Chris Fleming

Summary

What's Our Podcast? with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney

Special Guest: Chris Fleming

Episode Date: May 20, 2026
Theme: Figuring out what "What's Our Podcast?" is—with Chris Fleming, comedy, performance insecurity, and antihistamines.

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Episode Overview

This episode features comedians Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney catching up with special guest Chris Fleming (noted for his unique stand-up and HBO special, Live at the Palace). Together, they dive into everything from comedy nerves to antihistamines, bath rituals, childhood performing, and the behind-the-scenes realities of stand-up specials. True to the show’s concept, Chris is also challenged to propose a podcast theme, resulting in a hilarious bit about "Histamine & Anti-Histamine." The tone is loose, playful, and filled with tangents characteristic of all three comics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Patreon Launch and Relationship Banter

[00:13 – 03:11]

• Beck and Kyle formally announce their new Patreon, breaking down the perks for each tier (bonus episodes, fan Q&As, Discord access, exclusive sketches).
• Recurring theme: They still don't fully know what their podcast is about and are open to audience suggestions.
• They riff on inside jokes (e.g., “Rocco” tiers), and how their rapport resembles their college friendship.

Memorable Quote:

"We didn't know what it is. We still are finding out what it is every single week when we come together with our guests."
— Beck Bennett [00:35]

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2. Friendship, SNL, and Comedy Nostalgia

[05:11 – 06:14]

• Sentimental reminiscing about their journey from college friends to SNL cast members.
• Discuss the rarity of getting that opportunity together.

Memorable Quote:

“Remember when we got on SNL? That was so special. And the fact that we had known each other, that we got on the show together.”
— Beck Bennett [06:12]

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3. Bullies, Bits, and Opposite Day

[07:06 – 12:35]

• Riffing on bullies—“Bullies can take a hike and eat my shorts."
• Discussion detours into school “Opposite Day,” playful insults, and hypothetical movie pitches (“It’s Opposite Day, but dark!”), moving into comedic meta-commentary on riffing and playful antagonism.

Memorable Moment:

• Kyle and Beck fake-insult one another, struggle with “playful” insults, and debrief on podcast chemistry.

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4. Guest Arrival: Chris Fleming

[22:12 – 26:00]

• Playful hair comparisons between Chris and Kyle.
• Reminiscing about running into each other in the wild (Hollywood, cheeseburgers, special just dropped).
• Chris reflects on the awkwardness and beauty of eccentric social introductions.

Quote:

“You guys have almost the exact same hair... Tighter curls.”
— Beck Bennett & Chris Fleming [22:53 – 23:07]

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5. Chris Fleming’s HBO Special and Performing Insecurity

[25:38 – 34:23]

• Discussion on the release of Chris’s HBO special, Live at the Palace.
• Reflections on having to “start from scratch” creatively post-special and enduring the anxiety of live performance.
• How press rounds distance comics from creativity—Chris jokes about “feeling like Elizabeth Warren.”

Notable Quotes:

“I have this impossible quota in my head of like a laugh decibel... If I’m not getting a certain high laugh, then I completely freak out.”
— Chris Fleming [33:02]

“To even think that you would have performance insecurity at all is tough to imagine.”
— Beck Bennett [29:16]

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6. Nerdy Comedy, Specificity of Reference, and Audience Connection

[34:32 – 37:53]

• Chris’s act is praised for playing to the “highest common denominator”—specific references and niche bits that still land with broad crowds.
• Debate about whether the audience simply shares Chris’s frame of reference, or if passion makes any topic funny.

Quote:

“What I love about your special and your work is that you’re sort of playing to the highest common denominator... talking to the audience like we’re all on the same page.”
— Beck Bennett [34:32]

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7. Stand-Up Ethics: Joking About Real People

[37:53 – 40:19]

• Chris discusses referencing real figures (from university presidents to SNL’s Colin Jost) in his act, and how, more often than not, those mentioned enjoy the attention or at least don’t mind.
• Story: The university president “Mark C. Connor” dropped the “C” after Chris’s special.

Quote:

“He signed his email to me ‘C’. Next time you're in Saratoga, sushi & appletinis are on me – C.”
— Chris Fleming [37:37]

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8. Childhood Comedy Origin Stories

[47:07 – 53:52]

• Chris and the hosts talk about their first comedy experiments: high school video projects, improv classes, “folktale” readings in class, early sketch groups.
• Discuss how supportive teachers (and, in Chris’s case, his mom) nudged them toward performing.

Quote:

“She would give me some time to, like, perform during class.”
— Chris Fleming [49:29]

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9. Chris’s Bath Rituals, Dog Stories, and Allergies

[57:32 – 76:56]

• Chris describes breaking into a frat to rescue pit bulls (at his landlord's insistence), instigating a tangent about landlords, dog breeds, and rituals.
• Bathing as both relaxation and emotional reset; baths described as "antihistamines" in their own right.
• Reveals his cashew allergy, recurring rashes (post-bad gigs), and the intoxicating pleasure of scalding water on a rash.
• Kyle recounts his Bermuda grass allergy and childhood asthma gear.

Quote:

“Whenever I see a dachshund... I go: ‘Things are gonna be all right.’”
— Chris Fleming [58:46]

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10. Music, Nostalgia, and the “Bath as Antihistamine”

[84:44 – 90:03]

• The trio discusses Madonna, Pet Shop Boys, and Billy Joel’s “Why Should I Worry” (from "Oliver and Company") as bath soundtracks.
• Chris proposes that the bath itself is “an antihistamine for the soul.”
• The podcast bit “Histamine and Anti-Histamine” (prompted by guest suggestion) is riffed as a fake podcast chunk.

Quote:

“Is it safe to say that the bath is almost an antihistamine...? That’s completely what it is.”
— Chris Fleming [89:17]

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11. Riffing, Show Wrapping, & Lasting Friendships

[91:47 – End]

• Playful recap of the faux podcast segment, discussion of what should/shouldn’t be shown (e.g., “the rash”), and more meta-joking about their chemistry.
• Chris praises the kindness and interview skills of Beck and Kyle.
• Promos for Chris Fleming’s HBO special, “Live at the Palace.”
• The group reminisces about old LA alt-comedy nights and venue feng shui.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You have to. If I was ever part of a play, I would feel a little bit like... I don’t want to say anti, but feeling like, ‘this is it?’”
  — Chris Fleming on needing solo creative outlets [51:37]

• “I think Drew [Barrymore] makes everyone cry.”
  — Chris Fleming [62:22]

• “Whenever it happens, after I bomb really hard, I forget I have a cashew allergy… by 3am start getting itchy. … You ever have a rash, you put it under scalding hot water? Most pleasure you ever felt.”
  — Chris Fleming [73:01]

• [On baths:] “I couldn’t even tell. I don’t time them. ... It’s how Pacino stayed sober.”
  — Chris Fleming [80:20/80:07]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:13 – Patreon launch and structure
• 06:12 – Beck & Kyle reminisce about SNL
• 22:12 – Chris Fleming joins; hair discussion/meeting anecdote
• 25:38 – Reaction to Chris’s HBO special
• 33:02 – Chris on “chasing” big laughs and set anxiety
• 37:37 – The “Mark C. Connor” story (name-drop in special)
• 47:24 – Early comedy memories: videos and school performances
• 57:32 – Rescuing pit bulls with landlord Simone
• 66:10 – Discussion of Drew Barrymore Show and press junkets
• 69:36 – “Histamine & Anti-Histamine” fake podcast begins
• 73:01 – The “itch-pleasure” of hot water on a rash; the joy and pain of allergies
• 80:24 – Chris’s bath obsession (“three a day if possible”)
• 85:35 – Discussion of music in film (Madonna, Billy Joel, etc.)
• 89:17 – Bath as antihistamine insight

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Flow & Tone

Throughout the episode, the hosts and guest riff naturally, blending real emotional insight (about the insecurity and vulnerability in performing) with absurd comedic tangents (e.g., “Histamine and Anti-Histamine,” school Opposite Days, and plush sausage imagery). The language remains improvisational, quick-witted, and dry, but also warm and supportive. There's a recurring sense that sharing personal stories and feelings—awkwardness, doubts, rituals—is what makes these comedy friendships meaningful.

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Conclusion

Standout Themes:

• How creative insecurity persists regardless of success
• The transformative (and hilarious) power of supportive relationships and artistic “rituals” (from baths to music)
• The collision of specificity and universality in great comedy

Final Take:
If you’re a fan of alt-comedy, the stand-up process, or simply the joys of weird, free-associative conversation, this episode is a warm, oddly therapeutic ride—just like a proper antihistamine (or a very good bath).

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Chris Fleming’s special “Live at the Palace” is available on HBO.

Transcript

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This is a Headgun podcast.

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Wow. Yay.

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Another episode of what's our Podcast. But first, a little special announcement from Becky and Kyle.

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This is very big.

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This is. It's very huge and big.

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I think this is life changing for me.

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Yeah. That's the way I feel. As long as it goes well.

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Well, even if it doesn't, it is altering my life.

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Yeah, it already has.

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The big announcement is we are starting a patreon.

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Yes. You're saying to yourself, oh, yes, it was.

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You know, it was a risk. It was a swing to even start a podcast together back.

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Yes, it was.

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We didn't know what it is. We still are finding out what it is every single week when we come together with our guests. And when you and I sort of

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mess around on the microphone, let's tell them what it is. For the first tier, Rocco, Basic tier.

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It's five bucks a month. You're gonna get a bonus episode every week. No guest. Okay. It's just Beck and I doing what we've been doing Since September of 2003 when we first met each other.

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For that tier, we have slopping out, which is just the two of us hanging out.

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It's like our intro to our show.

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Yeah. But it's longer. We can go into bits longer. We can also be earnest.

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Learn about each other's lives.

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Yes. Catch up for longer. Or we also have what's yous Podcast, where we take ideas from our Patreon members.

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Yes.

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At a certain tier, at the $10 tier, which is the next tier. We take your ideas and we try that podcast out. Right, but you can pitch those ideas at the $10 tier.

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Yes. Once you get to the $10 tier, premium rock, which we're calling Rocco Premium.

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Rocco Premium.

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That's where you actually get to pitch the ideas that we will do on our podcast. You're also gonna get access to an exclusive chat. A chat room.

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Yes.

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The Discord. The Rocco Discord, where you can talk with other fans, other listeners. Probably kind of do your own little bits. Make some friends. Maybe. Maybe you can grab. Grab dinner or coffee with one of them sometime.

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Also with the $10 tier, you get access to. You get to see our. What we're calling our sillies. Yes.

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These are little videos. You know, we came up making videos together. Full circle. Because now you and I are just gonna make a little video we already started. Get a little iPhone, make a little video, play some characters, do some bits.

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Just come up with an idea and pop it right off and just shoot it.

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Yeah.

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We don't need to labor over it.

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Yeah, exactly. We just kind of have fun and pump it out to our Rocco's. You know what I mean?

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I know exactly what you mean. I love it.

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Yes.

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For 15 bucks, you get all that stuff, plus you get free access to our new ticketed live stream. So, like, we will talk to you directly. You can ask us questions. We'll be doing these quarterly throughout the year.

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We might do poppers there. We don't know yet. It's only going to be legal stuff, but we're going to have fun to do poppers. Yes. And here's the thing for Rocket supreme. If you sign up for a full year, you'll get a side headshot of me and Kyle. We don't know, but it's going to be an amazing family heirloom that you get and you can, you know, frame it and put above the fireplace or something or something like that.

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It is really going to be fun. I think it's going to be a place to see some really weird, wild and crazy stuff where we just get

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to do whatever we want without really caring. So. Yeah. So go to patreon.com what's our podcast and join today, please.

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That's patreon.com what's our Podcast? And be in the Rocco Club with all your fellow Roccos.

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What's our podcast? What's it gonna be all about? Tell us what's our podcast. What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? Shall we start the show, get it going with a little ho ho ho?

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Shall we start the show?

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Get it going with a ho ho

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ho ho ho ho.

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It's time to start the show oh, don't you know it's time to start the show.

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There we are. Oh, yo, Savino. But I.

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You don't know what it is don't know what it feels.

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A part the show when you watch

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it, then you know that it's together.

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They are doing the show whether you like it.

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All that was perfect. Thank you, Rochelle.

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You guys write that?

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Yes.

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I feel like Kurt Cobain and Beck Bennett wrote that together.

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Yes, we did, actually. He got all the cred. It's so good. He's so good. He came before me. That was kind of.

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You have been on one lately. Oh, really?

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What do you mean?

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What do you mean?

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Like, oh, no, I'm on the spot. What do you mean? I've been on one.

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I just feel like you're always, like, kind of. It just feels like you're on edge or something.

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No, no, no. I'm comfortable. You absolute bastard. No, I'm. I've never been more comfortable in my life.

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I believe that.

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Actually. I was kind of saying that as a joke, but it's. It is. I think that hopefully that's true for a lot of people, that you just get more and more comfortable just in life. Yeah. I mean, there. There's always ups and downs, don't get me wrong. But I. I feel like I've been seeing, like, clips of people on podcasts. Like, ours being like, my 40s are. Have been my favorite, or people in their 50s being like, this has been the best, you know, decade for me in my 50s. I think probably when the health stuff kicks in. Right. Maybe later it gets gets a little rougher, but. But it is nice. I do.

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I think 30s were tighter for me

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or tighter for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know, to be honest. I mean, there was a lot. I feel like there was a lot of.

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There are a lot of things that I. That I don't miss about that era of, like, being that age. But.

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Yeah, but, yeah, it was pretty tight. Yeah. Yeah.

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We were in New York City, remember, dude?

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Yeah, I remember. Yeah. On the old show.

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Remember when we got on snl.

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Yeah.

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That was so special. And the fact that we had known each other, that we got on the show together. I thought. I was thinking about that recently. I was like, that doesn't always happen.

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No, it's not. Usually people get on that show and they're just by themselves.

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Yeah, well, there's always a cast. There's always cast. So they're not there by themselves.

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No. But you, like, don't get on with your friend from college necessarily.

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Sure. Yeah, I guess that's a decent point.

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Yeah. I mean. I mean, I don't. I'm not like, a historian of the show. Show. So I don't know, like, every situation.

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But yeah, there have been. Yeah, it's been a really.

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Yeah. Lauren Michaels. So I don't.

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Yes. Yeah. Actually, I do believe that's yes.

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Yeah.

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And I remember when they start when Lonely island did the digital shorts.

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Yeah. That's cool. I know. I know you remember that I used

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to fast forward to the digital shorts, so.

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Sorry. Yeah, the digital shorts were cool and still are cool.

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Absolutely. You know, it isn't cool.

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What?

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Bullies?

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Yeah.

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People who think that they're better than you.

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That's exactly where I was gonna go. Bullies can take a hike and eat my shorts. I said it. Bullies can take a hike and eat my shorts.

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I. This is. That's really cool because, like, I've. I'm. I. Like, I've known Beck for a long time, and I know when he's adamant about something.

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Yep.

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When something means a lot to him. And if I'm looking at you right now and I feel like I've seen my best friend turn into somebody, turn into the person that I've always wanted him to become.

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Thank you. Thank you. I agree with you. Thank you so much for saying that.

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No, well, I'm not you saying thank you like I'm doing you a favor. Like, you're doing the world a favor. It's really cool.

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That's nice. It's nice to hear you say that. I am kind of now going to, like. Oh. So up until this point, like, I haven't been the person that you want.

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I've loved every version of you.

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Yeah.

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I've loved every version, but this is

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the version me saying, I. I want bullies to take a hike and they can eat my shorts. That's the version of me that you.

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I think that they're. I love you. I don't want to hurt your feelings.

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No, I love you, too.

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You know what'll stay in the.

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In the podcast, in the, like, edit here. Yeah.

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But I do think people have been waiting for, like, people in our lives.

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Yeah.

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We love you. We always have. And, like, if you didn't change, we would still love you because you're our back.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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That's really sweet, but I think this

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was, like, kind of the step that a lot of us. And I'm talking about some of our friends, I think even.

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Even the ones that I'm.

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That.

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That I've hooked up with or even

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the ones that you've hooked up with. When I talk to them, they're like, they were hoping that you would sort of take a stance finally.

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Well, this feels really good.

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Great.

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Yeah. I think that it's really. It's really nice to. To be here.

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Yeah, it's really nice. It is really nice to be here.

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Yeah.

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And here, by the way, is what's our podcast? Oh, yeah. With Beck Bennett and Kyle Goggles Mooney.

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Kyle Goggles Mooney is here.

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The podcast where we bring on some weirdo off the street and have them put a show on for us.

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Yeah.

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I've been having so much fun with you on the Patreon.

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Yes. I've been having fun with you on the Patreon, too. We've been goofing and letting ourselves go.

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Yes.

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Yeah. I've got ideas for the Patreon too.

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I was about to say I sent text to Bec. I sent a text. A text.

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You sent back a text.

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Sometimes my brain is like, flip flopping. I'm in. I've gone through the mirror. I'm, you know, like Alice, you know, I'm. I'm flip flopped. You know what? It's opposite day.

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Do you remember?

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And does anybody here remember opposite days at school? Did you ever do that?

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Huh? Yes.

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Why are you nervous?

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I'm not nervous. I just don't know where you're going with it. Yes, I did. Opposite Day. I mean, I don't think it was a school sanctioned thing ever.

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Why are you nervous about talking about opposite things?

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This makes me uncomfortable. It's like going through the looking glass or whatever. The Alice in Wonderland thing.

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What do you. But I don't understand what that.

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I just didn't want to go through. I didn't want to go through the looking glass. I don't want to go through the mirror.

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You don't. You don't like the idea of presenting a mirrored version of yourself?

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Yeah, I don't want to be all mixed up for the rest of the day.

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Okay, well, we don't. I was just sort of asking if you remembered it.

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Yeah.

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And Rochelle, did you ever have an opposite day? Not really. Yeah, I mean, sometimes people would say something mean and say, haha, it's opposite day.

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That's what I'm referring to as well. Did you have full opposite days at your school where there might not have been.

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There's only twin days.

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Okay. Where you could dress up like your friend. I don't think we have.

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You'd call up your friend and be like, so wear red shirts backwards. Boston Red Sox cap, and do you still have your Reebok pumps?

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Wow.

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And then you guys would dress, walk around like twins.

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That's cool.

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I feel like an opposite day. H. Like that they did something like that. But I can't imagine what. What the opposite like out. But you're right. Maybe I'm just thinking of, like.

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I feel like.

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Like you're cool. It's opposite Day. Maybe I'm just thinking of that.

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Maybe I think so. Because I think if you. If you invite that A sanctioned opposite

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day as underwear on top of your pants.

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Yeah. And it'd be like, I'm the teacher, you're not the teacher. Or like, you know what I mean? Like, you're just inviting the kids to flip the script on the whole school and be like, well, it's Opposite Day. I can't listen to you.

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Yeah.

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You know, that'd be crazy.

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That would be. That is a dream come true.

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That is a movie. That's a movie. Opposite Day. And it's like special effects. Yep. Or it's like the Purge, you know, but it's Opposite Day. Okay. And it's a genre. It's like a violin. And it's like. It's Opposite Day. And you like. Like the trailer is like shots of the hallways. And it's like.

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Okay.

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It's like, you know, it's like attention teachers and students. And then it's like a student doing it instead of the.

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On the PA system. Okay. I'm seeing it.

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And then, like. And then like, where the. Where you're. Where your head. Where your head is supposed to be. It's like. It's like your butt and your butt is talking, but it's like, this is a.

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It's like a horror movie.

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Yeah. It's the opposite, though.

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Good ass. Good ass idea. Want to see it made? Think. My friend is always coming up with brilliant. Actually stood up for people who are being put down, which I think is amazing.

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And.

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And for once, you're actually, like, kind of, I think, bringing it on the podcast.

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Thanks, Four Eyes. I really appreciate that.

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I did not mean that.

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What?

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For once, you're really.

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No, I know. I told. And. And I didn't mean to call you Four Eyes.

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It's hard. It's hard to sometimes do playful insults. Do what?

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I mean. Yes, it is. Yeah.

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Like, you don't know what. Like you want to get the. I want to get the idea across that I'm about to insult you, but I also don't want it to be insulting, you know?

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Right. Right. No, you can't. You can't hurt me, brother. You can't. You can't believe that.

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I know. I guess you just said that you're, like having the time of your life.

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No, no, I. Sometimes I am, sometimes I'm not. There's. There's ups and downs all. All around.

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There was really something. Oh, I was. I want to. Yeah. Here's a question I have for you.

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Okay.

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Blowing bubbles with my daughter yesterday.

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That's not a question.

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Am I allowed to keep on talking or is. Or the. Are the Beck Troopers gonna stop me from continuing my thought? Beck Troopers. They're everywhere. Get used to it. A poster in the background. The Beck Troopers are watching. We. We pledge allegiance to the Beck Troopers. We must follow their every word. Yes, we are back. Yes, we are.

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Back.

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Okay.

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So you know about the Beck troopers and you found out about Beck troopers.

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We were blowing bubbles inside the house and the bubbles hit the rug.

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Oh.

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Do you think it's better?

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Mm.

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Now, bubbles are made of soap, right?

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That's right. Bubbles is soap.

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It's probably. Probably bubbles on the rug are better than no bubbles on the rug.

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Yeah. You're cleaning your rug. Maybe you should tell your daughter that. That you're just cleaning the house when you blow bubbles inside.

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But is this something that we can market?

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I think so. I think that's actually a good idea. You know, they like. Yeah, cleaning bubbles.

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Clean your rug. Clean your rug. Blow some bubbles.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay, that's. That's interesting.

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Anything else you want to get off. Get off your chest?

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I feel like I did have something to say to you.

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Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

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What to say to Kyle.

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The Beck troopers are watching.

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Oh, my God. No. Dude.

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Okay. Weirdest voice you can come up with. Three, two, one, go.

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All right.

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Weirdest voice you could come up with. 3, 2, 1, go.

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I don't know anymore.

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That was great.

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Okay.

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No, no, no, no, no. Please don't do it again. Please don't do it again.

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Did I say about the. Did I say what's been happening behind the. At the Patreon?

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No, probably not.

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You go to patreon.com what's our podcast? And it's like a beautiful website or the team set it up. We have got some pictures of Beck and I. And then you got these different tiers to choose from.

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Yeah.

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$5 a month, $10 a month, and $15 a month. And Beck and I have been doing shows over at the Patreon that aren't these shows. They're not the main feed shows, but they allow us to sometimes riff and get a little weird.

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Yeah.

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And I also do podcasts based on ideas from. From the. The members of the Patreon. And it's been.

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And little sketches.

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We've been doing our sillies. We've been doing songs.

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Yeah.

[B]

And I've been thinking about. We. I told Beck. I texted him. Oh, that's. Did I say this?

[C]

No, I think I. You were. You text me. I have some ideas.

[B]

Yeah. And like, I got some ideas.

[C]

I got some ideas too.

[B]

I got some big ideas.

[C]

I've got some medium sized ones.

[B]

I got some very small ideas too.

[C]

Okay, great. I think that's great. But they don't. If. If there's. There's not room for only big. If it's all big ideas. It's like we don't have room for so many big ideas. We need some little ideas to fit in there, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Well, I guess I don't remember what I wanted to ask you.

[B]

Then I guess you. Then I guess he's been punished with another weird voice.

[C]

Oh, boy. Here we go.

[B]

In 3, 2, 1.

[C]

I didn't know I was supposed to do that.

[B]

Kyle.

[C]

What's that? What's that look?

[B]

What's the. I don't know. All of a sudden, all that talk about, like, the guy who's standing up against bullies, I'm like, oh, actually, he hasn't changed at all.

[C]

Yeah, that's true. I was messing with you.

[B]

Hey, you were bullying me.

[C]

I was bullying you. I called you four eyes. Let's get into this.

[B]

We got a great guest.

[C]

We got a great guest. I respect him so much. I don't know about you. Chris Fleming is coming here to talk to us.

[B]

Got a new special out.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And it's incredible. It's very funny. I think it's called Live at the Palace.

[C]

Live at the palace on hbo.

[B]

If you're a listener or. Or if you're watching this on YouTube, please keep on watching. Listening. Becca and I have decided to do four more years of the podcast.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

We're going to keep on doing it. After that fourth year, we're going to decide if we should do the. It gets, I don't know, exponential, incremental. Like if we finish the four year run, then we're going to do a ten year run and then one more ten year run and then after that it would be a full 22 years.

[C]

Yes, but we need people to keep listening and keep sharing with their friends.

[B]

Share the clips, share the episodes, talk about it. Like I said, this run will take us four years from now. So that's 2030. And then if we've built a big enough following, we will spend the next 42 years doing the podcast.

[C]

Yes, that's correct. Yes. So check it out.

[B]

Yeah, it's called what's our Podcast?

[C]

Yeah, keep. This is it. This is. You're listening to it, you're watching it. So let's bring on the great Chris Fleming.

[B]

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[C]

I was not interested in your offerings. I think I said this, these are. This is not Squarespace. This is Kyle space. And I think I'm all good on that. But Squarespace has been really good to us here at what's our.

[B]

I always talk about the time we had Finn Wolfhard on here and we did our squares raise out our website. What's our podcast.com?

[C]

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[B]

The hidden fees. You know who does that?

[C]

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[B]

What's your dream domain?

[C]

I was just going to ask you the same.

[B]

Mine is threepenises.com.

[C]

i was going to say. Mine is opennutsack.com threepenises.com.

[B]

mm.

[C]

I have questions.

[A]

You'll.

[B]

You'll have to find out later.

[C]

My question is, can I be a VIP user on 3penises.com? Foreign.

[B]

It's not. It's not. It's spelled differently than what you think.

[C]

Okay, well, Regardless, check out squarespace.com instead

[B]

of P E N I S. It's P E E N I S Because they're penises that are made to pee. Penis. It's not. Not spelled the normal way. They're penises that actually pee.

[C]

Thank you, master. These penises aren't like, oh, penises are made to pee. You don't need to spell it differently. All penises. What are you saying?

[B]

You're spit.

[C]

Your penis was not made to pee.

[B]

I have a normal penis. I don't have one that can.

[C]

So you spell that P E, N I S. You don't need this one.

[B]

These ones are for penises that can pee.

[C]

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[B]

No. See? A penis.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

And we don't have to do headphones. I love that.

[C]

Yeah, we just don't do them. I think it's probably worse for our listeners, but when I.

[A]

Whenever I put them on, I start trying to sound sexy.

[C]

You're like, oh, yeah, I'm sounding like this a little bit. Yeah. And it takes me out of it completely.

[A]

You start. You start thinking about your. Everyone starts thinking about how they sound.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. Instead of what they're saying.

[B]

And also, I feel like you and I probably have to deal with the sort of, like, the mane. Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And you ever get hair in there from. You ever get this in, shoved in?

[B]

I'm. I'm sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I guess I'm not always.

[A]

We have the same exact hair.

[C]

You guys do really have similar hair.

[B]

Should we. Should we swear? I mean, you have.

[C]

You have bangs and Kyle doesn't. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is that the only difference?

[C]

Our curl patterns are curl patterns, and the length is.

[A]

I'm looking, like, Exactly.

[C]

Come on, let's get this together.

[A]

No, no. You have more Shirley Temples happening. You have better curls.

[C]

Tighter curls.

[B]

Okay, well, let's get into. I was gonna say, should we open up the episode with Chris sitting next to you as if I'm.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Kyle. So we could try that. I feel like this is a perfect way to open it as you guys talking about your curls.

[A]

I don't know why I've never put this together.

[B]

I put it together. I, I, I was. I was watching your incredible special as I promised you I would do. I ran in the middle of the street. Yes, we were.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Chris was flying by, as.

[C]

I'm sure.

[B]

I didn't know you drive a truck.

[A]

I was. It was. It's a. It's a Broncos sport.

[C]

Oh. One of, like, the new ones.

[A]

It's a 2022.

[C]

Okay. That's nice. The Broncos are coming back.

[A]

Would be funny if I was in it.

[B]

This is a. I swear I saw, like, a flatbed truck flying by.

[A]

I was flying. Yeah, I was flying.

[C]

So you're. You're walking on the street.

[A]

He's. Kyle is exiting. I believe it's true.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you're driving for context. Put some. Put some court. Put some money in the meter.

[C]

Oh, yeah, sure, sure.

[A]

You wanted to keep the party going,

[C]

so you were still going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

[B]

And I got. And I. And I love their cheeseburger.

[C]

And their fried cheeseburger is great. They're great.

[B]

But yes, I was running to. This is the type of story that, like, it's like, I thought I would probably end up talking about the fact that we've recently run into each other, but there's no way this is interesting for anyone. No, it is.

[C]

It is. I don't know. Like, this is a piece of.

[B]

This is Hollywood life.

[A]

I see what it's like here vividly, because I usually don't. If I see something in the wild, I usually don't say anything about it. I'm like a little. I'm like a little crab on the bottom of the sea floor.

[C]

You don't interact with the person. You're like, I know that person. We could have a nice exchange, but I'm gonna let them live it up.

[A]

For some reason, I was like, I'm gonna say hi to Kyle.

[C]

Maybe it's cause of the lookalike thing. Yeah. Maybe you're like, that's me.

[A]

I was drawn to my own pattern, and I think I said hi. And then Kyle very graciously owned up to not seeing my special. Had been out maybe 24 hours.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, it just came out.

[A]

Which I believe you have a full two years to watch something because you. You guys know so many people who are putting shit out. There's no way to stay.

[C]

There's no way to. Yeah.

[A]

So the fact that you even watched it at all, or even I did

[C]

too, and loved it. Yes.

[A]

Thank you, guys.

[C]

Yeah, I think you didn't have to do that. No, no, no, no, we didn't.

[B]

I was psyched to. And, like, when it came out, I don't know, I was like, one. I. I love you. I love your work and same. We've been able to cross paths a few times. I can't say that. We've, like, gotten to spend a ton of time together, which I don't know who's blame or that, but you got it.

[C]

You can only blame yourself.

[B]

Just if I feel like. And. And I. I feel like you're having a moment right now. That's the way it feels to me. And like, the truth and that mo. When I saw you, I was like, I have to. Even before I had seen you, I was like, I gotta see Chris's special. Like, it feels. It's like it's. Something's happening.

[C]

It's an important thing to watch. If you're in comedy, you should watch it.

[A]

I think it could just be that I've hired a publicist.

[C]

Oh, yeah, sure. That's what you do.

[A]

I think when someone has a. I think it's just that. I really think it's just that.

[C]

I don't know, but I think that's the shift. Yeah. A lot. A lot of the things that I initially saw about your special were just, like. Were definitely not publicist moves. Just people online being like, okay, this is different. This is new. This is great. And I. I saw your previous special as well, so. Yeah. Because damn, my. I think I knew about you a little bit, but, like, Jen. I'm friends with Jen Statsky, who produced it, and that brought me into it and loved it.

[A]

We met at a hacks event.

[C]

We did. Did we meet Guy?

[A]

Brandon was doing, like, a social experiment with us.

[C]

That's where we met.

[A]

Guy was. Guy was interviewing us about something off camera. There was no camera, but it was a very. It was a pleasant presentation.

[C]

He was talking. It was. It was like some sort of a gay thing that I was like, I was the only straight person. I was like, I can't really comment on this, but he's like, this is how, like, I want to do a Guy Brown. This guy. This is not a very good impression.

[A]

And he will like a town crier and. Okay. And then have a decree. And then he'll. And then he'll vanish.

[B]

This is just like you're talking about. Mid party.

[A]

Mid party.

[C]

He was like, what's your gay thing? Or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Or like, what's he. It was maybe asking me what's the gayest thing that I. About me? Or something like. Yeah, I try. I feel like I said something. He was like, oh, my God, that's nothing.

[A]

And he took off. Yeah.

[C]

And then.

[A]

And then he was back when I were then alone.

[B]

And then you're stuck and we're like,

[A]

it's nice to meet you. I'm Chris. That's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, I've admired you. So was that afar for a long time?

[C]

Oh, thank you.

[B]

Was that a gift, though? In the moment? Are you happy? Was it afterwards? You're like, fuck. I got stuck in this situation. What was the aftermath?

[A]

You know, it's. It's always nice to have an eccentric introduction.

[C]

Yes, absolutely.

[A]

I think it's always in the same way that, like, trauma bonding is nice.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or connected.

[C]

So much better than, like, a boring, like, oh, you guys shouldn't meet each other, right? Oh, hey, yeah. Nice to meet you. You Know, it's like we have an event to.

[A]

For someone to fall on that sword. Like, can you believe that just happened?

[B]

Right.

[A]

That's always my favorite.

[C]

I remember it was shortly, I think, after I had done a show, I was doing some music stuff with, like, a headpiece.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

And you walked by.

[A]

You had an AV cart.

[C]

Yes, I had an aviation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you walked by. You're like, it's very funny. The headpiece. I was like, oh, whoa. Thank you. Like, I guess that was after we met.

[A]

But you were opening for Carmen.

[C]

Yes, Christopher.

[A]

And you were doing, like, a wholesome rap of some kind.

[C]

I was doing these songs. These short songs. Yeah. They might have been great. Oh, thank you.

[A]

Well, you were doing all sorts of shit.

[C]

Well, I was doing a pedal to, like, distort my voice and stuff. Yeah. Kind of talking in between.

[A]

Did you ever do that again?

[C]

I've done it a little bit here and there, but I've just. I want to do it again. I did, like, a show before the Pandemic Dynasty typewriter, and then, like, everything

[A]

happened, and a challenging room.

[C]

Challenging room. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm gonna bring it back. But the point is, I was very flattered that you. One of our incredible standup comics of this time.

[A]

Well, thank you.

[C]

Would seem. Because I think my insecurity of me being on stage by myself, not doing characters, not doing sketch or whatever, I'm still very insecure about it and working on it. So. Thank you. I mean, that was very flat. It was a very flattering moment to me.

[A]

To even think that you would have performance insecurity at all is. It's tough to imagine.

[C]

Yeah. Right. I mean, I, I.

[A]

You guys are, like, ironclad. I would think that you would be you.

[C]

It never goes away. It never goes away. I think that's part of the creative beast. Cuz, like, we'll. We'll bring people on. Like, you know that we are so decades ahead of us, have incredible bodies of work, have done so many things, and they're like, yeah, I still get it. I still doing something slightly new. And they're like, of course.

[A]

Especially after you do a special and you have zero material.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you feel, like, completely exposed or you re.

[C]

Yeah. You reach some height publicly, where it's like, there's a public opinion that you might be funny, and then you're trying something new that you haven't done. That is what's scary.

[A]

Yeah. Because you have to.

[C]

Yeah, you have to.

[A]

Yeah. And then you. Oh, God. And also the more you like, the more you're in like a press circle, the further you get from the creative of it. And then you're just completely fud.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. You're just kind of like maintaining this thing.

[A]

You're like you said.

[C]

Yeah, you're. It's your full politician.

[A]

You feel like Elizabeth Warren. I'm Elizabeth. I've been Elizabeth Warren for about a month.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

A manic Elizabeth Warren.

[C]

Have you had to deal with this? I'm sure you haven't had to deal with this level of press before. Oh, never. Never. Right.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

And so how are you handling it?

[A]

Because you. Not well. I met a zero.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I'm seeing the clips coming.

[C]

I've seen you on Seth making him.

[A]

That was fun. That was fun. Because that's like a cool cousin.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You're like, oh, oh. You feel like you get like 10 minutes with my cool older cousin.

[C]

Totally.

[B]

Now is that. I know you guys spoke about it and I'm sorry, I don't fully remember the exchange.

[A]

That's okay, Kyle.

[B]

No, I work you up.

[C]

You already it up.

[B]

You don't remember.

[C]

You don't remember the whole what, nine minute segment from Seth.

[B]

And and also if you don't, don't. If you don't feel like revealing this fully, fine. But you mentioned Seth a handful of times.

[C]

What an immediate thing I was gonna say with Kyle's gonna go.

[A]

My heart dropped.

[B]

Pass that to two guests. And now. And I'm.

[C]

Yeah, you're the how long guy.

[B]

How long?

[A]

How long is it?

[C]

How long?

[A]

Okay, I like not how big. How long, how long?

[B]

Seriously? I mean.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you. Do you mind telling us what the size of your pizza.

[C]

No, ask the person.

[B]

Seth comes up in your special a handful of times. You're in Chicago during the special.

[A]

That's the thing. So I get these touretic things in different cities where I can't stop thinking about. I truly was like, don't talk about Seth Meyers. Don't talk about.

[C]

You say that in the special. But is that true? You were trying not to talk about him.

[A]

I literally was telling people I'm gonna. Anytime I go to Chicago, I think about. I. I do bits about Lorne Michaels hiding in the rafters to scout talent. Or I think about Seth. I think for some reason I'm always talking about. Or like, or like, oh, you're mad I'm not Amy Poehler, stuff like that.

[C]

Right, right.

[A]

And I just couldn't stop talking about Seth.

[B]

So that was that Truly was A one off. Like it's not.

[A]

Yeah, no, no. I'd never be. Stuff I was doing in every state.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And we'll continue to.

[C]

Great.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

Well, that was also another clip that made the rounds that I loved seeing you and you and Mike talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is the.

[A]

Or he held me out to dry.

[B]

Did he?

[A]

Oh, I mean, Mike's the. It was. What was that movie?

[B]

He's overrated, right? What was that movie?

[A]

The Assassination of Jesse James. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was that. That's what I kept thinking.

[B]

I'm. I actually do want to ask you though some very generic basic questions about your work. What is, what is your proportion of like. Yeah. Pre planned written to ad lib.

[A]

I get really emotion when I get emotional. I mean, you can tell when something

[B]

like is of the moment.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the special, like, I get really. I have this like impossible quota in my head of like, like a laugh decibel. And it's. It's truly the most unwell thing about me where like I'm trying to. If I'm not getting like a certain high laugh, then I like completely freak out and then I listen to it back afterwards and I'm like, what was I. Why? It was fine.

[B]

Yeah, of course. Yeah.

[A]

So that stuff I get kind of like.

[C]

So you kind of just like, you. You start putting out more. You start being like trying more stuff.

[A]

Your body's just start berating. I think in the special several times I like, I get. I get upset that the audience isn't laughing.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, you do. Yeah. You at least like, you like fully rewind a bit to do it again.

[A]

Yeah. And we kept it. We kept it. Yeah, we kept. So I don't know the percentage of. If you're doing like an hour in a theater, like there has to be a lot of stuff that you're doing just for that space.

[B]

I also would imagine that allows it to feel alive in a specific. Which is necessary.

[A]

It can die really easily. It can get really stale. I don't like getting cute with it at all. So I like stuff kind of even like changing things. Like that week you need to. I was writing a lot of new stuff that week, trying out the night before and then. And then hopefully. Because in your eyes. I don't like when you can see in the comics eyes that they. When they know it's gonna work.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Your character.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, sure, sure. Here it comes. Right, right. Like it's like get ready.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It's humiliating.

[B]

I Also, again, this is. I. I don't want to play, like, kind of the comedy detective. Oh, you can play what I love about. What I love about the Special. And your work is that, like, I do think you're, like, kind of. I'm articulating this in the moment, so I might up. But, like, you are sort of playing to the highest common denominator. Like, you're using references that I don't necessarily think are incredibly broad. Right.

[C]

No.

[B]

So you're, like, talking to the audience. Like, we're all on the same page. And I'm kind of surprised that the audience is, like, laughing so uproariously to what I think is, like. That's kind of a specific reference that I think is very hilarious.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. That's what my director, Bill, said. He was like, the first time I saw your stuff, I was like, surely I'm the only person that could. That could think this is funny.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And I think that that's. I. I think it's also like, if. If you feel. If you. If you know some. If you feel like the reference is the funny thing and you can say, you can communicate it in a certain way, even if they don't know the.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I think there's like a Feel, a somatic thing of like, I bet that's funny.

[C]

Right. And I could also imagine that your audience, like, I mean, your audience is maybe a specific audience. I don't know. Maybe you're appealing to a very broad audience, but, like, your audience knows what you know.

[A]

I think we. I think we have a lot of overlap.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I also have. I recently have realized that. I think I have, like, a pre. Operational issue like that you see in, like, Young Children, where I think every. I think everyone has experienced what I've experienced. And so I think if I reference this thing, it's like, well, I saw that, so you must have seen that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, even, like, I'm. I wish I could just pull all of them out of my head right now. But you're the Terry Gross bit with Adam Driver, like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Going so hard into the Sondheim of it all. Like, for some reason like that. What is a pretty specific scene in Marriage Story?

[A]

Oh, it's very quick. It's very brutal.

[C]

The scene is brutal.

[A]

The scene is rough, and he's, like, breathing into the mic a lot. And we were using the Being alive at the recording, but then we found out that, like, obviously Sondheim, the estate, wasn't gonna allow that, so we had to rerecord we had to record a fake song.

[B]

And Mark C. Connor, how is this person?

[C]

Yeah, that's what I wanna ask about.

[A]

He reached out.

[C]

Mark C. Conner.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You didn't check. Yeah. Provide some context.

[B]

There's a moment in the university you went to.

[C]

Yes. And you have him in your special.

[B]

Pretty.

[C]

You put up a photo of him that I would imagine is his president of the university headshot.

[A]

It's the Google image when it comes

[C]

up and his name next to it.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So you didn't check to get approval to use his name and show his photo in the approval and the special.

[A]

And we were imagining how much that will fuck with his sense of reality. Just tuning into something and seeing himself mentioned in this.

[C]

Yeah. And I thought like oh I hope it's okay, maybe maybe you're gonna get in trouble. But also for this guy, if he's able to take a second like this is probably the best thing that's ever happened to him. Like everybody like K on campus are gonna be calling him C and being like, you're awesome.

[A]

He signed his email to me C. Really? And he was like next time you're in Saratoga, sushi and appletinis are on me C. And I heard that he actually dropped in the special. I'm trying to encourage him to drop the C in the middle name cause it's really clunky.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's basically a five minute bit about that.

[C]

Yes. Yeah.

[A]

And he supposedly in the latest mass email to the college he did, did in fact drop the C. And he's going by Mark Connor which actually makes me feel a little bad.

[C]

Yeah, well you know maybe he's wanted to his whole life and all he needed was a little, just a little push.

[B]

Now you must, you must feel like the chances are decent that there this is gonna have some sort of real world blowback response.

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.

[B]

Is that frightening or is it like. I mean. And I don't think it did anything malicious by any.

[C]

Yeah, no it's.

[A]

But like mostly people when I speak about them either, either they, when I hear from them it's usually like excitement.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think the ones that don't like it, I don't hear from rare. So I think that allows me to keep doing it and. Yeah. And the boy that I mentioned in Hat Sational like in the store in Saratoga, he, he and I I think are doing an event together at Hat sational this summer and hational even though I called them like psychopaths and everything and like bad people like They're. They're still really excited about it.

[C]

That's so great. I mean, you do. You don't hold back. You, like, will say things about people, commenting on them or whatever that is. Like. Oh, like, I remember the first clip seeing where you talk about Colin Jost.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I never heard from him.

[C]

Never heard from him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, you know, you do it in. In such a fun, like, playful way. I mean, it is. It is different than actually taking shots at people and being like, this is stupid and this is bad. Which is great because, like, you should be able to, like, you know, comment on these social things without being, like, mean or trying to take them down, which is really refreshing.

[A]

I appreciate that. Yeah, it's. It's definitely talking some shit.

[C]

Yes. But it's also, like, what's the big. Like, you can still, like, the person.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Still have some respect for them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm having this done in the moment, but, like, that is cool because, like, that is what, like, text threads are. You know what I mean? You're like. It's like inside you're talking.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Or in the car after an event.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, it's just.

[C]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's great. It does have that. That nature to it. You're, like, fucking around with your friends in your special. In your standup. Like, you're just going. I mean, like, that's the other thing I wanted to go back to. Like, it is so physical, obviously.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, it makes sense that you would feel like a lower decibel of laughter and just that your body would just.

[A]

Ringing in my ear also from the things that I'm doing sometimes from the Verdict, because I. Yeah. So I'm doing a lot of whipping around and, like. And when you're hurting yourself on stage, also, it is. That is also a really crazy thing to be like in. There was a show in Atlanta I did where I. I was trying to do this thing I saw Ice Cube do where I was, like, leaning, and I think I fucked up my acl, so I had to do a lot of the show lying down, but they thought it was. I think they thought it was part of it.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And did you. What was Ice Cube doing?

[C]

Yeah. Well, you don't have to. I don't want you to do.

[A]

I'm not going to do.

[C]

I was about to do the thing.

[A]

It was the beginning of him doing the Crip walk.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But it was him. He was just entering the stage and his legs were here, but his torso was so far back. And I was really cocky. It was something I saw in Kaza. I wasn't explaining. No, no, no.

[B]

I wasn't explaining. Are you explaining to the audience that, like, I'm about to do something Ice Cubed in?

[A]

No, no, not even.

[B]

It's for yourself.

[A]

I tapped into it. It was a clip I saw in 2006 that I got off Kaza, and it was Ice Cube entering and the crowd was so hot that I was feeling cocky and I was in a good outfit and then just. I tweaked it.

[B]

Going into the recesses of your mind, like, I gotta pull out that Ice Cube seawalk. And you do mention the seawalk, though.

[A]

I do the seawalk at least twice and it's not as smooth as it was in my head. I thought I was doing like Sabrina Williams style. Remember when she whipped it out? Oh, on the Super Bowl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

On a porch or something.

[C]

Yeah, the Kendrick.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yes. Halftime show.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yes. Yeah.

[B]

You walk out a moment for sure.

[C]

Yeah, it's a. What kind of moment?

[B]

I said it had a moment.

[C]

Yeah, it really did. Really?

[B]

I mean, like in. I gotta say.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm from San Diego and like a community called Scripps Ranch, which is like, you know, up class.

[C]

Scripps Ranch.

[B]

Scripps Ranch, yeah, Scripps Ranch.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

But they. But, but like in circa 2002, 2003. I mean, it's like mostly white people and like seeing the like 15 year old, 16 year olds, like learning the Crip walk, it is like so demented

[A]

to think it's completely demonic.

[B]

Let me see. I don't know. I could do that part. Is that something that happened?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's. That's kind of the frosting on the cake.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. You gotta be able to do the

[A]

Crip walk to do that part, if you can do. And I'm not. I'm not doing it well at all. And I think it is a call to arms against the Bloods, right?

[C]

Oh, I don't know. This.

[B]

It's definitely something that I feel like I'm nervous to say on this podcast. Absolutely.

[C]

Oh, it's kind of like we're about to go do something.

[A]

Well, I think it's a call to arms for the Crips. And so I think inherently it is Anti Bloods.

[B]

You're big into Kaza. That was your sort of file sharing program of.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I came. Napster was. Was fast, but that was just. I loved Napster. Even. Just saying Napster just. Yeah, I mean, what is Love by Hataway? I got that off there.

[B]

Is it like I'm gonna say the most? Is it like Napster? I feel like that began. That's. That started.

[C]

That was the first streamer.

[A]

It was the beginning.

[B]

That was sort of like the end of an era.

[A]

And it was only. It was like six months. It was. It was this incredible El Dorado time.

[C]

Yeah. Just get as much as you could, download it on it, burn it onto a cd, grab it. Yeah.

[A]

Were you guys in high school? I was in middle school.

[B]

Yeah, I was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I was. We were probably freshmen.

[C]

Yeah, freshmen.

[A]

When you go into. When do we graduate?

[B]

Oh, three.

[C]

Oh, three.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

What about you?

[A]

You graduated high school three?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I graduate.05. So you're just. When people are more accomplished than me, I think they're much older than me. You're not even that much older than me.

[C]

When people are taller than me, I think they're much more, much older than, like, oh, you must have graduated.

[A]

We have a lot of misunderstandings about age.

[B]

We probably have a lot of overlap in terms of references.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you see Wild, Wild west in the theaters?

[A]

I saw Men in Black in theaters.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[A]

And I think the steampunk of Wild, Wild West. I think I said, you know what? I'm gonna wait till this is released.

[C]

I think what was big for me in theaters, in high school was like, this might not all be right, but like, Zoolander. Something about Mary. American Pie.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Requiem for a Dream. You got. You got classic high school touchstones for yourself for movie theaters.

[A]

I remember. I remember Shrek right after. Yeah, right after 9, 11. Yeah, I think it was. That was.

[C]

That's what. That's what allowed you to calm down. That's what all. We all learned how to laugh again. When Shrek came out.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Were you doing. Were you doing Carnivore? Do you ever know. Do you have a green or anything? Do you ever live in a swamp or something like that?

[A]

I was never an ogre. Someone asked me recently who I would be if I were in the Shrek universe.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And they cast me as the gingerbread. A character who dies. Who dies really quick.

[C]

Yeah. But I. I could see you more as. I could see you more as a donkey.

[B]

We started it.

[A]

Thanks.

[C]

Yeah. The donkeys. Donkeys.

[A]

The donkey is so. But then you have to just do Eddie Murphy, right? How else can you play it? How are people doing that without doing Eddie Murphy?

[B]

It's. I try. I did it recently. We put on Trek recently for my Daughter. And like, it's. It's like, kind of. Have you watched it recently? No, it's pretty very, like, anti Disney. It's like, kind of like. Or like, kind of like anti.

[C]

Like.

[B]

Like we're doing something different with the fairy tale.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a little edge. Lordy.

[B]

Which was cool to see because, like, you could just sort of feel a little bit of the thirstiness of, like, yes. This ain't your grandma's anime.

[A]

Yeah. Because don't they. Don't they, like, a lot of them die, right?

[B]

Yeah. The Pinocchio stew. I don't know. Pinocchio's horny maybe or something.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did your daughter react to it?

[B]

She's like. She's like, yeah, it's cool.

[A]

No, she.

[B]

She doesn't really talk that much. Yeah, she seemed to enjoy it. No, she gets bored by everything.

[A]

How she feel about Peppa Pig?

[B]

We haven't really done that. But she's into. She's aware of it. I think she's going to start asking for it. We're. She likes Bluey and Paw Patrol and she really likes Disney. She really likes Mickey Mouse and, like, Mickey Mouse's buddies.

[A]

The standards, the classics. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

The classic is good for me. I like. I like them, too.

[A]

No, he's great.

[C]

Disneyland's awesome. But wait, let me just. So in high school, when did you. Were you doing comedy in high school?

[A]

Yeah, I started. I was. We were doing videos.

[C]

You were doing videos? We were doing videos, like, with the camcorder, like.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Dv. Mini dv.

[C]

Mini dv.

[A]

We were editing.

[C]

I get my dad's mini DV and make videos. Or.

[A]

And even before that, when you had to film just in sequential.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Order. Yeah, that whole thing. And then. And then plays. I was doing the plays. And then. And then stand up. It started junior year because my mom was like, you gotta. You gotta pull together. I was doing bad in school, and she was like, if you want to be a comedic actor, you gotta do stand up. And I hated stand up. I hate watching stand up.

[C]

Really?

[A]

The Comedy Central presents, like, made me sick.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. So, but you started doing it your junior year in high school, and where did you grow up?

[A]

Massachusetts. Central Massachusetts.

[C]

Where were you doing stand up?

[A]

A place called the Merrimack. Broad Street Grill was the first place, and they had car seats in the audience. And it was for, like. It was like a high schooler open mic night.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was like van seats that were ripped out of A van and just lined up and it was. I was just dry heaving in the parking lot. I talked about seeing deer, about how everyone wanted to talk when people saw deer. It was something about, in the suburbs, the pride that people had about the amount of deer that they saw.

[C]

That is. That holds up.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, parents will, like, take. My parents will, like, take photos of the animals they see and be like, yeah. Saw this out the backyard. Yeah, this was in our backyard.

[A]

Right.

[C]

There's, like, a lot of pride the closer it is to your home and the.

[A]

And the amount. And yeah, also those trail cams are kind of creepy because there's some animals that are not native to the habitat that are showing up right in the, like, iguanas and stuff in the Northeast. There's some new stuff there. So that was my first bit ever.

[C]

Good.

[A]

And that's good.

[C]

That's good. That's pretty good. That's good. Were you guys doing.

[A]

Did you go to. You didn't go to high school together?

[C]

No, no. I grew up in the Midwest. I was doing, like, improv classes at Second City. My mom signed me up for it. I was also like. I mean, I was doing fine in school, but I was, like, you know, disruptive.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Had a good teacher who was like, got me into theater, and then my mom got me into doing these improv classes.

[A]

The teacher saw you kind of acted up, being like, hey, let's bring this to the stage.

[C]

Let's bring this to the stage. She would give me some time to, like, perform during class.

[A]

Same.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Same.

[C]

What Was your teacher?

[A]

Mrs. Constantino. What grade? She's like. And Mr. Fleming, we will be giving a creative assignment.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's incredible.

[A]

Which is kind of condescending in hindsight. Oh, it's, like, a little embarrassing to think back on that. Okay, so you took. You took improv.

[C]

I took improv in high school. Yeah. And did. Made movies with my friends and, like, showed them during lunch in the AV room and.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah. What. What year? What grade was this? Good teacher?

[A]

That junior and senior.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I heard twice.

[B]

Anyway, so I had her twice.

[C]

I had my teacher twice, too. Two. Two years in a row.

[A]

I had a first. Sorry.

[B]

No, please. We had the same teacher two years. That's pretty incredible.

[C]

This is rare.

[A]

First grade, second grade, and third grade. I had a lot of teachers that were like, that stuck with you.

[C]

They're like, we want to teach Chris.

[A]

We gotta keep.

[C]

Yeah, we gotta stay out.

[A]

We can't release him yet.

[C]

We can't have another teacher start all over with this guy. We need to build on what we've.

[A]

Yeah, there's too much to know.

[B]

So you were having. Because you've told this before, your teacher let you do like five minutes at the end of class.

[C]

Yeah, like random. Excuse me, guys.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Some stupid character y like songy movement.

[A]

Like I would write stories and they would. And she would have me read them at the end of Friday. Yeah. If they were well behaved, I would read these stories and they were like.

[B]

And it was made of.

[A]

But they weren't even funny stories.

[B]

They were just.

[A]

They were just. They were just like folktales.

[C]

Folktales. That's. Wow, that's really cool.

[A]

I forgot about that.

[C]

So, like, I guess the question I want to like, did you. So did you have this.

[A]

Good interviewers, by the way. I wasn't expecting that.

[C]

Are we really?

[A]

Yeah. You guys.

[C]

Great.

[B]

That's very sweet.

[C]

So did you have this like thing that you didn't know what to do with and it was her and your mom like being like, channel this somehow?

[B]

I was.

[C]

Or were.

[A]

I didn't want to do any. I was like. I was just kind of like it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, my friends are the ones that wanted to make videos and I would like be funny in the videos. But I didn't. I didn't get like, you weren't like

[C]

serious organizing it and being like, let's

[A]

do this until stand up. And then I was like, okay, I need to. If it's just me, I need to like. Yeah, otherwise. And if I was even part of a play, I would feel like a little bit like.

[C]

Right, right.

[A]

I think like the. I don't want to say anti. Stop. But like feeling like this is it.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. That's where your sort of creative energy came from.

[A]

Maybe a little bit like, I think having to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then when it's just you, then you're like, okay, then I gotta get responsible. Then I got serious about it.

[C]

And then when you left high school, is that when you were like, I'm doing this. I'm doing some version of this, like acting or stand up.

[A]

Yeah. I remember going to college and making it like I got all my friends and I would be like, we're all gonna do stand up and we're gonna do. I mean, we were in a sketch group together.

[B]

Okay, what was the name of sketch?

[A]

The Sketchies.

[C]

The Sketchies. We comedians. That's great, dude. Let me give you some love for that, dude. The sketches.

[A]

We gotta shout and name it.

[C]

That's actually pretty good.

[B]

Shout out to the sketchies. Who we got here?

[A]

Okay, Ryan Bresterson. We got Buck Lepard.

[C]

Okay, that's a great name.

[A]

Jeremy Cohn.

[C]

Jeremy Cohn.

[A]

Rachel Rodeman.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

Melissa Stripe. We got Brian Griffin. Not the Family Guy guy. Okay, but. So he changed his name to Barn.

[C]

Barn.

[A]

He was the leader and he was so. Oh, he was. We called him the last American Cowboy. He was older than us. He would drive a Jeep around smoking cigarettes.

[C]

Wow, that's so cool. But you remember all their names right away.

[A]

Michael Zegan was one of the founding members. He's an actor now.

[C]

Michael Zegan. Yeah. Yeah, it was.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, we. We bombed. No one liked our sketches.

[B]

So. Wait, did it exist prior to you being there, or.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. I got an institution that you were brought into.

[B]

And again, I feel like I'm putting on the spot here, but, like, that's okay.

[C]

But it's kind of part of it, you know? We kind of got to put them on the spot.

[B]

Cut.

[C]

Anything you don't want.

[B]

Okay. Just give me a chance.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Just warm up. Just.

[A]

Just let.

[C]

Just get comfortable.

[A]

We've been talking for 30 minutes. Is that possible?

[C]

Yeah, it's crazy, right? Just zooming.

[B]

Could have started when we were pre. Did you start actually start it? Yeah, probably two, three minutes of downtime.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's like 29 minutes. Dude.

[B]

It. Let's just round up to 30. Why?

[C]

The riff. Let's just go nuts.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And so you guys were.

[A]

I wasn't expecting you guys to be,

[B]

like, kind of like.

[A]

You were actually, like, down to nice interviewers.

[C]

Oh, that's great. I mean, that's. Yeah. Nice interviewers kind of like to mess around, goof around a little bit. A little bit of everything.

[A]

A little.

[B]

A little bit impractical Jokers. A little bit. A little bit of Dick Cabot.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. That's how we describe ourselves.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You guys would do a show, like, what, every month?

[A]

No, we. We would do it once a semester, and we would release. We would do a live thing, too, at the Com. Comedy Festival. Com Fest.

[C]

Oh, no, he forgot. He's not. I think we need to call it Comb Us.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Can we start? Yeah, let's. We should probably wrap this up. But it was. But we would only do one. One show, and then this. The tradition was. I hated this. It was too smoke. The tradition was we would show the episode in a theater, and there was always a tech problem. And so, like, the tech guys were having to, like. It was always an hour late, and we Were sitting. The tradition was to sit in the front drinking 40s and it's like. Like I had to be like filmed it. That's right. It was film sku.

[B]

Because I'm like, what the fuck is this person talking about? I had no idea what type of show it was.

[C]

You're sitting in the audience. It's like so meta.

[B]

I thought they were. Okay, go on. I'm sorry. I was like, that was so fucked up.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[A]

So we're showing it and I had to stop the tradition of the drinking the 40s because I'm like, oftentimes we're bombing and for us to be.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Us to be. We're kind of counting our chickens before they're hatching. Yeah.

[C]

You're celebrating in front of everybody's 40s

[A]

with zero laughs after being an hour. Hour late.

[C]

Yeah. That's not good for an audience.

[A]

So I think I stopped that. I don't think that tradition happens anymore.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But no, we were making. We're making funky stuff about an hour.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

The rule was that you couldn't shoot anything on campus because it was nothing like college related. We'd have to go to other. To do site specific work.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

And it was.

[B]

And so you. It would just be a compilation of several sketches.

[A]

Yes,

[C]

we did. We were. Our comedy group.

[B]

We did some better.

[C]

Yeah. Let's talk about us.

[A]

Good names.

[C]

So our comedy group. It was amazing. Our sketches were awesome. But we. We did one sketch show every semester and it was like a. People would come and drink and get really drunk and we got kicked out of the theater at some point. So it was a similar thing. Like we got in trouble. We got kicked out of the theater.

[B]

The opposite.

[C]

We were like.

[B]

We kind of got. We got a party and like they found beer cans in the. In the trash can.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You were dumpster diving at the.

[B]

We kind of got. I think like we fucked up. It was. Well, it was not our last year. It was maybe the second to last year.

[C]

Second to last. Yeah.

[B]

I think after we left like USC became a very like, I feel like.

[A]

Oh, you went to usc?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

God damn. With all the Spielberg statues.

[C]

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. It really affected it really made a big impression on us. All the Spielberg statues.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It was really nice. Yeah, it was really nice to go to school with those.

[A]

I lived by West Adams for a little while when I first moved here.

[C]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[A]

And I actually read there was a. There was a frat that was keeping pit bulls and they would go on vacation and leave their Pit bulls outside in these kennels. And so my landlord was like, you gotta liberate those pit bulls.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I had to go break in with, like, a wrench and free these dogs that were like, snarling at me. And whoa. It was the craziest shit.

[C]

So wait, so you're like. So I had to go in and free these dogs because she pulled up in a van. Your landlord, Simone. Wow. And you're living somewhere else nearby. You're like, down the block.

[A]

I was like, down the block. There's these dogs that I think are in the rain and they're not being fed because they're like these like, football players.

[C]

That is so awful.

[A]

It was really fucked up. But I liberated them.

[C]

Wow. And so where did they go?

[A]

This lady Simone got them rehomed somewhere. And the guys were like, whatever.

[B]

Simone was the landlord.

[A]

The landlady.

[C]

Wow. Shout out to Simone. You're a Simon and her dog. You guys are heroes. You guys are dog heroes.

[A]

This was a long time ago. I hadn't really thought about that.

[C]

I mean, this is. This is huge. You gotta.

[B]

But also, like, that's such a specific dynamic relationship between.

[A]

She was so badass and Simone. She was so. She could make me do anything. Anything.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

She. I used to pay my rent by. She'd be in bed and I just, like, go into her. She'd be like, come in and I'd, like, put the thing on, like on her bed and just like, kind of walk out. She was like, yeah. Such a powerhouse.

[C]

But she could make you do anything.

[A]

She could.

[C]

Are you also somebody who's just like, down to go do stuff or. Like.

[A]

I love. I love something like that.

[C]

Like a weird thing, like you were

[A]

like, hey, there's like a. If there's any. Anything dog related, I'm. I'm. I'll jump the fence. I'll get bitten.

[B]

That's very sweet.

[C]

That's very. Do you have a dog?

[A]

Three.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Do you guys?

[C]

I have a dog.

[A]

What kind?

[C]

It's is a terrier. 90. Terrier. 10. Shih tzu.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

He's like. He's like, Chihuahua in there. No Chihuahua. It looks like he's a dachshund almost because he's longer than. He's like a 7, 16 pound terrier with his ears aren't clipped, his tail isn't clipped. So it's a little.

[A]

Crops.

[C]

No crops.

[A]

So floppy.

[C]

Floppy.

[A]

You know what I think about dachshunds? I think that they're a sign of mischief and good fortune.

[C]

Really.

[A]

Whenever I see A dachshund or. I saw a wire haired one today. Like the professorial type.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I go, things are gonna be all right.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Long hair. That's the more kind of Farrah Fawcett kind.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But whenever it's.

[B]

No, no, I like the dog stuff. I like.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

Just for the sake of the audience. I was just looking at Chris.

[A]

You were gazing so supportively. What are you drinking, by the way, Beck? What's that cute little.

[C]

Oh, this I get. I like cute little coffees. This is. This is a cortado with an extra shot.

[A]

What's a cortado?

[C]

Cortado is like a macchiato but with a little bit more milk. Oh, yeah, yeah. What about you?

[A]

Slutty matcha latte.

[C]

Wait, a what?

[A]

Slutty.

[C]

Just a matcha latte.

[A]

I know. I think we're probably not supposed to be doing Starbucks for any given reason, but I'm.

[C]

Oh, no. Hey, you know, it's okay.

[A]

We're cool here.

[C]

We're cool. Yeah. We can do whatever. Any brand you want. Any brand you want.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Consume.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Is this, like, I was using. Is this part of the plan as a transition? Like, is. Is this part of your plan? Is this, like, what you're doing now? Is this, like. Or is this surprising kind of what

[A]

you want to be doing?

[C]

No, not the podcast.

[B]

Like, like, this is, like, one time.

[C]

This is a really good question.

[B]

I was in it.

[C]

I was.

[B]

I was in high school drama, and we had a person come to visit who, like, was a working Broadway actor, was in chorus on, like, a Broadway show.

[A]

Oh, yeah. And they could. I mean, the respect that they must have gotten at the high. We had a voiceover actor come to our college and everyone was putting on full face makeup.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

And like, maybe they'll bring me back. Maybe they'll take me back.

[B]

It was a very big.

[A]

He did, like, CD ROM voiceover. It was.

[B]

But for this person, it was their, like, dream to be on Broadway. And they were on Broadway and they came to talk to our class, and they open it up to Q and A. They're like, so, what do you really want to do?

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So what's next for you? It's like, what the f. And she's like, well, this is what I want to do.

[C]

No, this is it. I'm doing the thing that I wanted.

[B]

This is.

[A]

Who asked that?

[B]

Me.

[A]

Wait, you asked like, what's that?

[B]

Because I did. Yeah. I didn't like that.

[A]

Just shows how ambitious you are, though, even as a Teen. You were like, this can't be the.

[C]

And what was the reaction?

[B]

Her response was like, well, this is what I've finally made. I gotten the thing that I've wanted to do. I've dreamt for my entire life.

[A]

You probably sent her spiraling.

[B]

Yeah. And I was just.

[C]

You and my parents.

[A]

She's probably in the car on the way back being like, yeah, you got, you definitely got under the crawl.

[B]

17 year old, like, what's next for you?

[C]

Yeah. So what's next? Is this it? Is this it, Chris? Like doing stand up? Is that all? Or did you want to? Do you have, like, any branding ideas?

[A]

I want to do a lot of brand deals. I want to. Yeah. I want to. I don't know. I, I, I right now feel very good. I feel very content.

[C]

I mean, I would imagine I'd never had a special, but when I see somebody like, you have a special like this, that is.

[A]

You're like, I could do that.

[C]

No, no. I'm like, God, what? No, I'm like, that must feel amazing.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I miss? I miss the. I miss before. I miss doing it all summer in theaters and, like, knowing I was working towards it and, like, having a little thing up my sleeve.

[B]

Oh, that is so fun. Like, it'. It's about to. It's.

[C]

I can't wait for people. You'll see.

[B]

You'll see.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I like that. I like. That's my favorite part of it.

[C]

Are you already on to that next phase?

[A]

No, Just enjoy this, you know, I'm trying to enjoy.

[B]

You have to.

[A]

I'm doing Drew Barrymore tomorrow.

[C]

Oh, you guys are going to cry, right?

[A]

That's what I'm, I. It's what I keep tell. Being told.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Cuz. Cuz I think, I think she makes everyone cry.

[C]

Right? A little bit.

[A]

NPR made me cry. Npr? The interviews. They put tissue boxes out next to you. The way that the mob digs holes in the desert. Like, there's a plan. You know what they're gonna do?

[C]

I did an interview, like one, One of these, and I, I cried like three times.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because they're so well researched.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

They bring up something that, like, is connected to. I don't know. You're like, oh, I've never been asked that. I've never.

[A]

Because you're, you're. I'm being, I'm getting ready to dodge things. I'm getting ready to be, like, asked, like, why do, why do you wear those clothes? And just like. And then when they're like, hey, how do. And then when they ask something tender.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't fucking believe it.

[C]

Right? Wow.

[A]

And so I think Drew. I mean, already the idea of meeting someone who was an ET Is already.

[B]

Of course, that's very exciting. You might cry or you might have my experience and just, like, eat. Like, now we're gonna eat Mac and cheese.

[A]

Oh, wait, you were on.

[B]

I've done it twice, Chris.

[C]

I didn't even know this.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. What happened?

[B]

She's so awesome. Awesome.

[A]

I know. She seems so cool. I love how child actors, when they're men, become Shia LaBeouf or. Or. Or, like, the most tender social worker.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, we do. We. The first time we read, like, a news report, it was sort of like,

[A]

oh, Kyle rifts the news.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'm sure it's gone viral since then.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah. We've all seen it.

[B]

And then the second time there was. It was around Christmas time, so there was some component of like.

[A]

Like, holiday cheer.

[B]

I think somebody was maybe in a big. It was revealed that there was something in a box. It was like, what. What do you think is in the box?

[A]

So games. We're doing games.

[B]

But she also, like, sounds kind of hot.

[A]

What was in the box?

[B]

I think it was, like, a nutcracker man.

[A]

Like a.

[C]

Like a little statue. Like a nutcracker.

[A]

Not a moving man.

[B]

A moving man.

[A]

Like a live man.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Because he would have said just nutcracker. It was just a nutcracker. But the fact that he's a nutcracker man.

[B]

That was supposed to be the giveaway.

[A]

There's something bionic happening. Yeah, there's a. So a man came out.

[B]

I think it was promotion. It was like, maybe they're gonna give away tickets to, like, a performance of the Nutcracker or something like that. And that was the way.

[A]

Like, there's something on the website that's like, just so you know, to participate in the giveaways, you have to. There's, like, some conditions, I guess. People probably get pretty pissed about not being able to be part of the. There's, like, something.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

And the studio audience is like, I've been studying the show to try to prepare myself to not cry on the Drew Barrymore show.

[B]

Well, everybody. I feel like everybody always cries in the audience, too. Like, there's always, like, somebody.

[A]

Well, they're on ketamine. It's very clear that the whole crowd is completely ketted up.

[B]

I watch your show, and I've been going through some stuff, and Now I feel better. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking idiots.

[C]

Drew Barrymore, audience. So classic.

[B]

No, no, no. Everybody has.

[A]

The way you made your teeth disappear for that. For that character. It was really, really good. So. Okay, so you found. You found it to be not overwhelming emotionally.

[B]

Well, you got. You're talking about these. I've never had these experiences that you're talking about where, like, you've been in an interview and somebody's hit you with some real raw emotional stuff.

[A]

Well, you're kind of. You're probably too. You're kind of a. I imagine an Alcatraz up here. You're probably hard to get.

[B]

I think that's maybe accurate.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm ready to cry.

[A]

Beck is more of an open wound, and I'm more of an open wound, but I think you. You got some Buckingham Palace.

[C]

I think that's.

[B]

But I feel like if you guys say the right things right now, you could. We could really make a moment.

[A]

And again, don't get me wrong. It's not that I'm not sensing a major sensitivity.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's just that there is. But there is a locked away that we couldn't have access to. Is how I feel.

[B]

Have I cried in front of you?

[C]

I think so. But it's rare.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is helpful to hear about. About Drew.

[C]

About Drew.

[B]

Regardless. I mean, every time it's been an awesome experience and she's like, you got you guys together. I'm trying to imagine she's going off on, like, the Drew bar.

[A]

Do you get laughs in the crowd?

[B]

I think the first time I did. Second time started off slow. I got there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm trying to imagine you in a daytime talk show situation, but, yeah, there

[B]

is a little bit of that. Like. Yeah. And of course.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Not quite sure about that because I've been frozen.

[A]

She really makes a meal of the questions. Too rare.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I think it's a. I timed it. It took a minute and a half for her to ask one question. And so by that point, you're already almost done.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then there's the dog sleeping. There's Dougie.

[C]

There's Dougie.

[A]

Dougie.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Blind.

[C]

I didn't know that.

[B]

But that is in New York City, is it not?

[A]

It is.

[B]

Okay, so you're gonna have to travel.

[A]

I gotta go tomorrow.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

We gotta. Our producer is once again. She's holding up this sign for the next. She's put it down. We understand.

[C]

We gotta keep it moving.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You.

[A]

We're getting a lot of vitriol.

[C]

We get it. Next segment. Okay.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Now, is that laminated?

[A]

Okay.

[C]

No, no, no, no. Not laminate. What is that? Is that, Is it on a binder? It's got a little.

[B]

Did it say something on the back? Next segment. Throw to break. You never use that one.

[C]

Now, we're here to talk to you, but you're also here to tell us what you think our podcast should be about.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And we're going to try it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

What do you think, Chris?

[A]

That our podcast should be about histamine and anti histamine.

[C]

Histamine and antihistamine.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Great. Well, any and any other things to think about with that or you don't have to say anything else. That's great. Okay. Well, we're gonna be right back with our new podcast, Histamine and Anti Histamine with Chris Fleming, all. Oh, right. What's up, dude? Dude. Yes.

[B]

I have been thinking about.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Some of the old times we hung out. It just has really.

[C]

I remember some of those times.

[B]

Like, it's like. And now we've got a podcast.

[C]

I know. Now we just get to hang out here. It's like, we don't have to go out to places or each other's houses because we got this.

[B]

If you had told me.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When I was in college that I'd be doing a podcast with you, I'd be like, first off, what's a podcast? Second of all, like, that's incredible. That, like, is really meaningful to me.

[C]

Yeah. You would have, you would have gone right to meaningful. Even though you didn't know what. Even though you had no context for what a podcast.

[B]

Just to think that, like, you and I would be, like, behind Mike, like, all professional, like, with a producer.

[C]

Michelle. Right. Yes.

[B]

Like, that would be really, really cool.

[C]

I know. I really, you know, I, I, I'm, I have so much gratitude for being able to sit here with you and share the space. You know, creating a space, holding space, and you're somebody I care about. I care about holding space. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, let's get into it. Yeah.

[B]

Welcome back to Histamine and Anti Histamine.

[C]

Histamine and Anti Histamine. That's what it's all about. You told us Histamine and antihistamine. That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle. Yes. Here we are with histamine and antihistamine and our guest this week, Chris Fleming.

[A]

Hey, his demeanors.

[C]

Hey. His demeanors.

[B]

You know? You know.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You expect Chris to maybe Be histamine, But he's being awfully histinized. Well, sorry about that.

[C]

Sorry about that.

[B]

I like around with people.

[A]

I get histamine later in the day.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Pre 3pm what's your relationship to histamines, by the way?

[B]

Complicated. You go first.

[A]

You don't have them.

[C]

I don't have them. I really don't. I don't have to take anti histamines very much.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

There are people I know who have histamines, and they have to take antihistamines. I'm not one of them. Oh, no.

[B]

Oh, sorry.

[C]

No. If you got to go. No, no, no. I thought what I was saying was actually pretty interesting.

[A]

That was just my kickoff alarm.

[C]

Okay, great to kick this off. Okay, great to kick off the histamine.

[B]

It's a good. It really sounded like somebody important was trying to get.

[C]

I think I had the same one.

[A]

I think it's the best alarm. And I'm making sure snooze is not on.

[C]

I mean, I don't have to take antihistamines. Kyle, do you have to take antihistamines for your histamines?

[B]

You know, it's interesting, actually, you know that histamine. You know, here I am.

[A]

Your history of histamines.

[B]

Yeah. That I take part in a podcast dedicated to histamine. Histamines and antihistamines.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And you'd be surprised. I'm sort of like,

[C]

Don't.

[B]

I don't exactly know what the we're talking about. Histamine is an allergy.

[C]

A histamine is something that's an allergic response. It's an allergic response. Histamines are released in your body in reaction to something.

[A]

They were on my mind because I have a cashew cheese allergy. And that whenever I have a particularly bad show, like I did in San Antonio, not. But one week ago, I had a corporate gig where I had to perform for a bunch of Target executives in a giant ballroom. Is only like. And I did not do well. 45 minutes.

[C]

And this was for what company?

[A]

Well, it was Target executives. Five below. It was a meeting of.

[C]

Meeting of the minds.

[A]

Yes. And it was really sinister. And I don't.

[B]

How much did they pay?

[C]

Yeah, that's what we're wondering.

[A]

It was sizable.

[C]

You don't have to say. But that's sizable. That's what allows you to do the.

[A]

And I was constantly. And I had a countdown clock. But imagine that counting down. And I. And I kept saying how much time we had left. And I said, I'm gonna make it very clear when we hit zero, I'm gone. I'm grabbing my computer and I am sprinting by you guys.

[B]

You're telling this to the audience?

[A]

I'm telling them.

[C]

And were they enjoying those?

[A]

That's the only sound that they would make. And they weren't even leaving. But the only laughs they would get was when I would tell them. How much time? Like 12 minutes, 30 seconds left. I'm dripping with sweat onto the mic.

[C]

That's the only stuff they're laughing at.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Oh, that's it.

[C]

At least you're getting one lady loved it.

[A]

One lady standing. Oh, but everyone. And I couldn't see. I was so bad. Anyway, so I do this. I. When this happened last year too, when I opened for my friend Nikki. When I. Anytime I bomb really hard, I forget I have a cashew allergy. And then I get a veggie burger and this had cashew cheese on it. Eat that around 3am start getting itch. It's a rash and it's a really scratch. I still have it right here. I'm on. I was on steroids last week. I was. I was. I was. Okay. You ever have a rash, you put it under scalding hot water? Most pleasure you've ever felt. Interesting. It's like an angel scratching it. Did you just pour it you under the. You're in the bath. Put it on. Hotter than you could ever imagine. Oh, wow. Drooling.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It is. I bet I've only done it twice in my life. It is like some of the greatest pleasure you're ever gonna feel in your life.

[C]

Almost enough to make you want to get a little rash so that you could just relieve it and be like, ugh.

[A]

And there's a theory that every once in a while, annually, I seek this out for that pleasure.

[B]

Sort of like a phantom thread type situation.

[A]

Yeah, I've moonch housed it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I got the mooch by proxy.

[C]

Is it kind of like feed me the mushrooms? I mean, it's got. It's like scratching an itch. That. Right.

[A]

But imagine a team of angels are scratching it for you.

[C]

Really?

[A]

You know, it's actually. I have chills thinking about it.

[C]

I would love to get a rash just to antihistamine myself.

[A]

And I still have it on the ass and under thigh right now.

[B]

So is now when we say an antihistamine is anything that's going against the histamine because it's a thing of a pill, typically.

[A]

Sorry. That's right. An antihistamine is Like, I think Benadryl is in this family.

[C]

The hot water isn't really an antihistamine.

[A]

No, no. The hot waters are just kind of an accessory of pleasure. Yeah, It's a toy.

[C]

Yeah, Right.

[A]

It's a rash toy.

[C]

I get it.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

It's a rash toy.

[A]

It's a rash toy. So that's why I think I am a good guest for the histamines antihistamines podcast.

[C]

Yes, yes. You're fantastic guests for the histamines antihistamines. I mean, it's just like. It's just like. Because. Yeah, we don't know much about it, but we have a podcast about it.

[A]

They're like heroes in your body that show up and get you bumpy. To fight the. To fight what's coming. To fight. To fight the invader. And there's something actually really moving about that.

[C]

About the. About the antihistamine showing up for you.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Now what. What. What's the worst rash you've had because of this allergy?

[A]

Interestingly enough. Poison oak, poison ivy, cashew. Same family. Yeah. So I have crazy allergies to all that. The worst is always going to be the. Because it's like ingesting poison ivy for me. The cashew cheese, cashew butter one. So I had, like, a whole tub.

[B]

Are you vegetarian or vegan?

[A]

You would think, but I'm not. No, Yeah, I would think. I read as that, but I'm not. I'll eat anything.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Except I don't see.

[B]

Yeah, cashew cheese, that's something that's not appealing to me generally. But not.

[C]

He loves cheese.

[A]

I like vegan food because it's. Because you don't have to chew it very much.

[B]

Oh, you just don't like the. It's like an alternate.

[A]

Yeah, it's like a laziness thing, but it's also like an alternate reality where it's like, oh, this cheese isn't real. I love that. And then that's how I get into trouble.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kyle, are you allergic to anything?

[B]

Hey, thanks for asking, dude.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Bermuda grass is the answer.

[C]

Bermuda grass. How often do you get rashed these days?

[A]

Wait, when we say Bermuda grass, what is Bermuda grass? You mean, like, local?

[B]

I. This is. Here's what I know. I know that when I was probably 9 years old, 10 years old, I. I guess developed asthma or I had asthma. I discovered I had asthma.

[A]

Inhaler. Yeah.

[C]

And.

[B]

But I was also. It was interesting because I was also, like, a chubby kid, and, like, I feel like There was also some association with the fact that when I exercised, I was sort of giving up easily, if that makes any sense.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I also genuinely was coughing and I was diagnosed with it, so it has to be real. I don't. Yeah, I think.

[C]

And I did have to say, yeah, if the doctor diagnosed you.

[A]

Yeah, we gotta take that word for it.

[B]

Which. Yeah, if you had it. I mean, like, I got for a moment there a lot of the gear. There was like a little inhaler. There was also like a long tube.

[A]

That one was fun.

[C]

Yes. There was one that you would get

[A]

at the doctor that you could. Yeah, it was like a vacuum tube.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Wow. Yeah.

[A]

It tasted good, actually.

[B]

Yes, I agree.

[A]

It was really nice.

[C]

So was it just like a big inhaler? It fill in your lungs with medicine?

[B]

I don't really know.

[A]

I haven't thought too much about it since.

[C]

I would love to see one of these.

[B]

But I. But around that time I got like

[C]

a full

[B]

sort of like, I guess, what do you call it? Like a prick test. Like they sort of like.

[A]

Oh, yeah, it's always random shit. It's like lamb.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're always testing like Bermuda grass was

[B]

the only one, which I couldn't. I don't know that I could recognize what a blade of Bermuda grass looks like.

[C]

You really should have this at the front of your mind.

[A]

It could be in. You know how Florida has the thick ass shards of grass.

[C]

Yeah, they really do.

[A]

It's like, yeah, it could be that. That might be Bermuda grass. So I thought that maybe you learned this while vacationing.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. But if anybody knows more about Bermuda grass, please send it to some of the people who do the podcast because maybe they'll get it to me and I can learn a little more.

[C]

If anybody knows how to find what bermudagrass looks like, just send that information as well.

[B]

We're curious if Florida has Bermuda grass. Chris actually had a really interesting comment about possibly Florida, about the nature of Florida's cracks. So we'd love to know about that. And also, I don't know if you have any other questions for folks back.

[A]

Do you have any allergies?

[C]

No allergies.

[B]

That seems impossible.

[C]

No, I don't have any allergies.

[A]

You're an American boy.

[C]

I'm an American boy. I'm a good Midwestern boy.

[A]

It just hit me how you are an American boy.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, just. I could eat anything, roll around in anything, just.

[A]

That's a strong American boy. We got a couple of pencil net

[C]

geeks over here we got long curly, the glasses, and I'm just like, hey, throw it at me. Nothing can sink me.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Look. Incentive again.

[C]

Yeah. It feels amazing to be me.

[B]

Do you get sick often?

[A]

When I get sick, I'm down for the count. Yeah, but not that often. Do you.

[B]

I. No, not that, but I. I'm dramatic, too.

[A]

I'm really. Yeah, I'm very much.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It is so annoying being sick. Yeah. And it really does make you appreciate when you're not sick. That is the thing that, like, right now, I'm feeling pretty healthy, but rarely do you check in with yourself.

[A]

You can take it for granted.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I had to do a show in Austin where I was continually falling to my feet in a coughing fit like a month ago.

[C]

Really? It was. You weren't, like, dramatizing it to, like, make it funny and falling to your knees?

[A]

No, because if they sense weakness, you lose all credibility. That's when they start chattering. Is he okay? We. It was okay.

[C]

Yeah. Then.

[A]

Then it's bad.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So, no, I was trying not to.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

But it was.

[C]

It was rough, but you made it through.

[A]

Made it through. And here we are.

[C]

And here we are, talking about history.

[B]

So where's the rash again? Sorry.

[A]

Well, it starts. It starts on the. It starts on the hands.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You can see a little bit of faded on the arms. It looks like a little bit like a witch's skin.

[C]

I think it looks beautiful.

[A]

And then there's a lot right here and on the ass, on each of the cheeks.

[C]

Look at that flex and the ease in which you raise that leg up in the air.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I appreciate you noticing that.

[B]

Do you. You do you stretch before your performances?

[A]

I stretch a lot in the bath. I spend. I spend a lot of time.

[C]

How many off are you taking a bath on a.

[A]

On a ideal day? I will even do three.

[C]

Wow. So this is huge.

[A]

It's how Pacino stayed sober.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Pacino? He's like, if it weren't for the bats, I would.

[C]

I didn't even know he was sober.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Well, you can tell when he. Yeah, I think the damage was done.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So. Wow. So how long are the bathrooms? Baths, Half hour.

[A]

I couldn't even tell. I don't time them.

[B]

I love baths, too. I never get. I never get them anymore.

[A]

You got to do them. I did them the first day of my college pre orientation. I took a bath. We were in the camping trip thing, and there was, like, a cabin. I was like, I'm Gonna take. I need a bath to. To check back in.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

I need it.

[C]

I mean, my wife is always, like, being like, you should take a bath.

[A]

You gotta.

[C]

And I'm like, no, I'm fine. That's not gonna do anything for me.

[A]

No, no.

[C]

Do you have bubbles in your bath? Do you have, like, bubbles bombs? Bath bombs.

[A]

They're like 7.99 at Whole Foods, but it's worth it.

[C]

So every time you're doing a bath bomb. Not every time.

[A]

That's a little too luxurious.

[B]

Remind me what the bath bomb does.

[A]

Fizzes out. It's. Sometimes they're like kind of fun little shapes, like an avocado, sometimes like a cheese. Not a cheeseburger.

[C]

It's not like a cheeseburger. How do I describe it? I don't know. Not a cheeseburger.

[A]

It's not like a cheeseburger.

[C]

It's just kind of like a little circle. Like, I feel like it looks like a little clumping, but then they.

[B]

Sorry. They dissolve and it just becomes like. It smells fun.

[A]

It's like a fun color. Or like a little bubbly lavender jasmine.

[C]

Now, can you wash yourself with the bath bombs? Or is that just for. No, you don't want to. That's not soap. No, no, no, no. Sometimes I get confused about that.

[A]

The bath is not to clean. It's to relax and soothe. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah, because you're sitting in your own mess, Right.

[C]

But maybe at the end you can stand up and kind of wash yourself.

[A]

Get the horse bath bath.

[C]

Yeah, A little horse bath in your bath and then. And then let it all go down a hose tub. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I think. I think it's really important to. To. To. To. To bathe as often as you can.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I love.

[B]

I love bathing. I get a little nervous about, like, the water. Waste of it all with, like, a shot. Because, like, I like to shower a lot.

[C]

But then you think about all the planes and everything, and it's like, well, we're screwed anyway. Yeah, I guess you think about all those planes. You're like, that was one. Another minute in the shower. What's he gonna do?

[A]

How much time you spent in the shower?

[B]

I can hang in there for a minute. Because I do.

[A]

How do you stand in there?

[B]

What's that?

[A]

You want to see my stance?

[B]

Oh, please.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[C]

And where is the water going down in your back. Back of your neck right there. And you're standing there like that. This is reminding me of the. What the Oreo CEO oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. One hand behind the back.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

That's your.

[A]

That's my shower stand.

[C]

That's your shower stand?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I would like to see you. I'd like to see you play characters like the Oreo CEO.

[A]

Me, too.

[C]

Yeah. I want. I want you to be a person in power who's, like, twisted.

[A]

That's sick.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Kyle's getting into character.

[B]

Well, I'm gonna. Let me. Let me try to get there because I don't exactly know what I do. So let's see. I walk in. Yeah.

[A]

Or you flex.

[C]

Oh, you're kind of being tough in the shower. Oh.

[A]

Like a groom.

[C]

Just, like, in case one of your boys comes in and sees you naked, you're like, it's all good.

[A]

Like, you're protecting the bride and. Yeah. Wow.

[C]

That's kind of you.

[B]

I guess. That's what I do.

[A]

That's very macho.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, wow.

[B]

Okay, so you're sexy.

[A]

You're doing a sexy version of it. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What are you doing sexy?

[B]

You just discovered your penis for the first time.

[A]

I think you opened it on the way down.

[C]

That's what it looks like.

[A]

I like how you did a pg, though. How you did the. The.

[C]

Yeah, the thighs.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Baywatch. Do you.

[B]

Are you like. Oh, you go first. I'll go. I know. I almost got in there.

[C]

Sorry. My showers are so quick.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not.

[C]

I love. I.

[B]

They feel so good sometimes.

[A]

Yeah, they feel so good.

[B]

What is your.

[A]

You forget how bad you feel until you're in the shower. I think I. You know what? We probably run cold.

[B]

Yeah, maybe that's true.

[C]

I run hot.

[A]

Yeah. What's your temp?

[C]

That's that about 104, usually.

[B]

That's not good.

[C]

Oh, no.

[B]

I think you might need an anti.

[C]

His. Anti. His.

[B]

Maybe I'm allergic to.

[C]

Yeah, we need.

[A]

We need to get that down. Yeah. What's.

[B]

I mean, are you.

[C]

Are.

[B]

Are you. What are you. What's happening in your head during your baths? Are you going over work stuff? Are you.

[C]

You're checked out.

[A]

I'm nowhere, man.

[C]

No screens.

[A]

No screens. I'm gone.

[C]

Closed eyes. Head back.

[A]

Dude, I've been listening to the Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time playlist recently.

[C]

Very cool.

[B]

And so in Ocarina, that's like a flute.

[A]

What do we call that? It's like a little. It's like a little, like a pan flute.

[B]

Flute. Hamburger.

[A]

Imagine a chunky flute.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And did that exist? Is that a real thing or is this made up by.

[C]

I don't know. I don't know.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I just listen to the songs.

[A]

I listen to a lot of Madonna lately. In the tub, by the way. And I shot boys and a total icon. Thank you.

[C]

Total icon, by the way.

[B]

I. I am on. I think Madonna's, like, done some really, really creative stuff.

[C]

Yeah, go ahead.

[B]

Pet Shop.

[A]

She does some really creative stuff.

[B]

Because I feel like she's been working.

[A]

She's gonna get. Since the 80s from what you're saying about it.

[C]

Since the 80s, she's been doing Cruise.

[A]

I remember it feels like that.

[C]

Obviously, the.

[B]

Well, there was the Holiday. I remember back in the day. And then there was the Material Girl, as I recall. And then she did the song for League of Their Own.

[A]

The. Which one was that?

[B]

Like, this to be my playground.

[C]

This used to.

[A]

She was in a League of Theirs.

[C]

So that was kind of like a Wild west type of thing. Like Will Smith kind of a thing, you know, like you're in the movie and then you make a song for it.

[B]

Yes, the.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah, the same thing.

[A]

If you think about the cast of A League of Their Own, that's like an Air Force One situation that of every cultural heavy hitter, they should have removed them from any, like. Cause if they all went down, you

[C]

know, then we would have been in trouble.

[A]

Madonna, Geena Davis, Tom Hanks. You got Gina.

[C]

Yeah. You got other people, too. That were just great headshot boys.

[B]

I'm gonna say something that I don't think anyone gives a shit about.

[A]

Okay. Okay, great. But like, we're talking synthesizers.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, that is right up his alley.

[A]

Juno 7.

[B]

Hell, yeah. Fuck, yeah.

[C]

I actually. Yeah, I texted Kyle. I almost told him to bring a synthesizer here so we can make a song together, but.

[A]

Oh, my God. You know, my favorite thing is making instrumental. I have like. I have just computers and computers worth of instrumentals that I've forgotten to make any actual lyrics to.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It's very therapeutic.

[B]

Absolutely. You like?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I was only gonna say that. The Pet Shop Boys, they have a very obscure song called. Well, maybe it's not obscure. Have you ever heard a song called New York City Boy?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

It's very late era Pet Shop Boys. But my daughter, who's two and a half, is like. Like really into it. This is one of the weird things of being a parent, I feel like, is like when something that is so specific to your taste that nobody else would know about that, it's like she's singing along to New York City Boy by Pet Shop Boys. But, like, I don't think that means anything to the world.

[A]

But you love it.

[B]

I love that song.

[A]

Right, so you're almost singing, but even.

[B]

But it, like, came up on a playlist rant. I'm not obsessed with this song.

[C]

Like, you're not playing.

[B]

But now she's got a reference that nobody in her universe will have anything. No sense of what you're referring to. Speaking about, it's.

[A]

It's like. It's like having your own, like, customized cultural compadre.

[B]

I guess so.

[A]

Yeah. With like, your own.

[B]

And it's just cute.

[A]

It's really cute. A little girl singing Pet Shop Boys.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What are some of the lyrics to New York City Boys?

[B]

New York City boy. You'll never have a boy when you're a New York city boy. Where 7th Avenue meets Broadway.

[A]

Ooh. You know what that reminded me of? You know the song that Billy Joel sang for Oliver and Company. Why should I worry?

[B]

Oh, yes.

[C]

I don't. I don't think I do, but maybe if I heard it.

[A]

You gotta put it on. It's really good.

[C]

I'll put it on another time.

[A]

Why should I worry? Yeah, it's about him being like, I don't give up.

[B]

A dog.

[A]

Yeah, he's a dog. He's a stray in New York. He's welcome anywhere and he doesn't give up.

[B]

Running around with like a. One of those, like ropes of sausages

[A]

sort of tied together, full body bratwurst and traffic stopping for him.

[C]

It's like, I always listen to it as soon as we're out of here.

[B]

That's one of those things I feel

[C]

like as a. Yeah, I got.

[B]

You see this imagery of these sausages, like, lined up so much like.

[C]

Yeah, the links to connect, but like,

[B]

you never come across it.

[C]

And I've never seen that. Even at a butcher, the links are always separated.

[B]

But it's like when you were like seven years old, it was like, well, I guess that's like the world I'm entering.

[A]

We were made to believe there's gonna be a lot of connected bratwurst.

[C]

Well, you know, the world doesn't always end up the way we thought it would be. You know what I mean? No, I just thought that was an interesting thing to say.

[A]

It's a really interesting point.

[C]

I feel like there was. We left. We. We got interrupted. We were talking about your bath situation. The music is there. So you're listening to stuff sometimes in

[A]

the bath, I'll text gossip.

[C]

You'll text Gossip.

[B]

So you have your phone in there?

[A]

Yeah, I'm not scrolling in there, but I'll occasionally be like, you know what?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Is it safe to say that the bath is almost an antihistamine for. You know, that's completely.

[A]

Right, right. That's completely what it is.

[C]

I think for everybody listening. I'm going to listen to that song. What's the name of the song?

[A]

Why Should I worry? Why should I worry?

[C]

Why should I worry while taking a bath? And I encourage all of our Roccos, that's what we call our fans, to go take a bath. Listen to whatever you want. But honestly, let's take the podcast. Let's take this antihistamine of a bath and just allow yourself to bathe and. And let us know how you feel. Okay, I'm gonna bathe. And I'm very excited to. To bathe and see what happens to my body.

[A]

I appreciate you doing that.

[C]

Yeah. No, thank you for bringing.

[B]

Yeah. It's always so fun talking histamine and antihistamines with you, Chris. Like, it's like.

[C]

Yeah, it's like.

[B]

I remember.

[C]

I remember.

[B]

What were you gonna say?

[C]

Let's see. I love to see you come alive when you talk about histamines and antihistamines.

[B]

Yeah. And just knowing that, like, you're out there struggling with the rash, pouring hot water on it, it's really cool.

[A]

Yeah, I really am out there struggling with the rest.

[C]

Next time I'm struggling really well, Chris is out there struggling with the rest.

[A]

If.

[B]

If Chris can put out a incredible special and get ready some upcoming projects, I'm not even. I'm probably not even allowed to talk about some of these projects I've heard that Chris is doing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If he can do all this with this fucking rash he has, I think I could. I think I could handle doing the laundry.

[C]

Yeah. Washing my clothes.

[A]

An aggravated dui.

[C]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

Yeah. But it is always so interesting.

[C]

Yeah, it's really interesting.

[A]

And I really love to be able to talk to you guys about histamines and antihistamines.

[C]

Oh, yeah, always.

[A]

And I know you guys are always available to do that.

[C]

Yeah. And I don't want to speak for you, Kyle, but I think we love talking to you about histamines. You.

[B]

When you. When we found out you were going to be talking.

[A]

When you found out I was going to be here.

[B]

Yes, I told him. I was like, oh, shit. That actually is perfect. But we really enjoy everybody.

[A]

Yeah. Stay bumpy out there.

[C]

Stay bumpy.

[B]

Talk to you soon.

[A]

And please, please Keep in touch.

[B]

Keep in touch.

[C]

Wow. Histamines and antihistamines.

[B]

It was really cool. You know, I feel like, really interesting of all our episodes of that, of that podcast. I feel like we didn't go as deep as we always do into the histamine and antihistamine of it all, but it's like when you're with these fucking legends, by the way, the three of us.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

How are you not gonna go off on old school Disney Pet Shop Boys?

[C]

Yeah. How you get in the shower with your body.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's like, you can't not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you guys gonna censor the rash that we were showing, you think with our bodies to the camera? Probably. You're probably gonna cut that.

[B]

I feel okay. I mean, that might be a conversation with.

[A]

Especially with the passersby that were also showing their bodies off the street.

[B]

Rochelle. I feel like that is. I don't know if that's cool thing. Yeah. We might get Shadow banned.

[A]

Okay. Oh, God.

[B]

There was some really funny stuff I was doing with my rash.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah.

[B]

I don't think we can show that. I feel like if we clip that

[C]

out maybe behind the paywall. Maybe Patreon or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Patreon it.

[C]

Yeah. Patreon it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, yeah. It was a fantastic.

[B]

So good to have you, Chris. You bring such a wonderful energy.

[A]

It was really fun, you guys. Thank you for having me. I had such a ball.

[B]

I get. I feel like I say this.

[A]

This.

[B]

We've. I've been. We've been around each other probably for 15 years. Because I was thinking that, like, ly. I was thinking of those old lyric. Hyperion. Maddie's pizza party.

[A]

Jesus.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I've never done it.

[A]

Jesus Christ.

[B]

But we don't.

[A]

Right before you left for snl.

[B]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah. And I would go, I think I did it. You must have done it all the time. I feel like I was doing it all the time.

[A]

Every Saturday. Our faces on that piece. And that crudely Photoshopped fire. Yeah, brutal. Brutal. Photoshop.

[C]

You gotta get one of those. You gotta get one of those old flyers.

[A]

Go on Facebook.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Reactivate Facebook.

[B]

They're still tagged on those, for sure. By the way. There's a lot of people.

[A]

Eric Andre was showing those.

[B]

I'm picturing that pizza pie. There's a lot of.

[A]

It was like maybe a six hour show. It was like maybe 20 comics.

[C]

And that's a small venue. Oh, yeah, that's a small venue. That's like more Comics than.

[A]

It's a small venue that also needs. We don't have time to get into this, but it needs to be shifted 180 degrees.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

The feng shui is wrong. The audience is freaked out that their back is to the street. A lot of buildings are facing the wrong way, and this is. We don't have time. That's gonna be the next one.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. We'll talk about building.

[A]

I love building.

[B]

I love just having that knowledge. Like, I'm okay. I need to walk.

[A]

Whenever you walk into a space and like, what's. This is great. Why is it. Why do I feel wrong? It's because you need to shift it.

[B]

Interesting.

[C]

That's.

[A]

That's my theory.

[C]

Yeah. I believe I agree.

[B]

Well, sorry, no. I was just getting at the fact that, like, I've not gotten to spend probably more than six minutes with you

[A]

on the sidewalk or something.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So this was a full joy.

[A]

This was so long.

[B]

Congratulations on everything.

[C]

I think you guys are so funny.

[B]

The name of the special is Chris

[A]

Fleming Live at the Palace.

[B]

Chris is back.

[C]

Yeah, definitely type in Chris is back to

[B]

hbo.

[A]

Chris is back. And it's the we're back font. It's the dinosaur font. It's really bubbly. Let's just use that really, really fuchsia, big bubble letters.

[B]

Congratulations, everything. Congratulations, everything.

[C]

Congratulations, everything. On everything. You meant to say on everything.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Congratulations.

[C]

And this was great.

[B]

Anything else you want to say before you get out of here?

[A]

Congratulations. Everything is my. It's my favorite LCD sound system album, actually. Congratulations, everything. And that's it. Thank you. Thank you, and you guys are the best. And thank you for being so funny and also such lovely interviewers. I can't believe how kind you are on top of being so funny.

[C]

Likewise.

[A]

So thank you.

[B]

Well, we'll see you all next time at the Bat Caves.

[C]

See you at the Bat Caves.

[B]

What's Our Podcast is a Headgun podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.

[C]

The show is produced and engineered by Richelle Chen and Anya Kanovskaya with production support from Ali Khan and Ryan Lutzow.

[B]

Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. Katie Moose is our VP of content at Headgum. Our theme music is made by us.

[C]

For more podcasts by headgum, visit headgum.com or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[B]

Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[A]

Sterling K. Brown.

[C]

And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that Was Us now on Headgum.

[B]

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[A]

That's right.

[B]

We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[C]

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[A]

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[C]

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[A]

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