I want to sex you up

Summary

Podcast Summary: "I Want to Sex You Up"
We’re Your Girls, Hosted by Good Mess Media
Release Date: February 21, 2025

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Introduction and Weekly Check-In

The episode opens with the hosts warmly welcoming listeners back to "We’re Your Girls," exchanging pleasantries about their weeks. Host A mentions a recent trip:

• A [00:20]: "We just came back from France."

Host B shares a personal milestone:

• B [00:22]: "Baby's first time in France. One of the first things that Taryn told me when we met is that she wanted to take me to Paris. And after all these years, we've done it. It happened. It was glorious."

Accents and Perceptions

The conversation turns to accents and how they influence perceptions of intelligence and attractiveness.

• A [01:03]: "People with accents not only sound smarter, but they are smarter."
• B [01:21]: "I wonder if people consider how we speak an accent."

They discuss American accents and their own linguistic nuances, touching on Ebonics with a positive outlook:

• A [01:41]: "Ebonics are beautiful. And I don't count Ebonics as you think."
• B [01:46]: "You think Ebonics is beautiful?"
• A [01:47]: "I absolutely do."

Sexual Health: UTIs and Best Practices

A significant portion of the episode delves into the topic of urinary tract infections (UTIs) and their connection to sexual activity. Hosts share personal experiences and advice on preventing UTIs.

• A [02:49]: "When was your last UTI?"
• B [02:53]: "More recent than I care to admit, to be honest."
• A [04:10]: "Pee after sex. [...] If he makes it weird or she. If they make it weird, they're not the one."

Host A recounts a severe UTI incident:

• A [05:44]: "I walk into a City MD somewhere random. And I walk in. I don't know what to do. [...] And a doctor comes out in a white coat."
• A [11:18]: "And she was like, you are so stupid."

The hosts emphasize the importance of addressing UTIs promptly and debunk myths about cranberry juice as a cure:

• A [07:07]: "Within, like, literally 18 hours."
• B [08:25]: "I thought about this the other day, like, when they got yeast infections. UTI."

Smut and Sexual Education Through Literature

Transitioning smoothly, the hosts explore the role of "smut" (erotic literature) in their sexual education and personal growth. They discuss their favorite smut novels, share anecdotes about reading experiences, and reflect on how these books have influenced their understanding of sex.

• A [12:17]: "I love a good smut is a way. Like, there's so much sexual education minus the unrealistic aspect of no UTIs."
• B [14:09]: "We are just the lucky few."

They share humorous critiques of specific smut books, highlighting unrealistic portrayals and the absence of practical advice like peeing after sex:

• A [21:18]: "They get back to his place, she gets in the shower, she's crying. [...] She looked down to see him remove his leather pants."
• B [17:24]: "Wrath of the King by Eris Belmont. I mean, I can't."

Piracy and Early Exposure to Smut

The hosts candidly discuss their early encounters with smut literature, including pirating books and the lack of open conversations about sex in their households.

• B [30:34]: "I discovered it because my mom used to drop me off every week to the library."
• A [35:00]: "I became a little smut dealer at my school."

They reflect on the impact of reading smut at a young age and its role in their sexual development:

• A [33:12]: "I quickly aged out of anything that I should have been reading at that age."
• B [35:29]: "I grew up in the south and I grew up in a Christian household."

Maintaining Friendships Amid Relationship Changes

A heartfelt discussion ensues about maintaining strong female friendships despite changes in relationship statuses, such as marriage or having children. The hosts address fears of isolation and emphasize the importance of conscious efforts to sustain their bond.

• A [41:17]: "Are we really saying that women with similar sex lives can only relate to other women with similar sex lives?"
• B [42:29]: "Why is that?"

They encourage listeners to keep communication open and support each other regardless of life changes:

• A [43:56]: "Things don't have to change when your friends get married. I think it is a conscious choice."
• B [44:04]: "We never stop inviting each other."

Conclusion and Future Endeavors

The episode wraps up with the hosts reiterating their commitment to open sexual conversations and teasing upcoming topics.

• A [44:12]: "Don't give up."
• B [47:52]: "Trivei Diva."

They announce plans for future episodes, including a focus on money matters:

• A [48:02]: "Next week, we talk all things moolah and money."

Notable Quotes

• A [01:03]: "People with accents not only sound smarter, but they are smarter."
• B [02:09]: "This week's episode is gonna be juicy. No pun intended."
• A [12:17]: "I love a good smut is a way. Like, there's so much sexual education minus the unrealistic aspect of no UTIs."
• B [37:28]: "Sexual liberation. Liberation is on the other side of reading about."
• A [38:15]: "Sex with a half man, half wolf, half elf. Not something about these books you're reading."

Episode Insights and Takeaways

1. Sexual Health Awareness: The hosts provide valuable insights into preventing and managing UTIs, emphasizing simple practices like peeing after sex to maintain urinary health.

2. Role of Smut in Sexual Education: They highlight how erotic literature has played a significant role in their understanding of sex, filling gaps left by traditional education.

3. Friendship Dynamics: The conversation underscores the importance of maintaining open communication and support within female friendships, regardless of changes in personal relationships.

4. Empowerment Through Conversation: By openly discussing topics like sexual health and smut literature, the hosts advocate for sexual positivity and empowerment among women.

5. Humorous Storytelling: Throughout the episode, the hosts infuse humor into their discussions, making complex and personal topics engaging and relatable for listeners.

Conclusion

"I Want to Sex You Up" is a candid and engaging episode where the hosts navigate through topics of sexual health, the formative role of smut literature, and the dynamics of sustaining strong female friendships amidst life's transitions. Their blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and insightful discussions offers listeners both entertainment and valuable takeaways.

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Transcript

[A]

Cause we're your girls hey.

[B]

Cause I like how you do.

[A]

Welcome back to we're youe Girls. We're youe Girls. I hope you had a good week. How was your week?

[B]

How was your week? My week was good, you know, can't complain. Can't complain. How about yourself?

[A]

Good. We just came back from France.

[B]

We sure did. We sure did. Baby's first time in France. One of the first things that Taryn told me when we met is that she wanted to take me to Paris. And after all these years, we've done it. It happened. It was glorious.

[A]

We did it. We're done. We out there.

[B]

It's done.

[A]

How did you like Paris?

[B]

Oh, I loved it. I mean, I know we've talked ad nauseam about it. I want to move there. We need real estate. We need property. We need visas.

[A]

Visas.

[B]

Got to start somewhere. Property, acreage, in that order.

[A]

Perhaps a small. What is it called? Not a vg. What is it? Trace, you're a Euro person, although you're not exactly European. You're like. You're like.

[B]

You're like a non American homestead.

[A]

What is it called when somebody has lots of land in your land? An estate. An estate. You hear? She has a really great accent. She goes. An estate owner. Oh, I love our producer, Trace. She has a cool accent. People with accents not only sound smarter, but they're. They are smarter.

[B]

I wonder if people consider how we speak an accent. I think about that when I go, so everything. Does it sound like an accent? But is it as sexy as, like, an Australian accent or.

[A]

I think Americans talk like Sims dun can growl. Like that's what we sound like. Our language is lazy and clunky.

[B]

Yeah, that's accurate. Add to that Ebonics and being Southern. It just sounds.

[A]

Let me stop you there, because Ebonics are beautiful. And I don't count Ebonics as you think.

[B]

You think Ebonics is beautiful?

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I absolutely do.

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Before we kick it off, we have to do our toast.

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You better have a toast this week.

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You better ask. I do. To sex, smut and UTIs.

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See, we're about to put NPR out.

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Of business because this week's episode is gonna be juicy. No pun intended. This is gonna be fun. That was nasty coming from. That was nasty.

[A]

You know, let me stop.

[B]

No, what was you about to say? Cause you was about to say something. I know what you about to say.

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All right.

[B]

We won't even say that. Anyway, welcome back, you guys. I hope last week's episode found you well. Found you happy. Found you joyful.

[A]

And I hope you had a good week this week. It's. I hope that you're winding down your week. I hope you're having a good time.

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I hope you've got your glass ready.

[A]

So welcome back to the couch. Yeah. So let's just jump right in. When was your last uti?

[B]

More recent than I care to admit, to be honest.

[A]

Absolutely. When? Our second time hanging out, Tiffany was like, girl, it hurts when I pee. And I said, you have got a uti.

[B]

And I had never had one before.

[A]

And so she's like, I just need to drink a lot of water and cranberries.

[B]

Juice and cranberry.

[A]

But all right. I'm a little older than Tiffany, a.

[B]

Little longer in the tooth.

[A]

A little long, you know, which means I've had just a couple more UTIs as. As one does.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So I knew I had been down this road before, and I said, oh, young, young sapling. You've got to get to a City md.

[B]

So that was our, like, third or second or third friend date.

[A]

And I took her to City md and I sat in the waiting room with you, showing you memes you did. I forced you in there.

[B]

And I didn't have insurance at the time because we. We've said this multiple times at this point. But when we met, we both did not have money, so things were tight. And I did not have insurance because I was an unpaid intern and I had to pay out of pocket and was so stressed about having this damn UTI because I did not want to pay for it. Ended up working out. But, yeah, that was our first.

[A]

The doctor was lovely, and she, like, figured a way around the insurance thing.

[B]

She was. So I ended up not having to.

[A]

Pay, which is really cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But. And I remember we sat in the lobby and I told you the story of my. One of my last worst UTIs. I've had many. Which brings me to my point. Pee after sex.

[B]

Do it. You'll still be cute when you get back. Girl, go ahead and get up and go to the bathroom, take a little pee.

[A]

And if he makes it weird or she. If they make it weird, they're not the one.

[B]

They are not the one. Because the sneak out for me. I'm not even cute when I do it anymore. I throw them sheets back so fast. I'm like, I see you in a second.

[A]

Well, it's been. I'm married and I bounce out of there like we just met. I'll be like, well, that was great. I'm heading out to go pee I'll be right back. I springboard out of there. I do a backflip.

[B]

But when you think about it, there's no cute way to slink off to go pee after sex. Because. But did I tell you this? I told this or said this to one of my partners, and they had positive right on sex. Positive right on peon diva. Pee on Pia. That was adhd. Did the thoughts, where's my camera?

[A]

That's what I want to say every time. Imagine my face after you have sex.

[B]

Every time. Exactly. Just like that.

[A]

Go pee.

[B]

I said this to the partner, and they did not know. That's why women got up to leave. They just thought that it was like a general cleaning of the. The nether regions kind of thing. And I'm like, no. Yes. Girls are getting up, or women are getting up. Vagina cares are getting up to go pee.

[A]

We're draining the weasel. Ew.

[B]

I didn't like that at all. We're rinsing the. No, rinsing the weasel would have been better. We're rinsing the weasel.

[A]

Go pee.

[B]

So anyway, you didn't pee, and this is how you got the craziest UTI of your life. Tell us about it.

[A]

I was a fool and didn't pee after sex because I was young and proud. I am now married to this person. Me and my husband have been. Been together for 10 years. So a long time. I. When we first met, I don't know why I couldn't get into my head two things. I continued to get pink eye because I kept putting the same false eyelashes on bathroom counters in public restrooms. And I'd be like, why do I have my. Why is my eye always swollen shut? And do I have. I have chronic UTIs? Because I am not going pee after sex.

[B]

Risky business. Dangerous work.

[A]

I'm not draining the weeds.

[B]

I have two questions. Were you taking your eyelashes off before you had sex and then you'd put them on?

[A]

No, No. I just always did my eyelashes in various. Like, I would. I would beat my face in any. Like, any. I've done my makeup in Grand Central Station. I don't make up in cabs, cars, bathrooms. So I was just always like, I've been a hotel bathroom and I put my eyelashes on.

[B]

Just put them on the sink.

[A]

The sink. I didn't even think about the fact how careful you have to do with anything that touches your eyes.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

I'm not ashamed to talk about this because, frankly, there might be a woman out there listening to this who also didn't know. And who right now has poopy eye? Oh, listen, Queen Diva. Listen, diva, you've got to stop.

[B]

You have got to wash your eyes and hands. No judgment from this cornet account. Handle your business. Okay.

[A]

Anyways, long story short, at the time, I worked at a little bridal store in Seattle, okay? And I came into work one day, and I was like, oh, it hurts on ip. I think I've got another uti. And my boss at the time was like, I've got the best remedy. And she gave me cranberry pills, okay. And a bottle of cranberry juice. She was like, down this bottle. This, like, bottle of cranberry juice. Take these cranberry pills, and you will be UTI free by the end of the week.

[B]

Now, this is an important question. Was it cranberry cocktail or, like, the straight up cranberry juice that curls with chest hairs?

[A]

It was. It was like, I went and she had said, you need organic, like, cranberry juice, but I went and got Ocean Spray. What do you want me to say? What do you want me to say? What do you want me to say?

[B]

No.

[A]

What do I mean?

[B]

Cocktail.

[A]

What do you want me to do? I had no idea. That's how cranberries taste.

[B]

Like. So you take the bottle.

[A]

Drank a whole gallon of Ocean Spray, took a bottle of cranberry pills, and.

[B]

I was diabetic, shot.

[A]

And here's. Let's be fair. I. My symptoms did subside for a little while.

[B]

Look at God.

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Keep listening. Oh, because it's actually. Look at Satan.

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Oh, no.

[A]

So anyway, my. My, my. Like, my symptoms do kind of get better. And I was like, well, I guess I don't need to go antibiotics to cure UTI. That's not true. Stop it. If it was the 1700s, I would have been dead years ago.

[B]

I thought about this the other day, like, when they got yeast infections. Uti.

[A]

We can't even discuss it.

[B]

Pneumonia. Like, we can't even discuss.

[A]

You do what you passed on.

[B]

You let go and you let God like crazy.

[A]

No, no. You just passed away.

[B]

That was it.

[A]

That's about it.

[B]

Like, a common UTI would have taken both of us.

[A]

I would have one eye. From the amount of times I had pink eye.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

And my vagine would just be sandpaper. Oh, I'd be like. I'd be uninhabitable anyways. Not conducive to life.

[B]

So you.

[A]

So I actually traveled that week. I got on a plane.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I mean, I'm. I take a plane With a uti. And I remember I got off the plane and I felt a bit feverish. I was like, I think I'm coming down with the flu. No, no, no, Diva. That was sepsis setting in.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

So we go to bed at the hotel, Wake up the next morning. Immediately I wake up, and I feel sick. Like, I'm actually sick. I go pee. Then blood in the toilet. I fill the toilet with blood. I'm walking through the streets of the city never been to before. I have no idea what's going on. A man I remember ran into me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it hurt all the way through my bones. Like, everything hurt. This was the. This was the stupidest thing I've ever done. Like, truly, I'm mad at myself for having let a UTI get this far. Like, I actually was. Like, I had cold sweats. This was insane. This was insane. Never let your UTIs get this far. The point of the story is I walk into a city MD somewhere random. And I walk in. I don't know what to do. I'm. By the way, this is really. This is really important to the story. I am 20 years old, which means I have no ability to handle anything calmly or with any couth or tact ever. So I walk up to the woman. She's like, here's some paperwork. And I was like, janice, can I call you Janice? I'm peeing blood. And she goes, huh? Now, I've never been to New York before. Like, I said, here's the paperwork. I said, janice, I don't think.

[B]

I think you understand this very.

[A]

I am not capable of literacy at this time. I'm peeing blood. And she was like, here's your paperwork. I was like, my God, I'm gonna die in this lobby. I'm sitting there, and a doctor comes out in a white coat. I stand up in the lobby with the paperwork in my hand, and I was like, excuse me, doctor, please. I've let a UTI permeate my blood. I need help, please. I'll never do this again. I'll never have sex again.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

They're like, ma'am, please make your turn. Stay calm. I'm actually having an attack. Like, I'm so scared, crazy. I go into the back. I sit in her office, and when. Okay, then you get a nurse, and the nurse is, like, typing away, and she goes, okay. And what seems to be your symptoms? I'm like, did you not hear me?

[B]

I'm pissing blood, lady.

[A]

Hear me. I'm peeing blood. And they're like, okay, we're gonna have you. I remember she handed me the little cup, and she goes, you're gonna have you pee this cup. And I said, I want you to know right now it's gonna be just blood.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh. The doctor came in. She put the little sample in to see if it's a uti. And she was like, yep, I don't need to test this anymore. You have a uti, and it's getting very serious. I can tell you don't feel well. I'm going to put you on a really strong antibiotic. And her name was Dr. Butts. I'll never forget that because her name was Dr. Butts.

[B]

B U, T, T, S. That's crazy. I knew a Butts. Couple butts.

[A]

And I'm sitting there in a cold sweat, and I said, by the way, I got to thank you so much. I'll never forget your name, because it's kind of funny. And she went, mm, I've gotten that before. And I went, all right, she's not moved at all. Good to see you. And I said, just for the record, to confirm the cranberry juice thing's a myth. And she literally looked at the eyes like, you are so stupid. And I was like, what do you want me to say?

[B]

That's crazy. And you're cured of the damn UTI.

[A]

Oh, my God. Within, like, literally 18 hours.

[B]

It's insane how fast that medicine works. Like the bomb of Iliad. You take that, and you immediately start feeling better.

[A]

Anyways, pee after having sex in our. Me and Tiffany love a good smut. We love a romance novel.

[B]

Love it.

[A]

And in. I have never, ever, ever, ever read a romance novel. A single romance novel, and I read a lot of them in which the heroine is going pee after sex.

[B]

No.

[A]

I've got to know. You guys are in medieval Middle Earth. You're fairy people. You're telling me you don't need to pee after sex?

[B]

I wonder who was like, this is me getting into the weeds. But who discovered the uti? How did they finally figure out after all this time of having sex, humans procreating, that you got to go pee? Like, what did it take?

[A]

Somebody with a small bladder, maybe? And she was like, oh, girls, I'd never have a uti.

[B]

But you brought up something valid. In all of our years of romance reading, because sex is. I mean, I learned about sex through smut novels. In all of my years of reading smut books, it never once, not once can say with my full chest, was it stated that the woman got up and went to the restroom afterwards to take care of her.

[A]

Exactly. And so I think that that is the way. And I get it. They don't put it in a smut novel. Cause it's not sexy or romantic. But they're always like. And then I woke the next morning.

[B]

Like, I would put it into the.

[A]

One foot in the grave.

[B]

I would have. I would have crotch ro. I did not go to the bathroom immediately.

[A]

Trench foot.

[B]

I need you. Exactly. Instead of trench foot and scruff.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I need you to.

[A]

I'm like, why didn't you wake me up?

[B]

It is imperative. And it's. I mean, it. Be happening that fast, too. Like, I won't get into the weeds of this, but I'll just say it's imperative. And so I didn't know that the first. I didn't have sex for the first time until I was well into my 20s. And so it just was not talked about in my household, for one. Or if it was talked about, I was very much like, ill, mom, I don't want to hear about this.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

I got my books to educate me, whatever. So I learned the very, very hard way to take care of thine vagina.

[A]

Although not everyone gets UTIs.

[B]

We are just the lucky few.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love that a smut is a way. Like, there's so much sexual education minus the unrealistic aspect of no DTIs.

[B]

And like, the number of times women come in these books.

[A]

Like, oh, I know.

[B]

Unheard of. Unheard of. I was actually, funnily enough, I told you I'm rewatching girlfriends right now. And there was an episode about sex the other day. I don't know what season I'm in. And one of the characters, Tony, she talked about the fact that she went and got a massage, and the massage therapist made her have an orgasm. And she's like, did I cheat on my husband? And everyone's like, maybe. How good was it? So all the girls end up going back to the salon to or to the massage parlor to have orgasms with this man. But nonetheless, it's known or it's a well known fact that Tony does not have orgasms. And so she's. She's a whole married woman. And it's like, I've come six times in my life. And I was like, that's the realest thing that I've ever heard on television with a group of women. Truly.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I mean, we don't talk about that. We don't.

[A]

That some women don't experience.

[B]

It just doesn't happen. I think the. The statistics statistic is like 1 in 3 or something like that. Right.

[A]

I didn't know that.

[B]

It's something incredible. It's like an insane margin that's actually kind of not appalling, but just shocking. Especially when you take into consideration, like, sex book culture and how that really.

[A]

Does riddled with O's.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Am I allowed to say the word? I said it. Oh, well. I said, come and orgasm. Crazy.

[A]

I don't care.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

This is our show.

[B]

But I said, that is wild that they talked about that on network.

[A]

That is really, really interesting.

[B]

And that was important. That was an important conversation that one would have. Anyway, I love a good O. I do too.

[A]

But smuts are crazy. I was reading a smut in which. Wait, you have some of the funniest smuts on your phone.

[B]

I do. And the list continues to grow.

[A]

So here's what's really funny. We'll be out with a group of girls, me and Tiffany. We're at a. We're at a bar with a group of women that we don't know very well.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And we were all talking and I said, they're like, what do you like to do in your pastime? And I was like, we're big readers. We love to read. That wasn't meant for us to all start talking about books.

[B]

No.

[A]

Because at which point we had to reveal the fact that we have a very limited array of books that we read.

[B]

And that came about because usually when you say, I love reading. I'm a big reader. People want recommendations. I can't give you recommendations on what I be reading.

[A]

Go ahead and read and what your recommendations are. Pull up your Kindle library right now.

[B]

I got it open already.

[A]

Pull up mine.

[B]

Because I knew that's where you was going. I said, she wants to know. Currently in June.

[A]

I'll trade you one. Wait, what are you reading right now?

[B]

His Darkest Devotion. Third book in the series called His Darkest Deceit.

[A]

Delicious. Hold on. I gotta tell the audience, because that is what these things are called. Twit. When I have is Twisted Games.

[B]

Ooh, I think I've read that one. Who's it by?

[A]

Anna Juan.

[B]

Yes. I can picture the COVID She is like, is it. That's not a chance.

[A]

It's this man that looks like he's at the bottom of a well. Hold on. He's like, ooh, look at this man.

[B]

I have. I think I have an Anna Huang book on here right now.

[A]

They're all in black and white.

[B]

Correct.

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They're all black.

[B]

This one popped up on Instagram as an ad, but I cannot recommend it. It was terrible. Mafia King Dario. I sent it to Taryn and was like, they got the right one. And I downloaded it immediately, but Taran thought it said Mafia Kings. Derulo.

[A]

I thought it was. I thought it was a Jason Derulo fanfic.

[B]

It was a terrible. Don't read. I can't even say it was terrible. That's not nice to say.

[A]

That's hilarious.

[B]

Okay. I don't want to upset authors.

[A]

Hard target. Pamela Claire.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

Disgusting.

[B]

Yeah, it was a nasty.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Deal with the Elf King. At least go by, that was good and I don't want to hear it. I love that book. It was filthy.

[A]

Deal with the Elf King. Smut needs to be stopped. I have nothing to stop that. That is so funny.

[B]

We also have Scoring the Player's Baby, because why not?

[A]

What the hell? You read the worst girl.

[B]

Wrath of the King by Eris Belmont. I mean, I can't. I'm trying to keep up with you. Keep going, keep going, keep going.

[A]

Mine are born. Oh, Rogue spy. Joanna Bourne.

[B]

Is that one of your.

[A]

You know, I didn't finish that. That's a DNF for me. I didn't finish it, but it didn't mean it wasn't good. I just didn't finish it.

[B]

That's all right.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Wait, what do you have?

[A]

I love a good Nora Roberts dance. Upon Air.

[B]

Oh, my goodness. This is how I know you're more grown than me. Because you read Nora Roberts, and I love that for you. They're not sexy enough for me.

[A]

You're right. She does be doing the. She does. And then, like, the camera pans off.

[B]

She doesn't get into.

[A]

She doesn't get into, like, dirty, dirty, dirty.

[B]

No. I grew up watching my mom read Nora Roberts books, and I thought, like, that would be. That's. That's when I know I'm grown. And then when I finally went to pick up my first one, I was like, not enough.

[A]

Hold on. When I was in you. When I was in school, I. I actually studied human rights and diplomacy, and one of my professors recommended a book to me. We're having a casual conversation. I should have known that the Naked Diplomat was actually a book about diplomacy. I have never opened a book and been so disappointed in my life. I was like, what the hell? I got two chapters in, and I was like, nobody's kissing anybody.

[B]

You jump on the Chance to read it.

[A]

The Naked Diplomat. And you can see on my Kindle, It's. I'm at 1%.

[B]

I was gonna say, did you ever.

[A]

I was like, I thought we were homegirls.

[B]

I thought.

[A]

Because then. Because to my chagrin, I do have to say, and I've never spoken as a professor again. She recommended to me the Naked Diplomat. I recommended to her. Frigging dangerous secrets. I'm hollering, I pray she didn't take me up on that recommendation. Cause she's gonna be chapter one in and be like, what the.

[B]

What you never hear from her again. She's like.

[A]

And in this specific book, if I remember correctly, it was one where the main character, the guy. I laugh also. You have to read Smut. Ready to laugh at it. Like it's supposed to be kind of funny. It's funny.

[B]

But no. See, I would have to disagree because I did not go into it thinking that this would be funny. I'm like, this is real life shit.

[A]

This is how it's both, ooh, this is hot. And also like, this is stupid.

[B]

But I don't have that. This is stupid. I'm usually like, this is real life. Like this is how it's supposed to happen.

[A]

So I'm reading one book and he's a. They're always a detective. He's a cop, right?

[B]

I'm switching wine for a while.

[A]

And oftentimes they don't, they don't give you a ton of description. Like they don't tell you what a man is wearing. Like head to especially the men. And we get through a whole scene, a whole day. And she's in witness protection. A detective is protecting her. My favorite storyline. They get back to his house cuz it's the only place in the city that's safe. Oh no, we've got to go back to his place. What will we do?

[B]

What will we do?

[A]

They get back to his place, she gets in the shower, she's crying. She's like, I've had so much horrible things happen me today. I'm like, where's the detective? Do we have eyes on the detective? Where's he at? Then he comes in, he's like, I couldn't stop. I couldn't listen to you cry and not come and comfort you.

[B]

I'm hollering, we're like, oh, something's about to go down.

[A]

And I remember I laughed out loud because we're getting ready for like this really romantic scene. And he like obviously sees her in the shower. It's a whole Thing. And then it goes. She looked down to see him remove his leather pants.

[B]

I'm screaming.

[A]

And I was like, you're telling me this, man, this entire book has been wearing leather chaps.

[B]

Squeaking through the tabs. Skirt, skirt, skirt. You're telling me he has a bottle of baby powder with him at all times? Got to prevent chafing. That's so crazy.

[A]

We get around the bathroom, he squeaks up to her.

[B]

See, when those details are listed, I just skip over them. I'm like, I don't want to hear real life. I don't want to know. Like, I skip over ages. I make up my own ages.

[A]

Oh, if they're teenagers. That's weird.

[B]

I make up my own descriptions.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I cast myself in all books.

[A]

You do.

[B]

So if she's a willowy blonde. Not today.

[A]

Now.

[B]

She's a feisty dark today. And that's all I'll say.

[A]

Oh, my God, I love that. I actually love casting my smut books.

[B]

I know. And we. We have our, like, a repertoire of people that we constantly use. Henry Cavill. I know I say his name wrong.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Henry Cavill.

[A]

How do you say it? I don't know.

[B]

I hear Cavill and Cavill, but I'm Cavill.

[A]

I don't know what I say.

[B]

Cavill.

[A]

All right.

[B]

But that's like how I pronounce. Charlize. Theron. I say Theron.

[A]

Theron.

[B]

Charlize. The wrong.

[A]

Siberius.

[B]

Siberius.

[A]

Siberia. Theron Jones.

[B]

Alabama State.

[A]

Alabama State.

[B]

Wide receiver.

[A]

Wide receiver. I'm gonna put this pillow over my toes because I haven't had a man. I haven't had a pedicure in at least a fort and not a fortnight. I haven't had a pedicure in 100 years.

[B]

That's why I got you. The corn on this toe would appall you like it's. And I got a pedicure two weeks ago.

[A]

Like my bunions misshape or have created a shape to my tennis shoes. Oh, that is insane. I look like a centaur walking around in your arms.

[B]

That's crazy. My favorite joke is that God dipped Taryn and I in the pretty jar by our ankles because if we had gorgeous feet, we'd be unstoppable. So we both have some really crazy feet. Like bunions, corns. I'm talking not hammer foot. Like, wild out here.

[A]

We look like we worked in. We had that. We had to be shoeless for the first half of our lives.

[B]

1000%. Which is ridiculous because we didn't have to be.

[A]

We didn't have to be. Although I was barefoot quite a bit growing up.

[B]

I wasn't. I just got genetically bad feet. My dad has horrible feet, too.

[A]

My dad has bad feet.

[B]

Like, bad. Anyway, back to the books. Point B.

[A]

Back to the books. Also another thing. No one ever describes the men's feet because if they would. They did. It would take you right out of the romance.

[B]

That's so true. But if they did, I would just skip over it. That's a detail I need. So you just skip over girl. The book gets create. Like, this is why I love reading and especially why I love romance novels over movies. Even though I have my select few favorite movies and writers hard for those.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I like to create the story in my head.

[A]

Me too. It's a movie in my mind.

[B]

I look at the book as a loose footprint of how things could go.

[A]

My favorite thing is that. So I don't cast myself as the main romantic lead. But if there's a quirky best friend, I'll throw myself in there and be like, okay. I can imagine that. Also, it's less brain power to imagine yourself in a visual role, like, with the movie in your mind.

[B]

I see.

[A]

I was reading a book recently where she had like, this funny brown best friend with curly hair. So I was like, yep, that's me. I fit the role because I don't want to be the heroine at all.

[B]

Oh, I do.

[A]

I. I don't want to be there. I wanted to be the best friend that comes in, but like five chapters in, it was like. And then Giselle was dead.

[B]

And I was like, God damn, that's me. That's why you cast yourself as lead because you never died in the back corner. You're just funny and dead.

[A]

And I'm sitting there like, no, Giselle.

[B]

So what do you do then? Do you body hop to another character?

[A]

No, I'm just dead now.

[B]

Someone. Oh.

[A]

And then throughout this, throughout the the book series, when they're like, remembering Giselle, it's just me. It's just a photo of me in black and white. Life is our way. I want to ride it all night long in memory of Giselle.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

And I'm like, damn it. I should have known. The funny black friend was about to always gets offed.

[B]

That's dangerous.

[A]

You know, it wasn't Giselle. It was. I don't want to know. She doesn't die in that series. But I don't want to spoil a book series for anyone. So I won't spoil a series. But anyways, also side note, audience, and leave us comments. We want to start doing a book club, like, once every three episodes. We, like, review a book with you. Let us know if you'd be interested. Tiffany and I, every few months, do a book together.

[B]

But as history would tell, Taryn moves on without me.

[A]

That's not true.

[B]

Please enlighten them. When did you not leave me?

[A]

We read together. You were like, girl, I haven't read in a week. And I waited for you. I said, you have one week.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

To get caught up to me.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

And you didn't read, so the class moved on.

[B]

That's a lie, because I did catch up. And then you kept going. You're like, I'm sorry. I read through the night. 3am you're reading. And then you said, I'm sorry. You were on a trip. I thought you would be reading too. And I said, nah, child, but I'll catch up. And then you kept going.

[A]

You also didn't like the book, though, so you.

[B]

I was forcing myself. I was forcing myself. This is the key for book club, though. We got to like the book we all read together. Because book club ain't no fun if you don't like.

[A]

We read from Blood and Ash loved it. I loved it.

[B]

Book one, I was okay with. I'm just such a snob sometimes. You're not a snob just because with certain book. With certain books. Yeah, like Romantasy. I'm. I can say with my full chest that I'm a snob now because it's been like a decade in this genre. I'm like, if it ain't good, I can't.

[A]

Something can pull me out of a book really quick. I'm like, what the hell?

[B]

I can't be in it six books. You know, if it ain't cutting it, the first one or two, I gotta go. I got to get out of here. So Blood Nash was a rough one for me, so don't recommend that.

[A]

That's fair.

[B]

Are you gonna finish it? You're gonna finish it.

[A]

I already finished. I'm like, up to the last. Second to last book. One thing I don't like is when there's a book series and it's like, oh, but you've got to read the prequel that they released on book six first. Don't try to make me read all the books out of order. What is this? Lord of the Rings? Star Wars? Don't make me read this backwards. Get right to the Pants being off.

[B]

So you're not gonna go back and read the prequel? That's a lot I don't want to commit to.

[A]

I'm over by that point.

[B]

That's a lot to commit to.

[A]

Like, just give me a straight storyline that I can enjoy. Give me some, you know, explosions, battle. How about swords?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A duel at dawn.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then a heated exchange, and I'll be really happy. Have you ever read a smut where you're half. Where you get to a chapter and you're like, that was. That was too much.

[B]

You feel sullied after.

[A]

You're like that. You, like, close the book and you're like, I didn't like that at all. That was crazy. Well, Kim are insane.

[B]

From how you describe the ending of whatever the last book is of a Blood and Bl Nash, that to me sounded like sullied. I'm just like, oh, that's how that went. Like, that's how I would feel in.

[A]

I will say, like, I like. Like, to me, like, in a smut, the love scenes have to advance the plot line of the. The two main characters. So, like, you have to like. I love a slow burn.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Queen of the I love a slow burn. I love that stuff. And sometimes when you get into a series, it has five, six, and seven books. They're just trying to, like, keep up the fire.

[B]

They have a sex quota. Yeah.

[A]

And I think that by. By book six or seven, sometimes, not always. You read it and you're like, you were just trying. They're like, and then we flew through the skies, and his wings were spread as he penetrated.

[B]

Like, really, Michael?

[A]

And you're like, you guys are having sex in the sky?

[B]

Well, you know, that's how deal with the elf king. They was having sex in the sky, and I was for it.

[A]

How did you even discover smut? Like, what was your first smut book?

[B]

I wish that I could remember the title, but I discovered it because my mom used to drop me off every week to the library. I was a voracious reader as a middle schooler. Like, 11, 12, 13 is when I really started to tap into books. So she would drop me off at the library every week and I would check out seven books because that was the maximum. And I come out with my books. And eventually she stopped checking the books that I was reading. So I started to get a little saucy and was like, you know what? Maybe I can make my way into the contemporary room.

[A]

I was gonna say, you find yourself in the contemporary section.

[B]

Oh, yeah, because they had a whole separate section for ya. And that's where I used to live hours on hours. And I said, this week I'm try something different. And it started off with one book. I would just sneak in one my, like, looking back, very mild. Maybe one fade to black sex scene. And I was like reading this in my bed. Like, oh, my God, that's so nasty.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But didn't really know what was happening. I was just like, okay, fade to black. Like, the detail wasn't plentiful.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Details started getting real plentiful real quick. Let me tell you that. And so I would go back to the library and my mom stopped checking the books. I was checking out the dirtiest, nastiest stuff at like 13.

[A]

What was your first?

[B]

14. It was an Elona. I have it on my phone. An Alona Matthews or Andrews. What's her name? Hold on. White Hot by Alona Andrews.

[A]

I knew the name because I will never forget this story.

[B]

The. And I said, oh, yeah, I'm in it to win it. I also read a lot of people. Book readers will know this. Cheryl and Kenyon. I'm pretty sure that's how you say her name. Or Cheryl Kenyon or something like that. The dirtiest stuff that even as an adult today, I'm like, what? That's how I learned about, like, fingering blow jobs. Like, I didn't know what any of this was. I was like, 13. The gas. I was like 13 under my cover. So then I just became not addicted to it. But I was like, I have to know more. And I didn't have anybody to talk about this stuff with. No one else was reading in my friend group.

[A]

I brought it up to like one or two of my little.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Girlfriends. And it was like, what is. And I'm like, you know what? Oh, you guys aren't reading about a. He put his finger on a bundle of nerves. I was coming to compare notice to see if you guys knew where the bundle of nerves was, because I didn't.

[B]

I wish we had each other and we say that all the time. That we would have been friends or you don't think we would have been friends? I think I would have been friends.

[A]

That would have been too nerdy for you. I was this weird kid.

[B]

I was the nerd, like, savior, though.

[A]

Yeah, you were cool.

[B]

I wasn't. I was just the funny black girl. So I was. I existed in a world of my own.

[A]

Like, I was a little. Listen, as I always say.

[B]

It's like I always say I was a little clown.

[A]

And sometimes you got clown around. I've been clowning around since day one.

[B]

I didn't have anybody to compare notes with.

[A]

I was on a family trip to the coast of Oregon because I'm from Seattle.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we were at a beach house and I was pissing my mom off, and she said, why don't you find a book to read or something? Oh, did I? I became suspiciously quiet for the rest of that trip.

[B]

That's how it went. That's how it went. Everyone was like, you were such a good kid as a middle school. No.

[A]

The book I found in the bathroom was called the Duke and I, which would now fondly be referred to as the Bridgerton series. They would go on to make a show about it. I read that for the first time at 12 years old. My mom saw the COVID and it was just a woman in a beautiful big dress and she's like, run. I think I remember in the Duke and I, I thought it was a princess story.

[B]

Not so fast.

[A]

This is what dreams are made of, if you will. Anyways, I remember getting to the first scene and being like, I had a. I had an attack. I was turning the book to the side. Like, what did he say? That went where?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it was a fantastical experience. I would never pick up the Chronicles of Narnia again.

[B]

Amen. I quickly aged out of anything that I should have been reading at that age. I was.

[A]

No. And then my mom ended up just finding out what I was reading. My mom, though, is cool. One was a real one. And I don't know if there's any. I'm sure there are moms listening to this podcast and I'm sure you'll have different opinions on this, and that's okay. I had a very sex positive mom, and when she did eventually discover that I was reading smut at around 13, I think my mom just decided, well, it was natural that she would be curious about sex eventually. And reading it in a book is, like the least scary place that my child can learn about sex. So I think my mom just decided that a smut was like, the safest place that I could learn about sex. We won't and shouldn't have any listeners that are children don't listen to. If you are. If you're on episode two and you're.

[B]

Under 18, you got to get off your zoom. Don't do it.

[A]

Go do your homework.

[B]

Go do your homework anyway. No, that's a good point. But I actually talked about this with my mom recently. She did not know. She still. Literally, up until about six months ago, she did not know that I was like a voracious smut reader. My entire.

[A]

Really? Yeah. Anyway, your mom didn't know that you read smut?

[B]

No.

[A]

She never just looked at what you were reading?

[B]

No, it was lock and key, my girl. And then I eventually started to read on my phone. I stopped going to the library and started to get Kindle books only, but I was downloading them illegally. So she would pirate in books. What can I say?

[A]

Pirating books.

[B]

Oh, my God. I read thousands of books before the 10th grade. Illegally. Hadn't paid for a school girl. We'll talk after this. Because I didn't start paying books. Paying for books until very recently.

[A]

That's crazy. I knew people were pirating music.

[B]

Oh, my God. I was pirating.

[A]

I became a little smut dealer at my school.

[B]

That's so.

[A]

So I would get the book and then all my girlfriends, I would eventually be like, you should read this.

[B]

But you had the physical copy.

[A]

Oh, do I have a book for you, Paige. And I would. I was like, be like, to this day, my friend, my best friend Alex, my childhood best friend, love her. To this day, she still has the Duke and I. Oh, I gave it to her quietly.

[B]

Very secretive with my obsession. Like, we enjoyed them very differently. I didn't want anyone to know, but I grew up in like a staunch Christian household, so I was like.

[A]

It wasn't staunch and you grew up in the South.

[B]

I grew up in the south and I grew up in a Christian household. So it was just. I don't know, I assumed that I should not have been reading this, so I didn't let anybody in on it, like, not even my friends at school. So, yeah, I just.

[A]

No, I would want my. I don't think I want my daughter reading, frankly. I don't think I'd want my daughter reading smut at 12 and 13. That's a lot.

[B]

We are unique cases because it did not make us into absolute nymphos or something.

[A]

I don't know. I don't really know what the danger is. I just think that it was a little early. However, if I will say, I do think, I do think a romance novel is a safe place for sexual education.

[B]

I think so too. Like, my 12 year old daughter came to me and said that she wanted to read the Duke and I. I think I would let her. Honestly, only because I'd rather her. I would rather her. I don't know. Something feels, to your point, safer reading it than Watching it or asking a.

[A]

Friend about it, especially because they're nine times out of ten written by women.

[B]

Yes. So that, to me, that's just. That's more positive than her stumbling across the world.

[A]

It does feel more empower. Empowering.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And sexually positive.

[B]

I love it. And also, I was talking to one of our mutual friend Tati. I was talking to Tati about this. She got into reading romance novels because she just came across one that her mom was reading, and she read at a high level as a kid. So her mom was like, fine, you can read it. That's fine. Because she was an advanced reader already by that age, so it just made sense that you would allow her to read it. I'm like, you know what if I had the same situation with my child? Like, I had a reader for a child, I don't think I'd be like, not quite. You know, maybe not right now, but I'd want to know that she's reading them.

[A]

Yeah, no, no. I. So I think, you know, hats off to Smut. I'm a fan. I posted about reading Smut once, and I had a commenter be like, I'm unfollowing. Oh, a woman.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

She was like, I didn't like this.

[B]

I don't like that all.

[A]

And I was like, you do know I'm married. I think it's safe to assume that I'm constantly at risk for uti.

[B]

I wonder what this woman's background was.

[A]

Why did you. Why did you dislike that? What is.

[B]

I don't like.

[A]

Why are you upset?

[B]

That's wild.

[A]

Like, you didn't watch Fifty Shades of Gray.

[B]

That's why smut is so important. Sexual liberation. Liberation is on the other side of reading about.

[A]

Exactly. And that's the reason this is important. I don't. I think men are allowed to talk and joke about sex without rules, without limitation. And like, so then. And women. I don't feel like we have the same. I don't think we get to operate. I don't think in the past we've gotten to operate by the same rules. So this is us reclaiming it.

[B]

I would say, in conclusion, we love sex around here. Sex is good. Sex is important. It's healthy to have healthy sexual conversations about sexual. That it make any sense of drinking the wine?

[A]

No, that made sense.

[B]

I said it's important to have healthy sexual conversations around sex.

[A]

They are sexual conversations around sex.

[B]

I guess. So what we're trying to say is, sex is fine.

[A]

Sex is great.

[B]

Sex is great.

[A]

We love sex. Sex on the ground. Sex in the sky.

[B]

Sex on the back of the elf king. Sex all around.

[A]

Sex with the centaur. All of it.

[B]

Great.

[A]

Sex with a half man, half wolf, half elf. Not something about these books you're reading. And you're like, wait, what is he? Anyway, so then she fucked the ghost. And that's when I knew the chapter was over.

[B]

I read one of those and I was like, how did that work? But he became a man only during sex. Crazy. Can't make it up. Anyway, I'm gonna be baby. I picked it up out of sheer curiosity. I was like, how'd it work? Wait, what? It looks like you have a facelift because the hat is so tight.

[A]

He would give a man only for sex.

[B]

Only for sex. Arousal would spark his humanness. And then he would go back to his ghostly form.

[A]

Stop writing that.

[B]

It was crazy. I'll have to find the book. It was insane. Yep.

[A]

One thing I love about our friendship is that I'm married. Yeah, you are. A girl that is dating about town. And I love the way we talk about sex. And I still feel we're very, very sex positive. Even though I think. I mean, I don't think it's all that different. I'm not having sex with a centaur, to be fair. And you're having sex with a girl.

[B]

Who only takes human form during states of arousal. I'll find you the book, bitch. It's crazy. Insane. Keep going, keep going. So we're positive around here?

[A]

Yeah. No matter who you're having sex with, in what forms.

[B]

I wish you could see what you look like. Your head is so tight. It looks like you've gotten a facelift. So when you laugh, your face isn't moving.

[A]

Okay. I've had sex with the centaur, with ghost, demon, the elf king. Elf king? In the sky, on the ground, in the basement. It's great in the woods, which is how I got a uti.

[B]

It's messy business out there. Don't do that.

[A]

Anyway. But I do feel like our relationship is very sex positive. Even though I've been told before, like, so married. I've been told. I don't know if this is true.

[B]

Yeah. What is your take about being married? Sexual?

[A]

Well, I've been told, and I've heard this said, be it in books, tv, from one on one with other people. Married women hang out with married women. Single hang out women hang out with single women. This is like a stereotype that has been perpetuated by shows that I've watched by people that I'VE met. Right. I'm not saying that it's not true. I can see why that would happen. And I wonder why. Because frankly, when we talk about married women hang out with married women, single women hang out with single women.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are what we really are saying is women with similar sex lives can only relate to other women with similar sex lives.

[B]

Very interesting.

[A]

That's what I think is really interesting, because there is almost no difference between you and I, the things that we value and who we are. The biggest difference, I would say, is like. Like, I'm married and you're. You're dating.

[B]

Like monogamy.

[A]

Yeah. Monogamy.

[B]

Yeah. That's the difference.

[A]

And so. But I don't feel that that's true at all for us. In fact, I'm one of the only people out of my close friends that are currently married. And I've never felt isolated or like I'm living differently than my friends. Really. I'm not. And I remember when I. Right before I got married, I did get a little scared. Like, am I gonna become like the. The married friend? That's not part of the tea anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because this has been con. I've been conditioned to believe that I was gonna be kind of cast out from the fun girls group once I got married. And it made me realize how, like, sort of damaging those. Those. Those converse. That that narrative is.

[B]

Yeah. Especially for someone like you who values female relationships so much. Like, how terrifying it must have been to simultaneously be going into this really exciting and new chapter of your life, but also being like, shit, I may lose all my friends because of it.

[A]

But how weird. I don't know why I thought that, and I don't know why I was afraid of that. I have to believe it was sort of just conditioned to believe that. I would say I was conditioned to believe that, but I think that because.

[B]

Even when you think about, like, the jokes that married women you see make on television, like, oh, she's a little loose. We don't let her around our husbands only because she's single.

[A]

It's like, I guess you're right.

[B]

Why is that?

[A]

That's kind of weird. But we still talk about sex. I suppose it is, slightly.

[B]

No, I mean, now we'd be talking about sex.

[A]

We talk about sex, though, and it's not weird.

[B]

I would say. I don't think anything has changed. Honestly. The only thing that has changed is the frequency in which I now have sex. And now it's just. It is different how we relate to it, because you're you're having sex with one person, whereas I'm having sex with multiple people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like.

[A]

So you're out with the elf king, with ghost, with the demon.

[B]

Exactly, exactly.

[A]

Everybody with the same old leather pan.

[B]

With this bottle of baby powder.

[A]

Anyways, I'm back. Leather pants again. And it was great.

[B]

It was wonderful. But that's the only difference. Like, I would. I would honestly say full chest, that nothing has changed.

[A]

It's like, I got one dance move that works every time, and I pull it out on the dance floor, you whip it out, and you're still working on choreography.

[B]

She's still figuring it out. She's getting.

[A]

You're doing different choreography. You know, I'm like, anyway, yeah, we got the hustle down. All right, I'm gonna hustle.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I'm gonna go pee.

[B]

But, yeah, I think that's very important to note, especially as women and friends and relationships evolve and grow and all of that. Things don't have to change when your friends get married. I think it is a conscious decision on everyone's part to not let things change.

[A]

I agree. And like you, there's a choice that you make. Like, you don't stop inviting me to things or telling me things.

[B]

Even though I know you gonna say no, I still invite you.

[A]

I say yes.

[B]

You do?

[A]

What do I say no to? The leather and lace sex party?

[B]

You did say no to?

[A]

I did have to say no to the sex party.

[B]

I said, damn, don't send me in this one alone. I did have to go alone. I left early. Point being, we never stop inviting each other. And I don't want to make it seem like I'm like, even though you say no? Because that's not what I meant. It's more so. Even though we know because we're quick to say sure. We're not quick to say no to things, but we do like being in our house.

[A]

We do like being in the house.

[B]

But we also like to receive the invite.

[A]

You mean that orgy on 6th Street I couldn't go to last week? I was sad to miss it.

[B]

For all intents and purposes, that was a joke.

[A]

For legal reasons and for her mother, Lanita, watching.

[B]

Please, a joke not real.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's. I think that's really, really interesting, though, about, like. And I have the same fear about if and not if when I have kids. That's my new fear of, like, will we still get to talk about, like, can we still talk about, like, will we still have time to do this Sit on the couch and talk about sex and talk about life and talk about all these things. That's a fear of mine. But I want to believe that it's similar. I was afraid that when I got married this would change, and it didn't. And I want to believe I know things will be different one day when that happens. But we made a whole pregnancy pack, so we'll have to have kids at the same time.

[B]

I mean, for the sake of convenience. I'm like, if Taryn gets pregnant, I've got to follow suit. What am I supposed to do? Just not hang out with my best friend? What are we supposed to do? You know, go through different life cycles differently?

[A]

Secret life of an American teenager?

[B]

I mean, what do you want me to say?

[A]

What do you want me to do?

[B]

It is what it is. I'm just holding out for the day.

[A]

So, anyways, we want to hear from you. We want to hear from you. What do you think?

[B]

What do you think about all this? Deal with the elf king, ghostly apparitional sex?

[A]

No, what do you think about this? Do you feel that the conversations between, like, sex when you're married and sex when you're dating are all that different? What do you think? Do you. Do you find that if you are married or if you're single. So if you're single and your friend got married, or you're married and you're. Or you're married and your friends are single, do you feel less free to talk about these things together? I would hope not. Because I think it's really important to share when you're in a friend group. When we're your girls, we're your girls all the way, you don't have to share, but you have to feel like you're safe enough, that if there is something you need to unburden yourself with or talk about or compare notes with, with that, you can. That's what I wanted to say.

[B]

That's valid.

[A]

Go ahead. I thought you were gonna.

[B]

And I was. To add on to that, if you are in the position where your best friend has gotten married or is having children, what does it look like for you to consciously put in the effort to continue to have those same conversations? Is that hard for you? If it is hard, how do you get past it? If you're not doing it and you don't feel comfortable with that, what does that look like? Who are you now talking to about sex and sucking? And if not your best friend, Sorry.

[A]

Now we gotta end the podcast. At the end of the day, we're all doing it, whether you're. Regardless of your marital status. You switched to water.

[B]

I sure did.

[A]

She switched to water.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, let me switch back.

[A]

Don't give up.

[B]

Trivei Diva.

[A]

Can we also please explain? One thing that's gonna be heard in this podcast is some of me and Tiffany's favorite quotes. One thing we say all the time is travai diva. We were recently in Paris, and I taught Tiffany, I speak French and how to say work in French is travail or travail, je travail, which is work. And so Tiffany once asked me, like, how do you say like, okay, work, like in our slang, work girl. And I was like, oh, it's travail. So now we say travail diva diva, which translates to work diva.

[B]

And we have a whole repertoire of American slang sayings that women typically use that we now have translated into French that we will throw on you as the days go on.

[A]

So just buckle up and try to keep up. Trivei Diva.

[B]

Diva.

[A]

Well, thanks for being part of this week's episode. Talking about sex, baby. And next week, we talk all things moolah and money.

[B]

Bring your checkbooks, girls. It's about to get spicy.

[A]

Well, I'm out of wine, but thank you for joining us for this week on the couch. See you next week.

[B]

And remember, we're your girls.

[A]

Tribe Diva Diva is We're your girls. Hey.

[B]

Cause I like how you do. Warrior Girls is hosted and executive produced by Taryn Delaney Smith and Tiffany Singleton Management by social media, produced by Good Mess Media. Follow us on all platforms at warriorgirlspod.