Love Is Blind’s Meg & Mason: We Weren’t Supposed to Work… But We Did

Summary

Podcast Summary:

Podcast: What's the Reality?
Host: Amber Desiree (AD)
Episode: Love Is Blind’s Meg & Mason: We Weren’t Supposed to Work… But We Did
Date: December 10, 2025

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Overview

In this candid episode, AD sits down with Meg and Mason, the “unconventional success story” from Love is Blind Season 8. Despite not leaving the pods as a couple, their relationship blossomed after filming—away from reality TV’s pressures. The discussion dives deep into their Love Is Blind journey, challenges of public scrutiny, post-show growth, relationship lessons, and honest reactions to Love Is Blind Season 9.

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Key Topics & Discussion Highlights

1. Life After "Love Is Blind" (01:24–03:40)

• Returning to Normalcy:

  • Meg: Life quickly returned to “normal,” focusing on work, meeting family, and routine.
  • Mason: The main difference now is being recognized by fans in public.
  • Quote:
    “I feel like life just went right back to how it was before we filmed, which was kind of nice.” – Meg (01:33)
    “It’s crazy having people say ‘what’s up’ on the street sometimes.” – Mason (01:47)

• Relieved for the Spotlight to Move On:

  • Both are grateful media attention has shifted to new cast members.
  • Quote:
    “More than a little, yeah. A lot of relieved. It’s nice.” – Meg (02:39)

2. Their Relationship Now: Independence and Progress (03:00–03:40)

• Not Living Together Yet:

  • Both value their independence and see moving in as a big future step.
  • They enjoy sleepovers but appreciate their own space.

• Still in Minnesota:

  • Both remain in the state where they met.

3. The Love Is Blind Journey: Connection, Triangle, and Aftermath

a. Initial Chemistry in the Pods (04:19–06:20)

• First Impressions:
  • Mason: Meg was his first date; he confided about being new to Minnesota, which Meg embraced effortlessly.
  • Meg: Connected immediately through creativity, music, and shared interests, to the point they ignored producer prompt questions.
  • Quotes:
    “After that date, it was just pedal to the floor.” – Mason (05:15)
    “There was so much we were connecting on... We never had to look at the questions.” – Meg (05:16)

b. Love Triangle Drama (06:47–09:24)

• Mason’s POV:

  • Found it difficult to juggle feelings for two women (Meg and Madison), feeling conflicted and pulled in multiple directions.
  • Quote:
    “I’m such a pushover and a people pleaser… eventually something terrible is going to happen.” – Mason (07:29)

• Meg’s POV:

  • Wasn’t aware of the full extent of the triangle until later; vowed not to be anyone’s “number two.”
  • Quote:
    “If I’m number two... I cannot say yes to that.” – Meg (08:20)

• After the Break:

  • Meg broke it off but revisited things after clarifying context outside the pods.
  • Mason respected Meg’s self-respect and independence.
  • Quote:
    “That was the reason I fell for her in the pods. You should put yourself first.” – Mason (09:07)

c. Advice for Future Cast Members (09:24)

• Mason:
  • Weigh your options, look for sincerity, address red flags directly.
  • Don’t ignore intuition.

d. Misconceptions & Editing Realities (10:22–11:13)

• Meg:
  • What viewers see isn’t exactly what happened; scenes are edited/cut for TV.
  • The couple has moved on from any drama and feel secure now.

e. How They Ended Up Together (11:22–12:37)

• Post Show Attempts:

  • Tried dating a few times with challenges; became closer when the show aired, as Mason was Meg’s rock.
  • Open, honest conversations strengthen their bond.
  • Quote:
    “He was so there for me and I could rely on him. Honestly, it was attractive and sexy.” – Meg (11:45)

• Mason:

  • The show airing enabled them to clear the air and see everything unfiltered, alleviating doubts.

f. Would They Have Made It as a “Traditional” Couple? (13:08–14:40)

• Both agree that the standard Love is Blind path (to the altar) could have “strained” their relationship beyond repair.
• They appreciate developing at their own pace instead.

4. Lessons from Reality TV and Handling Public Scrutiny (14:45–15:46, 19:23–20:38)

• Surround Yourself with Genuine People:

  • TV attracts some for the “wrong reasons.”

• Know Yourself and Ignore the “Noise”:

  • Developing thick skin is critical.
  • Quotes:
    “Focus on what's within your control... have grace for others.” – Meg (41:49) “If you’re there trying for a different reason, it comes across.” – Mason (42:11)

• Dealing with Comments/Bullying:

  • Both try to stay out of comments, but it’s hard to see friends attacked online.

• Staying Grounded:

  • Their relative lack of “highlight” moments helped shield them from ongoing media pressure, making it easier to focus on their real relationship.

5. Love Is Blind Season 9 Recap & Hot Takes (24:36–36:34)

a. General Reactions

• “Untraditional” Season:

  • Season full of firsts—but “the couples don’t even seem like they necessarily like each other.” – Meg (24:56–25:51)
  • Strong emphasis on lack of chemistry and more drama compared to their own season.

• No Couples Lasted:

  • Neither Meg nor Mason was surprised, citing limited on-screen chemistry.

b. Couple-by-Couple "Hot Takes" (28:56–36:09)

• Madison & Joe:

  • Entertaining, but “just couldn’t make something stick.”
  • Mason: “Interesting to watch.”
  • Meg: “Justice for Madison.”

• Annie & Nick:

  • Both felt incompatibility; Nick perhaps misunderstood.
  • AD: "If I had to say a couple was compatible, it’d be Nick and Annie—quirky."

• Ali & Anton:

  • Shared core values, but lifestyles didn’t mesh.
  • “Where’s the tequila? Done.” – Meg.

• KB & Edmund:

  • Most authentic, emotionally intelligent, but not compatible long term, especially given KB’s emotional maturity.
  • “You don’t want to bring home your job and now babysit your man.” – AD (33:17)

• Sparkle Megan & Jordan:

  • Most chemistry, but lifestyle differences too large a hurdle.
  • Praised for bringing new perspectives (e.g., featuring a single dad).
  • “They were the one couple that I thought if they had a shot, it’d be them.” – Mason (35:29)

c. On Heartbreak

• “The one thing everyone can relate to… is heartbreak.” – Mason (35:50)
• Meg applauds cast for choosing themselves over forced marriages.

6. Relationship Insights & Playful Moments

a. What Fans Didn’t See (21:23–22:59)

• Meg:

  • Mason’s kindness, patience, and non-defensiveness when discussing relationship needs.
  • Quote:
    “Anything I bring to Mason ever is met with just an open heart and open mind... I've never seen that in a man before.” – Meg (21:23)

• Mason:

  • Meg helps him be “the best version” of himself by encouraging self-discovery, growth, and open communication.

b. The Future (23:01–24:26)

• Goals:
  • Discussing moving in together, marriage, and kids; taking things one step at a time.
  • Meg wants to start a family soon.

c. Fun "Most Likely To" Game (37:29–41:29)

• Playful, intimate revelations about who’s more likely to plan dates, apologize first (Mason!), burn dinner (Mason, per Meg), or get recognized in public.

• Both say Mason is more recognized, but often mistaken for “the baseball guy” Ben.

• Would they do Reality TV again?

  • Mason: Maybe, but “definitely not a dating show.” They joke about being a bad fit for "The Amazing Race" due to Meg’s navigational woes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Real-Life vs. Reality TV:
  “You don’t handle situations [on the show] how real life would be…” – Mason (13:31)
• On the Love Triangle:
  “If I’m number two… I cannot say yes to that.” – Meg (08:20)
• Chemistry in the Pods:
  “We never had to look at the questions [producers gave us]… it was such a natural flow.” – Meg (05:53)
• On Public Scrutiny:
  “You want to fight every person… you don’t know me!” – Meg (15:08)
• On Growth:
  “You have helped me become the best version of myself.” – Mason (22:10)
• Advice for Future Cast Members:
  “Look for who’s being sincere and authentic… If there’s red flags, address them.” – Mason (09:49)
• Final Takeaway:
  “Know yourself, be yourself and focus on what’s within your control. Try to forget about the rest and have grace for others.” – Meg (41:49)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Post-show life and fame: 01:24–03:40
• Pods connection story: 04:19–06:20
• Love triangle and aftermath: 06:47–09:24
• Advice for new castmates: 09:24–10:03
• Clearing story misconceptions: 10:22–11:13
• How their relationship rekindled: 11:22–12:37
• Reflections on pressure/testing path: 13:08–14:40
• Lessons from reality TV: 14:45–15:46
• Season 9 critiques start: 24:36
• Couple-by-couple hot takes: 28:56–36:34
• Relationship game: 37:29–41:29
• Ultimate takeaways: 41:31–42:35

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Tone & Style

Warm, insightful, and self-aware, with Meg and Mason openly reflecting on both messy and joyful moments. AD keeps the energy playful and real, sharing her own reality TV experience and keeping things lighthearted. The episode offers both humor and vulnerability, making it feel like listening to friends (“Y’ all are too cute!”).

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For Listeners & Love Is Blind Fans

If you missed the episode, this conversation is a must for anyone interested in what happens to reality TV couples off-camera. Meg and Mason’s journey is honest, relatable, and full of lessons—about love, boundaries, personal growth, and ignoring the internet “noise.” Their grounded take on public relationships and refreshing hot takes on Season 9 will resonate with reality fans seeking authenticity and closure—both onscreen and off.

Transcript

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What's the reality?

[Mason]

What's the reality?

[Ad]

Hey, guys, it's your girl Ad. Welcome to another episode of what's the Reality? Today I'm chatting with a very special couple from Love is Blind season eight, Meg and Mason. Welcome to what's the Reality. How are y'?

[Mason]

All?

[Meg]

We're good. Happy to be here. It's nice to finally meet you.

[Ad]

I know. I'm so happy to see you guys. So it's been over a year since your season aired. How has life changed since then?

[Meg]

I feel like, for me, I feel like life kind of just went right back to how it was before we filmed, which was kind of nice. Like, it kind of just went back to normal. We're both working, like, meeting the family. Like, it just feels like how it was before.

[Mason]

Honestly, for sure, I feel like life did just kind of go normal. Like, busy, busy, busy. But the only difference is there's a lot of people who know who we are and say, what's up? And it's kind of crazy having people do that on the street sometimes.

[Ad]

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[Meg]

Yep. It's like that. It really is like that, too. I'll be at work, I'll have a mask on over my face, and someone will be like, have we met before? Do I know You. And I'm like, beats me.

[Ad]

I don't know.

[Meg]

I've never met you. You're right.

[Ad]

Okay, so are you guys a little relieved that everyone's talking about the new season and not focused on yours anymore?

[Meg]

More than a little. Yeah. A lot of relieved. It's nice.

[Mason]

Yes is the answer.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Mason]

So nice to see the pressure just off and, like, everyone cares about what these other people are doing Also, like, a year ago, it's. It's crazy. We feel for them when they, like, we see negative comments about something. It's like, I'm sure they are over it at this point.

[Meg]

Yep.

[Ad]

It's so hard. Are you guys living together?

[Meg]

No.

[Mason]

No, we've.

[Meg]

Not yet.

[Mason]

We've been talking about it, though.

[Meg]

Yeah. But neither one of us have lived with a partner before.

[Ad]

Okay.

[Meg]

Yeah. So it's going to be a big step, I think, for both of us to act like that's going to be, like, a massive deal for us to be like, okay, we're both gonna live with a partner. We're gonna, like, fully do it, commit to it. But right now, I mean, we're just, like, going over to each other's places, and that works for us right now too. Like, the space is kind of nice sometimes just to, like, we're both independent, so it's nice to be able to, like, hang out, do sleepovers, and then just, like, both go, you know? Like, it's just nice.

[Ad]

Yeah. Are you guys still in Minnesota?

[Meg]

Yeah. Okay.

[Ad]

Very nice. Okay, so you two are an unconventional Love is Blind success story. Okay, so just to recap for the. You both met on season eight of Love is Blind and had a very strong connection in the pods due to a messy love triangle, you left the pods separately. But after the show, you two reconnected and are now a couple. So congratulations. I love to see that. Thank you. Okay, so I want to go back and have you guys walk us through your journey. Take us back to the pods. And what initially drew you guys to each other in the pods?

[Meg]

Take it away, babe.

[Mason]

Meg was my first date in the pods. I remember walking in and I had just moved to Minnesota, and I was so nervous to tell people, like, oh, you know, I'm brand new here. And I thought that was just going to be like, oh, you don't even live in Minnesota. Why are you even here? And I ended up telling Meg really quick in our first date, and I was just like, I have something to tell you. I just moved here, so I don't really know a coffee shop that you like or a restaurant. Like, I don't have any opinions. And she's like, oh, that's cool. I just moved into my sister's house and just, like, shrugged it off like it was nothing. I was just like, meg, you made me feel so comfortable. I was so self conscious about that moment. And she just shrugged it off like it was nothing. And I knew right after that, I was like, she really looks at things through different eyes. It's like she's just cares and really understanding. And. Yeah, after that date, it was just.

Pedal to the floor.

[Meg]

Yeah, it was for me, too. You were my third date. Second or third date. And I just remember us talking so much about creativity in our creative endeavors. Like, he's a cinematographer. I used to love doing photography, modeling. And so we really connected on that. He told me he was a skateboarder. We bonded over music. And so a lot of the times for us, we never had to look at the questions that they give you in the book because we would just have so much fun talking about our Hobb, our interests, movies, music. Like, there was so much we were connecting on every day. We'd be like, okay, next time we're gonna go back to the book, look.

[Ad]

At the question, stay on task. Yeah.

[Meg]

Yes. We're gonna focus in. And we just never did. We never had to. Whereas with other dates, you know, you're like, okay, say something. Say something.

[Ad]

Next question.

[Meg]

Next question. Yeah, exactly. So it was just such a natural flow for, I think, both of us.

[Mason]

Absolutely. It was fun being at the tail end of the dates and just being like, oh, we were supposed to talk about this in the book. Oh, maybe next time. And it's like, yeah, we never got around to it.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Ad]

I mean, you've had a year to chat, so I'm sure you got to it at some point.

[Meg]

Sometimes we'll go back to the book and, like, ask a question. Like, there was good questions in there. So every once in a while, like, go back and, like, text him a question from the book just to like.

[Ad]

That's so funny.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Ad]

Those questions are so scary. You open your book, it's like, day one, talk about sex. You're like, can I not?

[Meg]

Can I?

[Ad]

Actually, not.

[Meg]

Exactly.

[Ad]

Okay. So, Mason, you found yourself in a love triangle with Meg and Madison, which, at the time made it difficult for you to fully commit to Meg. What was that like for you, being a part of a love triangle? And do you remember what was going on in your head?

[Mason]

Yeah, I mean, I say all the time, I would tell my friends about the experience. And, you know, I can tell them everything, but they really won't understand what it was like to actually be in there. I'm the type of person who, when I'm in a relationship, it's just like, I am all in on the person that I like. So for me to go into a situation where there are two girls who I had strong feelings for just.

I was. It was so tough. And I'm such a pushover and a people pleaser that it's like, eventually something terrible is going to happen because I just, like, I'll. I'll bend over for both of them and it's like, okay, this is just. Yeah. So there was a lot going on in my head of, like, this feels wrong, but I still have these feelings. And it was a crazy experience.

[Ad]

No, I bet. Meg, what was going on in your head? Like, how did you feel being involved in a love triangle?

[Meg]

I'll be honest with you, I didn't know the extent of the love triangle until after Madison and Alex made it official. And so I didn't really have feelings about it in the moment because I wasn't really aware of it until, like, after. And then I was like, oh, that's when I found out everything. And then that's when I had to, you know, face the music and come to terms with what I was going to do. But going in, I very much knew, like, if I'm number two or feel like number two, I cannot say yes to that. And so when I found that out, I was like, damn, like, now I have to end it, and I don't want to, but I made, like, a promise to myself or I'm not gonna be number two or a default. And so it was really unfortunate finding out, but I think after the fact, we really gotta talk about it once we left, and I kind of understood more of the context of what was being said and how things went down to where obviously I felt more comfortable of, like, okay, I wasn't the number two, you know, so I was comfortable at that point. Kind of like seeing it through and seeing where the relationship could grow.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Mason]

And it hurt when Meg broke it off with me. I mean, don't get me wrong, it sucked. But at the same time, that was, like, the reason that I fell for in the pods. You should put yourself first. You should do the right thing. And I don't blame you at all for doing that. It was a very, very good decision on your part. So.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Mason]

And it worked out.

[Meg]

Yeah, it did.

[Ad]

Y' all are Too cute. Mason, what advice would you give to future love is blind cast members who find themselves in a similar situation torn between two people.

[Mason]

When you're not in the pods, take notes, weigh your options. Just like, who is here for me? Who's being sincere and authentic? And.

If there's red flags, address them. That is one of the things that I just kind of got caught up in. Just like, oh, nope, those aren't red flags. Just keep on going. And it's just like, you really need to stay true to yourself and really get to the root of who you're actually dating and what they're there for.

[Ad]

So, I mean, I can't imagine just being a guy in the pods with two hot women or that you perceive to be hot, like wanting you, and you're like, oh, no, my life is so hard.

It's so tough. Oh, no, exactly.

[Meg]

They're the victims. Right? So tough. All these choices.

[Ad]

What am I to do? So are there any misconceptions about the storyline or how it played out that you guys want to clear up at all?

[Mason]

I mean, I could speak for you for sure.

[Meg]

Yeah. I feel like at this point, honestly, not really. I feel like I've said a lot of what I have needed to say about that storyline and everything that happened. I think at this point, like, we're so in our relationship, it's kind of like, irrelevant what happened in the pods because we're in a good place now. So honestly, not that I can think of. Like, I. Yeah, I mean, what you see is not 100% how it happened. Things are taken out of context, of course, and so it's hard watching it back for that reason. But at this point I think, yeah, we're just in a good place. So it's like, eh, people can think what they wanna think. We know what happened, we know the truth. So.

[Ad]

Right, right. So I do want all the details though. So walk us through what happened after the pause. Like, how did we get here?

[Meg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we tried dating a couple times and then every time that we would try dating, we ended up in the same spot with the same hiccup that was really hard to get past of just personality differences. And then I think once the show aired, I saw a very different side to Mason where he was like my rock when it was airing because that was hard to watch back. Like, it was a difficult experience to go through and I didn't handle it as well as I actually thought I was going to. And so he was so there for me and I Could rely on him. And it was just really, honestly attractive and, like, sexy. In that moment, I was like, I've seen a different side to you, and I really like it. And I feel so even more safe in this moment, knowing I can rely on you in really hard times. And so I think that's what kind of, like, brought us together. And then we've been together ever since, and we've still had hard conversations. Like, we are not perfect. I think that's so hard is when you have a public relationship, you feel like you have to be perfect, and we're not. Like, we have hard, honest conversations. But I feel like that's what, like, makes us stronger in the end. So I just appreciate we can do that, honestly.

[Mason]

Yeah. I think after the show coming out has definitely just. There was a weight being lifted because you went through that experience. I could tell Meg everything that happened and how complicated it was and where my head was at, but at the end of the day, she just has to watch it and, like, actually see what happens. So I think a lot of. Maybe not a lot, but some of the pressure was just, like, waiting for the show to come out. And when that came out, it was kind of like, okay, well, there's nothing more to second guess. It is what it is. So.

[Meg]

Yeah, it's very true.

[Ad]

Right? I love when love loves. That's like, my favorite. My favorite thing. Do you guys think if you had chosen each other in the pods and you had gone on the full Love is Blind journey that you would be here today?

[Mason]

We've talked about that.

I feel like we would have.

Been under the pressure cooker. You know, whenever you make it to the altar or you're on your way to the altar, there's. There's a lot of production and long days and things. You know, you don't handle situations normally how, you know, real life would be. So it's. It's tough to say what would have happened, but I do know that would have probably put more of a strain on our relationship, and just maybe we wouldn't have been where we are now, or I'm sure we would have been friends.

[Meg]

Yeah, I agree. I'm pretty confident we probably would not have been in a relationship because of that strain. And it's so different breaking it off in the pods versus breaking it off at the altar in front of all your friends, all your family. You go through so much between the pods and the altar. Like, there's no saying what would have happened. I think we would have always been friends, but I Don't know that we would have gotten to this point, honestly. It just would have been, I think, so much more traumatic to, like, move on from.

[Ad]

Yeah, for sure. And now you guys got to do things at your own pace, at your own speed and make it work for you guys, which is a beautiful thing.

[Meg]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mason]

Cannot complain. All the trauma was worth it.

[Ad]

So what would you guys say was the biggest lesson you each took away from Love is blind?

[Mason]

Surround yourself with people who are lifting you up and supporting you for the right reasons.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Mason]

I know in this realm of, like, TV and production, there's certain people who are in it for the wrong reasons. And I think it's really important to have friends around you who are authentic and genuine and, you know, do your best to snuff them out and keep the good ones close.

[Meg]

Yeah, I would agree with that. And I think knowing how important it is to know yourself and really appreciating the people who know you and support you and then just being able to focus on that instead of all the other noise that's out there on the Internet. Because it can get hard, you know, being like, you want to fight every person. You'd be like, you don't know me. That's not what I said. That's not what actually, you get so heated about it and you just have to like to let things roll off your back and know who you are and stand in that. It can be a tough lesson to learn, but I think this accelerates that process. Yeah.

[Ad]

So are there any castmates that you guys are still close with?

[Mason]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, There's a lot. We got a good, solid guide core. There's a lot of friends. There's Joey, Tom, Scott, Dave, Daniel, Alex. It's. There's. You know, I feel like Minnesota was a unicorn season because we're all pretty damn close friends.

[Meg]

Yeah, I would say so, too. I think we all have obviously gotten busy and, like, in our own lives, so we don't see everyone all the time. But I have so much love and respect for so many people on our season. Honestly.

[Ad]

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[Meg]

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[Meg]

Honestly, I feel like the people who I see the most right now are Molly and Sarah.

[Ad]

Okay.

[Meg]

Love those girls. Like they are both such like when you're around someone and they just like lift your spirits, fill your cup. They're just good energy to be around. So hanging out with them is just always such a good time. Fun.

[Ad]

Okay, so another couple from your season, they're currently dating even though they didn't pick each other in the pods which is Sarah and Joey. What are your thoughts on their relationship?

[Mason]

I think it's great and we got a double date planned with them coming up soon. And honestly, going out with them is awesome. I totally see the chemistry. What a lot of people don't know is correct me if I'm wrong, Sarah was Joey's number two and Joey was Sarah's number two in the pod. So it was pretty close. So it makes sense that they're together. And yeah, they're honestly adorable. Whenever I'm with them, it's like they're pretty meant to be. So I approve.

[Meg]

I think the thing that's hardest for me to see is like I said I want to fight everyone in the comments. I truly do. But even more so for people, even this season I'm seeing comments in people's. I almost responded and was like, how dare you talk to that person that way? You don't know them. That is so rude. And so I think with Sarah and Joey, like the way it came about I think is like scandalous and people are, you know, judging them off of it. But the thing is they are both really good people. And the thing I know about them is they would never intentionally hurt anybody. And I think it hurt them so much that people were hurt in the process. And so it hurts me to see so many people come after them in the comments because I'm like, you don't know that they are actually really good people. So that's hard for me to see that.

[Ad]

Like, you're so sweet.

I'm getting ramped out the comments. You need to stay out the comments. I feel like there's only so much that you'll be able to like not respond to and then you're just gonna go crazy. One Day just.

[Meg]

I know. I wanna fight all the bullies, man. I know.

[Ad]

I know. I personally know how challenging it can be. So I'm curious, how do you guys keep your relationship grounded after it being such a public experiment?

[Meg]

I think it's actually probably easier for us because we weren't a highlight of our season. We were kind. You know, we were just in the pods, and so I don't think we've gotten as much, like, attention or, you know, and so it's kind of. It's nice because we got to experience it, and it was a really positive experience overall for us. But I just feel like, yeah, we did really slide back into normal life. So there's a lot of times I forget that's even how we met, because it's, you know, it was over a year ago, and we're really just like a normal relationship relationship. So I personally don't feel like it's hard to stay grounded through it.

[Mason]

No, I. I don't either. And to piggyback. That's exactly my answer. It's just we kind of had a cheat code where we didn't make it to the altar, so there wasn't really any pressure. We had our own time to figure out our relationship and how everything was going. So it's honestly a blessing that we had that time to actually figure things out and make sure our relationship was real and strong. And that's why we are where we are today. Yeah.

[Ad]

That's beautiful. That's also, like, kind of how I feel about, like, Perfect Match. Cause all that pressure, that love is blind pressure doesn't exist in Perfect Match. So we had time to, like, do things our way and kind of hide a little bit from the people. I mean, then the show came out and everything got ruined. But now. But we had our time, and so I think it's a beautiful thing where you can take yourself out of that experiment and just do things your way. And I think that's probably one of the best things to come out of these shows when you have your own space and your own time.

[Meg]

Yeah, No, I agree. Definitely that year gap between filming it and watching it back, I think is, like, crucial to build that foundation. And I think that we did so for sure.

[Ad]

Okay, so what's your favorite thing about each other that the fans did not get to see?

[Meg]

I mean, my overall favorite thing that I think everyone sees in Mason is just his kindness and patience. Like, I've. I just feel so safe because he is so understanding, patient, and kind. And I think with other men I've dated. If I bring something up that I want to work on in the relationship, it's met with immediate defense. And it's like, hey, like, I'm not coming at you. It's just something that, like, I feel like I need, and you can tell me what you need, and I want to have open conversations, and, like, anything I bring to Mason ever is met with just, like, an open heart and open mind, and just like, yeah, I'll work on that, and. Or it'll never happen again. And it doesn't. And so I think, like, I've never seen that in a man before, which I really appreciate. Thanks for that. Yeah.

[Ad]

That's beautiful.

[Meg]

My.

[Mason]

My favorite thing about Meg is. I don't know if this sounds selfish, but you have helped me become the best version of myself. Because that's what you truly want in order to be happy. I've never met anyone who.

Does. It's just, like, puts. You put yourself first. You figure out what makes you happy, how you normally do things, work on it, and we'll work together, and we'll grow together. She's just been an incredible person to talk through feelings and emotions and tell me what works for her and just always there to listen and grow together. And I guess I don't know how to put that into a word specifically, but she's always very, very caring and has helped me grow in. In so many.

[Ad]

That's beautiful.

So what's next for you two as a couple?

[Mason]

Sorry, you're breaking up.

[Meg]

I think just moving. We just actually had this conversation of just, like, having more conversations about goals for the future. And, like, we said, moving in, like, kids, you know, like, marriage, all those things, I think just starting to really, like, have those conversations. And what do we. With goals, it's like, okay, what do we need to feel comfortable to get there? And just, like, really diving into that, because I'm turning 32 in a few days, and I'm like, I want to start having kids. Like, I want to start, like, really focus.

[Ad]

Yes.

[Meg]

I'm so jealous.

[Ad]

I'm like, it's coming, girl. It's coming. It'll come. Trust me, it'll go.

[Meg]

Yeah. I just really. As I've gotten older, I really want to focus on family. Like, I hang out with my nieces and nephews all the time. I value being around family so much, and I'm like, man, I can't wait to start that unit, you know, that family unit for myself. And so we're just starting to, like, really have those conversations. Of, like, when do you want that? What do we want financially before that and just. Yeah. Talking more and more about that.

[Mason]

Yeah. We have little goals and check marks of what we want to do, and lately it's been very exciting talking about everything. We're getting, you know, excited to get there, but, you know, we'll take it one step at a time whenever we're ready. So.

[Meg]

Yeah, one day at a time.

[Ad]

That's beautiful. Well, I'm sprinkling some baby dust just because.

[Meg]

Yay, dust. I'm receiving. I'm receiving.

[Ad]

Okay, y'. All. So let's talk love is Blind, Season 9. I'm kind of excited to talk to y' all about it and get your. Your opinions.

[Meg]

Likewise.

[Ad]

Yeah, let's just. Overall, what do you think of this season?

[Mason]

Untraditional. Untraditional is the word I'd use.

[Meg]

Yeah. A lot of firsts, which is interesting. I think that's always exciting when there's firsts that happen. I think as a viewer, it's so interesting watching it as a viewer and then also someone who has been a part of the experience because I catch myself, you know, being so upset at what I'm seeing and getting really invested and then being like, hold on. I don't know these people. I don't know what was edited out. I have to remind myself of all the things I was feeling watching us back. That being said, I think it's kind of a bummer watching this season because I don't, like, the couples don't even seem like they necessarily like each other. And so I'm, like, watching it just, like, give me a spark. Like, give me something, you know? And I haven't seen a lot of that this season. And so that part, I think, was kind of like. Like sad or a bummer of, like, man, I wish. I wish that there was more of, like, that, like, chemistry that you could see and feel between the couples.

[Mason]

I didn't think our season could get a little detoxed. There's more controversy in this season, and we thought ours was just kind of crazy and chaotic, but this one is. It's taking the cake for sure.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Ad]

Sadly, none of the couples made it. Are you guys surprised by that? And was there anyone that you thought would get married?

[Meg]

I'm truly not surprised. Just, again, I didn't see that romantic spark between a lot of them, and so I wasn't surprised. I think out of everyone, I was rooting as a couple for Megan and Jordan and then as individuals, I really liked KB And Edmund a lot.

But yeah, I don't know. It's a lib first.

[Ad]

Yeah. So I can kind of feel what you're saying because I think when everybody left the pods and went to Mexico, I was like, everyone just feels like a mixed match. Like no one felt like they were with who they should have been with. They just didn't feel. I feel you on the chemistry part. Like, I felt like that was lacking a lot. Like they were trying. You could see they were trying, but the chemistry was very, very low.

[Meg]

Right. That's exactly how I felt. But you know, I actually watched your interview with KB and something she mentioned that I was like, okay, so that makes sense. That checks out is that she said a lot of them went for people they wouldn't normally to try and break a pattern or a habit. And I think there's something to be said about you trying for that self growth, but then also it doesn't always work out. And so I think that's what you saw is people trying to be like, okay, this is different. I'm gonna try this route. And then sometimes it really just. You gotta go for what, you know, worse.

[Mason]

Right.

[Ad]

There should be like a meter for how far out of your comfort zone you go because yeah, I know they say your type doesn't get you much places, but you can't stray too, too, too far.

[Meg]

Exactly that. Yeah, that's how I felt too watching it.

[Ad]

Okay, so I want to get you guys hot take on each couple.

[Meg]

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[Mason]

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[Meg]

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[Mason]

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[Meg]

Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

[Mason]

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[Meg]

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[Mason]

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[Meg]

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[Ad]

So we'll start with Madison and Joe.

[Mason]

My take is they were the most entertaining. I believe it's just trying to see them figure it out and work together is that's great tv. They just trying to make something thick that just Couldn't. And, yeah, I think. I think they're solid people. It was just. It was an interesting. Interesting thing to watch.

[Meg]

I think they're very different people. I mean, I just. Again, I just don't feel compatible. They seem so different from each other. So, yeah, it was hard sometimes because, Joe, I'll be honest, I don't know this guy, he wrote me the wrong way. So for me, I was like, justice for Madison. Like, I want to see her, you know, find someone who is more on her caliber and on her level. So that was kind of a disappointment.

[Ad]

But I feel that. Okay. Annie and Nick.

[Meg]

Yeah. This one, again, like, I just thought no compatibility at all. And so I think for me, watching Annie, I think that she's someone who wants to love is what I got from her. She just. She wants to love. You know, she may have more of, like, an anxious attachment style, and I just think it didn't work. But I think Nick might be misunderstood a little bit, too, because I think that he was doing his best to like, de. Escalate certain conversations or just. And people are like, he's manipulative. He's dead in the eyes. And maybe he is. I don't know the guy, but I just try to look at them and see the best of just, like, they're different people. It. It just. I don't think that one was ever gonna work out.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Mason]

Yeah. As time went on, it was pretty clear that they probably shouldn't get married. So I commend Nick for seeing it and.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Mason]

Acting on it.

[Meg]

Yeah. Okay, wait, Ad. Why aren't you weighing in?

[Ad]

I don't want to, like, put too much spice on it. I want to hear. Because my opinions have been made for a very long time. I want to hear what you guys think. Okay.

[Meg]

Okay. That's fair.

[Ad]

No, and honestly, like, if I had to say a couple was compatible, I would say Nick and Annie were compatible. Cause I felt like both of them were.

[Meg]

They're quirky.

[Ad]

They were. And they were, like, spiraling in their own ways. And I think that together, if they had a little bit more time and a little less alcohol, I think a lot could have been maybe figured out because they had some things in common.

[Mason]

Yep.

[Ad]

Let's move on to Ali and Anton.

[Meg]

Okay. Allie and Anton.

I just think on very different levels in life and in maturity and lifestyles, honestly. And I think what we didn't see that they alluded to a lot was, like, they had the same kind of upbringing and overall values with family, and I think that can get you a long way, because that can be hard to find. But I think, yeah, just watching them in the lifestyle mismatch, it just. Yeah, it felt like once they had that conversation where she was like, where's the tequila bottle? Yeah. Where's the 12 pack? To me, right then and there, I was like, it's a wrap. Yeah, this one's done.

[Ad]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mason]

It did seem like they were on different wavelengths, though.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Mason]

And it was funny to see the things. I mean, I. It seemed like a pinnacle issue, you know, the. The tequila bottle and stuff. I just thought it was funny how what's one thing that everyone does. Oh, they pick up glasses and drink. Let's cut to Anton Dr. The shots we get just to prove that he. It's like there's so much that the audience doesn't see behind the scenes that is kind of misleading. But, yeah, I. I feel like they were definitely on different wavelengths.

[Ad]

That is just the theme of the season, just mismatched. Okay, what about KB And Edmund?

[Meg]

They were my favorite couple as far as individually. I really enjoyed both of them, like, watching them. Their personalities. I think they both had, like, very strong, unique, awesome personalities. But then again, it was just. I don't think those personalities would have meshed well at all. I think very different levels. Emotional maturity, again, I think KB Is so far and above in that realm. And I just think, you know, with Edmund, I feel like you can't, like.

I don't want to, say, raise someone, but, like, as a girlfriend or a potential wife, you don't want to feel like you are teaching someone emotional maturity.

[Ad]

Especially when that's, like, her job already. Like, she's already in that realm. You don't want to bring that home every day and have to now babysit your man.

[Meg]

No, no, exactly. I mean, she has an exhausting job already, so you don't want. You don't want to go home and, like, you know, clock in on those hours, too. So, yeah, it was a bummer because I really liked both of them, but it just. Yeah, I cannot see them actually working out.

[Mason]

Yeah, I honestly was rooting for them, too. They were one of the only couples that had the most adult conversations the entire season, I feel like. Or at least they were very, very emotionally intelligent, and you could clearly see that. And they're both being very sincere. But, yeah, kind of what Meg touched on. I feel like their backgrounds were just a little too different and just, you know, just needed to live and grow a little bit more to actually. Actually work out in the Future. Yeah.

[Meg]

But I will say I think they were the most authentic. I think other people, you're kind of like, we want to see more, or we want. Like, we want the real, real you. And I feel like we did see that with them, which I really appreciated. Like, they were not afraid to air it all out for the camera and just put everything out there. And I think, like, as a viewer, I was inspired. I was like, oh, okay. Like, you know, I don't even know if I would have been able to be that open. And so I think that was, like, cool to see.

[Ad]

Yeah. They didn't hold back. Edmund didn't hold back at all. Not even a little bit? No.

[Meg]

No.

[Ad]

He didn't fake it if he wanted to. No. Okay. Sparkle. Meghan and Jordyn, I think they were.

[Meg]

The ones where you saw the most, like, chemistry. Just the way they look at each other, right? It's like, Sparkle, Meghan has this little cute look she gives, and you can tell that they have good banter. They're laughing, and so you see that element. And I think, really, ultimately, as we see in the show, it came down to Megan's lifestyle of, you know, not wanting to give that up. And I think that is a big change to ask for someone in four weeks. So I understand both of their perspectives 100%. But I really liked Jordan a lot. I think it was so cool to see a single dad on the show. We've never seen that before, and I thought that was, like, a really new perspective and a fresh perspective that I really liked seeing.

[Mason]

I think they had chemistry, too. I mean, they were probably the one couple that I thought if they had a shot that it'd be them.

[Ad]

They were very forward thinking, for sure.

[Mason]

I thought for sure. Okay, we got one wedding left. We'll see how this goes. And, wow, what a curveball. It's just like, oh, they're at their apartment. What the hell's going on?

Another apartment breakup. It's like, okay, heartbreak sucks. I think everyone this season, the one thing everyone can relate to, including the viewer, is heartbreak. Yeah, that's all we got.

[Ad]

Would you guys say that was one of the craziest things that kind of stood out this season? That it was just heartbreak after breakup after heartbreak after breakup.

[Meg]

Up. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think so. Because, I mean, too. It's like you always want to end every movie, every book, everything has a happy ending, you know, where it's like, oh, they said yes.

[Ad]

At least.

[Meg]

You're so excited for them. And this one, you're kind of like, where? Where is it?

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Meg]

You know, you're like, we gotta find some silver lining. We gotta find the happy ending. And then when it doesn't happen, you're kind of just like, oh. Like, you're left wanting more.

[Ad]

You know, I'm happy that everyone kind of chose themselves rather than forcing a marriage, because I think. I mean, as we all know, it's harder to jump out of a marriage than it is to just kind of call it quits right then and there. So as much as us viewers wanted a love story or some love story, I'm happy that people ultimately chose themselves.

[Meg]

Absolutely. No, I could not agree more. And I think it's hard when you do have that pressure and you're on that show. Like, no matter how much you're like, I don't feel the pressure. You do a little bit. And so I agree. Like, I do give everyone kudos. And also, I do think, like, breaking up before the altar, you're probably trying to do that to, like, save the feelings of your family and friends and the person. And so it's not fun, to your point as a viewer, but I think they have good intentions in doing that. So. Yeah.

[Ad]

Okay, let's switch up the tune a little bit and play a little game. So it's gonna be most likely two. So I'm gonna read most likely two statements, and then you guys have to point or say who is more likely to do it. So between you two.

[Meg]

Okay. Okay.

[Mason]

Oh, man.

[Meg]

We actually play this, like, on our own.

[Ad]

I know.

[Meg]

Like, in our living room, we have a game, and we'll just, like, read through them.

[Ad]

I wonder if any of these questions will pop up. Okay. Yeah. Who is most likely to plan the perfect date night?

Oh, is that.

[Meg]

I plan. He executes. I'm like, baby, doesn't this restaurant look fun? And then, like, he'll call and make the reservation and, like, bring it to life.

[Ad]

Okay, who is most likely to apologize after a fight first?

[Mason]

Yeah, that was quick. I. I don't know why I say sorry. It's like, a part of my vocabulary. Meg hates when I apologize about things that just don't. Don't need an apology. It's like, oh, sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Meg]

I'm sorry. And then I get mad, and then he's like, I'm sorry.

Come on, you don't have to apologize. It's okay.

[Ad]

Okay, who is most likely to accidentally burn dinner?

[Mason]

Burn dinner? What are you talking about? You act like I'm such a bad cook.

[Meg]

He's not a good cook. We've gotten into this before.

[Mason]

You are.

[Meg]

He's gonna burn it a great. You burn your pancakes all the time, remember?

[Ad]

No, I didn't. Burning pancakes.

[Meg]

I had to teach him, like, okay, medium, low heat. Like, give it some time. Get that golden brown. He's just, like, cranks the heat.

[Ad]

Oh, my God.

[Meg]

Burn. It's you, baby.

[Mason]

I'm getting accustomed to cooking for a significant other, so I'm starting to learn how to cook that way, too.

[Ad]

Medium heat. She's right. With a medium heat, yes. Okay, got it.

[Mason]

I'll write it down.

[Ad]

Most likely to get recognized in public.

[Mason]

Yeah, I'd say me.

[Meg]

Mason gets recognized so much. But the flip side of that is that everybody thinks he's Ben. And so people will. What will they say? They'll be like, oh, the baseball guy. Or, like, they'll say identifiers. That would actually be Ben.

[Mason]

And so I've had that a few times.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Mason]

But it's really crazy when we're both together because people really, really put it together. It's fun when you're in public areas and some people just kind of, like, change, and they're, like, really quiet all of a sudden, and it's like, oh, I don't know what's happening. So together. It's definitely a dead giveaway.

[Ad]

Okay. Most likely to talk through an entire movie.

[Meg]

Oh, yeah, no doubt. No surprise there.

[Mason]

Yeah, that's every week.

[Meg]

Yeah. I'll hit the pause button just to, like, get my two cents right, which.

[Mason]

Is much more respectful. I appreciate that.

[Ad]

I'm asleep half the time before the mov even gets in the thick of it. I'm knocked out, so I have nothing to contribute. Most likely to make friends with strangers while on vacation.

Yeah, makes sense. Most likely to lose their keys or phone.

[Meg]

Yeah. Yeah, I'll take that. I'll take that.

[Ad]

Okay. And last, Most likely to go back on reality tv.

[Mason]

Oh, sure. I. This is not a good. I mean, if you had to pick one, sure. Maybe it's. Yeah.

[Ad]

What kind of show would it be?

[Mason]

Definitely not a dating show, that's for sure.

[Ad]

I would hope not.

[Mason]

If you're trying to find love, it's kind of hard nowadays. Maybe like a competition or, you know, some kind of race or something like that would be cool. Especially with mech. That'd be awesome.

[Meg]

Yeah, that'd be fun.

[Ad]

That'll be fun. Like, what is it, American. What is that challenge show where you go around the world? What's it called?

[Meg]

Amazing Race.

[Ad]

Amazing Race.

[Meg]

I've never Seen that.

[Mason]

But, yeah, Meg is directionally challenged.

[Meg]

We would not do well on that show. We would not do well on that show.

[Mason]

A very difficult show.

[Ad]

Okay, maybe not that one. Okay, well, you guys. What. Just my final, final question. What would you say is your ultimate, biggest takeaway from your experience on Love is Blind?

[Meg]

I think know yourself, be yourself and focus on what's within your control. And then, like, try to forget about the rest and have grace for others. Have grace for others and empathy and knowing that we're only seeing a very, very, very small sliver of actual reality.

[Mason]

That's great, baby.

[Meg]

Top that, top that.

[Mason]

Mine would be just to truly be yourself. I feel like there's. You're you. If you get on the show or something. It's. It's. You're there because you're you. I mean, if you're there trying to find a different reason to be there, it's. It comes across. So, yeah, I think just being authentic in yourself is something that you'll look back on and never regret. So that'd be my advice.

[Meg]

Yeah.

[Ad]

So good. So good. Well, I just want to thank you guys for joining me here on what's the Reality? It's been lovely having you guys and being able to catch up with you guys. Do you guys have any plans on coming to LA anytime soon?

[Meg]

We'll see. I lived in California for 10 years, so I have a lot of good friends out there. So, you know, one day we'll get out there, Mason will meet all the friends. I'll show him, you know, all my old stomping grounds. So it'll happen eventually for sure.

[Mason]

Yeah, we got some stuff that could happen here in the future, so we'll get a. Get out there soon.

[Ad]

Okay, well, if you guys get any updates in between time. In the meantime, this couch is open for you if you want to pop by and. And spill some tea. I'm always open for that.

[Meg]

Yes. Love that id. Thank you so much. And if you're ever in the cities, let us know.

[Ad]

Oh, my gosh. Will do. Will do. So thank you guys again, and I'll talk to you guys later.

[Meg]

Appreciate you.

[Ad]

Okay, bye. Thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of what's the Reality? Be sure to follow us on all social platforms. Hathereality Pod and I will see you next Wednesday.

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[Meg]

Hey, everybody, Ted Danson here to tell.

[Mason]

You about my podcast with my longtime.

[Meg]

Friend and sometimes co host, Woody Harrelson. It's called where everybody knows your name and we're back for another season. It I'm so excited to be joined this season by friends like John Mulaney, David Spade, Sarah Silverman, Ed Helms, and many more. You don't want to miss it. Listen to where everybody knows your name with me, Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson, sometimes wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mason]

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