Jessy Hodges

Summary

What's Our Podcast? with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney

Episode: Jessy Hodges (May 27, 2026)

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Episode Overview

This heartfelt and hilarious episode welcomes actress Jessy Hodges (also known for her work on Barry, Pen15, and more)—who happens to be Beck Bennett’s wife—for a candid, winding conversation about acting, relationships, the complexity of creative lives, and the meaning of “home.” Throughout, the group revisits old memories, domestic life, and the core question: what should this podcast actually be about? Hodges offers her pitch—"Houses"—sparking a nostalgia-filled, confessional journey through residences past and present. Longtime real-life friendships and deep mutual admiration are on full display, with jokes, asides, and inside references abounding.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcast Purpose and Patreon Details

[00:21–03:18]

• Beck and Kyle introduce the episode and excitedly announce their Patreon tiers—including:
  • Weekly bonus episodes (“slopping out” – just Beck and Kyle riffing)
  • Listener-submitted show ideas for them to try
  • Fan chat on Discord, exclusive “silly” video bits, and quarterly live streams
  • Annual subscribers at the highest tier get an exclusive Beck & Kyle side headshot
• “We're still figuring out what our podcast is every single week when we come together with our guests.” (Beck, 00:35)

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2. Warm-up Banter: Mandela Effect & Friend Support

[03:29–13:23]

• The guys riff on the Mandela Effect (Berenstain vs. Berenstein Bears), mispronouncing “orangutan,” and misheard common phrases.
• Beck questions the performative language of “supporting my friends” and why people say that as a semi-humblebrag:
  • “It feels good to support my friends is even worse.” (Kyle, 12:01)
• Imagines a podcast segment where listeners pitch people for Beck & Kyle to "hunt" (not literally—just find/photosnap as a bit).

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3. Event Etiquette & Small-Life Observations

[13:23–17:03]

• Kyle shares the common anxiety of missing the transition in passed appetizers from savory to sweet at parties.
  • Notable Event: Getting “shut down” by a server when trying to return a spring roll crate (16:16)
• “I think it’s a situation where both you and the guy were right.” (Beck, 17:00)

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4. Welcoming Jessy (and Navigating “On-Air” Marriage)

[17:04–19:04]

• Beck admits some nerves about filming a conversational appearance with his spouse and wanting to “do right by my wife.”
  • “It is hard to talk…there’s a part of me that wants to show how much I love her…” (Beck, 17:52)

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5. Getting to Know Jessy: Name, Upbringing & Career

[29:33–42:41]

• The “Jessica/Jess/Jesse” mix-up and how quickly people assume nickname familiarity.
• Jessy reflects on her creative upbringing in Michigan with a mother who was an actor “in the spiritual sense,” and an upbringing steeped in the arts (acting, music, performance).
  • “Everything that involved play…had to do with performing, had to do with watching things, had to do with…making each other laugh.” (Jessy, 33:33)
• Influence of Camp Interlochen and the pressure/dynamism of a family of artists.

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6. Early Career, Acting School, and the Power of “Letting Go”

[42:02–46:43]

• Jessy’s time in NYU's Experimental Theatre Wing:
  • “We’re in classes, essentially pretending we’re like amoebas…Rolling on the floor, making guttural sounds, not language sounds.” (Jessy, 42:51)
• “Good actors do good sounds…because they’re able to let go.” (Jessy, 43:16)
• She gamely demonstrates her guttural acting exercises when prompted.

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7. The Beck & Jessy Love Story—How They Met

[50:00–62:43]
Notable Section for Fans of All Three

• The story of their first meeting, a Britanick video shoot, accidental first impressions, and comedy world crossovers with Kyle living with Beck at the time.
• Early chemistry (or lack thereof, at first), group hangs, and the slow transition from working together to starting to date.
  • “Were either of you like, there’s something there, or did none of that even exist in that…?” (Kyle, 51:39)
  • “Nothing.” (Jessy, 51:41)
• Adorable details—misspeaking “brain scientist” (vs. rocket scientist) becomes a pivotal inside joke and their first post-party message leads to a dinner.
  • “Just so you know, brain science is a thing, as evidenced here by the New York Times.” (Jessy, 62:29)

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8. Marriage Dynamics, Creative Support, and Night Routines

[63:05–66:43]

• The realities (and evolution) of self-taping auditions together as spouses; learning to take direction from each other without ego.
• Nighttime routines post-child: “Every couple doesn’t hang out at night. Like, most people go off and do their own thing. We're starting to do more, but Beck and I have been hanging out every night for 25 years…” (Jessy, 65:16)

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9. Jessy’s New Show & Typecasting

[66:12–75:15]

• Jessy introduces her new Apple TV+ show, Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed—a dark comedic thriller directed by David Gordon-Green.
  • “It’s really good and exciting and the performances are great…and the direction is, like, very inspired. It’s one of the first times that I’ve read the script and been like, whoa, that’s a good script. And then I’ve seen it and been like, oh, it’s even better.” (Jessy, 67:43)
• Beck’s take: “You freaking earn it. You show up, you do your job, and you make everybody fall in love with you.” (Beck, 63:45)
• Discussion of being “typecast” in roles—Jessy’s as “woman in control/powerful” types, and the challenge (and desire) to play roles that allow her to become “messy and flawed” on screen.

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10. Creative Careers vs. Real Life (How Much of Their Lives Are About ‘The Work’)

[76:42–81:21]

• Beck, Jessy, and Kyle discuss the relentless mental occupation acting/career takes up (“embarrassingly high”—Jessy says 80-85%) and the challenge of turning it off, especially in uncertain freelance stretches.
  • “It’s feast or famine. When nothing’s going on, you self-generate, and then those projects get going—and then you book another job, and then you’re way too busy.” (Jessy, 81:01)

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11. Jessy’s Podcast Pitch: “Houses”

[82:12–88:43]

• Jessy proposes their podcast should be about “Houses”—the homes they’ve lived in (separately and together), childhood homes, sharing lives over the years, and the nostalgia and meaning attached to all those places.
  • “Because McCollum was so classic…you had so many house parties. There’s a home. There's a home to your friendship.” (Jessy, 102:45)
• All three get effusive and sentimental about favorite homes, childhood residences (and basements!), formative house parties, old roommates, parties, and even rat infestations.

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12. Stories from Childhood Homes & Adolescent Mishaps

[103:33–110:38]

• Homes of childhood, “basement people” vs. LA residents, and the ways houses reflect families and memories.
• Kyle tells a (hilariously awkward) story of being caught by his mom "enjoying late night Cinemax" as a teen—both mortifying and classic adolescent memory.

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13. House Parties & Friendship

[112:23–113:54]

• All three agree: nothing beats a great house party. The podcast naturally circles back to the idea that places carry the imprints of the people and stories inside them.
  • “We’ve shared so many house memories…that could have been the whole [podcast].” (Kyle, 113:10)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I have a feeling for our listeners…maybe I should have some things to talk about instead of just fucking around and not really contributing at all.” —Beck, [08:33]
• “It’s not a toast or a speech that I’m giving. It’s what’s our podcast? She’s coming in to help us figure it out, but she’s fucking awesome. She’s my wife. You love her. Everybody loves her.” —Beck, [18:44]
• (On performing arts upbringing) “Everything that involved play…had to do with performing, had to do with watching things, had to do with imitating, making each other laugh.” —Jessy, [33:33]
• (On audition tape struggles) “It’s hard to take direction from each other.” —Jessy, [40:14]
• (On being typecast) “It’s the best-worst thing. I’m definitely pretty good at it…but then also I feel constrained by it, and I’m like, ‘I want to do something else.’” —Jessy, [73:17]
• “It's unhealthy how consuming it is, but it is a survival thing…If you have work, you have time in between to live, but when you don’t…if I'm not setting stuff up, I'm going to be in a bad situation…” —Beck, [80:39]
• (On favorite house-party snacks) “For me, it was all snacks. That mom is down to get Kraft singles and stuff, we're all going over there.” —Beck, [111:26]
• (On catching Kyle “in the act” as a teenager) “To wake up to your son doing that…what an amazing sight” —Jessy & Beck, [110:32]
• “Home is where the heart is. And home is a house sometimes, or an apartment…” —Beck, [110:38]
• “We’ve shared so many house memories…that could have been the whole [podcast].” —Kyle, [113:10]
• “I can’t believe you remembered. Rocco at heart.” —Beck, [113:45]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:21–03:18 – Patreon and Podcast Purpose/Theme
• 03:29–13:23 – Mandela Effect, “Support My Friends,” and Bit Brainstorming
• 17:04–19:04 – Beck’s “Do Right By My Wife” Moment
• 29:33–42:41 – Jessy’s Name, Upbringing, and Artistic Family
• 42:02–46:43 – Experimental Theater, Acting Exercises
• 50:00–62:43 – The Beck & Jessy Meeting Story (“Brain Science” origin, early romance)
• 63:05–66:43 – Marriage, Self-Taping, and Nighttime Couple Routines
• 66:12–75:15 – New Show, Typecasting & Career Discussion
• 76:42–81:21 – How Consuming Is Creative Work?
• 82:12–88:43 – Jessy’s Podcast Idea: Houses/Homes
• 103:33–110:38 – Childhood Homes, Bizarre Family Memories, and Basements
• 112:23–113:54 – House Parties, Friendship, and Wrap-Up

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Final Thoughts

This episode embodies the best of What’s Our Podcast?: real camaraderie, tangents that bloom into profound nostalgia or sharp observational humor, and a special guest who blends seamlessly into the mix. Jessy Hodges’ presence brings warmth and authenticity, not just as Beck’s wife or a fantastic performer, but as an enthusiastic storyteller and a friend with plenty of shared history to draw on.
Listening is a treat for comedy, acting, and podcast fans alike—especially if you love behind-the-scenes peeks at creative partnerships (and have lived in too many LA apartments).

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For Beck, Kyle, Jessy, and dedicated Roccos everywhere: check out “Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed” on Apple TV+, and maybe consider starting (or just reminiscing about) your own house-party era.

Transcript

[A]

This is a Headgun podcast. Wow.

[B]

Yay. Another episode of what's our Podcast. But first, a little special announcement from Becky and Kyle.

[A]

This is very big. This is.

[B]

It's very huge and big.

[A]

I think this is life changing for me.

[B]

Yeah. That's the way I feel. As long as it goes well.

[A]

Well, even if it doesn't, it is altering my life.

[B]

Yeah, it already has.

[A]

The big announcement is we are starting a patreon.

[B]

Yes. You're saying to yourself, oh, yes, it was.

[A]

You know, it was a risk. It was a swing to even start a podcast together back.

[B]

Yes, it was.

[A]

We didn't know what it is. We still are finding out what it is every single week when we come together with our guests. And when you and I sort of mess around on the microphone, let's tell

[B]

them what it is. For the first tier, Rocco, Basic tier.

[A]

It's five bucks a month. You're gonna get a bonus episode every week. No guest. Okay. It's just Beck and I doing what we've been doing Since September of 2003 when we first met each other.

[B]

For that tier, we have slopping out, which is just the two of us hanging out.

[A]

It's like our intro to our show.

[B]

Yeah. But it's longer. We can go into bits longer.

[A]

We can also be earnest. Learn about each other's lives.

[B]

Yes. Catch up for longer. Or we also have what's yous Podcast, where we take ideas from our Patreon members.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

At a certain tier, at the $10 tier, which is the next tier. We take your ideas and we try that podcast out. Right, but you can pitch those ideas at the $10 tier.

[A]

Yes. Once you get to the $10 tier, premium rock, which we're calling Rocco Premium.

[B]

Rocco Premium.

[A]

That's where you actually get to pitch the ideas that we will do on our podcast. You're also gonna get access to an exclusive chat. A chat room.

[B]

Yes.

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The Discord. The Rocco Discord, where you can talk with other fans, other listeners. Probably kind of do your own little bits. Make some friends. Maybe. Maybe you can grab. Grab dinner or coffee with one of them sometime.

[B]

Also with the $10 tier, you get access to. You get to see our. What we're calling our sillies.

[A]

Yes. These are little videos. You know, we came up making videos together. Full circle. Because now you and I are just gonna make a little video we already started. Get a little iPhone, make a little video, play some characters, do some bits.

[B]

Just come up with an idea and pop it right off and just shoot it.

[A]

Yeah. We don't need to labor over it.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. We just kind of have fun and pump it out to our Rocco's. You know what I mean?

[A]

I know exactly what you mean. I love it.

[B]

Yes.

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For 15 bucks, you get all that stuff, plus you get free access to our new ticketed live stream. So, like, we will talk to you directly. You can ask us questions. We'll be doing these quarterly throughout the year.

[B]

We might do poppers there. We don't know yet. It's only going to be legal stuff, but we're going to have fun to do poppers. Yes. And here's the thing for Rocket supreme, if you sign up for a full year, you'll get a side headshot of me and Kyle. We don't know, but it's going to be an amazing family heirloom that you get and you can, you know, frame it and put above the fireplace or something or something like that.

[A]

It is really going to be fun. I think it's going to be a place to see some really weird, wild and crazy stuff where we just get

[B]

to do whatever we want without really caring. So. Yeah. So go to patreon.com what's our podcast? And join today, please.

[A]

That's patreon.com what's our Podcast? And be in the Rocco Club with all your fellow Roccos.

[B]

What's our Podcast? What's it gonna be all about? Tell us what's our Podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle?

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to what's Our Podcast With Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney, the show where we bring in guests to tell us what our podcast should be about. Because we have no idea. And we have been losing our minds because every episode has been. Has been. We've been meeting all these incredible people, and it's always so interesting getting to know them. What is up with you, B?

[B]

Oh, dude, just. I'm. I was just loving the intro that you were doing. Yeah, it's. What's Our Podcast? I'm here with my boy Kyle. We're here to have fun and mess around and try to figure out what life is all about.

[A]

Yes. And. Yeah, and he's checking out his phone right now, and I'm wondering, oh, no, he's probably checking out. Is he. Is he checking out the stocks? Is he. Is he reading an article? Is he. Oh, he's texting somebody.

[B]

I know. I am checking out my stocks. Real quick. I am here. I'm trying to pull up a picture because I have an experiment. This could. This could go Viral. Wow.

[A]

Bill Nye over here. He's got an experiment.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Remember the old science show with Bill Nye? Yeah.

[B]

What was it?

[A]

I was always. Because there was another show, Beakman's World. Do you remember that?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It was around the same time. There was both Bill Nye the Science Guy and Beekman's World. This was like, the same time. They had two science shows.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I couldn't believe it when I saw it. Oh, it's like when Armageddon.

[B]

Have you adjusted to it yet? Have you, like, have you finally built. Have you adjusted? Are you, like, oh, this makes sense now.

[A]

Well, I thought it was, like, you know, a Mandela effect.

[B]

Okay. Oh, what? Oh, speaking of. I don't know exactly what a Mandela effect is. I've heard of it before.

[A]

Here he goes with one of his famous. Psych.

[B]

Let me ask you, what is this animal?

[A]

So for the listeners, Beck is showing a photo of an animal, and it alters. And I'm going to describe what I. What I'm going to describe it. I. I could tell it's a primate.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And it's got a big. Its most noticeable feature is on the sides of its face. There's almost like a round disc. Like.

[B]

And for the listener, this isn't supposed to be challenging. I hope he knows.

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I'm gonna take a guess.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Do you know what it is, Rochelle? I would get. I don't know all of these that well, so I'm gonna say, like, an orangutan.

[B]

What was it? Say it again.

[A]

An orangutan.

[B]

Okay. It is an orangutan. I have always said orangutan.

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There's. There's no G at the end.

[B]

There's no G at the end. This blew my mind yesterday.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So. And I looked it up, and a lot of people think. A lot of people say orangutan, but

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there's no G. Well, isn't that so fascinating that I was just talking about the Mandela effect.

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Yes.

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And do you know about the Berenstain.

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Yes.

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Berenstain bears.

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I don't know about the. I know about the Berenstain or slash Berenstein. But wait, did you say Berenstain?

[A]

The way it's spelled is Berenstain. Oh, but people are. Like, when I was a kid, I remember seeing it spelled and it read as Berenstein.

[B]

I thought it was. I thought it was Berenstein Bears. No, the Berenstein. Berenstein. Berenstain bears. The Berenstain bears.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Well, you know why. Do you know why people say orangutan?

[A]

Yes, I do.

[B]

Okay. Well, it's been.

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We got a great guess.

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There's. I don't even know what it's called, but Orang. A tang is easier to say than orangutan. Yeah.

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I'm like a drop of a dime.

[B]

And Berenstein. Berenstein is easier to say than Baron. Stain. Stain. Baron. Anyway, it's the mind plays tricks.

[A]

So. So, Becky, it was. I remember.

[B]

And, like.

[A]

And this is sort of a flat. I'm taking. I'm gonna give you guys sort of a flashback to a moment earlier in the day when Beck and I first start. Like, sat down here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he's like, I got something I want to talk about. And I'm. I'm going through my head. I'm like, what could this be? Is this, like, oh, did you know, did he hurt somebody? Is. Does he need help?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is. Is it a situation where he's been lied to by an old.

[B]

Your brain went to, like, something severe, dramatic.

[A]

Yeah, but it was that you wanted to show me the photo of the

[B]

animal of the orangutan? Yeah. Yeah. Blew my mind. I have some other things I want to talk about.

[A]

Okay. He's got more things, folks.

[B]

I was. I was wondering if you would want to. I mean, Kyle's eating is Kylo's.

[A]

That's not how I would eat Kylo's. I was eating popcorn.

[B]

I don't know how you eat Kylos. Kylo's. For everybody listening, if you don't know Kylo's are Kyle's cereal, you can go online and check it out. There's an Instagram clip where Kyle's talking about his Kylo's. It's kind of an inside thing for all the Roccos.

[A]

Yes. They're supplied to me by my supplier.

[B]

Yeah, but wait. Oh, yeah. So you're eating your. What? You're eating your popcorn, getting excited for the.

[A]

For the. More things you want to talk about.

[B]

Okay. So the other thing.

[A]

I feel like you never really come in here with any of this.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And I thought. I thought I would. I thought I would.

[A]

And I have a feeling. I have a feeling for our listeners. Like, I think I know why Beck is prepared today. I'm not gonna say why.

[B]

Okay, we'll get to that in two seconds.

[A]

I have an idea of why Beck was like, maybe I should have some things to talk about instead of just fucking around and not really contributing at all. I have an idea.

[B]

Wow. Is that how you see me? Piece of shit, Dude. You're a fucking piece of shit.

[A]

I'm fucking with you. This is our dynamic.

[B]

Are you fucking with me?

[A]

That's why we're going to the Podcast hall of Fame.

[B]

That's why we're going to the Podcast hall of Fame. I actually had four things to talk to you about.

[C]

Bring them.

[B]

I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. You got one. I'm going to bring up the other one, and then we're going to cap it at that and we'll bring it up another time. The other thing I wanted to bring up, I was at.

[A]

How many are we getting in total?

[B]

I'm getting the number. I had four written down.

[A]

Looking over shell, I'm like, relle, is this guy Moving's not following. What's the number of things we're going to get to hear about?

[B]

Do you know?

[A]

Do you know?

[B]

I heard our guest pull up, and I know they're here, but this guy's got super.

[A]

I didn't know you can. You could hear what's happening in the

[B]

parking lot for the.

[A]

For the listener or even for the viewer. Hi, everybody. By the way, the parking lot, that's a few walls away.

[B]

Okay, so here's the thing I wanted to talk about. Have. I was in a. I mean, like,

[A]

there is a full studio that is soundproofed in between us.

[B]

Yes. And the parking lot. Not that wall. Not that wall right there.

[A]

I have been destroyed.

[B]

You've been destroyed.

[A]

The. The truther.

[B]

Of.

[A]

By the. Go ahead.

[B]

The truther. Stop.

[A]

You go. Okay, sorry. I'm fucking with you. I want to hear what you.

[B]

I. I at a place, and this person. I was just overhearing this guy talk, and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna go out to this concert. It's a really fun time. Plus, you know, I just really want. I just. I just really want to support my friends. And he said that, and I. I thought about you, and there was something about, like, you know, plus, I just really want to support my friends. Yeah, there's something about that. And he said without any irony and, like, he was really proud of himself, and it's like, it's a really good thing to do, and I just. I just wanted to bring it up.

[A]

It does. I hear what you're saying. I'm trying to, like, kind of. I feel like it is. It exists within my vernacular, and it's like, it's not. Yeah, it's like in the same vein of, like, I just like making stuff with my friends.

[B]

I just kind of like making stuff with my friends. I mean, it's just kill me.

[A]

I like being creative.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That the way. Throw it away that way. Like, plus, you know, I just, like, it feels good to support my friends. You know, I just want to go out and support my friends. It's like, no, will you like, going out to a concert and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you're veiling it.

[A]

It's also just like, something like. Yeah, he's bragging. He's, like, trying to. Like, he's trying to project this thing of, like, I'm a good guy. I care about people in my life.

[B]

Yeah. And like. Like, I think he was somebody else. I think he was implying to the other person like, that's a reason you should come out and maybe, you know, like, get. Trying to get him to come. But I feel like I was trying to think, like, is there a way that he could have said it that wouldn't have sounded obnoxious or sort of, like, ego driven?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Plus, it's nice to support your friends, but I don't know. But it's.

[A]

What.

[B]

But it is, like, how.

[A]

What was the first sentence?

[B]

The first sentence is it was.

[A]

It was like a concert.

[B]

It was like, yeah, man, it's a really fun night. A bunch of bands come out. Plus, you know, I really. I just like supporting my friends.

[A]

It's a really fun night. It's gonna be a great concert. Plus, I mean, they're my friends. I just kind of figure I have to.

[B]

Yeah. I think, like, if. Could you say, you know, I really like supporting my friend. Like, plus, like, what was it? Feel like I like supporting my.

[A]

Gonna be a great night. Concert's gonna be good. Plus, kill me. I. I like supporting my friends.

[B]

Feels good to support my friends. I think it feels good to support my friends is even worse. Yeah, it'd be a great night.

[A]

The concert's gonna be good and whatever.

[B]

Plus, I. I just want to support my friends.

[A]

Whatever. If. If. Yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever. If Daniel finds out that I didn't go, you know, I'll be hearing about it for the rest of time.

[B]

Yeah. No, but I think, like, I feel like that. That line. I couldn't really say it unless I was, like, throwing in some awareness to it, like. Yeah, plus, you know, like, I support your friends. No, but it is, like, making fun of the. The statement or something. Yeah.

[A]

Well, what. Do you know the guy's name?

[B]

No, no, I overheard it because he

[A]

could be somebody for us to hunt.

[B]

Yeah. And which is something that we talked about. Hunting people on the show.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like finding.

[A]

That'd be a new segment because we've been talking about trying to pitch. There was an idea to do because we are still trying to figure out what our podcast is.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe it's just like getting, like, people pitch a person that we go hunt. Yes.

[A]

Other ideas are always coming in to pitch, like, their podcast ideas. Like, we did trivia with John Daly. It's like, oh, may we do trivia within our show. But it could be like. Like, you're saying a situation where we. Yeah.

[B]

Hunt down people and not like to hurt them, but just, like, throw net on them, capture them, and, like, take a photo and be like, we got you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then throw them back into the wild.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I. I had a. I had something. Speaking of sort of the minutia of human interaction, do you like how I did that?

[B]

Yeah, that was really cool. I think you're getting better at podcasting, dude. I mean, you've always been really good at it.

[A]

I don't know about always good at it, but I feel.

[B]

I don't know either. Yeah, we're getting. Yeah, we're getting better.

[A]

And Rochelle is like. By the way, Rochelle's back there playing, pressing her buttons. I don't. I never know what she's. She's like, zoom in on Kyle's nose hairs. I don't know what you're doing over there.

[B]

I don't know. I hope you're playing with her buttons.

[A]

I don't watch the videos. I don't watch the YouTube videos. I don't know what you do.

[B]

I used to. Used to watch them all. Couldn't. Just couldn't.

[C]

I'm just.

[A]

I'm switching between the three cameras so I don't have to edit it twice.

[B]

Oh, wow. Oh, interesting. So you can.

[A]

So you're sort of like a gearhead, huh?

[C]

Yeah, I work with the gear.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Is it fun to chase the. The moments with the cameras?

[C]

It does feel like a game where

[A]

I'm anticipating who's about to talk. Oh, wow. I go on to the single for. Oh, well, let's see if we can fuck you up right now. Okay, let's. Let's try

[B]

Spaghetti man coming it. Jimin. I like to go outside.

[A]

Speed man coming to go.

[B]

Crap. Speed man coming to go. That was not a conversation.

[A]

Okay, so I was recently at an event, and, you know, I'm always. By the way, our guest is waiting. Yeah, okay. I'll be very.

[B]

People know because they see. But yeah, go ahead. We'll wait to introduce her. Okay, keep going, keep going, keep going. I want you to take time with it.

[A]

I'll be fast. Okay. I was at an event recently and, you know, I'm really.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Come on, come on, come on. Come back down. Kyle got up, you started running out of the room.

[A]

You know, I'm into a past apps.

[B]

Oh, of course. Absolutely.

[A]

Anytime. Anytime I go to event, I gotta. I gotta, like, I'm always anticipating what they're gonna be, etc. Etc.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

this event. One of the past apps, by the way, I got a new. Before I get into that very quickly. I noticed. And I've never been able to sort of articulate this, but there is a distinct thing that happens with the past apps. I'm more of a savory person. And then there's a moment where the savory plates are gone and the cookies start coming out and you're like, oh, shit, I missed it.

[B]

I missed the little, Little, little things.

[A]

Yeah, the moment.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Okay, here's what happened.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I got a. They were passing out a tray of spring rolls, and there was a little wooden crate for the spring rolls.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

So I eat the spring roll. I'm left with this wooden crate. It looks kind of expensive.

[B]

So this is a nice event.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think actually. And I'm like, okay, gotta get rid of this crate. And I see the guy with the spring rollers come by and there's a little room on the tray.

[B]

I'm like, they're not allowed.

[A]

So cool. If I put this on there. He's like, I'd rather you not.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Shut down in such a harsh way.

[B]

I mean, respect to that guy. Like, he's not just like a little butler to be used however you want.

[A]

But these looked like nice little crates.

[B]

I know, but yeah, but then there's garbage on the tray and what you want is to be.

[A]

I don't know that that should be garbage. It looks like this is like, this is like a fine crafted little.

[B]

I mean, I think that is. It's. If it's. That if something. You can't. If it's not a toothpick or a napkin, something you can't roll up and put in your pocket temporarily until you find a garbage can while you're in a con, then that's on the event. Okay. You know, they should have. They should have somebody else coming by with an empty tray to pick up those Cards.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's just. That's. That's a. They bungled it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think. I think both. I think it's a situation where both you and the guy were right.

[A]

Okay, well, we've got a really big day today. A soon to be iconic guest who I know pretty intimately.

[B]

And I know even more intimately because she's my wife. My wife, Ali G. I love G. Yes. Shout out. Yes. My wife, Jesse Hodges is our guest today. Actor, actor, writer, producer, director. Director. She's an incredible person. It is hard to talk. I've never been. I've never been in this situation where

[A]

I've been hosting a podcast before she comes in. Yeah, let's. I want to get a level of, like, how are you? Where are you at? Sense of nerves? Or, like, kind of. No, I want to do right by my wife.

[B]

I want to do right by her. And I told her before, I was like, I want to, like. I don't think we've ever been, like, in this situation where we've been filmed, like, talking for an hour or something, like. And I. There's a part of me that wants to, like, I don't know, show how much I love her and how incredible she is, and.

[A]

Well, that might be something where Rochelle and I will have to leave.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

I'll do that later.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Because I'm imagining if it becomes a very romantic situation, you guys could, you know, make. Well, you guys.

[B]

But I did. It is like, oh, I wanted to fight. I want it. What's that?

[A]

Did you guys get into a fight at all?

[B]

No, no. But I do. I, like, I was preparing kind of, and I was, like, writing all these things down about how amazing she is and how much I love her and all, and I'm like, this is not what this is about.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it's not Like, I'm not. Like, it's not a toast or a speech that I'm giving.

[A]

It's what's our podcast.

[B]

What's our Podcast? Where it's like, she's coming in to help us figure out what our podcast is, but she's fudgeing. Awesome. She's my wife. You love her. Everybody loves her.

[A]

Everybody loves her.

[B]

And.

[A]

And we'll see if she passed the what's our Podcast test.

[B]

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[A]

Ooh, Lisa. Who's that? What is that song I heard?

[B]

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[A]

Wow. Somebody's in love.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What do you. What's. What's on your mind?

[B]

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[A]

Okay. Is that a person?

[B]

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[A]

Ah. Okay.

[B]

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[A]

I know. And now I'm like. I feel like I'm at story time with my daughter. That's some sort of monster.

[B]

It does kind of feel like story

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Okay.

[B]

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[A]

You have a weird way of chilling out my man.

[B]

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[A]

Okay, I'm getting. Here's what I'm feeling. I'm getting a little bit of Christoph Waltz in there, but also could be, like, a Daniel Day Lewis character or something.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

Lisa sleep quiz. Yeah, that's actually a quiz I wanted to. You know some of these pop quizzes in school, I'm like, no, it's. I'm not ready for that, teacher. Yeah, sleep quizzes actually sounds fun. Lisa mattresses are meticulously designed and assembled in the USA for exceptional quality. And they back it all up with free shipping, easy returns, and 120 night sleep trial. 120 nights sleep trial. How would you say that? 120 night 120 night one.

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[A]

That's. That's. That's literally 50 bucks exclusive for our listeners. That's L, E, E, S, A. Are you writing this down?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

L. I'm gonna start all over. That's L, E, E, S, A, Com. You got that?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Promo code Beckand, Kyle. That's B, E, C, K, A, N, D, K, Y, L, E for 30% off, select matches, plus an extra 50 off.

[B]

Okay, perfect.

[A]

Okay, where does that leave us? What does it read on your calculator here? Let me see. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

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[A]

Could you imagine? I'm just, like, imagining there's a guy Grayson listening right now. He's like, are they being for real right now?

[B]

Is my name actually part of the. Part of the equation?

[A]

It's not.

[B]

It's not Grayson.

[A]

Okay. I don't even. I'm, like, nervous to say this out loud.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

But it's. I love it. But it's also. I gotta say, it's cracking me up.

[B]

Okay. Do you wanna say it or should

[A]

I say, I don't know how do you wanna do it?

[B]

I love wiping my ass with water. A shooting spray of water shooting right into my butthole. Is that.

[A]

That's probably close.

[B]

I mean, is that what you were going to say?

[A]

I was going to say this. I can't. I'm actually, like, breaking. As I said, what this podcast is brought. Can you say it, please?

[B]

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[A]

I'm famous. Yes. That's what I'm famous about.

[B]

Yes, you are famous.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

I'm. I'm always on the go. Right? I don't know. I don't have a lot of time to, like, oh, I'm spend, what, six minutes making sure that all little pieces

[B]

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[A]

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The fuck?

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Oh.

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[A]

I really liked your effects, and I feel like I didn't give them the proper thank you spotlight. They were doing that moment.

[B]

No, it's okay. I. That was. You know, it's okay. It's tushy, you know? Yeah, yeah. Clean your butt right?

[A]

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[B]

You did know that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I do that because of ExpressVPN and how they've helped me.

[A]

If you want to see those other titles, you'll have to find them on another streaming service. It's like paying a tariff just because you want to see a movie. I love. This is what I love about vpn.

[B]

Yeah, Tell me.

[A]

They're like the pirates of the Internet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not going to give me that title. I'm going to find. Excuse me. You're not giving me that title. I'm going to freaking find it. With VP. With ExpressVPN?

[B]

Yeah. Why?

[A]

Everyone needs a VPN. I'm about to do this in my own words, okay? I'm not going to. I'm not even going to look at the script. You can turn. You turn that thing off. I don't want to see it. Okay, here's the deal. Streaming services hide content from on your location. They have servers in over 105 countries including. And we're back in 50 United States, so you can gain access to thousands of New shows. You never run out of stuff to watch. Same goes for watching sports. Sometimes you get blackout games based on your location. I do?

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yes. I did get blackout games and all. It takes a few clicks with ExpressVPN to be able to watch every single baseball game all summer long. Okay, again, we're like the Internet pirates. Okay, so now that I know that I can do this, I'm not gonna be worried about blackouts anymore. I'm just gonna watch any baseball game I want. Well, they have servers in 105 countries in all 50 United States.

[B]

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[A]

Dender is something that was just a fake name in a video we made before the podcast even existed. Is that accurate?

[B]

That is accurate. And it's the only. ExpressVPN, I think, is the only place we have this promo code for Dender.

[A]

Props to ExpressVPN for sticking with Dender. ExpressVPN. We will do anything for you and with you.

[B]

We would love to do a sketch show with you if. If ExpressVPN wants to get in touch with some production company or streaming or whatever. If you just want us to put it on your website, we will do. Me and Kyle will do a sketch show. Yeah, Yeah, I see what's up.

[A]

I think that the sketch show could be because ExpressVPN allows you access to all of these TV shows and movies that you can't that are maybe in different countries or different places or you're blocked out of. Yeah, I think that could be an interesting component of the sketch show because we're using ExpressVPN to break into the streamers and the cable and all of this. And so we're getting these different feeds, and maybe you're even getting something from another planet.

[B]

And we're like, let's see what's happening there. And then we go in, and that's a sketch.

[A]

Ooh, baby.

[B]

Hi, hon.

[A]

It's my little, little guys.

[B]

Oh, it's our Kyle.

[C]

Don't be weird.

[B]

It's our. It's our teeny lady

[A]

all of a sudden. Kyle, what do you want me to

[B]

Tell you w. You're nervous.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, why? Because you guys have such great chemistry. And I'm like, I don't want to be the. Oh, yeah. And then there's Gorgo.

[B]

The.

[A]

The.

[B]

Is your name.

[A]

Are you.

[B]

Is that how you think of yourself, as Gorgo?

[C]

No, it's just me, Jessica.

[B]

Yeah, you can call her Jess.

[A]

All right, cool. You know what happened. Can I tell you about what happened the other day, Jesse? Jess. I do call you Jess.

[C]

I am reaching out for you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

This is embarrassing, and I feel like I do. I think. I don't think it's. I don't think it was true.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Beck said something to me like, oh, boy. He's like. He's like. And plus, when Jessica comes in, and I'm like, is Jesse's name Jessica?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I must have. I must have known that.

[C]

But why would you. Actually.

[B]

Yeah. You call me Christopher more than anybody.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You like? I think there's something about you that likes the formality of.

[A]

I do like the name Christopher, and I like the story behind it. But when. Yeah. Do people in your life, like, let's get into it. Do you still call.

[B]

I will say people call. Nobody calls you Jessica, but people who just met you will just start calling you Jess.

[C]

Yeah, well, sometimes. And that's always. I do find that that's like, a type of person who's like. It's interesting when someone starts to be that familiar that quickly. You're like, oh, I'm Jess.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. People I just meet will start calling me Moony. And I feel very uncomfortable with that because, like, that, to me is, like,

[B]

that's a college name.

[A]

It's an intimate, like, nickname that's so intimate.

[C]

I wouldn't dare call you that. I've known you for 15 years.

[A]

You could, though. And that's why I felt so bad about the Jessica thing was, like, I should. Exactly. I've known this person for a decent portion of my life. I was like, oh, her name is Jessica?

[C]

Yes. But here's the thing about it. My parents, when they were deciding both. Both with me and my sister, they didn't know if they were gonna have a boy or a girl. It was set to be a surprise. And they chose one name. Oh, I was always gonna be Jesse if I were a boy, I would be Jesse if I were a girl. And then at the last minute, they were like, but Jessica. Cause she's a girl, and it's the 80s, and we'll just do the Full thing. And my sister's full name is Alex.

[A]

Okay. See, I didn't know. I was gonna ask. I was like, Allie, I don't. I don't. I didn't put it together, but there you go.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Alex. Okay.

[B]

Okay. So. So for everybody, it's Jessica Hodges. We call her Jesse. And.

[C]

And if you want to call me Jess, you can. But it will say something about you.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So I gotta know, like, this dynamic, to me, has always intrigued me because, like, Beck is sort of the, like, kind of like. Oh, you know, like, kind of man about town. You're more of like, hey, you know what I mean? So kind of explain, like. Yeah, what's. How did. How did it all come together?

[B]

Oh, how did we meet? Yeah, I mean, wow. Is that. Should we do that right away or.

[C]

How did it come together? How did we. How it came together?

[B]

We did meet when Kyle and I were living together.

[C]

Yes, we did. And we met. Like, I was thinking, I. I met you guys at the exact same time.

[A]

Is that true? Well, you did a Britannic video.

[B]

Yeah, we did a video.

[C]

So I met you probably a couple weeks before I met Kyle.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is crazy.

[A]

It is. It is wild to, like, know. Yes. That I know you. Yeah, it's, like, really crazy.

[B]

Yeah, that's really crazy that we all met together. We were all hanging out together, and now. Okay, let's just. Let's just. Just get. I start from the beginning, I guess.

[A]

Your mom was in Evil Dead 2.

[C]

Evil Dead.

[A]

Sorry, I. Forgive me. Evil Dead. And I was curious. You grew up in Michigan. You're an actor. She was an actor. How much of that were you thinking about as a child? And how much were you influenced by the fact that she was an actor? You know, you're not necessarily close to New York or la. Did you get the bug from her? Was it independent of her?

[C]

Yes, massively. Because my mom was, like, I always say, like. Like, she was like an actress, like, in the spiritual sense. She did do some work professionally, but she never moved to New York or la. But as, like, how she identified and how she saw the world was very much as an actor. So our, like, everything that involved play when we were kids was had to do with performing, had to do with watching things, had to do with, like, imitating, making each other laugh. So it was, like, really, really in my house from an early age.

[B]

And she also. She grew up in a very artistic home. Yes, right. Like, her and all her sisters were. One of your aunts was like, a prodigy piano player. Another was a ballet dancer. So, like, that you felt. Did you feel that as well, coming from your aunts and your grandmother and, like, the appreciation of the.

[C]

Yeah. My grandfather was a concert pianist. And yeah, it was just like. There was like. My mom grew up in a house where the arts were, like, very intensely revered. She loved that. But that was. There was a lot of pressure involved in that. And so she had a bit of, like, a looser approach. But also, you know, my sister was a classical musician too, and younger than me, which was. I don't recommend that having a younger

[B]

sister who's a classical musician.

[C]

Yeah. Because she was like.

[B]

Cause you guys were both singing. Like, you guys both grew up singing and she had. Yes.

[C]

Plus she was, like, playing violin and guitar and piano and like, every day she would, like, learn a new instrument. She was just. I was musical, but she was, like, truly musical. She is truly musical and was so good, so young that she just, like, put me to shame.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And do you. And I've. I've hung out with Ali and she put on a very wonderful concert a couple Christmases ago that I was able. I don't want to say a concert, but she performed for some of. For some families at your home.

[B]

Just a sing along. As a little sing along, she put

[A]

on, like, this, like, really elaborate concert. You guys seem to have such a good dynamic, and maybe I'm going too far into this idea, but. Were you jealous? Does that. Was that a layer of your relationship or no? Is it just like, oh, that's awesome.

[C]

I'm jealous now?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I don't think I was jealous because I was the older sister, so I was like. I was like, you're nothing to me. Like, you know, you're always, like, looking up. But I think I. I was intimidated.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It just made me go like, oh, that's not for me. I'm not going to be playing instruments because I'm never going to do it as well as she does. So I'll just be over here acting, basically.

[B]

How old were you when you, like, made that shift?

[C]

I think early. Like. Yeah, 8, 10. It started.

[B]

Yeah. Very clear that earlier. And when did you start? You grew up going to Interlochen School for the Arts in the summers. Right. How old were you when you started doing that?

[C]

Eight.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And I did piano the first year, and then I was like, so you

[B]

pick your focus every summer.

[C]

Yeah. And you have to, like, audition.

[B]

And you have to audition every single summer.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And for people who don't know interlocking is a school for the arts in Northern Michigan. It's a beautiful setting.

[C]

It's a boarding school during the year, and it's a camp during the summer. And I went for eight years and my mom went and my sister went.

[B]

So this is like acting, singing, performing. It's something you always wanted to do.

[C]

It was part of the deal.

[B]

It was part of the deal, Yeah. I think in elementary school, you were. There was like, an assignment that was like, what are you going to be when you grow up? And you said, I'm going to be an actor and move to New York City.

[C]

Or L. A.

[B]

Or L. A. You said, either one.

[C]

I said, I'm going to be an actress and I'm going to move to New York.

[B]

We still. Do we still have it, or is it a photo of it?

[C]

Yeah, I have a. Well, I have a photo of it.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And you did. How do you. Do you think about that? That. That you did it?

[C]

Yeah, but I'm. But then sometimes I'm like, did I. I mean.

[B]

Oh, you did. You. Absolutely back.

[A]

And I. Of course you did.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

No, I was. Beck asked me how much research I did today, and I was like, well, I read Jesse's Wikipedia. I. Oh, God. And then what did it. Well, how do. I mean, my point being that, like, you have been on so many. You have done so many things you've done that I'm so even aware of. Like, you didn't have to tell me you're on the Goldbergs.

[C]

Yeah, Very postpartum Goldberg.

[B]

I like to remember that Goldberg's whatchamacallit. True Blood, Grey's Anatomy, Mike and Molly, this girl.

[A]

Booked, Unlisted.

[B]

Enlisted indebted.

[C]

Enlisted indebted.

[B]

Enlisted indebted. But barry.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Hindsight.

[A]

Pen 15.

[C]

Pen 15, don't forget.

[B]

I was going to say all the. Everything except for pen 15.

[A]

Besides still waters.

[C]

Besides Still Water.

[B]

Besides the Waters, which is a movie we did together. Check it out. It holds up. But you. You. Like. I feel like I have gotten two things off of auditions, maybe three. And you've gotten so many.

[A]

Yeah, Jesse works.

[B]

She works. Which, like. I mean, you're just a great actor. You make very clear choices. That elevates the writing and people hire you.

[C]

I think you guys were, like, making videos and at UCB and performing live and, like, making sketch. Whatever. And I was, like, auditioning.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, I. For some reason, I want to say similarly, like, with you and Ally, it was like me and Kyle, like, we weren't. We were like, oh, we're not getting auditions. We'll make our own sets.

[A]

We're like, the way I still feel.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. It's like, oh, I got to, like, make an opportunity over here.

[A]

Are you guys constantly reading tapes together?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How is that dynamic?

[C]

Big time.

[B]

It's good now. It started rough. It started rough because also, it started when we were kind of bi. Coastal, right? Like, I was doing snl, you were at our house in la, and you would be doing them with Jody or Sarah. And then I would come in, these two of your friends who are actors, and you guys would do tapes for each other, and I would come in, like, on my off weeks, exhausted or

[C]

tired, whatever, and I'd be like, you don't get it.

[B]

Yeah. And I'd be like. Or I'd be like. Or it wouldn't be. I'd have a reaction to a choice or something. Or like. And you'd be like, what. What was that? I'd be like, no, I just think that. And you're like. You'd be. I wasn't asking for thoughts.

[C]

Literally, get out of here. Like, this is toxic.

[B]

You're done. I fucking book. We've already gone over this. In your podcast. In the future, I book you don't. Don't tell me what to do. No, no, no. But I. But I. I think I was. I was not a. I was not. I was not as supportive as I could have been. And I. I've. I grow. We've gotten into a rhythm, and, like, it takes. It takes time.

[C]

It's hard to take direction from each other. Do you and Kate do it?

[A]

Oh, she auditions more than me. And yes, we do do it. And I will say, like, I don't. I don't often give direction unless I, like, kind of like, if. If the piece has, like, a com. If there's, like, a comedy thing to it that I can sense, like, oh, I bet if you delivered this line in this way, it might get something. But. But I will say I. I've. I've read with you. I feel like. I remember you helped me during hello Ladies and maybe a couple other things, but I did. Beck gave me great direction, I remember. Oh, great.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And you gave me good direction, actually, in a movie we worked on together. That was really helpful.

[B]

Which movie?

[A]

Wait.

[B]

Kill Me now. Oh, man.

[A]

Which I've never seen.

[B]

It's so crazy how many things I just don't remember, like, are just, like, total blank spots in my brain, but. So you said you were gonna be an actor and live in la? And New York.

[C]

Yeah, I guess.

[B]

And you went to nyu, the experimental theater wing.

[A]

Did you do a lot of massaging? That's what.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, we talked to anatomical about it now. Is there. And we talked about the crazy stuff that happened at this school that can no longer happen because our social norms have changed, I guess. Is there, like. How would you describe the experimental theater wing? And, like. And, like, you know, the good things or whatever. Like, what it meant to you?

[C]

It was like. It was the best thing that's ever happened to me.

[B]

Wow. It is an incredible group of people.

[A]

You guys have a child?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

Beck and I.

[B]

Experimental theater Wings still number one.

[C]

It's the second best thing that's ever happened to me.

[A]

And you married back.

[C]

It's the third best thing that's ever happened to me.

[B]

Love you back.

[A]

And you got to see Good Neighbor live.

[B]

Oh, that's true.

[A]

That's true.

[C]

That was huge. Okay, so it's like the seventh best thing that's ever happened to me. But it. It was like the. How I would describe it, which is probably not how it should be described. It probably is owed more than this. But, like, it was all about stripping down everything. And especially the first year. Like, we. We did actually eventually get to do scene study. But I remember for months and months being, like, we haven't spoken. We're not talking, let alone acting.

[A]

You mean you're not doing, like, dialogue scenes?

[C]

Yeah, we're not doing, like, any. Like, we're in classes, essentially pretending we're like amoebas.

[A]

Oh, right.

[C]

Rolling on the floor, like.

[B]

Like, making sounds.

[C]

Yeah. Like guttural sounds. Like, not language sounds.

[A]

Yeah. Now, is there anyone in these situations who's either, like, very good at it or very bad at it?

[C]

Like, kind of.

[A]

Jerry. Can't do the sounds.

[C]

Well, yeah, but, like.

[B]

But then, like, would turn out to be a good actor.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You know what I mean? Or. No. Really? Okay. No, that's interesting.

[A]

Good actors do good sounds.

[B]

What you're saying, because they're able to let go.

[C]

Well, because. Yeah. So, like. Because the people. When. When you're like, ooh. Is when you see someone doing a thing, you're like, oh, you're putting something on. You're supposed to just be, like, releasing and relax and however that sounds. And it sounds horrific, but if there's someone in the corner who's going, like. And, like, doing a thing that's bad. It's kind of like. Are you trying to draw attention to yourself? What's the. Is this a release for you? Or is this a performance? This is supposed to not be the performance.

[B]

Now, I don't want to put you on the spot, but you set this up. Could you do us the good version of that? Could you do us?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, let's see.

[C]

It would be like. It would be like,

[B]

all right. Yeah. And that's going viral, sister.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I was like.

[A]

You just transformed into, like, kind of a hoe.

[B]

You were listening to your body. You were letting it happen. You weren't pushing it.

[C]

I knew you were gonna have me here.

[B]

And she get you to do your.

[A]

So both of you guys did. Now, both you guys did sort of acting.

[B]

Yeah, we both did acting schools. And you kind of went to a film school.

[A]

Who? I'm curious.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Who?

[A]

I'm curious for both of you. You're in acting school. You're at usc, right? Back in the day. Trojans fight on. You're at nyu. Tisch, the experimental.

[B]

The Fighting Violets. Yeah.

[A]

I've got to know. Who of the of your classmates did you like the least? Now name them. And I want to know because I know some of you. I know some people you went to school with. I don't know, but I want to

[B]

know who they are.

[A]

What are their names?

[C]

Oh, my God. I can't say.

[B]

Probably Cranley.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dexter.

[B]

Yeah, There you go. Sorry, guys. Because they were fake, and they were also vindictive and manipulative.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they kind of had sex with

[A]

everybody and used it, but not a malicious way.

[B]

No. Yeah. You know, like, they had sex, and then they'd be like, oh, yeah, I had sex with this person. Does that mean jealous?

[A]

Cranly up to Cranlin. Sorry.

[B]

Oh, no, no. Is. Is running Paramount.

[C]

Yeah. Cranlin.

[B]

Cranlin.

[A]

Dexter, I imagine, is Dexter.

[C]

I don't know what he's up to. He smelled. Really? And you really have to be aware of, like, other people's bodies in the space.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

It's kind of like the number one rule.

[B]

Stinky.

[C]

Stinky. He was stinky. Stinky. And I think he was one of those guys who, like, thought he was an ally. Oh, she, like, saw him performative. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I think.

[A]

I bet. I bet I could. Actually, I. I have a person I think probably, like, the least in acting class in my head.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. What's her name? First and last.

[A]

Interesting. You think it's a her?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I think I know who it is.

[A]

There's a person that I constantly send photos of to Beck Bennett.

[B]

Oh, no, he's not the Person I like the least. Yeah. Just to be clear, it's. It's me. Back Bennett.

[C]

Oh, Back Bennett.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So you went to nyu and.

[B]

And now.

[A]

Yeah, let's. Let's do the quick version because I. Because I. I mean, I don't know what questions you have.

[B]

I. I know her really well. I mean, like, I know. I. It's. It is. It is hard to. I mean, like, I pretend you have

[C]

questions for your wife a little bit. I'm pretty much sorry.

[B]

No, no. But I do. I. You know, it's just. It's fun to. To go through the journey and get into it and kind of get into it naturally, see what comes up and. And ask questions. But you did. You came out here for pilot season.

[C]

I did.

[B]

And you lived with your mom. Yeah, and my aunt.

[C]

And my aunt.

[B]

Because your mom was out here.

[C]

My mom was out here for a stint after my parents got divorced.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Trying out Los Angeles.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Ultimately did not go her way.

[B]

No, no, it did not.

[C]

She wasn't an Angelino at heart.

[B]

She can't stand it. We love you, Ellen. We love you here in Los Angeles, Ellen.

[C]

Even though you don't love Los Angeles.

[B]

Yeah, she loves Asheville, which is where she's meant to be. And then. And then we met.

[C]

So I came out here for pilot season, which is crazy that that existed. And Nick and Brian of Britannic were shooting a sketch out here, and I think it was maybe, like, the first one they had ever shot out here.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I had already shot at least two sketches with them in New York, maybe more. And they were like, can you do this sketch out here? And I was like, yes, this is absolutely. Like, when they would call me to do a sketch, it was like the most thrilling thing. And. And they were like, okay, we're gonna get this guy. And. Okay. I don't understand. I don't know what the confusion was, but I thought that you were from a group called Toast. I didn't understand that that was a video.

[B]

Right, right.

[C]

Like, the Internet was young. This was like, new stuff.

[A]

So wait, did Britannic. Did they say, like, oh, he's from the video Toast? Or on your own research, did you come across the word toast?

[C]

Oh, I wasn't doing research. It was like, yeah, like they said. They must have said, he's from this.

[B]

Like, anyway, oh, have you seen Toast?

[C]

Or whatever. Exactly. And I was like, okay, so a guy from Toast is going to play my. My ex boyfriend in this sketch, and that's all. And I knew that they Thought he was really great.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But that's all I knew.

[B]

And then we were in the sketch together. I basically had no lines. I played your boyfriend in it. In the sketch, Nick is.

[C]

Oh right, you. Sorry I made you my ex boyfriend. You were my boyfriend.

[B]

I was your boyfriend? Yeah. When we first met. We were. The scene we were shooting was like, Nick is in the sketch. Nick Kocher is stalking you.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

And you're his ex girlfriend.

[C]

Right. That's what it is.

[B]

And he comes into our house in the middle of the night. He's pretending to do like a restaurant. He has a restaurant review show. And he's like, let's review this restaurant.

[C]

And it's like, because I work at a restaurant.

[B]

You work at a restaurant that first gets you. And then he's like, it escalates. And he gets more and more drunk and he like shows up at your house and he comes in. Anyway, we're sitting there on these stairs in this house at like midnight, from like midnight to 2am and like I'm wearing a cut off shirt that says chick magnet.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

And we're like sitting in like a stairwell and I have to keep coming in, like scream. Both of us have to keep coming in screaming.

[C]

Yeah. And it's like 2am and like they're

[B]

trying to figure it out in the moment. We're just like sitting there tired, like completely uninterested in each other.

[C]

Pretty much.

[B]

Pretty much. Yeah. Just like. Yeah. Hey, how's it going?

[A]

Yeah. Interesting.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And like we, I think we had a nice conversation, but it wasn't like.

[C]

It was like really late at night and maybe we both sort of had. I was coming out of like a, a really big relationship in New York. Like we were just kind of thinking about other things, I think.

[B]

Yeah. And then eventually we kept. We got to hang out again.

[A]

You're saying after the, the video wraps. That was, that was a section of time. That was interaction. And then you get another.

[B]

I found out that she was still in Los Angeles. I was with Brian and Nick. I was like, invite her out tonight. We hung out. We had a really fun night.

[C]

Well, and before that? Before that, my sister and I. My sister was in town visiting. We were walking on Venice Boardwalk and I see these like guys coming up and I see Beck and I recognize him. I'm like, I know that guy. And the other guy is holding a camera. This guy would turn out to be Nick Rutherford.

[B]

He was holding the camera.

[C]

Yeah, he was holding the cake. It was just the two of you. And I remember like, vividly, as we were seeing each other, as we were, like, getting closer, I was like, allie, I don't remember his name. Allie, I don't remember his name. It's Breck.

[B]

Or I think it's something like Breck, here comes toast.

[C]

So asking, what is, hi, how are you? But I thought. I was like, I think it's Breck.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Which is the story of your life.

[B]

Everybody thinks I'm Breck.

[C]

Breck and Jessica.

[B]

Breck and Jessica. Yeah, we were shooting Theater of Life.

[C]

Yeah, they were shooting Theater Life.

[A]

So wait, so Britannic shoot, you're in work acting mode or whatever. You're not conversing a ton. And you guys can tell me if I'm again, digging too deep here. Did either of you. Were either of you, like, there's something there, or did none of. There's, like, an attraction? There was. Did none of that even exist in that.

[B]

That day when we were shooting? Nothing.

[C]

Nothing. Yeah, day one, but then there was like, a day two where we were in that car.

[B]

Where we. In the car. We were isolated. We were like. And that.

[A]

And that day two of shoot.

[B]

Day two of shooting, it was like

[C]

a week later in an isolation chamber.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we were also, like. It was. We were like. I don't know, like, wearing normal clothes, not pajamas, in the middle of the night. There was, like, light. We could see each other and talk. And there was like. And it was fun.

[C]

Yeah. It was, like, a little bit more chemistry.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

But still kind of not.

[A]

And then there's the. And then after. The Breck moment still comes after that.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And then. So in that moment, what's going through your head? Just like, I kind of know this guy is the extent of it.

[C]

No, it's like, hmm.

[A]

I think there's something about the Brett guys.

[C]

Something about Brett, I think, for people out in the world is kind of important.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

You know, like, see, you see someone in pajamas on a stairwell. You see someone in a car, we're, like, shooting someone else's stuff. And then you're like, oh, he's out in the world shooting his own stuff, right?

[B]

Yeah. This is a different part because we're both there thinking about, like, what we're doing and how we're coming across in this sketch or whatever. But. Yeah. And then found out you were still here, invited you out. We had a fun night with Brian and Nick.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then.

[A]

Which, by the way, like, just to spell this out for now, since I'm here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My perspective on the thing is, like, we were probably living together at this time. Oh, you.

[B]

Yes, definitely. Yeah.

[A]

So I was not invited, like.

[B]

So you were not invited out with

[A]

Brian Universe, where, like, I'm just sort of like, at home while all of this is happening.

[C]

Well, you come into this. You come into. You're at the next thing.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Which is the Good Neighbors show.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[C]

There's a Good Neighbor show.

[A]

I remember that. It ends up at the bar. Yes. It ends up at the White.

[B]

At the White Horse, which is where I had my jacket party.

[A]

Yes. And they had the hot dogs.

[B]

Yes. And the popcorn.

[A]

Was it. It was. Was there hot dogs and the old.

[B]

Big, Big, big hot dogs. Big sausages.

[A]

And so. Wait, that. Okay, sorry.

[B]

So that. But that was another thing. You coming out to the show is because Alex and our good friend Alex and Fanger was like, I want to go see the show.

[C]

No, I think I said to him, I want to go see the show. I like that guy. And he goes, me too. And I was like, no, no. I like. I like him. And he was like, me too.

[B]

And Alex has become one of my best friends.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So that was a big night for me. So my best friend and my wife came to go come see my show.

[C]

Did have a crush on.

[B]

He did.

[A]

I didn't know that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you. I think he probably had a crush.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. But so, like, that was. That wasn't because, like, Brian and Nick were like, go see the show. We're coming to see. It was a totally, like. You found out about it. And then we went to an after party at the White Horse, which no longer exists.

[A]

There's been no kiss yet.

[B]

No kiss? No, no. There's been no opportunity. But there was with the night we had with Brian and Nick. It was. What happened was we went out to a bar, sang karaoke. Jesse sang that song Meet me at the altar in my white dress. What is it? The Meet me at the altar in your.

[C]

Let's get married.

[B]

Let's get married keeps repeating at the end of it. It's one of those karaoke songs. You're like, why did I pick this?

[A]

Right.

[C]

Don't do it.

[B]

But that night, we went back to their seedy Hollywood hotel.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And got Fred 62. And smoked weed and, like, made. We still have videos from that night. And we both walked to the parking lot together. And it was a perfect moment where I could have maybe kissed you, but I was. I was high and I was like, yeah, I'll see you. I'll see you around.

[C]

Yeah. And I was like, okay.

[B]

But it was definitely, like, I should have tried to do some, but it wasn't like we had. It wasn't like a date.

[C]

No, no. Because it was like, we're, like, hanging out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It was buddies.

[A]

How many times have you guys relived that moment or talked about it? If ever The.

[C]

Like, we've talked about it. For sure.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So now we're at the Good Neighbor show.

[B]

Good Neighbor show. After party, we're hanging out and.

[C]

Can I just say for a second?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

To be. What year is this? This is 2011. To be at a good neighbor show at UCB on Sunset in 2011 Franklin.

[B]

But, yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Franklin.

[A]

All good. All good.

[C]

So sorry to the community. I apologize. But, God, that was exciting.

[B]

It was.

[C]

Yeah, that was.

[B]

That was such a fun.

[C]

Exciting than any.

[B]

Any that. Anything from here on. Yeah, that was like. We were like.

[C]

I was like. I met UCB on Franklin and Good Neighbors performing, and I don't know who's going to be there, and it was so exciting.

[B]

And we can, like, go out and drink alcohol and not worry about what's going to happen the next day because we don't have anything to do.

[C]

God, that was great.

[B]

It was great. And. And then we had a house party, like, a couple days later. What'd you say?

[A]

Oh, no, I was just thinking about, like, back then, like, they would just put Good Neighbor on the UCU website. We'd immediately sell out. And you didn't really have to do any work to sell tickets, kind of.

[B]

It was a small theater website.

[A]

Just did the work for you. And it just seems like it's a little more difficult to get people to

[C]

come out these days.

[A]

But, yeah, we're talking about. I'm all good.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And if you're not, you can talk about it.

[C]

No, that's okay. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Well, you know, I also. My parents split up when I was in fourth or fifth.

[C]

I'm so sorry.

[A]

Separated. The divorce took a long time.

[B]

That's hard on you, High school.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I've always been, I guess, the little guy, so to speak.

[B]

Yeah. Is that because. It's because they were calling you that

[A]

during the divorce or the. Them and their lawyers. What are we gonna do with the little guy?

[B]

What are we gonna do?

[A]

Oh, and I think it actually was written in the papers, like, we got to figure out something.

[B]

So that was a part of their divorce that they had to figure out something.

[A]

I understand.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I would love to see that.

[A]

Yeah, no, no, it's all good. What were you saying? Okay.

[B]

So, yeah, thanks for sharing that. Thank.

[C]

And sorry again about all that stuff.

[A]

It's all good.

[C]

Okay, then.

[B]

But then we had a party and you came, and then we had fun at the party at our house where we lived together and I lived on the porch.

[A]

Was that a theme party? That was just a house party. Was that somebody's birthday party?

[B]

Was that the somebody A bird?

[C]

It was the next night.

[B]

It was the next night because I remember.

[A]

Or the bird party.

[B]

Was it the bird party?

[C]

No, I don't recall, but there could have been a theme that I could have.

[A]

The bird party would have been my birthday. And it was a bird day.

[B]

It was a bird day.

[C]

When?

[A]

Kyle's Day.

[B]

Kyle's bird day.

[C]

Wait, I actually. I'm really surprised I can't think of your birthday. What is your birthday again?

[A]

All good. September 4th.

[C]

What's your birthday, little guy?

[A]

My mother was in labor on Labor Day.

[B]

Oh, amazing.

[C]

Right, right, right. Okay. I don't think that was.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know if there was a theme, but. And then afterwards, after the party, we were. The thing we were talking about at the party, there was something we were talking about. It's so stupid. You were like. You brought up brain science. And I was like, no, it's brain. It's like rocket science. Like, you were like, it doesn't take a. It doesn't take a brain scientist to figure that out.

[C]

Yes. I was like, take a brain.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I was like, no. It's either. It doesn't take a brain surgeon or it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

[C]

Really? Like, me and Alex were, like, so hard about that.

[B]

We were giving you a hard time.

[C]

Like, they gave me such a hard time about it. So I did my research.

[A]

Sorry. And we're at. This is at our house.

[C]

Yes. We're, like, flirting, and so I'm probably, like, kind of.

[B]

Where do you think you are? Like, what was your. Yeah, you might.

[C]

There were hundreds of people there.

[B]

Yeah, we had big parties. That was sick. That was a fun time.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm sort of, like, kind of crouched in, like, a corner. Like, I bet you're playing a game boy.

[B]

I bet you're. You're kind of. You're pursuing a young lady.

[C]

I think so, too.

[B]

I'm sure you were.

[A]

That ain't like me. That ain't like.

[B]

Yeah, right. Ladies, man. Dude, come on. Look at that. He knows what he's doing.

[C]

Kyle. We know.

[A]

It was a good time for me. I Don't know. Sorry. What were we saying about you?

[C]

You and.

[A]

You and Beck.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

Let's get into it.

[B]

I said pursuing a lady.

[A]

Not like.

[B]

Not, you know.

[C]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[B]

But, yeah, I think it was still a fun time.

[A]

Please stay with me in my house tonight.

[C]

That's what it was.

[A]

Will you sleep over?

[C]

That I recognize.

[A]

I'm desperate for a girlfriend.

[C]

It was just like that.

[A]

I like you so much.

[B]

You were just going around, going around for one girl, like, please sleep over.

[A]

Please sleep over. I could kick any of these people out in a second. If you just stay.

[B]

Just sleep in my room.

[A]

I won't be in it.

[B]

That's exactly. That was kind of your vibe at the party. It's crazy.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

You can remember that the next day, though. To keep it. To keep it going. You put an article on my Facebook wall.

[C]

No, no, no. Not on the wall. I wouldn't dare post to the wall. It was a message.

[B]

It was a message.

[C]

And I said, just so you know, brain science is a thing, as evidenced here by the New York Times. And it was like an article about brain science.

[B]

Sure. Which. And I was like, all right, well, we should talk about this in person.

[C]

Oh, you said we should discuss this over dinner.

[A]

I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know you had my man.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I learned a couple of things.

[A]

How do you feel, in retrospect? Do you stand by the brain science thing? You found the evidence in the.

[B]

Well, we all know brain science is a thing, right?

[C]

Oh, do we now?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, no, no.

[B]

But I thought it was. It was. It was the saying of. Oh, it doesn't take a brain scientist to figure that out. But that works.

[A]

I think I'm on Beck's side, and I don't mean that in like a.

[B]

But you're right, too, because a brain scientist is a smart person.

[C]

You know what I think I said? I think I said, doesn't take a brain scientist. I think I said, it's not brain science. So it's like, still.

[B]

Yeah, because. Because people say it's not rocket science, or they say it's not. It's not brain surgery.

[C]

That's okay.

[A]

It doesn't take a brain surgeon.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that right?

[B]

I think so. This is kind of the. This is a little bit of the Mandela effect.

[C]

And then maybe.

[B]

Who could know?

[C]

I don't stand by it. No.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Well, I appreciate you asking.

[A]

I'm so happy you guys came together. So you. You got. You ended up getting dinner and I imagine kissed. Well, I was gonna say because I

[C]

didn't want to announce.

[B]

Yes, my lady.

[C]

We didn't.

[B]

We didn't the first night.

[A]

Okay. How many times have you guys.

[B]

In total.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

At least.

[C]

Okay. So I. As of a couple nights ago, that would be 9436.

[B]

Yeah, I was going to say 20, but yeah, I think 9000 is right.

[A]

I'm imagining you guys do. It's really cool.

[B]

Yeah. Thanks, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[A]

What is something. I want to get into the new show because that's. That's the real.

[B]

That's the reason we're here.

[A]

But I. I'm not going to get into.

[B]

Not to talk about how we met and how we.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sorry. This is going to be your worst episode.

[A]

Yeah, no, this is. Are you kidding me? This is like. I actually just heard from some fans.

[C]

You did?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. From the. From the Patreon. Yeah.

[A]

By the way, check out the Patreon. It's not only going to help you

[B]

out, it's going to help out this family.

[C]

Yeah, the Patreon videos are really good.

[A]

Oh, thank you.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay, so here's my. Here's my question, because we got. We've got some insider. We got. We got. We get some insider info here.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

So for our listeners, who. They see a version of Beck. They hear a version of Beck. They get to see Beck and Kyle, they get to see this dynamic. They've seen our videos. They saw him on Saturday Night Live. What is something that you can tell us about Beck that the world might not know?

[C]

Oh,

[B]

you can. We can come back to that.

[A]

Yeah. You want to just hold on to it and put it.

[B]

You can put it in your head, and then maybe even at the outro,

[A]

it's a good teaser, like.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But also, if you have something, you can say it, but no pressure. Yeah, but you. We are here because of your new show that is out.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

You booked so many shows, and this is one of them. You freaking earn it. You show up, you do your job, and you make everybody fall in love with you.

[C]

Thanks, bitch.

[B]

Yeah, fuck that.

[C]

Thank you for saying that.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

I love how supportive you guys are. I don't like the way you talk about it, though.

[B]

Oh. It's kind of. Kind of badass. Kind of like fucking young and shit.

[C]

I'm trying to meet the moment.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Sorry. I didn't know if this was, like,

[C]

a way that you think we do that at home.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I'm like, good morning, bitch.

[A]

Good morning, bitch.

[B]

Fucking slay today. You're gonna fucking get up and get

[C]

me my fucking coffee, bitch.

[B]

That is one thing that's a little something that Jesse loves more than anything is coffee in bed when she wakes up. And she did it for me the other morning, and it was really.

[A]

You're talking about in the morning?

[B]

In the morning, yeah.

[C]

You ever do that for Kate?

[A]

Did I bring her, I think coffee in bed. I've, like, put together a coffee a couple times, but.

[B]

Put together a coffee.

[A]

Well, she has. Yeah. No, no, no. Come after me.

[B]

No, no. I just thought it was funny way to say I put together.

[A]

No, no. Yeah, come after little guy. Why not?

[C]

Yeah, you put together a coffee. He's not wrong.

[B]

Yeah, you put together a coffee.

[A]

By the way, I heard we're gonna get into the show, but I've heard of these legendary hangs you guys have after Ruby goes down. Jake Johnson was actually talking about this.

[B]

I told Jesse. I was like, this might come up. This might come up our leg.

[A]

But you guys, like, kind of like play Monopoly.

[B]

What's the Rummy Cube?

[C]

Rummy Cube is not the game every night.

[B]

Or we'll wordle on the little balcony.

[C]

We did. I think I started to realize that every couple doesn't hang out at night. Like most people, I think, go off and do their own thing, which, by the way, we're starting to do more.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But it was funny to realize Beck and I have been hanging out every night for 25 years thinking this is like what married couples do.

[A]

And, yeah, it's very.

[B]

He goes down, we, like, smoke a little weed, maybe get a little snack, watch something, play a little game. A little game. Goof around a little bit.

[A]

Yeah, we'll have a glass of. We'll have a glass of wine. But it does seem like that. Yeah, that is more involved than I bet a lot of people. And that's. There is a bond that I feel when you guys are together and you lift each other up. And I see it. I see Beck. You know, I don't just see Beck the interviewer here or Beck the podcaster. I see Beck the supporter, the lover, the best friend.

[C]

That's so beautiful.

[B]

That's very sweet.

[A]

Tell us about Maximum Superdive.

[B]

Maximum Super Drive. Okay. Jesse has a new show, Maximum Pleasure Guaranteed. I do on Apple. Yeah. Tell us a little bit about it.

[C]

Okay. It is. It's a dark comedy. It's a dark comedy. Thriller is what they're calling it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Which is accurate, I think.

[B]

Yeah, it's. I've seen the first five episodes as you have, and it's so good. It's an incredible show. Everybody who's listening, please watch this when it comes out. It's great.

[C]

Yeah. It would support our family and it would mean that our child can eat for another day.

[B]

So one more day.

[C]

No, it's really. David Gordon Green directed the pilot. It's really propulsive and, like, unnerving. And Tatiana Maslany is the star. So she plays this woman named Paula who is going through a rough time. She's in a divorce and a custody battle and basically gets like, sort of sucked into this criminal underworld that's like way larger and deeper than she ever could have anticipated. And she has to sort of work her way out of it. But it's really, it is really good and exciting and the performances are great and the direction is, like, very inspired. It's one of the first times that I've read the script and been like, whoa, that's a good script. And then I've seen it and been like, oh, it's even better.

[B]

Like, they executed what was in my imagination, what it. The potential of it.

[C]

Yeah, it's really. I'm really excited about it. I'm not just saying that.

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's great. And your character is Mallory.

[C]

Uh huh.

[B]

Can you tell us about Mallory, please?

[C]

Mallory is, as Beck said when he saw it, a woman.

[B]

A woman. I have. I'm watching and I'm like, wow, you're like, you're like a woman. A woman in this.

[C]

Beck is. Beck went. I feel like a woman in this.

[B]

She's. She's like a high powered lawyer. It's like you're. It's described as wearing like Yves Saint Laurent, like designer clothes. Powerful. Like, Tatiana's character is a mess. And you are very put together, calm and in control.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And yes, you are her ex husband's new wife and they are co parenting their child and you're a part of it and.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, we're in this like, nasty triangle.

[B]

Wow. Yeah.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

You. This and this. You just shot this in the fall.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That is, to me seems like a very quick turnaround.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I thought that was quick too.

[B]

They're excited about it.

[A]

I remember.

[B]

But it's also half hour. Yeah, it's half hour.

[C]

It's half hour. Yeah.

[A]

But because I remember, see, excited. Of course I'm excited for the show. But also like, you know, it's interesting this is actually really interesting.

[C]

Sure, go ahead. Take your time.

[A]

You probably started shooting this in, what, August? September.

[C]

Yeah, August.

[A]

This show and the production of it has affected my life.

[B]

Oh. Because. Because I was gone. We were gone. Oh, right. No way.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Sorry.

[B]

Oh, sorry.

[A]

No, it's not that. I wrote an apology.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's just that's how intertwined we are. That.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Your child was taken out of a preschool, so. He wasn't in school with my child at that time.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

We weren't doing podcasts at that time. I. I got to hear about all the fun Beck was having in New York City.

[B]

We had a blast.

[A]

And how much Ruby liked walking around, scooting and scooting and.

[C]

Yeah, well, you've lived in New York. You enjoyed it, right?

[B]

You remember the old city.

[A]

Oh, absolutely. I lived in the West Village. I had a great time. And I remember actually, some late nights with you guys, but.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

Thank you. The thing is, when you have late nights with your friends.

[C]

Friends.

[A]

And you're. And you're having a little fun, that's when. That's when the truth comes out. But the. But the nice truths. Do you know what I'm saying? That, like, you're like.

[B]

I actually don't know what you're talking about.

[C]

You don't.

[B]

The nice truths come out late at night, dude.

[A]

I actually think, like, you actually really have. It just. You bring something different, man. Like, I really.

[C]

That's when. That's when we look at each other and we go, we've known each other a long.

[A]

You don't. You remember what. You know what I'm talking about?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

[C]

It's like, I feel like Kyle and I at, like, 3am on one of those nights, would go, we know each other so long. Yeah.

[A]

It's like.

[C]

And I have loved you since the second.

[B]

You've always been.

[C]

You've been such a good friend of Beck.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. That's really sweet.

[C]

That's when that happens.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you guys connected that way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it was nothing more than that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, absolutely. No, absolutely.

[A]

Of course. But, yeah, I did enjoy New York City, and I'm excited for the show. And it's on Apple.

[C]

It's on Apple.

[A]

And they. Because they did the. I remember when Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone, which I think so many people was like a new era.

[C]

Yeah. They do the iPhone. They do MacBooks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He. Beck, I'm pointing. If you're not. I don't know if you're listening or watching. You were the first person I knew to get an iPhone. So it's this full circle moment. Jesse's on the Apple show.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Beck was the first person I knew to get an iPhone.

[B]

And

[A]

I believe the Apple. There's also the Apple tv. The little box.

[C]

Yes. That's also Apple, which I used to

[A]

have plugged into my place in New York.

[B]

That's amazing.

[A]

But then I switched to a Roku,

[C]

and this is crazy.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Went to a Apple TV in my head.

[C]

Have you seen the iPad?

[A]

Yes. Oh, shoot. Yes.

[C]

Ruby watches that sometimes.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of Canadian planes do. Yeah. On planes and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

So that's also them.

[A]

Do they. Do you get. Because I've been telling everybody here at the podcast. This is real.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I. My computer is very old. Oh. It's a Mac book. And we were trying to get Apple involved somehow to give us some. Some swag. Do you have any connect with Apple?

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay. What is your idea for.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[B]

I wait real quick. One more little question. You do just to go back to the show. And you playing this character, Mallory, you do often play these characters that are in control and in positions of power. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. That's kind of. You bring that energy. Do you like playing that? Do you like getting to, like, know that kind of character in different ways through.

[C]

Well, this is interesting. This is interesting because I feel like you guys can probably really relate to this, which is that it's a little, like. It's like, the best. Worst thing. Like, I'm definitely pretty good at it. Like, there's a reason that this keeps happening.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But then also, I want to. I feel a little constrained by it, and I'm like. Like, I just want to let loose. I want to do something else. And I imagine, like, I imagine there I can think of, like, three different character styles that people always want you to do. Yeah, I know what people always want you to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's great. Cause you're great at it. And I'm sure you also. There's pressure, Right.

[A]

My main feeling is like, yeah, I think that for so long. Yeah, I was Awkward guy was probably the most standard to me. My main issue with it is that, like, I feel lazy. I feel like I can see myself doing. Making moves I've made before, and that is frustrating to me. And I beat myself up about that.

[C]

Yes, Yes, I can relate. It's like the dramatic version, which is kind of weird, but. Yeah. Like, Trying to make sure that each character feels distinct and earned and that you're not just, like, using your old tricks.

[A]

Right. But that's the thing. They're. They're good tricks and they've served you. So it's a. It's. And like, sometimes you want to give the people what they want.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. And I do think it is. They're casting, like an essence.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, you can't really, like, act your way into a different type.

[C]

Right, Right.

[B]

Like, you can't. I. You can't become these people that were.

[C]

Especially these days.

[B]

Especially these days they got so many people anymore. But. Yeah. So, like, is there. So you. You've done a lot of that and you will do more. Is people see more and more. They'll be like, oh, well. Because they. People cast what they see you in typically. Is there something, though, outside of that that you would like either a type of character or, you know, or even like a performance or an actor? Like something that you're like, I want to do that, and I feel like I can do that. I want to. And often you, like, know what you want to do when you read it. So I don't know if it's.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There is like, I feel. I feel like that's a. That's like an ever evolving thing because once you get to do something, you want to do something else, or it wasn't exactly what you thought it was going to be or whatever. But I feel like what I'm craving now is getting to do something that feels very grounded but very, like, deep and messy and cathartic. I'm thinking of, like. Like some of the more interesting stuff Kathryn Keener has. Has done. Or like, like Meryl Streep and Adaptation. Like, those kind of like, I want to play like a regular, grounded, flawed person that, like, comes undone in some way.

[B]

It's like not somebody who is like, just messy and falling apart as like. But somebody who has it together and then starts to fall apart.

[C]

Yeah. Like to. Yeah, there's. I would love to find something like that. Those are kind of like.

[B]

Because that would be like putting together. Because you've also played some nervous, anxious types.

[C]

Yeah, that's like my comedy type.

[B]

Yeah, it's your comedy type. So it'd be like, kind of like almost putting those two natures together a little bit.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

What do you guys. How do you. How do you guys feel about, like, in your life, how much do. How much act, how much thought about acting or your career if Your life is 1 through 10 or percentage. How much of. How much do you think you like, like, acting is the focal point? Do you know what I mean? Like, I'm spending the day thinking about this or I'm preparing for this. That make any sense how.

[B]

What we said 1 through 10, I said that.

[A]

But no, it could be 50%, 60%.

[C]

Are you differentiating, like, acting versus, like, general career work in the entertainment industry?

[A]

Like, let's generalize it. Because, I mean, like. Yeah, let's generalize it.

[C]

So generally.

[A]

Yeah, career.

[C]

So it's. It's embarrassingly high.

[A]

Like, it's above 50%, way below. But above 90% or at 90%, 80%, 70%, 80, 85.

[C]

It's a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, also, like, you. Yeah. Yeah. Also like, at some point, I could see it shifting.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially as, you know, you have. You've produced three short films, two of which you wrote, one of which you directed, one got into Sundance, and you. You are. You write a lot for people, for people who don't know. You're a. You're an avid reader. You read so much. It's embarrassing to me how much you read and how little. And less and less I read as I go on. But you also have started as, like, as a lot of us, when it's like, oh, I'm not getting maybe some of the opportunities that I want. You started writing more and creating more and wanting to tell your stories. You have a movie that you've written, co wrote with Jody. Our friend Jody Balfour.

[C]

Jody Balfour.

[B]

And you guys are going to co direct it. I've been cast in it.

[C]

Beck has.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

We've made him audition and hopefully so

[B]

many times, but through my entire life, my. Our entire relationship.

[A]

That's cool.

[B]

Yeah, it's cool, but we don't have to get into that.

[C]

But it's not your project.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

It is. It is exciting. Like, people. So many people know you for your acting work, and I can see all the projects you're working, and I'm very excited for people to see.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

More of that.

[C]

Thanks. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I mean, that also, like, talk about consuming, like, making your own stuff.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Is the most consuming thing. I feel like I'm actually often, like, fighting against being consumed by it even more.

[A]

Yeah. Where do I. Where do you stand?

[B]

Well, it's. It's like. I mean, if you're looking at what.

[C]

I don't know, you get pretty consumed.

[B]

I get consumed by what? Wait, sorry.

[C]

You just work.

[B]

It's work. Yeah, Yeah. I get consumed by work, and even if I'm not like, being effective with working, I get consumed by it sometimes. But you're asking how much of my work is comprised of acting?

[A]

No, no, no. How much of your life is, like,

[B]

oh, consumed by work.

[A]

Yeah. Or like, thinking about work?

[B]

Just work in general. Oh, a lot of it. And I'm trying to shift that.

[C]

Yeah. What's your number?

[A]

You think it's high, too, in a way that, like. Yeah, I'm probably around where you are. I, I, for some reason, I feel like I, I feel like you're not as much. Like, I feel like you have more space for other things than I do. But maybe I'm wrong.

[B]

I mean, like, maybe like, even, like, on a daily basis. Like cooking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I love going to, like, being creative in that way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm. I'm trying to, you know, make more time to, like, do activities with Ruby, whether it's, like, art or, like, take him out to shows or play sports with him and, like, or, like, find ways for us to go on little trips, the two of us. Or with, you know, I'm like, I'm trying to find.

[A]

Yeah, it's unhealthy how consuming it is,

[B]

but it is, It's a survival thing because it's like, if there, if you have work or you have work set up, typically you'll have time in between to live your life. But when you don't have anything lined up or you're uncertain about your future financially, you're like, well, I got to be. If I'm not setting stuff up, then I'm going to be, you know, in a bad situation and a couple months, potentially.

[C]

So it's like, it's like it's feast or famine. So, like, when. When everything's like, whoa, no one's calling and I don't have anything going on, then you, like, self generate, and then those projects potentially get going, and then you, like, book another job or other things start happening, and then you're like, now I'm way too busy.

[B]

Or maybe it's because you were writing something and you met with somebody and you told them your idea. Like, oh, they're, you know, we're here to talk about what our podcast should be about.

[C]

Oh, what your podcast should be about?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because I don't know when, when you heard about this podcast, in fact, told you the idea, the premise of it, but it was like, the idea is.

[C]

Yeah. My publicist called me. She's. She said, I think, like, don't we

[A]

don't know what our podcast.

[C]

You don't know what it's about.

[A]

The host comes in and then.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You say that you listen to almost every episode.

[C]

I do.

[B]

Oh, that feels like a lot.

[C]

I do. I'm actually a huge fan of the pod.

[B]

She's a huge fan.

[C]

I basically haven't missed an episode.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

You always say amazing. You say nice things all the time. And you really are a legend, Jesse,

[B]

and you're a legend.

[C]

I love it.

[A]

And we can't wait. I've been telling. We can't wait to hear what your ideas.

[B]

Okay, lay down, sister.

[C]

Okay, here's my idea.

[A]

Jack O Lanterns. Please be Jack O Lantern.

[C]

How did you know I was going to say that? Houses.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Because I know I like houses. I know Beck likes houses.

[B]

I like houses.

[C]

You have a spectacular house. I love your house. But I was thinking about childhood houses. I don't know what your childhood house looked like. And then I was thinking about all the houses that we've seen each other through. I met you guys. You lived in a house.

[B]

Yes. We've already talked about it.

[C]

I remember that house very well. And then where you and Dave lived next is also, like, very memorable. And then Beck and I moved into our first spot together, and then we all moved to New York.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

And those houses I remember so well. And then we bought our first homes. And we've also lived in your home when you let us so kindly.

[A]

We still have Ruby's ball.

[B]

Oh, yes. That week. Yes, the week. Yes.

[C]

Ruby got a thing called viral diarrhea in your house.

[B]

And I'm sure there's none left. I'm sure there's none left.

[C]

We cleaned up.

[B]

We cleaned up real good. All right, well, let's talk about houses. We'll be right back with houses.

[A]

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Yes, this is. Oh, I thought we were Starting. How's it going, Kyle?

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House. Do I say this? H I, home. You're having a good day?

[B]

I housed. I housed that. I House. I you home. I'm having a good day. Well, how's about this? I am.

[A]

As long as you make room for me, I'm housie.

[C]

I better join this conversation, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Bed. Bedder. I bedder.

[A]

Ladies and. Ladies and gentlemen, Jesse Hodges. It's our guest. Jesse Hodges is in the house.

[C]

I have been dying to. Come on, Houses.

[A]

We have been dying.

[B]

That's something that Kyle's been doing his whole life. Come on, Houses.

[C]

Come on, Houses.

[B]

Sorry about that.

[A]

I come on one house, and it was legal, by the way. The person said anyone. It was a situation where a lot of people were asked to come on the house.

[B]

I didn't say you coming on the house was illegal.

[C]

No judgment here, brother.

[B]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't guessed already, we're here with Houses, our podcast. Houses. That's what it's all about. You told us Houses. It was a podcast. That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle. Oh, and our guest, the incomparable Jessica Hodges. Jessica. Jesse. Jess Hodges.

[C]

Hello.

[A]

And why do I get the feeling you two know each other?

[B]

Well, we've shared a couple houses together.

[A]

We have?

[B]

Yes, we have. How many houses have we shared together?

[C]

We have shared. We're talking.

[B]

And we're talking Homes. Houses.

[A]

Okay, don't be yelling.

[C]

Yeah, Kyle, I just want to be really clear about what I'm talking about.

[B]

Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid of my wife.

[C]

We had Perlita. We had.

[B]

That was our first one.

[A]

That was Echo Park.

[C]

Atwater.

[B]

Atwater. That was. It was across from Party City.

[A]

Yes. Yeah.

[C]

Next to the car wash. That was

[A]

like, what, a year? Two years.

[B]

That was. Well, we had for two years, but it was the first time we lived together. It was awesome. And then I started making tapes for SNL in that place we left.

[C]

With me behind the camera.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Doing nothing. Just pressing the button.

[B]

Oh, you're giving me notes. You were giving me notes. It was very helpful. We were there. And then we moved to New York, which. We had the same apartment for eight years.

[A]

And now. Now. Now. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Are we. Where do apartments fall in this?

[C]

Their house.

[B]

Their house.

[A]

Is that true?

[B]

No, I mean, they're a home. Like, I mean, you know, it's.

[C]

I should have said homes. Okay, should we do the whole intro?

[A]

No, no. This is Home. This is Our podcast. I should sort of know what our definitions and I forgot for a moment.

[B]

Okay. Yes, but house homes.

[C]

Yes, House homes.

[A]

Eldridge, your apartment in New York City. I wonder if that is the home of yours that I've spent the most time in. Probably.

[B]

Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. I mean, we would have our super bowl parties there. Yeah.

[C]

Except the home that you lived in together.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, yes. Which was McCollum. McCollum. I always said McCollum, but it's McCollum.

[A]

It sounds like you're saying the same thing to me.

[B]

I pronounce the. It's mc.

[A]

Sounds like one of your. Or your experimental theater acting.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Kyle, you've done it again. Sir,

[A]

we salute you. And then, of course, I. I came on the house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I was allowed to, like, I

[B]

don't know, actually don't want to go down.

[A]

It was a group of people. It was like. You wouldn't call it an orange. Yeah, I don't exactly know what you'd call was our website.

[B]

And this guy was like, I'm as many people can come on my house as possible. And it was like. Bunch of you guys got together. Everybody was coming on the house.

[C]

This why I brought it up. This is. Was the idea.

[A]

And I barely knew anybody. I did make one very close friend. You know my friend Brandon Charles. Yeah.

[B]

Cuz you guys. Cuz you guys were. You guys helped each other. You guys were feeling a little. It was like, I don't. How do you. How do you come.

[A]

He was. We. We started and like, he. He kind of. Weirdly enough, we both were into like underground hip hop in high school and stuff like that. And now Brandon Charles was visiting, but he lives in LA now, which is cool. He's got a house. But. Sorry.

[B]

Okay. Eldridge. We lived in McCollum and then Eldridge. And then what? And then we moved in. We had Baxter at the same time.

[A]

Yes. Iconic.

[C]

Don't say the name of the street.

[A]

We currently live.

[B]

We live in Los Angeles at a new house, by the way.

[A]

By the way, you guys have a great address.

[C]

We do. We have kind of an iconic.

[B]

Kind of iconic. Now, Kyle, you've. You've lived in house homes too. Yeah. You don't just come on them.

[A]

You.

[B]

You live in them too.

[A]

Yeah, well, there was. Yeah, yeah. And. But I want to go into all these houses because I feel that you guys just spoke about it. I won't just want to list them.

[B]

We got.

[A]

We got to talk some memories. But yeah, I can go. I can go through. We can jump to me, if you want to. Okay. I just. Let's do first memories that come to mind at each place you've mentioned so far. Okay. The Atwater Village spot. My first memory is what I was talking about earlier. Hello, ladies. I remember reading a scene with you there, and you gave me a little help before I went in to shoot.

[B]

And I vaguely remember that.

[A]

Incidentally, this kind of all ties together. You had told me you were putting together your SNL tape.

[B]

Really?

[A]

And I remember that was sort of like a. I. I had specific feelings about that because I had auditioned for

[B]

the show, you had tested the year

[A]

prior, and I wasn't planning on making a tape.

[B]

Yeah. For. Because if you had tested, all of

[A]

a sudden I'm thinking, oh, wow, Becky is making the run for snl. Kind of.

[B]

I never realized that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, oh, maybe I'm. I didn't get it. Maybe he's gonna get it. And we were maybe at that time working on the Comedy Central thing.

[C]

Definitely.

[A]

Yeah. That was. That was. Yeah. It would have been summer or spring 2013.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But.

[A]

Okay, so that's my number one memory.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't think I went to that place that many times.

[C]

I don't think so. Because we weren't there that long because of snl.

[B]

Yeah. Do you have a number one memory from that place?

[C]

Shooting your SNL tape in that room? And we would have to pause when the car wash started spraying.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because we were. We lived next to a car wash. And it would be like. It was like the car would hit a certain point when it got really loud, and we'd have to pause, and Beck would have to pause, like, Alan Alda. Like, whatever impression he was giving him.

[A]

Alan in, like, a coat or top.

[C]

Like. Well, you had, like, a scarf for one of them.

[B]

I don't know. Yeah. Okay, so that was annoying. I feel like my. One of my best memories was, I think, when my family came to visit and we had a dinner and we had, like, a dance party, and it was really fun.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Baxter.

[C]

We skip McCollum.

[A]

Well, I. I.

[C]

Okay, we're doing ours.

[A]

We'll go back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Baxter. I'm gonna say, I. You guys let me stay there once when you weren't there, and I stayed there with my brother Ryan.

[C]

And let me guess, you came on the house.

[A]

Yeah, I said, I only did that one time. And it was a professional setting. Those videotapes. Don't laugh. Don't laugh.

[B]

Well, it was. I mean, it's just funny. When you think about it, that it was professional.

[A]

One of my best friends.

[C]

Let him speak.

[B]

We know about Brandon Charles each. Yes.

[A]

That's a pretty good deal. Like, to be. I mean, for. Yeah. For a guy who's like, well, it doesn't matter. My favorite memory.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I stayed at Baxter and went to Coachella together. But it was a nice. It was just nice to be able to have a house to stay at in. In Los Angeles because. Yeah. I didn't have a place in la.

[B]

And then you. Shortly thereafter, maybe got your house.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So maybe that's what it was.

[C]

Wait, maybe before. No. When did you.

[A]

Summer of 2019. Oh.

[C]

Oh, okay. Way after.

[B]

So wait, wait. I'm sorry. Where. We were talking about Baxter Memories.

[C]

Memory from Baxter, the rat infestation.

[B]

Yes. Jesse was the rat queen of Echo Park. We had so many rats in that house. In. In Elysian Park. There's, like, this little. It's a little valley in Echo park. And there's so. There was so much wildlife.

[A]

It's like, so much wildlife.

[B]

Raccoons, coyotes in our backyard. Tons of rats.

[C]

Hundreds of rats.

[B]

Hundreds of rats. She killed hundreds of rats.

[A]

What?

[B]

How?

[C]

With traps.

[A]

Cool. We're using, like, peanut butter or cheese or anything. Both.

[B]

We like.

[A]

We. We so cute. That, like, rats and mice, like. Like cheese.

[C]

I know.

[B]

You just want to get a little bit of cheese.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Broken neck. See ya. You have to pick these things up. You could smell it upstairs.

[C]

And so disgusting. We were killing so many that I was reusing traps, just, like, throwing them out, putting on gloves, opening the trap, disposing of the body and setting it again.

[B]

We like, that's. I mean, we did, like, inspections of our house, but, like, I feel like. But at one point, we, like, stood on the counter and looked above the cabinets, just full rat's nest. Like, literal, like. And then we. Like that.

[A]

I heard that death. Because, like, I do. We do. We have rat stuff happen at our place. And like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sucks.

[B]

I don't know. Maybe at the time, I was like, the house is good.

[C]

You got. Well, you guys were like, in SNL land. And I was dealing with it on my own.

[B]

I. I fully realized the. The height of it. But we would have, like, people sleep over, and they'd be like, I heard the rats in the walls last night. Okay. That was yours. My memory. What is my biggest memory?

[C]

We also brought our son.

[B]

That's what I was thinking. It was probably.

[C]

We really took care of the rat situation.

[B]

I think when I. I think of. It'd Be like just kind of like being in bed and cooking you food and bringing you food. Well, yeah.

[A]

That was also the house that was featured in SNL at home.

[B]

Yes, it was.

[A]

And you fall into the pool.

[B]

Yes, I fall into the pool. And yes. And Jesse also directed the architectural design.

[C]

Direct.

[B]

Yeah, you directed it. You. I was like, there are two. I feel like there are two versions of this. One was wackier. Or maybe you fully had the idea to just go the other direction.

[C]

Yeah, you were doing wacky. And I was like, you just like, really genuinely take us on a tour of the house and we don't clean it up at all.

[B]

Yeah. And I was like, all right, let's try it. And it was funny and it worked

[C]

because also it was like Covid. So everyone was doing weird. There were like weird puzzles out. We had a. I had a calendar out of like counting down the days until it became like, oh, this is not going to be like a day's thing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. So, so gnarly. Okay. And then. And then memory for Eldridge in New York.

[C]

I mean, the super bowl parties are pretty memorable.

[B]

Those were so fun. I don't know if we. Have.

[C]

We talked about it, I think.

[B]

Yeah, you missed a bunch. But have we talked about it on the podcast?

[A]

I don't know that we maybe mentioned them. I just sort of know.

[B]

We used to have these super bowl parties. It was. I hosted them because I had a bigger place. And we started doing our second year and we would like do squares and we would like bet on. There were drinking games for commercials for like, you know, any. Any point during the game. But it was really commercials and halftime. We would like, you could bet in New York. So we placed a bet on like the bookies. Yeah, the bookies. Like the national anthem length. And like, we. We thought we won. There was that year. But it was like, we bet.

[A]

We put in like whatever all of us put in cash. That is gonna be a minute and a half. And she ended. She. And the home of the Brave ended at like a minute 15. But then she went. And we're like, ah. But then she goes. And the br.

[B]

She like

[A]

it hit the 130 mark and we're like, yeah. And we got.

[B]

So we were jump.

[A]

We were going to be so rich. And then like, whoever was in contact with the bookie, the book was like, nah, it ends after the first. And the Brave.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That is. What she added was not a part of the song. Like, that was her own version that

[C]

So I know what.

[B]

Yeah. And then I would. It's not right. I would also make cheeseburgers, sliders.

[A]

Sliders make a lot of food.

[B]

It was a blast.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

You guys made it really fun.

[B]

I think my. The thing that stands out, the singular memory, is when I finished snl, I came home to, like, the apartment flooded with balloons and congratulations and, like, a sign and, like, streamers, like, all up from Jesse.

[A]

Oh, that's very sweet.

[B]

It was very sweet. It was a very.

[C]

Painting me as such a nice guy today.

[B]

Yeah, you are a pretty nice guy.

[C]

Appreciate it.

[A]

He's been talking about this. He's been excited. I'll say. I'll. Okay, I'll say my memory. But also, we should. I feel like maybe I took us down the wrong road by just doing elaborate memories of every house that's connected. But they can't say Super Bowl. We watched the movie the Love Guru, and that scene where Verne Troyer, like,

[B]

it's still on my Instagram.

[A]

He. What does he do? He, like, spits out a tooth and, like, farts at the same time.

[B]

Yeah, he spits. He spits into a spit bucket. He, like. Yeah, and he farts and he, like. Here, maybe we could. Can we play it?

[C]

I would love to see it on the.

[B]

On the podcast.

[A]

At the very least, maybe we can put it right here for folks watching.

[B]

Yeah. And now I do. We'll just pause for a second. I do have another question about houses. Wait, here it is. It's going to be right here. It's coming up right here, folks. Just hold on. Just. You got it. You got to be a little patient. Here it is. Video has no sound.

[A]

Maybe you got.

[B]

Since when? Oh, maybe I did get.

[A]

You got docked.

[B]

I got. Yeah.

[A]

Copyright.

[B]

Copyright.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Oh, God. Is that.

[B]

Yeah, it's just. It's really good. Anyway, they took away the sound. Okay.

[A]

I gotta say, house parties, to me, are unbeatable. I love a house party.

[B]

Yeah, I do, too. I mean, when I love how we met.

[C]

I think part of bringing this to you guys is like, I think there's something about you two that is houses to me, because McCollum was so classic classique. And then you guys had so many house parties. Yeah, there's just, like. There's a home.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't think I'd ever heard anyone say kick it before.

[B]

A kickback.

[C]

A kickback.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

It's very, like, West Coast.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[C]

In New York, we were not hanging out at people's houses.

[A]

Really? No.

[C]

Because no one Had.

[B]

Yeah, you go out. You go to bars and stuff. But it is interesting. Like, we did the move together. Move there and back.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, we all knew each other's homes before we went. And then we established these new places in New York and then came back here and. Yeah. So it's like. It's. That's. That is a unique thing. Like, we have friends that have been a part of both of those. But no, we did that together. You know, that back and forth. It is interesting. Now, we were talking about. In the. Getting into this, about homes growing up.

[C]

Can you.

[B]

Would you care to describe, like, your home growing up?

[C]

Yeah, my. So I lived in this, like, I lived in, like, a bungalow, basically. Like a really sweet old bungalow in an old neighborhood. And my bedroom was in the attic. And it was like that. A frame. Like, it was like a attic.

[B]

Bedroom is so cool.

[C]

It was so cool. And I have really, like, strong memories of being. Cause it was also a little scary. It was kind of long and big. And I remember, like, seeing shadows that I thought were real when I was trying to go to sleep at night. It was just cool. And then when I was, I think, in fifth grade, a little bit before we moved to, like, a new build, it wasn't like a McMansion. Cause it was not a mansion, but it was, like, kind of McMansion y. Y. And it, like. I was like, are we rich now or like, what's happening? And it was so. It felt, like, really cool. And now I. And I feel like my parents never really, like, fully decorated. Like, it was just, like, decorated enough. Yeah, because they didn't. It was a big upgrade for them.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But it was a really, really fun house. But it didn't have the same level of, like, character. And we fully used it just for performances. It was, like, big, and there was like a kind of an echoey room. And we would just perform for each other.

[A]

That's very, very sweet.

[B]

That's very sweet. None of us have access to our childhood homes, do we?

[C]

No. Kyle, what was yours like?

[A]

It was. I had. So there's one home we lived in till I was probably, like, four or five that I have very vague memories of. And then we moved literally up the street. And I lived in that house up until I was 18, though, when my parents split. My dad got a condo probably when I was in, like, sixth grade, so. And that was probably, I don't know, a mile or two away from the house. But the house was cool. We had a pool.

[B]

That's sick. I Forgot that.

[C]

That.

[A]

Yeah. You. I wonder if you ever went there.

[B]

I don't think so. I went to your. I went to your mom's house.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that was it.

[B]

That was it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That had a pool. Yeah, but.

[A]

But like, it wasn't. It probably wasn't. It was probably disheveled.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or like.

[B]

Yeah, so I did go. That was a cool house.

[A]

Disheveled, with that kind of pool. Be disheveled.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then I went to your dad's. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Place and then.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I guess my dad got a. Moved into a house probably my senior year. But the condo was sort of. I mean, I love the home that I grew up in. I'm trying to think of any specific memories of it.

[C]

Did you and your brothers. Did anyone share a room?

[A]

Nope. We all had our own rooms and we had like, what we called the rec room where you could play, you

[C]

know, video games because you guys didn't have basements, right?

[A]

Correct. Yeah.

[C]

See, that's crazy.

[B]

Yeah, the basement was huge. Now I feel like people have converted garages in. In la.

[C]

In la. But like, we are. We are from basement.

[B]

We're basement people. Yeah.

[C]

Basements was where bad things happen.

[A]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, that's what I was gonna say at the. The condo. Like, and I'm not trying to show. Throw my father under the bus, but like, you know, he would go out of town and so like, that's sort of. Oh, yeah, we all were of age where like, that's sort of where the trouble. Trouble went. Trouble happened. You know what I mean? It's like smoke a little wee, you know. And from what I've heard, I believe the stat is that all three of the Mooney boys lost their virginity in the condo.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

That is. That is legendary, dude.

[C]

Yeah, that's really funny.

[B]

So, like, wow, your dad. Your parents got divorced, your dad got a condo. It was like time to lose our virginity. Let's go to the condo.

[A]

Also, he had. He had a.

[B]

Let's go to the condo and get it.

[A]

I had my turntables. I had my turntable set up there, so that was kind of tight.

[B]

Oh, that's. That's how you lost your virginity.

[A]

But there was. I have one very specific instant in my head. I guess I have two. I guess I was sort of kind of quasi caught masturbating in both the big house.

[B]

That's amazing.

[C]

And the condo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And did they by your parents. Was there a conversation or was it kind of.

[A]

Yeah, you've definitely heard the story of my mom catching.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah, it was that. This is so bad.

[C]

I don't know if I've heard.

[B]

You don't. If you're comfortable with it being out there, you can tell.

[A]

Well, my mother, God rest her soul, I think I, I, I said it. I said it in her presence at Sad Night Live during a sure. Monologue or something like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Essentially what happened was we had, I don't know, Cinemax and HBO or something, you know, and like, you know, a. After midnight or whatever, they start showing skin. Provocative material.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Beverly Hills Bordello, Hot Springs Hotel. Emmanuel in space.

[B]

Emanuel in space. Of course, we all know the title.

[A]

This is so. I can't believe I'm putting this, like, on record. Record. But I did say this on tv.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My mother was a very deep sleeper.

[C]

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me about the woman. I know.

[A]

And she was on the couch asleep, Kyle, with a blanket over. And I was on the big chair and I was like, sort of, like, trying to get a sense of, like, how, you know, what I could get away with in this moment. And I changed the channel and went to Cinemax and there was this sort of beautifully shot scene of two women, nude, making out in a shower. Oh, my God. And well, to be fully forward, I grab my erected penis.

[C]

Oh, my God, your mom's asleep.

[A]

I had a blanket over me. I had a blanket over me.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Oh, I had a blanket over me.

[C]

That's important.

[A]

And yeah, so, like, you're essentially like. You see a blanket, you know, bouncing up and down, and my mom goes, kyle. And like, I was like, oh, no.

[B]

Oh, no, I didn't. And then, like, how, and then did you walk out of the room?

[A]

Did you, like, quickly change the channel? And then she just went, like, went fast out. Just immediately fell back asleep. And it was just something we never spoke of.

[C]

Oh, my God. To wake up to your son.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Doing that.

[B]

What an amazing sight.

[A]

But, yeah, that was one of my best memories.

[B]

That's your best memories? Well, I mean, houses. Houses are homes. And, and so our apartments and, and we. Condos and condos. Yeah. Did you call it the condom? No, I'm just kidding. Because the Virginia.

[A]

I definitely use one when I, When I.

[B]

Good, that's good.

[C]

That's good.

[B]

No, but home is where the heart is. And home is a house sometimes or an apartment and.

[C]

But do you have such. I have such, like, visceral memories of my friends houses too.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Like.

[A]

Well, you know, also, like, it's like such a this up thing of, you know, this, this kid's parents are doing better than my. You know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They're not doing it so well. It's like this weird like, I don't know, measuring stick that you like as like a 7 year old you're sort of trying to understand on a lot.

[B]

For me it was all snacks. It was like that, that, that. That mom is down to get like craft singles and stuff. We're all going over there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But also at the same time, like absolutely what you just said like sort of taking stock. But then the. The other. The things that I was just like going like. And. Yep, that's the way BB's house is. It's always 55 degrees in the middle of winter and like there are 19 cats here. Just the like very specific things that I didn't question at all.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And smells.

[B]

Smells.

[A]

Yeah. Oh man. And what about. Sorry, go ahead.

[C]

It. Well, people's dads in the 90s would like have kind of like Playboy in, bathrooms out.

[B]

I don't know what. That's all I can think of.

[C]

Multiple houses where that was a thing I did not.

[B]

That was never. Never.

[C]

Or maybe like what's like one less racy than Maxim.

[B]

Maxim. That was like.

[C]

No, but that was just like a

[A]

Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition.

[C]

Yeah, keep going.

[B]

Boobers.

[A]

Boobers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was a kind of a casual videotapes tape cassette. Audio cassettes. Now what about houses where no.

[B]

Hey, we gotta wrap it up. I. Unfortunately we do. We have to pick up our son. We're going long.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

It's 4:20. Time to smoke.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because we have to do a little outro.

[A]

Okay. Well, house is a roof, walls and

[B]

it has a bed and a toilet.

[A]

And thanks for watching. Thanks for listening and watching Houses.

[B]

Thanks for making this your house for the day.

[A]

Wow, guys.

[B]

Wow. Houses. We've shared so many house memories and

[A]

that we could go. The thing is that that could have been the whole. That could have been all. We could have done that. That.

[C]

I know you could.

[A]

That thing.

[C]

I know exactly what you mean.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Exactly. I do think. I do think that that was. Maybe it's because we've shared so many memories with houses, but I think that could be a great podcast.

[A]

Yeah, consider it. I do feel like you've maybe pitched once house parties.

[B]

One of us did as a potential topic.

[C]

I think Skyler did.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

Oh yeah. Yeah, he did.

[C]

I'm a fan.

[B]

I'm a Rocco.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I can't believe you remembered Morocco at heart. Well, thank you so much for bringing us that idea. It was really great talking about houses together.

[C]

Thank you so much for having me. This is my favorite favorite.

[A]

I would love to have you anytime. Yes.

[B]

Will you come back?

[C]

I want to come back.

[B]

Will you come back?

[C]

Yes. And.

[B]

Oh, you know, it would be fun. I don't know why. Because I feel like we said the same thing to Darcy. She's having a bunch of friends on all at once.

[C]

Yeah. Might as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean.

[C]

Caitlyn Shiel, while we're at it.

[B]

Caitlyn Shiel.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Speaking of. You didn't know her name was Jessica for a while. I didn't know Caitlyn's name was Caitlyn. Was two separate names. I thought it was Caitlyn. Chill. And then you would call.

[A]

You thought her name was Caitlyn.

[B]

Yeah, because we call her Kate and sometimes you would call her Caitlin.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And I was like, original. I've never known someone who is a Kate Lynn. I've only known Caitlyn.

[A]

Yeah. There's a story, but that's.

[B]

That's for another podcast.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

We have to.

[A]

How do you. Can I. This was awesome. I felt a little nervous because I want to make sure that you got your due.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And like, it's sort of, like, difficult sometimes to do it with the people that you're closest to.

[B]

I bet. I mean, I brought. Yeah.

[A]

I think it was great just to say it.

[B]

It was great.

[A]

And I hope you.

[B]

So fun.

[C]

I feel great. I feel empathy for. I. I feel like there's pressure on you guys because it's me, but there shouldn't be. And I thought you were great.

[B]

Great.

[C]

Well, good. I hope people like it.

[B]

I hope people do, too.

[C]

But I'm just so happy to be here.

[B]

So lucky to have you here. Very excited about. Maximum pleasure guaranteed.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Go watch it and we'll. We'll have you back sometime soon.

[A]

And patreon.com what's our podcast is where you can find exclusive bonus content that Beck and I make, including our exclusive sillies, which are silly little videos we make.

[B]

They're getting sillier and sillier. And we're also experimenting with all new forms of content. I had. I have a new idea and we'll see where it goes. Maybe you'll hear about it later.

[A]

And I had some ideas, too, that

[B]

I pitched the other day, and I love them. And babe, I love you.

[C]

I love you.

[B]

We'll see you at home. Dinner.

[C]

We love you, too.

[B]

And you're welcome for dinner anytime at our home or house.

[A]

I love it. And Jesse Hodges, you are incredible.

[B]

We Stan Jesse Hodges. Love you Queen.

[C]

Love you Queen.

[A]

See you next time in the Bat Cave.

[B]

What's up Podcast?

[C]

What should we talk about?

[A]

What's Our podcast is a Headgun podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.

[B]

The show is produced and engineered by Richelle Chen and Anya Kanovskaya with production support from Ali Khan and Ryan Lutzow.

[A]

Our executive producer is Anya Kanefskaya. Katie Moose is our VP of content at Headgum. Our theme music is made by us.

[B]

For more podcasts by headgum, visit headgum.com or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[C]

Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[B]

Sterling K. Brown. And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that Was Us now on Headgum.

[C]

Each episode we're gonna go into a

[A]

deep dive from our show.

[C]

This is us.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[B]

Are we gonna cry? Yes, a little bit. Are we gonna laugh a lot? A whole lot. That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to. That was us on your favorite podcast. Episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.