Claudia O'Doherty

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Episode Overview

Podcast: What's Our Podcast? with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney
Episode: Claudia O'Doherty
Date: September 10, 2025
Guest: Claudia O'Doherty
Theme: In this episode, comedians Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney continue their quest to figure out what their podcast is actually about, inviting Claudia O'Doherty to help them decide. The episode takes an inventive turn as Claudia pitches “jeans” as the topic, leading the trio down a hilarious, digressive rabbit hole about denim, personal insecurities, family, and style. Playful self-deprecation, improvisation, and earnest moments of friendship abound.

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Episode Structure & Key Segments

1. Opening Banter and Show Dynamic (00:36–07:00)

• The episode opens with Beck and Kyle playfully addressing the show's loose format, poking fun at themselves and their dynamic.
• They recount a humorous off-camera moment involving their producer, Anya, setting the relaxed, semi-chaotic tone of the show.
  • Quote: “If it felt that way, I apologize.” – Kyle (01:32)
• The hosts play with their “intros” and do playful impersonations of each other and Michael Keaton as Batman.
• Quick detour into a physical comedy moment with a dropped energy bar, joked about as “dookie.”

2. Podcast Self-Reflection (07:00–10:29)

• Beck and Kyle reflect on their evolving podcast style, their previous guests, and their personal interviewing quirks.
  • Discuss the difference between relating to guests and asking genuine questions.
  • Quote: “I will relate similar experiences to create conversation as opposed to asking questions. So that's something that I'm going to work on.” – Beck (08:19)

3. Iconic Commercials & Impressions Segment (10:29–15:00)

• Playful improv as Beck and Kyle recreate and riff on classic commercials (“It's Dumas,” “I ate the Bones”).
  • Quote: “Can we do a little...I'll do my impression, you do yours...” – Beck (11:12)
• This segment reinforces their SNL roots and love of character work.

4. Welcoming Claudia O’Doherty (15:05)

• Claudia joins and immediately jokes about being on the show at last.
  • Quote: “Finally. You have a podcast.” – Claudia (15:09)
• The trio discuss their podcast-listening habits and preferences.
  • Claudia mostly listens to “boring informational podcasts,” not comedic ones, and is cagey about her podcast history.

5. The “What Should Our Podcast Be About?” Bit (19:00–31:13)

• Claudia is asked to suggest a podcast topic.
• After playful buildup and clarifying “jeans” means denim, not genes, she suggests the show should be about jeans.
  • Quote: “I think your podcast should be about jeans.” – Claudia (30:34)
• The hosts gleefully accept and begin their improvised “Jeans” podcast, complete with a faux intro and character introductions.

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Main Discussion: “Jeans” Podcast with Claudia

Claudia’s Background and Artistic Family (19:11–24:09)

• Claudia’s father played in the Australian new wave/party rock band “Mental As Anything.”
  • Quote: “Those three words together, I’ve never thought about what that means...that’s my dad’s job.” – Claudia (20:08)
• Describes her non-musical talents and her artistic sister.
• Her comedy roots: Started in Australia (alt-comedy, festival circuit), moved to the UK (bigger, more established scene), then the US for work (“Love” on Netflix).
• The friends compare their own journeys away from home and “turning their back” on their hometowns for comedy ambitions.

Early Comedy Groups & Partying (26:10–28:37)

• Claudia describes her college sketch group “Pig Island.”
  • They partied a lot, did comedy festivals, and won awards; classic sketches often ended in a dance.

The Jeans Deep-Dive: Preferences and Insecurities (31:13–41:21)

• The “Jeans” podcast “begins.” They share their complicated relationships with jeans:
  • Claudia feels Levi’s “don’t really look good on me” due to her body shape.
    • Quote: “All I want is to look normal in jeans. I can imagine never getting to do that.” – Claudia (35:38)
  • Beck prefers dark jeans to hide what he calls his “donkey legs.”
  • Kyle is more of a “jean guy” than his friends but is body-positive towards others.
    • Quote: “Everyone here has a wonderful shape that’s perfectly them...just know that you’re amazing inside and out.” – Kyle (36:54)

Iconic Jeans, Styles & Segments (41:22–47:00)

• Play a segment: “Skinny or Boot Cut?”
  • Consensus: Boot cut is more forgiving; skinny jeans may be coming back.
• Another segment: “Hottest Celeb in Jeans?”
  • James Dean is the unanimous classic pick, with references to Cindy Crawford’s iconic Pepsi ad and the low-rise era.

Denim Culture Around the World (47:01–51:04)

• Discuss “Canadian tuxedo” (matching denim outfit).
• Jeans as an American icon (cultural export, connection to cowboys and Bruce Springsteen).
• Aussie equivalents: Flip-flops (“thongs”), board shorts, and surfwear like Mambo (Claudia’s dad designed for them).
• Quote: “I just imagined everybody in Australia walking around in thongs. That would boost tourism through the roof.” – Beck (48:43)

Fashion Mishaps, Tailoring, and a Podcast “Miracle” (51:04–56:07)

• Beck and Kyle offer to sponsor Claudia to get a pair of perfectly tailored jeans.
  • Quote: “We would like to sponsor a tailored pair of jeans for you.” – Kyle (51:29)
  • Claudia is game, saying, “If we make this happen, would you feel comfortable sharing a photo?” – “Absolutely.”
• Dream of a “miracle jeans makeover” podcast, like Property Brothers but for denim.

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Reflections, Friendship, and Authenticity (56:07–61:32)

• The trio reflect on the experience, earnest about how much they enjoyed learning more about each other and being a little more vulnerable—even when goofing around.
  • Quote: “I saw a different side of you that I’ve never seen before. It was great.” – Beck (60:45)
• Claudia shares that her father literally only wears one outfit—a white t-shirt, black jeans, black boots, every day—even to the beach and to bed, which has left a dark patch on the mattress.
• They discuss making the jeans-tailoring promise real, and hope to have Claudia back for an update.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (W/ Timestamps)

• On the show’s format:
  “The premise of the podcast is that we don't know what our podcast is.” (30:14)
• Claudia on Levi’s jeans:
  “All I want is to look normal in jeans. I can imagine never getting to do that.” (35:38)
• Kyle’s jean-positivity:
  “Everyone here has a wonderful shape that’s perfectly them and looks awesome... you're amazing inside and out.” (36:54)
• On iconic jeans moments:
  “James Dean is the unanimous classic pick... with references to Cindy Crawford’s iconic Pepsi ad.” (41:22–43:07)
• Podcast transformation offer:
  “We would like to sponsor a tailored pair of jeans for you.” – Kyle (51:29)
• Claudia’s dad’s uniform:
  “He has one outfit. He wears every–he wears the same outfit every single day…” (46:37)

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Tone & Style

The episode is loose, rambling, and improvisational. There are countless goofy asides, improvised games/segments, playful roasts, and meta-commentary on “how to make a podcast.” Yet, there’s a genuine warmth between the hosts and Claudia, as they open up about self-perception, nostalgia, and creative journeys.

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Summing Up: Why Listen?

If you enjoy the slightly chaotic, self-aware humor of SNL alums, want to hear three comedians riff on everything from family to jeans to pop culture, and appreciate a podcast where the process of making the show becomes part of the comedy, this episode is a standout. Claudia O'Doherty fits seamlessly into Beck and Kyle’s odd-couple energy, and the “jeans” premise brings out stories, insecurities, and laughs.

No, they don’t actually decide what the podcast should be—but that's the point.

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Timeline of Key Segments

• 00:36–07:00: Opening banter, show dynamic, producer-jokes, intros
• 07:00–10:29: Reflecting on previous episodes & podcasting style
• 10:29–15:00: Commercials and impressions (“It’s Dumas,” “I ate the bones”)
• 15:05: Claudia arrives; podcast-listening discussion
• 19:00–24:09: Artistic family, comedy origins, moving countries
• 26:10–28:37: Sketch group “Pig Island,” partying/comedy festivals
• 31:13–41:21: “Jeans” podcast segment begins—personal jeans journeys
• 41:22–47:00: Style debates, iconic jean moments, body positivity
• 47:01–51:04: Denim culture US vs. Australia, flip-flops, board shorts
• 51:04–56:07: Tailoring promise, “miracle” jeans makeover idea
• 56:07–61:32: Reflections, vulnerability, Claudia’s dad’s uniform
• 61:32–63:00: Episode wind-down, thank-yous, and wrap-up

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Memorable Moments to Queue:

• Claudia reveals her complicated feelings about Levi’s jeans (35:02–36:40).
• The trio riff on denim’s cultural status, US vs Australia (47:01–49:30).
• Claudia describes her dad's monochrome wardrobe (46:37–47:01).

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Episode Takeaways:
Endlessly playful, gently self-mocking, and surprisingly sincere, this episode shows Beck and Kyle’s love of the absurd and the personal. Claudia O'Doherty is game for all of it, and by the end, you want her to get those perfect jeans—and to come back for another round.

Transcript

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We're live.

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Oh, yeah.

[B]

I guess we didn't play the intro song. Do you want to hear?

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Well, that's how we start our show, so. Yeah.

[C]

What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? I love that part of the song.

[A]

Anya, I didn't mean anything by that. I was being silly.

[C]

What you got, what you guys didn't see off camera is we started recording the podcast, and we were like, are we rolling? Are we live? And our producer, Anya said, yes. And then. And then she was like, oh, do you want to play the song? Or whatever. And Kyle was like, well, that's how we start our podcast. And really laid into her. It was really, like, intense and kind of scary.

[A]

If it felt that way, I apologize.

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That's okay. Also, we don't have to recap it because we were recording it.

[C]

Oh, so you guys heard all that crap?

[B]

They saw it.

[A]

I would like. If there's, like, a comment section in this YouTube video, one, I want to genuinely say, I apologize, but can. Can people. Can people rewind and watch it and to see if Beck's impression of me is accurate or not, because to me, I feel like it's a little exaggerated.

[C]

And let us know in the comments if it's exaggerated or not. If you guys could pause for a.

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Little bit, we can kind of put both play both side by side in a picture. In picture.

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And we're playing them now. Here's Kyle.

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Well, that's how we start our show, so.

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And here's Beck. Well, that's how we start our podcast. Pretty good.

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And here's Michael Keaton as Batman.

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Oh, yeah, we can't play that. Here's something that happened during all this. I opened this little energy bar to finish it, and it slipped out and bobbled onto the floor. And now I'm standing.

[A]

And now it looks like we got dookie in the house.

[C]

It did pop out like a little dookie. Oh, and here it is. This is kind of like the babe Ruth moment. Baby Ruth moment in Caddyshack. Tastes pretty good. You know, that's Bill Murray eating it after they clean the pool. And that's me, the human vacuum cleaner, everybody. Oh, fuck you. Yeah, honestly, I will. I actually did think this was poop about that. Yeah. I was just like, well, I'm. Have a bite of that. So it's all good here at the podcast. As usual, Kyle, you're making a face that makes me think you're thinking about something.

[A]

Oh, I'm thinking, all right. What just happened?

[C]

I like the idea that there's a part of you that's constantly like, what the. That's like your. I feel like this is not your alter ego, but just like, you have two sides of your head.

[A]

I think this is my intro Persona. Lot of what? Beck sort of Becks at it again.

[C]

Yeah. And I. I don't know what mine would be. It kind of be like, what was that? What did you just do there? And do you want, like, apologize for that? And you're not allowed to do that? And you're kind of like, what is Beck doing? But I wonder.

[A]

Such. Of like, cl. Great dynamic.

[C]

Yeah. Abbott and Costello style. Kind of like mod.

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More like mod.

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Classic Abbott and.

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More or less mod.

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A classic duo. Abbott and Costello mod.

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Is that ma. Like, there was like a 70s TV show like Harold.

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I was thinking Harold and Mod, but I said, yeah, first.

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Welcome to the show.

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Yeah, there's gonna be a whole lot. There's gonna be a whole lot more of that, folks. I think I might say that every show too. Hey, buckle up. Make sure you were buckled up into your. Into your car, where you're hopefully watching the podcast. Speeding down the street. Make sure to buckle up because you're gonna crash because there's gonna be A hole has spoken.

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One of these is gonna hit.

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Yeah, one of these is gonna hit.

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I like some salad in my.

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I've got some shit in my teeth. That little dookie that I picked up off the floor.

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It's not a. It's not a show for you. For the youngins, folks. Put the kids to bed. Mom and dad. Bye. Bye.

[C]

Time to have a go.

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How do you feel that?

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Our last episode.

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V. Look at that one. Ew, dude, that's freaking wet.

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Ew.

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Nice and green. Like Sl.

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Claudia's gonna sit there. Our guest is gonna sit. Ew. Damn.

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Now she doesn't have to deal with it. I'm the human vacuum cleaner.

[C]

So when you said he's the human vacuum cleaner before, were you talking about yourself? Or we.

[A]

I was talking about you at the time, but now I've. I've sort of taken the mantle, I.

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Guess we both are. Like, maybe that's a thing I do. If food hits the floor, we just gobble it up.

[A]

Do you find yourself finishing your child's food a lot? Like the leftovers?

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Yes. And sometimes that makes you the human vacuum cleaner. So that's like a little. That's maybe a joke that you have at home. Like you're the. Kyle's. The human vacuum cleaner. You're just gonna. Just gonna kinda lick everything up.

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I thought our episode with Tim Bolt. Episode two.

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Yes.

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Was great.

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I thought it was. I had a great time. You know, if we're. If we're. Hang on. What? No, wait, our. We are producers.

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What did I say?

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Bolt. I feel it's not.

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It did sound.

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I think. I actually think we got to go to the. I think we got to let the comment.

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All right, so this is how Kyle said it.

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Tim Bolt.

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And you be the judge. Leave it in the comments. What do you think? Did Kyle say Balt or Baltz?

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I have an initial thought.

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Yeah, let's. Let's talk.

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What I liked about what was interesting to me, our first episode was our friend Fran Gillespie. Like, we immediately have a rapport.

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Right.

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We sort of like know each other's. Forgive me. Like rhythms to some degree or Personas.

[C]

Yeah. So names and everything.

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Well, I know my name. You're not gonna call human vacuum cleaner.

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Right. She knows you as the human vacuum cleaner.

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But, you know, there's a level of comfort there. Tim. I. I met him a couple times. You'd never. I didn't realize you'd never met him.

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Yeah, yeah, never met him.

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But you guys immediately kicked it off. I thought of the wet. The Wet Dreams. Yeah, the Wet Dream. The Wet Dream Brothers.

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What Dream Brothers, I think. Yeah.

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That was great. That was. You guys were crushing it.

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Thank you.

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Well, I had to sort of be like, I just gotta, you know, I. I gotta let them play because this. It's going. It's. It's going well.

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Thank you for let. Just getting out of the way for once.

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Yeah.

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Just letting us do our thing and you know, that's gonna. Might be a feature of the show where you're just kind. Yeah, that's kind of sitting there like, kind of being like trying to figure out how to get in. And you're kind of like, yeah, it's.

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A good idea for a future.

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No, you. And you did a fantastic job. So many questions. Great questions. You Know, I. Something that is. You know, our partners are often mirrors to us and show us the things that we do. I feel like something that my wife. Her name is Jesse. Jesse. Like, I think sometimes I relate to people by sharing similar experiences as opposed to asking questions.

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Right.

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So I will relate similar experiences to create conversation as opposed to asking questions. So that's something. That's something that I'm going to work on.

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I'm a little shy to talk about myself unless I really have to.

[C]

Yeah. And we want to open that up. That's something we want to see more of. We want to see more.

[A]

And I. I feel like I've used this phrase before and it's not the right word. I do. It's like an ego. It feels like I'm being egotistical by, like, talking about who I. My accomplishments or what I've done. You know what I mean?

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Yeah. Like, I like blue cars.

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And that's not me also. That's not me coming down on you.

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No, no. Yeah.

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That's just how I perceive it.

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Totally understand personally. But people want to know you. People want to hear. They want to hear about your experience.

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I'll work on that.

[C]

Yeah. Okay, great. Well, we both have something to work on moving forward. I also gotta say, I think that we. I thought that studying abroad was a great podcast, and I felt like that was a high note and we could have ended there without the wrap up. Yeah.

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Something to be. Something to be.

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Something.

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Something to consider. Something to be. Do we need the wrap up and.

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We'Re gonna find out. Yeah, we'll see.

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Do you want to say right now what we're going to do or do you want to come up with in the moment? Should we say that? I also wanted to pitch. Tim came with us to the wrap up. I think there's a version where we don't have the guest on us during the wrap up.

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Sure. Well, because it's.

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Yeah. And I see one of our producers nodding. Yes.

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That could be. That could be a thing. Because it's. It's where we're. We're building up into this. This, you know, world of genuinely trying to figure out our podcast. And then we give it a shot and then we bring the energy back down. Yeah. And I feel like it's. You wanna. You wanna soar into the sky like a big eagle and just take off and come back down and land and look at the little eggs in the nest. Does that make. Is that a good analogy? I don't know if that actually.

[A]

That's something People say Professor Beck, classes and such.

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Spoken again. For some reason, that reminds me of some ad campaign where it's like a Zen thing, but it's like a drink. You know what I'm talking about?

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So be. Maybe Sierra Mist.

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Oh, yeah. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know.

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You know my. You know what my favorite commercial is?

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Let's go.

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It's Dumas.

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Wait, that's a commercial?

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Yes, yes.

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I honestly, that's like a classic comedy line to me.

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It's Dumas.

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What. What commercials that we're gonna.

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Might have to look the A and W Root beer. Wow.

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Wow.

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Who say are the ad wizards?

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Yeah. You know, one of my favorite ones is.

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And for those of you who haven't seen it, check it out. You'll be very interested to hear what the. The guy who's doing the job interview. What he. What he calls the guy he's being interviewed by.

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Yeah, it's gonna. You're gonna be. You're gonna be in for a little treat.

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It's Dumas.

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It's Dumas.

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Can we do a little. Me, you. I'll do my. And having not watched the commercial in years, I'll do an impression. I'll do my version of what I think it is, you do yours, and.

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Then we'll see it in the middle. Yeah, yeah. Ready? Okay, ready?

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Because I. I feel like I'm going.

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A little over right now. Are we in a wide? Maybe. And then it's gonna play in between us.

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I could do a close up for.

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Each and then do the wide with it. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

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Okay. I'll go first. Okay. I think I'm gonna go a little more subtle than what I've been doing.

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Okay, great.

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Okay, It's Dumas.

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Okay, It's Dumas. I don't remember.

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That's good though. Your nose flare was.

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Yeah, the name is Dumas. Okay, now, and I do have to say one of my favorite commercials is I ate the Bones.

[A]

I don't know if I know.

[C]

That resonated with Casey. You know, I ate the bones. Yeah, Casey's one of the guys who ate the bones. I'm one of those guys. Kfc, they're promoting boneless wings.

[A]

What year are we talking?

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This was after our KFC commercial.

[A]

Oh, so we're talking like this the late aughts.

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Yeah, yeah. And it's. And it's like he's sitting there eating with his friends. He's like, oh, that's so good. And then he looks down in the empty plate and he's like, oh, No, I ate the bones. I ate the bones.

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And, Casey, you really do love this one.

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I remember it, and it's pretty accurate. I think it sounds just like. Can we.

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Can we get one more? And we'll do a side by side of you?

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And.

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And I've never seen it, but I'll.

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Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, so I'll go first this time. So I was like, I hate the bones. I ate the bones. And then it runs out.

[A]

Okay, I'm. I don't know that I've ever seen this commercial, but I'm going off of Beck as a master impressionist, so I'm going to take from his cues and hope that maybe just my. My vehicle, if you will, maybe brings me a little closer just in terms of my delivery, if that makes any sense.

[C]

That doesn't make any sense to me.

[A]

But what I'm trying to say is that, like, I'm gonna. I'm a. I'm gonna try to copy you, but I won't be able to do it the exact same, but because I'm a little off, and maybe you're a little off from the original. Maybe my little off is actually closer to the original.

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Okay.

[A]

Hey, wait. That's what I do. No, you should be able to. You should be allowed to. Okay, now I'm just nervous.

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Get ready for this one, man.

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You're gonna be better at it than me, man.

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You make a good point.

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I just had a thing.

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No, that's very cool.

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I already forgot the.

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I ate the bones. I ate the bones. So, like. And action.

[A]

You're eating it like it's a rip, but it's a. It's like a drumstick.

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It's like a breast chicken. No, it's like a chicken wing.

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Oh, okay.

[C]

On the swings.

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Tiny.

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Yeah.

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Okay. I ate the bones. I ate the bones.

[C]

I ate the bones. That was fantastic. And now let's see. Let's see the commercial.

[A]

I think I ate the bones. I ate the bones. And you guys.

[C]

Tell us, Tell us. I think it's probably over now.

[A]

Okay. Should we just get into it?

[C]

Yeah, I think we're. That's 15 minutes.

[A]

We got a. We got an amazing guest for you all today. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Claudio Darity.

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Oh, my God.

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Thank you for being.

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Finally.

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Finally.

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You're on our podcast.

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You have a podcast.

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Have you been waiting for us to have a podcast?

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Yeah.

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That is such great news.

[A]

What is. How. Do you listen to a lot of podcasts?

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No. You know, I do some. I listen to some.

[C]

Yeah.

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Not so much funny podcasts.

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Informational.

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Informational.

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Murder.

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Some murder. No, no, no. Murder recently, though.

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Okay, good.

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No reason.

[A]

So let's say on a monthly basis, how often do you think you listen to a podcast?

[B]

I'd say almost daily. But it's just, like, boring things, right?

[A]

You know, can you tell us one? Sort of. Or you don't. You don't have to.

[B]

It's all really private and I totally respect that.

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I'm not giving up my POD history. I'm not. I'm not sharing that.

[A]

Well, we. Well, we know from episode one of our podcast that he's a smartless head.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, I'm a smart. Little sad. I think Kyle is, too. Yeah, they're fantastic. And I wanted to call this smart list, too.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[C]

Because there's two of us and we don't know. And we don't know what our. Smart more.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Smart more, too. Smart more too.

[B]

Well, could it. Yeah, you don't need to be two. Yeah.

[C]

Because it's a sequel or whatever. There's two of us.

[B]

Yeah, no, that's exactly why it should be Smart more too.

[A]

Yeah, that's actually really, really interesting. I was actually going to ask about that.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. Do you think it.

[A]

Yeah, we were asking. I was going to ask her.

[C]

Oh, here we go again, folks.

[A]

Claudia, you might. Yeah. You might notice some. How do we say? Drama?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. You're in for one hell of a ride.

[B]

This is one of those drama tea podcasts.

[A]

Drama tea.

[C]

We're going to tell. We're going to get. Absolutely.

[A]

There's. Before we hear.

[C]

I stopped the sentence. I, like, drifted off, and then I didn't finish it because it wasn't going anywhere.

[B]

You bailed.

[C]

Yeah, I bailed on that sentence. All right, so go ahead, Kyle. Do what you were gonna do.

[A]

Okay. Thank you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Thank you for being here.

[B]

Thank you. I'm so excited to be here on the podcast.

[A]

You know, one of the. One of the sort of, I guess, hallmarks or like this consistent thing I've seen with POD or notice in podcasts is obviously there's a lot of, like, people bring on. On guests. Right.

[C]

And of course.

[A]

And I'm sure you've. You've guessed it on, I imagine, thousands. Is that a lot?

[B]

Many. Yeah.

[A]

And I. And like, I've guessed it on them. And I think there's always like a sort of, like, how much does the interviewer actually know about me versus not. Right. How much are they fully bullshitting? How much of my work have they consumed?

[B]

Yes. Yeah. Do they just need people to come on their show? Because it's been on for five years, Right. And they've heard there's a new person in town, so they've summoned you, but actually they know nothing about.

[A]

And then you just bullshit for an hour like that. Must have been crazy, right?

[B]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

[A]

Here's what I. I will say. I feel like I've known you a decent amount of time, and I consider you a friend.

[B]

I consider you a friend, Kyle.

[C]

I consider you a great friend.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

Even better than what you and Kyle have going on.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Whoa. But that's just. That doesn't mean you can say. No. Whatever.

[A]

You. However, you can sort of categorize it however you want to rank it.

[C]

Rank it.

[A]

But number one, I. I will say I've done a minimal amount of research on. On you to prepare for today, but.

[B]

Great.

[A]

With that being said, I was. I learned so many new things about you that I. I've known you for so long that I never knew.

[B]

Like what?

[A]

Well, I'm gonna start with the most obvious. That. I feel like maybe it's not the most obvious, but, like, maybe this is a. A subject that is brought up a lot when people talk to you. Your father being in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm gonna categorize them as a. New wave.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Band. Is that fair?

[B]

I think that's fair to say. Australian party rock. New Wave.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

They're. The band name is. We have. I have it in the notes, but.

[B]

Do you want me to say it? I know it.

[A]

Can I do me to guess it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's. It's like it's three words.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Peter, Paul, and Mary.

[B]

That's four words.

[A]

You're actually very. You're quick at math.

[B]

Thank you. Yeah.

[C]

Crap. I never thought I was in the top 2%.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's like I'm. I'm not gonna get it, but I'm. Be as close as possible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anything but pencil.

[B]

Well, you got one word correct.

[A]

Is it anything?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. What is it?

[B]

It's in the. You're in the wrong section.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's mental as anything.

[A]

Mental as anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Which I feel like now I'm hearing you say it. Like I. I get it more than I. Than reading it.

[B]

Yes. I mean, I. To me. Because obviously the band existed before I was born. Those three words together, like, I've actually never thought about what that means.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Mental is anything. But I. Because it's just like one word to me. And it's like, that's my Dad's job.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Wow.

[B]

But it actually, I guess it means, like, really crazy, right?

[A]

This is as crazy as anything.

[B]

Like, exactly.

[A]

Yeah. I wonder, is that, like, our music is as crazy as anything or like, hey, we're taking a stab at the music thing. This is as crazy as anything else.

[B]

Well, they were all in art school when they started, so they were, like, really young and they started playing at parties and then they became really quite successful.

[C]

And they're really good.

[A]

The very minimal amount I've listened to, they're great.

[C]

So what was that like? Like, was he touring a lot?

[B]

He was touring a lot. I think that was very taxing for him because he missed his children so much.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And for us it was, like, exciting. Sometimes we'd get to go places with them and that was really cool. Also, it meant he would bring us back presents. But I think for him it was sad because he liked his, like, you know, young family.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you musical?

[B]

Not at all. I took piano lessons, harmonica lessons, and I wanted to do guitar lessons as well. My dad plays the guitar, so he tried to teach me. I can't do any of it.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Dang. Yeah, that would have been awesome.

[B]

And I can't sing either, but I love to sing, but I can't sing.

[C]

You have a very artistic family.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

You are an actor, performer, writer. You do the comedy stuff, as we all know for sure. But who knows what other kind of chops you have inside of you. Which is a weird way to say it, I understand, but. And your sister is a painter.

[B]

She is. She's a very gifted artist.

[C]

She is. I've seen her work.

[B]

You could consider her to be more Nepo than me because I've gone into a different field in a different country.

[C]

In a different country.

[A]

Well, that's. This was something I wanted to ask you.

[C]

And. Yeah.

[A]

You started out doing comedy in Australia.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you went to the uk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now you're in the us.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I imagine you've gotten a sense of all of those scenes to some degree, surely.

[B]

Definitely.

[A]

Broadly. And forgive me for putting you on the spot. How do you compare them?

[B]

I would say Australia has like a healthy, stand up, live comedy scene, but like alternative comedy, which was probably more what I was doing, is a bit like when I first started doing it, it's like, what are you doing?

[A]

It's like. It's like mental as anything.

[B]

Exactly. It was mental as anything.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And. But there's like a big festival scene in Australia, so I would do like, the comedy Festival in Melbourne, you know, stuff like that. And then I would go, But London is a huge major metropolitan city. I'm not sure if you know that much about it, but it's got, like a huge scene for everyone and a thriving industry that will support that scene.

[C]

There's someone.

[B]

That's part of why I went over there.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And then I got a job in Los Angeles, so it brought me over here.

[C]

Was that job love?

[B]

It was love. The TV show.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. You're in it. Are you in it?

[C]

I don't think so.

[B]

Are you in it, Kyle?

[C]

No.

[B]

Damn. But I think I met you at, like, a love dinner.

[C]

Yes. At the Standard.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

In Hollywood.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it was season one, maybe season. I feel like it was, like, hadn't been released yet.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And that's when we met.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I fell. I fell in love with you then. And so did America. Yes. You do. You have a very. You have a very. What's. What's the word?

[A]

Sort of mental as anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You have a mental as anything kind of quality to you. Like a little bit Australian, a little bit uk, a little bit American.

[B]

Do I have a uk? Do I have any uk?

[C]

No, you don't.

[A]

No.

[C]

I think you're too. I think you're. I. I think you. Because, honestly, I would think of UK people as being a little bit more uptight.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And.

[B]

And you are ever so proper.

[C]

Yes. And ever so proper. But, yeah, I don't.

[A]

I just don't even think about that stuff.

[C]

You think about more San Diego stuff.

[A]

Oh, my God, dude, don't get me started on. Yes. Have you been in San Diego?

[C]

You love a huge burrito. No, some people. People think. Yeah, Just one. I'm from Chicago.

[A]

Well, I put, you know, I do these San Diego sketches.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And Beck played my buddy in them, so.

[B]

Did you ever live in San Diego?

[C]

No, I just went to San Diego to shoot the first one so that I could get a feel for.

[B]

That's what's confused me.

[C]

Yes. Yeah.

[A]

And you know, now, I guess probably you've lived in LA since. For. Well, you've been in and around LA for two decades now. I feel like the Southern California connection has maybe seeped into. Into you.

[C]

Yeah. What do you. Do you think it has?

[B]

Yeah, I think you're so Southern California.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You've got that vibe.

[C]

Yes. Cali vibe, but a little bit of Chicago maybe. Or is it gone? I don't go back anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't go back. My family doesn't live there, so I don't go back.

[B]

They don't?

[C]

No, they. My. Yeah. My brothers don't live there. My parents don't live.

[B]

Where'd they go?

[C]

My parents. Parents are in Carbondale. My younger brother's in Denver, which are both in Colorado.

[B]

Carbondale, Colorado.

[C]

Colorado. And my older brother is in Oakland and he's an artist.

[B]

Oh, yeah, we know that.

[C]

So we both have sibling artists.

[B]

That's how we connect in many ways.

[C]

Yeah. So I've totally. I've totally. I basically went to Hollywood and I turned my back on my hometown.

[B]

Yeah, I guess. Me too.

[C]

Yeah. Feels pretty good.

[A]

Welcome back to Learned about these two and their wild, wild ways.

[C]

Thanks for bringing us back.

[A]

I was wondering. Oh, man, I hope I didn't just lose my train. Okay. Yes, I remember what I wanted to ask you.

[C]

You found your train.

[A]

Okay. And hopefully, again, going off of the research that I'm trying. Yeah, I have. I've not looked at these papers yet. I read stuff yesterday.

[B]

Oh, that's amazing.

[A]

And I want to know if I recall it, a couple people, as I understood it in a group that the name was something like Pig Island.

[B]

That's the name.

[A]

And is that a sketch group?

[B]

It was a sketch group, yeah.

[A]

And did you put on shows? Did you make videos? What did you do?

[B]

We put on shows. We do sketches. They came up with the name when I was away, so I don't. I don't feel connected to the name particularly. Yeah, it was me and Nick Coyle and Charlie Garber. We all went to college together.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. We started, I guess, when we were in college and we do sketch shows. We take them to do them at comedy festivals. We partied hard in college.

[C]

For sure, we did, too.

[B]

But I met Charlie when I was in high school, so we were partying even then.

[A]

What's partying? Like, what is partying? No, not generally. Like, kind of where you're from.

[C]

Like, what does it just mean, like, jumping around or screaming?

[B]

Jumping around. Drinking beers, sometimes drinking goon.

[A]

What is goon?

[B]

That's just like wine in a bag that's in a box.

[C]

We would drink.

[A]

Wait, is that. Are those beers?

[B]

Tuis.

[A]

Yeah, I played.

[C]

Yeah, I played an Australian in a sketch of ours.

[B]

I haven't seen that one.

[C]

You haven't seen that?

[B]

I'm really so sorry about that.

[C]

I think you should check it out.

[B]

Send it to me.

[A]

What was like a. What's like a classic Pig island bit?

[B]

We would. There was one where we had this sketch where it ended with a dance to Honey to the honey to The Bee by. Is that Mandy Moore? Is that Billy? It's Billy Piper. You don't know her?

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

English pop star.

[A]

Oh, we wish.

[C]

Honey to the Bee.

[B]

Yeah. You'd like it.

[A]

Pop song.

[B]

It's a pop song. So it's pretty much like all of our sketches ended with a dance, but then begin very differently. I was like a drunk mom. I can't really remember, but I was wearing a top hat.

[C]

That is fun. A drunk mom with a top hat. A crew.

[B]

We probably were a crew for, like, three years.

[A]

What was the peak?

[C]

What.

[A]

What would you say was, like, the peak of success? Excuse me? If that's a.

[B]

Well, we were, like, winning awards at the comedy festival, so we were like, wow, we're winning the awards. Let's keep going.

[A]

Can I say genuinely, sincerely, congratulations, because I don't know you as a collaborator in that realm. I know you as Claudia, this very funny person. You've. You did it.

[B]

Thank you. I appreciate that. That's nice.

[C]

Yeah. You're welcome.

[B]

Congratulations to both of you as well.

[C]

Thanks.

[B]

Because you're all both really funny and good.

[A]

I think you're really, really good, too.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

Very funny. How are we doing?

[C]

How is this?

[A]

How are you doing? How do you feel? We're doing that.

[B]

Feel great. Love it. When did you first start this podcast? Like, today or yesterday?

[C]

This is our third episode.

[B]

Exciting.

[A]

Our very first episode was months ago. We've been. We've been sort of sitting on it. Life.

[B]

Who's the guest?

[A]

Well, Fran Gillespie was our first.

[B]

I was like, fran's got to be on this show.

[A]

And our. Our second guest was Tim Bolt.

[B]

I know. I saw him in the Cop Hawk.

[A]

No, you weren't supposed to see him.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

But, yeah, it's. It's. Oh, see, now I'll say. I'm trying to talk as myself.

[B]

You're doing it.

[A]

Okay. It's been a fun experience. It's sort of. I think I used this phrase in the first. In the first episode. It's uncharted territory.

[B]

Because you're being yourself on the podcast. Is that why?

[A]

Well, no, I'm actually still in disguise as the human vacuum cleaner.

[C]

And I'm King Aqua.

[B]

Oh, my God, I love these characters.

[A]

Well, I do feel like we should. The premise of the podcast is that we don't know what our podcast is.

[C]

Yeah, we're trying to figure it out.

[A]

So we've invited you here today, Claudia, to. To pitch us an idea.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For a podcast.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What are you. Are you ready to tell us what you think of.

[B]

I'm ready.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I think your podcast should be about jeans.

[C]

Jeans. Great. Amazing.

[B]

Denim. Denim. Not like, in your body or whatever.

[A]

Oh, with a J. Yeah. Because. Is there other. I mean, we get into this when we start the podcast. Not started.

[B]

This is not the jeans podcast.

[A]

There are non. Non denim jeans. Or they just.

[B]

Well, I just meant, like, not G, E, N, G S. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

G, E, N, E, S. Oh, like jeans. Yeah, like the jeans. Yeah. What did you think she meant when she said.

[A]

I knew exactly what she meant.

[C]

I meant I. I figured jeans.

[B]

It's got to be those.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, great. Well, we're going to be right back with our new podcast, Jeans. Oh, my God. What's up, everybody? Kyle Mooney here. What's going on?

[C]

Oh, that was.

[A]

What's going on. What's up, Big Bennett over here?

[C]

I'm just like. We're kind of a regular sized. Actually, I'm like 5, 8, maybe 196.

[A]

How you been, man? I feel like I'm not.

[C]

I'm feeling.

[A]

I'm not seeing you in a week. Minute.

[C]

Yeah, I feel like I haven't seen you in a minute either. Where have you been? Where have you been?

[A]

I have been kicking it hanging. I was actually with some friends the other day, which is really fun.

[C]

That's so fun. We had it like a restaurant or we, you know, I don't fully recall.

[A]

I know we were kicking in hangings.

[C]

That was one of those nights partying.

[A]

What do you mean?

[C]

Yeah, it sounds like it was one of those nights.

[A]

No.

[C]

Where you don't remember what was happening.

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay, well, that's. I stand corrected. That's not what it was. I stand correct.

[A]

Always good catching up with you, man.

[C]

Always good catching up. Anyway, you know the show.

[A]

It's Jeans.

[C]

Jeans. That's what it's all about. You told us.

[B]

Jeans.

[C]

That's what little talk about with Beck and Kyle. Okay.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Now we can keep them. Now we can take them off.

[B]

I just wanted to hear it. Yeah.

[A]

I'm starting to get to hear the theme song.

[B]

I just heard the first bit, and it sounded like someone. It had come out of someone's body.

[A]

It's sort of a farty.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So to hear that at a low volume, I was like, what's happening? And then I realized, well, yeah, that.

[A]

Might not have been coming from the headphones.

[C]

Kyle makes beats from his body.

[A]

Oh, cool.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. So he actually made the. You make. You make.

[A]

I make beans from my body.

[C]

You make beans from your body.

[A]

Okay, just ignore That I said, what.

[C]

The hell is going on? This is the jeans podcast, not Kyle's body, not the beans.

[A]

This is the jeans podcast, not the beans. Okay.

[C]

All right.

[A]

It's good to be back.

[C]

It's good to be back on the jeans podcast. Thank you so much for being here. We have an incredible guest.

[A]

Incredible guest. Got her start with a really amazing group, Pig Island. She hails, comes from an artistic family in Australia. Dad toured with Mental as anything.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And.

[C]

And she came and then she went to the UK and then she came here to the US she won awards. She won awards. She's been on screens all sizes and shapes. Yeah, we love her. She lights up a room. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Claudio Doherty.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I just can't wait to get into the jeans.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's so exciting to have you on. On jeans. Yeah, yeah. Let's go ahead and just get right into it.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Well, favorite, Favorite brand of jeans.

[B]

Well, I wish I could say Levi's, but I can't.

[C]

Wow. Okay, now. Okay, now. Why not?

[A]

Okay. Respect.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

You have gone after the sacred.

[C]

We do a of Levi's ads here, so we're sorry. I see, I see the little tag.

[B]

Are you wearing jeans?

[C]

No, these are more of like a cloth type thing.

[A]

It's. We always do. Only one of us wears jeans on the show.

[B]

Yeah, this is one in jeans.

[C]

Yeah, one in jeans.

[A]

Great cloth pants, by the way. This is what those are some great cloth pants.

[C]

Thanks, man. I've been having. I had them for a long time.

[A]

You don't like Levi?

[B]

Well, they just don't really look good on me.

[C]

Okay. Okay. You don't have to go into why if you don't want to. But is there.

[A]

Is that third leg?

[B]

I think I've got like boyish hips. Narrow, narrow hips.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And the jeans aren't really made for my body shape, but I like jeans. I've got some.

[A]

Okay, so is there another brand you do like or is it just like on a kind of. On a jeans by jeans basis?

[B]

Like it's going to be jeans by jeans for me. I'm not like. Yeah. I don't have a particular brand.

[C]

Not a particular.

[B]

But I wish I could get away with a great pair of Levi's.

[C]

Got it.

[B]

All I want is to look normal in jeans.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Really?

[B]

That's all I want. I. I can imagine never getting to do that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Well, it's like.

[C]

Well, I, I. Yes. Go.

[A]

Can I relate?

[C]

Yeah, you relate. Yeah, you relate.

[B]

Let's see let's see you relate. Let's see.

[A]

Let's see you try to relate to me with. That reminds me of is. Do you know when you're sick?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then all of a sudden it gives you a new appreciation for when you're healthy.

[B]

Oh, yeah, definitely.

[A]

It's like, I don't know what it's like to not be able to wear jeans.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Because he's just like a jean man, you know, I do wear jeans a lot.

[A]

I'm not saying that I'm like, like the king of jeans or the king of beans, for that matter, but I.

[C]

Would say you're more of a jean guy than any of my friends.

[A]

I would believe that. But you really.

[C]

I actually do think that. And I mean, for me, I've had only maybe a couple pairs of jeans and a lot of black jeans. I don't like the blue. I think it highlights my legs in a way that I don't love. Yeah. I always like to say that I have donkey legs. They kind of go in like that.

[A]

Can I. I feel like, you know, I just want to say I want to be body positive here for a moment.

[C]

And I love. We love.

[A]

I feel like everyone here, it has a wonderful shape that's perfectly them and looks awesome. And I. I hope you all forgive yourselves and just know that you're amazing in inside and out.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

That is really nice.

[C]

That is very nice also.

[B]

Prove it.

[C]

Yeah, prove it.

[B]

Find me a pair of blue jeans. Because that's the thing. Blue jeans. That's the American classic. It is. That's the iconic look. You're James Dean in a pair of blue jeans. Right.

[C]

And if you're not.

[B]

But if you can't get ones, you're like, I guess I'm not cool.

[C]

I guess I'm mom jeans or dad jeans or little. Or little dungarees jeans. Yeah. Loser jeans.

[B]

Like, it sucks. It sounds like you get to wear whatever you want.

[C]

Yeah. Any type of jeans looks nice on there.

[A]

Thank you. You're welcome. That's actually really cool to hear. I was not expecting anything like that today.

[C]

Sorry.

[A]

Now I'm like, oh, where do I go?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. But jeans.

[A]

I don't. I don't feel. I. I think you're. I. I love. Again, not. I don't want to turn this into getting upset. I think you look great. You've. I've. You look great in pants and jeans. And I. I feel bad that you are self conscious at all because you got a nice, nice butt.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

I got a nice I'm pretty flat down there.

[C]

Yeah. I've got a nice chunker. But it's something about the legs.

[B]

I've never thought you had donkey legs. Not once. And maybe that's because you're dressing in a way to correct that.

[C]

I'm camouflaging them.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not drawing attention to the donkey.

[B]

Yeah. I've never known it. True. Do you ever wear shorts?

[C]

I do, I wear. I wear. No, I don't wear jean shorts, but I was looking at a pair recently.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And some like, kind of janko style, like.

[B]

And that means you're quite big and long, right?

[C]

Yeah, that's too big for me. But I would be down to go like two right around the knee for like a nice thick pair of jean shorts. And not self cut, not cut at home, but like hemmed.

[B]

Hemmed professionally.

[A]

Well, that actually brings us to. To our.

[B]

Our.

[A]

One of our favorite segments.

[B]

Do I put these on?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah. You want to hear? Yeah, here we go. We all know it.

[A]

Skinny or boot cut?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What was the first word?

[A]

Skinny or boot cut?

[B]

Oh, skinny or boot cut.

[C]

So you're not even talking. Yeah. And that's not. Don't confuse it with wide leg or relaxed. We're talking boot cut.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So, so what do you. So obviously you're not really a jean person, but if, like when one of these.

[A]

You're stuck on a desert island.

[B]

Yeah, but it's a cold. So you should wear jeans rather than just.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

50S.

[C]

So you're stuck on the island. What are you gonna wear? Skinny jeans or bootcut? Jeans.

[B]

I'd go for bootcut. I would go for bootcut. If you. You can't really wear skinny, can I?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Skinny is. Here's the thing.

[C]

Skinny's out.

[A]

Skinny might be coming back in, though. I think that skinny.

[B]

Let's say this is really the place to come to find that out.

[A]

And I. And I do actually have some inside info. I was speaking to somebody, I would say, in the last three or four weeks. Oh, my God, listen. This coming from a guy. I made a movie called Y2K.

[C]

Right, right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this was a moment in time, the late 90s, early 2000s, where everything was big, Big jeans, big pants. Jenko's. Exactly. And you know, we pulled a lot from that era. And I think that also that era has had.

[C]

It has had a resurgence.

[A]

A resurgence in. In. In. In. In fashion for a younger generation. I think that. I think that that moment is coming to an end. And I think we're gonna. We're coming back right back into skin. So you guys, everybody here actually has the opportunity to be. To. To sort of set the trend to invest in skinny. Maybe if there is you or like start it before people because you're. You're going to be on it and people be like skinny jeans, but within two years, I'll say they'll be like, oh, you were already there.

[B]

Really? And do you think they'll be the same as when they were. They were in. Where it's like so tight. Where it's like straight.

[C]

A little looser. Or will. Or will it be tighter?

[B]

Exactly. Somehow tied up.

[C]

See the, the. My donkey.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

That I don't know. And I'll have to talk to my person.

[C]

Wait, did you say pubis?

[B]

Yeah, I said pubis, which is pubis.

[A]

And that is of course the.

[B]

I don't even really know, but I just felt like the right word for something to be revealed by the eyesight.

[C]

So the question. So you're asking, will the trend go so tight that you can see pubis?

[B]

Yeah, and we.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And our pubis is. And like.

[C]

And I know.

[A]

And I do know what it is.

[B]

Okay, what is it?

[A]

Well, of course it's the round part. And frankly, mine's been a little bubbly lately.

[C]

Your pubis has been bubbly.

[A]

Which brings me to my favorite.

[B]

Here we go.

[A]

Hottest celeb in jeans.

[C]

Hottest what? Hottest what?

[A]

Celeb and jeans.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Well, I mean, you said it. You said it right from the. Get James Dean.

[B]

James Dean, I guess.

[C]

Which is fun because his name is James Dean. And if you put the J on.

[B]

Dean, take out the aims and D. Yeah, yeah. You get jeans.

[A]

I have thought about that.

[B]

You have?

[C]

Now everybody's going to think about it.

[B]

I think that it was a. On purpose, actually.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it was his name. His parents named him that on purpose. Like he's gonna be a gene daddy.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

I got one. I don't know. My. My wife got. Might get mad at me.

[C]

Oh my God. Okay, sweet. That just made me think of something.

[A]

And also, I don't want. I. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is a pair of jeans.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cindy Crawford Pepsi.

[C]

Yes. Yes. That's exactly what I was thinking. Yes. Dude.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That's a very iconic pair. And those are going to be Levi's as well, aren't they?

[C]

They have to be.

[B]

They're no Levi's. No way they were attainable.

[C]

No way they were doing it could.

[B]

Be Like, I got. I had trumpet leg Lee in high school.

[C]

That was the style.

[A]

Trumpet leg. I don't know if I. Somebody who hosts a podcast.

[C]

It was like, that's why we're here.

[A]

Oh. Like, almost like a bell bottom, but.

[B]

Like a. Yeah, but like a narrower. More like a trumpet.

[C]

Yeah. Like really flaring right at the bottom.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like an exponential curve.

[B]

Quite narrow. But that's.

[A]

And that was that pop. Because bells were cool when I was in Bells. I guess if I'm hosting a jeans podcast. Well, bells had a moment. I feel like in the mid to late 90s out here.

[B]

Yeah. You'd snip up the pants and you'd add a triangle of colorful fur. Yeah. Pubis.

[C]

Like Britney Spears had some nice pubis.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Well, that was also low. Low rise.

[B]

Low rise. You know, Remember also when they'd cut off the waistband so it would get solo.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That was.

[C]

That's what I should be doing.

[B]

I know. That's what we should both be doing.

[C]

Damn. Let's do that now. Okay, now, we've talked about one half of the jean equation. The legs. What about the top half? Jean jackets, jean shirts, jean ties, and.

[A]

He went there, folks. He went there, folks.

[C]

Are you ever popping on a jean jacket?

[B]

I have in my life. Yeah, but never recently.

[A]

I feel like you've rock rocked.

[C]

Oh, yeah, brother. I had a period. I was just thinking about it the other day.

[B]

All black.

[C]

It was acid washed.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Sort of big. Kind of puffy.

[B]

Puffy.

[C]

And it was a purple lining on the inside. And there was some sort of circular. Big. Like it was printed in. It wasn't, like, printed on. It was, like, indented into. Was maybe the brand. And it was during a phase where I was telling people that I was peacocking.

[A]

Wait, no, wait. Was that.

[C]

I was a single man. I was like, I'm peacocking.

[B]

You're dressing for attention.

[C]

I remember. I remember trying to get comfortable talking to girls.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is a jacket that we would have shared at the home we live. Because I remember wearing an oversized denim jacket when we were making sketch comedy.

[C]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Maybe Dave and I both would have worn. But I wonder if it's the same jacket or.

[B]

This used to hit hood of the traveling jacket.

[C]

Yeah, that's what it was.

[A]

Sort of your classic jean jacket, which is what I'm imagining. Thinner than what you're referring to.

[B]

Oh, I'm not lined.

[C]

Oh. Oh, I had one of those.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Those ones. I don't know. Think I could ever. I. I don't think I could pull it off.

[B]

I think you could.

[A]

I feel the same way about those that I don't think I could. Like, I, I get nervous around about wearing a leather jacket.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, me too. I've tried to find a nice.

[B]

Can't wear a leather jacket. It's really hard.

[C]

Really.

[B]

Not you specifically, but it's really hard.

[C]

It's really hard. You go with the rugged, vintage smooth new one where you can smell that.

[B]

It'S a big statement. It's a big. Like, who do you.

[A]

Wow. What, what are the characteristics for somebody who can pull off a leather jacket?

[B]

Like. Well, someone who like is so confident.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And tattoos.

[B]

Yeah. And kind of like a rocker.

[C]

Yeah. Piercings.

[A]

Now, did your father. What I wonder. Let's hear about your father's wardrobe, if we may.

[B]

Okay. He has one outfit. He wears every. He wears the same outfit every single day.

[C]

I love that.

[B]

It is black jeans, white T shirt, white button up shirt over that black sweater. Although I would say jumper.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like crew neck.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Suit jacket, proper black boots, several layers. Well, this is like the full winter extent.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then you just peel them off.

[B]

Peel them off. But have gone to the beach with him and he's in black jeans, boots, white T shirt, jacket.

[C]

What kind of boots are we talking about?

[B]

Blundstone or RM Williams?

[C]

Yeah, both classic.

[B]

Yeah. Australian.

[C]

And I've been trying to. I want to get a pair of those. R.M.

[B]

Williams. You should. I got him those for his 70th birthday.

[C]

This is putting me over the edge.

[B]

You should do it. They're really nice.

[C]

Great. Now, now I. Do, I. Do you think Gene culture is different in Australia than it is here in the US when you landed here, well.

[A]

You said, you said something about it being iconically American.

[B]

It is. It's part of it. It's so American. Blue jeans. America. That's America.

[C]

It really is. Bruce Springsteen, little bandana sticking out of his pocket.

[A]

Yep. That is a classic.

[B]

Cowboys.

[C]

Yes, cowboys. Now what? So what if, if jeans is classic to the US Is there something that's similar, A similar pant that replaces jeans in Australia?

[B]

Well, it would be like thongs, but you might call them flip flops.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's like an iconic Australian shoe.

[C]

And maybe board shorts, something I wore a lot of in high school.

[A]

Is that an Australian company?

[B]

I don't know if it is. It might. It probably is because that's an Australian thing. Yeah, it's kind of like a lagoon or it's a water thing. But also my dad designed for Mambo, which was a different surf label.

[A]

Mambo. I don't know if I know that one. Does he serve?

[B]

He surfed a little bit. My uncle served more. No, I swim at the ocean. In the ocean all the time, but I'm too scared to go on a surfboard.

[C]

Yeah. I'm still thinking about how you said instead of jeans, people wear thongs.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I just imagined everybody in Australia walking around in thongs.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That is. I. That would boost tourism through the roof.

[B]

Oh, because you're thinking of G string.

[A]

You're thinking of.

[C]

Yeah, that's right.

[A]

What is it? What's the iconic. The thong you're actually referring to, which we refer to as sandal. What is. What. What are the top three?

[B]

Well, you're saying. Asking for a brand. Yeah, there's no brand. It's, like, from the supermarket. So it's like. It looks like it's like it's got a blue foam sole and then like a white kind of textured on the top. Yeah. And then blue and the.

[A]

Rubbery.

[B]

Yeah, rubbery. Yeah. That pot.

[A]

I mean, we got. We.

[C]

Yeah, we got.

[A]

We all. I think everybody here knows that thing, relatively. Those are.

[B]

Yeah. The classic.

[C]

They're classic.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's iconically Australian because it began.

[B]

Well, I think. I mean, I don't know that it began there, but that's like. To me, that's like the most Australian shoe. And Ugg boots.

[A]

Ugg boots.

[C]

I think Blundstones. But we're talking about shoes.

[B]

We're getting on the topic. I don't want to talk about it.

[C]

I'm just so. As far as jeans go.

[A]

Oh, okay. I got a question.

[C]

You don't wear the shirt, the. The top. You're like, you know, you're not really wearing a lot of jeans.

[B]

But I always want to, though.

[C]

But you always want to. Have you ever thought about, like, having jean sheets?

[A]

What about jean shorts? Do you wear jean shorts?

[B]

I wear jean shorts just fine.

[C]

Or a jean.

[B]

And I do.

[C]

Oh, you do wear jean shorts.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. But never any jean furniture or jean sheets.

[B]

Well, not yet.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

But it would be a way to get it. Once my friend bought a rug, and she was like, this is kind of cool rug. And then she realized it looked like it was made out of jeans. Associated to get rid of it.

[C]

Yeah, it kind of creeps me out.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know about the Canadian tuxedo?

[B]

That's when you put both denims on at once.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Top. Yeah, I think that's cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'd Wear that.

[C]

Really?

[B]

If I could.

[C]

Okay, well, maybe we'll send you something.

[B]

Oh, I'd love it.

[C]

Yeah. From one of our sponsors.

[B]

I know, because you must get so many free pairs of jeans.

[C]

We get a lot of jeans in here, and we're always, like, kind of sorting through stuff and giving stuff away. So maybe we'll talk to somebody about a special little do. Jump it. Jean Tex.

[A]

People tailor. Do people tailor jeans?

[B]

Oh, yeah, they do. Some people do. I've never. I think that could be the key for me to getting into some jeans that I think are cool.

[A]

But I. I don't. I. I don't want to speak for Head Gum and. And the producers and Beck here in this moment, but thank you.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Good.

[A]

I'm going. But I'm going to. I'm going to take the rest.

[C]

But as we all know, this is not my opinion.

[A]

We would like to sponsor a tailored pair of jeans for you.

[B]

Oh, my God. That could be, like, $400.

[C]

I. I hope even more. I think it'd be cool if it was really expensive.

[A]

If we. If we make. If we make this happen, would you feel comfortable with sharing a photo of. Of yourself?

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

Okay. This is going down.

[B]

This is happening. This is happening, and it'd be amazing.

[C]

Now, do you want to tell us, like, any. Any. Any style. Would you want trumpet? Probably not.

[B]

I think I still want trumpet anymore. I think they look classic.

[A]

Do you want us to do the research to find the gene?

[B]

Yeah, I think I do. Yeah. I think that would be really.

[C]

We're gonna put this together for you, and you're gonna.

[B]

For sure. I want you to get this.

[C]

Trust me, when you get these jeans.

[A]

We'Ll have somebody reach out. We are going to be probably some.

[B]

Questions, some numbers, measurements.

[A]

We might have to have somebody come over to your house.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And in a couple years, we're gonna have these jeans.

[B]

I can't wait.

[A]

I'm really excited. This is a first for our podcast.

[B]

It's incredible.

[C]

Yeah. And it's gonna. People are gonna love Now.

[A]

We could be changing now. I'm like, okay, the podcast could be bigger than what we thought it was. We could be changing lives.

[B]

You could give me something I've always wanted.

[C]

It could be like. It could be like. What's it called? Miracle.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Captain Ron. No, it could be like. What's the hgtv Just like. Like, Miracle Gene makeover.

[B]

Exactly, exactly.

[C]

And we're like the Property Brothers, but we're the Gene Brothers.

[B]

Shouldn't there be, like, a special episode about You. Because you don't have jeans either.

[C]

Yeah, that'll be, like, this guy.

[A]

I've seen this guy in so many jeans.

[C]

I do have jeans, but, like, there's.

[B]

Not a lot of blue jeans, and that's the harder one.

[C]

I'm still searching for my blue jeans, dad.

[B]

That's the saddest thing.

[C]

I have, like, three pairs in my.

[B]

Closet that just don't work because I.

[A]

Think we're gonna have to close out on that one because. Because, let's be real. Aren't a lot of us searching for some blue jeans? Thank you to Claudia. Claudia, is there anything you'd like to promote on your way out?

[B]

Not really.

[C]

Okay, great.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Not right now.

[A]

Come on. I heard.

[B]

I don't want it to be about that. I don't want to be about promoting stuff. I just want to talk about James.

[C]

And this is about you. You and Claudia and jeans and us.

[A]

Is there anything we didn't. Is there any gene related item that we did not. Or any. Any point of conversation? We did not hit that.

[C]

Are you gonna. Yeah. Are you gonna have any gene regrets when you walk out of here?

[B]

Not really. I'm sort of more curious about, like, the jeans you wore as teens, but we did talk about that a little bit.

[C]

No, as teens.

[B]

I just wanted, like, what about, like, when did you.

[A]

Cargo shorts and quarter rations.

[B]

I like that.

[C]

That's a new kind of a thing to do.

[B]

Keep doing that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And do it every episode.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. Perfect.

[B]

And, you know, just like. So when do you remember ever getting a pair of jeans and being like, I look amazing in these?

[A]

I re. I will say I remember when I made the transition to skinny jeans, and it was probably 2007. They were Levi 5 11s. Black.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Kind of. I think sort of I had the same. The indie sleaze moment as it is now has been retroactive.

[B]

Stole you in. Where you in it.

[A]

You know what? I went to the Macy's downtown.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And here's what happened. I opened up. They. They talked me into, like, you know, do you want to put it on the. Like to open a Macy's credit card?

[C]

It's a great opportunity.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they're like 35 bucks off or something like that.

[C]

I was like, that's huge.

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

Never paid off these jeans. No. And a full decade later, I tried to buy a car and I had like, a red, red mark. Oh, my credit score because of this one time.

[B]

But kind of worth it for the jeans, right?

[A]

And for my podcast.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

For the perfect story to end it. Except now, Brickell Story.

[C]

Yeah. I had the same kind of jeans, and I really liked him a lot. I felt really good in them.

[B]

Really.

[C]

Five' eleven black.

[B]

I do remember my first pair of skinny jeans. And I was like, turns out there's time. Some jeans I look absolutely amazing in.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then that time, it was Edinburgh, 2006.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Listen to Block Party.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. Well, it's been a good. Jean. Jean Time having with you, as we like to say.

[B]

So.

[C]

Jean. And then. And.

[B]

It'S been genuinely nice to be here.

[A]

There we go.

[C]

Yes. And I. And I.

[A]

And the nice thing is, I didn't have to make three wishes from a genie, because my wishes already came true when I got to sit down with you and talk about jeans.

[B]

That's two wishes. What is the next?

[C]

And when I'm home, driving my Jean home, I will think about all the amazing things that we say and.

[A]

Can I say something?

[B]

I'm so driving your jean home.

[C]

I don't get it. I don't know what we're doing.

[A]

Well, it's clear who the genius is over here.

[B]

Come on, Kyle. Whatever. It's right.

[A]

You really are. And it's been really.

[C]

You are a genius, and we genuinely appreciate you. A genius.

[B]

I genuinely loved coming here. Thanks so much.

[C]

Thank you, Claudia.

[A]

Thanks, Claudia.

[B]

Thanks, guys.

[A]

I want to shout out our producers, Anya and Casey, who have been sort of incredibly wonderful and malleable and on the go and ready at the drop of a dime to.

[C]

To.

[A]

To help make this all happen. So thanks to you guys.

[C]

Yeah, thank you.

[B]

You've been so on the go.

[C]

You guys are. You guys are like assassins.

[A]

How do you. What do you. How do you think?

[C]

How. How.

[A]

You guys are like. The assassins.

[C]

Yeah, the assassins. You think you guys are, like, killing people for money, but people say that, like, when you do your job really well, you're like an assassin.

[B]

You're an assassin. You're a sniper.

[C]

Hey.

[A]

I don't know the guy.

[C]

Yeah, that's classic.

[A]

How do you feel? What do you. How do you think we did?

[B]

I liked it. It was really nice because also, it was fun because I had no idea what it was gonna be.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Were you nervous?

[C]

Yeah. We didn't.

[B]

Not at all.

[A]

That's great. When I'm a guest, I feel like I've always come in with some nerves.

[C]

When you're a guest?

[B]

No, I mean, maybe I should have, and that would have made me deliver.

[C]

No, no, you were absolutely perfect. I mean, they make sense that we Would have the nerves because it's our show and we want.

[A]

Certainly in this situation. I'm nervous because, like, 1. I want to be conscious of your time. You're a friend and a professional.

[B]

Extremely busy.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And you have to be. We. I had to. Speaking for myself, I had to be conscious of, like, what is the sort of balancing act of, like, okay, this is.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Our friend. How much personal can we bring into it? How much, you know, like, professional or, like, kind of how much context do we need to provide for the audience, etc. Of course, it's like, if we were going off about people, we know that.

[B]

That would be an incredible show. You can't do that.

[C]

But also, like, we could just, like, just go into, like. Like, even if we weren't going into any gossip, we were just, like, around and, like, not bringing any sort of, like, hosting quality to it, you know, that's what I get nervous about. Like, oh, can we just. Like, I want to talk to you. Like, I would normally talk to you, but then that wouldn't be a show, probably.

[B]

Well, would it?

[C]

Or maybe it would be.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

We're finding out. So maybe we'll have you on again and try to do that.

[B]

I'd love to do that. What? We sort of did do it, but it's interesting. It's hot. It's. I myself have never had a podcast.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I would also be like, what do you do for a podcast? And how much are you just being yourself or trying to be funny?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Sometimes, obviously, you're naturally funny or, like, doing a premise or doing like. And that's why Mitch has done so well to have doughboys.

[A]

Do you like Mitch?

[C]

No. I don't know. I don't. I've never been able to.

[A]

I haven't tracked him.

[B]

No. He's just so unfriendly.

[C]

Yeah. He's a bad, spiky.

[B]

Spiky kind of guy.

[C]

He's punched me a lot.

[B]

Yeah. Very violent.

[C]

Like, from behind. Like a lot from behind. Yeah.

[B]

Turn around.

[C]

And he goes, no, I didn't do it. I guess I've been in this.

[B]

But that makes sense.

[A]

Been in this situation before. Sorry. We love you, Mike Mitchell. And we were just messing around.

[C]

Stop punching me.

[A]

I did really enjoy getting to learn more about you, so I could say that one thing I'm very excited about that we. That's due to us recording this podcast today is I got to learn more about Claudia. Which also means that when I'm around you outside of the podcast, in real life, I could probably make an effort to ask you more questions and. And learn more about your background and what you're all about.

[B]

That's nice.

[C]

I'm going to say the same for myself. I saw a different side of you that I've never seen before. It was great.

[B]

Well, this is what happens when you Google your friends.

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Yeah.

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I mean, honestly, I said, yeah, A little Googling, but then. But then hearing more from you. Hearing a lot.

[B]

I provided.

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And about your dad's clothes. Now I got a visual.

[B]

I know. Well, he even wears that outfit to bed during the winter time because he doesn't want to be cold. So there is, like, sort of like a gray stain on the bed where the black jeans go, because you know how they're so sort of inky. Inky.

[C]

Yeah, they are inky.

[B]

So they provide a big.

[A]

And so he's just constantly. Is he just refilling these clothes over and over again? Like, oh, these ones are.

[B]

The drawers are just, like, white shirts, black jeans, jumpers.

[A]

How often does our sweaters come out, Come over here?

[B]

Almost never. But I go over there constantly.

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Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

We are going to follow through on your jeans.

[B]

This is. I mean, this is incredible.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If that's really gonna happen, maybe we.

[C]

Can have you back.

[A]

Maybe we can have you back on. Maybe it's not. Maybe we can make a whole thing of it.

[B]

It.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Make a whole thing.

[C]

Make a whole thing about it. We could have, like, a whole festival.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Maybe we can show John's movie because.

[B]

Yeah, that would be. That's a good way to get it out there.

[C]

And we could premiere your jeans.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Perfect. That's a good idea. It was so nice having you.

[A]

So fun. You got any. Any other. You got any other pitches for us or in terms of like, oh, maybe you should try this on the next one?

[B]

Not really. I think it's like, well, this is a great place to start with your podcast. I think it's. I think it's a really fun idea. I like it.

[A]

Thanks, Claudia.

[B]

And it was nice.

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It was really nice. And that's it. Nice Kisses.

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It's kissing.

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Kissing. It's giving. Kissing.

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It's giving. Kissing.

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