Ken Marino and David Wain Are The Purrrrfect Guests

Summary

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What's Our Podcast? with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney

Episode: Ken Marino & David Wain
Release Date: July 15, 2026
Guests: Ken Marino & David Wain
Podcast Network: Headgum

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Episode Overview

This episode features comedy legends Ken Marino and David Wain (The State, Wet Hot American Summer, Role Models) in a classic, winding, bit-heavy conversation with hosts Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney (ex-SNL, Good Neighbor). True to the show’s non-format, the group explores absurd bits (including a full-on “cat podcast”), comedic process talk, showbiz memories, and self-referential jokes. The heart of the episode is the creative partnership of Marino and Wain, their process for writing movies, their musical “dad jam band,” and their just-released film, Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. The Patreon Announcement & Show Format (00:14–03:19)

• Beck and Kyle promote their new Patreon, with bonus episodes and fan-involved features at tiered levels, including:
  • $5/month: “Sloppin Out” – extended riffing and catch-up
  • $10/month: Listener podcast pitches and “sillies” sketches
  • $15/month: Access to livestream Q&As and a “side headshot” of Beck and Kyle
• Notable riff: “We just kind of have fun and pump it out to our Rocco’s, you know what I mean?” – Beck (02:15)

2. Absurd Banter and Podcasting Meta-Jokes (04:16–10:30)

• The hosts riff on their lack of direction, loving ads more than podcasting, claiming ads are the “real” reason for the show.
• Jokes escalate to deadpan exchanges about “vodka and razor blades” in coffee, “pull my finger” burp gags, and made-up personas (“Brent Asshole” and “Dickie Weinbacher” – 10:05).
• Quote:
  “I used to do the ads for the podcast. Now I do the podcast for the ads.”
  – Beck (05:31)

3. Comedy Childhoods & Early Jokes (11:55–14:49)

• Kyle and Beck discuss kids’ humor: swapping words in songs (“Happy birthday to Boo Goo”), and Kyle’s “blue tutu at an all-girls birthday party.”
• Kyle recalls being told to start a dance show with “Good afternoon, ladies and jellybeans”—and botching it for lack of confidence.
• Reflecting on their own early bits (“go blow your nose” as Beck’s six-year-old catchphrase).
• Notable Moment: The “good afternoon, ladies and jellybeans” story (14:09–14:49).

4. Intro of Guests: Ken Marino & David Wain (15:01–19:01)

• Beck and Kyle gush over their guests’ legacy: from The State to Wet Hot American Summer, to their new film Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass, plus music as “Middle Aged Dad Jam Band.”
• Initial guest banter includes bits about sleep tracking rings, shower routines, and jokes about what constitutes being “chilling back.”
• “You look like yourselves. There’s no surprises here.” – Kyle, on seeing Ken and David, (21:37)

5. Origin Stories: Creation of The State & Comedy Trajectories (23:26–29:10)

• Ken and David recount meeting at NYU, forming the comedy troupe The State, and the “dogging under the sheets” roommate rule.
• Living five-to-a-room, snoring, and falling asleep listening to Larry King on the radio.
• The dynamics and independence of not having traditional comedy mentors, distinguishing themselves from Second City/Groundlings.

6. Writing Process & Partnership Dynamics (33:55–53:05)

• Ken and David’s creative process: using different “lenses” of life—inspired both literally (computer glasses) and metaphorically.
• Their “seven-days-to-a-first-draft” movie writing routine: “You don’t come in with a concept, you just show up and riff day one.”
• Notable for blocking off time, working distraction-free, and focusing more on collaborative energy than rigid structure.
• “We just kept coming together all the time and doing whatever it made sense.” – David Wain (49:36)
• Discussion of their movies (The Ten, Role Models, Wanderlust, and the new Gail Daughtry...) as the main products of this method.

7. Legacy & Comedy Impact (40:15–42:47)

• They discuss not feeling widespread “fame,” but recognizing cult impact: “For those who find it, it means a lot.” – David Wain
• Discussion of Wet Hot American Summer’s 25th anniversary and its re-release.

8. Middle Aged Dad Jam Band & Billy Joel Fandom (45:12–48:41)

• The “dad jam band” origin (jamming during COVID, then going on tour).
• Deep dive into Billy Joel favorites, set lists, and the “debate” among hipsters about Joel’s coolness.
• “Well, it’s because they land the sands of time,” Ken, mangling/playing with the phrase (“stand the test of time”) (48:39)

9. Showbiz Anecdotes: MTV, Commercials, and Residuals (54:16–66:07)

• Stories of memorable bits for MTV Spring Break, performing absurd “hard-on Shakespeare” for thousands of college students.
• Ken’s surreal appearance in the pre-show video for Disney’s Rockin’ Roller Coaster with Aerosmith, and later returning for the Muppets rebrand.
• Extended joke about Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy’s relationship.

10. Comedy Performance and Influences (66:08–69:49)

• Discussion of playing “jerks” on screen—being inspired by Bruce Campbell, the nuances of playing “lovable” vs. outright detestable characters.
• Referencing classic Ken moments (“He knows I’m joking”) and the creative freedom to always “just put it in” if a joke works.
• Beck relates playing similar characters himself, mutual admiration among the group.

11. Bit Segment: "Podcast" as a Cat-Themed Show (80:44–91:22)

• The group brainstorms possible “formats” for Beck and Kyle’s podcast, landing on a “podcat” (cat-themed podcast).
• [88:48] Embark on extended, fully committed cat-based improv in which they do voices, make cat puns, and riff as feline characters in a holiday setting (“Meowy Christmas”).
• “Everybody’s a little horny today. That’s the way cats are.” – Beck (90:29)

12. Fictional Cats & Sincere (Not-Bit) Favorites (100:13–104:01)

• Each pick their favorite fictional cat:
  • Kyle: Heathcliff (“I collected his books.” – Ken)
  • Beck: Mr. Mistoffeles from Cats
  • David: John Wick (“He’s a dangerous cat.”)
  • Ken: Tom (from Tom & Jerry) and the Meow Mix cat

13. Meta-Commentary, Cat Puns and Endearing Self-Doubt (107:47–109:17)

• Wrapping up “cat podcast” with increasingly groan-worthy puns: “We definitely spun an interesting tail.”
• David: “Can Ken and I come back sometime?”
• All: Mutual admiration and thanks.
• Kyle’s endearing self-doubt and Beck’s reassurance: classic closing dynamic.

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Notable Quotes

• [05:31] Beck: “I used to do the ads for the podcast. Now I do the podcast for the ads.”
• [13:00] Kyle: “My niece and nephew… got really into the name Bob. There might’ve been a longer name. ‘Bob’s coming.’”
• [21:37] Kyle: “You look like yourselves. There’s no surprises here. It’s David Wain and Ken Marino.”
• [40:39] David Wain: “For those who find it, they are very—[it] meant a lot.”
• [48:39] Ken Marino, on Billy Joel: “Well, it’s because they land the sands of time.”
• [65:44] David Wain: “Joking aside though, does something going on with him and Miss Piggy or what?”
• [71:30] Ken Marino: “What is a condenser, Mike?”
• [81:12] Kyle: “So we have two pitches here.”
• [86:15] Kyle: “Very meowy Christmas to you.”
• [90:29] Beck: “Everybody’s a little horny today. That’s the way cats are.”
• [100:13] Kyle: “It’s time of the show where we talk about our favorite iconic fictional cats...”
• [107:58] David Wain: “Well, that was an incredible exploration on cats, as it always is.”

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Timestamps for Significant Segments

• Patreon/Show Format: 00:14–03:19
• Podcast Meta-Jokes & Banter: 04:16–10:30
• Kids’ Comedy/Childhood Jokes: 11:55–14:49
• Guest Introduction: 15:01–19:01
• The State Origins/NYU: 23:26–29:10
• Writing Process/Collaborative Method: 33:55–53:05
• Middle Aged Dad Jam Band & Billy Joel: 45:12–48:41
• MTV/TV Legends/Commercials: 54:16–66:07
• 'Podcats' Segment: 80:44–91:22
• Fictional Cat Picks (Heathcliff, Mr. Mistoffeles): 100:13–104:01
• Closing/Mutual Admiration: 107:47–end

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Tone, Dynamics & Memorable Moments

• The entire episode is extremely improvisational, with bits often derailing more earnest threads—especially in the latter third (the “cat podcast” segment).
• The dynamic between Beck & Kyle remains that of friendly bickering, feigned insecurity (particularly from Kyle), and mutual adoration for their guests.
• Ken Marino and David Wain oscillate between sincere insights on process and indulgence in extended riffing and bit escalation.
• A running joke is the play between what’s “real” and what’s “bit,” with frequent “breaking” moments and clarifications.
• The meta-layer—treating the podcast as a space for testing bits, not knowing the show’s format, and poking fun at podcast tropes—infuses the entire episode.

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Overall Impression

This episode captures everything that makes What’s Our Podcast? a strange, rewarding listen: improvisational chaos, sudden meaningful reflection, guest-fueled creativity, and loving parody of both the podcast format and comedy itself. The conversation between hosts and guests is packed with quotable moments, genuine inside-baseball geekery about comedy, and ridiculous escalating bits (from legendary MTV stories to literal cat puns). For long-time fans of The State, Wet Hot American Summer, or alt-comedy in general, this is a warm celebration of the genre—and a rare, substantive peek into how classic comedy partnerships keep evolving after decades in the game.

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Transcript

[Beck Bennett]

This is a Headgun podcast.

[Kyle Mooney]

Wow.

[Rochelle]

Yay.

[Beck Bennett]

Another episode of what's our Podcast. But first, a little special announcement from Becky and Kyle.

[Kyle Mooney]

This is very big. This is.

[Beck Bennett]

It's very huge and big.

[Kyle Mooney]

I think this is life changing for me.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. That's the way I feel. As long as it goes well.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, even if it doesn't, it is altering my life.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, it already has.

[Kyle Mooney]

The big announcement is we are starting a patreon.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. You're saying to yourself, oh, yes, it was.

[Kyle Mooney]

You know, it was a risk. It was a swing to even start a podcast together back.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes, it was.

[Kyle Mooney]

We didn't know what it is. We still are finding out what it is every single week when we come together with our guests and when you and I sort of mess around on the microphone.

[Beck Bennett]

Let's tell them what it is. For the first tier, Rocco Basics here.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's five bucks a month. You're gonna get a bonus episode every week. No guest. Okay. It's just Beck and I doing what we've been doing Since September of 2003 when we first met each other.

[Beck Bennett]

For that tier, we have Sloppin out, which is just the two of us hanging out with each other.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's like our intro to our show.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, but it's longer. We can go into bits longer.

[Kyle Mooney]

We can also be earnest. Learn about each other's lives.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. Catch up for longer. Or we also have what's yous Podcast, where we take ideas from our Patreon members at a certain tier. At the $10 tier, which is the next tier. We take your ideas and we try that podcast out. Right, but you can pitch those ideas at $10 tier.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes. For 10. Once you get to the $10 tier, premium rock, which we're calling Rocco Premium.

[Beck Bennett]

Rocco Premium.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's where you actually get to pitch the ideas that we will do on our podcast. You're also going to get access to an exclusive chat. A chat room.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

The Discord. The Rocco Discord, where you can talk with other fans, other listeners. Probably kind of make do your own little bits. Make some friends. Maybe. Maybe you can grab. Grab dinner or coffee with one of them sometime.

[Beck Bennett]

Also with the $10 tier, you get access to, you get to see our. What we're calling our sillies. Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

These are little videos. You know, we came up making videos together, full circle. Because now you and I are just gonna make a little video we already started. Get a little iPhone, make a little video, play some characters, do some bits.

[Beck Bennett]

Just come up with an idea and pop it right off and just shoot it.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, we don't need to labor over it.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, exactly. We just kind of have fun and pump it out to our Rocco's. You know what I mean?

[Kyle Mooney]

I know exactly what you mean, and I love it.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

For 15 bucks, you get all that stuff, plus you get free access to our new ticketed livestream. So, like, we will talk to you directly. You can ask us questions. We'll be doing these quarterly throughout the year.

[Beck Bennett]

We might do poppers there. We don't know yet. It's only gonna be legal stuff.

[Ken Marino]

But we're gonna have fun.

[Kyle Mooney]

We have to do poppers.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. And here's the thing. For Rocket supreme, if you sign up for a full year, you'll get a side headshot of me and Kyle. Yeah, we don't know, but it's going to be an amazing family heirloom that you get and you can, you know, frame it and put above the fireplace or something. Or something like that.

[Kyle Mooney]

It is really going to be fun. I think it's going to be a place to see some really weird, wild, and crazy stuff where we just get

[Beck Bennett]

to do whatever we want without really caring. So. Yeah. So go to patreon.com what's our podcast? And join today, please.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's patreon.com what's our Podcast? And be in the Rocco Club with all your fellow Roccos.

[Beck Bennett]

Hi, rockos.

[Kyle Mooney]

This is JaneWickline.

[Rochelle]

Kyle and Beck have very kindly allowed

[David Wain]

me to come on here to tell

[Kyle Mooney]

you about the upcoming run of my

[Rochelle]

Off Broadway show in New York. I think they feel a certain fondness

[Kyle Mooney]

for me because I'm SNL's current freak that gets cut for time.

[Rochelle]

Anyway, it's a musical comedy show that

[Kyle Mooney]

I perform with comedian Leva Pierce.

[Rochelle]

It's called Dukes, and it's about friendship, desire, and beautiful women. And tickets are [e-mail].

[Kyle Mooney]

hope to see you there. All right, back to you, Kyle and Beck.

[Beck Bennett]

What's Our Podcast? What's it gonna be all about? Tell us what's our Podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? Well, that's the sound of what's Our Podcast starting. It's what's yous Podcast with Beck, Ben and Kyle Mooney and me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

I'm about to do my podcast.

[Beck Bennett]

Wow. Yes. Dude. Did you. Did you come?

[Rochelle]

Did you.

[Beck Bennett]

Complete podcast. Did you come? Did you. Did you.

[Kyle Mooney]

I look forward to this every moment of my life. I. I'm like, so.

[Beck Bennett]

Every moment of your life, you're just like, oh, I can't wait to get

[Kyle Mooney]

back in the podcast. I've got. I've got something interesting to say.

[David Wain]

I've got.

[Kyle Mooney]

I want to interview with somebody. I want to hang out with Beck. I want to say what's up? That's always.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, you can't. You can't wait to go. Can you give it? Can you throw it? Can you say what's up To Rochelle?

[Kyle Mooney]

Hi, Michelle. I need a podcast.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. I thought you were going to do more like, what's up, Rochelle? Kind of like that.

[Kyle Mooney]

This is exactly what I love.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, it is pretty amazing. It's just like, what a gift, you know, the fact that to get to play together like little. Like little boys.

[Kyle Mooney]

Head gum has been such an incredible.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, God, Headgum. Yes. What an incredible creative partner.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I gotta shout out everybody.

[Beck Bennett]

Don't forget about gumball. The advertising side.

[David Wain]

Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

I was just gonna say that Everybody do the ads for. I love reading the ads and letting people know, like, there's a good deal here.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I do remember. Go ahead, you go first.

[Beck Bennett]

I was. I was just gonna say. I was gonna say, like, I used to do the ads for the podcast. Now I do the podcast for the ads. You know what I mean? Like, I look forward to the ads, and that's kind of why we. I feel like I do the podcast is so that I can do the ads.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, I thought it was. Yeah, same same way.

[Beck Bennett]

Exactly. I think that's most people.

[Kyle Mooney]

I believe so. I believe I read that recently.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, well, yeah, I think there is an article. I don't think you have to read it. It's just kind of like a. It's like a common thing. It's like most podcasters do their podcast so that they can deliver the good deals.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes. Well, I mean, it just makes sense.

[Beck Bennett]

I mean, like, I don't know. You don't even have to read it.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, yeah, but I read a lot, so it just.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

One of the things that came. Came through on my.

[Beck Bennett]

I don't know, on your feed. I don't know if, like, reading the subtitles on videos on, like, an Instagram feed is considered reading. Like when you say I read a lot.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, wow, that was. Man, that was cool.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Sorry. Well, come on, man. We got people want to see us. What's that?

[Kyle Mooney]

What do you have in that coffee? Because I think it's a little.

[Beck Bennett]

I'm wondering. Vodka and razor blades.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's okay. Okay. You watch out, mister, because when you least expect it.

[Beck Bennett]

No, no, I know. No, no, don't do that. Don't. Don't give it to me. Please don't give it to me. You said you. You were like. So you look forward to this every waking moment of your day.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

And you. Because you said you had something interesting to say.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, what do you have to say today, Kyle? What do you have. What do you have to say for yourself, Kyle James Kozab Mooney?

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, I've been thinking a lot about sort of the state of where we're. Where we're at in the world.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I think I have a way to fix it.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, great. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

But let's get into the amazing.

[Beck Bennett]

No, no. That's such a cliffhanger, dude. You have an amazing way to this. Fix the state of the world.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, let's just say it real quick. Give it like an elevator pitch.

[Kyle Mooney]

More water, more food for everybody.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, for everybody. Because I feel like a lot of people don't. Don't need more food. I think. I think it's a. I think it's a little bit more complicated than that. I think there is the availability of

[Kyle Mooney]

the food if you want it, if you.

[Beck Bennett]

If you need it, and to get it for free.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

I think that's a really good idea, Kyle. And I think maybe you should use some of your celebrity power to go to the, you know, the court, you know, go to the. Go to the grocery store. To go to the grocery store.

[Kyle Mooney]

Pick it all out.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. And put it out on the side of the road. Just go. Just see what happens. Go to a grocery store, buy all the water and the food, and just put it out on the road.

[Rochelle]

Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

See what happens.

[Kyle Mooney]

No signs.

[Beck Bennett]

No signs. Just put it out on. On the gram. Be like, hey, it's me, Kyle. I'm doing a test.

[Kyle Mooney]

If you find the spoon or the version.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Of my save the world program. Yeah. It's just out here for free.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

And let's see what happens. Rochelle, can we arrange that with the headgum folks and get gumball involved?

[Kyle Mooney]

Do you get a company credit card? I do. When do you have a max?

[Beck Bennett]

We don't have one.

[Kyle Mooney]

I do have a max. I think it's three. Three thousand a day. Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Dude, are you going. Are you burning through that budget daily?

[Kyle Mooney]

Hang on. I gotta do some quick math.

[Beck Bennett]

Do some quick math, somebody. So Rochelle is allowed to spend and Kyle's math. Doing the math.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay. We're talking 3,000 times 365 days in a year.

[Beck Bennett]

It's got to be right.

[Kyle Mooney]

So you. You have a million A million dollars in 95,000.

[Beck Bennett]

I think headgum is kind of doing the. Somebody's doing the budget wrong. I don't think you should have $3,000 a day to just spend however you want.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, that's the limit of the card Total. Total.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, every billing cycle.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

That's $36,000 a year for Spindrift.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's not bad.

[Ken Marino]

It's not. It's not the mil.

[Kyle Mooney]

Not a million.

[Beck Bennett]

Not a million. But that's. That's still. That's still really cool, Rochelle. And it's good for us to know about, too. Wink, wink, Kyle, get a little.

[Ken Marino]

Well, that.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, wait.

[Beck Bennett]

Wink, wink.

[Kyle Mooney]

What, you want me to pay you more?

[Beck Bennett]

No, no. Like, you know, like, if we're looking for. If we're looking to buy something.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, sometimes I'll ask Rochelle for a smoothie.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, that's true.

[Kyle Mooney]

I bet that's paid by that card.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

So you were about to say something amazing.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes. Pull this.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, your finger. Okay. You're extending your finger, and I'm gonna pull that. Oh, and you burped. Okay, that is disgusting.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, we have some. Well, welcome to what's our podcast? My name is.

[Beck Bennett]

I think I already said this.

[Kyle Mooney]

Brent Aller.

[Beck Bennett]

Brent Asshole. And I'm over here, Dickie Weinbacher.

[Kyle Mooney]

And together we're the Trade. The Trade Boys.

[Beck Bennett]

The Trade Boys. Okay. Yeah, I'm being random.

[Ken Marino]

I'm being random.

[Beck Bennett]

Sauce.

[Kyle Mooney]

I'm being random Sauce.

[Beck Bennett]

Um, no, but what's up? It is. What's our podcast? Let's just say who our. Our guests. Guests are. Cause I don't think I have anything else. Amazing.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, I have one thing I want to bring up.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, Lay it on, Lay it on, lay it on.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, first of all, don't Forget our Patreon. Www.patreon.com. what's our podcast? Where if you think this is random or weird. Oh, great. They're talking super loud in the studio

[Beck Bennett]

next door to us, but they can't hear it. The audience can't hear it.

[Kyle Mooney]

Amazing. We get to hear them talk about. That's so fucking fun.

[Ken Marino]

Yay.

[Kyle Mooney]

What else do you want to talk about?

[Ken Marino]

Sorry.

[Beck Bennett]

I know that. I love that Kyle. Sass. I love it when the sass comes out. Be careful. You do not want to get in the crosshairs.

[Kyle Mooney]

You fucking piece. I'm trying to do a show. I'm here with one of the most popular American comedians.

[Beck Bennett]

Thank you.

[Kyle Mooney]

And one of the most brilliant podcast director producers. You do that on my fucking pod like Outside of my fucking podcast.

[Beck Bennett]

I know.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's such fucking bullshit.

[Beck Bennett]

I love it when this side of you comes out and you're just, like, so confrontational and saying exactly what you want to say and not holding back at all.

[Kyle Mooney]

Really?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. I think it's sexy. Really? Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Rochelle, we might need.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay. Heated rivalry much?

[Rochelle]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Wear the hockey sticks.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

You know, bring out the hockey sticks and the hockey pucks, and we start going to town on each other or something. I don't know. I haven't seen the series, but

[David Wain]

does

[Kyle Mooney]

your kid do this?

[Beck Bennett]

What?

[Kyle Mooney]

This is something that I think is, like, pretty ubiquitous. I think it's classic kid.

[Beck Bennett]

We'll see my child.

[Kyle Mooney]

Her, like, main form of joking is replacing a word. Like, so it'll be like, you know, instead of happy birthday to you.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

You know the happy birthday to Boo Goo.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Boo Goo. Yeah. Bowie, Boygo or, like, making up some.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Some. Yeah. Some jokes.

[Kyle Mooney]

How funny do you think it is?

[Beck Bennett]

Not very funny. Yeah. I. But. But Ruby's been. He's been really obsessed with trying to figure out what makes people laugh. He likes. Since he likes saying, do the Moosey paddle. Something from Wild Krauts, and he tries to insert it in things, and I've told him, you got it. You got to surprise us. Insert it in areas where it would. You wouldn't expect it. So, like, if I ask you what's for dinner? You say, or what you want for dinner, you could say, I was thinking about having the Moosey paddle, which, like, he surprised us a couple times out of nowhere with that, and it's been funny. But then he'll do it again, and we'll be like, that's not funny.

[Ken Marino]

Sorry.

[Kyle Mooney]

Right.

[Beck Bennett]

It's just not making me laugh.

[Kyle Mooney]

I remember my niece and nephew. One I think is either either one of them or both of them got really into the name Bob. There might have been a longer name.

[Beck Bennett]

That's funny.

[Kyle Mooney]

Bob's coming.

[Beck Bennett]

That's funny.

[Kyle Mooney]

And you. And I'm sure I may have mentioned on the podcast, but there was a kid getting laughs in elementary school. His whole thing was always like, you so. Wine.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, that's tight. I. I used to say, oh, go blow your nose. That was kind of my, like, catchphrase that I don't think anybody remembered except for me.

[Rochelle]

Right.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. I thought it was pretty smart. Six.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

When I was about five or six, last thing I had to. I went to my neighbor's birthday party. She was my best friend, and it was like a dance birthday party. But it was all girls and me. So it was like probably like five girls and me.

[Beck Bennett]

Nice.

[Kyle Mooney]

And wore a blue tutu. They wore pink tutus.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I wasn't ready to be comfortable in that situation.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. The Bluetooth, just like the fact that

[Kyle Mooney]

it was like, it felt like. It didn't feel like boys. Like the stereotypical version of boys stuff like playing ball or whatever.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I never really danced. The instructor told us like, you're. She's like, to me, you're gonna be introducing the show. And she's like, here's what you say. You say good. You said, good afternoon, ladies and jellybeans. And I didn't understand it because I was like, well, no, it's supposed to be gentlemen. And she's like, no, it'll be funny. People will laugh, they'll hear. Good afternoon, ladies and jelly beans.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Kind of like your daughter's joke.

[David Wain]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

Like the replacing something.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I was like, okay, got it. And then I remember, like the time came for me to perform and I introduced the rest of the dancers like, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

[Beck Bennett]

But did you like forget and then you were expecting laugh, but you forgot that you. I forgot.

[Kyle Mooney]

And then after I realized.

[Beck Bennett]

And you didn't get a laugh, did you?

[Kyle Mooney]

No.

[Beck Bennett]

That's horrifying.

[Kyle Mooney]

We got great guests. We got comedy legends.

[Beck Bennett]

Comedy legends. Ken Marino and David Wayne of the

[Kyle Mooney]

State of the State and numerous movies, television series.

[Beck Bennett]

They've written many movies together, including Role models, wanderlust the 10 and now their new movie Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass.

[Kyle Mooney]

They're also in the middle aged dad Jam band.

[Beck Bennett]

Dad jam band. Yes. They jam around town. And they also. What else? David Wayne. You got Stella, Ken Marino. Many incredible acting roles over the years.

[Kyle Mooney]

Party down.

[Beck Bennett]

Party down. The other two, I'll probably tell him. But his performance in Wanderlust, Paul Rudd's shithead brother, is like, to me one of the best like performances in film and television I've ever seen. Let's bring in our amazing guests. I think we're going to. I really hope we're going to have an amazing time.

[Kyle Mooney]

David Wayne and Ken Marino.

[Beck Bennett]

Ken Marino and Bennett and Kyle Mooney. So.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, wow. That's kind of cool.

[Beck Bennett]

So let's see what happens when we get them all. Have you ever had a thought that just wouldn't leave you alone? I have something weird or dark or completely out of character that your brain kept throwing at you no matter what you did to try to feel better.

[Kyle Mooney]

Get in a loop and you're just like I keep on seeing the same thing over and over and over and over again, over and over again.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. So that has happened to you, brother.

[Kyle Mooney]

I have. I have obsessive tendencies.

[Beck Bennett]

Unwanted, intrusive, distressing thoughts that often get stuck in your mind. They tend to latch onto the things you care about most, which can bring up a lot of guilt and shame when you feel driven to do certain behaviors to try to make those thoughts stop, even though that's not possible. But OCD is one of the most treatable mental health conditions out there. If you get the right kind of specialized therapy, OCD needs erp, or exposure and response prevention, which is proven to be the most effective treatment.

[Kyle Mooney]

And that is where NOCD comes in, because this is something they can help with. NOCD is the world's leading provider of OCD treatment and all of their licensed therapists specialize in ERP therapy. I. And I have.

[Beck Bennett]

I have used this and was it helpful?

[Kyle Mooney]

It was very helpful.

[Beck Bennett]

That's great. Yeah, that's amazing. OCD is often improperly treated, but NO CD therapists go through extensive training led by leading experts in ocd, so they know exactly what to look for and how to help. Therapy with no CD is 100% virtual and covered by insurance for over 138 million Americans. It also includes support between sessions, so you're never facing OCD alone.

[Kyle Mooney]

To learn more about starting OCD therapy with OCD, visit nocd.com and book a free 15 minute call with their team. That's nocd.com.

[Beck Bennett]

hi, I'm Beck Bennett.

[Kyle Mooney]

I thought I was Beck Bennett.

[Beck Bennett]

No, no, no, no.

[Kyle Mooney]

Kyle Mooney.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. Sorry about that.

[Ken Marino]

All good.

[Beck Bennett]

All good.

[Kyle Mooney]

Thanks, buddy.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. And we host the show what's our podcast here on Headgum.

[Kyle Mooney]

This podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all in one website platform designed to help you stand out and make you look like a kick ass person online.

[Beck Bennett]

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[Kyle Mooney]

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[Beck Bennett]

I like that it's all in one place. I don't. I like that I don't have to go around, you know, like different stores or something.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's just all, well, it's like, oh, do I need to go to like a. Do I need another type of website to, like, find the right pictures or like another type of website to upload?

[Beck Bennett]

You know, it's all in one place.

[Kyle Mooney]

The video or the audio or like.

[David Wain]

No, I want it.

[Rochelle]

Makes it easy.

[Kyle Mooney]

Make it easy on me, please.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. And you can do all those things. Photos, videos, changing fonts, you know, I mean, the designs are amazing. They're catering to all your different needs. There are SEO tools, which. I know what those are. And their custom domains.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, let's come up with a domain right now. I wonder if it exists.

[Beck Bennett]

Www.friends meeting friends.

[Kyle Mooney]

Friends meeting friends.com that's an original thing

[Beck Bennett]

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[Rochelle]

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[Beck Bennett]

So may I ask you a question? May he ask you a question?

[Ken Marino]

David, may I ask you a question?

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't.

[Beck Bennett]

I'm not in either way.

[Kyle Mooney]

It doesn't matter to us. You don't need to. Can't ask you a question.

[David Wain]

I don't know what to do.

[Kyle Mooney]

I think it's a sort of yes or no scenario.

[Beck Bennett]

I think I'm gonna say yes. Why don't you? Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

You've been wearing this ring for how long?

[David Wain]

24 hours.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, that's it?

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, it's brand new.

[Ken Marino]

So how did you sleep last night?

[David Wain]

Poorly. I mean, I slept.

[Ken Marino]

What did I say?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Yeah. What's the data?

[David Wain]

Okay. But I only slept five and a half hours, which is not enough. And I also had. I only had like 15 minutes of REM. Of REM sleep and only like 40 minutes of deep sleep.

[Beck Bennett]

Ooh, that's you and you. And you're gonna want at least numbers an hour or two. Right. Of the ranch.

[David Wain]

I'm not asking anyone else to do this.

[Ken Marino]

I don't know. Yeah, I want to because I want to know the value of you turn on this ring that you have on.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Well, there's.

[Ken Marino]

By the way, it looks really.

[David Wain]

First of all. First of all, I resisted for a long time. Super cool. And a friend of mine has been Doing it for a long time, and she finally convinced me to do it. And then I'm going to give it a shot. It's probably not forever, okay? Leave me alone.

[Beck Bennett]

No, you can do it forever. I mean, like, it's fine if it's forever.

[Ken Marino]

He's bearing the lead. Who's this lady?

[David Wain]

Leave me alone, you guys.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, okay. It's us. We're. It's him. I mean, we're fine. We didn't. We're not pushing on the lady.

[Ken Marino]

He's all right. Yeah, they're fine.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, we're fine.

[Ken Marino]

It's this guy.

[Beck Bennett]

It's that right over there.

[Kyle Mooney]

You're coy now.

[Ken Marino]

He's shy.

[Beck Bennett]

He's shy.

[Ken Marino]

You're right.

[David Wain]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay. He likes it. He's shy. He's not. Some people are shy and they're like, not comfortable. Talk to me. You're comfortable with being shy on some more questions, but I'm using it as a little weapon.

[Ken Marino]

It's adorable.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, it's really adorable. It's. It's really adorable to have you both here on this couch. It really is. You guys are. You guys are. You guys look really good.

[Ken Marino]

Right back.

[Beck Bennett]

Honestly, you do. You guys look fantastic.

[Kyle Mooney]

And you know what? You look like? You look like yourselves. There's no surprises here. It's David Wayne and Ken Marino.

[David Wain]

Right. You thought we would come in here and it would be like, oh, those guys have had a lot of work done.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Because, you know, like, sometimes you can. You can't tell the work in a photo. You're like, they look good. And then you see them in real life. You can see the little stitches marks and everything like that.

[Ken Marino]

Which, you know, hey, whatever gets you through the night.

[Beck Bennett]

Well, absolutely.

[David Wain]

I'll tell you something that I didn't. That I told Ken privately, but now I'm going to say it publicly to you and anyone listening. Yeah, I meant to, but did not take a shower before. Coming here isn't interesting.

[Ken Marino]

Which is another reason I appreciate this little space here.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Because we all know if you don't take a shower, you stink like shit.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, yeah.

[David Wain]

Well, not me.

[Beck Bennett]

I mean, like, yeah, I can't smell you, but, like, to me, you're not

[Kyle Mooney]

giving off, like, non shower energy. You very well could have taken it.

[David Wain]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Kyle Mooney]

Absolutely.

[David Wain]

I did take a bath last night. It was great.

[Beck Bennett]

Wow.

[Ken Marino]

Like, what makes it great?

[David Wain]

I had this new kind of, you know, stuff that I put in the bath that gives it. That made it therapeutic, like Epsom salt. Epsom salt based. And then I. I also. I tried taking melatonin for the first time in my life in the tub right before.

[Ken Marino]

Okay.

[David Wain]

It was great.

[Ken Marino]

And did you fall asleep in the tub?

[David Wain]

Yeah. Let's start.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, let's start. Let's get it started.

[David Wain]

Let's start rolling just for me.

[Beck Bennett]

When I take a bath, I don't like to see my. My body. I like bubbles. Okay, so let's start.

[Ken Marino]

Okay, we started.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, yeah. No, I think we did start.

[David Wain]

And action.

[Kyle Mooney]

I mean, we did. We did technically start, but if there's any of the stuff you don't want in there, if you don't want to talk about so much about the Oura

[David Wain]

ring, I knew we had started.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, fuck, dude, he's. He's fucking with you, dude.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's like that old school shit, you know?

[David Wain]

It is experience. Been around the block.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Yeah. You guys have been around the block a couple times.

[Kyle Mooney]

You guys used to be. We were in the state, right?

[David Wain]

Yeah, the state was our NYU comedy troop.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. A lot of. Lot of people in that group. How many did it start?

[Ken Marino]

So, sorry, when you said, are you in the state? Do we need to, like, hold for applause for the. I don't know how podcasts work, but do. Do we just hold the audience?

[David Wain]

The audience is in that other room over there.

[Ken Marino]

And now if they. But we have to hold.

[David Wain]

Well, yeah, they choose to applaud. You'll hear it.

[Ken Marino]

Okay, great.

[Beck Bennett]

You. And you can. You can. But also if you don't hear it, then you can. You can also hold if you want. Okay.

[Ken Marino]

I'm gonna just hope for certain lines and things.

[Kyle Mooney]

Do you want another people?

[Beck Bennett]

Because when they're listening on the podcast, they might be laughing so hard or something or clapping that they aren't able to hear.

[Kyle Mooney]

Do we want a second attempt at it here just so you can give them their space?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, let's see what that looks like.

[Kyle Mooney]

We have time now. You guys were in the state, right?

[Ken Marino]

Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

Thank you.

[Ken Marino]

No, when would the applause come in?

[David Wain]

It's really not the answer or after we answer?

[Kyle Mooney]

You guys are in the state, right? Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

All right.

[Ken Marino]

Can we do it one more time, guys?

[David Wain]

It's really not necessary.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay. Okay, now. Oh, fuck. You guys are in the state, right?

[Ken Marino]

Well, we were working on something. You're.

[David Wain]

You're sorry.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, I didn't hear what you said.

[David Wain]

You guys do. I think you guys have a good bit of some sort, and I'm just going to.

[Ken Marino]

I thought you were part of.

[David Wain]

No, I'm going to chill back because I think it's probably really good.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, why don't you chill?

[Kyle Mooney]

I'm so.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, why don't you chill?

[Ken Marino]

Hey, man, I'm going to chill back on this one.

[Beck Bennett]

No, no, there really is.

[Kyle Mooney]

So, I mean, I wonder how many interviews you guys step into and I sort of have to be like kind of bombarded with the sort of like, you guys are icons, you are, you're legends, etc, etc.

[David Wain]

Forget interviews. Just walking down the street anywhere all the time. Like nothing but. Nothing but.

[Beck Bennett]

Nothing but icons everywhere you go.

[David Wain]

Not for me. I do not. I don't. I. No, no. I mean, yeah, but I, I figure

[Ken Marino]

it's because most people are chilling back.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, most.

[Kyle Mooney]

You know what I mean?

[Ken Marino]

Like, it's like they don't want to say anything because they're chilling back.

[David Wain]

We actually went to Tokyo with our families. A coup. And the people in the, on the streets in Japan were so cool. Just like leaving us alone, like, not.

[Beck Bennett]

They didn't come up to you at all. That's great. That's great. They were, they were chilling back.

[David Wain]

They were like being respectful that it was our family time.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Wain]

Not at all.

[Ken Marino]

But that's Japanese culture right now.

[Kyle Mooney]

When you go to a place like New York City.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

I'll tell you, different animals must be all over you.

[Ken Marino]

Well, first of all, everybody talks different. It's like you got, Everybody got that New York accent, right?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Ken Marino]

You know, sort of like, hey, new. You know, like, hey, get out of my way. You know, and I thought, I thought

[Beck Bennett]

they talk that way in Tokyo.

[Ken Marino]

Not so much. Yeah, I mean, I mean, there are New Yorkers there.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

[David Wain]

Ken's on TV a lot. He's a more of a famous actor. Yes, I know that. I will. I'm A plus. Yeah. I'm an unknown person behind the scenes person. Unless I go into like a certain kind of coffee shop where there's guys with beards in their 40s and 50s and then, then I know I'm become a celebrity.

[Beck Bennett]

Coffee shops are often. I do.

[Ken Marino]

Riddled with beards.

[Beck Bennett]

Riddled with beards and comedy fans.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

If you go into, if you go into a, if you've been in a sketch group and have stuff out there, you go into a coffee place and you're going to, you're going to get,

[David Wain]

you might get it. You might get a free coffee.

[Beck Bennett]

You might get a free coffee.

[David Wain]

Which is really why I go all the time. Just hoping.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Hoping against.

[Beck Bennett]

Hey, look at me.

[Kyle Mooney]

Is nice.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

It has American summer Here's a cappuccino.

[Beck Bennett]

Wet Hot American Summer. You guys. That's classic.

[Kyle Mooney]

You guys remember that?

[Beck Bennett]

You guys remember that?

[David Wain]

That movie is celebrating its 25th anniversary this summer.

[Beck Bennett]

Wow.

[David Wain]

And so we're doing a bunch of stuff around that. And it's. It's.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's so fun.

[David Wain]

They're also, I think, possibly going to re release it in theaters this.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, wow.

[Ken Marino]

Wow.

[Kyle Mooney]

I feel like. I think you may have shown me Red Hot Americans sound really. In the dorms of our college.

[David Wain]

What was your college?

[Kyle Mooney]

We went to usc.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

And you both went to nyu and

[Beck Bennett]

you guys met in college and formed a comedy group. We did the same thing.

[Kyle Mooney]

The new group.

[Ken Marino]

We met. Your group is awesome. We met the first day of college.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's so amazing.

[Ken Marino]

I went down and David and Craig Weddron, who did the music for the state and everything else we've ever been involved in. Wet Hot American Summer and the Gail Daughtry movie that we did, that's coming out right now. And I went down and met David and Craig my first day because a guy I went to high school with was their roommate. And then I wound up hanging out with David and Craig.

[David Wain]

When we met, he said, nice to meet you. I got one rule. When your dog and a. In the room, do it under the sheets.

[Beck Bennett]

Whoa. I don't know.

[Ken Marino]

I can't.

[Beck Bennett]

I mean, he's a buddy of yours.

[Ken Marino]

You don't have to bleep out his name now.

[David Wain]

Because you don't have to.

[Beck Bennett]

I think that's cool.

[Kyle Mooney]

When you're. That's good. I'm trying to do the math on what this means one more time. When you're.

[David Wain]

I guess dogging a means having sex with a young lady.

[Kyle Mooney]

When you're dogging a. Dogging. And then what do you do?

[David Wain]

Do it under the sheets. Because he's. There's one. There's two beds in one room. He doesn't want to have to watch it.

[Kyle Mooney]

I see. So if it's okay, he's cool with it in the same room. He just.

[David Wain]

It was before the advent, like the. The widespread use of sleep masks.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

Sleep masks. Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

I think that's one of the reasons all of a sudden, you know, there was.

[Beck Bennett]

Sleep masks came to be because of

[Ken Marino]

all the guys having sex with other people under the sheets.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh. Or maybe over the sheets. Right. And they were like, we need to solve this problem.

[David Wain]

The next sleep. The second year at nyu, and we'll go through this day by day, year by year, for sure.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, great.

[David Wain]

But the second year at nyu. We lived in a room with five people all in one room. And so they. And everybody snored. Were you in that room?

[Ken Marino]

I was. And then listen to Larry King.

[David Wain]

Right. I would. I blasted Larry King on my headphones. It was on the radio every night so that I could fall asleep because everyone else was snoring.

[Ken Marino]

The radio was a thing before. Way before podcasts.

[Beck Bennett]

I. I don't even.

[Ken Marino]

No, no, we sort of, like.

[Kyle Mooney]

Because we used to have the. Because we used to have the radios in the cars.

[Ken Marino]

You had radios and you always.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay, well, my dad did.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. Your dad, sure.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ken Marino]

What'd you listen to? AM or fm.

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't remember what that. Shit. I don't know what that is.

[Beck Bennett]

It's different kinds of radios.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, that's. That's amazing.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, it's really funny.

[Kyle Mooney]

I was wondering. Forgive me for using this as a. As a tool of research.

[David Wain]

Pre forgiven without even knowing what it is.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay, great. On, I believe, Ken, on your Wikipedia and on the notes that we were given by our producer, it talks about you all meeting at nyu and it mentions, Ken, you having a.

[Beck Bennett]

That's it.

[Kyle Mooney]

You having milk carton. Milk crates.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Full of booze from that you took from a yacht. That was a thousand.

[Ken Marino]

So I worked at a yacht club during the summer before college because I went to. Because I was like, I want to be an actor. And I went to, like, a mixology school in high school. I was like, I'm gonna be an actor in New York. I gotta be a bartender.

[Rochelle]

Right?

[Ken Marino]

So I. So I learned how to mix drinks. I took some stupid course, and so then I used that to get a job at a yacht club. And when I was at that yacht club, I just came across all these bottles of alcohol that then I brought to college.

[Kyle Mooney]

And that, like, helped in Grace.

[Beck Bennett]

You'd bring it around and be like,

[Ken Marino]

yeah, like, hey, anybody want to. You know, it'd be a grasshopper.

[Beck Bennett]

A little bit of a. I'm gonna dip my balls energy.

[Ken Marino]

A little bit.

[Beck Bennett]

A little bit going around people. Like,

[David Wain]

remember you played that bartender in the Wet hot American summer. 10 years later. I don't know if you remember. It was like, you're jumping on the bar and doing.

[Ken Marino]

Now that you say it, I remember it.

[David Wain]

But did you know that I was just wondering if. Do yachts, the boats themselves have their own club where they hang out?

[Beck Bennett]

The boats.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, like a yacht. Like, sort of like cars, like the movie Cars? If not, I feel like we should all. I think the four of us because

[Beck Bennett]

they tried it with the boats, air, the planes, you know, See, it didn't. It didn't go well. They should do yacht club.

[Ken Marino]

Yacht club.

[Beck Bennett]

I also worked at a yacht club a summer.

[Ken Marino]

All the yachts from old money. Right, right. Just like that.

[David Wain]

Where was your yacht club?

[Beck Bennett]

It was the Chicago Yacht Club.

[David Wain]

Are you from Chicago?

[Beck Bennett]

I am from this north suburbs of Chicago. What? Yes. Yes. Can you believe it? Will Matt and Winneca. Yeah. And you're from Shaker Heights.

[Rochelle]

That's it.

[Beck Bennett]

That. That's right.

[Ken Marino]

Ohio. Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

What?

[David Wain]

Yes, I was in Chicago a long time a year and a half ago doing Mr. Throwback show with Steph Curry was awesome.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Good town.

[Beck Bennett]

Great town. Was that the most time you spent in Chicago?

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay. Wearing this. That's a cool box.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

See? Yeah, that's.

[Ken Marino]

That's you.

[Beck Bennett]

You should be on camera more, the way you're handling. Just putting a little button on things.

[David Wain]

Boom.

[Beck Bennett]

That's fantastic. That's great.

[Ken Marino]

Threw that. Ready?

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, do you guys. Do you guys remember. Was there a specific thing that you guys connected over when you guys met in college or was like, oh, this guy.

[David Wain]

I didn't even say the thing about my glasses yet.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, yeah. Oh, right, right. Okay. So for everybody listening.

[Ken Marino]

No, let's. Yeah, I mean, let's stop that question and get back. Let's.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, we don't even need to.

[Ken Marino]

No, but hold. Put a pin in that.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, I'm gonna put a picture.

[Ken Marino]

You hear this?

[David Wain]

I recently.

[Beck Bennett]

This is about. This is about David's glasses that he's wearing on his face right now just

[David Wain]

for marking it for the editor. Good. Yeah. So I got special glasses just recently just for using the computer, and they only let me see about this far away. I was so disorganized that I ran out of the house wearing those.

[Beck Bennett]

These.

[David Wain]

So I'm not wearing the right glasses

[Kyle Mooney]

because I was like, those are your normal glasses.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Rochelle]

So what?

[David Wain]

I had a feeling. And you took the hook, line and sinker. You thought that what came.

[Ken Marino]

You really do got to let them up the hook.

[Rochelle]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

No, these are my computer glasses.

[Beck Bennett]

So do you. Are you just seeing computers right now

[David Wain]

or what do you see? I see everything.

[Beck Bennett]

You see everything.

[David Wain]

Totally.

[Ken Marino]

What does that mean? What does that mean?

[David Wain]

It's just not ideal.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay.

[David Wain]

Isn't that funny?

[Beck Bennett]

That is hilarious.

[David Wain]

They're designed to mainly look at a screen about this far away. So you. I see fine. But not perfect.

[Beck Bennett]

Right, Right. We're people. We're a little bit further away.

[Ken Marino]

As opposed to your other glasses.

[David Wain]

Well, I would see you better.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

Because I'm just imagining, oh, he's wearing his normal glasses, he's walking and he's about to do the podcast.

[David Wain]

Yeah. Hey, I walk in, it's like, oh, hello, nice to meet you. No, nothing's wrong.

[Beck Bennett]

Is that. Is that how you guys write movies or.

[David Wain]

That's the way that's our process, how we do it.

[Beck Bennett]

That's amazing. You just come up with these ideas.

[Ken Marino]

We wear different prescription glasses or glasses made for different things. And then that inspires.

[Beck Bennett]

Can I just write? Well, you know, sometimes. Yeah.

[David Wain]

And you know, it's. I. Ken may be joking, but we real. That is what we do is we look at our lives, we look at life and the world and then through another lens. Oh, okay. Another. Just the. And maybe sometimes the lens we look at is just a tiny bit, just

[Beck Bennett]

a little off and you see the world differently.

[Ken Marino]

That's right.

[Beck Bennett]

Right.

[David Wain]

That's it.

[Beck Bennett]

There's this book, the creativity book. The music producer. Music producer, big beard, Rick Rubin. Rick Rubin. He's all about looking at the world. You know, just change things a little bit. And then like, maybe that's. You're gonna be, you know, a totally different person.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's really cool. I'm sitting back, I'm like, damn, that's like really interesting.

[David Wain]

I'm so that I interrupted this.

[Beck Bennett]

I mean, no, but this is. This is the meat and potatoes. This is fantastic. Like just to get inside your guys brains, you know. Everybody wants to know how they work. And this is.

[David Wain]

Sometimes we're writing like one of our iconic comedy movies or.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. Role models Wanderlust.

[David Wain]

And we're working.

[Kyle Mooney]

Wait for the applause.

[David Wain]

Comedy movies we made. And we're trying to write the thing. And then we like get tired and stop. And then we're just riffing and like just banging on each other.

[Beck Bennett]

Like you're banging on each other.

[David Wain]

I'm hitting on it. I'm like, you know, giving him a dis or something. Then we realized he's in your finger.

[Beck Bennett]

He's kind of fingering him or something.

[Rochelle]

That's the.

[Kyle Mooney]

Because I love that fast. Like kind of roasted.

[David Wain]

Yeah, we put that in.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. That's amazing because I was gonna ask you exactly about that.

[David Wain]

Because I'll be like, Ken, you. Yeah, for example.

[Kyle Mooney]

And now do you.

[Beck Bennett]

Do you write that exact thing? Can you. Or sometimes they have a character.

[Kyle Mooney]

This character gives it to me.

[Beck Bennett]

What I'll do is I'll erase describe.

[David Wain]

I'll erase Ken. The name canon. I'll change it to Gail Daughtry. Or whatever.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[David Wain]

With character.

[Ken Marino]

I was gonna.

[David Wain]

I was gonna say they were trying to ask questions. Sorry.

[Beck Bennett]

That is. That is it. That is incredible. That is really amazing. Yeah, yeah. Writing screenplays is not easy.

[Kyle Mooney]

Do you go. Who. Whose place you go to or do you have an.

[Beck Bennett]

Like, is it somebody else's house that you might go to or.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I think me thinks I might have asked an awkward question.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, yeah, for the. For the people listening. David's eyes started bulging out of his skull and he started looking around the room.

[Rochelle]

Just.

[David Wain]

No, I was just evaluating in my own head for a second. Is it better to tell the truth or is there a joke answer that might be more entertaining?

[Ken Marino]

I don't know. Let's ask. Let's ask. You know, the guys.

[Kyle Mooney]

I'm nervous.

[Beck Bennett]

I think.

[Ken Marino]

I think you want a serious answer. You want to.

[Kyle Mooney]

I think that. I think. Ooh, that's a good question. You could always start joke then, like. No, but seriously, we meet it.

[David Wain]

Okay. You know where we do it is on the moon. You're fucking Mooney.

[Beck Bennett]

That's a clip. That's funny shit.

[Kyle Mooney]

What's going on?

[David Wain]

But seriously, if you want to know, sometimes we'll do it at my house, sometimes at his house, and sometimes it's on zoom.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay. Okay. And I. I was gonna. I was gonna ask an inappropriate question.

[David Wain]

For quite a number of years, we actually lived on different coasts, so. Oh, yeah, that was the whole thing.

[Kyle Mooney]

Wait, I actually don't. I'm not sure of this, so I want to guess. Do you know.

[Beck Bennett]

Do I know?

[Kyle Mooney]

You're from Long Island.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, I am originally from Long Island. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

So one was la, one was New York. Is that accurate so far?

[David Wain]

You're right on the money.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay. Do you have a sense. Do you have. Do you know?

[Beck Bennett]

No, Absolutely no.

[Ken Marino]

I. Oh, you have a 50. 50 shot at it.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, I know I'm looking like that could be New York or la, that I'm like kind of mixed up in my head. Yeah, yeah, Well, I know that's.

[Ken Marino]

It's a tough one.

[Kyle Mooney]

David does. David does a lot of directing and. And that could happen in la. And Ken was on. He's on the other two, and I'm pretty sure that shot in New York.

[Beck Bennett]

New York, Yeah.

[David Wain]

But think about thinking Ken's big hair.

[Ken Marino]

Well, we're gonna need a final answer.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, glasses.

[David Wain]

I'm in a coffee shop.

[Ken Marino]

I'm on the street.

[Beck Bennett]

Take as much time.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I'm trying to picture like, waney days where that would have taken place.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah. And that could be anywhere.

[Ken Marino]

It could be, but it was someplace.

[Beck Bennett]

But specifically Brooklyn.

[David Wain]

It took place in Brooklyn, but I didn't live in Brooklyn at the time.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay, so then I guess I'll go to New York. La.

[David Wain]

Nope.

[Beck Bennett]

No, I was not even fucking. Oh, my God. This is an LA guy right here. And this is a New York guy right here.

[David Wain]

We went to nyu and then we stayed in New York, but then he moved to LA, maybe 10 years before me or something.

[Ken Marino]

I moved to LA in 19. The end of 1997.

[David Wain]

Oh, whoa. And I moved here in 2013.

[Kyle Mooney]

Wow.

[David Wain]

Not to give away where we are, but we're in la.

[Beck Bennett]

We're in la. Yes, yes, yes.

[Ken Marino]

Can you.

[Kyle Mooney]

Can I. Okay. I want to do as many bits as possible, but I'm going to, at times, attempt to ask sincere questions.

[Ken Marino]

That'd be great.

[David Wain]

We're here.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, that'd be fantastic. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

I want you. I definitely want you on my side.

[Beck Bennett]

No way, dude. No, no, no, no. I say no questions, just bits. Just bits.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, I thought you were supporting him.

[Beck Bennett]

No, no, I'm supporting you. I'm supporting you. I want. I want real questions, but you guys don't have to give reality.

[Ken Marino]

I just have to say something.

[David Wain]

I'm ready to give a straightforward answer

[Ken Marino]

because I saw you. I came to an SNL show and I saw you when you guys were there.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

And I think I said hello to you and I wanted to say hello to you. And then we just, like, walked by each other and I was like, this. Is he mad at me?

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, never.

[Beck Bennett]

That's what a lot of people might wonder. Is he mad at me?

[Kyle Mooney]

I do remember seeing. Oh, yeah, that's true. No, I was likely intimidated and. And because Jody, who does hair for snl, I think did as well, so.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

And the movie called Brother Nature.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, yeah.

[David Wain]

That I was in.

[Beck Bennett]

That's right.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Ken Marino]

I was also intimidated, and that's why I didn't introduce myself.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, man. Well, I guess, like.

[Ken Marino]

Cause I'm a fan.

[Kyle Mooney]

I'm such a fan of everything you guys have done. And I wonder, like, I guess I started out this way. One I would love. We don't. I don't know that we have to, because I wonder if you talk about this all the time. By the way, we saw what was some sort of state reunion at Sketchfest several years ago. Do you remember this? Yes, I remember you were operating a laptop, I think, and, like, kind of bringing up a lot of fun clips and stuff. But it was. It was really cool. And I think it was before you guys had fully started.

[David Wain]

We started touring a little bit after that, probably.

[Kyle Mooney]

But how. How do you feel? I mean, I would. I would love to talk about the whole story from NYU to new group to State, but I feel like you've probably talked about that a lot. So I. I guess I'm just generally curious.

[David Wain]

Not to genuine cool comedy people like you.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, really? I think that's. I feel like that would be like your bread and butter.

[David Wain]

Well, I mean, I'm just saying, not all the time.

[Kyle Mooney]

Do you feel the love? Do you feel that? Like, oh, we've played a big part in sort of setting up alternative comedy and like, the work we've made has inspired all of these. I mean, do you get to enjoy it? And do you. Do you. Do you feel that?

[David Wain]

I feel like when we went on tour, definitely so many people showed up and told us stories about how much it meant to them or how, you know, what we did got them through tough times or was just important to them and stuff. And that was beautiful.

[Ken Marino]

That was probably the closest of ever feeling like, oh, people watched our show because normally I think we. I mean, for me, I'm like, I still don't know how many. What the State meant to people, how many people saw it. You know, it was just this little thing that we did that on MTV that. But at the time, we were Always felt like we were on the outside looking in and.

[David Wain]

But I've always felt like most of what we do is reached a very small group of people and also a very low level of awareness. But for those who find it, they are very.

[Beck Bennett]

Meant a lot.

[Kyle Mooney]

And what I think is so rad. And I've not gotten to see the new film yet, which is called Gail

[David Wain]

Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass.

[Kyle Mooney]

And when this episode is out, Rochelle, will the movie be out? This episode is coming out July 15th.

[David Wain]

Oh, it just opened five days ago.

[Beck Bennett]

Go Stop listening.

[David Wain]

Hit movie.

[Beck Bennett]

It's huge in theaters. Yeah.

[David Wain]

And it's leaving theaters in two days,

[Beck Bennett]

so you better listen. But I mean, big week run.

[Kyle Mooney]

It is so rap. You guys are still making fun, silly, smart things. I mean, that is inspiring because I feel like you could have stopped. You could have.

[David Wain]

Well, I can speak for myself. I have. You know, it's not like they're banging the door down being like, do other things in Hollywood, you know, and. And we've. I, personally, as a filmmaker and Ken, if we've thought about and explored sort of doing more like, you know, mainstream things, and then we just often have Gravitated back to this sort of, like, voice and thing that we do.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. And is. Is this movie. Is it sort of more along the lines of, like, wet Hot or They came say.

[David Wain]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

Like. Like, it's a satire on these types of.

[David Wain]

Like, it's not really a satire, but I would say on the continuum of the things we've done, it's on the more, like, weird side.

[Beck Bennett]

Cuckoo.

[Kyle Mooney]

And are you guys ever, like, wide

[Ken Marino]

and you're like, do you have fun?

[Beck Bennett]

That's great.

[Kyle Mooney]

Do you, like, go. Are you like. That's a great gag.

[David Wain]

Yeah, of course.

[Kyle Mooney]

You get psychedel.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, yeah, yeah. We get excited about it. And it's also, you know, it's because we've, you know, we. We like comedy and we've done a lot of jokes. Like, we. We're like, is this. Can we do this? Is this a fresh one? Is this a new one? Or is this a variation of one of the other ones we've done? And ultimately we're like, I don't. It doesn't matter. Just put it in.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah. If you've. Yeah. Keep doing different things.

[David Wain]

Motif.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

It's an homage to a different joke.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Yes.

[David Wain]

Yeah. Well, I mean, Showalter was even more into that. He would just be like, do the same joke again.

[Beck Bennett]

Right.

[David Wain]

Great.

[Kyle Mooney]

There was. I was on set a couple years ago, and I don't want to, hopefully. I'm not wrongfully attributing this to you, David, but did you come up with your own version of sides?

[David Wain]

Yeah, it's called Wayne Sides.

[Beck Bennett]

What are the Wayne sides?

[Kyle Mooney]

So sides, by the. Sorry for. But this is, like.

[David Wain]

Here comes a little insight.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes, it is. These are the scripts that. Little tiny scripts that everybody carries around

[David Wain]

normally on a set. Yeah. There's a. There's a reduced Xerox of, like, the day's pages that are going to be shot. And I did not like the format because you have to flip pages just to do a scene, and it's counterintuitive, and it's from when they used to have typewriters. So I invented a new format called Wayne Sides. And I'm going to make this fast because I hear Ken huffing and putting.

[Ken Marino]

No, no, no, I'm not huffing. I'm just thinking about it because I forgot that.

[David Wain]

And they're. And they're like. They involved just. Yeah, they involve better formatting and color and, like, they make more sense. They're more intuitive version of sides. And so some of the places I've brought them to, they've kept them and they still, you know, use Wayne size

[Kyle Mooney]

and you feel like it's spreading, people.

[David Wain]

I don't know if it's spreading or not, but I did it. I come up with these things for myself. I also invented my own form of drum notation for playing the drums and I come up with my own systems for myself because I don't like the way all things get the way it's done.

[Ken Marino]

Can you just explain some of the, the, the drum stuff that you do like to remember? Like what are the words you. You say?

[David Wain]

Well, I mean, I'm not the only drummer that does this, but I name drum fills so that I can remember what and read them and understand them quickly. So it'd be like, you know, Bagel dog in the Joomjoom house or whatever.

[Ken Marino]

Right. And how does that sound?

[David Wain]

Bagel dogs and the boom boom.

[Beck Bennett]

Whoa. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Because you guys, I don't know if you're aware, but you're in a band.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Are you guys aware of this Middle Aged dad jam band.

[David Wain]

That's it.

[Beck Bennett]

It mad jam band.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

That's another long dad jam band.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Come see Gail daughter in the celebrity sex pass by the guys from the Middle Aged Dad Jam Band.

[Ken Marino]

A lot of words.

[Kyle Mooney]

And that was a Covid era thing. That, that's what it, that's what I read. I don't know.

[David Wain]

Well, we, it's. We started.

[Kyle Mooney]

We've always been music, music people.

[David Wain]

I've always been like a fun, casual, you know, or I played in bands when I was younger. In middle school. Yeah, stuff. But then during COVID with extra time, I started making little recordings with friends, like remotely. And then after Covid, he and I and other dad friends just started getting together in the garage and jamming and for fun, just for kicks. And then it sort of organically evolved into a band and to the point now we're touring and making a lot of videos on YouTube and Stuff.

[Kyle Mooney]

Videos are great. I love when you guys do Billy Joel because I'm a Billy Joel head.

[Ken Marino]

We're doing the Middle Aged Dad Joel

[David Wain]

Band at the Lodge Room, which is weeks ago now.

[Ken Marino]

In, in two weeks.

[David Wain]

Well, it. This is, this is July 15th.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, right. This is July 15th.

[David Wain]

So. But it was a month ago in LA.

[Kyle Mooney]

I kind of want to guess this set.

[David Wain]

But we're also heading out on tour.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

In late July on the east coast and we're doing some Billy Joel and a lot of other music and a little bit of a tribute to wet hot American summer fun. And that's late July on the East Coast. Madjb.com Very cool.

[Ken Marino]

I'd like. I'd like. You don't have to keep it in the show, but can you quickly take a couple of. Guess. I wanna like.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay. How many tracks are we talking?

[Ken Marino]

Oh, we do like 20, 24 songs.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay. I should know from some of the videos that you. Have you got moving out on there.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Scenes from Italian Restaurant.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. I'll give you a big hint.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay.

[Ken Marino]

Nothing from the 80s except for maybe. Maybe one song.

[David Wain]

Except for Glass Houses. We do basically the whole album.

[Ken Marino]

Is that 80, 81.

[Beck Bennett]

80, 80.

[Ken Marino]

All right. So nothing from 82 on you got. Except for one. One song pressure.

[David Wain]

No, too late.

[Kyle Mooney]

Sorry. I was thinking of. It's a rock and roll to me.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Still rock and roll. Sure.

[Kyle Mooney]

New York state of mind.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

My life.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Just the way you are.

[David Wain]

I think he's got enough.

[Ken Marino]

No, yeah, we do do that one. No, no, we. Oh, we do.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Just the way. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you sang. And I recognize it.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, I. I Stiletto.

[Ken Marino]

We do Los Angelenos. We do. Oh, this. Those are tastes sort of Time. We do.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

More obscure ones.

[Kyle Mooney]

And are you fan. Are you. Are you both genuinely fans of Billy Joel?

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Yes.

[David Wain]

Very much love Billy Joel.

[Kyle Mooney]

Because if it's fair to say that he.

[Ken Marino]

First.

[Kyle Mooney]

For a moment there, people were on one side or the other.

[Beck Bennett]

I don't understand that. What is the. What is the. What is the critique of Billy Joel?

[Kyle Mooney]

I think that it's.

[David Wain]

I just think that maybe some. He's got an earnestness and an unironicness that I think maybe people were like, it's not cool.

[Rochelle]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's not edgy, maybe.

[David Wain]

But I mean, I think he's incredible.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, I do too.

[Ken Marino]

But his songs, you know, stand last. The stands of time. Stand the last. What's the word?

[David Wain]

Stand the last of them.

[Beck Bennett]

Stand around for time.

[Ken Marino]

Stand around for time. Lance. The stands of time.

[David Wain]

But I think what a lot of us. I think so realize when we do in the band. And also people watch that documentary that came out, it's just like the volume of songs that we know and love that he. Like just one athletes. Dozens and dozens of classic songs.

[Ken Marino]

Well, it's because they land the sands of time.

[David Wain]

They stands the lands of.

[Beck Bennett]

Lands around time. You guys. So you guys have been after the set when you guys wrote Role Models, was that. That was the first movie you guys wrote together?

[David Wain]

No, our first feature we wrote together was the 10.

[Beck Bennett]

Right.

[David Wain]

And then.

[Ken Marino]

Which was A weird experiment. We were like, let's write this movie,

[David Wain]

10 short stories, each one inspired by one of the 10 commandments.

[Ken Marino]

And then let's not take notes from anybody and see if we can get money and shoot exactly what we wrote.

[Beck Bennett]

And you guys did it?

[David Wain]

Yep.

[Ken Marino]

For better, for worse.

[David Wain]

No, it's great. It's great.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love it.

[David Wain]

And in fact, the 10 is having a new Blu Ray release this summer as well.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, cool.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Has there. Was there ever a point where you guys were like, we're not. We're not writing together anymore and then you guys came back together, or like, as you have, you guys, like, come together and come apart just because it's been such a long partnership, which is impressive.

[David Wain]

We've all. We've both worked a lot on other separate projects, but I think we never. We never were like, we are permanent partners or not. And so we just kept just. We just kept coming together all the

[Beck Bennett]

time and doing whatever it made sense.

[Ken Marino]

The true. The truth is, is we developed our writing together on the State, like, because different people in the state would kind of, you know, pair off or, you know, three or four people would go off and, like, write stuff for the writing session.

[Beck Bennett]

Right, right.

[Ken Marino]

And. And I found myself. We gravitated towards each other during that a lot of the times, and we had fun doing that. And so after the State sort of wasn't happening anymore and we were on different coasts, we kept talking about, well, we should write something together. We did this experiment where because we both were busy with our own lives, we were like, okay, let's write a first draft of a movie. We'll just block out seven days and we'll treat each day as like a work day. So we'll work on a shoot day and we'll come in with no idea. And then within the first day, we'll lock in on an idea, then we'll outline. Day two, and then we'll write 20 pages a day. And then we'll have a first draft of something at the end. And then we'll spend years and years, like, reworking it. But we'll have that thing at the end.

[David Wain]

And we've done that three times and we made three movies out of it. The 10, Wanderer, Lust and Gail Daughtry.

[Kyle Mooney]

You don't come in with a concept.

[David Wain]

Right.

[Kyle Mooney]

So what? The pitching process is like, oh, maybe something with this. I don't know.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

We show up and we're just like, okay, day one.

[Beck Bennett]

We haven't even emailed each other About

[David Wain]

a dog or whatever.

[Kyle Mooney]

Interesting.

[Ken Marino]

Talk about it for a while. And then I'm. You know, the first draft is a. A honking mess. Right. But you have it. Like, you can hold it and you're like, oh, here's. Now we have a thing.

[Kyle Mooney]

Did it.

[David Wain]

But honestly. Yeah. I don't know that. In any case, the first draft was horrible. It was a lot. In each case, the first draft was a lot of what it was gonna be.

[Kyle Mooney]

Seven days total.

[Beck Bennett]

Seven days total. And you're in a physical location.

[David Wain]

Seven days. From like seven to seven each day.

[Beck Bennett]

Seven to seven each day, same location. You're not over zoom.

[David Wain]

Right.

[Beck Bennett]

And so you're like, when we did

[David Wain]

it for the 10, I flew to LA to do it to hang out in his house and do it the whole time.

[Rochelle]

Time.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's very sweet that it worked and that you get to do it again and.

[David Wain]

Sweet. Your. That's your way of saying it's shocking that it worked because it sucked.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, I feel like you could have said for the first movie then we, like, yeah. Developed a new.

[Beck Bennett]

But, like, it kind of worked. But the fact that you guys are, like, putting yourselves together, you guys could do that. Yeah.

[David Wain]

To me, what I find it with the way. Oh, my God. I know.

[Beck Bennett]

That was for everybody who's now watching

[Kyle Mooney]

Computer glasses on still.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. So maybe that's the reason why part of the problem. Yeah. So David was talking and moving his hands around. One of his hands hit the mic box and it kind of started to fall off.

[David Wain]

That is one for the agent.

[Rochelle]

Well, this is.

[Kyle Mooney]

I mean, I know you say you don't come into the Seven Days with an idea, but there's an idea.

[Ken Marino]

This is something.

[Beck Bennett]

Computer Glasses.

[Ken Marino]

You can use it, but it's not going to be.

[David Wain]

I think I could see.

[Beck Bennett]

It's called computer glasses or something.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Maybe it's not.

[David Wain]

I think this could be a Hulu play. Yeah. Because they are chomping to the bit for mic stuff. Stuff about the mic.

[Ken Marino]

They are? Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

I thought you were saying they're doing plays. I was like, that's actually a really cool Hulu.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

No, that's.

[David Wain]

That's all I was saying, though, before, back to the sincere thing is that for us, we every. You know, we have kids, we have lives, we're juggling projects. So to. To carve out like one does for a production or a shoot, just be like, this is the time. Nothing else happens during that time, but then we don't have to worry about it for a period of months, you know, like yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

And I feel like as far as it being something sweet, it's like you guys were like, I. That makes sense to me. Because there is sort of a leap of faith of, like, well, maybe if we're just with each other and we can't go anywhere that'll be more impactful than just, like, being on Zoom and, like, meeting up a little bit.

[David Wain]

I find that. Because I feel like we've. I know that we've talked about other projects, maybe with other partners, where you have a Zoom and you're like, great, now we'll do it again soon. And, like, things dissipating. Oh, I can't.

[Ken Marino]

Also, you get distracted. You're on Zoom. That means you're on your computer, which means, like, texts are coming in. And like. Like we turn off our phone and write. And then we're like, okay, now we'll have a 20 minute break.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Because I have this theory that I feel like the phones have, like, hijacked our attention.

[Beck Bennett]

Absolutely.

[David Wain]

You know, like, society wise.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, snap.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, that. I mean that. Okay, so, like, I want to.

[Kyle Mooney]

Let's dig deeper into that.

[Beck Bennett]

Well, that's me.

[Ken Marino]

Like, this is just a theory, right? This is a theory.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, you know, I could have got the drum thing.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

But I mean, my feel is like feeling like feeling something. Put the phone down.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[David Wain]

Put it down.

[Rochelle]

Wow.

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't know.

[Beck Bennett]

I don't know.

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't know.

[Ken Marino]

Maybe.

[David Wain]

No, I'm saying maybe.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, maybe.

[Ken Marino]

Right. It's just a maybe.

[Kyle Mooney]

Did you guys get to go.

[Beck Bennett]

Maybe you guys get to go to,

[Kyle Mooney]

like, MTV spring break?

[David Wain]

Yes, we did.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

How is that?

[David Wain]

In 1997, we were. I was 27 years old. You're probably 28 or something. And then something like that, we went to about.

[Ken Marino]

Right. I'm older than you.

[David Wain]

Yes. That was sort of the height of spring break, mtv. And we went down to Panama City as the whole group, the state. And it was really weird. And we, like, went to this club with 7,000 people.

[Kyle Mooney]

Did you do bits?

[David Wain]

Did you, like.

[Kyle Mooney]

Did they have.

[Ken Marino]

We were doing, like, wraparounds to stuff.

[David Wain]

We were, like, shooting little bits.

[Kyle Mooney]

And then we're now the Fugees or something like that.

[David Wain]

Well, we were on this one show. We were introduced by Norm MacDonald, I remember. And then we did the. This skit about doing, like, a legit Shakespeare scene. But each person that comes out has a larger visible. Hard on.

[Ken Marino]

Hard on, Shaky Willie.

[Beck Bennett]

Shaky Willy.

[Ken Marino]

Hard on. Well, that was the title of it, Hard On Shaky Willy. But it was straight up a Scene from Beth or Hamlet.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

So it's like kind of playing on,

[Ken Marino]

like, the COD piece. The person came out with a larger.

[David Wain]

I mean, yeah, it was a thing, like, the first couple times, you think maybe you're just noticing that you're seeing. But then we. It becomes more and more obvious that it's on purpose as time goes on.

[Beck Bennett]

That's fantastic.

[David Wain]

You guys get it?

[Beck Bennett]

We love Spring Breakers.

[Ken Marino]

Loved it. We did it in front of a bunch of Spring break. It was like, on the same stage as, like, you know, what. Whatever bands were big then.

[Beck Bennett]

Smash Mouth.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. They play on and then they're like,

[David Wain]

probably Bill Haley in the comments or something.

[Ken Marino]

And we. We came out and did a. We did Shakespeare with hard on.

[Kyle Mooney]

But no. How did it actually play?

[David Wain]

I think it played fine.

[Ken Marino]

I think it played okay.

[Kyle Mooney]

I mean, it's like Big Cop.

[Ken Marino]

We have done it.

[David Wain]

It was a sketch that we had done live that we never did on show because we just were like.

[Beck Bennett]

I don't know.

[David Wain]

It's not the most interesting thing, but we. It worked great. And we were like, better for that audience.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Throw them a bone.

[David Wain]

And then. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

And then like.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, for the spring break.

[David Wain]

Because our show at MTV was basically up at the end by then. Or over by then.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ken Marino]

But, you know, we did. But we did these wraparounds and we showed them at our. We did this state tour and we showed, you know, some of them at the. On the tour. And I hadn't seen them since we had done them. And they're ridiculous. I mean, like, they're so not. They're so not spring break material. Material. But that's what I loved about it. Like, somebody finds a stake on the beach that's washed up on the beach, and then they have a. They talk about that for a while, and Tom's talking about art theory and somebody like.

[David Wain]

They're funny, though. They're funny.

[Ken Marino]

They're funny. They're good.

[Kyle Mooney]

Isn't it? I mean, the fact that you guys all met like that there's so many of you have had success.

[David Wain]

Very fortunate. It's very, very unusual, unique.

[Kyle Mooney]

I mean, do you know that, like, when you're. Whatever.

[David Wain]

I do. I mean. Well. Oh, I see that.

[Kyle Mooney]

These were special people. I guess so.

[David Wain]

My experience was I was in this other group at nyu and then that Todd Holabeck left our group to start, like, a junior squad because we didn't want to let people into the senior group. And so that junior squad became the state ultimately. So I watched.

[Ken Marino]

That's why we Were called the new group.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, okay.

[David Wain]

Yeah, yeah. The new. There's our group. And then the new group. And then I went to go see, just as an audience member, the very first show of this new group called Then the New Group. And I was like, jesus, these guys are good. Like, every single one is so incredible. Like, it was just. Like, there was something and. And also there was an inclusive, joyous quality to it that I really gravitated to wanting to be a part of as well.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

So. And then from Muscled himself, I did. But then. And then. But as time went on, it became truer and truer. Like, I'm like, wow, this Michael Black and Tom Lanley and Carrie can. We're like, wow, these are all amazing people. And we all taught each other a lot of what we know and, like, learned from just doing it and from each other. And so. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Was there any. I mean. Cause, like, you're nyu and we didn't really have mentors. And there was. You're like, you're not. It's not a Second City thing or a ground lane thing. We were teaching ourselves.

[David Wain]

And we were somewhat.

[Ken Marino]

That's a special part of it. There was no.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Like, we were looking at, like, we were proudly outside SNL and, like, you know, and. And the Muppets and whatever. And we were like. Like, we were taking things that influenced us, but we didn't. There wasn't, like, a group before us that we were like, all right, now. Oh, what. What are the. What are the rules? So we were just making it up as we went along and. And making each other kind of laugh and sort of built. Figuring out our. What our style was or what.

[David Wain]

And like. Yeah, because none of us were the Groundlings or Second City or SNL or anything. Like, we were separate from that, and we sort of like that, you know,

[Beck Bennett]

and then I was gonna say, when we started a comedy group, we had so many examples. I know, of great sketch comedy groups. Like, you had a stage, I feel like.

[Kyle Mooney]

Did you?

[Beck Bennett]

I might have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr. Show. And like, you know, like, all these kids in all these great groups, we had these things that we could look at DVDs or, like, pull it up on the Internet.

[David Wain]

There weren't a lot of. I mean, we were similar. Time as kids in the hall. Yeah. But other than that, you know, what we looked back at was SCTV and Monty Python and what was the.

[Kyle Mooney]

Again, I'm sure you've spoken about this ad nauseam, but what was the moment? How did. There was. On a show Prior to the state, like, you shoot it, you watch it, or something like that.

[David Wain]

You wrote it, you watch it.

[Kyle Mooney]

And how did you make the leap from college group to.

[David Wain]

I was like, an intern and had menial jobs at MTV as we were getting towards graduation around that time. And there was that show called you'd wrote a You watcha. And they were looking for directors to make little skits based on things that people would write in. And I went back to the group and explained that, and we decided to, Instead of just pitching me as a director, that we would take the proactive move of making our own sketches by interviewing people on the street and then intercutting it with. With funny reenactments. And so I showed up, like, the next day with three completed pieces. And this was in a time when that wasn't. There was no iPhones or anything. It was not as easy to do that. And they were. The MTV group was impressed. And they were like, oh. Then they ended up hiring the whole group.

[Ken Marino]

Wow. Yeah. The show was a. Jon Stewart. He was the host of it, and he would read letters, like, you know, most embarrassing parents story.

[Kyle Mooney]

Right?

[Ken Marino]

And so he. So they. The way they had it structured, they would. John would read the letter, and then they would have a crew of actors who would act it out, and that was it. And then David was like, why don't we do man on the Street? Shit, I'll go out. We'll go out with my camera, his camera. And then we intercut it with the people actually telling the story as opposed to Jon Stewart reading the letter. And so then that's what we brought to them.

[David Wain]

And the show became. Yeah, we had our own segments that we made entirely ourselves that were on that show.

[Kyle Mooney]

And then eventually the executives, like, we should just give you your show.

[David Wain]

Basically, they let. They. They said, do you want to make a pilot?

[Beck Bennett]

And they were like, you did this for no money. So we'll just.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, so can we pay you all $11 each?

[Beck Bennett]

Right, right. And we're like, yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

[Ken Marino]

We get an office.

[David Wain]

We basically shared a salary of one person in one. One office and one phone for the 11 of us. But we also. The. Another funny thing is, MTV was like, all right, we want to talk about you having your own series. Give us three completely separate pitches for what it would be. And we knew that our show was gonna be like our show, the state sketch Show. And so we had to come up with, like.

[Ken Marino]

I don't remember that.

[Beck Bennett]

Did you come with?

[David Wain]

Yeah, no. Cause remember, this was a Very funny thing that I remember where we had to, like, come up with two other pitches that were like ghost pitches, like garbage. There was one other we came up with. I don't remember. And then the third one, we decided the third one, we'll just see what happens in the room. We'll see. Right. And then Ken was like. So we're like. They're like, okay, that's the second one. Now it's the third one. And you said something about, like, Risk or something, or.

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't remember.

[David Wain]

Yeah, we just literally, like, improvised a third pitch. Wow.

[Kyle Mooney]

They're like, well, that one's fucking stupid.

[Beck Bennett]

Do that one. We love it. That's stupid. We like that thing.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, perfect. And, Ken, what about Rock and Roller Coaster? What can you tell us about appearing with. With Aerosmith?

[Ken Marino]

So when I moved out here in 97, because I had booked a. A series, I moved out here.

[Beck Bennett]

That's a big deal. For people who don't know, that's a big deal.

[Ken Marino]

That was a big deal.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, it really.

[Ken Marino]

I moved out here. It was not a fun experience, but I.

[David Wain]

But.

[Ken Marino]

But I. I got it and I came out here, and because of that, I got an offer to. I got a call from my manager. He's like, this is a weird one. Not a lot of money, but do you want to do, like, this scene with Aerosmith and Ileana Douglas? You don't have any lines. And I was like, yeah. To hang out with Aerosmith and Ileana Douglas. Sure. And so I went in and I was the soundboard operator for the pre show to.

[David Wain]

This is the video that plays while you're waiting in line to go on a roller coaster at Universal.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, Disney World.

[Ken Marino]

Disney World, Yeah. Yeah. And. And. And so I went in, and all I remember is I had to. Because the way they were shooting it was like IMAX film. And so they were blowing it out with a lot of light from the soundboard. So I had to get these, like, really thick sunglass contacts, so I. So I couldn't see. I was just looking down at lights.

[Kyle Mooney]

Right.

[Ken Marino]

Weird. And then. Yeah, because. Because the way they were shooting it, it had to look real from two rooms away or something like that. I don't know. Whatever.

[Beck Bennett]

But.

[Ken Marino]

And I remember Steven Tyler talking about how important flossing was.

[Beck Bennett]

Wow. He was ahead of the time.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. Well, he had great teeth.

[David Wain]

You know, Steve is a real flosser. Let's. He's a real flosser.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Kind of, sort of.

[Beck Bennett]

You look at those teeth.

[Ken Marino]

He's a Flosser got some chompers.

[Beck Bennett]

He's got some big old chompers. Yes, exactly, Kyle. That's a good Steven Tyler.

[Ken Marino]

That's like a great impression of Steven Tyler.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, that's actually really cool to hear.

[Ken Marino]

Thanks, guys. Now, have you seen that angle?

[Rochelle]

Love it.

[Ken Marino]

You know, like that, like that take on it.

[Kyle Mooney]

I was just truly, I was just messing around in the moment. But yeah, I guess maybe you weren't thinking about.

[David Wain]

You didn't just come up with that right now while you were doing it?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Wow.

[David Wain]

Come on.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's incredible.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, there it is, Steven. Rock and Roller Coaster.

[David Wain]

Later you'll tell me that. I think it's probably pre planned actually,

[Kyle Mooney]

in our last record.

[Beck Bennett]

Now did you.

[Kyle Mooney]

Do you get.

[Beck Bennett]

Was that a bio for rock for Rocky? 4 pictures from rock and Roller Coaster or are you getting residuals for that?

[Ken Marino]

No, I just got paid one lump sum of nothing.

[David Wain]

They finally replaced the ride like this year.

[Ken Marino]

Right.

[David Wain]

And now you're in the new one.

[Ken Marino]

So it's now muppets mayhem. Dr. Teeth and. Oh my God, Dr. Teeth.

[Kyle Mooney]

The electric Mayhem.

[Ken Marino]

Electric Mayhem. And that's what it is now. And they asked me, they invited me back and I got to do a scene with Hermit. The frog.

[Kyle Mooney]

Frog.

[Beck Bennett]

That's cool.

[Kyle Mooney]

Kermit. He's sort of the head of the

[Ken Marino]

whole group, as I recall from what I'm to understand. Kermit, sort of without Kermit.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay. No, because I didn't know if that's like they just present it that way, like he's the guy in charge.

[Ken Marino]

But no, he's. He's in charge of it. He actually fired a couple people while we were shooting. I mean, great guy, great frog.

[David Wain]

Okay. Great funny bit. Haha. But joking aside though, does something going on with him and Miss Piggy or what? Joking aside?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Are they like.

[Ken Marino]

Joking aside? I think it's an on and off thing. I mean, I think that there's a love.

[David Wain]

Okay.

[Ken Marino]

I mean, there's a deep love there.

[David Wain]

Okay.

[Ken Marino]

Sometimes, you know, people are complicated. Pigs are complicated for complicated.

[David Wain]

Okay. Okay. Okay. So yeah, yeah, yeah, you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ken Marino]

I mean, you know, I mean, you've seen it. They played a lot of it out on camera, but it's very similar off camera.

[David Wain]

Okay, okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay. Now speaking of your. Your acting work, I. I have to say you play some of the best, for lack of a better word. Douchebags, jerks.

[Ken Marino]

Thank you so much.

[Beck Bennett]

Like, really, like Wanderlust is incredible. Like, man, I played some of those parts and you're one of the people I've looked up to, like, being like. And I was just wondering, like, if there's. If there's somebody that you had, like, there. Somebody that you saw playing those parts where you're like, I want to play. Like that inspired you?

[Rochelle]

One.

[Ken Marino]

One person is. Is Bruce Campbell.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Just because, like, yeah, he's just got. He could play a real jerk. And it's fun to watch and it's silly, but I mean, like, I don't know, there were other.

[Beck Bennett]

And like. And I guess. And also, I mean, while you think of that, like, is it, like, did you ever come across being like, oh. Because the characters that you play like that. I mean, obviously the thing is to make them likable and fun and you, like, they are so likable. Like, did you ever come up against, like, oh, I gotta, like, pull this back, or, like, I gotta change this. Or it was just.

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't know.

[Ken Marino]

I mean, I, like, I feel like there's variations of that I play. Right. Like, some are sort of lovable. They don't mean to be. And then some of them are just, like, straight up, 100.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[David Wain]

Terrible.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, they're definitely different degrees. Wanderlust is so.

[Ken Marino]

Wanderlust is a straight up terrible human being.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, he is. But the whole, like, joking thing. I'm joking. Like, he knows what I mean, like, that I'm being addicted.

[Rochelle]

Dick.

[Kyle Mooney]

Is that because a clip came up

[David Wain]

recently in my house?

[Kyle Mooney]

You're trying to force Paul Rudd.

[Beck Bennett]

It's. Sorry, it's. No, no, no, no, no.

[Ken Marino]

I'm sorry. No, no, no.

[Kyle Mooney]

I was. I saw this clip came up. I was telling you where, like, you're trying to force Paul Rudd to suck your dick.

[David Wain]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

What was that? What movie is that?

[David Wain]

That's Wanderlust.

[Ken Marino]

That was. Was that.

[Kyle Mooney]

Get over here.

[David Wain]

Come on.

[Kyle Mooney]

Suck my dick.

[David Wain]

Suck my dick. Come on. He knows I'm joking. It's just, like, weird.

[Ken Marino]

It gets real uncomfortable.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, it was very funny.

[Beck Bennett]

It's. It's incredible. I could watch you do.

[David Wain]

I mean, there's things we did, like, in that. In Wanderlust, you know, we would sometimes really push, try something, then. Then edit. We're like, well, maybe don't. There was a scene we did where he. He's freaking out on Paul Rudd, then he pulls out a gun. He's gonna shoot himself.

[Ken Marino]

That's in the bizarre. That's in the bizarro cut.

[David Wain]

Yeah. We made a different cut of Wanderlust that's entirely made up of footage. That's not in the movie. Movie.

[Kyle Mooney]

And did you get it?

[David Wain]

It's like you can get it. You can see it on Amazon or.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, cool. An hour long. Not stuff that's in the movie, but the same story.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, wow. Cool, cool.

[Ken Marino]

Feelings mutual. I love watching your characters. You played an character in the other two.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes, I did. Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

And you were great.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, thank you so much. I mean those guys are good at like really stripping it down and being like, don't just be. Just like say the lines simply. And it's like that does a lot of the work for you. You don't have to put too much on it. You know, sometimes.

[Ken Marino]

Sometimes if the lines are assholey, you say them truthfully.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Like as if you're a good guy and you're not doing anything.

[David Wain]

I once was helping something. I don't want to say. I don't think I remember exactly the details, but I pitched a line that you said in something really. And it was so great and it was very. It was made me happy.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, man. I want to know what that is.

[Ken Marino]

I'm going to figure out maybe next

[Beck Bennett]

podcast I'm going to go through, watch all my performances.

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't want to. I feel like I don't want to feed either of your egos, but I'm curious. You're both handsome men and I wonder if there's something like the. If there's like a. An asshole thing that like, it's like you need to be psych. Sort of a level of good looking almost to play this particular type of asshole.

[David Wain]

Or else you got nothing.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's somebody who's like, or else.

[Beck Bennett]

What do we have?

[Kyle Mooney]

Right. You're confident. You know what I mean?

[Ken Marino]

It's a confidence. It's a confident asshole who thinks, you know, it's the privilege Aged white.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Dude, he looks like whatever I want. Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. I'll say whatever I want whenever I want because I've. I. Because I deserve it.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[David Wain]

That is kind of the underlying. Yeah. Tie together thing in a way.

[Kyle Mooney]

And we're kind of the guys with glasses.

[Ken Marino]

He's a real jerk.

[David Wain]

We could do our own team up as well.

[Beck Bennett]

Why?

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't know if that'll work.

[David Wain]

But now no one on the silver screen.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, that would be a future starring.

[David Wain]

Yeah, I have some more water.

[Ken Marino]

I would love that feature.

[Beck Bennett]

I don't know. Yeah, maybe you guys are brothers and. We're brothers and there's some sort of summer competition at like a. I don't know.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes. Or it's a Body swap?

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. Come on. Body swap?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay.

[David Wain]

Well, between the temple and the church.

[Beck Bennett]

Between the temple and the church? Yeah.

[David Wain]

I don't know.

[Beck Bennett]

We're church guys who are temp your temple guys.

[Ken Marino]

I guess that's where he's going with that.

[David Wain]

I don't know. Know.

[Ken Marino]

You don't know?

[David Wain]

I'm. Yes, that's where I was going with it, but it's sort of abandoning skin. I feel like I'm gonna ask that we move on.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, our producer left. Maybe Rochelle's getting you water. I don't really know.

[David Wain]

I did ask her. I'm sorry. I. No, no, no.

[Kyle Mooney]

You're good.

[David Wain]

Out of turn.

[Ken Marino]

I heard it on. On the mic. He asked for water.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, no, I. I heard it, too, and you deserve it.

[David Wain]

What do you got, condenser mics here?

[Beck Bennett]

I don't think we have condenser mics here.

[David Wain]

Okay, cool.

[Ken Marino]

I wouldn't know. What is a condenser, Mike?

[David Wain]

I'm not really sure.

[Ken Marino]

I have a question for you. What's head gum? I know it's the name of the company.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. No. Yeah, Rochelle, what is it?

[Ken Marino]

Gum made of hay.

[Beck Bennett]

It's a brain.

[David Wain]

It's like something you can chew on in your brain.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[David Wain]

Head gum. That's what it means. That's what it is.

[Ken Marino]

Something you can chew on in your brain.

[David Wain]

It's head gum. It's, like, gives you ideas or content you can chew on and enjoy.

[Ken Marino]

That's not an expression.

[David Wain]

They made it up. The expression.

[Ken Marino]

They made it up.

[David Wain]

I think there was a website a long time before. Before even podcasts. Oh, God, I could. Talk to me.

[Ken Marino]

How much longer?

[Beck Bennett]

The knowledge.

[David Wain]

I mean, you know, in. In old radio.

[Ken Marino]

Can you do your old timey radio voice? Probably not. Oh, he's out. He's sleeping. Should we sneak out?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, let's get out of here.

[Kyle Mooney]

I thought he was just trying to access it, but yeah, I mean, we don't need to.

[Ken Marino]

We don't?

[David Wain]

No. I just got bored with what I was saying.

[Kyle Mooney]

We've been talking for 15 years.

[Ken Marino]

We got to talk about Gail Daughtry and the celebrity sex. Pass. Did we do that?

[Kyle Mooney]

We really have to get moving.

[Ken Marino]

No, we have.

[Beck Bennett]

No, no, let's. Let's talk about the movie. We have to talk about the movie. So. Yes, let's talk about the movie.

[Ken Marino]

Movie.

[Beck Bennett]

What?

[David Wain]

I'm just gonna do some math here, though. If they've lasted this long, they're probably the type of person that's probably gonna see the movie already. Yeah, but we should talk about it.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, we can also move forward. We can also move it forward.

[Ken Marino]

Let's not talk about the movie.

[David Wain]

No, I want to talk about it.

[Beck Bennett]

Let's talk about it.

[David Wain]

So it's called Gail Daughtery and the Celebrity Sex Pass.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[David Wain]

And has an incredible cast led by the incomparable Zoe Deutch as the aforementioned Gail Daughtry. And she plays this woman in the Midwest who has a celebrity sex pass agreement with her husband to be. And he amazingly meets his celebrity and has sex with her, taking it literally. So she's distraught. She finds herself in Hollywood and a psychic tells her, hey, you've got to find your celebrity, Jon Hamm.

[Ken Marino]

Even the playing field.

[David Wain]

Have sex with him.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[David Wain]

And then save your relationship by balancing it out. And so she goes epic journey. She meets people on the way, like Ken Marino and Ben Wong.

[Ken Marino]

Well, not me. A character I play. I play a character, a jerk. She doesn't meet Ken Marino in Hollywood

[Beck Bennett]

because I haven't seen the movie. But you look a little different in the slide. You have different characters, but he plays

[David Wain]

a hot headed jerk with a heart of gold.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay.

[David Wain]

And she meets one of the people she meets along the way. Try to find Jon Hamm. Is John Slattery playing himself as an out of work actor? Who wants to. To find Jon Hamm?

[Kyle Mooney]

Also, I'm gonna keep going back to this, that this was part of the seven day process.

[David Wain]

That's right.

[Ken Marino]

But this is called Gail Daughtry and the Celebrity Sex Pass. Just one of the many Gail Daughtry movies. What's.

[Kyle Mooney]

What.

[Ken Marino]

When do you remember seeing your first Gail Daughtry movie? And which one did you love the best?

[Kyle Mooney]

I snuck in and I was in seventh grade and it was Gail Daughtry goes up in flames.

[David Wain]

Yes. Oh, that was a great one. That was a fun show, actually, because we were in Tunisia doing the flame stuff because they wouldn't let us do it here.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. And a couple people got hurt, but

[David Wain]

they were okay, glad you enjoyed it.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I liked.

[Beck Bennett]

I liked Gail Daughtry going around in a plane. Yeah. She was up in the air and it was like she couldn't get down.

[Ken Marino]

That one we just did for fun. It's a short.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

And it's just literally her going around in a plane.

[David Wain]

Well, because my bud had that plane

[Ken Marino]

set and we were like, let's take advantage of your bud's plane.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. What other girl?

[Kyle Mooney]

Daughtry. Gail Daughtry on the court. On the basketball court.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[Rochelle]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Gail daughter on the court.

[Ken Marino]

On the basketball. And. And I.

[David Wain]

What? They wanted us to shorten that. My favorite Gil D. On the court. And we're like, no D. On the court. On the basketball court.

[Ken Marino]

On the basketball court. On the court. On the basketball court. And we. And what was great about that one is we didn't think we were going to get Allen Iverson to be in it.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[David Wain]

And to play the judge in the court.

[Ken Marino]

Play the judge you had.

[Kyle Mooney]

Because you had her playing for the. The 76ers. You could have had him.

[David Wain]

Right.

[Kyle Mooney]

Play, like, just play himself.

[Ken Marino]

We got him as the judge, and

[Kyle Mooney]

that's why I was like, okay, these guys are a little different.

[David Wain]

That's what I was saying earlier about the lens.

[Beck Bennett]

It's not what you'd expect right away. Yeah. Twist around.

[Kyle Mooney]

And what was. What's been your favorite Gail Daughter film to work on? I mean, I'm sure you love them. They're like. They're like my baby.

[David Wain]

You know what, though? Just, like, to me, it's like, we just. We just finished Sex Pass this year, and I feel like that's really one that kind of incorporates everything I. All the things. All the tent poles of what makes a Gail Dodge a great Gail Daughtry movie. They're all in Gail Daughtry in the celebrity Sex Pass.

[Beck Bennett]

And what do you like about sex?

[David Wain]

Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Well, we all love it.

[David Wain]

I love so many people.

[Beck Bennett]

It's incredible.

[David Wain]

So many parts of sex. But one of my. One of my very favorite parts is that part right at the end.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Where, like, it really feels like it's all coming out.

[Kyle Mooney]

Like, I love that part.

[David Wain]

It's so. It's very climactic for me.

[Kyle Mooney]

I was talking to my friend Brandon about this.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. Oh, what were you talking to Brandon about?

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

What were you.

[Kyle Mooney]

Brandon, you're talking about this exact same thing.

[Beck Bennett]

The messy part at the end, everything comes out.

[Kyle Mooney]

Because that was. Because, like, I remember. Like, I was like, whoa, you have

[Beck Bennett]

to talk to a friend about it, because. Incredible. This is unbelievable.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[David Wain]

It happened because you can't keep. So it happened to me for the first time.

[Ken Marino]

I know what it's called.

[David Wain]

It happened to me the first time about five years ago. And I remember calling Ken and being like. Like, ken, does this ever happen to you? And he's like, yes.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

And he's like, it's called.

[Ken Marino]

Well, it's called I'll maybe.

[Beck Bennett]

I don't know if we can really sit.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's ejaculation.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

No, no, no.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Everybody. Now everybody knows.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

But.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

No, the ejaculation part. Sorry, I thought we could say it now. I'm sorry.

[Ken Marino]

No, you're allowed to say one time and then you don't have to get the extra.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, so we'll cut that.

[David Wain]

We'll think about it. Think about how odd it is and maybe is this purpose or not purpose, that ejaculation rhymes with staycation.

[Ken Marino]

I do think about that a lot since you've said it, because I'm really confused by it. Wow.

[Kyle Mooney]

And it's like whenever you're sort of

[David Wain]

like, everyone's like, oh, I'm going to have a staycation. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

I know what you're talking about.

[Ken Marino]

Sure.

[Beck Bennett]

You.

[Ken Marino]

Maybe it's.

[Beck Bennett]

Maybe it's been code this whole time.

[Kyle Mooney]

Sounds like if you staycation, you're just coming all over the place.

[Ken Marino]

Yes.

[David Wain]

Right.

[Beck Bennett]

That's amazing. That's. That's. That's the kind of staycation that I could go on. Yeah, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

A comecation.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Stay, I would say. Or staycation.

[David Wain]

Not.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, not come. Staycation.

[David Wain]

I just. I. My buddies who are like, hey, I'm not going to work this week. I'm having a cum fest. I'm like, you're the more honest ones.

[Beck Bennett]

Rare.

[Kyle Mooney]

Rare, right? Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Well, that's Gail Daughter celebrity Gail Daughtry

[David Wain]

and the celebrity Sex Paths in theaters. Check it out.

[Kyle Mooney]

How was that?

[Beck Bennett]

I'm very excited.

[David Wain]

How crafty was good? Good?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, yeah, Solid. Great.

[David Wain]

No, no, no shot here.

[Kyle Mooney]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[David Wain]

Takes place in Hollywood, California.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's nice.

[David Wain]

Shot on location in la.

[Kyle Mooney]

And you guys, what's.

[Ken Marino]

Am I going to badmouth the crafty people? They work so hard.

[Beck Bennett]

It works.

[Kyle Mooney]

Of course, of course.

[Ken Marino]

So you're going to. You're going to. You're going to cut.

[Kyle Mooney]

You know what I'm trying to get these guys. You try to ask me the question.

[David Wain]

A lot of people work hard.

[Ken Marino]

Like, I'm going to throw somebody under the bus. No, it's not my first barbecue.

[David Wain]

You know, Joe on crafty was Dr. Joseph Mengele. Worked very hard, but I will badmouth him for being a Nazi Jew killer.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, yeah?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

And who's that?

[Ken Marino]

That mingler?

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, right. Yes, he's famous.

[Ken Marino]

Joey. Joey Ming.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Thank you for saying something. It's important to got.

[Ken Marino]

You got to put it out there because if you don't and you hold on to it, it's just going to rot. And.

[David Wain]

And I just feel like I've seen a lot of podcasts recently where people are very silent. On that one.

[Kyle Mooney]

Absolutely.

[David Wain]

And I just feel like that's ridiculous. It needs to be said.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, Dave, you're brave.

[Kyle Mooney]

Wow.

[Ken Marino]

All heroes don't wear masks, cups, uniforms, protective cups.

[David Wain]

Heroes don't wear computer glasses.

[Beck Bennett]

Computer glasses.

[Ken Marino]

Stands the test of time.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[Ken Marino]

Stands the test of time.

[Kyle Mooney]

It is. Oh, there you go. No, Michelle's reaching for.

[Beck Bennett]

Pulling out her paper. Oh, no, no. Show us the paper.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, let's show.

[David Wain]

Wrap it up.

[Beck Bennett]

Next segment.

[Kyle Mooney]

We're talking.

[Ken Marino]

I forgot to press record.

[Kyle Mooney]

Next segment. Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, no, I did it again. I didn't press the button.

[Kyle Mooney]

Rochelle, it would be okay. I'm sure we'd figure something. It'd be okay. Can we just entertain the idea that the last hour was not recorded?

[Ken Marino]

What?

[Kyle Mooney]

Now our producers reach out to you or your reps and are like, like, sorry, we had an issue.

[Beck Bennett]

Sorry.

[Kyle Mooney]

What do you think it's like, Is it just h. Yeah, we got other to do, or do you think, like, oh, we do, like, a makeup zoom. What. What is the scenario that plays.

[David Wain]

I'm going to say, as far as, like, redoing it? No chance.

[Ken Marino]

Okay. And I would. I would come right back. Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay.

[David Wain]

I once did. For real.

[Beck Bennett]

We can put a little dummy in for.

[David Wain]

We did a Comedy Bang Bang live show at south by Southwest, like, 10 years ago, and it was, to me, one of my. I've never laughed harder in my life at any time anything. It was so funny. And they're like, oh, it wasn't taped. And we didn't do. No offense to those guys.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, no offense, but those guys are great.

[David Wain]

They only made one mistake.

[Kyle Mooney]

Shout out to the Comedy Bang Bang universe.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, the big mistake. Shout out. Now, Rochelle told us we need to move on to our next segment. It's true.

[Ken Marino]

Does that mean we're not part of it?

[Beck Bennett]

No, you're part of it.

[David Wain]

Oh, okay.

[Beck Bennett]

So you guys, I think you were told to come in with an idea for what our podcast should be about.

[Rochelle]

About.

[Beck Bennett]

Is this true?

[David Wain]

Nope. Nope. Oh, that's. What's our podcast.

[Rochelle]

Right.

[Beck Bennett]

What's our podcast cast not pad.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Not padcast.

[David Wain]

Got it.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Did somebody say padcast?

[Kyle Mooney]

I just pad guest.

[Ken Marino]

I wasn't gonna say anything.

[Beck Bennett]

We don't know what our podcast should be about. So we were just wondering if you guys have an idea for what our podcast.

[David Wain]

I do.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, great. Why not? Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

And you guys are in concert with each other?

[David Wain]

I don't know.

[Ken Marino]

Sure.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay.

[Rochelle]

I mean, you.

[Beck Bennett]

Well, usually maybe when they do their band, but.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Rochelle]

Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Pretty good.

[Kyle Mooney]

Don't Go.

[Ken Marino]

Changing.

[David Wain]

Listen, here's the idea. You. We're talking, we're doing whatever, but then when you guys just, like, kind of, like, diss on each other, that's the best.

[Beck Bennett]

When we dunk on each other, like, that's the podcast.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay.

[Ken Marino]

I was gonna say cats.

[Kyle Mooney]

Just the animal.

[David Wain]

Or podcats.

[Beck Bennett]

Podcast.

[Ken Marino]

Podcasts.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay, so. So we have two pitches here.

[David Wain]

Oh, oh, wait a minute. No, I've got a better one.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, all right. Well, I'm sticking with podcasts.

[Beck Bennett]

Podcasts are really good.

[David Wain]

What if your podcast is interviewing thought leaders?

[Beck Bennett]

Okay.

[David Wain]

Like, bring in people.

[Ken Marino]

Thought weavers.

[David Wain]

Thought leaders who can tell. You can, like, talk.

[Ken Marino]

I like thought weavers.

[David Wain]

Experts in things like AI or culture, you know, and then they can talk about that, and you can ask them questions.

[Ken Marino]

That's fresh.

[Beck Bennett]

That's good.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Well, now, do you.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. Do we.

[Beck Bennett]

What do we want to do with these guys?

[Kyle Mooney]

In theory, we'd maybe have to. I think somebody here would have to be the thought leader.

[David Wain]

Yeah, I'm a thought leader, but they're also.

[Beck Bennett]

Podcasts is on the table, too.

[Ken Marino]

Podcasts is my pitch, but also my backup is thought weavers. Right.

[David Wain]

Oh, Thai cooking.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, that would be great, because I don't even know how to do it, but I love the food. I love food.

[Beck Bennett]

I've cooked Thai stuff before.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Okay.

[Ken Marino]

See, so then you can be the kind of the guy who knows it all.

[Beck Bennett]

I can be the thought weaver salad.

[Ken Marino]

I'm just learning, like, oh, whoa.

[Kyle Mooney]

How'd you do that?

[Ken Marino]

What are the spices? I don't know.

[Kyle Mooney]

Problem.

[David Wain]

The only problem with it is that there's a much better idea because it's so hot Pot, pickle ball. Right?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Pickleball is good, too.

[Beck Bennett]

We. These are all great ideas.

[Kyle Mooney]

I have my. I. I got to say I'm leaning a certain way.

[Beck Bennett]

Then you go with that. Go.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's not. I feel like we could all have. Are you leaning something?

[David Wain]

I am not leaning better.

[Ken Marino]

For the love of better be podcast.

[Kyle Mooney]

I am leaning podcast.

[Beck Bennett]

I'm leaning podcast, too.

[David Wain]

I'm fine with it.

[Beck Bennett]

It's open. We can do. But we can bring any of these. We can bring thought weavers, and maybe

[Ken Marino]

a cat eats Thai food and you're like, well, if you break off and you start talking about Thai food, by the way.

[David Wain]

Way.

[Beck Bennett]

Right.

[Ken Marino]

Maybe cat's not good for cats, but for me, slam dunk.

[David Wain]

No, no. But you got to stay in your niche or you're never going to make it on the social algorithm.

[Kyle Mooney]

But have you heard some of These podcasts, they just sort of meander, right? So it's like. It's a podcast podcast. All of a sudden you're talking about what did I do with my underwear last night? Whatever.

[Beck Bennett]

It's like, meow. Where'd you guys go for. Where do you guys like to get coffee?

[David Wain]

Oh, I know what you mean. So, like, for example, say two hosts are starting a Monday morning show show. And they start with like, oh, how was your weekend?

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes.

[David Wain]

Got it.

[Kyle Mooney]

But then it gets into, like, the today of, like, the Roman history or whatever.

[Ken Marino]

I have something for the holidays. Okay, now we. Christmas. That's great, right? Or happy new meow.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, maybe it's a.

[Ken Marino]

The.

[Beck Bennett]

The holiday episode of a POD podcast.

[Ken Marino]

Podcast is Happy, Happy new meow.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, Happy new Meow.

[Kyle Mooney]

Happy new meow.

[Ken Marino]

From.

[Kyle Mooney]

From the podcast.

[Ken Marino]

From the podcast. Or meowy. We wish you a meowy Christmas.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, okay. Okay, perfect. We'll be right back with the Christmas episode of.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, wait, no, no. David has. David has that.

[David Wain]

This is sort of separate. I have something for the holidays, which is a. I've gone bring you a fruit basket.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, that's sweet.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, in the podcast.

[David Wain]

No, nothing to do with podcast. Separate.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay.

[Ken Marino]

Thank you.

[Kyle Mooney]

So we're coming soon. We'll be right back with POD with a very. With our holiday episode of the podcast, Meowy Christmas.

[Beck Bennett]

Meowy Christmas.

[Rochelle]

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[Beck Bennett]

Hey, bud. What's. What's going on?

[Ken Marino]

Not much for me.

[Kyle Mooney]

How are you doing, Raoul?

[Beck Bennett]

I'm pretty good meow right now.

[Kyle Mooney]

Very meowy Christmas to you.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Happy, happy meow year to you, Kyle. I gotta say, you seem a little bit hornier than normal.

[Kyle Mooney]

I had, I had, I had such an interesting thing happened to me.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

When I was walking, I was walking to my bowl that Lizzy puts out for me.

[Beck Bennett]

That's incredible. Yeah. Lizzy. Shout out. Lizzy, you're.

[Kyle Mooney]

And I was like, now wait a second, something's not right here. What is that smell?

[Beck Bennett]

What was the smell?

[Kyle Mooney]

It turns out that there was an old banana peel and it's like. And I'm like, okay, that seems.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, there goes the mic.

[Kyle Mooney]

I start tossing around, having the time of my life. And I'm like, wow. For me, a cat, really, anything can be fun.

[Beck Bennett]

That's an incredible point. That's a really incredible point. Do you ever, do you ever go in the litter box?

[Kyle Mooney]

Uh huh. Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

I go, well up your old shits.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes. And it's, it's hardened, right.

[Beck Bennett]

And it's kind of like caked in the kitty litter stuff.

[Ken Marino]

Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

Do you ever eat them or hide?

[Kyle Mooney]

I, I find that, I find that uncouth.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay. I like to eat my.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's a, it's a very special time of the year. I'm having a good time.

[Ken Marino]

Meow.

[David Wain]

Right?

[Kyle Mooney]

Meow with you.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, it's an absolutely. That's perfect.

[Kyle Mooney]

Pause.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes. Pause for applause. No, but podcast, that's what it's all about. You told us. Podcast. That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow everybody.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. We have very meow guests.

[Ken Marino]

Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, Meowy Christmas.

[Beck Bennett]

Meowy Christmas.

[Kyle Mooney]

And yum Reno and David Wayne.

[David Wain]

Meow, meow.

[Kyle Mooney]

Hello.

[David Wain]

Meow, meow, meow, meow. I love this time of year because when it's Meowy Christmas, I get a little present, which is a little cat scratcher.

[Beck Bennett]

And. And so you get a little. You get a little cat scratcher.

[David Wain]

Well, I hope so if I've been a good cat this year. Meow, meow, meow.

[Beck Bennett]

What do you.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, I'm looking over. You look like a fine cat to meow.

[Beck Bennett]

What are you gonna do with that cat scratcher? What do you, what do you, what's your first like what did you bring?

[David Wain]

My little claws. And I go and I'm very happy. Meow, meow, meow.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

That's incredible.

[Ken Marino]

Meow, meow.

[Kyle Mooney]

I'm getting.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay. Yeah.

[David Wain]

What are you gonna get for Christmas?

[Beck Bennett]

Meow, meow. Ken, did you hear the meow question?

[Ken Marino]

Yes, I did.

[Kyle Mooney]

What are you hoping for, meow?

[Ken Marino]

Anything you're hoping to get for Christmas? Yeah, I'm hoping to get, like, a play toy of some sort. Maybe something I can just, like, you know, play with my owner, who can just kind of wiggle the thing around and I can swat it around.

[David Wain]

Yeah. Now, Ken, what about.

[Ken Marino]

What. I'm also hoping to take some. Get some pills so I don't get worms. Yeah, but what about.

[David Wain]

Do you ever feel like meow, meow on Christmas, you'd like to have a little treat? Meow, meow, meow.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

What the is up with that?

[Ken Marino]

No, I mean, you know, I like a treat all times, not just for Christmas.

[David Wain]

Oh, yeah. All times. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

He's sexy as all hell.

[Ken Marino]

What kind of is it?

[Beck Bennett]

Everybody's a little horny today. That's the way cats are.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, that's the way. That's the way. What's her name on old. The old Batman. That's Catwoman.

[David Wain]

Yeah. Eartha Kit.

[Ken Marino]

Eartha Kitt. You're like the Eartha Kit cat.

[Rochelle]

Cat.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, my God.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, my God.

[Ken Marino]

Did I just fall into. Did I just.

[Beck Bennett]

Incredible cat.

[Ken Marino]

Come up with a. The next movie title specific type of candy.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[Ken Marino]

An Eartha KitKat.

[Beck Bennett]

Meow. Oh, somebody's in. He.

[Ken Marino]

When my cat would. Yeah. When my cat would catch an animal.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

And come and bring the animal to the.

[Rochelle]

The.

[Ken Marino]

The back door. Yeah. And want to come in with the animal. Present the animal to us.

[David Wain]

Bird.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, bird.

[Ken Marino]

It would go.

[Beck Bennett]

Wow, that is.

[Kyle Mooney]

That does sound like.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

I needed to pause and double check something. Oh, they're going to CGI that. So we look like cats.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Okay. Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay. Like right now in this video, our faces are cats.

[Ken Marino]

Just cat. Is it just a cat mask or is like. Do we have the whole. Is it a whole thing?

[Beck Bennett]

It's the whole thing.

[Ken Marino]

How much. What's your.

[David Wain]

I'm just glad I was born a cat. Meow, meow, meow, meow.

[Kyle Mooney]

God, why?

[Ken Marino]

When you do it, it's just. It's really unsettling.

[Beck Bennett]

I think it's. I think it's.

[Kyle Mooney]

To me, I feel like you're. You're finding something deep within that is.

[Beck Bennett]

Something's coming.

[David Wain]

I'm personally creeped out by it, but I Can't help it. Cuz God is my co pilot.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes, yes, absolutely. You're. You're a vessel for God and I.

[Kyle Mooney]

Cats are sexy. That's the thing.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes, yes, we are sexy.

[Rochelle]

Be.

[Ken Marino]

Yes, we are. Meow, meow, meow. We're sexy.

[David Wain]

James Stewart.

[Ken Marino]

Hello, you old building and lone. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.

[Kyle Mooney]

The thing is, I re. I stepping out of character.

[David Wain]

I just. I'm wonder what it would be like if Arnold Schwarzenegger. Okay, okay. Was a cat.

[Beck Bennett]

All right.

[David Wain]

What would that sound like?

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, I wonder.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, I wonder what that would sound like.

[Ken Marino]

Ar be cat.

[Kyle Mooney]

Nice.

[Ken Marino]

Sure. I know you were genuinely like that a lot.

[David Wain]

And what was that?

[Kyle Mooney]

Cat.

[David Wain]

And that.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, you like that.

[Kyle Mooney]

Not.

[Ken Marino]

I said the cat.

[Kyle Mooney]

I guess I only know that night cat thoughts.

[David Wain]

I feel like all cats are creepy.

[Ken Marino]

That's a cat like you would see in Greece that has like three legs. Been inbred like five times.

[Beck Bennett]

I'm a street cat.

[Ken Marino]

I live on the str.

[Beck Bennett]

Pretty good.

[Kyle Mooney]

That is bad.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Not bad.

[Ken Marino]

No, very, very good.

[Beck Bennett]

Crazy.

[David Wain]

What about a cat that's from New York?

[Kyle Mooney]

Hey, what are you looking at?

[Ken Marino]

Meow.

[Beck Bennett]

Did you have a taxi?

[Kyle Mooney]

Hey, Caxie.

[David Wain]

Hey. Ask me where I like to eat in New York.

[Ken Marino]

Cats is deli.

[David Wain]

Oh, no. But just do it again.

[Ken Marino]

I wish you would have said ask

[David Wain]

me what my favorite deli is.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. What's your favorite deli?

[David Wain]

Cats. Oh, timing.

[Ken Marino]

I wish you would.

[Kyle Mooney]

What's your favorite Broadway. What's your favorite Broadway show?

[David Wain]

Cats.

[Ken Marino]

That's great.

[David Wain]

And who's my favorite account? Jeremy? Cats.

[Ken Marino]

Cats. Cats and cats.

[Kyle Mooney]

And who was my favorite pet? What's your favorite pet?

[David Wain]

Favorite pet? Cats.

[Beck Bennett]

And what's your favorite food?

[David Wain]

Cats. Oh, you've script me.

[Ken Marino]

No, it's cats.

[David Wain]

No, it's not cats. It's a pasta.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah. Does Al eat cats? No, he eats dogs. So you're kind of doing that.

[David Wain]

I was going to joke and say my favorite food is Linguini Alfredo, but I'm not going to say it because it's too fat.

[Ken Marino]

I was. I was going to say.

[Beck Bennett]

But that's okay.

[David Wain]

No, I don't want to put that out there.

[Kyle Mooney]

I was going.

[Ken Marino]

When you said ask me what my favorite restaurant is, this is what I thought you were going to say, ask me what my favorite.

[David Wain]

What's your favorite restaurant?

[Ken Marino]

Luger.

[David Wain]

Oh, yeah, that is the best.

[Beck Bennett]

That. That's your favorite.

[Kyle Mooney]

Peter Luger.

[Beck Bennett]

Peter Lugers.

[Ken Marino]

No, that's. I thought that's what he was going to say, cuz. He loves Luger. Do your Luger bit.

[David Wain]

It's not a bit.

[Kyle Mooney]

Come on.

[Beck Bennett]

It's fine if it's not a bit.

[Ken Marino]

It doesn't have to be environment right here. You don't have to do it.

[David Wain]

You know, there's some great steak restaurants in New York. Yeah, like what? What could. Any.

[Kyle Mooney]

Keens is my favorite.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Any others? I've been to Keens, Johnny?

[David Wain]

No, guys. Lugers. That's it. That, that is. That is like a total non. Bit that our friend Paul Rudd. Every time we are in a place, he's like, David does this great bit about.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, my God.

[David Wain]

And I'm like, it's. It's not like no one's gonna get it. No one's gonna appreciate it.

[Beck Bennett]

I feel like anytime that's been teed up like you do a bit in the moment and there are certain circumstances that make it funny. Recently somebody did that to me. They're like, do that, do that, do the guy looking for change. We can't find the thing. And I did it. And people are like, right.

[David Wain]

It's the worst way to.

[Kyle Mooney]

But that I laughed.

[David Wain]

It was the right place.

[Kyle Mooney]

Smith of Wolensky. That's the other one.

[David Wain]

It's rarely a good thing when you're like, this guy says something so funny.

[Ken Marino]

Do it. No, no. Lugers.

[David Wain]

The other one that he does here, this. This is the other bit that he always makes me do, which is nobody gets.

[Ken Marino]

Who's this?

[David Wain]

Our friend Paul Rudd.

[Ken Marino]

Hold for applause.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's actually really cool.

[David Wain]

So.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, it's super cool.

[Beck Bennett]

That's actually. Yeah, that actually is.

[Kyle Mooney]

You're actually friends, though.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[David Wain]

Remember, in the. In the earlier days of television, there were really only three networks where it was abc, NBC, and. What was the other one? CBS Pharmacy. Let me do take two.

[Ken Marino]

Okay.

[David Wain]

There were all these networks in the old days. It was. What was it? ABC and NBC and cbs Pharmacy.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, also a good environment to do it.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Workshop it and I'll just.

[David Wain]

No, but he'd be like, hey, random person, check out my friend's joke about cbs.

[Kyle Mooney]

I. I set you up recently for. To do the voice of Ed Edgar from Men in Black.

[Beck Bennett]

Sure, sure.

[Kyle Mooney]

Have you guys seen the movie Men in Black?

[David Wain]

Oh, sure. Meow, meow, meow

[Beck Bennett]

in that.

[David Wain]

Yes, I remember. He's all crazy, right? Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Watch my. Watch my pal Cat over here doing nice impression.

[Ken Marino]

Street cat is back. Oh, no, that's.

[David Wain]

What. That's good.

[Beck Bennett]

Everybody has an idea.

[David Wain]

I remember that. That was great.

[Beck Bennett]

Thank you.

[Kyle Mooney]

And of course, we always like to Do I want to be set up? What's a cat who is in the.

[Ken Marino]

The.

[Kyle Mooney]

The Shining and the Last Goodbye.

[David Wain]

Hey, what does a cat from the Shining and the Last Goodbye sound like?

[Ken Marino]

Or Two Jakes.

[David Wain]

Or the Two Jakes.

[Ken Marino]

Chinatown and Two Jakes.

[Kyle Mooney]

Is it okay, okay, okay. Give me a second.

[David Wain]

Oh, I see where he's going.

[Ken Marino]

I figured out.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Wouldn't be bad to. To get these whiskers fixed, right?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah,

[Ken Marino]

But it was a really good Jack Nicholson. You stumbled on it, then you attached it to the cat theme and it was really nice.

[Kyle Mooney]

I really liked it. Thanks.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah, it was really great.

[David Wain]

What about out? Here's my saucer of milk.

[Kyle Mooney]

That is a really good chop in

[David Wain]

your head because that's Jack Nicholson.

[Beck Bennett]

He's got the.

[David Wain]

That hairline.

[Beck Bennett]

I could see the hair slicked back,

[David Wain]

but I wasn't doing it. I was just doing that.

[Ken Marino]

I know, but why? You had a fever.

[Kyle Mooney]

What about this? Hey, Stanley, I hate to say it, I forgot my feline.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Wain]

Good.

[Beck Bennett]

That's fantastic.

[David Wain]

Didn't bring his cat to set that day.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. How about something like, okay, you want the cats? You can't handle the cats. I don't know. It's pretty good. I don't know.

[David Wain]

That is pretty good.

[Ken Marino]

Good.

[David Wain]

It reminds me.

[Ken Marino]

Other than you want the milk. No, but honestly, you can't handle the milk.

[David Wain]

I swear to God. Other than just like a couple things that you said differently. It reminds me of that Few Good Men monologue that Jack Nicholson did.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, sure, yeah.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

I think that's what he's taking it from.

[David Wain]

Oh, really?

[Kyle Mooney]

I think.

[Beck Bennett]

I think so, but I'm not sure.

[David Wain]

Okay, cool, Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, that was good. Good.

[Beck Bennett]

Thank you.

[Ken Marino]

What do you want me to do with the chicken? I want you to put it in my dinner bowl.

[David Wain]

Yeah, that reminds me of Five Easy Pieces.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, Five Easy Pieces, that's good.

[Kyle Mooney]

Who else could be like a. Really kind of like. That's not a cat.

[David Wain]

I would expect Sylvester.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, right.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Wait, what? The sign. Right.

[David Wain]

Do you want to know a little trick? I just remembered, Adrian. If you say thuc, T, H, U, C, K, then you can get away with doing a four letter word, but the actual. Sounds like it, but you didn't really say it, so you can't get in trouble.

[Ken Marino]

That's amazing.

[Kyle Mooney]

And is. Because. Is there going to be like a. Is there. How naughty is the new movie? Is there going to be like a TV version? Is there a version where like, you say the F word and we could use.

[David Wain]

I Don't think there's any nudity in it.

[Kyle Mooney]

There is no nudity.

[David Wain]

There's no nudity. There's a few. There's a few four letter curses.

[Kyle Mooney]

So you can replace those for like.

[David Wain]

Yeah, we will place them before we release it with a good.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, because you regret having the swear words in there.

[David Wain]

I just forgot.

[Ken Marino]

Easy, you know, it's easy.

[Beck Bennett]

It's easy.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, it's easy.

[Beck Bennett]

You make a better choice.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, yeah, let's. Let's beat that. Let's beat that.

[Beck Bennett]

Let's. We don't need to be that.

[Kyle Mooney]

All right, well, it's time of the show where we. Where we talk about our. I favorite iconic fictional cats. So everybody's, I imagine, has. Has made their decision.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, I'm sure we've all got it locked and loaded. Kyle, do you want to start off or you want to let our guests start. Take this away.

[Kyle Mooney]

I'll start off and I will say. I'll give a little background. Okay. He's. This. Here's the thing. He's an orange cat, but he's not the orange cat that you think of. He's a little. I've always been sort of into the like.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

[Rochelle]

About.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah, we all know.

[Kyle Mooney]

You might. You might see him with, you know, a fish bone or something like that.

[Ken Marino]

I know who you're talking about.

[Beck Bennett]

Yep.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay, so what do you want me

[Beck Bennett]

to say or not?

[Ken Marino]

I don't know. Am I supposed to guess?

[David Wain]

No, that's not the format. He's going to say his.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, all right.

[Kyle Mooney]

No, we can do. We can do it.

[Beck Bennett]

I thought he was supposed to guess.

[Ken Marino]

I'm excited cuz I used to collect his. The. The books.

[Kyle Mooney]

Okay. Ken, who am I. He's clicking.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

I didn't know Heathcliff had any books.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, that. He had tons of them.

[Kyle Mooney]

I didn't know you collected them.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, well, I'm telling you now, this is breaking news.

[Kyle Mooney]

Without them or.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Did you bring them? Still have. I brought them with me. Yeah. They're my. My car. I got all my books that I collected in my car.

[Beck Bennett]

Amazing.

[Ken Marino]

And it's.

[Beck Bennett]

You have all your books that you collect in your car.

[Ken Marino]

It's mostly Heathcliff.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, that's great because I didn't like

[Ken Marino]

the Garfield as much as the Heathcliff cliff. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

And what is.

[Beck Bennett]

Lives in a dump.

[Kyle Mooney]

We know. Yeah, that's the thing. He just hangs around the junkyard.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Yeah. He's a street cat.

[Ken Marino]

I don't remember.

[Kyle Mooney]

I remember the.

[Ken Marino]

I remember the Fish bones.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, character. I think he has a fish bone.

[Ken Marino]

Fish bones. Okay.

[Kyle Mooney]

What about you, Beck?

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, what's the. What's the.

[Ken Marino]

What's the bit here?

[Beck Bennett]

No, the.

[David Wain]

We're naming our favorite cats from. From fictional world.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, got it, got it, got it.

[Beck Bennett]

It's not a bit.

[David Wain]

It's not a bit.

[Beck Bennett]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ken Marino]

My God, that's not. I didn't mean that.

[Beck Bennett]

It's not funny.

[David Wain]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Wait.

[Kyle Mooney]

Sorry, who, me talking or what?

[Ken Marino]

Huh?

[Kyle Mooney]

Heathcliff stuff was not a bit. What are we saying? Are you about to be very sincere?

[Beck Bennett]

That's what the. What the bit was.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, yeah. This is not a bit.

[David Wain]

No, it's not a bit.

[Beck Bennett]

What did I.

[Kyle Mooney]

Did I say bit?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, he said, what's the bit?

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, no, no, no. This is a part of our show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ken Marino]

No, no, I didn't mean it.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's all good.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, my God.

[David Wain]

Be respectful.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Okay, okay. For a second, I was like, okay,

[Ken Marino]

don't forget messed up.

[Kyle Mooney]

To meowy Christmas and a meowy year.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, no. Happy meow year.

[Ken Marino]

Happy new Meow.

[David Wain]

What's your entry in this one? Meow. Meow.

[Beck Bennett]

Mine is. It's got to be Mr. Mustofeles.

[David Wain]

Oh, great.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

I love Mr.

[Kyle Mooney]

He's. Go ahead, please.

[Beck Bennett]

No, no, he's just wonderful. The way he moves and sings. He's very important. He's got a lot of stature. He's an important cat.

[David Wain]

I like that. He's important, too.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, yeah. Mr. Mustafa.

[Kyle Mooney]

But he also, like.

[Ken Marino]

He's the presence.

[Kyle Mooney]

The assumption is that he's magical, but maybe he's not actually that.

[Ken Marino]

Isn't he an alien? Or is that the sweet transvestite?

[Beck Bennett]

That's.

[Ken Marino]

And Rocky Horror. Isn't the. Isn't the sweet transvestite an alien?

[David Wain]

The. About.

[Beck Bennett]

I don't know. No, I. I don't. I don't. I actually don't know.

[Kyle Mooney]

Mr. Mestophiles is from cats.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, but I. But they came from space, too, right?

[David Wain]

Nope.

[Kyle Mooney]

Maybe none of them.

[Ken Marino]

What is that big thing at the end where they come down?

[David Wain]

They're having fun.

[Ken Marino]

They're just having fun.

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, they're trying to become Jellicoe cats, so maybe that's. When they become Jellicoe cats.

[David Wain]

They go to heaven.

[Ken Marino]

They go to heaven. Or there's a space.

[David Wain]

No, space.

[Ken Marino]

Aliens. Cat aliens.

[Beck Bennett]

I. You know, we can. We can do a rewatch.

[Ken Marino]

That would be not.

[Beck Bennett]

Well, yeah, I guess we don't. Really have the time. But yeah, Mr. Mistoffeles is.

[Ken Marino]

He's. He's your favorite.

[Beck Bennett]

He's my favorite.

[Ken Marino]

That's not a bit. That's the. That's the genuine truth.

[Beck Bennett]

No joke. What are you guys favorite cats?

[David Wain]

This is a. This was a. Originally in the movies version played by Keanu Reeves. And it's John Wick, he's a dangerous cat.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, so wait, you're saying that in John Wick it was originally a cat?

[David Wain]

No, I'm saying he's like a.

[Kyle Mooney]

He's a cat.

[Beck Bennett]

Like, oh, he's a cool cat.

[Kyle Mooney]

He's a dangerous cat.

[Beck Bennett]

And that does that. That counts.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, it's great.

[David Wain]

Thanks, Ken. How about you?

[Beck Bennett]

Well, I think I know what you're gonna pick, but go ahead.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, you do?

[Beck Bennett]

I don't know.

[Rochelle]

Let's see.

[Ken Marino]

There's a couple. It's a sort of a tie. There's, you know, of course, great comic duo, Tom and Jerry.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yep.

[Ken Marino]

You gotta get. You gotta give props to Tom.

[David Wain]

You gotta do it, you gotta do it. Customary thing. We know it, we do it, you know.

[Ken Marino]

OG.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh, gee.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, right. And then there's that, there's that goddamn commercial. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow meow. And that, that's a tender vittles cat.

[Beck Bennett]

Tender vittles.

[Kyle Mooney]

Great.

[David Wain]

I feel like I'm choice.

[Beck Bennett]

That's a good choice. Cuz that is iconic.

[Ken Marino]

Iconic. It's like, where's the beef of cat of cats.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes, absolutely.

[Beck Bennett]

And there's the. What's the dog one? The. Yeah, yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

I don't know. Begging strips.

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Bacon strips.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

And he goes, oh, is it me or does.

[David Wain]

You're watching the show. And they cut the commercial. They come back and then you. Almost two minutes later, they cut the commercial again. How many ads do we have to watch?

[Ken Marino]

It's not you. It's not you.

[Beck Bennett]

It's not.

[Ken Marino]

That is what is happening.

[Beck Bennett]

You tapped into something here that's actually

[Kyle Mooney]

really interesting to think about.

[David Wain]

Yeah, it is really interesting.

[Beck Bennett]

Why so many commercials?

[Kyle Mooney]

Well, I think it's. I think it's this corporate. It's like.

[Ken Marino]

I don't know, I. You know.

[Kyle Mooney]

You agree with.

[David Wain]

Well, half the time I feel like a lot of these corporations are in it just to. To make money, I think, you know.

[Ken Marino]

You think they. Well, maybe.

[David Wain]

Maybe some of them are anyway.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

I mean, some of them are legitimately

[Beck Bennett]

trying to help us.

[Kyle Mooney]

Some of it's funny.

[Rochelle]

Sure.

[Ken Marino]

Some of it's very funny.

[Kyle Mooney]

Begging strips is funny.

[Beck Bennett]

I watch. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yes. So sometimes it's entertaining. I'm like, okay, I'm okay with a little break. You're right. Sometimes I'm like, I don't need this shit stuffed down my throat.

[David Wain]

I've seen it. So help me God. My buddy and I were watching a movie the other night.

[Ken Marino]

Which guy? Which buddy?

[David Wain]

Scott.

[Ken Marino]

Okay.

[David Wain]

And some dad comes on for some. I don't know, some medicine. Who cares? It doesn't matter. It's not important to the story, you know? Keep watching the movie and watching. Watching. Watch the movie like we do. Just watch the movie. Next ad comes on.

[Ken Marino]

You and Scott loved it.

[David Wain]

The commercial break comes on the same ad. They play it again.

[Kyle Mooney]

What the hell?

[David Wain]

During this same movie. So help me God.

[Ken Marino]

Why are you so upset about it?

[David Wain]

I don't. I'm not upset about it.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. What made you think he was upset about it?

[David Wain]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Well, he pounded his fist on the emphasis.

[Kyle Mooney]

I. I'm with Ken. It seemed like there was genuine frustration.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, I got it.

[David Wain]

No, I thought it was a great. I'm really excited about it.

[Beck Bennett]

Just a master.

[Ken Marino]

That's your excitement. That's how you get.

[David Wain]

Oh, my God.

[Ken Marino]

I'm so happy you like seeing commercials. The same commercial place.

[David Wain]

Nothing gets me more horny, honestly.

[Ken Marino]

Oh, and then what's your favorite part about being horny?

[David Wain]

Just the ongoing feeling of it.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. But then that little. That one little part, maybe.

[David Wain]

No, not anymore.

[Ken Marino]

No.

[Kyle Mooney]

Oh, it's changed.

[David Wain]

It's changed because now I'm a cat.

[Beck Bennett]

Well, that was an incredible exploration on cats, as it always is.

[Kyle Mooney]

As we always. Yeah, we always have. I really feel it's.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, I really.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's always a great time with. With you. It's always beck. Catnip.

[Beck Bennett]

It's always. And I'm feeling feline fine. Sitting here with you, talking about cats with our guests, it was a really.

[Ken Marino]

Well, you.

[Kyle Mooney]

We definitely spun an interesting tale.

[Beck Bennett]

Very good.

[David Wain]

Think about this tail. Like, cat tail.

[Ken Marino]

I hope you do that.

[Beck Bennett]

I hope you do this shit. That was amazing.

[Kyle Mooney]

I hope.

[Beck Bennett]

You didn't even realize you did that. That.

[David Wain]

Here comes.

[Ken Marino]

I hope you guys do this show forever.

[Beck Bennett]

Yes, that would be perfect. For sure, for sure, for sure.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, they're all.

[Ken Marino]

It's all.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's all hilarious ass puns.

[Beck Bennett]

That's. Yeah, that's. If you didn't catch it. We're, like, doing some cat puns here.

[David Wain]

Okay. Okay. Can I try one then?

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, Give it a bang one out.

[David Wain]

I hope that the. We Have a good time on the When. Next time we have the. This episode.

[Kyle Mooney]

That's fucking amazing.

[Beck Bennett]

I don't. What do you. What's amazing to you? Because I feel like you're just blowing smoke up his ass.

[Kyle Mooney]

No, no, that's like the David Wayne.

[David Wain]

Yeah, I'm not sure if I 100%

[Ken Marino]

get the bit yet, but he's, he's, he's supporting you.

[David Wain]

Okay. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. He loved Pretty Funny.

[Beck Bennett]

That was amazing, David. That was fantastic.

[Kyle Mooney]

Thanks for.

[Beck Bennett]

Thanks for coming by the guy.

[Kyle Mooney]

Thanks for still doing what you guys do after all these years.

[David Wain]

Oh, yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

I can't wait to see. And we'll see you next time on podcasts. Happy, happy Meow year Meow meow meow

[David Wain]

meow meow meow meow Merry meow meow meow.

[Kyle Mooney]

That was great.

[Beck Bennett]

That was a fantastic. That was one of the best podcasts. I mean, and I do say this every time. Every time. That was one of the best podcasts.

[David Wain]

Just to underline how much. How sincere I am. I do say this every time.

[Beck Bennett]

And every time I'm totally sincere.

[David Wain]

By the way, the cat character that we saw before, he's gone now. And David is back.

[Beck Bennett]

David's back. A little less horny than before.

[David Wain]

No, no, no. Yeah. That was just me playing my character. Now I'm back.

[Kyle Mooney]

I want to take some. I feel like I. I fucked up in one way or another.

[Beck Bennett]

No way, dude. You were absolutely perfect.

[Kyle Mooney]

The banana peel thing, I didn't know where I was going. You're gonna know.

[Ken Marino]

The cat likes to play with, like, toys and she's a banana peel.

[Beck Bennett]

Everybody knows cats play with banana peels.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, that's a. That's a given. Chance to set the tone, but just brutal honesty.

[David Wain]

Yeah, you did fuck up, but, you know, you move. You gotta get back on the horse.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, you have to get back on the horse. You have to keep.

[Kyle Mooney]

Thanks for being.

[David Wain]

And it wasn't. It wasn't like it didn't kill it. So. So what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

[Beck Bennett]

Exactly. You.

[Kyle Mooney]

And we found some really interesting things. I think about some of the cat stuff we did was really, really good.

[David Wain]

Really, really, really good.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, really, really good.

[Kyle Mooney]

So, like, it's a trade off.

[Ken Marino]

I would. I mean, I don't want to go against the grain, but I would say it was really, really, really good.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, I mean, that's.

[David Wain]

I just think. I mean, the question is, like, how many vertical clips are we gonna squeeze out of that? I'm gonna say 10.

[Beck Bennett]

I would. I honestly I would like to pump out 10 clips in a. Within a week.

[Ken Marino]

I would say.

[Kyle Mooney]

Are you guys meow.

[Beck Bennett]

I will tell you perfect pun.

[David Wain]

There's nothing I like more than just sitting down and just pumping out clips.

[Beck Bennett]

Oh I know.

[Ken Marino]

Here we go.

[David Wain]

I love content.

[Beck Bennett]

Content reclipping. Same clip just a year. Six every six months. Take it down. Re.

[David Wain]

Upload it. Yes. Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

As if it's new. Well you guys can count on us for that. It was great sitting down with you guys. Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

Truly such a pleasure.

[Beck Bennett]

Really was incredible. You guys have always feeling is mutual.

[Kyle Mooney]

The movie is out now.

[David Wain]

We're big fans of you guys.

[Beck Bennett]

Thank you. We're huge fan big. I. I'm going to say bigger fans which is fine. I'm. But I. I can say we're bigger fans of yours.

[David Wain]

Let's leave it at that.

[Beck Bennett]

But we've looked up to you for so long. You continue to honestly continue to be.

[David Wain]

We're still going.

[Beck Bennett]

I know. That's what I'm saying. With what you continue to do.

[Ken Marino]

It's like crazy after all. Yes.

[Beck Bennett]

I feel like if we can still.

[Ken Marino]

Crazy.

[Beck Bennett]

You got those pipes.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah. I like the.

[David Wain]

He's the lead singer of the band.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. You could see more of that middle aged dad

[Ken Marino]

mad jb.

[Beck Bennett]

That's what I'm to going.

[Ken Marino]

Going with. I just did.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Ken Marino]

Okay.

[Kyle Mooney]

Sorry. That's.

[Ken Marino]

That's what I thought.

[Kyle Mooney]

Crazy.

[Ken Marino]

And I do the.

[David Wain]

What is wrong with you?

[Beck Bennett]

I do the right after he did.

[Ken Marino]

I do the Tender Vittle's Cat Meow song and that's it.

[Beck Bennett]

And then so crazy.

[David Wain]

I know you're joking but Billy Eilish does do warm ups before each show.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah, I know you're joking but Billie Eilish.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. I was joking.

[Beck Bennett]

Kyle. Is there anything else you have to add besides.

[Kyle Mooney]

No. Check out the movie. It's always. It's always great to be around Ueck. I feel like we're starting to get the hang of this.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. We're starting to get the hang of.

[Kyle Mooney]

It's tough when there's. It's intimidating when you know, heroes come on.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. We would have been much better together if they weren't here is what you're trying to say.

[Ken Marino]

You know what?

[David Wain]

I got to say something. We do not wake up in the morning being like, hey, we're heroes. Every day. Most days.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah, most. But not every day.

[Beck Bennett]

But I wake up thinking that you guys are.

[Kyle Mooney]

But you. I want you to. I want you to keep that back here knowing that that is the reality.

[David Wain]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Beck Bennett]

Just back here somewhere. Just keep it back.

[David Wain]

Just. I'm going to throw a bone. Not a bone. Just a. I'm going to throw something in your guys direction.

[Ken Marino]

Yeah. Would better not be a bone.

[David Wain]

Could Ken and I come back sometime?

[Beck Bennett]

Absolutely.

[David Wain]

Okay.

[Beck Bennett]

We would love that.

[David Wain]

That was. That was what I was going to. That was what I was doing.

[Beck Bennett]

We'd love to have you back. We can. We can grow and build.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, that wouldn't be a problem. Ken Marino and David Wayne, come back to our podcast. Sure, David.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah.

[Kyle Mooney]

You can just stop by whenever you get the chance. We're about to have them on for a second time.

[Beck Bennett]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kyle Mooney]

We'll talk to the producers. Rochelle, we can go ahead and get in touch with somebody. We'll let you know.

[Ken Marino]

I don't believe him.

[Beck Bennett]

Kyle's bursting through. Kyle, your pants. Dude, you're soaking wet again.

[Kyle Mooney]

Thank you so much for coming. I don't know what the hell to do right now.

[Beck Bennett]

There's nothing to do. Go see Kale, Daughtry and the celebrity sex. Pass. Thank you, guys.

[Kyle Mooney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's Our podcast is a Headgum podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.

[Beck Bennett]

The show is produced and engineered by Richelle Chen and Anya Konowskaya with production support from Ali Khan and Ryan Lutzow.

[Kyle Mooney]

Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. Katie Moose is our VP of content at Headgum. Our theme music is made by us.

[Beck Bennett]

For more podcasts by headgum, visit headcom.com or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Kyle Mooney]

Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[Beck Bennett]

Sterling K. Brown.

[Ken Marino]

And I'm Chris Sullivan. And we host the podcast that Was Us now on Headgum.

[Kyle Mooney]

Each episode, we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show.

[Ken Marino]

This is Us.

[Rochelle]

That's right.

[Kyle Mooney]

We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[Beck Bennett]

Are we gonna cry? Yes, a little bit. Are we gonna laugh a lot?

[David Wain]

A whole lot.

[Beck Bennett]

That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to that Was Us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube

[David Wain]

or Spotify new episodes every Tuesday.

[Rochelle]

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