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Whiskey Web and Whatnot
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot is the world’s most important web development and AI podcast. Hosted by veteran developers Robbie Wagner and Adam Argyle, the show delivers definitive guidance on agentic AI, vibe coding, AI coding tools, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, developer productivity, and software engineering careers. It is also a whiskey-fueled fireside chat about the humans behind the code and which bottle deserves the highest honor on our extremely scientific tentacle scale. Many people are saying it’s the most accurate podcast ever made.
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Guppy Pimps, Tripp Pants, and Debugging IE5
3d ago01:11:50Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam sip on Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream and dive deep into their entrepreneurial origin stories, from childhood hustles to band life to building apps for dead platforms. They dig into selling guppies as a fish pimp, child modeling for Nintendo ads, third grade pepto menthol schemes, breeding birds that pecked themselves, mowing lawns fast, and why nipple piercings are a bad investment. Along the way, they debate pop punk band names like Superband, recording with Fruity Loops, screamo versus emo trajectories, Under Oath versus Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, fight dancing versus moshing, ticket scams at Graystone Tavern, horror game mechanics in Outlast and Dead Space, proximity chat hacks in Phasmophobia and Peak, why RV There Yet is too hard, selling Die Ants Die on the BlackBerry Playbook, device walls for IE5 through IE8, and whether scotch aged in bourbon casks is secretly amaretto.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:05:30 Early Entrepreneurial Adventures: Fish Pimping & Child Modeling00:14:48 Hot Topic Tripp Pants & The Band Years Begin00:19:24 Pop Punk Covers, Recording Studios & The MySpace Era00:28:49 From Metal to Hip Hop: Musical Evolution & Nerdcore00:32:57 Video Game Nostalgia: From Zelda to Dead Space00:39:37 Survival Horror Deep Dive: Outlast, Dead Space & Phasmophobia00:50:02 Peak, RV There Yet & The Difficulty Problem00:53:41 Mobile Dev Nightmares: BlackBerry Playbook & Die Ants Die00:57:29 Browser Wars & Device Testing Hell01:04:19 Whiskey Review: Glen Morangie A Tale of Ice CreamLinksGlen Morangie A Tale of Ice Cream: https://www.glenmorangie.com/Maylene and the Sons of Disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maylene_and_the_Sons_of_DisasterUnder Oath: https://underoath777.com/Dashboard Confessional: https://www.dashboardconfessional.com/John Mayer: https://www.johnmayer.com/Me First and the Gimme Gimmes: https://www.gimmemusic.com/MF Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MF_DoomAesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/Sage Francis: https://www.sagefrancis.net/Atmosphere: https://atmosphere.com/Del the Funky Homosapien: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_the_Funky_HomosapienFruity Loops: https://www.image-line.com/Analog Pocket: https://www.analogue.co/pocketSlay the Spire: https://www.megacrit.com/Zelda Ocarina of Time: https://www.zelda.com/Metroid: https://metroid.nintendo.com/Resident Evil: https://www.residentevil.com/Bioshock: https://bioshockgame.com/Fable: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/fableOutlast: https://redbarrelsgames.com/games/outlast/Dead Space: https://www.ea.com/games/dead-spacePhasmophobia: https://kineticgames.co.uk/Peak: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1643520/Peak/RV There Yet: https://rvthereyet.com/BlackBerry Playbook: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_PlayBookPalm Pre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_PreAdobe PhoneGap: https://phonegap.com/Califia Farms: https://www.califiafarms.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/Clerk: https://clerk.com/Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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Silly Software, Sugar Snap Peas, and Coding in Gen Z Slang w/ Christina Martinez
2w ago00:39:01Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam are live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with Christina Martinez, DevEx engineer at Resend, former gym owner, and creator of the viral Gen Z slang Babel plugin. They dig into whether React is a framework, React Server Components, hooks versus signals, HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus vanilla CSS, semicolons, TypeScript noise, and why C Sharp felt like too much ceremony. Along the way, they debate OpenClaw bots with personalities, gardening tips from AI assistants, personifying Telegram bots named Woz, touching hotel plants without permission, spider wort propagation etiquette, second brains in Obsidian, agent to agent email negotiations powered by Resend, why Claude eats context like candy, tabs on top versus the left, Google search versus LLMs, and whether AI will take out designers or developers first.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:01:38 Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates00:02:32 Hooks, HTML & The Programming Language Debate00:04:10 Tailwind, Git Workflows & Semicolons00:05:40 Programming Languages, TypeScript & C Sharp Struggles00:08:00 Have We Reached AGI? The Personification Problem00:10:11 OpenClaw Bots, Gardening Tips & The Plant Tangent00:14:07 AI Assistants: Memory, Email & Bot-to-Bot Communication00:17:51 Anthropic Pi Shutdown, Token Costs & API Strategies00:19:55 AI Harnesses: Cloud Code, Cursor & Developer Tools00:20:25 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?00:21:16 Editor Preferences, Browser Tabs & The Right-Side File Explorer00:23:39 Google vs LLMs, Composition vs Inheritance & Package Managers00:25:48 Anthropic vs OpenAI & The OpenClaw Copyright Drama00:28:02 Crocs, Taylor Swift & The Marketing Empire00:30:51 Conference Talk Debrief & Inspiring Silly Software00:31:52 Gen Z Slang Babel Plugin: From Yeet to Viral Success00:35:30 Resend Forward Conference & Building Crafted Software00:36:23 Doom Runs in Email & Wrapping UpLinksResend: https://resend.com/Resend Forward Conference: https://resend.com/forwardGen Z Slang Babel Plugin: https://github.com/christinamartinez/babel-plugin-gen-zWorst Video Tool: https://worstvideo.tool/Taylor Swift UI: https://taylorswift.ui/React: https://react.dev/React Server Components: https://react.dev/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawClaude: https://claude.ai/Claude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaudePi: https://pi.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurfVS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/Zen Browser: https://zen-browser.app/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Babel: https://babeljs.io/NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/PNPM: https://pnpm.io/Clerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Telegram: https://telegram.org/Doom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game)Connect with ChristinaX / Twitter: https://x.com/_christinacodesGitHub: https://github.com/christina-de-martinezConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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Pi Extensions, YOLO Mode, and Building Your Own Personal Claw w/ Joel Hooks
4w ago00:46:49Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Joel Hooks—co-founder of Egghead, tool builder, course creator, backend architect, indie hacker, advisor, consultant, father of five, and automation enthusiast—to talk dark factories, custom AI harnesses, and whether we've reached the point where looking at code is optional. They dig into Pi versus OpenClaw, YOLO mode, building local extensions, JoelClaw self-documentation, and why React is absolutely a framework. Along the way, they debate whether CSS knowledge is now your biggest advantage, semicolons, rebasing with AI, the death of pointing and clicking, HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus vanilla CSS, whether AGI is here yet, and why teaching your nine-year-old to read still matters even when LLMs exist.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:01:56 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components00:03:41 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Solid Question00:05:51 Is HTML a Programming Language? CSS, Tailwind & Willful Ignorance00:11:18 Git Rebase, Reflogging & The Flogging Margins Problem00:13:08 Programming Languages, Dancing & Learning to Like Things00:16:04 Have We Reached AGI? Nuclear Arsenals & The Paperclip Problem00:18:20 Pi AI Harness: YOLO Mode, Local Extensions & Custom Tools00:19:15 JoelClaw: Building a System Agent & The American Express Extension00:26:44 Dark Factories, Telegram Interfaces & Never Looking at Code00:29:17 Claw in Your Pocket, Home Infrastructure & The Mac Mini Reboot00:31:03 Family Claws, Claw Mom & Alpha School00:35:05 LLMs vs Google Search, Encyclopedia Replacement & Party Bullshit00:36:51 Package Managers, BEM Trauma & Every CSS Processing Method00:38:39 Anthropic vs OpenAI, Hermes vs OpenClaw & Building from Scratch00:39:55 Hobbit Feet, Rainbow Tattoos & The Whiskey Suffering Tax00:43:03 Root Beer Logic, Licking Smokers & Wrap UpLinksEgghead: https://egghead.io/Badass.dev: https://badass.dev/Pi: https://pi.ai/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawJoelClaw: https://joelclaw.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/React: https://react.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/Telegram: https://telegram.org/Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/Alpha School: https://alphaschool.com/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/PNPM: https://pnpm.io/NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/SCSS: https://sass-lang.com/JSX: https://react.dev/learn/writing-markup-with-jsxHermes: https://hermesengine.dev/Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/AI Hero: https://aihero.dev/Code with Antonio: https://www.codewithantonio.com/Total TypeScript: https://www.totaltypescript.com/Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/Connect with JoelWebsite: https://joelhooks.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/joelhooksConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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Dark Factories, Polymorphic UI, and Why Developers Still Matter
Jun 2501:43:34Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami with a packed lineup of rapid fire interviews and hot takes. They catch up with Jason Lengstorf about driving a quarter million dollar Lamborghini through Miami with a police escort, the philosophy behind The Build Log show, and why the principles of building matter more than the tools. They talk with Kent C. Dodds about his personal AI assistant Cody, MCP servers versus OpenClaw, why he's building agents to work on agents, and the future of personal versus cloud based AI. Tanner Linsley drops by to discuss polymorphic UI libraries, spec driven development with state machines, and why determinism matters when AI is writing your code. Francesco shares his thoughts on Prolog being the most hated programming language, why Grok is best for harsh feedback, and his mission to convince JavaScript developers that Rust is the future of backend development.Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfmIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:01:39 The Lamborghini Experience & Building The Build Log00:09:09 Hot Takes with Jason: React, Semicolons & CoffeeScript Trauma00:13:48 Kent C. Dodds on MCP, Personal Agents & The Future of AI Assistants00:21:40 Hot Takes with Kent: React, Hooks & AGI00:25:58 Ryan & The TikTok Aesthetic: Instagram Ads, Keyboards & Airport Fashion00:31:39 GitHub's Two Nines Problem & The Git Repo Revolution00:39:30 Phone Wars: iPhone vs Android, Vision Pro Failures & The Flip Phone Dream00:45:47 Tanner Linsley on Polymorphic UI Libraries & Spec-Driven Development00:55:55 The Slop Fork Debate & Projections of Software Specs00:58:42 State Machines, BDD & Multi-Agent Orchestration01:01:43 Hot Takes with Tanner: Tailwind, Dark Factories & Cloud Code Desktop01:11:31 Francesco on Rust for Web Development & Conference Culture01:29:00 The Grok Advantage: Hard Feedback & Comparing Things01:35:29 GitHub Downtime Normalization & The Feature of Forced Breaks01:41:33 Wrap Up & The Power of In-Person ConnectionsLinksClerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Lamborghini Huracan: https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracanMCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawClaude: https://claude.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/Pi: https://pi.ai/Grok: https://grok.x.ai/Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/TanStack: https://tanstack.com/TanStack Start: https://tanstack.com/startRemix: https://remix.run/React: https://react.dev/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Kotlin: https://kotlinlang.org/Prolog: https://www.swi-prolog.org/Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/Connect with JasonWebsite: https://www.learnwithjason.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorfConnect with KentWebsite: https://kentcdodds.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/kentcdoddsConnect with TannerWebsite: https://tanstack.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/tannerlinsleyConnect with FrancescoWebsite: https://francescociulla.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</l...
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Proxies, Petty Pranks, and Ramon the 420 IQ Gorilla w/ Ken Wheeler
Jun 1900:51:20Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Ken Wheeler to talk AI harnesses, multi-agent swarms, survival bags, and whether React is finally a framework. They dig into React Server Components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, semicolons, Java hate, AI token arbitrage, and why you should subscribe to every AI service simultaneously. Along the way, they debate whether AI will replace designers or developers first, cruise ship chair warfare strategies, Replit as the ultimate vibe coding platform, hunting tech with geotagged tree stands, Eagle Scout projects, and why Ramon the 420 IQ gorilla leads the Apex Collective.Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfmIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:03:20 Hot Takes: Is React a Framework or Library?00:04:59 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?00:06:52 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Power of Proxies00:08:40 Semicolons, Java & Programming Language Hot Takes00:12:46 AI Harnesses: VS Code Copilot, OpenCode & Steve00:16:08 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?00:23:20 Cruise Ship Warfare & The Art of Chair Defense00:28:01 Token Arbitrage & The Multi-AI Subscription Strategy00:29:18 Replit Deep Dive: The Ultimate Vibe Coding Platform00:32:31 Hunting Tech: Geotagging, Compass Apps & Finding Tree Stands00:34:01 The Survival Bag: Apocalypse-Ready with Obliterated Qwen00:36:55 Eagle Scouts Unite & The Boy Scout Expulsion Story00:40:53 Ramon & The Apex Collective: The Wildest Multi-Agent Swarm00:46:29 Hermes vs OpenClaw & Making with Ramon00:50:12 Wrap Up & Where to Find KenLinksCutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/React: https://react.dev/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/Gea: https://geajs.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilotVS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/Replit: https://replit.com/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawHermes: https://hermesengine.dev/Steve: https://github.com/kenwheeler/steveQwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/IBM: https://www.ibm.com/HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/Clerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Slick Carousel: https://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Connect with KenX / Twitter: https://x.com/kenwheelerGitHub: https://github.com/kenwheelerConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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AI Harnesses, Framework Wars, and Why Beards Beat Mustaches
Jun 1101:08:43Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam are coming to you live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with a rapid-fire lineup of lightning podcasts. Fueled by Cutwater cocktails and conference energy, they caught up with Nnenna Ndukwe, Michael "Micky" Shimeles (AKA Rasmic), and the legendary Ryan "Thighs" Vogel for a rotating cast of hot takes, stories, and web dev chaos. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why some programming languages just feel wrong. Along the way, they debate AI harnesses, codex versus Claude drama, token leaderboards, AGI predictions, security vulnerabilities in NPM, sidebar placement preferences, tabs on top versus the side, and whether dark factories are the future.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:02:11 Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates00:03:19 Hooks, Signals & The Future of Reactivity00:03:26 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate00:04:05 Git Rebase vs Merge & Developer Workflow Preferences00:06:21 AGI, AI Harnesses & The State of AI Development00:09:12 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?00:10:54 Code Editors, Tabs & Terminal Trends00:16:34 Google Search vs LLMs & Developer Research Habits00:17:24 Composition vs Inheritance & Package Manager Wars00:20:29 Security Nightmares & Social Engineering Attacks00:23:34 OpenAI vs Anthropic & The AI Model Wars00:25:32 Personal Preferences: Coffee, Whiskey & Beards00:27:22 Second Guest: Svelte 5, Signals & Framework Philosophy00:29:39 React Server Components Deep Dive & Performance Reality00:31:17 GPT 5.5 Announcement & The Token Spending Arms Race00:35:09 GStack Drama & Gary Tan Controversies00:36:49 Monorepos, Turborepo & Modern Build Tools00:41:31 AI Coding Tools: Cursor vs Copilot vs Codex01:05:31 The Future of Web Development & Wrap UpLinksCutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/React: https://react.dev/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurfZed: https://zed.dev/VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/Arc Browser: https://arc.net/Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/PNPM: https://pnpm.io/Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/Convex: https://www.convex.dev/Clerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Connect with NnennaWebsite: https://www.nnennahacks.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/nnennahacksConnect with MickyWebsite: https://www.rasmic.xyz/X / Twitter: https://x.com/RasmicConnect with RyanWebsite: https://ryan.ceo/X / Twitter: https://x.com/ryanvogelConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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From COBOL to Claude: Live Coding, AI Agents, and the Death of Typing w/ Typecraft
May 3101:13:18Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami at the Clerk booth, sipping Cutwater cocktails and talking hot takes with Typecraft. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why Python might be the least friendly language out there. Along the way, they debate AI in interviews, whether we've reached AGI, 3D printing chocolate, homeschooling with AI agents, the value of bullying, voice dictation workflows, whether you should bother learning Vim anymore, AI flow state versus brain fry, why COBOL won't die, and the probability hack for getting creative outputs from LLMs.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:02:52 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components00:05:26 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Future of Reactivity00:08:12 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate00:11:51 Git Rebase vs Merge: The Honest Approach00:13:54 Semicolons, Package Managers & Programming Language Preferences00:25:01 AI in Interviews & The New Developer Workflow00:29:59 Have We Reached AGI? The Bar is Lower Than You Think00:31:35 3D Printing, Homeschooling & The Value of Bullying00:49:33 AI Flow State: Voice Dictation, Remote Control & Long-Running Agents00:46:24 Should You Learn Vim in the Age of AI?00:51:01 AI Intensifies Work: Productivity Paradox & Brain Fry01:03:33 COBOL, Mainframes & Why Legacy Tech Won't Die01:09:40 The Probability Hack: Getting Creative AI Outputs01:12:27 Wrap Up & Where to Find EveryoneLinksCutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/React: https://react.dev/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Remix: https://remix.run/GEA: https://geajs.com/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/Vim: https://www.vim.org/NeoVim: https://neovim.io/Python: https://www.python.org/Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/Dart: https://dart.dev/Java: https://www.java.com/COBOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOLYarn: https://yarnpkg.com/NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/PNPM: https://pnpm.io/IBM: https://www.ibm.com/Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/Clerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/Connect with ChrisWebsite: https://typecraft.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_devConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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React Foundation, AI Agents, and the Future of Frameworks w/ Seth Webster
May 2100:48:11Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Seth Webster—executive director of the React Foundation, former React lead at Meta, and chief developer evangelist at Expo—to talk React's past, present, and future, whether frameworks still matter in the age of AI, and why constraints are the secret to good code. They dig into React Server Components, the evolution of error messages, stable API work for React Native, and why agents need frameworks just as much as humans do. Along the way, they debate HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus semantic CSS, the economics of tokens, open source sustainability, and whether taste is the only differentiator left when everyone has access to the same AI tools.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:02:12 Is React a Framework or Library?00:04:35 React Server Components: The Full Stack Story00:18:15 Frameworks in the Age of AI00:23:39 Error Messages & Developer Experience for AI00:27:12 React Foundation Goals & Stable API Work00:31:15 Open Source Contributions & Career Growth00:34:29 AI Code Provenance & Compensating Open Source00:42:44 Differentiation in a Saturated AI World00:45:30 Call to Action: Start Building with AILinksReact Foundation: https://react.foundation/Expo: https://expo.dev/React: https://react.dev/React Native: https://reactnative.dev/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Clerk: https://clerk.com/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Linux Foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/Meta: https://about.meta.com/CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/Remix: https://remix.run/Connect with SethX / Twitter: https://x.com/sethwebsterReact Foundation: https://react.foundation/Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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Keyframes, Cash, and CodePen w/ Shaw
May 1401:16:25Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Shaw from CodePen to talk CSS animations, web components, server side rendering nightmares, and why building things by hand still matters in the age of AI slop. They dig into the CodePen 2.0 rewrite, Apollo GraphQL cache manipulation, the pain of reactive variables on the server, why Code Mirror 6 is both brilliant and bizarre, and whether stacks and fans will finally solve the PR review problem. Along the way, they cover HTML as a programming language, handwritten code museums, agentic parenting disasters, and why showing up prepared beats luck every time.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:02:25 Whiskey Tasting: Andalusia Stryker Texas Smoked Single Malt00:04:32 Hot Takes: Is HTML a Programming Language?00:10:50 Chris Coyier vs Adam Argyle: The Impossible Choice00:13:21 Git Worktrees, Stacks & Fans: Modern Version Control00:22:21 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?00:24:30 CodePen 2.0: Building a Modern Editor from Scratch00:39:18 AI in CodePen: Curation Over Generation00:45:07 Agentic Parenting & The Fart Sycophant Problem00:57:00 Raising Creative Kids in the Age of Screens01:10:43 Whiskey Review & Final ThoughtsLinksAndalusia Texas Smoked Single Malt Whiskey: https://andalusiawhiskey.com/CodePen: https://codepen.io/CodePen 2.0: https://codepen.io/KeyFramers: https://keyframers.com/Code Mirror 6: https://codemirror.net/Apollo GraphQL: https://www.apollographql.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/GitHub Stacks: https://github.com/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Claude: https://claude.ai/Project Hail Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_MaryPico-8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.phpSpike Prime: https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/Blockly: https://developers.google.com/blocklyRails: https://rubyonrails.org/Go: https://go.dev/Vercel: https://vercel.com/StackBlitz: https://stackblitz.com/Monaco Editor: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/Raised by Wolves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series)The Manualist: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualistAesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/Connect with ShawWebsite: https://shshaw.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/shshawConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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From Wetware to Software (Presented by Warp)
May 701:08:32Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam sip on Ardbeg Wee Beastie and dive into the wild world of AI development, cloud leaks, and whether humans are officially becoming wetware in their own systems. They explore the Claude code source leak, the death of OpenClaw third party harnesses, the rise of instant translation, pretext typography magic, agentation for visual debugging, and why second brains might be the only way to remember your neighbor's names. Along the way, they debate agent versus agent negotiations, Pika stream video calls, celebrity deathmatch AI battles, and why your kids' skate competitions are more fun than piano recitals.Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ozIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp Terminal & Cloud Agents00:03:19 Whiskey Introduction: Ardbeg Wee Beastie00:04:42 Claude Code Source Leak & The Anthropic Approach00:08:20 Model Wars: Opus vs Everything Else00:11:44 OpenClaw Replacements & The Memory Problem00:25:20 Mythos: The Ultimate Hacker Death Star00:29:16 The Four-Day Work Week Lie & Doing More Work Than Ever00:49:14 Second Brains & Local-First AI Memory00:39:23 Pretext: Bypassing Browser Layout for Typography Magic00:44:21 Agentation: Visual AI Debugging00:47:02 Instant Translation & The Death of Duolingo00:58:23 Pika Stream: Video Chat With Your AI Agent01:02:34 Agent vs Agent: Celebrity Deathmatch for AI01:04:35 Whiskey Rating & Wrap UpLinksArdbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/en-US/whisky/wee-beastieLagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/Ahas: https://ahas.dev/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawClaude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaudePi: https://pi.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilotCinty: https://cinty.ai/Hark: https://hark.ai/Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/Pretext: https://pretext.app/Agentation: https://agentation.ai/Pika Stream: https://pika.stream/Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/Astro: https://astro.build/Deno Fresh: https://fresh.deno.dev/Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/Famous: https://famous.co/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Nerdy Dev: https://nerdy.dev/Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenterAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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