Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight

Summary

Podcast Summary: We're Out of Time – Episode: Suigeneris On Music, Family & Staying Grounded In The Spotlight

Introduction

In this compelling episode of "We're Out of Time," host Richard Taite engages in an in-depth conversation with Suigeneris, a multifaceted artist balancing a career in music and a passion for cooking. Released on May 6, 2025, this episode delves into themes of addiction, substance use disorders, mental health, and the pervasive fentanyl crisis, all within the context of Suigeneris's personal journey and professional endeavors.

Guest Background: Suigeneris’s Journey in Music and Family Commitment

Suigeneris opens up about his commitment to family over the typical trappings of fame. He emphasizes the importance of staying grounded and prioritizing familial relationships over material possessions. At the start of the episode, Suigeneris states:

"I put my money into my family, the foundation, the things that keep me me. I knew the Internet would chew me up and spit me out, but, you know, my family keeps me sane." ([00:00])

This dedication is a central theme throughout the discussion, highlighting how family support has been pivotal in his ability to navigate the challenges of a music career.

Avoiding Fame's Pitfalls: Focus on Authenticity

Suigeneris contrasts his approach with that of many rappers who often succumb to the pressures and pitfalls of fame. He explains his conscious decision to invest in his family's well-being rather than extravagant security measures or ostentatious displays of wealth:

"A lot of rappers fall victim to that stuff because they don't have a family around them. That's why I put my money not into security or not into foreign cars... I put my money into my family." ([00:00])

This authentic approach not only keeps him grounded but also serves as a protective barrier against the destructive elements frequently associated with the music industry.

The Fentanyl Crisis: Alarming Statistics and Personal Impact

The conversation takes a sobering turn as Richard Taite introduces startling statistics about the fentanyl crisis:

"Did you know that every seven minutes someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl every seven minutes in this country." ([03:03])

Suigeneris reacts with shock and concern, acknowledging the gravity of the situation:

"That's crazy, dude." ([04:18])

They discuss the pervasive nature of fentanyl, its impact on families, and the urgent need for awareness and action. Suigeneris shares personal anecdotes and observations about how the crisis affects individuals and communities, particularly within the hip-hop culture.

Cooking as a Creative Outlet: From Music to Culinary Arts

Shifting gears, Suigeneris introduces another facet of his life—cooking. He passionately describes his transition from music to culinary arts, emphasizing traditional Mexican cuisine and the joy it brings him:

"I'm cooking like traditional Mexican food passed down from generations... every single day when I get home, I have a home cooked meal by my family." ([12:11])

Suigeneris explains how cooking serves as a grounding activity, allowing him to connect with his heritage and maintain a sense of normalcy amidst the chaos of fame. His dedication to cooking even caught Gordon Ramsay’s attention, leading to potential opportunities:

"In the first month of posting these videos, I had an email from Gordon Ramsay asking me to be on Top Level Chef." ([26:23])

Despite the offers, Suigeneris remains humble and focused on his family, turning down opportunities that would take him away from his loved ones.

Hip Hop’s Role in Glorifying Drugs: A Critical Perspective

A significant portion of the episode addresses the role of hip-hop in normalizing and glorifying drug use, exacerbating the fentanyl crisis. Suigeneris reflects on his past, acknowledging his own contributions to this problematic narrative:

"The harder part with the young generation and Fentanyl is hip hop is glorifying it to such a crazy scale." ([38:16])

He candidly discusses previous product releases that inadvertently promoted drug culture, recognizing the mistakes made and distancing himself from those actions:

"That was a mistake. Now that I see what it's doing and all that. So we stopped selling those, and we're like, completely away from the perk wave or anything like that." ([39:12])

Personal Experiences with Addiction: Supporting the Community

Both host and guest share poignant stories about witnessing the devastating effects of addiction. Suigeneris recounts an incident at a Rolling Loud concert where a concertgoer collapses, suspected of overdosing:

"I heard Mo Bamba playing my Sheik West... Someone falls on me... he just rolls over... we told the security." ([35:18])

Richard Taite underscores the emotional toll of such events, emphasizing the need for greater empathy and support for those affected by addiction:

"It is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever heard in my life." ([37:14])

Advice for Parents: Protecting the Youth

Towards the end of the episode, Suigeneris offers practical advice for parents striving to protect their children from the dangers of drug addiction. He emphasizes fostering open communication and providing a supportive home environment:

"If you get your kid some chips or something, just sauce them up... get saucy." ([48:22])

Through lighthearted yet meaningful suggestions, he encourages parents to engage with their children’s interests in healthy and constructive ways.

Conclusion: Striving for Positive Change

The episode concludes with a reaffirmation of the podcast’s mission to address the fentanyl crisis and promote mental health awareness. Richard Taite and Suigeneris wrap up by urging listeners to take action and support initiatives that combat addiction and support affected families.

"If you didn't do it, you would be punished. So I didn't have a choice. I feel that I didn't want to do a podcast. I'm an executive chairman of a healthcare corporation. Nobody can believe I'm doing this." ([46:03])

Suigeneris remains committed to using his platform for positive change, blending his passions for music, cooking, and family to inspire and educate his audience.

Notable Quotes:

• Suigeneris on prioritizing family:

  "I put my money into my family, the foundation, the things that keep me me." ([00:00])

• Richard Taite on fentanyl statistics:

  "Every seven minutes someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl." ([03:03])

• Suigeneris on hip-hop’s influence:

  "Hip hop is glorifying it to such a crazy scale." ([38:16])

• Suigeneris on cooking and tradition:

  "I'm cooking like traditional Mexican food passed down from generations." ([12:11])

Final Thoughts

This episode of "We're Out of Time" masterfully intertwines personal narratives with broader societal issues, offering listeners a nuanced perspective on the fentanyl crisis and its intersection with hip-hop culture. Suigeneris’s honest reflections and actionable insights provide a heartfelt exploration of staying grounded amidst fame, the importance of family, and the urgent need to address substance abuse in our communities.

For those interested in understanding the complexities of addiction and seeking inspiration to make a difference, this episode serves as an invaluable resource and a call to action.

Find Suigeneris Online:

• Instagram: @XoSueGenerous
• TikTok: @HamSui
• YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, SoundCloud: Search for "Chef Suey"

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Closing Quote:

"Doing the right thing is hard sometimes, but it's worth it." ([46:36])

End Time: 51:47

Transcript

[A]

You don't see anyone young cooking the meals. I'm cooking like traditional Mexican food passed down from generations where they're literally promoting people to not cook anymore. It's like damn near soon enough they're going to lock up the vegetables. But every single day when I get home, I have a home cooked meal by my family, and it just smacks reality back into me. A lot of rappers fall victim to that stuff because they don't have a family around them. It's also why they move the way they move, you know, and do the things they do. That's why I put all my money not into security or not into foreign cars or paying friends to make me look cool or be around me. You know, like I. I put my money into my family, the foundation, the things that keep me me. I knew the Internet would chew me up and spit me out, but, you know, my family keeps me sane. I'm just trolling you. You could do whatever you put your mind to. Like, I was dead as a rapper on tour, dropping all these songs. I had a record deal and all this and that I did the clothing brand sold so many that I'm stuck in the house shipping for weeks. I went and I decided to be a chef, and Gordon Ramsay's hitting me up.

[B]

We're overwhelmed with gratitude. We're out of Time has reached number three on the Apple Podcast mental health chart. Thank you for listening, supporting, and sharing this journey with us. Hey, man, how you doing?

[A]

How's it going, bro? I'm so happy to be here, bro. Honestly, what you're doing with the podcast, something different, I haven't seen it before, you know, your selective guest, the way you rock and let them roll. That's why I had to show up.

[B]

Well, I appreciate it, man, because it's for a good cause, you know. And, you know, this fentanyl thing's killing everybody. So let me ask you a couple questions.

[A]

What's your name, by the way? It's Richard Tate.

[B]

Right, Richard Tate.

[A]

Richard Tate. Okay. You never know because you feel me, some people, they come up with these little names. Like I thought Drake's name was Drake. Was. It's not Drake.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

Aubrey Graham. Really? Yeah. So I thought you were pulling a Drake on me, bro. I need to know if it was the real name or not.

[B]

If I had a fake name, what would it be? Dylan? Would it be Daddy?

[A]

You're John Cena in Joe Rogan's body.

[B]

Really? Yeah. Joe Brogan is buff, though.

[A]

You're busting, bro.

[B]

Now I'm just wearing this like, tight shirt. Wearing a tight shirt to make me look buff.

[A]

Nah, he's lying. He be. He be in them weights like crazy.

[B]

No, this guy. This guy went ahead and got into an ice bath like Joe Rogan. He like dumped his. And I'm like crying, I'm feeling. Because, you know I'm an empath, right? So I'm such a. I cried for him. Unbelievable.

[A]

No, the ice bath is different though. The ice bath is different. I've been around a couple athletes that try to get me in there and I'm like, like it. Like I've been in a hot Cheeto bath before.

[B]

It was middle bath.

[A]

Yeah. Like full of Cheetos. Yeah. Full pool of Cheetos. Yeah.

[B]

Why would you do that?

[A]

It was for this music video for one of my songs called Brown Justin Bieber. It just felt right. I had lemon hot Cheetos for the video. And like, it burned so crazy. Like my skin was all red after. I would still rather do that any day than ice bad. So I feel you.

[B]

Did you come out all orange?

[A]

Yeah. No, actually.

[B]

Do you look like an orangutan?

[A]

Yeah. I had all Latinas trying to suck me up. All the Latinas, they're trying to get the Cheeto dust off my fingers and off all my fingers.

[B]

Oh, that's so good. I don't even have anything cool to say about that.

[A]

You like hot Cheetos?

[B]

No.

[A]

You look like the type of guy that would be like, hell no. Hot Cheetos are not it.

[B]

Dude, I'm 58. I eat something like that. I might do. I might just stroke out. You know, I could. I could drop right there.

[A]

See, that's a big. 58 year olds will say that I can't handle a bag of hot Cheetos. And then you go to the back backstage, back room, they're all doing coke and all different types of pills I never seen. I'm like, chill, that can handle this. But no hot Cheetos.

[B]

You know, the cocaine now nobody can handle because 70 of its lace was fentanyl.

[A]

That's actual stats.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Holy.

[B]

Check this out. Did you know that every seven minutes someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl every seven minutes in this country.

[A]

Holy. Dude, it's. It's that bad?

[B]

Oh, yeah, bro.

[A]

That's crazy, dude.

[B]

Someone's already dropped, and we're only seven minutes into this thing. It's the worst. And the worst part about it is you're close with your old man, right? You Love your old man. I mean, I heard you while we were eating pancakes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How are the pancakes?

[A]

Amazing. Fluffy as hell.

[B]

They were. They were so good. But your father's in love with you. Can you imagine the pain he would have if you did cocaine and were gone to lose his mind?

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

You close with your mom?

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You love her?

[A]

Yep. I'm a family guy.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

Well, damn. That's crazy, bro. If that. North street is for real.

[B]

Be careful out here when you're doing your. You doing concerts, you're doing shows.

[A]

Not right now.

[B]

Not right now, no.

[A]

Yeah, I put down the shows and concerts for a while. Just. It's been, like, I think, like, maybe three years. I'll come out, like, when the homies have a show, I'll come out, perform my song with them. But, like, I haven't really been doing any concerts.

[B]

You're done with it?

[A]

No, I wanna. I wanna go back. I just wanna. I don't like performing for people who aren't my fans, you know, like, and it's kind of. It sounds stupid. Of course. Yeah. Go perform for Travis Scott's fans, you know? Like, you're gonna get publicity. They're gon after my game followers. But I just feel like that's the part where I'm like, damn, I hate. This is where I'm sitting there rapping these songs and these people don't. They don't feel it, you know, or they don't even know me, and it's like, I can make them feel it or whatever, but it's like, bro, I'd rather do this for my supporters. I'd rather go on live, or I'd rather, you know, talk to them or.

[B]

Do you ever do it on a live stream on. On Instagram?

[A]

Yeah. So what I do is, like, rather than doing something like that, is I'll go live on Instagram and just play them some music or turn up with them or, like, I was doing this one thing for a while. Encore. Where we're doing, like, a show every Friday, but it was a digital show. And, like, we'll bring, like, the top fans backstage, like, on virtually. Then we would, like, have, like, people, like, all competing for different money, and then we'll give it to, like, the best one. But it was, like, something for my fans. More like my. Not just fans, supporters, you know, or people trying to chase the same dream as me.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So, like, I don't know. I like. I like being close. Even if it's 10 people, I'd rather it be like this than 3, 000 people who are Travis waiting for Travis Scott. And they're just annoying that I'm performing, you know?

[B]

Right.

[A]

I want to go out there when they know my songs already or when they, you know, they feel my vibe. I'm not just gonna pop out and do a show and just like, it's not like the old days where, like, you go, you perform and perform and perform until you get your name out there. You sell CDs, you sell in real life, word to mouth. I saw him over there, you know, it's all like. It's not like that. You go on live. I'm gonn thousand people in there. I mean, wow. You think I could sell out 5, 10,000 people, like, in one second, you know? So that's the best way to get the reach to my audience, especially the people who are far away, who could never see me in real life. They live in the UK and Brazil. They're. Those are the biggest supporters because they're like, dude, I love this guy. You know, like, we have nothing like this out here. The swag, you know, the lyrics, the vibe. Like, oh.

[B]

It's also the Latin connection.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

People always feel more connected to their people for some reason. And it's getting less so now with the kids today, because kids don't see color anymore. Yeah, they just don't. They just don't. And. Which is, like, the greatest part about the kids today. But you've been in this game since you were a child.

[A]

Yeah, forever.

[B]

How did it affect you? Man?

[A]

Obviously, I feel like me being in the game early was, like, the best thing that could happen for me because I was losing my mind growing up. Like, I felt like, literally from kindergarten all the way to when I dropped down in freshman year, like, I could not be there for eight hours a day chasing something that is in my dreams, you know? Like, I know multiplication. I know division. I know English. Like, let's go get this money. Because my parents, they struggled for a long, long time, and it's like, I couldn't see past Lion King. I didn't want LION KING Part 2. I didn't want to watch Finding Nemo. I just wanted to get some more money so my mom's not sitting in the car crying, you know, More money, more problems. Nope. More money, less problems.

[B]

Oh, that's. That's.

[A]

You weren't that broke if you. If it made more problems. If I gotta do this, gotta do that. Hey, at least I got the money. If you don't have money, you can't eat if you don't have money, you can't pay your dog's vet bill. If you have money, you can't go to the dentist. You know how money, you can't even live, so there's no problem.

[B]

Different. Different. Different problems.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As your life. You'll see, as your life gets bigger. Okay, Your problems get bigger. Right. It's the basic stuff. Right. That is cool. Like, you don't have to worry about, you know, a roof over your head, or you don't have to worry about the food. Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But there's just all these pressures when you're building a life and you're ascending into, you know, you're the best version of yourself. Right. And when you get there, it's just, you know, you got to be on point. Right. You got to know what you're doing. And anyway, I forgot what it's like.

[A]

Driving on the freeway. Like, the stakes get high. You know, Obviously, you always want a car, you always want a bike. But then you're on the freeway one second to the next, you crash out. That's what you mean? Like more money, more problems. And that happens. Right.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's.

[B]

I guess when you have more money, you have more responsibility, and then you have more to lose.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. So it's not just about making it anymore. It's about keeping what you've got. And not only that, but growing. And there's just a lot of. Hey, I promise you, when we get there, you'll be back and you'll. And we'll do that whole thing. But you're killing it right now. You're 22. I mean, you're just destroying it.

[A]

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[B]

No, no problem. I want to talk about the cooking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I figured that was going to come up as a boy.

[B]

Well, that's. That's. Look, man, the rap thing don't last forever. Okay. What was that thing in. You know, Cypress Hill is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You didn't know that song? Rap. Rap Game or Rap Superstar?

[A]

I'm not sure about that.

[B]

I don't know. Rap Superstar. All right, so they go through these lyrics in there, and it's like this. This game ain't gonna last forever. You gotta get your money right when you can. And, you know, you feel like you're just getting your love back now because, you know, these. These adults were bumming you out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they didn't know how to deal with a young kid and nurture him and love him. They just are a bunch of Suits and physio, just a bunch of. Right? So who needs that? So they cost you that love. And the longer you stay away from them, okay, You'll. You'll get it back, okay? Trust me. Because you're gifted, okay? I listened to your stuff before you came on, okay? I mean, you're gifted, okay? But there's nothing cooler than being a chef. And when we were talking about it beforehand, you lit up like a Christmas tree. Like, you really love it. So you said. You said you had a story about it. You said, no, no, Rich, the story's cooler. And I said, save it for the show.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Give it to me.

[A]

So, like, the. The whole chef thing, it just trips everyone out because first of all, you don't see anyone young cooking the meals. I'm cooking, like, traditional Mexican food passed down from generations, you know, like, or even have the love for it because you're young. What the. Tell your mom to order you pizza. Or don't get the new Minecraft meal at McDonald's or go try the pickle lemonade at Popeyes or go get some crumble cookie with 7 million grams of sugar. You know, like, it's perfect. It's meant for kids to just go out and get their food like that. It's even easier when the meals come in little packs at the rest. At the stores, they're literally promoting people to not cook anymore, right? And it's like damn near soon enough they're gonna lock up the vegetables. So, like, right now I'm enjoying the fact that ingredients are still. Oh, you know, they're going up, but they're available. And like, growing up, like, I would do all this music, you know, we were saying, like, it would kill the vibe. Like, all these business people and all these suits and all these rappers we have to be around, you know, like, all the people that we had to, like, work with would kill our vibe. But every single day when I get home, I have a home cooked meal by my family and it max reality back into me and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, it's not even about the food. Like, I'm not, I'm not. Feel me, big bear. I'm not big. I'm not big. I love the vibe.

[B]

Stop, stop, stop. Show that camera that eight pack again. No, no, we're gonna get. You're gonna get more ass than a toilet seat in a minute, okay?

[A]

No, no, seriously, you're gonna get more.

[B]

Ass than a bus bench. Go ahead and open that up. God damn it. This kid.

[A]

I'M saying, I'm saying it's not about the dude. Dude.

[B]

Your future is an only fans. You make a million bucks a month if you could do that. Only fans.

[A]

Coming soon. Coming soon. I got you coming soon.

[B]

Unreal.

[A]

I'm saying though, like, let me be the, Let me be the one to tell you that food isn't just about eating and getting fat. Because every time I bring up food to someone who's not a foodie, they're like, nah, it's too much sugar, but it's too much fat. But there's that like, can vibe for a second. Can we just enjoy the moment? Like, put the big ass plate, put the cartuterie there. Let's not eat it. The charcuterie, whatever the you call it, put that there and just, let's have a picnic. Let's drink our mimosas, eat a cracker and throw it away, Whatever. I don't want to waste food. So we all eat it. But I'm just saying, like, it's about the vibes, you know, like, we don't do sushi on Sundays because sushi's just pops up at the door. It's. It's because we're going to watch movies, we're going to watch our shows. When they come out, we're going to eat the sushi. That's part of the vibe, you know?

[B]

Can I ask you a question?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do your parents ever say, finish your plate because there are kids starving?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

They did, right?

[A]

Yes. But we, we finished the plate, we finished the leftovers. We finish everything.

[B]

But let me ask you a question. When they said that truth, tell me the truth, weren't you thinking, like, this is going to really get to South Africa?

[A]

Really? I was like, you're not going to send it to Africa, right?

[B]

Like, who's like, if I don't eat it, who's gonna eat it? Right?

[A]

Honestly, you know that, that thought would come to my head, right? For a second, like, you're not gonna send this plate to Africa if I don't finish it. And he's like, oh, but your cousin's sleeping on the couch and he's hungry. When he wakes up, oh, six of my cousins come running.

[B]

Okay, but if your cousin is in the house, wouldn't you want to save some food for the man when he woke up off the couch?

[A]

Hell no. He gonna get his one way or another. You go fall asleep and you gonna wake up, they gonna be, oh, really?

[B]

That's the way it works. Our house is like, so then why not Just. Why not just give somebody like, a little dose of NyQuil, okay? Knock them out so you can eat their potatoes.

[A]

Like, that's crazy. He say. You say Bill Cosby doesn't take their food.

[B]

Said the rehab guy. Unreal. I. I take it back. I'm sorry.

[A]

Yeah, but we have so many, like, Mexicans or we're known for having, like, a lot big family, you know? So, like, people tell me, like, in the videos, sometimes I'll do 10 videos a day. They're like, what do you do with the food? I'm like, bro, I just call, make one phone call. They come running in like a. Like cockroaches. Like, boom, boom. Everything's gone quick.

[B]

You're doing the cooking on. On YouTube?

[A]

No, on tick Tock. Okay.

[B]

You're doing the cooking on Tick Tock.

[A]

Yeah. And like, I'll just. So every food is one meal. So like, I mean, every one. Every food. I'm a dumbass. Hold on.

[B]

No, no, you're good.

[A]

Every food is one video. So like, say every.

[B]

Every meal is one video.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, not. It's like every. Yeah, not even meal. Like, it could be. Say, I'm making tacos with rice and beans.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

There's three videos. Taco. Today I'm making garnet salad tacos. Today I'm making frijoles. Today I'm gonna make you. I'm gonna show you how to make rice. It's three videos. I post those on tick tock, YouTube and Instagram.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

I get paid for YouTube shorts. I get paid from tick tock, a little one minute program. So as long as the video is a minute.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Instagram. Do it for free. But that's for all my. Like, my sponsorships come from.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

And then if I want to, I'll do a YouTube video about the whole process of the thing. Not. Not the food part.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And they.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

By the time I finish my food and by the time I eat, I'm done with work.

[B]

Dylan. I just figured out why nobody works anymore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All working. But they're not going into an office. They're not working for employers. They're all working for themselves.

[A]

It's like I tell some of my family members who sell like a la Fresc and like, food on the street.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

I'm like, if you were to just record, you would have to make it one time. And you're gonna get like a thousand dollars from that one time. You're the customer just drinking. Like, I'm like, every time I make. Awa Fresca. I get, like, 1 to 5 million views on each platform, so that generates enough revenue for at least a work day. You know, if you're out at the flea market selling. I was. And you don't have to be in the sun, and then you can spend the rest of your day there with your kids or making more money if that's needed, you know?

[B]

Dude, you're the best. You're the best.

[A]

Appreciate you, bro.

[B]

No, you just are.

[A]

You got it.

[B]

You got. Hey, do you know how to monetize all this stuff, Dylan? Because we can take this stuff, whatever it is, and just give it to charity. Find charities to give it to. Right. Then we can put a water up and just have these guys write the checks to charity. No.

[A]

Yeah, that's cool, dude. That's light work.

[B]

All right.

[A]

The hardest part about that is literally just, I guess, knowing how to film it. The right angles or, like, editing it, you know? Like, most people know how to film, you just hit record. But, like, it's the editing part where you're, like, trimming every little clip, and you start realizing, is it really going to be worth it? But, like, it's worth it to me. It's always worth it.

[B]

Oh, my God. It's totally worth it to me. Do you know why?

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because Dylan does it.

[A]

Oh, Dylan. Is it worth it? It's worth it. All right.

[B]

As you see, that's why we need a camera there to capture that.

[A]

Yeah, it should be, right?

[B]

Yeah, it's like, because, you know, it's like half the time people are going, is there really a Dylan Dale who?

[A]

The man, the myth?

[B]

What do you want me to ask.

[A]

Lisa a little bit more about the. Because it seems like a hiss or is creative off, obviously, music and stuff, but it seems like you have a lot of cooking, and it's creative for you. Can you tell us, like, about that process and some of your favorite things that you like to cook?

[B]

Can you tell me some of the favorite things you like to cook?

[A]

So, for me, bro, honestly, I don't think you would like any of this stuff that I got. No. You like seafood? I like how I like.

[B]

I like really spicy.

[A]

Well. Whoa.

[B]

Well, check this out. I like. I like. Really? I don't like. When I tell them hot at the. At the store, at the restaurant, I say, not for a gringo for you. Right? So, I mean. And that's how I do it. I mean. But then my burns for two days.

[A]

Every day in there is very strong, right? Yeah.

[B]

But I don't really like seafood in my. In my Mexican food. I don't know, but that's probably because I've never had it done right. Or I've never, you know, had something. Look, if you made me, you can come back here and you're gonna. We're do a whole cooking show here.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Let's do it. This kitchen looks crazy.

[B]

This one.

[A]

Yeah, this is gold.

[B]

We'll do it in the other one.

[A]

The other one's crazier. But this. This one looks gold and ready to be played with.

[B]

I didn't realize it.

[A]

She looks like a little virgin back there. I could break her in proper cherry.

[B]

It's actually. Dude.

[A]

Whoa. Am I freaky?

[B]

No, this is just looking freaky out. Hand me that.

[A]

Let me show you.

[B]

Let me show you. No, no, let me show you. Yes, this is.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

You just wanted to.

[A]

Yo. No, I did not say that. I didn't put it out there. I was talking about the. The stove and the sea. Oh, the stove.

[B]

I thought you were talking about my Kobe Bryant bobblehead.

[A]

I definitely was not. Hey, R.P. the Bike Mamba.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are we gonna let him rock this whole podcast?

[B]

We can let him rock on every podcast.

[A]

I like that. That's a mambo mentality right there.

[B]

You know, I didn't even. He was great. I loved him. But, you know, when I fell in love with him after he.

[A]

After his, like, watching all those interviews.

[B]

And stuff, watching that man taught me how to be a better father.

[A]

Damn. That's real.

[B]

And that's everything. He was just the best father. And. And I know a few people that know him. And it was. You know what I did? I turned the Empire State Building purple and gold the day. Or maybe the night he died. The night he died? Yeah.

[A]

What do you mean by that?

[B]

Well, my buddy across the street from me in Malibu on Broad beach has an iPhone, and he's the one responsible for turning the Empire State Building different.

[A]

Colors from his phone. From his phone?

[B]

Yeah, he does that from his phone in Malibu.

[A]

He controls.

[B]

Yeah, he controls. He controls it. And so I called him and I said, hey, man, I need you to do me a favor. And he said, the owners are in New Zealand. I don't think I can do it. I'm gonna. I don't want to get in trouble. And I said, dude, you're not going to get in trouble. You're going to be a hero. You just did the right thing, okay? They're going to think you're a star player. Come on, man. Do this for Me. He never got back to me. And I was watching SportsCenter, and I saw it on Sports center, and I just started bowling.

[A]

That's beautiful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That is crazy.

[B]

So I guess I didn't do it.

[A]

He did it. Hey, no, but you did that.

[B]

I did that.

[A]

W. Man's shout out to bro, too.

[B]

I finished the story that. The cool story.

[A]

Well, yeah, so.

[B]

Because we talked about it, and we were talking about that Chef. That chef show. Yeah, Right. Tell me about. And then I said, when we get on here, just, like, don't say anything about. You've only been doing this for a short period of time. You said, no, no, no, no.

[A]

That's the best part.

[B]

That's the best part.

[A]

That's the best part is, like, people don't get it. Like, at least say you're sitting from home right now, right? And you're thinking, I gotta wake up. I gotta go to work tomorrow. This, that. But I'm gonna watch Chef Sue's podcast because I love his food. I love his recipes. Like, you know. Or you're just Mexican supporting me or whatever. Or you're. Or you're just a fan from the music or the clothing brand or whatever, bro. I literally started doing the cooking stuff, like, a year and a half, maybe two years ago. Time went by so fast since then, but in the first month of posting these videos, I had an email from Gordon Ramsay asking me to be on Top Level Chef. And the only reason I turned it down is because I wasn't trying to go over there to Ireland and leave my pop. My pops is literally first month of training. By the way, my pops doesn't go to chef school or nothing like that. My pops doesn't have a restaurant. My pops is. He was a construction worker. You know, like, he's just really Mexican. We're from Micho Khan, like, the. The center of food over there in Mexico. And, like, just food has always been the most important thing. Right? So back to what I was saying to you guys. We did this training for a month. I said, dad, every time you cook, let me stand next to you. Let me record and teach me how to do this. Like, I'm gonna be sitting around talking to you while you cook anyways. I'm not just gonna be in my room. Dinner's ready, you know, like, I'm sitting right here, like, pulling stuff out, trying it. I'm like, oh, what? You're putting that. Oh, okay. I thought you use olive oil. Oh, okay. Oh, all right. That's what I like. Right? Started recording it posting them and like, it was a joke. Like, it's Jeff Zooey. Like, you know, Sue's a rapper. Sue's doing the music stuff. Like, so when I said, chef sue, like, shut your ass up. You ain't a chef. You just started, you know, like, you just make this video one time. Now you're a chef. It's. If I went out there, it's karate sui. But at some point, they took it all serious because they're like, bro, his. These are traditional bomb ass meals. How the does this young ass kid know how to do this when my dad's just coaching me through it, you know? And then, I mean, first month I had deals with El Pollo Loco avocados from Mexico at Gordon Ramsay.

[B]

Hold on a second. What does El Pollo Loco get out of it?

[A]

They get to post me on their page.

[B]

Why wouldn't they just post you on their page anyway?

[A]

Because they can't do that. They have to go through, like, like, industry standards of, like, paying out every person who pops up on. They also pay. They paid me to try their new carnitas because they knew if they wanted to get to my community and their target audience is the people watching my videos. They're like, you make carlitas and go viral and teach people how to make the best ones. So you should come in and try ours, you know, really? And they were actually bomb as and they did their thing on them. And I went in there, I tried them. It was actually really funny because when I went to go do that sponsorship, I pulled up to the store, I got the Pollo Loco. They paid me my money. I did my whatever. I went outside and I jump started the car. I went home and I see the workers inside. Like, when I walked in, they're like, oh, my God. Like, everyone took pictures and everything. And I'm outside jump starting the car, and I'm just like, bye, guys. Like, it's real life. I'm just. I'm new to this too. The other acted like I'm like a rich, famous superstar. I'm like, bro, I'm broke right now. You know, I'm just. Just doing what I got to do.

[B]

But you don't look broke. You got all that ice around.

[A]

Oh, I'm not broke right now. Not right now.

[B]

Oh, back then.

[A]

Back then, right? So, you know, that was my situation.

[B]

Right there and, like, what you do with your money?

[A]

So my mom and dad have been retired for eight years since my first song dropped. I told them to retire. I take care of majority of My family, too. And then, you know, also, my brother is full. I want a stay at home family, you know, So I tell my family, stay home, kick back. Anything I do, put your hands in it. We work as a team. If I'm selling hoodies, you guys help me ship them. Mom on the website, I'm designing. We're all working with materials. We're moving boxes together. We don't pay a facility. We ship a thousand hoodies if we have to. We've had to. I have, like, pictures of, like, stacks of boxes in the backyard. Like, we're not getting a warehouse. We're doing this out the crib. We don't pay designers. We don't pay none of that. We just do it ourselves.

[B]

I want a hoodie.

[A]

I got you. I got you.

[B]

No, no, I want to pay for the hoodie.

[A]

No, it's.

[B]

No, no. Dylan, on the payout, make certain they have a link or whatever, however you do it. To send everybody to the hoodies, everybody to the. The chef stuff. That's. Dude, that's phenomenal. You just made me hungry, and I'm already full. We just ate, and now I'm hungry.

[A]

You know, we don't want to know something crazy. I saw these people in public before, and I'm just looking at them like, bro, he's looking at me weird. Like he might like me like a dude. All right? And I'm just like. I'm like, chill, bro. Like, let me just keep walking. And I'm like, bro, like, he looks like it. And I'm like, is this motherfucker's mouth watering? I walk up to him and I'm like, what's up, bro? He's like, yeah, let me get a picture, bro. Dead ass, bro. You made my mouth water, bro. You made my mouth water when I seen you. And I'm like, pause, but resume. Because I know what you mean. I know what you mean. He's like, bro, it's because you always pop up with, like, all the food. So when I see you, I'm just like, oh, I'm thinking about all the videos I've seen, you know?

[B]

That's so good, man.

[A]

But, yeah, back to what I was saying, though, about the chef stuff, just so that we could close that topic in. It all started with the music, and then I did my clothing brand. Then I was in between doing content, YouTube, like, stuff like that. And then I was just like, did the cooking videos. One day it just started blowing up. And then, you know, people know me as Chef Suey. And that's like, my most famous gig yet. And, like, I really just feel like the reason why it's so much cooler is because, like, I'm just showing you you could do whatever you put your mind to. Like, I was dead as a rapper on tour, dropping all these songs. I had a record deal and all this and that I did the clothing brand sold so many that I'm stuck in the house shipping for weeks. Like, I've sold out all those products. And then I went and I decided to be a chef, and Gordon Ramsay's hitting me up. You know? Like, it's.

[B]

So tell me about that.

[A]

The Gordon Ramsay stuff. Yeah. So, I mean, I got an email, and I'm like, this is fake, obviously. Like, you're probably just trolling me. Like, I. I'm barely learning, like, the temperatures of how to cook, and now I have to be on this show. They wanted me to go to Ireland for a month, and, like, I don't even know where that is or what that is. I don't know. I'm not even gonna say anything about it. But, like, I was like, bro, my dad, he can't go to Ireland with me. So, like, I'm not gonna go without the person who's teaching me how to cook to go on a cooking competition show. Right, Right. And then, like, a lot of the. I started talking to them more, and I was like, maybe it'll be worth it. And I just talked to them, and then they're like, yeah, bro, we're gonna. We're gonna take this percentage after you come on our show, because we're gonna make you famous. I'm like, you're asking me to be a celebrity chef on Top Level Chef, and you want to take my endorsements after? Like, you're not putting me on, bro. I'm already getting endorsements. You guys are one of the few, you know, Like, I'm not. I'm not giving that up and staying over there for a month at the peak of my chef career. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, also, no one could go. And your first interview is going to be in the show, so be ready. Yeah.

[B]

These people act like.

[A]

They act like they're so. So right big. Like, you're asking me for promo. Literally, you're hitting me up for promo. Yeah. You know, so, like, I love to Gordon. I hope to do a video of him one day, give him some real Mexican food. But, I mean, I'm just not interested in being on the show, because doesn't.

[B]

That guy Yell at people on the show.

[A]

Yeah. Fade if he's yelling at me. I said I'm gonna need a fade if he's yelling at me like that. I like vibes in the kitchen. I like music on. Everyone catching a vibe. You over here yelling at me, I'll pop off.

[B]

That'd be awesome.

[A]

Unless he's teaching me. But if you want to see how I cook, shut the up, sit down, get your plate when it's time, you muppet.

[B]

So check it out. I, I. We have a good vibe. We have a good conversation, always. And, you know, this started out as just a fentanyl thing, right? An awareness for fentanyl, so kids wouldn't die and parents wouldn't have to deal with the pain. But, man, it's tough to talk about fentanyl. Yeah, it just is. I mean, it just destroys you. But I got a hit on it.

[A]

No. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, it's the show.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you ever done fentanyl?

[A]

No.

[B]

Do you press perks?

[A]

No. Nah, never.

[B]

Never. Cocaine? You've never done any drugs? You don't do drugs?

[A]

No, I don't do drugs. I'm. See, the thing is, like, a lot of rappers fall victim to that stuff because they don't have a family around them or they don't have, like, someone who will smack the out of them. It's also why they move the way they move, you know, and do the things they do for me. That's why I put all my money not into security or not into foreign cars or paying friends to make me look cool or be around me, you know? Like, I put my money into my family, the foundation. That's the things that keep me me. You know, once I did this music stuff and blew up everyone, I lost everyone. Every friend that I had is now become a customer. All they want is, hey, post me. Hey, don't forget about me. I'm like, hey, don't. Why don't you answer? Because you're famous. You're a superstar. Oh, there's that. Like, no, my phone was dead. You know, like, you lose everyone. So I wanted to make sure I kept my family close to me. So I always remain me. I knew the Internet would chew me up and spit me out, but, you know, my family is the thing that keeps me sane, you know? So, like, having my family there. Like, I have this video where I was, like, 13 years old in the strip club, eating cookies and milk to one of my songs in New York, and people are like, that's so crazy. This and that. How do your parents feel. I'm like, they're on the other side of that camera, like, over there, sitting right there, having real drinks with their own personal dancing, you know, like they're, you know, they're. They're right there with me. I'm not going to some janky ass strip club in the middle of the night without my parents. I'm 13, you know, like, you take.

[B]

Your parents to a strip club, for.

[A]

Sure I'll still take them right now.

[B]

Take your parents to a strip club?

[A]

Yes. I took my parents to the strip club before.

[B]

Oh, you want to hear the best strip clubs.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Story ever?

[A]

I thought you'd tell me the best strip club to go.

[B]

I've been to a strip Club in 25, 30 years.

[A]

Oh, yeah, me.

[B]

But the best strip club story ever. Let me ask you a question. I heard that at every show, at least one person falls out and dies. That's what I heard. And that's what all these rappers are telling me.

[A]

That's crazy. Like, you know, I actually never really been in the. In the crowd at the shows until recently. Yeah, and I could definitely say that's true. Like, I. I went to this one show, I was at Rolling Loud, and I was backstage in like, 2019, and then I heard Mo Bamba playing my Sheik West. I don't know if you know what that sounds. I got. Oh, it's the latest performance song, right? So I tell my dad. I'm like, hey, we need to go to the crowd for this. And he's like, all right, let's go. Let's get you. Let's get you in there. So we run from back backstage to the crowd. We're in there. I'm like, yeah, dude falls on me, right? And I'm instantly. I was already thinking, nah, bro. Like, someone's gonna try to, like, do something, you know, because everyone's all drunk and I didn't know what they were on. He like, like, it felt like he was pushing me. I push him and he just hits the floor, like, not head down, just. Just rolls over. And then I'm just like. I told my pops, like, hey, what's up with that? You know, like, boom. He's like, kids on drugs, like, remembers, like, what the hell, bro? I'm trying to enjoy the show, but, like, it looks like he died, you know, like, he just, like, lifeless body. And then they come, they pick him up on a wheelchair. My dad's like, you might be ODing or something. They put him on a wheelchair. Like, we told the Security. Then they put him on the chair, and I never see someone on the chair like that. Like, they had the seatbelt on. And it's like his body did not have, like, any bones. He looked like he was made of rubber. He's just like, silicone, like a doll just hanging out the chair. And I'm just like. The whole song's playing. I'm just looking at him being carried away in the wheelchair, and I'm just like, damn.

[B]

See, that's the part that pisses me off, because everybody's desensitized to it, okay? Everybody. You got these kids jumping around, okay? And somebody falls out. Nobody gives a. And, you know, it's just. That was somebody's kid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That mother is swinging from a shower rod, man. She don't want to live. Never. I mean, it is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever heard in my life. I mean, how many friends you have Diafentanyl or acquaintances that you know of?

[A]

Honestly, a lot of older people that we know, like, especially, like, girls in music videos. Like, I hear, like, what, she died? Like, how. Like, it's always, like, the most random.

[B]

Like, well, it's usually the girls, because guys are giving it to them so that they can get with her.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Because they lack the game, okay. To. To make it consensual and get this woman hot for them. Right. So it's easier to pull a Bill.

[A]

Cosby, and it's more so, like, I feel like the harder part with the young generation and Fentanyl is hip hop is glorifying it so crazy on a crazy scale, to the point where it's.

[B]

Like, that's why you're here, big boy. Yeah, that is why you're here.

[A]

They glorify it to the point where it's like. Like, kids want to pop perks to be, like, their favorite rapper, but your favorite rapper's not really popping perks, or else he'd be dead by now because they're all fake. So it's like, how are you promoting something that. A drug that doesn't even exist anymore. Like, doctors aren't even giving this out barely. You know, like, to the point where it's like, you're promoting, literally, fentanyl at that point. You know, like, you had this drop on our clothing brand. That was, like, when perks were super popular and it wasn't all, you know, fentanyl out. We did a perk 30. And it was a heart, and it was like, just. It was just a heart, but it looked like a perk 30 had the line in the 30. And then, like, everyone loved it and everyone was buying it. And like, these people who don't do perks, it's just the hip hop culture, you know?

[B]

Like, were those years the hoodies, were those your shirts?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, from the clothing, man. Right.

[B]

And then how do you feel about that?

[A]

That was a mistake. You know, now that I see what it's doing and all that. So we stopped selling those, and we're like, completely away from the perk wave or anything like that. But it's like, it wasn't just that. It was like we did all. It was a whole drug drop where it was like somewhere zan, somewhere molly. Like, all different pills. It was like car fresheners. I smelled like promethazine, you know, like, it was just great flavor. And people were like, that's so cool. And then, like, I dropped some pillowcases that were like. Like a holder for, like, a gun box. I'm basically dropping toy versions of, like, hip hop culture things they glorify. So I'm not speaking from someone that is just talking about them. You know, I've been in that situation before where I'm the actual person glorifying it. And my explanation for doing so is I. That's what everyone's doing in hip hop. And I'm a kid. Literally. When I was 13, my first song. You know what I said, the first opening line of my song, Pull up with the Molly. I got perks.

[B]

Perks.

[A]

That's the opening line of my first song ever. Right. This is in 2017. How old were you? I was 13 when I was 12 when I made it. And then I turned 13 and dropped it.

[B]

But that's what you're supposed to say at 12. Or.

[A]

You know why I said that?

[B]

Because you were 12 or 13?

[A]

Yeah. No. So I was in the car on the way home from school, and I was really motivated this day to make a song. And my aunt is the only person in my family who plays hip hop because it's like, on the radio. And she happened to pick me up that day. And I hear in. In the car, I hear, future is Molly. Percocets. Percocet. Chase a check. Never chase a. And I'm like, percocet. Okay. That's what they like. I go. And I'm watching all these videos of rappers. Oh, look, perks. Look at these hands. Ah, drugs, drugs. And everyone's like. And I'm like, all right, well, if I show my family life and, you know, my Fishing and how big the bass are that I'm catching and how cute my dogs are when they lay around, you know, like. Or like, no one's gonna give a. I gotta go do something else. You know, like, go write a book. Keep it to yourself. Because in hip hop culture, it's that.

[B]

We're gonna need another podcast.

[A]

Yeah. And so.

[B]

No, I mean, not for us. We're gonna do one for us. We're gonna need another podcast. This is starting to weigh on me. It started to weigh on me now.

[A]

The fennel. Yeah, I feel it. And like, I'm trying to just explain from, like, the deeper depths of someone who's actually, like, I could understand the. Like, I was someone that was glorifying it. You know what I'm saying? Now I don't talk about it, and now it's. Obviously, it's a whole chaos. But, like, I would. Every time I would go somewhere, they're always like, oh, I'm only in Prince. You got that. You want to do drugs. This, that. Like, it's cool to see that. And then I was always never doing drugs or never even. Like, I was around them all the time. Yeah, not right now, but I'll ask you a question.

[B]

Do you. Do you. Do you buy your weed in a dispensary or you get it on the street?

[A]

If I get any weed nowadays, it's like, directly from growers and stuff.

[B]

Okay, listen, I don't know what the.

[A]

Hell that means, but people grow it, basically.

[B]

Yeah, but why not do it? Why not get it from a dispensary?

[A]

Because this, they're. They're just going to grow it and sell it to the dispensary. But it's like mine's like private labeling people, you know, like, it's like something trustworthy, man.

[B]

You're certain it's not. It's not laced with fentanyl?

[A]

Yeah, kinda. Okay. I mean, I don't know. I've never even heard of that.

[B]

Okay, well, it's a thing now. Believe me.

[A]

I thought my parents were lying when they started telling me that.

[B]

No, no. Well, no one's important enough to lie to. And I don't lie. Okay? So I'm telling you that's a thing. So what would make me feel more comfortable is if you only got that stuff at the dispensary, because once you get it at the dispensary, dispensary is not going to any of that stuff, because if they do, they're going to lose their license. You just have to make certain It's a legit dispensary. And not one of those pop ups. Right. And then they, they're open until they get shut down and then they pop up somewhere else the next day. That's. That's what happens.

[A]

No. Yeah, for sure. If that's really true, then I'm staying away from anything that's not in the distance.

[B]

Just get it at the dispensary, dude.

[A]

Yeah, it's easy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So you're gonna pay an extra 20 bucks an ounce, 30 bucks, who cares? You know you just said that you're in love with your family.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. And they all rely on you. It's a family business. You're the family business. Right, okay, but where's the family business without you?

[A]

No, you're right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thanks for telling me about that too though, because I would have never known that, like, was actually for real, like as many people I'm around. That smoke. Nobody ever brought that up.

[B]

Well, I've kind of been doing this a while.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But now, yeah, I've seen it all, like, just people glorifying it. The only reason I stayed out of it is because I understand how bad that is. I grew up with like my parents the way they are. They will take in all their like friends and family that were dealing with all these drug issues, that are addicted. They would take them in. Like, you could come stay with us. We don't have that much. You can stay with us and as long as you're not doing drugs, we'll keep the roof over your head and feed you. These are grown men, 30 year old people that I had to share a room with. I'm already sharing a room with my brother. Now we have to share a room with this 30 year old person who's trying to come back off drugs, you know?

[B]

And like your parents, your parents had an unlicensed rehab.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

And then. Yeah. And I grew up with like, just different people. We love them so much and, you know, we took them in like family and we tried to do the best for as many as we could.

[B]

I like your parents.

[A]

Yeah, I should have brought them. They would have been vibing for sure.

[B]

Oh my God. Do you know if you would have run, if you would have brought your parents, I would have lost my. I would be so happy. I probably would have cried like a little.

[A]

I wanted to ask you, like, what made you bring rappers on here? You know, because obviously you told me you're 58 and you know, you have a lot of different References and, you know, different type of vibe to you that I feel like I wouldn't expect to see you around rappers or choosing rappers as a preferred guest on your show.

[B]

You're the kids who are dying.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

You're the kids who are dying.

[A]

I see what you're saying.

[B]

And then because most of you are glorifying it, the kids who are listening to you are dying. And I have teenagers, and I thought if I didn't do it, I would be punished. So I didn't have a choice. I feel that I didn't want to do a podcast. I'm an executive chairman of a healthcare corporation. Nobody can believe I'm doing this.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Nobody. Trust me, in my world, everybody is pissed off that I'm doing this, and I don't care because doing the right thing is hard sometimes. I've never even seen a podcast. I've never even listened to a podcast ever. I think it's stupid. This isn't for money. This is to do the right thing because I can. That's why.

[A]

That's solid, bro.

[B]

Not really.

[A]

That is.

[B]

I feel the pain all the time.

[A]

The meaning. The meaning behind it is everything, you know? Yeah.

[B]

And if I wasn't so damn tortured, it would be great.

[A]

I feel that I really had to ask that question because I. Throughout the podcast, they kind of let. Pointed to that direction.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, you know, I had interest. If you actually cared about hip hop or anything like that, or the culture about stuff, kids.

[B]

I don't really give a. About anybody but the kids and the parents to keep the. Because it's not something I would just die. Like, my heart would break to. Just to think about it is more than I can bear. So. Yeah, so give me three tips on what I could, you know, just around the house, find and whip up something for my kids.

[A]

I think you gotta just. I think. Damn, bro, it's hard. I'm just, like, giving you straight Mexican advice.

[B]

That's what I want. Mexican advice.

[A]

Mexican advice.

[B]

Damn straight.

[A]

You got it, bro. If you're gonna give your kid some, like, chips or something, just sauce them up. You just know everything could be sauced up. Like, look at this orange juice, Right? Just orange juice. But if I were to just rim it with some chamois dain or some margarita salt, it's over. This is. It could be the word. See, you gave me the best orange juice in the world. Fresh squeeze. The oranges came from the Himalayan mountains. And feel me, all different types of things used for this orange juice. You could have brought me the worst orange juice in the world. Just remit with chamoy and tahin or some margarita, salt and lemon. Put a little wedge on that.

[B]

My son does it. I would have went crazy to rub that on.

[A]

Okay, see?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I would say, just get saucy. Number one, get saucy with it. Number two, get your bases together, like your beans, rice. Get those formulas together because they're way easier than you think, right? And number. The last tip I could give you is turkey's ass. You gotta put some baloney in there or something.

[B]

Baloney?

[A]

I like them straight prison sandwiches. Slap the baloney in there. Leave your little. Air, air. One tomato out of here, bro. Just bologna, cheese, mustard, mayo. Throw some hot Cheetos in that for the crunch. Look at that. You see that, guys? It's beautiful. Just get saucy.

[B]

That's as good as it gets.

[A]

It's as good as it gets, bro.

[B]

Sui Saucy.

[A]

Yeah. Sui Saucy.

[B]

That's awesome. All right, where can we find you?

[A]

You can find me at Xo Sue Generous on Instagram or Ham Sui on Tick Tock. Or just look up Sue Generous on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music, SoundCloud, or just type Chef Suey anywhere in the world you can find Chef.

[B]

That's cool. Hey, do me a favor, will you? Okay. I'm gonna run out to go to my cardiologist before my heart falls out, okay? Like, seriously, I. You know, I mean, I've got small kids, you know, I. I gotta make it till tomorrow, so. So I'm gonna go do that. And you're in the. And you're in the. You're in the Bay Area?

[A]

Yup. San Jose, California.

[B]

You know, second Chef in the Bay Area.

[A]

What? Second Chef.

[B]

Chef Curry, bro.

[A]

There's no way.

[B]

Shout out to Wardell.

[A]

I'm so upset you lost last night, bro. Oh, my God. He stole my parlay. It's all right. Hey, Chef Curry egg. Chef Suey, question mark.

[B]

God, he's the great. Greatest.

[A]

We'll make some curry.

[B]

Before we. Before we end, I just want to say one thing, and then you'll. You'll walk us out of here, okay? All right, Coach Saban, you're breaking my heart. Okay, enough.

[A]

See you next Tuesday, buddy.

[B]

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[A]

See you next Tuesday.