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This is a Headgun podcast.
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Hi, Rockos.
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This is Jane Wickline. Kyle and Beck have very kindly allowed
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me to come on here to tell you about the upcoming run of my
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Off Broadway show in New York. I think they feel a certain fondness for me because I'm SNL's current freak that gets cut for time.
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Anyway, it's a musical comedy show that I perform with comedian Leva Pierce.
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It's called Dukes, and it's about friendship, desire, and beautiful women. And tickets are available@sohoplayhouse.com also.
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Hope to see you there. All right, back to you, Kyle and Beck. Wow.
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Yay.
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Another episode of what's our Podcast. But first, a little special announcement.
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This is.
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This is very big.
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This is.
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It's very huge and big.
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I think this is life changing for me.
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Yeah, that's the way I feel. As long as it goes.
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Well.
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Well, even if it doesn't, it is altering my life.
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Yeah, it already has.
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The big announcement is we are starting a Patreon.
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Yes. You're saying to yourself, oh, yes.
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You know, it was a risk. It was a swing to even start a podcast together back.
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Yes, it was.
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We didn't know what it is. We still are finding out what it is every single week when we come together with our guests. And when you and I sort of mess around on the microphone, let's tell
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them what it is. For the first tier, Rocco Basics here.
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It's five bucks a month. You're gonna get a bonus episode every week. No guest. Okay. It's just Beck and I doing what we've been doing Since September of 2003, when we first met each other.
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For that tier, we have slopping out, which is just the two of us
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hanging out with each other.
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It's like our intro to our show.
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Yeah, but it's longer. We can go into bits longer.
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We can also be earnest, learn about each other's lives.
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Yes. Catch up for longer. Or we also have what's your podcast? Where we take ideas from our Patreon members at a certain tier. At the $10 tier, which is the next tier, we take your ideas and we try that podcast out. Right, but you can pitch those ideas at the $10 tier.
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Yes, for 10. Once you get to the $10 tier, premium rod. We're calling Rocco Premium Rocco Premium. That's where you actually get to pitch the ideas that we will do on our podcast. You're also gonna get access to an exclusive chat. A chat room.
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Yes.
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The Discord. The Rocko Discord, where you can Talk with other fans, other listeners. Probably kind of do your own little bits. Make some friends. Maybe you can grab dinner or coffee with one another sometime.
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Also, with the $10 tier, you get access to, you get to see what we're calling our sillies.
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Y. You know, we came up making videos together, full circle. Because now you and I are just gonna make a little video. We already started. Get a little iPhone, make a little video, play some characters, do some bits,
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just come up with an idea and pop it right off and just shoot.
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Yeah, we don't need to labor over it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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We just kind of have fun and pump it out to our rockos. You know what I mean?
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I know exactly what you mean. I love it.
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Yes.
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For 15 bucks, you get all that stuff, plus you get free access to our new ticketed livestream. So, like, we will talk to you directly. You can ask us questions. We'll be doing these quarterly throughout the year.
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We might do poppers there. We don't know yet. It's only gonna be legal stuff, but
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we're gonna have fun.
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We're supposed to do poppers. Yes. And here's the thing for Rocket supreme, if you sign up for a full year, you'll get a side headshot of me and Kyle. We don't know, but it's gonna be an amazing family heirloom that you get and you can, you know, frame it and put above the fireplace or something or that.
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It is really gonna be fun. I think it's gonna be a place to see some really weird, wild and
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crazy stuff where we just get to do whatever we want without really caring. So, yeah. So go to patreon.com what's our podcast? And join today, please.
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That's patreon.com what's our Podcast? And be in the Rocco Club with all your fellow Roccos.
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Podcast, what's it gonna be all about? Tell us what's our podcast? We what should we talk about with Beck and Kyle? Oh, and we're rolling.
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Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no.
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You caught me.
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Everybody, everybody down. Oh, no.
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Stick up.
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Oh, please, please, sir, do not do this. You do not want to rob me.
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I want to stick up the place.
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You want to take everybody's money?
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Yeah.
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There's probably one of those blow up things in it. It's going to blow purple dye all over your face and you're going to look like Grimace. Did you ever think about that? You look like a fool.
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You're talking about if I get into the safe, I'm going to. Oh, there's going to be. I'm going to turn. There's. I'm turning into someone who looks like a grimace.
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Yeah, they're going to put one of those robber packs in the thing and it's going to blow up. I've seen the movies.
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Look, maybe I should rethink this. Yeah.
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Tell you what, I like bad boys. I would just let everybody go. Why don't you just absolutely ravage me in the safety deposit box room and then we can call it a day.
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Now what do you.
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What are you gonna allow. How are you gonna allow me to ravage you?
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Upside down, inside out, left, right, Any Audi, anything you can think of. I can't wait. Cause I like you for who you are. You don't have to rob the bank.
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I'm not technically attracted to you.
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That's okay. End scene. Welcome to what' Our podcast, everybody. With back Kyle Mooney.
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Kyle Mooney.
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And we don't know what our podcast is about, so we're going to sit here and try to figure it out. It's. It's.
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We're searching.
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We should bring in a guest. Guest can be like, huh. Your podcast should be about searching My Little Pony.
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Yes. And that would be amazing. And we would explore that because me and Kyle are searchers. We're searching.
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I like that. Well, there's an old movie I don't know if you ever heard of the Search.
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I haven't heard of it.
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It's an old western.
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What is it called?
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The Searchers.
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I have heard of that one.
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Yeah.
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Old, Old movie. Sort of shoot em Up. Really, really great movie. And I'm sure you could find it on Amazon or Apple is also doing. They're selling the movies too, I believe
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that's so I remember.
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I'm curious if you remember this.
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I don't know. Yeah, I'm curious.
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Well, let me. I'm gonna. I'm gonna pick your brain a bit here, so to speak. By the way, I'm always. I've always wondered where that phrase came from. Pick your brain.
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Yeah. It doesn't sou comfortable.
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No. Yeah. I imagine somebody with chopsticks, you know,
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I always imagine somebody with long fingernails, like kind of going through files, you know, kind of.
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I like that too. That would be. Now you're making me think of surreal art. Salvador. Salvador. Salvador.
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Salvador art.
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Salvador style art.
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Salvador style art. Oh, that's kind of Salvador style.
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But, but I was going to say, do you remember itunes?
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Itunes. On the old itunes. Yes, I do. And there's. It's still around. I still pop into it every now and then.
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Well, now it's Apple music, I think, actually, is it Apple music or is it itunes?
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Let's find out.
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I don't know.
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Apple music might be like a different.
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It is music. It just says music.
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Okay, so I was right in this. So this time I was right.
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What happened to itunes?
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What?
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Yeah, can you look up what happened?
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Are they just regular tunes on Apple music or are they itunes on Apple Music?
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Let's just see what you say. It continued in 2019.
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Wow. And now that was before the pandemic, right?
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Before the pandemic. That's suspicious.
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Interesting. Yeah.
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Maybe Apple knew and they were like, we need to make a change now.
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Do you think now how much of it is now? What is the I. Is it Internet?
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Is it.
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I like me, Kyle. Cause it's ipod, iPhone, itunes. I don't know where it comes from.
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I don't know what my podcast is.
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What do you think it stands for? I think because that was Steve Jobs, I believe.
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Yeah. Can you look up Steve Jobs? I actually never wondered this question to myself or to anyone else.
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It was introduced by Steve Jobs and does stand for Internet.
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Wow.
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Would you look at that?
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Wow.
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So the imac was always the Internet.
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Mac.
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The Internet Mac. Was there ever a Macintosh? I guess the Macintosh computer existed before he was there.
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Yeah, definitely.
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But it wasn't the imac. So it's really. That's really, really, really.
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So any other question? Like techie questions for us?
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Yeah, drop them.
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I think I've gotten everything right so
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far in the podcast in terms of
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what we've talked about, what I stands for. That itunes no longer exists.
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Yeah. What?
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Search just feels like I'm kind of. Yeah, you're carrying the sort of.
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Yeah, you carry Research department. Absolutely. You. That's what you have a brain for. Logging facts. Mine is a little bit more interpretive and, you know, sort of artistic. Artistic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, I.
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You know, I've always wondered what it would be like to go inside of your brain.
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I always wondered what it would I be like to go inside your brain, too.
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Yeah, well.
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And, you know, we all have problems. We all have different. We all have different strengths and weaknesses.
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That's true.
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And I'm. It's. It's wonderful that you can recite so
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many facts and you can interact with people normally.
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That takes a lot of energy.
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Yeah.
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Takes a lot of brain. Like, takes a lot of my bandwidth.
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I. Did you hear about this, by the way?
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I didn't.
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Did you Hear about Rochelle and her magic tournament this weekend?
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I did.
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I didn't hear about it afterwards. I heard about her preparing for it.
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She has a demon deck.
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Well, I heard about that. Yeah.
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And it's a very mean demon, from what I understand.
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Well, the demon deck is a very mean demon.
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Well, this is my question to her, because she sort of presented it that way. But the demon deck, I believe, has several demons in it. Is that right?
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It sounds about right.
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There are about 10 demons in it. Now, let's hear the.
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Those demon names.
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Oh, okay. Buckle up, everybody.
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Okay, the main. My main guy, the Commander, is named Valgavoth.
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Okay, well, that's interesting.
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Terror.
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Balgovoth. Harrower.
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Harrower. I'm a hairbird of shows. Oh, that's scary. Oh, the Harrower is coming.
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Okay, who else you got?
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I have Rakdos, Lord of Riots.
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Rakdos, Lord of Riots. Wow. Okay.
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Boring.
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He comes out after. After the.
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After.
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After the Lakers win the championship.
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Mayhem Devil.
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Mayhem Day Devil.
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Mayhem Devil.
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What's his name?
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What's it.
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What's. What's their name?
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That one. They didn't.
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That's just his name. Mayhem Devil.
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They didn't want to give him a name like Vigorio or.
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That's Demon's. Like, I don't have a name.
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Carter.
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Doom Scourge.
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Carter. Hey, my name's Carter. I'm the Doom Scourger. That's scary. Okay, who else we got Nails?
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You have one named Nails?
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No.
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That sounds like a Sonic the Hedgehog character.
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Yeah, it does.
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Mogus.
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Oh, I like Mogus. Mocha says Mayhem Devil.
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Please forgive me.
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Yeah, I accidentally lost the dory wand, so. By the way, do you have any more pugoo porridge?
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Yeah.
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So is Mogo the Kyle Devil? That's. That's basically you. That was a really good impression of you.
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I don't talk like that. I talk like this.
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Yes, that's true. That's true. We got any other devils you want to tell us about or.
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Now, why are you going on your now? You. You're looking at your computer. Do you have them all? Like you have a database? What are you looking at?
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Yeah, I'm looking at my decklist online. Okay.
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I would say don't say that out loud, Kyle.
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Why. Why are you in charge of what looks good and what doesn't look good? With magic? The Gathering. I think Relle would know. I think she knows it's okay to look at the thing online.
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You're right. I know that was really rude, and I. And I Brought. And I. Like, I. I just told. Before we started recording, I was like, relle, I'd like to play magic with you. And now here I am. I roasted you briefly. And I did not. I apologize. I. I was having.
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You're doing everything right.
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There's no reason to, like, come down after.
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She's a very busy lady.
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Michelle does everything for us. I. The decklist now. It was just your demon.
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That's fine.
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Can I defend myself momentarily? It's not. And it's not defendable.
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You have 10 seconds.
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Okay, count it down.
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10.
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I asked about Rochelle's demon deck. I thought she would know what demons are in a demon deck. Instead, I see her staring at a computer, and I'm like, she doesn't know what's in her demon deck.
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You're right. I actually don't.
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Yeah, she's. You know, she's got a lot.
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She's looking at her decklist.
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Yeah.
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She's also under pressure. You know, she's. You know, she's.
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So do you.
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Is there a website?
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There's a website where you can put all your cards in, so you log them in.
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So you're like, ooh, you gotta. Do you have to. Is there a pool tab for Mayhem Devil? Got him. Put him out of my decklist.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And do you have a screen name? You don't need to say it.
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Yeah, I have a screen name.
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She can leave.
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You just.
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Just leave. Just leave her alone.
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Okay?
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She's. This isn't Magic the Gathering. This is the. What's our podcast? The Gathering.
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Okay.
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So is there anything.
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Thank you for sharing that with us.
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Thank you for sharing that, Rashad.
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Thank you for asking about it.
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Appreciate you. Is there anything that you want to share with me since the last time we've seen each other? Did anything go down?
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Okay, we're talking. When did I see. I saw you Friday. Here's a thought I had.
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Okay.
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It's. This is kid. Kid talk, which is. Can be alienating. I've said it before.
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For.
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Yes. I. I often think about you. That comment you said when we talk about our children, but, you know, it's okay. It's our lives.
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What did I say?
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Said something about, like, you. You read somewhere that the most boring thing is for other people to talk about their children or other.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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To hear people talk about. Yeah. I. I observed that today. You and. You and I, when we run into each other at school, preschool, dropping off our kids, like, we both tend to, like, kind of have fun with.
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Yeah.
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Our.
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Each other's Kids, Right.
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Yeah.
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Like, I'll do a bit with Ruby. You'll do a bit with you.
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You do a baby who's pooping and farting.
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It's constantly requested.
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Yeah, well, because you. Because you do it. Yeah. And then so that's.
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Do you think I should be like, I'm not going to do it?
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You. No, no, no, I know. I think you do whatever you are. You have the energy for. But sometimes, you know, I get. I get. I get worried about what. What I do when. Because he's going to want more. I really.
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I like the feeling of being desired.
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Yes. I think it's great.
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And now it's spread to, like, Ruby's friends.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. No, it's great. You're pooping.
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Here's the guy who's a baby.
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Yeah.
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You know when you take a swing with a. With a. With a kid.
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Yeah.
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And you just don't. You fail.
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Yeah.
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That's funny. It is funny to be like, oh, how you doing? And they just give you a full blank face.
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Bea didn't do that to me this morning. But it was a little. She was hiding a little. She was smiling a little bit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, she liked it.
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It was. I was trying something new. So you were talking about what I did this morning. How you connect with the kids and how I took a swing and missed.
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It made me think of being in that place. You did not miss.
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Okay.
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It just made you think of missing in front of kids. And while everyone was.
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You always connect with my child. She looks forward to seeing you. Oh, gosh. We're gonna need a timeout here.
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We need to go back.
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It's all right.
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My son has already told me that. You're the silliest one. It's everybody.
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My daughter is always asking, where's Beck? Where's Ruby?
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No, she's looking.
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She's on the search for you.
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I believe it. And I love her as well. And I actually don't think I fully struck out.
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You didn't strike out.
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I'm also used to striking out with children.
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That's.
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That's what happens a lot of the time.
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Well, yeah, I feel like.
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Okay, you.
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I admire you and you're. You're great with kids and like, by the way, not only is he a funny dad and a funny guy around kids, he makes some food. You. You want to see me make my kid food? Dude.
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Dude.
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Yeah. Here's some.
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Some freaking. Some smashed up sausage and cheese.
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Let's bring out the guest.
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Yeah. I made Ruby a banana Pancake this morning.
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Oh, yeah, that's. Kate makes those.
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Yeah, yeah, they're great. Well, you know, it's okay. It's okay.
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Oh, I can't do this.
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Okay.
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I'm not upset. I can't do this.
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I can't do this.
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I'm not upset.
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I can't do this.
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I'm not upset. I'm not upset. I just do.
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We're gonna carry it into the next thing.
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No, I can't do it.
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I do think it's genuinely funny to be like, you know, we saw each other this morning and, you know, you do stuff for the kids, make them laugh. It's always. It's funny when you strike out with a kid.
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I didn't say strike out. Did I say strike out?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It just made me think of taking swings with kids and, like, how it can be.
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Yeah. Cause you go up to him and
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you're like, hey, the guy.
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And they're like, sorry, I'm sorry. I didn't. I'm not trying to scare the kid, kids.
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Because sometimes it'll happen to kids. We have another friend who. Whose child goes to our school. And like, this kid seems to love me, but then like every once in a while, I just get give way too much.
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Like you.
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You know what I'm like, just like,
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how you feeling today?
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Yeah.
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And then it's like you're just getting stared at. Like I would. We got to bring in our guests. Yes, but I don't. But here's what I got to say to the. The two to four year olds out there.
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Yeah.
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You're not a tween yet. You can't be over me yet.
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Oh, okay. So. So you're. You're setting the rule. Yeah. You're saying that kids 2 to 4.
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I'm saying give it 10 years, then. Then. Then treat me like I'm a zero.
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Okay, so all the two to four year olds out there gave it up for Kyle when he does his silly voices and faces. Don't, don't, don't, don't.
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Don't roll your eyes like, I'm too good for this. You're not too good for this.
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You're not. You're definitely not.
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You eat your boogers. You eat your. You wipe your fingers and shit. You don't. You can't drive. I drive a car. Yeah, but I drive a car.
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But those kids, given the chance, they might be able to drive better than
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you in 10 years. 15.
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You think or you think today, maybe I'm messing, dude. I was ribbing because I was, like, trying to.
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Because, like, their feet can't even.
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I was okay. But no, we're all good. We love each other's kids and we always hit home runs. But we do have to get to our show.
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Yes.
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We can't just goof around. We can't slop out here all day.
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Right.
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We got the wonderful Vic Michaelis with us here today, who is a very funny person.
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Might know them from Dropout all over the Dropout from. They host the show Very Important People,
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the independent film Dead, the Peacock spy
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thriller Ponies, and the Hallmark film Round and Round. Is that the name of it? I'm saying it right, Right. Does anybody have it on a little sheet or something?
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Can you check your deck list?
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I've never met Vic, but they seem to be just an incredible performer and personality. Yeah, I like their work a lot.
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Hope you're going to ask them about improv.
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Of course. I think you should, because you are kind of the, you're kind of the. I don't know what I would call your intrigue. It's ironic, but it's genuine. You're an insider, but also kind of an outsider. It's a really, it's a fun place to be. Your orientation with improv is very anticipating,
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but also, like, yes, observant, but also
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doing it as a joke, but also really enjoying it.
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Also trying my best to be joke.
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Just trying your best all the time. But, yeah. All right, let's bring in. This podcast is brought to you by Fabletics. Something about Summer Kyle always makes me want to be out and about doing things all day long, whether it's workouts, golf, travel, weekend plans, or just being outside more in general. Okay. Do you, do you hear what I'm saying? I just like being around trees and grass and sand and water.
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Yeah, well, it's like, I feel like everybody these days, they just shut themselves in their room and, like, go log on. But, yeah, I feel like you should log off and explore the beauty of the earth.
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Please don't. I don't want you to lie to me.
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What type? What is what happens if you become a vip?
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Really?
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Because I feel like you've always had these very specific habits.
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I just feel like nobody would want me to be a vip. I'm just a normal guy.
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Yes.
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There's nothing special about me.
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Nobody.
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It's. It's. It's. If you want to be a vip, you can do it.
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Just if you want to be.
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Yeah, you just sign up. So stocking up on comfortable, versatile pieces doesn't feel like such a splurge. Dude, it's like it's easier this way. When I signed up as a new VIP with Fabletics, I got 70 to 80% off everything. And I'm talking about everything. It made it really easy to grab multiple workout shirts, shorts, lounge pieces and everyday staples for summer without overthinking it. I'm always overthinking it.
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But am I smart enough to be a vip?
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No. But what I've been loving most though is how the versatile pieces are throughout the day. They're like. They're like. Like it's the one thing I can depend on. Everything else is failing me in my life.
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Sorry to hear that.
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Thanks. But not Fabletics. I'm a vip. That's really cool.
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Dang.
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I want to be a vip.
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You always look.
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You always look put together. I wonder if it's because you've been the Fabletics vip.
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That's exactly what I was going to say. See, I think it's because I've been the Fabletics vip. It just makes getting dressed way easier during busy, hot, hello, hot summer days.
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It's been so hot out here.
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Yeah, my other clothes used to stick to me and fall apart. I just fall apart right up my body because it was so hot and wet.
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I love this.
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What did you say to me?
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I love the idea of a style quiz.
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I thought I was Beck Bennett.
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No, no, no, no.
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It's Kyle Mooney.
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Sorry about that. Exactly. No, all good. All good.
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Thanks, buddy.
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Yeah.
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I don't.
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It's like, oh, do I need to
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No, I want.
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It makes it easy. Make it easy on me, please.
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Yes. And you can do all those things. Photos, videos, changing fonts, you know, I mean, the designs are amazing. They're catering to all your different needs. Their SEO tools, which. I know what those are. And their custom domains.
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Oh, let's come up with a domain right now. I wonder if it exists.
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Www.friendsmeeting friends.
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Friends meeting friends.com.
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that's an original thing that we came up with. Friends meeting friends. Anyway, so check out squarespace.com headgum for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code headgum to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Hell, sounds easy. Anybody could do it.
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Can you live in a national park?
A
Yeah, Forest rangers. Park rangers.
E
Oh, so you have to have a job?
A
Yeah, you do have to have a
D
job, but you can also. You can, you can live in there. It's, it's a lot of ground to cover. So you can like, I mean, you can live at the campsites, but you can also kind of just like go in there and find a little spot to.
A
That's like. I live in Vancouver for a long time and there's like a pretty big population of people that live inside Stanley park, which is like the big park if you've ever been up there. It's just like massive right along the ocean and there's just like. It's not. I mean it is largely unhoused people, but it's like a lot of artists like live out there too. It's just like. And it's just people that sort of.
D
And is it regulated at all or people come.
A
No, no, it's just people sort of like going out there. Just. You know, housing in Vancouver is crazy, but it is I think like a lot of like artist types that are sort of like, I don't know, like live on the land, like.
D
Yeah, yeah. And, and that park is like in, it's in the city, right? It's in Vancouver.
A
It's like you cross Lionsgate Bridge, which is that like big iconic bridge and you drive through the park in order to get to the city part of it from the North Shore. It's really pretty.
D
It's. Yeah, it's really, really pretty. I spent a little bit of time there three years ago and revisited Chinatown. Yeah, it's. There's. It is an interesting. There's a lot happening around Chinatown. It can be, it can be kind of a lot to take, I don't know, your two year old son through there or something like that.
A
No, no, it's like you know the, it is so interesting because the downtown Eastside is like, it's, it's such a densely. Because Vancouver is a port city so a lot of drugs come through Vancouver and like, like Fentany Vancouver before it really like hit anywhere else. So like watching that disseminate. And it's also such an expensive city. So like you drive in one part like Yale town is right next door and it's like you know these like multi million dollar apartments to get like a one bedroom and then you drive like a couple of blocks away and it's just like dense populations of unhoused people on the street. It's like, it's, it's a really interesting place to live and there's I think a lot of dissociation that goes on
D
with the people that live there.
A
Yes, just kind of like a lot of NIMBY folks that are just sort of like, you know, they' a way to fix the housing crisis and people just being like, I just don't want it to be in my building. I don't want it to be next to me. It's like the staying how it is. Seems easier than fixing the problem.
B
True.
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Well, I had a good time there this summer. I did a show there.
C
Come on. Where?
E
Vancouver.
A
But what part?
C
Yeah, there's a lot more to Vancouver than.
B
Just
C
tell us. What was the theater?
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Bradley Arena.
A
Come on, dude.
E
Oh, man.
C
Don't be bashful.
E
Okay. I'd have to look it up.
C
What did you eat?
E
Yeah, probably eight.
A
Where on the stage did you stand?
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Yeah, closely center.
C
Nice. Did you go back left or back right at all?
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Or was it kind of just down?
E
Entered stage?
A
No, no, when you arrived that day.
E
Yeah, front door.
D
Back door to Bradley Theater.
E
That's so cool. Arena.
D
I can see it right now. Now, wait. Now you painted a picture for. For me. And vintage.
A
How long were you in town for, though?
E
A night, a day, an evening? Yeah, two days.
D
That's fantastic.
E
It was great.
D
Now we're talking Vancouver. We're talking Canada.
A
Gotta be.
D
But you are. You did not grow. You grew up in Jersey. Illinois. And then an unincorporated town outside of Toronto.
A
Yes, right.
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Yeah, that's what the Wikipedia says.
A
Sure, sure, sure.
D
And you have a Wisconsin shirt on. I grew up in Illinois, so I.
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I lived for a while, like right on the border of Illinois and Wisconsin. Wisconsin is my favorite state.
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It's incredible. My mom grew up in Madison, Wisconsin, so I was always going up is,
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I think, my favorite city in the United States.
D
Really?
C
Yeah.
D
It is really special.
E
Can I get in or.
D
No, no, no. It's me and Vic kind of doing the thing because I'm. Because I actually grew up in Illinois and my mom grew up in Madison, so we're kind of connected. It's all good.
A
Hey, no, I got a question for you.
C
Yeah.
A
What do you know about Madison?
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Well, my very close friend is from Monroe, Wisconsin, which is about an hour and a half away from Madison. And our sketch group performed at Madison in probably 2009, if I were to bet.
D
Yeah.
E
And now is. Did the onion start in Madison?
A
Oh, maybe.
D
It might have. It might have been Madison. It was Wisconsin.
E
And I was gonna ask about the cheese curds. Have you ever had cheese curds?
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They're incredible.
B
They're so great.
A
They're Wisconsin. Cheese just is incredible. Have you been to the Dells?
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I have.
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I know of it.
D
I've never been. I used to do a Dell's trip with my high school buddies in the summer, and we would rent a.
A
Did you go to Noah's Ark?
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Where I mean, I think so we went to the Dells. We would rent like a cabin at this place on the, on the lake and we would go like.
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This was in high school.
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Yeah. We go like go karting and go. We wouldn't. Noah's Ark was the water park, right?
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Noah's Ark was one of the water parks. It is the highest density of water parks per capita.
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Yeah. Describe the delicate.
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I never, I never had Noah's Ark. I was.
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I know the phrase, but I've never been.
B
Been.
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It's. It is just sort of like. Do you know like Branson, Missouri at all?
E
I know of it.
A
All my comps are going to be like Atlantic City where it's just sort of like high debt. Like Tennessee, like kind of Pigeon Forge where it's just like high density of sort of like there's a sort of like a vaguely religious overtone to it. And it is just like a lot of like theme parky stuff.
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So wait, it's a city community.
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I don't know if. Is it a city?
D
I actually don't know. Is it like the. I would. I. I would think it was the area.
A
That was sort of what I thought too. It's sort of like an advertising thing more than anything.
E
Yeah, but in a year round or is it like.
A
Oh yeah, they do. Indoor. Indoor water parks are a huge thing. The Kalahari is.
D
It's like.
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Is a must do when it's snowing.
D
Man. That's the water parks. I'm just like, ooh, all the piss.
B
Yeah.
D
It's just like those. Those are like piss infested waters.
A
Sure.
E
As much time spent on your bare feet.
B
Right.
E
I guess you could. You're walking around probably in flip flops, but once you get. I imagine you need to take off your sandals when you're in the. Going down the tube.
D
I would hope so. So that you can feel the tube like with those naked feet.
A
I think they're requiring it at this point.
D
Yeah.
A
You gotta live a little.
D
Cool.
E
So yeah. If you had to build the ultimate water slide. I'm curious.
B
No, no, no, no, no, no.
C
Barely see it.
A
No, no, no, no. It's a good question. Do you get on Instagram those videos of like I don't know what kind of videos they are. I'm hoping roller coaster that are just of water slides.
D
No.
A
And they talk about the survival rate of what the water slide would be if a person went down it.
D
Oh no. But I'm interested in that.
E
Computer generated.
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I. I think they're computer generated rather Than like AI. Because they look sort of like lo fi. Like old school, but it's hard to tell.
C
Okay.
A
But it is like this guy that just, like, builds. I said guy. I don't know. It could be anyone. Probably child who builds these water.
B
I make the water slides.
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Some stupid kid like that.
C
I think that could be the kid.
E
I don't know. Because, like, you come from improv. That'll be it.
D
Ye. Yeah. That was perfect.
A
I think you nailed the name. I think it's Andy.
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I think it's Andy.
A
It is just like. But I think a lot about. I think a lot about that. That takes up a lot of my mental space.
D
What you could get away with on a water slide.
A
On a water slide. What I could legally build in real life.
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Yeah. Did you draw. Did you draw roller coasters and shit?
D
I think so. A little bit. I mainly drew comic. Like comic book hero superheroes or like,
E
that existed or your own.
D
That was coming up with.
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That was kind of the original ip.
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Original ip.
A
Do you have an example that command.
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I don't. I really don't. I did it with my buddy Jim Harper, who ended up becoming a. A graffiti artist. Whoa, jail. Yeah.
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Right.
A
Okay. So. Yes.
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Pretty famous. Pretty well known. Yeah. And went to jail.
E
Well, there was that whole thing about Banky.
D
Yeah. For graffiti. Yeah.
E
Banksy was sort of this mysterious figure.
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I remember. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody knows who Banksy really is, except
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he spends a lot of time saying where he's from. He's from Bristol. It feels like if you hang out
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long enough, you'd run into Banks.
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You'd run into him.
D
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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But wait, we got carried away here.
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Well, yeah, I feel like. Tell me if you were going here because, like. Yeah. You spent some time in Illinois, Jersey, and then you ended up in this unincorporated
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town.
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Place.
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Area.
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Area like this, which sounds intense. It's like unincorporated. An unincorporated place. That's. Was it. Was it like the Wild west or something?
A
You know, I. It was so close to a theme park that I do think it just kind of. They didn't know what to do with it.
E
Right.
D
Really?
A
We were really close to Canada's Wonderland, which is where me and most of my siblings worked over the summer's Wonderland. Have you ever been.
D
No, I've never heard of it.
A
Canada's Wonderland. It is Canada's largest theme park.
D
Okay.
A
Sorry. I feel like I'm spending a lot of time on.
E
No, no, no, no.
A
Theme parks and sort of areas like that.
D
You know, I think it's a flow and convo. But if you want to go, like, no more theme park stuff, let's, like, jump.
A
No, I think I'm willing to do like, five more minutes on.
C
Okay.
D
Great.
C
Great.
D
It's so Canada's Wonderland.
A
It was great. I worked for a long time as, like, my. For a while. My longest type of job experience that I had was working, like, horror nights.
C
Oh.
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At a theme park. I would go back every year and I would be like a. Like, one time I was like a scary Jack the Ripper sex worker.
C
Wow.
A
Yeah. Trigger warning. Then I did like. I was like a. Like, we did a steampunk monkey thing one year. And the nice part about Canada's Wonderland is it they didn't really have a lot of rules.
E
Yeah.
A
I just had a chain I was throwing at people for the most part. Like an actual chain.
D
Wow.
C
Yeah.
E
That stuff makes me.
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And they were like, just throw it.
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They were just like, throw it sort of in, like, hit the table, make a really loud noise and it'll scare people because something's sort of coming at their face.
E
Do you remember any notable reactions, people?
A
The nice thing when I was working in the Jack the Ripper one is like, I. It was sort of my first experience doing, like, live comedy for people because we weren't really scaring anybody. So I. Me and my friend just started asking people for tips. And in Canada, loonies and toonies are coins. So the smallest amount of tips people could give us were like five. Five dollars.
E
Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
D
Kyle's got a bag. Are your pants. Yeah, yeah. You gotta ask about the looney Tunis.
B
Yeah, sorry, Vic. You're gonna.
C
About that.
E
Go back about 19 seconds.
B
Say what?
A
Loonies are the dollar coin.
D
Yeah.
A
Tunies are the $2 coin. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry.
D
I feel like there's a part of me that has heard this, but I. If you were to ask if it feels like it's new that they were. That these pieces of money in Canada are called loonies and Tunis.
A
Beck, I'm so sorry. It's super old.
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I know. I. It's super. It's way old. I. I know that. But a kai.
E
Well, it reminds me of. I'm sure you're aware of Wiley Coyote, Daffy Duck. There's the whole Looney Tunes.
A
I've heard of them. Yeah.
E
Because it almost sounds like Looney Tunes.
D
Now, is this. Is this slang or is this the official term?
A
That is an awesome question and one that I do not have the answer to. But it's like there's a loon, which is like one of the big birds. Yes, one of the big.
D
Wisconsin has a lot of them.
A
Come on. There you go.
C
Come on.
E
You're a child. You moved to Canada when you're a teenager?
A
Yeah, I'm 15.
E
What transitionally, all of these different places, was it. How did that feel? Was it. Did it feel like this is very different from where I was, or was it just like, I'm just a kid, it doesn't make much of a difference.
A
It rocked. It was amazing. I was actively begging. We were raised by my dad, so I was like, actively begging my dad. I was like, we gotta get out of here. I went from living in like the middle of nowhere, like farm country, to being in the middle of downtown Toronto. We were out there for a couple of years. I like, went to school on Bloor street, which is like a busy street, like literally in the heart of downtown. It was. It changed my life.
E
Oh, that's awesome.
D
That's great.
A
I don't think I would have known. Not that I would have never known, but like, my world got so much bigger so quickly. And I don't know if, like, I would have started taking some of the risks that I did had we not done that at that time.
E
Oh, that's great.
D
That's great. But you felt prepared to take those risks. You weren't like, oh, my God, this is such deal. A big, big change. I'm scared, I'm nervous. Did you have a moment where you had to like, break through that or was it just like you were ready
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to go as a kid? I was a real liar. And I think, like, it gave me the opportunity to sort of just like completely reinvent myself in a way that just was bold faced lies, but was stuff that, like, I knew to be true to myself. And it just gave me the opportunity to just like, say it out loud and prove it. So, like, I had never done any, like, real performance stuff or anything like that. And so I just started telling everybody I was the biggest actor at my school, at home. And so then I blew my audition. But my, my teacher was like, well, Vic is the biggest actor. It must just be like a weird. Must have been a weird audition.
C
That is.
D
That's incredible.
E
Do you know?
D
And then, and then look what happened. You put it out into the universe
A
and here we are. And here we are a tight 14 years later.
D
Yeah. No, it happened.
C
That's.
D
That's so cool.
E
You hear of these people who, like, go to college, right? And completely reinvent their personality. This. We might need this. There was a kid who went to college with Beck and I who claimed that he was the inspiration for the cartoon character Doug.
B
What?
E
His name was Doug. And he said, like, there's a third grade picture of me in like a green vest. And Nickelodeon had some sort of contest to ask if.
A
Some sort of contest, some sort of
E
contest to be like, what should we make TV shows about cartoons about? And he sent in his photo and he said, you should make a cartoon about me. My name is Doug. And it wasn't until like a decade later that somehow I don't know if I ran into him or something. Like, is Doug really based on you? He's like, nah, I made that up.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, I love that. I think that's bold.
D
I think it's innovative too. I think about that a lot because people change, right? And it's like if you are. When you're 18, you're so young and you get put into these boxes sometimes. I mean, I luckily did him, but a lot of people do. And it's like people see you as a thing.
A
Yeah.
D
And it's hard to break out of that. And if you're like, look, I'm getting away from home, I want to start over. Like, I feel like it was always like in that. That is a lie, right. That is like a bold faced lie. And it's hard because you're like. Because that is something. Like yours is different. Like, right? If you're like, I feel this thing inside of me. I want to do this thing. I'm going to.
E
You manifested.
D
You manifest. Yeah.
A
And also I'm here and you're talking to me. And you can't say that I'm a liar to my face. Even though I said about myself, well,
D
honestly, in retro fact that you were
E
like, like 15 or whatever. More though more so than like 20 years old.
C
You.
D
You probably reverse engineered it.
E
You.
D
You like, you probably are the biggest performer from where you came from.
E
And that is a performance too. You're doing a performance now.
A
At this point I'm like, I guess I don't know anybody from my high school that has also pursued performing in the way that I have. So it's like it has. I think you're right. It has kind of reverse engineered itself. I also just had a dad that like gave me bold, unearned confidence that I absolutely should not have had. He just sort of like his only move was telling me I could do absolutely anything I wanted to and that the most talented person that he'd ever met and that there just were people that hadn't seen it yet. That's like. And it just wasn't true. It simply wasn't true at the time. But it sort of is. Like, it gave me the confidence to be like, Anytime anybody would say anything, I'd be like, no, that's not true. You just don't get it. We'll keep working on it.
D
That's great.
E
Where you, like, doubted that confidence that he was giving you, like. Or did you always just take it as, like, that is the truth, or did you always know that it wasn't true?
A
Like, it was, like, pretty. I pretty delusionally believed it, even to the point where my dad at one point was like, so what's the backup plan here? And I was like, no backup plan. What do you mean?
D
He told me I was brilliant. I could do whatever I want to do.
A
It's going to take time. It's fine. If I got to get a side job while I'm working on this, and then when I'm 40, it'll happen.
D
Do your siblings have a similar sort of thing that he baked into them?
A
Kind of. I mean, like, I think all of us are, like, quite confident in that way. But, like, my siblings all have, like, more traditional paths. Like, my brother's in business. My sister is an slp. My other sister is, like, working, doing like. Like, you know, where you, like, stack stuff in stores. Like, you drive from store to store and you, like, have to, like, build displays and things like that. Be like, are you sure you don't want more chips?
D
Yeah.
A
She just got out of college. She's doing that right now. And then my brother is a robotics engineer.
E
Robotics or robotics?
A
Robotics.
D
Robotics.
E
You're kind of waiting for them to go pro and become probiotics.
D
Yeah, yeah, Probiotics. Yeah.
A
But then it's the whole thing because then they gotta get paid for the jerseys and stuff like that.
D
It's a lot.
E
Now, do you want to. I have a question. But if, like, you and.
D
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was just gonna be like, what the hell is slp? But, yeah, yeah, she's an slp.
A
Speech language pathologist.
D
Now we got it. Okay.
A
And there we go.
D
Oh, that tees up another question. But I want you to go first. I want you to go. I want Kyle to have the spotlight question.
E
Well, don't make it seem like I want this, like, a mess for the spotlight.
D
Go ahead and ask. Go ahead and ask.
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Yes.
E
First of all, Vic, it's Amazing to have you here.
D
I'm having a great time.
A
I can't even tell you. Thank you so much for having me on.
E
Absolutely.
B
Can you.
E
For audience members?
A
Yeah.
E
I'm sure that we have a lot of. I'm sure that we have overlap people who are aware of your work and some that are not, but can you sort of describe. Forgive me for putting you on the spot.
A
No, please.
E
What Dropout is, because I think. And your involvement in it, because I think it is so awesome and
D
I
E
don't know, to a degree, like, evolutionary. I feel like it's like a new type of. I mean, it's been around for a minute now, but platform way to, like, consume media that, like, serves as like, a really awesome alternative to just sort of what we, you know, the ubiquitous apps like Netflix and whatever, etc.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. You know, it's really such a gift, like, five years ago, because I do think it is quite new. You know what I mean?
C
A.
A
To be able to make any kind of money doing, like, just improv, which is what I came from. You know, I wasn't doing sketch or anything like that. And a lot of my friends were, like, either had the SNL dream or, you know, we're like, I'm hoping that somebody can see me so that way I can get on some sort like a side character on a TV show, and then that'll, like, turn into, like, having a career doing something else. So, like, being able to actually make money money doing improv is, like, something I absolutely never thought would be in the cards and is still, like, pretty incredible. So Dropout was formally college humor, which was, like, a lot of sketch stuff. That's where I got hired initially in, like, 2018, 2019, when they'd first launched dropout, literally, like, eight months before they folded and Sam bought the company. Sam Rachu is our CEO.
E
Shout out.
D
Yeah, we know Sam. Sam actually took us out to dinner when we got SNL when we got to New York.
A
Is that true? No way.
B
Yeah.
D
Yeah.
A
Where'd you go? Do you remember what door did you take when you were there?
D
It was a fancy restaurant in the meatpacking district.
E
It was definitely in the meat packing district.
A
Did you guys have a wonderful with college humor?
E
No, we neighbor did a handful.
D
We did five sketches.
E
Yeah, I think we didn't finish. I didn't think. I don't think we fulfilled our contract.
D
Yeah, but. But we got paid for the sketches we made. But at that time, it is like college humor. Funny or die.
F
Yeah.
D
All these Places were, you know, these websites that could pay performers like us to like make a little bit of money.
A
Yeah.
D
And, you know, it was very helpful.
E
Yeah. Sam, college humor sort of dissolves in some way or another. Is that accurate?
A
Yeah, it goes completely under. They tried to sell college humor. Nobody's buying, and so they're like, we're folding it. Sam then buys this Dropout side of it at the time was like largely scripted series that they had been working on. He sort of retools it. It becomes like a lot of improv, like almost exclusively.
E
Game Changer.
A
Game Changer, yeah. Is. Was the big one. They then launched Make Some Noise as well, which is like sort of where I pop back in like two years later. Yeah. It just was like kind of crazy. So they do a lot of non scripted or lightly scripted things, like D20. I know they work a lot on the story beforehand, but that is like largely. You know, Brennan has talked a lot about it being sort inspiration for that being like British chat shows where it's people sitting around a table, sort of like talking. You get the friend aspect of it as well as like the. The actual play stuff.
D
Yeah, yeah.
E
And then you. You have your own show on Dropout. Very Important Person. Which. That's the. That's the title.
A
Yeah, Very Important People.
E
Very Important People. So I didn't get it right.
B
It's okay.
D
It's okay.
A
You didn't agree the same acronym.
D
You do say person, but, you know, those clothes. He says persons instead of people. People. So it's kind of like a Kyle.
E
But I. I'm. I'm always watching the clips you've had. You've had so many. Bobby did it right.
B
Yeah.
D
It's such a cool idea. Is this was. It's. Was this your idea or was it something you were really sorry about?
E
The person thing?
A
No. Hey, don't ever apologize for anything, ever. You've never anything wrong in your life. It's true.
D
And I'm always saying that we're all good. We're all enough and good.
B
Cool.
A
That's it. You want me to call my dad? He'll tell me.
D
Yeah, I was gonna say your dad. If your dad could make some tapes.
A
Yeah.
C
You know what I mean?
D
Just like an audiobook or something. Then you could promote it. We get a little bit of your dad.
A
My business idea.
C
Yeah.
A
You know how they have those like personalized keychains and things like that. I want my dad to make videos, but just do people's names and so then people could buy the little Tapes with their name on it of him just giving them affirmations.
D
I would love it.
A
Got a thick New York accent.
D
Oh, great.
A
He's mispronounce everyone's name.
D
Oh, can do. Can you do his accent real quick? Like, what does he sound like?
C
An.
D
Wait, what was it?
B
Well, that's.
E
I don't. We don't know what that means.
D
Aner.
A
So my sister is Hannah.
E
Oh, Hannah Murphy.
D
Wow. I would love to meet her.
E
That's not how I hear it.
A
Pitch perfect accent.
D
Get ready for dinner right in it. So, yeah, so this. So very important people was. You were brought. You were.
E
Was that your idea?
A
So this is a. Sam had originally created this idea. It was called hello, my name is, you know Josh Rubin and Pat Castle. So they did a version of this. It was like five to seven minutes. Josh was always the person getting in hair and makeup, and Pat was interviewing Josh as the character Sam. Then in, I want to say 2023. 2020. Yeah.
E
2023 was like post pandemic, which we talk about. It was such an interesting time.
A
Post pandemic literally leading directly into the strikes. I get this email, like, minutes before we're going on strike, being like, hey, I know this is. This is a time we probably can't discuss it a ton just because we don't know sort of like what's happening with our role in the strike. But just putting this out there before everything shuts down for a couple. A couple of. Couple of. Hopefully a couple of days, but ended up being about a year too long. And yeah, he was just like, we were wondering if you wanted to host this show. It's like a reboot of this show we did a while ago. And then you'd have, like, a lot of creative freedom to sort of like, you know, put your. Put your spin on it. And I, like, I didn't finish reading the email. I responded, yes. I didn't look at what the offer was. I didn't look at how much I was getting paid or anything like that. I was like, I absolutely 1000% want to do that. And then, yeah, we went into production. It is. I think my favorite thing about working at dropout in general is, like, they do seem to really trust the people that they're putting in positions of power to make creative decisions, which feels very rare these days. You know what I mean? I don't know. So it was, yeah, very, very cool. It's like this cool little special thing that me and the director, I feel like, like hold very, very close. And I'M sure we are deeply annoying to the people. We.
E
The person you're interviewing doesn't. They don't know what their. What their look is costumed or.
D
Yeah. And for people. For people who don't know about it, this is. Do we. Do we already describe.
A
It's like a VFX makeup show. So we.
E
No, you're good.
D
I'm not sorry.
A
No, no, no. Please. We can apologize or not apologize. It's your podcast. Do you want me to take a. Both apologizing and not apologizing?
D
I. Yeah. I don't know. Wait, wait, do. What Do I want What.
E
And I don't think you need to apologize.
D
Don't apologize.
A
But. Yeah, it's a VFX makeup show. We get the improvisers, comedians in full prosthetics. They see themselves for the first time, and then they come and sit down and do, like, an hour of two Pro.
D
And these Pro. The prosthetics and makeup are incredible.
B
Oh, yeah.
D
Like, they really are. Like, it's. It's trippy. Like, I just saw the troll one. It's like the. It's so. It's so real. It looks sort of. Sometimes it looks a little animated.
A
Yes.
D
Or the babies that Brennan did.
A
Terrifying.
D
Terrifying. Truly terrifying. So, yeah, so it's the. It looks really real and incredible.
A
Yeah.
D
The people you have are great.
A
Alex, who's our head of makeup, like, that whole department, Gabby and Michelle, like, all of them come from, like, doing, like, a lot vfx. Of. Worked a lot with, like, during our first season. They, like, won an Emmy for a Star wars project that they were on. So they're like. They're the real deal. Their stuff is incredible. And it's kind of nice because it's like, you know, they get a lot of input in what the looks are gonna look like as well. So I would imagine, like, from that perspective, that's probably a benefit of doing a show like this.
B
Yeah.
D
Yeah. It's a. It allows everybody at every level the sort of more creative freedom, it sounds like.
A
Yeah, that's. That's certainly the aim. So I hope everybody feels like that. Cause that's certainly what we're going for.
D
Yeah, well, you're. You're so good in it. You. You write. You're, like, such a good. You're funny, but you're also, you know, the. The anchor, you know, the host, the normal person, and you do that with. You know, the looks that you give are so subtle and funny and just build the comedy of it, so. And you Keep it running so well and it's really.
A
Thank you so much. It like, it's, it's my. It's truly. It's like I, I didn't know a job like this could exist or a show like this could exist. Especially again like with what. What is getting made on the whole these days and I'm. Yeah, it's like, it's my favorite thing I've ever been a part of.
D
That's cool.
E
Awesome.
D
And you have another season coming out?
A
Yes, probably in November.
D
Okay, great. How many episodes do you do per season?
A
15.
D
15.
A
We shoot three a day.
B
Wow.
C
Wow.
A
Burn it down in like, like five, six days.
B
Do you feel it?
E
How do you think the. Now on that third one you're shooting during the day, do you feel it? Do you feel like this one might not be. I might not be as quick? Or do you feel like. No, I'm always on, you know, it
A
like it really kind of depends. I'm like in the second season, like I lost my voice completely by the end of the season and that was like doing. And we. That one was a 16 episode season. That one was like we got to the finish line and I was just sort of like, I'm, I'm done. I'm really lucky. We have my, my long time. Do you know Alex Fernie at all?
D
Yeah.
B
Yes.
A
Yeah. My longtime improv coach. He's awesome. And so he is now like a creative producer on the show as well. So like that has been a godsend. So between him and the director tomorrow, like I, I usually feel pretty taken care of and I'm like, I think performance wise for me, the three days don't are the easiest because it is sort of like it's go, go, go. Like the, the wheel is really greased. We're sort of like we're moving, we're in a flow. I prefer that to like sometimes we have like four or five days in between shoot days and I'm like coming back to that first one feels harder than doing the third one on. On one day, if that makes any sense.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. We, yeah, we mess around with that. We don't like, we don't like to do three podcasts in a row. Don't even like to do two. I get zonked.
F
Yeah.
A
This feels harder though, cuz it's like it's real life and there's real life consequences to saying something that you don't want to say.
D
Yes.
A
You know what I mean?
E
This one.
A
Yeah. You say something crazy and it gets clipped.
B
They love.
D
I know it's like you're in the hot seat, but if. If there's anything you don't want, we will clip it. Okay.
A
From like minute three to now.
D
Yeah.
E
Okay. We will clip it.
D
We will clip. We'll cut it out.
A
Oh, great.
D
No, yeah, we'll cut it out.
A
Cut it out and then put it sort of as.
D
And then we'll make it a clip. Yeah, yeah. Just the things they didn't want you to do. It's not true.
E
We're not going to do that to you. You're being so respect. I think you've shown a lot of respect to us today.
A
Thank you, Kyle. I really appreciate that.
D
And I hope we've shown a lot of respect to you today as well.
A
Yeah. I feel like Kyle's been pretty respectful and that.
D
That, that's. That makes sense. That's fair. I. I don't. I'm learning what respect is.
A
Whoa. That's awesome.
D
Yeah. And I'm trying to learn as a man.
A
That's huge.
D
And it's like a.
A
Your hands like this make you feel comfortable.
D
Make me feel open and like, I'm about talking. Talking.
A
I love that.
D
Yeah. Now you. You came up through ucb, like we said, did a lot of improv. Very important people. You've also been acting in a lot of other, like, very different things. Whether it's the Hallmark movie you did. Is it. Is it a hall. It's a Hallmark movie.
A
It's a Hallmark movie. Yeah.
D
And I. I saw bits of it. I haven't seen all of it.
A
That's very kind of you.
D
It's you. You seem. You seem great. In.
A
Was the most fun thing I've ever done. We shot thing in three weeks. Have you guys done Hallmark movies?
D
No.
A
But honestly couldn't recommend it more. You would do two takes.
E
What are they shooting?
A
Vancouver mostly? Yeah, A little bit all over the place, but largely, like, there's a huge. Especially for like the Christmas holiday movies. They do a lot of them in Vancouver. You do two takes and they go, we got it. And I go, I don't even think I said all my lines. And they go, it's gonna. It's gonna cut together perfect.
E
How do you feel about that?
A
I love it.
E
Yeah. How do you feel about that?
D
About. About what? The two take thing? Yeah.
E
Yeah.
D
I mean, if they say they got
E
it, then, I mean, I'm always trying to, like, do like another take of the whole podcast.
D
Yeah.
A
I can't just get a clean one.
E
I like, I really like options. Yeah, but I hear you. But I could. But. But also, when you have it, you have it.
A
Well, that's it. They always. It always cuts.
E
Yeah.
A
There was a woman who we were working on that with who is like a pro. She was in a million and a half of them.
D
Yeah.
A
Couldn't remember her lines. And so our scripty was screaming her lines at her from underneath a table. She would just then repeat them. And then you watch the film and you're like, she's brilliant. She's the best person in the film.
D
Yeah. I mean, like, I often find that, like, even if I felt like I got every option in the moment that I wanted, I would see it, or I would leave that day and go, why didn't I try that?
B
Yeah.
D
Like, it's always gonna be. There's gonna be something else.
E
I'm sure I've said this, but what about the feeling of. I've said it. I imagine I've said this on Mike. The feeling of your cover. They do your coverage first, then they cover the person you're speaking to. And that's when you're.
D
I know.
E
Rushing.
A
Nothing worse.
E
It's off camera and you're just like. You're finding new, new things.
D
Yeah. Yeah. You're. You're actually crying if you needed to. It's all. It's all working.
A
I feel like that would be my thing if I was ever a big enough actor. Number one on the call sheet. Don't care. Number two on coverage every time.
E
Yes.
D
Number two. Yeah. If it goes back and forth. Sometimes I feel like I waste my good stuff on somebody else's, and I wish I could have gone first. I don't know. I think there's always gonna be that thing. Like, I wish I could have done it this way. I wish I could have done one more. I wish I could have. Whatever. But. But, yes. And you're in.
E
But entertainment is interesting.
D
Entertainment is interesting. Cause it's a distraction for us. So, you know, it's. It's. You know, it helps us look away from life. But you're also in this still new show, Ponies. Saw a little bit of that as well. And you're great in that.
A
Oh, hey, thanks so much. Appreciate it.
B
It.
A
It's like a spy. 70s spy thriller. I get to be a real bitch in a fun way.
D
Yeah. Yeah. Was it. It was fun. Was it fun to shoot?
A
It was the best. And we were in Hungary for six months, which was a blast. Yeah, it was a. Have you spent any time in Hungary?
D
No.
A
No, I never thought I would ever go. And I think my biggest takeaway is the food was incredible. I did not have a single bad meal the entire time I was there.
D
Really.
E
A iconic Hungarian cuisine.
A
They do a lot of soups. Like, there's just a lot of different kind of soups. And like, I think I, they just like locally source a lot of stuff. I think it's really expensive to import things. So, like a lot of the fruits and vegetables and it's. I, I mean, similar to a lot of different places, but like, you can't get like strawberries all times of the year.
C
Yeah, right.
A
You know, you just like get sort of like what's local and fresh and it just is like across the board. Like even like the quick, casual places we would go, I was like, oh, the touristy places. I was like, the food is good. All of it's good.
D
Gotta go to Hungary.
E
I gotta travel. I gotta, I gotta do something.
D
Well, we, we, we have young children, so we haven't been traveling. It's. It's hard. It's hard to get out of the house.
A
Yeah, they're gonna love it. Yeah, send them over, let them do some exploring.
E
That's a. Yeah, you got. You've traveled with your child quite a bit. I feel like I haven't.
D
Yeah, yeah, we've. We've gotten out there, we've been around.
A
Where's the craziest place you've gone?
D
With my son?
B
Yeah.
D
Philippines. Whoa.
A
How was that?
D
It was, it was great. We all got sick. Sick?
C
No, no, no.
D
Shade to the Philippines or the food, it's all great, but there is just a little bit of a different thing. You kind of get like a little bit of a bug.
B
Yeah.
D
You know, it's a different.
A
There's different stuff, different strains of anything that's going around.
D
Yeah, yeah. But it was amazing. He loved it. A lot of boats playing in the sand and seeing monitor lizards and some monkeys and he had a blast. It was great.
A
That's awesome.
C
Yeah.
F
Yeah.
D
I was like, I was doing a job there and I had a two week break in the middle.
C
Middle.
D
And I could either go home or they would pay for my family to come out and have a vacation. So we did that.
A
They paid for your family, your whole family to come out?
D
Yeah, my wife and my son. Yeah.
A
Still, that's awesome.
C
Great.
E
Yeah, that'd be cool if they truly brought out your entire extended.
D
Yeah, yeah. My dad, my brothers, their families. Yeah, we did everything.
E
So. Yeah.
D
Wait, what?
E
No, no, no. I was. What? I Wanted to talk about improv. We were talking about.
D
Oh, yeah, Kyle wants. It was like.
E
I feel like anytime I, like, try to talk about improv, it's like, always uninteresting. But to me, I'm always fascinated. We did improv together in college and I did, like, two levels of ucb, but I love watching improv and talking about it.
A
Was this at the same time as the sketch group? You were doing improv as well, or
E
sort of like, it was sort of a precursor? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
We did improv in. We did improv and sketch in college and then we did ucb. Yeah. And then we, like, formed our group afterwards.
E
We all met doing improv and sketch, I guess, together in. In school. Well, yeah. What was your. How did you get into it?
A
I really wanted to be, like, a very serious actor and I sort of found that through. I was friends with a lot of people in, like, the fashion community in Toronto. So I tried doing that and I was not good. I booked literally nothing other than some commercial, which is. It's kind of like a funny hierarchy thing because my friends were getting paid in clothes, but we're getting paid in clothes of, like, high fashion stuff. And I was in, like, a Monistat commercial and making actual money, but it was deeply embarrassing.
D
Right, right. And you started out in. In fashion as a model?
A
I mean, kind of. I certainly tried that. Just like, very quickly, like, moved itself over to commercial stuff. And then through there, I. I started doing. Doing, like, acting. Acting things. My life, it really was sort of like. Yeah, like a Hannah Montana thing in a weird way where I was like, doing comedy in la, but then I would fly up to Vancouver and was doing like, a lot of the, like, procedural, like, dead body victim, best friend of the woman who is secretly dating the cop. Like, a lot of, like, stuff like that. A lot of CW things, which was really, really fun. But it was like, very, very different. Very separated from, like, all the comedy stuff that I was doing down here year.
E
So was it. So what did you. You came up via UCB or were there other, like, schools or.
A
I very, like. I started doing improv. Doing, like, short form in Vancouver was like, really?
E
What's. What type of games are talking here?
A
Oh, man. A little bit of everything. World's worst classic, really.
E
Having a moment sounds like a song Having a moment. Did you say that?
A
Yes, in a huge way, which sort
E
of bums me out a little bit because, like, Like, I've. I started doing it like, a couple years ago with my friends, like our Friend John Darden. He has an improv show and I've done World's Worst there, but now it's like it's ubiquitous.
A
Everyone's doing it.
D
Everybody's doing it.
A
Everybody's doing it. The World's Worst sounds like a song. Piano torture. Oh yeah, a lot of stuff like that. Piano torture is like you start doing a scene and then the piano starts playing and then you have to immediately start singing. Whatever. Like you're in a musical, you're singing whatever you were saying and then as soon as the piano stops, you have to go back into of the scene.
B
Wow.
E
So sorry. So the idea is you're.
B
We're.
E
We're talking to each other.
A
The piano starts playing, then you have
E
to start singing and then you just sing your. Your.
A
You have to turn to the audience sing. And then as soon as the piano stops, you have to pretend like you weren't singing and go immediately back into the scene.
D
But you are singing. It's not just you're singing, talking, you are breaking into song. And it has to be.
E
Yeah, but it would. But is it not? Okay, sorry. So it would be like, like, hey, the.
C
Wow.
E
Yeah, man. Look at, look at this little plant right here. It's very green.
A
And then the piano stops playing and then you immediately go like, yeah, it's green and I love plants.
E
And that crushes.
A
Crushes.
E
Yeah.
A
Audience favorite.
D
Yeah, absolutely.
A
I. Right now it's like it's full circle. Cuz I'm touring with Dropout Improv, which is a. A short form show.
B
Oh sure.
A
So we're playing these like, you know, these like large theaters. Literally touring short form around, which is crazy.
D
Sure. That's rare. Like the short form is a rare. You know, it's. It's like, it's all. It feels like it's all long form, like shows.
A
Well, especially. I don't know what the vibe was at UCB when you guys were doing stuff over there, but it very much was like, like we don't talk about short form. We don't look at short form. Short form is a different and lesser art. And now it is very fun to be like. But it's fun. It's fun.
D
People like it.
A
People like it.
D
It's really fun to do.
E
Party quirks. You ever do that?
A
Party quirks? Yes.
E
Five. We had one called five Things.
A
What's that?
D
How do I remember.
E
I tried to describe this the other day. It was like you. You would. Somebody would leave the stage and then we would get. We would, we would get a Suggestion for like an activity, a celebrity and like a non geographical location.
A
Okay.
E
And we might have to do five of five, maybe five sets of those. But then, like, you would come back and we'd have to describe all those things via gibberish.
A
Whoa. That's fun, right?
E
So, like, if it's, like, if it's.
D
Oh, my God.
C
God.
B
Oh, man.
E
Beck hates when I talk about that.
D
No, no, I don't. It just, it makes me nervous. The short form made me really.
E
So, yes, if the activity.
D
I think I would have been better with long form. And when we did it a little bit, I was better with it. But like, the short form was just like, I don't know, it just, I couldn't, it, it made me uncomfortable.
E
I, I, I thought it was hilarious. But it'd be a yes. Like an activity would be like, whatever, vacuum. And you'd be like, and vacuuming. And everybody would go nuts. They would love it. But it'd be like. And then he'd be like, you're vacuuming with Oprah Winfrey or something like that.
A
Oh, fun. That is really fun. That is really fun, Beck. I'm sorry.
E
Gibberish. It's, it's like magic. Pretty impressive.
D
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If you could pick just like acting or improv, would you, Would you go? Would you pick one?
A
Oh, man, that's so hard.
D
It is hard.
A
I think it just depends on where I'm at.
D
Yeah.
A
You know what I mean? When I'm doing a lot of improv, I'm like, acting. That's what I want to be doing. And then the second that I'm on set for too long, I'm like, get me on stage.
D
It's nice to do both. They both, like, serve very different purposes.
C
Yeah.
A
Like being in Hungary, like, I, I wasn't on stage for six months and then immediately came into shooting this last season of vip, and it's like, it's, it consumed like all of my waking thoughts was just like, how do I, how do I get on stage? Do I fly to England? Maybe I can fly to England and I can get some stage time for a little bit. It just was like I, it was, I was sick.
D
Yeah, yeah. Now, I'm sorry, what you said vip.
A
Vip.
E
Very important.
A
Very important.
D
Oh, very. I was like, what is this new show that I don't know?
A
No, I'm really sorry. I'm throwing curveballs at you.
D
No, no, it's okay. It's okay. You know, you're, you're sharp, you're quick. I'm Catching up.
A
No, no, no. You guys are so sharp.
D
I will say the reason why. Kind of the reason why. Reason I said that is because you. You. I, like, the SLP thing, made me think of this. You have, like, such clear diction, really, and, like, you are able to talk so quickly and, like. Like, thinking, like, seeing your performance style, whether it's on very important people or in your acting work. Like, to me, the word that comes up is, like, clear. It's, like, clear and, like, sharp and, like, very, like, focused. Like, I cannot talk as fast as you.
C
You can.
D
And clearly it's. It's a. It's a real skill. And you. I feel like because of that, you. You play a lot of your characters with a lot of ease.
A
Oh, that's really kind. I. I hadn't thought of that before. I really appreciate that. I. Yeah, I. You know, I. What is it where they say, like,
D
talk fast, walk slow, and I haven't heard that.
F
What is.
D
What is that about? Is that an acting.
A
They say that in acting where. It was like, somebody told me that one time, and I really took it to heart. I also just think, like, my brain moves so fast that it is like, I. It does feel like sometimes I'm like, I just gotta get the thought out. And, like, the way I get the thought out is by communicating it as clearly as I can, which is, like, fitting all of the words in. And so as a kid especially, I was just, like. I just felt like I. Like, it was like a waterfall. I was like, I have to give you this information and I'm gonna lose you. So we gotta do it as fast as possible.
D
Yeah. And then my mind, it never feels like there's, like, an urgency, really. It just comes out pretty. Pretty effortlessly.
A
That's very.
D
I was just talking to somebody about this. Like, how do you get an idea out really quickly? It's like, you need to say it. If you have something that you need to say and you know what you're saying, then it comes out really quickly.
E
Is this just a life thing or, like, an acting thing?
D
I think we were talking about giving somebody direction. Like, we were. I. I don't. I don't know if I was talking to you about it, but I was talking to somebody about, like, how do you get somebody. Like, how do you get somebody like.
C
Or.
D
I don't even know what it was, but it was like, how do you talk quickly? It's like, you don't just talk quickly. You, like, have something important that you
A
need to have a place to go.
D
Yeah. That you really need to get out.
A
Yeah. I'm like, one of my favorite improv notes I've ever gotten. It's like, Alex Rooney talks about it a lot. Sean Disston talked about it a lot, too, which is just, like, clarity over cleverness. If people don't understand what you're setting up, if people don't understand what it is, it doesn't matter how exciting and fun and good and funny your idea would have been. If everybody on stage, in the audience doesn't understand where you're coming from, it doesn't matter. So it's like, I think setting that up as quickly and concisely as possible is the most important thing, especially in improv.
D
Absolutely.
B
What's the.
E
Okay, this is the most generic. This. This is a bad question.
A
No, Vicky, I refuse to believe it.
D
So sweet to us.
E
Yeah. And I don't want to. I feel bad spending time on the improv stuff, but, like, do you have. Are there any notable shows or things that have happened at live shows, either a suggestion or a scene that felt like, oh, that was weird, or up or crazy in some way or another?
A
Yeah, definitely. I'm like, I. I think the things. Sometimes I. I think people feel therapeutic, especially like, a. Have you guys done shows at all or done them recently where it's like. I feel like in LA especially, there's a lot of, like, we're getting a story from the audience and then doing improv off of that. Yes.
E
Yeah.
A
And I think people will sometimes use that suggestion time as a time to, like, be like, I. I need to tell somebody this. I need to, like, get this off
E
my chest, almost using it, like, therapy in some way.
B
Yeah.
A
And to be like. Especially now that, like, you know, we're really l. That, like, the way in which people know, especially a lot of the dropout folks, is like, we show up in the same feed is, like, the photos of their nieces and nephews and, like, their best friends, like, dog and stuff like that. So it creates, like, a type of relationship, I think, where people, like, think that we're, like, pals. You know what I mean? And it's, like, really lovely in a lot of ways, and it is, like, very respectful in a lot of ways. But then sometimes people, I think, will be like, I'm telling my friends about this thing that happened to me, and I'm like, oh, no. We have no context for life. And also, we're about to do 45 minutes of, like, comedy off of that.
E
So I feel like mostly just over sharing.
A
Yeah. And I feel like recently people have been getting into like traumatic deaths of loved ones, which is like, it's, you know, like again, and it's like, I'm so sorry that people went through that, but there's like not enough time to sort of be able to sit with somebody and be like, hey, I hear you and thank you for sharing that and coming out still. And also like we're going to take pieces of that, I guess, and like
E
turn into a really funny.
A
Turn into a hilarious.
E
Oh no, she passed on.
D
Oh, nobody ever liked her.
A
It's like nice being with a group. I feel like oftentimes there's like groups that can like, you, you know people well enough and we can sort of like pick around it. But then sometimes like at an ascat especially, you don't know the people you're up with as well. And it just is kind of like, okay, I guess we're making fun of your dead aunt's haircut.
D
Yeah.
E
And then, and then. Yes. How often do you get to talk to the person after the show and they're like, you did exactly what I was hoping for. Like how like probably not that much.
A
Almost never. Yeah. It's like. Cuz I think nobody's getting what they want out of that situation. You know what I mean? I think people have an idea of how they want something like that to go and then how it actually happens and you're actually sitting with it being like, either you didn't go in hard enough and like people really wanted you to like, you know, you know, put feet to the fire and it's just like, well, we were never going to do that. Or it's people take it in the opposite direction where it's like, oh, really? Skewer in things we did not think were going to come up or like, you know, it's a lose, lose.
D
Yeah.
E
Do you remember in college when like I used to go to improv shows
D
and give suggestions and when we would all go together, like. Yeah. To. To the opposing improv team that was started by people who.
E
Scotty Pimpin.
D
Yes, I do remember that you guys
A
were trying to sabotage the rival improv team.
E
I don't think it was actually an act of sabotage. I think it was like, I thought it was fun and then, and then like. And like the audience was responding. I didn't know. I think I was like young to a point that I didn't put it together. Like, oh yeah, this is sabotaging their show. And these are my friends on stage.
D
But, like, I think there was also some stuff of, like, our show. We had gotten in a group that was the longstanding improv and sketch group on campus. And our weekly improv show was at 1pm on a lawn in the middle of campus. So people are just, like, walking through, you know, like, it's sunny. We have to really project. If there's another. It's not an ideal venue. And this other group was started when people didn't get into. To the group that we got into, which is fine. They started a group and they got the space at a coffee shop. And it was like a 9pm show on a Friday prime slot. It was like a coffee shop in a dorm. So all these freshmen were like, oh, there's something to do on a Friday night. And these were packed houses. And I think there was a little bit of frustration.
E
You think jealousy?
D
A little jealousy or a little bit of, like, we're funny.
E
I'm sure you're right. But I do think that, like, I did genuinely think I was, like, not contributing, but, like, having fun or, like, lightening up the environment until, like, one day, however many shows deep. I've done this in a row. Like, let's say eight. Like, I see them meeting with, like, another improviser that's coaching them, like, you know, an established person from a theater in la. And like, I'm like, great show, guys. And they're like, clear. Really so bummed to see me.
D
Oh, man.
E
And I. Maybe I overheard, like, their. Their, like, coach say something like, I know you had to deal with the. The loud suggestions.
D
Oh, oh, oh, oh, right. I thought I was kind of doing the show with them.
E
Oh, I was, I guess. I'm sorry.
D
I guess it's not my show, it's your show.
E
But I don't think I did it again again after that.
A
Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it does take a moment to just sort of, like, have something to like, knock you into perspective a little bit.
E
And I want to apologize.
D
Let's apologize to.
E
I love all of those people. I loved all those shows.
B
Yeah.
A
I would like to apologize to second nature. I wasn't there, but I. The storytelling was vivid, and I feel like maybe I could have been.
B
Yeah.
E
But I had some good suggestions.
D
Yeah, you really did. Scottie Pippen was Falcon. That's a great one, Falcon.
A
And those are just earnest suggestions. It sounds like they were just loud.
E
It wasn't like, yeah, like, you know, do a little sword up there, like,
D
penis fart or something like that.
A
That would have been funny.
D
That would have Been hilarious. I wasn't going to go blue.
A
Yeah, right. Yeah. Give them something to work off of.
E
Yeah.
A
Okay. I actually think you were being constructive. I actually think maybe they should apologize to you.
D
Yeah, they.
B
Okay.
D
Yeah, we're waiting. Whenever you're ready. Okay.
A
You're being really clear and actually giving stuff for them to build off of.
E
Yeah, just, like, direction. Yeah. It was a good scene. But make sure you're establishing the who, what, where immediately.
D
That stuff was. That stuff was very helpful.
A
Yeah. I mean, a good note for everyone, I think, really.
D
Okay, well, that's. Yeah. Speaking of, like, shows and improv and stuff.
F
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
E
The reason you're here, Vic, besides the fact that we wanted to hang out and get to know you a little more, is we don't know what our podcast should be about.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
E
And so we're curious if you have a suggestion for what. For what you think it should be.
A
Okay, well, I got a couple. Do you want all of them or do you want one of them? Them.
E
I. I like. Personally, I like hearing the options.
D
Sure, let's do it.
E
As long as you're okay with that. We have a discussion of, like, kind of where we want to end up.
A
Of course, I'm not expecting you to take all of them, and I'm. I'm. I'm coming in just humbly, and I'm just really excited that you're willing to listen to any of them.
C
Great, Great.
A
Great first suggestion. New astrology.
D
New astrology.
E
New astrology.
A
So here's sort of my angle that I'm taking. It is like, I'm looking at markets that we can test tap.
E
Yeah.
A
I want people to listen because I think they'll start listening. They'll like what you have to say, and then they'll stay.
D
Okay.
A
And then maybe they'll sort of like, get to know you as personalities and things like that. So, like, I think astrology people really love listening and learning about astrology, and I think if you've got new things to add, new. New signs, new. New sort of like, things. So we're. New astrology. Old astrology is dead. We now.
E
We're not using anything.
A
We're not using any of it. We now have new stuff, and so new stuff you got to learn about through you guys.
D
Okay.
E
Okay, Great.
A
To talk about.
D
Fantastic.
A
You know the podcast serial.
D
Yes.
A
This is serial numbers.
D
This is serial numbers.
E
Okay.
A
1 through 10. Where are they now? What are they doing?
D
Great.
A
Where have they been? Where are they going?
D
Love that.
B
Great.
A
Maybe feuds. What's Going on with the 789 situation.
D
Right, right.
E
But we're sticking to the bracket of 1 through 10.
A
Yeah.
D
Yeah.
A
I think it just sort of maybe starts to lose itself a little bit once you get above that. So it's a limited series.
D
Great, great. Love that this is.
A
Aw. I think we're looking at this.
D
Awards.
A
We're looking for awards via our. Via serial numbers.
D
Okay, got it. Yeah.
A
Last.
E
Okay.
A
And this is one I'm pretty excited about, and I was kind of scared to give it to you guys, but I think it's the right fit.
D
Great.
A
Two boys stuck in the bottom of a well. Do a podcast.
C
Okay.
D
Okay, great. That's. Wow, that's exciting. Okay, I'm.
A
Keep in mind, if you don't want to do two boys, I will take two boys back. So it's like, again, no pressure, but that is one that I'm something pretty close to my heart.
D
I like two boys at the bottom of a well and new astrology. I get nervous about new astrology because I don't know a lot about old astrology.
A
Sure. I'd say ideal.
D
We could come with signs like, you know, if you're, like, it'd be like if you're born in December, you're a button and you always like to close things.
A
Yes. And then if you don't believe in it, it's just like, that's such a button thing to say.
D
Right, Right. That'll be hard to keep track of all the lore that we're developing.
E
That was very quick. Yeah. I, I love two boys at the bottom of the well. I, I, this is something I know, I'm sure that we will figure out during the course of the podcast, But
A
I like it because you could take it in a lot of different directions, I think. But I just think it would be really important to me that you stay true to this reality, which is which
D
I, I love that, but I do.
E
But, like, obviously there are more characters than just the two boys. Right. I want us all to get involved.
A
You could have a guest for sure. But again, it's sort of like, it's to your. To sort of what you. How you feel about it.
E
Okay.
D
You like two boys.
E
Yeah.
C
Okay.
D
I wasn't sure if you were saying if you were. If you were done. Because you said, I like two boys. But then. Yeah, no, I'm not. And I'm not coming at you. I just wasn't sure if you were gonna say something about one of the other ideas, but maybe it was clear you were picking two Boys.
E
No.
A
Okay, well, does she always yell at you like this?
D
I don't.
E
Okay, okay. No, these are all great ideas. Love new astrology. Love serial numbers.
D
Numbers. Yes, I do, too.
E
But boys in a. Well, I think you. It sound like you were excited about it.
A
And again, if you don't want it, I will take it back.
D
No, I want it. I want it. I do like the idea of getting new.
A
If you don't want it, I'll snatch that right back. I'll put it.
D
You're gonna do a podcast, too. Boy stuck at the bottom.
A
Well, now, seeing you guys so excited about it, I'm like, maybe that's my podcast.
D
Oh, yeah, well, you know, that's. And I. I think it is your ip. So we're trying it out here. But if you want to take it and start a new podcast and I,
E
I think let's put that on the record. We're not. We're taking no ownership over this concept.
A
Amazing.
D
This is a proof of concept, potentially for maybe for your podcast, maybe for my podcast.
A
We'll see.
D
Okay, great. Well, we will be right back. With two boys stuck at a bottom. At the bottom of a well.
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C
Hey, it's okay. It's stag quarters as because, you know,
D
we're stuck at the bottom of a well.
C
That's, you know, it's all good.
B
Wait, I didn't hear what you said.
C
You didn't hear what I said? I'm like. I'm like, Larry Larry. Larry Cram's like right in pretty close
B
to you, but say it one more time.
D
I say, as you know, we're. We're stuck in the bottom of a well.
B
But did you say tight quarters? Yeah.
E
Cuz, guess what?
C
What?
B
I found a quarter.
C
Oh, no way, dude.
D
Yeah, that's awesome. If.
C
Hey, if we weren't stuck at the bottom of the well, we could buy a little piece of candy or something.
B
Yeah, man, candy sounds real good.
C
Oh, man, I would love a Milky Way or Snickers or Oreos, Cheetos, pizza. Anything, Anything. Any kind of food, actually. Really?
B
Yeah. I don't think pizzas can. Candy.
C
Well, if you actually put candy on it, like, because like Pizza Hut used to make like a dessert pizza frosting apples on it.
B
I think my. I. I think my cousin Nikolai actually once got their pizza candy.
D
That's cool.
E
Hey, do you remember.
B
Do you remember?
C
I remember outside. Do I remember what? Sorry. Go ahead.
B
Do you remember when we used to have birthday parties?
C
Yeah, that was so cool.
B
All right, I want to invite you to mine next year.
C
I would love to come. You can come to mine next year if we're.
B
If we don't pass on.
C
Right? Because on account of being stuck at the bottom of the while and all.
B
Because I'm getting. Like I said, I'm getting real hungry and, you know, I've been dealing with this cough, so I'm ready to get out of here as soon as I can.
C
Yeah, well, we'll see. Let's see what happens. But I mean, we can't. We don't really have time to figure out how to get out of the well because we gotta do our show.
B
That's right. Are we rerolling this whole time?
C
Yeah. Sometimes I forget because it's like. Yeah, you know, sometimes I forget that we're out, that we have a show, because we're stuck at the bottom of a well. Two boys stuck in the bottom of a well.
D
That's what it's all about. You told us.
C
Two boys stuck in the bottom of a well.
D
That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle.
B
That's our names, actually.
C
I'm Stanley. Stanley. And you are my name.
B
My name is Des. My name is Destiny.
C
Wait, did you come up with a new name?
B
It's just Dustin, but I thought it would be. I thought I might get a crack out of you.
C
You know, I think. I think a cool name would be Dusty Destiny. But you can just go by Destiny if that's like your new name. If that's what you're going with.
B
I was just trying to have some fun with. For our listeners. Which are.
C
Which is this bug and that brick and that brick and that brick and somebody's water and goop and stuff.
B
Well, we got great show today. But first we're going to start.
C
I wonder if. I wonder when the water's going to come back. You know, the. Well maybe we could. If we could rise to the top with the water.
B
Yeah, that would be real fun and it could be. And if you had a surfboard.
C
I don't think the well is big enough to surf in.
B
Yeah, sorry about that.
C
It's all good. Just don't do it again.
B
So I guess it's time for our favorite part of the show.
C
Yeah, top welcome our guests.
B
Top five. Top five ideas. Top five ideas for getting outside of a well.
C
Well, that's the time it is.
B
Yeah, it's time for. For that. For that part of the show. Top five ideas for getting out of the well. First, first idea.
C
Waiting for the water to come and rising with the water.
B
Two sticky feet. If you get your feet real sticky, you can walk up the wall. Three sticks and stones can help your bones. If you get enough sticks and stones, you can climb up them like a
E
matter
C
trying to get the silk out. Silk, Spider silk is actually the strongest material. It's stronger than steel. It's very resilient and strong. If we get enough spider silk, we can make our own rope and throw it at the top of the well.
D
Get out.
B
And tall shoes. If we had taller shoes, we could just step over it.
C
A well. Well, now it's time to introduce our host for this episode.
B
Our host?
E
I mean, how guess you're talking about?
C
Sorry, I just haven't eaten in a long time. I'm kind of getting a little dizzy. But I meant to say our guest. It's time to introduce our guest this week.
B
She's up. She's way up there and.
E
She's got a lot to tell us
B
about what life is like on the outside. Please welcome.
A
Hey guys, it's Kelsey P. Kelsey P. I couldn't tell.
B
Sorry, I was gonna.
A
I thought. I know when I put my hair back like this, I kind to look like Kelsey S. But I'm doing that on purpose.
C
It was confusing.
B
Wait, you wanna look like Kelsey S.
A
Yeah, we're friends now. We sort of. Yeah, we were able to sort of squash it after cheer practice the other day, which was pretty cool. So now I get to be second on top of the pyramid.
B
That's Amazing. Hey, so, Kelsey, I gotta ask you. Are people still asking about us or.
C
Yeah. Which game is my update in New World?
A
Oh, my gosh. Dustin Stanley. Thanks so much for asking. Yeah, not so much anymore. I think it was, like, pretty top line news for a. It's so funny. Actually, your brother got second place in the soccer tournament.
B
Really?
F
Yeah.
A
Your parents have been pretty focused on that.
C
You were always the better soccer player.
B
Yeah, I taught the kid everything he knows.
C
Can you imagine what could you be doing if you always have not stuck in the bottom of a well?
A
Yeah. How are you guys doing down there?
C
Not good.
A
Yeah.
C
But we're trying to be good. We fool ourselves and trick ourselves to think that we're good sometimes so that it feels.
A
That's awesome. I've been thinking so much about sort of like being grateful for what you have.
C
Yeah.
A
And not the things that you don't have.
C
We practice gratitude. Gratitude. Get gratitude down here a lot.
A
I love that. So, like, for me, that looks like. You know, I don't know if, you know, we had the Annie Jr. Auditions and I was going out for Ms. Hannigan, but instead I got one of the orphans. And I was really bummed about that at first. And then I was like, it could be worse. I could have no solo. And I have one solo.
B
That's actually. Yeah, that's a good way of thinking about. About it. And when I think. When I try to. When I try to bring that sort of. That sort of.
A
Are you crying?
B
No, it just. No, the light is. Because we don't usually get one. Because you're up there. The light is hitting in a very specific way and it's just affecting the corner of my eye right here.
C
I don't know. It looks wet. It looks wet, but you got a little puddle in your eyes.
B
Just give me. Just give me one chance, please. It's all good. But what you're saying about just sort of finding the positivity, I've been trying to do that a lot lately because, as you know, we do not have bathrooms down here.
A
Whoa.
B
So. But we. But I have kept my clothes on.
C
I'm not.
B
I'm not comfortable with taking my clothes off in front. In front of my buddy over here.
C
I have taken my clothes off.
A
Yeah, I can see that.
C
I feel more. It's because it's like, what's the point of clothes? You know? It's not. We're not living in society. We're at the bottom of a well.
E
Rude.
B
So I have been going to the bathroom My clothes for about as long as we went down here, which, as you may know, as you know, has been about 162 days.
D
Yeah.
A
Yeah. 163.
C
Yeah.
A
Am I supposed to give you the thing that I brought now?
C
Yes. Yes, please.
A
So you guys said that I could bring something sort of to remind you of home, maybe something that could help you down there. So I brought something that I think you could really use, because I know you guys are pretty hungry.
C
Like a rope.
A
I brought your Spanish homework. Sort of like, feed your mind. Because my dad used to say, like, as soon as your mind starts going, then. Then you're in trouble. So he does crosswords. And for you guys, I brought your Spanish homework. You're failing a lot of your classes
C
from 163 days ago or from.
A
Like, people were, like, pretty understanding at first and were, like, pretty. Pretty accommodating at first, and then people just sort of, you know, life kind of went back to normal. You're getting a lot of absences.
C
So people are, like, mad at us for being absent from school.
A
I wouldn't say people are mad, but they're not impressed.
C
Are we in trouble?
A
I wouldn't say you're in trouble as much as, like, your parents are getting some notes. And I think, again, like, people just aren't thrilled.
C
Right. They should just maybe try to come get us.
A
Yeah, I think there was some talk of that at one point. I know they did bring a rope and a ladder, but it wasn't long enough.
C
Right. It was just too short.
A
Yeah. And so then there was talk of getting a fire station to sort of send over a truck from another department. And I think that they were, like. It was, like, in the middle of baseball season, and they were really into it, and then the Dodgers wonder. And so they all sort of were rounding up for that. And then I think it just kind of out of sight, out of mind.
B
Yeah, it's sad. It's just been tough because we really want to get out of here. But I gotta know, how's Brandon Santino doing?
A
Brandon Santino?
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Always cracked me up. He would do the. He'd do that pirate voice. The one where it's like a pirate who has a popcorn kernel stuck in his tooth.
A
Well, let me show you you this. Can you see?
B
Oh, my gosh.
C
Congratulations.
A
He gave me his mood ring. Yeah, we're going to Sadie Hawkins.
B
When is Sadie Hawkins?
A
It's next week. I asked him, and he said, okay, fine.
B
Has anyone. Anyone asked me if they want to come? Anyone want to Go to us.
A
Do you remember Daisy? Yes, I know Daisy. Yes. Daisy kept being like, oh, my God, I had such a crush on Dustin. Too bad he's in a well. And now she is dating Mark.
B
Mark, Mark, Mark Pulo.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Big Mark Petullo.
F
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
Big, big Mark.
A
He's really good. Apparently there's two baseball scouts coming from the Marlins to watch him play.
C
Oh, man, you are so good at baseball, too.
A
You were so good at soccer. You were so good at baseball. Mark keeps saying that.
B
Kind of.
C
Right.
A
Yeah. Cause you were. Yeah. Freshman in high school.
B
Yeah, yeah, sure I am.
A
Which makes sense. Some of us have hit puberty. Some of us haven't.
C
Right. Well, I think it's sort of like being in the well has prevented us from hitting puberty.
A
Puberty, huh? Do you think?
C
I think from a science perspective, it's like it's not allowing our bodies to grow.
A
Yeah. I'm seeing a lot of you without your clothes on right now, and that is seeming like maybe is the case.
C
Yeah, I have not grown hair anywhere.
A
Do you guys have any questions about the outside world?
B
Yes. Is there a New Avengers? Huh? Is there a New Avengers?
A
Not yet, but I think Doomsday is coming out this summer.
B
Can you take me to Doomsday? Can you take me to see the New Avengers?
A
Is there a chance of you getting out of the well?
B
I think you need. I think somebody need to help grab me and then take me to the movie theater.
A
Man, I wish, but I play rehearsal and cheer practice and we got the big game this weekend.
B
How long is it? It's playing for a while, probably. The movie's probably playing for a while.
A
Oh, man, I wish. I'm slammed.
B
You're not gonna take me to Avengers?
A
I wish if I could do it, I would and I'm slammed.
B
What about Mark Petuno?
A
He is. We sort of have a group going, so you're more than welcome. People are going. Well, you're more than welcome to join the group. We got pre sale tickets. I feel like we're going to the ipic.
B
Okay.
E
I would like to.
B
Would definitely like to come.
A
I hear you and I'm noting that. And for sure, if you are available, we would love to have you as a part of the group.
B
I've been stuck in the well for 163 days.
C
I feel like if, like everybody out there put their minds together, they could get us out of here.
A
Well, I feel like when those other two boys got stuck in the well, it just sort of became like, well, now everyone's in a well and we don't help.
C
There's two more boys.
A
Yes. Did you not hear about this?
C
I should know because we're stuck at the bottom of a well. I haven't heard about any kind of news or anything like that.
A
Yeah, yeah. Ethan and Dylan.
B
No way.
A
And unfortunately, they're just, like, a little bit cuter and a little bit more charming and a little bit younger, but they're still down. They're still down there, but people are working hard on getting them out.
B
So, I'm sorry, is it Doctor. Is it Doomsday? Because Doctor Doom is in it.
A
Yeah. Did you not. Oh, you wouldn't have seen First Steps?
B
No.
A
You might have seen First Steps. First Steps, the Fantastic Four movie.
B
Oh, no, I wasn't allowed to see it.
C
Wait, is it the one with.
B
Is it with Ian McDermott?
A
Huh?
C
Ian McDermott?
A
Is that. Who's in that?
C
Chris Evans?
A
I don't think so.
C
Chris Evans was in it.
A
Chris Evans. Oh, no, no, that was the one from a long, long time ago.
C
No, no, no, they made another one.
A
This one is Pedro Pascal.
C
Who the hell is that?
A
Pedro Pascal. Mandalorian.
C
That must have happened at least 163 days ago.
A
I think it was somewhere in there. But it's really fun because Robert Downey Jr. Is playing Dr. Doom.
B
Oh, my gosh. He was the one from Heart and Souls and the Chaplin movie.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the one from that one with Halle Berry. The scary one.
B
Swordfish.
A
No, the scary one.
C
Oh, Gothic.
A
Gothica. I was gonna say, wicked spooky. Yeah. So have you guys found religion down there?
E
Well, I. I've always believe. I've always believed that the.
B
The Lord will ultimately come and this. And perhaps he's punishing me for some bad things I've done.
A
Like what?
B
Well, I do masturbate. Okay.
A
Okay.
C
Hey, so do I.
A
In the.
C
Well, yes, of course. It's how we pass the time.
A
I'm sorry, Stanley.
E
By the way, I've kept my clothes
B
on the whole time, so I'm not doing.
C
I'm not doing the whole time.
A
Can I ask you a question I've always been so curious about?
C
Hey, shoot.
A
Because you kind of got an accent and the rest of your family does not have an accent. I always thought you were, like, born locally here.
C
No, I was born somewhere else.
A
Where?
C
They haven't told me yet.
A
They haven't told you yet?
C
No, they said you kind of. They called me an army brat.
A
They called. But your family is not a part of the army?
C
No.
A
But you're an army brat.
C
Yeah.
A
They're sending you around.
C
I was saying they were sending me around with other families.
A
I see.
C
Yeah. So I could get more of an experience to become more of, like, a worldly man.
A
Oh, that's really, really cool.
C
But. And. But then I got stuck here.
B
So basically, you're taking in my overalls. I got poo. I got pee pee. I got cum.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
But I didn't touch. But I don't take off my clothes. No, Siri, I'm waiting until I get taken out of this.
A
Well, that's really, really cool.
C
Thank you.
A
Yeah.
C
Thank you.
A
No, you're welcome. I'm saving myself for Sadie Hawkins dance.
C
Hey, maybe we'll get. Maybe we get out. Maybe we'll get out in time for Sadie Hawkins dance and we can all go together.
A
Yeah, maybe. You know, there's a whole group of us going, so, you know, we're kind of in. The limo's full, but we can try.
B
Well, you had orange juice recently.
A
Orange juice?
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, I poured out half of a carton for fun.
B
That's wasteful.
C
Do you think just pour it down here next time?
A
Oh, that's a really good idea. Oh, my gosh. I didn't even think to bring you guys food.
C
Honestly. Here's an idea. Why don't you get together with everybody
A
in the town, okay?
C
And you guys get all your table scraps and any of your gobs, you could just bring it over here and throw it down here and we can eat it. And anything we don't want to eat, well, it'll form a new layer below us, and then the layer will sort of slowly rise, a layer of trash. And then it'll bring us closer to the top, and then we'll also be able to eat at the same time.
A
That's such a good idea, but we're doing that already for the other two.
B
What about tall sneakers?
A
Huh?
B
Really tall sneakers.
A
So if we put them.
B
Sure. So if we put them on, we could just walk right over to.
A
Well, that would be a really good idea, but I can't stress enough most of the town's efforts and sort of what they're working on and focusing on is getting those other two out of the well, do you know they got stuck down there with a puppy? Oh, I know.
C
That's cute.
B
We got. We just got each other, I guess.
A
Yeah. And they can sing.
B
Really?
A
Those two can sing?
C
Oh, well, we can sing, too. 1, 2, 1, 2, 3. We are stuck at the bottom of the well, we believe that we don't
B
smell well, we're nice to our friends
C
and we always go, hey, we are okay.
A
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They got the other two out of the well. The messages came through. They got them out of the well.
C
Oh, that's great. Now they can focus on us. Now they can focus on us.
A
They're throwing a huge parade.
C
Bring everybody over here.
A
They're planning the parade. Okay, so what are they supposed to do? Not plan the parade? They got them out of the well. They've been stuck in there for 126 days. That's a really long time.
C
I feel like I've taken crazy pills. I figure I'm about to absolutely go crazy. We've been here longer. Please tell everybody to come and get us right now. Throw their garbage down here.
A
Please don't scream at me.
C
I'm sorry. I've just been stuck at the bottom of the world. I'm kind of.
A
I just, like. I took a lot of time out of my, like, very busy schedule right now to come and talk to you guys.
C
I decided to get a little frustrated.
B
Kelsey, again.
C
I feel like it's just like we're stuck at the bottom of this well.
A
Well, I feel like you haven't asked me anything about, like, what I'm. What I'm stuck in emotionally. I'm like. You guys keep being like, I'm stuck at the bottom of the well. I'm stuck at the bottom of a well. I'm like, I've got wells in my life, too.
C
I was trying to ask you about that, but then you said. Then you brought up the parade.
B
Well, tell.
E
Well, tell us what's going on.
C
How are you stuck? We're stuck at the bottom of the world.
B
Oh, my gosh. Marcy and. And Jason and. And James. Yeah, and Marcy and Jason. Jason's.
A
And Jane's. Jason. Jane's.
C
They're.
A
They're getting divorced.
B
I'm so sorry. They were always so nice. I remember going. I remember I would see them during pickup time.
A
Yeah. Well, my mom was. Was cheating on my dad with Mr. Bolstein.
B
Bolda Bolstein.
A
Yeah.
C
Wow.
B
How do you feel?
A
Yeah, it's been really hard.
B
Yeah.
A
Especially because I'm in his class right now, so it's, like, been, like, really, really tricky and really tough. And he keeps trying to, like, be nice to me and give me an A anyway, and I'm like, I don't want your A.
B
Right. It feels like that's not. That's almost like Cheating. It's like. Well, it's funny that he's cheating or was there cheating? It was cheating.
A
It was cheating.
B
And that almost feels like cheating on the screen. Yes.
A
You're so funny.
B
Oh, thank you. I've always, just always had like sort of a different way of thinking, I guess.
A
I see what Daisy sees in you. So she sees you saw in you again. You're in the well and she's with Mark now.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
Well, that's kind of. I feel like everything kind of comes back to that. It's all good. I just of kind.
B
I can't believe, but Robert Downey Jr. He was in the Utter Avengers.
A
I believe he was. He was Iron Man.
C
Iron Man.
A
You saw Iron Man?
C
I saw him.
B
Oh, yeah.
E
Yeah.
D
It was amazing.
B
I saw that with. I think I saw that with my.
E
With Adam. Flo.
A
Hey, I. I feel like I blew a gasket earlier and I'm gonna do something for you guys.
B
Oh, great.
A
I'm gonna come back with. You said you wanted some garbage.
C
Yes.
A
I'm gonna come back with a little bit of garbage for you.
C
Thank you so much.
A
You're welcome.
C
I'm sorry.
D
I feel like I blew gas.
C
Gasket.
A
No, that's okay. You know, it's like it's a high pressure, sort of low well situation.
B
I think you did blow the gas. Yeah.
C
I'm sorry. Yeah, this guy was talking about blue gas. Different kind of gas.
A
You're funny.
B
Thanks. I really, I. I really love to get down. I really, really like to go to that dance. I really like to see doomsday. I. I don't know if you heard. I'm very sick.
A
You're sick?
B
Yeah.
A
With what?
B
Well, I think it's just sort of the. The hygiene of. Of it all and sort of being stuck in this situation.
A
I can totally empathize. My aunt has ibs.
B
Really?
C
Yeah.
B
I believe it's affecting my lungs. And if you could bring us that garbage, I do think you're really sound special. Yeah, I was just thinking about. Right. I was just thinking about it a second ago. The garbage and it seems like such a good idea.
C
Okay.
A
After play rehearsal and then cheer and then the big game and then the parade, I'm going to bring you guys.
C
That sounds nice.
B
I always thought that you were nice.
A
Thank you. Thank you. I'm trying. I'm trying. I got. I got my confirmation coming up, so I'm like. I'm. I'm trying really hard. Yeah.
C
Yeah. Confirmation.
A
Yeah.
D
What else do.
B
I really wanted to ask you something.
C
Thank you. Thank you.
B
You said you have orange. You. You have had orange juice recently?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
It's still. It's. I remember it being sort of like orange. Yeah, well, it's like. It's sweet, but it's also like tangy a little bit. You still like that?
A
Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, somet.
C
About 163 days and orange juice is still the same.
E
What are the odds?
B
And what was the other. What was the chew. The thing we used to always chew all the time with the bubbles. Gum? Yes. How's that? Is that still good or.
A
You know, I'm not doing a lot of it because of the. I got braces.
C
Wow.
B
Shine a light on those. Maybe. Maybe they could find us because it bounced off the braces. I don't know.
C
It's a fucking stupid People always trying to come up with ideas to get out of the way.
A
It looks like it's going to rain though, so the sun's not really out.
B
Okay. Sorry about that. So gum still you don't do. You're not doing it.
A
Not doing it, but, you know, it's. It's still there.
B
What?
C
That's great. Well. Well, I think we're. I think we're actually running out. Even though we have nowhere to go and nothing to do.
B
I might take it.
A
When is this coming out? I have things I wanted to plug.
B
Oh, what? No go?
E
Yeah, no.
C
Let us know what you want. Go ahead. It's coming out. It's coming out. It's going to come.
A
Okay, Great.
B
Yeah.
A
Annie Jr. Is gonna be in the auditorium on May 15th. So you definitely wanna come that. I'm in the B cast. So you're for sure gonna wanna make sure that you're gonna take it to the afternoon show.
C
I wish I could.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, I'll record it.
C
Oh, thank you.
A
I'll record it.
C
Yes.
A
Maybe getting you guys a little ham radio.
C
Ew. That would be delicious.
A
Okay.
C
Two bears, one stone.
A
And then the big game is coming up, so make sure you catch that and then for sure catch me at the parade. I'm gonna be doing.
D
We'd love to catch you in the.
B
We really thought you were gonna save us today. We would love to make it to some of those. Obviously we will.
A
I'm so sorry. You said bring something and I was like, oh, man, I love the Spanish homer. You guys are gonna be so excited. And you seem kind of sad.
C
No, I can't wait to do a Spanish homework. No, it's not really sad.
B
It's a lonely thing.
C
Yeah.
B
You know, but these shows sound great and I really wish I could. And I'm sort of imagining what it'll be like and sitting back there and being like, yeah, go, Kelsey.
C
So happy for you and everything that's going on in your life and how you're growing up and becoming a real.
A
Okay, you gotta put some pants on, man.
B
I can't have a glass of orange juice for me and say hello to.
C
Say hello to everybody.
B
Say sorry to your parents, I guess.
A
Hey, thank you. If I pour some down the drain, will it get to you?
C
I don't think so.
A
Okay.
C
I did. Not in its pure form.
A
Sure.
C
But it's okay.
A
Okay, well, hey, maybe I'll come back with some garbage and maybe some of that garbage will be a little bit of orange juice.
C
Take it.
B
All right, we'll see ya.
C
All right. Thanks for coming.
F
Bye.
A
Oh, sorry, did you say something? I was walking away and then you started talking again.
C
Oh, no, sorry.
B
Okay, well, I was just saying make sure to. Can you lower the bucket just a bit?
A
Oh, sure. There's nothing in it.
B
Okay.
A
Okay.
C
All right.
A
And. Okay, bye.
C
Thanks for listening.
A
What?
C
Thanks for listening.
A
Okay, bye.
C
See you, everybody.
B
Do you actually listen to the show? Do you actually listen to the show?
A
Sometimes me and Daisy will come and sit near the well while you're talking.
B
No way. Okay.
C
They could have.
A
Okay, so bye.
C
See you.
B
Have a good one. Wow. She. I've always loved Kelsey P. Yeah, I
C
love Kelsey P. It'd be nice if she would help us get out of the well, brush some food, something like that.
B
Well, as she said, you know, you gotta find a positive in life. And to me, just being with you has actually been. It's been something. It's been something really nice because I always kind of felt like an outcast at school.
C
Yeah, me too. Sometimes I feel a little bit more at home at the bottom of a well. I think.
B
Is it funny that I'm not even sure that I want to be saved?
C
It's not funny at all. I feel the same way sometime.
B
Thanks for listening. See you next time.
D
Oh, wow. Two boys at the bottom.
A
I'm gonna let you have it. I really am.
D
Thank you.
A
I think it's nice.
B
Thank you.
D
Well, we'll bring it back.
E
I loved it. I mean, like, we were just. We were saying off mic, like, you know, like, it's like when somebody. You're given this beautiful little gift, what can you make of it? You know, I'm always going to be like, could I have done better? You know what I'm you know what I mean?
D
Always. I'm sure you could have, but yeah,
E
I mean, there were moments that. That I felt great about what I was doing and there were moments I was like, I couldn't have done better than that.
A
I'd listen to it. I'd listen to it as a casual listener.
D
Great. Okay, we got 20 minutes. We'll, you know, we'll see what happens. Let us know what you guys think about what's two boys stuck at the bottom.
E
So we got very important people. Any. Is there anything else you want to plug talk about?
A
Yeah, the only thing I really want to plug is like, I'm very online by nature of this clip or this podcast. You're going to end up getting fed me at some point in your algorithm. There's a lot of really terrible anti trans bills happening across the country. There's a lot of local organizations that I really love. Zebra Youth out of Orlando, Lost and Found out of Atlanta. Highly recommend. But truly, even if you're in a safe state that any, any organization locally to. You can definitely use your money or time or resources or just signal boost, follow them on social media and Transgender Law center is a really good sort of like, national organization.
D
Great. Thank you so much for bringing that up. It's. It's very important to talk about and please contribute.
E
Wow, Vic, this has truly been an incredible day. Thank you.
D
Absolute blast fun.
A
You didn't want a blast.
D
It was a blast.
B
This is great.
D
Yeah, I guess, you know, I. I will see you next time on the Batcave. Yeah, Kyle says that sometimes.
E
Yeah, we'll see you next time on the Bat.
A
On the Batcave in the bat cave.
D
Where does that come from?
E
I think it's something stupid that probably like a podcaster would say.
A
Yeah, it does kind of feel Roganesque. Like the Mothership or whatever. Like, we'll catch you in the mothership.
D
Catch you in the mothership. Yeah, maybe we'll say that. See you at the mothership.
E
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Woo hoo.
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Woo.
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Jeff.
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I noticed that every. Every so often with guests like. Like Spike Jones. I think let's commit to Jackass the Podcast.
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What was it going to be called?
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The Jackass Podcast.
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Jackass Podcast.
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Without you, the IQ drops significantly.
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Steve O. There's a strong chance that were it
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Yeah.
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E
The whole bar just stopped and wanted
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That's right.
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Are we gonna cry? Yes, a little bit. Are we gonna laugh a lot?
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A whole lot.
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Episode: Vic Michaelis
Date: July 8, 2026
Host: Headgum
Guest: Vic Michaelis
This episode features comedian and improviser Vic Michaelis as Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney continue their quest to figure out what their podcast should be about. The episode blends trademark Beck and Kyle goofiness with deeper discussions about creativity, the craft of improv, show business, and personal journeys, culminating in a hilarious proof-of-concept improvised segment based on Vic's pitch, “Two Boys Stuck at the Bottom of a Well.”
Vic proposes three possible show concepts for Beck and Kyle:
- (76:17) Vic: “Old astrology is dead. We now have new stuff, and you gotta learn about it from you guys.”
- (77:06) “Two Boys Stuck at the Bottom of a Well: Do a podcast.”
Starts ~[80:50]
Beck and Kyle play two trapped boys, Stanley and Dest(iny), riffing on hunger, childhood, and loneliness, while awaiting rescue.
Vic guest stars from "above" as Kelsey P., the nonchalant neighbor who brings homework instead of a rope, and gives an update on the outside world and the ongoing neglect of the boys’ plight.
The segment is bittersweet and hilarious, satirizing both childhood misadventures and emotional neglect with warmth and absurdity.
Running gags: Stanley is naked, Dest(iny) refuses to remove his clothes, the only updates from “above” are about school and orange juice, and no one is trying that hard to save them.
Touching/absurd moment: “Is it funny that I’m not even sure I want to be saved? — It’s not funny at all. I feel the same way sometimes.” ([105:12])
Vic closes by championing support for trans-inclusive charities and organizations, naming Zebra Youth (Orlando), Lost and Found (Atlanta), and the Transgender Law Center, and encourages listeners to use their time, resources, or even just social media presence to support local causes.
This episode delivers an engaging mix of meta-comedy, honest discussion about creativity and self-confidence, and a standout improvisational performance. The journey from podcast identity crisis to a fully-rendered narrative improv bit with their guest showcases the unique energy and warmth that Beck, Kyle, and Vic bring together. Fans of improv, alternative comedy, and showbiz tales will find this episode especially rewarding.
For a full rundown, including more sketches, bonus content, or to support the show, check out their Patreon or listen at Headgum.
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