Sean Does Magic: The Magic of Connection and Self-Belief

Summary

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Podcast Summary: We're Out of Time

Episode: Sean Does Magic — The Magic of Connection and Self-Belief

Host: Richard Taite | Guest: Sean Sotaridona (“Sean Does Magic”)
Date: September 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively, witty, and deeply insightful episode, host Richard Taite sits down with Sean Sotaridona, globally known as “Sean Does Magic.” Sean is a wildly popular Dutch-Filipino-American magician and content creator whose meteoric rise on TikTok and YouTube has made him a household name among Gen Z and beyond. The conversation dives into Sean’s origin story, the realities behind viral fame, lessons from rejection, the craft of magic in a digital world, and the core themes of connection, resilience, and believing in oneself—core messages for listeners in a world facing daunting challenges. Along the way, Sean performs jaw-dropping card tricks and shares honest reflections on mental health, self-worth, and the importance of persistence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Sean’s Cultural Background and Viral Journey

• Sean introduces himself as Dutch-Filipino-American, born in the Netherlands but 100% Filipino by blood (01:30).
• Sean details his ascent as a content creator:
  • Over 22 million TikTok followers and 11 million YouTube subscribers (16:09).
  • Career highlights include courtside magician performances at Lakers games, collaborating with Michelle Obama’s drink company, and performing at the Grammys and with Mr. Beast.

The Magic of Making Friends and Fitting In

• Sean’s love for magic began at age 6, inspired by a children’s TV show (“Franklin the Turtle”), and became his “way to fit in” as his family moved often (19:54–21:12).
• Quote:

  “I made friends every place I would move to just because I was just the magic guy. Just do magic for everybody. And so, yeah, that's—it just became the thing.”
  —Sean (20:15)

Resilience Through Rejection: The America’s Got Talent Story

• Sean recounts being rejected multiple times by AGT producers as a young teen but feeling “crushed” never stopped him from trying (24:45–29:08).
• Instead, he doubled down, focusing on building his social media presence in high school.
• Quote:

  “You only fail when you give up. That's really it. So I just kept always thinking about what was next.”
  —Sean relaying his dad’s wisdom (42:17)

Going Viral & Harnessing New Platforms

• Sean’s TikTok stardom boomed when a comedic magic skit garnered 5.5 million views in 2019.
• COVID lockdowns saw his following skyrocket to 12 million by graduation—fulfilling his “write a letter to yourself” high school assignment to move to LA and become a professional magician (29:08–31:03).
• Quote:

  "For seven weeks straight, we grew a million followers."
  —Sean (30:54)

The Pinnacle Moment: AGT Comes Full Circle

• AGT producers eventually call Sean to skip auditions and perform for the judges live (36:00).
• The performance initially receives poor feedback, but Sean fights for “30 more seconds” to perform his best trick. The crowd convinces the judges, he gets a standing ovation and four yeses (37:40–39:14).
• Memorable Quote:

  “I tell Howie Mandel...‘Give me 30 more seconds...Let me just perform to you one trick and I will blow you away.’ They weren’t having it, but the crowd wanted me to do one more trick.”
  —Sean (38:57)

Resilience and Self-Belief

• Richard emphasizes the importance of not taking “no” for an answer; Sean reflects on how each rejection could have led to despair, but persistence was key.
• Quote:

  “Living in the sadness won't change anything. I don't think that if, you know, I can feel sorry for myself for years, it wouldn't get me any closer to getting a yes.”
  —Sean (42:55)

Magic, Connection, and Representation

• Discussing his Filipino roots, Sean shares how his grounded personality and work ethic come from family and culture (18:16).
• Magic is both an art and emotional bridge:

  “I blend sleight of hand tricks with comedy, aiming to make people feel like kids again.” —(18:16)

Performing Live Magic on the Podcast

• Multiple interactive card tricks wow the host on air, showcasing sleight of hand and instant social media “bio” predictions (31:03–49:01).
• Memorable Moment:
  When Sean reveals a selected card as the host reads Sean’s Instagram bio:

  “You picked the five of hearts...How the hell did you do that?!”
  —Richard (48:53–49:01)

The Psychology and Platform of Viral Magic

• According to Sean, TikTok magic works because it offers “a quick...trick in like 10 seconds and amaze you,” perfectly matching the platform's fast pace (46:46–47:16).
• Sean briefly demonstrates and explains ultra-fast tricks and the dynamics of audience attention online.

Honesty about Show Business

• Even after his big AGT moment, only select acts make it on-air—Sean’s wasn’t, but he shares:

  “The next time I’ll be on that show is when I’m judging it or hosting it. So I’m waiting for that day.”
  —Sean (45:00–46:14)

Looking Ahead: New Ventures and Ambitions

• Sean is breaking into traditional media, starring as a lead in the upcoming Paramount+ film “My Weird School”—where he plays a 14-year-old due to his youthful appearance (49:35).
• He sets an intention to one day host the Oscars, using a running “shoutout” on every podcast episode as a future manifestation (50:02).
• Quote:

  “Hello, future Oscars. It’s your host, Sean. Anyways, because it’s going to happen.”
  —Sean (50:02)

Wisdom on Family, Growth, and True Wealth

• Richard delivers heartfelt advice about fatherhood, resilience, and wealth coming from love, not money:

  “Children make you a fortune. They don’t cost you money ever. And it’s the only love that matters. It really is.”
  —Richard (44:44)

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Highlighted Quotes & Timestamps

• “I made friends every place I would move to just because I was just the magic guy...” (20:15, Sean)
• “You only fail when you give up. That's really it.” (42:17, Sean)
• “Give me 30 more seconds. Let me just perform to you one trick and I will blow you away.” (38:57, Sean)
• “Living in the sadness won't change anything.” (42:55, Sean)
• “Hello, future Oscars. It’s your host, Sean.” (50:02, Sean)
• “Children make you a fortune. They don’t cost you money ever.” (44:44, Richard)

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|-------------------------------------------------| | 01:30 | Sean’s cultural identity and origin story | | 16:09 | Social media milestones (22M TikTok, 11M YT) | | 19:54 | Magic as a tool for connection & childhood | | 24:45 | Rejected by America's Got Talent: Origin story | | 29:08 | Viral TikTok breakthrough & “letter to self” | | 36:00 | AGT full-circle call & backstage moment | | 38:57 | Fighting for “30 more seconds” on AGT | | 42:17 | Overcoming sadness and advice from his dad | | 44:44 | Richard on the meaning of family & children | | 46:46 | Why magic thrives on TikTok | | 48:53 | Mind-blowing Instagram card trick revealed | | 49:35 | Announcing new movie & setting Oscars goal |

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Tone and Style

The tone is irreverent, playful, and honest—full of comedic asides, warmth, and self-effacing humor, especially from Richard. Sean remains humble, open, and focused on connecting through his story and talents.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Resilience is Power: Success is often found just after “one more try.” Sean’s story embodies not giving up, even after repeated rejections.
• Connection over Perfection: Magic, for Sean, is more about making people feel wonder and forging bonds, not just dazzling with tricks.
• Self-Belief is Magic: Believing in your worth, even when others don’t see it, can unlock your dreams.
• Manifest Your Ambitions: Speak—and work—your dreams into reality, one step and shoutout at a time.
• Find Your ‘Something’: Like Sean and his magic, everyone has something unique that can help them fit in and stand out.

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For more, follow Sean Does Magic and watch for his upcoming work in film and (potentially!) as a future Oscars host.

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Transcript

[A]

Magician and content creator Sean Sotaridona joins the we're out of Time podcast.

[B]

We filmed a video, and it's my most viral video that I've ever filmed was courtside at the Lakers. LeBron James was right in front of me. Half a billion views on that video.

[C]

Half a billion. Collaborated with Michelle Obama.

[B]

Yeah. Or her. Her drink company. I visited the White House to meet with some representatives. I was just there being like, you know, I make a living doing social media. It would be awesome if you didn't ban this app. I made friends every place I would move to just because I was just the magic guy. I would just do magic for everybody. And then I would watch America's Got, and I would see kid magicians and teen magicians on there. I'm like, I can do that.

[A]

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[C]

You know, if someone has a problem with substance use disorder, please call one call placement. That's 888-831-1581. And if we can't help you, we'll make a referral to someone who can. Please, we're out of Time. All right, Sean, say your last.

[B]

Sara Donna.

[C]

Yeah, that ain't happening. Known as Sean Does Magic, that is me, is a Dutch American magician. Dutch American musician.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I was born in the Netherlands, but I'm 100 Filipino, so. Dutch. Filipino American, technically.

[C]

Okay. You were born in.

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In the Netherlands.

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The Netherlands, yeah. Okay. The Netherlands speak Dutch?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Or the Dutch speak Netherlands.

[B]

It's the Netherlands speak Dutch.

[C]

Okay, cool. Sorry. I work around the flock.

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Right.

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I'm the ugly American. I never could be in anywhere just because I don't have anyone to go with.

[B]

Right. Is this a pitch we pitching?

[C]

Hey, hey. You can always hope. But I will tell you this, okay? It's very hard for a 59 year old man, okay. To meet anybody of quality in Los Angeles.

[B]

That's very specifically in la. Yeah.

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Right.

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Imagine.

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Yeah. And the young girls.

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Yeah. With the.

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The kissy face.

[B]

Right?

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Yeah. Or the dancing to the lip sync music. If I see that.

[B]

Yeah. It's just.

[C]

And you'll see the most beautiful girl and she'll be age appropriate, right?

[B]

Yeah.

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In her 40s, mid to late 40s. And. And then they're doing and singing with. I mean, just. Man.

[B]

Right. Act your age. Yeah.

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I can't do it. I mean, I don't mean, I don't mean to be the old guy, right. Screaming, get off my lawn. But you know, this is kind of lame, right?

[B]

They can't relate because I'm engaged, but yeah, for sure.

[C]

Right. It's either that nonsense or they've got cats. I can't.

[B]

What is up with all these cats?

[C]

I hate.

[B]

Everybody has cats.

[C]

Well, it's not that I hate the cats. It just. You call a cat and it looks at you side eyes you and it's like, what am I, a dog?

[B]

Right.

[C]

Beat it, idiot. Just feed me. Just feed me and give me a ball of yarn to with and I'm good.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

All right. You're a content creator.

[B]

Yes.

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With over 22 million. Tik Tok. Shut up.

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Yeah.

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You got 22 million.

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Yeah.

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For the magic.

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Yeah, magic. People love magic.

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How many fingers do I have up under my.

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At least one. I'm good. I know I am good.

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I.

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This is why I have 22 million.

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Followers CT in Europe. Hysterical.

[B]

I know.

[C]

You know the only. You know what came up for me?

[B]

What?

[C]

I was in a. I was losing all these houses. Yeah. In. In multiples. Oh, right, Multiples. So it was like, you know, you go in and then a group of investors comes in and they, they do, you know, 5% over asking.

[B]

Yes. Okay.

[C]

When you said that, it was so beautiful that the thing that came up for me was, was I was sick and tired of losing houses. So we, so we. Yeah. So we. To buy.

[B]

Yes.

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So we went ahead and, you know, you're in multiples. And I finally figured it out. Okay. All I said was, you know, these offers are in, they're going to be accepted. It doesn't matter. This is a one shot thing and we're up against five people. Right. And so it's got to be at 5 o'. Clock. So at 4:45, I sent it in and I said, my offer is $50,000 more than anybody else's offer. No disrespect, but I need, I need an answer in 30 minutes or the offer is gone and I'm gone.

[B]

Right, Right. Great, Great. Way to go about it.

[C]

More than one. More than one. More than 1 you just did the same thing I did. You said more than one.

[B]

So you're saying I should invest in homes? That's what you're saying?

[C]

No, not at all. All.

[B]

Though.

[C]

But no, no problem. I mean, you're making a ton of money, right?

[B]

Doing all right.

[C]

You got a home?

[B]

I got properties in the Philippines, but, yeah.

[C]

You do?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. You going to get a place out here?

[B]

I want to. That's the goal. Uhhuh. For this year, specifically. You got saved, like. What do you mean? Like, liquid? Yeah, like, in my bank, like, around.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You got anything that you want to get rid of in order to get well?

[B]

Right now, here's the thing is we're saving up for a wedding, so it's like, I'm trying to. Trying to do both.

[C]

That's so sweet, man. You getting married?

[B]

Yeah. So it's kind of like the goal is I would love a lot more liquid so that, you know, I'm more comfortable just, like, throwing it out.

[C]

Filipino?

[B]

No, she's Australian.

[C]

She's Australian?

[B]

Yeah.

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Too bad she's not American, right? And she's American. Her daddy pays for the. For the wedding.

[B]

Is that. Is that how that works?

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Are you an American citizen?

[B]

I am. Well, how.

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When. Why didn't you get that memo?

[B]

I don't know. I never. I never. No one told me this.

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Is she friends? She. Is she close with her dad?

[B]

Yeah, very close.

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Is dad got any cheese?

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I mean, he just retired, so I'm. Yeah.

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Oh, God.

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Is this something I should know? Dude, I'm 23. I.

[C]

23 years old. You're supposed to be saving for your future and. And. And getting a home and building a family.

[B]

That's the goal. That's the goal this year. That's the goal this year. I'm really trying, man.

[C]

Call your old lady's father and go, can I get a little help here?

[B]

Right. I mean, I think we're doing okay. I don't think I. I don't think we.

[C]

All right.

[B]

I don't think we need his help.

[C]

I can't stop running my mouth, dude.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's okay.

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Look, if we're friends, we tell each other.

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Yes. Yes.

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Okay. All right, here we go. He started magic at age 6, inspired by a children's show.

[B]

That's correct.

[C]

And began posting on YouTube at 8, 10. Okay. After early rejections from America's Got Talent, he found massive success on TikTok in 2019 with his second video getting 5.5 million views. He has performed at the Grammys. Shut up.

[B]

Okay. We perform magic during the Grammys. At the Grammys. But not actually on stage. No. That's a little bit of a stretch.

[C]

Okay. He has performed at the Grammys. Courtside at Laker Games.

[B]

Correct.

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Do you get a seat there at courtside?

[B]

Yes.

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Shut up. What was that experience like?

[B]

Oh, it was insane. It was incredible. We were.

[C]

I was middle, or are you behind the basket?

[B]

Center, Very center. Middle court. Like the most prime seats possible.

[C]

We filmed our video Play the prime seats. Because you go like this and like this and like this, and your neck's going to.

[B]

Yeah, but LeBron James was right in front of me. Like, it was the most, like, right here. Like, you know, I mean, and we filmed a video and is. My most viral video that I've. I've ever filmed was courtside at the Lakers.

[C]

No kidding.

[B]

Yeah. Half a billion views on that video.

[C]

Half a billion. You're kidding.

[B]

No, not joking.

[C]

Good for you, man.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

That was a good experience. You know, I. I do about four to six games a year.

[B]

Yeah. Lakers.

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Yeah. And I was dating a girl that really loved it. Right. And so we'd sit on the floor, but it's so expensive that I feel like God's going to take all my money. Right. So I'm like, can we do it four times? Do.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Dude, that's it. Four times this year, right?

[B]

Four.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So, you know, that's, like a nice car.

[C]

I go to see the warrior. Dude. It's a really nice car.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I felt, like, so wasteful, but whatever. All right. He has performed at the Grammys, Courtside at Laker Games. Collaborated with Michelle. Shut up. You collaborated with Michelle Obama?

[B]

Yeah, or her. Her drink company. Plessy, is one of my, like, big sponsors for the last couple years.

[C]

She's got a. A Plesi.

[B]

Yeah, it's a. It's a drink. It's a kids drink. Way less sugar. Not. Not that I'm being paid to say this, but it's like a very healthy kids drink. And. Yeah, they'd make, like, healthy sod. Healthy juice boxes. And I work with that company a lot.

[C]

Yeah, I didn't know that.

[B]

Yeah, it's in Target.

[C]

It is?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Good.

[B]

Yeah, that's great.

[C]

I'd like a. An option that doesn't cause cancer and obesity, right?

[B]

No, no, it's great. I mean, in a typical juice box, it has the amount of sugar that you should be drinking or that you should have in a single day, which is just so bad for kids. And so they've cut that by like, I think a fourth of the sugar, which is just great.

[C]

Three fourths or a fourth.

[B]

They, they cut it by three fourths. There's only four of the sugar there. Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Because a quarter, it's like not that.

[B]

Much of an impact.

[C]

But no, I, I met President Obama.

[B]

No chance.

[C]

I met him. I met him and it was great. I want to meet the new president too.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I'm yet to actually. I visited the White House one time.

[C]

Do you know how pissed I am that this 23 year old visited the White House? And I didn't. So I didn't.

[B]

I didn't meet any presidents, but I visited the White House. That's better to meet with some representatives, actually, so that we could get Tick tock. Not banned, actually. So that. So not for anything cool. I was just there being like, hey, I'm, you know, I make a living doing social media. It would be awesome if you didn't ban this app.

[C]

Right? It should be banned. It should be banned. It should be banned.

[B]

Why do you say that?

[C]

Because it's a national security issue.

[B]

I don't know much. I mean, this is why I know.

[C]

23 year olds know about national security issues.

[B]

I don't really look at the national security issues too much, but I do know that there's a lot of businesses that run through TikTok and I think that it's a great platform. If we're able to clear the national security issues, then for sure. I think that there should be an app that runs like TikTok.

[C]

Right. Well, if we can do that, then it doesn't matter. But we're not doing that. Okay. And you know, we're kind of a race with China.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, I don't know. I mean, I don't want that.

[C]

I don't want my lights turned off. Okay. I don't want my Internet to go down. If your Internet goes down, you're like, what's going on here? Like, we don't know how to read anymore.

[B]

I don't.

[C]

I know how to read, but not a newspaper or a book.

[B]

I mean, right?

[C]

I mean, come on, man.

[B]

I don't remember the last time I touched the newspaper. I don't know if I've touched the newspaper actually, now that I think about it.

[C]

That's so great. Yeah, you kids do.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No, and I guess, you know, I mean.

[B]

And what's that material? It's like the worst. They make out of the worst material. Never mind.

[C]

You know what you can do though? What actually Read it. Okay. Because your phone is like, you know.

[B]

I gotta turn it to the side.

[C]

Yes, do this. And right. You know, it's like, you know, you get older, you get blind. Right?

[B]

It's good. I'm happy, man.

[C]

Okay. With Michelle Obama, Kevin Hart and Mr. Beast.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

Okay. Mr. Beast is cool.

[B]

Yes. He's a great guy.

[C]

He's great.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, you know what I don't want.

[B]

What do you not want?

[C]

I'm watching a video of his and he's got people, you know, in a room that's all white with lights, that are just abusive. Right, right. You got to stay there for a hundred.

[B]

Yes. You. Would you do that for a hundred million?

[C]

Not for a hundred thousand.

[B]

Right, right.

[C]

Okay. Hey, Mr. Beast, you want to abuse me for 30 days and give me $100 million all the time? Okay, I'm not that proud.

[B]

So just add a couple more zeros to the prize pool. Yeah, I think, I think Beast Games was 10 million.

[C]

If he can do this, if he gives me a hundred million, the first thing I'm doing is I'm giving you a million dollars.

[B]

I don't think I'm gonna get a million, do. I don't think you're gonna.

[C]

Dude, just comedy.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[C]

I'm not a comedian, but I don't get any. I don't have people here. I'm like, you know, I have no social outlet. So when they come, I just. All I do Right. Is, you know, kind of hold you hostage.

[B]

Gotcha.

[C]

Wow. I'm doing it.

[B]

You're Mr. Beast? Oh, no, not Mr.

[C]

Beast. Mr. Beast is funny.

[B]

Yeah, he's interesting.

[C]

Dude. He does good things.

[B]

Yeah, he does. He does great things.

[C]

Yeah, he does great things. I. I love him. Okay. Are you feeling secure with your million dollars?

[B]

Yeah, I'm, I've, you know, I'm. I'm gonna make it another way. It's fine. We'll figure it out.

[C]

No, you know what's going to happen? This, this guy's going to see this. He's like that old man, okay, get. And he's going to have you on, right? And he's going to give you a million dollars.

[B]

Just me?

[C]

Just. Yeah, just you.

[B]

Just to spite you.

[C]

For sure. Sure, for sure.

[B]

Well, I will say this. I've done, you know, last year, I don't know how familiar you are with, like, rap beef that happened last year with, like, Drake and Kendrick Lamar. They were like, oh, my God.

[C]

That is something I've studied. Like, I can't tell if you're joking, Magnifying. Glass.

[B]

There's no way you've studied that. Like, no. Okay. Well, there was a big rap eve last year, and I wanted to bring that same energy to YouTube, so I did a diss track on Mr. Beast. So I don't think he's going to be getting me a million dollars anytime soon.

[C]

Yeah, you ain't getting a million dollars.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not getting a million dollars. Sorry, Jimmy, That's.

[C]

Yeah, you ain't get a million dollars, and you're going to be broke after the wedding.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I think to be the bearer.

[B]

I know. It's. It's already. It's stacking up.

[C]

I know. Dude, you're the best. You're such a good person.

[B]

Am I?

[C]

Yeah, you are. Really. You're engaging.

[B]

Oh, thanks, man.

[C]

You're fun, funny, and you've got your whole world ahead of you, and I wish you nothing but the best because.

[B]

That was very sweet. Thank good soul, man. I appreciate that.

[C]

All the good souls come here. All right.

[B]

And they're entourages. Yes.

[C]

They're more of posies.

[B]

Yes. Right. Okay.

[C]

Well, I don't know. Are they entourages?

[B]

I don't know. I don't know. I've. I've heard it all.

[C]

The SoundCloud concerts where they jump up and down. They all have their short shirts off.

[B]

Yes. And they're just pushing each other. Yeah. No, I have not. I have a lot of.

[C]

I love him. That sounds like hell to me.

[B]

Worst night ever. Yeah.

[C]

Night ever.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Only worst time that I think that you can have, other than that. Is going to Disneyland.

[B]

Very. No, I say this. I say this. I can't. What is. An hour wait for a ride is crazy, dude.

[C]

I don't even wait for a ride. I walk right in.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[C]

And it's still horseshit. It is the worst. It is. It is not the happiest place on Earth. It is the unhappiest place on earth.

[B]

Even when you skip the line, the rides aren't that bad.

[C]

Dude, the whole thing's bad. Whole thing's bad. Hold on. 22 million TikTok followers and 400 million likes. Okay. Plus 5 million on YouTube subscribers. You got 5 million YouTube subscribers?

[B]

This might be outdated. I have 11 million now.

[C]

Dude, I got like 90,000. I'm so.

[B]

No, you're almost at the plaque. You're going to get plaque. The plaque soon.

[C]

Oh, great. I'm going to get a plaque.

[B]

This is 100. It says your name. It says 100,000 subscribers.

[C]

That shit's going in the. Hey, when that shit gets here. Put it in the. In the closet with the rest of the covers and that I've got. This is crazy. This is sick. I mean, magic.

[B]

Yeah, magic.

[C]

You've been to Magic Castle?

[B]

Yes, I have been.

[C]

You. You perform there?

[B]

Not. I'm not, like, a regular, but I've performed there, but mainly recently. Like, I've only been there. We're shooting something there.

[C]

Are you considered to be a good musician?

[B]

I. Musician.

[C]

Are you? Are you? Yeah. You're a musician? Have you.

[B]

I'm a horrible musician. You do not want me to sing?

[C]

Me, too. Are you a good magician?

[B]

I would like to say I'm a great magician. Yeah.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Like, incredible. Phenomenal. Fantastic.

[C]

How long have you been doing it? Since.

[B]

Since I was six years old. Yeah. Long time. Lot. A lot of years with no friends or your friends.

[C]

It's okay. Hey, man. My buddy who passed away.

[B]

Rest in peace.

[C]

Yeah, rest in peace. And he went ahead and. He was a fantastic musician. Music magician.

[B]

Magician.

[C]

He was a fantastic magician, and I loved it as a kid. He. He had us all there, and we were just. I mean, okay. He didn't have a lot of friends.

[B]

But it's a common theme, you know?

[C]

And he's really the only person who would be my friend. But, yeah, cut that. All right, here we go. He start. I should just read. He blends sleight of hand tricks with comedy, aiming to make people feel like kids again. Sweet. Proud of his Filipino heritage, he attributes his grounded personality and work ethic to it.

[B]

That is correct.

[C]

Yeah. Tiger Mom.

[B]

What? What does that mean?

[C]

Like, you know, like, in some Asian cultures. I don't know if it's Filipino, but they walk around with a ruler and they say, right. God damn it, I told you. An A plus.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. My parents were very academic focused, but they weren't like that. Okay, then.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[B]

Maybe they should have. I would have been smarter.

[C]

Did they make you go to bed hungry?

[B]

No, no, no. Forgetting an A. Look. Does it look like I went to bed hungry? I don't think.

[C]

You'Re the best. All right. You started performing magic at age 6.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

What drew you to it so strongly?

[B]

Well, I mean, to be honest, I feel like a lot of kids, you know, either, like, learn a magic trick from, like, TV or, like, see magicians. You know, kids. Magic is a very kid thing. Right. You perform it for kids, and they're very mesmerized. So when I was a kid, I got, you know, I would watch TV shows that would do magic. There was an episode of Franklin the Turtle. I don't know if you've ever seen that show before, but it was like a cartoon turtle.

[C]

I know more about the rift than I know about the turtle.

[B]

I.

[C]

The beef with the. With the rappers. I know more about that.

[B]

Well, there's a. There's a turtle, and he's a cartoon turtle for kids. And he did magic one episode, and I just got hooked up into it, and I started performing for a lot of my classmates. And this was like 6 years old, like, kindergarten, first grade. And my family moved a lot. When I was, you know, growing up, we. We didn't stay in one place for more than a couple years, and so we were always moving around.

[C]

Happens when you. You gotta move. Yeah, the FBI is right. Your tail.

[B]

Yeah, that's it. Because they saw the magic. And so what. What ended up happening was.

[C]

Oh, you brought the deck of cards.

[B]

I brought cards.

[C]

Dude, you're the best.

[B]

Thanks, man.

[C]

I. So I'm such a kid. I'm not really 59 because I lost a quarter century to drug addiction. So I'm. What am I, 35? Okay.

[B]

Incredible. And so I made friends every. Every place I would move to just because I was just the magic guy. Just do magic for everybody. And so, yeah, that's. It just became the thing. And everyone's like, oh, you'll. You'll be performing in Vegas one day. Or it. Whatever. And it would just be branded in my mind like I am the guy that does magic. And then at the same time, around the. The age of 10, I saw people were posting their magic videos on YouTube. And, you know, your magic. No, just magic videos in general. And I was like, I can do that. So March of 2012, I posted my first YouTube video, and I haven't missed a month of posting since March of 2012. We've always been posting.

[C]

That's fantastic.

[B]

Thank you, man.

[C]

You know, I love that you knew why you kept doing this, because most people aren't that in touch with why they do what they do. And what you were really saying is this was my way to fit in, Correct?

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Okay. And everybody hangs their hat on something, and this is my something. I love that. I love that. I wish I would have done that, Dylan, because. Because I thought I was going to be an NFL quarterback, and the reason I did was because I was delusional. Okay. I'm 5 11. Right.

[B]

What's the average height for a quarterback?

[C]

Like 6 3.

[B]

Right. So I probably should hang that dream up too.

[C]

For sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. You're Not. Yeah, that's not a lot of Filipino quarterbacks. Yeah, it's okay. There's not a lot of Jewish quarterbacks either. Have you ever seen the Jewish hall of Fame?

[B]

No.

[C]

They had to grab, like, people from AAA Baseball. Right. To me, like, this. This Jew was horrible.

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

He made it to aaa. Yeah. The only thing worse than our athletic prowess.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Is our cuisine.

[B]

I haven't really tried a lot of Jewish food.

[C]

Oh, we've got borscht and pickled herring in the house.

[B]

Okay, well.

[C]

Okay, so. And boiled chicken, so you're gonna love.

[B]

I'm. I ate before coming here, so I'm. I'm okay. I'm good. Thank you.

[C]

This guy's gonna kill me. So good. You began posting on YouTube at age 10. What was your first video like, and how did it feel to share your magic? Oh, man.

[B]

First video that I ever posted. This was during a time where. Because this is not a thing. Okay, YouTube now. But you can actually. You used to be able to respond to videos with videos. Like, instead of just a comment, you could post the video responding to the video. And so people use that as a format to do contests and giveaways. So one person that I learned magic from. His name was the card trick teacher on YouTube. He doesn't post anymore. I hope he's still alive. He was really old when he was. But I. I learned all my magic from him. He did a contest. He was like, whoever had the best magic trick replied to this video, you'll win a deck of cards. And I was like, you know, I'm like, 10, 10, 9. I was like, I want to win this deck of cards. You know? So I post a video of the deck of cards. No, no, I didn't win, but.

[C]

Oh, he should have lied.

[B]

Yeah, I.

[C]

The guy's dead. It's not like he's.

[B]

This was the. This that says 2021 printing is the. The deck of cards that you gave away back in 2012. No, but.

[C]

Dude, can you come over and just hang out? Just knock on the door and say, hey, Rich, come out and play. I'll do it.

[B]

Okay. All right. That's great. We. So I. My first ever YouTube video was an entry to a contest, and it was me with a very, very old camcorder. 360p, very low quality. I believe I was literally in, like, boxers in my living room performing magic to the camera. And, yeah, it has, I think, a whopping 300 views today. And I lost that contest, but that is where I started. And I'm very happy where I am now.

[C]

Yeah. All I heard is the boxers.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Nobody wears. Nobody wears boxers anymore.

[B]

Yeah, that's. You're not wearing boxers.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Are we. We do not have to check.

[C]

Okay. No, no, no, we're not going to chat.

[B]

No, I'm not. Not wearing boxes.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

Not. That's right. We're not checking.

[C]

No, we're not checking.

[B]

Not.

[C]

Okay. This I need to hear. You got multiple rejections from America's talent. What was the process like and what made you keep at it?

[B]

Yeah, when I was like, you know, I was moving around a lot, I was doing magic for a lot of different people. You know, in my school, the teachers there, the teachers would be like, wow, you're really talented. And then I would watch America's Got Talent. I would see. See kid magicians and teen magicians on there. I'm like, I can do that. And so I was like, I was really compelled. You know, I wanted. I don't know what drew me to it necessarily, but I really wanted to make a name for myself. I was like, I feel like I'm special in this craft at least. And so I told my parents, I want to audition for America's Got Talent. And I just kept performing, kept performing. I would, I would do, you know, city talent shows and stuff like that. And my, my parents would be like, okay, maybe he could actually audition. I didn't realize as a kid, as a, you know, 11, 12, 13 year old kid, that when you audition for America's Got Talent, you don't audition in front of the judges. You don't just walk on stage. You have to audition for producers first. I didn't realize how TV worked. So when I get to this audition, I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, is there a crowd waiting for me? Is there, like, I'm like ready to be on stage. I walk into a room with three people, two people that are like, I guess assistants and one person that's just taking notes while I guess the auditions go through and like, perform and do their act. I do magic. And I remember the first time.

[C]

Hold on a second. So you mean to tell me that three clowns. Okay. Made the decision. Okay. And they're probably like, yeah, he's great, but we've already had six. Six magicians.

[B]

A lot of magicians.

[C]

Right. So I don't think it had anything to do with you. I just think that these people were either stupid or just had too many magicians. And they're like, yeah, that ain't.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I. I worked really hard on that routine.

[C]

I'm never watching that show again.

[B]

I hate America's Got Talent.

[C]

It's still running, right?

[B]

Yeah, actually, it's not that bad.

[C]

But is it. Did it run? It's still running.

[B]

It's still running, yes. They have a new season coming out soon.

[C]

Bad luck about to happen.

[B]

Yeah, well, so I auditioned for these people and I remember one of the biggest things I remember is when I was doing my magic trick, the producer behind doing the notes was not even watching. And so it felt like it was like already predetermined. It was like, there's no. No matter what I did, I said.

[C]

Yeah, they had too many.

[B]

Magicians.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they just had.

[B]

Yeah. So I do this act for the producers. They say no, and I'm crushed. Like, I'm like 1112 year old. I'm crushed. I'm like, I thought it was good enough for the show. Wouldn't they even give me a chance? It didn't seem like they even cared. And so I proceed to audition three more times after that. Every year I would audition same people. Not the same people, different producers every time. But, you know, and every time they would consistently tell me no. I get rejected multiple times. I'm going into my freshman year of high school. You know, I don't know, I get this, like, feeling like, look, I was told no so many times from these producers, but everyone in my life is telling me that I'm special and I feel like I. I am able to perform better than anybody else my age. And so I, you know, I was already posting on YouTube. I was posting. Instagram was slowly becoming more of like a short form content place. Started posting a little bit of my clips on Instagram. And going into my freshman year, I basically. The first true story. This is going to sound so cliche, but the first assignment that I ever got freshman year of high school was to write a letter to the time I graduated.

[C]

So first period to write a letter.

[B]

To write a letter to yourself for when you graduate.

[C]

Oh, that's great.

[B]

Yeah, it was. It was like, you know, my English teacher was like, you can keep this or, or we can keep it. And by the time you graduate, you can open it up and read it. And so.

[C]

That's beautiful.

[B]

I wrote in there. For some reason, I was very inclined. This was after like my third rejection on America's Got Talent. I was like, I want to take social media seriously. This is becoming like actually an industry. And so I wrote, I was Like, I have a thousand subscribers and I have 800 followers by the time I open this letter. Please. I would love to be able to be in a position to move to Los Angeles. That was my one goal. I was like, just move to la. Give me a shot at la. I don't want to go to college. My parents, you know, they're Asian, you know, they were like, very academic focused. They want me to go to college. I don't. I just want to be.

[C]

How do you know they're Asian if you're colorblind?

[B]

That's a really good question.

[C]

All right, go on.

[B]

I mean, that's what it says. I'm all the forms saved. I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know. Yeah, I'll talk to my parents about that. I gotta confirm. But yeah, it's a good question. So I spend the four years of high school really working on social media. The first year that I really took it seriously, I was like doing everything I could, self promoting myself in comment sections, just trying to, hey, I'm trying to grow my account and, and it's kind of worked. I grew to 30, 000 on Instagram in my first year, freshman year of high school, I'm like 15. Second year, sophomore year doubled that to 80,000. By junior year, Tick Tock came out and Tick Tock was like, you know, kind of a joke platform at first. Like people weren't really taken seriously. It was very comedic based memes, not really magic. But my second video Catches Fire is me doing a comedy skit, actually. And it got 5 million views. And by the first, first month of Tick Tock, I had grown to a million followers.

[C]

At the beginning of Tick Tock, it was a lot easier. They had those, right?

[B]

Yeah, it was, it was very, yeah, 2019. This was pre pandemic. So I grew to 1.9 million followers my junior year. And I still wasn't really making a ton of money, but I was, you know, I was getting there by senior year. I mean, it's just like, I must have been at the right place at the right time. I'm about to graduate. Covid shuts the world down, right? Everyone decides to download this app that I'm already posting three times a day on, and just the algorithm, everything just catches fire. We struck lightning in a bottle. And for seven weeks straight, we grew a million followers.

[C]

A million A week.

[B]

A week, yeah, just every week. By the time I opened that letter, I had 12 million followers and I was moving to Los Angeles. And that is kind of my origin story.

[C]

Okay. Before we get going, I want the. I want the trick for I ask questions. I want the trick.

[B]

Sure, why not? You're familiar with the deck of cards?

[C]

I am familiar.

[B]

You know all the numbers, letters. You're familiar with all of that stuff right there.

[C]

Letters.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Like ace, jack, you know, J.

[C]

That is.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

My fault.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. This is a brand, brand new deck. We're going to try something. I'm going to shuffle it up a little bit and I'm going to. I'm going to have you select one of these cards at random. All right? So I'm going to go through the side here. Whenever you want. Just go ahead, say stop at any point in time.

[C]

Stop right there.

[B]

That's good. Anymore, any less? No, that's good. All right. Take a look at the card that you stopped on. You got it?

[C]

Yep.

[B]

I'm gonna do something that you should not do with a deck of cards. Can you hold on to this for me, please? Sure. Watch closely. That card that you stopped on and the piece.

[C]

That's insane.

[B]

Thank you. But there's this thing in magic that whatever disappears, it has to reappear so actually bounced off the air. It hit off the light. Half the mic stand off the top of your head flew all the way behind me. There is one piece right there. I haven't moved a muscle.

[C]

Not a muscle.

[B]

I'm gonna make this as fair as possible. Look, nothing else in my hands. I'm just gonna grab it. You could have stopped on any card. I don't want to touch it. Go flip it over. Your card, the jack of diamonds. But not only that, I want you to see. That is the exact piece that I ripped off that card.

[C]

That, my man, is exact.

[B]

Here, I'll show it to the camera. Here we go. Just like that.

[C]

That's gorgeous.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

That's really good.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right, one more.

[B]

Well, I'm on it. I'm ready. Here we go. Let's do it. Why not? Do you want to pick a card? Okay. Okay. Okay. Here. It's a brand new deck, so I have to shuffle it, but that looks pretty shuffle, right? Or do you want me to mix it up anymore? It feels good. I'll give it one more.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You want to reach in here? Do me a favor, Just reach in or just grab any card that you want from me. Any card.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Any one of these. Go ahead. Good. Anyone? Go memorize it for me. You got it?

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And we're going to try something I'm going to take this. I'm going to lose it roughly into the middle. Just like this. Just like this. I might need to stand up for this. Is this okay?

[C]

Make certain.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Okay. As long as it's okay. Is. Do I need to move the mic?

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So there's this thing in magic called sleight of hand. You've heard of it, right?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You remember the card that you picked, right?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

This is something a little bit different. This is called sleight of mouth. Just. Just watch closely. You'll know why I'm engaged by the end of this. Watch close.

[C]

Okay. What do you mean? No, it was a six. It was a six of. It was a six of. What is that? What is that, a club? What is that six of? It's a six of spades. That's what it was. Now.

[B]

One card and one card only. Your card. The six is paid.

[C]

Yeah. You're insane.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

That's insane.

[B]

Thank you. Yeah. Suck on that. America's Got Talent.

[C]

You people. You people are so stupid. It's painful. God. That was stupid good, dude. That was stupid good. Thank you. All right, what's the single magic moment in your career that made you feel like you made it?

[B]

Wow, That's a good question. You know, funny enough, it has something to do with America's Got Talent. It has something to do with America's Got Talent because, you know, I. I moved to Los Angeles after garnering all these followers. I'm doing my thing. I started working with Paramount, Nickelodeon, doing. Doing all these things in the world of magic. And then I get a call from America's Got Talent.

[C]

You. They called you?

[B]

Yes, they called me.

[C]

Finally.

[B]

Yes, finally.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And I'm like, wow, about damn time. Been waiting for this one. And they said, hey, we want you to audition properly. Skip all the producer stuff. Like, let's just have you go onto the show and perform for the judges. And so I remember, like, I mentally, I always thought, like, one day I'm actually do this show and we're going to do it properly. And it's like, when it came in, I was like, okay, about. About time. I start prepping for the show. And I'm. The moment was me backstage when they're like, you're up next. And I'm sitting there and I. I'm really not an emotional person. I don't get. I don't cry a lot, and I don't know, maybe there's some trauma that I need to figure out, but I don't cry a Lot. I don't, I don't really like, you know, when things go wrong, I just think, okay, how can we make it right? You know, I drive through fryers with a smile on my face. Like there's not much to it. But that moment of me backstage moments before, I know I'm up next and I've already gone through the routine a million times in my head and I feel good about it. I'm just waiting that moment right there. I remember being so emotional in my mind, but I knew I was about to be on stage. I wasn't, couldn't cry, but I could have been crying in that moment. That was the moment where I was like, I made it because I visualized this moment for so many years as a kid, like being on stage in front of the judges, performing magic, you know, having a huge crowd watch me and just about to live that moment. I remember being so present in that. Like, I need to take this in because, wow, I'm doing it.

[C]

How'd you do?

[B]

I.

[C]

Well, listen, I don't normally ask follow.

[B]

Up questions, so I will say this, I'll preface it like this. I didn't pick my routine. So the routine, I did not pick the routine. The producer, the producer wanted me to be very specific on what I wanted to do. And we built a routine that was based off these strict guidelines of what they wanted. I didn't like the routine, but I went out and performed the out of it. I performed the best magic that I could have done. I did this routine. I get back on because I performed it in front of them. I went to their desk and then I went back on stage. They start giving me really bad feedback. They start giving me feedback like it was slow, it was boring, the magic was okay, but I'm like confused, whatever. And that's where me looking back as like this, the 10 year old kid that auditioned for America's got Time, I was like, there's no way I'm leaving here without my four yeses. So I tell Howie Mandel, who's telling me that my performance was slow. I said, Give me 30 more seconds. It's a true story. Give me 30 more seconds. I have a deck of cards. Let me just perform to you one trick and I will blow you away. I guarantee it. They weren't having it, but the crowd wanted me to do one more trick.

[C]

So they said okay.

[B]

They said, okay. I go up.

[C]

Awesome.

[B]

I have them pick a card. I do that exact trick that I just did. Now where I coughed it up, I get A standing ovation from those four and my four yeses. And I saved my ass from. From getting rejected from America's Got Talent. Yeah.

[C]

But then, wait, let me take that. Because the genius of that is, look, I heard once that Abraham Lincoln lost 26 elections in a row before he became president. Now, that's not true. It was a lot less. But what he did was he kept after it. Right? And you kept after it. But here's the magic moment. You didn't take no for an answer, right? And you. And you knocked that door down. You ran right through it, okay? And you could have gone the other way. You could have been like. You could have had all those failures, all those misses at from 10 on, and you could have let that crush you. And most people would have. And the thought would have been, I'm not good enough. I'm not enough. Right? Because what just happened was. It was different than all the others. You went ahead and. And we're actually performing in front of the judges now. These people actually called you and then. And you had the confidence of your ex. Your life experience, because you're getting better at your craft, right?

[B]

Correct.

[C]

And then they all over you. Okay? And. And you were like, no, this is bull. And the reason you said this is bullshit was because you were. You were hand. You were. You were. What's the word? Hamstrung. You are hamstrung by the producers. Because you didn't get to be you. They were telling you. Correct. So you were like all these things, and you're like this, okay, I need 30 more seconds. You're going to be just fine. Okay? And they weren't having it. And then the crowd was so moved by the ballsy move. Right. That you had, right? They're like, yeah, man, give this guy another break. Plus, the crowd liked it, the first one.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Right? So now they're probably, like, losing their mind. And these guys were stuck. Now they can't. Now they're hamstrung, and they have to give it to you. And then you just. You beat the out of it. You killed it. I love this.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

I love this. See, we are a mental health podcast because. Because you must have been crushed every single time you failed now.

[B]

100, right?

[C]

And that must have depressed you.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

How'd you get out of that?

[B]

I don't. I. I give it to my dad, to be honest, because my dad always told me, like, you know, you only fail when you give up. That's really it. And so I just kept always thinking about what was next? You know, okay, this didn't work. Where do we go now? And so, yeah, in the moment, it sucked. And I'm a kid, you know, I'm like 13, 12, 11, whatever. And I have so many photos, like before and after. Like before the audition, after audition. I look so sad. But you can't live in that sadness. It's. It's. What's next after that?

[C]

How do you not live in the sadness?

[B]

It's a really good question. I mean, I think for me, it's just thinking that living in the sadness won't change anything. I don't think that if, you know, I can feel sorry for myself for years, it wouldn't get me any closer to getting a yes.

[C]

Do you know who that is?

[B]

Who, who is?

[C]

Your dad. That's what your dad put into your head. He took care of his boy. That's beautiful. That's so nice. Wow. And now you're gonna be the dad. And you're going to take all the things from your father that were good and anything that was bad, you'll leave behind. And, you know, I'm. I did it better than my old man. My old man did it better than his old man. And my son's going to do it and my daughter's going to do it better than I do it. And that's how you know you're doing it, right? Okay. You think you. You think you know what love is, but you don't. Until you have a child, you just don't. And they don't cost you money. They make you money because for you, you have this much. It's enough. The second you have a child, it's completely different. You now have. You're now the dad. You're responsible for this child. Something inside of you turns on and you're like, okay, let's get going. Children make you a fortune. They don't cost you money ever. And. And it's the only love that. That matters. It really is.

[B]

That's beautiful, man. That's beautiful.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I have a follow up on the America's Got Talent thing. Thank you for that, by the way. That was beautiful. My. My fiance is going to be very happy because she wants to be a mom. Yesterday.

[C]

How old is she?

[B]

She's 24.

[C]

Yeah. You might want to wait till 30.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We has just for one reason. Okay. Everything you say now is funny, right?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You guys are the best friends, right? The second your child is born, you're. You're a sperm donor and an atm. Okay.

[B]

You can use that I'm stealing that.

[C]

You can steal them all.

[B]

I'm stealing that.

[C]

They're all for you.

[B]

Okay, thank you.

[C]

No problem. I'm not a comedian.

[B]

So. From the America's Got Talent thing went so well and I think it, like, it really, like, fulfilled a part of me as a kid that I really wanted was that moment. I've thought about it for so long. But what I also didn't know about show business is a hundred people get yeses, only 20 people air. And so I was not aired actually on America's Got Talent despite me getting my four yeses. So we still have a remaining journey with them. I told them that I. Well, internally I said the next time I'll be on that show is when I'm judging it or hosting it. So I'm waiting for that day.

[C]

God, I love that.

[B]

Trying to, man.

[C]

No, that's. That's. That's revenge. I'm all about revenge. The mental patient on the. On the. On the. On the. On the number. Whatever the hell I've got now.

[B]

Moving up by the second.

[C]

Yeah, let's go to this one. What unique strengths do you think magic videos have on TikTok versus YouTube?

[B]

Oh, man. Well, TikTok is so fast paced and people go on that app. I feel like a lot of the times for some sort of spectacle and that's what magic is. You know, it's a quick. I can do a trick in like 10 seconds and amaze you. And I think that that really played into my strengths when I started posting A ton is like, people would see it wouldn't take long for you to consume 30 seconds. You see me do a magic trick and then I'm out of your face. And then I just showed up every single day doing it. So show me a ten second.

[C]

A ten second trick.

[B]

Oh, man. Here's the world's fastest magic trick. It looks like this. It's called the snap change. Let me see if I can do this. You could learn this. It's not that difficult.

[C]

I'm pretty stupid.

[B]

Okay. I'm gonna perform it to you and the camera at the same time. But it looks. It looks like this. Like that.

[C]

That's sick.

[B]

It's. Yeah, it's a snap change. So you just take it and you just like that.

[C]

All right, show me one more trick.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, cool. Well, we'll. Here, I'll try something. Feel pretty good about the. I didn't switch it out. There's nothing. Any funny business going on here? Okay, cool. Can you do me a favor Reach in here. Just grab another card for me. Anyway, that, like any one of these, go show it to the camera. Don't show it to me. And then I want you to put it back in the deck anywhere.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Do you have your phone on you?

[C]

Do I have my phone? He's got his phone.

[B]

You got your phone on you? Can you do me a favor? Can you go on Instagram and then hand it to him? You remember your card, right?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Don't forget it.

[C]

I think I do.

[B]

You're on Instagram. Go to the search on Instagram. I don't want to do anything weird here. I just want to show you. I'm going here. I'm going to my page. Can you click on my handle for me? Just click on my page. And then. Can you read my bio out loud to everybody?

[C]

All right, let me read the bio. How do you read a bio?

[B]

The. The first line on there, what does it say?

[C]

You picked the five of hearts.

[B]

Was that it?

[C]

It was. Yes, it was the five of hearts. How the hell did you do that?

[B]

I don't know. It's a really good question. Should put in the notes.

[C]

That's so good. I picked the five of hearts.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's insanity.

[B]

Thanks. You could have picked any of these cards.

[C]

I could have picked any of those.

[B]

Literally any of these.

[C]

And there's no pattern. That's insanity. You're great.

[B]

Thanks, man.

[C]

Great. All right. You got anything coming next? You want to tell me where you're.

[B]

Going to perform to be? Okay, so a couple things that are coming up. So I'm trying to work in the traditional media world a lot more. So I'm trying to do. You know, I have a movie coming out this year for Paramount called My Weird School. It's a Nickelodeon movie, but it'll be on Paramount. Plus, and it's. I'm a lead in the movie and I play. I actually play a 14 year old, which is just crazy because I guess Asians don't raise in. That's what they say, right? Asians don't raise in. That's.

[C]

What does that mean?

[B]

Like, we don't wrinkle. So we.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

We look young.

[C]

I thought you said agents.

[B]

No, Asians don't raise it. Yeah. Anyways, I, I. So I'm doing a lot of stuff in the traditional media world, and hopefully we're just making stepping stones to hosting the Oscars. So I'm gonna say it right here because I'm make. I'm actually making a compilation of as many of these as possible, but every podcast I go on, I'm making a compilation of me saying, hello, future Oscars. It's your host. Shie. Anyways, because it's going to happen. I can't wait. We're going to clip it one day. Can't wait. So many different podcasts, and we're going to just throw this on.

[C]

That's so amazing. You're speaking it into existence, man. Thank God in advance. Yeah, no, no, just thank God in advance on my life. And don't ask him for what you need, Ask him for what you want. Okay. Wow. All right, buddy. Thanks for coming.

[B]

Thank you so much for having me, man. This is fun.

[C]

You're so good to me.

[B]

See you next Tuesday. Let's go.

[C]

You're all the footballs.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You grab five balls.

[B]

Five.

[C]

One at a time.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Okay. One point.

[B]

Two points.

[C]

Three points. Four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Okay, got it.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

You get five balls, I get one. Okay.

[B]

What?

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Okay, let me get on the board then. Okay.

[C]

Oh, thanks. No problem.

[B]

There we go.

[C]

Fantastic.

[B]

There we go.

[C]

1.

[B]

Okay, let me go.

[C]

Here. Close.

[B]

That's close. So I got two more?

[C]

Yep. Oh, that's amazing.

[B]

Let's go. Okay. And why don't we go long? No.

[C]

Okay, now you hit the plate. Do another one.

[B]

Okay. Same spot. All right.

[C]

You did great.

[B]

Okay. All right. Way better than I thought I was gonna do, to be honest.

[C]

That was awesome. All right. All right, here we go. You got one and five. There you go.

[B]

No way.

[C]

What? I win. How?

[B]

I felt so good about that.

[C]

I know, baby. I know. Come here, give me a hug. Oh.

[B]

What?

[C]

You're gonna be.

[B]

What?

[C]

I swear to God, you're gonna be okay. In fact, that's the first time I ever did it without editing.