Love Is Blind’s Jordan Opens Up About His Shocking Split from Amber

Summary

What's the Reality? – Love Is Blind’s Jordan Opens Up About His Shocking Split from Amber

Host: Amber Desiree (AD, aka AD)
Guest: Jordan (Love Is Blind Season 10)
Date: March 12, 2026

---

Episode Overview

In this candid and revealing episode, host Amber Desiree sits down with Jordan from Season 10 of Love Is Blind. Fresh off the reunion, Jordan opens up about his headline-making split from Amber, the realities of their relationship, and the personal journey he’s been on before, during, and after the show. Together, they dig into what went right, what went wrong, and the truth that wasn’t seen on TV – from love in the pods, family challenges, tense break-ups, reality TV fame, and moving forward. The episode is heartfelt, honest, and unfiltered, full of vulnerable insights and moments of self-discovery.

---

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Life After Love Is Blind (01:32 – 02:47)

• Relief After Airing: Jordan shares a sense of relief now the world has seen the season and he can move on from the secrecy and speculation.
  • “Yeah, I feel a lot of relief, I would say… It’s been a crazy year to think that, you know. Oh, it's like exactly one year from when we started… So, yeah, I'm feeling good, though.” (01:37)
• Reflects on the intensity and surreal feeling of being on reality TV and having private life exposed.

---

2. Journey to the Show and Pod Experience (03:13 – 05:01)

• How Jordan Was Cast: A friend who was considering the show (Brandon) referred Jordan after deciding not to continue.
  • “A friend of mine, my friend Brandon, was interviewing for the show… and he decided that he didn't want to do it and said, 'You should get a hold of this guy.'” (03:28)
• Pod Connections: Had a strong early connection with Alyssa before things shifted to Amber.
  • “Alyssa and I had a good connection… She was my number one for a while, actually.” (04:00–04:16)
• Unseen Moments: Wishes more of his pod time with Amber was shown, especially the funnier, lighter moments involving snacks and his mom’s famous cookies.
  • “My scenes are pretty funny. I was always eating something.” (04:44)
  • Cookies were real and loved – Jordan’s “mom’s recipe.” (04:50)

---

3. Openness to Family & Kids (05:02 – 06:08)

• Jordan entered open to parenthood but was initially hesitant about dating someone with a child.
  • “If I'm going to raise a child, I would like it to be my own. Obviously, we saw that… that changed a little bit.” (05:07)
• The connection with Emma, Amber’s daughter, helped reshape his outlook and opened his heart to the idea of being a father figure.

---

4. Off-Camera Dynamics and Early Challenges (06:16 – 08:15)

• Mexico Getaway: Trip was easygoing, full of downtime and whale-watching, little to fight about.
  • “Mexico was a good time. I don’t think we argued at all…” (06:16)
• Meeting Emma’s Dad: He got along well with Amber’s ex, expressing surprise at how amicable their meeting was.
  • “Honestly, it was great. I really liked the guy…” (06:48)

---

5. First Disagreements & Communication Styles (08:10 – 09:11)

• Tension arose when Amber overheard Jordan discussing nerves about meeting Emma with other cast members.
  • “She overheard that and I do feel like her and I had discussed some of those first. But in that moment… she did not appreciate that.” (07:25)
• Early dates were sometimes frustrating for Jordan, as he felt their conversations lacked depth initially.
  • “The first three dates, she just kept like talking about her patients at work and I'm like, what are we talking about?” (08:38)

---

6. Guardedness, Trust, and Emotional Baggage (09:15 – 14:20)

• Amber’s trust issues surfaced repeatedly, which Jordan empathized with but ultimately found draining and unsustainable.
  • “For me, that was… a breaking point because after the show was done, that just got… it got worse.” (12:41)
  • “I'm empathetic for that… but I also don’t want to be on the receiving end of that either.” (12:54)
• Meeting Emma eased parenting anxieties and led to heartwarming moments; Jordan describes Emma as “really shy at first” but quick to bond (13:21).

---

7. The Wedding Day and Immediate Aftermath (14:20 – 17:01)

• Pre-Wedding Nerves: Jordan describes it as “the most stressed out I've ever been in my entire life.”
  • “That's for sure the most nervous and most stressed I think I've ever been.” (14:20)
• He considered saying “no” at the altar, driven by real concerns, but emotion and the atmosphere swayed his decision.
  • “I thought, you know, I was going to say no, that we need to work on it… In hindsight… that was 2020.” (14:52)
• Seeing Amber’s daughter Emma at the ceremony added pressure.
  • “Yeah, she was staring at me like, ‘you better say yes.’” (16:12)

---

8. The Breakup: What Went Wrong & Why (17:01 – 22:53)

• Living Situation Never Settled: Commute/living arrangements post-show (a one-hour drive) quickly became a point of friction.
  • “We didn’t really talk in detail about living situation, which is a pretty big deal.” (17:07)
• List of issues included: strained daily logistics, feeling underappreciated, repeated communication problems.
• Jordan mentions an embarrassing incident at a friend’s wedding (not detailed) as a trigger indicating deeper, unresolved problems.
  • “There were more… incidents where I’m seeing things… communication styles… And… it just became more tough.” (17:58)
• Jordan’s breaking point:
  • “For sure. Like, there’s a certain way you don’t speak to somebody that you care about, you know? So I was… good.” (19:43)
• Communication completely broke down, causing him to feel unable to be himself.
  • “I wasn’t comfortable really feeling or expressing how I felt.” (20:21)

---

9. Divorce Process and Where They Stand Now (22:21 – 23:24)

• Jordan initiated the legal process, has been waiting on paperwork from Amber.
  • “Got my stuff sent in, got it paid for… We're still waiting for Amber to send her stuff to the lawyer.” (22:26)
• Minimal post-breakup contact ― only to complete the legal process.

---

10. Moving On, New Love, and Happiness (23:01 – 24:08)

• Jordan started dating Sophia, whom he met through mutual friends at a party.
  • “I started seeing somebody, like, mid to late November. And that's been amazing. She shows up for me. Like, she's super sweet.” (23:01)
  • “Her name’s Sophia. Such a little cutie.” (24:06)

---

11. Being a Reality TV Star (25:47 – 27:05)

• Has only watched a small part of his own season, finding the experience surreal and awkward.
  • “I’ve watched like one episode… I was like, OK, I can listen, but I can’t see. It was way too weird seeing myself.” (25:50)
• Appreciates the sometimes overwhelming support from fans.
  • “For a dude who, like, eats cheeseburgers and chicken wings, the amount of support and people that want more. I’m like, this is pretty cool.” (26:47)

---

12. Reflections, Regrets & Takeaways (27:12 – 29:02)

• Mixed feelings about whether he should have said "I do," admits a “no” might have been fairer but doesn’t outright regret his choices.
  • “To say that I regret it, like, I don’t know.” (27:25)
• Recaps the reunion: Devonte’s bombshell, emotional moments among the cast, and Amber’s explosive reaction (“not surprised”—this was her pattern).

---

13. Handling Bonds and Difficult Goodbyes (29:24 – 30:05)

• Jordan expresses sadness about losing the connection with Emma, Amber’s daughter, and admits there's no playbook for these kinds of breakups.
  • “I felt like it was a little weaponized towards me, to be honest. I didn’t really appreciate that. But… I feel awful because I’d formed a really strong bond with Emma.” (29:49)

---

14. Maintaining Friendships from the Show (31:40 – 33:00)

• Jordan has kept close bonds with several castmates; the “men’s lounge” was a highlight, providing needed camaraderie.
  • “It is nice to have people that were there… a lot of fun memories to talk about.” (32:45)

---

15. “Ick or Stick” Game (34:27 – 37:14)

• Lighthearted segment where Jordan shares what’s a dealbreaker (“ick”) or a keeper (“stick”):
  • Not liking cookies? Ick. (35:53)
  • Career-driven? Stick, with caveats. (36:05)
  • Compares you to exes? Big ick—“that one's personal.” (35:26)

---

16. Final Takeaways on Love Is Blind (38:13 – 39:22)

• “It was amazing. I think… I had a lot of personal growth. One thing helped me a lot with dating overall, because it made me a lot more mindful and thoughtful about the things that I’m asking and just being more in the moment… I felt kind of brought back to life in some ways… It was great.” (38:13)
• Empathy, self-awareness, and new friendships were his main takeaways. He ends in a positive place, grateful for both the lessons and the connections.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On his nerves at the reunion:
  “I could barely get any words. I was like about to throw up.” (02:04)
• On Amber’s memes and viral moments:
  “I’ve been enjoying it.” (06:08)
• On his breaking point:
  “For sure. Like, there’s a certain way you don’t speak to somebody that you care about, you know?” (19:43)
• On embracing new love:
  “She shows up for me. Like, she’s super sweet.” (23:23)
• On the reunion bombshell:
  “Devonte dropping the bomb… That was like, the big stunner.” (28:11)
• On cookie haters:
  “Serial killers, disgusting murderers don’t like cookies.” – AD (35:55)

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Post-show feelings & nerves: 01:32
• Pod journey & early connections: 03:13
• Openness to having kids: 05:02
• First argument, communication differences: 08:10
• Amber’s trust issues & growing distance: 09:15, 12:41
• Wedding day and decision doubts: 14:20, 14:52
• Breakup, living logistics, and separation: 17:01, 17:58, 19:43
• Divorce process update: 22:21
• New relationship with Sophia: 23:01
• Watching the show, fan reaction: 25:47, 26:47
• Should he have said I do? 27:12
• Amber’s reaction at reunion: 29:02
• Losing bond with Emma: 29:24
• Cast friendships & “the lounge”: 31:40, 32:45
• “Ick or Stick” game: 34:27
• Reflections & main takeaways: 38:13

---

Overall Tone and Style

True to the spirit of reality TV, the episode balances vulnerability, humor, and heartfelt reflection with moments of light banter and playful exchanges. Amber Desiree guides the conversation with empathy and directness, while Jordan offers introspection and candor about his journey and the lessons learned.

---

This episode is a must-listen for anyone who wants the real story behind the headlines, fans of Love Is Blind, or those curious about the intersections of fame, love, risk, and personal growth.

Transcript

[A]

Thy ticket, lady Jennifer of Coolidge. Well, many thanks, good sir. Here is my Discover card. They accept Discover at Renaissance fairs? Yeah, they do here. Discover is accepted at the places I love to shop. Get it with the times. With the times. You're playing the loot. Yeah. And it sounds pretty good, right?

[B]

Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.

[A]

Walmart Express Delivery can get what you need delivered in as fast as an hour. Whether it's baby formula, when you're down to the last scoop, pet food before the bowl runs, empty batteries for a dead remote or a last minute gift, it is handled. Try Walmart Express Delivery today and get free delivery with promo code Express promotion valid for First Express delivery order $50 minimum, subject to availability restrictions apply. What's the Reality? What's the reality? All right. Hello, hello and welcome to another episode of what's the Reality? It's your girl ad. And as you can see, I have taken the show on the road, y', all, today. I am so excited for our guest. With me today, I have Jourdan from season 10 of Love is Blind, fresh off the reunion. So we're getting the tea piping hot. Hi, Jordan.

[B]

Hi, Adi. Hi.

[A]

How are you?

[B]

I'm good. How are you doing?

[A]

I'm doing so, so good. Welcome to what's the Reality.

[B]

Did you having me?

[A]

Yes, of course. How are you feeling now that the show and everything has aired and it's out there?

[B]

Yeah, I feel a lot of relief, I would say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's been a crazy year to think that, you know. Oh, it's like exactly one year from when we started, so that much in a year. It's a, it's a lot.

[A]

So it feels like you had a lot in a year. You had one hell of a year, A whole lot.

[B]

So, yeah, I'm feeling good, though.

[A]

Okay, good. When you came out on the reunion and you were so nervous and we were all like, we love you, so nervous.

[B]

Yeah, well, it's like, I don't, I couldn't tell you the last time I've probably ever spoken in front of like that many people, like 200 people or something, so I could barely get any words. I was like about to throw up.

[A]

But how cool was it that you had like everyone that had been in a similar situation?

[B]

I think that made it better. Like once I just looked at the crowd and started looking at people's faces, I was like, okay. And I talked a little bit and just got my Feet under me. I was like, okay, I can. I can speak now. Yeah.

[A]

You're so fun. Okay. At the reunion, we found out that you and Amber are no longer together and are getting a divorce, which is honestly very, very devastating to hear. I know many viewers, myself included, were rooting for you both. How are you feeling about all of it?

[B]

You know, there's a lot of thought and deliberation that went. That went into that. I think there were a lot of opportunities for it not to end that way now, you know, now that it's. I mean, you know, that was like eight. Eight months ago or something. So now it's like, I'm just ready to move on and get done with it. Get the paperwork signed. Needs to send her stuff in so we can get this finished.

[A]

Okay. Before we get stuff done, Sheridan said, wrap it up. Before we get into that, let's go back to the beginning of your journey. Tell about your journey to love is blind. How did you get involved? How'd you get on the show?

[B]

A friend of mine, my friend Brandon, was interviewing for the show or. Yeah, interviewing for the show, and he decided that he didn't want to do it and said, you should. You should get a hold of this guy. And so they sent me a DM and like, hey, do you want to chat? Like, sure, I'll check it out.

[A]

That's funny. Had you watched the show before?

[B]

I saw, I think, the first and second season, and that was when they came out. So, you know, I knew what it was.

[A]

Yeah, but that was eight, nine seasons ago. Yeah. We didn't get to see too much of your experience in the pods. Did you have any other connections besides Amber?

[B]

Yeah, Alyssa and I had a good connection.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, we were. It was, I think, a funny relationship. We were just laughing the entire time.

[A]

Okay, so was she like, on your. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5?

[B]

She was. She was my number one for a while, actually.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then I think the conversations just kind of got stagnant after a little while. Whereas, you know, Amber and I was, you know, picking up a lot of. Picking up a lot of.

[A]

Steve, do you wish more of your pod relationship with Amber was shown?

[B]

I mean, yeah, I think it encapsulated a lot, but there was so much. You know, you put so much time into that. So I think that, you know, my scenes are pretty funny. I was always eating something.

[A]

Right. Speaking of eating and be completely honest, were those cookies as good as everybody said they were?

[B]

I love them. It's my mom's recipe.

[A]

Oh, you Know.

[B]

Yeah, I always ask for them, for sure. That's so funny. I should have brought you some of those today, right? I don't like to fly with food.

[A]

Okay, Next time.

[B]

Next time. I got you covered.

[A]

Thank you. Before meeting Amber, where did you stand on having children? Let's get right into it.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So my big thing is, like, having kids. I've always been open to it. I went into it not wanting to meet somebody that, like, already had a child because I'm like, my. My rationale was, if I'm going to raise a child, I would like it to be. To be my own. Obviously, we saw that. That. That changed a little bit.

[A]

Yeah. So you wanted them, is what you're saying.

[B]

I was. I was open to. I was kind of undecided through this and, you know, really bonding with. With her daughter. I'm like, yeah, I think it'd be great to be a dad.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I think you'd make a great one.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

You seem pretty nice. I don't know, but one of the most viral moments from the show has been Amber's posing behind the sliding doors before the reveal. Could you see her posing like that in real time?

[B]

You could have our doors open at the same time.

[A]

Oh, my God. How was it like watching it back on tv?

[B]

It was funny because I'm thinking, like, does she know that I can't see that?

[A]

Or she was doing. Have you seen the memes? They're hilarious.

[B]

There are some good ones.

[A]

There's some really good ones.

[B]

I've been enjoying it.

[A]

Yeah. It didn't seem. Seem like you and Amber had any problems in Mexico, which is good. What was the trip like for you two as a couple?

[B]

Yeah, actually, Mexico was. It was a good time. I don't think we argued at all during. During Mexico?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, you spend quite a bit of time in the. In the hotel room, like, constantly giving room service. There's not. Not much to do. Like, sit on the balcony.

[A]

Yeah. Not much to fight about.

[B]

You know, you get to see whales every morning. That was awesome. So. No, it was good.

[A]

I love that. So off camera, you met Amber's ex and Emma's dad off camera. What was that like?

[B]

Honestly, it was great. I really liked the guy. We got along pretty well at first. I think he came in reserve. Like, he did not want any part of being on the show or anything like that. But we started talking and found some. Some common ground and, like, similar interests and things started to open up. And, you know, at that point, we were Friendly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So it was. It went about as good as it could have.

[A]

Yeah, I can imagine. You had your first disagreement after the pod meetup when Amber overheard you talking to the guys that you were scared to meet her daughter. Walk us through that night. Cause it was a little all over the place.

[B]

Yeah, I think I was so Vic is a guy that I trust a lot. He was one that I went to for just, you know, to confide in through know pods and then afterwards. And so I was telling you my worries of moving forward, which I think were pretty reasonable, you know, never been a dad or obviously never been married. So I was just voicing where some of my concerns were or fears, you know, of. Of what that could look like. Of like, I don't know, what if it goes wrong? Just kind of voicing some of those out. She overheard that and I do feel like her and I had discussed some of those first. But in that moment, the fact that I don't know me, I was discussing with the guys. She did not. Did not appreciate that.

[A]

Yeah. How long did it take for her to come back and talk to you

[B]

after like two days.

[A]

Two days.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you reach out to her at

[B]

all or the producer producers dead, which was nice.

[A]

Okay. You said you're trying to share your feelings with Amber.

[B]

No, that's okay.

[A]

You're fine. You said you were trying to share your feelings with Amber, but it felt like a one way street. Yeah.

[B]

The first, I'd say like the first three dates, you know, she just kept like talking about her patients at work and I'm like, what are we talking about? And so I think maybe it was our third date and I was, I was going to not put her on my list for the next day and I was like, you have to show me something here. Like, I think that there's more substance to you. I think that there's more depth.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You gotta give me a little bit, you know. And then the next day she did. So I was like, okay, like we're making. Making some progress here. Yeah, yeah. I heard about a lot of patience at work and things like that.

[A]

Just a lot for date three, when time is of the essence.

[B]

Truly.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. It seemed like Amber was pretty guarded and carried some trust issues from past relationships. And at times it felt like that may have been taking out on you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was that something that continued to come up through your relationship? This episode of what's the Reality is sponsored by K18 Hair. We put our hair through a lot. Heat, bleach and chemical treatments that leave it pretty damaged. Well, here's the good news. Get hair like new in four minutes with the K18 leave in molecular hair mask. And for breakthrough results, the K18 mask gets molecular with patented K18, the greatest discovery in hair history, K18 peptide actually reverses hair damage from bleach, color and chemical services and heat at the deepest molecular level. K18 has been breaking rules and records since day one with biotech powered formulas that pick up where your hair's biology leaves off. There's no need for 100 different hair products. Just a few targeted K18 ones can make a real difference in your hair health. Plus, K18 products are vegan, sustainable and cruelty free too. You'll flip for hair like new. Shop the mask at Sephora or visit k18hair.com and use code reality for 10% off your first order. That's k18hair.com code reality psst. It's me. Your sense of adventure calling. I'm not just calling, I'm insisting. Insisting you stop daydreaming and start planning to get you and me out there. Out to Southwest Idaho during secret season. That time of year in March and April when snow stops dropping and flowers start popping. A perfect time for hiking, fishing, kayaking and the food. Phenomenal. The only thing missing? The crowds. Start in Boise, then explore beyond the city. Let's Visit Idaho. Visit SouthwestIdaho.org Quint is all about elevated essentials that feel effortless. Designed for layering and mixing, each piece helps build a timeless wardrobe made to last with versatile silhouettes and thoughtful details. They're the kind of styles you wear again and again. They've got wardrobe staples with quality that's made to last 100%. Cotton sweaters Premium denim made with stretch for all day comfort luxe cotton cashmere blends for the perfect changing seasons. Quint's works directly with safe ethical factories and cuts out the middlemen. So you're not paying for brand markup, just high quality clothing. Okay, I have to put you guys onto something. Did you know Quince also has a full beauty and wellness section? I'm talking fragrances, candles, self care staples and of course it's all at the amazing quality that you expect from them. I recently ordered their Bois de Central perfume and I am obsessed. It's warm, sophisticated and it actually lasts all day, which we love. What I really appreciate is that Quince works with master perfumers and uses high quality ingredients so the scent evolves beautifully throughout the day instead of just fading away. If you've been Wanting to elevate your fragrance game? Definitely. Check out Quince's beauty section. Refresh your wardrobe with quince. Go to quince.com WTR for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That's Q-U-N-E.com WTR free shipping and 365 day returns. Quints.com WTR

[B]

yeah, for me, that was. That was kind of a breaking point because after the show was done, that just got. It got worse. You know, there were times where I think being around some of the other couples, maybe it was easier to have people around to talk to talk through some of that stuff. But, yeah, that stuff just kept coming up, and it was, you know. You know, I'm empathetic for that because, you know, you don't want to see anybody go through those experiences, be mistreated in relationships. And so that sucks. But I also don't want to be on the receiving end of that either.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So there was some healing that needed to be done.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you did finally get to meet Emma, what was that meeting like?

[B]

You know, she was really shy at first, but I brought her some little presents, and so she warmed up to me, and by the end, she was, like, trying to climb on me. Oh. Aw.

[A]

How old is she?

[B]

Seven.

[A]

Seven.

[B]

She's eight now.

[A]

That's a great age. Oh, my God.

[B]

We had fun.

[A]

Did it ease any of your anxieties about becoming a father figure?

[B]

Yeah, honestly, it was like. Yeah, it was, like, eye opening. Like, I could definitely see myself doing this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, before, I was pretty uncertain. I just didn't know. I have nephews, too, and I obviously, I get along with those guys great.

[A]

But you're not gonna be their dad. Yeah.

[B]

In. It was my first time, like, you know, being that kind of role for, like, a little girl, too. Like, she's so sweet. It was like, oh, man, being a girl, that would probably be pretty cool, you know. Aw.

[A]

I have a little girl. So every time anybody brings up a little girl, I just. I lose my train of thought. Yeah. Now I want my daughter. So the day of your wedding, you were visibly very nervous, and even your family had expressed some concerns. What was going through your head?

[B]

That was, like, the most stressed out I've ever been in my entire life. That was. That was the most. Yeah, the most nervous. That's for sure. The most nervous and most stressed I think I've ever been, where it's like, you're running through these thoughts of the good times, that you've had positive conversations, but then there's very real concerns on the other end. So that's. All of that is going through my mind. And then it's like, you add in all the people that are going to be there. It's a lot. Yeah.

[A]

Did you know your decision going into that day?

[B]

No, I was. I. I thought, you know, I was going to say no, that we need to work on it, and, like, there's some things that we need to figure out, which, in hindsight, you know, that was 2020. Good thinking.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, it could have avoided a lot of trouble, but.

[A]

But you were following your heart.

[B]

I was, yeah. You know, in that moment, you know, with all the emotion, you. You look out and see every. Smiling and, you know, when she's right in front of you, remembering all those fun times, you know, and then you

[A]

didn't want to kill the mood. You got married, so you didn't kill the mood. So you can make everyone happy. What?

[B]

No, no, no. You know, you're feeling. It's like a lot of positive emotion, you know?

[A]

So were you surprised when you saw Amber's brother say he didn't think you were ready and that he thought you were going to say no?

[B]

No. Because I think that we had had that conversation. Um, you know, so I guess I wasn't really surprised.

[A]

Yeah. Were you surprised to see Emma there? Did that add any pressure to you?

[B]

Yeah, it did add a little bit of pressure because I wasn't sure that she was going to be there. And, you know, I could see on her face that she was like, yeah, she was kind of having a tough day.

[A]

So I. I remember watching and being like, that is going to be a lot to take in if you say no.

[B]

Yeah. I was standing up. I was standing at the altar for, like, 20 minutes before she came up.

[A]

Looking at her little face.

[B]

Yeah, she was staring at me like, you better say yes. Like, the entire place just staring at me. Yeah. Nothing to do up there. Stand.

[A]

And everybody's just judging, watching.

[B]

And that kind of cooled me down a little bit, though, where I was like, okay, now I'm used to the environment. We can. We can continue.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. After you both said, I do, what was the wedding like? What were you feeling in those moments?

[B]

You know, I was. I was feeling really good. Like, feeling good about the choice. The wedding was. It was a blast. You know, you have all of your closest friends and family there, and we had. I mean, we had a great time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It was a good. Yeah, it was fun.

[A]

I didn't make it to the wedding. Not all. Thank God. Thank God I made it to my. My other wedding day. That's all that matters.

[B]

That's all that matters.

[A]

Okay, so let's shift a little bit to back to the breakup.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What happened after the wedding day? Can you walk us through how things unfolded and how you got to where

[B]

you are now after the wedding day? So obviously the first thing is, you know, we didn't really like talk in detail about living situation, which is a pretty big deal.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I did voice to her a lot of times, and I think it's even on the show twice. Like, I do not want to move over and I really don't. On top of that, you know, I still had my lease. So that's like. That's like the first hurdle and then you're driving back and forth. You know, I was going during the week and on weekends it becomes a lot.

[A]

So this is the 45 minute drive that we were.

[B]

It's an hour. Okay. Amber speeds.

[A]

Oh, my God. That's a lot of time to shave off.

[B]

She likes fast cars.

[A]

Yeah. That's funny. You're funny. Okay, go ahead. So how did we get here?

[B]

You know, I think adding in the stressors of life, like back to your job, you know? Yeah, just like normal stressors of life. And for her, back to taking care of Emma. There's a lot all at once, and I think they just kind of started unraveling. You know, I spoke about the reunion. There was an incident in my friend's wedding. I'm not going to get into detail about it because she's not here to defend herself. And I don't think that my goals and to like smear her, make her look bad, you know. But there's an incident for me, it was really embarrassing at that moment. I knew that I can't move it yet. Like, there are some things that have to be ironed out. So that was just for me, a symptom of a bigger. A bigger issue. There were more for me, more of those kind of incidents where I'm seeing things, things that maybe we talked about in the pods, like communication styles that she had said she moved on from. And I'm seeing this play out with me and I'm like, man, it just became more tough. We had more of these incidents, you know, not showing up to things. And so I did start to kind of drift away. I. I didn't feel appreciated. I was hurt often. And so I was like I. It got to a point where there was like, one last thing, and I was like, this is. I'm. Yeah.

[A]

All set.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Do you think time could have.

[B]

I'm not going to wait around to see if you decide that maybe it's time to change some things. You know, we made a decision to get married really fast. Four months of some cyclical behavior.

[A]

I was like, you've seen all you need to see.

[B]

Yeah. For sure. For sure. Like, there's a certain way you don't speak to somebody that you care about, you know? So I was. I was good. I was good.

[A]

Trying to say, get me out of here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At the reunion, you kept saying the relationship was toxic. What did you mean by that?

[B]

Again, the communication completely broke down. Like, I. I didn't really feel. I want to be careful with. With my words a little bit, but I guess I. There was. For me, the way I felt was that there's a lot of tension. A lot. And so that caused me to. I wasn't comfortable really feeling or expressing how I felt.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really feel comfortable like, being myself. And for me, that's a huge, like, light going off my head of, did you are in a situation that is not good.

[A]

Can't do that for the rest of your life.

[B]

100. There's no way to live your life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So, you know, I chose to look out for. For my well being, my. My mental health as well. Like, I'm not going to sacrifice, you know. Yeah. Myself to. To see if this could work out for what.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

How was your conversation. How did it go with Amber when you told her that you wanted a divorce?

[B]

I would also say not great. That was not a great conversation. You know, it started off, we just kind of spoke about it. You know, towards the end, she. We had talked about counseling, like, after, like, the first month, which I think that was a sign where, you know, there's things to work through. Yeah. Because it's a. It's a uncommon scenario to get married that way. So talking about counseling in the first month was also probably a red flag.

[A]

Right.

[B]

For sure. But, you know, at that time, you know, when I suggested that I'm, like, hit with an ultimatum of, you know, I'll go if, you know, it's like, either you want to make this better or not. And then at the end, she said to me, she seemed indifferent about the counseling. Like, didn't think that that was something that would work. And, like, it was a waste of time at the end. Then she really wanted to go to Counseling. But at that point, like, you know, both people have to want the relationship to work to go to counseling. Like, I'm not gonna go through the motions. Like, I. I know that this is not right for me. Like, we're. We're not good together.

[A]

Could you tell that she was, like, genuinely fighting for it, or did it kind of seem like going. Just going.

[B]

No, she was. She was visibly upset, for sure. I do think that it was pretty devastating. Neither one of us wanted it to go that way, but there are plenty of opportunities for it to not. To not go that way. So I would say, yeah, I think she was. She was genuinely, genuinely upset about it.

[A]

Where are you guys now in the process of divorce?

[B]

So you mentioned earlier. Yeah. So when was that? I found a lawyer in, like, November. Got my stuff sent in, got it paid for, and then I sent all my stuff in. We're still waiting for Amber to send her stuff to the lawyer. So then we gotta sign, like, a financial affidavit and then sign the final paperwork. So she said she would do it this week.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Speaking of.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But, yeah, it's like, you know, we gotta move on.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you dating? Well, in your process?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we were. We ended things in August of 2025, and I think the rest of the year texted one time, and that was about the lawyer. Yeah. You know, and so I started seeing somebody, like, mid to late November. And that's been amazing. It was like, yeah, she shows up for me. Like, she's super sweet.

[A]

Okay. That's good news. A little tea. How did you meet your lovely girlfriend?

[B]

Yeah, so we met. We met at a party. We got introduced from a mutual friend, hit it off. She's a foodie.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so that was probably the bulk of our first conversation, so I asked her out. After that, she. She added me on Instagram that I slid in a video. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Okay. DM slide. What'd you say?

[B]

Hey,

[A]

sometimes that's all it takes is a high. I'm not mad at it.

[B]

Yeah. And so it's been. It's been fantastic ever since.

[A]

I love that. I love that. I love, love. I'm always rooting for love. Rooting for your happiness.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

What's her name?

[B]

Her name's Sophia.

[A]

Hey, Sophia.

[B]

Such a little cutie.

[A]

Had you been in contact with Amber? I know you kind of said you stopped talking. You text one time. Was that it before the reunion? It's me, your sense of adventure, calling. I'm not just calling. I'm insisting Insisting you stop daydreaming and start planning to get you me, out there. Out to Southwest Idaho during secret season. That time of year in March and April when snow stops dropping and flowers start popping. A perfect time for hiking, fishing, kayaking. And the food. Phenomenal. The only thing missing, the crowds. Start in Boise, then explore beyond the city. Let's Visit Idaho. Visit SouthwestIdaho.org if you need a new

[B]

appliance, this is your sign. Shop at Lowe's now to get up to 35% off and next day delivery on hundreds of major appliances. A new appliance now means an easier to do list later. Our best lineup is at Lowe's, valid through 318, while supplies last selection varies by location. Order by 4pm Available Monday through Saturday. Subject to availability, fees, exclusions and restrictions apply. See Lowes.com appliancedelivery for more details. Maybe. Maybe twice. Also, probably about the divorce. So, yeah, we were not. We were not in contact. We didn't discuss how that was going to go. So I think that's why I was so visibly nervous. Like, the reunion was. That was a day that, like, I was losing sleep over not knowing how that conversation was going to go. Like, not really knowing, you know, what I was going to be getting. So, yeah, I was nervous.

[A]

What has your experience been, like, watching the show?

[B]

I've watched like one episode. It was. I saw the trailer and I heard my voice. I was like, I don't like that.

[A]

Are you gonna go back and watch it at all?

[B]

My girlfriend made me watch a couple episodes with her. And so I'm like, like, covering my eyes and like, I can't. I was like, okay, I can listen, but I can't see. Like, I just can't. It was way too weird seeing myself. It was so strange. It was so strange.

[A]

You need to take the time and watch what you did.

[B]

I've been getting the memes. I've been getting the pictures of me eating the tacos. Like, I know about all of that.

[A]

Watch it. Watch it.

[B]

I watched the last three episodes.

[A]

Okay. You were forced to.

[B]

There was a really funny interview in the last episode or the second last episode from me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

After the bachelor party, I think maybe I had a couple cocktails. It was funny.

[A]

How are you feeling about the fans reactions to you and your relationship on the show?

[B]

I mean, I am like, for a dude who, like, eats cheeseburgers and chicken wings, like, the amount of support and people that, like, want more, I'm like, this is pretty cool. Yeah. Like, I'm kind Of stunned that people are enjoying it.

[A]

Yeah. You're getting a very warm.

[B]

I am, yeah. So that's. That's. I mean, it's really cool, but it's also very strange, you know, it's a big change.

[A]

I can imagine, looking back. Do you regret saying I do? Is there anything you would have done

[B]

differently, you know, to say, like, regret and you can look back at things and it's never going to change it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think maybe I should have said no and did what her and I discussed. I guess it wasn't fair of me to blindside her because I did. And down the road, that did cause more trouble and, you know, pain for everybody involved. So, you know, I'll shoulder that. But to say that I regret it, like, I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I understand that. Let's talk a little bit about reunion.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So what were your overall thoughts on the reunion and how are you feeling about things now?

[B]

Just between her and I or the whole thing?

[A]

The whole thing.

[B]

Yeah. It was wild.

[A]

Yeah, it was.

[B]

There was a lot. Yeah. I wish I could have seen the TV a little bit better. There was, like, one over in the corner. You know, I was thinking there's going to be like, a jumbotron in there or something.

[A]

Nope. But. Nope.

[B]

No. It was crazy. Devonte dropping the bomb.

[A]

You had no idea.

[B]

I had no idea. And the thing is, devonte knows that I'm gullible, so he has tricked me so many times with stuff you probably wouldn't have believed. So when he said that, I think you can probably see me, like, look down the couch, expecting him to know he's serious.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

What a time to drop that.

[B]

Yeah. I think that was, like, the big stunner. Also, Harmel was one of my good friends, so his speech to Jess was like.

[A]

That was so beautiful.

[B]

It was incredible. Yeah. That guy. That guy's.

[A]

He seems like a standup guy.

[B]

He is. And he's so good at speaking.

[A]

Yeah. He ate that. Speech went crazy. Things got pretty intense between you and Amber, resulting in her storming off the reunion stage. Were you surprised that things escalated like that?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah. Is that kind of typical behavior?

[B]

Yeah. Like, explosive reactions, in my experience. I do know. You know, we talked a little bit. She let me know, you know, she's working on things, which I'm, like, super proud of her and happy for. Yeah. I wasn't really surprised.

[A]

Yeah. How did it feel to hear that Emma struggled with missing you after you?

[B]

I mean, it was awful. You know what do you do in that situation? I'm not gonna be like, hey, like, invite Emma over for the breakup.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Go get her from her dad's house. Yeah. Why would I? That's. That's like.

[A]

There's no real, like, rulebook on how to handle that.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, I mean, hearing about the little bike box of trinkets that she made, that was so sad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I. I don't really appreciate her, like, using that against. I felt like it was a little weaponized towards me, to be honest. I didn't really appreciate that. But. But I do feel. I feel awful because I'd formed a really strong bond with Emma. Like, she was amazing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that. That sucked.

[A]

Yeah. I'm sorry that everyone involved had to go through that, because I can't even imagine putting my. Like, if I try to put myself in that position, I just wouldn't even know what to do, so.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Were there any moments besides the devonte bomb that were shocking to you?

[B]

I don't know how I got roped into the devonte going to Austin thing. I caught a stray on that. I was like, I'm not in this, you guys.

[A]

You knew. He went.

[B]

I don't. I don't remember. She was like, yeah, maybe. It's very possible there was a group text of the boys, and maybe I just, like, mentioned it, but it's not like, a period of time that I remember, like, an incident.

[A]

That's so funny. You were like, I am not in this.

[B]

Leave me alone. Yeah. Anything else that surprised me? I mean, I think that I'm trying. I'm trying to think back. I was just kind of in the zone thinking about my own situation where I'm having trouble recalling 30 more big surprises that came out.

[A]

Yeah. I think the devonte thing and then the justice man were like, kind of the two things that I was like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So what did you think about Chris's response to everything?

[B]

Gosh. I mean, it feels like he showed genuine remorse. We all saw the footage. It was not good. I'm glad he got an opportunity to apologize. I hope that he did it privately. Before that, I'm not sure, but it seemed genuine. I hope that it was.

[A]

Who would you say you're closest with still from the cast?

[B]

I see Connor quite a bit because he's in Columbus now. Brie organized a murder mystery party. It was so fun.

[A]

So on brand for her.

[B]

Yeah, it was great. It was great. I see him pretty often. Like, Alex Lowery, Brennan. I see Tyler trying to think of the guys who are in Columbus. Most of the guys that are in Columbus. I see. I keep in touch with Alex a good amount. Like, he was really good about this entire thing of checking in on everybody, which I appreciated because there's days where things get a little stressful or you get a little overwhelmed. But he was really good about checking in on the guys. I talked to Vic and Harmel a lot too. So, like, most of them, I would say.

[A]

Yeah. So you guys are pretty close. That's really good. I think one of the best things that comes out of love is blind is friendships. I always say that. I mean, marriage obviously is the goal, but if you can leave with a bunch of friends and new relationships, relationships, that's the best thing.

[B]

I, I agree.

[A]

No one else can really relate.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's a crazy thing that we did. So it is nice to have people that were there and I mean, there's a lot of fun memories to talk about. Like, the lounge was one of the funniest times of my life. I wish that there was a blooper reel of lounge. Like just, just a lounge.

[A]

I heard that a lot. Yeah. The men love the lounge. You guys love the lounge. I know. Ollie, my husband, he did season one of Love is Blind uk.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And his favorite thing ever is the. The men's lounge.

[B]

And I'm like, it was awesome.

[A]

Were you at daycare? Like, he just sounds like. Just sounds like a shit show, to be honest. So you saying it to you? I'm like, I don't know what goes on in the lounge.

[B]

It was the best.

[A]

We do need a BTS of the lounge. That would be just men's lounge clips. Because I want to see.

[B]

I would love that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Every day.

[A]

Okay, well, let's, let's switch gears a little bit again to game time. My favorite part of these, of these podcasts and this game we're playing is going to be called Ick or stick. And this segment is sponsored by K18. K18 makes the impossible possible. When they realized that real lasting biomimetic hair repair didn't exist, they invented it. Patented K18 peptide discovered through 10 plus years of research. Reverses hair damage from bleach color, chemical services and heat at a molecular level that's really, really deep. And since K18 knows that less is more for your hair and the planet, their biotech powered products are highly concentrated, intentional and work for all hair types. Get strong, soft, bouncy hair in just four minutes. With K18, here are the rules. I'm going to throw out different personality traits and you have to tell me whether you think it would win you over it on Love is Blind. Like make stick. Or if you would think twice and would you think twice about saying yes at the altar? And it's ick. Okay. First one. Ick or stick? They keep saying they're not good enough for you in the pods.

[B]

I think that that's an egg.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

I want somebody who's like confident in themselves.

[A]

Yeah. Now that. Ick or stick. They are extremely independent in value alone time.

[B]

Um, I think that that could stick because I value alone time. I understand that.

[A]

Yeah. I think that one was a little too. Had two parts because. Extremely independent. Like. Yeah, that's kind of.

[B]

Yeah. I guess I need to like a gauge.

[A]

Yeah. In the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That could stick to. Because I do love my alone time. Okay. Ick or stick. They don't like to try new foods or experiences.

[B]

That's a huge.

[A]

Immediately.

[B]

Immediately.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Ick or stick. They constantly compare you to their exes.

[B]

That's a big ick. That one's personal. Yeah.

[A]

I was like. I had to see your face on that one. Ick or stick. After an argument, they need alone time before having a discussion.

[B]

That's stick. I do that because I want to make sure that. That I don't say something I'm going to regret. Sometimes I need to process those thoughts and think about it. So stick.

[A]

Same stick. Okay. Ick or stick. They don't like cookies.

[B]

Who doesn't like cookies?

[A]

Serial killers, Disgusting murderers don't like cookies.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Okay. Ick or stick. They're very career driven and work long hours that.

[B]

I think that ambition is a good thing. So I would say stick. Like on the. On the caveat that like take off for us to go do stuff.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Heard. Okay. Ick or stick. They're spontaneous and make big decisions quickly.

[B]

I mean, I'm not one to talk. I did that.

[A]

Yeah. Love is blind. Yeah. You proposed after how many days?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So that's a stick for you.

[B]

Unfortunately.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But maybe you grew and I. Yeah, I had. I'm not sure if this is something that's going to come, but I had like an amazing experience and got a lot out of it.

[A]

Yeah, that'll come. Don't you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Ick or stick. They constantly change their hairstyle.

[B]

Stick. That's fine.

[A]

Yeah. Bald is fine. Come home, she's bald.

[B]

I don't know if I would love that.

[A]

Okay, so it's an ick.

[B]

You didn't say you bald. You said hairstyle.

[A]

Okay. What's a hairstyle that you don't want to come home to?

[B]

I think I like longer hair.

[A]

Okay, so a bob. You're like.

[B]

Yeah. So I think ick. You think you're right. Ick.

[A]

Yeah, ick. Okay.

[B]

You checked me on that one. Thank you. That helped me.

[A]

Got you. Okay, well, that was really fun. And thank you so much, Jordan, for playing my little game and thank you, K18, for sponsoring our segment.

[B]

Thank you, K18.

[A]

Can we send him home with a box of K18? Look at his hair.

[B]

It's beautiful.

[A]

K18 has been breaking the rules and records since day one. Their formulas pick up exactly where your hair's biology leaves off, unlocking lasting solutions for every hair concern with biology. First, hair care. Powered by K18's patented technology using biotech and biomimetics, K18 recreates nature's solution in the lab to deliver healthier hair while staying vegan, sustainable, and cruelty free. You'll flip for hair like new. Shop the mask at Sephora or visit k18hair.com for 10% off your first order. That's k18hair.com and code reality. Okay, so, Jordan, before we go, we need to know what was your overall experience and your takeaway from love is one.

[B]

It was. I mean, it was amazing. I think. I think for me, I had a lot of personal growth. One thing helped me. Helped me a lot with. With dating overall, because it made me a lot more mindful and thoughtful about the things that I'm asking and just being more in the moment, I think it's so easy to get distracted. I think just being more empathetic to people in general because, like, in 10 minutes, you learn so much. Like, everybody has so many layers to them where, you know, it's easy to brush people off, especially life moves so fast. But another thing is, like, I felt kind of brought back to life in some ways as I work remotely and I have for the past six years. And so I mentioned the lounge, but just like being. Being around 15 other guys who were in similar situation pretty much the same age, I was like, I don't know, I just felt like Breath of Life. Yeah, Breath of Life was like breathed back into me. So that was. That was a huge takeaway. So I felt like I walked away feeling more like myself, which is like a weird thing to say, but I get it. Yeah, it was. It was great.

[A]

I really enjoyed seeing you on the reunion and you seem like you've come a long way. You seem very help, like, happy and healthy. And you said you're in a relationship now, which I love to hear. And we were all rooting for you. We're obviously rooting for Amber and just in general, rooting for love.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm just really happy that you stopped by here at what's the Reality and said hey to me and gave me some tea. Okay, well, thank you again for stopping by.

[B]

Thank you for having me. I had fun.

[A]

Of course. And thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of what's the Reality? Be sure to follow us on all social platforms at what's the Reality? Pod and I will see you next time. Bye, guys. What's the Reality? What's the Reality? Day or night? VRBoCare is here 247 to help make every part of your stay seamless. If anything comes up or you simply need a little guidance, support is ready whenever you reach out. From the moment you book to the moment you head home. We're here to help things run smoothly because a great trip starts with a right support. And hey, a good playlist doesn't hurt either.

[B]

Why have I asked my electrician I found on Angie.com to bury my pet hamster? I was so moved by how carefully he buried my electrical wires, I knew I could trust him to bury my sweet nibbles after his untimely end. This is very strange, Angie. The one you trust to find the ones you trust. Find pros for all your home [e-mail].