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That was somebody scooping them up fast.
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Don't do the scoop thing. Uncommon Goods looks for products that are high quality, unique, and often handmade or. Or made in the U.S. many are. I don't want to that I don't like either.
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And for people who can't see, I'm do. I'm. I'm doing. I'm hand making a little gift.
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Okay. I guess I do kind of like it.
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It's for you. Why?
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Okay.
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What's our podcast? What's it gonna be all about? Tell us what's our podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? Welcome. Welcome to Beck's Hot Pockets of Trash.
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Look at these. I got little tide pen pools.
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I can't really see. Oh, I see. Oh, yeah. Oof. Looks like something happened in your pants. Looks like something came out of the old weane doggy.
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Well, here's actually what happened.
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Here's actually leakage.
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Here's actually what happened. I took off my jeans, I started masturbating and I masturbated onto my jeans. Onto my jeans.
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Your jeans?
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Onto my jeans.
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I didn't know they were called jeans. I thought they were called jeans. I didn't mean to say jeans.
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I meant to say jeans.
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You said jeans.
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And so then I came all over my jeans. I wasn't wearing them. And now I put them back on and I said, well, I Have cum stains on my jeans.
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Yeah.
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And that's why you were on the text thread. I texted and I said, I'm going to need a tide.
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I think you said, can we source a tide pen?
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Yes.
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Like, using set language. Like, copy that and stuff. Like, like, we're not. This isn't a set. This is a podcast studio. Okay.
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This is not a set. Interesting.
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No, this is a set.
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I feel like our producers have put in a ton of work to do.
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Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, this is a set.
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But the good news is I've cleaned all of the cum off of my jeans and I'm ready to start the podcast. Should we start rolling?
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Yeah, I think we should start.
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Wait, there actually might be a little.
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A little. Come on. The jeans.
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Here's the.
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Here's. We were just talking about cream jeans yesterday.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And now here we are. You're sitting in your cream jeans on the show.
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I feel like there's, like, a slogan or a song. My cream jeans.
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I got my cream jeans and I'm ready to go. And the podcast studio. I got my cream jeans and I'm ready to go. I'm at the podcast studio. Yo. Hi. Hey. We got guests and things coming on. Hey, hey, hey. I'm creaming my jeans. That's a little blue. Yes, they are blue.
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They're my blue cream jeans.
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It's a great song.
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Here's my. Here's my issue. Okay, okay. It's time for Kyle's gripes.
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Yeah.
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I've got something to say.
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Dude, that's crazy. On the way here, I was thinking, like, what could I. What could I ask Kyle? And I thought of asking you, what's your number one pet peeve?
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Well, this is not. I don't know. This is my number one pet peeve.
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Lay it on us.
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Oh, I do actually have a recent pet peeve. I'm gonna go off topic here. If I get into that, can I go to what I was gonna say?
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Yeah.
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Not really a gripe. It's more just my. An issue I have. Like, I don't. If I get a little stain on my clothing, like, it affects me, and I need to get over that.
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Yeah, I mean, I, I. I have a problem with that too, though. I get a lot of oil stains.
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Yeah, I think that's. I think this was, like, the juices from, like, a El Pastor Carnitas taco. I had maybe even a little salsa.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that's frustrating for me. Like, it's. It's really in the T shirts. I'll just get a little splash of oil, like. Yeah. And it's like, you're done.
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It's almost like I never want to wear that T shirt again.
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That's kind of how I feel. I'm trying to. I've said this on a podcast before that I'm trying to work on my stain game. I would love to, like, if a stain happens, I know exactly what to do. I know how to get it out, but it's always a troubleshooting issue.
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Yeah.
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And then I just kind of don't deal with it. I kind of go, like, I'm going to, like, put some baking soda and dawn on that later and run through the cycle, etc. But I rarely do it. Yeah. Because there's so many.
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And I feel like if you said it on another podcast, don't waste our time with this podcast.
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Well, no, but I'm trying to say it on more podcasts.
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Okay.
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Trying to talk about my stain game.
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I got my cream jeans. I'm a stain game.
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In the membrane. It's good to be back on the podcast.
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Okay, here's my gripe. Yeah, here's. Okay. I was saving this for something, and I guess this. This is our platform. This. This is a major issue, folks. This is a problem that we are dealing with. Everybody is.
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We're.
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We've. We've, like, I guess accepted it. We need a change. This is something that is not right.
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Okay. Let. Let on us a hotel. A hotel.
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I'm not there yet.
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Okay. Thought your gripe was a hotel.
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The hotel experience.
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Okay.
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Having to use your key card to operate the elevator.
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Yeah.
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That. We got to do away with that, really.
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But then anybody can come up into the elevator.
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What are people doing in the hotel? Because here's the deal. Sometimes these key cards don't really work. So you're just swiping and swiping and trying to figure it out. Or like, you got multiple people in the elevator. What.
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What.
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What floor are you for? Oh, I got three.
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It only allows me to get one button.
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You need to. I need to, like, hit it again to get another button.
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Yeah.
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What is the. You think. You think people are. Here are the things that people could be doing. They could be, I guess, walking into the elevators and, like, going to the pool or gym off the street or something like that.
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Or going to get you in your room.
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Yeah. But typically those doors lock.
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Yeah. Yeah, sure.
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I don't think that. That I Don't think that that is. I don't believe that that's enough of a problem to necessitate this technology that.
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Is.
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In my opinion, lackluster and inconsistent. And.
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I hear that. I do think though, if you ask, if you ask enough people, they're going to be like, I prefer the security of.
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Well, let's take a poll right now.
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Yeah, let's take a poll of our producers, Anya and Casey. What would you rather have the convenience of anybody? Like, you don't have to use your key to get to your floor. Or the security of knowing that only people with keys can go up in the elevator.
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May I add an addendum to that? Or you can tell me that I don't. But it's like the way you say that. I'm. I'm with you. But the thing is, it's not as easy as that. Do you know what I mean? Like, if it was. If you're saying like every time you use this key card it's gonna get you up to your room in an easy way, then like, I could maybe be on your side. But the fact that there's, I think more than not a struggle to do it.
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I. The last hotel I was staying at, I thought it was, it was kind of annoying, but it worked. Like you had to like hold it there and press the floor. You couldn't like hold it there and then like find the, like, it was a little annoying, but once you got the hang of it, it was okay. Can I ask you where you were or is that.
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I've been on tour. I've been. I've been staying at a few hotel room. In a few hotel rooms.
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Okay. So this is, so this is not, and this is not a high end place. This is a medium middle.
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That's true. I'm not staying at like, you know, four star hotels.
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Yeah. Or five star hotels.
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Yeah, sure. Yeah, I wish.
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Yeah. Yeah, right. More like a. More like a one star hotel. Do they even advertise that? Do they.
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So your point is that like I.
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Like if you stay something somewhere nicer and the problem would be solved.
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Okay, well, well, let's open up the court. Let's.
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Let's open up the court.
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Have you have your court experiences in a hotel room or a hotel elevator?
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Yeah, I kind of. I think I'm more on Kyle's side. I think the idea of the safety is good, but I feel like more often than not it doesn't work. I'm in an elevator with other guests and they can't get it to work. Yeah, yeah. And then they miss their floor. And then I'm like, well, I'm already at my floor. Good luck to you.
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You're having an interaction that you didn't ask for.
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Right.
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Not, not saying that we don't want to interact with people, but Anya, where. How do you. Where do you fall?
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Okay, I want to say I want to be the kind of. I don't want to be the kind of person that's like in the mass hysteria of, like, women getting, you know, in parking lots, are afraid of, like, every person that approaches them. I do not want to buy into that.
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Yes, Fair.
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When I'm traveling alone, the ride up to my room at night is always. Okay.
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Yeah. I'm thinking, I'm thinking about the women here. I'm the only man who's thinking about the women.
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Like, how much does that really protect me? Like, probably, like anything could happen at any time.
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Okay.
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But that is something that crosses my mind.
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That's a very.
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Yeah, no, it's nice that, like, anyone I see on my floor, arguably, is staying at this hotel, which doesn't mean anything.
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Yeah, but that's a good point. Oftentimes if you're, if you're arriving late at night at the hotel, you're gonna have to use your key card to enter the hotel. Generally true.
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Yeah.
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Which would solve.
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Not at a fight, not at a five star.
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But they also are like. Right. So now they. But then there's those hotels where, like, there's stuff happening in the lobby.
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Sure. There's like a bar or like some sort of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair.
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And I, I'm sure, like, if we looked at it statistically, it like, does not affect women's safety whatsoever. You know what I mean? I'm sure that.
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No, no, that's a very fair. That's a very, very fair point. And I, I think this is a.
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I do agree with you that it is a huge problem. Like, I'm, I'm going to say. I'm going to say I'm just going to lean towards the safety of it. The security, the, like, you gotta, you got, you can't just. Not any. It's basically saying that no riff, no, just. No, just, just no random person can't come in here.
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Right.
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But it is.
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This is something for Rocco's to decide.
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I mean, I also will say when I'm in the elevator and I'm like, I know how to use that key to do it. Oh, my goodness, I'm making it happen. And I'm seeing people like Kyle fumbling, and I'm like, you fricking loser.
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Listen, I was in.
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You fricking huge.
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You are gonna find yourself in space where you're like, it's not working. It's not working. And then you're gonna have to walk all the way to the lobby and you're gonna say, I. I don't think my key is working. It's like, oh, no, sorry. You just have to hold. You have to press it down for 10 seconds and then hit the button. Like there's gonna be some specific way to do it. And you're here, you are thinking like, I am the master. I'm the genius of all the key cards. Some of the key cards are actually different. Some of the technology works different in different places.
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Yeah. And you troubleshoot. You figure it out. You kind of like, you work it. You make it happen.
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Okay, well, my other pitch is that we do a sort of Mr. Beast style game show.
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Mr.
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Beast. Yes. Like Beast Games, where we are. We go to different hotels and we are all. We are giving the. The key cards and we see key cards. We see how Beck does.
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Yeah, I would, I would love to participate in that. If any hotels out there, any hotel chains, think that they have good elevator technology and would like to test it on me or go head to head against any other elevators or any other hotels and their elevator technology reach out, we would love to set up the. What's our podcast? Hotel Elevator Challenge. This is to figure everything out and address the huge problem.
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Did you. Have you seen the hotels with like a. There's no person at the front and it's a virtual.
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That's what I hate more.
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That's very dark and bad.
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I don't think I've experienced that yet.
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It's only really.
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We've been going to nice hotels.
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Yeah.
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Of course. Vic's going to Hotel Franklin.
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I only stay at Hotel Franklin in Hotel Queen Bee and Hotel Ronnie Jackson.
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Mr. Bennett, your ironed cream jeans.
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Thank you, Frodrek.
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Absolutely. And here's your key card.
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Thank you, Frodrek. It' wet.
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Absolutely. I pissed on it.
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Oh, Frodrick.
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Okay.
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Yeah, that was a fun little scene.
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I felt like, here, here's the. Here's the new thing. I feel right now in this moment, like maybe I shouldn't have gone there. We have so much fun doing these little intros and we spent so much time talking about the key card.
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I know. It was like, what is this podcast even about?
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Yeah, what is our podcast?
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What is our podcast? Oh, we never told everybody.
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Hey, everybody, I'm Kyle Mooney.
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And I'm Beck Bennett.
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And this is what's our Podcast, where we try to figure out what our podcast should be about.
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Spoiler alert. We started a podcast. We don't know what it's about.
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Now we bring in a guest, and we have a very, very exciting guest today.
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Yes, we do.
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And they're gonna, by the way, pitch their idea for what they think our podcast should be about. Will it be stinky cheese or will.
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It be not stinky cheese?
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Let's hope it's the latter, because, boy. Oh, I do not need that in my nostril holes. Stanky. Cheers.
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No, I love this. I'm just. I'm just enjoying the. I'm just enjoying you today.
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This is classic. I wanted to bring this up on the podcast.
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Oh, yeah, bring it up right now.
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I was just gonna say I ran into Beck at breakfast.
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Oh, yeah, me and Kyle ran into each other. We were both with our wives.
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Yep. And I noticed you got the same potato crisp we got. Yeah, but they put your little creme fraiche on the side, and they put it on our potato crisp.
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Put ours in a little silver. Silver bucket.
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Silver.
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Your silver. Your silver bucket, Mr. Bennet.
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Yes. Well, you know, with Rodrick, I bring him everywhere, and he takes care of me.
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Absolutely, Mr. Bennet.
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He's always pissing on stuff.
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Your Lamborghini.
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Your Lamborghini must have been covered in this. It has. It's. It hasn't been raining today, Frederick.
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I was pissing all over it.
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It's hard to get good help these days.
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Absolutely.
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Well, our guest is here.
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Fantastic. Comedian, comedian, actor, artist.
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Yes. Cape Berlant. I wanted to say Katie Berlanti just for fun. That's not her name.
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That's okay.
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She. She's. I. She's a. She is a goddess, I would say. Is that okay to say?
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Why do we have to. Why do we have to make the.
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Word feminine God a goddess?
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I'm just curious.
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I mean, so you want to keep it masculine?
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I don't think. I think that God has no definition. So I don't exactly know what you're getting at. Is God a man? Is that masculine?
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I guess not, but it's implied.
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They had the creme fresh in the little middle bucket for us. It was on top of the potatoes.
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No, I take the goddess stuff. I don't know why I called Kate a goddess. She's a remarkable person, though. Let's bring her out.
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Kate Berlant.
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Okay. Kyle, look We've talked about dart before.
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Can't get him out of my head.
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I know you keep talking about him because you had such a good experience with them.
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They did my wedding and my 40th birthday party.
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I know you already told me that last time we talked about dart, but I love to hear about it.
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Okay.
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Yeah. And I. Look, the thing is.
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Well, then I'll take the record back and tell you again. Wedding music is typically corny and doesn't represent the client's personal musical taste. Whoa.
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That was amazing. You should record that.
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Well, we just did on our video camera.
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Perfect. If my memory serves me correctly, Dart works with actual musicians and artists, many of whom have their own productive careers or tour in bands you've heard of like Leon Bridges, Lome Tops and Anderson Pak. Is that right? Is that what you told me?
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Absolutely.
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Thanks.
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He's listening, folks.
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Yeah, now you know I'm listening. If I Also remember correctly, DJs use vinyl and are cool in the way that your peers would be, because of course your peers are going to be cool. Not a dated carnival cruise performer. I'm not friends with any of any carnival cruise performers, but I bet they're pretty cool and nice, but just not right for your wedding, for. And for booking an event. Because that's what. That's when you go to dart.
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They did, by the way. They did cocktail hour at my wedding.
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Oh, cocktail hour at your wedding. Dart is for people who actually like music, not for people who are like, have a vendetta against music and are trying to cancel it.
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I don't like that music.
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Dude, don't hire dart. It's not for you. But with 12 years in the business, so they got tons of experience. You know, you can count on dart, Kyle. You have this incredible personal experience. Dart did the cocktail hour at your wedding and they also did your 40th birthday party.
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You know, I was impressed by the knowledge that the DJs brought.
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I had a great.
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I felt comfortable.
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I felt comfortable, too, I gotta say.
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I like to dance.
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I like to move my body. I like to talk to music, too. I like to eat to music. I like to go to the bathroom and still be able to hear good music in the background. Can you imagine going to the bathroom at a party and you just can't hear anything.
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Oh, my gosh. I was thinking the other day about going to the bathroom and just how it's so classic.
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Yeah, it's something I do almost every day.
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Yep.
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And it's like. It's like if you're Going to be doing something every day. You might as well learn to love it.
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Yes.
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So.
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Because it can get boring. Here I go, here it goes again. The mechanics of your body.
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But if you learn to love it, then it's like, then you've never worked a day in your life.
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Yeah.
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Then it's like, oh, I'm looking forward to it now.
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Yeah. So, you know, look, Dart is an engine for fair wages and payment for musicians in the industry. Okay. They offer everything from a single DJ, that's one, one DJ to a 14 piece event band. Who could definitely place drums, I'm thinking.
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Yeah, we got drums. Okay, let's count them out. Drums, guitar, bass.
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Don't forget about the horns. Saxophone, Trumpet.
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Trumpet, Saxophone. We, we, we said guitar. Rhythm guitar.
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Don't forget, more cowbell.
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Piano.
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Yes.
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Somebody on the cowbell.
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And how many is that? Singers?
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How many singers?
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Three. At least a lead and at least two backups.
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11, 12. Then maybe need two more. And that would probably be banjo.
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Yeah. And maybe maybe a cello or a bass. Yeah.
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Okay, perfect.
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So, yeah, they have all that stuff with hubs in LA, San Francisco, Austin, NY and now Chicago. Dart can easily play all over the country and world and at your party or event. So why don't you dart over and get to dart? Do your balls stink? Tell us about a time you needed mando the most. Ooh. Okay, you.
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Sometimes when I go running my balls, really? They get sweaty and they stink.
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Yes. Every time I leave the house, my balls are stinking.
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Ooh, your balls stink.
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Oof. Yeah, that's, that's.
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Whoa. What's up with your balls? They stink.
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I forgot to use mando today. What can I say? Typically, before I leave the house, I'm putting that stuff all over.
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I was gonna say, yep, your balls are stinking up the place.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, like I said, I forgot to use mando. Yeah, get another whiff.
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Oh, man, they stink.
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I'm about to use mando. You wanna get one? I think it's my balls. Partly my penis too. A little bit of the taint. And don't forget the butthole's right around the corner.
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Let me give it one more.
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Yeah, get it really in there.
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Isn't that crazy? I was like, can't tell if it's something else, but I'm pretty sure it's.
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Probably a combination of all the deadly sins down there.
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Seven deadly sins.
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Yeah. Well, so that's what makes mando unique.
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And different from any other deodorant.
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It works.
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Could you use it on those stinky balls.
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Yes. And you could use it on your stinky knees, your stinky thighs, your stinky butt, your stinky belly button.
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Every belly button does stink.
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I always find you find stuff in your belly button.
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I do. Yeah.
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You find little balls. I remember strings you used to like, like to pull stuff out and be like, look at that, look at that. What I found there.
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True.
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Makes me think that you're not showering.
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I do shower, but sometimes I forget to clean out my belly.
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But I always forget to clean out my belly. So.
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I didn't know I could smell pro sport. I didn't know I could be smelling like bourbon leather. I think I'll be getting that right now.
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If you walked in here smelling like bourbon leather, I would fuck your brains out.
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Well then I better get, I better get ready because I think we're gonna have a really crazy session.
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I love imagining you walking here in the whiff of bourbon leather and I am walking you.
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Oh, kids are back in school.
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Yep, there they are.
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Hi.
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Yeah, thanks for the meals. You're. You seem like a snack yourself.
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That's inappropriate.
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Thanks for the Tempo Meals.
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Bye. No problem. What was that interaction? I mean, he seemed like a nice guy.
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I thought he wanted something from me. I thought he was going to be down.
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I don't know. I just wanted to bring his temperament. Tempo Meals.
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I'm glad I have my Tempo Meals at least.
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But there's something about him that's really unforgettable.
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I wonder if he's still standing there at the door. What do you. Wait, you're still here.
A
I thought about what you said.
B
Yeah.
A
I like you.
B
I like you. Do you want to share this Tempo meal with me?
A
Sure. What type of flavors is it?
B
It's the pulled pork with coconut rice and mixed veggies.
A
Yeah, I'd like that very much.
B
Wow. That could happen to you.
A
It's that easy?
B
Yeah. For a limited time, Tempo's offering our listeners 60% off your first box. Go to tempomeals.com beckandkyle that's Tempo Meals.com.
A
Beandkyle for 60% off your first box. Temple meals.com beckandkyle rules and restrictions.
B
Yes.
A
We're going to get.
B
Unless you don't want to.
A
What do you call that? The.
C
Just don't shoot my feet.
A
Wow. We're not trying to do that.
B
I didn't know. I didn't know they let people in the building like that.
A
I know.
C
It's quite.
B
Wait. What? No, because their shoes, their feet, because they're.
C
I can make good money on them.
B
Because they're little. These are sand. You and I have big. We have shoes covering. Yeah.
C
Okay.
A
And we just got off to a very interesting start. I did not see that coming.
C
Yay. Oh, and you have a girl on.
B
Yeah. We're not used to having girls around here. Except for Anya.
A
No. Or what? What?
B
Wow.
C
Suggesting.
A
Yeah.
C
Sorry about the mint, everyone. It'll be gone in just moments.
B
No.
A
Do you want. Do you want time?
B
No, no. We. We can play with it, too.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
I eat the. I love eating. I love grabbing, though. You got in the restroom.
C
Yeah. Stole a couple other things from the restroom, too.
B
Oh, okay.
C
Grabbed a couple shout wipes, you know, for stains, before we go.
B
Oh, my gosh. I can't believe you just said that. Our full intro was talking about how.
A
K. So I did the Tide pen first and then I wiped it with.
C
What was it?
B
Well, he was talking about in the intro. He said it was because he took his jeans off and masturbated on them and there Were cum stains.
C
Yeah, yeah. Shot wipes good for come.
A
Yeah, well, yeah, you know.
B
Yeah.
A
I like Beck said.
B
Yeah.
A
I took off my jeans, sort of actually didn't explain what you hang them up. I put them on a stool.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I had a jackpot.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Which is totally normal.
A
And I sprayed my.
C
Yeah, yeah, totally.
B
Well, that's kind of a normal thing.
A
But that's why when I kiss.
B
Yeah. And then when I Would you call yours rope?
A
I actually won.
C
And then I hanging out with guys.
A
I texted the threat, I texted the podcaster and I said, may I source a tide pen?
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. For when I arrive for my ropes. Yeah, yeah.
A
I apologize, Kate. I feel like that's. We're going blue immediately.
B
I do apologize.
C
You test me, see if I can hang.
B
Yes. I got this.
C
I've been through the ringer. I've been doing comedy wobbling in the scene for a while.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Comedy wob.
B
Comedy wobble for a while.
C
Yeah.
A
I'm comedy wobbly.
B
Yeah. But no, Kyle actually thought it was el Pastor Grease.
A
I think that maybe I threw some salsa in a taco and like it was either some meat or some salsa that dripped off.
C
My neurologist just told me this whole thing about. About Alpa Store. He goes, you can't do pork from.
B
Really? Yeah.
C
He goes. He's like. I was. You know, he's a neurologist. You know, he's well known neurologist and he.
B
Oh, well known. Not just a regular old neurologist.
C
He's good Santa Monica. And he said that when he was starting out the er. Every week I see the concern in Kyle's face. Every week somebody comes in with a brain worm from the store. There's something going on with the pork.
B
Something specifically.
A
This is currently.
B
This is going to drive Jesse.
C
He goes, don't do it. He goes. He goes, listen, eat. He's like. Then I was like, what is going on? And why is it so like. Yeah, I was a little like, is this like racialized? Just like Mexican food?
B
Yeah, right.
C
But. But like he was like. He was like Mexican pork. He's like, I'm just telling you, I saw brain worms people and his carnitas pork.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
But el pastor is with the pie.
C
Pastor is the pork. You know, traditionally the pork with the pine. It's unbelievable. It's fabulous.
B
Yeah. It's absolutely fabulous.
C
Anyway, it's hard to be a downer here.
B
No, no, that's. No, this is important for all of our listeners. To know that you guys watch out. Look into the al. Pastor. We have to do your own research because Kate's just dropping this on us. We don't know how exactly this is at all.
C
I'm a doctor, but, you know, different doctors have different schools of thought about this kind of.
A
You are a doctor?
C
I was going to medicine, then I. Yeah.
A
Oh, well, if you didn't finish, did you finish?
C
No. I was going to become a full doctor and I decided to. I got the degree. Okay. Now that can inform the company.
B
And so once you got the degree, you were like, I don't need this.
C
It was so weird. It was like once I did that, I fulfilled that and kind of, you know, got that stamp of approval. But my community and my parents. And then I went. I'm actually liberated from this. I don't need to go into medicine.
B
That's amazing.
C
But I can practice if I need to.
B
Oh, and what. Oh, what kind of practice? It's just like, right? Just like general practitioner.
C
I mean, I'm certified as a family position. It's like.
B
That does make sense. Yeah, that actually does check out with me. Kyle seems a little bit lost, but I know you to be a doctor.
A
She's lying. I can tell. She's telling a film.
B
I can't tell at all. Yeah.
C
Kyle doesn't think that someone like me comes in here in cargo pants. I didn't mean to go full camo army outfit.
B
No, but it is a very nice.
C
Outfit, but thank you.
B
The tone is. Is very. It's.
C
How does someone like her practice medicine?
A
That's not. Kate, I've known you a long time and I've never heard of this. What are you talking about?
B
I can't believe you never told us you were a doctor before.
C
Watch out for some kinds of pork.
B
Okay, I will. Now can I you go to a neurologist?
C
Migraines.
B
Migraines.
A
Oh, I'm sorry. I feel like I don't really experience them, but I feel like people who suffer from that, they can be really awful.
C
I put a shot in my leg every month. Can you believe this? I'm going needle in my leg every month. Aimovic, check it out.
B
Jesse. Jesse did that for a while with.
C
My insurance company now. Used to. They used to cover it. Five bucks I go in. How much you think my aim of a shot was?
A
Hang on.
C
Guess.
B
I think I know before it was covered.
A
Shit. Come on.
B
You say. You say you guess. You guess.
C
Okay, you're never going to guess.
B
Okay, one shot.
A
Now this is one shot.
B
And it's good for a month. It treats the migraine for a month.
A
I'm trying to get.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
Now I just want to add that. I just want to say this. We know that whenever we sort of set up one of these, like, guess how much there's. There could be some disappointment because if I go to.
C
No, as soon as I said, you're never going to guess. I go, don't say that.
A
But. Okay, sorry. The context you're adding, you need it once a month.
C
Once a month.
A
And with insurance. It was five bucks.
C
With insurance, I got it down to five bucks.
A
Okay.
C
With the coupon plus insurance.
B
Yeah, coupon.
C
Got the insurance.
A
I had a number in my head initially.
C
Yeah.
A
Okay. 150.
B
I'm gonna. I'm sweetheart, like way higher. Was it 750?
C
Look at my eyes. Higher.
B
Really?
A
No, I've been going.
C
My neurologist took mercy on me. I've been going in and getting the free samples. Actually, I gotta call them and go, I need another sample. $930.
A
Wait, sorry. How long does it last?
C
A month. To be clear, I've only. So. So. And then I go the whole thing. What can I do? Letters to the insurance company. But I've been through in this battle.
B
Okay, yeah.
C
America has a problem. And I. And then I got it down. They go, we got it down to 720. I go, 7:20 is not gonna cut it, girls.
B
Whoa.
C
So one time, cuz I've been. Again, I've been going. The free sample. One time I had to pay. I was going out of town. I go, I'm leaving. I'm going international tomorrow. I can't risk any migraines. I go in the woman behind the thing, she goes, you're aware of the cost. I go, yeah, yeah. I go. And it's on. Blood's on your hands for not letting it fall off the shelf. You know what I mean? It's on your hands.
B
It's not. It's on your hands for.
C
Yeah, I just. I just go. I have.
A
You're. You're responsible.
C
Well, I'm just like.
A
She is.
C
Yeah. Her. I mean, how does she sleep at night?
A
Yes, she's charging me.
C
And so. So I paid for it once. And.
A
Oh, mama, I'm sorry.
C
Yeah. But. But yeah.
A
Can I ask again? Not having not really experienced this. So you were going to travel. Were you going to travel for work?
C
Yeah. So our child pleasure these days is working. He was going vacation.
A
Oh, I gotta ask you about this. Yeah. Oh, I've got a tangent But I want to know. Okay, don't. I want to ask. I'm gonna ask the thing I intended to ask. But then I have to ask you a secondary question. Okay. So if you didn't get the shot and you were. You're doing shows, was that what it was or was it. Okay, what. What would happen? I mean, like, you would have.
C
I also shot. So shows and shooting.
B
I. I actually want to bring. That means we want to bring something up.
A
Don't let me forget the thing that I. I need this more.
C
Okay. Okay. Okay.
A
This is. It's very important. But. Yeah. So, like, what would happen? What would. How would that effect work?
C
Like, before my shot, three days a week, migraine. So I have a pill. I have it with me right now. I can take that. If I get a migraine, it's gonna take the pain away. It's called Trixamet, which my son was named. Yeah, exactly. It's a blue. It's a blue pill.
B
He's not trying to say it turns you into a robot.
C
It's a big blue pill. I'll show it to you, and it'll take the pain away. But it makes me feel kind of groggy.
A
Sure.
C
It's not a painkiller. It just works for migraines. But it just makes, you know, you don't be taking that.
B
No, absolutely not. No, it makes you grog.
A
Especially when you got to be on.
B
You got to be ready to go. You got to be around the instincts.
C
I gotta be sharp. Language, conjuring. Language, instincts.
B
Yeah, absolutely.
C
So it makes me a little dull.
A
But, like, not fair. Have you ever experienced a. A migraine while performing?
C
Like, I've had happen a couple times where literally the foot takes one step off stage. It's like the adrenaline or whatever, your.
A
Body goes, oh, you're fighting it.
C
Clown. But then the second I get off, we got you. The clown mask slips. Yeah.
A
In those scenarios, are you, like, about to. Are you preparing to perform and, like, it could happen.
C
Yeah. I mean, before the shot. So I go, the shot changed my life. It's like your landmine. You're like, when am I gonna get it? When's it coming? It's gonna ruin my life.
A
Yeah.
B
Would it ever come, like, on stage? That's what I just asked.
A
That's exactly what I just asked.
C
I remember once, truly, maybe like over.
B
15 years ago, I was listening to.
A
K. Exactly what the.
B
Know. I know, but like, mid. Like in, like, like, not right before, but like.
C
Yeah, one time I had. I was fully in the Performance. And it was happening.
B
Okay, okay, okay. Now.
A
And I still got.
B
Okay.
C
This still blew the roof off the joy co. J.
A
Give me one of those fives.
C
Yes.
A
This is a big thing.
C
Okay, good.
A
Okay. We were just having a conversation about this, and I may.
C
What?
A
No, I'm. Maybe I blew this out of proportion.
C
Mm.
A
Okay.
C
Maybe get a little lumbar support. Cause someone tells me this is a big one.
A
I need to know yourself.
B
It's really important.
C
And you don't have to make the environment comfortable for myself I'm gonna perform.
B
Well, of course you have to. Yes. That's what the aim of it is all about.
A
Kate and I are both. Kate and I were both in Austin, Texas, about a week ago.
B
Okay.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
We were both doing shows in separate places. And we. We had a nice text exchange. But, like, we were.
B
We're.
A
We're playing some similar cities. And here's something I've encountered while being on the road. I've never really been on the road. You've done it more than me. And something that I'm having a big issue with.
C
Okay.
A
Hotels. Okay. Not.
C
It's all I talk about. It's all I think about.
A
Okay. Having to use key card access in the elevator.
C
Yeah.
A
Do you take any issue with it?
C
So here's what I'll say.
B
Yeah. Yeah. It's complicated.
C
I was staying at a very nice hotel. Sorry. But I was.
B
I was.
C
No key card access. And I got a little sting of my safe.
A
Okay.
C
It was interesting. I wasn't expecting it.
B
That's right.
C
I go, this is a nice joint. I go. Anyone can just also. Hotel with big booming lobby. Different hotels. I'm sorry. Different restaurants.
B
Anybody's coming in, people are coming in.
C
And I go. And I go.
B
There could be a man just watching you. Yeah.
A
This was a point. This was. This was. This.
B
They're watching.
A
Anya said pretty much made the exact same points, which. It makes a lot of sense.
C
But then sometimes I go. I go, oh, this is so chic. No, because I go.
B
Right.
C
You know who has no key card access? I'm sorry, but the Bowery Hotel in New York City. Favorite celebrity. I mean, famous celebrity hunt.
B
Anybody could just walk in.
C
I mean, I'm sure they've got it all. They've got, like, a secret thing that's, like, invisible. The security system. But the keyguard. It can be a. And every time. That's the thing is holding it there. Actually, I had a slight meltdown. Portland. Arrived in Portland late. And it wasn't my holding. I Was holding it the wrong area. There was an area above the buttons that was the shape of a cr. Of a. A rectangle. And I was like, that must be the sensor. So I'm holding it. Nothing. I go out. It's not working, y'. All. You went.
A
You went back to the lobby, which is.
B
Yeah, this is all stuff we've covered. You are right on.
C
Yeah. And they go, oh, and the sensor was a circle.
B
Was it like. Was it basically invisible? Just like a little. Yeah, like a little.
C
There was a. There was a credit card shaped black abys kind of thing above the buttons. I go, well, if that's not the.
B
Key chords, that's not the key chord.
A
And then I've been saying.
C
I've been. I've been saying my words wrong.
A
Do you ever experience this word?
C
Yeah.
A
Do you experience the moment when like other folks are in the elevator with you and you're. You've got to hold the key card up, put in your floor and they're like, oh, what floor are you? 6. And it's like you've ran out of time?
C
Well, sometimes. And that's the big question. Sometimes. Are you having to re.
A
Yes.
C
For other numbers?
B
Yes. But sometimes your card is only for your floor and it's not just general access.
C
Totally.
A
Okay, so I feel like the conclusion. I'm going to make a conclusion. Forgive me if, if this is. If I'm being. If I'm taking control of the situation in a way that is unwarranted. But we like the safety of it. We don't like the inconsistency of the technology. Is that a fair generalized thing?
B
And for now, is the safety worth the inconvenience? Maybe.
C
I know. Yeah.
B
Well, maybe for now we want. It's a problem. Clearly it's a problem.
C
I'm hovering. The key, it's going. It's all that bad. You know, I really pull back.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
C
But sometimes, yeah, we're having glitches.
B
I'm thinking it's bringing us together in a way.
A
One out of three times I'm struggling.
C
Where you're holding it, it's not reading.
A
And then the key card in the door too, is just as much of an issue.
C
You're having issues there too.
B
Kyle's having problems.
C
The technology can't go through you.
B
Yeah. Maybe you should take a shot every month.
C
Yeah.
B
A different kind of shot. Yeah. One of these right to the frame. What?
A
I didn't even see.
B
I'm joking around, dude.
C
You know, But I'm just gonna. I'm Touch on this very quickly.
B
Has an announcement to make.
C
Everybody touch on this very quickly. But key cards. Here's something that is unbelievable is. And this has only happened to me once, but key card access given to the wrong room. Somebody comes into your room. So I'm gonna quickly. John Early.
B
Yes.
C
Love you, colleague.
B
Dear incredible man.
C
We took a luxurious vacation together to Jamaica.
B
Wow. When did you do that?
C
Three years ago.
B
That's great.
C
God time, you know, searching for that number. Three can't be possible. But I think, I think we're looking at three.
B
Three years ago, it was the Jamaica vacation. That's nuts.
C
Yeah. Four nights in Jamaica and we. So it was very last minute. We planned it like a few days before, so whatever. Like one night we were like in separate rooms. Then we were together. It was like very. But then for the last two nights, I think we had this like gorgeous suite. We're sharing like the honeymoon suite. Two men, we're brushing our teeth.
B
Get out.
C
Having fun in PJs, brushing our teeth.
B
It's just a fun brush.
C
Click. Huh? I hear a man's voice. John goes in there. Two men have entered our room. My adrenaline. And John's useless. He's like, guys. And I, I go, get the out. I. Oh, I like full. Yeah. I went full fight mode. And they were ham. One of them was hammered, convinced it was his room because the room looked identical. I go, how is this possible? Oh, honey. I was talking. I was like this. So the key.
A
It's almost like the key cards aren't individualized for the rooms or something like that.
C
Yes. And so she explained to me.
A
She goes, the universal key card.
C
The key card did work for your room. Cause you usually rent those rooms together. I go, it's of no interest to me if you usually rent the rooms together.
A
That's not justifying the car.
C
Can you believe that? Can you believe the horror? I wrote a gorgeous email. I go, a violent altercation could have happened between two non violent guests.
B
Did you get? Did you get.
A
That's so articulate, isn't it?
C
Yes, I got one. Well, by the way, my friend goes, Jacqueline Novak, who I have a podcast with, to have fun there with it.
B
If you want to.
C
We've talked about on the show. But she goes, whole rooms, the whole stay should be free. I go, it's expensive place. I go, I got one night off.
B
One night is nothing. That's great. That's great. But with the, with the suite. With the suite, you got this.
C
Can you imagine though? I mean, I go, john could be my husband and I could be getting railed. Yes, I could have been. We could have been mid coitus.
B
Absolutely. Hello.
A
And I'm right there.
B
Wherever. On the bed floor, whatever. In the seat.
C
Yeah.
B
One of you guys on the ceiling rafters. Yeah. I had just flying all over the place and they come in.
A
I had a similar occurrence.
C
No, no, no.
A
See this happen. Not related to key cards though.
C
Okay.
A
This was an Airbnb situation. We were staying in Silver Lawless.
B
Yeah, it's.
A
It was sort of a fun. It was just. It was like a bungalow situation. There were multiple bungalows. So our bungalow was owned by a person who lived. Another bungalow.
C
Yeah. The Sackler family.
B
Yes.
C
Yeah, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
And our very last morning. Morning there.
C
Oh, no, not the end of the trip. Go out with a sour taste.
B
I was, yeah, same with you and.
A
John, you know, last night it was like, you know, I don't know, 8:00am, 9:00am in the morning. I was gonna be flying to New York to get back to our work at snl. Sunday morning, and I was in bed with my wife Kate. And I hear something. I hear the door jiggling. And there was construction happening around this week around our stay. So it's like, okay, so something's. They got to be doing something. There's some work being done. Eventually I step outside of the room.
B
Okay.
A
And I notice a pair of Doc Martens of foreign Doc Martens just on the floor.
B
They weren't there before. What are they doing there?
A
And I come back into the bedroom.
C
And I'm like, someone with exquisite taste is trying to break into my room.
A
I think someone might be in here. And then I.
C
No, Kyle.
A
Walk back out.
C
No, no, no, no.
A
Not 8:00am Because I hear. I do hear some footsteps. And there is a man, fully nude, holding with a coffee mug. And it's like almost like the Austin Power situation where like, you know, where you like can't see his private skin.
C
Yeah, yeah, perfectly.
A
I'm not seeing anything I'm not supposed to see.
C
Perfect. Yeah, yeah.
A
But I'm like, hi. And he's like, hey, no, no, no, hey. And then I'm trying to remember exactly how it went down. He might have gone back. He might have just gone back to his bedroom. And then I went back to. To my bedroom. I was like, like, yeah, Kate. I just interacted with this guy and I was like, I don't know what to do. So I immediately got in touch. I am not. I am passive. I am non confrontational.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Well, you do.
C
Unless I need to be. I actually learned that about myself because I also. I don't want to.
B
Yeah, but if. Unless you need to for survival, it'll come out.
C
Then I get the out.
B
Yeah, but you could probably always unleash it.
A
It's awesome.
B
I think.
A
And he's. He's better at being.
C
I screamed at his friend, so get your boy out of here.
B
Yeah. And they listened.
A
So I didn't even like. So I sent a message to the Airbnb.
C
There was a nude.
A
I was like, oh, just FYI, Is there. Is someone supposed to be here?
C
Wait, so I want to understand this. A bungalow. So different bedrooms.
A
Multiple bungalows.
C
Multiple bungalow. You exit the bungalow, you come back in.
A
No, I'm. No, no, there. Oh, there are. Sorry. There are multiple bedrooms within our bungalow.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. There's a bedroom, a living room, and another two bedrooms.
C
Encounter him like in the living room.
A
Room, living room, kitchen.
B
And so he. So he was in the other bedroom.
A
He then like, yeah, he just wanted to come out and get his cup of coffee, and then he went back into the other bedroom.
C
So he thinks, oh, I guess it's a co living.
A
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So then I. I messaged completely naked host. And I'm like, hey, there's a guy here. Is that supposed to happen? He's like, what? No. And he immediately comes over and he like. I was like. He comes inside, knocks on the other bedroom door, and he's like, who are you? And he's like, I'm Oscar. And this. And he's like, who's Oscar? He's like, I'm friends with Barry. And I guess there's some sort of situation where this, our host formerly had some sort of person, you know, subletting this home a long time ago and told his friend Oscar, like, hey, anytime you want, you can head over.
C
Yeah.
A
And then he kicked. He. He got Oscar out of there. And, you know, he apologized a ton.
C
Yeah, of course. Would you get refunded?
B
Do you get anything off?
C
No, don't say zero, Kyle. Zero.
A
I didn't ask for anything.
B
Oh, come on. You gotta get something, Kyle.
C
You start with full refund.
B
Full refund.
C
They don't.
B
And then you.
A
One night, you start with full refund.
B
You start with sexually assaulted. Full refund.
C
Yeah.
A
And you know what?
B
A little.
A
This is maybe. Maybe not as interesting as I. As. As I think it is, but. Man's name was Oscar.
C
Wasn't a grouch.
A
It was Oscar Sunday.
B
Oh, it was that. I thought you were saying you're saying his name was Oscar Sunday.
C
Me too. Me too.
B
I got confused, but it was Oscar. The Academy Awards on Sunday.
C
Don't. Don't. And now every Oscar, you get tense every time.
A
And that was the. That was also the.
C
The upset.
A
La La Land.
C
Yeah. I already knew it was on. The upset.
B
The energy was off that day. Oscar. Oscar was.
A
I want to say, Kate, thank you. As you know. Don't. Don't tell us yet, but the premise of our podcast is. What's our podcast? What should our podcast be about? We're trying to figure it out. And you're such a. I will say, I love your podcast. I really want to get this fingerprint out here. And I'm. And I'm such a fan of you. If we can briefly contextualize who you are and.
B
And you do, because you come in here, you're our friend. We're just shooting the easy, breezy guac and squeezy.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
It's all good. People are going, wait. Huh?
C
Dr. Who?
B
Dr. Berlan?
A
Huh?
B
Yeah, yeah. No, but, yeah, Kyle, keep just. Just keep going. Let's contextualize.
A
Yeah. Comedian, actor, performer, artist, improviser. You've done so I feel very genuinely like, I feel so fortunate that, you know, I never got to see you really work in New York before I met you, but we met in my recollection doing Nick Thunes down the street.
C
I was gonna say right here in Hollywood.
A
Yeah, probably. UCB used to be Franklin. And it has been. I really. It's been such a pleasure seeing your work and seen. I don't even say how much it's evolved because, like, I feel like you've maintained your voice and. And done such awesome stuff, and I feel like it's so sweet to see people appreciate it. And I. I don't know that I've gotten so much of that experience of, like, getting to know somebody for a while and. And see them grow as an artist, if that makes any sense.
C
Thank you. I love you. God bless you. I mean, I. Yeah. Start crying. Thank you. It is.
A
And that's not also. That's not something. How are you supposed to respond? No, no, I'm just, like, giving you a.
C
That's what I'm just. I'm just like. I'm just like, thank you. That's really sweet. And also, because. Yeah, I mean, that's. That actually is like. What was that, like, almost 15 years?
B
11.
C
You think? Maybe so crazy.
B
I think. Yeah. I think I saw you for the first time.
C
I have more Respect for you. I mean, hello.
B
Well, hell. Hey, legends.
A
Oh, hello.
B
Thank you, but I.
A
The tuna thing. Oh, hello.
C
Yeah.
A
More tuna.
C
Yep.
B
Oh, too much. Yeah, yeah, that's. Oh, hello. Yeah, of course. Yeah.
A
Say it right or just. We don't want to talk about it.
C
Just want to make sure that we got the credit.
A
What was. What can you tell me? Tell us. Sorry.
B
No, no, go ahead.
C
Always knew I wanted to be a performer. Always. Oh, sorry. What?
A
No, those are great. Well, I guess I wasn't going to start there.
B
Even when you were being a dog.
A
I do.
B
You wanted to be.
C
Always have the camera on me.
A
Always did the. Recently I've seen it a couple times. Maybe you're some sort of promo for your, I imagine, your senior showcase in high school.
C
Oh, yeah, yeah.
A
And was that your first time ever doing stand up?
C
Yes, my first time ever doing stand up. I was 17 years old and I did do a senior showcase. I wrote Stand up for my senior showcase. I have the footage somewhere. I have to like find it and I've only watched it twice because it's like my voice is like 16 octaves higher. It's like, it's very. But, but yeah, that was my, my senior showcase.
A
Do you remember a bit?
C
Sure do make, you know, very like. It was very, like, it was.
A
By the way, Mrs. Wachowski, you do not smell right.
C
It was like very strange because the mix of one liners, but it didn't really make sense.
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
And like, very like, like the joke. The first joke I did, which, you know, is, you know, in poor taste. I came out.
A
I still feel bad about talking.
C
Oh, and then I stood up.
B
I love.
C
Which, I mean, 17 years old. It's not bad.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
I mean, but all these people knew you, right?
C
Well, they were friends. I mean, parents of kids. Sorry. So I was just killing in front of my community.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
I wasn't trying to demean Tough crowd.
C
Our school for girls. Tough crowd.
B
That's not easy.
C
Head of the head of the school.
B
How did it.
A
How did that got a big response? Response?
C
Well, it was. I wonder how many. I think it was. It was under 15 minutes.
A
But that's a pretty healthy amount of time, though.
C
I know. Maybe. I mean, I wish I knew. 12 minutes.
B
That's a lot of time. That's a lot of time to fill.
A
And I go, so you want.
B
You.
A
You knew at 8, 17 years old that you wanted to potentially pursue stand up comedy specifically.
C
Yeah.
B
I mean. And like, would you forgive me if this is an obvious question, but you have your, like your show. Kate, would you consider that stand up or no? No, I wouldn't. And like the standup that I've seen of you, I think I first saw you do stand up in a show with Kyle at Dynasty Typewriter, I think around 2011. And it does like you are an actor. Like you do. It is stand up, but it's not your like. Like it's like I was talking to Jesse about it. It's not like you're like up on stage being like, this is my perspective and this is true. Like it's very like, like there's a lot of humility in it and you're making fun of yourself and you're free flowing. Yeah. Like you're doing characters.
C
Like it's, it's improvisational and I think like. And then I did a show that's like a one woman show. Written, no Improvisation. Yes, A couple moments. But like it's very scripted and it's definitely not stand up but what's funny. I'm doing right now, my new hour. It's my club act, honey. Stand up.
B
Wow.
C
It's my. It's kind of. It's that thing about you can never escape yourself.
B
Yeah.
C
It's like. Oh. Everything I've ever done has. It's like, it's always like about performance. It's like comedy about comedy. I mean. Hello.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
But it's like some kind of meta. Some kind of like watching myself do the thing. But. But right now I'm just doing. Stand up.
B
Just stand up.
A
Sorry.
B
Stand up. Wait, do you do make that face in the. Stand up and do you. Do you make your. Yeah. Wow.
A
But how. Sorry, to be clear, maybe you're.
C
Yeah.
A
Like the hour you're working on, will that be. It's. It's the most like sort of form formatted.
C
It's the most kind of like. And in some way. Yeah, it's the most kind of just stand. Like I improvise in moments. But it's kind. It's like the most kind of straightforward.
B
Not as much of a commentary.
C
Like it's like, yeah, cool.
A
How are you liking it?
B
Yeah.
C
Connecting and. Yeah.
A
And you're. And you're like, you're like. Because I. I'm kind of talking about.
C
I've never. The easiest way to put it is I've never talked about myself on stage. Really? Like, you're always talking about everything you do, but like I've never actually kind of talked about myself and this is the first time I'm kind of actually.
B
Talking about myself, like, sort of.
C
So that's what. I guess what I mean by. By straightforward stand up.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Right.
C
Except it's not, you know, I mean, stand up. It's bad.
B
Yeah.
C
Typically, zoom out stuff's rough.
B
Yeah. So you're redefining it.
C
I'm trying to not do shitty stand up.
B
You're trying to do good stand up.
A
Yeah.
C
Who the hell should you do? I love stand up.
A
Are you getting the, like. Because, Carmen, Christopher has been opening up for me and he's incredibly fun.
B
That's good. Stand up. That's great.
C
Stand up.
A
And I. It's been fun watching the process. I don't typically get to watch an act evolve or, like, try new jokes.
B
Do you.
A
I'm trying to think of a better. I mean, do you get excited or get off on. Oh, now that's a. That's gonna tie this together in a nice way. Or like. Oh, now I have a button for that.
C
Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think naturally, like, touring, whatever, like, things kind of come into shape and you, like, realize kind of what you're doing.
B
Yeah.
C
And that kind of, for me at least, only happens through doing it. I don't, like, go sit down. Right. It's like I. It's like, happens on stage.
A
Cool.
C
I mean, of course I sit down and write. That'd be crazy. I have a desk.
B
Yeah. You have to write stand up at a desk. You have to sit down and take it seriously. It looks like fun and games, but it's actually a lot of hard work.
C
Thank you, by the way. Thank you.
B
Yeah. It's important to recognize.
A
What was your. Were you acting at nyu?
C
No, I was rejected from acting school. This is a key part of my personal.
A
I should know that narrative.
C
Sorry.
B
And then.
A
But what was the name of the. It was.
C
I went to. I did. I jumped around a little. I went to Barge College for a year.
B
Okay.
C
Went to Gallatin. Nyu.
B
Nice. And then.
C
And then I went to a graduate master's program at NYU that is called performance studies, which is deceiving because it sounds like it's about theater, but it's not. It's actually like an academic pursuit.
B
And you're. And you're studying it. You're not.
C
It's like this study, performance studies, like, relates to this category of, like, academic academic inquiry that's, like, about the way language performs, the way the law performance, the identity performs. But it's not actually about the stage really. Like, sometimes you bring in performance to talk about life, but it's really more like highfalutin, like, academic.
B
Do you feel like that serves your performing now?
C
Like, yeah, definitely. And I think because I was at school, so I was in these very heightened academic settings, but then I was doing stand up, and it, like, just directly, like, became part of my standup kind of like, because, you know, trying to, like, sound smart, but, like, not saying anything rare. Yeah, yeah.
B
I. I cannot. In Kate, your one woman show, you cry at the end.
C
Well, Beck, now there's no reason for people to go see it.
B
I was saying the audience cries at the end. Like you. I meant. I'm so sorry. We can cut that. No, no, let me take it back.
C
No, no, no, no.
B
And it's very inspiring. It's such a great. I. I can't. I don't think I can think about cry. Somebody crying in a movie or having to cry in something without thinking about your show.
C
I do shows about. Definitely, definitely about being an actor. Actress kind of story. And yes, there's a whole thing about trying to cry. And. Yeah, because I rejected from acting school, always like, but I'm an actor. I'm an actor. I want to be seen that way. And then being around actors where it's like the, the, you know, the. The test for are you a good actor? Is crying. And you get actors in a room, in a class, and if someone's crying, everyone's like. And it's like, well, it's not really like, you know, is that. Is that what it is? If you.
B
If your body's able to produce wetness out of your eye, then you're a good actor.
C
Yeah. You're channeling. I don't think so.
B
Well, we had ripping apart and skewering it and analyzing it.
A
Yeah, that's fucking bad.
C
I had to go there.
A
The surgeon general warning, what is your ideal pizza? I have to know.
C
Hot in the center, cold toward the.
A
I.
C
I like a cold crust, radiate outwards.
B
I see cold crust.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Okay. So our podcast, as you know, is called what's our Podcast? And we're trying to figure out what our podcast should be about. Curious if you have an idea of what you think our podcast should be about.
C
God, I mean, it could be anything. Because I was thinking, I go chocolate. Yeah, I was like, I said, I was like, we could go. We could go travel. Go hotels.
B
Yes.
C
We could go fitness. You guys doing different challenges. Oh, different fun lifestyle challenges.
B
Yeah.
A
Like, as in, like, like, okay, we're.
C
Gonna try this for a week. We're gonna do that.
A
Yeah.
B
Right?
C
We're gonna lift heavy. We're gonna lift light. We're gonna go to our first Pilates class with our wives. And then you show up, and I'm teaching it.
B
And then you're teaching it.
C
Let me go. Digital Monetize on YouTube.
B
I mean that.
A
So it starts off just an audio situation.
B
Yeah. And then it's going visual, and then it's like, a whole thing.
C
Yeah.
A
We got. We had hotel, chocolate. Travel.
C
Men's fashion.
A
Men's fashion.
B
Wow.
C
Maybe each week you make a new purchase of something, and then you talk about it. That's basically what my podcast is talking about, what you buy. I'm like. I'm like. Grapes, shoes, furniture. Home improvement.
B
I mean, a home improvement show would be really cool, kind of.
A
I mean, what do you want to do? We're gonna. We're gonna go do this podcast.
C
I know.
A
Together.
C
You're gonna go do the.
A
With you.
B
Like, I feel like. I mean, honestly, I kind of feel like hotels and travel are good, but maybe we've covered enough of it. The other option would be fitness or chocolate, I think.
C
Yeah. Yeah. Or.
B
Or fashion.
C
Sinner's Delight. Or. Okay, wait.
B
That sounds awesome.
C
Something that's like. So it's like, what's the treat? Like, okay. Something. Something here. There's something, like, you pick a challenge, and then you get a treat. So it's like, you. Something you don't want to do, and then you get to pick your treat. Like, you have to file the insurance form for whatever, but then to do that, you have to do that, and it sucks.
B
Yeah.
C
But then you pick the treat at the end. So it's like, you're like, I'll file the insurance claim, and then I get to go have nachos and beer.
B
Okay.
C
Yeah.
A
Sinner's Delight.
C
I don't know why. Sinners.
B
I got it.
A
Sinner's Delight.
B
Sinner's Delight.
C
And it's like when you.
B
When you fill out a form and then you get a treat.
C
Yeah. I guess it's just how I live my life.
A
We just do a sinner's delight situation.
B
I don't know where the sin comes in, because you're doing a good thing, you know?
C
Well, I guess, like.
B
But I do like the idea of Sinner's Delight. Yeah. But then I feel like I'm trying.
A
Yeah. I'm trying to think of how we could do that today. Like, right now. Like, we could, like, I guess, because it's almost like a true. It's Almost like a dare. Like a dare situation. But you're getting rewarded, but then you get the reward.
C
So you choose the thing that you don't want to do, but then you get the treat.
B
And then. But then we don't want.
A
Our treats are sort of like whatever are in the kitchen of.
C
Or.
A
Yeah.
C
In the very close radius of the studio.
A
Oh, yeah. I guess you're right because we had nachos and beer.
B
Yeah. Yeah. You know, Kyle, do you have a instinct?
C
I don't know.
A
I think travel is.
C
I mean, a lot.
A
A lot to cover.
B
We could do that or we could do hotels.
A
But I do like Sinners. And we could just see what happens.
B
Yeah. We could just call. Call it Sinner's Delight. And then we're gonna go in there. Yeah. Maybe that could be the most fun.
C
And it's like you're putting things that you're putting off. You only will do them when you get your treat.
B
So we only. You only get your treatment now.
C
It's like a procrastination if you do them. So there's actually a way. And then people at home can participate. Well, here's my center. I have to get my real id.
A
Okay.
C
And when I get my real id, then I get to get a full body scrub at it.
A
So we're solved.
C
My choice.
B
Wow. That's. That's the story. So a lot of.
A
So some of it is also in this case, it might be sort of coming up in the future. It's like today I'm going to. Or yesterday I did. Is that accurate? Or right now, in this moment while I'm talking.
C
Right. Like, what are you gonna do on the podcast? Be on the phone with the dmv?
B
Yeah.
C
It'd be pretty good. People want.
A
We can make some phone calls.
C
They want to see behind the curtain.
A
Yeah.
C
You could do some phone calls.
A
Yeah. Okay.
C
Start doing building strategies for those tasks.
B
Or we could also just call it Sinner's Delay.
C
And it's just like talking about everything you love.
B
All the times we extend sinful things.
A
Yeah. That was kind of what I initially imagined that it was like, what is your. What? What? You know, it's sort of like, what's that little bad thing that you love?
C
Thing that you love.
A
Yeah, but I. But let's just see what happens. We'll see you guys. We'll see you all soon.
B
We're gonna try Sinner's.
C
By the way, I. I've never said anyone. Let's go get nachos and beer. Except for you.
B
Guys, you could feel.
C
I had an unbelievable meal. Holy basil. And at water.
B
Oh, yeah.
C
I've only gotten takeout, so I've been a couple times. The menu's changed.
A
And I went in.
C
There I go. The menu looks different.
B
I'm scared because I went there a year ago.
C
Yeah, yeah. Oh, honey, it's different. Center's delight. Unbelievable. And then they go. And then they go. To me, they go to. Monday nights only. We do a Wagyu smash. The owners are here. They're making it up.
A
A smash burger.
C
Double. Double patty. Holy basil special smash.
B
Oh, I gotta go. Wait, what?
C
Yeah, Monday nights.
B
Monday nights. Start the week off.
A
If you're just joining us, you're listening to sinners Delight.
B
I'm. And I'm Beck Bennett.
A
I feel like we jumped into the sin already.
B
Me and Kyle love to sin. We love to delight in the sin.
A
We're gonna get with some trouble today.
B
We have. We have one. Our guest today loves to sin as well.
A
And, you know, I got to say, Beck, she's also a delight.
B
She is. When you. Yeah, she is a real sinner's delight. Ladies and gentlemen, Caper Land. Thank you for being here.
C
Thanks for letting me sit with you.
A
Absolutely. Thanks for sitting s. Yes, thanks for sitting.
B
Sitting in with us.
A
I haven't seen you in a while, by the way. No, but you really are a delight.
B
I saw. I saw the sin or something.
A
I saw the sin.
C
So anyway, you show a segment. Forgive me, father, for I have sinned. And then it's something that you did that.
B
Oh.
A
That you didn't tell your dad about.
B
Oh, so, like. So, like. Wait, what was that last word that.
A
You didn't tell your dad about?
B
Forgive me, father. Forgive me for. Father, for I have sinned. And then it's like. Yeah, I. Yeah, okay.
A
I didn't.
B
I've.
A
Yeah, well, let's. Well, let's get right into it. Yeah. Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned. Father, I need to speak to you. I did something that I should not have done.
C
Naughty meter all the way up here.
B
Oh, I already had a 10. The naughty meter.
A
I went into my older brother Sean's room, and I found the Playboy magazine.
B
Oh.
A
And I brought it into my room, and I've hid it underneath my bed, and I have utilized it. Father, I have sinned. Okay, that was.
C
Father, I have sinned.
B
I love that segment.
C
That's a big one.
B
Very vulnerable. Very. I guess you came out and put that out there. And obviously, as we know, Kyle is the only one who does The Father.
C
Thank you again for this was his corner. But there's something about this show. It makes it so great. We all sin.
B
Yeah. We all sin.
C
We all sin. And everyone.
B
We all don't talk about, like, we all don't do, like, a little confessional to our Father, but we all sin.
A
Yeah.
B
And, you know, sometimes you. You don't. It's hard to talk about those sins.
A
And I.
B
This is a place where we can delight.
A
I. You know, I got. It's. It's. It's wild because, you know, here I am.
B
Yeah. Of course.
A
40 years old.
B
Okay.
A
I host a podcast all about sinning.
C
Yeah.
A
But also finding delight.
C
Yeah.
A
And I got to say.
B
Yeah. Because it's always. There's a lot of shame around sin.
C
I have to feel shame.
A
Absolutely. And here's what. And abs. Yeah, absolutely.
C
By the way, thing. There is a lot of shame around.
B
And that's a problem. That'. Toxic. We have to get rid of that ab, Everybody.
A
Yeah, absolutely.
C
And here I am.
A
I host at 40 years old.
B
You're 40 years old.
A
I host podcast.
C
Yeah. And I gotta say, I'm not.
B
Okay, hear me out. Yeah.
A
I'm not. I'm not sure I can name the seven deadly sins.
B
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Here we go.
C
40.
B
40.
C
And this is his 41, by the way.
A
Soon. Need some of that. Need some of that. Yeah, that Aesop. Need some of that Aesop. Because I am. I'm looking 44 over here. Okay, let's try it. Okay. Seven deadly sins. Adultery. Is that one.
B
No, no, wait.
C
That's Sloth.
B
Sloth is. Think of the movie 7.
A
Sloth.
C
That's what I was gonna think.
B
Gluttony.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
Greedy.
B
Greed. Wait, wait. Gluttony. Sloth.
C
Pride.
B
Greed. Pride. Is there something with the gel?
A
Not Envy.
C
Envy.
B
Envy.
C
That's the girl in the hotel. It's not a hotel. We have hotels on the brain. It's an apartment.
A
Talking about.
B
In the movie seven.
A
Yeah.
C
Talking about the movie seven. Pride above.
B
And she's Pride the girl. Because she's like.
C
I got. We should do it. Yeah. You could you watch seven, Do a.
B
Rewatch for that podcast? Why have we not done that? Okay.
C
We're missing.
A
At least.
B
This is the first time we've ever.
A
Brought up seven on our.
B
Because it's not. It's not. It's not deadly. It's not deadly sin. Sinners delight. Right. It's just sinners delight.
C
Yeah.
A
But keep going.
C
Pride. Soft. Greed.
B
Greed.
A
Envy.
C
Envy.
B
Anger.
C
Yeah. Wrath.
B
Wrath. Yes. It Is because that's the last one.
C
Okay. Okay.
B
Spoiler. Okay, turn it off if you don't want spoilers.
C
At the end of the 70s, head.
B
Is in the box. Brad Pitt blows his head off.
C
Yeah.
B
So that's what happens.
C
It comes basically it was like this. He receives it. He receives the execution.
B
Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, he just forgot it. I'm completing the circle.
A
No, remind me what sloth is.
B
It's being too slow.
C
Being a lazy, lazy boy.
B
Yeah.
C
Lazy, by the way, that's a big sin for me. I gotta say.
B
Yes, I'm sleeping in.
C
That's a big sin.
A
Talk about, talk about, talk about an ideal lazy sloth.
C
I. I love being a little slot, a little slother.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. So walk us through your sloth.
A
I just slaughters the life.
B
But walk us through.
A
But more of a walk.
B
More of a walk us through of a sloth. Kind of a delight for you, I.
C
Think for me also sleep hour wise. Getting sleep. Right.
A
What is your.
C
Yeah.
B
Oh, fuck.
A
I'm interrupting you. God damn it. And I've just committed one of the seven deadly sins.
B
Interruption, Interrupting a woman.
C
I will listen because I am a woman and the medical system is catered towards you guys and it's a. I.
B
Think it's a problem you.
C
Thank you.
B
Yeah.
A
Dude, he's been. And he taught. He tells me this, all this. This guy is a full freake about it. He loves. He loves all the. You guys are doing.
C
Totally.
B
It's like. Yeah.
C
So men, you guys. Five hours of sleep. Six hours of sleep, seven hours of sleep. You're okay.
B
Seven.
C
Us. Us gals. Nine. Eleven. And how were you for me, eight hours ain't enough.
A
I left wine my. The. The central woman in my.
C
Yeah.
A
Good life. Currently I have a daughter. I'm not going to call her a woman yet.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Is that fair?
C
Yeah. She's not a woman. She's a baby.
B
Yeah. She's a baby.
A
Baby says it's like women need a lot of sleep.
C
Yes.
B
Because they got. They got more complicated systems.
C
Well, babies beyond all babies need a lot of sleep. But. But women, you've got the tits, you've got the. Yeah. The hormones.
B
The hormones.
C
Women need more sleep. And that's the. Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
Because I get in eight hours, I'm waking up like this. That'll do big. You know, it's enough. But I'm not, I'm not. And I'm just curious. I'm oinking at 10.
B
You're what?
C
Oinking like a pig. I'm loving it.
B
Yeah.
A
And they put. They oink when they're happy.
C
When they're happy.
B
Yeah. When they're like a pig.
C
When they're sad, they're silent. But when I do. But 10 for me, honey, I haven't had 10 in a minute. 10 is a.
B
So you. Your body will let you give. Will give you 10. Like if you're like, it's been a minute, you know, Alcohol, sleep aids.
C
No, I don't do sleep aids. I'm very scared of sleep aids. Melatonin. Stay away.
B
Yeah. Weird dreams.
C
Well, melatonin just in an emergency, but you don't want to just. You don't want to disrupt those. Those natural. Once you start taking melatonin, you got to wake up, you got to go out. You got to feel the sunlight in your eyes. That's it.
A
I got to be fully honest. Pod sooner delight reveal.
B
Yes.
A
I'm popping a Xanax before I go to bed.
C
Oh, yeah, that's great.
B
How many milligrams?
C
I'm not calling a pin under the bed for emergencies, okay? So listen to me. Listen to me. You don't want me doing it every night. I found. Here's a Sinner's Delight for you.
B
Yeah.
C
Oh, it's a Sinner's Delight. It's a sleeper. Sinner's Delight. I found this pouch. You can get an erewhon and cheap, sweetheart. That's why Sinner's Delight. Okay.
A
Yeah, that's a wide.
C
Couches. I had one on the road. There's no melatonin on it. It's got tryptophan, you know, which is like what. What turkey has. Exactly.
B
Whoa.
C
Tart cherry chart. Tart cherry juice. It's got all this stuff. Stuff a pouch. I go. I was like, I'm gonna take this on the road. I'm gonna see what happened. One night I get home, I'm wired. Buzz from the crowd. You know how.
A
Yeah.
C
You're jacked. I. I'm in there. I go. I kind of want to go to sleep. I'm just a little tired. I take it. I.
B
Shuts down fully loses fully.
C
I wake up in the morning flushed.
A
Didn't feel it. Don't. No hangover.
C
Oh, zero.
B
Oh.
C
And by the way, I. I said everyone the day go they were out trying to stuff is the brand I.
B
Mess with a little unisum. Nobody knows what it is.
C
What's that?
B
It's been on the shelves for a long time.
C
I think I've seen that and it.
B
Works a lot better than melatonin. And I. Sinner's delight. I take it too much.
C
What's in it?
B
I don't even know.
A
Yeah, I do.
C
I get it. Also, you've got young kids. It's like, what is.
A
What is the issue with melatonin?
C
Well, the issue with melatonin is that you don't really. Melatonin here and there. Sure. But once you're starting to disrupt the brain's natural way that it produces and shuts down melatonin, it's kind of like you get into it and then you can't naturally.
B
Yeah.
C
So. So it's like you kind of want to.
A
Yeah.
B
You want to do it yourself. You want to be able to sleep.
A
So. So you're slothing out.
B
You get nine hours sleeping for me.
C
10.
A
Oh, 10 is you're sleeping and then. And then what? How else are you to sleep?
C
Staying in bed for an additional two hours.
B
Wow.
A
What? And. And are you on your phone? Are you on the laptop?
C
Unfortunately, I'm on the phone.
B
Of course.
C
Naturally, that'd be sinner sight.
A
And that's social media.
C
I'm on the phone. I'm scrolling news, texting emails. No news. If it's sinner's delight, I'm getting the news right through the. The horror of the feed. I'm on Instagram. Soon as delight. My lover brings me coffee in bed. And I'm there.
A
This is a nice.
C
Drinking the coffee. I've got a nice foam top on the coffee. I'm sitting there. Open the window, baby. I want to feel the sunlight. Open the window. Get some natural airflow in there. What's for breakfast? Ultimate sinners Delight.
B
Well, ultimate Sarah's delivery would be.
C
It would be a major delivery.
B
Yeah.
C
But I love a luxurious, fun breakfast. So I'll go, where are we going? Because delivery. I'm going, I got my burrito spots. I want to get that crunchy burrito in bed. Crunchy burrito, I love you got to have breakfast now.
A
Crunchy burrito.
C
Yeah, because. Cause hash potato.
B
Yes, I love some hash potatoes.
C
Crunchy potato in there. And then the wake and like, you know that they wake and like burrito crispy bacon bits inside the burrito. You're gonna be on all fours going, God, how does it feel so good to sin?
B
I love it when it feels good to sin and there's not shame.
C
Exactly. Because there's no shame with sinners delight. When did you do it? Right.
B
Yes.
C
And there's such a, like cilantro crema. It comes and then you're putting it on you're in bed, the sinner's delay. You've got the PJs on, you got nowhere to be and you're in bed in the sinner's delight.
A
Can I say something, can I say something to my two friends right here?
B
Yeah, yeah. This is between us.
C
Yeah.
A
Knowing you for both a decent amount of time, you longer, but you for a decent portion of time, pretty good amount of time, we deserve to sin.
B
Here you are 40 years old, by the way. Right. Saying, really saying the thing that finally needs to be said.
C
And here's what interesting. I need to receive that from you because a colleague that I respect some, I've known a long time, right. We, we can't give it to ourselves so we can get it from people that we respect.
B
You have.
A
To people that know I'm bad saying that. And I got to say, I struggle with allowing myself to sin.
B
Yeah. Especially as we get older, we're like, I'm an adult now. I can't sin anymore.
A
But you know what?
B
It's not funny anymore.
A
I'm going to, I'm, well, I, I, I break, break a little news here, okay. For our sinner delight listeners who we.
B
Call our or sickos, little devils.
C
Yeah. This guy.
A
You know, I mentioned earlier, I'm going to Santa Barbara tomorrow.
C
Oh, you're gonna sin when I send you the check that you're getting.
A
And I gotta say, you know, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a weekend getaway for my wife and I. We've not, we've not had one.
B
So we're gonna, it's. So we're gonna have some, some gluttony, some.
A
So this is maybe.
C
No baby.
A
No baby.
C
Oh yeah. Full sinners.
A
This is going to be a sinner's delight.
B
Some.
C
Yeah.
A
Now we've already made two devils. We've already made some playing the angels away.
C
The devils will play.
B
Yeah, a little. Yeah.
A
I know my sickos are getting excited.
B
It's going to get nasty. Okay. Yeah, definitely bring a couple, you're going to want to bring a couple wet wipes.
A
Yeah.
C
Get a couple extra shot wipes.
A
We already have 4:30. 4:30 reservations for a nice. What's my favorite wine tasting room?
C
I go 4:30 dinner.
B
Yeah, 4:30 really sin hard.
C
You're all digested before bed.
B
Oh my God, yes.
C
10 o' clock rolls around, you feel sexy.
B
Well, well, yeah, exactly. Because after a meal you're like, it's over.
C
We can't.
B
You're at the hotel. We can't sin. I sin too much at dinner and I can't sit in. It happens all the time. That's what you got to do. That's what you're a proper sinner. If you really wanted to lighten your sin. 4:30 dinner, big old. You could even have a nap before your bedtime. Sinning.
C
Exactly, exactly. Don't let sinning get in the way of your sin.
B
That's right. That's what we always say here.
A
Well our, our dinner is at. At sin 36:30.
B
That's pretty early.
C
That's good, that's good.
B
You still get a nice walking after.
A
That and yeah, it's gonna be. It's a. Apparently a nice Indian place. Place with natural wine.
C
Oh yeah. Little orange.
A
Biodynamic orange.
C
A little pet nat. That's what I like.
A
O you like the bubble.
B
That's what I always say. Bubbles, bubbles.
C
I get all.
B
Yeah, yeah. And you drink.
A
When is the last time you send.
C
I know exactly where you're having dinner by the way. I just realized.
A
I believe it's called bbg.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Bbg.
C
Yeah, yeah. It's good. Yeah. It's like on like a row. It's going to. You're going to feel like you're like at. It's like the. Now I'm gonna sound like I'm degrading it because it's kind of on like a promenade. Promenade esque row of businesses. You're gonna go, is this good? It is.
A
And forecast for sinning.
B
Naughty, naughty.
C
Four devil horns.
B
Four devil horns. That's a lot of devil horns. Four out of five double horns particularly.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
Sickles, they're loving those.
B
I love by the way.
C
I love to sit in Santa Barbara.
A
I have we. I, I rarely get to do it.
C
I sit in carpenteria.
B
Oh, I've been to carpenteria.
C
My favorite. So little doms.
B
Yeah.
C
I'll break it to you. Is it a chain if there are two of them?
B
Carpenteria One is but this one's different. It's more seafood. It's seafood focused.
C
Shrimp cocktail. Incredible shrimp cocktail. You can't get it. We got so much.
B
We got, we got so into the cream.
C
Me and my sinner, we got so hooked on the cream. We come back to Los Feliz. We go, can we get the shrimp? We don't have shrimp cocktail. Here they go, we don't have shrimp cocktail.
A
I go, give me the scram, give me the scram. Come on.
B
Just call the other restaurant, give them the Scram.
C
Yeah, they'll have it.
A
When was the last time you sinned?
B
I'm sure I must have sinned recently. Where was I? No, didn't sin there. Didn't sin. I must have sinned. When I was in.
A
We took a little sinner's trip to New Orleans.
B
Oh.
A
A lot of.
B
I would say some gluttony, of course.
C
And a little sloth at the top.
B
A little sloth at the top.
C
Foamy sloth.
B
Yeah, I definitely sinned there. I had.
A
Yeah, they had these.
B
They had these Bloody Marys.
A
I don't even know if you'd call this a po. Boy, what this was. They had some of these sandwiches, these things.
B
I have something to about talk tell you. Oh, wow.
A
This.
B
This is another.
A
If I were, I. I would put a napkin. I would tuck it underneath your collar.
B
So first night at the end of the ghost tour, right?
C
Yeah.
A
We're hungry.
B
We're on the same flight. We get in late. The ghost tour is wrapped up. It's about 9:30. We checked into our hotel. It's because our flight got delayed. Whatever. There's a. There's a. A little mart at the corner there. And people are like, great sandwiches. Sinner's delight.
C
Yeah, right.
B
Just go nuts. Everybody's saying, this is a sinner's delight.
A
You're a sinner, right?
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
And they've got these PO boys. I get a fried chicken. Po Boy, I really liked it.
C
Yeah.
B
Kyle got.
A
Something.
B
What is it called? Sickos. Sickos are gonna love this. Our gluttonous sickos are gonna love this.
A
You know, Mike Mitchell would know the name of this.
B
It was called something like. Like.
A
It was like the.
B
The sloppy boy.
A
It was like the everything. It was like the. Like, throw it all in there.
B
It was like. It was like grandma's kitchen sink or something.
A
It was the big kitchen sink. It might have been called the kitchen.
B
And. And people were having bites of this. Loving it. I had a bite at the bar and I said, yeah, it's good. Oh, least favorite sandwich I've ever taken a bite of. No, I'm sorry, Kyle. I am. It was slippery. It was sloppy. You sinner. I said, and it's okay. I lied. It was a white lie.
C
Yeah.
A
Worst sandwich you've ever had.
B
I think it was one of the worst sandwiches I've ever had. It was like so. It was like so sloppy. Shifted around too many ingredients.
A
Compact ham fallen off. It was very mayonnaise heavy. And che, man, like a melted cheese mayonnaise scenario where they weren't conju. They weren't working together.
B
It was like.
C
Well, too much sin. This. This is the truth.
A
Yeah.
C
You sin on a sin on a sin. Sometimes it cancels out and there's no sending. It's just.
B
It's just.
A
Well, it was a delight to me.
B
Yeah.
C
Okay.
A
And it was. It was sinful to me because I don't usually put that stuff in my body.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
You usually. Yeah, you don't usually put it.
A
I'm like cheese and crackers.
C
That's like what I. Yeah, yeah. Credit card, cheddar.
B
Yeah, yeah, credit card.
C
A little cheddar fit to size their credit card.
A
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you can tear that. You tear that into two, tear that into three.
C
Yeah, totally.
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
Dry nacho. Yeah.
B
You know, just for. You said dry nachos.
C
Yeah, it was a dry. What's the phrase that you used?
A
Dry nacho is. Yes. And I will say, like a pepper jack on tortilla chip. Not a traditional dry nacho.
C
That's gonna be.
A
It's gonna be cold cheddar on tortilla chip.
B
Colby melts better than cheddar.
A
But. Yeah, that's a dry nacho. And I call. You throw. You put brie on a tortilla chip. French dry nacho.
C
Ooh, yeah, yeah, totally. You scrape it. Yeah, Yeah. I don't want any of the husk. Whatever they call it.
B
That's it.
C
People just eat the brie husk. I don't like that.
A
I eat it. To me. Because that's one of my sins.
C
Well, no, but that's. Yeah, you're a fine sinner palette.
A
I'm nasty sinner.
C
I'm getting.
A
I'm getting the glue out of the middle.
B
Who took all the goo?
C
Yeah, exactly.
B
It's like a. Just a rind on a cutting board.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
Oh, God.
A
Okay. Sins you're looking forward to.
C
I know.
B
Oh, my God.
C
I'm really thinking about my center. Well, I am going to be sitting Monday night. Maybe we'll do. Maybe we'll triple date.
A
Date.
C
Organic triple date. I'm sitting for the holy basil Smashburger. That's a sin. I go because I like to. I like to lay out myself.
B
You've not had it?
C
Yeah, no, haven't had it yet.
B
Wow.
C
I know, I know.
B
Okay.
C
I was sitting with my vermicelli anyway. But the point is, okay, if it pads to you, they'll make you really sin. But I like to know my sins ahead of time. I plan my sins. I go Monday night. I'm sitting here. My next big. I have a big sin plan at Mozza Moza Italian restaurant.
A
Absolutely.
C
I got a big sin planned for there.
A
Honey, you know. You know exactly what you're doing.
B
What are you getting? What are you doing?
C
I'm. I'm going hard. I'm going mozzarella bar. I'm getting amazing mozzarella with all the accoutrement.
B
Absolutely.
C
I'm going orchette sausage. Oh, maybe a little steak. I'm doing a major sinner's platter of dessert. I love to simmer.
B
You dirty little sicko.
C
I'm probably gonna have they make a gorgeous spagliato cocktail.
A
Ooh, and what's in there?
C
Throw back a couple of those.
A
What's in there?
C
Spagliato is a negroni, okay. But with prosecco on top. So it's like a negroni.
A
The bubbles are. The bubbles are bad.
C
I'm a bubble sinner. I really am. If you.
A
You do.
B
I know you feel about bubble, bubble, toil and trouble.
C
I'm a big bath taker. That's a big one of my sloths. I do a morning sloth. I do a morning bath sloth.
B
Just get that little piggy in there and start slothing around in the old. The old pig pen.
C
I love it.
B
Is that what we call it?
A
The.
B
Maybe we call the bath now the pig pen. We just get our slop around.
C
Around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sinners soup.
A
Any. You have any sinners soup?
C
Yeah, yeah.
B
I'm gonna get my sinner's soup.
A
You have any sins coming up?
B
Do I have any sins coming up?
C
Yeah.
B
You got to think we're going to.
A
New York City soon. New York City.
B
The city of New York City.
C
Yeah. Sin city.
B
Sin city's Vegas.
C
Okay, okay, okay. That's fair. Not mine.
B
New York City, though, is.
C
That's my.
A
Oh, man.
B
Sorry. I don't know.
A
Sorry.
B
Oh, yeah.
C
No.
B
Okay. I don't know if I actually have any sins planned, but Monday night, I. I. I could sin. You know, sometimes we can't sin. Got to be ready. Got to be, you know, of course. Ready for the camera.
C
Of course, of course.
B
But Monday night, I could sin, but it's. But I'm not gonna be able to get out of the house. I know that.
A
Oh, why? Well, listen, I live close to you. I could help you sin however you'd want to sin.
B
Thank you, brother.
A
I could bring you some sending supplies.
B
Maybe you just meet me the side of the house and we just sin for a little bit.
C
Oh, my God.
B
Just run back inside. You go back to your.
C
What's your favorite way to sin?
A
Naked.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely naked.
B
I. I would say just a. With a full, like tight, shiny leather bodysuit.
C
Yeah.
B
With certain holes.
C
Yeah, yeah. I like backless gown. Cocktail.
A
Ooh.
C
Who knows what's coming.
A
Sickos.
B
Loving it.
A
Can I say. So I've been doing this tour and I have my last big leg is this upcoming week and I have two. One off. So I have a one off in San Diego and one here in la.
B
Okay.
A
But I'm doing the west coast next week. I'm going c.
C
Yeah.
A
Then port. Port. Slend.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
Cineattle.
C
Oh yeah. I have a great hotel to send there. I have one of my favorite hotels in America.
B
That's where you sit in a hotel.
A
Van Van Sinver.
C
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
But the Vancouver show, this is like really my last show on tour because San Diego and la, I don't know if I really am counting them right shows because they're turf.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
And they're not really like I'm not on the road.
C
Yes.
A
Say yeah, that Vancouver show, I am planning on sinning like I have never sinned before. Cuz I have been working hard.
C
Yes.
A
And I am ready for my sin and my work. I'm owed my delight.
C
This is the root of sinner's delight.
B
And we want you to fucking just.
C
You get a see this coin completed.
B
Have that void filled. I did it.
A
And just I. I perform for the people.
B
Yeah. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? See, this is a big.
A
I haven't even thought too much about payoff. I might have a shot.
B
Yeah, you will. Yeah, totally, definitely will.
A
I might have some late night pizza.
B
O and maybe like a little bag with some powder in it and you putting it up your nose.
C
Depending on when you know that you're going to sin. Because I. When I finished my most recent leg, I did a morning sinners delay. I had my whole plan. Room service, pancakes and bags, bed. I saw the. I saw the ricotta pancakes on the menu. I go, that's my sinner's plate.
B
Were you able to put it were you able to put it on a little card and put it on the doorknob or did you have to.
C
They had that option. But I wanted to be free in the morning to sin exactly how I wanted. So I go, I'm sleeping, I'm waking up and I call it cappuccino. Give me the pancakes, side of sausage.
B
Were you in a Robe.
C
Yeah.
A
Ah.
C
And the woman came in, she goes, ooh, look at this. She knew I was ready to sin. And I even she knew I was ready to sin. Didn't even need to tell her I got go. Yeah. I've been looking forward to this. This morning of my pancakes.
A
You told her.
C
She goes, enjoy.
A
Yeah. She probably sees a lot of sinners.
C
I know. She goes, woman like you alone here, sinning alone.
B
Oh, you know who.
C
What a real. This is a real sinner.
B
Yeah. That's who we should have on the show. Some. Some people who work at hotels and.
A
Oh, there people have seen some sin.
B
Oh, I. I'm feeling like I need to go sin right now.
C
Honestly, you're making me want to sin. That's what's so crazy about when you start talking, there's delay.
B
It's really fun.
C
You know my favorite drinks in lately? Vesper Martini.
B
That's why I say, what's a Vesper martini? Exactly what is in it? What do you put in that?
C
So Vesper martini. You're going to see it on certain menus of people who really know that. That they love to sin.
A
Ah.
C
And it is a martini. I don't even really know what's in there. Cuz I prefer not to know. I blindfold the center for this one. There's a little San Germain or whatever, but it's so delicate, it's not sweet. It's a martini. I ordered one the other night at Safi. It's a place I love, love to sin, love. And I go, can I get a Vesper? She starts treating with kid gloves. She goes, just to make sure you're aware that's a martini. It's a dry drink.
B
She said, shut up.
C
I go, sweetheart, I haven't sinned in a long time.
B
I'm so glad you let her know.
A
Can I.
B
And honestly, for all the sinners out there, just to take Kate's lead real quick.
A
Absolutely.
B
Just don't be afraid to say, I've been sinning a long time. When you're talking to people who are.
C
Serving, it's not my first time.
B
And you're your friends, you can tell people that you're sinning. Be a proud sinner. You sick coast.
A
I. I want to. I would like to make a nomination today.
C
Yeah.
A
To our sinners hall of fame. I think the martini deserves its place.
C
Yes.
A
And what if you h. What if you were given a martini with the sidecar?
B
What if I just right back.
A
That is Cinnamon delight.
C
A little crushed ice.
B
Little.
A
And you've You've already. You've. You've almost finished your martini. Like. Oh, no, I have a little more.
B
I've got a little bucket of tea.
C
Over here ready to go.
B
Yeah.
C
That is a sinner story.
B
Really nice.
C
I. I agree with you. I think we should put it in the hall of fame. And the vesper is my new favorite way to send that one.
A
It's an all star.
C
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
A
It'll make it. Hopefully it'll make it to the hall of fame.
B
Hopefully it'll make it to the hall of fame. Yes. Hopefully it will get one. Sit with me next time you have a chance.
A
Well, it's been so great having you, Kate.
C
Oh, my God.
A
You really.
C
You've.
A
We've been trying to get. Get you on here for a long time. We know your. Your sins are legendary.
C
Oh, my God.
B
And your horns are many.
C
They are sharp.
B
Yes, yes. And tall.
A
The thing is, you've sinned before and I just know you're going to continue to sin.
B
I'm gonna delight us all. Thank you.
C
Can I say I want to sin with you guys off cam?
B
Yes. And I do. Yes. Nachos verse sin. Yes. Let's. Let's do it.
C
Burger sin.
B
And then we'll put. Put. We'll. We'll take a photo. We'll put it on the gram of the Sinner's delight Instagram account.
A
Oh, my gosh. I can't wait till the sickos get their hands on that photo. I know what you sickos are gonna do until.
B
Until next time, sickos. Stay filthy, stay nasty, be proud, goodbye.
A
Keep sinning, but remember, you're always welcome sin.
C
Hey, everybody, we're back.
B
Okay, we're back.
A
Sinners are back. The sinner that was actually just talking a little bit about some. Some more sinning off.
B
My favorite thing to talk about, it really is.
C
And this is a real sinner's delight because this is. You can't be. You can't be front facing. Oh, my credit card there. Get into the line that. That's the one they're really sinning.
B
Yeah, exactly. That's when you're really s. Back and I.
A
That is actually when you sinning in some airport lounges.
B
I've definitely. Yeah, definitely. This, this speaks to the success of the podcast that we just did. We're still. We can't stop talking.
A
Yeah, we've done. You know, people come in, they pitch us ideas for the podcast. You never know how it's going to turn out. I feel like going into sinner's Delight. I really didn't know what.
C
Me neither.
A
And now I feel like it actually part of like my f. It's like how I talk now.
B
Like I want to talk about sinning. Like, how are we going to sin tonight? I know we're bringing. I think it's back. I think after this episode it might be in the zeitgeist.
C
Look how alert I am just here just thinking about sinning, talking about it. And now I'm already thinking about. I can anticipate future sins texting you guys. I just said a big one because.
B
Isn't it a big one?
A
Isn't it? Isn't it? I know. We got to start sending pics.
B
Yeah, yeah.
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Isn't it so nice? I'll send you a pic right now. Isn't it so isn't there. The thing I really love about it.
C
Yeah.
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Is the comfort you find in like allowing yourself to be like, I sin. And like having a community of sinners like that to me is the biggest part.
C
Don't sin alone.
B
That's lifting the veil of shame. Hello.
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We're willing to like, talk about it and take joy and like, not. Yeah. Not Keep it a secret.
B
Yeah.
C
We're here to shine light on those things.
B
Literally sinners, the light.
C
And we're shining light on the city and going. We sin. If we sin, you sin. If you sin, we sin, you sin.
B
I sin. We all sin.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
It's beautiful. It's actually beautiful. It's funny sometimes, but it's actually beautiful.
C
We love to sin.
B
Yeah.
A
And we're not.
C
We're not.
A
We're not hurting. Hurting.
C
I was gonna say sin. We're not hurting. Yeah.
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Not always. Wrath. Wrath is one we don't.
C
I don't like to touch. Yeah.
B
But envy every now and then.
C
Scroll. I know, right?
A
That is. That's not sinners to me. That's not Sinner's Delight.
C
No.
B
There's no delay.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
B
That's sinner's spiral.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
We don't.
A
That's.
C
Yeah, yeah. That's fatal.
B
Well, that was a fantastic pod.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, yeah. Thank you for giving us that delight. Do you have any.
A
You wanna. You wanna promote or talk about or anything? You let the world coming down the pipeline.
B
By the way, this comes out in November.
C
Yeah, great. Stay tuned for more. Follow me and stay tuned.
B
Yeah. Stay tuned to Kate Berlant for all the stuff she has.
C
Yeah.
B
As I said, she has a lot of movies or TV shows in the pipeline.
C
You'll see me in a scene or two coming in. Yeah, check out. I have a podcast at Poog. Podcast?
B
Yeah, check out.
C
It's called Berlin and Novak now.
A
Yeah, I, I don't, I, I, like, I, I, I don't get to listen to it too often. I'm one of these consumers. The clips.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
And I hope that is okay.
C
I'm moved. No, no, the clips. It's a clip game. I mean, you see, I, it's a dirty business. You got to get the clips.
A
But your clips are fantastic.
C
Thank you so much. God bless you.
A
You guys have such a great rapport.
B
We're trying, we're trying to emulate you.
C
Two of my favorite sinners. Been sinning a long time and a lot of sins in the future.
B
To many sins in the future.
A
It is really nice to know that we're going to be sinning.
B
Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming.
C
K. Thank you.
B
So fun.
A
Take care, everybody.
B
See you later.
A
Yeah. What's our podcast is a Headgun podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.
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Date: November 19, 2025
Guest: Kate Berlant (Comedian, Actor, Writer)
In this raucous and freewheeling episode, Beck and Kyle welcome Kate Berlant for a hilarious deep-dive into sin, indulgence, and the delights of giving yourself permission to "sin" in everyday life. Still baffled about the true premise of their podcast, the hosts and guest organically develop a new concept for the show—“Sinner’s Delight”—wherein they confess lighthearted vices, celebrate the joys of letting go, and break (or at least discuss breaking) minor rules and routines. The banter covers everything from travel mishaps to comfort rituals, food sins, sleeping habits, and the broader emotional and societal weight we attach to “sin.” Throughout, Berlant’s signature wit and openness draw out surprisingly meaningful discussion on pleasure, shame, and self-acceptance, keeping the tone engaging and irreverent from beginning to end.
“We got to do away with that [hotel keycards], really.” —Kyle, (08:53), launching the recurring debate.
Kate, on being a doctor (tongue-in-cheek): “I’m certified as a family physician... I fulfilled that and then I went—I’m actually liberated from this. I don’t need to go into medicine.” (32:30)
“We all sin. And everyone... we all don’t do, like, a little confessional to our Father, but we all sin.” —Kate (69:06)
On self-forgiveness:
Kate on pleasure:
“I struggle with allowing myself to sin.” —Kyle, (78:42)
Kate on “planned sins”:
Sinner’s Hall of Fame:
Encouragement:
| Time | Segment/Snippet | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 03:58–05:55 | Opening: Stain confessions and blue humor | | 08:07–16:21 | Elevator keycard debate (recurring) | | 28:07 | Kate’s entrance—immediate comedic rapport | | 34:51 | Healthcare rant—medication costs | | 40:00+ | Kate’s Portland keycard meltdown | | 43:02–49:20| Intruder hotel & Airbnb stories | | 61:17–65:01| Formation of “Sinner’s Delight” podcast concept | | 67:47–68:52| “Forgive Me, Father...” confessional segment | | 70:02–72:22| Seven Deadly Sins quiz | | 76:45–78:13| Kate’s morning “Sinner’s Delight” ritual | | 93:13 | Nomination of the martini to Sinner’s Hall of Fame | | 96:41 | Kate: “Don’t sin alone.” Peak ethic of episode |
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