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When the clock strikes dinner, think Stouffer's shop now for Family Favorites. Heads up to listeners. This episode contains graphic descriptions of violence. Please take care while listening in the summer of 2020. That first Covid summer, a few months after Talina went missing, before anyone had been arrested, a licensed realtor in Mena, Arkansas, gets a phone call. The person on the other end of the line is a woman eager to buy some land in the area. But not just any land, a specific parcel. Here's how she later described that call as read by a voice actor. When I answered the phone, she said, there was a piece of property she wanted to buy. The realtor looks up the property on her computer. It's a 4 acre plot of undeveloped forest in Arkansas. She asks the woman if she wanted to be shown the property. They could do a tour. And she said no, she'd already looked at it. She'd walked every step of it, and she just loved it. Weird, but okay. Then the woman says she's planning to live there, but the realtor can see from the plot's description that that might be difficult. And I said, you do understand there's no utilities, there's no water, no electric, nothing there. The woman is undeterred. And she said, well, I'm going to live there and I'm going to buy this piece of property, and I want to buy it today. A sale is a sale. So the realtor pulls up some forms and asks for the woman's information. She said her name was Deb Bombley or something like that. Her first name was Corey, but she said she didn't use that name. She used the name of Deb. Even though it's getting late in the day, the realtor prepares a contract for the sale of the property, and Corey signs it just after midnight. But the contract is rejected by the seller because of financing issues. The realtor updates Corey. I talked to her several times and we text back and forth because it was rejected. And she said she still wanted to buy it. And I asked her how she wanted to do that, and she said she was going to sell some stuff and just come pay cash for it. The realtor follows up to check on the progress of Corey's cash flow. I called her and I never got a reply. So that was the end. I just filed everything away. The property remains unsold. Seven months later, police will descend on this unassuming plot of land off a dead end logging road called Woody Lane. From I heart Podcasts. I'm Melissa Jeltson, and this is what happened to Talina Zara. We could solve what happened. We could fix it. Maybe the first thing that happened, she gets bad migraines. By then, we all had a suspicion that something bad had happened. We're armchair investigators over here, so we just didn't know something like that could have happened to Talina. He was like, I've been talking to Corey, trying to get her to tell me what happened. So what happened in a nutshell. And then Sherry told me the exact story of what had happened. If you suspected something like that happened, who would be the people you would suspect the most? All Of a sudden, boom. Marty's gone. No explanation. No, this is what happened. I don't know if she was willing to forgive him for whatever had happened or maybe he had paid her back. Oh, my God. This just certainly can't possibly be what happened. I come back in crying, and everybody's like, what happened? Episode 8 Horizon I want to take you back to this moment when Talina's body is found. It's the dead of winter in a forest in Arkansas, and a deputy is standing over a white box freezer. He opens the lid to find visible human remains. But standing just a few paces behind him is a woman watching all this unfold. She's the woman who found the freezer and called the police. She's also the woman who seven months earlier, saw a suspicious truck and trailer drive down Woody Lane and Park. At that time, she wrote down the license plate number of the truck on a small piece of paper. Even though it's been seven months, she still has it. The woman hands over the paper to investigators. Police run the plates, and they match Talina's truck, the 2007 Dodge Ram that Corey later sold for scrap metal. This small piece of paper is the evidence that Detective Joel Weber has been waiting for. With this new information, investigators began looking again at the data retrieved from Corey Bommeli's cellular phones on previous search warrants. They discover evidence from Corey's phone that she had been in the area of Arkansas where Tolina's body was found multiple times in June and July. And they also find out that the very day that Talina's truck was spotted parked on Woody Lane, Corey tried to buy that exact property. Investigators found that Corey bommily had been attempting to purchase the very plot of land where the body was found from a realtor in Mena just hours after she was seen there. The realtor advised Corey was adamant about purchasing the land. Corey refused to meet the realtor to tour the land, but stated she had already walked on every foot of the property and demanded that she be able to purchase it. Now able to connect Corey directly to Talina's body, Wagner detectives jump into action. They apply for an arrest warrant for murder. Corey is currently living in Wisconsin with her mom, Janet. So the Wagner cops coordinate with the Dane County Sheriff's Office in Wisconsin to track her down. On January 21, 2021, a week after Talena's body is discovered, a few squad cars are dispatched to Janet's home with no immediate sign of Corey. Police follow her mom as she goes about her day. We've recreated what happened based on police reports. Subject seen departing the Meadow Road address on two separate occasions. Sometime in the afternoon, Corey's mom leaves her house once more and drives her Chevy Equinox to a mechanic. Subject parked in the parking lot for a number of minutes before a second subject was observed walking towards the Equinox and getting into the front passenger side seat. Corey gets in the car with her mom behind the wheel. The decision was made to attempt a traffic stop in the appropriate location and take Bommily into custody on the aforementioned warrant. But arresting Corey isn't going to be so easy. At approximately 2:42pm I pulled behind the vehicle and activated my squad's emergency red and blue lights in an attempt to stop the vehicle. However, it did not stop. I don't know what the conversation was in the car between Corey and her mom, if she explained what was happening or pretended to be clueless or if they honestly didn't see the police car behind them, but they don't pull over. Corey's mom keeps driving. So a deputy puts on his siren and again the vehicle did not pull over. One of the detectives in another squad car speeds up and cuts in front of them. He did begin to brake slightly and it appeared as though the operator then saw my squad behind her and she immediately pulled to the right shoulder of the road and stopped. Gun drawn, the deputy approaches Corey's side of the car and tells her to step out of the vehicle. Bomily asked what am I under arrest for? And my response was murder charges out of Oklahoma. Corey also wants to know had they found her missing roommate's body. The next day, Wagner County District Attorney Jack Thorpe updates the public on Corey's arrest. I charged her with first degree murder of Tolena Galloway and we allege that those crimes did occur here in Wagner County, Oklahoma. Corey Bommeli is also charged with desecration of a corpse. She is presumed innocent of both of those charges and that presumption will remain throughout the duration of this investigation and prosecution up to and if she is proven guilty by proof beyond a reasonable doubt. It is very important for me to note to you this that this is still a very active investigation and it will remain so for some time after today. If you do have any information or you may know of someone that has some relation or know something about this case, please have that person contact the Wagner County Sheriff's Office. I would agree that I have never had a case involving these kinds of details. After her arrest for murder, Corey retains a lawyer, Janet Hudson, who defends her client in an interview with ktul, a television station out of Tulsa, Oklahoma. I think she's shocked. I think she's concerned. Anybody who's been charged with such a serious offense should be shocked and should be concerned. Corey's lawyer adds that she's worried about her client getting a fair trial. I realize there are going to be those that see this as sensational and frightening and have opinions, and I have to fight against that. Soon afterwards, Corey is extradited from Wisconsin to Wagner. A short video taken by a local reporter shows her in handcuffs being escorted by police into the station. She's walking with her head down, wearing jeans and a flannel shirt. Corey, what do you have to say about Talena's family? Corey says no, nothing. Doesn't even look back. More than four years later, as I write this episode in June 2025, Corey is still awaiting trial on these charges. The best AI assistant isn't one that knows the whole world. It's one that knows your world. A custom assistant built on WatsonX with IBM's granite models can leverage your trusted data, be easily trained on your workflow, and integrate with your apps. It can be tuned to do just what you need because the more AI knows about your world, the more it can help you do. Learn more@IBM.com Productivity IBM let's create this July 4th celebrate freedom from spills, stains and overpriced furniture with Anabe, the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. 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Addi is not for use in children, men or to enhance sexual performance. Your risk of severe low blood pressure and fainting is increased if you drink one to two standard alcoholic drinks. Close in time to your ADDI dose. Wait at least two hours after drinking before taking ADDI at bedtime. This risk increases if you take certain prescriptions, OTC or herbal medications or have liver problems and can happen when you take Addi without alcohol or other medicines. Do not take if you are allergic to any of Addi's ingredients. Allergic reaction may include hives, itching or trouble breathing. Sometimes serious sleepiness can occur. Common side effects include dizziness, nausea, tiredness, difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep and dry mouth. See full PI and medication guide including boxed morning@addie.com PI addy. Visit a D D Y I dot com to learn more about Addy. Get ready for July 4th with early savings at Lowe's. Get up to 40 off select major appliances and get an additional 10 off two or more select major appliances. These deals are coming in hot. Lowe's we help you Save valid to 7 9. Selection varies by location while supplies last. See lowe's.com for more details. Visit your nearby Lowe's on Colorado street in Kennewick. One day I was driving on the freeway riding in the freeway with my husband and we we passed a trailer that had a a freezer on it. The details of Talina's death. They'd be difficult for anyone to stomach here's Nicole, Talina's friend in Tennessee, who still feels the trauma long after receiving the news. And again, I just had a complete meltdown. I had to get him to pull over because I couldn't be next to that freezer on that trailer. Talina's friends have had a lot of time to ruminate on the events that occurred in the beginning of the pandemic. Here's Greg to, you know, basically murder her and chop her up and put. Put her somewhere where nobody would ever find her. It just like, how in the world can somebody even contemplate doing something? How evil can one person really be? Tolina was a good lady, and she did not deserve what happened to her. For me to be involved in this whole situation just blows my mind. And like I said, I live a really boring life here in Oklahoma. And me and my wife, we watch crime stories, but for us to live, you know, live in one, it's totally different. And it makes us not want to trust anybody. It makes us look at people a little bit differently now and be a little bit more untrusting about what they're saying or what they're telling us. And I don't want to be that type of person because I feel like I'm a person of faith. And I feel like I want to give everybody the opportunity to prove me wrong, you know, show me that they're bad. But, you know, through this Corey situation, I look at people a lot differently now. For Tallina's Oklahoma friends in particular, it's hard to wrap their heads around what Corey's been accused of. Within months of Corey settling into Wagner, she had woven herself into their worlds. Eating dinner in their homes and sharing beers around backyard fires. Was she manipulating them the whole time? Was she waiting for just the right opportunity to enrich herself or to pull off some long held devious fantasy? Neighbors are left re examining every moment with her, wondering if she exploited their goodwill. For Greg, it's the mattress frame he discarded for Corey that bothers him the most. Did his actions help Corey get away with murder? For a while at least. I look back on that and I'm like, oh, I just still at that point, didn't even have a clue of what was transpiring, what had happened. She was that comfortable around us and doing the things that she was doing under our noses. You know, what, what else is she capable of? Or what has she done in the past? No one ever really prepares you for this moment. There's no amount of training that can prepare you for how to feel or what to expect when. For eris, she can't stop thinking about this moment. A week after Talina went missing when she brought over sausage that talena had paid for. But Corey wouldn't take it. She looked at me and said, you guys should go ahead and take it. Our freezer is stuffed full of meat. I didn't find out about how she was found until, obviously, months, months, months, months after that interaction. But when I read the details of how her remains were found, I collapsed when I connected those two, that conversation and that information together. Because why would you say that? Certain stories from Corey's past also take on new meaning. Like the rumor she once worked at a coroner's office. Or how she told she cut up her horse. Here's Rachel, Talina's friend and fellow animal lover. She had this horse die and apparently had had this horse for years. Instead of calling somebody to come pick this animal up and. Or even finding somebody with a backhoe that could help her bury it, she cut it up like it was literally just a piece of meat. What? Who even knows how to do something like that? Whoever did cut up Talina's body appeared to have had practice. The Arkansas medical examiner who performed Talina's autopsy said in court documents that the dismemberment appeared to be almost expertly done. The incision points were so clean, so precise, that there was only one cut mark on a bone. No saw or chop marks at all. The medical examiner added that the way it was done required some knowledge of how joints are structured so that they could be cut around and the limbs removed. As far as the cause of Talina's death, the medical examiner found that she died from blunt force trauma to the skull. Because of the lack of injuries, and on the rest of her body, he believed she was killed before she had a chance to defend herself. What do I think happened? Like my theory. In the years since Corey's arrest, Jess, our Internet sleuth in minnesota, has had plenty of time to refine her theory of what exactly happened to Talina czar. I asked her to lay it out from start to finish. Her best guess? Based on the research she's done and the people she's talked to, I think tlena found out that Corey had either opened a credit card in her name or had used one without her permission. And then once the pandemic hit, Talina was no longer traveling for work, and she was home looking at the bills. And that's when she found it. And I think she confronted Corey and told her she had to leave. But I think Corey also played to Tylena's feelings. And what was like, I have nowhere to go. Give me some time. After speaking to her ex husbands, I learned that Corey was all about waiting on end times of sorts. And I think she believed that that was coming. When Covid hit, she thought, this is it. And that's when everything started to spiral. The mayor today calling the spread unpredictable. And this morning, a grim new prediction. Get intubated, they die. The cycle repeats. In that when Corey started planning her murder, I think she either poisoned her over time to make her weak or slipped something into her food or drink that night to make her extra sleepy. She was going to lay down for a while and said that she would chat with her later. And once Talina was completely out, Corey probably hit her in the back of the head. I think she started cutting her up in the bathtub in the master bedroom because it was big. And then I think after that, she moved her into the garage and finished there because that's where the freezer was and it was closest. When we got to the kitchen, we noticed the freezer was not there. I think she then racked up Talina in garbage bags and put her in the freezer and waited. Eventually, she brought the freezer and the white trailer over to Billy's and plugged it in to keep the body frozen. We drove by and saw an orange extension cord going into the back of this trailer. Well, that's weird. And then when she went to the interview with Weber, he asked her about the trailer, and she freaked out. And that's why she sold it and rented the U Haul. They said there was some sort of travel trailer in the driveway. Oh, a white cargo trailer. Yeah. It sold. She took the truck, hitched up the rented trailer with the freezer, and drove to Arkansas to the remote property she'd been looking at buying. And she said, well, I want to buy it today. After she returned, she scrapped the truck and tried to tie up loose ends. But the truck was in too good of shape to actually scrap, so it raised some alarms. As for the motive, Corey had nothing. She had no job, no money, no car. The car she was Even driving, the G6, belonged to Talina. So doing things as an executor before we know she's dead is presumptuous. And she realized she'd been caught, and she started scrambling. And there's really nothing else. Jess has had little doubt about Corey's guilt pretty much from the beginning. But today, she is still unsure if Corey acted alone. And if Marty was involved in any way, she even shared these concerns with the district attorney. I get the number for Jack Thorpe, and I put Rosie on three way on conference. And I said, will you just mute yourself and just be there, like, emotionally, just. Just so I know somebody else is there and I can remember what's said later on. Like, I'm really upset. And I said, I think Marty helped. I literally told him. I. I'm positive in my mind that he had something to do with all of this. Jess mentioned that she'd been communicating with Marty regularly throughout this whole time. She had a lot of material that could potentially be useful. I shared an album with him on Facebook. I think the same one that I shared with you, because he wanted all of our screenshots put two and two together. Still, after their call, Jess was left with the distinct feeling that the DA Disapproved of how much she'd inserted herself into the case. He was kind of scolding me. I mean, he made me feel. I'm sure he's really good at his job. I'm not saying. He's not saying. His bedside manner, maybe isn't that cool? He made me feel like I was responsible for something, that I'm not the police. I'm not. I'm some girl just on the Internet. And I didn't know. I didn't know what I had until afterwards. Since Corey's arrest for Talina's murder, she's also been charged with attempted murder in Wisconsin, accused of trying to fatally poison her former neighbors Sherry and Mike Ziegler, using homemade ricin. We came home to stuff kitty litter or broken Sheetrock material scattered throughout our house, especially on my side of the bed and in my underwear drawer. This was very personal, and I felt particularly scared. It's unclear why, but prosecutors decided Corey should face charges in Wisconsin first before standing trial for Tolena's murder. The Ryson trial has been delayed for years, but finally it's scheduled to take place in June 2025, just a week after this episode airs. I'll be attending, and I'll update you all from Wisconsin. Still, there's no trial date set for the murder of Talina. Her loved ones are waiting, clinging to the hope that a murder trial will bring long overdue answers about what really happened in the confusing, chaotic early days of the pandemic. There's no question that Covid hindered the efforts of the official investigation, made it harder to see people behind their masks. Isolation, fear, distraction. These were unprecedented challenges in a World gone mad for a while. And maybe that's exactly what the perpetrator was hoping for. Talina's family worries that the more time passes, the harder it may get to prosecute the case. That memories, evidence could be lost to the winds of time. There's the typical process of this. There's the murder, the investigation. Hopefully, you know, somebody is found, you know, and arrested, you know, and the family, you know, they bury their loved one, and then two, three years down the road, there's a trial, as typical. Correct. That is not our case. Over many conversations, Talina's sister Cheryl told me that her family was struggling with the fact that Talina's body wasn't yet cremated. According to her wishes, they were unable to give her a final resting place. We do not blame authorities. What happened was they determined that they needed her body. This case is more circumstantial than evidence wise. Because of the frame, she went missing. The body wasn't found for several months, badly decomposed in a freezer. And so they said, we need to keep the body. We haven't moved beyond the initial trauma. It's just that when I woke up today, she is in peaceless in a freezer with my mom. And we woke up today, she's in pieces in the freezer. When we woke up yesterday, she was in pieces in the freezer. And when we wake up tomorrow, she will be in pieces in a freezer. And that's our reality. We accept that this doesn't mean it's easy. In fact, it's gotten harder. Our biggest source of pain, in a lot of ways, is how much pain my mom is in. Her horrific grief that my poor mom, she is in worst pain for her entire exist is the worst pain anyone could ever feel. And we can't do anything to console her. And we know that for many years after Tolena's murder, her family did not speak openly about what happened. I have worked at my place of work for 18 years. I know many people. I worked with them for years. And until about a year ago, a year ago, for the very first time, I uttered the words to someone outside the family, my sister was murdered. It took me that long to be able to say those words to someone else. Chantelle, she said, you know, mom, I can't. I've never even talked about this until she said a couple of months ago, her good friend, she said she was telling me about some mystery things she'd seen on tv, a Dateline type of thing, you know. And she said, my aunt was Murdered the first time she had uttered those words. And all of this time, my oldest daughter, Cherie, she has never, ever said anything outside the family people. And my youngest daughter, Chelsea, her too. I know my mom outside of us, because she has a small church group, so of course, you know, the news got there, but outside of that, no, nobody. We haven't been able to even say it outside of our own, in our own worlds. It is so raw and painful because of where we're trapped. Agreeing to do this podcast has meant that Cheryl has been able to talk more openly about Talina, to me, to the world, but also to her family and those long overdue clothes. Conversations seem like the next step in a healing process. We haven't lost sight. We have the horizon. We are still looking at the horizon. We know these days will come ahead, these times will come. We will be able to gather, lay flowers and remember my mom. Her biggest fear that she expresses as she says, I don't want her to be forgotten. And I know she says that because there is not a gathering place of remembrance yet for her. And for some reason in her, she fears that her daughter will just be forgotten. I'm just really grateful that you decided to do this for Talena. Not for me, but for her. Everybody's gonna know, hopefully. And I think they need to. When you tell people about this whole thing, like, how do you explain it to people, like what you were involved in? I usually tell people I helped solve a murder because I do feel like the effort that I put forth along with, you know, Nicole and all the people I talked to did help catch Corey. Granted, I didn't arrest her or build a case that I could take to court. I don't take any credit for that. And anybody with half a brain knows that a civilian can do that. But I do say that I contributed to it because I truly feel like I did. The best AI assistant isn't one that knows the whole world. It's one that knows your world. A custom assistant built on WatsonX with IBM's granite models can leverage your trusted data, be easily trained on your workflows, and integrate with your apps. It can be tuned to do just what you need. Because the more AI knows about your world, the more it can help you do. Learn more@IBM.com Productivity IBM let's create this July 4th celebrate freedom from spills, stains and overpriced furniture with Anabe, the only machine washable sofa inside and out where designer quality meets budget friendly pricing. Sofas start at just $699, making it the perfect time to upgrade your space. Annabe's pet friendly stain resistant and interchangeable slipcovers are made with high performance fabric that's built for real life. You'll love the Cloud like comfort of hypoallergenic high resilience foam that never needs fluffing and a durable steel frame that stands the test of time with modular pieces you can rearrange anytime. It's a sofa that adapts to your Life. Now through July 4th, get up to 60% off site wide@washablesofas.com Every order comes with a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. If you're not in love, send it back for a full refund. No return shipping, no restocking fees. Every penny back. Declare independence from dirty outdated furniture. Shop now@washablesofas.com Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply. Hi, it's Jenny Garth. We all know the importance of taking care of our physical and mental health, but what about our sexual health? I've been there feeling totally stuck when it comes to my libido. That's why I started taking Addi and let me tell you, I have seen firsthand what a difference it can make in how you feel. Addi is the only FDA approved pill clinically proven to help certain premenopausal women have more interest in in sex, have more satisfying sex and lower the stress from low libido. ADDI has helped hundreds of thousands of women get their drive back, including me. Talk to your doctor or visit a d d y I.com to learn more about Addy the Little Pink Pill. Individual results may vary. Addi or Flibanserin is for premenopausal women with acquired Generalized Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder. HSDD who have not had problems with low sexual desire in the past who have had low sexual desire. No matter the type of sexual activity, the sit the sexual partner, this low sexual desire is troubling to them and is not due to a medical or mental health problem, problems in the relationship or medicine or other drug use. ADDI is not for use in children, men or to enhance sexual performance. Your risk of severe low blood pressure and fainting is increased if you drink one to two standard alcoholic drinks close in time to your ADI dose. Wait at least two hours after drinking before taking ADDI at bedtime. This risk increases if you take certain prescriptions, OTC or herbal medications or have liver problems and can happen when you take ADDI without alcohol or other medicines. Do not take if you are allergic to any of Addi's ingredients. Allergic reaction may include hives, itching or trouble breathing. Sometimes serious sleepiness can occur. Common side side effects include dizziness, nausea, tiredness, difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep, and dry mouth. See full PI and medication guide including boxed morning@addie.com PI addi. Visit a D D Y I dot com to learn more about Addy. Get ready for July 4th with early savings at Lowe's. Get up to 40 off select major appliances and get an additional 10 off two or more select major appliances. These deals are coming in hot. Lowe's we help you save valid through 7 9. Selection varies by location while supplies last. See lowe's.com for more details. Visit your nearby Lowe's on Colorado street in Kennewick. Jess is proud of the work she and the online sleuth did to bring Talina's case to a close. The true extent of how much they helped the investigation and any ways they may have unintentionally hindered it will likely come to light when Corey finally goes to trial in Oklahoma. Jess will be right in the middle of that, too. It's still early days, but the defense has indicated it plans to subpoena Jess as a witness. In a court document, Corey's lawyer wrote that Jess would be expected to testify about documents she provided to the police and the DA and conversations she had with Nicole Marty, Corey's ex, Alec Adams, and other Wagner folk like Eris and Greg. Jess would also be asked to testify about, quote, any credentials she possesses regarding a homicide investigation. I do at this point feel like I'm almost a Corey expert. I mean, when you stalk somebody essentially for almost five years, you know them. I feel like I know who she is. My obsession might be a problem. This might be a problem. This might be an issue. A true crime obsession coupled with the isolation of early Covid is what got Jess and the online sleuths started down this path. But as time passed, Rosie, Brittany and the others moved on, their real lives taking over the virtual ones they had created. I found out that I was actually pregnant, so I remember I messaged them. I was like, hey guys, I don't know how much help I'm going to be. I'm going to have to take a step back a little bit. But I still follow all the updates and stuff all the time and I'll message her and ask her about stuff. Slowly, as time has gone on and this is sort of become less of a forefront in our lives. You know, we went from talking hours a day with each Other to less and less and less. For Jess, this case, this calling, only became more central to her identity. The obsession grew, shifted focus. These days, the narrative Jess tells herself about what happened to Talina Czar is less of a whodunit and more of an epic tale of good versus evil. And what did you learn about yourself during this process, this five year process? I've learned a lot about myself. Some of it not so endearing. Keep thinking about how I lied and these people are gonna think I'm a bad person. I think the biggest thing I learned is that my sense of right and wrong is very black and white. I don't have much of a gray area anymore. I'm even lumping myself in with the bad guys for being a. A liar. In this version of Jess's story, she's uneasy about some of the things she did in her search for the truth. But ultimately the ends justify the means. She took on a villain and won. Any regrets you have about getting involved? No, I think the only thing I would have done differently is I would have gone straight to Oklahoma. I think I would have just driven there and help look for and confront Corey literally head on. I feel like, and I'm not saying I could, I just A feeling that I had is that I could have, like provoked her enough to get angry and say she did it. I would have sat outside her house harassing her. Literally just sat there and stared at her house until she came out and blew up. And I could have got her in trouble for something. That's my only regret is that I didn't travel there. I don't regret this at all. I don't think I ever will. Talina's murder trial is still very far off. First, Corey must stand trial for attempted murder in Wisconsin. And Jess will be there, of course. She is now friends with Sherry Ziegler and will be staying at her house, the house where Ryson was found. While she attends Corey's trial. Jess is eagerly anticipating the moment when she finally gets to see Corey in person, in handcuffs, being held to account. It would just be interesting to see how she acted in the courtroom. And I could see her testify if she will. I read a couple books on reading body language, and I'm by no means an expert. I read some books, but I feel like I could pick up something on her. I just wanna. I'd have to know. I feel like it's a need. It's not even a want. It's like I need it. You're looking at me like I might Be crazy. Jess and Corey, their fates forever intertwined. Jess is convinced that Corey's got more to hide. That beyond Sherry Ziegler and Talina Zar, there might be other victims in other states, other bodies in remote forests. Who's gonna dig up that history if not her? I think there's so much more to Corey and so many more crimes. It feels like this isn't going to be over for years. I'd really love to just once she's convicted, sit down and be like, just tell me. Just tell me, what else did you do so we can all stop wondering. Because I don't think this is ever going to be over for me. I know Corey's done more just from knowing who she is. I. I know she's done more. So you're not gonna put it down? I don't think I can. I don't know if I want to. Is that. A few weeks before the Wisconsin trial was scheduled to begin, I got a series of text messages from Cheryl, Talena's sister. After years of waiting, Talina's body had been cremated and her ashes sent back to her family in a box. Cheryl purchased a special urn, white with purple butterflies, just Talina's style, and sent it to her mother. When it arrived, Talina's mother placed the ashes into the urn by herself, alone in her apartment. She said it was her role to lay Talina to rest. Cheryl sent me a photo, and I have to admit, admit, when I received this image, I was hit with an overwhelming sense of relief. I have felt for Talena's family, particularly Talina's mother, and how difficult it was not to have a place of memorial for her. I'm glad that they at least got that, even as they await answers on what happened to Talina during her final days. You can't see this photo, but I want to describe it to you. At the top of a bookshelf, Talina's urn sits between two framed photographs. On the right, a picture of Talina's brother as an infant. On the left, a photo of Talina and Cheryl as toddlers, dressed in matching white sweaters and matching bangs, smiling at the camera, looking very much like twins. On this top shelf, the family is together. Thank you for listening to what happened to Talina Zar. Although this is our last full episode, we will be releasing bonus episodes from the Wisconsin trial and beyond, so make sure you're subscribed. 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