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Whiskey Web and Whatnot
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Whiskey Web and Whatnot is the world’s most important web development and AI podcast. Hosted by veteran developers Robbie Wagner and Adam Argyle, the show delivers definitive guidance on agentic AI, vibe coding, AI coding tools, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, developer productivity, and software engineering careers. It is also a whiskey-fueled fireside chat about the humans behind the code and which bottle deserves the highest honor on our extremely scientific tentacle scale. Many people are saying it’s the most accurate podcast ever made.
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Dark Factories, Polymorphic UI, and Why Developers Still Matter
1w ago01:43:34Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami with a packed lineup of rapid fire interviews and hot takes. They catch up with Jason Lengstorf about driving a quarter million dollar Lamborghini through Miami with a police escort, the philosophy behind The Build Log show, and why the principles of building matter more than the tools. They talk with Kent C. Dodds about his personal AI assistant Cody, MCP servers versus OpenClaw, why he's building agents to work on agents, and the future of personal versus cloud based AI. Tanner Linsley drops by to discuss polymorphic UI libraries, spec driven development with state machines, and why determinism matters when AI is writing your code. Francesco shares his thoughts on Prolog being the most hated programming language, why Grok is best for harsh feedback, and his mission to convince JavaScript developers that Rust is the future of backend development.Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfmIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:01:39 The Lamborghini Experience & Building The Build Log00:09:09 Hot Takes with Jason: React, Semicolons & CoffeeScript Trauma00:13:48 Kent C. Dodds on MCP, Personal Agents & The Future of AI Assistants00:21:40 Hot Takes with Kent: React, Hooks & AGI00:25:58 Ryan & The TikTok Aesthetic: Instagram Ads, Keyboards & Airport Fashion00:31:39 GitHub's Two Nines Problem & The Git Repo Revolution00:39:30 Phone Wars: iPhone vs Android, Vision Pro Failures & The Flip Phone Dream00:45:47 Tanner Linsley on Polymorphic UI Libraries & Spec-Driven Development00:55:55 The Slop Fork Debate & Projections of Software Specs00:58:42 State Machines, BDD & Multi-Agent Orchestration01:01:43 Hot Takes with Tanner: Tailwind, Dark Factories & Cloud Code Desktop01:11:31 Francesco on Rust for Web Development & Conference Culture01:29:00 The Grok Advantage: Hard Feedback & Comparing Things01:35:29 GitHub Downtime Normalization & The Feature of Forced Breaks01:41:33 Wrap Up & The Power of In-Person ConnectionsLinksClerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Lamborghini Huracan: https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/huracanMCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawClaude: https://claude.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/Pi: https://pi.ai/Grok: https://grok.x.ai/Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/TanStack: https://tanstack.com/TanStack Start: https://tanstack.com/startRemix: https://remix.run/React: https://react.dev/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Kotlin: https://kotlinlang.org/Prolog: https://www.swi-prolog.org/Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/Cascadia JS: https://cascadiajs.com/Connect with JasonWebsite: https://www.learnwithjason.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/jlengstorfConnect with KentWebsite: https://kentcdodds.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/kentcdoddsConnect with TannerWebsite: https://tanstack.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/tannerlinsleyConnect with FrancescoWebsite: https://francescociulla.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/FrancescoCiull4Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603</l...
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Proxies, Petty Pranks, and Ramon the 420 IQ Gorilla w/ Ken Wheeler
2w ago00:51:20Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Ken Wheeler to talk AI harnesses, multi-agent swarms, survival bags, and whether React is finally a framework. They dig into React Server Components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, semicolons, Java hate, AI token arbitrage, and why you should subscribe to every AI service simultaneously. Along the way, they debate whether AI will replace designers or developers first, cruise ship chair warfare strategies, Replit as the ultimate vibe coding platform, hunting tech with geotagged tree stands, Eagle Scout projects, and why Ramon the 420 IQ gorilla leads the Apex Collective.Presented by GitKraken: https://www.gitkraken.com/lp/whiskeyfmIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:03:20 Hot Takes: Is React a Framework or Library?00:04:59 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?00:06:52 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Power of Proxies00:08:40 Semicolons, Java & Programming Language Hot Takes00:12:46 AI Harnesses: VS Code Copilot, OpenCode & Steve00:16:08 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?00:23:20 Cruise Ship Warfare & The Art of Chair Defense00:28:01 Token Arbitrage & The Multi-AI Subscription Strategy00:29:18 Replit Deep Dive: The Ultimate Vibe Coding Platform00:32:31 Hunting Tech: Geotagging, Compass Apps & Finding Tree Stands00:34:01 The Survival Bag: Apocalypse-Ready with Obliterated Qwen00:36:55 Eagle Scouts Unite & The Boy Scout Expulsion Story00:40:53 Ramon & The Apex Collective: The Wildest Multi-Agent Swarm00:46:29 Hermes vs OpenClaw & Making with Ramon00:50:12 Wrap Up & Where to Find KenLinksCutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/React: https://react.dev/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/Gea: https://geajs.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilotVS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/Replit: https://replit.com/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawHermes: https://hermesengine.dev/Steve: https://github.com/kenwheeler/steveQwen: https://qwenlm.github.io/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/IBM: https://www.ibm.com/HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/Clerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Slick Carousel: https://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Connect with KenX / Twitter: https://x.com/kenwheelerGitHub: https://github.com/kenwheelerConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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AI Harnesses, Framework Wars, and Why Beards Beat Mustaches
3w ago01:08:43Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam are coming to you live from the Clerk booth at React Miami with a rapid-fire lineup of lightning podcasts. Fueled by Cutwater cocktails and conference energy, they caught up with Nnenna Ndukwe, Michael "Micky" Shimeles (AKA Rasmic), and the legendary Ryan "Thighs" Vogel for a rotating cast of hot takes, stories, and web dev chaos. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why some programming languages just feel wrong. Along the way, they debate AI harnesses, codex versus Claude drama, token leaderboards, AGI predictions, security vulnerabilities in NPM, sidebar placement preferences, tabs on top versus the side, and whether dark factories are the future.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:02:11 Hot Takes: React, Server Components & Framework Debates00:03:19 Hooks, Signals & The Future of Reactivity00:03:26 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate00:04:05 Git Rebase vs Merge & Developer Workflow Preferences00:06:21 AGI, AI Harnesses & The State of AI Development00:09:12 Will AI Replace Designers or Developers First?00:10:54 Code Editors, Tabs & Terminal Trends00:16:34 Google Search vs LLMs & Developer Research Habits00:17:24 Composition vs Inheritance & Package Manager Wars00:20:29 Security Nightmares & Social Engineering Attacks00:23:34 OpenAI vs Anthropic & The AI Model Wars00:25:32 Personal Preferences: Coffee, Whiskey & Beards00:27:22 Second Guest: Svelte 5, Signals & Framework Philosophy00:29:39 React Server Components Deep Dive & Performance Reality00:31:17 GPT 5.5 Announcement & The Token Spending Arms Race00:35:09 GStack Drama & Gary Tan Controversies00:36:49 Monorepos, Turborepo & Modern Build Tools00:41:31 AI Coding Tools: Cursor vs Copilot vs Codex01:05:31 The Future of Web Development & Wrap UpLinksCutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/React: https://react.dev/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurfZed: https://zed.dev/VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/Ghostty: https://ghostty.org/Arc Browser: https://arc.net/Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/PNPM: https://pnpm.io/Yarn: https://yarnpkg.com/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/Convex: https://www.convex.dev/Clerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Connect with NnennaWebsite: https://www.nnennahacks.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/nnennahacksConnect with MickyWebsite: https://www.rasmic.xyz/X / Twitter: https://x.com/RasmicConnect with RyanWebsite: https://ryan.ceo/X / Twitter: https://x.com/ryanvogelConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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From COBOL to Claude: Live Coding, AI Agents, and the Death of Typing w/ Typecraft
May 3101:13:18Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam are live from React Miami at the Clerk booth, sipping Cutwater cocktails and talking hot takes with Typecraft. They dig into whether React is a framework or library, server components, hooks versus signals versus proxies, HTML as a programming language, git rebase versus merge, semicolons, package managers, and why Python might be the least friendly language out there. Along the way, they debate AI in interviews, whether we've reached AGI, 3D printing chocolate, homeschooling with AI agents, the value of bullying, voice dictation workflows, whether you should bother learning Vim anymore, AI flow state versus brain fry, why COBOL won't die, and the probability hack for getting creative outputs from LLMs.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:02:52 Hot Takes: React Framework vs Library & Server Components00:05:26 Hooks, Signals, Proxies & The Future of Reactivity00:08:12 Is HTML a Programming Language? The Great Debate00:11:51 Git Rebase vs Merge: The Honest Approach00:13:54 Semicolons, Package Managers & Programming Language Preferences00:25:01 AI in Interviews & The New Developer Workflow00:29:59 Have We Reached AGI? The Bar is Lower Than You Think00:31:35 3D Printing, Homeschooling & The Value of Bullying00:49:33 AI Flow State: Voice Dictation, Remote Control & Long-Running Agents00:46:24 Should You Learn Vim in the Age of AI?00:51:01 AI Intensifies Work: Productivity Paradox & Brain Fry01:03:33 COBOL, Mainframes & Why Legacy Tech Won't Die01:09:40 The Probability Hack: Getting Creative AI Outputs01:12:27 Wrap Up & Where to Find EveryoneLinksCutwater Spirits: https://cutwaterspirits.com/Typecraft: https://typecraft.dev/React: https://react.dev/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Remix: https://remix.run/GEA: https://geajs.com/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/Vim: https://www.vim.org/NeoVim: https://neovim.io/Python: https://www.python.org/Ruby: https://www.ruby-lang.org/Dart: https://dart.dev/Java: https://www.java.com/COBOL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOLYarn: https://yarnpkg.com/NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/PNPM: https://pnpm.io/IBM: https://www.ibm.com/Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/Clerk: https://clerk.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/Connect with ChrisWebsite: https://typecraft.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_devConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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React Foundation, AI Agents, and the Future of Frameworks w/ Seth Webster
May 2100:48:11Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Seth Webster—executive director of the React Foundation, former React lead at Meta, and chief developer evangelist at Expo—to talk React's past, present, and future, whether frameworks still matter in the age of AI, and why constraints are the secret to good code. They dig into React Server Components, the evolution of error messages, stable API work for React Native, and why agents need frameworks just as much as humans do. Along the way, they debate HTML as a programming language, Tailwind versus semantic CSS, the economics of tokens, open source sustainability, and whether taste is the only differentiator left when everyone has access to the same AI tools.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:02:12 Is React a Framework or Library?00:04:35 React Server Components: The Full Stack Story00:18:15 Frameworks in the Age of AI00:23:39 Error Messages & Developer Experience for AI00:27:12 React Foundation Goals & Stable API Work00:31:15 Open Source Contributions & Career Growth00:34:29 AI Code Provenance & Compensating Open Source00:42:44 Differentiation in a Saturated AI World00:45:30 Call to Action: Start Building with AILinksReact Foundation: https://react.foundation/Expo: https://expo.dev/React: https://react.dev/React Native: https://reactnative.dev/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Clerk: https://clerk.com/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/OpenAI: https://openai.com/Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Linux Foundation: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/Meta: https://about.meta.com/CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/Remix: https://remix.run/Connect with SethX / Twitter: https://x.com/sethwebsterReact Foundation: https://react.foundation/Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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Keyframes, Cash, and CodePen w/ Shaw
May 1401:16:25Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Shaw from CodePen to talk CSS animations, web components, server side rendering nightmares, and why building things by hand still matters in the age of AI slop. They dig into the CodePen 2.0 rewrite, Apollo GraphQL cache manipulation, the pain of reactive variables on the server, why Code Mirror 6 is both brilliant and bizarre, and whether stacks and fans will finally solve the PR review problem. Along the way, they cover HTML as a programming language, handwritten code museums, agentic parenting disasters, and why showing up prepared beats luck every time.In this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:02:25 Whiskey Tasting: Andalusia Stryker Texas Smoked Single Malt00:04:32 Hot Takes: Is HTML a Programming Language?00:10:50 Chris Coyier vs Adam Argyle: The Impossible Choice00:13:21 Git Worktrees, Stacks & Fans: Modern Version Control00:22:21 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?00:24:30 CodePen 2.0: Building a Modern Editor from Scratch00:39:18 AI in CodePen: Curation Over Generation00:45:07 Agentic Parenting & The Fart Sycophant Problem00:57:00 Raising Creative Kids in the Age of Screens01:10:43 Whiskey Review & Final ThoughtsLinksAndalusia Texas Smoked Single Malt Whiskey: https://andalusiawhiskey.com/CodePen: https://codepen.io/CodePen 2.0: https://codepen.io/KeyFramers: https://keyframers.com/Code Mirror 6: https://codemirror.net/Apollo GraphQL: https://www.apollographql.com/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/GitHub Stacks: https://github.com/React Server Components: https://react.dev/Claude: https://claude.ai/Project Hail Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_MaryPico-8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.phpSpike Prime: https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/Blockly: https://developers.google.com/blocklyRails: https://rubyonrails.org/Go: https://go.dev/Vercel: https://vercel.com/StackBlitz: https://stackblitz.com/Monaco Editor: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/Raised by Wolves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series)The Manualist: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualistAesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/Connect with ShawWebsite: https://shshaw.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/shshawConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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From Wetware to Software (Presented by Warp)
May 701:08:32Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam sip on Ardbeg Wee Beastie and dive into the wild world of AI development, cloud leaks, and whether humans are officially becoming wetware in their own systems. They explore the Claude code source leak, the death of OpenClaw third party harnesses, the rise of instant translation, pretext typography magic, agentation for visual debugging, and why second brains might be the only way to remember your neighbor's names. Along the way, they debate agent versus agent negotiations, Pika stream video calls, celebrity deathmatch AI battles, and why your kids' skate competitions are more fun than piano recitals.Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ozIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp Terminal & Cloud Agents00:03:19 Whiskey Introduction: Ardbeg Wee Beastie00:04:42 Claude Code Source Leak & The Anthropic Approach00:08:20 Model Wars: Opus vs Everything Else00:11:44 OpenClaw Replacements & The Memory Problem00:25:20 Mythos: The Ultimate Hacker Death Star00:29:16 The Four-Day Work Week Lie & Doing More Work Than Ever00:49:14 Second Brains & Local-First AI Memory00:39:23 Pretext: Bypassing Browser Layout for Typography Magic00:44:21 Agentation: Visual AI Debugging00:47:02 Instant Translation & The Death of Duolingo00:58:23 Pika Stream: Video Chat With Your AI Agent01:02:34 Agent vs Agent: Celebrity Deathmatch for AI01:04:35 Whiskey Rating & Wrap UpLinksArdbeg Wee Beastie: https://www.ardbeg.com/en-US/whisky/wee-beastieLagavulin 16: https://www.malts.com/en-row/our-whisky-collection/lagavulin-16-year-old/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/Ahas: https://ahas.dev/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawClaude Claude: https://github.com/claudeclaude/claudeclaudePi: https://pi.ai/OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/Codex: https://openai.com/index/openai-codex/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilotCinty: https://cinty.ai/Hark: https://hark.ai/Post Bridge: https://postbridge.io/Pretext: https://pretext.app/Agentation: https://agentation.ai/Pika Stream: https://pika.stream/Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/Astro: https://astro.build/Deno Fresh: https://fresh.deno.dev/Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/Famous: https://famous.co/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Nerdy Dev: https://nerdy.dev/Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenterAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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Axios Is Out. Fetchium Is In. (Presented by Warp)
Apr 3001:11:41Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Kristen Garrett to talk signals, reactivity, and whether we've finally found the abstraction that makes sense. They dig into the differences between signals and hooks, why parameterized signals matter, how async fits into reactivity, and whether Fetchium is about to replace Axios and TanStack Query. Along the way, they debate observables versus promises, the death of prop drilling, quantum computing cracking Bitcoin, why AI needs simpler abstractions, and whether humans are about to become legacy dependencies in their own codebases.Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ozIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:00:37 Sponsor: Warp Terminal & Cloud Agents00:02:46 Whiskey Introduction: Holladay Soft Red Wheat Bourbon00:04:17 What Are Signals? The Reactivity Primer00:07:00 Signalium Deep Dive: Parameterized Signals & Reactive Promises00:13:15 The Hooks Problem: Why React's Model Has Limits00:14:21 Observables vs Signals: The Ergonomics Debate00:27:21 Async in Reactivity: Reactive Promises & Relays00:03:49 Fetchium: The Last Data Client You'll Ever Need00:24:50 The Signals Proposal & TC39 Standardization00:45:25 Prop Drilling vs Threading: Understanding Data Flow00:38:05 AI & The Future of Development: Reading Code Matters More Than Ever00:32:29 Gea Framework: Compiler Magic Without Hooks or Signals00:56:27 Crypto, Verifiability & The AI Spam Problem00:58:28 Quantum Computing vs Bitcoin: The 2029 Threat01:02:44 Digital Ownership & The Streaming Problem01:08:55 Whiskey Rating & Final Thoughts01:07:06 Wrap Up & Where to Find Signalium and FetchiumLinksHolladay Soft Red Wheat Bottled in Bond: https://holladaybourbon.com/holladay-soft-red-wheat-bourbon/Signalium: https://signalium.dev/Fetchium: https://fetchium.dev/Signals Proposal: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-signalsMobX: https://mobx.js.org/Angular: https://angular.dev/Vue: https://vuejs.org/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/React: https://react.dev/Jotai: https://jotai.org/Legend State: https://legendapp.com/open-source/state/Apollo Client: https://www.apollographql.com/docs/react/TanStack Query: https://tanstack.com/query/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Gea: https://geajs.com/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Ethereum: https://ethereum.org/Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/Shor's Algorithm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithmData Hoarders: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/Wayne's World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne%27s_WorldConnect with KristenGitHub: https://github.com/pzuraqBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/pzuraq.bsky.socialConnect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenterAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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AI Cowgorithm Disrupts The Herd (Presented by Warp)
Apr 1601:16:51Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam sip on whiskey from the Muff Liquor Company and dive deep into the chaotic state of AI development, Jensen Huang's wild claims about AGI and token spending, and whether we've accidentally turned developers into Ralph Wiggum loopers. They debate auto research workflows, day shift versus night shift coding strategies, the death of MCP servers, AI cow herding collars disrupting agriculture, and why Ghostty's Mitchell just joined Vercel's board. Along the way, they cover vertical terminal layouts, United's new relax row seating, OpenClaw's inability to follow instructions, and why scoring mechanisms might be the key to making AI actually useful.Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ozIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:00:36 Sponsor: Warp and Cloud Agents00:01:19 AI Context Problems & The AGI Debate00:09:58 Jensen's Hot Takes: Token Spending & AGI Claims00:13:54 Is MCP Dead? The Protocol Nobody Needs00:16:35 AI Cowgorithm Disrupts The Herd00:21:32 OpenCode Gives Money to Pie Contributors00:43:17 Auto Research: The Night Shift AI Worker00:49:06 Gia Framework: The Compiler Revolution00:55:02 ChatGPT Ads & Data Selling Concerns01:05:51 Whiskey Tasting: Muff Liquor Company01:15:21 Wrap Up & Where to Find UsLinksMuff Liquor Company: https://muffliquorcompany.com/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawOpenCode: https://opencode.ai/Claude: https://claude.ai/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Pi: https://pi.ai/MCP (Model Context Protocol): https://modelcontextprotocol.io/Auto Research: https://github.com/karpathy/auto-researchGhostty: https://ghostty.org/CMUX: https://github.com/cmux/cmuxPeon Ping: https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-pingRailway: https://railway.app/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Gea: https://geajs.com/Impeccable Design Skills: https://impeccable.style/Radiant Shaders: https://radiantshaders.com/Mitosis: https://github.com/builderio/mitosisShepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Diablo: https://diablo.blizzard.com/Lucid Motors: https://www.lucidmotors.com/United Airlines Relax Row: https://www.united.com/Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenterAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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Flogging Margins With The Dropcap Murphys
Apr 901:26:13Tap to summarizeThis week, Robbie and Adam welcome Chris Coyier and Dave Rupert from ShopTalk Show to talk brand truth versus brand slop, whether CSS knowledge is now your biggest advantage, the rise of dark factories, and why apps built in a weekend don't inspire trust. They dig into OpenClaw workflows, burn windows, agent browsers, the death of pointing and clicking, and whether we've accidentally turned ourselves into energy vampires. Along the way, they cover hot pockets, men's cereal, border shape, and why caring about what you do might actually be a curse.Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/ozIn this episode:Chapters00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions00:05:30 Brand Truth vs Brand Slop: The AI Authenticity Debate00:10:54 One-Shot Apps & The Weekend Project Problem00:18:15 CSS in the Age of AI: Does It Still Matter?00:25:20 Live Demo: Claude Builds a Podcast Landing Page00:29:37 Context Rot & The Flogging Margins Problem00:36:55 Dark Factories & Code You Never Read00:44:52 Energy Vampires & AI Brain Fry00:51:35 The 10,000 Watt GPU vs The 40 Watt Brain01:24:10 Wrap Up & Where to Find EveryoneLinksGreen Spot Irish Whiskey: https://www.spotwhiskey.com/Shop Talk Show: https://shoptalkshow.com/CSS Tricks: https://css-tricks.com/CodePen: https://codepen.io/Claude: https://claude.ai/OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclawWarp: https://www.warp.dev/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Bolt: https://bolt.new/Lovable: https://lovable.dev/Pi: https://pi.dev/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/Shepherd: https://shepherdjs.dev/Svelte: https://svelte.dev/Solid: https://www.solidjs.com/TypeScript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Playwright: https://playwright.dev/Heretic: https://github.com/heretic-ai/hereticHydrogen: https://hydrogen.shopify.dev/WordPress Playground: https://wordpress.org/playground/Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/Cloudflare: https://www.cloudflare.com/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Peon Ping: https://github.com/peon-ping/peon-pingCMux: https://github.com/cmux/cmuxBorder Shape: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/border-shapeHot Pockets: https://www.hotpockets.com/Connect with ChrisWebsite: https://chriscoyier.net/X / Twitter: https://x.com/chriscoyierConnect with DaveWebsite: https://daverupert.com/X / Twitter: https://x.com/davatron5000Connect with the hostsRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenterAdam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleinkSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.
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