This week, Robbie and Adam welcome Shaw from CodePen to talk CSS animations, web components, server side rendering nightmares, and why building things by hand still matters in the age of AI slop. They dig into the CodePen 2.0 rewrite, Apollo GraphQL cache manipulation, the pain of reactive variables on the server, why Code Mirror 6 is both brilliant and bizarre, and whether stacks and fans will finally solve the PR review problem. Along the way, they cover HTML as a programming language, handwritten code museums, agentic parenting disasters, and why showing up prepared beats luck every time.

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
00:02:25 Whiskey Tasting: Andalusia Stryker Texas Smoked Single Malt
00:04:32 Hot Takes: Is HTML a Programming Language?
00:10:50 Chris Coyier vs Adam Argyle: The Impossible Choice
00:13:21 Git Worktrees, Stacks & Fans: Modern Version Control
00:22:21 React Server Components: Mistake or Masterpiece?
00:24:30 CodePen 2.0: Building a Modern Editor from Scratch
00:39:18 AI in CodePen: Curation Over Generation
00:45:07 Agentic Parenting & The Fart Sycophant Problem
00:57:00 Raising Creative Kids in the Age of Screens
01:10:43 Whiskey Review & Final Thoughts

Links

Andalusia Texas Smoked Single Malt Whiskey: https://andalusiawhiskey.com/
CodePen: https://codepen.io/
CodePen 2.0: https://codepen.io/
KeyFramers: https://keyframers.com/
Code Mirror 6: https://codemirror.net/
Apollo GraphQL: https://www.apollographql.com/
Next.js: https://nextjs.org/
GitHub Stacks: https://github.com/
React Server Components: https://react.dev/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Project Hail Mary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary
Pico-8: https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php
Spike Prime: https://education.lego.com/en-us/products/lego-education-spike-prime-set/45678/
Blockly: https://developers.google.com/blockly
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
Go: https://go.dev/
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
StackBlitz: https://stackblitz.com/
Monaco Editor: https://microsoft.github.io/monaco-editor/
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
Raised by Wolves: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series)
The Manualist: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheManualist
Aesop Rock: https://www.aesoprock.com/
Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
Nerdy.dev: https://nerdy.dev/

Connect with Shaw

Website: https://shshaw.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/shshaw

Connect with the hosts

Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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