Red light therapy is everywhere right now, but most people do not really understand how it works or how to use it correctly. In this episode, Natasha sits down with Vivian Chen, founder of Lumebox, to break down the science of red and near infrared light in a practical and approachable way.

They discuss why Natasha was initially skeptical, how artificial light disrupts circadian rhythms, and why timing, placement, and wavelength matter more than most people realize. Vivian explains how red light supports energy, sleep, hormone balance, and even thyroid health, while also addressing common questions about EMFs, face masks, and how Lumebox differs from other devices on the market.

If you have ever wondered whether red light therapy is worth it or how to actually use it safely and effectively, this episode is a must listen.

Notes:

1:01 – Why Natasha was skeptical about red light therapy at first

2:20 – Vivian’s personal journey into red light therapy and founding Lumebox

4:25 – The big-picture benefits of red and near-infrared light

6:30 – Why so many people are using the wrong type of light—and what kind you actually need

9:00 – The best way to start your day using light for circadian health

12:00 – How modern indoor lighting disrupts our biology

14:10 – The impact of time changes on sleep, mood, and energy

17:00 – Phone use at night and how artificial light affects melatonin

19:00 – Key differences between red light devices on the market

22:00 – How often to use the Lumebox, where to use it, and best timing

24:00 – Do red light face masks actually work?

25:00 – When to use red light vs. near-infrared light

28:00 – Using red light therapy for thyroid support

32:00 – Lumebox and EMFs: what you need to know

35:00 – Why light exposure—especially morning light—is foundational to health

38:00 – Why Natasha continues to use and trust the Lumebox

Links:

Red Light Bulbs -https://healthlighting.com/pages/chromalux-the-original-light-for-health-and-wellness

Clip on Nightlight - https://amzn.to/3MJHzRj

Red Light Therapy: What Actually Works (and What Doesn’t) with Dr Vivian Chen