Landon Cube on Recovery, Music, and the Journey for a Better Life

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Landon Cube on Recovery, Music, and the Journey for a Better Life"

Podcast Information:

• Title: We're Out of Time
• Host/Author: Richard Taite
• Episode: Landon Cube on Recovery, Music, and the Journey for a Better Life
• Release Date: June 3, 2025

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Introduction to Landon Cube

The episode begins with Richard Taite welcoming musician Landon Cube to the "We're Out of Time" podcast. Landon introduces himself, sharing insights into his career and personal life.

• Landon Cube [00:03]: "I'm still, like, not satisfied career-wise, really being consistent and making better music, staying true to myself, the type of music I want to make. But in my personal life, I'm 100% happy."

Personal Life and Happiness

Landon emphasizes the importance of his supportive relationships and contentment outside of his professional endeavors.

• Landon Cube [00:03]: "I have all my really good close friends, my family. I'm really close with them. I have a girlfriend."

He reflects on the loss of peers in the music industry, which influenced his decision to maintain sobriety.

• Landon Cube [00:26]: "Seeing a lot of artists around the same age as me just dying. Now, looking back, it's embarrassing."

Struggles with Addiction

The conversation delves into Landon's past battles with substance abuse, detailing his use of various drugs and the impact on his life.

• Landon Cube [04:03]: "I was, like, pills was, like, my main thing, like Xanax. And then that kind of, like, snowballed into everything else."

• Guest [04:25]: "Coke. A lot of coke. Drank a lot. Did a lot of, like, whippets and psychedelics and whippets."

Landon candidly discusses the severity of his addiction and the methods he employed to combat it.

• Landon Cube [07:00]: "I just tapered off over like, two or three months. By myself."

Journey to Sobriety

Landon shares pivotal moments that led him to seek sobriety, including a DUI arrest that served as a wake-up call.

• Landon Cube [05:21]: "I fell asleep at a red light. My foot was, like, on the brake still. So I was just there and they were trying to wake me up for five minutes."

• Guest [05:40]: "Dude, that's hysterical."

He describes the emotional and psychological challenges he faced while overcoming addiction.

• Landon Cube [07:55]: "It's still like a struggle, but it feels a lot better now."

Impact of the Fentanyl Crisis

The discussion touches upon the pervasive fentanyl crisis, highlighting its dangers and prevalence even within substances Landon used.

• Guest [13:02]: "By 2022, fentanyl was in everything. Now it's getting even worse."

• Landon Cube [13:21]: "It's crazy, but even then when I was doing it, I was pretty conscious of that and I had like test strips and I, I did."

Landon expresses his concerns about the unpredictability of fentanyl contamination in drugs.

• Guest [14:18]: "You're right. It's not foolproof."

Mental Health and the Music Industry

Landon opens up about his mental health struggles, exacerbated by his experiences within the music industry's business aspects.

• Landon Cube [23:35]: "I also kind of just hated the music industry, like, the business side of music. There wasn't anything, like, severely wrong in my life or anything."

• Guest [24:09]: "It's not as fun as just making music and the reward of, like, making music."

He discusses the tension between creative passion and the commercial pressures of the industry.

Creating Music and Artistic Process

The conversation explores Landon's daily music creation habits, his inspirations, and the challenges he faces in maintaining creativity.

• Landon Cube [15:29]: "I have to do more. What's your plan? To be bigger."

• Landon Cube [15:40]: "Just really being consistent and making better music and, and keep putting out good music and staying true to myself."

Landon describes his iterative approach to songwriting, often developing melodies first and crafting lyrics subsequently.

• Landon Cube [15:51]: "I'll play something on guitar, and I kind of just mumble stuff on the microphone until, like, it has a nice melody."

Balancing Personal Life and Career Aspirations

While Landon expresses satisfaction with his personal life, he acknowledges ongoing desires to elevate his music career.

• Landon Cube [14:35]: "I have all my really good close friends, like really great people, my family, I'm really close with them. I have a girlfriend. Everything's great in my personal life. I'm just still working with my career."

He discusses strategies to amplify his musical presence and overcome hesitations related to social media.

• Landon Cube [26:20]: "I'll just set up a camera and film live video of me like singing and playing something and just put the song in the background."

Community and Collaboration in the Music Scene

The host and guest commend the new generation of artists for their collaborative and supportive nature, contrasting it with past rivalries in the industry.

• Guest [25:04]: "You guys are a generation, right? It's so inclusive. And it's like nobody talks smack about anybody."

Landon expresses his preference for organic relationships over structured collaborations.

• Landon Cube [34:23]: "The relationships I have made have been, like, organic. I kind of like it that way."

Inspirations and Future Projects

Landon mentions his favorite artists and upcoming projects, highlighting his commitment to alternative and emotionally resonant music.

• Landon Cube [36:12]: "I put out an EP a couple of months ago called 'Name in the Sky'... There's even a song about the whole drug situation called '25'."

He discusses challenges in releasing music due to perfectionism and the pressures of the industry.

• Landon Cube [27:31]: "I have hundreds of songs, but I get sick of them before I release them."

The guest offers advice on overcoming creative blocks by trusting the input of trusted peers.

• Guest [31:09]: "You got to let your people that know better... Let them tell you what to put on."

Final Thoughts and Contact Information

As the episode wraps up, Landon shares how listeners can connect with him and promotes his latest works.

• Landon Cube [38:46]: "Instagram. Landon Cube. TikTok. Landon von Cube."

He highlights his independent label, Siren, and his stance on major labels' influence on mental health.

• Landon Cube [37:19]: "Major labels are a lot of bull. They don't want to pay for anything, like producer fees. They just don't respond."

Closing Remarks: Richard Taite concludes the episode by reminding listeners of the resources available for those struggling with addiction and encourages them to subscribe, rate, and share the podcast.

• Host [39:14]: "Please subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave a rating and a review and share the 'We're Out of Time' podcast with others who will get value out of it."

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Notable Quotes:

• Landon Cube [00:03]: "I'm still, like, not satisfied career-wise, really being consistent and making better music, staying true to myself."

• Guest [25:04]: "You guys are a generation, right? It's so inclusive. And it's like nobody talks smack about anybody."

• Landon Cube [15:40]: "Just really being consistent and making better music and, and keep putting out good music and staying true to myself."

• Guest [21:02]: "You don't know who Sam Kinison is?"

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This episode offers a deep and honest exploration of Landon Cube's journey through addiction, recovery, and his ongoing pursuit of musical authenticity. His reflections provide valuable insights for listeners navigating similar challenges and aspiring artists striving to maintain their creative integrity amidst external pressures.

Transcript

[Host]

Musician Landon Cube joins the we're out of Time podcast.

[Landon Cube]

I'm still, like, not satisfied. Career wise, really being consistent and making better music, staying true to myself, the type of music I want to make. But in my personal life, I'm 100% happy. Like, I have all my really good close friends, my family. I'm really close with them. I have a girlfriend. I think that's one of the things that, like, made me want to stop, too, was seeing a lot of artists around the same age as me just dying. Now, looking back, it's embarrassing. Well, I fell asleep at a red light somehow. My foot was, like, on the brake still. So I was just there, and they. They were trying to, like, wake me up for five minutes.

[Guest]

Dude, that's hysterical.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, it was. I. I went into jail with my.

[Guest]

With your foot on the.

[Landon Cube]

Break that. That phase. My life is over.

[Host]

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[Guest]

Dude, you just let that lettuce go and you look like Sam Kinison.

[Landon Cube]

What does that mean?

[Guest]

You don't know who Sam Kenison is?

[Landon Cube]

Nah.

[Guest]

You almost laughed like him too.

[Landon Cube]

Really? Who is that?

[Guest]

Sam Kinison?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah. Yeah, it's been love about nine times now. And it's been real every time, folks. Every time. It was gonna last forever.

[Guest]

Sam Kinison is one of the greatest comedians who ever lived. You look like a very thin version of Sam Kinison. Oh, right. Okay, where's my glasses? I. I can't see anything. I. I tried to do it because. Because I was too lazy to clean up. That's my problem. So, man, what's your name again?

[Landon Cube]

I'm Landon Cube. Or Landon Kube is my name, but I always just say land in Cube. It's easier, flows better. So it's spelled Cube, but it's. It's Filipino, so it's Kube.

[Guest]

Oh, nice.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

You're Filipino.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, yeah, half Filipino athlete. Yeah.

[Guest]

Well, you know what? This goes to show you how blind I am now.

[Landon Cube]

What did you think everyone thinks, like, Native American or.

[Guest]

I didn't think anything because I was too excited to eat the Dave's chair. I was so hungry, I couldn't stand it. I mean, seriously. Hold on. Hey, man, how you doing?

[Landon Cube]

Good. How about you, man?

[Guest]

Yeah, good, Good. So you got any clue what. What I am?

[Landon Cube]

Not really. I Heard something. You're like, you. You're friends with Joe Rogan is all I heard.

[Guest]

I'm friends with Joe Rogan.

[Landon Cube]

I thought I heard that.

[Guest]

I never met Joe Rogan. Huh? What do you.

[Landon Cube]

Someone said that.

[Guest]

Who said that?

[Landon Cube]

I think it was Beastly dude. Maybe I'm tripping. Maybe he didn't say anything like that.

[Guest]

That guy wouldn't piss on me to put out a fault. Yeah, that's gonna. That's gonna go over well. All right, man. So tell me about yourself, bro.

[Landon Cube]

I. I'm 27. I make music. I produce, play guitar, perform. I sing, rap a little bit, but, yeah, that's. That's. That's what I do.

[Guest]

And you're obviously, like, the most humble person I've met here. Seriously, because everybody loves you. Everybody. They all think you're the greatest. Who.

[Landon Cube]

Who did you. Who did you talk to?

[Guest]

All of them. All of them. Everybody knows you. Every kid in high school knows you. All these kids, they all love you.

[Landon Cube]

Damn.

[Guest]

Yeah, well, you don't think I have the pulse on the kids there?

[Landon Cube]

You say that.

[Guest]

I got young kids, dude, and they got friends. Yeah. So you're doing really good. So you've. You had problems with drugs, huh?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, yeah. I've been mostly clean for, like, two, ish years. Probably since, like, 2020.

[Guest]

Well, let's go back. What. What were you using?

[Landon Cube]

I was, like. Pills was, like, my main thing, like Xanax. And then that kind of, like, snowballed into everything else, or give it to me because I didn't really, like, give about anything when I was on Zan, so.

[Guest]

Right.

[Landon Cube]

But try everything else. And then it all kind of like.

[Guest]

Well, tell me what you're using. Take your zans. Now. You're. Now your. Your decision making is a little long.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Guest]

And what are you taking?

[Landon Cube]

Coke. A lot of coke. Drank a lot. Did a lot of, like, whippets and psychedelics and whippets. Like, any. Just everything. Yeah, yeah. Up. Yeah. No looking back. It's just, like. It's embarrassing. But I. I learned a lot, like, from. From doing all that, and just. It's definitely that. That phase of my life is over, so it's.

[Guest]

How'd you stop? Well, first of all, did you go to jail? You mean jail time?

[Landon Cube]

I got arrested for dui, so I did, like, a day, but not. Not, like, real real.

[Guest]

Is that case over?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Yeah. Okay.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, I. I fell asleep. 20. 20, I think.

[Guest]

20.

[Landon Cube]

So during COVID Yeah, yeah, I fell asleep.

[Guest]

Dude, you got pulled over during COVID when There wasn't a cop on the street to save your life.

[Landon Cube]

Well, I fell asleep at a red light.

[Guest]

Oh, that's.

[Landon Cube]

I was just, like, there, and somehow my foot was, like, on the brake still. So I was just there and. And they said they were trying to, like, wake me up for five minutes or.

[Guest]

Dude, that's hysterical.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, it was. I went into jail. Like, with my.

[Guest]

With your foot on the break?

[Landon Cube]

No, I had, like, Birkenstocks on my nails, toenails painted and fingernails painted. It was just, like. It was kind of, like, scary. But I was just in there with other people that were in for drug stuff, so it wasn't like, anything. Anything scary. Plus, I was on, like, so much, like, Xanax, I wasn't, like, afraid of anything.

[Guest]

Did you remember to bring your hacky sack?

[Landon Cube]

No, dude, no. But your disri do. No, I. For. I forgot all that, man.

[Guest]

Daniel, the past. You're the best. You're like the hippie rapper. You're the only guy that's like, you've got your own genre. You got your own lane. Am I wrong?

[Landon Cube]

I'm not the only one, but I'd say I have my own thing.

[Guest]

So how'd you get sober?

[Landon Cube]

I just, like. I don't know. It took a while. I went on and off a lot. Like, I got kind of clean, but went back and then.

[Guest]

So you were struggling and you were trying to stay sober, but you could?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah. And then finally, I, like. I had to go to Europe for something, and I was like, I don't want to, like, take a bag full of pills through customs and, like, get caught then, because it's like a. That. That would be up. So I just, like, kind of tapered off of it over, like, a course of, like, two or three months.

[Guest]

By yourself?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, by myself. Because it kind of. It's. It like, gets to a point where, like, when I really wanted to quit is, like, when the people around you, like, don't even, like, care or, like, kind of make effort. They kind of, like. It feels like people, like, give up on you a little bit, and then it's like, well, I have to do this by myself completely. Not that I had to do it by myself, but it just kind of felt like that at that point. So, yeah, I just. I. I still had, like, my pills, and I just kind of did, like, a little bit less and less each day. Like, broken half and then broke it down to, like, half of a half. And eventually, like, the. Before I left, I, like, wasn't taking any, and Then, yeah, and I went to Europe and I was fine. I mean, felt a little weird, but. And it took a while to feel, like, good, I guess, like fully. It's still like a. I. I think it's still like a struggle, but I.

[Guest]

Think now it's two years.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah. Yeah. It's still like. Is. Is it. I'd say it. It feels a lot better now, but it. It felt like a struggle for, like, a really long time.

[Guest]

But you don't. Are you struggling as far as sometimes trying to stay off the pills, or is it. Your head's not completely clear because you were on the pills for so long?

[Landon Cube]

I think it's more that, um, I don't. I'm not like, tempted to go back to it now. Right. Like, how long were you doing it? I first started getting into anything like, I started with like, lean, like most rappers in 2017, maybe early 2018, and.

[Guest]

Then.

[Landon Cube]

Pretty much mostly quit everything by like the end of 2022, beginning of 2023.

[Guest]

Okay, but you were doing that, the lean and the pills in that five year period, Right? How much of it were you. Were you doing it. Were you doing it every day? Were you taking opioids and benzos every day?

[Landon Cube]

Not, not opioids. I. After the lean, I was kind of like a. Something that got. Was like the first, first one, but it was more benzos. It was like the biggest problem I had. And that. That was every day. Yeah.

[Guest]

That's the hardest thing, man, to get off of.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

In my experience. The benzos.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, no, that. That was every day.

[Guest]

Um, I have a buddy of mine that just spent just over three months here. He was on so much that you had to titrate it off for, I think it was a hundred days. Exactly.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

He just left yesterday.

[Landon Cube]

Wow. Yeah, no, it's. It's definitely, definitely sucks. But no, I made it through that and then just never really.

[Guest]

How many, how much were you using at your. At the height.

[Landon Cube]

At the height of. I was like snorting them and probably like 8, 10. 8 to 10 bars. Like, no, like 8 to 10 bar. How many milligrams is a bar? 2 milligrams.

[Guest]

2 milligrams.

[Landon Cube]

So like 16 to 20 milligrams. That was like the worst. Worst I was when I got arrested. And then.

[Guest]

Would you get arrested? Oh, yeah, yeah. Falling asleep. I can't believe it. You know, it's so funny. You're such a good kid. You didn't get arrested doing anything, like, gnarly. Right? He didn't get arrested Doing anything. Marley no get arrested because he fell asleep. So funny.

[Landon Cube]

That's like such a me thing.

[Guest]

What'd you hear? Would you. What are you in here for? I fell asleep. So gnarly.

[Landon Cube]

It was kind of. It was embarrassing too, because there was people in the cell. It was like, probably 20 people in the room with like, bonks. And a lot of the people, like, knew who I was. And like throughout the day, they were like, I think that's him. And then I ended up talking to them and they were like, damn, what are you doing in here?

[Guest]

And you told them? You told them that you were for murder?

[Landon Cube]

No, they were like, damn, you shouldn't be in here. And I was like, no. I got inmates telling me like, about, like, what I should be doing. But yeah, and it was definitely a wake up call. It didn't like, end it though. But I think I got a little bit better after that. But not. Not like fully, you know.

[Guest]

So you're not smoke weed?

[Landon Cube]

No, I smoked a lot of weed since like, very, very young. Like around 12, about 13. And after, like the Xanax and everything, I think because I was depending on like Xanax, like anti anxiety for so long. When I tried to smoke weed after that, I'd have severe panic attacks, like heart feeling. Like I'm having a heart attack kind of. And that never went away. Now if I hit a joint, I'm like sitting there, like, ready to call 91 1.

[Guest]

Really?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah. Yeah. I can't. I can't do it at all. Not anymore.

[Guest]

That is not very gangster.

[Landon Cube]

Not at all. I'm not very angsted, really.

[Guest]

No, you're the best. So when you were loaded, you were doing your music though, right? She blow up when you were on Xanax and.

[Landon Cube]

No, I blew up before.

[Guest]

And then you blow up before you were in. You got into real heavy.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, I was smoking a ton of weed at that time. So when did you blow up?

[Guest]

Like, blow up?

[Landon Cube]

20. End of 2017, early 2018.

[Guest]

Okay. Before you had the problems?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I. I smoked a lot of weed. That was it. No. Yeah. When I got introduced to it, I mean, I had the money to buy like all that and didn't really help that I could buy as much of it as I wanted. So. Yeah.

[Guest]

You'Re lucky. You're lucky, man. You're lucky you didn't die because you were doing this stuff from 2018 to 2022 tube. And, you know, by 2022, fentanyl was in everything.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

You know, and it's now it's getting even worse. I mean, all the time. I think it was like 50% of pills and powder. Maybe 40%, I don't remember. Yeah, that's in 2022. It was laced with fentanyl, now it's 70%.

[Landon Cube]

It's crazy, but even, even then when I was doing it, I was pretty conscious of that and I had like test strips and I, I did.

[Guest]

Yeah, but I did. I know that. And it's better than not doing anything, but just for, just for the kids at home. Okay, you test strip something. Let's say you test strip a pill, right. In different parts of the pill you're going to have different amounts of fentanyl. Right. And the reason is, is because it's not made by a pharmacy. Right. It's not a manufacturer. Right. It's the kind or in a big vat. Okay. So you don't know what you're getting in each pill. So if you test one side of the pill, it could be on the other side or it could be in the middle. Same thing with powder. So it scares me. Is it better than nothing? Absolutely. But it ain't, you know, it ain't foolproof.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, for sure.

[Guest]

So it just scares me, man.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

You don't have kids, do you?

[Landon Cube]

No, no.

[Guest]

When you're a father, it'll start scaring. So you're happy with where you are in your life?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, I mean, I think I'm still like not satisfied career wise, but in my personal life, 100 happy. Like I have all my really good close friends, like really great people, my family, I'm really close with them. I have a girlfriend. Everything's great in my personal life. I'm just, I'm still like working with my career. Obviously I'm never, I feel like I'll never be satisfied fully with that.

[Guest]

Well, where you want to go? What do you want to do?

[Landon Cube]

Just bigger. Just bigger performances.

[Guest]

What are you doing to get bigger?

[Landon Cube]

What do you mean?

[Guest]

Well, I wanted Bill Gates's money, but life's full of disappointments, okay. If I want Bill Gates's money, I gotta have a plan. What's your plan? To be bigger.

[Landon Cube]

I mean, just, just really being consistent and making better music and, and keep, keep putting out good music and. But staying true to myself, the type of music I want to make.

[Guest]

How often do you make music?

[Landon Cube]

I try to every day. I don't succeed every day, but I try to, I try to write stuff.

[Guest]

Or are you just straight off the head?

[Landon Cube]

I'm more, I'm More right now. But it's all, like, in the moment. Like, I've been doing a lot of my own production, so I'll just play something on guitar, and I kind of just mumble stuff on the microphone until, like, it kind of has a nice melody, and then I. Then I kind of write the lyrics to it afterwards.

[Guest]

You're writing every day?

[Landon Cube]

I. I'm not gonna lie and say every day, but I.

[Guest]

When do you write?

[Landon Cube]

I. I try to. I mean, sometimes I try to force myself, but sometimes I just try to write when I'm actually, like, inspired to. Because I feel like sometimes when I try to force it and, like, sit in my room all day, I just kind of go crazy and then. That's right.

[Guest]

Where do you go? You go to a beautiful place. You go to different places all the.

[Landon Cube]

Time at different places? I go to, like, Malibu, where I'll go on hikes. There's a lot of, like, hikes around me. There's one in Chatsworth I go to a lot. It's this big rock. It's called, like, Stony Point Park, I think. But, yeah, just places like that.

[Guest]

One knows where to stalk you. Good job, Eric. Why don't you give your address while you're on it?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, for sure. But, yeah, I just try to, like, get out and live so that I, like, don't. Don't feel like crazy. Like, I'm driving myself crazy.

[Guest]

How many hours a week do you think, on average, you write? Let's go back over the last year. How many hours a week over the last year?

[Landon Cube]

Maybe, like, 10 to 15 hours. Like, maybe, like a couple hours every day.

[Guest]

But you love doing music.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, but I, like, at times I don't. But that's kind of, like, with everything. You're not always gonna love it at all times, but it still is the only thing I really, really enjoy doing in terms of, like, creating stuff and, like, working in general. Like, I still have the moments where, like, it's really rewarding. And then other times where I, like, want to rip my hair out because of it. But it's. I feel like that's kind of normal with. With music, like. But, yeah, I still. I still love it most of the time.

[Guest]

For me, Right. I think I work between 16 and 18 hours a day, and I don't feel like I worked five minutes. Like, I don't feel like I've worked at all. And the reason I don't is because I created the life I wanted. Right? So I've got this new business. I sold a business A while back, and I wasn't allowed to work for five years. So when I could come back to work, I grabbed all my friends, like, 31 of my. My great friends, and they came from the last place I sold to start a startup with me. I'm responsible for, like, all these people that work with me, and I'm responsible for the people who I'm supposed to, you know, help get and stay sober. I feel like I've never worked a day in my life because, you know, if there was no money attached to it, and there was, you know, if I had all the money right to where I didn't need it, this is exactly what I'd be doing anyway, Right?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

It seems to me that, you know, you love your music and you want to be bigger, right? And so everything in life is a compromise. And so you're just gonna have to make a decision because you're happy, man. I mean, you're winning in life. Like, everybody wants what you've got. You're like, no, man, I'm happy. I'm chilling with my girl. Right? You got it all. You're stoked, right? I mean, if you want more, you gotta do more, you know, And I can't. And do you know who John Wooden was?

[Landon Cube]

John Wood? I don't think so.

[Guest]

He was the best men's basketball coach in college ever. And he said, don't mistake activity with achievement. Right? And what that means to me is, oh, you appear busy over there. You're busy. You're a busy little bee, but you're not doing anything. You're not accomplishing anything. You are full of activity with no achievement. And when we procrastinate, when I procrastinate. Right. I fall into that trap. That's why I like what you said. You know, I don't want to do it in my room. I just want to. Sometimes I just want to do it when I'm. When I feel it.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

And if you do and you feel it, don't stop. Okay. Don't let the role killers come. Right. You know what a role killer is?

[Landon Cube]

I don't think so.

[Guest]

So you know when you're working and you just. You. You've been just like, just going at it for hours, and then finally you're. It hits you and you're on a roll, and you're, like, getting more done in it. It's like being in a zone in sports. Yeah, right? Same thing. And then your girl will call you, your kids will call you, your ex will call you. This one will Call you. It's like, you know, just. I call them all role killers.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that. That should. That does happen to me.

[Guest]

Right. Don't get role killed. The second you're, like, on it and you see the phone start blowing up, turn it off. That's. That is a blessing you just got. That was your alarm letting you know you're about to be roll killed, like, and then you stay on that roll until you pass out. Because that's where the magic happens. Okay.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

You see a lot of drugs during your shows and in the. In the underground rap scene?

[Landon Cube]

Uh, yeah. I mean, there's. There's a lot of people doing. Doing that shit. A lot of my, like, people I've worked with and stuff. But not, Not. Not so much like my friends, out of my friends. It was like, kind of just me, which is weird. I just don't hang out with, like, a whole lot of artists and stuff. But, yeah, I mean, you see, like, a lot of artists and a lot of young artists dying and shit sucks. I think that's one of the things that, like, made me want to stop, too, was seeing a lot of artists that were, you know, like, around the same age as me just dying because I never, never really, like, wanted to die. No matter how, like, sad or, like, fucked up I was, I never was like, I don't care. I want to die or anything, so.

[Guest]

But you said you were depressed or unhappy. I don't remember the word you used, but what I felt like was that you were in a massive depression at some point. Is that true or not true?

[Landon Cube]

I'd say it's true just because of, like, all the drugs and shit. Like, it gives you, like, temporary happiness, but then it fucks up your body and fucks up your brain and so.

[Guest]

But that's why you were unhappy. There was not. There was nothing that. That made you.

[Landon Cube]

I think I also kind of just hated the music industry, like, the business side of music. There wasn't anything, like, severely wrong in my life or anything, But I think that was, like, new for me because I went my whole life just making music and enjoying music, but there was times where I felt like I had to, like, kind of put my foot into it because, you know, like, if you want something done right, do it yourself. Sometimes I didn't feel like if things weren't being done right, I had to kind of, like, you know, look in and see what was going wrong.

[Guest]

Right.

[Landon Cube]

And then that. That's. That's just kind of depressing when you make music and Then you see some of the. That happens in the music business and it just like, is not as fun as just making music and the reward of, like, making music.

[Guest]

When was your last show?

[Landon Cube]

My last show?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Landon Cube]

I did Fremont street in Vegas in November. Other than that, I did go to Rolling Loud with my friend Little Skies and I performed with him. But other than that, my own solo show was in November.

[Guest]

Who's the guy that. Where was that Bays?

[Landon Cube]

Vegas. Yeah.

[Guest]

Where in Vegas?

[Landon Cube]

Fremont Street. It's like downtown Vegas. It's like the old Las Vegas.

[Guest]

Oh, I love that.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, like the old Las Vegas strip with the like, lights on the roof.

[Guest]

I love it.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, it was sick because I was performing and I saw like, myself. They had myself like up on the ceiling.

[Guest]

And the one thing that I've gathered from meeting now probably a dozen guys in your genre is you're all friends and you're all cool with each other. It ain't like when I was growing up and you had east side, west side, you know, gangster rap. This is completely different. And you guys have this like, cool vibe with each other and, you know, everybody's doing a gig somewhere. You know, you go get your gigs and bring these guys along and work it out and so forth and so on and keep this thing going. You know, you should be able to do something every other week for sure.

[Landon Cube]

Well, I think the thing right now I'm trying to focus more on like, the music and like, you know, everything's like online and, and the Internet. And I think back, back then it was like touring was like a big. It's still a big thing. It matters. But I think right now. Yeah, well, I think right now I'm working on like, kind of putting myself back in like the, you know, the spotlight and stuff.

[Guest]

Because posting all the time.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I kind of hate posting, but I do it. It's. It's. I'm just not a huge social media guy.

[Guest]

It's okay. I don't know.

[Landon Cube]

Yes.

[Guest]

But in fact, I don't even really know what that means. I just set it because I'm a parrot and I'm parroting something. But you're handling all that stuff.

[Landon Cube]

No. Yeah, I'll just like set up a camera and like a film level video of me like singing and playing something and just put the song in the background, like, just like that. But yeah, that's, that's kind of where I'm at right now. I'm trying to like, get just bigger in that sense, like get my music bigger. So that it makes like more sense to go on tour. Because I feel like if I went on tour right now, it's like, well, I don't have like, I dropped the EP recently, but I didn't drop like a full album or anything. How many songs you got in the offer and the what?

[Guest]

How many songs you got ready to release right now? I mean, that you haven't released yet.

[Landon Cube]

That I'm planning to release or like. Because I have like hundreds of songs that I've done over the years, but I think I just get sick of them. Like, I'll get really excited about them and then like six months later I hadn't put them out yet and like, I made something new that I'm excited about. It's kind of like a, it's a up problem I have like not releasing.

[Guest]

Do you have friends that you can play them for? And because you're not objective about it, you're too hard on yourself about it. Right. Do you have people that, whose opinions you respect that you can let listen to it and see if that's, you know, the one or not?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, I show music to my friends all the time. I have one friend I'm really, It's like my, pretty much my best friend since middle school, Johnny. I show him a lot of music. I show it to my girlfriend. I trust her opinion because we listen to a lot of the same music. So. Yeah. And then like people like and stuff. But then I have this problem with waiting so long to put it out that I don't even like, I'm not excited about it anymore.

[Guest]

Yeah, bro, it doesn't matter. You did it and you were excited about it at some point. And you got to get, you got to get certain out.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

And if you're stuck, which is all that's happening here, you got to let your best friend and your girlfriend and anybody else you respect listen to all that and let them tell you what to put on. You can even call the, the album Loved Ones. Right. Because your loved ones picked out the songs that whatever. I really do think I'm Rick Rubin. I don't stay in my lane at all. I'm like the guy who gives people their families back. And then I get world famous rappers there and I tell them how to do their own. I mean, just out to lunch.

[Landon Cube]

No, I, I, I think I just get, I definitely get like way too in my head about it now versus when I first started. When I first started, like, I'd finish a song and I'd upload it to SoundCloud. And I don't know now, like, it just feels like a little bit more pressure. And I don't know. I think I just. I'm still learning how to, like, manage that.

[Guest]

Okay, well, all that is is you're a bigger deal and you're not going to damage your brand by releasing, okay? So that's. That's responsible. Okay? But you're stuck. Let me give you an example. I had an addiction research fella, okay? Treatment centers don't have addiction research fellows. Universities have addiction research fellows, and we were the only ones happen, because I wanted to know, and I wanted to know quickly. But, Connie, Dr. Scharf is the greatest person. And what I did was I talked in for to my phone for maybe 40 to 60 hours. I forgot what it was. Was a while ago. And I said, this is what our book's about on. Do the outline and do something from this, right? And she's like, no problem. She comes back eight weeks later, she's got a whole book, outline, book, whole thing, right? And it took us three and a half hours to read it line by line and discuss everything. And I'd be like, no, no. Yes. Perfect. Perfect. Babe, is this what we believe? Really? Come on. Right? Yes, perfect, perfect, perfect. We take the notes, right? And she comes back like three weeks later, and she delivers me the book. And I only want to look at the stuff. The red wine. I don't want to look at the whole thing again. I ain't about that. I'm only looking at the stuff we were going to change and then went through the same process. And then when it was done, she brings it back to me two weeks later, and she says, okay, let's go over it again. And I said, no. And she said, what do you mean, no? This book needs to be perfect. And I said, connie, there's no such thing as a perfect book. We can sit here and be stuck all we want, or we can let that fly. And that's it. We put our best foot forward, okay? You put your best foot forward and then you let it fly. Nothing's going to be perfect. But you need is. You need to get back out there, okay? You've got hundreds of songs. Oh, man. You got to let your people that know better, okay? Do it. I think I use this word on the last guy because he was measured. What was my last boy's name? Yeah, Young bands. You know, Young bands.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, yeah. I worked with young bands. We have a song together.

[Guest]

Yeah, Young Bands was here on Friday. So you just Missed him by two days. You should do a song with him.

[Landon Cube]

Well, I have a song with him.

[Guest]

Yeah, but. Okay. But I ate yesterday, and I'm pretty sure I'm going to eat today. Okay, so you should do a song with him.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, I'd work with things again, for sure.

[Guest]

Do it and grab all your other friends and do it, too. Okay. You guys are all so popular, you know, it's like you. You guys should all be doing this together. You guys. You guys are a. Are a generation, right? Done. You guys are different generation. Never see anything like it. It's so inclusive. And it's like nobody talks smack about anybody. It's all good. Everybody's good with everybody. I've never seen anything like that. I don't understand it. I mean, I'm hopeful. Who's your favorite rapper?

[Landon Cube]

Rapper? I don't know who, like, my favorite rapper is anymore, honestly. I listen to a lot of more like, alternative kind of music. I like Dominic F. He's like my favorite probably artist. New, new generation artist.

[Guest]

Really?

[Landon Cube]

He, like. He raps a little too, so that. I guess. Yeah, he's just. He's super dope. I like his music a lot.

[Guest]

Have you done a song with him? No.

[Landon Cube]

Why? I don't know him. I just. I just don't really know.

[Guest]

You have your people contact his people?

[Landon Cube]

I don't know. I think it doesn't always work like that, and I don't like it.

[Guest]

You're right. It doesn't work like that if you don't try. It never works like that. In fact, if you don't try, you can bet it won't work like that.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, but I don't know. A lot of the relationships I have made have been, like, organic. And I've met the people first and then worked with them, and I kind of like it that way. And it's like, dude, you're.

[Guest]

You know what? You're like me. It's like, I swear to God, I will never get on one of those dating apps. Okay? I won't do it. This is your version of dating apps. You're not doing dating apps. You're gonna meet that girl in the supermarket whether you like to or not, right? Unbelievable.

[Landon Cube]

I actually met my girlfriend at the Dominic Light concert.

[Guest]

At which concert?

[Landon Cube]

Dominic Fike. He's like. He's the only artist, like, since I've, like, blown up or whatever that I've actually paid to go, like, see their concert. And I really met her there. I met her through, like, a friend. Like, we met up there. But yeah, I technically met her there. I didn't meet her on the Internet or anything like that.

[Guest]

Pull up this guy. Let me see who this guy. This guy wants to do a song with you. Look at him.

[Landon Cube]

You guys are like separated at birth.

[Guest]

Dude, this guy wants to do something with you. What's wrong with you?

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, I just. I don't know. I don't. I've never met him. We don't have any, like, mutual friends or.

[Guest]

He knows who you walk.

[Landon Cube]

Call him.

[Guest]

Call him up.

[Landon Cube]

Dude, you're not asking.

[Guest]

He just wanted you a song, right?

[Landon Cube]

You can do it, right? Yeah.

[Guest]

Hey, dude, look at how happy you just got. Look at how happy you just got. That inspired you. Just now meet you a song with this guy, it's going to bring something out of you and it's going to inspire you. And just so you know, next time some kid calls you and asks you to do a song again, the answer's yes. Zachary did it with you.

[Landon Cube]

For sure. For sure.

[Guest]

You got anything you want to plug?

[Landon Cube]

I mean, I put out an EP a couple months ago. Was it a couple months ago? It might have been longer. Yeah, it's called Name in the Sky. It's like a bunch of. It's like the. I'm currently, like, liking to make. It's like a lot of the alternative and some, like, emotional. There's even a song about, like, the whole drug situation and being like, happy to be out of that. I don't know if you heard it. You should listen to it. It's called 25.

[Guest]

25.

[Landon Cube]

25. Yeah.

[Guest]

Yeah. Well, I'm gonna hear it. Can I. You own it? You.

[Landon Cube]

I have a label, so. Not technically.

[Guest]

I mean, I like the 25 one because it's topical. But if I'm gonna get a call from.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah, I have a song called Gone that I really like and it's still like, in the same similar, like, genre I like to make now.

[Guest]

And you've never sold it? It's.

[Landon Cube]

There was no. It's independent because I was assigned to a major label and then I wasn't for maybe two years and then I just signed again. So now Siren, it's a. It's an independent label. It's small. They're called, like, Scrappy. Scrappy. It was a small day. I didn't want to do like, the. The major.

[Guest]

Why?

[Landon Cube]

Because it's like, dude, it's a lot. Like, there's just bull with the major labels. Like, once they are not happy with you, then it becomes really hard to put music out and obviously, like, that sucks for my mental health when I can't put music out. And that was. It's just. They didn't like, want to pay for anything. Like, it was just like.

[Guest]

Right.

[Landon Cube]

Like producer fees and stuff like that. Like, it's just they. They were. That or they just plain wouldn't respond to me a lot. And then eventually I got out of the deal, but it just got to the point where I was like, I guess, shelved, you know? Have you ever heard that with like a system?

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Landon Cube]

They just like stop giving. Stop kind of responding to you. So it's hard to. You can't. You can't just upload the music yourself.

[Guest]

You guys gotta put a clause in that thing for an anti. Shelved clause. Like when they've like. Right. I mean, I'm sure that's a thing.

[Landon Cube]

I don't know. I mean, I don't know this. The contracts are like this big.

[Guest]

Right.

[Landon Cube]

And I don't read them. My lawyer does.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Landon Cube]

All the contracts are usually like the same. So the lawyer is.

[Guest]

Well, you're gonna get hosed.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah. The lawyers tell you everything wrong with it. There's a lot of option, but the lawyer's not going to tell you every thing that's up.

[Guest]

Like, he'd be here all week.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

Because it's all skewed towards them. So that's kind of a bummer.

[Landon Cube]

Yeah.

[Guest]

All right, my man. How do people reach you?

[Landon Cube]

Reach me? Instagram. Landon Cube. TikTok. Landon von Cube. I don't use TikTok all that much, but Instagram mainly. Yeah.

[Guest]

Did we leave anything out? Is there anything that you wanted to say?

[Landon Cube]

No, man. I think. I think we covered a lot.

[Guest]

Thanks for coming.

[Landon Cube]

Of course, man. Thank you for having me. See you next Tuesday.

[Host]

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