Tig Notaro

Summary

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What's Our Podcast? with Beck Bennett & Kyle Mooney

Episode: Tig Notaro (Dec 31, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this rich and playful episode, Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney continue their search for the true identity of their podcast—with the help of their special guest, acclaimed comedian Tig Notaro. Amid the signature nonsense and digressions that define the show, the hosts and Tig riff on topics ranging from New Year's rituals and parenting dilemmas to the surprisingly fascinating world of mountain goats. The episode stands out for its mix of goofy improvisation, sincere conversation, and an ultimately heartfelt exploration of life, death, and living with purpose.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. In Search of a Podcast Theme

[00:16–04:22]

• Beck and Kyle open with humorous banter and self-referential confusion about the purpose of their podcast.
• Discussion of potential New Year’s Eve instructions devolves into absurd, intentionally convoluted directions.
• “We don’t know what our podcast is about, and I still don’t know what you’re about.” — Beck Bennett [01:29]
• Kyle proposes listeners could time the podcast so Tig’s appearance counts down the New Year, but the hosts rapidly lose track of their own logic.

2. New Year’s Eve Chitchat and Resolutions

[04:22–13:00]

• The hosts joke about warm-up routines and longstanding quirks (e.g., Kyle always having wet hair).
• Playful discussion about healthy resolutions, including reducing phone use and reconnecting with physical, child-like joy (rolling down hills).
• Parenting and physical games from their childhoods are recounted: “You can hyperventilate and kind of strangle each other and pass out—all sorts of fun stuff…” — Beck Bennett, jokingly [15:22]

3. Introduction of Tig Notaro

[16:02]

• Beck expresses both excitement and intimidation about Tig: "When I found out you were coming, I was like, wow, she's coming to talk to us... I'm intimidated." — Beck Bennett [17:38]
• Tig admits she's fresh from a midday bubble bath, explaining her wife is sick and describing the chaos of solo parenting.

4. Parenting — Imagination, Honesty, and Santa Claus

[18:31–25:46]

• The group discusses how they encourage imagination with their kids but struggle with “the gray area” between playing and lying.
• A deep dive into the ethics of the Santa myth—Tig and the hosts reflect on their discomfort with literally lying to children about Santa for behavioral control.
  • "It's a lie. It's a lie." — Tig Notaro [24:03]
• Tig recounts her own childhood experience with “naughty and nice lists,” leading to stressful Christmases with little difference in outcome.

5. Podcast Structure: What Makes a Good Show?

[27:06–34:42]

• Kyle and Beck seek Tig’s advice as a veteran podcaster (now on her fourth show, Handsome).
• Tig explains her current podcast has guests submit video questions, which are then answered and discussed—a format she loves for its simplicity and silliness.
  • “Make it as little of a lift as possible.” — advice recounted by Beck [28:34]
• They reflect on how different audiences and co-hosts engage with feedback, with Tig deliberately avoiding online commentary to protect her peace.

6. From Rock Dreams to Stand-up

[37:08–43:52]

• Discussion shifts to Tig’s early life in music—she once wanted to be a “lesbian folk rock star,” played average drums and guitar, and managed bands before pivoting to comedy due to debilitating stage fright.
  • “I'm the number one person to talk to about going from lesbian folk rock dreams to lesbian comedian reality.” — Tig Notaro [39:21]
• The gang jokes about interviewing without questions, sparking meta-commentary on podcast interviewing styles.

7. Early Comedy Days & First Jokes

[41:59–44:51]

• Tig shares the story of her first stand-up bit: a miscommunication where she’s mistaken for “Pig” instead of “Tig,” leading to years of friends calling her "Pig Tit."
  • “My comedy friends called me Pig Tit for years because of that.” — Tig Notaro [43:52]
• The mood remains loose and silly, with the occasional sharp left turn into sincerity.

8. The Pitch: What Should This Podcast Be?

[45:01–52:01]

• The group finally addresses the premise: each guest suggests what the podcast should be about. Tig’s prompt? A podcast about mountain goats.
  • "Mountain goats, obviously." — Tig Notaro [51:55]

9. The “Mountain Goats” Podcast – A Podcast Within the Podcast

[52:07–77:00]

• Beck, Kyle, and Tig launch into a parody “pilot” of a mountain goat–focused podcast featuring lore, jokes about their supposed ignorance, and increasingly wild Google searches.
  • “You're allowed to have a podcast about mountain goats and not know much about them.” — Beck Bennett [60:29]
• Genuine fascination and laughter erupt as they watch mountain goat videos, marveling at the animals’ gravity-defying abilities.
  • “Once you see this, how do you ever go back to life?” — Tig Notaro [65:02]
• The “click on that” running joke is born—a format where hosts surf Wikipedia links from mountain goats to, say, Sinéad O’Connor.

10. Meaning, Mortality, and Tig’s Documentary

[81:06–88:52]

• The tone shifts for a moving exchange about Tig’s new documentary, Come See Me in the Good Light, chronicling the life and passing of poet Andrea Gibson.
  • “Everybody walks out of the theater with an urgency to live a better life and more meaningful, joyful life. And I am deeply proud of this film.” — Tig Notaro [83:26]
• Tig shares how witnessing death up close changed her priorities—choosing to downgrade her TV commitments to spend more time with family and advocating for open conversations about death.
  • “Death is gonna happen for all of us—surprise. And so it shouldn’t be like you have a dam holding the water back… Have the conversation.” — Tig Notaro [85:13]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

The Search for a Theme

• “We don’t know what our podcast is about, and I still don’t know what you’re about.” — Beck Bennett [01:29]
• “What is this about? It’s about just trying to be yourself and trying to bring joy into the world.” — Kyle Mooney [01:58]

On Parenting/Santa

• “It’s a lie. It’s a lie.” — Tig Notaro [24:03]
• “I love the idea of the three of us parenting together.” — Tig Notaro [25:52]

On Mountain Goats

• “Mountain goats, obviously.” — Tig Notaro [51:55]
• “You're allowed to have a podcast about mountain goats and not know much about them.” — Beck Bennett [60:29]
• “Once you see this, how do you ever go back to life?” — Tig Notaro [65:02]

On Death and Priorities

• “Death is gonna happen for all of us—surprise. And so it shouldn’t be like you have a dam holding the water back… Have the conversation.” — Tig Notaro [85:13]
• “Everybody walks out of the theater with an urgency to live a better life and more meaningful, joyful life.” — Tig Notaro [83:26]

On Silliness

• “On a serious note, I love your nonsense and your silliness. It’s my favorite thing in the world.” — Tig Notaro [89:17]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:16] — Opening Theme & Premise Recap
• [02:52] — Absurd New Year's Episode Instructions
• [11:34] — New Year's Resolutions and Play
• [16:02] — Tig Notaro Enters
• [24:03] — Santa, Parenting, and Lying
• [27:06] — Podcast Advice & Handsome Format
• [37:08] — Tig’s Journey from Music to Comedy
• [41:59] — Tig’s First Stand-up Bit (“Pig Tit”)
• [45:01] — Tig’s Podcast Pitch: Mountain Goats
• [52:07] — The “Mountain Goats” Pilot Podcast Segment
• [81:06] — Tig’s Documentary: Come See Me in the Good Light
• [85:13] — On Death, Family, and Shifting Life Priorities

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Episode Tone and Style

The episode is quintessentially Beck & Kyle: part meta-comedy, part earnest conversation, always teetering between absurdity and emotional candor. Tig’s dry humor and sincerity mesh perfectly, driving home the show’s unique blend of heartfelt takeaways and pure, spontaneous fun.

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Summary Takeaways

• The ever-shifting identity of the podcast is a feature, not a bug—it’s a space for “serious nonsense.”
• Parenting, truth-telling, and childhood innocence are favorite digression zones.
• Tig Notaro brings both comic energy (with riffs on her “Pig Tit” nickname and mountain goats) and depth, sharing wisdom about loss, meaning, and living deliberately.
• The “Mountain Goats” segment is a highlight: zany, improvisational, but surprisingly informative—with a real sense of wonder.
• The episode closes with gratitude, mutual admiration, and a plug for Tig’s moving film—urging listeners to embrace life, silliness, and the inevitability of change.

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Transcript

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This is a headgun podcast.

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What's our podcast? What's it gonna be about? Tell us what's our podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle?

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Dun, dun, dun, dun. It's Super Kyle and it's Beck. Beck, I need your help. The building is under attack.

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I'm trapped under the building. Please help me. Super Kyle.

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Super Kyle is coming to the resc. You. Here I go. I'm lifting up the building.

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I feel so good now. Oh, thanks for coming to the rescue, Super Kyle.

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No problem, Beck. Super Kyle's always going to be there to lift up to help you out through anything.

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That. Dude, that was awesome. Yes. Best intro ever.

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Hey, guys.

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Slaying it king style.

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Hey, give me one second.

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Yep, slaying it like the kings and queens of ye old times.

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Yeah, doing it, doing it, doing it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Get it, get it, get.

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Giggity, giggity, giggity. Go ahead, go ahead, say what you're going to say.

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Hey, guys, Kyle Mooney here.

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Go ahead, say what you were going to say. Oh, and Beck Bennett here, and you're

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listening to what's our podcast? The Pod.

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Well, it's great to connect here on the podcast with you. Welcome to what's our Podcast Podcast, where me and. But Beck Christopher.

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Beck Bennett and Kyle James Koza Mooney.

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Yeah. Where we don't know what our podcast is about, and I still don't know what you're about. Yeah.

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What is this, by the way?

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We really don't know yet. Yeah.

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Scientists are experimenting as we're working on me.

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What is this about? That's an awful question.

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What.

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What is this about? What are you about? As if. As if anybody would have a good, good response for that.

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All right, let's try.

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No, I don't want to try.

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Hit me one more time.

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What is this about?

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It's about just trying to be yourself and trying to bring joy into the world and, I don't know, do onto others as you would want them to do to you while also smiling when you can, I guess.

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Yeah, that's great. That's really great. Crap. I'm getting a call right here on the podcast. It's my wife.

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I did have.

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Probably just calling me to say she misses me or something.

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That's really sweet.

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Yeah. Do you ever call your wife to

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say, hey, I don't have her number?

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Yeah, dude, this is amazing. We're both wearing boat shoes.

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When the. Does this episode come out?

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I don't know. Probably in winter. Is it winter time?

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Does anyone.

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No one's comes out New Year's Day.

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Oh, Happy New Year 1231.

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So New Year's Eve.

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Happy New Year's Eve.

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Oh my gosh. Okay, guys, if you're, if you're listening to this on New Year's Eve, I want. Or on New Year's Eve day. Okay.

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Yes.

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Here are the directions.

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Yes. Okay. Royalty Rocco's.

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Yes. Royalty Rocco's. Yes.

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Yes.

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Okay, if you're listening to this in the afternoon, press pause now.

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Yes.

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Or. Well, don't press pause yet. I'll tell you when to press pause. Yes, press pause in just a few moments. Cuz here's what's going to happen. You're going to want to save this episode for the countdown till midnight. And so that we're going to, we're going to have it set up so that at exactly midnight our guest starts. Talk comes in.

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Yeah. And that's definitely how you want to spend New Year's Eve.

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So giggity giggity giggity quagmire quagmir. So we will. So we're going to let you know. Going to let you know before our guest comes in to pause it.

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Wait, I'm lost on these directions.

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I know.

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Yeah, the directions don't make any sense. So you want people that they're listening to this right now.

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So here's what you do. I'm going to tell everybody if you're a Rocco or if you're a first time listener, which by the way, listen to what's our podcast.

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Yeah.

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If you're a first time listener or you're old Rocco or even if you're one of our bagheads or if you're sick, though what you're going to want to do, I'm gonna tell you when the moment is right before our guest comes in. That's when you pause and then. No, wait, actually this isn't adding up.

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Yeah, you know what? I, you can just, you can just toss the instructions out.

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Okay. Don't everybody keep listening to the podcast. Don't and don't celebrate New Year's Eve tonight.

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Yes. Go into, dig a hole in the ground and put, and go inside there. Yeah. Oh, Oh. Just warming it up. Just warming up the old instrument. Just, just warming up.

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Very interesting way of warming up.

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Beck.

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Yeah. You have to open up the back of the throat. How do you warm up, brother?

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Not today. I have had it.

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Okay, okay, okay. You don't want to, you don't want to do your warmup today, fine. I won't put you on the spot. You don't have to do your warm up today.

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You really open. You really open your mouth that wide?

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Yeah.

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You do that before every podcast?

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Yes, yes, of course. Otherwise I won't be able to talk. Or if I do talk, then I'll probably hurt my voice or something because I.

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Because I have a feeling. And forgive me if I'm starting off this whole thing with a little tension. And I don't want to say beef, but, like, yeah, I've never seen you do that before. Podcast episode before. And I think you're lying.

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I usually do it in the car.

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How wide do you go with your

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mouth as wide as you just saw?

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Let me see it one more time.

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It's just like, kind of getting them waking up.

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So before you. So before you arrive here, you're in your car and you're opening your mouth that way?

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Yeah, Sometimes on the drive, I don't want to. I mean, I don't want to crash, so I often do it at a red light.

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Okay, well, I want to. I want to apologize because I made it seem like you were lying to me, but it sounds like you've actually been doing it this whole time.

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Yeah, I know. I've been totally telling the truth.

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Wait, why did you. Okay, for the. For the listeners who aren't watching the video, which, by the way, is on YouTube, he says, yeah, by the way.

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Yeah. Yeah. All right.

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So as soon as I. So as soon as I. So as soon as I called out back and I was like, all right, well, I apologize, or whatever he said, yeah, I've been doing it for a while. His eyes got so wide. These things are about shooting out of their eyelids. So I'm actually thinking that maybe he was lying the whole time. I'm about to find out right now. Wait, why'd your eyes get so big?

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Okay, truth is, I was lying. I actually don't do that. Warm up all the time.

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Well, even if you don't. All right, go ahead.

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No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was lying to you. I was just kind of like. Wasn't thinking, and I just kind of like created a lie and went with it because I probably didn't have anything else to say, and I didn't really know what to do.

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All good, because I didn't know what to do either. So I said you were lying.

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See, you have not been warming up properly like you are. You're stuck in the back of your throat. Yeah, I actually.

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I can't. I feel like I've got a lock jaw or something. Is my hair still wet?

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No, it's not. Okay. Yeah, it's not wet.

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Cuz that's another thing that is. I. I feel like is classic Kyle of the era you're referring to was my hair was always wet and it was probably wet mostly through. Even when I was in snl. Huh.

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Yeah, it was always pretty wet. You always had wet hair. It was. Why was that? Cuz you were like, did you just shower right before you were going to see people?

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Yeah.

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And then so like, yes. You were freshly wet whenever you saw people and people be like, why is your hair always wet? And you'd be like, well, I just showered.

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And that's true. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think that, like, it's sort of the last thing I do before I go somewhere. Typically, yeah. But now I've started to time it a little better. But today I had some work in the morning and then I went for a jog and I want to shower after. And it got a little too close to podcast time. So I guess it seems like I'm doing fine.

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You're doing great now. Have you ever thought about a blower dryer?

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I have. I. And I. I was actually like, I

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don't know what that does to gifted one.

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When we were. When we made YouTube videos for that studio in some sort of like. I don't know, what are all the different. Not Secret Santa, I guess is the one where you're assigned somebody.

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Yeah.

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And somebody gifted me a blow dryer because I guess my hair was like so notoriously wet.

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That's an interesting gift. That feels a little passive aggressive at the time.

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It, it, it. I think it is, but at the time, oh, maybe this is the solution.

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And you never used it.

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I think I did. I. I'm trying to think of what my issue with the blow dryer is. I don't know if our producers know anything more about hair than I do or they do, but I feel like it wasn't great for my curls. Does that make sense?

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Yes. Well, that's what I mentioned that I was like, I don't know what it does to your curls, but it probably doesn't make them as tight. It probably, you know, loosens them up a little bit. I'm guessing. I don't know. Do you guys know more about blow dryers and curls?

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I think a regular blow dryer will make a curly hair person's hair frizzy.

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Yes.

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You need like a diffuser. You need a diffuser. That's what I was going to say. You need a Diffuser. Jesse's got a diffuser.

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I am the diffuser.

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Yeah. So maybe I'll get you a diffuser for your blow dryer for your. For your birthday or for Christmas.

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Well, I don't still have that same. Oh, you don't have the blow dryer. I know. That was. That was a long time ago.

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Got to get a Dyson.

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Okay.

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Blow your hair dry with the Dyson.

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Okay.

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And that's. That's what we're here for. The podcast, you guys. That's the intro. That's the Beck and Kyle.

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You really want to stop now is our. Is our guest.

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We can. We could say a little. One more little thing I want to say.

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I want to get something really good out.

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This year is going to be a good one.

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Anything we can do to plan for, like at midnight this happens?

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I don't know. I like, like, I'm like. I don't know what that means. Like, is there anything we can do to plan for at midnight this happens?

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Like if, like, it's like, okay, you start. If you start pressing. If you start. If you play. If you start playing the podcast at 11:19pm at midnight, our guest enters or like the podcast within a podcast starts or something like that. Do you understand that?

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I'm lost. Okay. Yeah.

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So it's like, oh, if you play this right here, then at midnight something really cool happens.

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Yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree. Oh, no, I am lost. You're saying that, like, you think that you want to give them instructions, you want to give them a time to start playing the podcast so that it lines up with something that happens at midnight.

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It'll be 2026. Is that right? And I'm saying, like, we could like,

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really, like, get our audience into, like, something.

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We can have something really cool for their New Year's so that like at midnight, when it turns 2026, something spectacular happens on what's our podcast with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney. But it's. We gotta figure out some time stuff.

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I feel like we. That would have to be afterwards. Cause we don't.

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That might be right.

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We don't know when our guest is gonna come in. We don't know when the podcast within the podcast is coming.

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It might be a voice memo we do after the fact act.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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So forgive me if there's too much instructions.

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That's okay.

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But now you understand what I was. Happy New Year.

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Yes. Happy New Year.

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Let's talk about whatever everybody's mind, all your resolutions. Okay. I haven't thought too much about it, but I'll talk about it.

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Yeah, I. I don't have any.

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You know, I know one. I'll go for it. Sorry.

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No, I didn't have one. I really.

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I mean, this. Everybody must be dealing with this. I gotta spend less time on my phone.

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Me too. That's not. That's gotta be resolution number one. Pick up a book, you know, Pick up a book, Pick up a novel, pick up a memoir, Pick up a textbook, Put down the phone, connect, you know?

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Yeah, I like that.

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Yeah.

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What else?

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What else? Maybe roll around on the ground. Start rolling around, you know, get into your body, stretch and, you know, find a nice hill. Roll down it sideways. See what that does to your worldview. You know?

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I. I shall not judge back. I shall not judge back. I shall not judge back. If he wants to roll, he can roll. Do not ask the question you're thinking in your head, Kyle. Do not ask that question.

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Rolling with the homies.

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What the heck are you talking about?

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Sorry, dude. I'm a certified lunatic.

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Does your son like to roll?

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Not really. Not much. Does your daughter like to roll?

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I don't think maybe one time. We've been in like a little Grassley grass. Grassy knoll.

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Grassley Knoll.

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Funny, funny.

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You said Grassley.

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Funny, funny, Funny, Funny.

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Oh, yeah, funny. Ruby was. Was spinning around in circles the other day.

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Yeah, I love getting dizzy. Yeah, she likes to spin.

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Yeah, you like to get dizzy, brother?

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I do, I do, yeah.

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Yeah, you like to get dizzy.

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You know what else I like to do? And I feel like I've done this with you. I don't know why. Like, I love those sort of things where, like, you have some sort of physical reaction that is like, kind of trippy, you know what I mean? But it doesn't. You don't any sort of drugs or control. You know what else I like to do? Have you ever done this? I feel like I've done it with before. If you. If you go into a door. Doorway. Yeah, yeah. And you. You push your arms out against the side of the door and you hold it there for like 30 seconds to a minute, and then you walk forward and then your arms automatically raise up and you try. You try to bring them down and they just raise back up.

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It's so dope. It's next level stuff.

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That is the type of that. Like, that is my new year's resolution. I would do more stuff like that. I want to go walk into doorways. I want to mess with my arms.

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Do you remember this one from elementary school?

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Let me see.

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Clench your hand real quick. And then somebody go. A ghost is gonna now let go. And they put their hand over your hand like that. And they'd be like, did you feel the ghost?

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No. How do I do it?

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Okay, real tight. Cut your fist real tight.

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Okay, real tight.

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Real tight. Okay, real tight.

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Okay, real tight. Okay, okay.

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You doing it tight?

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I'm doing it pretty tight.

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Yeah.

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Now put your hand up front. Feel the ghost. No, I might not be remembering.

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Wait, let me try. Do you guys know this one?

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I don't know if I'm doing it now.

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Maybe I didn't do it tight enough. Help me do it tight.

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We don't have time on the pod right now.

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No, I want to do it.

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But if anybody else remembers how to do the ghost stuff with a hand, put it in the comments and we'll try to do it next in the next episode.

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Okay, I'm running my hands really tight right now. Really tight, really tight. Ghost. I'm not ready. I want to go tighter. I want to feel this ghost.

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You guys don't want to listen to this crap.

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Squeezing your hands. Okay, he's squeezing so hard. I'm squeezing it out. You ready? Flatten it out.

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Here comes the ghost.

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Yeah, no, it's good. I love it.

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And he felt it. There's all sorts of fun things you can do with your friends this New Year's. Ev, get in the doorway, do the ghost thing. You can hyperventilate and kind of strangle each other and pass out all sorts of fun stuff to do with your friends.

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The strangle stuff?

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Yeah, strangled stuff. I was messing around about the strangle stuff. I don't want to be into any trouble for strangle stuff.

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And hey, guys, for all of our listeners, please get back in trouble, I think.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, right. Don't try to get me in trouble.

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Do you ever have a New Year's kiss?

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Oh, I don't even know.

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Okay, well, we'll find out when we're coming back with our guest.

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Our guest today very. I'm very excited to have her on. I'm intimidated.

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She's integrated.

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I'm intimidated. Take Notaro. She is an incredible stand up writer, director, producer.

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I'm so excited. I've spent a little bit of time, time with Tig. But like, I think this will be a good opportunity. One of our classic opportunities to get to know somebody a lot better and to learn where they're coming from and, and what they're into.

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Yeah. What makes her Tig?

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Yeah. And.

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And I Meant that was like a pun.

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No, no. I know, I know, I know, I know. I liked it.

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This is also what makes her tig.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. What makes her tick.

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Yeah. Hopefully we'll take off some boxes and.

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Yeah.

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And it'll be inner. Entertain.

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It'll. Yeah. And it's. We're not having her on tomorrow. We're not.

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It's gonna be ticker and better than not tomorrow.

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Today.

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Tignitar is here.

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I'm. I'm honored that you're here. I. When I found out you were coming, I was like, wow, she's coming to talk to us late. Yeah, she's coming late.

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Is she gonna be in her bubble bath for a while? Just.

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That's what you were doing?

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Oh, absolutely.

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Bubble bath in the middle of the day.

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Oh, well, I had a very busy day.

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Okay.

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Yeah. Is it. Or is this on the.

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Yeah, yeah, we're going.

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Unless you want it. Unless you want to wait.

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We could do. We could do a full refresh if you want to.

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No, no, no.

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Okay, well, then let's talk about the boba bath.

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All right. Well, I was. I had a very busy day. Stephanie, my wife, is not feeling well, and so, you know, I'm already just busy without her being sick.

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Sure.

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So, yeah, I'm running up and down the stairs, bringing her things, taking things, dropping off more things.

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Yeah. And solo parenting.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Do you have. Do you have any secrets for. For those people who are sick? You know, Are you like, oh, this is like, I do a chicken noodle, or we get this some sort of

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juice, ginger, turmeric, sort of shot thing.

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I do that before I'm sick.

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Yeah.

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I'm also a vegan person.

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Okay. Oh, yeah. So you wouldn't do the chicken soup?

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I would not do the chicken soup.

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Yes, of course.

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Yeah. I don't know. I think it's just really good, too. If you're sick, drink a lot of water.

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Rest, rest. Rest in water is like. It took. It actually took me a while to figure that out.

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Yeah. It's true. It's Some. It's one of those things where people tell you you have to do it and you do.

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Yeah. For so long, people thought it was like, orange juice was a good idea.

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It's just a glass of sugar.

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It's just sugar.

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Yeah.

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People just like, drink a whole carton of orange juice.

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That's right.

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When did that go away?

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It's still there.

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People still do it. They're like, drink orange juice.

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Or they were like, oh, you have to get it with pulp in it. Right then that.

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But it's.

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That'll really.

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The argument. It's vitamin C that people are.

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Yeah, but there's a different way to get vitamin C without pouring a whole glass of sugar down your throat.

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In our intro, Kyle was doing a bit where he was Super Kyle.

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What does Super Kyle do?

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Well, what we know so far is that whenever Becca's in trouble, like if he's trapped underneath a building.

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I was trapped under a building.

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Kyle will come through, lift the building.

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That's it.

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That's pretty much it.

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Well, he sort of has, like, you know, just a sort of loud. You know. It's just like. It's Super Kyle and Beck.

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Yeah, that was the bet. Pretty cool, right?

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And if Beck's underneath the building, Super Kyle just gets in there and lifts

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it up and then he helps me feel so good.

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Is he being crushed by the building or he's just in the crawl space where everyone's safe, but there's just some cobwebs.

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I was being crushed by the building. Like, there was a whole building on top of me, and Kyle pulled me out of it. And then I felt so good.

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It was interesting because, like, when we were talking about it, I kind of assumed Beck was Super Kyle's sidekick.

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Sure.

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But I didn't go along with it.

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It's more like you're just a. More that I'm the person that I'm constantly saving.

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Yeah, yeah.

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There are some people that would want to be saved if they were in the crawl space with spider webs and stuff.

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Oh, that sounds awful.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. So.

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But it's all fake, to be honest. I made up the super cow thing only moments ago.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really.

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Have you ever, like, kind of used your imagination? Come up with.

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I did as a kid a couple of times.

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A couple of times? Yeah.

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Yeah. Which I find fascinating now that I have children. Our kids are nine. And not that they're big fat liars or anything, but when there is a bit of stretching the truth, I always think about how fascinating it is that you tell. You encourage kids to use their imagination.

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Yeah.

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And then when they lie.

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I know, like, you know, you're like, don't do that. Yeah, that's already started because we, we started. Like, I feel like the easiest jokes are like, you know, like calling saying something isn't what it is. So like, oh, yeah, I'll go get your backpack. And then picking up the dog and being like, is this what you want to take to school? No, that's not the backpack. Is this the backpack? No, that's not the backpack.

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It's working on me right now. The dog is not the backpack.

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Silly. That's so silly. Yeah, but then they start doing it and then you're like, oh, you. Okay. It's like I was teasing you and it's like, it's like a lie. You're like teaching them to, like, to joke.

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Right. It's a weird gray area between using your imagination. Am.

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I have a two and a half year old. Beck has an almost four year old.

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That's great.

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And I think, is Santa falling out of favor? Like, are people like. It's like, is it like now that, like, oh, this feels like you're lying to your child in any way or anything like that? I feel like I caught enough of that.

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I don't love it. I don't. I don't like to be like, pushing the whole Santa thing, but he's just at the age, I think, where it can really be be happening this year. But, you know, we haven't gotten there yet.

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What can be happening?

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Like, the whole, like, well, if you're good, Santa will come and he'll come with his reindee and he'll land on the roof and he'll come down the chimney. Yeah, like, he, like last year he started to get it, like, oh, we leave the carrots out and the cookies, and he didn't eat those and so now we get to eat them. And he brought all these. I feel weird.

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You don't take little bites of the cookies and carrots.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, a little bit. But there's some leftover.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, yeah. Like in the morning, like, there was a cara left over and a couple cookies. Like, oh, Santa ate some of the cookies.

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Here's my issue, though.

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Yeah.

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Aside from lying, the carrot is for the carrots. That's for the reindeer.

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That's for the reindeer.

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So what, Santa brings carrots out, gives them a nibble, and then brings what's left back into the house to put on the plate?

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You're right.

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Yeah, I know I'm right. That's a very, very bizarre thing that Santa's doing at every house. It's like he's trying to prove that there was a.

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It's almost like you want to. Now, could you leave the carrots outside and then make if. Then like, oh, look, the carrots got chewed. But how do you. Where do you. Do you mind me asking the whole thing.

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Have you. Have you pushed the. The Santa myth with your kids deeply

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and felt horrible the whole time?

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Really?

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Yeah, because it's a lie. It's a lie.

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I could see you being, like, sitting them down right away and being like, this isn't real. We do this as an idea. It's fun, but we give you the

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gifts and, no, I want throttle. Plus, when they're a little older, there's so much where you can just use and abuse the. You know, guys, I told them I was texting with Santa and so that. It's terrible. It's so terrible. But it's like that really easy thing where if they weren't behaving, I'd be like, okay, well, I didn't want to have to do this, but I'll definitely text Santa. And they'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, please, no, no. I'm like, no, I have. And they, please, we want. And I'd be like, okay, all right, well, then I'll put that away. And then, you know, but he's.

[C]

Oh, gosh.

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But it's so stressful. And then, like, my stepfather used to do the naughty and nice list, and so my brother and I, we would get check marks when we were naughty or nice. And my naughty is piled up a bit.

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Oh, wow. So it's not like one person was on the naughty or nice list. It's like, you got check marks on the action and the nice, and if the nice outweighed, no difference.

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It didn't make a difference in terms of gifts you receive.

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No, it was just terror, like, leading up to Christmas, and then we still just got whatever.

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You know, there's the whole thing with parenting where it's like, well, you want them to be good for their own, you know, innate. Because they want to be good because they. They want to do the right thing, not because they're being pressured or they get prizes or whatever. But that's. That's. That's insane.

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Yeah.

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That's crazy. I think if we went that route, they would just be maniacs. I don't really know how to enforce that.

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I don't either. But I love the idea of the three of us parenting together.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Sitting down and really talking through our different issues with our kids and how to best. Wouldn't that be an interesting thing if we. The three of us, had a parenting podcast? I think people wouldn't be expecting that.

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Well, I mean, like, do you know this is, you know the premise of this podcast, Right? No, it is that we don't know what our podcast should be about.

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Right, Right.

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And at some point, you tell us,

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our guest, to come up with an idea for what our podcast should be about. Not saying we need to go there, but our podcast could be. Unless you might have another idea. But it could be about exactly what you're referring to.

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And once you figure out what it is, are you gonna. Or is this. Your thing with your podcast is you're always gonna be looking for what it is.

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Hasn't been fully determined so far. We're just looking. But we're definitely open to the idea that, like. Okay. If we really struck something that felt right, we could maybe pursue it.

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Well, I submitted.

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Don't say it yet.

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Don't say it. They know you submitted. Yeah, we didn't see it, though.

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We don't know what it is yet. Did I scare you?

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A little bit.

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And I want to apologize.

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That's okay.

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I'm sorry. I got a little nervous.

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I didn't know that was just like, kind of. We were having a nice time.

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I know. And I feel bad. I just didn't. I didn't want. I. I didn't know if we were there yet.

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Is that my contract for this episode?

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Is what this.

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Is that my contract?

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Yeah. You're gonna need to sign that.

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Okay.

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We like to leave a little. Little fact sheet about our guest house so the guests can see some. Some of the stuff.

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I have terrible eyesight. I just assumed I had to. That was a lot of paperwork I had to sign.

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You could definitely sign that.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I mean, we could go to commercial. What's happening?

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We're trying to figure it out.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah. So. So, yeah, that's what our podcast.

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We can have the conversation about. We can skip right to the submission.

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Yeah, I don't think we. I really don't think we should. I just about. Since we are trying to figure out what our podcast is about. You've had a lot of podcasts, right? Quite a few.

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I'm on my fourth.

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You're on your fourth?

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Yeah.

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Handsome is your fourth?

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Yes.

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Great. Now.

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But I'm looking for other Ones.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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Okay. So, like, for me, this is my first. It's a wild experience. I feel like I've got.

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Wild how?

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It's just kind of like.

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Doesn't feel wild. I'll be honest.

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Yeah. This is the least wild episode.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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It's very chilly because my.

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It's very cool. This is almost like asmr. Like calm.

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I can take it up a notch.

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No, no, I like this. I want you to be Tig, but to me, it's like a lot of watch. Like, we have to watch ourselves. We have to watch each episode. It's more work than I thought it would be.

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Why do you have to watch it?

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I don't know. Just to be like, do we want to cut anything? Or what do we want to keep? Or what do we want to use for a clip for. For social media? But I feel like the advice that I've gotten from people is, like, make it as little of a lift as possible. And I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on that for as far as podcasting.

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Well, I don't listen to or watch my podcast.

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I think that's what I have to do.

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Yeah.

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From moment one, when you first started

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the first podcast, you did.

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No, the first podcast. At first. At the very beginning of that. I think at the very beginning of all four of my podcasts, I would listen to make sure it was all

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generally going how you imagined it.

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Yeah. This is smooth. This is smooth. Okay. And then, you know, you have trust in your editors, and then.

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And then you let it go.

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Then you move on.

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I think that's where I'm at when I'm recording.

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If there is something, I'll be like,

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yeah, look out for that.

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Yeah.

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Because I say. I say quite a few things where later I'm like, oh, my God. No, cut that. Why. Why did I say that? Why did I think that that would be okay?

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See, I have things that I say that I think is a good idea, and then I find out later that Stephanie thought it wasn't a great idea. Why did I share that? And then I have to.

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But that. But then it's too late. It's already out there.

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Yeah, it's too late.

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So Stephanie regularly listens no.

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To this podcast.

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No, No. I wouldn't dare Stephanie to know that you're saying something.

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No, no, no, no. Clips pop up on social media or somebody will text her and ask her something. She's like, oh, my God, would you shut your truck?

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Yeah, yeah. But as far as, like, the low lift Nature of it. Like with handsome. You guys. Do you guys have guests? You guys have somebody ask a question?

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We get questions.

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You get questions, which I think is brilliant.

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We just have people submit video questions, and then we chat about the question. And then after we've chatted, then we play the video answer of our guest who answers their own question, and then we chat briefly about their answer, and then we are out.

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See, that's very smart. You don't have to prep a guest. You don't have to figure stuff out. You can just hang out, answer questions. They come on and ask you a question.

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Your guest, basically, the prep is our producer's problem because he has to explain. You don't have to come. You just make a video. You know, he just sends videos of people that have asked questions, and then we send a list of previously asked questions. So there's no overlap.

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And what was the process of developing that? Who had the idea? Was there a conversation? Because that is a pretty specific premise.

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Yeah, I had my third podcast, which was when I say it was about documentaries, it wasn't really. It was me and Cheryl Hines, who is married to Bobby Kennedy Jr. And so when she told me he was running for president, I. I popped out.

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That was an immediate pop out.

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It was an immediate pop out. And so. But I had, you know, I was so happy. It was like we'd watch documentaries and we would only talk about who we were attracted to in the documentary. And people from like, that are, like, public radio listeners would, oh, a documentary podcast. And then we'd get reviews like, this is garbage. They never got to end. And so that was my favorite. But when the podcast ended, I was like, I need to get back to the nonsense that I had with Cheryl, which it was like taking shots, slapping each other in the face, like real silly stuff. And so I was like, who have I run into that maybe I don't know as well, but I enjoy talking to them. And I reached out to I knew Fortune and May just a little bit. Fortune Feimster and May Martin, just like, casually probably. How much I know you.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I know you a little more than I know you.

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Oh, yes. We had fun at a holiday party.

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Which one?

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It was Odenkirk. Yeah.

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Yes, we did.

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Yeah, we did.

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And so anyway, so I was trying to chase that joy and nonsense that I had with Cheryl, and then I had no idea what was gonna happen, but they were both game to just be silly. And I was. That's all I want. I don't want politics or anything. Serious.

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Anything too insightful?

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Crying or crime?

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Crime. I guess both. Well, crime actually could be kind of fun. Like, petty crime could be fun.

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We have cried on the podcast because we've had some personal things that have come up that we shared and, and we were like, oops, this made me really sad to talk about. But we, you know, that only happened maybe two or three times and we got back to.

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Do you engage? Like, do you have any idea of audience reception? Do you engage with comments at all or are you aware of how it's being received?

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I have, I'm on Instagram and my Instagram is connected to my Facebook, but I don't ever go on Facebook. I know people look at Reddit and all of that kind of stuff. Like there's fan groups and I don't, I don't go into that.

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Yes, that's a good idea.

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Yeah, I, I just assume.

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Do you think your co hosts do or do not.

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They've told me they do.

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Yeah.

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They've told me about the, the group hats and stuff. But you can pretty much always get that people love you and hate you.

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Right.

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And so it, like, I, I read some of the comments on Instagram, but I just get, I don't know.

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Yeah, yeah. Now, do you, you don't, you don't watch the podcast? Do you watch your, do you watch your stand up? Do you watch your specials and watch what you do and like, critique it religiously? You do.

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Big fan.

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Big fan of yours.

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Big fan.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean, mainly in the edit.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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I mean, that's where I'll watch it. And that is terribly painful.

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It's terribly painful.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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How dare you. I'm taking one more question, by the way.

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That's fair. That is incredibly fair.

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I'm a fair person.

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Am I? Does it feel like I'm inundating you with questions?

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No, I just thought it'd be fun

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to say that it's only taken and then we can talk without questions.

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Great. Oh, that feels, like, sort of scary. A little intimidating, actually.

[B]

What is talking without questions?

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Yeah, yeah, just no question conversation.

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We can just do questions for the rest of this time. I truly just thought it would be funny to.

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No, but I think that's a good idea.

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Please don't yell at me.

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Okay. He's just, he gets a little, you know. I know you know where you.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I feel like I need to apologize again. No, it's okay.

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No, I think you should. That's okay.

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry.

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I, I, I didn't Mean to raise my voice like that.

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That's okay.

[B]

Look at that. Apologies are amazing. They're like magic. See, you just say sorry.

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There was no. There were no egos involved in that disagreement, you know?

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Yeah. I mean, yeah,

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not nothing.

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I feel bad. I do feel. And I'm. And not that I need. Not that, like, anyone else needs to carry that. Yeah. It's okay to feel bad molding onto

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it, but I think we're willing to carry the pain you're feeling.

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Well, thank you.

[B]

Yeah, I'll carry your pain.

[C]

All right, well, are you ready for the question? Yeah.

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This is probably the most connected podcast we've ever had.

[C]

So you came up doing music.

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Did I?

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That's what I understand.

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Oh, music business.

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Music business.

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Though I also know you maybe play guitar and drums.

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Mm.

[C]

But yeah. So you were you. Was it like music management, production?

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Well, I wanted to be a rock star.

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Yeah.

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Or a lesbian folk rock star.

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Oh, wait, wait. You said a rock star rock star or a lesbian rock star.

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Or a lesbian folk rock star.

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Okay.

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You know, I would have happily been the third Indigo Girl, but.

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Yeah, you can't. Can all be camp.

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But, yes, I played very average.

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Right.

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Very average. Drums, guitar. That's. That's what I do.

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Okay.

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And I tried to do it on stage, and I had a lot of stage fright, and so I thought, well, I love music, so I'll just work in that business. And my girlfriend at the time had a band, and so I worked with her band, and then other bands sort of asked me to work with them, so I did that. And then that was that. And then I got into comedy.

[C]

Oh, were you about to ask a question?

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Yeah, I was.

[C]

Are we doing questions?

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I think music is cool.

[A]

Yeah.

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Pivoted.

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I think music's cool.

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I wonder what.

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Yeah.

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I wonder what it would be like to do that.

[C]

I always wondered what it would be like to do. And forgive me for interrupting, but like, I wonder. I wonder what it would be like for someone like you in that situation where you're in the music world and then maybe you transition to stand up comedy. I wonder what that. I always wonder about that.

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Yeah. I wonder.

[C]

Just something I was wondering about.

[B]

Yeah. Have you ever wondered about that kind of thing? We can't. We gotta be able to ask cues. I don't know.

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We don't. There's something here.

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Well, I'm happy to answer this question because I've wondered about it.

[C]

Okay.

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And then I went through it.

[C]

Oh, great. So you're probably the best to speak to.

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It I'm the number one person to talk to about going from lesbian folk rock dreams to lesbian comedian reality. I had no idea that I was going to be making that shift. But I went through a breakup when I lived in Colorado and my two closest friends, we're leaving to go to LA to work in TV and film. And I was like, guess I'll throw my ratty couch in the back of the truck too, and go with you.

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Absolutely.

[A]

And then I saw all the opportunities to do stand up in la and I was like, wow, that was my secret dream. So really. So more secretive than music, which, like,

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talk about stage fright. I feel like with music, especially guitar and drums, I mean, drums, you're in the back. Guitar, you're not even speaking necessarily.

[A]

Yeah. But if your hands are shaking, it gets hard to play instruments.

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Oof.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The holding on to the guitar.

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Pick anything like. Oh, gosh. I just wanted to get off stage.

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Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I saw my music dream shattering, and I was nervous doing stand up, but I could kind of disguise it a little bit, even though my knees were shaking and my breathing was a little off.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

[B]

And. And when you started, when you first.

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Watch out how you're framing that.

[B]

When you.

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Maybe I'm wrong.

[B]

When you started,

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I just got. I got nervous that it would be when you started, but.

[B]

Well, you. I don't know what you're talking about.

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I know what he's talking about, but you should be careful.

[B]

Wait, I'm so in the dark on when you started. Wait, why is that?

[C]

It feels like you're setting up a question.

[B]

Yeah, but I thought we said we were okay with questions.

[C]

Well, it seemed like Tig was saying,

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should we go to a commercial?

[B]

No, we don't.

[C]

I don't know that we do commercial.

[A]

Oh, you don't?

[B]

Oh, we do. No, we do do commercials.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I don't know. Where do the commercials come in?

[A]

When I say, should we go to commercial?

[B]

That's when we put a Miller commercial. Then.

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Okay, here comes one of my favorite products.

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Let's check it out.

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And we're back.

[C]

Yeah. I'm a curious person. I'm curious about if a person like you, Tig, would remember your very first joke or the realm of jokes you were telling when you first started and when you made that transition from the music world to. To the comedy universe.

[A]

I know my first joke. Is that what you're trying to get at?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

It's not even a joke. I mean, it's. I guess I wrote a little bit of A joke at the end, but it was an awkward situation that happened to me. My friend, who was in a band, was coming into Colorado, where I was living at the time, and he had given me the number of his tour manager. And he said, call my tour manager to get tickets to the show. So I did. This is not part of the joke. I'm just letting you know it was making me laugh. Oh, okay.

[C]

So I don't know if you're gonna go back to that.

[A]

It gets better. I call him and I said, hey, my name is Tig. I'm a friend of Johnny's. He told me to reach out to you.

[B]

Classic Rob.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Johnny, Johnny, don't forget, call my manager. He's gonna hook you up with the tickets.

[B]

Okay, thanks, John.

[A]

And his tour manager said, all right. He said, well, I don't feel comfortable calling you this, but I guess I'll see you tonight, Pig. And I said, oh, well, I don't feel comfortable with you calling me that either. I said, my name is actually Tig. And he said, that's what I said, Pig. And I said. I said, no, it's Tig with a T. And he said, title. And I said. And then the. The joke at the end, which. All of that is true. And then at the end, I said, yeah, that's right. It's Pig Tit. So anyway, that was my first.

[C]

Still playing. And then. Did you ever. And then I can't help but imagine a conversation with Johnny after the fact

[A]

about the whole ordeal that I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember, but they just remember.

[B]

Pigt. It.

[A]

I do. And all of my comedy friends called me Pig Tit for years because of that.

[C]

They like the bit. They. They like the story. It resonated with them.

[B]

Yeah, it's kind of. It kind of fits.

[A]

Pig Tit.

[B]

Yeah, the personality.

[C]

And there are pigs. There are pigs with tits.

[A]

Yeah, I don't have tits. Mine are in a dumpster in Hollywood.

[C]

You think there's. They're still in the dumpster.

[A]

I don't know. I imagine rodents have been fighting over them, like, in an alleyway.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's gotta feel good, though, that there's, like, some sort of fight happening.

[B]

Of course. Yeah. People. The rats are gonna. They're competing for those tasks.

[A]

Yeah. And I. And I like that you said, it's gotta feel good. Cause I immediately thought, like, physically.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

That.

[A]

Like, I can feel the fight over my dumpster tits in the alley.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Which I can't, by the way. Oh, thank you.

[B]

Can you imagine?

[C]

You said you did have you submit. You did have some sort of idea for what you think our podcast should be about at this moment.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I'm comfortable to hear the idea.

[A]

You guys have not heard the idea?

[C]

No.

[A]

Be honest with me.

[B]

I have not heard the idea.

[A]

I feel like you're.

[C]

I will do anything. I.

[A]

What?

[C]

To promise that it's true.

[B]

It will do anything. Whatever.

[A]

Anything.

[C]

I will do anything.

[B]

You just ask him to do something, he'll do it, and then that will

[A]

prove to you that I can't move on from this. You'll do anything?

[B]

Yeah. Have him do something.

[C]

It's like I'm, like, I'm nervous to, like, swear to God or something like that.

[A]

Are you a religious man?

[C]

Parts of me are spiritual, I would say.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I don't know that. Like, I don't go to church, so

[A]

I can't say that regularly or just sometimes. You do.

[B]

Never.

[C]

I don't. Well, I think I. Yeah, I probably went in the mid aughts, maybe for, like, a Christmas service with my family.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

But I, I. All I'm trying to get at ultimately is that I. We don't know what your idea was or is.

[B]

Not a clue.

[C]

But if there's something you want me to do to prove that, I'm happy to try.

[B]

For the listeners. Tiggy's looking around the room.

[A]

Would you do a handstand?

[C]

I would attempt. Well, I would attempt one.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yep. All right, let's move this out of the way.

[A]

No, no, no, let's not.

[B]

Okay. Let's not. Never mind. You got this, Kyle. Come on, man. Tig, it's been great having you on the pod.

[A]

Thank you. It's so good to be here.

[C]

Just to say out loud. Yeah, I, I, I can't claim that I do handstands well, but I will attempt to do handstand.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

And we. And I can't move the table.

[B]

No, that's that. Now that.

[A]

Okay, you can move it. You can move it.

[C]

Maybe.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And you think you could hold handstand?

[B]

Oh, like, probably three seconds

[A]

even. Whatever happens, it just means you. You try. Yeah.

[B]

You have a family moving the table.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. Kyle's taking a deep breath, and he's approaching the floor.

[C]

I'm really gonna do my best here. You're gonna have to. I don't know that the mic is catching me. Okay, ready?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're gonna need more.

[A]

Oh, that was good.

[B]

That was really good.

[C]

Let me try one more time.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I don't know how you should.

[B]

I think you need to. I think you need to kind of. Yep. Yeah. That was really cool, man. Kyle. Kyle's legs are going up in the air for Tig.

[C]

One more time. One more time.

[A]

Do. Maybe try it slow? Because you tried fast. Maybe try slow this time.

[C]

Same thing. You think?

[B]

I think you gotta kind of almost, like, cartwheel into it. Almost. Yeah.

[A]

I thought it'd be interesting if you have no. No momentum.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

No momentum.

[A]

Let's just see how that looks. Same.

[B]

Yeah, same. Get it up. Oh, that was good. That was really good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I. I believe you now. I believe you. Yeah. Do you mind moving the table back?

[B]

The glasses?

[A]

Oh, well, let's see. That.

[C]

That doesn't.

[A]

Does this make good for podcasting?

[B]

It's got to.

[A]

Uhhuh. Okay. I think you put your knees on your elbows, right?

[B]

Yep. Oh, he's.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Oh, Kyle is crushing it. He's so vertical, dude. Yes.

[A]

Oh, my.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Cool.

[C]

It's not even that big of a deal.

[A]

Okay. Can you move the table back, please?

[B]

Yeah, move the table back. I'm not lifting a finger over here.

[A]

Okay, There we go. There.

[B]

Do you do stuff like that ever?

[A]

No.

[B]

No, you don't. You do physical stuff? Sports, climbing around.

[A]

I. You know, I. Whoops.

[B]

Oops.

[A]

I take walks. I weightlift a couple of days a week. I swim when I can.

[B]

That's good. I just did that for the first time.

[A]

First time swimming?

[B]

Well, no, first time swimming for exercise in my adult life. I was on swim teams and stuff growing up.

[A]

Oh, good for you teams. Several.

[B]

Yeah. But, like, it was, like, kids teams, like, you know, did, like, some swim meets on the weekends, and it was, like, the worst thing ever because you were inside all day. And I hated wearing a Speedo. I always had very big thighs, so I would always. I would wear my shorts right up on the starting block and then take them off right away right before they cold storm.

[A]

Just to not draw attention to yourself.

[B]

Yeah, my big white thigh. Yeah. So then I'm just de Pantsing right before I go. Nobody sees that. Yeah.

[A]

I have a question for both of you that just came up.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

My heart is racing still.

[B]

Well, yeah, that was a lot of

[A]

work from my arrival.

[C]

Yeah. I can't believe you're here.

[A]

I have to know if you individually did this or if you've just kind of become so close that you wear the same shoes.

[B]

Oh, very interesting.

[C]

There was a conversation about this earlier today.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I. Kyle for the listeners, me and Kyle have our boat shoes.

[A]

Hello, Stephanie.

[C]

Stephanie's the only person.

[A]

Hello, listener.

[B]

Me and Kyle are wearing boat shoes. Kyle's been wearing boat shoes pretty much exclusively for the past couple years. I would almost say.

[C]

I would say. If I were to guess, probably like, 2018. Ish. Yeah, maybe I started. I transitioned from, like, I was wearing a lot of old school sneaker LA gear sneakers or something.

[B]

Yeah. And I've had these. I've had these since about 20, 21 or something. And I don't. I've been wanting to wear them more, but Kyle wears his boat shoes. But I figured, you know what? It's okay. We can both wear boat shoes. And so I brought them today, being like, here we go. I'm gonna wear the boat shoes. Let's see what happens. And you notice.

[A]

Everyone noticed.

[B]

Everyone noticed. I also used to wear boat shoes back in the day. Yeah, but Kyle didn't.

[A]

With your Speedo.

[B]

With my Speedo, Yeah.

[A]

You're a water guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's what we call it.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So I wouldn't slip on water guy fan. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Super Kyle and water guy.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, you don't need to be back anymore. You water?

[B]

Yeah, I'm totally soaked.

[C]

Totally soaked.

[B]

I'm soaked on that. Soaked. Dude.

[A]

Water guy. Totally soaked.

[B]

What do you do? I'm wet. That's it.

[C]

So what. What's your idea for our podcast and stands?

[A]

Mountain goats, obviously.

[C]

Great.

[B]

Mountain goats. So podcast about mountain goats.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

All right, well, we're gonna go try our podcast about mountain goats.

[A]

Without me?

[B]

No, with you.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

We're gonna go do another guitar and again and every. Get ready, get ready.

[B]

Get your mountain goats ready. Here we go. Head out to the mountain.

[C]

What's up, everybody? I'm Kyle Moody.

[B]

And I'm Beck Bennett. Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

The man.

[A]

The myth.

[C]

B. The.

[B]

Yeah. What's up, man? Oh, I see you looking at my boat shoes.

[C]

Oh, that's right. Yeah. I know there's been a lot I gotta say.

[B]

Yeah, I am just. Just spit it out.

[C]

Give me one moment.

[B]

I'm trying to. I'm trying to give you the space.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[C]

But if you interrupt me, I can't really.

[B]

I just don't want there to be too much silence.

[C]

So I don't think it's been that. It's not been a long amount of silence. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. No, no. Teach their own.

[A]

Hey, guys, when do I come in?

[C]

There she is. Well, you know who's coming? We got a very special guest. Not quite yet.

[A]

All right,

[B]

all right.

[C]

If you're. If you're. If you're coming back. If you're. If you're one of our regular listeners, you already know where you're at, but we always got it. We always got to do that thing. Theme song thing. Because you're listening to Mountain Goats.

[B]

Mountain Goat. That's what it's all about. You told us. Mountain Goat is our podcast. That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle. Nailed it.

[C]

We got a very special guest today. Comedian, writer, producer, actor, podcaster, lesbian.

[B]

Lesbian. Don't forget Kyle. Lesbian.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[B]

One of my favorite things about you that you do. I think it's so awesome.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You know, thanks, guys.

[C]

Please give it up for Tigna Taro.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Thank you so much for coming on Mountain Goats. Yeah. You know. You know that you love mountain goats.

[A]

I do, yeah.

[B]

And we know that you love mountains.

[C]

I. I gotta ask you this question, and I asked this to a lot of. A lot of folks that come in here, but you, I feel like. Feel like you have a very, you know, you've got this whole vibe, you know, it's tig. I gotta know. I have to.

[A]

You just did the tig jig.

[C]

Did I?

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I guess it's all seeping. It's all seeping in. It's all coming together.

[B]

Yeah, it's all seeping into it.

[C]

Have you ever. Have you ever been face to face with a mountain goat?

[A]

I get asked this a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, not once.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I would love to be face to face with a mountain goat.

[C]

Do you think. Do you think if you were face to face with what we refer to as a mountain goat and what we refer to as just a goat,

[B]

do

[C]

you think you'd be able to tell the difference? Is there a difference?

[A]

This is a good question. Yeah, I believe. And I could be wrong.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I believe mountain goats have more of a horn situation.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Obviously you have your rams, but that's not a mountain goat. It's a ram. But, yeah, I think they're a little bit more. Are they, like, kind of more curled or something like that, or may they kind of shooting straight up? Yeah, we'll never know.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

You know, we were going to.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Can we go ahead and bring up a picture of a mountain goat?

[B]

Looks like now, what.

[A]

Your show is about mountain goats.

[C]

You know what? It's never specifically, has never come up.

[A]

Mountain goats haven't.

[C]

No, no, no. Just sort of what they look like.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Have you ever Googled a mountain goat?

[C]

You know what? We were actually. I was just talking to my team about that.

[B]

We were about to, but we ran out of time, so.

[C]

So we're bringing up. We're bringing up a picture of a mountain goat. So we're saying. We're thinking horns, and there's a question of whether they're horns.

[B]

Horns. Wow.

[A]

Yeah. See how they kind of curl off into some directions, and then sometimes they're straight and. But here is what I love.

[C]

You got some big. Okay, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

[B]

Please keep going on these. Go ahead.

[A]

No, I know, dude.

[C]

I've seen. I'm seeing some with four horns. I'm seeing some with two horns.

[B]

Those are ears, brother.

[C]

Oh, you're right, brother.

[B]

Those are ears shooting off to the side.

[C]

Those are very triangular ears. Yeah, and then you got the big. Yeah, sorry, Tig, I interrupted you.

[A]

No, no, no, go ahead. Keep pointing.

[C]

Well, then you got. Then we got. We got these. I mean, go. Scroll down a bit. Go. Go to the. Move the cursor. Yeah. What's the. The brown right above there.

[A]

Yeah, it is. It's. And so having a mountain goat podcast, you've just. You've never.

[C]

Haven't seen the pictures.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. What do you know?

[C]

I. You.

[B]

You don't want to. You don't want to see one in the wild.

[C]

I knew.

[A]

Yeah, you do.

[C]

I know where.

[A]

Yeah, you want to see him in the wild. You don't want to see. See him on Hollywood Boulevard. That would be terrifying if there was a.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

Yeah, of course. We don't need to go in. That would be terrifying.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And to answer your question, what I. You know, what we tend to talk about on the show is where they live. For instance, do you often find them in mountains?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Sort of general texture of their. Of their. Of, like, what's on their body. Sort of like a furry hair type situation. They can't talk.

[A]

Won't talk.

[C]

Won't talk. Yeah, but they will kind of be like. I believe that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe they enjoy eating. I would imagine them, like, sort of getting some water at a pond to hydrate themselves.

[A]

And so do you guys. Is this a weekly show where you like.

[C]

It sort of depends.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just wondering, like.

[B]

Yeah, we just don't know how much stuff. How much mileage we can get out of it.

[A]

I'm wondering that, too, just as your guest.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

So, I mean, already, I got to say, this is one of our best episodes because I Feel like the amount we've learned at this point.

[B]

Yeah. Because our other mountain goat episodes have been really quiet, really long.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Not much going on. Kind of.

[C]

Yeah. I was like, those were kind of. I got hate. I. I hate to use this word, but they're kind of awkward.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What are the episodes?

[C]

The old episodes.

[B]

Yeah, we're kind of like.

[A]

It's like, wait, you know, is it an hour podcast?

[C]

It can. It ranges.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anywhere from a minute to, like, three minutes. Yeah.

[A]

So this will all be edited down.

[B]

This is gold. No, see, that's amazing. See, this is. We're gonna keep all this.

[C]

That was, like, cool. Did we. Did we get Tig on the ban Was on the. What we were recording.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, great.

[A]

Were you able to capture that? Yeah. Okay.

[B]

I really do want to know. So, like, what is it that you love about mountain.

[A]

Well, that's why I'm here. And it's been. It's such a pleasure and honor to be here on this show because.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I do so many podcasts because I have a podcast. Yeah.

[B]

You've had your fourth, and

[A]

it's just. I. Nobody can dig as deep as you both are able to.

[C]

I appreciate that, Tig.

[B]

Yes, Absolutely.

[A]

I appreciate it. I want to talk about mountain goats a lot. And. And this, I know, is a comedy podcast, but this is real. I love mountain goats. I love when you're in the mountains. Let's say Colorado. Yeah, I. Yeah, I used to live there.

[B]

My. My parents live there. My brother lives there. I've been going there my whole life.

[A]

Where in Colorado?

[B]

Snowmass. My younger brother lives in Denver, and my parents were in Snowmass.

[A]

Well, why didn't you tell me earlier?

[B]

I. We. There was. There was too much going on.

[A]

There was. Yeah, yeah. The boat shoes and the headstand.

[B]

Questions. The questions. Of course.

[A]

My favorite thing is to be driving down the road and see a mountain goat standing on the side of the mountain, but, sirs, I know you don't know much about mountain goats, even though you do host.

[B]

You're allowed to have a podcast about mountain goats and not know much about.

[A]

Yeah. Not be able to identify one. They stand on a ledge like an inch deep, they have cloven hooves, and they use those to balance. Do you have a question?

[B]

No, I have seen. I've seen that type of thing before.

[A]

What is it, Kyle? You seem like you have a question.

[C]

Oh, it was just. I love. First of all, this truly is incredible mountain goat conversation, and I'm already learning so much more, because when I asked you earlier, have you ever been face to face with a mountain goat? You just mean you actually haven't been

[A]

literally, like, we have not walked up to each other.

[C]

But you have.

[A]

Oh, I've seen many a mountain goat, yes.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Here is the other thing, my friends, that I love so much about mountain goats. And I mean, look, do you see that goat on the side of the mountain on the right?

[B]

Do you see that?

[A]

That's why that they hang out like that?

[B]

That is.

[A]

They're just like, do, do, do. Just spending the day.

[C]

So you're driving past, you're just seeing. It's like a. It's like they're lying down almost, but on a. Completely vertical.

[A]

Completely vertical. And. And Sirs, kind sirs, can you pull up videos as well?

[B]

Look at that. I see one jumping through the air.

[A]

Okay. But not just jumping through the air. They jump from a quarter of an inch ledge to another mountain that has a quarter of an inch ledge, and they just jump down the mountain, just bing, bong, bing.

[B]

Have you said they're. They're undulates?

[A]

I didn't say that.

[B]

Well, but they're hooved.

[A]

I've never said anything was an undulate,

[B]

but they are undulates.

[A]

Okay, well, I've never said that.

[B]

But. But. So why don't they slip? Is there something about their hooves?

[A]

They're cloven.

[B]

They're cloven.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can I.

[C]

Can I ask absolutely sort of evolutionary question here?

[A]

That's why I'm here.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, how.

[B]

How did you. How did you come to be me? Yeah.

[A]

Gosh, I. I don't. I mean, my parents met very young. They drank a lot, and. And my brother and I were brought into the world, and then we were without a father when I was six months. So that you can add up. He's. He was alive. He's no longer alive. Nobody, no parent of mine is alive.

[C]

Sorry.

[B]

Sorry about that.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

I was gonna ask a different evolutionary question.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

But I'm glad we got.

[B]

Yeah, I'm glad we got to. How. Yeah. How we got to Tig.

[C]

Now, the mountain goats, you said there's like an inch of mountain. I mean, sometimes, and they're jumping to another.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you think. Now look at this.

[A]

Look at this, look at this.

[C]

Do you think they're learning this from other mountain goats or.

[B]

It's all in slipping.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. This mountain goat is slipping down the mountain.

[A]

Oh, my God. Look at this. That's their everyday.

[B]

Take another route, brother.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

It's like, go around the mountain. Is that a dam?

[A]

Look at that. Do you see the cloven hooves?

[B]

I see the cloven.

[C]

Those look to be cloven.

[A]

Look at that little baby. Are you gonna put these videos up for anyone to see or are we just gonna sound insane?

[B]

Honestly, I knew about the balancing on a little spot.

[A]

Do you see it?

[B]

People need to know about this. This is insane.

[C]

I see it. And it's hard for me. And I think you already said a version of this, Beck, but it's like, it does feel like. Why are you making it this difficult for yourselves?

[A]

There's.

[B]

And look at. They're eating. They're eating some vegetables there on the.

[A]

Those aren't vegetables. Those are rocks. I know.

[B]

They're just licking those rocks.

[A]

They just can't.

[B]

They're just.

[A]

They have terrible information. They are climbing up mountains with nowhere, like, nothing to nature. Producers just mortified.

[B]

They're loving it. They're loving this. Do you see why so many of them. Do you think it's.

[A]

Do you see why I got in my car and drove over here to talk about this?

[B]

Yes, yes. Thank you so much.

[C]

Informing, like, and we do have the

[B]

podcast, but we didn't know. We didn't know anything about these.

[C]

These.

[A]

And look, he's running on nothing. Do you understand? See the cloven hoof?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

That's a nice close up of the cloth.

[B]

Cloven hoof.

[A]

Look at that. He's just running, sprinting, like, how. Okay, this is my question, man.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Once you see this, how do you ever go back to life? How do you ever.

[B]

I'm not going to.

[A]

No, we're gonna sit here, we're gonna watch mountain goat videos. Because once I learned this, it was hard for me to reintroduce myself to life.

[B]

Really, for you is a.

[A]

What is it, Kyle?

[B]

Say it.

[C]

Kyle, for you is a lot of the question. What? My question was just that, like, why are you making this so difficult for yourself? Or is it just like a general fascination?

[A]

No. Why? What the hell? What on earth?

[B]

That one's just running up a wall.

[A]

Yeah, look at that. The body. It's not like they have a slender build. Do you see them going up backwards?

[C]

That's like an elevator.

[A]

That's not an elevator.

[C]

Oh, okay. I thought it was an elevator.

[A]

In fact, it's nothing like an elevator. It's the opposite of an elevator, Kyle.

[C]

Well, let's just do it. I thought. Yeah, it's not an elevator. It's more a mountain goat.

[A]

It's running up the mountain.

[C]

Well, that's a fully different technique right there.

[A]

Now, can you find a video where you see the mountain goat jump? Jump from mountain to mountain to mountain and then down.

[B]

Let's pull one of those up. You know, we've got a.

[A]

Because if this isn't the craziest thing

[B]

that is insane to everybody. Everybody's all like, Spider Man. What about Mountain Goat Man? Or Woman? You know, like, he's a superhero.

[A]

Mountain Goat Woman.

[B]

Mountain Goat Woman.

[A]

That's my superhero.

[B]

That's your superhero. Water Wet Man, Wetman, Wet Guy. Water Man, Wet Guy and Water Man.

[A]

Goat and Mountain Goat Woman.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or am I mountain goat lesbian?

[C]

That is something that I feel like you have to decide for yourself. Like.

[B]

No, we get to decide.

[C]

Well, I don't want to force that on somebody.

[B]

You're not forcing.

[C]

I decided to work out for myself.

[A]

You guys decided I was a lesbian?

[B]

Yeah, we get to decide if you're a lesbian.

[A]

Wait, where are the mountain goats? Jumping back and forth. Gravity is just a theory. That one I'm certain will. Oh, it's an hour long movie. If we have time.

[B]

I don't have to sit here and watch this.

[A]

I have to get my kids till 4:30. Oh, look at that little baby.

[B]

They know how to do this is

[C]

what I was curious. I just want to see. Like, they know that they can just be on level ground.

[B]

Yeah, but they like to lick the rocks. There's probably nutrients in those.

[A]

Have you ever licked a rock? You'd climb up a mountain to lick

[B]

the rocks and nobody's licking those rocks. Those are unlike rocks.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

What if we miked the mountain goats and they were like.

[C]

And I listened to you again. Charlie,

[B]

this is just. This has been fascinating. I.

[A]

Is it time for me to leave?

[B]

You gotta go.

[C]

I don't know. I've been sort of dealing with a podcast this episode. No context.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, you guys are gonna have to go on YouTube and watch.

[A]

Look at that.

[C]

I guess what I'm saying, our prior listeners to this show is what I feel bad.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You're stunned.

[C]

Favorite type of mountain goat. Tall? Little, Small? Big.

[B]

Yeah, like with a white fluffy Small.

[A]

Little, Small Big.

[C]

Oh, these are different.

[B]

These are all different styles.

[C]

You could throw something else out there.

[A]

I love just an average size mountain goat.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Yeah. What about you? What size?

[B]

The bigger the better.

[A]

Do you like tiny large?

[C]

I like tiny. I like teeny tiny.

[B]

I like a big mountain goat. Like, because I can't. When I see a big mountain goat go up the side of a mountain like that. I can't believe it. Yeah, I'm like that. The bigger the goat, the more wild it is for me.

[C]

How many mountain goats do you think you've seen in your life?

[A]

I mean, so many.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And.

[A]

And when we drive through the mountains with our kids, I'm like, guys, look at the mountain. Just keep your eye open. Because when you see a mountain goat, it's incredible.

[C]

Life changing.

[B]

You're doing. What are you doing? The drive from Denver to wherever. Wherever through the mountains.

[C]

How do your kids feel about the mountain goats?

[A]

Nobody's quite. I talk about mountain goats a lot. Especially drive me through Colorado. See if I talk about anything else. There it is.

[B]

That is. That's gotta be AI.

[C]

It actually does look like it could be AI. Sorry. And for the listeners, we're just really, really.

[B]

We're just watching ghosts jump over these like caverns.

[C]

There's a nice.

[B]

And they're stretching out. Slow mo. They're just kind of.

[C]

Charlie.

[B]

But we're not seeing them land. Oh, there goes one.

[C]

A lot of space between these.

[A]

It's the same video over and over.

[C]

Mountains on two sides of the two edges of the screen. And a goat jumping.

[A]

Okay, get that eagle one.

[B]

Yeah, I want to see that eagle one. That. See that one doesn't. That's gotta be. That's not real.

[C]

That's. I think that is real. Oh, so that you're sort of chilling on top of the big mountain goat.

[B]

Oh, there's a little baby on the mama.

[C]

And the maybe just sort of disappears at some point.

[A]

That seems. AI ish.

[B]

That's not real.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

But you know, but it's still.

[C]

They are, but not far.

[A]

Oh, look at that. Oh, that's like a. I don't know. This doesn't seem real, but that kind

[B]

of reminds me of Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible.

[A]

I just met.

[B]

You just met him.

[A]

I really do.

[B]

I saw this clip online.

[A]

A clip? It's just a picture.

[B]

No, I saw a clip at the Governor's Ball.

[A]

Maybe a video.

[B]

Yeah, it's like you guys are. I didn't like, see. I didn't like, hear anything. I don't know if it was the

[A]

moment you have to send it to me, but people have told me I look like Tom Cruise my whole life. Life. Not my whole life, but, you know, in the past 25 years. And then there I was at the Governor's Awards and he was there and I was like, there's no chance. I mean, I'm not a hunt down a celebrity kind of gal.

[B]

No, I wouldn't think so. I was like, I gotta meet this.

[A]

I'm never gonna be in a room with this guy again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I went up and I, I just, and you know, to bring up being a lesbian again, I just, I showed him a picture where I look unusually more Tom Cruise than Tom Cruise has ever looked in his life.

[C]

Was that. It was you. You, you had to go on your phone, be like, I've got to show you this.

[A]

No, no, no. I just have some texts I have to respond to right now.

[B]

Okay, that's totally cool.

[A]

No, I, I, I showed him this particular photo of me and, and I said, this is me, sir. I said, if you need a lesbian sibling that looks, that looks a lot like Cruz, then. And we can put this on the show for our listeners.

[C]

Yeah, that's a mountain goat exclusive. Yes, there, right there.

[B]

We could do the, so the mountain goat on the mountain and then Tom Cruise and then you and kind of walk together.

[C]

I would be nervous. I mean, I don't know how, how long of a conversation was this?

[A]

Maybe two minutes.

[C]

See this, this is the part that scares me the most. Like, I've been told I look like you for the last 20 years. Can I show you a picture? Like this moment of having.

[A]

I thought you were telling me you've been telling.

[B]

Yeah, it did feel like Tig.

[C]

No, no, no, no, I was Tig.

[A]

You look like Tig and I was truly looking at your face. Did you see, for a moment.

[C]

Did you see it?

[A]

I did. It forced me to see it and I was like, interesting. Yeah, I guess we do look alike.

[C]

I was just referring to you in this conversation with Tom Cruise. Having to get your phone and find the photo, to me, that frustrates me.

[A]

No, I had it pulled up. I was ready to go.

[B]

You saw him and you were like, here you go. Locked him up.

[A]

He was surrounded by security and reps and so many people. And I was there with the producer of the film. I was there for. And I was like, follow me closely. This is my opportunity and take any picture because I don't know if I'll actually get to Tom Cruise, but I had my picture of myself ready. And this is, you know, this isn't just a run in on the street that, you know, I'm like in a, at an award show with the biggest celebrities and Tig and, and, But I was like, I'm making my move. I'm, I'm coming in.

[B]

I'm so glad you did.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And was, was, was it received well, did he?

[A]

Yeah, he had a good laugh.

[B]

He had a good laugh. It seemed like you guys were having a fun time.

[A]

Oh, we were. Yeah. It was. It was. I'm sure he's talking about it somewhere on a podcast.

[B]

Yeah, on a mountain goat podcast.

[A]

Somewhere out there, for sure. No doubt.

[C]

That's awesome.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

I mean, I feel like anything like that. That you've been. I'm saying, the most basic, obvious thing one could say, but, like, that you've been holding on, not holding on to this thing, but that it's been this sort of constant in your life to some degree, and then it comes to a culmination.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

This is like, how does it feel now that you connected with them?

[A]

Feels really good. I didn't know how happy it was going to make me. Also, my wife loves Tom Cruise, and she thinks he's very handsome. And, you know, I've always been the DIY knockoff version that she married, and it's the best I can do. But when I came home with that picture of her two loves, nothing has changed in our life.

[C]

Where do you think Tom Cruise falls on mountain goats?

[A]

I would imagine he. I think anybody alive that can learn, can be educated about this would stand where we stand, you know? Yeah, I don't know where he stands,

[B]

but, I mean, as a guy who does all his own stunts, you. No, no. Tom Cruise. I mean, I do all my own stunts.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're water guy.

[B]

Yeah, I'm water guy. I get wet. Yeah. But I would think he'd see this and be like, these are my people. Yeah, he is a mountain goat.

[A]

Well, maybe we can send some of these Google clips to his reps. That would be great. See if we can get him to watch it.

[B]

Also, like, if anybody is in a room with Tom Cruise around him, please show him the podcast and take the first five callers. Yeah. We would love to see some sort of response from Tom.

[A]

Look at that. Look at that.

[B]

That's Tom Cruise basically right there. He's just running.

[A]

They are the Tom Cruise.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Of goats.

[C]

I want to also sort of shout out the. The person filming these. Goat.

[A]

It's not a person. It's another goat.

[B]

Oh, it's a goat.

[C]

Well, that's even more impressive.

[A]

Cloven hooves recording.

[B]

So they're kind of like. Like little skaters. Like, they're like, be like, all right, run up this mountain.

[C]

I got you sort of of slowly flying through the air, shooting the other goats.

[B]

Okay, well, you learn more about mountain goats every time you do a Podcast

[A]

about them and you guys don't.

[B]

Well, I learned a lot.

[A]

Okay, but this is your first time to learn anything about mountain goats, right?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I. You know what? When.

[A]

Yeah, what is it, Kyle?

[C]

Well, what I was gonna say. What I was gonna say was that. Do you know that there's. Well, there's a band called the Mountain Goat.

[A]

I do. Not to be confused with the band. Did you think when I said mountain goats, I meant the band?

[C]

I didn't think so, but I thought that that's maybe something I could say at some point. And I think there's an instrument that's called the mountain goat, I believe.

[A]

I don't know about that.

[C]

Can we look up mountain goat instrument might be that my friend called this instrument that he had a mountain goat. But let's see.

[A]

Is this what the show is, is Googling?

[C]

No, this is the first time we ever.

[B]

This is the first time. Wow, I didn't know that.

[A]

Is the goat horn rare? Can you click on that? Oh, my God. This is what the podcast is. Just. Hey, can you click on that?

[B]

That is good.

[A]

Yeah, it is.

[B]

Just surfing the Internet.

[A]

It's called Click on that with Beck and Kyle.

[B]

Click on that.

[C]

Can I throw another. I think that is it. But can I throw another picture on it?

[A]

I know that is it, by the way. Okay, okay, okay. If this isn't your most popular episode, then there is something.

[C]

Either you have a starting point or an ending point or both. And it's like. It's like a Six degrees of Kevin Bacon type thing where it's like you're trying to get from mountain goats to Sinead o'.

[A]

Connor. Like, click on that. Mountain goats. The band or the animal?

[C]

Let's say the animal.

[A]

Okay, let's say two.

[C]

Two. Two completely different subjects for sure. You start on mountain goats and then it's just. Can you click on that? Can you click on that? Can you click on that? Can you click on that until hopefully you end up at Sinead o'?

[B]

Connor? Yeah, I think that would be a great idea.

[C]

Or just click on that is a

[A]

good idea, too, I think. Click on that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I've had four podcasts. I started podcasting. You do know.

[C]

It's okay before.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like before early days.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so that. Well, everybody, we want to thank you again for being on mountain goats.

[A]

Is this over?

[B]

Well, this part of the podcast is. We're actually going to go talk about really quickly at the end.

[A]

Are we going to another room?

[B]

Just the same room that we were in.

[A]

Oh, the same. You guys should go to a third room.

[B]

Ah, you're right.

[C]

Why would you the first person to suggest that?

[B]

Actually, that's a really good idea.

[A]

I think so Again, I've been doing podcasts for years.

[C]

You've done four.

[A]

I've done four. Handsome is the most recent one.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This is why it's so helpful to have you on.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So what room?

[C]

Well, we're going to be right back. We want to thank Tig Notaro for joining us on. I think one of our most successful episodes of Mountain Goat would have to be.

[B]

It would have to be.

[A]

And am I going to be part of the third room?

[C]

You're invited. We would love to have you. If you're interested.

[B]

You can leave if you want, but we'd like to have you. It could be like, two minutes.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I'll go.

[B]

Okay, cool.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

All right. We'll see you guys in a second.

[C]

See you guys soon. First of all, I want to say thank you for coming on our show.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Thank you for having me.

[C]

Thank you for such a wonderful concept and pitch. And I think what I don't.

[A]

Click on this.

[B]

Click on this.

[C]

Well, click on that. But Mountain goats is.

[A]

Click on that.

[B]

Click on that.

[C]

Click on that. Yeah.

[A]

Click on that. Click on that. Click on that.

[B]

Click on that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But what. What I thought was really special about today was that genuinely.

[A]

I know what you're gonna say.

[C]

Okay. Do you want to say it for me?

[A]

No, I want to hear you say it.

[C]

We genuinely learned something.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And maybe our listeners and. Or people watching learned something, too.

[A]

Maybe we changed one life.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think that's. I think that's probably true.

[A]

I think it's definitely true, Stephanie. Because she's the only one listening.

[B]

Yeah. Thanks for listening, Stephanie.

[C]

She must have heard about the mountain goat stuff. Stuff, though.

[A]

She's her mom.

[C]

You said that you would say it

[A]

in the cars, but it hadn't changed her life.

[C]

This could.

[B]

Until. Until this moment.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's really special, the mountain goat stuff.

[C]

It was really nice just having an expert like yourself who has been through the podcast game.

[A]

And I've done four.

[B]

You actually pitch, and you've done four podcasts.

[C]

You.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

We were talking about that earlier. Not only. Not only did you pitch mountain goats, but we also heard about the concept of click on that and a potential podcast where the three of us talk about parenting.

[B]

Yeah. So we have three really good ideas.

[A]

Here's what I'm going to suggest.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

The three of us do a podcast called Click on that Baby. And we click on parenting videos.

[B]

Okay. And we talk about, like, whether it's like, techniques or something. Like, try this the next time your kid's.

[A]

Or like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Timeouts or whatever.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Okay, great. And so. And how much of the podcast do you think is us, like, just watching a clip versus, like, talking?

[A]

I think we just need to leave it open.

[B]

Yeah. And we need to let it find itself.

[A]

Yeah. I don't believe in forcing anything. I love that you love forcing things.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[C]

I love that you have a way of being and thinking when it comes to forcefulness.

[A]

Us.

[B]

Yeah. Now, now, the reason we're all here, really, is because you have a new documentary out.

[A]

I do.

[B]

Called Come See Me in the Good Light.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I thought I was going to be telling you something you didn't know.

[B]

No, no, I.

[C]

We know Kevin Nealon on recently and he was telling us about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have you watched it?

[B]

Have not watched it. I really want to and I'm going to.

[A]

Kyle.

[C]

I've not. I've not watched it yet, but. But I'm with Beck.

[B]

I've heard incredible things about it.

[A]

It's the number one movie on Apple.

[B]

Really? That's so exciting.

[A]

Out of all the genres, it is the number one.

[C]

That is a huge. Congratulations. That's awesome.

[B]

And are you in the documentary briefly towards the end?

[A]

No, I mean, you gotta watch the movie.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But it's about my friend, Andrea Gibson, poet, incredible human being who had ovarian cancer and sadly passed away a few months ago. But we raised money and independently produced this. Kevin Nealon and his wife, Susan Yeagley were a couple of the people. It was one of those things where I was just walking down the sidewalk and I saw them. I was on the phone with Stephanie and I almost just. Just waved and kept going. But I said, oh, I just ran into Kevin and Susan. Let me call you back. We start talking. They're huge fans of Andrea's poetry. And I said, oh, I'm working on a documentary about Andrea. And they were like, we'd like to kick down some cash.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So. But we independently financed it and produced it and it won the Sundance Film Festival.

[B]

Oh, that's so cool.

[A]

Even out of scripted.

[B]

That is really.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

That's incredible.

[C]

I feel like an urgency to see this now.

[A]

Well, and speaking of the word urgency, I tell people this documentary. Andrea was an incredible poet, but also one of the funniest people. Was a real good laugh. Hang just so deeply silly. As deeply deep as the poetry was, the silliness was there as well. But I tell people, yes, it's devastating, but it's also really funny.

[B]

That's what I hear.

[A]

Yes. And everybody walks out of the theater with an urgency to live a better life and more meaningful, joyful life. And I am deeply proud of this film. And I know we've had some good laughs about mountain goats and boat shoes, but that's another podcast. Mountain goats and boat shoes. But that's for another episode.

[B]

That's for another episode.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But anyway, yes. I really cannot encourage you enough to watch this film. It's so beautiful.

[C]

Wow. And that goes to everybody out there as well. Please.

[A]

Apple tv number one film I have.

[B]

I did. That's a perfect spot to end it. But I do want to ask you. I did see a clip of you talking about it, and you talked about how you walked away from the experience wanting to look at your life differently and change certain things and how you, like, I'm just curious what those. What those things might be. And talking about death and normalizing. Talking about death and, and all of that. And, like, I'm just. I'm just curious how you, like, how it changed me. Yeah. And, like, and how. How you. And maybe if I'm. If I'm understanding correctly how you. You, like, bring the conversation of death into your life in a way that is. Well, that sort of normalizes it or. Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

I, I. When Andrea passed away, that was the fourth end of life deathbed or bedside that I had been at. The other three were in hospitals, and Andrea wanted to die at home surrounded by loved ones, which is 1 million percent what happened. And it was one of the most. It's so crazy to go from mountain goat conversation to this, but I'm gonna do it because it is very important to me. But it was one of the most beautiful and painful experiences to go through. But this was also just like the other experiences. But there was an open dialogue like I hadn't experienced before. And I just can't encourage people enough to really look into hospice nurses and death doulas. And, I mean, not that I'm going to abandon my career, but I get it. Being a hospice nurse and death doula, because these people were so extraordinary. And I'm sure you're gonna find a weirdo rattling around in any situation, and sometimes there's a weird death doula or whatever, but I was really floored by these people. They were such incredible human beings. And I think death is Gonna happen for all of us. Surprise. And so it shouldn't be like you have a. Like a. What am I trying to say? Like a dam holding the wall, the water back. You know, water, man, you let. Should be flowing the whole time. You know, that's coming. Have the conversation. There shouldn't be a surprise. It's hard. It's not an easy conversation. But when somebody is sick or even before somebody is sick, you should start introducing the conversation of death and how you want it to be. And I just. I think that it's so crucial and, you know, after working on this film, I work in Toronto on the new Star Trek series. I tour, I podcast. I'm a busy little bee. But when I was sitting in Toronto for six months, I had this realization in a real way of, I wanna be with my family. I asked to be downgraded to a recurring guest star. Cause I was like, I don't want an apartment in Toronto. I love my family. I love my life. I want to be with them. And so I did. I downgraded myself to guest star. I am so happy that I did that. And now I'm like. I asked my agent, I was like, just book me a weekend a month. And I want to be. I want to actually live my life and be around for it. And so I know that that movie really shifted my life in that way. And also the idea of. Because I've had plenty of health issues and it's made, I was like, okay, I gotta get through this. I gotta live. And not that I'm, like, wanting to die, but it's coming.

[B]

Yeah. Not fearing it as much as this

[A]

end and just having a conversation. And I just think it's so crucial, and I just can't encourage you enough to see this film. It's just deeply beautiful.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Thank you so much for sharing that. Yeah, I can't wait to see it.

[A]

Thanks for letting me shift gears from all the mountain goat fun.

[B]

Yeah, our pleasure.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, it's that time. We had a great day, actually. We've learned so much today. And I do appreciate all that you do, Tig.

[A]

I do appreciate. On a serious note, I love your nonsense and your silliness.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

It's my favorite thing in the world.

[B]

Oh, wow. That's amazing. That means a lot. Thank you so much.

[C]

Well, everybody, have a great day.

[A]

Who are you talking to?

[B]

We never know.

[C]

My friend Andy.

[B]

Kyle's always talking to Andy out there.

[A]

And you just. You're looking up there.

[C]

Hello, Andy.

[B]

Everybody check out Mountain Goats and come see me in the good light.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Bye.

[C]

What's Our Podcast is a Headgun podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.

[B]

The show is produced and engineered by Rochelle Chen and Anya Kanovskaya with production support from Ali Khan and Ryan Lutz.

[C]

So our executive producer is Anya Kanefskaya. Katie Moose is our VP of content at Headgum. Our theme music is made by us.

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For more podcasts by Headgum, visit headcum or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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That was a Headgum podcast.