Sarah Sherman

Summary

What's Our Podcast? with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney

Episode: Sarah Sherman (June 10, 2026)
Host: Headgum
Guest: Sarah Sherman (SNL Cast Member, Comedian, “Live and in the Flesh”)

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Episode Overview

This episode features comedian and SNL cast member Sarah Sherman, aka "Sarah Squirm," joining Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney. As with every installment, Beck and Kyle continue their quest to figure out what “what’s our podcast?” is meant to be, inviting Sarah to suggest a direction. The episode launches into all things SNL, the stress-drenched realities behind the scenes, comedy horror influences, and ultimately, Sarah's pitch for the show turns the latter half into an energetic (and potty-mouthed) ode to chips.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Patreon and Show Format (00:13-03:19)

• Beck and Kyle announce the launch of their Patreon, outlining different reward tiers:
  • $5/month: Bonus episodes, extended catch-ups between Beck and Kyle.
  • $10/month: Listeners can pitch episode ideas for the guys to try out, plus access to their Discord, exclusive "silly" video sketches.
  • $15/month: Everything above + free access to their live streamed events, a collectible headshot for yearly subscribers.
• Tone: Playfully chaotic, full of classic Beck-and-Kyle riffs and mutual ribbing, with comments about experimenting and "not really knowing" what the podcast actually is.

2. Improvised Bits & Meta Humor (03:19-09:01)

• The hosts riff on tangents, like the etymology of "horseshit" and holding salons to debate words and their origins.
• Closest the show gets to structure: intentionally straying from it, highlighting the playful uncertainty of the podcast's identity.
• Quote:
  • Kyle: “That’s the beauty and the sort of tragedy of when you’re sort of making it up. It’s like this could be something unforgettable. This could be amazing. Or this could be…” (05:00)

3. Introducing Sarah Sherman (14:37-17:32)

• Sarah is lauded for her “artist” status and her ability to merge her specific comedic voice with SNL’s mainstream platform.
• They relish Sarah’s unique style and how she’s brought “her voice” to SNL, staying true to herself on a show not always known for that.
• Discussion of the viral Good One podcast quote, where Sarah noted Beck’s reputation as “the nicest SNL cast member,” which Beck sheepishly clarifies is simply her perspective.

4. SNL Fashion, Rebellion, and Von Dutch’s Dark History (22:22-31:05)

• Sarah discusses being told to “be beautiful” and questions of personal versus designer style at SNL.
• Anecdote: She wore a Von Dutch hat (promotional gift after Weekend Update). After learning the brand founder’s antisemitic last words, she jokes about her “100 Nazi hats,” offering a darkly comic take on cultural baggage and reclamation.
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Sarah: “But like, it’s a free, crunchy hat. I’m gonna wear this hat.” (30:31)
  • Kyle: “If anyone needs 100 Nazi hats…” (31:25)
  • Sarah: “I guess I like free crap.” (31:46)

5. SNL Behind-the-Scenes—Pressure, Anxiety, and Triumphs (34:03-56:19)

• Sarah’s special “Live and in the Flesh” analyzed as “nightmarish, visceral, and artistic.”
• Gore memories and childhood trauma: Extended discussion on core/gore memories that shaped Sarah’s (and the hosts’) taste—whether it’s spaghetti-haunted-house tricks, real-life worms, or being tricked into eating weird things as kids.
• SNL Anxiety:
  • Sarah and the hosts share the omnipresent fear of being fired and the stress of writing nights.
  • The grind and psychological challenges of SNL: obsessively comparing dress rehearsal and live show, feeling unappreciated by the pace of the show despite public acclaim, living with TMJ and physical effects of the job.
• Quotes:
  • Sarah: “I have a face disorder. I’m so tightly wound and stressed out that my jaw muscles are in fight or flight every waking and sleeping moment of my life.” (55:50)
  • Beck: “You still want that acknowledgment. And, like, it feels so good.” (56:27)
  • Kyle (on why leaving SNL was hard to watch): “It felt triggering in some way.” (53:59)

6. Comedy Horror, Childhood Terrors, Core Memories (75:11-76:34)

• Sarah, Beck, and Kyle nostalgically recount formative “gore” moments:
  • Sarah: Watching her father bludgeon a half-eaten, still-living fish on a boat—a recurring nightmare. (73:03)
  • Her grandmother’s prank glass eye.
  • Influence of Garbage Pail Kids, Pee Wee Herman, B52s, Ren and Stimpy, and the “Large Marge” scene in Pee Wee’s Big Adventure.
  • Childhood exposure to horror films like “Children of the Corn” and “Return to Oz” as defining, scarring moments.
• Memorable Quote (Sarah, on her special):
  • “I wanna make something that feels new on your eyes. Or are people so desensitized from AI slop that their eyes don’t feel anything anymore?” (41:36)

7. Sarah’s Podcast Pitch: "Chips" (78:23-90:43)

• Sarah’s answer to the podcast dilemma? Make the show about chips—even turning it briefly into “The Chips Podcast.” Lighthearted, raucous, and wonderfully dumb.
• Discussed: Favorite chip types; core “chip memories” (Sarah’s is diarrhea-inducing Lay’s BBQ chips at a childhood sprinkler park); the infamous Olestra anal leakage scare; favorite brands (Zapps Voodoo, Ruffles All Dressed, Dirty, Kettle Chips, Cheetos, Cheese Doodles, Funyuns); distinction between potato chips and tortilla chips; etiquette and hygiene of snack foods in writers’ rooms.
• Quotes:
  • Sarah: “I’ve related barbecue chips to diarrhea my whole life.” (83:24)
  • Kyle: “We’re just chipping away at who we are and who we will be.” (101:59)
  • Sarah: “Writers have poop hands and they touch all the food.” (97:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On SNL and Creative Stress:
  • Sarah: “My stress dreams are about Writing Night...I’m knocking on every door and the hallway is getting longer...and people are like, ‘We don’t want to work with you…’” (65:51)
• On Rejection/Validation:
  • Beck: “You still want that acknowledgment...and you don’t get it necessarily there because everyone else has something to focus on.” (56:31)
• On Comedy’s Dark Edge:
  • Sarah: “It’s called slop because it’s disposable. It’s like, you could see it, never think about it again. It’s slop. It’s crap. But I also resent that they took the word slop—a word that I love.” (42:13)
• On Childhood Gore Memories:
  • Sarah: “My dad reels in half of a fish. It’s flopping around the boat, and blood is spraying everywhere. So my dad gets a knife and is stabbing it, stabbing it, stabbing it, and it won’t die.” (72:57)
• Chip Power Rankings (99:26+)
  • Sarah’s Top Chips: Zapps Voodoo, Ruffles All Dressed (Canada-only), any salt & vinegar, Turtle Chips (Korean, multi-layered corn), Lay’s Ketchup (Canadian), Bjorn Corn.
• Wildest Exchange:
  • Sarah (recalling her Weekend Update hat saga): “Now I have 100 Nazi hats.” (30:49)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Content | |-------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:13–03:19 | Patreon tiers and playful show introduction | | 14:37–17:13 | Sarah Sherman introduction, SNL praise | | 22:22–31:05 | Fashion at SNL, Von Dutch controversy | | 32:31–35:28 | Sarah’s comedic approach, crossing lines, Jewish identity bits | | 41:00–43:36 | Artistry, gore memories, AI “slop,” DIY effects | | 55:50–57:06 | The stress and validation cycle of SNL | | 73:03–74:03 | Sarah’s ultimate childhood "core gore" memory (the half fish) | | 78:23–90:43 | “Chips” podcast: chip lore, favorite brands, bodily consequences | | 99:25–101:49| Sarah’s chip power rankings and additional favorite snacks |

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Tone and Style

• Loose, playful, absurd, with a current of vulnerable realness (especially about SNL anxiety).
• Language and rapport remain improvisational and highly comedic, especially when drifting into bodily or dark humor.
• Sarah’s presence amplifies the show's willingness to get strange, honest, and more than a little gross—in classic Squirm style.

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Summary Takeaways

• For SNL and comedy fans: This is a goldmine of inside baseball about the stress, creative terror, and validation cycles at SNL, as well as the strange bonding rituals and memory banks formed by years in the comedy trenches.
• For those unfamiliar with Sarah Sherman: She’s as idiosyncratic and fearless offstage as on, and her penchant for mingling body horror with heartfelt goofiness comes through in every story.
• For anyone else: You’ll encounter a surprising, semi-serious debate about potato vs. tortilla chips, the trauma of public anal leakage, and the empowering reclamation of bad hats... as only this trio could give you.

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Closing Thoughts

Sarah Sherman shines as a unique, vulnerable, and uproarious guest—her pitch for a chips-based podcast perfectly capturing the show’s spirit: part meta-podcast, part non-stop riff, part sincere celebration of weirdness in comedy and life.

Transcript

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This is a Headgun podcast.

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Wow. Yay.

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Another episode of what's our Podcast. But first, a little special announcement from Becky and Kyle.

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This is very big. This is.

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It's very huge and big.

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I think this is life changing for me.

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Yeah.

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That's the way I feel.

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As long as it goes well.

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Well, even if it doesn't, it is altering my life.

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Yeah, it already has.

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The big announcement is we are starting a patreon.

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Yes. You're saying to yourself, oh, yes, it was.

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You know, it was a risk. It was a swing to even start a podcast together back.

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Yes, it was.

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We didn't know what it is. We still are finding out what it is every single week when we come together with our guests. And when you and I sort of

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mess around on the microphone, let's tell them what it is. For the first tier, Rocco, Basic tier.

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It's five bucks a month. You're gonna get a bonus episode every week. No guest. Okay. It's just Beck and I doing what we've been doing Since September of 2003 when we first met each other.

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For that tier, we have slopping out, which is just the two of us hanging out.

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It's like our intro to our show.

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Yeah. But it's longer. We can go into bits longer.

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We can also be earnest. Learn about each other's lives.

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Yes. Catch up for longer. Or we also have what's yous Podcast, where we take ideas from our Patreon members.

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Yes.

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At a certain tier, at the $10 tier, which is the next tier. We take your ideas and we try that podcast out. Right, but you can pitch those ideas at the $10 tier.

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Yes. Once you get to the $10 tier, premium rock, which we're calling Rocco Premium.

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Rocco Premium.

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That's where you actually get to pitch the ideas that we will do on our podcast. You're also gonna get access to an exclusive chat. A chat room.

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Yes.

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The Discord. The Rocco Discord, where you can talk with other fans, other listeners. Probably kind of do your own little bits. Make some friends. Maybe. Maybe you can grab. Grab dinner or coffee with one of them sometime.

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Also with the $10 tier, you get access to. You get to see our. What we're calling our sillies. Yes.

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These are little videos. You know, we came up making videos together. Full circle. Because now you and I are just gonna make a little video we already started. Get a little iPhone, make a little video, play some characters, do some bits.

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Just come up with an idea and pop it right off and just shoot it.

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Yeah. We don't need to labor over it.

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Yeah, exactly. We just kind of have fun and pump it out to our Rocco's. You know what I mean?

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I know exactly what you mean. I love it.

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Yes.

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For 15 bucks, you get all that stuff, plus you get free access to our new ticketed live stream. So, like, we will talk to you directly. You can ask us questions. We'll be doing these quarterly throughout the year.

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We might do poppers there. We don't know yet. It's only going to be legal stuff, but we're going to have fun to do poppers. Yes. And here's the thing for Rocket supreme, if you sign up for a full year, you'll get a side headshot of me and Kyle. We don't know, but it's going to be an amazing family heirloom that you get and you can, you know, frame it and put above the fireplace or something or something like that.

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It is really going to be fun. I think it's going to be a place to see some really weird, wild and crazy stuff where we just get

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to do whatever we want without really caring. So. Yeah. So go to patreon.com what's our podcast and join today, please.

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That's patreon.com what's our Podcast? And be in the Rocco Club with all your fellow Roccos.

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What's our podcast? What's it gonna be all about? Tell us what's our podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? Feeling fine. What's on my mind? I'm getting dressed for a brand new week I got a brand new shirt I'm gonna put on my bod Gonna

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look in the mirror and do this

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little, little dance Honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk.

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Once I started, like, getting into a melody of a. The honk honk thing, I felt like I was on a. I'm trying to say this without offending night.

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Don't. Don't worry about that.

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Okay. I felt like I was, like, doing an outtake from, like, some, like, web series or TV show circa 2009. Like, honk, honk, honk, honk. I don't know. Why does that make. Is that making any sense?

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I mean, it doesn't need to to me, as long as it makes sense to you. Like, I, I.

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Well, I don't want to just be saying, like, smoking.

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Is it because it was like, what is this bit that we're doing? What is this song? And it's just like, kind of like Stretching, you know, it's not really working.

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Yeah, maybe, maybe in the moment I just felt self conscious.

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Cuz. What I was feeling self conscious too. And I was just thinking like, like it started out really great, but I had no idea where it was.

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That's the be. That's the, the beauty and the sort of tragedy of when you're sort of making it up. It's like this could be something unforgettable. This could be amazing. Or this could be.

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Exactly. Which is.

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Crashes down.

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Right. Which is what we're doing here with what's our podcast. The podcast where we don't know what our podcast is about.

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Hosted by Beck Bennett, of course.

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Oh, I thought you said the horse. Beck Bennett the horse and Kyle Mooney the frog.

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Yeah, well, that would be, you know, we would have to have, you know, different sort of precautions set up here in terms of a cleanliness and the, the hygiene of the studio. Because a horse running around. I'm just thinking about. Because they're eating hay.

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Yes. And they are. They go to the bathroom whenever they want. They don't, like, they don't go to the bathroom. They go to the bathroom everywhere.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's where. I believe that's where the phrase horseshit comes from.

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Yes. From their, from the shit that they shit.

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And I believe it's an old wise tale of like.

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It's an old wise horse would poo

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and the, the farmers and the villagers would refer to it as horseshit, as I recall.

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Yes. And they would, you know, if there was a lot of horseshit, they would

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be like, that's so much horseshit.

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Angry or something. Yeah. Right. And they'd be like, look at all that horseshit. And they'd be like, we need to clean this up.

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And they had to come with. Yes. And I believe it's in the, I believe it's in these scrolls that they've been referring to that I believe somebody just found.

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I saw this on. Yeah. Online. They were just unearthed. Yes.

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And the first scrolls where they discovered that when they labeled it horseshit.

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Yes.

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That was the first time that anyone had noticed. Oh, it's actually, it's not, it's just, it's not. It's the poo from the horse.

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Right.

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It's very,

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it's very interesting.

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It's a very. And it's, it's interesting to see how I feel like it's evolved and like, it's like sort of new perspectives on it.

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But yeah, it's, it's, it's kind of.

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I Think you still run into people who call it horse shit.

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Yeah, it's with some of the documents that came out with all the UFO docs, documents from Congress, I believe.

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Yes.

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And they were like, we've known all along about the origin of horseshit. And. Yes, they know.

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They knew that. It is just. That's exactly right.

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Yes.

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I believe that Senator Billowsworth actually was one of the only people to cross over and say this.

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Yeah.

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Was that. He's like, we can now confirm that the word horse.

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Yes.

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Is another. Is another phrase for horses that comes

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out of the horse's butt.

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Yes.

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Yes. And which is. It's great that this public is getting to learn about all this.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But it's like.

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It's a distraction. It's a distraction from what's going on in the world and what our governments do.

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Some people, I think, are sort of like, is this something we. We need to know? Like, some people are like, is this

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horseshit something that we need to know?

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Yes.

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Right. And it's like.

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It's an interesting discussion.

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It gets your mind thinking a little bit.

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It is. It is. It is absolutely that. And it's an interesting. It's a very interesting discussion. And I. And it is something that some of my friends that I do talk about.

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Yeah. That's so cool to hear that you and your friends talk about that, because I've been talking to my dad about it just like, a little bit. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Just sort of, like.

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Sort of trying to feel out where he stands on the whole. Like, what does worship mean?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because we're with. Me and my friends hold salons.

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You hold salons? Like, sort of the old.

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It's a monthly salon, and we sort of discuss topics like this.

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A salon? No, that's like a. That's just a gathering of people to talk about. Sort of like a brain trust in

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a way, like the intellectuals of the community, and we discuss and.

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Yeah, yeah, I'm having a salon.

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My friend Garrett, actually.

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Oh, really?

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Had a very interesting thought the other day that I'm still thinking about.

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He's kind of. He's controversial a little bit, from what I've heard. Yeah, yeah.

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He's. What do they call those type of thinkers?

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Edgelord or.

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Yes, he's an Edge lord.

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It's amazing. Well, I'm so glad we could talk about here on our podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do.

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You got something you want to tell me? No, you get off your chest.

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No, it's just that this is what's our podcast? And you know, we exist.

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Oh, yeah.

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In that zone of.

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Oh, yeah, that's right. And we were just talking about our Patreon, which will be recording a Patreon after this. After we are. We have an amazing guest today who's going to come pitch their idea for what our podcast should be, which is. But our Patreon. Www.patreon.com. what's our podcast? We're still doing it.

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We're still doing the Patreon. I got to say, I love all the Roccos there. I mean, like, I've. I've. We've interacted with a couple of you guys. You guys are amazing. We're live stream soon.

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We're going to live stream.

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I don't know.

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Yeah. I wonder if this will come out after the live stream.

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Probably.

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That'll be a really exciting way to interact with the. With our listeners, our Rockos.

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It's gonna be the first of its kind. It's never been done before.

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I have some ideas for it that I would love to talk to you about.

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I say go for it.

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Do we do it now or do you wanna do it later?

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No, no, I don't wanna hear about it. I say just do it.

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Okay, Well, I can kind of also. I gotta figure it out with Rochelle, too.

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No, no, I would love to hear it.

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I don't know if you're gonna shout out to Richelle. She's our director, producer, Shout out.

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Rachelle, entertainment extraordinaire, our smiler.

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And I know I have never seen you not smile.

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It brightens my day. It brightens everybody's day.

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Now, what are you working on over there? I see you got a lot of gadgets.

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Yeah.

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Making sure you guys sound good.

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Thank you. Thank you. Wow, that's amazing.

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Always talking about that techy stuff. I'm like, okay, Rochelle, whatever that means.

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Yeah. Start speaking my language. Yeah. Which is a muggaccino, magacino sandwich stuff.

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And how are you?

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Oh, I am good. It's been a while since we've been in the old room.

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I like everything you're doing. The mustache with the polo.

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Thank you. Yeah. For the listeners. I have a mustache right now. I have a new polo. Yeah.

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Blue. I'm going to call these reddish stripes.

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Yeah. Well, definitely just red.

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Okay.

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I would think.

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Okay.

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I mean, I don't know, because it's kind of perception, I guess.

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Yeah. Yeah. I would say some thinner style stripes, some thicker styles.

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Yeah.

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About almost. Almost nine stripes in total from what I'm seeing.

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Let's count them out. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Wow.

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So just about nine.

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Three pairs of three. Really good, Kyle. And I love what you're doing. You've got a nice blue color palette on today. You've got your blue jeans. You've got a sort of a grayish, almost blue shirt, tears for fear shirt with some royal blue text and some teal color on the face.

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You know what? I didn't know what to wear. It's hot out there today.

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It's so hot. And it smells like smoke.

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Yeah, that's sad.

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Yeah, it's sad. But we shall prevail. The city of Los Angeles will not be stopped.

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I love that.

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Mm. We can change the world.

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Oh, no. Beck's trying to reignite a.

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He's.

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He's trying to trigger something for me.

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Yeah.

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It's just something between the two of us. Yeah.

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And the three of us.

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And the three of us. Yes.

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Not and the three.

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No, no, no, no. But you know, as well as the three. Maybe we'll talk about on the live stream.

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You know, I went to a bachelor party this past weekend.

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Yes. Your brother's bachelor party.

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Yep. Know, we had a great time, but, you know, there's recovery that comes with that.

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Absolutely. I haven't had a. Oof.

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Oh, man. You know what I had yet last night?

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Some sort of food or a drink. That drink?

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Yes.

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A food drink.

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No.

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You had a margarita.

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No.

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You had. Is it. Was it an alcoholic drink?

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No.

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You had a smoothie?

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No.

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You had a root beer float.

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I did have smoothie. Over the course of the day?

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Yeah.

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No.

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Is it sweet?

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Yes.

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A milkshake?

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No, I had a pina colada. I had a marijuana infused drink.

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Amazing. How did it feel?

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I think I had bad dreams.

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Interesting, because we usually told me you

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don't get the dreams.

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Yeah. When I. When I take cannabis. Yeah. I don't have dreams. Really?

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Is it. Is it possible that, like, my brain just became obsessed with the idea that I had consumed this thing more so than, like, the consumption of it?

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I think so, yeah. Did you feel high before you went to bed?

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I felt a little. Well, I'll say. And maybe I'll tell our guests. Maybe I won't. Like I was watching something they worked on and I was feeling like, oh, this is feeling a little trippy.

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Yes. Well, maybe it was the weed, maybe it wasn't. But this does feel like. I want to talk more about that with you, but I do feel like we could transition into. Segue into our guest.

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Sure.

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So our guest today.

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I had a nightmare, by the way. Sorry. Just to talk about my bad dream.

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Yeah. What was it?

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It was all about I couldn't find a specific sweater. Like. Like, I had to have, like, a photo taken or something like that. And I was like, no, where's the white sweater? Or something like that.

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I hate that. Those anxiety dreams where you just can't find the thing.

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And you know what? I think. I think I'm starting. I think I'm. I'm anxious about you. And I have a thing coming up where we have to look.

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Look grand, glamorous. Oh, you were looking for your sweater. You were looking. You don't know what to wear for that.

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Well, I. Yeah, I think it all. Yes. I think there's something happening there. It all ties in.

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Yeah. And that's normal. It's okay.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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Sorry, go ahead. I interrupted you.

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Our incredible guest today is Sarah Sherman. God, I love her.

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Squirm.

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Yes. Sarah.

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She actively said she loves you.

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Yes, she did.

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Which we have to talk about.

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We gotta talk about. I. Yeah, that blew my mind, her talking about me.

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Yes. And so there was a clip where an interview where Sarah was asked what was the.

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It was kind of like, around, like, the 50th was anyone you wanted.

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You always wanted to meet SNL or something like that.

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Yeah.

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And then she said something to the effect of, like, I had heard that Beck was the nicest guy.

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Yeah.

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And then I met him. And it's true.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Is the gist of it.

[A]

And. Yeah. Yeah. And it, like, made it. You know, I think it was rephrased in certain ways or whatever where it was like, I'm the most beloved cast member or something like that. And it was really just talking about her experience. Right. So this has maybe we should say,

[B]

SNL cast, which is not true.

[A]

It was, you know, rephrase as like,

[B]

a person and performer or one or

[A]

the other person, more so, like, interesting.

[B]

But I shared a lot of intimate time with you, and you are beloved

[A]

by a lot of people. Oh, thank you. I don't know if it's true is the thing, but I also don't want to discount Sarah's our guest.

[B]

Well, yes, Sarah.

[A]

Because it was also, like, around the time right after I left, and I was the only one who left, so I was the only one that people were missing. Sure, sure, sure. That's right.

[B]

And people. Of course. Absolutely. Everybody missed you. And with. Why wouldn't they?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You were so joyous to be around,

[A]

and you're joyous I remember you.

[B]

I remember you. I remember you saying live from New York and how. How like the crowd went wild.

[A]

I mean, I just put a little. I put my.

[B]

Put a little extra pepper on.

[A]

I put my pepper on it. Yeah. Pepper on my back. Pepper on it and rubbed it all around.

[B]

Sarah is an accomplished comedian, stand up SNL cast member. Recently released her special Live and In the Flesh.

[A]

Incredible special. That artist. Artist, I would say absolute artist. Kind of like a. Kind of like a little bit of. She's got a lot of influences. Pee Wee Herman being one of them.

[B]

We'll have to get into all of that.

[A]

Yeah. She's so funny, so kind. I mean, like, her stuff on snl, the way that she's. We'll say it in front of her. The way that she's been able to put her specific voice. Voice into that show is so impressive and make it funny and stay true to herself and make it work for that show is amazing. She's just a joy and can't wait to talk to her.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Here she comes.

[B]

Is she here?

[A]

You probably hear her pitter, patter, pitter.

[B]

You can hear an eyeball falling to the ground.

[A]

Exactly. Some skin falling off and sagging to the floor. That's Sarah.

[B]

Let's go ahead and do the podcast.

[A]

Let's go ahead and do it. Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Okay, I want to hear it.

[A]

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[B]

I see.

[A]

Because they're. They've upset me.

[B]

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[A]

It did. Were you. Can you do an impression of how you were surprised? Like your reaction in the moment? Okay. Kyle's looking.

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That is exactly how I was.

[B]

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But without the price tag. Lightweight, breathable, comfortable, and built to actually last. Like, to me, when I open up my Fabletics, I'm like, well, that actually feels like. That feels more like premium wear, brand style.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. And it's. It's what I. It's one of what I love most about the versatile pieces is, is how they behave throughout the day. And I. I can wear them for a workout while traveling, running errands, doing jumping jacks, or sort of like parkour.

[B]

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[A]

I do parkour. Yeah. And Fabletics has been the, like, one of the only clothes that can keep up with my parkour. But I'm a shorts guy. I'm a shorts guy, so, yeah, I've been wearing my Fabletic shorts.

[B]

Those seem. Those don't seem related.

[A]

Parkour and the jumping roof to roof

[B]

and the short stuff.

[A]

Oh, well, some parkour guys are not shorts guys. They're pants guys. Yeah. But they are part of my summer uniform. Now the shorts.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah. Thank you.

[B]

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[B]

I thought I was Beck Bennett.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[B]

It's always Kyle Mooney.

[A]

Yes, sorry about that. Exactly. No, all good. All good.

[B]

Thanks, buddy. Yeah.

[A]

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It's just all, well, it's like, oh, do I need to go to like a. Do I need another type of website to like, find the right pictures or to like another type of website to upload?

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You know, it's all in one place.

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[B]

Oh, let's come up with a domain right now. Let's see. I wonder if it exists.

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[B]

Okay, so now we're on the record. Sarah said a very nice thing and I like it when people say nice things. She said the sweatshirt is sort of in tribute to me. Is that accurate?

[C]

I told. What did I tell you? In voice message this morning? I said, I feel like roadkill.

[A]

Yeah, you feel like roadkill.

[C]

I feel like roadkill with one arm and one leg.

[A]

Yes. You look fantastic.

[B]

Because I wore my body parts.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And what I was saying is that I definitely rocked that gear. But at one point I had a talking to that was like, you actually got to stop dressing like that, Kyle. And you, Sarah, you have become. You are just crushing it with your style. Do what? I mean, has anyone ever had a conversation with you to be like, you actually have to tone it down a

[A]

bit, then that would be insane.

[C]

I do get the, like, be beautiful. The please be beautiful thing.

[A]

Yeah, that's what they want.

[C]

Right. But it's also like, what am I going to do?

[B]

Right?

[A]

You're like, sorry, I'll just be sexy. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[C]

I'M so yeah, I walked in here looking like a sexy elf. According to me. Yeah, yeah. But I. I also did get the, like, what about designer clothes? And I go, who gonna pay for that? Sure, right, right.

[B]

Oh, right, right, right,

[A]

right.

[B]

Design. Oh, man. I have a flashy mondalio, a nice 3 gram mondalio. Frankie Mondolio, a little dicky.

[A]

Just a toe shoes.

[C]

I'm an Amanucci socks. You know, we got The Gucci. Gucci 3000 up here. And then I'm wearing Von Dutch. And yeah, we looked it up guy. His last letter that he ever wrote on his deathbed was like, I hate all. I don't want to live in a world where Jews have the same rights as me. Heil Hitler.

[A]

Oh my God. And she's wearing the Dutch. She's taking it back. Vaughn would be rolling in his dirty little anti Semitic Nazi grave.

[C]

Heil Hitler. Bye.

[A]

Jesus Christ. When was this?

[C]

Like, what do you have, Google?

[A]

Let's get the Google going. Fire that puppy.

[C]

And I kind of. What? So basically this is what happened. I wore a Von Dutch hat on Weekend Update. We all remember, right?

[B]

Well.

[A]

Oh, that's the big.

[B]

That's the segment, the fake news segment.

[A]

And a lot of people don't know this, but the. The desk is not actually. It gets brought in and out.

[C]

It gets brought in and out.

[A]

It's not actually a part of the show.

[B]

And by the way, when they bring

[C]

the desk in and out, the screaming move.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I remember when they were doing cheating. Get out of the way.

[B]

Do you remember when they were doing the, like, Jost does the jokes for Che and Che does.

[C]

Yes, yes, ma'. Am.

[B]

Did you write those?

[C]

Yeah, that was me. That was me. Not many people know this. And not many people know this when I'm writing that SNL typewriter.

[A]

Oh, that is so cool. I will say, that is so retro.

[B]

People used to say that to me, like anything weird on the show. Like, I bet you were behind that, right? I was like, I'm not in it.

[C]

Yeah, but it must.

[A]

You must have cooked that up.

[B]

That was pretty weird. That's that Kyle vibe. I was like, why would I write a scandal?

[C]

What were you effing smoking when you wrote David Pumpkin? What was your ass? I'm by the way, sweating.

[B]

Can we do anything?

[C]

I can take my sweater off that

[B]

I wore for you, by the way. It is such a lovely sweater.

[A]

It really is.

[C]

That's the problem with la.

[A]

I know. It really is. You go anywhere I like. I would like to be wearing a tank top and shorts right now.

[C]

But.

[A]

But I'm not comfortable showing that much of my body on the podcast.

[C]

I put on a tank top yesterday, and the. The thought. And we're not doing body talk. This is not me fit. I'm not fishing.

[A]

No, no.

[C]

I put on a tank top, like, thinking that I was gonna wear that. I was like,

[A]

you didn't like it? You said,

[C]

what is this, a porno show?

[A]

Yeah. I think you're saying that you put

[B]

on a TikTok last with it on.

[C]

Well, it was like I was in a fitting. Ooh, okay.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[C]

Making eye contact with every camera she's working.

[B]

Oh, I wonder. You know what I think? I wonder if. If it's a fitting for a thing that we'll be at together.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

Oh, is that.

[C]

Are you gonna be there? Are you gonna be there?

[A]

Yes, we both. Yes.

[B]

Well, I think you're gonna. Might be converging.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

This is. I mean, I didn't see that.

[A]

I didn't. It was not. It was not related to us. Kyle's manager relayed this.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Wonder who?

[A]

Well, I don't know.

[C]

Maybe not manager.

[B]

Could be we share the same manager.

[A]

Oh, he's telling Kyle stuff that he's not.

[B]

It was actually my manager's assistant, the great Molly.

[A]

The great Molly.

[C]

Molly who basically, I would die and live for every day of my life. I die for Molly.

[A]

That's so sweet.

[B]

She's the best.

[C]

See, this is hot. This was hot. It came off my body hot.

[A]

Yeah, it's really hot.

[C]

Maybe I'll put Touch it.

[A]

Is that. And now. Now we got. I love.

[B]

I love this collar.

[A]

So your shirt underneath.

[C]

I knew. Oh, yeah, my shirt underneath.

[B]

I had. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Shut up and suck it.

[A]

Yes. Sort of like. Sort of like. Well, then I think that makes sense, right? You're wet. It says suck it. Sort of a grandma on top and sort of like a Rascal display.

[C]

So it's like I wore. See, I wore it for Kyle.

[B]

Thank you, Sarah. Beautiful.

[A]

Okay, so wait, so Von Dutch.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Do we.

[C]

Oh, oh, oh.

[B]

So you wrote an update.

[C]

I wore an update. And they were like, we are sending you a box of 100 hats. And I was like, oh, my effing God, I love these effing hats.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then, by the way, me, don't forget to show love. I'm coming to work going. You know, you get a hat rare. Everybody's getting hat. Jack Bensinger, at one point, my friend who's writing on the show now he's wearing one hat like this. One hat like this.

[B]

You're a custodian in your special.

[C]

Who played a custodian in my special? Yeah, that's right. If you're friends with me, you're eating. He's wearing the two hats. We're laughing. Two hats.

[B]

We're all.

[A]

Everyone's wearing hats.

[C]

And then I see him look at his phone kind of, and I see his face fall and he kind of slowly takes off the hat and I'm like, what'd you find? Are you looking at the letter?

[A]

Oh, boy.

[C]

It's basically even worse than what I said because I actually couldn't even bear to say what was written.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And apparently there's a documentary about what he's.

[A]

About his letter and about the whole thing. About the whole thing.

[C]

Well, I'm kind of going, listen, it's a great hat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Can't deny the hat. He is talking about me, right? I hate Jews.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So then I can wear the hat.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Uh huh. I mean, yeah, you're always allowed to wear the hat. Right.

[C]

But like, it's a free, crunchy. I'm gonna wear this hat.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

Right.

[A]

When did he say this, though? Because, like, it was a long time ago. It doesn't matter.

[C]

He died in 92.

[A]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[C]

But he did sign off with highly Hitler.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So bye.

[B]

I feel like the pies are how they get you.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

Sorry. Did he. Do we know how he passed?

[C]

Alcoholism related.

[B]

All right, so he could have been wasted.

[A]

Yeah, maybe he was. Maybe it was like a bad joke.

[C]

Bye.

[A]

I'm just kind of like fascinated by, like, you're, you're, Are you more excited to wear the hat now? Once you learn that and you're like this. I'm gonna do it. It's fun.

[C]

Then everyone office starts taking their hats off.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

And I'm like, well, now I have. So I had like a hundred hats and then I gave them all away.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Out of the kindness of my heart. Because I'm basically like a saint.

[A]

Absolutely. You really are.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

You're a giver.

[C]

Yeah. And people, you know, they're saying in the street. And so then I had like five hats. And then I think when the decision, when it's like, oh, I have five Nazi hats, it's like, you know what? I don't have to wear this. But then everyone starts giving the hats back. Now I have 100 Nazi hats.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's like, I have to wear it.

[A]

Yeah. I have to wear the Nazi hats.

[B]

You have to wear it.

[A]

I can't get rid of these. I can't burn them. I have to put them on my head and wear the label behind or in front of the. The Heil Hitler guy.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So it. And you've held on to these hundreds.

[C]

I have all the hats, and they're just my hats. If someone. Hey, if you want to send me 100 hats, I will wear it.

[B]

That's interesting, because I thought you were gonna go the other way. I thought it was gonna be like, if anyone needs 100.

[C]

Right, right. I could give you 100 Nazi hats.

[B]

That's exciting to know who's listening to our podcast who is, like, acting, desiring the Nazi hats.

[C]

Right. I don't want to give people who are listening to your podcast the ability to send me something to my mailbox.

[A]

I mean, unless you want that.

[B]

I can't. Yeah. Where do you fall on that?

[C]

I guess I like free crap.

[A]

Like, free crap. Yeah. Free crap is good.

[C]

I'm tired from laughing.

[A]

I. Wait, so when I met you, you were talking about. I think you were talking about. You're like. It was at the 50th. I think you were like, why isn't Louis CK here?

[B]

I was going like this.

[A]

Yeah. You're like, can we just. Isn't it enough? Can we just. But like. And now you're talking about the Von Dutch out wearing. That was, you know, created by this Nazi guy.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I feel like. Like, now where's the line? Well, I. I feel like you. There is no line. But which. But not in a bad way. I mean, in a. In a way where you're like, who gives a shit? Like, I feel. I feel like you talk about this stuff in a way where I haven't seen other people talk about, you know, the line that upsets people. You're kind of like, who cares?

[C]

But it's not that I'm not thinking about it. Like, I'm wearing the ha. Like, shouldn't be wearing this hat.

[A]

Right.

[C]

The good hat, though.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And it's my hat.

[A]

Yeah. You know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not going to let those things

[B]

I will say to.

[A]

You're free.

[B]

And I do think that if you weren't Jewish, I think it would be a fully different category.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Right, Right, right, right, right, right. If I didn't make the weather, then it would be a completely different story.

[A]

Jewish Joe, Jewish joke. Oh, that's not. Is that. That's. People think that was a good recent conspiracy theory. Right.

[C]

That's old as time. One time someone Asked me in Ohio if there. If I had piles of money in my basement.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Because I was Jewish and was this,

[A]

like, after a show.

[C]

This was after a show. I did get on stage and say I was Jewish at the same show. And someone yelled, auschwitz.

[B]

Well, okay.

[C]

So then I'm kind of like. I kind of like the hat.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

I don't always follow the hat logic, but I actually support you with every part of. Every part of me supports you. So, like, you could sort of say that's. And that's why I wear the hat. Don't always know.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Can I ask you a question about. About shows, because. Oh, thank you.

[C]

Shows or movies?

[B]

No, about your shows.

[C]

Oh, about my shows. Yeah.

[B]

Because if you haven't seen Sarah's special, which is called Sarah Squirm, Alive.

[C]

Close. No way.

[A]

Live and in the flesh, but alive

[B]

and in the alive and in the. Alive and in the.

[C]

Well, alive at the bottom of the world.

[B]

Sarah Squirm. Live and in the flesh. I feel like I had it right.

[C]

You did.

[A]

You did yourself.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I'm adjusting my shorts because I'm wearing them, like, sweating on the couch.

[A]

Oh, my God. I also like this, like, huge.

[B]

I consider you a friend. Sorry. And also, anything we can do to make you more comfortable. Do you wanna.

[C]

No, I walked.

[A]

I just imagine there being this. Speaking of Kyle's special, I just imagine there being a huge sweat scene, but it's like a little goblin's face. It's like, what the is in your pants?

[B]

I think the special. I mean, I feel like I've known you a few years and I knew you a little bit before we worked together at snl. And I think the special does such a great job. What I feel like all your work has led up to.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

I think, like, it's pretty incredible that because I've. And I've heard you speak about marrying stand up with visual art and like, feels like that became sort of the. The main concept, the thesis, the thing that you want to accomplish. Right. And I feel like you got to. You did it and you crushed it.

[A]

Yeah, you did. It's so funny. But also just to. Just to piggyback on that, like, it did, like, more. I laughed a lot, but I was also left with, like, visceral images in my body. Like, you know, in the way that art affects you in a way where you're like, huh, that did something to me.

[C]

I don't feel good.

[A]

I don't feel good.

[B]

I will say, like, it is. It's like I was Thinking like. You know, the phrase nightmarish is actually thr. Too late. Yeah, but I was thinking, like, because I was watching. I finished it last night, and forgive me for being a little late on it.

[C]

No, please.

[B]

But I was like, my daughter was asleep only a few feet away. I was like, if she walked in here, she would have nightmares. And that was. What? Something.

[A]

Especially at the end.

[C]

Damn it. Right?

[A]

I mean, that's how I. I told you I came up with the term.

[B]

Yes, the end.

[C]

The. Oh, I can't wait.

[B]

The. The.

[A]

The. The hangnail imagery is, like, made that with wax.

[C]

That's wax, girl. That's wax and a piece of glue. Pull.

[A]

Oh, my God. It. For people who haven't seen it, it's. You end the special and. Sorry if I interrupted. I interrupt you.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. I do want to get some more.

[A]

You end the special with blood splatter images. You're like, where did the blood splatter come from? And then you show where the blood splatter came from. And one of them is like a hangnail where you're ripping the hangnail off of the skin is coming out of the wax.

[C]

I put it on my finger with a little hot glue, like ribbon, and just go like that.

[B]

And for me, it's the, like, extended lips and stuff that I'm like,

[A]

me. I love that. The. The lip stuff. I'm not scared at all about it. I'm not scared about that stuff at all. But, like. But seeing that, I was like. I was like, oh, it really got me. I was like, I feel like that's a core. Like a core memory. And then I was like, I think that's a gore memory. That's good gore memory for me. That'll be like. And then I. And then it made me want to ask you about your gore memories, your core core memory. But, like, I feel like. Kyle, I was just. I was.

[B]

I never got to. I never got to the point. But we got core memories.

[A]

I'm pinning that.

[B]

So I'm sure you're actually asked this all the time, so forgive me. I really don't like asking no basic ass things. No, but.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

There must be people who are coming to see, like, somebody from Saturday Night Live.

[C]

Half. Half.

[B]

And so do you get to hear their reaction after the fact? Like, what is that dialogue?

[C]

It is awesome. So I get a lot of walkouts, especially, like, at that end of the show. It's this, like, long, noisy thing. So it's like, people are like, well, I can leave.

[A]

Yeah, this is like, I don't need

[C]

to be here for this. So I get a lot of walk. But I find because a lot of SNL people, they'll skew older, you know, as we know, because snl, that's playing on that TV in the hospital.

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[C]

That's who's watching it. And they'll skew older. And also front row at, the Front row at the comedy club is usually more expensive ticket than back row.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So that's also going to skew older.

[B]

I feel like even in the, in the special there, there are a couple folks towards the front that you're like, oh, I'm interested. Like, yes. Are they squirm heads or they're SNL heads. Yeah.

[C]

And so I, I see the reaction of the front row more clearly or whatever. And it's usually people high at ticket, higher ticket price. SNL fans and the old older audience members are, they're like, I, I will get like old people.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And they've been alive for so long that the best part of the show is them being like. I can see it dawn on them that they've been around for so long and they've seen so much, but nothing quite like this. And they're actually quite, Their interest has piqued.

[B]

That's cool. That is cool.

[C]

And they've seen a lot of crap in their life and they've been around. I have much respect for older folk.

[A]

Older folk.

[C]

And so it's just like, they're like, you know, I've been my grandma, like, I did a show in Miami. My grandma lives in Boca. She brought her friends. They're all like, my grandma had a viewing party at her house in her retirement community for watching the special. Like, I like, and I like SNL audiences because we have the built in fandom of people who are like fanatic, super psycho fans of SNL and they just, they want to be there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Because they like paid money. They worked all day at the nurse factory. They're like, they're, you know, and it's

[A]

like, it's this, this, this thing that they've watched on TV and they get to see one of the cast members doing their thing. Right. Like 10ft away from them.

[C]

And so when it's not what they expected, they're like, it's, it's more fun to give some, someone like a ride than it is for, like, I don't like, I'll do a bunch of shows in Brooklyn. People like, meh, you know, like, they're more jaded.

[A]

Yeah. It was cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And without snl, I worry. I don't know who. Who would have taken me seriously. Like, you know, I'm doing. You know, I'm showing, like, a exploded butthole. People would have been like, what is. Who is this woman?

[A]

Right. But with the SNL stamp on it. You're like, oh, I guess. Comedy brilliant. That is so cool that you're giving these people, though. I mean, you're giving everybody something they've never seen before.

[C]

Yeah, but this is what I was with Gore Memory, what you guys were talking about, what was interesting to me when I was making this. You guys are. By the way, this is the first time I've spoken all day.

[A]

Really?

[C]

How am I doing?

[B]

You're doing great.

[A]

I think it all sounds great, but we can't. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's all.

[B]

Rochelle's got the cancer. How's it sounding over there?

[C]

Like, AI start, like. Because I shot this last August. And that's kind of when, like, everyone was like, AI is making images we've never seen before.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And it was like. So I get worried sometimes about, like, we're in image society, where, like, the image is flat. We all see, like, heinous war crimes and AI slop all day, every day that it's like, I think people's, like, eyeballs are literally desensitized. So this was like. I'm like, I wanna make something that it feels new on your eyes.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

Or it's like, are people so, like, desensitized from AI slop that their eyes don't feel anything anymore? And I think actually making things, like, more. I'm about to. I'm doing, like, my grad school dissertation right now.

[A]

Yeah. This is.

[C]

It's like, I think when things are, like, feel handmade and, like, lovingly made or something, it's like, I was hoping that. That, you know, it still felt shocking when nothing feels shocking anymore.

[A]

Yeah. Because the AI stuff that is generated is so, like, soft.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

You know what I mean? There's, like this, like. Like this fakeness on it that is never really that startling. And you kind of go like, oh, I'm being lied to. That's, like, made up.

[C]

And I think it's. The visual slop thing is so interesting because it's, like. It's called slop because it's disposable. It's like, you could see it. Never think about it again. It's slop. It's crap.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But I also resent that they took the word slop a word That I love.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, we love it too.

[C]

Slop.

[B]

This is like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's sort of like the classic sort of burger style sandwich.

[A]

Right? Right.

[C]

Loose burger.

[B]

Like I don't even know. I don't know how to articul this. But yeah, when you're saying like you're hand making these things, it's interesting because. And it's. I guess you could say this about practical effects generally or something like that. You can see that there's an artistry behind it. Right. And like, even with those effects, you're talking about the hangnail, it's like you know in your head that it's fake.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

But it's still, it still is disturbing. And that is the awesome. That is the magic thing is that like, even though I can tell there's manipulation happening here, whatever it is is still fucking me up. And that is really cool. And that speaks to like what you did and what you made.

[C]

That's like the uncanny valley ness of it. It's like, I know that this is yarn and clay, which makes it scarier or something. Cause you're like imbuing all this like, you know, actual. You're animating things that are inanimate in a way that. Which is why Kyle, I love Y2K. The practical effects in Y2K have that same effect of like it's handmade, practical, throwback 80s fun crap.

[A]

Yeah. And I think it's more. Yeah, it's more unsettling for all the reasons we just said. It's like, it's just, it's real.

[B]

I wonder, like, do you have a gore memory? Because like you're making me think that like it's such a simple trick. But the like I was probably in second or third grade. I'm just having this moment right now, going in the fifth grade class, put together a haunted house and putting your hand in guts. But it's like cold spaghetti. That's so gross.

[A]

Yeah, that's really, that's, that's really nice.

[C]

I did a show in Chicago once where I had people. And this was, this is what makes me think that like, if I didn't have snl, Lord knows what I would have been doing. But I did a show in Chicago where I blindfolded someone and had them do that kind of haunted house on stage. But one of the buckets was like hundreds of live worms and they were just like crushing them and killing them.

[A]

Oh God.

[C]

And I, Everyone was like. And then I took their blindfold off and they were like, you made me Murder, like hundreds of.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

Did you feel bad? Were you like, oh, sorry.

[C]

And then I was like, oh, yeah, shoot.

[A]

And then somebody shoot.

[B]

But it was funny as hell.

[C]

It wasn't at all. Someone in the audience was like, it's good. Those were invasive species.

[A]

Okay, wait, Worms. Worms are so important for our soil.

[B]

While I was listening. Forgive me, I did a little research. I was listening to you on Marin, talking about. I imagine this is in Chicago. You had a bit where you were just pulling out your pubic hairs and passing them out until somebody was like, you don't need to use your own pubic hairs. Didn't even occur to me.

[C]

Didn't even, like, legitimately. It doesn't occur until, like, all of a sudden you're left holding the bag of pubes and you're like, right, well,

[B]

this is like a Von Dutch hat situation. Everybody's handing their pubes my pubes.

[A]

I got so many pubes. I gotta go him out.

[C]

Look at this crazy bruise, by the way.

[A]

Oh, that's a nice one. How'd you get that?

[C]

Streeter.

[A]

What, did he just punch you? Streeter Sydal. Snl. Streeter Sidel.

[C]

He wrote a sketch. We were on a boat and I had to do like a. I had to like, fall off the side of the boat.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So it was like the edge of the boat and then the crash pad was like. I felt maybe one inch for the stunt. Yeah, yeah, felt.

[B]

Fuck.

[A]

That was just the crash pad.

[C]

I was like. Because, like, basically.

[A]

Or like your thigh need to hit the side of the boat to go over the boat. Kyle recently had to do a stunt like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You rolled onto a crossbrow.

[B]

I had to, like, back up into a chair was the big thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But then you're right.

[A]

You rolled over me.

[B]

Yeah, that's right.

[C]

Did it hurt?

[B]

I fucked up my wrist.

[A]

See, it's. It's. It's hard. Stunts are scary.

[C]

Stunts are scary. And also, like, they happen so fast that snl. Because they're like, we have four minutes to get this. So I'm like, got it.

[A]

Yeah. They're like, are you going to be able to. Are you professional? Can we count on you to make it happen?

[C]

And I'm like, sir, yes, sir.

[B]

Right, well, have you found yourself. There's. I mean, yeah. There really is so much to talk about.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Have you found. Because, like, some of your pieces. Yeah. Do require, like, these added components. Have you ever gotten over, like, during a dress or anything like that? Yes, like, yeah, whatever.

[C]

Yes. Yes. Badly.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Like Even, like, something that on air, it was like Sandler was like. The whole thing was like I was someone who, like, I don't know, and I don't remember what draft ended up making it to air, but it was like I marked something wrong on a piece of paper and the doctor removed the wrong organ or something. That was the sketch. And then Sandra, like, Sandler, wakes up and starts spraying everyone with intestine blood. But then, like, Richie, didn't we change. We cut the sketch so much that the cue changed for air. So he. Richie, shout out. That's my work crush, by the way.

[A]

That makes sense. That's right on brand.

[C]

And we'll talk often about all my work crushes.

[A]

Great.

[C]

He. Well, inside, behind the actor's studio. That's my work crush. He's the special effects guy. And so he hit the blood cue a little late because we changed the cue and didn't tell him. And so I'm standing there waiting for Sandler to spray me in the face of blood. I'm just kind of going like.

[A]

And it is. It is the camera on you. Like, you're just like, yeah. Not getting sprayed.

[C]

Like, you think in your head, like, dude, if I'm ever, like, left holding the bag on live, like, I'll be able to riff and make something.

[A]

Absolutely. Make it, like, do a little Keenan. Like a little. Like a little look or something.

[B]

No, ma'.

[C]

Am.

[A]

No, ma'. Am. No, no, no. You can't practice that.

[C]

Nope. And then, like, you wake up the next day thinking of, like, all the funny things you could have said.

[A]

I know, I know. Yes. Lying in bed at, like, 12pm when you wake up on Sunday. God, I could have done that.

[C]

No one, like, knows what it feels like. No one knows the feeling.

[A]

And it's really impossible to really relate it. You know what I mean? Like, there's just so many ingredients that stack up. So when you try to explain how it's hard or crazy feeling, people are like, doesn't sound that bad.

[B]

No.

[C]

And literally, you. My. My thing that I have to stop, get off stage. Whatever happened, good, bad, whatever. I will watch, dress, watch air, compare, like, basically frame by frame.

[B]

Wait, sorry, when?

[A]

So, like, after, after, like, after live?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You'll compare the two and be like,

[C]

like, like the finale. I made Jack, like, everyone's like, let's. Yay. We finished.

[B]

Woohoo.

[C]

We did the last sketch of the whole season. Let's go to the party. Yeah, we're at the party. I forced Jack into a corner to watch on his Phone frame by frame to make sure it was funny to watch the sketch. Which sketch Live and dress.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

To compare on his phone in the corner of the party.

[B]

Like you just wanted to see his reaction.

[C]

I was like, like to make sure. I was like, was it as. Was it good? Like it. Was it good?

[A]

Kyle. Kyle has talked about that, like the feeling of like it did well at dress and then it goes to air and maybe it didn't get the same reaction. And he talks about being like that. That hard feeling of like you can't help but take responsibility.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think be like, I did something wrong.

[B]

Oh yeah. I didn't, I didn't put enough gas on that one line.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Or whatever. I definitely like mid. Mid to late, like towards the end of my time there. Stopped watching the live.

[C]

I should stop.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

It's so the feeling of like after the show is the craziest feeling. And I don't get how people.

[B]

Oh man. Yeah. Or just like, that's why.

[C]

Woo hoo.

[A]

Yeah, I know, I know. Because it never, it can never really stack up to what you have in your mind.

[C]

Right. You know, and the differences between dress and air feel so different to you, but they're not.

[A]

No, they're not. They're not. Is there something that. That fulfilled that expectation on air? Like meatballs.

[C]

Yeah, well, pre tapes.

[A]

Pre tapes. You're sitting there and you can watch it and enjoy it with the audience.

[C]

And it's like edited and it's not live.

[A]

Right. You're not executing it on the spot and like obsessed with whether you're doing

[C]

it right or not. And like the last, the last sketch that we. That I was agonizing over. This is so stupid. Was like me and Will Ferrell turn around and our butts hurt.

[B]

Oh yeah, it was great.

[C]

And so like there's like a whole beat in it where we're like trying to close a window and like clenching our butts. But the way my butt was clenching the underwear during dress was hilarious.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

And then the way the fabric just kind of fell for air was just a little less funny. The way the butt looked.

[A]

Totally, totally.

[C]

It's like. So I'm being like, I'm devastated, but it's like negligible.

[B]

Like no one would notice.

[A]

Like, this is a small thing, but I did a butt sketch that Andrew Desmukes wrote. So funny. I'm an alien who. And I like, I'm laying in bed with Natalie Portman and I'm like, here's something I have to tell you My face is my butt, and my butt is my face. So I'm talking out of my ass right now. And she's like, well, be yourself. And I roll over and I'm clenching my butt and talking out of it. And there was a quick change. I had, like, a dance belt, which are so uncomfortable because they had this alien, you know, space unifor.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They didn't want to see the creases, but there was, like, a little drop of something that landed on my butt during the quick change. So, like, you see this, like, wet thing on my. Looks like a wet fabric. And I'm like, that shouldn't be like that. You should just be able to see the butt just, like, clenching and talking. I'm sure nobody else saw it, but to me, I was like, oh, God damn it.

[C]

But this is, like, a thing again, I'm sorry. Image culture, where it's like, people are seeing 1 million videos a day on their phone.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's like, so ours, these sketch. Our sketches just become one of the million videos people see every day.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's like, no, our videos are different because we had a quick change right before.

[A]

Yeah. And it was really crazy. Yeah.

[C]

And everything that happened was really crazy.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Well, I mean, to your point, like, I, I, I could see it. There's. It would make sense to me that with all these, like, like fake AI generated images, that SNL could even have more interest because it is on stage made that week, you know, similar to the images that you create in your special or.

[C]

I don't know if you guys are feeling this way. I'm still on the show. Not fired yet. I'm having, like, am I fired? Did you guys just find out you

[A]

still have that feeling of six, five seasons in.

[C]

Yeah. Did you guys ever lose that, or.

[B]

No, I'm feeling the fear of, of losing the drop.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you ever lose the, the, the, the fear of, like, oh, I'm gonna get fired.

[B]

Huh?

[C]

I don't.

[B]

It definitely lessened over the course of time. I mean, by the end, like, yeah, I was able to negotiate to a point that I knew that I had, I had, like, some stature. It felt like at least there's a,

[C]

There's a part of me that's still, like, they could fire me, but, like, I'm having, Even though I'm still on the show, I'm having, like, like, nostalgia for the show. Like, because everything's getting so Internet video AI. It's like, oh, my God. I actually, it's so nice that I'M at this old timey thing, right?

[B]

Well, that's. I mean, like, I say this all the time, like, and I feel it as an audience member. It took me, well, it took me like a year to watch the show. I didn't really watch the season directly after my last year. Just like, it felt triggering in some way. It seems crazy, but now I watch it and I love it. And it does seem like, like, you all have, like, are in a great groove. And I feel like from an audience standpoint, it seems like you have. You have it together. And. And I will say, like, when you say things like, oh, it's kind of cool to be part of an old timey thing I watch sometimes I'm jealous because I'm like, fuck, it does look easier when you're watching it from over here. And it looks like if you just have fun with it, it could be a really wonderful time. You know what I mean?

[C]

I did well last night. I did Hollywood Handbook, by the way. Crying, laughing.

[A]

Love those guys. Love those boys.

[C]

Sweating, crying, crying, laughing. And I made Hayes drive me home afterwards.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. We were in the car, he was saying, oh, I read this thing that he just, like, snorted weirdly.

[A]

I thought it was sweet. I thought it was cute.

[C]

I. He said something like, oh, I read something about how you were talking about how you had tmj. And he's like, that's so crazy to think that you have tmj. Because you're like, you don't seem like, like, you know, they just saw me.

[B]

I don't know what TMJ is.

[C]

Jaw clenching disease got you. And he's like, but then we were just laughing for like two hours and he's like, you have tmj. And I'm like, it's so funny when people watch you on the show and they're like, oh, my God, you're having so much fun and you're smiling and laughing, and it's like, I have a face disorder. I'm so tightly wound and stressed out that my jaw muscles are in fight or flight every waking and sleeping moment of my life that I have mouth problems.

[A]

Oof.

[C]

And he's like, but I so can't tell.

[A]

Yeah, you look like you're having a blast. You really. Because you have. There's so much joy in your performances.

[C]

But you guys know what it's like. It's just like. Or even just like, because the show is so, like, grindy. Like, not even. Like, people are like, there's no, you know, people don't. It's nothing negative. It's just like, it keeps happening and keeps going, and it's a lot happening at once. Like, I, like, flew to la, like, Monday after the show, or Sunday after the Monday after the show.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then I come to LA and people are like, great job. And you're like, really? Do you know what I'm saying?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Because it's like, you'll be.

[B]

Oh, yeah. You still want that acknowledgment. And, like, it feels so good.

[C]

And you don't get it necessarily there because you don't going.

[A]

Because everybody else has something to focus on.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It's like, yes. You kind of get a congratulations. I feel like, like, on Wednesday, maybe after the table read, when people hear it for the first time or something.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Or like.

[C]

Or like, oh, yeah, that was fun sitting around.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But like, it's not like after you do it, that there's some big celebration because everyone's still focused on the show and then.

[B]

But I think the opposite is also true, where, like, you are in the thick of it and, like, you're obsessing over it. Where, like, a lot of the rest of the world is like, don't. We don't care too much. You know what I mean?

[C]

Right. I got on an airplane, flew to the other side of the country where it's, like, sunny out, and people are like, cool, man. And I'm like, no, you don't get it.

[B]

This is very important.

[A]

It's really stressful.

[C]

It's so great.

[B]

We got to talk about, I think, an iconic Sarah Sherman quote that I don't know that I feel like I'd be paraphrasing.

[A]

I would be paraphrasing, too, but I don't know, maybe we can look at it up on the. Google. Oh, yeah, we don't have.

[B]

Yeah, we can cut to the.

[A]

Yeah, we can point to it. Oh, my God. That. Point to it.

[B]

This is. Okay, so you were asked somebody you really want. Do you know? Do you know the.

[A]

I haven't seen it.

[C]

He goes, I don't know it by heart.

[A]

I don't know if I heard something like, I don't know, is there somebody at SNL that you wish you could have met or something? It was something around the 50th.

[B]

Like, who do you want to meet?

[A]

Somebody that you met that.

[C]

That's just, like, iconic.

[A]

That's, like, so incredible.

[C]

Epic.

[A]

Blew your mind out of the back of your head. You said something very sweet on the Good One podcast about me. I would never yeah, it's actually AI Slob. Just. We wanted to clear the record. That was not real.

[B]

It was very sweet and it was very sweet. It's essentially that, like, when you got there, Beck was. No. Had just left.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And people were devastated.

[A]

I. That makes me feel so good.

[C]

It was like. And by the way, you ever get the thing where I just. If p. You people need to be saying nice things about each other?

[A]

Yes, I agree.

[C]

Like, literally, people being like, oh, you probably get this a lot. So.

[B]

No, it always feels good.

[A]

Right? I know. I. Sometimes I, like, I get nervous about that because I'm like, oh, it's gonna sound generic or something.

[C]

I will. If I see any. I tell everyone I love. If I have a positive thought.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

You gotta be telling people.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. It was. I mean, it was so powerful. Like, seeing. Honestly, just seeing you do. Obviously, it was focused on me, but I was like. I was blown away by your just ability to do that and feel so comfortable with that. And it really, like, well, you set something off for me.

[C]

You have to know your. Your impact. It would be like, I have a memory. I have a gore memory. I'm in the props room getting some prop, like, checking in on some fucking whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Could I look at the beating heart? Oh, can we. Can we up compare two glasses or whatever? And like, Aan, the props guy was like, you don't even know about this Beck thing. That was, like, so amazing. Like, it would just be like, everyone. It was like I was in the props room, and they were like, oh, yeah, this reminds of us of this Beck thing. You don't even.

[A]

Like, that's wild.

[C]

And then people would.

[B]

You wouldn't understand.

[A]

You wouldn't get it. You're different than Beck.

[C]

God. It was just like, when Beck was here, it was just like. And then it always comes up, like, people always talk about how you're. The table go.

[A]

That's very sweet. That's. I did shine at the table.

[C]

And so I got there, and people were having to explain to me, like, well, Beck's not even here, so you don't even get what even you missed. So then it was like, people having to explain to me, like, well, when Beck was here, you would do that. Or people would be like, we don't even have a Beck for this.

[B]

Right. I feel like I can imagine the writer who said that worse.

[A]

Yeah, I think. Of course. I mean, that's. That. Is that. I mean. Yeah, that's.

[C]

So I got to experience Kyle.

[A]

Yeah, you got to experience Kyle.

[C]

I got to experience Kyle. Then everyone was trying to fill me in on what I missed out with Beck.

[A]

You got to experience people's missing me.

[C]

Right. Not which you never got to experience.

[A]

I never got. Yeah. And you're the only person who relayed this to me, which is important.

[C]

And it was everyone across every department. Which is why I bring up props.

[A]

I can.

[C]

Because it wasn't just 80. It wasn't just like, you know, and this could be TMI. But I feel like it shocked people when you left it.

[A]

It shocked people at the show. Oh yeah. Because they didn't see it coming.

[C]

No.

[A]

Yeah. I was kind of. I was quiet about it. It was because Jesse. Pregnant. Right. And she was like, I told Lauren the last show and yeah, it was just like still kind of pandemicy.

[C]

Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And I didn't want to make a big deal. I didn't want to announce it because I felt like if I was like, I'm leaving right then it would be. People would be able to like, it would just open it up for people to persuade me.

[C]

Right, right, right.

[A]

I kind of didn't. I felt. I think I felt weird about being like giving people the heads up and being like, well, yeah, here are your last couple weeks with me.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And versus just like enjoying it like a living funeral or something.

[C]

Was that hard without. Cuz even now I think about like Bowen left at Christmas.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it was like it. I felt it, you know, it is interest. Yeah.

[B]

You're asking me.

[C]

Was it odd?

[B]

Yeah, it was. What was for me was interesting.

[C]

Was that like you guys getting a fist fight.

[B]

Well, we came in with Dave McCary.

[C]

Right, right.

[B]

He left, I think our fifth year.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Rutherford was there our second year. And so like in ways we were all. It was always like kind of shifting a little bit though. Like after Dave left, I. I guess we settled into like, okay, Beck and I are here. And by that point I was just sort of curious, like I didn't know what my next move was per se. And I was like, I'm going to try to see what happens if I'm here on my own. Of course I missed him. And I've. I referenced this gesture very recently that Beck sent me a big bottle of squirt for my first. First week back.

[A]

But yeah, my guy loves his squirt.

[B]

But for me, it was also this other thing that was happening was that like the year prior to you coming, Beck's last year was a way covet. Intense year. Right. And it was like we started out the Season been performing for just like first responders, like the theater who I'm

[C]

still banging my pots and pans for.

[A]

Hey, that's right. Yeah. Still bang your pots and pans at 5, 7pm you guys are doing a

[B]

bit that's actually up.

[C]

No, I'm banging them for music.

[B]

I promise. I'm banging the pots. But it was such a bizarre way of doing the show that like, I feel like I had this conversation with other people who stayed like 80 and Kate even maybe that like, oh, it, it felt good to have like what felt like a more quote unquote normal season and to explore and I, I'm, you know, I got to hang out with you and we had to.

[C]

You know what I think about a lot, your last show. It was my first season. I bought you so many presents and then I was like self conscious. I was like, why did I do that?

[A]

That's. No. And should she have been conscious? She had been self conscious.

[B]

Never. No. And like, I felt, I felt, I,

[C]

I was like, like, I felt so

[B]

much love from you and, and you

[A]

know, it was, I feel that, that. But you gave them. I, I, I tell 80 about a gift I got her that I still haven't given her. Cuz of that feeling.

[B]

It's cuz I'm.

[A]

And every year I still sits in the back of a drawer and every now and then I see it. I'm like, that's so lame.

[B]

Give it to.

[A]

But I can't throw it out. I'm going to give it to her at some point. But it makes me feel insane.

[B]

Yeah. No, no, no. You made me feel, I mean, like, to me it was fun to just see like, corny, but like a new generation step in. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

And like, we had five new cast members this year and that was the first time I was like, I'm old.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, you're feeling it. I think it was my fifth. This is your fifth season you just finished. I think it was my fifth season where I was like, oh, oh, this is kind of the end of the.

[B]

Which is good for. Yeah, it is like good psychological. It's like, oh, yeah, I kind of have done what I was going to do here. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, you could still do it more. But then the new voice is coming in and you not being like the shiny new crazy voice that is changing things. Yeah.

[C]

And people are like, okay, grandma. Well, it's also. And then it's this like, weird. There's like a expectation that you'd Be good at the job when I still, every week, feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. I think about this all the time with A.D. like, how she did. I. I, like, talk about this all the time with her because I'm like, the fact that she did the show and shrill at the same time.

[A]

Never would I be able to do that.

[C]

When I come into Writing Night every Tuesday being like, what the Am I doing?

[A]

Yes. Yes. That never went away.

[C]

No.

[A]

Never went away.

[C]

No. And all of my. Like, everyone on Earth and every comedian on Earth has the SNL nightmare. It doesn't matter if they work there or not.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I feel like everyone has stress dreams that they work at SNL and whatever. My stress dreams are about Writing night. And I'm knocking on every door and the hallway is getting longer, and I open the door and it's like 1am and I haven't written anything. And people. I go into everyone's office and they're like, we don't want to work with you. And I'm like. And the hallway gets.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's. It's real. Because that's what it feels like.

[C]

But you were. But you. You can write a sketch and it's like, no big deal.

[B]

I pro. Yeah. I probably like.

[A]

You're a great writer.

[B]

I liked the writing process more than some people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you need somebody else or you want some.

[C]

Do you ever hit him with the Mooney parentheses? Parentheses, Mooney parentheses. No other writer.

[B]

I don't think I ever. I remember one time writing something and being too scared to submit it. That was, like, solely my name.

[C]

Yes. That's when I would, like, kick it over someone at, like, 10am and be like, yeah.

[B]

Even if you're, like, changing a couple words, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you.

[C]

I. Yeah. You know what I love to see? Parentheses dismisses.

[A]

Yes. He's. That is so funny. Like, I don't need such a great writer. Yeah.

[C]

Die for him.

[A]

I do, too. He's so. He's such a sweet, sweet guy. He's just.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

He's just like.

[B]

Like.

[C]

And now you guys were. That was your. That was your girl.

[A]

That was my girl. I go into his office and just.

[C]

He. And he also would be like, Talk about, like, even.

[A]

I miss him so much.

[C]

We'll be like, I used to write with bag. And I'm like, I'm not so bad.

[A]

Stop saying that. I'm right here.

[C]

So where were we? Right? Matt Damon smokes a fat blunt that got pulled before table.

[A]

Oh, no. I'm so sorry.

[C]

There's another thing. It's like, like, you know, you get, like. There's all these things that happen bureaucratically or whatever at the job where you feel, like. So, like, disrespected isn't the right word, but you just feel like five years

[A]

in, I can sketch at the table.

[B]

I can't. I'm not even going to.

[C]

I know.

[B]

I'm not going to touch that one.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But it's like getting.

[C]

Then you come to LA and people are like, no one has a job. And they're like, great. You. That was great. And you're like, really?

[B]

That is the best part about being at SNL is that it's a job.

[C]

It is a job. And I like that.

[B]

The reality is, like, you get to shine. You get to bring in your voice, do your weird shit, like, and that is rare.

[C]

I've been more normal the past year. It's been a lot of.

[A]

A lot of normies, a lot of normal actions, a lot of blonde.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Be the crazy guy. Be the crazy guy in the sketch.

[A]

Okay. I just got in from out of town.

[C]

Dude. What? Stop.

[A]

Yeah, I love.

[B]

That's actually a funny bit.

[A]

That's really good acting. That's really good, normal acting.

[C]

Stop. Seriously. We're at work and do you, like, was like, I found myself. Yes. But then it's like, you know, it always swings with the job where you're like, you'll miss. Then you start missing the other thing. Or like.

[B]

Like, I feel like when you're. Yeah, when you're playing that role, you get to, like, act a little more in a different. You know what I mean? Like, it's like what everybody else does. You know what I mean? And so it feels like good practice.

[C]

I agree. Yes. Because so much of the job does kind of feel like, not, like, stand up, but it's like, presentational or something. And then it's actually. I get a lot of notes from Lauren because I get into the acting part, I'll get a lot of notes from Lauren that are like, all right, like, chill. But I'm like, but he was being crazy.

[B]

Right? Right.

[C]

You know what I mean? Like, the scene is like, someone walks in with their pants on fire and I'm going like, oh, my God. And he's like, okay. Like, it's a big.

[A]

Calm down.

[B]

We know the pants are on fire.

[A]

But.

[C]

But I'm like, so in it. Like, I'm trying to, like, sure, sure, sure, sure.

[A]

We know. We know, and we love that about.

[B]

I remember once getting a Forgive me if I'm bragging here. Like, it was actually. It was like a. It was like a zombie sketch playing one of the straight guys. And he was like, kyle, great acting.

[A]

Oh, I think I remember that. Between Dr. And Air at the meeting, right? Yeah.

[C]

Guys, rare.

[B]

This is rare.

[A]

He knows that he can just do that and you'll remember it forever. Right. Like, then you'll be like, but I was doing that.

[B]

I was like, yeah, whatever. I guess I was like, I. I hit the marks right. Of just like, wait, come on, we gotta. Gotta get out of here right now. We gotta get out of here.

[A]

Oh, great doctor.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But also, you have. You have a great relationship with Lauren. He loves you.

[C]

I do be loving. I do be loving you.

[A]

You be loving and he be loving.

[B]

I love seeing the Broadway video logo pop. Pop up at the end of the special.

[C]

I wonder if he's seen it because it's really crazy.

[B]

It's crazy. But that is what I think is so cool. Yeah. About it. That, like.

[A]

Yeah. I would love to interview. I love the clitoris. It was one of the biggest I've

[C]

seen Sarah's clit open on. I will get, like, between. So between the dress show and the air show, we have a big meeting in front of basically 300 people. And Lauren gives a note. So to get a compliment is very rare because there's no time between dress and air.

[A]

Yeah. And it's in front of everybody that, like, matters. Yeah. All the department heads.

[C]

Yeah. And, like, the guy who lowers one light.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And. And I remember my biggest comment I got between Jess and Air was I was reacting too much to a guy whose pants were on fire. And he's like, sarah, you're gonna catch flies with that mouth. Cause I was going like, this guy's acting crazy.

[A]

And he's good. He's good. He knows how to boil it down.

[B]

Well, there is, unfortunately. I feel like we could go forever. I know. I know. And there's so many things that I want to talk about.

[C]

Oh, my God. I want, like, this gore memory.

[A]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[C]

I remember my gore memory.

[A]

You do? What's your gore memory?

[C]

I cut you off.

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

My gore memory.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I grew up on Long Island. Water, water everywhere. Not a drop to drink. I'm fishing with my dad.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

On the water.

[A]

How old are you? That. About this. About this old. Yeah. That's like. That's about four or five. Oh, the three.

[C]

No, so it's like.

[A]

Okay, six.

[C]

We're fishing. We are. I'm probably just there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He's pulling up a fish.

[A]

Okay. On his fishing pole.

[C]

On his fishing Classic pole. Classic. Another fish jumps up mid air, bites the other fish in half.

[B]

What?

[A]

Where are you fish?

[C]

Is this in an ocean in the Long Island Sound?

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Jumps up midair. Apparently this is a blue fish that does this. And then my dad reels in half of a fish and it's flopping around the boat and the boat is white and this half eaten fish is flapping around. Blood is spraying everywhere. So my dad gets a knife and is stabbing it, stabbing it, stabbing it and it won't die.

[A]

Oh my God.

[C]

It's flapping and it's flapping and blood spraying. And I'm like, I'm catching flies.

[A]

Yeah, you're catching flies. You've got those big eyes from that sketch you did. What is it called? The eyes, the incident.

[C]

And guess what? Cut. Cut.

[A]

That was cut.

[C]

That was cut.

[A]

See, I don't even know what's cut anymore.

[C]

No, I know. And then, and then someone will be like, I like that sketch. And you're like, well, it was cut. And they're like, I don't care.

[A]

She wasn't even on the show. So wait, okay, so you.

[B]

Yeah, the. You see a half a fish and it won't die.

[C]

My dad's stabbing it and that's my. My core gourmet.

[B]

And like, do you remember your internal reaction?

[C]

I remember. I. I can't believe that it's still alive.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And it's. Blood is spraying everywhere.

[B]

But you, in retrospect, you like it.

[C]

I think it just. I have. It appears in my dreams a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So like, that's like my recurrence. It's like a constant. It's like a preoccupation or something. And then my other thing was that my grandma got her eye removed.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And she would play pranks where she would take the lens off her eye. Right. And do like pranks being like a jump scare. So that the eyeball.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then I feel like I hear you talk about peewee.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And like Garbage Pail Kids, which I love. Which like. But almost you feel like a little young for Garbage Pail Kids. I don't even. But I mean, maybe the like classic. The first version of the cards.

[C]

I feel like so much of like you guys probably relate to this the like so much. It'll be like you express. You clearly have interests and the people are like, I'm gonna show you something that's gonna blow your mind.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's like, you know, Someone showed me Garbage Pail Kids. Or, like, that's how I found the B52s.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, my parents are like, we think this is your vibe.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

So I was like, a little kid and that was my first cd. Cool.

[A]

So you were just like, given more and more of this stuff and it, like, it started to. Just, like, you started to attract it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

But, like, I found Ren and Stimpy on my own. But a lot of people say in my special, I do, like, a large Marge thing where, like, my eyes come out. Right. And so many people have actually said to me since the special that the large Marge moment in Pee Wee's Big Adventure was there.

[B]

Like, yeah, that was huge, terrifying. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Just because we're saying. I think my gore moment was seeing Children of the Corn. The opening scene where they go into the diner and I think they put a guy's hand in the disposal and blood sprays out.

[C]

Did you do that in Y2K? Was it?

[B]

Yeah, it's a. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's classic. I think that happens in Halloween H2O2, when they rebooted it anyway.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a classic horror movie. I feel like about it every time.

[B]

I always get defensive when people are like, I remember, like, children's stuff back in the day was actually really, really scary. Like, I kind of don't like how cliche of a thing that is to say. But I also find it to be true. And for me, it was the movie Returned to Oz. Have you seen that?

[C]

My favorite movie.

[B]

The Wheelers.

[C]

The Wheelers, yes. My favorite movie.

[A]

And the head.

[C]

The heads. The claws of the heads.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. I have, like, one image of Return.

[B]

These are guys. They have, like, wheels on their arms and legs and they're just like. And they're kind of like, how you doing, Dorothy? I mean, I don't know. They, like, talk crazy.

[C]

It is some outfits.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When I rewatched Return to Oz as an adult, the scariest thing for me being so. I'm 18 now. She gets electroshock therapy. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

And you're like, what?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Where is the bulk return? Like, I've seen a part of it and I've heard people talk about it like this. So I don't really know much about Return of Oz, but, like, where does it fit in the, like, Oz ip? Like, is it. Did somebody just do whatever the they want?

[C]

Isn't it.

[B]

It's Disney. It is 10. It is like a sequel to wizard of Oz. You would watch them in sequence it was directed by Walter Murch, produced by George Lucas, I think.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

And it was just like incredibly dark and. And non commercial and it didn't do well, but it's like. It has like a weird, fucked up version of the Tin man, but he doesn't look like.

[C]

Oh, no. And then there's Jack the Clock guy. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, that's TikTok.

[A]

Right, Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

At some point you see a tin man.

[C]

Yes. But he's like, bronze.

[B]

Yeah. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's all a little. Yeah. Different than.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's like she comes back from Oz and she's like, guys, I went to Oz.

[B]

And they're in a mental. Right, Right.

[C]

So they send her to a fucking mental institution. She gets electroshock therapy, and that's when she returns to Oz.

[A]

Fuck.

[C]

It's cr. But then it's like she's got a

[B]

chicken and she got it and she got.

[C]

You better believe she got chickens like that.

[B]

Yeah, I think the chicken. It's just her friend chicken. And then, like, the chicken talks.

[C]

Maybe that's the best movie ever made.

[B]

I love. I love that.

[A]

I'm gonna watch it. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, we gotta. Okay.

[A]

We could talk forever. We're already over. We gotta get to the next part of the podcast. Do you see the clock?

[C]

I don't know what the rules are.

[A]

I don't know. We don't really have any rules. We're still figuring it out.

[C]

Out.

[A]

We're. But yeah.

[B]

The premise of our podcast is that we don't know what it should be. So you know that our guest comes in to pitch us an idea of what they think our podcast should be about.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Do you. Do you have an idea of what you think our podcast should be about?

[C]

I really think if I. I'm just basing this off of what I want a podcast to be about.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I just would love for it to just be about chips.

[A]

Great.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We'll be right back. Chips with chips.

[B]

How are you doing, B?

[A]

Oh, my God, I'm fucking amazing, dude. I was thinking, life couldn't be better.

[B]

Yeah, I was just thinking about.

[A]

Tell me what you were thinking.

[B]

Your dormitory party tower.

[A]

Do you recall this party tower was

[B]

right next to my old dorm? And I remember seeing you and you had a beach cruiser.

[A]

That's right. Yeah, it was kind of. The wheels came up, the handlebars came up.

[B]

Did you buy that on campus?

[A]

Yeah, I bought a couple of.

[B]

I feel like I remember them selling those by the bookstore.

[A]

Yeah, I bought a couple because they got stolen. Yeah, I had to get a couple

[B]

more I didn't know about.

[C]

And one time.

[B]

Did you. Were you trying to buy some weed and somebody tried to sell you some crack cocaine? Oh, I said, that's the rock. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, that actually did happen. Where was that? That's the rock. Was that in Mexico?

[B]

I think that was on campus.

[A]

That's the rock.

[B]

Well, that's the rock.

[A]

Yeah. It wasn't. I'll tell you what it wasn't. It wasn't chips, which are delicious, by the way, which are so crunchy and salty.

[C]

I walked into that.

[A]

And tangy and sweet. It's definitely something I don't have a chip on my shoulder about.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Ye.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Well, I'll just say, you know, that's my bag, baby.

[A]

Chips are your bag.

[B]

Well, I. Yeah, I guess I'm a chip off the old block.

[A]

Yeah. That's amazing. Well, let's get into it. Chips is our podcast. That's what it's all about. You told us. Chip podcast. That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle now.

[C]

Sarah Sherman.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Squirm. I saw you kind of driving the chip car.

[A]

That was cool.

[B]

Dance.

[C]

Beep beep. Did I somebody order chip?

[B]

That's what you call the dance

[A]

now. I'm. I'm lost.

[B]

I'm.

[C]

I am out.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, okay. I mean, and. But this is the younger generation, right?

[A]

Yeah, this is the younger generation. They do things a little bit differently.

[C]

Yeah, exactly, Jen.

[A]

Differently. Yeah.

[B]

I got. Were you into chips growing up? I was. I'm curious.

[C]

Yeah, I guess. Let me think. What was my first core chip memory? Yeah. I just basically loved chips my whole life. They've always been there. I've always liked eating. Oh, my God. I do have a core gore chip memory.

[A]

You have a gore chip memory or a core chip?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

I'm cre. All over the place.

[B]

And this is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, And. And we have the. Sorry. This dance is called the. Who needs you? What is that?

[C]

Sorry. Beep beep. Did somebody order chips?

[B]

Beep beep. Did somebody order chips? She doing the beep beep.

[A]

Did somebody order chips? Everybody do it now.

[B]

Beep beep. For those of you who are just listening, Sarah invented this incredible dance. It's called Beep beep.

[C]

Who's going?

[A]

It's almost. It's almost kind of like, whoop them. Gangam style.

[B]

Yes. Sigh, sigh.

[A]

Millions of views on YouTube for Welcome Gangnam Style.

[B]

You gotta hear this. Chip memory.

[C]

I was. I was. I was at the sprinkler. I'm this.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I'm at the sprinklers.

[B]

Four years old.

[A]

Three and a half, four.

[C]

Smaller even. I'm at the sprinklers with my mom. And I'm wearing the cutest one piece bathing suit, black and white polka dot, one piece strawberries on each breast.

[A]

I'll say it interesting.

[C]

And I'm loving. I'm like, literally, it has sequins on it. I'm like this. I know I look cute. Yeah, I'm loving it. Running through the sprinklers. One of the sprinklers is shaped like an elephant. Spraying.

[A]

Oh, so it was like an attachment, like an elephant.

[C]

It was like. It was a big elephant sculpture in the park.

[B]

Oh, oh.

[C]

Water came out the nose trunk.

[A]

This sounds fun.

[C]

This is fun.

[B]

I'm so waiting for the chip connection.

[A]

The gore. The chip. The gore chip.

[B]

I know it's coming, but Sarah's a master storyteller.

[A]

Yes, she is. She's painting a picture. She's immersing us into the world.

[C]

Open army sprinkler. Elephant.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I am eating a giant bag of lay's barbecue chips.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And I. My one piece so hard that my mom has to take me to the bathroom at the public park. And it. The Went barbecue chips. Went all on my front and back. And my mom's wiping off my front and back. Back.

[A]

That is.

[C]

And that's a core gore chip memory.

[A]

That's a gore cor. Gore chip memory.

[C]

I've related barbecue chips to diarrhea my whole life.

[B]

Have you had any since?

[C]

Many. Hey, don't stop me.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

Okay, girl, you do your thing.

[A]

Gangam style

[B]

now. Potatoes. Classic.

[A]

I'm sorry, by the way. I'm sorry that happened.

[B]

Oh, yeah, truly. And I, you know, in my research, I really was. It was enlightening to learn that diarrhea has been something that you've been suffering, I feel like, has been a constant at different points in your life.

[C]

Is that accurate? Yeah, different parts still to this day, top down, all around. I'm basically getting shit up the back kind of daily.

[A]

I. I was, you know, in preparation of. Of all this, you know, you check out a Wikipedia here there. It would be fun. If you like, the personal part of your Wikipedia was just all the times you' at your pants.

[C]

Sarah's Jewish and she suffers from diarrhea.

[A]

Sarah grew up in Long island shitting her pants at various different points there.

[C]

Shitting her one piece.

[B]

Yeah. I didn't even know that barbecue chips could make you shit.

[C]

Well, me neither. I think it was like running. I was hot outside. Running around.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you know if you got to keep a bathing suit or was that like. Well, now it's.

[C]

Well, I remember being like my favorite thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I remember. I don't know if this is, like, implanted memory in my mind. I look down at the strawberries and I see coming up over.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

Well, I was curious. Plain Lays or Ruffles?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, Ruffles. Definitely Ruffles. And now I'm on to kettle. I like a crunch. I mean, although you go back to the old Lays, those classic Thin Lays. You can see the grease stain through the trip, you know, making it translucent.

[B]

Sort of Baked Lays.

[C]

Yes. Lauren's favorite chip.

[A]

Yes, absolutely. Table read chips.

[C]

Table read chips.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'll do the sour cream and onion baked.

[C]

They reformulated them. Did you know this?

[A]

Well, I knew they used to be made with olene, which would make you Your pants.

[C]

Anal leakage. Remember this?

[A]

Anal leakage? Because my mom was a. Was a. A health nut, and she got the. The Doritos and Cheetos. It was like, o. That was. It was like, oh, Dorito. It's like, oh, exclamation point. And then it's like it's made with something. It's like it gives you runny stool.

[C]

There was a new. I remember the new leakage. It was like in the new. Yeah, that was like the big thing.

[B]

And this is like Y2K era, right? This is like.

[A]

This is like 90s, late 90s. Yeah.

[C]

And anal leakage was on everyone's lips.

[A]

Yeah, it really was. Yeah. I remember that about chips.

[B]

Do you? We. And just for the listener, we do have a collection of chips in front of us. We were told by our producer that people don't. Oh, man, my stomach is grumbling.

[A]

Look at these. Oh, he sees the chips. Chips, you love to munch and crunch. Kyle lives off of snacks.

[B]

Eat chips in this room.

[A]

Yes, you do.

[C]

Do you consider. Are you guys chip eaters?

[A]

I am, yeah. I'm trying not to be right now. You know, I'll go through phases, the

[B]

context, probably where I got my most chip eating done besides.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

A social event.

[A]

Yeah, for me. For you, it's almost like part of your regulated diet. For me, if I'm loosely eating chips, you can bet that I'm probably in the process of gaining five to ten pounds and not knowing it, thinking that I'm good, you know? And then, like, when I stop is when I realize I've I've been eating chips.

[B]

I've got some this or that. Questions for you guys regarding chips. Okay, this is.

[A]

These are.

[B]

Some of. These are kind of classic.

[A]

Okay, great. Okay, sister Doritos.

[B]

Are you going nacho cheese or cool Ranch?

[C]

I'm going the purple bag.

[A]

What's purple?

[C]

Sweet chili.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Never even had it.

[C]

That's why I feel like you guys aren't in the fucking chip game, dude.

[A]

That's kind of fucked up for you to say, but I.

[B]

But I'll. But like, like, yeah, we're in the OG. Like, I think our chip consumption stops in 1990 and then we like, continue to eat the same ones.

[C]

You were just on tour. Don't chips come up a lot when you're on tour? Because you.

[A]

You must. They're all over the place. Green rooms, flooding the green rooms.

[C]

Green room, gas stations.

[B]

Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure.

[A]

I think I know. Wait, now I'm. Now I'm realizing the best kettle chip. Do you know what the best kettle brand is?

[C]

Kettle know.

[A]

It might be dirty.

[B]

Could dirty.

[C]

Oh, dirty.

[A]

I think dirty.

[C]

It has the skin on it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Uglies are also very good. I think it's dirty. Do you know what the best chip is?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I actually don't really know.

[B]

And I guess there's also the puffed and crunchy debate. You're right. You got the flamin hot onions. These are down here. I've never seen.

[A]

I used to be.

[C]

Wow, those are good.

[A]

Used to be all about the Cheetos. Paws, the shapes.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

When I was a kid.

[B]

The green bag, as I recall.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And as I love the puffs, but as I've gotten older, puffs have no place in my life.

[C]

Are you fucking serious?

[A]

Yeah, just simple, regular Cheetos are like my size.

[C]

You guys grow up with cheese doodles?

[A]

Yeah, those were around.

[B]

Okay, remind me because how similar or dissimilar is it to a Cheeto?

[C]

It is you. Some would argue the same.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But it's actually different. And the bag was awesome. What is the shape like a puff?

[A]

It looks like a ch.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it an uts?

[C]

It might be uts or wise.

[B]

Okay, we. And I remember the.

[C]

It's wise. It's wise.

[A]

Killed it.

[C]

Wait, do you guys do like picture?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, we do pictures.

[B]

Nice. Sorry. Say something or maybe do.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

When the bag was the blue bag with the squiggle.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Right there.

[B]

I don't know that I ever had those. I hate to say it. And they still exist. Do you think?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they do.

[B]

Okay. Can I pop a flamin hot onion funny in here.

[C]

And will you bleep out the sound of him chewing? Just bleep it.

[A]

Yeah, you just bleep it.

[B]

Does anybody want to try it?

[C]

Yes. I love those.

[A]

I've never had the flamin hot Funyun, so it's.

[B]

It's review time. Not a lot of good rings in here. Do you know what I mean?

[C]

That's just good.

[A]

Yeah, that's fantastic.

[C]

That's fantastic.

[A]

That's really good. I mean, you, you lose a lot of the Funyun taste. I lose a lot of it. But it's incredible texture and I love the spicy. It does come with you.

[C]

Is there a lime? Am I. Am I tasting hint of lime?

[A]

I taste a little lime. Yeah, that could be. I'm tasting hint of lime. They love to hint the lime, don't they? They love to just do a little.

[C]

That's good.

[A]

Before we went into this podcast, you were gonna say I was gon, I. I was going to guess your favorite

[C]

chips and you said based on the bag, I feel like I can guess. And I said that's a good place

[A]

to start cuz they're also my favorite chips. But then the bag I think is on brand for you. Voodoo.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I knew it.

[C]

I knew it. I knew you would do.

[A]

I knew, I knew it. Voodoo chips.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that a New Orleans thing?

[A]

I think so. Is that Zap Zappo Zaps? I think it's zaps chips.

[C]

I think it is a New Orleans thing.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, it is. And they're voodoo dolls all over it.

[C]

And by the way, I'm saying, I think as if I don't completely. 100.

[A]

Yeah. So you do know, you know, it's

[C]

a New Orleans try to act cool.

[A]

Yeah. Chips are amazing. They've always been there for us through every turn.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can I ask. Yeah, no, I just.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

No, yeah, no, that's.

[B]

I did interrupt.

[A]

No, I think it's. I was gonna ramp up to something.

[C]

Oh, were you?

[B]

Right?

[A]

No, not really. Really?

[B]

Where do you fall on. Because I don't even know what this debate is, but potato chip versus tortilla chip, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now to me, chips and salsa is actually like one of my favorite things.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

It's like it's unfucking believable. It's literally unfucking believable that it exists. It's the bet. Like just a totino salsa off the shelf with a fucking scoops.

[A]

I love the scoops. I love scoops.

[C]

It's simple scoops.

[A]

It really is.

[C]

And to go from guac to salsa

[A]

and then try a little bit of both. Like, what are we talking about?

[B]

I dream. I actually do dream about chips and salsa. Like, I think like yesterday I was

[C]

probably like, okay, salsa though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was thinking, like, to be honest, I'm like restaurant, like kind of old school Mexican restaurant.

[A]

Like, no chunks, like full puree.

[B]

Oh. What do I like the most interesting?

[A]

Because, you know, there's that red. There's a salsa more of like a

[B]

fresca pico de gallo type chunky.

[A]

There's that and then there's like the chunky salsa, which is like the, the one that you were talking about, the one on the shelf.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Like a tostitos.

[A]

Tostitos, yeah. And then there's like pico and then there's like the very blended. You know what I mean? It's like almost like a. It's like a spot show style text blended and it's.

[B]

And for me, like, kick is really important. So I kind of am open to level of chunkiness or non chunkiness.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If the kick is there, it could take it to a different level.

[C]

Do you want fire? Do you want straight fire?

[A]

You want straight fire in your chips?

[B]

Yeah, pretty much do.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I mean, like, I, I would probably like, if 10 is fire. Fire. I probably actually like to comfortably eat, like to enjoy. Like, I'm with my family. I probably with like an an eight is where I want, like something that's not. Or seven or eight something with my family.

[A]

But if I want to feel the

[B]

heat on my own terms, I want to go 10.

[A]

Is there a restaurant or a bag of chips Salsa combination? That is your go to, man.

[B]

I shouted out a salsa on a website, but I, I, But I'm sort of. I would have to look up. It's like Tate M or something like that. And I'm. That that's me saying a word that might not exist.

[C]

Yeah, I can look it up now, but why bother?

[A]

Yeah, no, no, why bother?

[B]

I think just.

[A]

I say we just leave it.

[B]

But there is a. At the Sprouts near our house, there's this like kind of white jalapeno salsa. That is. That, that's my favorite.

[A]

Oh, I can feel it in my butt already.

[B]

Okay, I'll find it while you guys talk to you.

[A]

Spicy.

[C]

When we were talking about, yeah, we might be going to a barbecue in a couple days. Yeah, yeah, that's what I want.

[B]

Yes, I will go off on a bowl.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Will you bring that, Kyle, the salsa? Yeah, sure. Yeah. And it is.

[B]

It is. While you're at it, I don't know that I'm pronouncing. Pronounce this accurately. It's tatemata, T A, T, E, M A, D, A. It's this one. It's almost brought up instacart. All of a sudden it's like, what am I doing shopping in the middle of the podcast?

[A]

I've seen that before. That's good stuff.

[B]

It's, like, almost, like, yellowish.

[C]

That's interesting. It's actually. That looks smooth. That doesn't look chunky.

[B]

It is. It is pretty smooth. But that's my favorite thing I get off. Off the shelves.

[C]

And that's your favorite chip, you would say, is chips and salsa. O.

[B]

Well, that's the thing. Like, the chip is. The chips and salsa are like a thing. 13.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I love those jalapeno.

[A]

I think typically I do. I love potato chips. But I'm typically, if I'm gonna bring some chips into my house, I'm gonna get a tortilla chip, because then I can dip it in anything.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And they're good on their own.

[C]

And then it's healthy because all of a sudden I'm using hummus. It's like, so.

[A]

And it's corn. It's just corn in a flat.

[C]

Well, this is what I don't understand.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because our chips bad for you.

[A]

Yeah, right, right. The fried. The fried.

[B]

But no, I know the argument you're making. The argument that it's like how we're not that far off from a vegetable here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I feel like corn.

[C]

Corn chips, like a Bjorn corn. I think that's, that's, like, basically good for you.

[A]

That's basically healthy.

[B]

But is that. But it's popcorn chips. Chips

[A]

like popcorn.

[C]

But what is. It's not fried.

[A]

Well, popcorn popcorn isn't. But I think tortilla, right. Is smashed down into little flat tortillas, and then they chop them off.

[C]

Is it worse for you than French fries?

[A]

I'm gonna say no. I think French fries have more grease.

[B]

That's my. I, I, I, I think that's probably right.

[A]

Chips are healthier for you than.

[C]

Because what chip. It's not even there. So how could it even be bad for you?

[A]

What's not even there? Yeah.

[C]

So not even, like, it basically even exists at all.

[B]

I don't even know. I mean, like, they got at 30 Rock. There would be like, a little basket where you could Grab some chips.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

I feel like we all grab chips at times.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, it's been making an appearance at that basket.

[A]

What?

[C]

The Delta terra chip? The like weird potato? The weird like they're like radishes and.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah. Yes.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[C]

How do you feel even appearing?

[B]

You like them?

[C]

I'm going. You have no place here. Right?

[A]

Like that's like wrong crowd. This should be a goop, not a snow.

[B]

Like you're.

[A]

Cause also like you're bringing some awkward

[B]

energy that is you just cannot handle right now.

[C]

No, it's like, honestly it's. It is like it is odd.

[A]

Yeah. It's like the root vegetable.

[B]

But I remember there were times I remember like. Yeah, for a table read when like there would be a switch up somehow and like it's like talk to us, you know, just like, like we've got a routine here. What's happening?

[C]

You come to me on the day of my daughter's wedding with gluten free

[B]

turkey roll ups, by the way.

[A]

I just feel like come out one day and it's like there's just a pile of shredded beef. Like what?

[B]

What the is food?

[C]

I do not eat. Writers don't wash their hands. They have poop hands and they're touching all the food.

[A]

Oh my gosh. You heard it here first, folks. Writers have poop hands and they touch all the food.

[C]

And look at how I'm holding my hand. Cuz these are my chip fingers.

[B]

Right? Which is. And like the main thing you're talking about like the little sandwiches. Is this the main thing that you're concerned about? Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Dooo. Hands all over.

[A]

Doo hands all over these. It makes you stronger. I would get sick a lot after eating it, but then I. It made me stronger.

[B]

Can I just say something? Those are good about also. And I get a the bag. This is just the perfect thing to like grab to go. Like it's like in terms of y. Okay, I know what I'm getting. I'm going to. I got. I can toss it. Like they really figured something.

[C]

That's a matte wrapper. We have a lot of high gloss. Yeah, that's matte.

[A]

Yes. Matt says I'm classy.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I'm not. I'm a step up. I'm helping healthy.

[C]

I'm about to throw something at y'. All.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Ruffles. All dressed, period.

[A]

What do you mean all dressed? Is that the flavor?

[C]

This is a Canadian thing. Do you know what I'm saying?

[B]

I sort of. I'm not trying to. I have like visions in my head of what this could be.

[C]

But okay, do the picture Ruffles all dress.

[B]

You got to do the. Do the drive. Do the dance.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I got a car full of love parking trying to parallel park. Ruffles all dressed Canadian flavor. They only have it in Canada.

[A]

Is it amazing? Is it like voodoo?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

It's like ketchup. E almost. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And it's like a little vinegar, a little ketchup, a little onion, a little like paprika or some. Oh, oh, oh, okay.

[B]

I gotta. I gotta try these.

[C]

I touch toe in Canada. I'm going where all.

[A]

Well, I think that's. I. We have to wrap up the chip podcast.

[C]

You didn't say your favorite chip.

[A]

I didn't. I think it's voodoo.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Voodoo's my go to. What about you, Kyle?

[B]

I. I guess I said by default lays. Is that what happened?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Does anybody have a chip on their shoulder they want to get it off? I don't have any.

[C]

I made a even. I was preparing. I wrote a list on my phone.

[B]

Oh, let's hear it. Yeah, These are in.

[A]

And these are Sherman. That she needs to get off her shoulders.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Phone's dirty. From my bag.

[A]

Yeah, from your bag.

[C]

Okay. Put the images here. Zaps Voodoo.

[A]

That's number one.

[B]

This is the ranking.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, no. I didn't know. I didn't know what we were doing.

[C]

Maybe you will.

[B]

You're just naming chips you like. Maybe I will.

[C]

Maybe I would. Was unconsciously ranking.

[B]

Okay, you can also go. You know the. What is it? S tier A tier, B tier, C tier.

[C]

Oh, maybe this is this. Yeah, this is S tier Ruffles. All dressed now. We're going. What is it? B tier, A tier, A tier. Any salt and vinegar?

[B]

Okay, now I find that salt and vinegar like that could be a little sticky, though. That's my only issue. But I love it.

[C]

No problem. No problem here.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

No, no problem here. Yeah, get that sticky. Lick those fingies.

[B]

Licking them off now. I like it. Sir.

[C]

You guys know about Turt chips?

[A]

No. What are you talking about? Pop it up. Turtle chips. Pop them up.

[B]

That's a brand.

[C]

Yes. And they're Korean. I want to say Korean. And they have you.

[A]

We got to get them in here.

[C]

It's the texture of Bugle. Yeah, but it's like eight layers.

[A]

They do that.

[B]

Interesting. And where. Where do you get term.

[A]

They are so good at that.

[C]

Any store near my house.

[B]

Any store. Oh, God.

[C]

Well, how do you just. They're corn. They're yeah, they're corn chips. And yeah, the layers. They're like. They look like a turtle shell. It is cute. Out your ass. Blow your mind.

[A]

Oh, turtle chips. Look at those. Crunchy.

[B]

Oh, those do look cool.

[C]

Holy. Those are good.

[B]

Sweet corn, too.

[A]

I like the guy.

[C]

Okay, now this is C. No.

[B]

B. Yep.

[C]

Lays ketchup. Also Canadian.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There were some in the kitchen the other day. They're very good.

[C]

Well, they've broken containment. They're in this country.

[A]

Or it might have been. They might have been shipped in or somebody's doing. I think they were like. For the doughboys or something, like.

[C]

Oh, they were doing a Canadian episode.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Okay. Bjorn corn.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And then C tier or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

All cheese doodles.

[A]

All cheese doodles.

[C]

Cheeto. Cheese doodle.

[B]

I see.

[C]

Ut's ball.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Love the balls, right? Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Crunchy.

[B]

I think planters had a cheese balls, too.

[A]

Yeah, they did. My. My grandparents had the planters. Yeah. The can. The can was amazing.

[C]

That is good. That is good. That's good eating.

[A]

Those are Sarah's chips. Wow. It's really been amazing here on the Chips podcast. Yeah. To go through the history of our chips.

[B]

Just sort of chipping away at chips.

[A]

Yeah. Chipping away at who we are and who we will be.

[B]

And I gotta say, after hanging out with Sarah and being with my old pal, old pal Beck, I'm feeling a little chipper.

[A]

Well, we hope we. We left you all chipper out there

[B]

and hopefully won't be like two chips in the night.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Call me Chip and Dale is the way I take my pants off and there's a cheese doodle there.

[B]

I was thinking of the little chipmunks, but you're referring to the dancers.

[C]

Right, Right.

[B]

Grab a Chip and Dale, because I'm ready to take my pants off and grab an acorn. Yeah. Well, chips ahoy.

[A]

Chips. Ah.

[B]

Well, this was. You get. Sometimes you have these episodes with guests back where it's like, I actually.

[C]

Like.

[B]

There's so much I want to talk about. I enjoy your company so much.

[A]

Like, it's.

[B]

You can't even do it all.

[A]

You can't. And we.

[B]

We were hanging out for a long time.

[A]

I know. We went over our time and we could have gone a lot longer.

[C]

Podcast topics.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

What's our podcast? What isn't our podcast?

[A]

What isn't our podcast? We see that. Yeah, I know. And one of the. One of the most incredible people in the world, Right?

[C]

That's me, apparently.

[A]

That's you. That is you.

[B]

Funny.

[A]

Cool as hell. You got this big ass heart. Look at all these hearts.

[C]

Nice.

[B]

Artistic. I mean, like, I. That's.

[C]

That is a house.

[B]

That's when I.

[A]

I was.

[B]

When you were do. When you were doing your little. Your sort of chip rankings. I feel like you and I did a lot of together through the hall. It's just sort of constantly being random.

[C]

Hey, if you bring it out of me, if you pull that awkward turtle

[A]

right at him, you guys are so.

[B]

What do you want to tell the people about that you've been working on?

[C]

Guys, seriously, watch YouTube clips of me.

[A]

Yeah, just random ass YouTube clips.

[B]

That's just. And now should they search Sarah Sherman or Sarah Squirm or both?

[C]

Go. You open that HBO Max app, you open that little magnifying glass, you write Sarah Squirm live in the flower flesh. You say, this was released in December and I still haven't seen it. Join the club of millions and make

[A]

sure to join the club of millions of millions of people. It's a huge club.

[B]

You should have a club. I feel like that is a good idea. Yeah, like. Like Peewee. I'm sure he had a.

[C]

If you guys want to take clips of this podcast, make a fan cam of us laughing over BTS music or something.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that would be great. Great.

[C]

That'd be kind of cool. And.

[B]

Yeah, anything we should know about the Vondette chats or.

[C]

Yeah, I do not approve.

[B]

Okay. We do not either.

[A]

We do not either. Definitely not us.

[C]

Not I.

[A]

Not I.

[B]

Well, it's always incredible having you, Sarah.

[A]

It's always incredible having you. We love you so much. You rule.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Everybody loves you. It's incredible.

[B]

Sarah's wonderful work on the show and. And if she's coming to your town, I don't know if she'll be doing that.

[A]

She will do something you've never seen before. She makes things.

[C]

She will bomb.

[A]

She will bomb your eyes out of your face and explode your heart and make your.

[B]

Here we go.

[A]

Bust with laughter. She doing the Gangam style.

[B]

I don't think that's gang.

[A]

It's not Gangam style. I know. I just like saying it.

[B]

To me, it's hip hop.

[A]

Yeah, it is hip hop.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[A]

Love you.

[C]

See?

[A]

In the Batcave.

[C]

As Vonda says. Bye.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

What's Our podcast is a headgun podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.

[A]

The show is produced and engineered by Richelle Chen and Anya Kanofskaya with production support from Ali Khan and Ryan Lutzow.

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Our executive producer is Anya Kanefskaya Katie Moose is our VP of content at Headgum. Our theme music is made by us.

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For more podcasts by headgum, visit headcom.com or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hello, I'm Johnny Knoxville.

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And I'm Jeff Tremaine.

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Welcome to Jackass the Podcast, a new show coming to. Coming to. That's what it is. Hello, I'm Johnny Knoxville.

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And I'm Jeff Tremaine.

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Welcome to Jackass the Podcast, a new show coming to Headgum. Soon.

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I've learned a Jackass movie has to

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be really 90 minutes. Every minute over is admitted too long. Apparently. There's only so much butthole you can take. We're going to take you behind the scenes of our entire history. All the best bits, bad behavior, and even worse decisions. All of it. Sometimes we don't make the right decisions, Jeff. I've noticed that every. Every so often with guests like Spike Jones. I think let's commit to Jackass the Podcast.

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What was it going to be called?

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The Jackass Podcast. Without you, the IQ drops significantly. Steve O.

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There's a strong chance that were it not for Jackass, that I would be in clown makeup right this fucking minute.

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Chris Pontius, that shot of your butt just cruising up, I'm like, yeah, I got that on tv.

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God bless us, Dave England.

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Yeah. When you come in and you're being really nice, I'm like, damn it. Something bad's gonna happen to me. Wee Man.

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Jeff grabbed me from the back of

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the head and threw a punch.

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The whole bar just stopped and wanted

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to kill me and some of the crew that's been with us from the beginning.

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I had to share a room with this guy.

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I left a nice surprise in the

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toilet for him every time.

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Apparently, he hates to flush. Subscribe to Jackass the Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Pocket Cast, or wherever the

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hell you get podcasts. Our new episodes drop on June 18th.

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Woo.

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Look out for new episodes in your feed every Thursday.

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Watch video episodes on YouTube and follow along with us on Instagram and Tik Tok at Jackass the Podcast, what were we just talking about? Probably buttholes.

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Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

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Sterling K. Brown. And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that Was Us now on Head.

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Each episode, we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show.

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This is us. That's right.

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We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with

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different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

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Are we gonna cry? Yes, a little bit. Are we gonna laugh a lot. A lot, a whole lot. That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to that. Was us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify new episodes every Tuesday.