This week, Robbie and Adam sit down with Amelia Wattenberger—digital creative, product builder, and former principal research engineer at GitHub—to talk about AI agents, the death of chatbots, and whether typing code is officially over. They dig into the exhausting pace of AI tooling, why specs still aren't taking off, the anxiety of being managed by your own bots, and how Amelia's new project Intent is bundling workspaces, agents, and browsers into one cohesive developer experience. Along the way, they debate voice coding, the loss of craft, rubber duck debugging in the age of Claude, and why slowing down might be the only way to go fast.

Presented by Warp: https://www.warp.dev/oz

In this episode:

Chapters

00:00:00 Welcome & Introductions
00:02:06 Whiskey Tasting: Jypsi Explorer Bourbon
00:09:00 Were AI Chatbots a Mistake?
00:18:49 The Manager Has Become The Managed
00:27:39 The Death of the Craft & The New Loop
00:37:07 Voice vs Typing: The Future of Input
00:41:51 Intent: Rethinking Developer Workspaces
00:44:39 Spectrum Development & Agent Orchestration
00:51:49 Building Across Platforms & Custom Keyboards
01:03:24 Wrap Up & Where to Find Intent

Links

Jypsi Explorer: https://whiskeyjypsi.com/whiskey/explorer/
Eric Church: https://www.ericchurch.com/
Dreamweaver: https://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html
Rent a Human: https://rentahuman.ai/
OpenClaw: https://github.com/cncf/openclaw
Claude: https://claude.ai/
OpenCode: https://opencode.ai/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Intent: https://intent.ai/
Augment Code: https://www.augmentcode.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Swach: https://www.swach.io/
Zed: https://zed.dev/
Figma: https://www.figma.com/
Webflow: https://webflow.com/
VSCode: https://code.visualstudio.com/
Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
Elgato: https://www.elgato.com/
Linux: https://www.linux.org/
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/

Connect with Amelia

Website: https://wattenberger.com/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/Wattenberger

Connect with the hosts

Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/ChuckCarpenter
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink

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