Zach Cherry

Summary

What's Our Podcast? with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney – Zach Cherry (December 10, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this episode of "What's Our Podcast?" Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney welcome actor and comedian Zach Cherry (Severance, Crashing) for a meandering, deeply silly, and surprisingly reflective conversation. As always, the not-quite premise of the podcast is that Beck and Kyle don’t actually know what their podcast should be about, so they ask each guest for suggestions—this time, with Zach offering a meta twist: an after-show recap of their own podcast. The episode riffs on everything from Broadway characters and baseball obsessions to the existential benefits of “the bag experience,” offering comedians-at-heart-level insight, irreverence, and unexpected sincerity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Recurring Bits

Timestamps: 01:01 – 14:00

• Beck’s Alter Egos: Beck opens the show with bits about “Beck Broadway” and “Beck Delicious,” playing with personas to Kyle’s confusion and amusement.
  • Memorable Quote:
    • Beck: “I’ve always been Beck Broadway. I just kind of, you know, kept it under my hat a little bit. And I’m just kind of letting my… letting the real me come out.” (01:22)
• Pocket Gags:
  • Kyle riffs on Beck pulling “old candy bars” and “string beans” out of his pockets, setting the tone for visual and auditory goofiness.
• Niche Obsessions:
  • The hosts discuss their respective approaches to interests and knowledge: Kyle’s encyclopedic retention of music/baseball facts contrasted with Beck’s more pragmatic, “useful only” learning style.
    • Beck: “You’ve always had more of a natural interest in consuming that information ... I just haven’t really.” (07:16)

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2. Hobbies, Obsessions, and the ‘Immaculate Grid’

Timestamps: 08:46 – 10:39

• Kyle admits to obsession over the baseball stats game “Immaculate Grid,” even at the expense of parenting duties.
  • “I gotta wake up with my daughter and make sure she’s fed breakfast. But I’m like, who played for the Detroit Tigers and the Philadelphia Phillies?” (09:19)
• Beck opens up about wanting hobbies outside of career or personal betterment:
  • “For the first time ... I do want to educate myself more on the topics that interest me ... that are just for me and aren’t making me a better parent or … comedian.” (08:12)
• Both reflect on the push-pull of creative ambition versus leisure, and the challenge of letting go.

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3. Podcast Process and Meta Reflections

Timestamps: 13:14 – 15:56

• The duo discuss podcast structure, intro bits, and whether the guest should be brought in earlier or even sit silently “with a bag over their head” (exaggerated for comic effect).
  • Beck: “I was thinking… maybe we put a bag over their head or something.” (16:04)
• They welcome new team member Rachelle and say goodbye to previous team member Casey.

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4. Welcoming Zach Cherry – Comedy, Careers, and ‘Grinding’

Timestamps: 25:02 – 34:05

• Zach arrives and the trio discuss busyness, life milestones, and the fantasy of retirement (unstructured leisure, video games, reading).
  • Zach: “My ultimate goal is to just be retired…” (26:44)
• Reflecting on the creative “grind,” all agree it never fully leaves, even with success.

Notable Quotes

• Zach: “Honestly, to me, it has basically always felt the same because I kind of don’t ask a lot of questions. I just do the things that show up to me and then hope that more things get to happen.” (29:39)
• Beck: “We’re grinding right here. This is us grinding.” (29:53)

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5. Early Comedy Days, Sketch Groups, and ‘Serial’ Parodies

Timestamps: 30:06 – 34:50

• Zach recounts his early days with UCB and his sketch group (with SNL’s Will Stephen), including a “Serial” podcast parody in 2015.
• The hosts confuse “Serial” (the podcast) with cereal (the breakfast food), exemplifying the show’s layered, self-referential humor.

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6. Birds, Bodegas & Breakfast Sandwiches

Timestamps: 35:40 – 45:13

• Conversation derails (intentionally) into birds—vultures, condors, and parrots—then morphs into a back-and-forth about NYC bodega sandwiches.
• Kyle: “Those the big birds? Like vultures? Condors. They are crazy looking.” (35:40)
• Zach: “Just a bacon, egg and cheese. Classic.” (43:40)

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7. Podcast Structure: The Great ‘Bag-on-the-Head’ Debate

Timestamps: 45:33 – 55:14

• Beck proposes (jokingly) that guests watch the intro with a bag over their head. Zach, as a self-proclaimed “semi-professional podcast guest,” confirms that waiting silently as a guest is the worst part of podcasting.
  • Zach: “The absolute worst part of every podcast is the part where you just sit there waiting to be introduced, talk and you don’t say anything.” (46:59)
• They then amplify the bit, culminating in Zach (later in the episode) actually sitting silently with a bag on his head for the “recap” experiment.

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8. Meta-Suggestion: The What’s Our Podcast Recap Podcast

Timestamps: 52:54 – 57:14

• Zach’s pitch: The show should become a “What’s Our Podcast Recap Podcast,” reviewing their own prior episodes for listeners who haven’t (or won’t) listen to them all.
  • “I think it’s time for you to do a what’s Our Podcast Recap Podcast ... go through all the episodes of what’s Our Podcast, you recap them for the fans and for fans like me... For the behind the scenes, what your mood was like on each day…” (53:39)
• Discussion of structure: Would this include feelings, best and worst moments, and which bits to keep or cut (with recurring anxiety over the “bird segment”).

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9. Recap within the Episode: Bags on Heads, Community Nicknames, and More

Timestamps: 62:15 – 90:00+

• The hosts perform the “recap” format, this time with Zach wearing an actual bag over his head, narrating how meditative and freeing (and not that weird) it feels.
  • Zach: “You know what it felt like? …it felt like, you know, when you have a chance to just kind of be alone with your phone and scroll a little bit and it feels like a nice kind of ‘you time.’ It felt like that without having to interface with technology.” (69:40)
• They invent fanbase names (“Roccos” and “Rockettes,” with “Bagheads” as another option for the bag devotees).
  • Zach: “I have a feeling that there will be a community of listeners that develops that I’m going to refer to as the Bagheads, who will probably put a bag on their head to listen to the show going forward.” (78:47)
• The gang reviews prior guests, debating which ones would be okay having a bag on their head. It’s all deeply tongue-in-cheek, but reveals group chemistry and ongoing inside jokes.

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10. ‘Kyle’s Birds’ Potential Segment

Timestamps: 92:13 – End

• Zach and Beck encourage Kyle to pursue “Kyle’s Birds,” a regular segment where Kyle talks about interesting birds—especially with upcoming guest Tony Hawk (“the Birdman”).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Recap Format:

  • Zach: “As fans, we want to know ... maybe Birds was cut from another episode ... I want to hear these behind the scenes. I want to hear what your mood was like on each day.” (54:05)

• On the Bag Experience:

  • Zach: “It felt like a little meditative … I would check in a little bit, but … there were moments I wasn’t even in this room ... I like, it felt like the way people talk about, like, a peyote trip.” (69:55)
  • Beck: “It’d be so nice to be like, I’m not having fun in this moment. Excuse me. I need to go bag myself.” (94:40)

• On Podcasting & Comedy:

  • Beck: “There’s nothing brilliant about podcasts.” (52:28)
  • Kyle: “Are you a fan of birds?” (93:13)

• On Birds:

  • Beck: “Birds are so cool and they all make different sounds. My dad’s a little bit of a bird guy.” (87:59)
  • Zach: “But the birds, I feel like, is something that was the first moment I felt like we truly, truly, truly connected on.” (89:15)
  • Kyle: “Sometimes I see ... a big old hawk or an eagle? That is like, oh gosh.” (89:46–89:51)

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Important Segments with Timestamps

• Opening characters/personas: 01:13 – 04:08
• Kyle on baseball obsession: 08:52 – 09:59
• Podcast structure & ‘the bag’ idea emerges: 16:04 – 16:49
• Welcoming Zach Cherry & retirement/grind life: 25:02 – 29:53
• ‘Serial’ parody & ‘cereal’ confusion: 30:34 – 31:37
• Bird riffing: 35:40 – 36:05, revisited 85:04 – 88:19
• Recap podcast pitch: 53:28 – 54:38
• Meta-recap segment (with bag on Zach's head): 62:15 – 72:05
• Bag experience reflection: 69:40 – 72:03
• Fanbase names (‘Roccos’, ‘Rockettes’, ‘Bagheads’): 78:28 – 79:18
• Birds & LA parrots: 88:26 – 88:44
• Future ‘Kyle’s Birds’ segment promise: 92:13 – 93:35

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Flow and Tone

The episode is true to Beck and Kyle’s comedic roots—playful, anarchic, deadpan, and self-effacing. Zach Cherry fits perfectly, seamlessly riffing and gently deepening the conversation. The conversational tangents (e.g., bird talk, breakfast sandwiches, bag-on-the-head experiments) serve as both running gags and commentary on modern podcasting’s meta nature. There’s abundant warmth; the trio is unafraid to tease, self-deprecate, and endorse embracing “nonsense” as community-building.

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To Summarize for New Listeners

This episode is both a lampoon of and a love letter to podcasting. It’s about nothing and, in the process, about everything that obsesses, distracts, and amuses creative people. You’ll get whimsical insights about Broadway, birds, breakfast sandwiches, and what it means to be “bagged”—but more importantly, you’ll (probably) want to start calling yourself a Rocko, Rockette, or Baghead.

Best for fans of:
Self-referential comedy, meta-podcasts, inside jokes, and comedians finding joy in the absurdity of the creative grind.

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Final Community Shout-Out

• Zach: “Shout out to my Rockettes out there. ... If you could let them know you’re a Rockette, I would love that.” (95:45 – 97:12)
• Kyle: "If you're out there ... go ahead, throw a bag on right now. Send us photos. We'd Love to see you. Definitely not plastic. No plastic bags. I want to go on the record saying, cause people could suffocate." (79:03 – 79:24)

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Next week: Tony Hawk is on; expect “Kyle’s Birds” to finally take flight!

Transcript

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What'S our podcast? What's it gonna be all about? Tell us. What's our podcast? What should we talk about with Beck and Kyle?

[A]

Are we going?

Welcome back, Rockos. Kyle Mooney here.

[C]

Beck Bennett over here. How's it going?

[A]

And you're watching and listening to. Wait. Something seems different about you.

[C]

What are you talking about? It's the same old B.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Are you sure it's not Beck Broadway?

[C]

Well, yeah, I've always been back Broadway. I just kind of, you know, kept it under. Kept it under my hat a little bit. And I'm just kind of letting my. Letting the real. Letting the real me come out.

[A]

I don't like it anymore.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

No, Broadway was a bad.

[C]

Oh yeah, Broadway. That wasn't really Broadway. You kind of ruined the whole glasses thing. I was doing a fun bad guy kind of tough guy.

[A]

Can we try it again?

[C]

I don't know if it's really gonna work.

[A]

Come on, let me come up. Try to come up with a different lesson.

Rolling, guys.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

What's up, everybody?

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I'm Kyle Mooney.

[C]

I'm Beck Bennett.

[A]

And you are watching and listening to what's our Podcast.

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The podcast where we bring on a guest to help us figure out what.

[A]

Our podcast should be about.

[C]

That's right back.

[A]

Wait, what?

[F]

That's not Beck Bennett.

[A]

That's Becky.

Delicious.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes I just kind of. It's a different side of me, that's all. It's still the. It's still the same Beck you've always Known. I'm just letting this guy out. And yes, you're right. It's Beck. Delicious.

Okay, that. We nailed that. For the people who aren't watching, I started with my sunglasses on. I pulled them out of my pocket, which is something I've never done.

[A]

I'm just like. And, like, all of a sudden, Kyle.

[C]

Did not expect that. He didn't see that coming out.

[A]

I have this visual of, like, Beck, like, you know, he's pulling all sorts of stuff out of his pocket. Oh, look, there's an old candy bar.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or old string beans. Oh, look, a screwdriver. A string bean.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then the glasses, the sunglasses come out, and he's like, hey, who do I look like? And then all of a sudden, we're in, like, Hawaii or somewhere. Somewhere remote.

[C]

Well, you said Broadway at first.

[A]

Yeah, that was a mistake.

[C]

And that's okay. And we'll sit in our mistakes and live with it.

[A]

And how would Beck. Broadway, sort of.

Interact with the world.

[C]

A little bit more like this.

[A]

And. Ladies and gentlemen, my Friend is canceled.

[C]

No, no, no.

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Broadway.

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It's big. You have to play to the back of the house. Are you kidding me? I'm a musical theater boy. Yeah.

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Yes.

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Loud. Big. Big. Out. Out, out. What are you talking about?

[A]

Your voice sounds different, man.

[C]

Look, it's. If you're singing, you're about to break into song. You have to.

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Yeah, man.

[C]

No, it's okay. Everybody knows that's Broadway.

[A]

Well, now you're now the voice become more subtle again.

[C]

Broadway.

You have to sit. It's singing. What? I don't understand. It's totally fine. I feel fine about my Broadway choice. Yeah, look, if. Look, I love Broadway. I always hit up Broadway.

[F]

Kyle.

[C]

Kyle didn't really grow up in Broadway.

[A]

I didn't. I like it now, but I'm actually wearing a shirt. A Broadway shirt.

[C]

Yeah, it's a rock band. A rock band Broadway shirt.

[A]

It's a. The. Who's Tommy on Broadway?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They have a rock opera called Tommy. And then it became a Broadway show and a touring show.

[C]

Your depth of. The depth of knowledge you have for music, it just astounds me to this day. I don't even know how you. How you have room for it in that little noggin of yours. Actually, turns out it's pretty big.

[A]

It's true. I am stupid.

[C]

But I do.

[A]

I have, like, these weird factoids.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't even have that. I can't retain anything. I. I went to the doctor about it.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. And they said no. You don't have any room. Yeah.

[A]

And what is in there? Just sort of like, got to get my coffee.

[C]

Yeah. Coffee. Substances. Yeah. Feelings.

[A]

What, do you. You know this. Because this is a good chance for me to get to know you a little better.

[C]

Nope, nope, nope, nope. Don't ask me what you're about to ask me.

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I want to know when it's not erected and when it's.

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Now. I'm not going to tell. That's for me. That's for me. That's for Just. Just for me.

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Okay.

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You want to know when my penis is erected.

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I want to know what time of day it gets erected.

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Okay.

Okay. I don't know.

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You don't pay attention?

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Well, I mean, I don't pay attention to the time necessarily. Okay.

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Cause I know all the times, you know.

[C]

Okay. What are the times that you get erected?

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5:48 this morning. What time is it right now?

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10:57.

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10:56, I guess. And it's still going.

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Wow, that's incredible. You're hard right now.

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Yes. I loved.

Just what.

[C]

My Broadway thing.

[A]

The Broadway thing. And then I don't know if our viewers saw it, but when we did.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Beck, Broadway and back. Delicious.

[C]

Beck. Delicious. Yeah. That turned you on?

[A]

I don't know. Sorry.

[C]

I don't even know what we're talking.

[B]

Wait.

[A]

But I did have a sincere question for you.

[C]

Okay. When I was talking about I can't retain anything in my brain.

[A]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I do. I do hold a lot of factoids in my head. I think that's probably true. Or, like, I kind of have specific niche interests.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And that ranges from, let's say, baseball stats to. Yeah.

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Film, music.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. That sort of stuff.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you think? Is there anything you think that, like, okay, I know a decent amount about this subject or I can pull.

Not even, like, I don't know, Dean or something.

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No, I mean, yeah, I guess so.

Acting, a little bit of theater, a little bit of comedy stuff.

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Yeah.

[C]

Cooking, some music, some films. Cooking.

[A]

Yeah. Restaurants.

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Yeah, sure. Yeah. But I don't think I've ever really, like. You've always had more of a natural, like, interest in consuming that information, and.

I guess I just haven't really.

[A]

You don't have to.

[C]

No. But it is something that I find in my life right now that I feel like I'm missing for the first time in the past, like, couple years where I do want to, like, educate myself more on the topics that interest me. I think that. And I think that that's. It's a. It's a great strength to have those hobbies and those interests that you develop outside of any. Any need for applying them. You know what I mean? Like, I think the way that my brain works is often, like. Is either, like, trying to learn something that I can apply to make my life better or, like, career better. Like, I think there's a little feeling of, like, for me, if I'm. If I'm. If I'm, like, getting interested in something, there's a little bit of, like, oh, you could be doing something that makes you better.

[A]

It's a practice. It's a practical application.

[C]

Yes. And so I think. And now at this point in my life, I'm kind of like, oh, I really am missing that thing. Developing those interests that are just for me and aren't, like, making me. Aren't making my house better or making my, like, me a better parent or.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Making me a better actor or comedian or whatever that is. Or, you know, creating opportunities for myself. I think for a while, it's been a lot of, like, you know, that. That fear or that desire to be better.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

At those things. And now I'm kind of like, I'm. I don't need to spend all my time.

[A]

I've grown a little bit.

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Like.

[C]

Yeah.

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Yeah.

[A]

I think that makes sense. I will say the reverse of it is like.

I am. So I do become obsessive about stuff. And, like, for instance, in the last couple years, I've gotten really into baseball, and I play a game with my friends, some of my friends.

Daily, even though now we're taking a break because the baseball season ended and it's all. It's a game. It's a game on the phone called the Immaculate Grid. And it's all dedicated to stats and teams and stuff like that. And I'm so. I'm constantly researching, right. Like, who did Bobby Gritch play for? Like, a player I had never heard of until, for some reason, I opened them up in a pack of baseball cards. But the issue is, is that, like, now that is one of the first things I think of when I wake up in the morning. Do you know what I'm saying? So, like, it's sort of. It's the exact opposite of what it can get in. In my. It can get in the way of my life in the sense that, like, I gotta wake up with my daughter and make sure she's fed breakfast. But I'm like, who played for the Detroit Tigers and the Philadelphia Phillies or something like that. Like, I'm thinking About that, you know, when, like, it's. It really shouldn't. It has too much impact on. Or has maybe has a little more impact on my day than it should.

[C]

Sure. Well, it seems like maybe we're in different. Different positions.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I want to do more of that and you want to maybe pull.

[A]

Back a little bit at times.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it is. It does call me.

[A]

It does. Like, I do. Being into things like. Yeah, it's important after a stressful day or something like that. Oh, now I can kick back and just, like, I like what I do. Like, I'm not good at watching. I used to be very good at consuming movies like, I would like, but now, like, it's like, if I'm relaxing, I'm like, just watching a Billy Joel concert from, like, 1988 on YouTube. Like, that's like, kind of what I do to. So these sort of things just calm me down.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. That's great. That's rad. I mean, like, even with sports, though, I'm like. Like, I feel like you've heard me say I want to get more into sports and like, even just being like, oh, on Sunday, which is not, you know, we're. It's family time. It's like, even setting aside, like, four hours to watch a football game when, like, I could be doing something with my son or even helping clean up the house or do you know, there's like, breaking into something that takes me away from something that's important. It's like. It's hard to do at first. I feel like I just started watching football again and getting back into the Bears, which I grew up watching and loving. But, yeah, it does take up time and. Yeah, I just.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

[C]

Yeah. No, there's a part of me that has trouble letting go of that when all I really want is more time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

To do the things.

[A]

Well, it makes me think of what something a friend of mine said. Do you know Back Delicious?

[C]

Yeah, I know Back Delicious.

[A]

I think he once said.

You just gotta. I don't know.

[C]

Oh, Kyle fell apart.

[A]

I don't know. I actually don't know what Beck Delicious is. Vibe.

[C]

Well, he has said I'm hard all the time.

[A]

Okay. That was one of the things he.

Are we sure he said that?

[C]

I'm pretty sure he said. I'm pretty sure he said.

I think it was like, I'm not. Nothing's hard when you're hard all the time.

Life isn't that hard when you're hard all the time.

[A]

I think Beck Delicious said. I think he said that today.

[C]

I think he said today. Life isn't that hard when you're hard all the time.

[A]

Oh, okay.

Well, Rachelle is here.

[C]

Yes, Rachelle is here. Richelle was. Is new to the what's Our Podcast team.

[A]

She was previously part of other teams.

[C]

Yes. And now she's a part of our team. The Kevin Nealon episode was our first one here. We'd like to welcome you officially to our audience.

[A]

Let's give. Let's give. Let's give Rachelle a Rocco welcome.

[C]

And we. Casey is not here anymore. We miss him, and we love him.

[A]

You can't take away from what Casey helped build and create with the what's Our Podcast.

Brand and experience.

[C]

Absolutely. And if we ever have a ride, he'll be part of it.

Like a ride at a theme park or something like that.

[A]

No, you didn't need to explain it. I understood.

[C]

Well, it's just kind of like the nothingness on your face. I thought I needed to give you more. You know, don't talk to me. Just kind of the. But we're very happy to have Relle here.

[A]

And. And. And if we have a ride, we'd love for you to be a part of the ride.

[C]

Oh, yeah. You're going to be a part of the ride, too. Everybody's a part of the ride. If you were. If you contributed to.

What'S Our Podcast. But.

[A]

But if those. If there were mean. If you contributed mean comments, you're gonna be a bad guy on the ride.

[C]

Yeah. And we'll get.

[A]

And if you don't subscribe, you're not gonna be on the ride.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So keep subscribing.

[C]

Subscribe. You want to be part.

Make sure you subscribe. You want to be part of the ride?

[A]

Is our guest here?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Nothing else to talk about.

[A]

I could talk to you for.

[C]

I could talk to you for a long time.

[A]

I just want to. I constantly. I want to just. I feel like now that I've started watching the podcast, listening to the podcast because. Yeah. We have to give notes.

[C]

I know.

[D]

Not true.

[A]

Oh, we don't have to give notes.

[D]

No. You guys got to opt into that.

[C]

We should stop. It's too much. It's way too much. But there's just so much of myself. I want to cut out some of these little bits.

[A]

We do. Like, at the top are my favorite parts. And now I'm like. And I've said this before. After our pilot, I remember saying this, like, oh, I don't know if we'll ever do one as good as the pilot, which I love. And then we did do some ones that I really loved. And now it's like, now that I've seen, it's like, oh man, sometimes I love our little intros. And like now I'm gonna be sort of battling against those intros that I've loved.

[C]

Oh, sure. You're like, now you're like, oh, I want to do as well as what we did before. We will. We absolutely will. It's in us. We don't have to do anything. We just have to let it come out. And I was actually thinking too, I do like the intros. I like that we get our own time here and then the guest comes in. But I do feel like in a way, if the guest was able to be a part of this and see.

[A]

Us, they could sort of be informed of what this thing is and kind.

[C]

Of go into it. Because I do feel like we switch gears pretty distinctly into the interview and. But we still, it is still fun and silly, but like, I almost wonder if having them be a part of this would.

[A]

So maybe when our. Oh, you have, you have an idea.

[D]

We could have the guest kind of sit right there and not participate.

[A]

Yeah, but kind of observe. Oh, right there is that thing where people. Yeah, people do the podcast thing where they're like hanging for a while until they're introduced. Yeah, but that, but like we're talking for a while.

[D]

Yeah, but it's still fun. We all love it.

[C]

Yeah. And then they could interject kind of whenever.

[A]

You don't think you'd be nervous with like another person listening?

[C]

I might be. Yeah.

[A]

Because I don't. I wouldn't talk.

[C]

We could maybe put like a bag over their head or something.

[D]

You should pitch it to Zach and see if like.

[C]

Yeah, let's see.

[D]

We're building it with our guests, so see what he thinks.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. And then maybe we could have like a 10 minute moment where he sits over there with a bag on his head just to like. So we can't see what he's thinking based on what we're doing.

[A]

Okay, folks, now just so you're aware, I've been dealing with this guy for 20 some odd years and he's been come up with these crazy ideas. And that's actually why I love him. Dude, dealing with. We're not going to put a bag over somebody's head because that's illegal.

[C]

I didn't know it was illegal.

[A]

That's absolutely illegal. You can't do that.

[C]

Well, then I'm in big trouble.

[A]

Yeah, I know. All of a sudden, like, it's like Beck's written his manifesto. Right? And they're going to come after him.

[C]

Wait, you think I've written a whole manifesto?

[A]

Do we have any idea? Were there any hints? Yeah, he was talking pretty blatantly about putting the bags on people's heads.

[E]

People.

[C]

Well, I didn't know it was illegal, so it's definitely illegal. Yeah, I do have a manifesto about the bags. And it's something I've been waiting to unleash. But now I'm gonna burn that.

[A]

We have a wonderful guest today.

[C]

Incredible actor.

[A]

You've seen him on all sorts of stuff.

[C]

Severance Crashing is where I first saw him. Standout performer on that.

[A]

Emmy nominated.

[C]

Emmy nominated. Dramatically came up in the UCB. Just like us. Kyle. UCB don't think. Yay.

[A]

Oh, we have UCB's biggest cheerleader all of a sudden.

[F]

Do you have the hoodie?

[C]

Don't think.

[G]

Nice.

[F]

That was.

[C]

I never had one of the hoodies.

[A]

The hoodies were pretty ubiquitous there for a moment and 2009.

[C]

Yeah, well, I don't.

[A]

I guess Anya went to go grab him. Maybe.

[C]

Okay, now we got to scoot over.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Zachary Zack.

[F]

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[F]

M. Ah, my bilingual buddy.

[A]

See?

[C]

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[C]

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[F]

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[C]

See, so I hate. I do I. No. But for in all. For all serious. I do hate doing the frantic week before Christmas shopping run, Kyle. But. Yup, do that one more time. Yeah, I love that. But with aura frames, you don't have to. That's something you need to know. Yeah.

[F]

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[C]

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[F]

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[F]

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[F]

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[C]

Did you want to say something?

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[C]

Ah, yes. And there's also a gift box included. Every frame comes packaged in a premium gift box with no price tag.

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[C]

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[C]

Zach. Thanks for coming by, dude.

[A]

Thanks for being here. How. How are you?

[B]

I'm good.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

How are you guys?

[C]

Really bad.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

Yeah. Really, really bad, I think. Or maybe we're good. I don't know. What do you think it's not happening.

[B]

With you, that you said it's not.

[A]

A decision we make together. I feel like I've been sort of. Get to decide for yourself.

[C]

Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm busy.

[B]

You said really bad, like, 30 seconds.

[C]

I know. I really like to say really bad.

[B]

Oh, you're okay.

[C]

I'm okay. Yeah.

[B]

What's the worst thing happening to you right now?

[C]

Oh, worst thing. I mean, it's really only good. I'm just busy.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

And I'm. And I'm solo parenting. My wife is in New York. Right. So it's like, you know, it's a lot of stuff in the morning question.

[A]

Like, what is the worst thing that's happening to you? It's.

[C]

That's the thing I like to start.

[B]

Most social interactions with that I can't.

[C]

And I can't. I'm not gonna say solo parenting is the worst thing because that means I get a lot of time with my son, and I love him.

[B]

You did say it, but we'll.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. The responsibilities, the cleaning. I think the worst thing happening right now is that we moved back from New York after two months, and so there's, like, a lot of chores to do, but I'm spread thin, so, like, the house is not organized. And for me, that drives. That drives me nuts. It's hard to be productive when there's a mess, for sure.

[F]

You know what?

[A]

I, I'm noticing, and this is not fair to say that it's the worst thing. And you guys could tell me if you suffer from this too. Like, I feel like I set up these, like, markers in my life. Like, oh, once I'm done with that, then I'm chilling.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[A]

And, for instance, I have a couple, like, projects that I'm working on right now, and keep on thinking, like, oh, once I put those out there, I'll just be hanging. But after those come out, there'll be something else.

[C]

Yeah, there's always something else.

[B]

Another thing. I think about this a lot. I, I, My ultimate goal is to just be retired.

[C]

Yes, yes, 1,000%.

[B]

I'm looking forward to that so much.

[A]

What do you know? Do you have a sense of what retirement would look like for you?

[B]

I think it would be. I wouldn't just would have no things on my schedule. I would hang out with my wife and my dog, read, walk around a.

[C]

Little bit, play some video games, go to some video games, hang out with some friends.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. I couldn't agree more. And it is like, I feel like we all. We get into this, whether it's like, comedy, acting, writing, creating, whatever.

[A]

Which, by the way, it's so amazing creating art.

[C]

And it's so great to create art. What a lucky opportunity. We're very lucky.

[B]

I want to make sure that I.

[C]

Say, yeah, say it.

[B]

It's so amazing.

[A]

Yeah. And thank you.

[C]

That's gratitude right there. It's fun to focus on something for a couple months, but then to have time off. I remember, like, in high school being like, I don't want to go to a job every day and be, like, stuck working. But then when you start to get stuff going, then it's like it's just happening all the time. And I. I do have that feeling of, like, I want to just not do anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I just want it all to stop. I just want it all to stop. You are. I imagine you're very busy.

[A]

I do, yeah. You do strike me as somebody who's busy. And congrats on everything. And sometimes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Emmy. Well, that's the nomination. You came up through ucb. Yeah, like, Beck and I did to a degree. I don't know that we were, like, fully immersed in the theater, but we definitely were doing stuff.

[C]

Yeah, we're doing sketch shows there. We weren't like.

[A]

But, like, it is a constant grind to do what we do. Do you feel like right now, because some good things have been happening, like, oh, I don't need to grind as much in this moment, or do you think it's, like, still as rigorous?

[B]

I don't know. It kind of feels the same in this, but I also never felt like I. I never felt a real like, I need to grind type of mentality. It was more I was just, like, doing stuff I wanted to do and, like, trying to find people I liked. And I feel like it kind of.

[C]

Feels the same now as far as the grinding situation.

Like, first time I saw you was in Crashing, and you really stood out, and you're.

[B]

At that time, I was grinding pretty.

[C]

Okay, so there was a grinding. So leading up to your first big job, I feel like that's when people are grinding. But then I thought I was like, after that, I went.

[A]

You were another standup in Crashing.

[B]

I was Pete's manager.

[A]

Oh, Pete's. Manager eventually.

[C]

Yeah. But, like, I kind of. I was like, oh, I wonder if after crashing, you were in a position where jobs were coming in, whether it was slow and steady or a lot or whatever, but, like. And you didn't have to grind. You didn't have to grind after that.

[B]

I mean, honestly, to me, it has basically always felt the same because I. I kind of don't ask a lot of questions. I just, like, do the things that show up to me and then hope that more things get to happen.

[C]

And so far, so far, so good for me. I'm like, yeah, we're grinding right here. This is us grinding. We're like, fuck, we gotta get something going.

[A]

And you.

Forgive me for not being fully informed here.

[B]

That's okay.

[A]

But you, you were. You worked with our friend Will Steven, is that right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And were you in a sketch group together?

[B]

Yeah, we were on an improv team and a sketch group together. Yeah.

[A]

Will is a writer on Saturday Night Live who Beck and I both worked with quite a bit.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Love you, Will.

[B]

Yeah. Hey, Will.

[C]

What's up, Will?

[B]

Yeah, Will and I were on a three person sketch and improv team together back in the day.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Do you remember a premise of any. The sketches?

[B]

Well, our thing. Our, like, first thing that kind of like popped a little bit was we did a serial parody at the time. That serial.

[A]

Okay, so we're talking like this must have been 2015ish.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We made a serial parody where Will played Sarah Koenig.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, Cereal was big cereal.

[A]

I remember that Thanksgiving, listening to all those episodes. I drove up to Maine with my brother Ryan.

[C]

Wait, I'm sorry, Wait, you drove up with your brother? I just. I just got fully lost. You're talking about cereal?

[B]

I didn't even know you had a brother until.

[C]

Just.

Wait. What were you doing with cereal? You were watching Cereal on your what?

[A]

So Cereal was a popular podcast from 2014.

[C]

Starts with an S. Oh, cereal.

[A]

Right, Adnan.

[C]

And I was talking about Frosted Flakes. Right.

[B]

I could see the confusion and I wanted to see how it was gonna play out.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it cool that Will was playing Sarah Kane Egg or How do we feel?

[C]

Is it cool?

What do you mean?

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

What are you talking about, man?

[E]

I don't know.

[C]

Why would you say something like that? Was it cool? Like, was it okay that he was.

[A]

Like, well, you're the man who played Sarah, Katie.

[C]

That's cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, whenever I see him, that's How I react.

[C]

Oh, my God. Remember when you played Zerik?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, he just knit. He had. I feel like he had a good handle on the. Sort of, like, the cadence.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

That makes sense.

[A]

We did a. I'm not trying to, like, plug myself or my.

[C]

Oh, yeah. But go ahead and do it. Yeah, just go ahead and plug yourself. Well, every show, Kyle plugs himself.

[A]

You know what? I actually don't want to do this.

[C]

Right. What?

[A]

Zach's here.

[B]

I know. I'm happy to. We're happy. I'm happy to let it play out again.

[C]

Zach is so chill. We knew that.

[B]

I'm not grinding, so I got time.

[C]

He is the opposite of grinding.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I thought.

[A]

I actually don't have much of a point other than that. I thought. I thought you were going to come after me because I'm not. I'm not trying to make it the Kyle show. That's never been my intention. I just want to mention we did a serial parody at snl.

[C]

Oh, congratulations, Kyle, everybody. Kyle did a serial thing at snl.

[A]

Is he done yet?

[C]

No. I'm sorry, man. I was. I was just messing around. I love you so much, and I really love your work.

[A]

Thank you, people.

[C]

You're welcome. Okay, so you were.

[B]

And we're back.

[C]

And we're back. So. But.

[A]

But.

[C]

So get it. Before you did ucb, before you rescheduled, like, how did you.

[E]

Baby.

[A]

I imagine. And then, like, a toddler started.

[C]

Baby, you started as a baby toddler?

[B]

I did baby for a little bit, then I did toddler.

[C]

At what point. At what point did you. Did you always know you wanted to do comedy or did you want to. Did you know you wanted to act?

[B]

Yeah, probably. Honestly, probably during toddler mode.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Really?

[C]

That's early.

[B]

I mean, pretty early. I was like. I remember doing little, you know, little performances and stuff for, you know, I would. I would open my little shop and say, hey, you guys want some food? That kind of thing.

[C]

Yeah, that's cool.

[A]

By the way, that sounds hilarious.

[C]

That sounds amazing.

[B]

Yeah, well, I wasn't. I guess I wasn't necessarily doing comedy yet. I was. I was committing to character work. Before I got into comedy, you kind.

[C]

Of had, like, a cooking show type of thing. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I was honestly probably closer to a grocery store show.

[C]

I mean, that would be a great show. Can you imagine a big. Zach's the grocery store guy, and he's like, what are we gonna get today? That would be sort of like a really calm, chill show, and you'd be, like, going around checking the ripeness of the fruits and vegetables. I think people would be like, kind of like great British bake, which you also are a host of.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So I sort of found my way there eventually, but yeah, I would like to do that.

[C]

Okay, cool. Let's. Let's talk about it afterwards. We definitely have get a percentage of the. Of your groceries.

[A]

I want to say, like, I did not have much to do with it. I don't. If you don't want attach friend am, that's fine.

[B]

I don't think we would have gotten where we did without your.

[C]

And I think you would really bring a lot to the grocery store show.

[A]

Yeah, I do. I. I love grocery stores, and I.

[B]

Feel like I like them too.

[C]

What's your grocery store?

[B]

Whole Foods, usually.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Classic.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Did you live in New York?

[B]

Yeah, I do. Who New York City.

[C]

Whole foods is my grocery store in New York. Here it's sprouts.

[B]

Never been.

[C]

Oh, you got to check it out there, there. If you like. If you like a nice crunchy, salted peanut butter, they make it there. It's really nice.

[B]

I actually. It actually does sound maybe worth a trip.

[C]

It's really worth it.

[A]

I lived by the Gristeedis when I was in New York.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's where I would.

[B]

I used to hit up Christidis.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Depending on the neighborhood I was in.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Keep.

[A]

Oh, so when you were. So. Okay. You were gonna say something tight.

[C]

You said you're gonna say something tight.

[E]

Yo.

[C]

Okay, here goes my boy Kyle.

[F]

Yo.

[A]

Those the big birds? Like vultures? Condors. They are crazy looking.

[C]

You talk about birds.

[A]

Yeah, I thought that would be the tight thing.

[B]

Somebody would say they are kind of scary looking.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that was tight, actually.

[C]

And I don't know if you know this, but birds are the closest descendants of dinosaurs.

[B]

I've heard that.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, I have heard that as well.

[A]

I still. It's still hard to believe. Like, I. I kind of always picture them with scales and not. And not feathers.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, we kind of. Because we're of that Jurassic park generation where they hadn't learned that they had feathers yet. So that's kind of same stuck in Especially the velociraptors.

[C]

They were basically birds.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When you were.

[B]

It's hard to come back from something like that.

[C]

Let's see the transition. Oscars, Emmys, high end acting awards. I guess you're nominated for an Emmy.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

As we said, congratulations for your role in Severance.

Like, did you always wanted to do comedy, but did you have that feeling that you wanted to do more grounded, you know, dramatic roles, or was that kind of a surprise to you once you started working?

[B]

Yeah, more of a surprise. More of a surprise. I definitely was comedy focused, but I sort of always approached comedy from a kind of grounded, like, point of view. I think, especially when I started doing improv and stuff, I was more drawn to kind of trying to keep it real.

[A]

As they say, truth and comedy.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. But, yeah, definitely a surprise. Definitely a surprise.

[C]

And then how. And confusing to me, really, like, well, so, like, I guess besides the response to your work, you know, you got more into that and, like, how was. How was that more dramatic work for you? Like, when you're. When you're, you know, you get the part and then the role evolves and there's more. Was it. Was it a challenge? Was it ever, like, oh, I don't know if I know how to do this kind of thing. And then you had to learn while you were doing it, because, I mean, you do, obviously. You do an incredible job of it.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it was a little like that. I mean, luckily, you know, on severance at least, like, I trusted everyone I was working with and, like, felt very comfortable in that, you know, world and with those people. So I kind of knew we would, like, figure it out. But, yeah, it was. It was a little like, okay, here we go. You know, like, yeah, definitely, it is. I'm also like. But, hey, I also like silly comedies. Of course, that's kind of is what I always wanted to do. But, yeah, it's great. It's great to get to do a variety of things.

[C]

Yeah, it's funny because I feel like there is always a thing of, like, I almost feel like sometimes there's, like, a pressure put on comedic actors to be like, oh, you could do drama. It's like, well, sure, maybe I really like fucking around and, like, being silly.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I would say the main difference for me, like, in terms of my experience is with comedy, you can kind of get instant feedback and, like, direct feedback. Cause it's like people are either laughing or they're not. Obviously, when you're on set, they're not laughing, but, like, you know, after the.

[C]

Fact, it feels good.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. You're like, at least for me, because that's what I know, and that's what I came up doing. You're like, man, that was great. Like, I know I did a good job. Whereas when I'm doing stuff that's a little more. That's less focused. On getting a comedic response, I kind of just do it and go like, well, I hope that was good. I hope people buy that. I have no way of knowing. You know, just like, kind of just gotta trust and put it out there and be like, okay.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

You just, like, reminded me of being on a set, like, let's say a comedy show or movie, and, like, you know, you. You can feel, even if they're not laughing in the moment, you definitely feel something. Maybe people break at cut, or maybe just afterwards, a producer comes up to you like, zach, that was crazy.

[C]

That was hilarious.

[A]

But we're all so happy you're really bringing it or whatever, you know what I mean? But then, like, sometimes. Sometimes when you're. You're on set, you'll see, like, the producer deliver that to somebody else.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You ever get that feeling of, like, them going up, just like, oh, you're killing. And then you're just like, how was I doing? Was I okay?

[C]

All the time. All the time, yeah. Just happened to me recently.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I see. I get that feeling also when no matter what kind of work I'm doing, if I'm not getting, like, a lot of notes, either bad or good, I get confused and in my head and go, like.

Is that good or right?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Are we happy or what? What's.

[A]

Well, they say. I feel like early on, when I was, like, doing commercials or whatever, I feel like what I always heard was like, if you're not getting feedback, it means you're doing it.

[B]

Yeah. But it's so hard to believe that. Yeah. To trust. Take that in.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it takes a while of getting used to that and then being able to trust it and not being as thrown off by it when it happens.

[B]

You guys are doing great, by the way.

[F]

Oh.

[C]

Like, with this right now, really, you're having. You're having a fun time. That's great. I'm having a blast.

[A]

Me too.

[C]

This is freaking chill as hell. It's fun.

[A]

What's.

[C]

What.

[A]

What is. What are you into outside of the entertainment industry?

[B]

I guess big scary birds.

[C]

Kyle loves that.

[B]

Like a condor.

[A]

Well, you know, the California Condor was on the brink of extinction, and I believe the late 80s, early 90s, and we brought him back into the general population. And I believe the San Diego Zoo had a big part in that, and I did a report on that in elementary school. But sometimes you see, you know, I was at the LA Zoo recently, and, you know, you're like, is that a vulture or a condor? I. Sometimes I Have to look at the sign to figure out which one is.

[B]

Yeah, I always have to look at this.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They had a full carcass at the. At the Vulture.

[B]

That's what they eat. Yeah.

[C]

What kind of carcass was it?

[A]

I didn't look. It was. It was a rib cage. I don't know what.

[B]

See, this is why Serial was such an important show, because you get to the bottom of stuff like this.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But it is also serial. Like, I remember their whole bit was, like, talking about memory and what you could actually remember, and I don't fully remember what that rib cage was. And it would be a good way to sort of, like, launch in and to like, kind of figure it out.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, we all know. Will we get him back? We could do, like, a little serial parody.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

We could even do it over Zoom. Kind of like how they were doing Zoom stuff in the early pandemic.

[A]

I remember when Zoom was huge.

[C]

Ye.

[B]

It came out of nowhere.

[A]

Yeah. It truly did.

[B]

I never heard of it.

[C]

And then Skype blew it.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

Skype really blew it. Because they were there. They were ready to go.

[A]

Skype was. Yeah. I remember Google video for a second. Did you ever use that one?

[C]

It's forced on me every now and then.

[B]

You could do it right from the chat.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That's why.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When we first got to snl, I remember I would, like, communicate with friends in LA via the Google one.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, every now and then. Do you remember this era?

[A]

Sorry.

[C]

Oh, no. I was gonna say I was at a race.

[A]

Listen, I bet yours could be good.

[C]

But mine is such a good treasure. No. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. You go. Okay.

[A]

You wanna do. Speaking of. No, let's hear it.

[C]

No, no, I was gonna say, speaking.

[A]

Of la, how are we talking about la?

[C]

You said, yeah, we communicate with my friends in la. Oh, it was perfect because you were.

[B]

Talking about you were living in New York at the time.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So you would talk to your friends here.

[C]

Yeah. Now, speaking of that, you live in New York.

[A]

Really? You're here that much about la? It was more just like.

[C]

Did you mention it?

[B]

Subtle. Like.

[C]

I was ready to go.

[A]

You're just like, oh, shit, he met you.

[C]

Do you like it?

[B]

He did.

[C]

But yeah.

[A]

You.

[C]

You live in New York?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you spend a lot of time out here?

[B]

No.

[C]

And do you not like to.

[B]

No.

[G]

Yeah.

[C]

That's fair. Do you get bodega sandwiches? Yeah, I do get breakfast sandwiches.

[B]

Yeah, occasionally.

[C]

What's your. What's Your breakfast sandwich.

[B]

Just a bacon, egg and cheese. Classic.

[C]

Nice. Okay, Mine is. Okay. You're looking at me. Does anybody want to know mine?

[A]

I don't care.

[C]

Okay? I'm not going to tell you what mine is.

[B]

What about you? What about yours?

[C]

Yeah, what's yours, Kyle?

[B]

Do you like sandwich?

[C]

Tell us, dude.

[A]

Tell us.

[B]

Do you eat breakfast? Oh, no.

[A]

I didn't even know I was going to talk about this.

[C]

He said before you got in here in our little warmup. He's saying he doesn't. Wait, no, that was before that. You said you don't like to eat.

[B]

You don't like to eat at all.

[C]

He tries not to eat.

[A]

I try. Not if I can avoid eating.

[B]

I.

[C]

He likes to snack.

[A]

I do like to. Yeah, I like to graze. Yeah. I'll do bacon, egg and cheese. I also like sometimes, I mean, just a classic. Some sort of like, you know, turkey, cheddar, like, kind of.

[B]

I'll build breakfast.

[A]

But you know what I like?

[B]

You'll do that for breakfast?

[A]

Oh, no, no. I thought we're down with sandwich. Generally.

[B]

I was more focused on breakfast.

[C]

I think we were focused on breakfast without explicitly saying it. It's okay. This is only, like our 16th episode. You're still figuring out how to podcast. It's okay, dude.

[B]

And I was just curious. I wasn't judging. I was curious.

[A]

I wanted my favorite breakfast sandwich.

[B]

Is it turkey and chicken at a.

[A]

Bodega or like, just generally in life?

[B]

Let's do both.

[A]

I think bacon, egg, and cheese is, we can agree, is ubiquitous. I feel like everybody knows it's.

[C]

Yeah, I'm going on a roll. I'm going on a roll.

[A]

Yeah, I think a roll. Yeah. And then if I'm going. Okay, fast food breakfast sandwich. The breakfast Jack from Jack in the Box.

[B]

What's that?

[C]

Wow.

[A]

That's ham, egg, cheese on a. Sort of like. They're like hamburger buns.

[B]

Yeah, I like that.

[C]

Sandwiches are really, really good.

[B]

They are so good. The bread.

[A]

I still haven't had bread.

[C]

So you're telling me you have. So you have been having these sandwiches without any bread and you're just kind.

[A]

Of like, sometimes, though. Sometimes they'll give me the bread, but I just haven't touched it.

[D]

You guys were supposed to talk to Zach about your intro question.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Oh, okay. So right now we do you know this. We're trying to figure out what our podcast is about. How to podcast all that.

[B]

I've listened.

[C]

Oh, you have?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, great. So we always do the intro without the guest in and then we bring the guest in. And I was thinking it could be interesting to have the guests sit there and see our little. Take part in our little preamble. You know, the bits and the discussion and the catching.

[B]

Like participate or just watch the show.

[C]

Just sit there. And then I was even say, Kyle was like, do you think that would make you nervous, feel self conscious? And I was like, yeah, maybe we put a bag over their head.

[A]

Well, see, I actually.

[C]

So that we can't see what they're thinking.

[A]

A slight misrepresent experience with this, but.

[B]

Yeah, let's hear it.

[A]

I. I don't. I don't know. That nerve. Nerves was what I was afraid of. More just that like boredom. And it's like you're just sitting there watching two people. Oh, I was saying. Oh, we. I was saying I might be nervous.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. You might get self conscious of like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't know that I would go off in the. In the same way if I knew that somebody.

[B]

You were going off about me before I got out.

[C]

No, no, not about you. Just was goofing just here. He.

[A]

Zach Cherry's about to come. He's probably gonna walk in here.

[C]

Yeah, he was ripping on you big time. But no, but how do you. What do you. What do you think about that? Do you like coming in this way or how do you feel about potentially sitting on the couch at the beginning?

[B]

Yeah. Well, as a semi professional podcast guest.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I will say the absolute worst part of every podcast is a part where you just sit there waiting to be introduced, talk and you don't say anything.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's. It's confusing and it's like, when can I talk?

[C]

I'm always like, can I talk? My bad.

[B]

I didn't need to be here for this type of experience.

[A]

And sometimes if you do, per chance, interject, they're like, oh, we're getting a little sneak peek from our guest.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, they sort of address it and they become.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So I definitely prefer this approach.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I could have told you that immediately.

[C]

I'm always looking to improve, tweak stuff, mess with stuff, tinker, and it's not always good.

[B]

How much do you two guess on pods?

[C]

I've been guesting a lot. I have two podcast episodes about to come out. I'm very nervous about it in the chamber.

[A]

What did you. Do you want to say what they are or what?

[C]

Yeah, I could get ahead of it. I was on Stavi's World and I talk about, talk about, you know, the sock embopper issue.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

I decided to put it all out there. I masturbated with a sock and bopper when I was.

[B]

What's a sock embopper?

[C]

It's a thing. It's like a kid's boxing glove that you kind of put your hand in this thing.

[A]

It's inflatable.

[C]

It's inflatable. And I was like, huh? You know, after American Pie, probably.

[B]

Sure, sure.

[C]

I was like, that looks like something I could go to town.

[A]

I always thought this story took place before American Pie.

[C]

Probably. I'm not sure exactly.

[B]

Because you would have been why you're.

[A]

Throwing American Pie in there.

[C]

I'm blaming American Pie. It's not my fault. We're all trying to have sex. We're all trying to have sex with stuff. Story for you.

[A]

Because I've heard the story so many times. I actually, I. I gifted him a set of sock and boppers later on in life.

[C]

Yeah. But I didn't take advantage of him in the same way when I was a child.

[A]

He. A sock.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

Sort of a proto fleshlight, like.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

He ejaculated inside of it.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no. Not inside of it. But it was. It was lubricated.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I never went inside. I. I swear.

[A]

Well, then I actually maybe have a misunderstanding. The story. Because, like, from what I know, his brother and his friend went upstairs and they're like, oh, look, you got sock and boppers. And his brother's friend put his hand in and it was crusty inside.

[B]

I see.

[C]

Interesting. This telva. No, it was. It was like. It was like. It was. It had been lubricated, sort of still wet, so. Well, it was like. It was. What's the stuff?

[B]

Lubrimi.

[C]

Lubriderm. No, not coming. What's the stuff? You know, the. Not KY jelly. Vaseline.

[B]

Sure.

[C]

It was Vaseline. So Vaseline hadn't dried up.

[A]

Yeah, but how recently had you put your.

[C]

I was like. I was doing it three times a day.

[F]

I don't know.

[B]

Vaseline will stay.

You could leave the lid off a.

[C]

Jar and it doesn't dry out.

[B]

Dry out?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It might, like, get a little film over the top.

[C]

Yeah. But it's just that he knew.

[A]

Do you think that he's like, wait, Vaseline? Your little brother, he was fucking this.

[C]

Well, it was my younger. It was my younger brother and his friend. Oh. So.

[A]

Man, I. Okay. I did seriously have to.

[C]

So this is really taking on a different life. I think they, like, you know, maybe there were, like, two sets of Them. They put one in, and it's kind of hard to get your hand in there, you know, and then.

[B]

Which. For your purposes.

[C]

Yeah, which is great. So then they got one in.

[B]

It had to be two easy.

[C]

They put their hand in one, and it was like.

They were like. You put your hand in a.

[A]

Wait, were you. Were you around them?

[C]

Yeah, it was like I couldn't get my hand in.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It was hard to get my hand in, and they were like, we're good. And they, like, walked out of the room.

[A]

Do you think they did the math or no?

[C]

Yeah, because I talked to my brother about it, like, a couple years later. I was like, remember that? Soccer was like. Yeah, we knew you were.

Okay, so. So, okay. Getting ahead of you.

[A]

Told that on a podcast.

[B]

You got one whole other podcast coming down the pipe.

[C]

I'm talking about my podcast. Yeah, I got that. And then I got good one on Vulture, and they asked me all sorts.

[B]

Of crap about, like, stuff you would. And.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I was talking about, like. Well, yeah, yeah. Like. And I'm. I told them all the other stuff I had sex with. That's awesome. No, there was nothing else.

[B]

That's awesome.

[C]

But yeah. Yeah. So I. I would do other podcasts.

[B]

Yeah, Well, I was just. The reason I asked is because this. This question. I think it's important to consider things from all perspectives, because you were thinking about it from the host chair.

[C]

Yeah, but.

[B]

But you got to know what it's like as the guest, and we want.

[C]

To put our guest at ease.

[A]

Yeah, it does stink.

[C]

Yeah. Okay, well, we'll keep it.

[A]

Like, there's nothing natural about it. Like, I don't know why.

[B]

No, it's almost. It's. It has to just be a logistic. It's. People just do it because it's easier than, you know, trying to shuffle you.

[A]

In record or something.

[B]

Yeah. And we're gonna.

[A]

We're.

[B]

We're cutting a ton of the stuff you guys were kind of getting off on.

[C]

Oh, yeah. All the. All the bird stuff. Ejaculations.

[A]

The bird stuff is fine. I don't think it's good. It's not gold.

[B]

If I had to cut one thing, it would probably be the bird stuff.

[C]

Sorry, Kyle.

[A]

That's fair. That is very fair. But I actually did feel bad in that moment just knowing that. Knowing that I have wasted everybody.

[C]

No.

[B]

Oh, no, no, you can't. I was just having fun.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. This is. This is.

[B]

I enjoyed the bird conversation.

[A]

It was a nothing thing.

[C]

I don't know how this is going to how this is going to look afterwards. But I'm feeling the flow. I'm really loving the. I'm loving my time here with Zach.

[B]

Yeah. I'm having.

[C]

And everything you've done has been great. Zach has been wonderful.

[B]

I like to bird. I like birds.

[A]

You don't need to build me up. I want. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna work on just letting this stuff wash over me.

[C]

That's what we got to do in podcasts.

[A]

I think it was brilliant myself. And that's okay. You know, they let us.

[B]

The dinosaurs.

[C]

There's no. There's nothing brilliant about podcasts.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

You know, they've done. They've done that already.

[A]

They've done brilliant podcasts.

[C]

Yeah. And now they're. Now. Now we're like. Now we're hanging out, just having a good time. Yeah.

[A]

Well, that does bring us to, you know, just the subject of podcasting generally. Zach, you've. You've heard the show, so I imagine maybe you're aware of the general premises.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Beck and I are trying to figure out what our podcast should be about. Do you have an idea or pitch of what you think we should make a podcast about?

[B]

I do, yeah.

[C]

Great.

[B]

I do.

[A]

Do you think. Would you be interested in telling us, or is it a situation you'd rather not tell us?

[B]

I mean, I guess given that I'm here on the podcast, I will share.

[A]

Probably the better. Probably one of the better times to do it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Generally, I wouldn't. If it weren't in this exact context, I would not just, like, walk up to you and give you feedback on your podcast. But, yeah, I'm happy to share here.

[C]

Well, let's ask. What do you think our podcast should be about?

[B]

I think it's time you've done how many episodes?

[C]

Must be. We've aired about 13, so.

[B]

Perfect. I think it's time for you to do a what's Our Podcast Recap Podcast.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Where you go through all the episodes of what's Our Podcast, you recap them for the fans and for fans like me. I haven't listened to every episode. I'll be honest.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know. Sometimes I'm worried, like, maybe the bird thing is a thing you brought up before.

[C]

Never. But this is the third time.

[B]

But I don't know that. I'm saying I don't know that. So.

[C]

But honestly, like, I do think that Kyle and Birds is going to become a part of the what's Our Podcast universe now.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Like, it could even be a thing. Like this week on Kyle's Birds, and he'll talk about, like, birds.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Bird thing was a mistake.

[B]

No, but this is what I'm talking about. As fans, we want to know, like, maybe. Maybe Birds was cut from another episode. And, you know, I've been trying to.

[A]

Like, kind of work it back in.

[B]

Yeah. So I want to hear these behind the scenes. I want to hear what your mood was like on each day, you know, like.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And I take back the bird stuff.

[C]

No, you can't take back the bird stuff. It's out there.

[B]

But this is perfect. This is what I want to get into.

[C]

So this is. It's a recap of what's our podcast.

[B]

With Beck and Kyle.

[C]

With Beck and Kyle and Zach. Cherry.

[A]

Now can I.

[B]

Sure, sure.

[C]

You got to be there. We're going to go. Do you know, first guest.

[B]

Yeah, I'll be there.

[A]

Or our guest. Do you think that, like, we can.

[B]

We can cover this? We can cover the episode we just did.

[A]

No, that's. That's good, too.

If we cover this, we're talking about the birds. There's just.

[C]

It can't be avoided, unfortunately. It's probably going to be a birds. It's gonna end up being kind of like a bird.

[A]

Like. Yeah. Like, kind of halfway through the episode, like, well, I guess it's time we got in.

[C]

Sure, sure. Yeah.

[A]

Can we. Can we roll the clip?

[C]

And then it's like.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

It was. It was.

[C]

Beck said, there's no way we can do that. Right. Too soon.

[A]

It was something like you said. Like, you got to say some good shit it for the listeners.

[B]

They could hear it.

[C]

Yeah, we can. We can, like, wait. We can. It'll pop up, and we can wait for it and be like, let's play the clip, and then we'll sit there and watch it and I'll.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Would you say, though, I'm just. Just to. For the sake of conversation, the end of our episode, which is typically. We do. We. You and I, intro. We bring in our guest, we do the podcast. We want a podcast. And then we come back. That is almost like a slight recap, is it not?

[C]

It's not.

[A]

Definitely not exactly what you're referring to.

[C]

It's a slight recap of the. Of the.

[A]

But we don't. We're not going into, like, this was good. This was bad. This was good. I remember what I was feeling. Like this.

[B]

Yeah. The feelings. It's with Beck and Kyle. I want to know how Beck and Kyle Were feeling.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[A]

So what do you think? Is it this. Is it just this episode or is it the entire canon?

[C]

I think it's the canon. Right.

[B]

I'd love for you to cover the canon. Okay, great.

[C]

As much as possible. Great.

[B]

Recalling maybe.

What'S our podcast Podcast Podcast.

[C]

Great.

[A]

It's our podcast. Podcast. Why is there. Why?

[C]

Because it's. Because what's our podcast is a podcast.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What's our podcast Podcast. About the podcast. What's our.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

But you put in what.

[C]

What's our podcast?

[B]

What's our podcast? Podcast Podcast.

[A]

It's the last podcast that is confusing me.

[B]

I think. Say it out loud and you'll feel it.

[A]

What's our podcast? Podcast is a place you could stop.

[C]

No, but. No, but that'd be the same as saying like, oh, like oh, like it's a TV show.

[A]

It's just where you're just. Oh. It's called. It's the what's our podcast Podcast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is the what's our podcast Podcast Podcast. I'm with you Just say.

[C]

I think I see.

[B]

Let it flow. Try it. Try it.

[C]

Let.

[B]

And let it flow.

[C]

Okay, so. Okay.

[A]

Well, I just said it.

[B]

Yeah, but you were kind of hesitant.

[A]

Okay, more confidence.

[G]

It.

[A]

Hey guys, we're going to be right back with the what's our podcast Podcast Podcast. See you soon.

[B]

Feels like the right number of podcasts.

[F]

Every year I panic at the last minute and end up buying a gift card. But this year I realized there's a way better option. Just buying or a friend.

[C]

Cuz you know, you always just end up shoving that gift card straight up your butt.

[F]

And I like it.

[C]

That's not what it's for. You're supposed to give it to your.

[F]

Amigos, your familia, my bilingual buddy.

[C]

See, So I hate. I do. I know. But for in all. For all serious. I do hate doing the frantic week before Christmas shopping run, Kyle.

[A]

But.

[C]

Yup, I do that one more time. Yeah, I love that. But with Aura frames, you don't have to.

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[F]

Unlimited photo. What's that, man?

[C]

Did you want to say something?

[F]

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[C]

Ah, yes. And there's also a gift box included. Every frame. Comes packaged in a premium gift box with no price tag.

[F]

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[C]

You can't wrap togetherness, but you can Frame it. Frame it.

[F]

Frame it.

[C]

Frame it. Why did I say frame it? It's like, what was that even a word in the dictionary?

[F]

As my grandma used to say, I'm having a brain fart.

[C]

Yeah, she used to have a lot of those.

[F]

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[C]

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[F]

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[C]

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[A]

What's up, everybody? I'm Kyle Mooney and I'm back.

[C]

Yes. Woo. Back at the pod, dude. Great to see you, man. It's great to see you.

[A]

Yes.

Man, you are.

[C]

And you are too.

[A]

You've always been. You always surprised me.

[C]

Thanks, man.

[A]

No problem. Yeah, I'm always like, oh, that something's a little. Oh, that's a little bit of. That's a little different move than I sort of of originally thought was that. I didn't know that was going to happen. Sort of.

[C]

That's amazing. And you are always kind of doing exactly what I thought.

[A]

Thanks, brother. Well, I really love doing our podcast together. What's our Podcast?

[C]

I love doing what's our podcast.

[A]

But I feel like, you know, there's just been such a demand.

[C]

Right, of course there has.

[A]

For. For learning more about the process, learning about what went what behind the scenes, of course, what we were going through, what we make, what the producers were going through, which is why we've been doing this brand new show, which I'm sure some of you are very aware of. You know, our Rockos, our Rockettes. The Rockettes. Listen to this podcast.

[C]

Oh, okay. Yes, sorry.

I realized that and I stepped in it and I'm sorry. I made a mistake. I am sorry to all the Rockettes out there.

[F]

It's all good.

[A]

So let's go ahead and get started with.

What'S our podcast? Podcast. Podcast.

[C]

What's our podcast? Podcast. Podcast.

That's what it's all about. You told us. What's our podcast? Podcast. Podcast. That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Yes. Officially locked in low rockets. We are here with Zach Cherry.

[B]

Hi. Yes, right away. I just do want to say I just experienced what we had been talking about as far as kind of sitting here during the intro.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And it.

[F]

It sucked.

[C]

Yeah, it's to Be here.

It was a great.

[B]

It was a great intro as a listen. Like, when I listened to this later.

[C]

You wanted to be a part of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Can I.

[B]

You guys were great, and we're having. I. I was enjoying listening, but I was sort of being like, well, what do I do?

[C]

Yeah, but, like, maybe if we had put a bag on your head and you. Like, we're in another world.

[B]

Like, if there had been a bag in my head, I think I would have been more comfortable.

[A]

But that's illegal, right?

[B]

Not if I support it.

[C]

I think we. We went over it in the. In the. In the part. In the intro. In the intro before you came into our last podcast.

[B]

This is exactly what I want.

[A]

This is the good stuff.

[C]

And Kyle told me it was illegal to put bags on people. People's heads.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Without asking.

[C]

For sure. For sure. Okay. Well, yeah, that would. That would have definitely been weird.

[B]

Could we actually try something? Yeah, could we try. Could you do a little intro and I'll kind of like.

[C]

Yeah, I'm sure we have a bag around here, so. Paper bag.

[B]

I'll kind of bag myself. I can. I can bag myself with this.

[A]

I can take my shirt off.

[B]

No, you don't need Kyle.

[C]

I was taking his shirt off. He's got an awesome. Just like a. Like, it's like a body that makes you kind of comfortable.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I actually get hairy in a certain way, and it's kind of like. Oh, that's.

[A]

Yeah. Not threatening. Well, not in. Not.

[C]

It's kind of like Will Ferrell's body. It's just kind of like. Oh, it's kind of cute.

[B]

Would the idea be that then I would use your shirt to put over my head.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That I'm less comfortable.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, that's definitely illegal.

[B]

Yeah. But look, I can just sort of bag myself like this. Okay. I would love to see what that feels like.

[C]

I think we got some kind of bag.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, let me try this bag.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Be careful with that. I don't want you to suffocate.

[B]

No, there's air holes in this.

[C]

Yeah, there's air holes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So if we could try. I do just want to see how this feels.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And I also don't hate a second chance.

[B]

And if it feels bad.

[C]

Okay. So for the. What's our podcast. Podcast. Podcast. We're gonna redo the intro with a bag on Zach's head and just so.

[B]

You'Re not in your head. You were doing a great job. It had nothing to do with what you were doing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It was just that I felt like I was.

[G]

I know.

[A]

You know, you sort of came after me after the whole birds thing.

[C]

We'll get to the bird stuff. Okay. We'll get to that.

[B]

You were doing great.

[A]

Now I. Should we decide this now? I mean, like, is there a re.

[F]

Yeah, we should.

[A]

There should be a reveal, like.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

When you introduce me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, you want to reveal?

[A]

No, I think you can do it.

[B]

Sorry, sorry. No. Yeah, you're welcome.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

I don't want to. I definitely don't want to.

[C]

I think it'll be like. And our guest is. And then the camera will go to you with the bag on your head, and then you'll pop it off.

[B]

I'd love to see how that feels.

[A]

Okay, Zach, you let us know when you're ready.

[B]

All right, let's do it.

[A]

Okay. Zach, are you. Are you underneath the bag?

[B]

I am.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And you feel safe underneath the bag? I feel safe.

[B]

I'm prepared.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And that is. And we're sure that's Zach Cherry underneath the bag? Yep.

[C]

Well, we'll find out once we do the intro.

[A]

What's up, every. What's up, everybody? I'm Kyle Mooney.

[C]

And I'm Beck Bennett.

[F]

And.

[A]

Damn, Beck. Wow, I love your button up.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

This is a plaid.

[C]

Yeah, plaid.

[A]

What's the difference between plaid and flannel? I think flannel is the material.

[C]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

And plaid is the pattern.

[C]

Pattern, yes. So this is a. But I always would call this a flannel.

[A]

So could you. Would you call it then a plaid flannel? If it's the pattern and the material?

[C]

Oh, that's really interesting for all our Rockettes out there. Let us know in the comments.

[A]

I guess we didn't check in with you.

[C]

How are you? And this is a. This is a Double RL brand.

[F]

Double rl.

[A]

So it's RRLL or rlrl.

[C]

Rrl.

[A]

Oh, double rl.

[C]

In case Ralph Lauren's listening, Send us more plaid flannels, please. We would love to.

[A]

So Ralph Lauren makes the double R.

[C]

L. I don't know. Yeah.

[A]

So you think it's Ralph. Ralph Lauren.

[C]

Yeah, this is a Ralph. Ralph Lauren.

[A]

Very cool. Well, as you know, we host a podcast with some rather incredible guests called what's Our Podcast?

[C]

Where we try to figure out what we're talking about.

[A]

You know, we keep from both our Rockos and our Rockettes that they wanna know more about the process of making our podcast. The what's Our Podcast? Podcast.

[C]

So we've started this show, the what's our Podcast? Podcast. Podcast, where we kind of look back at all the podcasts we've done and kind of talk about em just a little bit. We won't talk about everything, but we'll kind of pull back the bag, as it were, and see what's beneath the bag.

[A]

Show you what's in our bag.

[C]

So.

What'S our podcast? Podcast.

[F]

Podcast.

[C]

That's what it's all about. You told us. What's our podcast?

[A]

Podcast.

[C]

Podcast.

[A]

Podcast.

[C]

That's what we'll talk about with Beck and Kyle.

[A]

Wonderful guest. So good to see you. By the way, the flannel I can't take my eyes off.

[C]

And you have a sort of a mustard shirt.

[A]

This is more of a muscle shirt you wear.

[C]

You're wearing one of your Tommy muscle shirts.

[A]

It's one of my muscle shirts. We have a great guest. You've seen him on Severance, you've seen.

[C]

Him on Crashing, you've seen him on.

[A]

Fallout Came through the UCB from Trenton, New Jersey. Let's give a big hand for Zach Cherry there. He is.

[B]

Genuinely a much better experience, honestly. Yeah, it was nice in there.

[C]

That's, that's. Yeah. You didn't feel like you had to participate. You knew where you were.

[E]

It.

[B]

You know what it felt like? It felt like. It felt like, you know, when you have a chance to just kind of be alone with your phone and like scroll a little bit and it feels like a nice kind of you time. It felt like that without having to interface with technology.

[C]

Yeah. So it was almost a little meditative.

[A]

I was going to say. That's the way I feel. You know, I would feel it church when I would pray. Like, I never knew that I was praying right. But I just like, so, like.

[C]

Yeah, that's amazing that Zach sitting here with the bag on his head. It was like kind of like.

[A]

Well, the way you're describing it, it sounds like my. Well, my prayer experience.

[B]

It was. It was kind of awesome, honestly.

[C]

And moving forward with this podcast, we could call it the Prayer Bag and just put it on.

[A]

And in your eyes, the bag is the bag.

[B]

This was the perfect bag. This. If you're going to do it, do it with this exact bag.

[A]

Okay, we're going to keep that because producers, we're going to hold on to this bag.

[B]

I could kind of see a little bit if I wanted to check in to make sure nothing crazy was happening.

[C]

That we weren't doing anything weird.

[B]

Plenty of air. Yeah, this was perfect.

[C]

And the bag says, are you down?

[B]

That's right.

[C]

So it's kind of appropriate. Are you down for the bag?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Cool.

[A]

Well, we'll make sure we're gonna. I think we're. I don't know if we're allowed to spoil guests, but we're gonna have Tony Hawk in later today, and we'll make sure to put a bag over his head.

[C]

Yeah, we'll tell him all about the bag, but we're not talking about the shows we haven't done. We're talking about the shows we have done. So let's get into it. How do we. The first. First show we ever did was with.

[B]

I can't believe what a good mood I am in after having that bag in my head.

[A]

You sold us on the bag.

[B]

Genuinely. I like. It felt like a. The way people talk about, like a peyote trip.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I feel like I have a new perspective.

[C]

That's amazing. I feel like with podcasts, you know, it's like there's nothing physical about them. You don't get to. To really do anything. You're just sitting there talking, and I think the bag is really big.

[A]

And I. And I. I thought. I felt like, oh, well, I was. I was. You know, I couldn't not think about the fact that our guest was. Had a bag over their head.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

So I was. I was aware of it, and I was like, oh, this intro is. I think it was definitely longer than the. The last intro.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Honestly, a little more time on the flannel.

[C]

I think that we maybe even felt a little bit more free not seeing Zach.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Now, did you feel at all underneath the bag, like, oh, they're having fun. They're taking their time because they know I'm underneath a bag.

[B]

No, I. Honestly, there were moments where I wasn't even in this room.

[C]

Yeah, you were somewhere else.

[B]

You really did have somewhere else.

[F]

A trip.

[B]

That's cool. I would check in a little bit. I remember. Okay, so there was a moment.

[C]

That's where you went a little bit. Yeah.

[B]

There was a moment where you had finished the intro and then you went back to the flannel. Yes, that I did. I. That felt a little disrespectful to your time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But because I was having such a great experience, I was able to let that thought go almost immediately. True meditation.

[C]

That's great.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, well, I would like to talk more about that, but that's not what our podcast is about.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

And. And Zach, I know you. You said you've Seen. You've maybe heard or seen some episodes. Feel free to jump in if you want to. Also, no pressure. We're not trying to, but yeah. Let's talk about our pilot episode. Fran Gillespie, who.

[C]

And we probably have about a minute for each of these.

[A]

Pitched the idea of audition. I gotta say, this was our. When Beck and I came up with the idea for what's our podcast, we pitched it to a few different studios.

[B]

Where were you when you came up with it, by the way? Can I ask?

[C]

I feel like it was. We were hanging. Maybe we were at that cigar shop. Me and Kyle have gone to smoke cigars at a cigar shop where they have of leather couches for the boys to sit at. Maybe once, maybe twice. But I think we. We talked about it there. That was definitely a solid podcast meeting.

[A]

Interesting. I thought that would have. I thought that would have come after the podcast existed.

[C]

Yeah, well, it was after maybe we had started pitching, but.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Before it existed.

[A]

I don't know when it came. I think Beck and I had spoken about, like, it would be nice to maybe do a podcast. And I feel like I had a little seed of an idea of like, oh, what if it's something where we're trying to figure out what our podcast is? And then we built on that and then we started pitching it. And we were very fortunate to.

Sort of.

[C]

Land here at Headgum.

[A]

We were very fortunate to sort of land here at Headgun.

[C]

Fortunate to what? What were you trying to say?

[A]

Yeah, something like that. I was like, trying to, like, describe, like, when the great minds collide.

[C]

Well, because it was Anya's idea, I believe, to come into this studio for the podcast within the podcast, which I think really worked well.

[A]

That was. But that was after Fran. The Fran episode. Fran episode all took place in the previous studio, but I do think we.

[C]

Landed at a place that has allowed some, you know.

[A]

Yeah, but the Fran episode was great. We knew, like, if we were gonna do our first episode, we wanted to have somebody we were comfortable with.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And she's. She grew up with Beck and worked with me at SNL and is very, very close friend. And I thought it was a great choice.

[C]

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. She brought in sides. It was interactive for the audition. We've all auditioned a lot. We had a lot to say about it. And yeah, I remember being self conscious.

[A]

That day about mugging to the camera too much.

[C]

Oh, I remember that. We graded ourselves at the end of it. You thought you were too silly, which I think now, having done 18, I don't think we can be silly enough.

[A]

Yeah, I hear that.

[C]

I remember we didn't switch studios, but we were going into the podcast within the podcast, and I just started, like, felt like my head. I was, like, sweating out of nerves of, like, I don't know how to do this.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

You know, this might be.

[B]

This might be another opportunity to implement the bag.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

If you're ever. If you're ever feeling like that while doing the podcast, I love that. I mean, do you want to.

[A]

I, I am. I am curious.

[C]

I, I, I honestly had this feeling. I was like, what if me and this. I came up with the bag stuff? Because I was like, what if we did our intro with bags on our heads and we couldn't see each other? Cause, like, it is an audio medium.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And I was like, maybe that would be freeing. Kyle, how does it feel to have the bag on your head? Or maybe when the bag's on your head, you're not there.

[B]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

Here's what I'll say about the bag.

I don't know that I can't. I don't know that I could definitively speak to some of the strength you're. I can feel. I can see what you're saying, and I don't. Absolutely. I don't disagree.

[C]

Smells pretty good in here.

[A]

For me, it's more of an experience. What I like about it is that, like, I'm allowed to ignore people.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

Like, it's more of, like.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I actually don't need to listen to.

[B]

This person right now or respond or participate.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

It's freeing.

[C]

Yeah. This feels very nice.

[A]

You look funny in it.

[C]

You can't even see.

[A]

You look like a critter. You do look like.

[B]

I was just gonna say you look.

[A]

Like a rock man or something.

[B]

You look like some type of. Yeah. Some type of monster character.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe like a Tim Burton.

[C]

I was gonna say the guys from. The guys from Beetlejuice. Little Snake Eyes.

[A]

And I do like it when you ex. When you're exclamatory, because we don't see any emotion. Exactly. Really serious. Can you give us a range of emotions sort of from underneath the bag?

[C]

Yeah. So let's see.

[B]

Huh?

[C]

That's pretty funny.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Oh, that's really funny.

[B]

Okay, so we're gonna stick mostly with different levels of funny.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That wasn't that funny to me. Sorry. I was trying to find a different level.

[A]

No, no, that's fine.

[B]

You had mentioned being scared or nervous. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And did the bag help with That.

[C]

A little bit, but it did. It does. I think it does make me want to participate less.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, cuts me off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But in kind of a nice way.

[C]

Yeah. And kind of a nice. Like. Yeah, I enjoy that experience, but. Yeah.

[A]

The only other thing I'll say about the Fran episode was we got. We went to 33 taps after.

[B]

I was gonna ask about any food in and around any of these episodes.

[A]

I feel like we had maybe some wings.

[C]

We had some wings. We had some boneless, maybe.

[A]

Yeah. Do we have nachos?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And that's something we've not done since. And I miss that sort of thing.

[C]

I do too.

[A]

We gotta start.

[C]

We've been, like, busy. We've been like, yeah, everybody.

[A]

You gotta pick up your kid or you gotta get to another thing.

[C]

Ye.

[B]

That's why. That's why I feel like it's important to take time to reflect like this.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, remember what you're missing out on.

[C]

Absolutely. You should definitely go to whatever that.

[A]

Sometimes Beck drives me home, though.

[B]

That's really nice.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The Rockettes are gonna eat that up.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. We carpool. It's really cute.

[B]

And can I ask, this is actually. When did the Rockettes thing arrive? Cause that I haven't encountered that. I must have missed that one.

[C]

Well, recently, we decided Kyle came up with Roccos for our fans. Like, the people who listen to our PODC podcast are Rocco's. And then for this, you rock cats happened right here.

[A]

They listen to this podcast.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

They listen.

[A]

I was here for that.

[B]

Yeah. Wow.

[C]

Yeah. You're kind of the first rock. That's thrilling in a way.

[A]

I mean, like, if there's some sort of wiki of. Of this whole experience, I feel like you now are even more notable.

[B]

It'll go down there. Yeah.

[C]

For sure. The bag, the Rockettes. You're like, you're all over this.

[F]

And I do think.

[B]

I have a feeling that there will be a community of listeners that develops that I'm gonna refer to as the Bagheads, who will probably put a bag on their head to listen to the show going forward.

[C]

I love that. Yeah.

[B]

Cause I do think if you're listening, it will change your experience and your.

[C]

Relationship to the podcast and, like.

[A]

And, you know, if you're out there, if you're a Rockette, if you're a Rocko, Whatever you are, or if you're neither, if you're just a casual listener. Yeah. We encourage you. Go ahead, throw a bag on right now. Send us photos. Send us videos. We'd Love to see you.

[D]

Listen.

[C]

Definitely not plastic. No plastic bags. I want to go on the record saying, cause people could suffocate.

[A]

I flipped on the bag thing. I used to say bags were illegal. Now I say bags are. Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Make sure it's not illegal. Whatever the version of it you're doing.

[A]

You don't want it to be a stolen bag.

[C]

No, no, no.

[A]

Our second episode was Marc Maron, and his suggestion was wacky and not now. That episode we were recorded much.

[C]

Our 10th episode we recorded, I believe that was great.

[A]

Intimidating, because Marc Maron is a pretty.

[C]

Prominent podcaster, but he was very nice, very sweet. Sweet and fun, and he had a great time, it seemed like.

[B]

And do you think the bag would have helped him or us at all in that episode? I'm now realizing what I really want to know is with each of these episodes, how would have the bag, how the bag would have impacted it.

[C]

That's fair, I think. No, I think that that felt good.

[A]

I think that I would just, to be fully honest, I would feel disrespectful putting a bag over Marc Maron. Sure. But I can tell you who I'd throw bags on.

[B]

Yeah. Who would you have felt comfortable with?

[A]

Tim Baltz was our next episode. I would feel comfortable approaching him with that.

[C]

Yeah. Tim was a guy. I'd never met him before. So sweet, very smart, down to go with anything. Spoke French. Yeah. We talked about Wet Dream Brothers. So I think he'd be like, yeah, I would bag on my.

[A]

Then we had Claudia O'Daherti, a friend of ours. Again, I would approach like, hey, we've been doing this thing, talking about this thing. Would you consider wearing a bag on your head?

[C]

I think Claudia would very nicely say, I don't want a bag on my head. Like, I've come here to do your podcast. Don't put a bag on my head.

[B]

If any of the previous guests do stumble across this conversation, I would love for you to reach out and let them know if you would have bagged or not bagged.

[C]

Oh, would any of the previous guests.

[B]

Yeah. So if Claudia or Mark or Fran, if you hear this, please reach out and let them know if you would have bagged.

[A]

And I also want to say, if you're listening to this and you are a future guest, you're listening, and you're like, oh, I want to do this show. Maybe someday. Feel free when you're on the show to volunteer yourself, say, I'd like to put the bag on my head.

[F]

It really did.

[B]

It was great.

[C]

It really brings a new element to the show.

[A]

Go, Bobby Mohan. I would force a bag on.

[C]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Put a bag on.

[B]

Legal or not.

[C]

Yeah. And Bobby would love a bag on his.

[A]

Yes. Brennan Lee Mulligan.

[C]

I think he. I think I'd ask.

[B]

I think he would be game for.

[C]

For.

[A]

I don't know. We don't know him as well, but he seems like.

[B]

I know Brennan pretty well. He was. He coached one of my improv teams for. For years.

[A]

He's.

[B]

This guy's got the heart of. Yes.

[A]

And we have. I feel like knowing that we have, you know, a former student of his. We can maybe use that. Yeah.

[C]

And I'm gonna say now that we've gotten into this, I feel pretty good about putting a bag on a guy's head. A woman. I'm kind of. That feel. I feel out of place. Putting a bag on a woman.

[B]

It certainly has a whole different connotation. It is a history that doesn't feel good.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. And. Yeah.

[A]

Great.

Which brings us to Brittany Broski.

[C]

So I don't want to put a bag on it.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Jack Black.

[C]

If it depends on how we reacted to it in the moment. If he was like, what do you want to do? I'd be like, never mind. Never mind. We're not putting a bag in your head.

[A]

Now. Could that be a scenario where Beck and I put bags on our head? Yeah.

[B]

Just kind of paved the way.

[C]

I'd be okay with putting a bag.

[A]

Okay. Meg Stalter.

[C]

I would want to put a bag on my head during that.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Sam Fragoso.

[C]

Yeah. I don't think he'd like it. I don't think he'd want to because he was kind of interviewing us.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Matt Rogers.

[C]

Matt would love to do the bag. Are you kidding? Matt would be like. I feel like Matt would want to come back on the show to do the bag.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't know if that's true.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Skyler gozanda.

[C]

Yeah. Put a bag on his head.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

What? You're not even participating. Come on. You gotta talk about who you baggered. Okay.

[A]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[B]

It's sort of.

[C]

Of.

[B]

It sort of feels like you have an emotional bag on your head right now.

[A]

I'm feeling a lot of bag edge.

[C]

Bag edge. Kyle's got a lot.

[A]

Yeah. No, I think I'm. I'm. I'm with you on most of these. I. I am. I'm sorry that I'm giving you A hard time.

[B]

Did you guys eat anything?

[A]

Now you want to go. Go back? Fran Gillespie. Mark Maron did. Probably did not eat it before driven.

[B]

We drove.

[A]

We drove together. After Mark.

[C]

I think so. I mean, I don't.

[A]

After Tim, definitely. I know.

[C]

Have been chips.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And chip protein bars.

[B]

Ooh. Okay.

[C]

And then maybe one of those little snack packs where it has, like, nuts and some bits of cheese. Like the little circular things, because that's what they have.

[A]

The pop. The popcorn pop.

[C]

Skinny pop.

[B]

Skinny pop. I want to be completely transparent. I had a chocolate quinoa cake moments before I started.

[A]

Crunchy one.

[B]

Crunchy one.

[C]

I know what you're talking about. Yeah.

[B]

I didn't. I didn't have a. I didn't like it. I don't like from here.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[C]

My wife likes the crunchy quinoa chocolate cake. Yeah, no, thank you. Not worth it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So wait, sir. Now are we going. Are we. Should we. Do you want me to finish the list, figure out who we're bagging or are we going into, like, just.

[B]

Are we ready to talk about the bird?

[C]

I think we should talk about the bird because we don't have a lot of time.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[C]

Let's talk about the bird in the room now.

[A]

Let's. Can we just. We can't hear it, but can we show or play the clip for our listeners and viewers as to how the bird came to be?

[C]

And here it is.

[A]

Oh. So when you were so. Okay, you were gonna say something tight.

[C]

You said you're gonna say something tight.

[B]

Yo.

[C]

Okay, here goes my boy Kyle.

Yo.

[A]

Those the big birds? Like vultures, Condors. They are crazy looking.

[C]

You talk about birds out here?

[A]

Yeah, I thought that would be the tight thing.

[B]

Somebody would say they are kind of scary looking.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, that was tight.

[A]

Okay, so as I.

[C]

It's probably still playing.

[A]

Okay. I figured that maybe they could just pause us and stretch out.

[C]

I thought it was like it would be a picture in picture. And it's like playing right now as they cut around to us. You know what I mean?

[D]

Okay.

[A]

All right. So we're going to be quiet for a little while longer.

[C]

Allow space.

[A]

Just let me know when you think we can talk.

[C]

Okay. So I feel like the bird clip is maybe over now.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So as I recall, you said something like. Were you about to say something tight or something like that?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I said.

Yeah. Aren't big. I'm paraphrasing. I think it was something like, aren't big birds fucking crazy? Like vultures and Condors.

[B]

I don't. I don't. If you had said big birds, I would have thought of Sesame street. And I. I don't know if you said big birds. Like, you might have said large.

[A]

Uhhuh.

[B]

Cuz I don't remember.

[C]

I do remember some kind of big bird.

[B]

Big bird. You remember hearing big bird.

[A]

Now I want to know what is everybody's problem with that comment?

[B]

I had no problem with it. I've been on record the whole time as saying, yeah, I. I liked it and I enjoyed the conversation.

[C]

Y. I think we.

[A]

You're also on the record saying it was cuttable.

[C]

I know I said if we had.

[B]

To cut one thing, that or the whole show. What was it called?

[C]

Sockenboppers.

[B]

The Sockenboppers. I said I would cut the burger.

[A]

The sock emboppers. It has to stay.

[C]

It's gotta stay.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

If it's between the two of them, I'm with you. Yeah, but are you still. But I felt like in the moment you were saying, like that was such a notable bad part of this show. You have to get it.

[C]

Cause if he actually felt like it was bad, he would wouldn't say that.

[B]

Probably I wouldn't.

[C]

It's a funny thing to be like, the bird stuff was so bad.

[A]

Do you think there's actually something that has happened that's worse that you are. Would be that you're not. You don't say. Don't say it out loud. But do you think there's actually something like. Well, I'm not gonna bring that up. Cause that actually could hurt their.

[B]

No, I mean, there's stuff I want to bring up that you said might get cut that I think should stain.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

[C]

Yeah. Right.

[B]

But no, I enjoyed every second of the experience.

[C]

Yeah, I think I enjoyed the. I even said. I think it could become its own segment or it's.

[A]

Well, the birds. I think. I actually think. Sorry. And I'm sorry.

[C]

It's on Instagram. Kyle's birds and like, photos.

[A]

We've given.

You know, a decent amount of air time to the birds that now, like, we've gotten mileage out of it that now it's arguably not cut. You can't.

[B]

You can't cut it.

[C]

No.

[B]

And something I like about the birds is it's not. It's not attached to a brand. They're not pitching anything. You're not pl. You know, it's just birds.

[C]

Just birds. And I. You know, birds are so cool and they all make different sounds. My dad's a little bit of a bird guy. He, like. He does that.

[A]

Little ones, binoculars.

[B]

Little ones binoculars.

[C]

Little ones, binoculars. Yeah.

[A]

That's what these are.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

These are when you're putting your hands.

[C]

And you kind of, like, you kind of look for the birds and then you kind of like, I saw that bird. Yeah.

[A]

I haven't seen. I haven't seen some pretty cool birds around town.

[F]

Yeah, you know, they have.

[A]

Oh, man.

There's a group of, like, I guess you'd call them parakeets maybe.

[B]

Whoa.

[C]

Oh. And. Well, they're. They're the Pasadena parrots.

[A]

So they're parrots.

[C]

They're parrots and they're green. Yes. And they have been around my house early in the morning.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

But they are like.

[F]

They're like.

[A]

These are genuine, like, tropical birds.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Were they involved in We Bought a Zoo?

[C]

Oh, yeah. Whatever happened to the animals from We Bought a Zoo? Do they get out and are they, like, running around?

[B]

I don't know. You know this. In New York, we don't really have this wide variety of birds. I mean, you guys lived there, so.

[C]

There'S nowhere for them to remember.

[A]

Pigeons, right?

[B]

Basically pigeons. Yeah, that's it. So I don't get. That's why one reason I was so excited to talk about the birds now.

[A]

You really like the birds.

[B]

I do. I really like the birds.

[C]

Yeah. We all like the birds, Kyle.

[B]

Obviously we have a ton of things in common where we're in a similar career. You know, we have friends in common. But the birds, I feel like, is something that was the first moment I felt like we truly, truly, truly connected on. Yeah. I was like, okay, I enjoy the bird stuff.

[A]

Had no idea.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And I will say I. I've been interested in. In birds and trees, like, because trees.

[B]

I'm less excited.

[C]

Yes. It's less exciting. But like, walking around with Ruby, my son, and seeing stuff and like, knowing about the things, being able to talk about.

[A]

Sometimes I see. You ever see, like, a big old hawk or an eagle?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

That is like.

[A]

O gosh.

[C]

That the wings.

[A]

Breathtaking. Or an. I like seeing an owl.

[C]

I see. What do you see an owl often? Because they're. They're not.

[A]

I've seen them a couple times. You do hear them a lot.

[B]

If you see them in the day, you might want to watch out.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because if they're out during the day, these might be something.

[A]

I'm a different type.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. Stay away from that owl doesn't know its place.

[A]

Well, thank you, guys. So much.

[C]

This was. It's been an amazing episode of what's our Podcast. Podcast. Podcast. Excuse me. A little something coming up there. I hope.

[A]

I hope our Rockettes learned a little bit more about who would get bagged.

[C]

Yeah. And. And you'll learn more about the show and us on the next Ask your friends.

[A]

Are you bagable?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or don't. I don't.

[C]

Yeah.

Yeah. Like. And see what putting a bag on your head might feel like while doing something. Like, maybe at dinner with your parents.

[A]

Be like, why you have a bag on your head?

[C]

Well, what did you say?

[A]

I thought we were talking about things you do with your bag.

[C]

I thought he said, fuck while you have a bag on your head. Is that what he said?

[B]

I think that is what he said. I just. I was trying to reclaim. I could sense we're all getting a little nervous about the bag conversation. I think we can reclaim its meaning. It doesn't have to be about fucking.

[C]

Bags are bags are bags.

[B]

It can be about anything.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's a meditative space.

[C]

It's a holy space. Yeah. Be like, excuse me, I need to get bagged.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Like, I'm gonna go bag myself.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

And it's like, I need to take space.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And. And I need a moment.

[B]

You should have the freedom to do that at any time.

[C]

So thank you for being here. Let's all get bagged.

[A]

Love you, Rockettes.

[C]

Love you, Rockettes. Thank you, Zach Cherry.

[B]

I love you Rockettes, too.

[A]

We'll be back in a minute and.

[C]

We'Ll bag you and we'll bag you later.

[A]

What's up, everybody? We're back at what's Our Podcast?

[C]

After what's Our Podcast? Podcast. Podcast.

[A]

Guess.

[C]

Just doing a little recap. That was very fun.

[A]

Zach. That was a great idea. Great idea.

[B]

Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

And definitely revisitable because we're going to be doing more shows, and I think.

[C]

That I kind of felt the desire to do a little recap at some point. So that'll be coming back. The bag will be coming back. And I do think. I don't know how Kyle's birds is gonna come up, but maybe it's when we get our own Instagram handle for the show. And every now and then then Kyle posts a bird that.

[B]

Can I just say. Can you do me a favor?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You mentioned your next guest. It's the perfect guest to do Kyle's birds with.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Tony Hawk is going to be.

[A]

I can promise you that there will be a bird mention. Okay.

[C]

Because he's Plying on that halfway.

[B]

And you don't have to, like. You don't have to tie his name. You don't have to make it like. But just have a moment.

[A]

But I do have a seg in my head I think I could use.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So like Tony Hawk. So give us. Let's talk this through.

[A]

True.

[C]

Tony Hawk's here. We're kind of talking. Kyle's like, well, now it's time for Kyle's birds.

[A]

Can I rehearse what I.

[B]

What I please?

[A]

Because I am. I. I like skateboarding. And I'm a fan of Tony Hawk. And his original skateboard decks were. It was like a hawk skull. So he's embracing it, isn't he?

[B]

The birdman.

[A]

So I'd be like, you know, like. Like, immediately you sort of embrace this iconography, right. Of. Of the hawk and of the bird. Where do you fall on birds? Are you a fan of birds?

[C]

Yes. Okay. And we are gonna. You're gonna do that.

[A]

Larger birds, like Condor, for instance. California Condor.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And he might know because San Diego Zoo, he lives in Carlsbad.

[C]

That's a big zoo. Yeah, that's an awesome zoo. So. Yeah. So everybody listening. Kyle's gonna break up about Kyle's birds. In our next episode with Tony Hawk.

[A]

We'Ll talk about some favorite birds. But this. Zach, really, I feel like, you know, I've gotten to run into you a couple times and interact in very short stints, but really a true pleasure.

[B]

And now we know. Now we know. We always have a go to topic.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Next time I see you, the birds are the bags.

[C]

Birds and the bags.

[B]

I was thinking birds, but yeah, bag.

[C]

We can talk and we could be in a room. We could be. Well, we could talk about birds and we could be like, we. Which. Who would you bag here?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Who do you think would want to.

[A]

Bag or which of the birds?

[C]

Of the people.

[B]

Of the people.

[C]

We could also be like, what bird do you think they are? Would you bag them?

[A]

Can we say. Can we clarify something on the bags? Like, the bag. It doesn't mean.

[C]

It's not a bad thing.

[A]

It's not a bad. It's like.

[B]

That's what I was trying to say.

[A]

Exactly. It's like.

[C]

I think it could be like, somebody who's like, game and has a good sense of humor and is fun and not.

[A]

I can imagine this going viral.

[C]

Like, you go like, it's open. Yeah.

[A]

It's like you hang out with some people. Like, hey, bag yourself. Yeah, I'm bagged.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then they're bagged for a while.

[C]

Yeah. It's just like a little bag take. Take away the whole bag. Like, the negative connotation of it. It's fun.

[B]

There should be no stigma to b. To bagging self bagging.

[C]

It'd be so nice to be like, I'm not having fun in this moment. Excuse me. You just need a quick bag yourself for, like, 10 minutes. Take a deep breath and be like, I'm ready to come back. Yeah. It's been so nice having you here. I had a absolute blast.

[B]

Wonderful time.

[C]

Can't wait to see what you do next.

[A]

Yeah. Hope your time in LA is. Is decent. Maybe we'll see you around. And keep crushing it.

[C]

Keep bagging.

[B]

Keep. Stay. Stay grinding.

[C]

Stay grinding, brother.

[B]

Remember when we talked about grinding earlier?

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

Yeah. It's good. It's good. Well, that's it.

[A]

Thanks, guys. Rocco.

[C]

Roccoettes.

[B]

I think I do want to just say I think the Rockettes are kind of. To the. Specifically the fans of me on this podcast, I'm going to claim the Rockettes.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Because they. Because I was here for their genesis.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

So Rocco's, like, the whole show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Rockettes. Also like the show, but they also like me on the show.

[C]

Okay, that's great.

[B]

Great.

[C]

Yeah. There it is.

[B]

So shout out to my Rockettes out there.

[C]

Yeah. Dude, look at that.

[B]

Oh, this is me. Probably shout out to my. My Rockettes. I love you. Keep kicking.

[C]

Shout out to Zach's Rockettes. And shout out to our Roccos. Keep kicking.

[B]

And the Rockettes like you also.

[C]

Yeah. To be clear.

[A]

And we should also say this is Rockettes. This is not the Radio City musical. This is spelled differently because it's R, O, C, C. Yes. E, T, T, E, S. Yeah. Which I don't believe. I feel like there's probably a.

[B]

There's a K. There's a K. Yeah.

[D]

What about Bagheads?

[B]

Bagheads. I'm letting. I'm letting that go.

[C]

That's for the show. The show needs that. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

All right, well, we'll see you next week, Roccos and Rockettes.

[B]

Well, the Rockettes will tune in every week, but they are kind of mostly.

[C]

Mostly there for you.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

And so. I'm sorry. Now. Okay, hang on.

[C]

Okay, so wait, I thought the show was.

[A]

Okay, so now are these people who. Who were listening to the podcast before, they're like, ooh, Zach Cherry's gonna be on this podcast? Like, are they.

[C]

I think if you started listening to the podcast, because of.

[B]

They have to be Roccos. They have to be Rockos, you start.

[A]

Out as a Rocco.

[B]

No, they're still Roccos. They have to be Roccos. Yeah, they like the show. They love you guys.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

But to be a Rockette, it's kind of more specifically about me on the show.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Okay. Word.

[A]

Well, please shout yourself out if you're a Rockette. We want to know in the comments and go ahead. And do you have anything you want.

[B]

To plug, by the way?

[A]

Way.

[B]

I'm just.

[C]

Probably just.

[A]

You have an Instagram or a Twitter or anything like X.

[B]

Okay, okay, I'll say this. There's a. There's a fake Instagram. That's not me.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

So. So leave that alone.

[A]

We can't. Are you. You wouldn't want people to flood that with Rockette stuff.

[C]

I would. I would. Okay.

[B]

Make yourself known on any Instagram you can find that's at all associated with me.

[C]

Me.

[B]

It's not me. But if you could let them know you're a Rockette, I would love that.

[A]

Yeah, it'd be nice for whoever's running that account to, like, have to deal.

[C]

With, like, yeah, who are the rockets.

[A]

And why are we gonna swarm it?

[C]

And so, yeah, other than that, Zach was just in this episode of what's Our Podcast? So if you haven't listened to it, go ahead and check this episode out. Or if you have watched it, go ahead and check it out again. And thanks. Yeah, thanks for being here. All right, bye.

[A]

What's Our Podcast is a Headgun podcast created and hosted by Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney.

[C]

The show is produced and engineered by Richelle Chen and Anya Kanofskaya with production support from Ali Khan and Ryan Lutzow.

[A]

Our executive producer is Anya Kanevskaya. Katie Moose is our VP of content at Headgum. Our theme music is made by us.

[C]

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[D]

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I'm really sorry.

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I was so. Okay. I was trying to be supportive.

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Yeah.

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Reading through seems pretty hard right now.

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It's a lot.

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