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Izzy Batras
Izzy Batras, star of HGTV's Izzy Does it, joins the we're out of Time podcast.
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C
I don't think I'm famous. HGTV is a great channel. Like, when I think of fame, I think of Kelsey's old lady, Taylor Swift. Yeah. The way that you're going to get ahead is you work. You don't complain, you don't do any of that. You just work. And if you work hard enough, then you're going to be able to build something.
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Richie Tate
You get arrested when you were a kid. I was go to jail.
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C
I did.
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Richie Tate
Everyone is shocked right now, but it's a redemption story.
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C
And that's why I'm here, because there's a lot of people out there that find themselves in face and they think they're never gonna get out. There's no hope. And I'm just here to tell you guys that there is hope. And there was men with my background that could relate to me, and they started telling me, this is your new walk now. You're not gonna go back to the neighborhood. You're not gonna go back to the streets. We're gonna start this walk together. I see you. You matter. You have purpose. I think that's everybody's desire is to be seen.
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Izzy Batras
We're overwhelmed with gratitude. We're out of Time has reached number three on the Apple Podcasts mental health chart. Thank you for listening, supporting, and sharing this journey with us.
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Richie Tate
Izzy.
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C
Yes, sir.
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Richie Tate
Thank you for coming today. This is a big deal, and I'm very grateful to you.
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C
Well, thank you for inviting me out here, and I'm. I'm was looking forward to this. Yeah.
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Richie Tate
All right, so I want to go through a little story for the people that may or may not know who you are. Tell me about your childhood.
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C
All right. Raised by my mom and dad, migrated, immigrated from Mexico, Durango, Mexico, and Oaxaca, Mexico, to the city of Santa Ana, Orange County, California, back in the 60s. They met in the 60s, and their life, you know, just like anybody's life, trying to seek a better place was pretty rough. You know, murder, chaos. In Mexico, in Mexico, you got to come over here, support the family. All that story that you hear now, people just trying to find refuge. Right?
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Richie Tate
Right.
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C
So they found refuge here in Santa Ana, California. They met and grew up poor. I wouldn't say dirt poor. My wife grew up dirt poor. But my parents, they made it work, got married, they had kids, and they raised three boys, one girl. And it was my life was something of. You got it easy because you were born here.
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Richie Tate
Right.
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C
You know, you don't know what it is to struggle. You don't know what it is to suffer. And the way that you're going to get ahead is you work. You don't complain, you don't do any of that. You just work. And if you work hard enough, then you're going to be able to build.
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Richie Tate
Something that is part of Mexican culture for sure.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
That is the one thing I was doing workers comp law back in the day, and I was representing 16,000 Hispanics. Okay. I. It was rare where we did an MRI on somebody and didn't see discs that were bulging or wow. It was rare. And they never said anything. And the reason they never said anything is because the feeling is if I'm not hurt, then I'm not really working. That's. That's the mindset.
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C
That's the mindset.
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Richie Tate
Yeah. Very. Now, if you, if you disrespect them in any way, shape or form, now you got a problem. Okay. But physically, that they're working with busted backs and everything. So, yeah, that's. That's their, that's their mo. That's the thing.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
So you had that example of a father who did that. So you knew how to work.
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C
So I had the example on my mom's side as she worked. My dad was a hustler. My dad hustled. And you know, when you think of the word hustle, hustler in this day and age, it, you know, it could be described as many things. Right, right. But my, my dad, you know, at seven years old was, you know, sell. Just like when you see the little kids selling cheeklets and all that. He was selling newspapers, he was selling everything. And so that hustle never left them. That entrepreneurship never left them. So he dabbled in a lot of different, I'm gonna say, markets.
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Richie Tate
Your dad was drug dealing. Your dad was drug dealing.
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C
His dad was drug dealing.
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Richie Tate
He can't say it is. He can't say it.
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C
It hasn't been proven. 100. But he dabbled in a lot of different areas.
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Richie Tate
Right.
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C
And he hustled. He worked nine to five jobs. He did construction. He worked for the labor's union. He was in the laborers union. He poured concrete. He did all of that. We built our home. You know, ADUs, before they called ADU.
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Richie Tate
That's how you learned construction.
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C
Oh, yeah, we didn't. I remember my mother calling somebody to come fix the house. Most disrespectful thing you could do to a Mexican father is call it a white contractor. Over to fix the house.
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Richie Tate
Like you call a white contractor.
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C
My mom called up, like, hey, I know somebody. They're gonna. And then once my dad seen the bid, he's like, no, we're not doing this.
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Richie Tate
Right.
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C
So we fixed up the whole house. Like, we reroofed it, I think three times at the time we were there. We built, converted the garage before they were called ADUs. Right. We built an addition. We did all of that. That's how we learned construction.
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Richie Tate
That's awesome.
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C
Yeah, that's awesome. And I hated every minute working with my dad because, you know, they're impatient and they're, they, they train you to, you know, you're, you're, you're just. They talk to you the way men talk to you.
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Richie Tate
I'm scared of how I'm doing it with my kid. I like the way your dad did it with you.
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C
You know, you feel you're too soft with your kid.
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Richie Tate
Yeah. I mean, but he's, he's a good kid. Right. So it's like, what am I. I'm just scared about grit and resilience. Right. Like, we have it because we had to. Right. It scares me. You know, there's this guy came on here, his name is. What's his name? Shin. What's his first name? Jimmy Shin.
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C
Okay.
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Richie Tate
He's a world renowned comedian and he said, tough times make strong people. Strong people make good times. Good times make weak people. Right. Weak people create hard times and on and on. And so it scares me sometimes. I don't know if I'm getting it right or not.
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C
Yeah. I think as a society, we start realizing how you see like the greatest generation that was before us, and you see grandparents, our grandparents. Right. And you see how they built this country and you know, 18, 19, going to war, fighting, and then coming back and building things, and then that's slowly making it, making it easier for their kids. Okay. I don't want them to go through that, what they went through and then us now doing it to our kids. And so you think of as a nation, as a, as a, as a country, we're young, 200 plus years. And you see these empires that they've been around for generations, like generations, hundreds, hundreds of years. And you kind of see it like what you just said right now or your, your boy that. The comedian Jimmy. Yeah. How things become a little bit more diluted and it becomes a little bit more softer. I don't like using the word soft, but that's the word that keeps getting thrown at me.
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Richie Tate
Yeah.
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C
And Are they going to be resilient? I'm sure they're resilient in their own way. So that was. That's one of the balances in running a business.
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Richie Tate
Yeah.
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C
Especially with my daughter is having that balance in my son having that balance of, you know, one to use, when to use the towel. Right. And when to use the rod, having that balance, because the ways.
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Richie Tate
Is that like the carrot and the stick?
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C
Yeah, there you go.
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Richie Tate
Because I don't know if I want to get hit with a rod or a towel. Like. Like, is the towel wet? Is it heavy?
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C
Well, the towel, after you're on. On a fight, you know, you're in a fight in the boxing ring, do the towel, you, you know, take care of them, you throw, you know, take care of them, stuff like that, you know, so it's a balance that I don't think I've. I've. I've, you know, mastered, you know, so. Especially running a family business.
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Richie Tate
Well, you're farther along than I am, and you're working with your daughter, and so that's a good sign. Like, when your kids want to work with you, you raised them right, so. But you got along good with your parents, right?
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C
Oh, yeah.
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Richie Tate
Okay.
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C
My pops was in. In the picture lot. He was there, but not there.
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Richie Tate
Well, he was working every day.
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C
He was working every day. Sometimes, you know, his work would take him out of the household for a few months.
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Richie Tate
Right.
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C
You know, but when he came home, like a good Mexican wife, she'd have the food ready, the tortillas ready. Dad has seen him in weeks sometimes, and he'd come home and he was dad. And you respect your dad. That's the way you were raised.
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Richie Tate
Awesome. So you've mentioned facing addiction early on. What was that chapter like in your life?
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C
Well, in the very beginning, it was great, right, because you're just. I mean, you're having fun.
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Richie Tate
I just stopped. I love that you said that. I love that you said that. Because it is fun. It starts off all fun, then you graduate to fun with problems, and then you graduate to all problems. Sorry, I interrupted you. I just love the honesty.
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C
No, I like that you know that. You know, because usually you hear all the, like, madness and crazy stuff, but it was like, you know, the very beginning, like a Budweiser commercial or Bud Light commercial. They saw the pretty women, everybody's having a good time, six packs, all of that stuff. But it kind of feels that way. In the very beginning, you, you know, you get all the sense of what the drugs do to you. I Started off with drinking, then smoking weed, then, you know, dropping mushrooms, dropping acid, smoking pcp.
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Richie Tate
You were smoking pcp?
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
You gotta check her past, my man. Yeah, smoking PCP is the real thing.
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C
Back in the hood, it was so inexpensive. And that's what you did, you know, you dropped PCP. Put joints and PCPs, they call them lovelies. And that's what we did.
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Richie Tate
Did you get arrested when you were a kid?
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C
I was.
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Richie Tate
Did you go to jail?
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C
I did.
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Richie Tate
Tell me about.
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C
Was.
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Richie Tate
Dude, everybody loves you. Everybody's shocked right now, right?
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
The next thing you know, listen, it's not like he has a ice cream truck parked in front of his house, okay? It's. Come on, this isn't the worst thing in the world.
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C
No, it's not the worst thing, but it's a redemption story. And that's why I'm here.
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Richie Tate
That's why we're hearing it.
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C
That's what we're here, you know, because there's a lot of people out there that find themselves in that place and they think they're never going to get out. There's no hope. And I'm just here to tell you guys that there is hope.
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Richie Tate
So give it to me.
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C
So I've always wanted to get out of the neighborhood, right, because they say you're a product of your environment. So I wanted to get out. I joined the Navy at 17. Navy recruiter had to meet his quota. He says, you want to get out of here? I said, yeah, I need to get out of here because I'll end up dead before I'm 18. So he goes, okay, do you want to join the Navy? I said, will you buy me a 40 ouncer of old English? And he said, yes.
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Richie Tate
Wow, that is a good man. He was willing to go to any length. Do you know his name?
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C
I don't know his name, Star. I don't remember his name. So he takes me out. I do the whole weekend up here in la. There's hundreds of kids, minorities, black, Hispanics, a few white guys, and we're all joining the army forces, you know, Air Force, Marines, Army, Navy. I joined the Navy. Made my allegiance to the flag, came back home, was leaving. I said, where's my 40 ouncer? No kidding. Stopped off a liquor store here in LA. Bought me a 40 ounce of Old English, drank it in the back of his car on the way to my house, told my mama, hey, I'm going to be gone. I joined the Navy. And she's like, you did what? I was like, yeah, I just got to get out of here. My departure date was 1990. June, July, July 5th. I said, I gotta party one more time before I go off to, you know, become a outstanding citizen in four years. Well, that party got me into strong armed robbery and got me into, you know, into jail. And I never.
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Richie Tate
The day before going.
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C
The day? Yeah, before going out. Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Wow.
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C
And I was already 18, so I had to go to the big boys, you know, no juvenile hall.
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Richie Tate
And how long were you in jail for?
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C
They gave me. They gave me three years with the five year joint suspension, and I ended up doing six months in the county.
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Richie Tate
Oh, that sucks.
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C
Yeah. Six months in the county and. And instead of going to four years in the navy, I ended up going down that route. And the judge said, you will never serve our country.
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Richie Tate
Did you?
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C
No. Even after I got out of my recovery, I tried joining again.
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Richie Tate
They wouldn't let you.
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C
They don't want to let me. I said, what about the National Guard? They're like, nah.
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Richie Tate
Really?
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
They wouldn't let somebody who was convicted, right?
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C
Convicted, yeah.
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Richie Tate
Of armed robbery. Was that what it was?
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C
Strong arm.
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Richie Tate
Strong arm robbery. Well, you would think that's kind of like what we want in our soldiers.
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C
No, there's a little bit of violence in it. Yeah.
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Richie Tate
We want our soldiers violent, but we don't take violent people into the military.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Can we get back to common sense now? I mean, it only sounds stupid when you say it out loud, right?
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C
It does, it does. Okay.
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Richie Tate
All right.
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C
This is.
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Richie Tate
This is. Okay.
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C
So.
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Richie Tate
You spent time in a recovery home. How did that come about? And what was that experience like for you.
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C
After I got out? You know, you go down the straight and narrow for a few days and then you go back to your old ways and I went back to my old ways all the way down to. I was 26. I, you know, I graduated into meth and that. And the meth was my choice of dope for 10 years.
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Richie Tate
You smoking it or shooting it?
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C
I was smoking it off the foil paper, the heavy duty Reynolds foil paper with the big pin. Yeah. So, you know, I did that and I couldn't. I couldn't get that monkey off me. And it got pretty bad.
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Richie Tate
How long were you doing that for? 10 years.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
You're unusually clear.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Normally when people do meth for that long, they never make it back. They don't have that clarity and the presence and the connection that you have. They're all over the place.
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C
So with. At my latter part of my. My run using meth, I couldn't Speak a clear sentence. No, my brain was gone.
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Richie Tate
Yeah.
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C
I'm seeing things. Everybody's after me. I couldn't even. I would mumble to people and I would. You know, you'd talk to me and. And I'd look at you and I'd want to say something, but the brain wasn't processing the words, and I couldn't say them.
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Richie Tate
That's right.
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C
That was at the end of my run. And I was like, you know, you do a lot of dirt when you're running the streets and stuff like that. You do dirt. People do dirt with you.
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Richie Tate
What's dirt?
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C
You know, causing pain. Pain being caused by you causing other people pain. You're just in that environment. Right. You're just like the walking dead. Right. People are just eating people. That's the way it is.
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Richie Tate
Yeah.
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C
Right. And so I just felt like my days were numbered. I just felt my days were just. I had maybe one more week to go. And in that process, my brother got better. He went into a Victory Outreach home. Not by choice, but he was court committed.
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Richie Tate
Right.
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C
And the Victory Outreach home in Santa Ana went and petitioned the judge and saying, look, this man has a family. You're just populating the prison. He's going to come out worse. Why don't you give him a shot in our recovery home? And the home director named Pastor Joe Carrillo petitioned him and he offered, Rudy, hey, you could go into our home one year or go three years into prison. Right, Right. So mama didn't raise no fool. So my brother said, okay, let's go into the recovery home now.
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Richie Tate
I heard that. But wait a minute. Let's go back. You were in jail from 18 to 19.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Right. And then you immediately started do continue to do drugs. Until what age did you go into the sober living home?
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C
Until I was 28.
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Richie Tate
Okay, so you lost nine years.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Just lost them.
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C
They're gone. Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Nothing positive during that period of time? Not moving up in your career? Not nothing? No.
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C
Just working off and on jobs, you know.
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Richie Tate
Okay.
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C
But yeah, you're stuck. You're just stuck.
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Richie Tate
I heard that you now have treatment centers.
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C
I don't have treatment centers. I work still with Victory Outreach Ministries.
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Richie Tate
I thought you had one.
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C
No, we don't have a treatment. I don't. My wife and I don't have treatment centers. So the way that the ministry works of Victory Outreach, it's all non. It's a non profit. Sure. You know, like the lowest of the lowest. You're walking in. When I ran a treatment, I ran a treatment Center, I was a home director. So after I got better, my second year, I was a home director for five years.
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Richie Tate
They put you to work. So for. In exchange for free living.
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C
Yeah, in exchange for free living. So I ran a Victor outreach recovery home for several years. And there you have people coming off the, you know, out of the joint, off the streets. You're going, I'm going to skid row and getting guys, hey, you want to change your life? I got a home for you. God did this in my life. He changed my life. I used to be where you're at. Come here and I'll help you. And I brought him into my house, and that's what we did. And so we. My wife and I still do that. One of our properties had a women's recovery home, so we're still very well involved with. I work with cats coming out of our recovery home, training them to run business and still man mentoring them and how to run their business.
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Richie Tate
Kids, you're. You're going straight to heaven. Straight to heaven. All right. How'd you get to the recovery center?
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C
Yeah. So 1998, April 27th. I was already on my last run. I felt like the sentence of death on my neck. Like, I'm not going to make it another week. They're just going to find me dead at some point. And I just. I was raised Catholic, and so I had heard of a purgatory, and I was like, I just need to get into. I know I'm not going to get into heaven. I don't want to go to hell. I just need to get into purgatory. And I called the most religious individual that I knew growing up, and that was my aunt. You know, she didn't shave his. Her legs. She didn't. You know, she was hardcore. I figured, okay, she's. She's the nearest person that I know that's to God. And I didn't know she was Christian and she was a janitor at a church. I called her up, I said, I just need to make peace with God. That's what I told her. I said, I don't think I'm going to be able to live another week out here. I just need to make peace with God. Can you help me? And she said, meet me at this place in an hour. I walked over there. It was a converted church. It was a movie theater converted to a church. No church service, no nothing. And I thought I was just going to go confess, like, hey, you know, and then, you know, have another few days getting high, and then die. That was it. And then hopefully, I make it into purgatory. And when I got there, I just, she just, I just felt something there. And she, you know what? I know now it's the altar. I just started walking toward. They had a big cross. I just started walking towards the cross. It was dark, no church service. It was just her and I. And the minute I got to the front of the altar, Isis broke. Like, I just, like, you know, I never felt bad about doing people wrong, and I didn't feel guilt about stuff, but that moment, I just felt all the heaviness of all the madness and dirt that I did. And I felt remorseful, and I felt like I just needed to get forgiveness. And I asked them to just forgive me for all the dirt that I did and all the people that I wronged. And I, and, and I felt it from that point on. I just, like an immediate transformation happened. I was, I got up, I felt lighter, I felt delivered. And from that day on, no more meth, no more madness. And it was just a miracle. And then from there on, that's where I started. I, I, I knew my brother went to the outreach, Victory Outreach, and he was getting better. And I seen him being transformed. I said, I just, I gotta get to where he's at. And I started connecting there with the men there at church. And there was men with my background that could relate to me. And they started telling me, this is your new walk now. You're not going to go back to the neighborhood. You're not going to go back to the streets. We're going to start this walk together.
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Richie Tate
And then you had this internal compass to where you knew intuitively, I feel the pull. So I'm going that way.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Go against what feels not good to me anymore. That's what I'm hearing. I'm just not going to go in the direction any longer. That doesn't feel clean to me.
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C
Yeah, it's, it was, it's what I know now. Repentance, right? Repentance is you're going one direction and you turn around and you go the opposite direction.
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Richie Tate
So you were genuinely remorseful. You, you genuinely had a spiritual experience in that nobody's going to believe it. Nobody's. I believe it a thousand percent because it's happened to me on many occasions. But go ahead and try to tell that to the average guy on the street. They look at us like we're insane. Right. That's a beautiful story. Tell me about where you met your wife, because I see that you, you always say well, my wife and I. Right. It's not you. It's, you know, you've referred to this as family business. It's clear you're in love with your wife. How'd you meet your wife?
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C
At church. I met her at church.
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Richie Tate
Okay? I did. I, I, I swear. I saw that coming.
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C
Yeah, I met her at church. And what attracted me to her is that the Jesus Club. What's that?
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Richie Tate
The Jesus Club.
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C
The Jesus Glow. No, that wasn't it. That wasn't it. I don't think she had a gloater. Honey. I didn't see a glow on you. And what attracted me to her was her love for the streets. Her love for the streets. And this is what I mean, for her love for the streets. Not like, you know, what we used to do, because she comes from that background too, but her love to go out there and tell the hurting people that are living on the streets that there's a way out. And so we would have what's called evangelism. And those times would be like, we would go into neighborhoods like 10, 12 o' clock at night, and we'd go into neighborhoods and try to pull people out of the neighborhood and get them back to the light.
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Richie Tate
Where would you get them? Where would you put them?
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C
We would take them into the recovery homes.
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Richie Tate
So you'd go pull people right off the street and put them in recovery homes? How could you pay for it? How did you guys. How were you able to afford to give these people the care that they needed?
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C
It was funded through the church, so.
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Richie Tate
There was no red tape. There was just like the, the church was just like, go bring these souls to us and let's care for them.
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C
That's exactly right. And you had other people.
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Richie Tate
You're gonna make me start crying. I don't even know what world I'm living in anymore.
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C
Go on, tell me what's up? What's going on?
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Richie Tate
Dude, I do that. I do that all the time. And I just beat the hell out of myself all the time because I can't do more. We can afford three people for free at a time to take care of, right? But it just, it never feels good, man. Anytime you leave someone behind, it never feels good, you know? That's why I love this church thing. I want to tell you a story real quick about the woman that raised me. And her name was Lydia. And I loved Lydia more than anything in the world. And when she was passing, I put her in this place and I went to see her that day and she says, richie, I don't want to be here. I want to be at home with my family. I said, of course. I. I didn't know better. And I went into the. To the woman who owned the place, and I'm like, look, I need all this stuff at her house. Oh, well, you've already paid for this, and it costs more to be here. And I'm like, hey, I didn't ask you for anything back. We're freeing you up a room. Good for you. Just get her back home, and we're gonna have all this stuff there, okay? She's like, no problem. So she's gonna go the next day, and this chaplain comes in, and she's talked, and he's talking to this woman. And Lydia just looks at me while he's in mid sentence, and she says, I don't know this man. And I'm like, come on, please, please. And she listens to him for another 10 seconds, and she looks at me and she goes, I don't know this man.
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C
Hmm.
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Richie Tate
And he looks at me and he says, what does that mean? And I said, that means thanks for coming. So I showed. So I showed the guy out, and I'm like, what do you want from me? And she looks at me and she says, there's this father. He's in a church in the Valley. I don't know where it is, and I do not know his name, but that's the man I want to see. So I'm like, no problem. I'll figure it out, honey. And I walk out of the room, and I go right into the stairwell, and I just start crying, like, where am I gonna find this guy? And her sweet nephew comes, puts his arms around me, goes, I can find him. So I go, go get that man on the phone for me, please. So I'm talking to this man, and he says to me, I said, I need you here. And he says, I'm sorry, Mr. Tate, but today's Ash Wednesday. It's kind of the biggest day of the year for us. And I couldn't breathe. My throat closed. I couldn't speak. And this is what came out of my mouth. I don't care. God wants you here today. And he heard the desperation, and he said, okay, what's the address? And he came. I wrote this guy. She died the next day. I wrote this guy a letter, and I sent him a letter and $1,000. Now, this is in 20.
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C
19.
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Richie Tate
2020. So it's been five years already. Every year, this man gets the same letter and $1,000 and he will get that until I'm in the ground. Because one day he's going to share that talk amongst his congregation. And the talk is going to be about when they call, you just go. When they call, you go. That's what being a servant of God is. You just go.
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C
You. It reminds me of leaving the 99 to go after that one. And I feel. That's what.
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Richie Tate
Tell me about that. I don't know about that.
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C
Well, you leave the 99 sheep. He left 99 sheep that were fine. But he felt the desperation in your voice, and he felt that that was his main mandate, to go after that one sheep. That is not doing well. So you leave the 99 and you go after that one. And that's what he did. And he be. He. He served you and Lydia, you said, right?
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Richie Tate
Oh, yeah.
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C
And he served Lydia. And that's what a minister is.
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Richie Tate
He was a godly man. And that's. That's the difference. He would have said something to me like, I'm sorry, man, I can't do it because I got to prepare for this talk or that. Dude, you don't have to prepare for anything, okay? What comes out of your mouth is what God wants out of your mouth. Get over here. And. And he did it. He was. That's a. That is that. God is proud.
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C
Well, it also shows the amount of faith that you had, and you had enough faith to go and step out and say, this is what I'm going to do for her. I'm going to go get what she needs now, and I'm going to have enough faith to go speak to this man. That's faith, dude.
- [32:58]
Richie Tate
I would have gone and grabbed him. That guy was coming. He had no choice. He just didn't.
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C
He didn't put him in the van.
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Richie Tate
He didn't know. He didn't know. He had no choice. That guy was coming. That guy.
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C
I'll die. I'm. Throw him in the van for sure. What I'm talking about.
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Richie Tate
No, no. I would have duct taped him to a coffee table and just lifted the coffee table, put it right in the van. Yeah, he's.
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C
That.
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Richie Tate
That was a good man. All right. I appreciate you coming on the show and telling me about your story. Why? Why? I mean, I'm grateful, don't get me wrong. Because it's what we do here. We're the redemption show and you're the. You're a great story, fantastic story. But why here? Why did decide to do this for us today?
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C
I believe in timing. I don't Believe in coincidence? I believe in God ordained moments. That's how my life has worked out. And I checked you out and you still came. It was. It wouldn't have been my first choice.
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Richie Tate
Right.
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C
But hey, but you, you probably heard that before, right?
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Richie Tate
Dude, Every day from, from. From every woman I've ever been with.
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C
Not my first choice, but hey, we'll make it work. But I've shared this story amongst other venues, you know, and I've shared it in, in the prisons in Costa Rica and the prisons in Tijuana and Venezuela on the streets. I've shared my story to that group of people. And you, you have helped so different people in a different socio economic bracket.
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Richie Tate
Is that what you think?
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C
That's what I've read. Right. Cliffside.
- [34:46]
Richie Tate
Right?
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C
Right. And he's just opened up. Is it Carrera?
- [34:49]
Richie Tate
Yeah.
- [34:50]
C
Yeah. So that's not what I'm most proud of. I know, but you're still, you're still helping. You have. I've read you helped over 10, 000 families.
- [34:59]
Richie Tate
Yeah.
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C
And those people I've never been able to reach because I, you know. But you've been able to reach.
- [35:04]
Richie Tate
Right.
- [35:05]
C
And so I felt like this is a good way to, to tell my story and to just share it. Now you're asking me questions that I didn't think I was going to share, like the jail and all that. And I think it's good.
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Richie Tate
I didn't ask you if you were someone's girlfriend in jail. It's like I asked you if you went to jail. Drugs in jail usually go together.
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C
Yeah. Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Methamphetamine, man, that's. You are a miracle that you walked. That you. How long did it must have taken you at least a year to two years to clear your head.
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C
Two years? Yeah, two years. And I think I still see things here.
- [35:46]
Richie Tate
Yeah. A little bit. A little, Little once in a while.
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C
Yeah. And I'm still paranoid.
- [35:50]
Richie Tate
Are you really?
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C
I still. Yeah. I don't. I close the windows when I'm sitting in front of my living room. I still check the door when I'm at a restaurant. I don't. You know, I, I just.
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Richie Tate
That's from the hood. That's, that's, that's not from the drugs. That's from, that's from. That's environmental.
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C
Okay.
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Richie Tate
Yeah.
- [36:09]
C
All right.
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Richie Tate
That's, that's, that's growing up with your head on a swivel, you know, you ain't parking next to a van. Right, Right. You were on a show called Flip or Flop.
- [36:20]
C
That's Where I started as Flip or Flop.
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Richie Tate
Okay. And there were two other main characters on this as well, a guy named Tarek and somebody else, Christina. Christina and Tarek.
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C
Yes.
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Richie Tate
And they were married.
- [36:33]
C
They were the talent. Yes, they were married.
- [36:35]
Richie Tate
Okay. And then they got divorced.
- [36:39]
C
Yes.
- [36:39]
Richie Tate
But they still stayed on the show.
- [36:41]
C
They still continue to make Flip or Flop.
- [36:44]
Richie Tate
Okay. And now they're no longer fighting.
- [36:48]
C
No.
- [36:49]
Richie Tate
And they're like best friends, co parenting. Best friend, co parenting.
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C
Yeah.
- [36:56]
Richie Tate
Right. So they, they love each other, their family. Like they got to the other side of it.
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C
Remarkably, yes.
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Richie Tate
Now I hear that people are having a problem with that. Like they're not in this stuck in this Jerry Springer esque white trash nonsense. Right. That they're actually created this evolvement, this environment that is beneficial to the children. Right. Who's having a problem with this?
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C
Apparently? I didn't know people were. Well, people are, you know, people are people. Right. People are people. And people are always going to want to see the bad in other people. You know, hurt people. Hurt people. You've heard it said. Right. So usually it's the hurt people that are having a problem. They're hurt, they want to hurt others. That's the way it usually goes. And with Tarek and Christina, when I first worked with them on Flip or Flop on hgtv, they, I knew they were always good. You know, they, they, they want to do things, but they're young. Money comes, fame comes, you make bad decisions, you learn from those decisions and you find out what's the true meaning of it all. And at the end, it's family. They made a whole TV show about it too.
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Richie Tate
What TV show?
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C
The Flip Off. The new one.
- [38:16]
Richie Tate
Tell me.
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C
So they got, so they got good at what they're doing and they design and, you know, flip homes and they made the TV show the Flip off and there you could actually see some of the true rawness of what their relationships are. And running a business and co parenting.
- [38:37]
Richie Tate
Really?
- [38:38]
C
Yeah. Season one came out. Yeah.
- [38:40]
Richie Tate
And so this was about. But this was already when they got to the other side.
- [38:46]
C
Once they got to the other side.
- [38:47]
Richie Tate
But the ratings must have been through the roof when they were arguing. Right? Because everybody.
- [38:53]
C
People love that.
- [38:55]
Richie Tate
People love the train wreck, don't they?
- [38:56]
C
Yeah, they love the train wreck, man.
- [38:58]
Richie Tate
And so the ratings were through the roof and now they're loving each other. And how are the ratings?
- [39:05]
C
Ratings are great.
- [39:06]
Richie Tate
Really?
- [39:06]
C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
They don't, they don't need, they don't need like an antagonist to walk in and stir up some nonsense.
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C
Well, you still have a little bit of that in this show. Right? You also have a little bit.
- [39:16]
Richie Tate
Who's that guy? Who's the. Who's the shit disturber? Who's that guy and the show.
- [39:24]
C
So you remind me a lot about a lot of Tarik, just. I do, yeah. Some of your manner.
- [39:29]
Richie Tate
Is he handsome? So handsome. Right?
- [39:33]
C
He's just like, fast. Okay, Right. Fast. Makes decisions and. And thinks about the decisions later if they were good or not.
- [39:40]
Richie Tate
Right. Well, they're his decisions.
- [39:41]
C
Yeah. They're.
- [39:42]
Richie Tate
They're his mistakes to make.
- [39:43]
C
Yeah. Yeah. So. So I would say Tariq's always going to be that guy, huh? Yeah, He's. You don't know what you're going to get from him. Okay, so that. That's it. Yeah.
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Richie Tate
And his. His ex wife. She's great.
- [39:56]
C
Christina's great. Christina's great. Yeah. I was out at her house the last week and, you know, she's. People are always evolving.
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Richie Tate
And she's got a better man now. She's got a better man. She's got another man. She has another guy, and he's got another woman.
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C
He has another woman.
- [40:12]
Richie Tate
I'm asking.
- [40:13]
C
Oh, I wouldn't know that. I wouldn't.
- [40:16]
Richie Tate
Well, they're on the show.
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C
Oh, you're saying Tariq.
- [40:18]
Richie Tate
I'm saying. Yeah.
- [40:20]
C
Okay. Yeah. He's already married. He has already got. Yeah, Heather. Yeah. He's already got kids.
- [40:25]
Richie Tate
These guys just don't miss a beat. It's like, next up, who's on deck? Who's in the hole? Right?
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C
You know, the people have a hard time being alone sometimes.
- [40:35]
Richie Tate
Right?
- [40:36]
C
You know, I mean, people have a hard time being alone sometimes. I am very grateful for their friendship, you know, H. When HGTV gave me my own show, Izzy Does It A Lot.
- [40:47]
Richie Tate
Has the best name of a show ever, by the way.
- [40:50]
C
Tell me where it got from. Tell me where it came from.
- [40:53]
Richie Tate
It came from your name. Izzy does it.
- [40:56]
C
But where did that originate from?
- [40:59]
Richie Tate
Izzy. The name Izzy.
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C
Eric Wright.
- [41:05]
Richie Tate
Easy E. Does it really?
- [41:07]
C
Yeah. NWA really? 1980s gangster rap.
- [41:11]
Richie Tate
So how old are you?
- [41:12]
C
I'm 52.
- [41:13]
Richie Tate
Okay, so we're kind of in the same thing.
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C
Yeah, he made a song called Easy Does It.
- [41:19]
Richie Tate
Really? Easy Does It.
- [41:22]
C
Yeah.
- [41:23]
Richie Tate
Nice.
- [41:23]
C
Go hit that track later on. Make sure there's no kids around.
- [41:27]
Richie Tate
I don't think we can. I don't think you can play that on the outro. Right. We got hammered for that.
- [41:31]
C
Yeah. Yeah.
- [41:33]
Richie Tate
What do you call that?
- [41:35]
C
Copyrights. Yeah, copyrights.
- [41:39]
Richie Tate
Weak.
- [41:40]
C
Okay.
- [41:41]
Richie Tate
Can't even play that. What? I really Want to know is.
- [41:43]
C
Yeah.
- [41:44]
Richie Tate
Flip and Flop was the first show that made famous.
- [41:46]
C
Flip or Flop. Yeah. What's called Flip or Flop?
- [41:49]
Richie Tate
What did I say?
- [41:50]
C
Flip and flop.
- [41:52]
Richie Tate
Okay. Flip or flop. Worst.
- [41:58]
C
Thank God for editing.
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Richie Tate
I'm so bad at this. I'm so bad at this. I suck so bad. He's. Thank God for him. Yeah. This is so horrible. So when you did Flip or Flop, that. That, you know, your first show, it made you famous, dude. What's it like to be famous from not being famous? I mean, I just like that when.
- [42:24]
C
When it.
- [42:25]
Richie Tate
When it. When the light hits and you're like, oh, I'm. I'm a thing. Like, what does that feel like?
- [42:35]
C
It. I don't think I'm famous. See, I. You know, HGTV is a great channel. Like, when I think of fame, I think of Kelsey's old lady, Travis. Kelsey.
- [42:48]
Richie Tate
Oh, oh, Taylor Swift.
- [42:51]
C
Yeah, that's. Yeah, I think.
- [42:54]
Richie Tate
Yeah, she's famous.
- [42:56]
C
That's what I think. Right, okay. But the post found famous, right?
- [42:59]
Richie Tate
No, no. The Pope's nowhere near as fam. Is Taylor Swift.
- [43:03]
C
So that's what I think fame is. Right, Right. You know, people that, like, that's what I consider fame. Like a list kind of cats.
- [43:10]
Richie Tate
Right.
- [43:11]
C
Yeah.
- [43:11]
Richie Tate
Right. So if we're not. So if you're not Taylor Swift, you're nobody.
- [43:16]
C
Yeah, that's what. When I think of fame, that's what I think of. Right. I think of big personalities. And you. You go anywhere in the world, and people will know who you are.
- [43:27]
Richie Tate
Right.
- [43:27]
C
You know, Izzy, bachelors are like, who are you? Did you do my landscape? Where do I know you from?
- [43:32]
Richie Tate
Did you do my. Did you do my.
- [43:33]
C
What do you do? You do my lawn? Where do I know you from?
- [43:37]
Richie Tate
That's so good. Do you know if I would have said that, I would have been canceled. Okay. But, you know, actually, I can't be canceled. Tell me about the new show and your family. And it's called what, the Kardashians.
- [43:49]
C
The Kardashians. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. What's it.
- [43:52]
Richie Tate
What's the show called?
- [43:53]
C
It. Izzy does it.
- [43:54]
Richie Tate
Izzy does It.
- [43:55]
C
Izzy does It. That's how we do it.
- [43:57]
Richie Tate
Izzy does it in family.
- [43:58]
C
Izzy does it. Yeah, it's a family.
- [44:00]
Richie Tate
Stanford and Sons.
- [44:02]
C
It has a little bit of hood in it. Yeah.
- [44:04]
Richie Tate
Does it really?
- [44:04]
C
Yeah, yeah, it tells about it. The fir. The pilot talks a little bit about my background.
- [44:09]
Richie Tate
Huh?
- [44:10]
C
Yeah. And then HGTV shares a little bit about my back.
- [44:13]
Richie Tate
Do they started off with you and a Hammer making big rocks into little rocks.
- [44:17]
C
No. They started off with introducing my dad and how he raised his boys and built a family business. And then now I'm continuing that legacy.
- [44:32]
Richie Tate
And you're teaching the kids how to.
- [44:33]
C
Do it, and now we're teaching the kids how to do it, and we're designing and building homes.
- [44:39]
Richie Tate
That's so cool, man.
- [44:40]
C
It is cool.
- [44:41]
Richie Tate
There's nothing cooler than that because you teach your kids how to fish, man, and they don't ever have to worry about anything. See, that goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning, about the grit and, you know, you. You're actually showing them how to do this. That is so cool. You know, tell me about what your daughter's doing, because I'm so fascinated by it. I love the fact that you're working with your daughter and she's doing the social media stuff, because you could have gotten anybody to do that. Right. But nobody's ever gonna do it for you. Like, you're like your baby girl.
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C
You're exactly dead on on that. Because I had four other people before her, and they could not. They just didn't have the heart and the culture of the company. And when she came on, she blew it up.
- [45:35]
Richie Tate
Yeah.
- [45:36]
C
You know, she just blew it up. And then she's in love with her daddy.
- [45:40]
Richie Tate
So nobody's going to be the cheerleader for you the way your daughter will be. It's just. It's just perfect.
- [45:50]
C
And. And she is not just gonna. She's not just a yes person. You know, you hire other people, sometimes they're just yes people.
- [45:57]
Richie Tate
Right.
- [45:58]
C
But she knows how to, you know, put me in line as well.
- [46:02]
Richie Tate
Right.
- [46:02]
C
And I'm going to receive it from her. She'll say, that's not a good idea, because.
- [46:06]
Richie Tate
Right.
- [46:06]
C
Or she's.
- [46:07]
Richie Tate
In all fairness, we don't know.
- [46:09]
C
We don't know.
- [46:10]
Richie Tate
How would we know? Yeah, I mean, you get a. Like. And you're supposed to be like this. Really. What would be the one piece of advice you would give somebody who is struggling with drugs and alcohol?
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C
The advice that I would give somebody that's struggling with drugs and alcohol or any kind of abusive, you know, behavior is. Is you have to be tired. You have to be tired of wanting to get help and change the advice. I would say then usually I say this when I'm out on the streets talking to people is, are you tired yet? Because if you're not tired, you got one more run in you, one more hit in you, then, you know, you're not going to fully surrender.
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Richie Tate
I'm scared about that, though, man, because, you know, 10 years ago, I'd say, yeah, absolutely, you're a thousand percent correct. Now I'm scared. I'm on the fence. Because, you know, all the street drugs have fentanyl in it.
- [47:19]
C
Yeah.
- [47:19]
Richie Tate
Now 70% of them. Right. So people are dying for these accidental overdoses. So I get scared. I don't. I. I try to talk them out of that. Out of that last run.
- [47:32]
C
So you tell them that. Right. You say, if you're not tired, you don't know what's coming next. And sad to say, you know, some of our guys that went into our recovery home, they go out, they think they got one last run in them. Gone after that fentanyl hit. That's right, gone. And it's not the same dope like it was before. This fentanyl thing takes you out, you're done. And you think you got one last hit in you. Boom. And we're burying people still for coming out of our recovery home.
- [48:06]
Richie Tate
It's the street. The street drugs are killing everybody. If you're not getting prescription drugs from a pharmacy or weed from a dispensary, you're dead. It's not if, it's when.
- [48:22]
C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
And that's the part. That's why I'm so grateful that you're here, man, because people love you. People just love you, you know? And this is powerful, especially in your community, because you know how. How it is in your community. Very proud. Okay. Never want to look bad. Right. Okay. Embarrassed that you have a child like this, Right. Who's struggling and you can't save your ass and your face at the same time. That. That's impossible. You have to choose, you know? Yeah.
- [49:03]
C
I think you become. You have to become vulnerable. Right.
- [49:08]
Richie Tate
For sure.
- [49:09]
C
And that takes humility. And when you're humble, doors open up. God, you know, is a friend to the humble. He opposes the proud, but gives more grace to the humble. And you know, that grace comes when you're humble. And sometimes, you know, you said, you know, you know, saving face and protecting yourself and all that, that's. That's. You got to drop your guard sometimes.
- [49:39]
Richie Tate
Yeah. Well, the good news is, is that if you're not humble, you get beaten into a state of reasonableness.
- [49:46]
C
Oh, you've been there.
- [49:47]
Richie Tate
Yeah. So you get there, whether you're that humble guy or you're not. What keeps you grounded these days? I know the answer. It's going to be perfect. But what keeps you grounded these days?
- [50:01]
C
What keeps me Grounded is just the people that I'm around with. My wife keeps me grounded. My wife, it keeps me grounded. You know, he who finds a wife finds favor with the Lord. And man, she. She's amazing. You know, she. She keeps me grounded. And just being around her, it's just real. And it. Everything is. All the noise is gone.
- [50:30]
Richie Tate
You love her kids just like they're yours?
- [50:32]
C
Oh, yeah. Every day I'm praying for them. Every day I'm looking out for their success. Every day I'm trying to build them up and getting ready for their next phase of their life.
- [50:42]
Richie Tate
And they'll do those kids.
- [50:44]
C
Who's that?
- [50:45]
Richie Tate
How old are your wife's kids?
- [50:47]
C
So Joseph is 24 and Brianna's 22.
- [50:49]
Richie Tate
Oh, so these are. These are both the kids she brought into the marriage.
- [50:54]
C
Yeah.
- [50:55]
Richie Tate
You're like Kenny. You're exactly like Kenny. My. My. My ex's boyfriend loves my children every bit as much as he loves his own.
- [51:07]
C
So your kids that you had at 45 and 47.
- [51:10]
Richie Tate
Yeah.
- [51:11]
C
They're not with you?
- [51:12]
Richie Tate
No, they're. They're eight houses up the street with my ex wife, who is my best friend. Okay. In the world. Okay. I'm like her 67th best friend. But I don't care. She's my best friend. And her man is the closest thing I have to a brother. I mean, he's like. I love him more than anything. Wow. Because I've never met a man ever this good. He's Kenny. Yeah.
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C
All right.
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Richie Tate
Dr. Kenneth Spiel Vogel.
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C
He's Jewish.
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Richie Tate
I got a Jew baby doctor. But it doesn't get better than that. Okay. And he's sitting there, right. With my kids. My kids got a sniffle.
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C
I'm good. Wow.
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Richie Tate
Huh?
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C
Eight houses down. Up, up.
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Richie Tate
Yep. Huh?
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C
Yeah. So you guys are making it work.
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Richie Tate
Making it work. Everywhere I'm weak, he's strong. Everywhere I'm strong, he's weak. We're like the perfect man together.
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C
You see, I wanted that from. From the. Joseph and Brianna's dad, but he was so caught up in his and his own madness. We didn't have that.
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Richie Tate
I'm sorry.
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C
Yeah. And doing the TV show was very therapeutic for us because, you know, I was the stepdad. You know, just. You said something powerful. You're wired to automatically love your dad.
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Richie Tate
You are.
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C
And so I was always, you know, I was the guy, the other guy.
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Richie Tate
That's right.
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C
And so. But doing the TV show together really made us close to each other. We dropped our guard and we worked together on TV doing projects on tv. Then it provided a forum where we had to be amongst each other and even talk things through. And there were times where he. He would be able to talk it through with the. With the production company, and he would just talk about it, and I'd be surprised about him talking about it, and the people would listen. And so he's just being able to talk about it and being able to, you know, communicate. That, I think is a powerful thing.
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Richie Tate
Absolutely, man. Absolutely. You know how people say it's good to be gotten right? It feels that's part of the attraction when you meet somebody, you guys get each other.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
Okay. It. There's a quality of that in therapy.
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C
I agree. I agree. I went through my series of therapy when not being able to have a child. I had to go through that part. And you're right. They. They're. They provide certain tools and conversations that brings healing and. And, Yeah, I agree 100%. Prayer doesn't take care of it. You know, they say just pray about it. You know, you just need other tools sometimes. Even your relationship with the Lord God made therapists, you know, and they have a certain, you know, intuition and gift to be able to help other people out of being stuck.
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Richie Tate
All right, are we ready to make news?
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C
Yeah, let's do it.
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Richie Tate
All right. Give me something newsworthy that nobody knows.
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C
On the realm of. We're hoping to get season two right. We did season one. We'll see what season two looks like.
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Richie Tate
I heard that it was rated in the top 10 of all HGTV shows.
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C
Not of all HGTV, but in this season, we ranked in the top 10. And for it to premiere as a. As a new show. It did. It did fairly well.
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Richie Tate
So of course they're picking it up.
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C
Yeah. So we're. We're happy about that. We're happy that we're one of the very first Latino families on hgtv. Predominantly. It's a different demographic.
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Richie Tate
Last one.
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C
Yeah.
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Richie Tate
If you can go back and talk to your younger self, what would you say?
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C
I would say, like. Like, I see you. You matter. You have purpose.
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Richie Tate
Why does that make you emotional?
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C
Because I think that that's everybody's innate desire is to be seen who didn't.
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Richie Tate
See you as a child.
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C
You know, growing up in a household where. Where it's chaos. You don't. You're. You know, you go find it somewhere else. And that's where I found it. I found it on the streets. I found it wanting to belong. I found purpose in other things, and you get caught up that way. And I. That's what I would say. And that's what I. To any young man, you know, making that connection and really making them feel like there's purpose in their life. If they could find that purpose, then they don't have to go through all the madness and all the chaos and try to belong somewhere where that belong. He's going to take him down a bad, you know, evil street.
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Richie Tate
Can you do me a favor?
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C
Sure.
- [57:08]
Richie Tate
So I've got a friend in the other room who is a huge fan of yours. Her name's Karen. Do you mind if I ask her to come in and ask you one question? Is that cool?
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C
I'm cool with it.
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Richie Tate
All right. I do have one question. As a contractor, and you also have some recovery houses. When you design and build houses, is there anything that you think about to.
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C
Make it more comforting and comfortable for.
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Richie Tate
People with addiction problems?
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C
The colors. You know, design is an antidote to people, to chaos. And if you can make it warm, if you can make it inviting and welcoming by using colors, that's a big thing.
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Richie Tate
What's the happiest color?
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C
What's the happiest color? For me, it's going to be green, because that's my favorite color.
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Richie Tate
Hey, man, nobody's got more patience than you. You are a patient, kind soul. Thank you for coming.
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C
I appreciate that. Thank you.
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Richie Tate
How can people find you?
- [58:19]
C
Instagram at Izzy Batras Google Batches Construction. If you guys need some design build services, Izzy does it. You can still stream it on Discovery and on Max and look out for potentially prayerfully Season 2. Working on a book as well.
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Richie Tate
What book?
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C
We've yet to hit the title yet, but we're working on some of the publishing companies that put out, you know, nice books for people coming out from my background, so working on that as well.
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Richie Tate
Cool.
- [58:54]
C
I appreciate you having me on here, Mr. Tate.
- [58:57]
Richie Tate
Yeah, man, the pleasure is all mine.
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C
See you next Tuesday.
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Richie Tate
There it is.
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Izzy Batras
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