Lara (3:10)

Hey.

Micah (3:11)

Welcome. Thank you. What's the reality?

Lara (3:13)

Obsessed with it. Love it already.

Micah (3:15)

Very happy to have you.

Lara (3:16)

Thank you for having me.

Micah (3:17)

Girl. What's new? What have you been up to?

Lara (3:19)

You know, doing my thing. Thing? Traveling. Doing what I do best.

Micah (3:24)

I love to travel.

Lara (3:25)

I love to travel.

Micah (3:26)

Like, literally every time I go on your Instagram, you're in a different location, different space. And I'm like, this girl is thriving. Yeah.

Lara (3:32)

No, it's giving, like, what are you running from?

Micah (3:35)

Type vibes.

Lara (3:35)

But, like, I'mma pull up. That's just, like, what I love to do. I feel like nothing, like, gives me like, actual, like, really, like, purpose and joy, like traveling does and just, like, seeing new cultures and stuff. And so it's definitely where I focus my time. So that's what I've been doing.

Micah (3:47)

Love that. I love that. Okay, let me ask you. If you had to go back to the pods tomorrow and do it all over again.

Lara (3:54)

And do what in there?

Micah (3:55)

Fall in love.

Lara (3:56)

I mean, I'd pull up, but, like, just to see what's going on. Maybe like, an undercover agent or something. I don't think I'd be looking for anyone in any of these pods.

Micah (4:05)

I think we couldn't even imagine trying to find love in a pod right now.

Lara (4:09)

No, I couldn't. No, I know too much.

Micah (4:12)

I would be asking different questions, though, for sure.

Lara (4:14)

No, me too. No. Say. Are you going to say yes or no?

Micah (4:17)

Do you want to be married?

Lara (4:18)

Would you like to actually do me? Not us both getting the big no at the altar.

Micah (4:24)

Trauma bond.

Lara (4:25)

Yeah.

Micah (4:26)

Oh, I remember watching yours. I know. That was really heartbreaking to watch.

Lara (4:32)

That was so rough. Also, my hair. Please.

Micah (4:35)

I can't talk about hair. Lashes.

Lara (4:38)

My hair lash. Our hair and lashes.

Micah (4:40)

Please.

Lara (4:41)

What happened to us? They hate us.

Micah (4:43)

No, it literally. We gave you look, like, what you're going through. We act like we were dragged. No, we were.

Lara (4:50)

No, we were. We were dragged. My hair at a rat's nest. I had, like, no makeup. Left on my face. My bra straps are out.

Micah (4:55)

My lashes, like, pleased.

Lara (4:57)

Imagine if they said yes to us in that state. We'd remember that for the rest of our lives.

Micah (5:01)

And that would be our photos. That would be our wedding picture. So it just wasn't meant to be.

Lara (5:05)

It was not meant to be.

Micah (5:06)

Oh, my God. So are you dating single? What's. What's tea?

Lara (5:12)

Yeah, I'm seeing someone. I feel like. Yeah, I. I had to retire the dating shows, so there was no more of that for me.

Micah (5:19)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lara (5:21)

Two. Two and zero or zero and two? And it was. It was time to go home. Wrap it up, babe. You're not finding anyone on tv. Okay?

Micah (5:28)

Your man is not on tv.

Lara (5:32)

He was not.

Micah (5:33)

That's a hard realization. But you have fun.

Lara (5:36)

We had some fun. Yeah.

Micah (5:37)

Yeah. How was your, like, Perfect Match Experience? Experience overall?

Lara (5:41)

I mean, I honestly loved Perfect Match. I don't think you would know because it was like I was just running around the villa crying.

Micah (5:47)

Yeah, right.

Lara (5:48)

But no, I was having fun. No, I was having fun. In between those tears.

Micah (5:52)

Hearts were fun, babe.

Lara (5:54)

They weren't shown. That wouldn't be very interesting. But it was fun. Like, being really close with all the girls was really fun.

Micah (6:00)

Yeah.

Lara (6:01)

And there is a little bit of, you know, that difference of, like, there being, like, more of, like, a friend vibes than it was in Love is Blind. Like, it was more like, all right, who's going to get the guys? Like, it was, like, competition.

Micah (6:11)

You guys had fighting girls.

Lara (6:13)

Yeah. Yeah. No, that's literally what it was.

Micah (6:16)

Yeah.

Lara (6:17)

For. For Perfect Match. Like, obviously there was that, but it really did feel like it was more like the people in the house were really. They were really respectful of each other's relationships in the house. So maybe the people outside the house weren't as much, but, like, the people within the house were really respectful. So it was more like friendship vibes were for.

Micah (6:31)

Yeah. Who are you, like, still friends with?

Lara (6:34)

I'm really close with Tolu. I saw her, like, literally last week.

Micah (6:37)

That's my girl.

Amber Desiree (6:38)

Yeah.

Lara (6:39)

No, that's. I'm obsessed with. She just moved here, too, as well, so I'll have to hang out.

Micah (6:43)

She's so cute.

Lara (6:44)

And then I saw Jess, like, two weeks ago.

Micah (6:46)

Hey, Jess.

Lara (6:47)

Hey, Jess. Yes. Those are probably my two.

Micah (6:49)

I love how this world, like, brings us together. Like, now we're all, like, mutuals. Like, we're literally from different parts of the nation, in the country, and then we're all just like, oh, and I hung out with Tolu and I'm like, oh, me too. Yeah. You know, it's just funny how it all just brings us all together. I love that.

Lara (7:03)

Yeah.

Micah (7:04)

Do you still talk to Kaz at all?

Lara (7:06)

Oh my God, no. Dude, I couldn't even imagine. I mean, I literally, I told him and like, excuse, like my like French, but I was like, you're dead to me. Like, you're literally dead to me. Like after the show. And then obviously time and passed and like you like move on and stuff. And then we like kind of became like somewhat friends because him and his brother like came up like that, like once the show was airing and it was like fine. He literally like stayed like at our place, like one night. Not with me, but he stayed. He stayed like in a guest room.

Micah (7:34)

Yeah.

Lara (7:34)

And it was like totally fine. And then obviously we didn't continue chatting or whatever. I think he had like a girlfriend or something. I'm not really sure. Not my business. Don't care. And then he randomly like unfollowed me, like untagged, like our like collab photos and stuff. And I was like, not you and your one sided beef. He blocked me.

Micah (7:52)

Why do you keep getting blocked? I'm starting to think is you.

Lara (7:56)

I think that's a fair assumption. But it's not like I haven't done anything to any of these people. Not you getting like, I'm not saying anything, I'm not doing anything weird, like. Yeah, I thought it was so weird. I was like, I thought we were fine and all of a sudden it's like blocked. I think like, sometimes like with things like that, maybe it's like their new relationship or something, like wants them to just like, like have like that sort of like.

Micah (8:15)

Yeah. Which makes sense.

Lara (8:17)

Yeah. I don't. Yeah, yeah. Do you care? It doesn't affect my life, but no, I haven't heard from him.

Micah (8:22)

So how are you, like, different now, like, compared to your past relationships? And how are you bringing a new Micah into your new.

Lara (8:28)

Yeah, I mean, I think with each relationship it's like you learn and you like become the person that you're going to be in like the next relationship. And I think like, in love is blind. It's like, obviously, like, I had a lot of like immaturity in like those things. So it is just like a factor of like growing up and like having those life experiences. But it's like, I think I've always, like in the past put a lot of emphasis on like choosing the people that like, choose me.

Micah (8:51)

Yeah.

Lara (8:52)

And it's like, oh, like they really want me. Like, they, like, they show up for me. Like, I want, you know, like, oh, yeah, I guess I want them back. But I think now it's like making sure that you found someone that you want to, like, invest your time in.

Micah (9:03)

Yeah.

Lara (9:03)

And then if it. If it meets, then it meets.

Micah (9:06)

I was like, I feel like I'm going to have to settle for a guy that, like, just wants me. And I'm like, oh, okay.

Lara (9:12)

Yeah.

Micah (9:12)

But like, and then when you find, like, someone that's like, wait, I like you and you like me back.

Lara (9:17)

Yeah. It's like such a different.

Micah (9:18)

Yeah. Like, you don't have to settle for just somebody just because. And like, I don't know. Love is blind will kind of make you feel like, do I have to just do this because I'm committed. Like, now I'm engaged, I have to go through this whole process.

Lara (9:31)

That's the thing about love is line. It's like they. There's not really, like, a backing out, like, culture. Like, it really is, like, looked down upon, like, someone's like, oh, like, I changed my mind. Then people are like, it's because you thought they were ugly.

Micah (9:41)

Right.

Lara (9:42)

And it's like, well, I mean, like, I think you're allowed or maybe didn't.

Micah (9:45)

Want to marry me. Yeah.

Lara (9:46)

Or like, what if you just, like, don't see, like, that marriage when it's like the full circle comes together, whether it's like, family or, like, just live, like, anything. There's so many factors.

Micah (9:54)

Yeah. But, like, I'll be like, oh, because you're ugly.

Lara (9:57)

Looks are too important.

Micah (9:58)

Yeah.

Lara (9:59)

Yeah.

Micah (9:59)

Literally, you didn't have enough money.

Lara (10:02)

Yeah, for sure.

Micah (10:03)

I'm a gold digger. Yeah. Now it's just the.

Lara (10:05)

I feel like you are scared and people, like, are so scared. I think now that's like, where another contrast comes in between, like, our seasons and, like, past seasons and like, maybe ones moving forward is like, people are so worried about, like, being canceled or, like, looking bad. It's like, you don't know. People are showing up as, like, their full, authentic selves or saying everything that they would like to say without judgment.

Micah (10:25)

Yeah. It is different. It's so different. I feel like we were so, like, guards down.

Lara (10:30)

Oh, yeah.

Micah (10:31)

So vulnerable. And now I'm just like, yeah, I feel their pain. Like, season seven was. Was, like, tough. Like, tough to watch. Like, was that the.

Lara (10:41)

Wait, which one?

Micah (10:41)

That was D.C. oh, yeah. Season, Like, I felt like they were pretty vulnerable.

Lara (10:46)

Yeah.

Micah (10:47)

Obviously, like, the whole Ashley and Tyler.

Lara (10:50)

Thing do that sucked. I feel like it Sucks from so many different angles. It was like. It sucks for, like, everyone involved and including them.

Micah (10:57)

Yeah.

Lara (10:57)

Because, like, I can only imagine, like, how hard that scrutiny is. It's like, yeah, like, you can know that you did something wrong and you can be in the wrong, but there's an extra layer of, like, how aggressive, like, fans and, like, stuff can be and, like, how hard that can be on, like, your head.

Micah (11:09)

Yeah. You think that it's just like, it's just me and you against the world, but, like, two people against the world. World. It's like, it's a losing battle every single time. And you can't just, like, when you're in the public eye, you can't just go into a shell and be like, we're just going to take care of our marriage. Because you go online and everybody's like, oh, you're so stupid, and you're this and you're that, and it's just, like, it gets.

Lara (11:28)

And you can say, like, as many times as you want. I think we've both kind of been in these positions where it's like, you can be like, oh, I don't care what people think, or, like, I'm. But it's like, as a human, it's, like, completely natural to feel really bummed or, like, discouraged, pressured, like, when people aren't, like, giving you the validation that, like, you are who you think you are, which is, like, a good person. Like, you know, funny, charismatic, even, like, looks wise. Like, yeah, beautiful. It's like, you know, that really gets into, like, your head whether you want it to or not.

Micah (11:55)

That's so true. And then it's just like, you're. You're spending so much time, you can't even focus on your relationship because you're battling. Yes. Like, you said, yes, I am pretty. Yes, I am smart. Yes, I actually have a lot of other shit going for me. But now I have to spend the rest of my days defending a choice that I made for people that I don't.

Lara (12:13)

And the way people don't forget.

Micah (12:15)

They don't forget.

Lara (12:15)

No. Like, I, like, God. I remember, like, something that was, like, so frustrating for me. I remember, like, on my season, like, people were like, oh, like, she's, like, so stupid. Or, like, she doesn't know what she's doing with her life. Or, like, because she's a dumb blonde, she's a mess.

Amber Desiree (12:28)

Babe.

Lara (12:28)

I was 10, even 12 years younger than the people. I'm the only person who owns a home here. Like, I'm sorry. Like, but it's like, you know, it's like they put that into the world, and it's like you feel like you're spending the rest of your time trying to, like, fight that down, right?

Micah (12:41)

Literally battling allegations your whole, like. Yeah, no, I feel that I was saying earlier that I'm just been labeled, like, the red flag chaser, and I'm like.

Lara (12:52)

Like, I'm not trying.

Micah (12:53)

I'm not trying color blind.

Amber Desiree (12:56)

I don't see.

Micah (12:57)

I don't see color. No, I literally am just, like, I've been fighting those allegations, and I feel like it doesn't matter. Like, I could marry Jesus and they'd be like, wow, she's never going to learn. Yeah, it doesn't matter who I date. Everyone I date moving forward will be considered a red flag.

Lara (13:13)

Just find anyone that will, like, yeah, whatever. There's always going to be someone that has that, like, one insane opinion, and, like, somehow they'll be like, the top comment.

Micah (13:22)

But then it's like, let me come into your house and film your relationship and film your day to day. All right, let's get a little fun and get into the group chat. Things that we probably wouldn't say out loud, but, like, you text your homegirls while you're sitting on the couch. Okay, so Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. What's your hot take? Are you team Blake a hot take?

Lara (13:46)

I think as of now, I'm team Justin Baldoni. I think just because of the information, but it's like, there's so much information that's coming out, and, like, there has to be more. So it's like, I don't want to die on either hill. Yeah, I definitely don't want to die.

Micah (14:00)

I don't want to die on any hill.

Lara (14:01)

Yeah, I don't want to die on.

Micah (14:02)

Any hill that much.

Lara (14:02)

Yeah, I don't care that much. But I also think, like, the public is running with it so hard, cuz, like, they love to see someone in power or someone that they used to look up to fall. Like, I feel like people love to watch, like, someone really great fall. And so they're all, like, coming in. Like, we knew she was mean like this.

Micah (14:19)

He's always been a bit all the montages over here.

Lara (14:22)

Yeah. And it's like coming out of the woodworks. Like, look at this footage. It's like, okay, sit down. But, yeah, I don't know.

Micah (14:28)

It doesn't look good.

Lara (14:29)

Yeah, it does not look good.

Micah (14:31)

Not for her at all.

Lara (14:32)

No.

Amber Desiree (14:32)

It looks really bad.

Micah (14:33)

No. And then it's like, okay, I think the montages are, in my opinion, supporting evidence against her.

Lara (14:39)

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Micah (14:40)

Like, it's just. Does. She just doesn't come off as a nice, genuine person. And I've never watched any of her shows, so I don't have a bias either way.

Lara (14:47)

Oh.

Micah (14:47)

So I don't know much about, like, you are.

Lara (14:50)

I'm really into Gossip Girl. I used to, like, that's your girl.

Amber Desiree (14:52)

Love her.

Lara (14:53)

I think that, like, the sparkle's gone, though. Like, the sparkle's definitely gone now. But I definitely had a sparkle for Blake Lively.

Micah (15:00)

Yeah.

Lara (15:00)

Oh, for sure.

Micah (15:01)

But then she dragged her man into it, so now he's got a battle.

Lara (15:04)

I know, but I'm kind of thinking that maybe her man was, like, a part of it, though. Like, some of the things. Things I've seen, it's like, it kind of does feel like there could be some evidence.

Micah (15:12)

Yeah.

Lara (15:12)

For, like, him, like, kind of making a scene and maybe being, like, controlling or like, I saw something and it was like, blake, babe, the only way out of this is to divorce your husband, blame it all on him and go. I was like, why would I do that?

Micah (15:26)

Just not leave him for dead. That's the only option. It wasn't me, it was him. Gotta go. Imagine.

Lara (15:32)

Gotta blast.

Micah (15:33)

Gotta blast. And he'd be like, what the fuck?

Lara (15:37)

Hey. What?

Micah (15:38)

No, I feel bad. You know what? I felt the worst about the whole situation was when all the photos came out of Justin and his family and friends in the basement.

Lara (15:45)

That was so sad. That was really bad. It was like his movie, it's the Basement. Like, okay. Like, that's so sad. That really is sad.

Micah (15:53)

No, that was like.

Lara (15:55)

I remember when that first came out, and they're just like. I remember. Yeah, yeah. They're like this. They're like, hurry, someone get a pig. Oh, it's like his big moment. That is really sad. I remember when it, like, first came out that, like, Blake and Justin, they were all. Or, sorry, Blake. And, like, all the cast, they're like, oh, my God. Like, Justin Baldoni must be terrible. Like, no one wants to take pictures with him. I'm like, babe, like, he's locked.

Micah (16:18)

Yeah, he can't. He's downstairs family. Well, we'll see how this all plays out. I'm excited to see. I want justice for whoever deserves the justice.

Lara (16:30)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (16:33)

Wasn't that delicious?

Micah (16:35)

So good.

Amber Desiree (16:36)

Your bill, ladies.

Micah (16:37)

I got it. No, I got it.

Amber Desiree (16:40)

Seriously, I insist.

Micah (16:41)

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Lara (16:55)

No.

Micah (16:56)

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Lara (17:05)

The Quarter Pounder with cheese had many great things.

Micah (17:10)

Maple flavored griddle cakes isn't one of them.

Lara (17:15)

McDonald's breakfast comes first.

Micah (17:24)

Y'All. Lara is here in the building. My lib season six sister girl.

Amber Desiree (17:32)

I'm shook right now.

Micah (17:33)

I know. Surprise and welcome.

Amber Desiree (17:35)

I'm so excited for you. Thank you. And for us.

Micah (17:38)

Yeah. I'm happy that you're here. Thank you for carving out a little moment.

Lara (17:44)

Of course.

Micah (17:45)

So update me. What's new?

Amber Desiree (17:48)

Oh my gosh, so much is new. I got a puppy.

Micah (17:51)

We do. We see that.

Amber Desiree (17:52)

Yes. Theodore. That's not my new identity. I'm dating. I'm trying to dabble.

Lara (17:58)

Wait, you're dabbling or you're seeing someone?

Amber Desiree (18:00)

So first of all, can we just like talk about for a second that Raya won't accept me? Oh, they must be like a Sarah Ann fan or something. I don't get that. Like they're just straight up have been wait listed for so long. So it took me way too long. Are you hinging? I'm hinging, yeah. So far so good. I recently moved into a bigger place, so having some fun decorating, dabbling into that a little bit more and then, yeah, just out here trying to find a decent. Trying to find a decent man.

Lara (18:29)

Boy.

Amber Desiree (18:30)

But I went into it this time with the same mindset I went into it before the show, which was like super open minded. Like, we'll just see what's happened. Like, let's just have fun. And then it's like everything happened with the show and then I was dating somebody else for a little while and that didn't work out.

Micah (18:44)

Pause. Because I think that was the last time I saw you. Was the first time I met him.

Amber Desiree (18:48)

Yeah, yeah, he was there and then.

Micah (18:50)

There was like this encrypted post.

Amber Desiree (18:53)

So there's a reason. I think there must have been a reason why I didn't like fully hard launch him. Yeah, he just was a great guy. Just wasn't my guy.

Micah (19:03)

Okay, so tell me about that.

Amber Desiree (19:04)

Wasn't comfortable with the show. Wasn't comfortable with like the attention and stuff that comes with the show.

Micah (19:09)

Interesting.

Amber Desiree (19:10)

Didn't really like how much I posted on social media. Right.

Micah (19:12)

And you posted that thing?

Amber Desiree (19:14)

Yeah.

Micah (19:14)

Tell me, did you post that after you broke up?

Amber Desiree (19:18)

What thing?

Micah (19:19)

The, like. Oh, the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If he doesn't, like, appreciate you or whatever.

Lara (19:26)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (19:27)

So I took those when we were dating, and it was just a really badass photographer that was in Charlotte.

Micah (19:31)

Pictures were hot, right?

Amber Desiree (19:33)

I was so proud of him. But, yeah. And she just had a vision. I mean, I showed up, and she barely spoke English. She's amazing at what she does. And we didn't speak for, like, three hours. And she was like, I'm just gonna spray you with water. She even warned me. She just, like, sprayed me in the face. But it worked out, and I was so proud of you. It was worth it.

Lara (19:48)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (19:50)

No, literally, she was like, put this on. Water, water, water. I was like, okay. And then I walked out of her house, like, soaking wet and drove home in silence.

Micah (19:58)

Yeah.

Lara (19:59)

No radio on.

Micah (20:00)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (20:00)

I was like, what just happened? Like, 9:00am I was like, we're just.

Micah (20:03)

Fully taking advantage of.

Amber Desiree (20:07)

But no. Yeah. I was so proud of the pictures, but he. He felt a little weird about it, and there was actually. So one of my. I did a brand deal with Bellesa. Loud and proud. I love Bellesa as a brand. Like, you know, female empowerment. And I did a brand deal early on, and we were dating, like, shortly after the show, and apparently his co workers, like, made fun of him for it. And so that was a little. A little insight. Yeah. And I was like, are you kidding me?

Micah (20:33)

I was like, no. Are they okay?

Amber Desiree (20:36)

I.

Micah (20:37)

It's.

Amber Desiree (20:37)

They're not there.

Micah (20:39)

They're so fragile.

Amber Desiree (20:41)

Yeah. They're wildly unwell. But anyway, so, yeah. I mean, great guy. Just wasn't your guy. Wasn't my guy. We wish him well.

Micah (20:47)

Yeah. Do you still talk or.

Amber Desiree (20:49)

No.

Micah (20:49)

Okay.

Amber Desiree (20:50)

He let me know he had to block me and all my friends.

Micah (20:52)

The blocking is crazy because she just told me she sung a few block lists.

Lara (20:56)

Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand.

Amber Desiree (20:57)

I was like, thanks for the heads up.

Lara (20:59)

They don't want to see us thriving.

Amber Desiree (21:00)

Yeah. You know what? It's probably what it did. So people were like, is he okay after I post those pictures? And I was like, I don't know. He has me.

Micah (21:07)

I'm blocked.

Lara (21:08)

He for sure saw them, though. They popped in. A group chat, probably. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Micah (21:12)

No, he saw it on his. For you. Oh, somebody sent it.

Lara (21:16)

Yeah.

Micah (21:16)

This shoe?

Amber Desiree (21:17)

Yeah.

Micah (21:17)

Anymore.

Lara (21:17)

This yours?

Amber Desiree (21:20)

Yeah. His co workers made fun of him then.

Micah (21:22)

Oh, my God, I'm giving so much shade.

Amber Desiree (21:24)

He's such a nice guy.

Micah (21:25)

Yeah. So nice.

Amber Desiree (21:26)

So nice. But I don't need nice.

Micah (21:28)

We don't need nice. So. Okay, let's Take it back as far as you want, because I just want to talk about Jeremy for a second. Do y'all chat at all?

Amber Desiree (21:39)

No, but he.

Micah (21:40)

Cause you people don't believe me.

Amber Desiree (21:42)

People don't believe me. And I actually thought about whether I was gonna, like, post a screenshot or not. He DMed me randomly, maybe in, like. I forget when I sent that, when I posted that video. Maybe like November.

Micah (21:54)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (21:55)

December. And it was. It was kind of what you, like, would think it would be, like a year and a half later. It was like, hey. It took me so long to realize, like, I'm an idiot. Yeah. I never responded. I don't even know if I still.

Lara (22:07)

With Sarah Ann. Oh. They had broken up. And then he.

Amber Desiree (22:10)

They broke up a hot. A hot minute ago.

Micah (22:12)

Yeah. Wasn't it, like, right after the reunion?

Lara (22:14)

Yeah, yeah, they did. Yeah.

Micah (22:17)

All that for what?

Amber Desiree (22:19)

Yeah.

Lara (22:19)

Her big stand up.

Amber Desiree (22:20)

Yeah.

Micah (22:22)

Okay. So you never responded.

Amber Desiree (22:25)

I never responded. And so many people on Tick Tock are so funny. They're like, she's full of. She would have given the receipts. I'm like, I'm grown.

Micah (22:31)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (22:31)

First and foremost, I've moved past it. Like, the guy's been dragged enough. It's like, I have no interest.

Micah (22:38)

Yeah. Your Tick Tock. I love your Tick Tocks, by the way. And your Tick Tock friends are. They love you.

Amber Desiree (22:44)

I mean, what the.

Micah (22:45)

They love you.

Amber Desiree (22:45)

They'll ride at night.

Micah (22:46)

Yeah.

Lara (22:46)

They love your TikTok following.

Micah (22:49)

Yeah. I love you.

Lara (22:51)

I love the random people that, like, go so hard in your comments. I posted, like, a bikini picture yesterday and people were commenting, like, whatever. They comment. Just like, a few.

Amber Desiree (22:57)

I was also commenting. I was like, go off queen.

Lara (22:59)

Yeah. And it was like, this one lady was like, after every single person snack, like, coming for everyone's like, what'd you say? Like, you wouldn't know.

Amber Desiree (23:06)

Yeah.

Lara (23:07)

I was like, yes. I was like, who is this? Yes.

Amber Desiree (23:09)

I love. I love them. Yeah. Yeah.

Micah (23:11)

I love that you deserve all the support and all the love. And something else is, like, so admirable about you is you still are such a woman in the workforce, balancing work. It's casual, baby. Yeah. This is casual. She's like, I just clocked out. I'm on my lunch break. Really?

Amber Desiree (23:29)

Just on my laptop.

Micah (23:30)

No, literally, that's insane. But how are you balancing? Like, what are we a year later and you're balancing and you're making it work? How is that? Are you a lot of Byvans?

Amber Desiree (23:44)

A lot of caffeine, honey. A lot of prayer? No. Yeah. It's a lot. It's crazy. Long hours. Like, when I started dating, literally like a couple weeks ago. You guys, this is fresh. And so they're gonna probably watch this and be like, what? But they lol.

Micah (24:00)

But all them.

Amber Desiree (24:02)

But yeah, it's tough. It's tough. Like, I still travel a ton for work. I love my job. I actually just got a raise and some kudos, so I'm excited about that and a little bit more responsibility. So, yeah, sometimes I think about it, I'm like, girl, you're doing too damn much. And then I'm like, when am I ever. Like, I'm not married. I don't have kids.

Micah (24:19)

Yeah, this is the time.

Amber Desiree (24:20)

Sure, I have baby Theo, but I'm like, other than that, I'm like, when am I gonna have the time to like, travel to Barcelona for two weeks, go to London, go to la, go.

Micah (24:27)

To all these different places? Yeah, we went on like the tour, post show and all that stuff. But is there anything that you want to, like, clear up, talk about maybe secrets that happen BTS that we didn't.

Amber Desiree (24:38)

Talk about on our season?

Micah (24:39)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (24:40)

Oh, secrets, Honey, I want a secret.

Micah (24:44)

You have one.

Lara (24:44)

No, I want one. Come on.

Micah (24:47)

Wait, who was your number two?

Amber Desiree (24:48)

Ben.

Micah (24:50)

Ben. I dated Ben for a while.

Amber Desiree (24:54)

Your. Your.

Micah (24:56)

My track record.

Amber Desiree (24:57)

Well, I was like, what?

Micah (24:59)

No, literally, you couldn't. Like.

Amber Desiree (25:00)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Micah (25:01)

No one could have predicted any of.

Amber Desiree (25:03)

You were following the vibes.

Micah (25:04)

Okay.

Amber Desiree (25:05)

Which you have?

Micah (25:05)

The vibes led me astray. Those vibes.

Lara (25:09)

The vibes are, did you guys have someone, like, in your, like, season that was like, oh, like the bad boy over there. Like, we had someone who was like, very strongly, like, yeah, I got engaged to it. Yours was the bad boy.

Amber Desiree (25:18)

Yeah. Or Trevor.

Lara (25:20)

Or Trevor was like, actually, all the.

Amber Desiree (25:22)

Bars were the best.

Lara (25:22)

Like, they talk in the woman. The woman's like, lounge was like, oh, like, he's like a bad boy.

Amber Desiree (25:30)

That guy that made a joke out of it and thought it was for blind people. Austin, Remember, he was there for like a day.

Micah (25:36)

Was he the one that said he's gonna sell all of our phone numbers and social media?

Amber Desiree (25:41)

Yes, he realized he's actually sell all.

Micah (25:43)

Of our phone number.

Amber Desiree (25:44)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Micah (25:45)

Dead ass.

Amber Desiree (25:46)

But I don't know. All of ours were all bad guys. You guys had better.

Lara (25:49)

Like, we had good guys, but we definitely had good guys. But I remember, like, it was. It's so funny cuz, like, you, like, look back on it. You're like, that's so odd. But like, everyone thought like, the like, Emma was Zach, which is, like, so random. Zach who?

Amber Desiree (26:02)

Are you kidding me?

Lara (26:03)

No, I swear to God. He was like, people be like, oh, he's sad.

Amber Desiree (26:06)

He's smooth.

Micah (26:07)

No, like, because he was like, yeah.

Lara (26:10)

His pods were getting, like, hot. Like, spicy talk. Like, dude, it was crazy. It was like the image that I had in my head of Zach was so, like, leather jacket.

Micah (26:19)

Like, he is smooth. I met him in person, and I was like, he's a smooth talker.

Lara (26:24)

He is a smooth talker.

Amber Desiree (26:25)

For, like. That's so crazy. Make up your own.

Lara (26:28)

Yeah. Like, you have, like, all these.

Micah (26:29)

Your brain. Yeah, yeah.

Lara (26:31)

Also another thing, I was. When I was watching the new season, it was like, the guy that was, like, talking about his height and stuff and how he was 5 8, how.

Micah (26:38)

He'S a short king.

Amber Desiree (26:39)

Yeah, I love him.

Lara (26:41)

And I was like, everyone knew everything in our pods. Like, respectfully, we all knew everyone's exact height. Like, we all knew everything. Like, did you guys.

Micah (26:50)

I didn't. I remember going into my date after you with Clay, and he's like, yeah, I just talked to Lara. She told me she had a fat ass.

Amber Desiree (26:57)

That.

Micah (26:58)

What the Is going. You.

Lara (27:00)

I do, too.

Amber Desiree (27:01)

You know what? I did. I didn't say anything. I did at the time. At the time. I did. I was proud of it. I was struck a little bit now, but yeah, yeah, I was proud of you.

Micah (27:08)

Information. I want to know.

Amber Desiree (27:09)

Good morning, go off and then remember.

Micah (27:11)

You had me convinced that he looked.

Amber Desiree (27:12)

Remember I drew that picture of him. The fact that none of those. I was an artist.

Micah (27:17)

I still have it. I was like, what is he? I didn't. We didn't talk clean. I did not talk low. And they did.

Amber Desiree (27:22)

He described himself to his damn toenails. I mean, I knew. I knew the color of his toenail. I mean, it was literally, like, to the detail.

Micah (27:30)

So I was like, got biceps, 12 pack, curly hair. And I'm just like, is this Taj Maury?

Amber Desiree (27:38)

No hands on his brother.

Micah (27:40)

And she was like, yeah, he looks like Taj Maury. And I'm like.

Amber Desiree (27:45)

And I, like, stuck it up next to, like, the wall. And I was like, you know what?

Micah (27:48)

And then I dragged him on.

Lara (27:49)

How did I not get on there?

Amber Desiree (27:50)

I don't know. He drew a picture of me. Or maybe it was.

Micah (27:53)

I still have him.

Amber Desiree (27:53)

No, Trevor drew a picture of me, and I looked like this, like, old colonial woman that was, like, with a toupee.

Micah (27:59)

Like a handmaid.

Amber Desiree (28:00)

Yeah, like a handmade. I was like. He put me in, like, this cloak or something. And people were like, what?

Micah (28:05)

That was a ton.

Lara (28:06)

Not a toupee.

Micah (28:07)

No, literally, I still have that drawing.

Amber Desiree (28:10)

That was my best work. It deserves to be framed.

Micah (28:12)

You know, I might post it.

Lara (28:15)

No, you need to. Wasn't that delicious?

Micah (28:20)

So good. Your bill, ladies. I got it. No, I got it.

Amber Desiree (28:25)

Seriously, I insist.

Micah (28:26)

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Lara (28:39)

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Micah (28:40)

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Amber Desiree (28:56)

You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns.

Lara (28:59)

McDonald's breakfast comes first.

Micah (29:09)

So season eight, how do we feel?

Amber Desiree (29:12)

Okay, season eight, I'm locked in. Yeah, I'm locked in. I'm best. I'm not gonna lie. I first saw the, like, the cast, like, the preview, and I was like, womp, womp, Minnesota, keep it, yeah, moving. But I'm locked in. And I was way too excited about those men. And I don't know what the hell my problem is, because they disappoint 10 out of 10 times. I don't understand.

Micah (29:32)

Every time. But you don't have to be on TV to be disappointed by a man.

Amber Desiree (29:36)

I mean, dead ass. But you know who didn't disappoint? Daniel.

Micah (29:39)

Daniel.

Amber Desiree (29:40)

I mean, Daniel and Taylor. I'm rooting for them. I'm only up into the point to.

Micah (29:44)

Where he's our short king.

Amber Desiree (29:45)

He's our short king.

Micah (29:46)

Our short king.

Amber Desiree (29:46)

And short kings need more than that.

Micah (29:47)

He didn't even look short, like, when they met. Oh, my God. When she takes her heels off, they're like.

Lara (29:53)

I was so nervous. I was, like, seeing. I was like, okay, how much space is above his head? How much is above hers? Like, behind the wall. And I was, like, so nervous. And then they met, and it, like, actually worked. I will say something in the contracts. I feel like everyone's like, oh, like, they're so cute. I do think that they're really cute. I think that they have good chemistry. And, like, they have surprised me a little bit. Like, I think they will do good. But I have to say, like, a woman's intuition is rarely wrong. And I do feel as if he may have known who she was beforehand. I just think that the way he was, like, not shutting it down when she was asking him about, like, yeah, you followed me and unfollow him. And he Was like. I mean, I don't know why that would have happened. And then when she pulled out her phone and started looking, he was like, so if my name is there, like, it's just because, like, there is a good chance. And, like, that would freak me out if that was the case. But there's also a sense that it could have been, like, completely innocent or it could have not happened. So there's, like, lots.

Micah (30:44)

Or it's like, is he the guy that just goes on Instagram and just like, she's hot. Follow.

Amber Desiree (30:48)

She's like every other brunette white guy. You know what I mean? Like, right off the bat, you know, probably has the same. The same damn photos. They're all, like, copy and paste of each other. And then she brought, like, she saw somebody else. But I do agree, Like, I didn't know if it was editing or if it was like. Because I was like, say with your chest if you're like, I did not follow you.

Micah (31:06)

Yeah, well, he didn't know. He didn't know.

Amber Desiree (31:09)

I know, but it's like, you know.

Lara (31:10)

Guys, if he didn't know, though, that's good, though, because then maybe at least he didn't know what she was. Yeah, maybe he did it, but maybe.

Micah (31:15)

He wasn't like, no, I would have been freaked out. I would have been freaked out.

Amber Desiree (31:18)

Because when someone's so sure, it, like, it doesn't matter. Like, I guess. Yeah. How much confidence you have, you're kind of like.

Micah (31:22)

Like, oh, but he was. But also, like, I don't know. I do feel like he was very, like, attentive to her in that moment. Like, I'm not gonna, like, say that he wasn't. He's, like, holding her hand. He's like, do your research.

Amber Desiree (31:33)

Yeah.

Micah (31:34)

See what you need to see. We can talk about whatever.

Lara (31:36)

Everything has shown up as, like a very, very good, honest y'all.

Micah (31:39)

And him being like, if you want to go home, we'll go together. If you want to go to Honduras, we'll go together. And she's just like, he does seem.

Lara (31:45)

Like a really nice guy. And their families are really, like, wholesome. They seem to get a along.

Micah (31:50)

And his sister, I wouldn't have expected that to, like.

Amber Desiree (31:53)

Yeah, she's.

Micah (31:54)

Yeah, she's really sweet.

Amber Desiree (31:55)

Obsessed. I mean.

Lara (31:57)

Yeah, I could see them going the distance.

Amber Desiree (31:59)

Yeah, I hope.

Lara (32:00)

I didn't expect it either.

Micah (32:02)

Yeah, I could see it. Yeah, I hope so. Okay, so Joey and Monica, where we at with that? First of all, I just want to say I feel like Joey is like, if Trevor And Jeremy had a baby.

Lara (32:17)

That's true.

Amber Desiree (32:18)

I.

Micah (32:18)

If they had a baby and a wig. Yeah. With, like, the hair and the Hawaiian shirts.

Amber Desiree (32:23)

Oh, I forgot about the Hawaiian shirts. See? And. Okay, so here's. Let's talk about the Hawaiian shirts for a second.

Micah (32:30)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (32:30)

I'm also rooting for Joey and Monica. I'm gonna end with the positivity in a second. But I just feel like they're cut from the same cloth. You know what?

Micah (32:40)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (32:42)

I'm super goofy and weird, like, different from that. But it's like. I just think that's so nice. Like, when you kind of, like, meet someone that, like, matches your vibe. And I feel like they do that. That. But Joey, like, he deserves to wear the Hawaiian shirts. I'm sorry.

Micah (32:55)

It's his personality.

Amber Desiree (32:56)

He was like, I like it.

Micah (32:57)

This is what I do.

Amber Desiree (32:58)

Where he's like, I'm not doing it to get a rise out of people.

Micah (33:00)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (33:01)

People uncomfortable and to, like, you know, wear them at inappropriate.

Micah (33:04)

I love that. Hawaiian shirts trigger you.

Amber Desiree (33:08)

Why are you turning red?

Micah (33:10)

He's pissed. Hawaiian.

Lara (33:11)

Hawaiian shirt. No.

Micah (33:14)

That was such a point of contingency.

Amber Desiree (33:16)

In her engagement committee association.

Lara (33:20)

Being like. Yeah, it was, like, Hawaiian. They were gonna be Hawaiian do shirt.

Amber Desiree (33:24)

Yeah. Literally.

Micah (33:25)

Yeah. So him and Monica, I feel like their, like, connection is rare to find, like, two people that are that jolly, that happy. That's jolly.

Lara (33:35)

Voices in the other sides of the pods. And I was like, these.

Micah (33:37)

No, they're loving it. No, that is a match.

Amber Desiree (33:40)

I think they're, like, accepting. Probably more so than most.

Micah (33:43)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (33:43)

You know what I mean?

Lara (33:44)

Yeah, they. They. Yeah, they're. I could definitely see them working. I don't know, but I feel like sometimes, like, with this show, it's like I just expect the ones that seem the most obvious to not turn out.

Micah (33:56)

Something's gonna happen.

Lara (33:57)

I mean, I guess their first thing that they've, like, ran into was, like, the family's disapproval or.

Amber Desiree (34:03)

Yeah, Sister.

Micah (34:04)

Yeah.

Lara (34:04)

Yeah.

Micah (34:05)

But before that, the fam jam that would have ran me out the door.

Amber Desiree (34:08)

But he love. I think he loved.

Micah (34:10)

He loved it. They were playing, like, instruments and they had, like, a party and he loved it. And that's. And she was, like, embarrassed. I'm like, sis, you know, you do this. You know, y'all do this.

Lara (34:20)

Sit down and get your drunk.

Micah (34:21)

Yeah. No, literally. Literally. Literally. But then. Okay, then what was the conversation to the sister's man that he dated Monica for a bit.

Amber Desiree (34:33)

Oh, yeah. And he made a little joke to where he was like, oh, you're just you're still trying to get.

Micah (34:37)

And she was like, yeah, I think you're better. Yeah. So Monica dated her sister's man.

Amber Desiree (34:43)

Yes.

Micah (34:43)

But I guess it wasn't, like, too intense. I think they talked is how Monica said they talked for a little bit. And then she was like, I think you'd be better for my sister. And so then Joey was making jokes like, oh, you still, like, want my girl, or. Yeah, jokingly. And they were all kind of just joking about it. So then this sister came in hot.

Lara (35:03)

Okay. Yeah, you guys are saying, like, a jealous policy thing.

Amber Desiree (35:06)

Yeah, that conversation get. I mean, we'll see what plays out. But that conversation gave, like, why you, not me?

Micah (35:11)

Vibes. Yeah, well, she did. She literally was like, I'm older. I should be getting married first.

Amber Desiree (35:16)

Yeah.

Micah (35:16)

So imagine you're sitting there on the couch and your sister got two men and gave you the one that she didn't want. And then you're still not married. I don't know.

Amber Desiree (35:29)

I think she's, like, five years old.

Lara (35:30)

I mean, also just, like. Like, being. I mean, I'm an only child, so I want to know. But I could see, like, you know, deep down, like, you love your sibling. But I'm sure there's, like, a little bit of a competitive nature, whether you want to admit it or not, like, deep down.

Micah (35:40)

And, like, I am one of seven and I have four younger sisters. And if any of them turned around and was like, I'm getting married tomorrow, I'd be like, hell, yeah. Yeah, congratulations. Nothing but support.

Lara (35:52)

Maybe.

Micah (35:52)

Like, it's just not your time. It's just not my time. I'm sorry, but. And then on tv.

Lara (35:57)

And television.

Micah (35:58)

On tv.

Lara (35:58)

Wanted that for herself.

Micah (36:00)

Imagine wanting that, though. That's really sad. Yeah, that was really mean. She's like, well, I hope you don't get this. Like, get married and then get divorced. And she's like.

Lara (36:07)

She's like, she likes that's not your type. Like, what is your man Like, Yeah.

Micah (36:11)

She literally, like, that's not your type. You're going to get married and then divorced. I should be married first.

Lara (36:16)

That's also just really negative. Like, you're already, like, having all the.

Micah (36:18)

Do after the fan jam. She should have been in.

Lara (36:20)

Like, take your fam jam.

Amber Desiree (36:24)

Get the hell out of here.

Micah (36:25)

Okay, y'all. So moving on to Devin and Virginia. What do we think? What do we think?

Lara (36:31)

Okay, I like, on paper or, like, on my screen, like, watching them, I'm like, okay. Like, yeah, I love it. She's a ride or die she's stunning. Maybe a little out of his league, in my opinion, but, like, just, like, really has it together. But I can't help but, like, think of other things I've seen. Like, I've seen Tea on Tick Tock that he's like, what? Something funky.

Amber Desiree (36:51)

Shit, I haven't seen that already. The only damn one I haven't seen.

Lara (36:54)

Yeah. Unless I'm mixing it up funky.

Amber Desiree (36:57)

I mean, I hope not. Loyal, Sketchy.

Lara (37:00)

I think that's what funky comes out. I think.

Micah (37:02)

So how was it? What is it?

Lara (37:04)

Maybe unloyal or something.

Amber Desiree (37:06)

Damn.

Lara (37:07)

Yeah.

Micah (37:08)

I really like Virginia. I really like their connection right now.

Lara (37:11)

I really like their connection right now, too.

Amber Desiree (37:12)

I was gonna give her kudos because she's 33 and 28, and I was 32 or 33 when I was in there. And I, like, cut anybody that didn't have a three in their age.

Micah (37:20)

No, I did the same thing. I didn't give them a chance.

Amber Desiree (37:23)

Like, I feel like at first she was, like, hesitant, and then I was like, go ahead. Like, you know, I love how she.

Micah (37:29)

Paints such a wholesome life and then goes, but I'm gonna be a millionaire. So. Yeah, sign this.

Amber Desiree (37:35)

Well, the generation.

Micah (37:37)

She said. I mean, I'll be at your basketball games and I'll be the cute housewife.

Amber Desiree (37:41)

But wait, we gotta talk about the whole prenup thing. Because I'm sorry. Any man that gets butt hurt over a prenup.

Lara (37:47)

This is what I was thinking about this morning. No one has ever been angry about.

Micah (37:50)

A prenup when it's a man. Right.

Lara (37:53)

Whoever's right.

Micah (37:55)

More broke, is upset.

Lara (37:56)

Worried about the prenup.

Amber Desiree (37:57)

Yeah.

Micah (37:57)

It's like, when you present a prenup, it should be like, okay, yeah, not. Well, we can talk about it because.

Amber Desiree (38:02)

Yeah.

Micah (38:03)

Ain't nothing to talk about in general. It's like, to protect everyone.

Lara (38:07)

Like, we go in with it.

Micah (38:09)

Yeah.

Lara (38:09)

We get a leave with what we came into it, and then, like, what we grow together. So it's like no one that, like, is well off as mad about a prenup.

Micah (38:18)

Yeah. Because they're like, I want to protect my stuff. Yeah.

Lara (38:21)

I mean, if I was marrying a billionaire, like, I'm gonna throw fit, too. But, like, that's not the point. Like, it's just weird for them, especially if they, like, you know, do feel like they're, like, kind of in, like, equal places in life, I guess.

Micah (38:32)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (38:33)

Well, she's. She is five years older. Five or six years older.

Lara (38:36)

So she was talking about paying off his debt. I Was like, babe, you're better than me.

Micah (38:39)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (38:41)

I was like, yeah, well, he has medical debt. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.

Lara (38:44)

Yeah.

Micah (38:45)

And student loans.

Amber Desiree (38:47)

Yeah.

Micah (38:47)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (38:47)

I don't know. The whole prenup thing.

Micah (38:49)

I don't know. I think she's wholesome. I think she's sweet. I think she's beautiful. Yeah.

Lara (38:52)

She's.

Micah (38:53)

I think. I mean, yeah, Team Virginia for sure. Definitely rooting for them.

Amber Desiree (38:57)

I'm so. I'm still down with Devin, but I think it's, like, his parents that got in his head about the whole thing.

Lara (39:02)

I'm still rooting for them too. Maybe I made up. Maybe I had a dream about this. Tick tock drama.

Amber Desiree (39:06)

Let's get to the ones we're not rooting.

Lara (39:07)

I need to go offline.

Micah (39:08)

So the love triangle that. With the Molly Lauren was his name Dave triangle, David or whatever, he.

Lara (39:16)

The thing about was so crazy about watching so much of the pods. It's like all of the people who I thought weren't going to win in the love triangle won. Like, I thought he was gonna end up with Molly. I thought that that Madison girl was gonna be on the show. Like, why was she my entire screen, and then all of a sudden, she's not in Mexico or Honduras. I'm like, babe, where'd you go? Like, it was your show. Yeah. She's on Perfect Matches where she is. Oh, my God.

Amber Desiree (39:41)

I'm sure she had character development.

Lara (39:43)

I honestly, at first, it was, like, giving, like, the Madison show. I was like, oh, she said, I'm leaving here with something.

Micah (39:48)

Yeah. And if I don't, no one else will.

Lara (39:50)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (39:51)

Honestly, it was giving. I'm leaving here with something.

Lara (39:53)

Yeah. I honestly thought at first that she was gonna go Mason just because of their connection. But then. Yeah, I almost was, like, thinking. I was like, I feel like she chose the one that she felt was harder to get. I feel like Mason was like, I.

Micah (40:05)

Want you, whereas Alex, like, challenged her every single day.

Lara (40:08)

Also, she was getting spicy in her pot. She was like, yeah, I love cream pies.

Micah (40:11)

Right. Pickles.

Amber Desiree (40:13)

The cream pie was crazy.

Lara (40:14)

What's going on? I want to taste your. I'll always eat your pickle. I was, like, writing it down.

Micah (40:19)

I feel so.

Amber Desiree (40:20)

I feel like I'm gonna use that.

Micah (40:21)

I feel really, really sad for Meg because I feel like, kind of like you said, like, how Madison was like, I'm leaving here with something. It gave. If I don't leave with my dream man. You're not leaving with my dream man.

Amber Desiree (40:32)

Yeah.

Micah (40:32)

You're not Leaving with any man.

Amber Desiree (40:33)

Well, okay, so we have to. I do want to speak on that for a second, because I agree 100%, but I think there's also, like, this weird. You don't understand it until you're in it. When you're in the pods, you want to be chosen by, like, everybody.

Lara (40:45)

Oh, yeah.

Amber Desiree (40:45)

You know what I mean? And every date that you're in, you want to, like, be liked, and you want to like them, and you want them to like you the most. Whether it's like they're. You're just so unsure. It changes all the time on who your number one is or who number two is. But it's like. So I feel like she was in with Mason, and I'm like. Like, hopefully she didn't already know for sure it was going to be Alex. But it was very much giving, like.

Micah (41:06)

But still like me.

Amber Desiree (41:07)

Yes.

Micah (41:07)

Yeah. Don't stop liking me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Amber Desiree (41:10)

So she was like, I'm gonna talk about the cream pies and the pickles.

Micah (41:12)

Yeah, yeah.

Lara (41:12)

I was like, don't you have a boyfriend?

Micah (41:14)

Yeah.

Lara (41:15)

Usually that's when you, like, break up with your other people.

Micah (41:17)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lara (41:18)

And then. But she continued to talk to him, and then he continued to spill that he wanted to be with her after. She could have broken up with him, and that would have never came out.

Micah (41:25)

Yeah. But she needed that knowledge.

Lara (41:26)

I honestly thought Meg was going to be, like, all right, like, perfect.

Amber Desiree (41:28)

I was out of here.

Lara (41:29)

So I was really happy that she didn't. I felt like it was at the beginning kind of show, like, the way it was showing her. It was more like she was like.

Micah (41:36)

It'S gonna be great. He's mine.

Lara (41:38)

Like, it's great. I gotta leave. Like, I'm getting out of here. Like, it was almost like. But it was almost too much. And then when she came, she was like, actually, I'm not gonna take that. I was like, oh, that's who you actually are.

Micah (41:47)

You think if, like, Madison would have just came in and been like, oh, we broke up, and that's it, that she would have went in there and been like, am I your second? Or would she have been, like. Kept that same energy?

Lara (41:56)

I don't think she would have known.

Amber Desiree (41:57)

If, because of the order of the dates, I don't think she ever would have known.

Micah (42:03)

So, okay, why do we think he did not pick Molly? First of all, I have my own thoughts. I think she was too strong and too very much. Like, if you want me or if you don't, I'm good. Either way. And I think he wanted someone to kind of, like, crawl for him. Not saying, like, Lauren did, but I feel like she was too, like, sure of herself.

Amber Desiree (42:21)

Yeah.

Lara (42:21)

Yeah.

Micah (42:22)

And it irritated her, like, take it or leave it. Like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah.

Lara (42:25)

And Lorna's more like, come on, like, tell me that you want to be with me. Like, I want to be with you. Don't you want to be with me? Maybe that was like, some sort of, like, an ego thing.

Micah (42:32)

It's like Molly still put her cards on the table and she was like, you're the only one I'm seeing.

Amber Desiree (42:36)

But, you know, I'm not going to lie. Like, that whole situation did trigger me a bit, because with my season, it was very similar, if you kind of put them side by side. Different, but similar to where when I was having the conversations with Jeremy in my season and then I was going out into the lounge, I was the quiet one. So I was the one you were in.

Lara (42:53)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (42:53)

And then Sarah Ann was being very loud and vocal about who she was dating. And so it does, like, kind of weigh on you. Where we're different is I didn't go on the pods and be like, you better pick me. Like, what the fuck? But it was. He told me he was saying one thing. Like, I'm sure I wish we saw a little bit where David was telling Lauren, oh, no, I didn't say that to her.

Micah (43:12)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (43:13)

And then we can see damn well that he had said it to Molly. We're like, he was kind of. I mean, but it's tough when you're in there because it's like your head is spinning and you like all these people and you're trying to not say the wrong thing, but it's like, I think it's going to come out in the wash when they do the whole meet the friend situation and Molly's there. And then, of course, when Lauren, like, sees it all play back.

Lara (43:32)

Yeah. I feel like that was like, one of the first of, like, 99 red flags that he had. Like, he would literally walk in the pods. He goes, oh, you're 30 old and this girl's damn.

Amber Desiree (43:39)

Well, he's like, you're not hot anymore. And then he's like, I've cheated on. I'm sorry. I cheated on my last girlfriend, and I'm super shallow. And if I don't like their. If I get the ick from their Instagram, I don't go on a date with them.

Micah (43:48)

You. He's like, most people only want me Because I play baseball.

Lara (43:51)

I'm like, what, when you were six, babe?

Amber Desiree (43:53)

Like, no, I'm telling you, the audacity of the mid ass looking six foot tall, man needs study.

Lara (43:59)

Just living in a bare empty apartment.

Micah (44:01)

He's.

Lara (44:01)

He's a business owner, but he can't afford his business. He doesn't know what. He doesn't. She said, what's your. What's your business? Your business own. It's like a medical thing.

Amber Desiree (44:13)

Literally. He said thing. His own business? Yeah.

Lara (44:16)

Your business.

Amber Desiree (44:17)

Yeah.

Micah (44:17)

No. So then what business?

Lara (44:18)

He paid for the LLC, like license.

Amber Desiree (44:21)

Yeah.

Micah (44:24)

10 businesses is that I'm gonna start. Okay. Get to him. So then now he's spending his days beating our girl down over.

Amber Desiree (44:33)

I think he's rumors.

Lara (44:34)

He's talking. Oh, he hates that.

Amber Desiree (44:35)

We've all been into it. He's trying to find a way out. He's.

Micah (44:38)

Oh, my God.

Amber Desiree (44:39)

He's not into it. And so he's rude too. I'm like, I think it's ridiculous.

Lara (44:42)

And then her hair, your fa. She wakes up in the morning, she's like, she's like, you're shiny.

Micah (44:47)

Hate about me.

Amber Desiree (44:47)

And he's like, she's like, I want.

Micah (44:48)

To be doing hairstyle that. She just had braids.

Lara (44:51)

Her hairstyle with her. No, they woke up in the morning, they're like this, like in bed together. And he goes, goes, your face is really wet.

Micah (44:56)

Oh.

Amber Desiree (44:57)

And she was like, I wanted to be doing. I'm like, drop the skincare routine, sis.

Lara (44:59)

Yeah. I was like, your skin looks incredible. Yes.

Amber Desiree (45:02)

And her cute French braids. I was like, I hope she did those herself. And he's like, he does like, little jabs, which just means, like, he has deep rooted insecurities. So he's just.

Micah (45:10)

That started in the past and like.

Lara (45:11)

With his whole like, shindig with like this guy that she, like, was seeing before. It's like one. He wouldn't care if, like, he's mad that she was, but not him. That's the whole thing.

Micah (45:24)

Like, you thought you were going to come in the pods. Because he kind of did allude to the fact that he was like, oh, I thought it was just a bunch of us who couldn't find person and we were all just out here.

Lara (45:32)

Yeah. What's wrong with you?

Micah (45:34)

You were the only one that couldn't get any. Yeah. Mad that she was not a virgin before y'all met.

Amber Desiree (45:39)

Yeah.

Lara (45:39)

Yeah.

Micah (45:39)

Like, he literally said, oh, I can't sleep in the same bed with her knowing that she was in the bed with somebody else.

Amber Desiree (45:44)

That again. Where did you think? Such a reach. That is such a cop out.

Micah (45:47)

That is such a reach.

Lara (45:48)

He just wants it out for sure. But he's like. Doesn't want to get, like, a bad guy at it.

Micah (45:52)

Yeah. But trying to, like, tear her down.

Lara (45:54)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (45:54)

Just say you're not into it.

Lara (45:55)

She needs to go. Like, she needs to leave.

Amber Desiree (45:57)

But all he wanted to talk about on vacation was sex, remember?

Lara (46:00)

Oh, wait. He went around to every single person.

Amber Desiree (46:02)

Y'all having sex. Y'all have sex.

Lara (46:05)

He sent his whole mixer being around. So, like, you guys had sex.

Amber Desiree (46:08)

Yes. It was like, we get it. You're not buddy.

Lara (46:10)

And everyone's like, no.

Micah (46:11)

And he's like, like, not at all. Not before the show, not during the show, not after, clearly.

Amber Desiree (46:18)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imagine maybe never again. Just kidding.

Micah (46:21)

After the performance.

Lara (46:23)

Stop that.

Micah (46:24)

Yeah, no, I do feel bad. I do feel bad because it's like, one. As a woman, you're not even allowed to, like, the world to know that anyone's touched you before a relationship.

Amber Desiree (46:34)

Yes.

Micah (46:34)

You're sitting there like, oh, no, I haven't.

Lara (46:36)

Yeah. Like, how damaging is that?

Micah (46:38)

And it's just like, right now you're tearing. She's a teacher. 1. And now you're trying to paint her as a whore because she was dating someone or seeing someone or someone before she came on the show.

Lara (46:49)

Which, mind you, I'm gonna say everyone was. Probably the majority of people were doing that.

Micah (46:53)

Because 1. You don't know that you're getting cast.

Lara (46:55)

No.

Micah (46:55)

You're in this process, and you don't know what, literally.

Amber Desiree (46:59)

Yeah.

Micah (46:59)

And so it's like, no one's like, I'm gonna apply for Love is Blind. And then. Yeah, now.

Lara (47:03)

And just wait.

Micah (47:04)

Now I'm celibate. It doesn't work like that. Like, you just kind of. It's a waiting. You're living your life, and they tell you live your life. They literally tell you live your life. And then you come on the show and you're just like. You don't have time to, like, block everybody, ghost everybody.

Lara (47:17)

You also can't tell everybody.

Amber Desiree (47:18)

You can't say it.

Micah (47:19)

You can't say anything. And so now she has to come back to the rumors already circulating. His sister in a tizzy.

Amber Desiree (47:26)

Yeah.

Lara (47:27)

What has to deal with this sister?

Micah (47:28)

What's the sister?

Lara (47:29)

Something weird's going on with the sister. That's awesome.

Amber Desiree (47:31)

I really hope there's a meeting with the sister. I hope she agrees to.

Micah (47:33)

My God, later episodes.

Lara (47:35)

Yeah, there's something weird going on.

Micah (47:36)

No, I don't like that she's too involved, too invested.

Lara (47:40)

And the way he talks about her, too.

Micah (47:41)

It's like he said, I hope that I can be with someone like her. Her.

Lara (47:45)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (47:45)

I think because his mom passed.

Micah (47:47)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (47:48)

It's like a little bit. Yeah. But yeah, the sister.

Lara (47:51)

It's a little much.

Amber Desiree (47:51)

It's a little scary.

Lara (47:52)

Constantly brought up. It's like it's her opinion or bust. He was crying and he lounge about it.

Micah (47:57)

I have a lot of thoughts about Ben and Sarah. One, I think they're an interesting couple just in general.

Amber Desiree (48:02)

Yeah.

Micah (48:03)

Like, I feel like she's like a ray of sunshine and he's just like.

Amber Desiree (48:06)

He's like tanning bed lights. AI.

Micah (48:07)

Yeah.

Lara (48:08)

Something about him gives.

Micah (48:09)

AI.

Amber Desiree (48:09)

Because I don't think he's being authentic. So what we said earlier is where it's like, no matter what, like the good, bad and the ugly, everyone is going to get hate from the show. It doesn't matter. You. You have to come in and just be who you're gonna be no matter what. And he's not. It's too poised.

Micah (48:22)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (48:23)

It's too buttoned up, too.

Micah (48:25)

I'm Christian, but I don't know Diddly squawk. But I don't know anything. I don't watch tv. I'm not up on current events. I don't.

Amber Desiree (48:33)

I can't spell Black Lives Matter. Like, I don't understand.

Micah (48:37)

My sister is gay, blah, blah, blah. And like, his response is, I know people in that community who are that.

Amber Desiree (48:44)

Yeah.

Micah (48:44)

Who are that?

Amber Desiree (48:45)

Who are that? Like, I don't.

Micah (48:47)

Wait.

Lara (48:48)

And one of us, all of a.

Amber Desiree (48:49)

Sudden, he's a lesbian. Yes.

Lara (48:51)

He hired her.

Micah (48:53)

That.

Lara (48:54)

Yeah.

Micah (48:54)

It's just like the way he says things. And then she's like, so how do you feel about George Floyd and Black Lives Matter? And he literally.

Amber Desiree (49:01)

And he's like, who?

Micah (49:02)

He goes, I just stay away from that.

Amber Desiree (49:06)

Burying your head in the sand. I mean. Yeah. Like that.

Micah (49:09)

First of all, what a privilege.

Lara (49:10)

Yeah.

Micah (49:11)

To call anything that and to be so oblivious about the world around you that you can just. I don't talk about it.

Lara (49:18)

I think all vote.

Micah (49:19)

He didn't vote.

Lara (49:20)

That's insane. I think that she just wanted. She wanted him to be like. But do you, like, understand? Do you agree? Like, do you. And he was just like, I stay out of it.

Micah (49:29)

I stay out of it.

Lara (49:30)

Like. Like, is he saying that because he truly does or because he lays on the other side or because he's so scared of, like, he lays kissing anyone.

Micah (49:36)

Off anyone that's what it is. He knows where he stands.

Amber Desiree (49:39)

Yeah.

Micah (49:40)

He knows exactly where he stands.

Amber Desiree (49:41)

Yeah.

Micah (49:42)

And you don't.

Amber Desiree (49:42)

And I think he did vote. He just. It was embarrassing.

Micah (49:44)

He realized what his audience side of the history. You are on.

Amber Desiree (49:48)

Yeah. Yeah.

Micah (49:48)

Which is fine. Vote for whoever you want to vote for. But then stand strong in it. Yeah. And then don't sit there and take the back seat and be like, I don't know what's going on. You know what the is going on.

Amber Desiree (49:57)

Yeah.

Lara (49:58)

I'm sorry. You have to be like so far under a rock.

Micah (50:01)

You don't know what's happening with George Floyd in your.

Lara (50:03)

That's such a point. It was in the world.

Micah (50:05)

World stopped. We were in the pandemic.

Amber Desiree (50:07)

And it's like, what do you care about? Like, what are your passions? Like, what do you care about? Like, humanity in the world. Yeah. But it's like he didn't even seem to know much about that. He was like, I call it faith, not religion, which, like, that's fine. But it's like, what are you doing every Sunday in church? It's like it seemed very like mechanical. Like, oh, I just go just to go just to check a box to say. I go. Like there's no deeper meaning.

Micah (50:25)

It's like, if those are your core.

Amber Desiree (50:27)

Values, then what are you doing?

Micah (50:29)

What are you doing? If you know. If you know that you're in a situation where you're about to marry a man that might not. That will call your sister that. And yes. And hide from social issues. You're at a dinner table. And he's just like.

Lara (50:42)

I was a little disappointed about how like she came on really like, came out really strong about how like she was in her beliefs. And then also the next time they were in the pod, she was like, hey, I know.

Amber Desiree (50:52)

And when she pressed him, he was like, basically like, oh, well, you can teach me. Or like all. But I'm just like, this is a grown ass man. And it's like, like I really like Sarah and I feel like she's very like strong and like her volition and like what she stands for. And I'm just like this.

Lara (51:05)

But he almost made her like soft. I feel like it's like.

Amber Desiree (51:07)

Yeah.

Lara (51:08)

Like crumbled like into like. I like her too. And I think she's really sweet. They seem really sweet together. But it's like, I don't something.

Amber Desiree (51:14)

It's not gonna last.

Micah (51:15)

That's not sustainable.

Amber Desiree (51:16)

He's giving plastic.

Micah (51:18)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (51:19)

AI robotic. Yeah. Yeah.

Micah (51:21)

It's freaky.

Amber Desiree (51:22)

And then there's all the. There's so much on TikTok that's come out about him. Or I guess I didn't directly say it to him, but, like, a bunch of girls that are throughout Minneapolis have.

Micah (51:30)

Dated crying, crying, making Tiktoks corn stories.

Amber Desiree (51:33)

Saying they have ptsd.

Micah (51:34)

Like, she's like, well, do you know these girls? He's like, well, no.

Amber Desiree (51:37)

Yeah.

Micah (51:37)

Well, did you hook up with these girls?

Amber Desiree (51:38)

Well, I don't remember.

Lara (51:39)

It was four years ago.

Micah (51:41)

Yeah, she literally. And he's like, oh, no, I saw it. And she's like, you saw it? And he's like, yeah, I saw it earlier, but I blocked her.

Amber Desiree (51:47)

But. Yeah, but I blocked her.

Micah (51:48)

She's like, well, why?

Amber Desiree (51:49)

Yeah.

Micah (51:49)

He's like, wait, what are they saying that he did?

Lara (51:52)

He's just like.

Micah (51:52)

That he dated them and ghosted.

Amber Desiree (51:55)

He was shitty.

Micah (51:56)

Yeah. Just not a good person.

Amber Desiree (51:57)

Yeah. Manipulation, I think, was, like, the big thing. Yeah. He was just like, oh, I may or may not have ghosted her. And I may, like, no.

Micah (52:04)

Basically, Sarah's just trying to get to the bottom of it. Like, why did you ghost her? Why are these girls online crying? And he's like, don't remember.

Amber Desiree (52:09)

Don't remember.

Lara (52:10)

I don't know.

Micah (52:10)

Don't know.

Amber Desiree (52:11)

He's like, I didn't have sex with her, but I went to her house.

Micah (52:13)

And she's like, and you didn't hook up? He's like, no.

Amber Desiree (52:15)

He's like, but. But you don't remember.

Micah (52:16)

Don't remember.

Amber Desiree (52:18)

The inconsistency. That's what drives.

Micah (52:19)

All right, y'all, so let's play a quick little game. So on our season, it was a hot topic that Chelsea said that she looked like. Or people think she looks like Megan.

Lara (52:29)

Fox, but she does.

Micah (52:32)

We see it.

Lara (52:33)

It's there.

Amber Desiree (52:33)

I ride for Chelsea all day, every day. Like, we all do. So, yeah, as far as I'm concerned, she is Megan Fox.

Lara (52:38)

Okay.

Micah (52:39)

She's my Megan Fox.

Lara (52:41)

She's my Megan Fox.

Micah (52:42)

I'm gonna tell my kids that this is right. No. So let's play a game, and let's go through season eight cast and see what celebrities they look like. Okay.

Amber Desiree (52:53)

Done.

Lara (52:54)

Ooh, I just feel like I should know.

Amber Desiree (52:56)

It's giving Jim Carrey.

Micah (52:58)

Joey is giving Jim Carrey.

Amber Desiree (52:59)

I don't know why. Like, respectfully, maybe his vibe is giving Jim Carrey. No, it might be his part.

Micah (53:04)

Hercules does it. Is that Monica said that he looks like Tarzan.

Lara (53:09)

Oh, Tarzan. I can see that.

Micah (53:11)

Okay, Molly, she looks like that comedian, the one comedian I know with the Red hair.

Amber Desiree (53:18)

She kind of looks like that chick from Wedding Crashers who's like, I will find you.

Lara (53:22)

Wait, what?

Amber Desiree (53:25)

I don't know her name.

Micah (53:26)

Who is that comedian with the red hair? She's, like, older.

Amber Desiree (53:30)

Reba. Reba.

Micah (53:36)

Next. Ben is giving. I don't know. He just gives AI bot to me, so I got nothing.

Lara (53:42)

Yeah, like, Wii character.

Micah (53:43)

We charact sims.

Lara (53:45)

Like, you pick it up.

Amber Desiree (53:45)

Ben's getting sim. Yeah, Ben's giving. Yeah.

Micah (53:49)

Somebody's controlling him.

Lara (53:50)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (53:51)

Robotic Sarah's so cute. She's giving.

Lara (53:55)

She reminds me of, like, some, like, cute little coastal, like, Cali surfer girl. I don't know.

Micah (53:59)

That's not a celebrity.

Amber Desiree (54:00)

Honestly, the cast photos are trash because they look so much better while they're filming.

Micah (54:03)

Blake Lively is insane.

Lara (54:05)

Top of mind.

Amber Desiree (54:07)

She kind of looks like you.

Lara (54:09)

Okay, thanks, Alex.

Amber Desiree (54:12)

Alex gives, like, a young. Not Ben Affleck, but one of the Afflecks. Like, the younger.

Lara (54:18)

You know what? Wait. He looks like Zac Efron's brother.

Micah (54:21)

Yes.

Amber Desiree (54:22)

Oh, my God.

Micah (54:23)

Oh, yeah. Now let's get into something a little more awkward. Let's talk cringiest dating stories.

Amber Desiree (54:32)

Ours.

Micah (54:33)

Yeah. Oh, girl, I know you got a.

Amber Desiree (54:35)

Show ain't long enough.

Micah (54:36)

You're blocked on Raya.

Amber Desiree (54:40)

If anyone who Raya's.

Lara (54:41)

They know your history.

Amber Desiree (54:42)

Unblock Maya.

Micah (54:43)

I'm crying.

Amber Desiree (54:44)

No more dates for her cringiest dating story. I mean, there's so many.

Lara (54:51)

One thing about me, I'm not gonna let myself suffer. So if I have to talk the whole time, I'm gonna talk the whole time.

Micah (54:55)

I'm crying.

Lara (54:56)

I'm like, if I have to make it fun, I'm talking to myself, like, going back and forth.

Micah (55:00)

I will.

Lara (55:02)

I don't have, like, a ton of, like, really terrible dating stories. I mean, I've dated some terrible people, but not that terrible stories.

Amber Desiree (55:09)

One thing about me, I always show up with cash. So. And I only sit at the bar, okay? So, you know your girl's gonna be ready.

Lara (55:16)

What are these rules?

Amber Desiree (55:17)

There's so many rules for me. So I literally. I don't do dinner.

Micah (55:20)

What?

Lara (55:20)

Cash.

Amber Desiree (55:20)

I don't do dinner for a hot minute. We sit at the bar, and I bring cash. Because if, like, 30 minutes in, I'm not vibing. I'm, like, slipping you a 20 for my martini, and I'm gonna go this way.

Micah (55:30)

Yeah. So we don't do cringe.

Amber Desiree (55:31)

That's happened several times. But they're, I guess, like, terrible dating story. But I remember, like, I went on a date a couple years ago with this Guy. And I was like, one date. And I was like, oh, my God, he's the love of my life. This is the best date ever. I'm so obsessed. Gonna be so sexy. And then we went on another date. Or it was more like we just all happened to be out and we, my friends met his friends, and this motherfucker was in a shrunken T shirt, like his belly button was out. And my friend straight. I mean, literally, it was like his little brother's T shirt.

Lara (55:57)

He was like a baby tee.

Amber Desiree (55:58)

Like a 37 year old man with like a belly button out. I was like, did you lose your fantasy football league? I was like, what the hell is going on?

Micah (56:05)

Lara hates poorly dressed man. Yes, there is belly button.

Amber Desiree (56:10)

There's room for error.

Micah (56:10)

There's no room for error.

Amber Desiree (56:12)

Do not show me your belly button, Taylor.

Micah (56:14)

I don't want to see your belly button.

Lara (56:15)

Literally no pattern.

Micah (56:18)

No, that's cringe.

Amber Desiree (56:19)

Get some clothes that fit.

Micah (56:20)

So long story short, you never saw him again?

Amber Desiree (56:21)

No, we never saw him again. Yeah.

Micah (56:22)

And no explanation.

Amber Desiree (56:24)

No explanation for the baby tea?

Lara (56:26)

No.

Amber Desiree (56:27)

His friend got weird. We talked about our favorite celebrities, and his friend said his favorite celebrity was Mr. Bean. My friend said they went to the bathroom, they said, we're not coming back, baby girl.

Lara (56:36)

My favorite celebrity is Mr. Bean.

Amber Desiree (56:38)

Right? I mean, shout out to Mr. Bean. But I was like, my friends are like, who is that? I was like, this is not our vibe.

Micah (56:43)

We have to go. Crop tops and Mr. Bean.

Amber Desiree (56:46)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lara (56:47)

Here's a 20.

Micah (56:49)

Here's the 20.

Lara (56:50)

See, I didn't even buy you a drink tonight. You're like, keep it big.

Amber Desiree (56:52)

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, buy another shirt hurt.

Micah (56:54)

Oh, no.

Lara (56:56)

That's so funny.

Micah (56:57)

All right, y'all. So reality TV definitely changes us in the best ways and some of the worst ways. Like, what do you know now that maybe you wish you knew then or that you didn't know then?

Lara (57:10)

I think for me it's like just have faith in the process and realize that like, everything happens for a reason. Like, I don't know how I've gotten this far, like flying by the seat of my pants. But it's like everything does just work out if you let it. And like, let let you know the universe take over and like, trust in yourself to like, pull through and like, be successful and be happy. I feel like it really just comes.

Micah (57:30)

Because when you're in it, it's hard to see.

Lara (57:32)

Yeah. And when you're in it, it's hard to see progress and stuff. It's like, I look back and I'm like, my life was so different a few years ago, but, like, yesterday, my life, I was like, still chilling on the couch, like, you know what I mean? Like, it's like sometimes you just had to realize, like, it really does just work out. Yeah. You have to have faith in that.

Micah (57:46)

Yeah.

Amber Desiree (57:46)

Yeah. I think to piggyback on that kind of a two parter. It's like before reality tv, you know, things happen in your life. Like, there's obviously like peaks and valleys, but you don't think about. You don't like, train your brain to think about it. Like, this is going to pass. Like, this is going to be a blip in the radar. And I think, like, reality TV and like, everything that comes with, you know, being on a show and afterwards, it's like, you have to. I've just realized that, like, even if I'm having a bad day now, it's like, it's not.

Micah (58:14)

I've been through worse.

Amber Desiree (58:15)

Yeah, exactly. I've been through way worse. And I'm like, I've been through worse and I'm like, it'll change. Change tomorrow. Yeah, like, it'll be something totally different tomorrow. As to where, I feel like before the show used to, like, dwell in things.

Lara (58:24)

Yeah, A lot more.

Micah (58:25)

Yeah. I kind of. I think we can all have that, like, sentiment because life in the trenches.

Lara (58:31)

After reality in the trenches. Dude, I was below ground. I was six feet under.

Amber Desiree (58:36)

You were underground.

Lara (58:37)

Baby, if I crawled out. We all can't.

Amber Desiree (58:41)

Didn't you hide for a little while?

Lara (58:43)

I was like, yeah, I was in, like, the crack of Washington.

Micah (58:46)

Like, I'm crying now. You're. It's like, where in the world is Carmen Sandiego? This has been amazing. So fun. I love the fact that you guys made time to come join me on what's the Reality. You guys are so awesome and I love that we're thriving and no one can stop us. World travelers, hard workers. So thank y'all for showing up and.

Lara (59:07)

Of course, so awesome.

Micah (59:09)

Thank you. Thank you. You guys, I want to thank you. Thank you. Thank you so very much for joining me on my very first episode of what's the Real Y'all? We are in for a ride. This is just the beginning. So I want to invite you to join me every single Wednesday where we can chat, laugh, kiki with some of your favorite favorite reality stars. Make sure you guys follow us on all platforms at WhatstherealityPod. Subscribe on YouTube and I'll see y'all there. What's the reality? What's the reality? Optimize your nutrition with Factor America's Number one Ready to Eat Meal Service. Factor's Fresh, Never Frozen meals are dietitian.

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