality, just being clear, knowing my goals. You get what I'm saying? Like. Cause you would get successful, and let's say you. You will lose sight of what success is. And like that you have to maintain success to truly be successful. Like, and it's a big delusion. Just being high all the time, it creates a big delusion. So whatever you want to run away from, whatever you don't want to think about, it creates a space inside of you to not think about it. You get what I'm saying? When it could be, when it's a lot of components to life and just reality and what's going on, you know?
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Good. Gillan, grab me a pen and a pad of paper, will you, please? Because this man just said the magic words. You said goals?
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Yeah.
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Uhhuh. Want to talk about your goals?
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Oh, man. Oh, man.
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Okay. What are your goals?
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So it's different types of goals. I place like goals.
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I want to hear them all.
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I'll place like, goals in, like, two categories. So you got personal goals and then you got, like, business goals, like, you know, numbers and like that. But as far as personal goals go, I would say, you know, I don't know who house this is. It might be your crib. Whoever crib this is, you know what I'm saying? Owning a place for me and my family. So when it's all said and done, they always have somewhere to go. So you pass down that. You know what I'm saying? They know. My dad put in work. He worked hard for us to be able to always have someone, to be, you know, to have him in good schools and just get him the life that I wasn't able to have. Because as black people, you know what I'm saying? And African Americans and other people, sometimes even all ethnicities. You get what I'm saying? Like, you may not be put in a position where your family was able to tend to you correctly because they so focused on surviving, you get what I'm saying? People blame their parents. Oh, my mom wasn't able to be there for me in this way or that way. But she had to go work three jobs just to make sure you even just had some food at home, you know what I'm saying? There's nobody to watch you and you know what I'm saying? So stuff like that. I want to be able to be there for my kids and not have to be out working, ripping and running, doing this and doing that, just to barely make ends meet so where I can get them that property. Love and passion and be passionate about what they're passionate about.
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That's beautiful.
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That's beautiful to know them, you know.
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Do you know what I like best about it? What? Two things. Number one, you said I break my goals into two buckets. One is personal and one is business. And then you went to personal first before business. And so you know it's important. And then the first goal was for your family and not for you. So if you ever want to know the moment that I started loving the out of you, that was it. Like, man, that was beautiful for sure. Dude, I almost started crying like a little. I'm not kidding. It was that beautiful.
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The way it gotta be.
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Yeah. Give me another personal role to do.
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What we doing right now to be able to spread awareness and just do God's work. So when you working towards righteousness, you know what I'm saying? He'll be able to use his righteous soldiers on a different level. So I want God to see me and be able to use me to max potential because he won't hold any good thing from me once I reach that point. You get what I'm saying? But we deal with things like drug abuse. We deal with things like these bad habits and vices. It could be sex, it could be drugs, it could be just materialistic. Oh, I like two clothes too much. I like jewelry too much, you know what I'm saying? When it's more important things to do with your time and your earnings.
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Yeah, you're not wearing any ice.
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I really just love ring. I got tired of it like as I got a whole box of jewelry at home, you know what I'm saying? But over time it just like putting it on and taking like what am I what? You know, if I'm not going nowhere specifically like a photo shoot, a video shoot, a show, I don't need, don't. It don't make me no different. And people gonna look at you different. Like when you're wearing it, people, you. You bring that energy. You know what I'm saying? Like, people look at you like, oh, maybe I can get something from that guy. Or, you know.
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Yeah, no, it's better. Listen, especially in. In times that we're living in now, right, with all this income disparity where people have a ton and then other people have nothing. Okay. You don't want to give anybody an.
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Excuse to take your life or take something from.
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Yeah, because, you know, I mean, you give it right tool.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. And so would I. But, you know, they're having a bad.
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Day and they might just do it.
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And they don't want to have a conversation. They just want to move fast. Bang. And they're gone. I mean, over what? Over nothing.
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Some marked up 300 times the price that it. You know what I'm saying? Then it really is. It's not even that really, that price.
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It's just horrible.
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So you think you wearing some shit that's worth a hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, when really it's thirty thousand, fifty thousand.
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Right.
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At most. And then you just lost your life. Over 50,000.
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Lost your life because you were a dumb and you wore your out in. In a place where, you know, you. Where it wasn't safe. That's all. So that's good. Okay. I mean, there's nothing better than giving back. Okay. And thank you for coming, man, because you're big shot. People love you. They just lose it for you.
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Yeah, they do.
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Dylan, didn't he do a music video with somebody who's coming in the next couple days? Landon Cube. Do you know land in Cube?
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Yeah, I know Landon. Shout out. Land.
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Yeah. So Landon's coming next week. Dylan, March. Oh, March30 is coming Monday. So that's cool. You. I heard you guys did music together.
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One of my biggest songs. He owned my biggest song.
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Oh, then hold on, let's put that. Let's go straight to the business. Balls. You want to do another song with him? Yeah. Hell yeah.
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Always down to work.
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What?
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Always down to work.
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Yeah, let's work that out. Dylan, remind me, because I think that's good for both of them. They're both star players, right? I mean, who doesn't want. I mean, right?
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Yeah.
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And you guys go and you do that. And because you're giving to each other, you both rise. Right?
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That's what happened with our song that we did. But one thing I will say, the fans didn't really like. It's big. They loved it because the song got 100 million streams plus.
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Right.
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But his sound is just completely different than my sound. So when my fans are listening to it, like, why did he put, like, landing Cube on this song?
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That is so bitching that they're completely different, don't you think, Dylan? Oh, I love that.
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It was really, like, the label idea, but they thought that what you thought, huh? Let's, like, let's make it a. You know what I'm saying? Like, he got that beach sound. It's a song, like a beach kind of vibe, you know, he. That kind of artist.
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Listen, I don't know if that works for you, but I think it would be cool. You guys are friends, right?
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Yeah.
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How long does it take to knock out a song in the studio?
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It depends. It depends on his process, you know, it didn't depend on the song. Like, if it's something I'm working on really, like, in depth and I'm fucking with it, and I just want to take, like, take my time on it. 45 minutes to an hour.
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If you take your time on it. 45 minutes to an hour.
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Yeah.
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How about if you're just being lazy?
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If I'm just having fun and freestyling, I can do this in 10 minutes, like, or 20 minutes.
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Really.
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One take.
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How much does it cost for four hours in the studio?
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The engineer usually charge about, let's say, $30 an hour plus studio time.
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Okay, good. If you guys want to do that, I'll give you the 500 bucks for the studio time if you guys want to do that. Okay. Because I think that would be so good for you and good for him because you're both starter players and you haven't done this in a long time, and it's.
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Haven't done what?
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You haven't did a song together for a long time.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Right. And when was it? What year was it?
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I don't know. Maybe 18. We did it. We did it some year.
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So back to 18.
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About five years ago.
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Back to 18.
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Yeah.
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Right. That's the net.
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Land and cool. Land and cool.
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Right. I think that's cool. All right, so let's get back to personal. Okay. So you've got a home for your family, okay. So that they always have a place to go, which is the most. It's not just beautiful, it's heartbreaking. Yeah, Right. Because I know where it's coming from. So, Michelle, what a beautiful soul. Dude, your parents alive for sure. And call your parents, right, when you get done with this. They did so Good with you. All right, next. Next. Personal goal.
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Personal goal. Next. Personal goal. I would say.
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Can we do health?
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Health? Oh, yeah. Just stay healthy. So I'm already pretty healthy, but I do want to, like, personally get, like, more book knowledge. I'm very knowledgeable through experience. Book knowledge, Just knowledge about everything. So you can also pass down intelligence. You know what I'm saying?
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Good. So I'm going to recommend something for you where you can literally listen to. To a book, a large book, in 15 minutes and get all the key points out of every single book you.
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Have or is good for you. Summarize.
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Like, I like it.
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Yeah.
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I don't do it as much as I should, but there were periods in my life where I did it every day for years.
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Taught you a lot.
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So there's nothing. Listen, there's. There's nothing more important than continuing to grow and learn. Nothing. We're not going to be that. You're not the same guy today that you're going to be in 20 years. I can prove it to you. Are you the same guy today that you were at 15? Not even close. Right. Okay. I mean, when you get to be 45 and 55, you know, you're. You're different. You're just a com. You get mature and you. And you get more right sized about everything. And there are no real big deals unless it has to do with your family or health or livelihood. Sorry. But, you know, if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. Sure. Right. All right, so we got your health. Are you exercising at all?
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A little bit.
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Working out at all?
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A little bit. When I was. I was just in county for a couple months. I was working out. I was bigger. But then I got out and just got back chilling, you know what I'm saying? Like, making music. Hit the studio, play the game, work on music.
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Okay, so you got your health. Right. You're eating right. Right.
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Passing down my assets. So a lot of artists, you know, they'll sell their music and we. We get blessed with a talent. So you get blessed with a talent like you make. You make all this music and you go and you sell it to the label and you get 0.3%. But not only do you get 0.3%, when it recoups from the big advance you took, you sold it to them. So they own your masters. So I just never sold my music. You know what I'm saying? I own my music.
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So you want. What song do you want to play on the outro here? We'll play One of your songs on the outro after the deal.
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Let's pay straight cash.
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Straight cash?
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Yeah. Maybe a heart.
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That's awesome. So you want to pass down your assets, and what you're saying is you held on to your music, so any asset.
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So let's say it's music, and then from music, let's say I've started more businesses. You know what I'm saying? So I made more businesses. We pass them down or. Or what. Whatever it may be just a way for them to make money with it in their sleep. And like I said, the knowledge. You get what I'm saying?
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Hold on, let me write this down, because I want to be able to give you something. You got kids?
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Yeah, three.
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Did you know you can give $19,000 to each one of you as a gift, tax free?
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Yeah.
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Are you doing it?
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Yeah, I know that. And then is. Where do you.
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Where do. Where do you have the money?
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See, that's what I'm about to say next. The accounts that you can stash the.
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Money in don't give you any interest.
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Unless you put them in the right accounts.
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Right?
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So I had a financial literacy class that we took a couple weeks ago, and they were just telling us about the different accounts and about when your kid's 21, they can have, like, I don't know if it was a million or something close to that. You know what I'm saying?
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Right.
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From interest. From compound interest.
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Right.
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So I just want more as a personal goal. Personally, I want to be the first to do that. You know what I'm saying?
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Ask you a question. Do you. I think that this is the most beautiful thing because I tell people all the time, one of the most important things that you need to know in your life is you need to be financially literate. Okay? That's a must. And they don't teach you in school. Will you look into that camera and tell the people what class you took, what it's called, so that our viewers can go there? No, I don't own it. Okay? I don't even know anything about this. Don't make this about me.
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So, Next level boys program, Shout out. Coach Davis. You know, Capital One Credit association came and gave us a financial literacy class. Y'all need to take it and be financial. Financially literate.
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That's right. Yeah, that's right. Thank you for that, dude. You know how many people you just helped?
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Plenty. It's important. And that's coming from me. Somebody you may not think practices that, but I'm telling you, like I'm 25 now. I've been doing this for 10 years. And it's the most important. If you want to do music, if you want to do anything that you want to make a lot of money, if you don't know what to do with it, it won't last long. So tighten up, tighten up.
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That's awesome.
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That's what they gotta do.
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All right, so you got that handled. You want to pass down your assets, you got these personal things. Okay. I love that you want to own a home, you want to go to the business side of it now? Yeah, I mean, I just. Can I just touch on the health real quick?
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Yeah.
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Okay. Taking care of your health is about self love now. I'm still working on my self love. Hand of God. Okay. I don't love myself the way I should. I do not. Yeah, I know.
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I'm. I'm the same way, bro. And that's something that we should talk about as well. That, that goes into like the first personal goal, as in a parent's love will lead you with those issues, you know what I'm saying? And you won't even know why, because you weren't taught as a. At an early age, everything hits harder. So if you're not taught at 5 years old, 10 years old, 12, 11, how to love yourself and being love poured into you correctly, then you're going to grow up and you're going to be 30, you're going to be 40.
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Do you have parents that love me? That loved you so much?
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Hell yeah.
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It gave you. It made you feel safe in the world and secure in the world and that you actually loved yourself.
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Honestly, even though we're on a podcast, I probably never thought about this. You know, I love myself so much, but I deal with those issues, you know what I'm saying? Because, yeah, my mom loved me. I have a great mom, a loving mom. But my grandmother was abused as a child, so she maybe didn't give my mom the right love. And she. It's not that she's not a loving person. Like the heart reflects that you a loving person, but you don't necessarily know what it looks like. And my father has been incarcerated my whole life, so still, yeah, he's still locked up. So, you know, as a man growing in the world and you don't have that male role model to look up to and say, hey, this is what a dad looks like. You know what I'm saying? And then you get around other men and boys and it's like, oh, you could Tell he got a dad because he know how to carry himself like his dad, or he talk like his dad. We hold conversations like this is certain social stigmas or barriers that they know how to move around because they have a father, you know what I'm saying? It could make you feel less than or. You know what I'm saying? So my, my job is to make sure my sons, I gotta still learn this stuff. I still gotta learn as a man, how to be a man. But I learned through the streets, I learned through trial and error. I learned through getting, you know what I'm saying, ridiculed for certain things until you realize, okay, no, well, I gotta try to be different and make it work. You get what I'm saying? So I just feel like, like I said, that's what I wanna pass down to my sons, like how to be a man. You know what I'm saying?
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And you know what's great about that? It's a process, right? How old are your kids?
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Three, two, four year olds and I got a seven year old.
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That's fantastic. So the way I look at it, because none of us are exactly where we want to be, right? I don't care who you are, you want to be somewhere, you want to grow, you want to thrive, you want to be, you want to be better, right? And the greatest part about that is you only have to be one step ahead of your children, right? So I don't know everything and I still have to learn a lot of stuff to pass down to my boy and my daughter, right? I mean, I have to, right? You only need to be one step ahead, right? Of, of of your children. And I'm the same way. I have so much more to learn. But you know what? My kids are getting smarter and they're rapidly catching up to me, I mean, very quickly. But right now I got a little time. So I always stay one step ahead of the kids. And if they ever ask me something and I don't know. Well, yeah, and if I don't know, I say, you know what, guys? That's a great question. Let me think about that. And, and I'll get right back to you, okay?
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And that's a good mindset to have. You have to teach people like you never gonna have it all figured out that day. You shouldn't even want that day to come. Because life is an ongoing journey as long as you live in. So unless you want to wake up and die tomorrow, you should always be excited for growth and to learn new things and to expand on what you know? You know what I'm saying?
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He talked right to you.
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They gotta know that, you know what I'm saying? Like, it growth, bro. Every day you become like. Like when I first got on with the rapping and stuff and I had reached my goals, you would have thought that that could have been like, what I. What I always wanted. Like, it's what I always wanted. I wanted to be a rapper. My. This happened. It became bigger than what I asked for. Like, I might have set a goal. I might have. I never touched 100,000 where I started. I got. I got, let's say a million. You know what I' Multiple times. Like, damn. You know what I'm saying? So it's like you would think that'd be it all, but that's not. You're never gonna know what all it takes to know everything or be truly that person, that in person. It's just a growing thing. Like, when I turn your age, my goals might completely reset, you know what I'm saying? To something totally more different.
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By the time you're my age, you will have achieved all your goals and your last goal will be just to make certain that what you already did sticks or you did sticks.
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Yeah, like, it sticks. Like, okay, I. I got this much money. I got all these million dollars in that account. I got this crib. We hope it's stating, let's hope the kids are smart enough to that point. Or if they inherit a fortune, they don't blow it. They're not out here acting crazy. They don't die. They don't get hooked on drugs. That's what a lot of kids who have rich parents or. Because not having certain things and growing up without it will teach you scarcity and teach you survival. But then just having it handed to you, you might be ungrateful. You might. You can develop completely different set of.
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There's no resilience, there's no grit.
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And then they develop these problems, these. These mental problems which makes them lead to just drugs or this or that. You know what I'm saying? Living on the edge. Because you're searching this guy who is.
B
Here just recently, great guy, fantastic guy. His name is Jimmy Shin. And he said something, I hope I get this right, Dylan. He said, one of my favorite quotes is, hard times create strong people. Strong people create good times, Good times create weak people. And the cycle goes all over again. I mean, it says it all. I'm a father. We're fathers. Right? Which is why I assume you came on this thing because you've got young children. And you want to bring awareness to the fentanyl issue because we're parents and we're scared to death, right?
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Definitely.
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I just want to make certain that I leave this place better than I found it. Right?
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Correct.
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And that my children are okay in the world when I'm gone. All right? And that's really important to me. That's the only. Those are the only two things that in from a 30,000 foot view that I care about. And maybe that's because I'm 58 and I've already had my, and my home and my car and, you know, whatever.
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Right?
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I've already had that. But, bro, you, you feel it whether you know it or not, because you didn't walk in here all iced up and you're a father. So what, so what happened was, is intuitively, you know, that's important. This isn't. The children are important. This is the woman I love. She's important. This is it. Okay. Now, it's easy for me to say okay because everyone's listening. Oh, it's easy for you to say, right. Okay. It is easy for me to say okay because I've done a lot of living and I've worked around the clock for, I don't know, two decades, Closer to three. I mean, I, I do not leave the house. That's why the office is on the house. It's next to the house, right?
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Yeah.
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I mean, people work all day long out of that. This is an office and I just live upstairs. That's how I do it. Okay, so I worked for that. I earned that. I made mistake after mistake after mistake, got back up, dust myself off and went and took the next right action after the next right action after the next right action. That's it. You know Coach Saban, do you know Coach Saban is Nick Saban. You don't, you don't watch college football? Okay, so Nick Saban is the, is the best college football coach of all time. It's not close. It's like Michael Jordan and everybody else. It's like, it's just on clicks. You do bet the best. And he said something that is always stuck, stuck with me because I'm only saying reps, reps, reps. Over, over, do it again. Do it again. He made a statement that was so genius. He said, you don't keep doing something over and over until you get it right. You keep doing it over and over again until you can't get it wrong. That's like a spiritual experience, right?
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Sure.
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And that Ain't about football, dude.
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It's about everything in life.
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It's about everything.
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See, that's even, like, music. I go in the studio when I first started, people, like, wonder why I'm so good at. And they're like, bands, bro, you can make a song so quick, how you can freestyle a whole song. Because, bro, I've made. I started off not that good, but I kept going, kept going, kept going, kept going. And now it's like a muscle memory how to make music to the point where I can't even think how to not make a good song. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, it's not that good of a song. Like, bro, it's a great song. I'm like, nah, I can go harder than this. You gotta always have room for improvement as well.
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That's right. You know, it's funny, every. You asked me, you asked me why I'm doing this, why I did this podcast, right? And. And I told you it was just to bring fentanyl awareness and save kids. And, you know, we've got kids and we've got to do it. Listen, let's move on to. To the fentanyl thing, okay? Have you ever tried fentanyl? Hell, no.
A
But unintentionally, I believe someone gave me a pill saying at one point, how did you feel? Scariest day in my life ever. Like, I was like, with a girl, was going to get some food, you know, regular. It's probably, like, I would say, like four or five years ago on my way to Kale's Kitchen, there's a girl in the car. She got like a pisy attitude. Like, girl I used to talk to in high school, so me and her really close, but you know what I'm saying? Like, everything just felt different. Like, I was like, she was talking to me. I just wasn't listening, you know what I'm saying? She's like, why are you not listening? Like, she hopped out the car on some mad. And really, that was my cue to get her, you know what I'm saying? Like, why you tripping? I just let her, okay? You know what I'm saying? I got my son with me. As. As it got more severe and more severe, my bro went in, he got the food. I'm sitting in the car, I'm spaced out. I get home, I get in the room with my son, my first born, before I ever had three kids, and then I'm just in the bed. I stared at a wall for about 8 hours, 10 hours, 12 hours, I don't know, probably hours on top of hours. And my kid, he just sat there and just eating the food with his hands, you know what I'm saying? Like, I couldn't do nothing. I couldn't move. I was just stuck. Like, I was stuck, like my eyes, like bloodshot stuff, staring at the wall. And then I had to stand the wall for so long. Then the shortness of breath came. So I couldn't, didn't have no oxygen. I get up and I went in my bro room. I looked, I was looking in the mirror and like, I was like, I'm about to die. Like, you know what I'm saying? I thought I was gonna die, I was gonna pass out. And I was like, I went to my bro room, cloud about to pass out. I was looking in the mirror, I was like, just pray with me, bro. And just grab his hands. Like, pray with me, bro. Like, just pray me, bro. I'm going to die, bro. Like, you know, somebody gave me a fake pill, fake perk. And this is before this even became big. Like Percocets were kind of low key back then, you know what I'm saying? But somebody still gave me some fentanyl and she prayed for me, bro. And the next day I woke up after it kind of like came down off of it a little bit. And you know, I woke up and you know, I'm a very strong minded individual. I always took pride in it. I got a strong mind. Like, you know, anything put my mind to, I can do it. And then, and I just woke up and I knew, man, a part of me is gone from that, you know what I'm saying? Like a part of your mind that is so strong and like sharp can do things like that. Think about it and go do it without the, the fog or the noise.
B
And now. And you had fog and noise after.
A
That it was, it wasn't even the father, it was something left. So basically it created room for that, like just me not in full control of my world.
B
So what you're saying, I want to, I want to get clear, I want to understand this. So what you're saying, after that overdose, okay, because you know, it wasn't, it wasn't fatal, but it wasn't fatal. But your current seven year old was two, two and a half during that period. Does he have any recollection of that overdose?
A
I don't remember.
B
Thank God.
A
He went straight to sleep. Like, he ate the pasta. I got. He ate the pasta and I looked over into that and I was like, thank God. He's just food all over his mouth and his hands and just knock out.
B
Thank God. All right. And the other ones are four, so they'd never even see me loaded. Let's get to this other thing. I want to talk to you about your arrest. Are you okay with that? Okay. Because I'm impressed. Let me tell you why I want to talk about it. Normally, I would, but the reason I want to talk about it is, you know, I own the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. It's for anyone and everyone who absolutely has to have the finest of everything, especially under, like, the horrific hard conditions of, you know, stopping using, withdrawals and all that.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, and they held that life valuable. That was like their medicine, you know, they.
A
Everything to them.
B
Everything. And so, you know, that's a scary thing. So you have to be in the right place. The reason I want to ask you about this is because I'm impressed. Doing what I do for a living to have a guy who got in trouble with the law and hasn't done drugs in five years.
A
Now, I ain't gonna say five years, right?
B
And then how long has it been?
A
Like a couple years. Maybe, like two.
B
Okay. Hey, guess what? What you're doing is beyond magnificent. Because you did all that stuff up until two years ago, and the last two years, you've been on the straight narrow, you've been perfect.
A
It was just weed. And then when I went to jail recently, like, there's no more weed. So then you take weed out because you got to rely on even smoking weed. No, not even weed. And that's even better. That's great, because when I was just smoking weed, it's. It's the same thing. Addiction is the same no matter what drug you're using. Because if you weren't addicted, you would realize, I don't even want this. You know what I'm saying?
B
Or you can just. Better yet, you could just say, I'm not gonna do this today. And then you're like, 4:00. It's like, you know, it's like. Right? And it's like you. I always tell people, if you have a problem, stop drinking for 30 days.
A
But they can't do it now because they rely on it for something, you know what I'm saying? That will control your world. I just don't want to see these kids out here having their world controlled by appeal. I don't want to see that destroy more lives. I got a relationship, bro. I got a girl, bro. Who I'M in a relationship right now, bro. And she's addicted to these pills so bad.
B
Who is the girl you're with right now? Yeah. She a baby mama?
A
No, no, no child with her. It's just I. I love her. You get what I'm saying? She's 24.
B
Does she work?
A
No. No.
B
What did she do all day?
A
She's like, do content. You know, these girls be doing all day.
B
Okay. Monetize it.
A
She might. She a model. She's a model.
B
Does she get paid for money?
A
Yeah, she get paid good amount.
B
And she gets paid for doing the content?
A
Yeah.
B
All right, good. Well, then she's working. She just works for herself, right?
A
She works for herself, but I'm just not like a 9 to 5. Like not a traditional job.
B
Who works 9 to 5 anymore? I don't know. I don't even know if that work. Is that even. Is that even a thing?
A
Anyone? 3ths of people it is, but then in our world, we don't meet a lot of those people because they always at work. Because we don't work jobs and they're at work.
B
Right.
A
No, but, yeah, she just. Advice. She's just going through that, bro, and I just worried about it, bro. I feel like she's going to die.
B
All right, well, let's get back to her in a minute. Do you want. Do you want help for her?
A
Definitely.
B
Does she want help?
A
I was going to ask you, like, you know.
B
Really?
A
Yeah. That would be a huge favor to me.
B
Really?
A
Yes.
B
Okay. What's your name?
A
I want to like, be. You know, I'm saying.
B
So you want me to talk to your girlfriend after the, after the podcast and try to get her into treatment?
A
As I said, it would be amazing, but you know what I'm saying, if you put her in treatment, I don't know if, like, she can afford it costs a lot of money.
B
We'll figure something out for her. Don't worry about it. Listen, if I can't help her, I can find a place that will. So don't worry about it. Yeah, I'll figure it out for you before you leave here. Okay, so the reason I want to talk about this is because you're doing great. You're what the judicial system is actually hoping for. You went in, you got on probation, right? Okay. You haven't been in trouble in what, how long? Five years?
A
Yeah, I haven't been in zero trouble. I haven't caught a new felony.
B
Good. See if you're good for five years. Okay. Not five years. It's been. It's been five years.
A
Yeah, it's been five. Made a career for myself. Yeah, been five years.
B
Okay, so it's been five years. Two years sober. So not in trouble for five. Sober for two. And you've got another five. Okay. On probation. And I just think that's fantastic. And I think that's something that you should be really, really proud of. Like, extremely proud of.
A
I am. I'm very proud of myself, bro, because my life changed. Like, I was just like, you got to think, like, where the level of consistency I had before this started, I did that being sober. So I made a name for myself being sober. You get all this money, you get all this fame, you get hard, you start losing friends. Everybody want family, and you think this is nothing because of the way, like you said, the culture. And you pick up a Percocet, you pick up a lean cup, and you sipping the lean, you know what I'm saying? And you're not seeing, like, this is, like, changing me, you know, I'm saying this changing the way I deal with people. This is changing the way that I react to problems. So then people will think you the brightest, coolest guy to be around. Like, everybody love being around, man. Damn, bro Dance gets mad at me, bro, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he starts yelling at me, like, I don't know if I want to be around that. You get what I'm saying? And these are the people who help facilitate work for you. So he says it's not a good thing.
B
Do you. Do you ever call them and make a repair and tell them I work.
A
With the same people. They came back on board. But I had a whole moment where I didn't do anything. And it wasn't just because of no drugs or no like that. Like, I was never, like, fiend out. Like, oh, I'm eaten up. Like, it's just literally, like, it's what it does. Like, everybody know you sip lean consistently, you will become a. It's simple, you know what I'm saying? Lean makes you a hole. It make you mad, make you grumpy. Like, so I'm grumpy, you know what I'm saying? And if I see somebody not working or doing something, I might call you instead of me, like, talking, like, to my friend or a person who cares about me and helps me, like. Like, what they are. A person will care about me, help me. He taught something, like a employee or something. And they're like, bro, like, you ain't never talked to me like, this bro. Like, I don't know, you know? And then you don't see nothing wrong with it because you're in the fog. You're in the fog.
B
Why arrested?
A
Like conspiracy of a murder, you know, in Atlanta, it's like conspiracy.
B
Let me just stop scaring everybody, okay? You didn't. You. It wasn't conspiracy to commit murder. Somebody. Somebody.
A
Somebody burglarized. Somebody died, and allegedly I was a part of the conspiracy. You know what I'm saying?
B
Well, you didn't plan the. Plan the burglary, did you?
A
No.
B
Did you plan in any way shape or nothing?
A
Like, I had nothing to do with this.
B
Right? So. But you were with the boys.
A
With my friends. But. But who's to say they even did it? Like, I'm not the one to say they did it. You get what I'm saying? It's just like, whatever, like, happened, it happened. Right.
B
My point is, though, you weren't there, right? Okay, but you were with the guys.
A
That they said was there.
B
And then you got 10 years probation, right? Because the judge blessed me.
A
She just blessed me, you know what I'm saying? Once again, as I came back for not fulfilling my probation stipulations, like going to school and this restitution got ahead of me because, like, you.
B
You.
A
You get away from it. You get out of the big situation in the house arrest, and you just wanted this go away, you know, so you think you can just run, run, run, run. It's not catching up to you or it caught up to me. And you know, I'm saying I almost went to jail. Five years.
B
What was the judge's name?
A
Judge Ingram.
B
Judge Ingram.
A
Yeah.
B
Where is she?
A
Fulton County Court.
B
Fulton County, Georgia.
A
Yeah.
B
That woman is a blessing. You should send her a dozen roses to her courtroom every year on your anniversary and then walk in with the roses on the 10th year probation. And you're the greatest woman alive.
A
Yeah, you're right. I might do that.
B
Absolutely, dude.
A
Sure.
B
Great story. Tip.
A
And Judge Ingram. Shout out to Judge Ingram, you know, because I saw just the way on this. Understand, like, how she thought about it. She thought about it. Like, she put her hand on her face and she was like. She thought about it. She made a choice to give me a second chance. And I'm working. I'm not perfect, but I'm working so hard on myself. And I'm here even doing this podcast right now just to even spread awareness to the things I said I would. When I read my letter up there on. On the stage. You know what I'M saying in the courtroom and asked for a second chance to be free. And you gave me that chance. And I won't let you down. You know, I won't let anybody down. Ms. Sing Ching, my lawyer. Ms. Coach Davis, Judge Ingram, I'm so thankful. And I just thank God for using everybody in that courtroom to propel me, because without these situations, I wouldn't be as strong as I am to be able to spread the message.
B
Well, life's tough enough, okay?
A
Right.
B
So we don't need to go to jail to toughen up right now. Right. Like, life. Life brings its own baggage. So you're never gonna see the inside of a jail cell. Yeah, never. Because you don't live that way. And as long as you don't live in a way that is putting you in harm's way, then you don't ever have to go to jail again. And then we can get back to this.
A
These goals.
B
Okay? Because that's what I want to do here, and I want to knock these out real quick, okay? You got your business goals and your personal goals. Okay? You said you wanted a business, but before we get into that, what I want to know is how often are you making music?
A
So I make music, like, every day. Every other day.
B
How often are you in the studio?
A
Every day. Every other day.
B
And you're putting out music all the time.
A
I haven't put out a lot of music recently.
B
Why?
A
It was. It was business. It was just business, like, you know what I'm saying? You. I was signed to a label, okay. And I just didn't like the label. Like, I'm an independent artist. I've always been independent on my music.
B
And I kind of contracted with these guys.
A
No, no, no. So I just. I just got out of that. Okay. And now I'm dropping again.
B
Okay. But you. I don't understand how the business works, so I apologize, but got, like, a little sunset clause.
A
Like, after the project come out. Like, you. They want to use the project to make money off of it as, like, your primary last piece of work.
B
Got it.
A
And then you can sleep again after that.
B
Okay. So how long do you have to wait till you drop?
A
So I had, like, a year.
B
You have a year.
A
I had a year to wait, so I just got out of it.
B
Oh, so now you're ready to go?
A
Yeah.
B
How much you got to drop?
A
Right now, I'm about hundreds and hundreds of songs, but I got a whole project full of new music dropping next month. Like, before I got here, I just had a meeting with A team. And like, we just getting everything ready.
B
Listen, I don't even know where to go with this because most guys, I come in here, tell me, I want a yacht, I want a jet, I want, you know, yada yada, I want a mansion. I want this. And you're like, man, I want to. I want a home to put my family in. I mean, you're so right sized, it's ridiculous. You're showing up for work every day.
A
You do what I do. When you make music, you know, you can get lucky, bro. Like, all it takes is a song where labels come in. They're like, yo, we'll give you a million dollar advance and quarter million dollar marketing budget, you know? But it's about what you do with it. It's financial literacy. And it's been about being able to keep it. Because although, like, I have.
B
Stop. Oh, say it again.
A
It's about. It's not about what you make. It's about being able to keep it and knowing what to do with it. You know what I'm saying?
B
Like, you've got money and talent and discipline and a good soul, most definitely. You can't lose. No, no, no. You cannot lose. It would be impossible for you to lose if you are making music every day and you drop that intentionally. Okay, You. You collab and do a couple tunes with. I would do tunes with your 10 best friends here that are big shots just like you. What's our cat coming on Monday again?
A
Land.
B
Landed.
A
Yeah.
B
Landing Cube. I call him. I call Dex. I'd call Little Xan. I call all of them and say, hey, let's meet me at the thing and let's knock this out. You do one for them, they'll do one for you, and you're done.
A
And I go higher than that. I call future. I call the weekend. I call, like, Rihanna. You know what I'm saying? Like, those type of people who I do songs with at the level that I'm at. Like, I'm at a level.
B
Then. Wait a minute. Then ask them. Make yourself a wish list. Just meh by. Put off till tomorrow what you can do today. Make a wish list. It's only yours.
A
Some people. I want to do a zone.
B
Yeah, but. But shoot for the stars. Travis, this is a stream of consciousness exercise. You're just writing this. That stud jay Z, Eminem, Andre 3000, run DMC. What's important is if you can come up with these mashups, right? And you're back. I'm back. That's today, right? Okay. And and the story of the album is you're with. You're doing these nothing but duos or collabs with other artists or mashups on your own with other artists, right? And so it's like, I'm back with my friends.
A
That's all right.
B
Isn't that hard?
A
Yeah, it's the hardest idea.
B
Yeah, well, that's okay because that's the only one I've got. That's it. That's all I got, dude, I swear to God, I try to be so helpful, you know, the listeners are probably like, again, you are, bro. Yeah. All right, so I. I want to touch on the sentinel thing real quick. Okay? And then we're gonna.
A
All right. Every couple months, somebody dying, but really every day people die from this shit. And it's getting so bad to the point where people are. We're so addicted to pills and they're so expensive now going, I first popped the perk. I can get a whole bottle of RPS for 300 with like 60 pills in there. You know what I'm saying? Now it's like, you buy one RP, you paying $5 over the milligram, or for a perk, 10. They charge 25 for it. Let's just go 15 more. So.
B
And for the press perks, I heard they're two bucks, right?
A
They still gonna probably charge somebody $10 or $8 or something like that, but that's more affordable. And these kids would rather now, if they know how to like not die from it, they'll just take fentanyl and get some more high. Like people not looking for a clean high no more. Not looking for the real thing no more. They're just looking to feel different, just to feel high, to be fried, you know.
B
Why do you think that is, man?
A
The world. What the world's come to, bro? What they push on everybody, bro. Everybody's soul isn't made to be. Everybody's soul not made to be like, oh, I'm on some cool. I'm on some shoot. Everybody up on some pop pill, you know what I'm saying? But they doing it and it's making everybody confused. It's giving them confusion.
B
So these kids, parents will never be the same. Never.
A
This is a stop.
B
Think about it for a second, though. Let's. You've got a 7 year old and twin 4 year olds. Can you imagine? What? You can't even imagine if something happened to them? No, I mean, you'd be dead.
A
I'm probably like, everything just turned gray. Everything will turn dark. I just thought about it when you said it. How would. How would my world change? And it's just, like, right now, I wouldn't really even be able to be here in the state of mind that I'm in. And enough tragic, hard things have already happened to me in my life to the point where, I don't know, like.
B
You know, dude, if something happened to your kids, you'd be on drugs in five minutes. Five minutes, and I wouldn't even be here, okay? It's. It is the most unnatural thing in.
A
The world for people to die before their kid, for the kids to die before them.
B
Absolutely. It's just. It's not. That's not the way it's supposed to be. And, yo, this is why we do this podcast. I don't monetize this thing. This is never gonna. We are never gonna have a commercial here. I'm never gonna. Sponsored by Kiss My.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. No chance ever. Okay? This is a pure thing. It is a pure thing. And, you know, at the end, you know, I got my buddy Jason, who gives this little talk, and he says, look, if anybody ever needs help, call us. We'll take care of you, okay? And that doesn't mean, oh, come to my center, okay? Man, one in 500,000 people can come to my center. I get any business from this podcast to come to Carrera. You go to Carrera is $165,000 a month. Nobody's going to Carrera off this. Off this podcast, okay? The people who are going to call me off this podcast need help, and they can either go to my Affordable Care center, which doesn't have a lot of beds right now. Okay. Or if I can't help them, I'll find them a spot. I find every. We find people treatment who call us every single day just for fun and for free so that no one ever.
A
Feels like nowhere to go.
B
No. That they're not important because they didn't have the money, because that's just not how I'm gonna ever operate in the world.
A
Yeah.
B
Right? So, I mean, this is just. Just for this purpose, for people like you, for a guy like me. Okay? Who knows this? To talk to a guy like you, who everybody loves and every kid. Dude, my daughter's 15. People in her school know who you are. They knew who Little Xan was. They knew who Famous Dex was. They were like, whoa, you guys make a difference in every community because everybody listens to your music. The kids love it.
A
Right?
B
Yeah. How good is that?
A
Yeah, that's great.
B
That's so good. You help so many people here today, for sure. Now we're gonna end, okay? And then you and I are gonna go help your old lady, okay?
A
My show.
B
All right. So where can people reach you, buddy?
A
Instagram. Young bands. I'm young bands on everything. Y U N G ban is ain't nowhere to find me.
B
Old money.
A
See you next Tuesday.
B
If you or a loved one is.
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Struggling, we have a number that you can call and we'll help you find.
B
The best treatment that is right for you. Our company, One Call Placement, is dedicated.
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To helping you and we'll find the.
B
Best treatment that is right for you. So call now at 888-808-6159.
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Again, that's 888-808-6159.
B
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Podcast Summary: "Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation"
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In this compelling episode, host Richard Taite welcomes Yung Bans, a prominent figure in the underground rap scene, who opens up about his personal struggles and triumphs. From a tumultuous upbringing to overcoming addiction, Yung Bans shares insights that aim to inspire and educate listeners about the harsh realities of the fentanyl crisis.
Lack of Positive Role Models: Yung Bans begins by discussing the absence of a positive male role model due to his father’s lifelong incarceration. This gap influenced his early life, teaching him survival but also exposing him to potential pitfalls.
Yung Bans [00:00]: "My father has been incarcerated my whole life... Not having certain things and growing up without it would teach you scarcity and teach you survival."
Commitment to Sobriety: Despite the challenges, Yung Bans emphasizes his commitment to staying sober, maintaining a clear mind, and avoiding substances like lean and pills.
Yung Bans [01:46]: "Clear mind. You know what I'm saying? It just is better for you."
Probation and Discipline: Yung Bans discusses his probation status, highlighting his five-year commitment to staying clean and the discipline it instills.
Yung Bans [01:19]: "For like five years... Five more to go."
Prioritizing Family: A significant portion of the conversation centers on Yung Bans' personal goals, with a strong emphasis on providing a stable home for his family. He reflects on the sacrifices his parents made and his determination to offer his children a better upbringing.
Yung Bans [05:55]: "I want to be able to be there for my kids and not have to be out working... So where I can get them that property, love and passion."
Financial Literacy: Both hosts stress the importance of financial literacy. Yung Bans underscores the necessity of understanding money management to ensure financial stability and generational wealth.
Yung Bans [18:41]: "If you don't know what to do with it, it won't last long. So tighten up, tighten up."
Passing Down Assets: Yung Bans shares his strategy for passing down assets, including owning his music and building businesses that can provide for his family beyond his lifetime.
Yung Bans [15:45]: "I just never sold my music. You know what I'm saying? I own my music."
Impact of Upbringing: Yung Bans delves into how his upbringing without a present father affected his self-esteem and mental health. He acknowledges the importance of self-love and teaching his sons to love themselves despite his own struggles.
Yung Bans [20:01]: "I'm a very strong minded individual... But I deal with those issues... My grandmother was abused as a child..."
Continuous Growth: Both speakers agree on the necessity of ongoing personal development and learning, emphasizing that self-improvement is a lifelong journey.
Host Richard Taite [14:54]: "Nothing is more important than continuing to grow and learn."
Personal Overdose Experience: Yung Bans shares a harrowing personal experience with a fentanyl overdose, highlighting the immediate and long-term effects on his life and family.
Yung Bans [29:19]: "Somebody gave me a fake pill, fake perk... I thought I was gonna die."
Fear for His Children: He expresses deep concern for his children’s safety and well-being amidst the rising fentanyl crisis, illustrating the emotional toll addiction takes on families.
Yung Bans [49:48]: "I just worried about it, bro. I feel like she's going to die."
Societal Reflections: The conversation broadens to discuss how societal pressures and the easy availability of drugs like fentanyl lead to confusion and addiction among the youth.
Yung Bans [49:50]: "The world... their soul isn't made to be... everyone is on some pop pill."
Supporting Addiction Treatment: Host Richard Taite emphasizes his dedication to helping those struggling with addiction, offering resources and support to listeners in need.
Host Richard Taite [52:48]: "We'll find the best treatment that is right for you."
Encouraging Financial Responsibility: Yung Bans reiterates the importance of financial literacy and responsible money management as tools to combat the cycle of addiction and poverty.
Host Richard Taite [17:18]: "Nothing more important than continuing to grow and learn. Nothing."
The episode concludes with both speakers reaffirming their commitment to combating the fentanyl crisis and supporting families affected by addiction. Yung Bans' story serves as a powerful testament to resilience and the importance of making positive changes to inspire the next generation.
yung Bans [38:31]: "My life changed... I made a name for myself being sober."
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This episode of "We're Out of Time" provides a heartfelt and insightful look into Yung Bans' life, shedding light on the broader issues of addiction, mental health, and the fentanyl crisis. Through his story, listeners gain valuable lessons on resilience, financial responsibility, and the importance of supporting one another in times of need.