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A Messy Conversation About Botox, Fillers & Filters | Sadie Robertson Huff & Korie Robertson
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A
What's up, everybody? I hope you're having a great start to your week. It's about to get a little. A little better. A lot better. I was gonna say a little juicy because we're kind of talking about a sassy comment right now.
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B
A little messy.
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A
A little messy. That's what I should say, because we are back with a messy conversation. It's been a while since we've had a messy conversation. We used to do these all the time. We've done messy conversations on anxiety. We've done messy conversations on body image, sex. We've done a lot of messy conversations. Tattoos. And they've been. They've been great. And honestly, you guys have loved them. It's not from a lack of y' all asking us to do them. It's really that each time we do these, this is a messy conversation. Because this topic is messy. It's. There's not like a, oh, the Bible says this. Here it is. Or this is what we think. It's not black and white. It's kind of something that we want to talk about and we also care about because these conversations are messy. And with that comes a little. A lot of hurt. Sometimes. Sometimes people on the other side of us who are listening to this, you might already have your walls of defense up just by, you know, reading the topic of conversation we're talking about. But I just want to say this is a conversation for all of us. Mom and I have been so encouraged as we've read the Word this morning, preparing for this conversation. And we just have so much to Talk about when it comes to this topic. So we're talking about Botox, fillers, filters, all the things which were not in.
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B
Existence when this was written. I know, but somehow there are things in this book that speak to this conversation.
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So it's actually wild. Like, we were just. I was just praying, and I was like, God, how cool is it that we're talking about a very, like, trendy topic right now, but that 2,000 years ago, you even spoke into. And like, God, you are holy and you are glorious and you are wonderful, and you are the God of the universe, and yet you still empathize with us and our weaknesses and our daily struggles and even, like, God's perspective on this. I just think about him saying, you know, I think about even with David being anointed, and he's saying, like, God looks at the. He's a man, looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart. And just. Just a reminder that we're talking about, like, an outward appearance thing, but God is looking at the heart in all of us. Like, whether you have Botox and fillers or you don't, like, God's not looking at, like, outward appearance. He's looking at your heart. And that's what we're going to talk about today. And I just want to start this off by Matthew 7, because it feels like a good place to start. It says, Matthew 7, judge not that you be not judged, for with the judgment you pronounce, you will also be judged. And with the measure that you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but you do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, let me take that speck out of your eye when there is a log in my own eye? You hypocrite. First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. And so I say that to say, and I start this out by saying, there is no judgment here. If you came on here, you've been getting Botox fillers for years, and you hear me say, I haven't. That's not that. Oh, she's judging me. No, we're going to talk about all the different nuances to that. And if you're watching this and not just listening, I have a full face of makeup on today, and I definitely care what I look like. I'm following the trends, too. So this is not. There's no judgment here. This is just a messy conversation. And we're going to dive into all of it.
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Defining these messy conversations. It's like, yes, we're not giving you this clear answer of, like, do this, don't do that, or whatever, because that. We're not speaking where the Bible doesn't speak. And that's one thing that can be really difficult. It's like we divide ourselves over things that the Bible doesn't divide you over. Like, the. The Bible speaks to the heart. And that is where I feel like every messy conversation, we always get back to, like, it's all about the heart. It's all about where what is the inside. What's inside. And you mentioned that, that verse about David. I actually went to that this morning because I was like, oh, I want to remember what that was specifically referring to. And he was talking about how when Samuel went to anoint him as king, he looked at all the brothers, and Eliab, one of the brothers, came in and he was like a soldier and looked like, okay, this is, like, going to be king. And he was like, no, don't. Don't look at that. That's not what God is looking at. And so it was such a good reminder to just as we, yeah, we can make judgments about people based on what they look like one way or.
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The other one where the other is.
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B
Going to say all natural and letting their grays fly or whatever, or whether they're like Botox fillers, all that. Like, we can make judgments on people either. Either way. Where God's like, nope, I'm not even looking at that.
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A
I'm not looking at that. I'm looking at the heart. And that's what we really want to talk about. And I want to say why this conversation even got brought up. Messy conversations aren't something that we sit around. What should we talk about next? It normally comes from. We see some, like, really just our comments, people commenting about something a lot. And we're like, okay, people are asking this question. I think it'd be helpful for us to dive into it. And this was, like, so out of left field because I posted a little Q and A on Instagram, and I was like, ask me anything. And normally I get pretty similar questions, like, are y' all gonna have another kid? Do you want to try for a boy? How's Kit doing? How's Honey and Haven? You know, talk about Duck Dynasty or the podcast or Christian, or, you know, it's like, what I expect to get. But on this particular day, I had so Many comments. Do you get Botox? Do you get Botox? Do you get Botox? You get Botox? And I was like, okay, this is so random. I was like, maybe my skin's been looking good because everybody's asking if I'm getting Botox. I was kind of like, thank you. But then I was like, okay, I kind of want to speak to this. But I wrestled with. I didn't want people to feel judged if I say I don't get Botox. And then you know how that whole thing is. And so I was like, okay. So I thought about it for a little while. I'm not making a statement like, I don't get Botox because I think it's bad. I just don't get Botox. Yeah, that's what I was wrestling with. I'm 28, and so I, at this point, hadn't really thought about getting Botox. However, I do see on social media a lot of young people are getting Botox and a lot of my friends get Botox. And something that hadn't really crossed my mind yet, but I have been seeing it. And so anyways, I shared. I don't get Botox. It's not that I have super strong opinions against Botox. I said, however, I do feel like it's really sad that young people feel the pressure to get Botox in this day and age, because I feel like we are trying to uphold this image that isn't really realistic. And so that makes me sad. But I, you know, it is what it is. I don't get both of us. I think it's helpful when people share whenever they do. So we have real estate expectations. I kind of just like posted my thoughts. And then I said in the next slide, also, and this was not an ad like, they, we don't work together. Maybe we'll one day primarily Pure sponsor me. But I posted and I was like, but I do use primarily Pure products. And I have seen, like, a big difference in my skin with that because there's like a plumping cream and plumping spray that I actually think works really well. And I think that's like the shine that people might have been asking, like, if I got Botox from. That was my thought. So I just posted it. Well, that story got over half a million views. And not only that, but my primary Pure link that I posted got over 20,000 link clicks.
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Whoa.
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Which. That's, like, a lot crazy. That's a lot. And I feel like if you're, you know, if you look at my following. Oh, you have 5 million followers. That makes sense. That's not normal. Like, algorithm doesn't work like, you have 5 million followers, 500 people see it. No, like that. That was like, way more than what I normally get. And as far as link clicks go, there's brands that do sponsor me that I love and support and shout out that don't get close to 20,000 link clicks. So I say that to say I was like, whoa, okay. Girls who are following me are really interested in the Botox conversation. I had a lot of DMS back to me about how that was really helpful and they wish people were more honest about if they get Botox or they don't. So that there's realistic expect. Um, I had a lot of people want me to talk more about it and my why behind it. And then a lot of people obviously were like, I want to use your products that you're using. Um, so all that to say, this is something that I felt like we should talk about because I think it is really important and I do think there's a difference in how we could approach it from a How old are you?
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52.
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52 year old perspective and a 28 year old perspective.
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Yeah.
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Because if we're going back to the heart and the why, there's a different why for Maybe someone who's 52 would want to get Botox and why someone who's 28 would want to get Botox. And so I do want to speak to the why. But before we kind of get into all of that, mom, will you share a little bit about your journey with Botox? All the different things. Whenever I recorded this episode, I mentioned how much I love Primally Pure and their products, and I even said, you know, they weren't a sponsor, but I'd love them to be. Well, after finishing that recording, my team reached out to see if they could get a code for y'. All. And I am so excited because now they are officially partnered to bring you an awesome offer. This is so exciting. I'm all about simplifying my routine and swapping out products for cleaner options that actually do something good for me. And Primally Pure just gets that. Some of my absolute favorites are their plumping serum. I literally use it every single day, which is so amazing. Makes my skin feel so hydrated. I love their lip oil. I actually just ordered a new lip oil for them, the latte one, and some new natural deodorant that I'm so excited to try because all of their skin products I tried are just absolutely Fantastic. Their products truly transform my skin. Even Christian noticed. He was like, wow, your skin looks amazing. And so. Okay. Shout out. Boo. Everything from Primally Pure is crafted with real intentional ingredients. No weird fragrances, no fillers. Also love that Primally Pure is a female founded company built by women who care deeply about health. They have products for skin, body and even babies, so it's easy to make cleaner swaps for the whole family. Actually do use their baby products on kit and it's like my go to. So if you've been wanting to try Primally Pure, now's the time. Use the code woah. To get 15 off your Primarily Pure purchase, visit Primarily Pure dot com. That's Primally Pure P R I M A L L Y P u r e.com and use the code Whoa. At checkout for 15 off your order. That's primally pure.com with the code whoa. So this is obviously a very on trend topic. We have some facts here that actually speak more to this situation.
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Okay, I thought this one was crazy. The average millennial takes 28, 000 selfies annually. Wait, I'm terrible at math, but 28, 000 annually? So if you do like 365 days a year, that's actually crazy. How many is that per day? How does that work?
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Maybe Snapchat people are like just taking so many selfies.
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Oh, maybe so they're known as the selfie generation. It makes sense why young people are opting for more instant gratification of these non invasive fillers. It's true. Because like, if you're taking that many pictures of yourself, that's a lot of time.
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Just look at yourself. I'll never forget whenever I was in a wedding one time and I said something about my arms. I was like, oh, I don't like the way my arms look. And Lainey said, you've looked at yourself on camera too much. And I was like, it's true. I have looked at myself on camera too much. Like I have seen myself on a camera too much. But it's not just people who are on TV or on podcasts, whatever. Everybody's seeing theirself on camera because everybody's taking self.
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This one says 90% of girls say that they follow at least one social media account that makes them feel less beautiful.
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A
Oh.
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I mean, that's sad. But it's like. But it is kind of like reality. Like you're gonna see people that are gonna make you feel less beautiful because other people are beautiful. Like that's just normal.
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I Love how you and T Mama first videos. You're like, yeah, get over it.
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I'm just like, that is true. Like, I mean, other people are more beautiful than you. It's true. You're more beautiful than other people. I put my beautiful.
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That's just life.
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Like, I mean, I don't really.
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There are people beautiful.
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If your standard is to try to be more beautiful than everybody else, you're going to constantly be.
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It's a tough one to uphold.
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You're never going to uphold that one, so just let that one go.
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Is there any more facts?
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Okay, let's see. Botox is the number one non surgical cosmetic procedure. Filler is number two. Seven to eight million Botox procedures performed annually in the US Alone. Wow. So this is a.
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This is a good topic.
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Topic, yeah.
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Something we're facing.
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94 of participants stated that they use filters because they felt pressured to look a particular way. 80% of girls have downloaded a filter or used an app to change how they look in photos. I don't use filters and photos, but you better believe I'm getting the best light.
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I do use filters. I'm trying to find the best app, I think. I mean, it's like a not really. Not like that kind of filler. It doesn't change the way I look. It changes the color.
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Yeah, I'm not talking about.
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But I think that the, the, the reason this matters is because. Because it is such a trend and because the whole world does it, when you don't do it, you do feel less than. And so there is that tension and that rub of feeling like I have to do something to feel enough.
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Yeah, that's the problem we're talking about. Yes. And there is a, like a trend, I think, of people being like, okay, I can't win in this. I'm going to just be natural and, and go with it. I definitely, I'm. I'm one to, like, say, you know, if I do something, I'll share it. I'm not trying to, like, hide whatever I do or whatever. I wouldn't do something that I'm not like, okay with, I guess spiritually or whatever. So I don't get Botox anymore. But I did get Botox for probably like 10 years. And the first when I first started getting it is because I had this, like, which. This is one of those so silly things because it is like everybody has those silly things or whatever that bother them themselves. But, like, one eyebrow is higher than the other and you can see it in, like when I wear sunglasses it's like this one eyebrow just, like, sticks up.
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Okay. After you get done with this, we're reading about the spotlight effect.
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Exactly. It's like no one else noticed it, but it bothered me or whatever. So I was like, oh, I heard about this thing called Botox. This is probably like, that's probably, like 40, probably 13 years ago, heard about Botox and was like, oh, I wonder if I would, like, lower that eyebrow and then make a match.
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And so.
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So if you watch some of the Duck Dynasty episodes, you probably noticed, like, one eyebrow moves and the other one doesn't. I was, like, experimenting, trying to figure it out.
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It was a Botox experiment. You know, buns of people were watching.
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Go in and be like, hey, I want to look really natural. I don't want to be weird, but, like, can you make this eyebrow, like, a little lower than this one?
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Or whatever?
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So it's so silly. And so I did Botox for probably about 10 years, basically, like, trying to even out the eyebrows. I have a little line right there that I didn't like. Then I was like, oh, the crow's feet. You know, just then it started, like, adding, like, oh, I could do these and I could do that. Then I could do that. And, you know, I. I did not. I quit. I quit doing Botox probably three or four years ago, maybe five now. I don't know. But it wasn't because I thought it was, like, wrong spiritually or anything like that. I quit because I really started actually getting, like, healthier, like, buying natural products to, you know, wash our clothes in or. And clean our house in and, you know, getting away from chemicals and what I'm eating and all this kind of stuff. And then I was like, yet I'm literally injecting something into my skin that is called a toxin. It's like a toxic toxin. I was like, okay, something does not feel like right and does not, like, jive with this. So I was like, okay, I'm going to give up the Botox. Even though I did like the way it, you know, did help my skin a little bit. And I did, you know, and I'm not going to lie. Whenever I see myself on this podcast, sometimes in the clips, I'm like, I'm sharing this clip despite the fact that I have a lot of wrinkles, because the lighting here is not always great.
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All right.
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No, I'm getting.
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It's great. It's sometimes too good.
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It's too good for when you're 50. It's great for when you're 28, not that great.
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I see these clips, I got to swallow my brags. I'm like, just.
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It's about what I say, it's not about how I look or whatever. So we all care about how we look. I mean, we're not on here to say like we don't care about how we look. I think that going back to that heart conversation, you know, it is like the why and how much you think about it and how much that takes over your life and all that kind of stuff. But I, so I did quit because I was like, okay, I really just don't want to inject a chemical in my body. And I was doing, you know, I was being careful about what I put on my skin and all that. And so that's the reason I stopped doing it. I have tried, you know, lasers. I'm like, okay, laser or whatever, but we can tell that story. Laser.
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A
Okay, let me read the spotlight effect and then I want to hear about the laser thing because you just said like everybody has their thing like their one eyebrow or they're this or they're that that. Like you notice that other people probably don't know, cuz you're like, you'll probably notice on Duck Dynasty, but probably nobody noticed.
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No, but no, now that I say it, you will go back and notice it maybe. But no, no one noticed it at the time.
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I, I think about that all the time. And actually this is kind of hard though, because sometimes people do notice. And like we have a lot of people watching us online and they comment stuff that, that I don't even think about. And then all of a sudden I'm thinking about it because one person said this one comment and then you're thinking about it. But it's very rare. But this is like an interesting thing. So it's called the spotlight effect psychology. So it says the spotlight effect in psychology is the common tendency to overestimate how much others notice about our appearance, actions and mistakes, making us feel like we are under a literal spotlight even when we're not. Which this is really interesting because I saw a dancer post a post recently and I just actually wrote about this in the book I'm writing. She posted this picture and she was under a spotlight because she's a literal dancer and her body was like perfect because she dances for a living, as one would be if you dance for a living and you look at this picture and the first thing you think is like, wow, she looks stunning. She has like a beaded outfit on in the middle of a Spotlight. Every muscle's defined. And her caption was, I actually had this picture taken of me two years ago. Never post it, because I hated the way I looked. Because she felt like she looked too masculine, which no one would have ever thought that, but to her. And she was under a literal spotlight. And she ends up saying like, she looks back at it now and sees a different person. And not because it's a different person, but she said, because I'm a different person looking at it. And I was like, man, that's like such a good perspective. Because I do think you look back later and you probably don't notice a thing that you were consumed by at the time. It's not even a big deal. Like, it's like, oh yeah, my eyebrow. But it's. But like at the time you probably were thinking about that because I do that too.
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B
I remember when I first started getting like spider veins.
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A
Oh, I do have that.
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B
Yeah, Yeah, I got them young. They run in our family young. And I remember being like so bothered by them. And now like, I could not care less about my spider veins. That's like the least of my worries, you know.
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That's good to hear.
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But yes, whenever. Yeah, there are things that like, bother you, but then later you're like, why did that bother me? That's so nothing.
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You're like, why? It goes on to say that seeing the world from our own perspective, it causes self consciousness, leading to worry about perceived judgments. But studies show that people are far less observant about our own flaws than we imagine. Often, often preoccupied by their own lives, which is so true. And then it says why it happened, this idea of egocentrism. And it says, we are the center of our own universe. So we naturally assume others focus on us as much as we focus on ourselves, forgetting that they are focused on their own world. And I think this is kind of the problem with. I think when you look at the heart problem, it's. We do go so inward and so self focused and it does become obsessive at times. And it's like all we can think about is that. And so you're. And it actually talks about missed opportunities because you're like on a Duck Dynasty moment. And it steals from the moment. Cause you're thinking about what it looks like. Although you had so many beautiful. I'm using you as an example of times I could use myself as an example in a hundred different ways. It's like, you know, I've done things and then I look back and I'm like, oh, shoot. Like, what I'm saying is really good. Like, you said that that clip is really good, but I hate the way I look. And then I'm like, oh, I don't want to post where somebody could have literally come to Jesus because of that. And here I am being like, oh, my hair looks bad. You know what I'm saying? Like, but it's, it's just, we get so selfish. Yeah, you have to fight it. There are days as a mom where I feel like I'm doing all the things, but my nutrition can sometimes take a back seat. One thing I've been way more mindful of lately is actually getting enough protein. And Taylor Duke's Wellness protein powder has been such a win for not just me, but my whole house. I've been on the hunt for something clean and simple that doesn't rely on a ton of dairy. So when I find Taylor Duke's Wellness, I was so pumped. This protein is made from 100% grass fed bone broth and it's got literally everything you need. I love that it's collagen rich and made with ingredients I genuinely feel good about, especially my kids. We've been making some cherry smoothies with our vanilla protein. We make some chocolate peanut butter ones. Our go to right now is the vanilla. We use it pretty much every single day. Christian even made late night smoothies for the girls last night and we reach for it in the morning. So I love that I can blend a smoothie whenever I want. And also, also, if you get into the Taylor Dukes, they have so many amazing products. Their chai latte is divine. Another reason I'm loving this brand is the heart behind it. So Taylor Dukes is a functional medicine nurse practitioner and a fellow Christian mom and the whole brand is about intentional pressure free wellness. It's not about perfection, just support. TDW has their best offer right now and you do not want to miss this. You can use my link shop Taylor Dukes wellness.com Whoo. To save 15 off, off site, wide, anytime. Plus for the next 48 hours, you can also unlock two free gifts with any full size protein purchase which you're going to want to do because you're going to want to try a lot of it. That's shop.taylordukeswellness.com Whoa.
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B
Like I have to intentionally be like, okay, I'm posting that picture even though it's not the best of me, but it's because I love it because I'm with my grandchildren or. Or Sadie said something great in this clip or Whatever. It really has to be, like, what is more important to you, Even though it is in our nature to care about that, I think. But it's about what's more important, what is of higher value, I guess. Well, okay, tell them. Well, first, I have to say a few things about the spotlight effect, because I think that's so true. And one I'm at the risk of. I say Jordan Peterson every time. But one thing he says is, I think it's so good. He said there's virtually no difference. Difference in thinking about yourself and being miserable.
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A
Oh.
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B
He said, like, a psychological, like, fact. It's like, the more you think about yourself, the more miserable you are. It's like, no, it's like. He's like, it's so true. And I tell this story all the time, but I guess it's just relevant. So I'm gonna tell it again. But it was a defining moment for me, actually, in my looks and with my mom. Something my mom did for me and did said to me one time. It was like, middle school. I was just getting into, like, hair and makeup and all this kind of stuff and really caring about it. And I was, like, you know, carrying my little press powder with me in my purse everywhere I went, you know, and had to have it all just right. We were going on a road trip. I had not gotten ready that morning. I'll never forget this. I just have remembered it because it stuck with me. So we're going on a road trip. I. We get to a gas station, and I won't get out of the car because I wasn't, like, ready to go in a gas station. Like, how pitiful is that?
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Middle school.
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Middle school, exactly. I wasn't, like, ready. And so mom was like, nobody's thinking about you. Like, she literally, like, nobody else cares about what you look like. And so it's like, she's like, you're thinking too much about yourself. And, I mean, she just, like, let me have it, and I needed it. It was perfect. It was like, she's so right. Like, nobody else is really looking at you. They're thinking too much about. They're thinking more about themselves than they are thinking about you. So you need to just let it be. Be. So anyway, all right, now, really, my laser story. So I. After I stopped getting Botox, I was like, okay, I want to do, like, you know. Yeah, take care of my skin. So I did this laser treatment, and I'm kind of one of these, like, jump. I, like, saw it on the. You know, I went to get a massage or something and saw it on the paper.
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I was like, oh, mom always does stuff like this. I'm like, what? She just be like, yeah, saw it, did it.
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I do a lot of research and so I like signed up and I went into this laser and when I tell you, you I looked like a puffer blowfish purple.
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Please. Do you have pictures? Can we.
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I don't think I could do it. No, that, that's another thing. I don't know if I can show those pictures. So when I left there, my face was on a fire. It was like I gotten the worst time of my life. I was like, woo. That was really intense. And then it proceeded to get worse and worse and worse. I was so swollen. I looked so bad. I had to hide in my home. I couldn't drive through a drive through. I looked so bad. I was like, I can't leave my house. So it happened to be Bella's birthday. This is the sad part about it. Bella's birthday was like two days later. And that was when I was at my worst. I was like, I can't have everybody over for a birthday party looking like this. I will scare the grandchildren. That was like the one time for her birthday. She was mad because I could only. I told Bell and Jacob could come over. But I was like, no one else can come over. Like I will scare the grandchildren. I look that bad. But I was like, your mom ruined my birthday because you had a laser.
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Tree, got a laser dream and done self centered.
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And I was like, I will never do that again. It was horrible. But I might do it again because it was good.
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But I might play in my five days out a little bit better.
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I will plan it if I do next time. But yes, it was, it was intense. That is so funny.
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The things we go through. The things we go through for these things. And so that, that kind of goes back to. It's like if you say you can't do Botox as far as looking at from a spiritual perspective, then what's the difference? And you know, like you've said getting your hair colored or doing makeup or all the different things that you do to care about your appearance. So again it goes to the heart. Now I do think one thing about Botox and fillers and this kind of thing thing is that it does seem to try to capture like a look, like a specific look where I do feel like we're conforming to the same look. And that's not how we were created to be. Like my whole thing Live, original. Like, you were created originally by design. And I do think it's sad sometimes that we're all conforming to the same image when God actually made us in our unique image. And that's like the beauty and the blessing.
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And that is something that I do think is like, like, newer and more unique to what, like, you guys are experiencing as young people. Because, yes, we did have, you know, back in the day, it was like magazine filters and you had these magazines and these women were really beautiful in magazines. But then all of a sudden we were aware that, like, oh, that's a filter, you know, the Photoshop and all these things. Like, there's ways that they make these women look different or skinnier or whatever it is. That's the beauty standard of the time. And so. But it wasn't this, like, conformity to one specific type of beauty. I don't.
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Yeah.
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That I remember from my, like, yeah, 20s or whatever wasn't as much that. Now, obviously, styles, like, you know, styles change. And so we do, like, do our hair a certain way because everybody does their hair that way or whatever, but it to the effect of, like, we can actually change the look of our face, least to match a specific appearance, a style. And it wasn't a thing then, which.
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Is risky because trends come and go and you're making more permanent decisions on things that aren't going to last forever. And so, but. But I do think, and we talked about this because whenever I said that on social media, about how I feel like it's good when people share what they've done because then it sets a realistic expectation and you kind of push back because you were like, well, everyone doesn't have to share what they do. You know, there shouldn't be an expectation to share whatever you do. And I'm like, no, I. I get that. And I agree with that because I always say social media is not the place to share everything. Like, you don't have to share your whole life with the whole world. I don't even think that's wise at all. But the reason I said that is because if you look at our world, like you said y' all had magazines. We have influencers, okay? And when you look at two of the top, most influential beauty people, and I say that by dollar number because they both are billionaires now because of a makeup line and a skincare line. You look at Hailey Bieber and you look at Kylie Jenner, and they've been extremely successful by marketing their look and then saying, and here's what I use lip kit by Kylie and then, you know, skincare by Haley. And I think, you know what bothers me about it is that I think girls go, okay, I want that look, so I'm gonna buy that lipstick. Well, then you put on Kylie's lipstick, and your lips don't look like Kylie's because Kylie's lips didn't look like Kylie's lips because she put on lipstick.
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Right.
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Because she got work done. Haley looks amazing. Her skin is stunning. But when you buy Rhode, which I use as well, my skin's not going to look like Haley's because I use road. She has stuff done that's making her skin look beautiful. And that's not wrong for Kylie and Haley to do. But what's wrong about it in the marketing is that it's saying, if you do this, then you're going to get that. And then girls go, well, why don't I look like that? Yet? I actually can't achieve that in a natural way. And so I don't. That's what bothers me about it, is that it's this look that's being marketed to you, saying if you do this, you're going to get that, and then you don't. And then you feel like you're not enough and that you're not made enough. When really you're comparing something to. You're comparing apples to oranges. Like, this isn't the same thing, you know? And so I just like the realistic expectation on, like, what you can achieve naturally, which is why I said I use primarily pure products. I think that this helps my skin. This is kind of where I'm at with it, you know? And so, yeah, I think it's more of the marketing thing. And when I think about a scripture to tie to that, I think about, do not conform to the pattern of this world. Be transformed by the renewal of your mind. Because it's so easy to look at the world and go like, oh, I want that. I want that. And the more you look at it, the more you're going to want it. The more you look at an image, the more you're going to desire it for it to be like that. And you do that with yourself, too. Because, like, for me, I had been seeing everybody get their eyebrows laminated, and they look beautiful. And I'm like, how do your eyebrows look like that? So I brought about every single brow gel there is. I have, like, the Anastasia one and the this one and that one and the Jones Row one. And I love all of them, but I'm like, my brows still don't look like that. And I'm like, I have good brows. Why can I not get this look like I have thick brows? So then they're like, oh, no, we get them laminated. So then I'm like, okay, so I go get my eyebrows laminated and tinted and wax and do the whole thing. I'm like, oh, this looks awesome. Awesome. Well, that lasted for a week. And now my eyebrows are not laminated. And I look back at when they were, and I'm like, that looks so much better. And so again, it's like the expectation of what you can achieve when you use certain things. It's like, this is gonna be my natural look, and that's okay. But if I want that look, I have to do this. And I think something in all of this that we have to find in ourselves is contentment, which is where we're at. There's a verse that says, godliness with contentment is great gain. What a blessing it is to just be content with where you're at and what you have and not live in that spotlight effect and miss out on opportunity and miss out on good things and miss out on what God has for you in your life because you're so consumed with keeping up to the pattern of the world. It's a really exhausting thing to do.
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Yeah.
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I have a friend that was actually a model, and she was doing really well at modeling, lived in LA and all this. And she ended up starting a magazine called Darling, Darling Magazine. That was that. She did no touch ups, no retouching, no photoshopping on any of the photos because she was so bothered by the industry in. Because she was just like, here I am in this industry about beauty. But in, like, all the girls that are modeling are beautiful, but then they even touch them up and they refine them and they change. And she said one of the things that really struck her, she was like, I'm modeling in my 20s in ads where I'm portraying a mom to a teenager. And I'm like, there's no way I could be the model to a teenager. So mom. She's like, I felt bad because I. I'm like, moms are seeing this, thinking like, oh, this is what I'm supposed to look like as a mom to a teenager. When I. There's no. It's not impossible for me to be a mom to a teenager. Plus, they photoshopped me and made me even look better and more young and all the things, you know. So it is this unrealistic expectation. And I think that, like, we do have to realize that, like, we are being marketed to all the time. And it comes in, like, fashion, too. You know, I was thinking about, like, like the first time you see I saw Barrel jeans, I was like, ooh, I don't know about those. And all today, I'm wearing Barrel jeans. You know, it's like, the more you look at it, the more you look.
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The more you want it.
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The more you want it, the more.
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You kind of like, need it.
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Where you focus is also a biblical thing. It's like, where your treasure is, there your heart will be awesome once you focus on.
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I want to go to that.
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Put your time and attention.
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I want to go to that. Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. But I want to back it up, because this whole whole. This whole passage, Jesus is really speaking directly to this heart issue. And again, it's really cool because here we are in 2026 talking about something that seems very relevant to today. But if you look at the heart, Jesus really speaks to it all. And in Luke 12, verse 16, actually, I'm going to go up to verse 15. That's where he says it. And it says. And Jesus said to them, take care and be on your guard against all covetousness. Y'.
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All.
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All of it. All covetousness. So that might have looked different in the day than it looks today. Maybe whatever we're coveting is looking different than it did for them. But I want to read the definition.
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I know how much different it looked. You know, there are verses that talk about, like, don't let your beauty come from the outward appearance of, like, the wearing of gold and jewelry and pearls.
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And braided hair and all that kind of.
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And all that, which are the things. Things that we still, you know, have and do and all that.
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It says this about what that definition of covetousness means. It says having an intense, often greedy desire for things that belong to others, like wealth, possessions, or status. This is what I want all the ladies to pay attention to when it comes to beauty going beyond normal, wanting to an excessive or inordinate craving, often seen as a sin or moral failing rooted in discontentment and a lack of appreciation for what one has. So I thought that was, like, totally true. When it comes to beauty standards, this beyond normal wanting to an excessive craving. And I think that's really what it becomes. It can become this obsessive craving. Like, it's never enough. Like, I gotta do more. And I've seen so many friends fall to that, where I'm like, gosh, you're so beautiful. And they're like, well, I gotta do this. I do gotta do this. And this is badness. And I'm looking at them like, what?
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What?
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And I've done that too. Like, I've done Invisalign, like, three times. So expensive. Are you kidding me? And it's because, like, these teeth just can't stay straight. And everybody's like, your smile's so beautiful. And I'm like, oh, thank you. And I'm thinking like about this one thing. So I want to read this because Jesus goes into this parable about this land that a rich man has. But I want to read it in the message version. It's incredible both ways, but the message version is just a little bit more understandable and I feel like so relevant to us. So this is right after he says, you know, all covetous, don't, don't get into that. For life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. Then I'm going to the message version now for verse 16 and 19. It says, Then he told them this story. The farm of a certain rich man produced a terrific crop, okay? So this man has good crop, okay? He's killing it. He's a rich man. And he taught to himself and he said, what can I do? My barn isn't big enough for this harvest. So he said, here's what I'll do. I'll tear down my barns and build a bigger one. So again, it's like, he already has terrific crop, everything's good. But he's looking around, he's like, well, what else could I do? So then he starts doing more things with his abundance of what he already has. Then he says, I'll gather in all my grains and goods and I'll say to myself, self, you've done well, you've got it made and now you can retire. So he finally gets to this place of contentment after already having enough a little while ago. And he says, I'm going to take it easy. I'm going to have the time of my life. And it says in verse 20, just then God showed up and said, fool, tonight you die and your barn full of goods, who gets it? That's what happens when you fill your barn with self and not with God. I was like, wow, that's, that's so convicting. Cuz it's like, yes, here's this man, he's so rich, he has everything, it's terrific. And then he's like, well, what else could I do? What more could I do? Because he's just sitting there thinking about himself. So then he starts working on the thing, getting more and more and more. And then God shows up and he's like, you fool, right? You die like you're done. And what does this have to do with anyone? It doesn't live on to eternity. And that's why this morning I felt like the Lord kind of dropped this word in my spirit, that he did not create us to be Trendy. But he created us to live for eternity in the sense of like, we're, we're going somewhere. We're not meant to stay on one trend. We're not meant to keep going back to this one. Look, this one time of our life, this one image. No, we're meant to keep going. We're eternal beings. We're going to. From glory to glory to glory. We're going somewhere. And so it's like, don't get so stuck focusing on self that you're not focused on me. Because what is this going to do in the long run? This is, this doesn't mean anything for anyone. And now that you die. Yeah, you had a great barn. It looks good, but it didn't live on.
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You know, that makes me think about. That verse is like, fix your eyes on what is unseen. For what is unseen is eternal. What is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. And I mean, even if you think about this life, like, who gets to their old age and has been like, well, I look great. Nobody cares about that. Like, everyone cares about the relationship, relationships, the love, the, the people that they had in their life. Like, that's what becomes really important. Like, there is a point where no matter how young we try to look, we're all going to get old. Like, that is just nothing a filler.
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Can do for you.
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It's part of it. We're all going to get old.
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I've been watching these videos of 100 year olds and it's like advice they have. And now that I watch one, I, you know, get fed 100 and they're all so cute. But guess what? They all look old.
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Yeah.
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Every single one of them.
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Not one of them who like, yeah, there's nothing you can do. Which I guess there is some, like, I have seen some that like, I'm like, well, some people are doing something that make them look a lot younger. But it's only for a time. It is literally only for a time. And it's, it's fleeting and it's a continual process. I've actually just read a book called how to Live Forever. And it's not about what you think about like, it's more about like, what are the things that are meaningful and that matter like at the end of your life and generationally and everything. And it said the fountain of youth is not found where you think it's found. Where people like searching for the fountain of youth and like all the health and the, and the fillers and all those things. It's Actually found with youth. And it's just this whole point of, like, if you want to stay young and you want for your life to have meaning forever, invest it in young people. Be with young people and mentor them, help them. Don't be trying to, like, look like them are trying to be them.
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That's great. And that's what's the, the thing. Even with those 100 year olds that I love so much, it's not that they don't care about themselves. They do. They, they, they care about, they work out every day. Every single one of them is like, go on walks, ride your bike, like, stay active. But it's not for the purpose of them looking good. It's for the purpose of them being, being youthful so that they can be present. And that's why I love this verse in Ephesians 2, verse 10. And this is something that we just, in my opinion, we botched this. Like, think about plastic surgery, botched that show. Like sometimes we just botch it and we botch our appearance and you gotta fix it. And this is something that I think we botch is this verse because we just read the first part where it says, for we are his workmanship. Okay, stop there. So we are his masterpiece. How many times do you hear people say, like, you're God's masterpiece, you're God's masterpiece. I mean, I say that to my kids. I say it to myself like, we're God's masterpiece. To get a little pump up, a little boost confidence, all that kind of stuff. And that word is really beautiful because it's actually the word in Greek where we get the word like poem from. So it's like we are God's, like intentional, like it's beyond just writing. It's like intentional writing. Like, we are his craftsmanship. We are his masterpiece. Like, we are originally wonderfully, uniquely designed, uniquely written. It's not just like an accident that we are made the way we're made. We are knitted together in our mother's womb. Like, this is amazing. Okay, hi, ourselves up, comma. There's literally a comma there. Not even a period created in Christ Jesus for good works. And I love that it actually keeps going, which God prepared beforehand. Then we should walk in them. So it doesn't say, we are God's masterpiece. Uniquely, wonderfully designed. Amazing, beautiful. To go and show the world how stunning we are. Just to be beautiful and be in his image. No, we're created his master piece so that we can do the good works of Jesus Christ, which God prepared Beforehand that now we should walk in them. And so I love that. It's like you are a masterpiece. Not because. Not meant to just display the glory of God and your beauty, but to actually do the work of Christ. What's the work of Christ? To love God and to love people and so opposite of self centeredness, so good. Opposite of ego. Egocentru, whatever that word is. Opposite of going inward, it's outward. And that's why these 100 year olds are saying like, no, take care of yourself so that you can do good work, so that you can show up and be present like two mama rock star grandma.
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I was thinking about that my mom and my grandmother, you know, I just think we have such a good example of this and that my mom and grandmother are beautiful and people notice that. Like they see them on social media. They're like, oh, they're, they're so stunning. They're so beautiful. And they are. But when you know them, that's not what you are thinking about them. Like, because that's not what they talk about. That's not what they spend their time worrying about. That's. Yes, they, they care about their appearance and they want to look beautiful. And my mom, Joe always jokes, she's like, she's too vain at 94.
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Oh, it's hard to be vain at.
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94 because she does care about her parents and she wants to look nice and everything. But it's more about presenting herself nice for other people and taking care of herself and it. And you can tell when it flows out of that rather than out of like, I'm just spending a lot of time thinking about myself and I care about myself and I like talk about. I've never, I can't, I don't even remember ever for my mom or grandmother hearing them like talking about their appearance in a bad way or a positive way or anything. Like they just, it doesn't. They talk about.
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About it in a fun way.
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Yeah, in a fun way.
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Part of the fun of life.
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Yes.
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Like Mama Joe says, I get up and get ready every single morning. And you know, I started that it's Mama Joe Page, which was like so fun because it was showing her fashion. And you know, she, she doesn't really do it a lot anymore. I wish she would more because it's so fun. But she's like, I don't care about what I look like in the sense I'm getting ready because I'm like, oh, I have to look beautiful. She's like, I get ready because that puts purpose in my day and expectation in my day because I'm waking up saying I'm going to get ready just in case I'm a grandkid pops by and I'm ready to like, just like I'm ready for the day. And I love that, like starting something new is exciting, but it can also be pretty scary. Before I started low, I had all the what ifs, what if no one listens? What if I fail? What if I do all this work and it goes nowhere? And that's why having the right tools matter. And that's where Shopify comes in. Shopify is a commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world. From major names you already know and love to brands you're about to fall in love with. For us, low runs on Shopify and my team loves how easy it is to make online sales. From managing products to handling orders, everything just works the way you need it to. Shopify gives you tons of amazing templates to choose from. So building a beautiful online store to match your brand style is actually easy. Plus, with built in AI tools for marketing and selling, you keep everything in one place so you're not juggling a million platforms. And that iconic purple shop pay button helps turn more cards into actual sales. And lo online merch and my family's business Duck Commander are both power Power by Shopify. It's time to turn those what ifs into with Shopify today. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com Whoa. Go to shopify.com Whoa. Again that shopify.com Whoa. It's. It's showing up where you're at. I love one of my favorite pieces of advice someone gave on this show when I asked them their best piece of advice was Onika McClellan and she said, I don't want to be a here I am person. I want to be a there you are person. Yes. She says when and and I love it coming from her because she's so beautiful. She's super into fashion. I'm always asking her like for sending me like send me outfit ideas. I'm looking at her page to get outfit ideas. Like she is trendy and she is beautiful but she is totally a there you are person. When she walks in a room, although she looks very put together and you can tell she's on trend, it's not like you here I am.
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She's like there you are and it.
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Just makes you feel so loved. And that's such a good.
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I mean that's so true about like I Think that's a helpful thing for anybody who thinks about, like, having social anxiety and all that. It's like that thing where we talked about, if you go in thinking about yourself, thinking about, like, oh, okay, am I trendy enough? Do I look? Then you're. It's going to make you have anxiety, or does my skin look this? Or whatever, it's going to make you anxious. But if you go into a situation of, like, thinking about the other person, how do I make them feel the most welcome? How do I make them feel? Feel? Then you're not thinking about yourself, you're thinking about them. And that is really what we're called to do. You know, it's so true.
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It's so true. Gosh, we wrote so many things down and making sure that we hit all of our places that we wanted to go, all of our scriptures that we wanted to read. Did you have more?
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Well, I was thinking, obviously, Proverbs 31. The Proverbs 31, woman is where you kind of. I thought, okay, this is somewhere I should go. Because I remember they talked about, like, it talks about she wore purple, she's clothed in purple, and that kind of thing. So I thought, okay, what does this say about womanhood and about how we should feel about our appearance or whatever? And I'll just kind of like, maybe I'll just read the whole thing. Should I just read the whole thing? But I thought it was very interesting about basically how it ends. So Proverbs 31, starting at 10, an excellent wife who can find. She is far more precious than. Than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good and not harm all the days of her life. She seeks wool and flax and his works with willing hands. She is like the ships of the merchant. She brings her food from afar. She rises while it's not yet. While it is yet night, and provides food for her household and portions for her maidens. She considers, well, that's you're. You're waking while it is still.
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Still not like, I need 24 minutes. And I thought if I would have gotten up to him as early, that would have been really helpful for my whole family.
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So she considers a field and buys it with the fruit of her hands. She plants a vineyard. She dresses herself. Okay, here's some place where it talks about she dresses herself. She dresses herself with strength and makes her arms strong. Not about what she's wearing, it's about her strength in making arms. She perceives that her Merchandise is profitable. Her lamp does not go out at night. She puts her hands to the distaff and her hands hold the. The spindle. She opens her hand to the poor and reaches out her hands to the needy. She is not afraid of snow, for her household, for all her household are clothed in scarlet. She makes bed coverings for herself. Her clothing is fine linen and purple. So she. She. She's care. She's caring for herself. She's caring for her family. Her husband is known in the gates when he sits among the elders of the land. She makes linen garments and sells them. She delivers sashes to the merchants. Strength and dignity are her clothing.
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Oh, that's good.
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And she laughs at the time to come. She opens her mouth with wisdom and the teaching of kindness is on her tongue. She looks well to the ways of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness. Her children r. Rise up and call her blessed. Her husband also when he praises her. Many women have done excellently, but you surpass them all. Charm is deceitful and beauty is vain. But a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.
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Word.
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So when it does, finally, at the very end here. Oh, there's one more scripture. Give her the fruit of her hands and let her works praise her in the gates. That's the end. So it addresses this amazing woman, which it's kind of a combination, like, obviously, like, we cannot do all of that, but it's a combination of all these amazing things about a woman. Woman who fears the Lord, but it's not about her beauty.
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And when it addresses her beauty, it's directly tied to strength and fear of the Lord.
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Right.
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So to be strong for her family, to fear the Lord. Yeah. She presents herself like, respectfully, like the purple linen. And then she makes sure her children are clothed for the snow. So obviously like for necessity, you know, but not over idolizing that. What did it say about the idleness? I love that it said, oh yeah, and does not eat the bread of idleness. Like she. She's going for it. She's working hard. She doing all these things, but it's so much more than her appearance. I love that I'll read one more scripture and then we can close it out. And you know, the reason we go through all of this scripture and we're challenged in this is because we were kind of talking about this. Like, sometimes I think it's really what Dr. Amen said on a podcast podcast years ago, like, don't parent out of guilt, because guilty parents raise confused children and he's like, just because you wish you did something better doesn't mean that then you go and you, you know, operate out of guilt of what you've done. Like, no, make it right. Like, parent out of what you know to be the best and what you know to be true. And I think about David Christian. I were talking about this recently. Like, David, after he, you know, did what he did with Bathsheba and all that stuff, his life just kind of spiraled. And it seemed like he didn't parent out of, like, confidence what he knew to be true whenever he was following the Lord, but he parented kind of out of guilt of like, well, who am I to speak to this? Because look what I've done. That could be a misinterpretation. That's just what we were talking about and how often we do stuff like that. And so even before this conversation, I was thinking, man, there's so much I would love to say that, like, oh, I'm not living or I'm challenged by. And so hopefully, as you've listened to this, you've heard our authenticity in saying, like, I'm surprised how much scripture actually does address this. This morning, as we've been reading all these places, I'm like, oh, wow. Like, yeah, it actually says.
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It really does warn us.
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It warns us against those heart posture issues of perfectionism and self centeredness and all the different.
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I think caring about things that are fleeting.
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Fleeting.
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B
And I think that's one thing too, that, you know, we've talked about as. As like parents or. Or as just people. It's like what we spend our time. Time on, what we talk about, what we spend our mental thoughts on. That's what we care about the most. So it's like, it is kind of like a heart posture that you can. You can check for yourself and be like, okay, am I spending more time thinking about whatever the latest beauty trends or whatever's wrong with my skin or whatever than I am spending in the word or that I am spending with other people.
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A
Blessing.
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B
Exactly. Or am I making decisions based on my appearance rather than, oh, I can't go here, or Bella's birthday party, making decisions based on. Because of my appearance rather than based on that I can bless other people by being there or that I can do whatever? So it's really is kind of a. A check, I think, for us that we were talking about how it's like, what I'm showing other people, what I value, what I truly care about by these things about what I talk about. What I spend my time on, where I spend my money, what I do. And so it is something that for each of us, you have to, you have to look at that and consider.
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A
Yeah, again, where your treasure is, there your heart will be. Also in the same passage in Luke 12 where that verse comes from, verse 34 is the same little box of this title in my Bible. It says, do not be anxious. And I'm going to read it in the message version again because I, I love it, it's really relevant to today. But Luke 12, 25, 28 message version says this. Has anyone by fussing before the mirror, ever gotten taller by so much as an inch? If fussing can't even do that, then why fuss at all? Walk into the fields and look at the wildflowers. They don't fuss about their appearance, but have you ever seen color and design quite like that? The 10 best dressed men and women in the country look shabby alongside of them. If God gives such attention to the world, wildflowers, most of them that we will never even see, don't you think that he'll attend to you, take pride in you, do his best for you? And I love that so much because I love it how it says, like, what is the fuss going to do? You know, what is the complaint going to do? Again, like you said, the more you think about the self, the more miserable you're going to be. The more you think about the glory of God, the more positive you're going to be, the more excited about life you're going to be, the more you're going to see others around you again. If we're thinking about, we are God's masterpiece created to do good work for of Christ Jesus. That's to love God and to love people. And so that's our messy conversation about Botox fillers and filters.
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B
Filters. We didn't even talk about filters.
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A
Well, I put filters in there because it's the same thing of like, yeah, putting an image of yourself. But I think what filters more than even like, what we see at real time is they age fast. Because if you look back at filters, we like the Hipstamatic. I'm like, oh, it's so embarrassing. Like, that's so not trendy at all now. And it's like, okay, well think about that when you're putting a filler, it might not trend well 10 years from now, and it might have effects that you might not want. And so that's why I put filters in that.
- [59:25]
B
No, Well, I guess we did talk about filters because of like we talked about, even back in magazines they were doing filters or whatever. Yeah. And filters are weird to me because I'm like, you don't even look like yourself. No, I feel like a lot of times I'm filters.
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A
I'm like, it's actually weird.
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B
It's weird.
- [59:41]
A
But like at a time I like that. And now I'm like, oh, that's weird. Especially like when Facebook hits me with my like 10 years ago and I'm like sitting there and I have like dog ears and like a little like that was like the cutest thing on Snapchat. I'm like, what am I going to show honey? This what I look like in high school.
- [59:55]
B
What were we doing? What were we thinking? That's funny. One thing I've noticed this trend, okay, so it's a trend now to be like more natural. Like the like no makeup look. With the like no mascara, no makeup look. But the trap is now it's like, oh, but then your skin has to be perfect.
- [60:17]
A
Yeah.
- [60:18]
B
And so it's like, it's like, okay, we're going to more natural. But then it's like obsessing over. Obsessing over skin care and that has to be perfect. So it's like it's not a battle you can win. You know What I'm trying to say is this is like, like you can chase it and you could be like, okay, but then I'm going to do this or I'm going to have this look or I'm going. You're just going to chase. Yeah, you're chasing the wind. You're never going to win with it. And so I think that that in Luke that was saying that basically by worrying how can you can't even add. You can't take away one wrinkle about worrying about it. So.
- [60:54]
A
And no one should have it chip on their shoulder. Because again what we talked about with like always about the heart and it's always also about how like the righteous have a chip on their shoulder. And it's like if you're more natural, you can't have a chip on your shoulder. Cuz you probably have your own stuff that you're worried about thinking about. Like absolutely everybody has their thing.
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B
We're.
- [61:11]
A
We're bringing out the word so that we become more like Jesus. Not because we all got it figured out. Sam.