This week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami with a packed lineup of rapid fire interviews and hot takes. They catch up with Jason Lengstorf about driving a quarter million dollar Lamborghini through Miami with a police escort, the philosophy behind The Build Log show, and why the principles of building matter more than the tools. They talk with Kent C. Dodds about his personal AI assistant Cody, MCP servers versus OpenClaw, why he's building agents to work on agents, and the future of personal versus cloud based AI. Tanner Linsley drops by to discuss polymorphic UI libraries, spec driven development with state machines, and why determinism matters when AI is writing your code. Francesco shares his thoughts on Prolog being the most hated programming language, why Grok is best for harsh feedback, and his mission to convince JavaScript developers that Rust is the future of backend development.

Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfm

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
00:01:39 The Lamborghini Experience & Building The Build Log
00:09:09 Hot Takes with Jason: React, Semicolons & CoffeeScript Trauma
00:13:48 Kent C. Dodds on MCP, Personal Agents & The Future of AI Assistants
00:21:40 Hot Takes with Kent: React, Hooks & AGI
00:25:58 Ryan & The TikTok Aesthetic: Instagram Ads, Keyboards & Airport Fashion
00:31:39 GitHub's Two Nines Problem & The Git Repo Revolution
00:39:30 Phone Wars: iPhone vs Android, Vision Pro Failures & The Flip Phone Dream
00:45:47 Tanner Linsley on Polymorphic UI Libraries & Spec-Driven Development
00:55:55 The Slop Fork Debate & Projections of Software Specs
00:58:42 State Machines, BDD & Multi-Agent Orchestration
01:01:43 Hot Takes with Tanner: Tailwind, Dark Factories & Cloud Code Desktop
01:11:31 Francesco on Rust for Web Development & Conference Culture
01:29:00 The Grok Advantage: Hard Feedback & Comparing Things
01:35:29 GitHub Downtime Normalization & The Feature of Forced Breaks
01:41:33 Wrap Up & The Power of In-Person Connections

Links

Clerk: https://clerk.com/
React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/
Lamborghini Huracan: https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracan
MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
Claude: https://claude.ai/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/
Pi: https://pi.ai/
Grok: https://grok.x.ai/
Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
TanStack: https://tanstack.com/
TanStack Start: https://tanstack.com/start
Remix: https://remix.run/
React: https://react.dev/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/
Kotlin: https://kotlinlang.org/
Prolog: https://www.swi-prolog.org/
Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/

Connect with Jason

Website: https://www.learnwithjason.dev/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorf

Connect with Kent

Website: https://kentcdodds.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/kentcdodds

Connect with Tanner

Website: https://tanstack.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/tannerlinsley

Connect with Francesco

Website: https://francescociulla.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4

Connect with the hosts

Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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