Finding Out We're Pregnant with Baby Number 3! | Sadie Robertson Huff | Korie Robertson & 2Mama

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Detailed Summary of "Finding Out We're Pregnant with Baby Number 3!" Episode of WHOA That's Good Podcast

Episode Title: Finding Out We're Pregnant with Baby Number 3! | Sadie Robertson Huff | Korie Robertson & 2Mama
Release Date: February 17, 2025
Host: Sadie Robertson Huff

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Introduction & Pregnancy Announcement

In this heartwarming episode of the "WHOA That's Good" podcast, host Sadie Robertson Huff shares the joyous news of her pregnancy with her audience. Joined by her mother, Korie Robertson, and grandmother, affectionately known as 2Mama, Sadie delves into the emotional journey of discovering and announcing the upcoming addition to their family.

Reactions to the News

Sadie recounts the unexpected way her pregnancy news was unintentionally spread by her daughter, Honey. She explains, “Honey started telling everybody that I had a baby in my tummy” ([04:10]). This led to a series of surprised reactions from friends who believed Sadie had announced her pregnancy earlier than planned. When Sadie finally shared the news directly with her mother, Korie was overwhelmed with joy, recalling, “I was shocked... and you fell on the floor” ([07:00]).

Insights on Lasting Relationships

The conversation transitions to a deep discussion about the foundations of enduring relationships. Sadie highlights the remarkable longevity of her parents' marriage—53 years—and her mother's marriage spanning 33 years. She asks, “What is the thing that initially made you fall in love with your spouse?” prompting Korie to share her parents' love story.

Korie reminisces, “I spotted this cute young man… we became friends” ([11:39]). The bonds formed at a Christian camp, shared values, and mutual respect laid the groundwork for a strong and enduring marriage. This long-term perspective underscores the importance of shared faith and values in maintaining a loving relationship.

Advice on Maintaining a Strong Marriage

Korie and her mother offer invaluable advice on sustaining a healthy marriage. They emphasize the importance of communication, mutual respect, and unwavering support. Korie states, “Faith has been the cornerstone of our marriage” ([58:26]), highlighting how a shared spiritual foundation can navigate couples through both joyous and challenging times.

Sadie echoes this sentiment, noting, “It's not like you're just trying not to get divorced” ([55:57]). Instead, she encourages active effort and intentional actions to nurture and grow love within a marriage. This proactive approach ensures that relationships remain vibrant and resilient over the years.

Handling Challenges in Marriage

Acknowledging that no marriage is without its challenges, Sadie and her guests discuss strategies for overcoming obstacles. Korie shares, “There’s hope that things will get better” ([41:53]), emphasizing the importance of maintaining optimism and patience during tough times. They discuss how minor irritations can be managed by focusing on the bigger picture and the enduring love that binds them together.

Sadie adds, “You learn to pick and choose what things are valuable enough to your relationship” ([33:26]), advising listeners to prioritize issues that genuinely impact the relationship while letting go of insignificant annoyances. This balanced approach fosters a harmonious and supportive partnership.

Importance of Faith in Marriage

Faith emerges as a central theme in maintaining a robust marriage. Korie elaborates, “God is so much a part of our life, and that pulled us always back together” ([58:57]). This spiritual connection not only strengthens their bond but also provides guidance and comfort during challenging times. Sadie concurs, highlighting how shared faith ensures a unified approach to life’s unpredictabilities.

The guests discuss how faith acts as a stabilizing force, helping couples stay committed and hopeful. This shared spiritual journey reinforces their dedication to each other and to overcoming life's hurdles together.

Maintaining Love Over the Years

The discussion also explores how love evolves and deepens over time. Sadie notes, “As you change, the love grows in different ways” ([52:57]). Korie and her mother share how continual growth, mutual support, and the ability to adapt to each other’s evolving needs contribute to sustained love and companionship.

They provide personal anecdotes about maintaining romance and connection, such as planning date nights and finding new shared interests. This ongoing effort ensures that the relationship remains dynamic and fulfilling, even as life circumstances change.

Closing Thoughts

As the episode draws to a close, Sadie reflects on the invaluable lessons learned from her family's enduring relationships. She emphasizes the importance of hope, faith, and continuous effort in nurturing a loving and lasting marriage. Korie and her mother offer heartfelt encouragement to listeners, assuring them that with dedication and mutual respect, enduring love is achievable.

Notable Quotes

• Sadie Robertson Huff: “Honey was like announcing it, and it was so convincing” ([04:10]).
• Korie Robertson: “There’s hope that things will get better” ([41:53]).
• Korie Robertson: “Faith has been the cornerstone of our marriage” ([58:26]).
• Sadie Robertson Huff: “It's not like you're just trying not to get divorced” ([55:57]).
• Korie Robertson: “God is so much a part of our life, and that pulled us always back together” ([58:57]).
• Sadie Robertson Huff: “As you change, the love grows in different ways” ([52:57]).

Conclusion

This episode of the "WHOA That's Good" podcast offers a profound and intimate look into Sadie Robertson Huff's family life, celebrating both the announcement of a new baby and the wisdom gleaned from enduring marriages. Through personal stories and heartfelt advice, listeners are inspired to cherish their relationships, maintain hope, and build strong, faith-centered partnerships that stand the test of time.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

That is true.

[A]

This one won't surprise me if it's so good because y'all are one. That's good, people. Uncle Psy is a questionable character, but they had a lot of good advice. I know y'all will, too, but before we get into that, I made a big announcement on social media last week that we're pregnant.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We're so excited. I know.

[B]

So exciting.

[A]

I guess it would be funny to share how I told the two of you because y'all were the best reactions.

[B]

I was shocked. I will say. I was shocked. Yeah. I had no idea. I had no idea which Honey had been saying that, you know, Know.

[A]

Well, we haven't even shared that anywhere.

[C]

Honey.

[A]

Yeah. I haven't even told that story. No. Like, Honey has been so. Back in October, Honey started telling everybody that I had a baby in my tummy. So much so that, like, we went into a coffee shop that's like our local coffee shop. Everyone goes there, and everyone that we knew was in there. And she was like, my mommy has a baby boy in her tummy. And I was like, what? And everyone's like, you do? And I'm like, no, no, I'm not pregnant. And it was so. Because it was so specific, it was like a boy. And it was. And I was like, three year olds.

[B]

Say things so, like, I totally just was like, oh, honey's just saying that. Did not think anything about it.

[A]

She wasn't just, like, saying it. She was, like, announcing it. And then she told Lydia, some of my best friends, she was like, my mommy has a baby boy in her tummy, but don't tell her I told you. Like, it was so convincing. So then all my friends thought I was pregnant, but just weren't asking me, but I wasn't pregnant at the time. And then she told another friend's mom that I was pregnant. Like, she told so many people. So all these people have been waiting on my announcement when I actually wasn't pregnant. And then later on actually did find out I was pregnant, which was such a shock, but great shock, but we were totally surprised. And so, you know, this season of our life has just been so crazy and so full with filming and all the things that come with that. And that wasn't necessarily our timeline or plan that we thought we were gonna have a baby. So I was just, like, totally overwhelmed and thinking, how am I gonna tell my family that I'm pregnant right now? I was mostly nervous to tell mom because, I mean, I knew you were gonna be so excited, but, like, I mean, the show has been so much.

[B]

Know how busy we all are right now and how busy you are right now. Yeah.

[A]

And whenever I found out, like, I knew I was gonna, like, you know. Cause you can track things. I was like, whoa, I'm due two weeks before Ello conference, which we'll talk about later. But, like, everything that's hitting me, like, well, this is the craziest timing. This is so insane. Oh, my gosh. How am I gonna tell everybody that I'm pregnant? Because they're gonna be so surprised. I'm so surprised. So waited a few days. We would film, like, every single day. I would see everybody, and I didn't.

[B]

You don't normally wait.

[A]

I don't wait a second. Like, when I found out I was pregnant with Haven, I FaceTimed my mom to tell her, and I was literally five minutes down the road, which I do regret. I wish I would have driven over to your house, but I couldn't even wait. And so then Bella's been making fun of me because it's like, I waited to tell you and mom, and then she's like, five days. I'm like, five days more than I thought I was going to wait. Like, I. I can't hold a secret like that because we were together every single day. And, like, I was just trying to act like my whole life was not about to totally change, Although it was totally changing. I just remember whenever I told you, I was super anxious because, like, life is so crazy right now. So tell you I'm pregnant, and you about fell on the floor. You're like, what?

[B]

I just about fell on the floor.

[A]

I was shocked.

[B]

I did not. I'm so excited. Obviously, I cannot believe you're about to be a mom of three and anytime a baby comes is the perfect time. But, yes, I had no idea you.

[A]

Helped me so much, though, because I was so nervous and felt so overwhelmed. And you kind of just need, like, one person to say to you, especially your mom, like, this is such great news. Like, this is amazing. You're going to be the best mom to three, and it's all going to be okay. And it's okay that it's at conference time. Like, it was, like, all the encouragement I needed. And I knew those things, but I just needed someone else to say it, too. And then when I told 2 mama, it was so funny because 2 mama was going with me to this little appointment we have for Haven, and I.

[C]

Had literally just told somebody. Somebody asked me, is Sadie going to have a baby soon? And I was like, no, they are waiting. I think she wants the girls to be, like, four and five before. Yeah, that even happened. So I just literally, like, the day before, told somebody. So that was just all in my head that I. I had done the right thing.

[A]

For the record, I had just told everybody that, like, a week before, Christian's parents were asking us about, like, when we're gonna have a third. And I was like, oh, we want to wait a few years. Like, we're gonna wait till they school and all this stuff, and I need my body to recover. And all this talk. Meanwhile, God's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll see about that. Good. Good story. And so anyways, I told 2 mama, I was like, hey, like, I need to film something for the show, so can you record this while I'm driving? And two, almost, like, record. We had to put this in the podcast. She's like, recording. And I'm like, oh, yeah. I said, two of them has no idea that I'm pregnant. And you're like, what? Hey, hey, we're going to Jackson Little girls day, but making sure Haven's all good. Cheers back there.

[C]

There's that little sweetie.

[B]

Hey, Haven't.

[A]

And two Mama's going with me because the boys are busy, and I figured this would be a really good time to tell 2 mama.

[B]

That I'm pregnant. What?

[C]

No, you're not.

[B]

Are you serious?

[A]

What? I.

[C]

No, I cannot. Am I supposed to be really taping this?

[A]

And it's so funny. She's like, total shocked.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

You're like, are we really supposed to be filming this for the show? And I was like, no.

[C]

Yeah. I was like, what are we doing?

[A]

That was so exciting.

[C]

I'm so confused. Yeah, it was so exciting. And I'm. You know how we are here. It's another one. We're excited. We love it. God's timing is the perfect timing. And when this baby comes, it's gonna be the perfect time.

[A]

Right. So how many great grandkids does this make?

[C]

Well, this will make. We've got one coming in June and then this one. And so that will be 12.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

So so far, like my grandkids, I've got seven boys and seven girls. I'm one of six. Three boys, three girls. I have right now five great grands and five boys and girls.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

And then the one coming in June is a boy.

[A]

Oh, man. So that would mean this would be a girl.

[C]

The pressure is on.

[A]

Okay, that is crazy. We're gonna be so excited either way. But that is interesting.

[C]

It's interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We do kind of even it all out.

[C]

We always.

[B]

Yeah, that's even.

[A]

That's crazy. Okay.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Three girls. But who knows? We'll see.

[B]

We did have three girls in one year. Holland the boys, Haven and Ella. Holland Haven. No. Holland Haven.

[A]

No, sorry. You're saying it wrong.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Holland Honey and Ella.

[B]

Yes. Holland Honey and Ella were all in one year.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So maybe this will be the boy year.

[A]

We'll see.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

This is so crazy. But we're so excited. Okay, so this episode is about relationships. And you guys both have some long lasting marriages to Mama, how long have you and Tupaba been married?

[C]

We've been married 53 years. I know. I would say that's a tip of.

[A]

Move, but yes, 53 years.

[C]

It's crazy to think about it. Really is.

[A]

Mom, what about y'all?

[B]

We are 33 years.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I haven't thought about that. We're exactly 20 years. That's how I can always remember mine. If I ask you yours.

[A]

Because I'm so bad about. She's really bad at.

[C]

She's bad about that.

[B]

I'm also bad about my age. I'm like, wait, am I 51 or 50?

[C]

I don't know which is a 20 year difference too, so I can do that too.

[A]

That's awesome. Okay, so I have some fun questions for y'all. Okay. What. What is the thing that initially made you fall in love with your spouse? You gotta think back 53 years.

[C]

I know I have to think back a long time, but it's really not that hard because I had started going to this Christian camp. Some of y'all are familiar with that Camp Chioga, because we talk about it a lot. So I'd started going to that camp, and I spotted this cute young man and his girlfriend. His girlfriend and his girlfriend and his girlfriend. Plot twist, my very first year. And I was like, okay, well, I guess our. I really don't ever have a chance with him because he's two years older, he's got a cute girlfriend and a good car, so that's probably it. So that was it. And back in those days, we didn't have any way to communicate. I mean, there was no Instagram, there was no Insta anything. So I did not go to camp the second year. But then the third year of camp, I went back the first year, he didn't notice me at all. Not at all. Short hair, braces, glasses, about as big as this microphone stand. And so he didn't notice me at all. So when I came back, the third year was a little bit older, had contacts, the braces were off. But he had.

[B]

Hair had grown out a little bit.

[C]

Hair had grown out. But he had a girlfriend.

[A]

Still the same girlfriend.

[C]

And I had a boyfriend.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

He had a different girlfriend, which seemed to be the story of his dating life. So. But we became. He noticed me, at least. We became friends that year. So he became part of my letter writing, you know, crew. That's what you did in those days. You wrote letters. So the next December 27th, I got. I went to a camp reunion. He was not dating anybody. I wasn't dating anybody. And so perfect. Yep, the stars aligned. But from the beginning, what I loved about him so much, he didn't live in the town I lived in. I had to go two hours to camp. But I knew that he was just a godly young man and he came from a good godly family. That was important to me. I dated a lot in high school. I know.

[A]

You really did.

[C]

I dated a lot.

[A]

He'd be like, I would have a different day each night of the weekend.

[C]

I did. I did. But I was like, testing the water at the time.

[A]

You could do that. Which I do think we should bring back.

[C]

Some of that I wish you could bring back. We could just go to the movie with somebody. And that's it.

[A]

Get to know them.

[C]

Just get to know them.

[B]

Right, Exactly.

[C]

So. But I knew from the ones that I'd been dating, they were all great guys. But what Johnny had was a love for God, a great family. He was super funny. Now, sometimes the things that you think are really funny when you're 18 or not that funny when you're 70, but he was super funny and just a great guy. So I just love being with him.

[A]

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[B]

Well, we met at the same summer camp. As a lot of people know, they know our story. But fourth grade, I saw him across the way and I remember thinking he was really cute. Even that young, he had these great dimples.

[C]

He was.

[B]

He didn't have a beard.

[A]

Yeah, dimple reference, right?

[B]

Dimples and smile. Yeah, it's actually, you can see exactly my. Pretty much your face. Yeah, in a boy form. He was so cute. And he, he was funny. Even then, even as like a fourth grader, he was funny. And then a few years later, he actually came, started coming to our youth group. They went to like the little country church and we went to the city church in Westmore, Louisiana. But anyway, he started coming to our church and kind of joined the youth group. And he was so cute and so fun and funny and just on fire for the lord. I mean, when he and Jace joined our youth group, it just became dynamic. People started coming, and it was exciting and fun because they were always sharing the gospel with people and inviting people. So he had this, like, charisma that drew people to him.

[C]

And it was at our house.

[B]

Right. The youth group was at our house every Sunday night.

[C]

So he was there with, I mean, literally 100 kids. Wow.

[A]

You were the youth leader there?

[C]

I was one of the. One of the youth leader helpers, you know, volunteers at that time. And so every Sunday night, they were at our house. And we just thought he was the funniest, cutest thing and. Yeah. Love the Lord.

[A]

And you didn't really. Y'all didn't date from fourth grade on?

[B]

No, no, no. So we kind of liked each other off and on through high school. Different to our middle school, even in high school. But it just never. The stars did not align. Yes. He dated all my friends, and we went to different times.

[A]

Not only did he date all your friends, he told you, as his youth leader, he was going to marry all my friends.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[C]

Everybody he dated, he would say, I'm going to marry that one.

[B]

Willie's like, who goes? He goes all in on anything. A sport, a game, a relationship.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

Whatever it is.

[A]

Point out, like, if you think out there that you dug too deep of a hole. You can't dig too deep of a hole. As to telling your future mother in law that you're gonna marry every single one of your future.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Friends.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's pretty much dug a pretty deep.

[B]

Hole to climb out of. So he's very passionate.

[C]

He had those dimples. He was so cute.

[B]

He was so cute. He'd win you back over. Y. There was a point where he asked me out and I said no because he had dated one of my friends, and I didn't think he treated her very well. And so I was mad at him. And he sent someone to ask me. He didn't ask me directly. He sent someone to ask me if I would go on a date, and I just said no. And he says he remembers this guy, a friend of ours, his name was Jimmy. Jimmy goes back to him, and he said, what'd you say? And Jimmy says, she said no. And he was like, just like no. He just said no because, well, he was.

[A]

He, you know, the girls didn't tell him no.

[B]

Exactly. So I Think that that left a mark. So then I actually was the one who called him when we started dating, because I had rejected him, you know, a couple years before. And then we had both dated other people, and we saw each other at the mall. This so dates us. This is so funny. We saw each other at the mall and looked across the way, and I had heard that he had broken up with his girlfriend, and I had just broken up with my. And I just broken up, too. And so we kind of see each other across the mall, and we're like, Nelson. It was just sweet. We both remember, like, that meeting. And so I called him because I had rejected him a few years before, so I knew I had to make the first move. And he called me back, and, yeah, the rest is history.

[A]

That's so sweet. So what was it that made you start to fall in love with him when y'all started dating?

[B]

When we actually started dating, I think, you know, we were friends. That was a really special part. We were very young. We were 18 and 19, but we had known each other since fourth grade. So we were friends. We loved each other's company. We loved being together. We laughed a lot. And I think I knew that life with him would never be boring. And I thought it would be a fun adventure.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

Yes. And knew it would be a fun adventure. And, yeah, he was, like I said, he was on fire for the Lord. I knew that. I think our families, when you look at them from the outside, were so different. Very, like, looked very different from the outside. But the core values were the same of faith, family, love for family, love to be around each other, in each other's families, and generosity, hospitality, all of those, like, core things that are really important. I knew we're the same.

[C]

I think it's funny how our stories are similar in that, you know, she kept seeing Willie because we called him Jess at the time, but it wasn't the right time. Wasn't the right time. And same for me with Chupapa, you know, I was like, well, he's got a girlfriend. He's got a girlfriend. But yet we married them at 18. So the Lord was like, you're not gonna meet them any sooner than this.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That would have been, too. I think that's such an interesting point of y'all's story, because I think that that's the truth for most people's story. Like, it has to be the right timing. I mean, Christian and I, like, Bella, met two years before I met Christian, but It would not have been the right time for me to meet Christian. And, like, when we look back at our timeline, we were in the same place at the same time, a couple of different times and never met. But, like, it wouldn't have been the right time. But I think. And I didn't even know that. Like, I didn't know we were in the same place. I didn't know of him, so I didn't have, like, the urge to expedite the process or, like, rush the process.

[C]

You weren't stalking me Like, I was.

[A]

Stalking him, but also. But, like, you were, like, stalking, but not really. Stalking is different than stalking. Stalking's like, oh, he's cute. He has a girlfriend.

[C]

Yeah. Stalking then was looking around a tree talking.

[A]

Now is a way of a thing.

[B]

That is such a good point.

[A]

Ain't nobody looking around a tree. Okay. We're looking at every post you ever made from the past four years and who tagged you in it. When I say I called.

[B]

When I say I called him, it's like the home phone where his roommate took a. Took my number down on a piece of paper to give him to call me back.

[A]

That's, like, such a good time. But I think that's really cool because you didn't have the resources to control it or manipulate it or rush it. And I think that, like, if we didn't have the resources to do that, like texting and Instagram messaging and Snapchatting, like, we might just be a little bit more patient with God's timing in our life. And so, obviously, you're not going to take away Instagram and Snapchat and texting, but, like, let it be a lesson to you that if it's God's timing, like, rest in that and wait for that. Because I think people do a lot of damage in trying to manipulate.

[C]

Trying to speed up the process, too, because you can speed up the process so much. I mean, there's something so different about getting a letter from somebody that you think you love and being able to process that letter and write them back with a thoughtful.

[A]

Than the quick Instagram, like, intentionality.

[C]

So it's. Yeah, it is. It's a whole different. A whole different world.

[A]

Yeah. So maybe we can bring back some of that. Okay, question. Do you. I wrote this down. Like, are the things you love about your spouse now still the same as what you originally fell in love with? Or. I know it's changed, obviously, since 53 years. Do you still see those same things in them now? And what has grown? Like, what about your love for them has grown in specific ways.

[C]

Well, I think you still. I hope that you still see the same things that drew you to whoever you're married to. I certainly do it, too, Papa, because he's still crazy and silly and funny and will literally do anything. And I am so the opposite of that. Like, I don't do silly, crazy things and embarrass myself in front of everybody. And he will literally embarrass himself in front of an entire movie theater.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

So all of those things are still there, but then you gain so much more because then you see them as dads and grandfathers, and I'll cry if I say too much, but, you know, then you begin to see who they really are on the inside, not that outside. Like, he was super cute. I know y'all might not believe that.

[B]

But he's so cute.

[C]

He was super cute and super funny. But beyond that, he then was a good worker and took care of us and loved the kids and, you know, all those things.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So your list. You have a list still of good things and bad things about anybody in your life. And you have to be careful not to let the bad list grow longer than the other one because you can nitpick little things, but it's all those other things that, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's really good to watch for.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

That's so good. Yeah. I would say yes. I mean, he's still funny. He's still. Life's never boring with him. He's still really passionate. He goes all in with what he does. He loves the Lord and loves to share the gospel with people. So all those things. Another thing I was thinking of when you said that this image came to mind of him making me an omelette before school. This is my senior year when we started dating, and he would. He make, like, really? He cooked for. He cooked even then. And so he would make an omelette for me, and I would go over there before school, which I didn't get up early for anybody or anything. Mom can attest. So the fact that I would wake up early to go over there to eat his omelets, you know, and he still, you know, makes me omelets, or I'll be sitting in the morning reading, doing my Bible reading, writing in my journal, and he's like, do you want an omelet? Or, you know, do you want me to make you a breakfast sandwich? Or. If he doesn't offer, I'm like, you thinking about making a breakfast sandwich? He's like, sure. And every time he's like, yeah, I'll do it, he's always ready to make me a sandwich or an omelet or feed me in some way, take care of me in some way. So he's still all those things are still the same. And then like mom said, things grow, things you don't know or you don't see. And also things. There's a lot of ways that he's changed and grown in really good ways, like refined. Just like I've grown and changed and there's things about me that have refined, that God's refined in me. I think that, you know, sometimes we talk about people don't change and there's an aspect of who you are as your personality and those traits. But there are things that God really does change in your life. And those are things that are like, that are the fruits of the spirit and those are the things that can change and grow. And really, you know, it's amazing how.

[A]

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[C]

A lot of ick. It's definitely a trendy thing.

[A]

It's like, what is something that your spouse does that's immediately just an ick? Like, Bella would say her ick about dad is his Tim Tebow T shirt. No offense, Tim Tebow, but it is bad. It's not a good look on him. It's, like, turquoise tight, and it's from.

[B]

A Tim Tebow golf tournament, and Jockey sponsored it. And so it's turquoise T shirt, and it says, show them what's underneath. And it's like a logo for Jockey underwear. And it's. It's.

[A]

It's his sober shirt.

[B]

He wears it. He slept in it last night. He had it on this morning. He wears it all the time. I actually washed it one time, and it got, like, wadded up and, like, stretched. And I was like, oh, sorry. I think I messed it up. And he was like, oh, no, I think it's still fine. And he saved it, and it's worse.

[A]

Yeah, that would be an ick. What. What's something that is just funny that you're like, oh, yeah, that's an ick.

[C]

That is. Man, that is a hard one.

[B]

I can go because. Bella, you go. We've talked. We've had this conversation, so. I know because at first, I. What would that be? I don't know. What is it? And then I was like, dad's travel habits. Your poor travel habits.

[A]

That's an egg, for sure.

[B]

He carries, like, so many. Like, one. His backpack weighs a ton because he never cleans it out. It's just ridiculous. It's like, so much stuff is just, like, spilling out of it. Then he carries, like, three different cups. I was gonna say, plus a coffee.

[A]

Like, so much cups.

[B]

Yeah, like, three different, like, travel cups.

[C]

That's hilarious.

[B]

Then a coffee and then, like, tea under his other arm. So it's just like he's walking through airport. It's just so jumbled and disheveled.

[A]

Not to mention he always has his pants, like, sweatpants, like a Delta blanket, as, like, a scarf.

[C]

Sometimes it's just one leg.

[A]

Yeah, it's that one leg with his Show Missouri T shirt. And he's stretching in public.

[B]

Yes. That is his public. Yes. And I'm like, you know, like, they're, like. They're nicer like, backpacks and, like, their things. I actually bought him for Chris a little, like, cup holder thing that you could put on your, like, rolling cart to. Maybe it'll get better. But anyway. And he leaves things everywhere. He just left yesterday. He was flying to Nashville and was like, will sent me a video of him because running back to the car because he left his clothes in the car.

[A]

Left his whole bag.

[B]

He left his bag.

[A]

Christian was like, how do you do that? How do you leave your bag? Like, you're not. He checked in, got on the flight, and realized he left his whole bag.

[B]

He had to run out of security and get back in. It's like, some things don't. That is exactly how he was.

[A]

That's a good one, too. Did you think it was?

[C]

I mean, this is, like, hard for me because it's been a lot of years, but I guess I'm just going to say, like, he has no fashion sense and doesn't care at all, that he doesn't have any at all. Now, when we were dating, he was, like, the coolest guy in town with the leather jacket with the fringes. And, like, he wore that hippie be years.

[A]

But after that, he never found himself after that.

[C]

Never found himself after that. And so he just really doesn't care at all. And I'll try to, like, help him. And I've given up pretty much.

[A]

Well, it is funny because you're so fashionable and so like, you'll look like incredible. And he comes in his, his Hawaiian cargo, whatever shorts, his little like shoes.

[C]

And no socks and just some kind of shoes that he slips on with those horrible toes. I mean, it's like, yes, that's a good end. Those are the things that you have to just like, you just have to love them in spite of themselves.

[B]

Because he has a Hawaiian start with mom's face all over it that he loves. And it embarrasses mom every time he wears it.

[C]

And I never know when he's going to wear it because I'm not with him. Then he comes to some event with this shirt with my face all over it. I'm like, what?

[A]

That is so funny. Okay, this is an interesting question. Does stuff about your spouse bother you more now or less now, over the years? Like, because I feel like for me, even just five years in, I don't get like as annoyed about things as I did at the beginning. Yeah, it just doesn't bother me. Yeah, but I mean, I have five years compared to 50 years. What does that look like?

[C]

I think that's the same. I mean, I think things change. You're like, okay, that doesn't bother me anymore. But I've got something new.

[A]

There's always a new thing.

[C]

There'll be something else. But you know, I do think as the years go on, you learn to pick and choose what things are valuable enough to your relationship that you, one, they bother you. And two, you say something about it that they can't. They're not going to change. It's just going to be an annoying thing. So you finally just say, that's not worth it.

[B]

Yeah, I would say Willie's style. Like, he has his own style and I just have to not care because.

[C]

Like, she's always had a good style style. He's not a two papa style.

[B]

Well, sometimes he goes through phases.

[A]

Don't know when he like, has to go somewhere publicly.

[B]

That's true. Yes, he does.

[A]

He does not have a good day to day style.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Well, that's.

[B]

And you just don't know, like, he can just choose whatever. I mean, he went through this phase where he like, got some like, old clothes from. From some man who like, passed away. His wife gave him all his old clothes and he just loved them, like, polyester pants and shirts and everything. And I'm just like, just let him be. You know, that's just his. His thing. He wants to do it. It's just funny and fun, and I don't care. So, yeah. Style. And also, like, Willie does not like to be controlled. So if you try. If I tried to pick his outfit or, like, then he would purposely wear the opposite, because I. He would feel controlled by me. So that is like, yeah. Something you just kind of have to give up.

[A]

That is so true.

[B]

Another thing he does do that used to drive me crazy, and now I'm just like, you know, I just. It does. Doesn't take me time. He leaves every cabinet door open.

[A]

I knew you were going to say every cabinet.

[B]

Like, when he cooks, which he does all the time, which is amazing. Every cabinet door is open. His bathroom, we have these, like, you know, like a. Like a mirror that all the things behind we call, like, a medicine cabinet mirror. He just leaves it up. You know, he just does not ever close a cabinet or a door. But it's one of those things that I'm like, okay. It takes me, you know, just a few seconds to just come behind him and close them. So used to. I would kind of, like, be like, hey, you know, try to get him to close up. No, I just.

[A]

I feel like. That's a good one. That's a good one. Because I do remember they annoyed you for so long, and then you're like, okay, I'll just do it. Like, you have to. Just some things, you just have to be like, okay, that's not gonna happen. I'll just do it. It's okay. That's good. So y'all mentioned how there will be, like, seasons of things. Like, okay, this bothered me for a while. Then it doesn't. Or this outfit was terrible. Then he got off that kick. Like. Like, there's just, like.

[C]

I found a picture the other day, and Johnny had a shirt on that he was wearing recently. And I said, look, this is 23 years ago. You're like, you have on the same shirt.

[B]

Might be the time.

[A]

That's the time.

[C]

It is time.

[A]

Some things make it longer than others. Some things are little waves. Some things are tidal waves. But, like, okay. Talking about just going through hard times in life, you know how people are always saying it's. And it's biblical, like, don't let the sun go down when you're angry. And I feel like whenever you first get married, it's, like, very literal. You're Like, I cannot go to bed anyway. We have to resolve everything. Like, you have to, which is a really good thing. But then, like, over time, like, there are certain things or problems or things you're walking through in your marriage. It's like, it can't be resolved in a day. Like, it's gonna take time. Can you speak to just times of your life where, like a season lasted a year, years, like, how do you walk through that? And like, still being in love with your spouse, like, pursuing your spouse, but like, going through a time that's just really hard and knowing time is what it's going to take until you get to a better place. Like, what does that look like?

[C]

I think you pretty much kind of said it with all that, because there are times you marry, especially for somebody who's married 53 years that there were, like, if you say, don't go down, don't go to bed, you would have been up for days, you know, never gone to sleep. Because you can't solve some things that quickly. But you can still go to bed with a resolution that we love each other. Nobody's going anywhere. We've got these kids we're raising tomorrow. We'll figure that out. You can always do that. I think where people get in trouble is when they don't say that. They say, I don't know if we can work this out. Divorce is on the table. Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow. You know, so, yes, there's going to be some seasons that there's some issue that y'all are just not figuring out and it's not gonna happen overnight. But you can still say, but we will figure it out.

[A]

Yeah, that's good.

[C]

We are resolved to figure it out.

[A]

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[B]

I think that's it. I think the word hope to me is like so important in any relationship. It's like, there's hope that things will get better and things will. And whether God's working on you or whether working on him or working on y'all together, that just that hope that like, okay, things are going to get better at some point, whenever in a marriage or a relationship or anything, when you lose hope and you're like, this is never going to change. And I just think that is. I always tell this story. I've told it on your thing before about being in a therapist's office and saying. I kind of said it offhandedly. I'm like, oh, it feels hopeless. And she just stopped me. She was like, no, like, you serve a God of hope. Nothing is hopeless. And so I do think that, like, some people can get. When you get trapped in that, where you're just like, oh, this is it. This is all this marriage is ever going to be. He's never going to change. I'm never going to, like, we're never going to be in love again or we're never going to feel this way again. That is. That's the beginning of the end, you know? So if you can just say, like, nope, like, this is not how it's meant to be. Like my marriage, God wants me to be in a great marriage and I can be in a great marriage with this person. Like this. It's not that I. That this is perfect right now. It's not that. But it's that, like, yes, God wants us to have a great marriage, and, yes, that can happen. It doesn't look like it right now. It doesn't feel like it right now. I don't know how. I don't have any idea how this is gonna be, but I have hope that it can be because I believe in the promises of God. I've made a commitment to this person, and all the reasons why I need to stay in this are there. And then God just miraculously works it out. I mean, literally, it really. It is that way. I mean, yes, there's hard. There's steps you have to take, go to get counseling, talk, you know, do the hard thing. Do all the things that you need to do. Talk about, negotiate with your spouse. Like, work on those things. Work on yourself. There's. There's work to do, like, of your own work. But also, I just know in my life, I've looked up and been like, wait a second. That actually just got resolved, you know? And you're like, it's not like it used to be there.

[C]

This.

[B]

This. This has gotten better. Or somehow I've. This doesn't really seem like a big deal anymore. Or I was like, wow, he's actually changed that. Or I actually changed that about myself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it does happen. But you. You have to give it time, and you can't give up, and you can't give up hope.

[A]

That's really good. I love. I love what both of y'all said, and I think it's really cool thinking about, like, the heart posture you take, like, not losing hope, going to bed. And like, yeah, you might. Might have problems. Yes, you might have things you need to resolve, things that are going to take time, but going to bed with respect for your partner, Going to bed with, like, a love. Or, you know, because I love how that verse is, like, don't go to bed angry at the believer. And it's like, that's a heart posture you're taking. So it's like, yeah, you might be angry about circumstances. You might be mad about what's happened. You might know that you need. But, like, making your heart posture. I'm going to choose hope. I'm going to choose to say that we're going to work this out. And it's really cool to hear you say, like, man, there are some times where it's like, you're surprised you made it through it. You're like, whoa, okay, like, glad you're doing it. Like, we're walking through it. Because that just shows that, like, yeah, Times can get really hard.

[B]

I was just thinking about that. You talked about that literal, don't let the sun go down. Like, if you think about that figuratively of, like, the sun going down on your anger is like this. Like, I put it to. I put it here, and, like, I'm just angry, you know, like, if you. If you don't take it as literally, like, there's another way you can look at it. It's like God's saying, like, hey, don't just stay angry, you know, like, know that there's going to be a new day and a new. A new way to. To look at things.

[A]

That's really good. Yeah. One thing you said, too, Mama, that I've heard you and your sister Joaniel say, like, all of our life, is that, like, divorce is not an option. Like, don't put divorce on the table. So that, like, it's interesting just because the friends I have, you know, friends who are so young and we're all walking through marriage and helping each other out, and that hasn't really been a thing for us. But then outside of our friend group, just people our same age. I've just heard that thrown out a lot. And I'm like, man, like, that's so sad, you know? Like, it's so sad that these words are already being thrown out. And I've just been like, man, that would be so hard because we've gone through hard times, but that hasn't been, like, a word that hasn't been an op. That hasn't been on the table. And I think, like, you guys have always told us, like, don't put it on the table. You know, what is it? Like, have there been times where y'all have felt like divorce would have been a lot easier? Felt a lot easier, but we stuck through it. Like, what does it look like to not let divorce be an option, but go through really hard times where it feels like divorce is the option, is what I'm saying?

[C]

I don't know if I would say there were times that I thought divorce would have been easier, but there were definitely times when my kids were little and my husband had chip. Papa had a very demanding job. Like, he. There was no eight hours. It was 12, 12, 13 hours. And I had three little kids. There were plenty of times that in my brain, I'm like, wait, I'm a single mom, but I'm married, You know, but so those kind of things can go through your brain. And what you have to do is quit saying that. You know, it's what we say to ourselves. Because I could do that. I. At night, I could be like, at 7:00 at night, I've given everybody a bath. I've taken everybody to gymnastics. I've done all the things. We've done school, done homework. And then Johnny walks in and it would have been in. And probably on some days I was angry about that. Oh, you've got to be at an office all day and. And, you know, had grownups around you and had adult conversation. But I watched a lot of my friends do this. And you go down that path too many days, then you're going to put divorce on the table because divorce seems easier than what you're doing now. I've never really seen a divorce that's been easier than that. It's always hard. Life is hard at its best. It's just hard. And so you're trading one problem for lots of other problems. Perhaps. But if you. I love how Corey was saying it. You. You've got God at the center of your marriage and you just keep clinging to that and every day will get better or different or some other problem will take over from. You know, we had these little issues then Donnie had colon cancer. Well, everything else kind of took a back seat because now we're dealing with stage four colon cancer. So when things like that hit you in the face, then like, okay, that little annoying thing that he does about telling me every little thing that he reads in the newspaper, you know, which is annoying and still does that, and still does that and Googles everything. Okay, maybe that's not so bad because God's seeing us through colon cancer. Cancer.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So sometimes I think it's just we need to have a talk with ourselves and say, stop this. You know, this is, this is life. This is reality. Everybody's got problems. Nobody's marriage is any better. I mean, there may be better connections, I don't know. But everybody's dealing with the same kind of thing. So, yeah, tell yourself, you know, I gotta, I gotta snap out of it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. You know, really good.

[C]

That's kind of an old term from the 50s when your daddy would walk by and you're kind of pouting. He'd say, snap out of it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

People might need to hear that. Revive the. Snap out of it. It's really good. Well, I think that's been really helpful, like having a friend group. Like I mentioned, like, we have a friend group, but we talk openly. But one of the things I really love about our friend group is everyone's so respectful of their spouse. Like, you share, yes. Things that you want to grow in more personally or maybe some things you need prayer for. But it's like respecting your marriage too. And I feel like that's what I mean when I said I've heard, heard people outside of that have conversations and I'm like, man, like you're on a spiral. Like, if you're talking like that, you are like, divorce is on the table. Like, I love how you said you, you spend a few more days like that and you get to those places. So snap out of it. It's really good advice. Yeah. If you're like me, then you love learning new things. This year, let Audible expand your horizon with their selection of over 1 million audiobooks, podcasts, Audible, Orig and more. Whatever your interests are, Audible has a listen just for you. Open up the app and tap into your well being with advice and insights from leading experts and influencers. You'll find titles on things like personal fitness, nutrition and relaxation. If you're looking for ways to improve your personal or work relationship, start a new career, make better financial decisions, or invest in your future, Audible has got your back on all of those things too. I'm actually listening to an audiobook right now called the Happiest man on Earth and it has been impacting me so much. Every time I get in my car, I'm listening. Whenever I have any second to myself at the house, I'm listening. I am just absolutely obsessed with the story. It is so sad, but so powerful and so inspiring. I love a good listen. So let Audible help you reach your goals that you set for yourself this year. Start listening today when you sign up for a free 30 day trial. Audible.com Whoa. That's audible a u d I b l e dot com Whoa.

[B]

I think that's something that you did a good job of like teaching us as we were growing up and I hope that I taught y'all too is like you are in control of your thoughts and your, and, and the, the loops that your brain get is like you can stop those loops and you can change your patterns of, of thoughts and whenever you get in that with your, if you, if you allow yourself to get in that with your spouse of like a loop of all the things wrong and all the things then you know, you can go down a road and spiral and like you said, get on the crazy train or whatever. But one of the things that I always find is helpful is remembering your story, you know, and I think it's biblical. You see like the Israelites constantly, like forgetting what God brought them through, Forgetting the miracles, forgetting all the things. And that's something that we can do really easily. But remembering why you fell in love, telling that story to your kids, remembering the things that God has brought you through already in your marriage, remembering those special moments of when you had your babies, you know, and talking about those good things and those good memories can get you out that spiral of, oh, he's not doing this or this or that or that, you know, and just look at it as a long haul, you know. Another thing, Mom, I remember. I remember very specifically you telling me about some of your friends who were a couple friends who you said talked about divorce at one point, and then they made it through. And then they're like the happiest married empty nesters there are. You know, it's like. But they just had to make it through that hard time. And there was a time when they were like, as soon as these kids get out of the house, we're getting divorced. Because they didn't think they were going to make it. And then after the kids got out of the house, they're like, oh, some of our problems got solved miraculously. And now we're still together. And I remember you telling me that and thinking like, oh, I. I gotta look at this as the long haul. What do I want in the future? Do I want Willie and I to be sitting together, love, playing with our grandbabies? Do I want us to be able to, you know, have a life together forever? You know? And so is it worth whatever this momentary thing that I'm going through so that I can have what I want in the long, long haul? And absolutely, every time, you know, really good.

[A]

I love it.

[C]

I think if you're out there listening to us talk today and you have. You've been divorced and you're dealing with this, I think there's ways that you can make that work too. By putting your kids first and being strong, strong leaders in your family. And be kind to each other and speak kindness over each other and all those kind of things. So it can be done. So we're not saying this is the only way to raise great kids, but certainly this is the way God intends it to be. If we step outside of that, God's still there for us and he's still gonna help us make it through.

[A]

It's really good. I saw someone recently and it was their anniversary and they had hit a lot of years. It was close to y'all. I won't say the amount. Cause I Don't wanna. I don't wanna narrow it to their story, but whenever I said, happy anniversary, thank you so much. I said, how do you do it? How do you make it that many years? And they said, just don't get divorced every day. Just make that decision. And I was like. It was kind of sad because I was like, that's a sad way to look at marriage. Like, every day, just trying not to get divorced. It's like, do you love each other? Is there anything more positive you wanna share? Like, okay, you is just kind of negative. And they're probably just joking, but. But there's no, like, positive like them. And we raised this amazing family. And also, so I want to ask y'all, 53 years, in 33 years in, like, is it possible to continue to fall in love and like, it still be sweet? Like, you hold hands. You. Not that it's like movie, but it's like you're actually in love. Like, you enjoy your spells.

[C]

Oh, I definitely think that's. I think that's entirely possible. And even more so after the kids are gone. Yeah. If you can get. Probably. And I know those of you who have little kids, it just seems like eternity. Every day is like an eternity. But it does go by so fast. And you have to think about telling John Luke this the other day. You have to think how many years you have after that. It's a long time if you get to live a long time. Yeah. I mean, Corey got married when I was 38. That was really young. And so my last one got married when I was 42. So from 42 on, my kids were already married. That's crazy. And that's really young. So, you know you're going to have a long time. And that's why we say, cherish the times when they're little. Have your date nights, stay interested in the person, get to know them. It's so hard to not let everything be a focus on the kids. But you cannot let the kids be your total focus on your life. You just cannot. Now when they're toddlers, you have to, because if you're not watching them, they'll die. But beyond that, beyond that, you have to take care of your relationship because they are gonna grow up and leave you as much as you don't want them to. When they get older, you're like, don't leave me. But they do. And then you have all those years left. So, yes, you've got more time to fall more in love with that person.

[B]

Absolutely. And there's things that you do that you didn't do before. Recently, dad and I have been more on getting to bed and watching a movie or watching a show together. And I mean, for a lot of years, we haven't done that. He liked his shows and I'd read or I'd get in bed and watch my show or whatever. And now we're starting to find shows together. And it's like we get excited. It's like, oh, wait, is it 8:30? Should we go? Because we're old. We're like old people all of a sudden. And we never did that before. I mean, we used to always be up till midnight. We were or we would doing other things or whatever. And now, like, literally, like, we're like, okay, is it time?

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

Let's go watch our show together. And so, like, there's always new things you're going to find. I mean, that's something really little. But you'll. You'll find as you do together that you're like, oh, that's something like a long time ago that I might have wished we had done together because I'd be like, oh, he won't come to bed when I want to go to bed, or whatever. But I was like, whatever. That's how we did it. And then all of a sudden, like, we're doing that and like, oh, that's so that's.

[C]

We do that too now, which we never did because Tupac never left his desk. He worked all the time. And now we find something on Netflix. We can't wait to go in and watch. We share that sometimes y'all are watching it. We'll all share what we're. What we're watching. And so, yes, I mean, there's going to be new things that come up. They change, you change.

[A]

It really is so interesting because, like, the other day, Christian and I were doing a, like, relationship Q A and someone said, like, what does a date night look like for y'all? And I looked at Christian said, it's been a minute. We were like, laughing because we were like, oh, gosh, it has been a long time. But then we were like, but that's just where we're at. Like, we have a three year old and a one year old and we're filming. And like, our nights are really important to be with the kids because I'm working and like, then the weekends, we don't want to do anything because we're with the kids. Like, so we haven't done that often. But I was like, but we go to lunch together when we can during the day. And that's been, like, really sweet for us. But then because of the nature of your work with him, life is right now. But I'm with him all the time, which has been really sweet. And so we were, like, talking about that, and then I was thinking about how, like, you and Tupac would go on, like, so many dates and, like, Shereen Chandler right now, like, you know, they are empty nesters. Like, they're going all these dates and like, you and dad, like, spend so much time together, but, like, y'all are filming and y'all are in a crazy time and it's like. And dad cooks for you a lot and y'all have, like your at home dates, which is really sweet. But it's like everybody's life just looks different and seasons look different. And so it's cool that, like, now y'all show is Yalls thing. And like, for me and Christian, like, we try to go to lunches, like, you do have to kind of just adapt with the times and where you're at.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And not compare it to another season or another person, because it's just different, you know? But this has been, like, such a fun conversation. I honestly feel like everybody's gonna wish we had another hour. And I kind of do too, because it's just been so fun to hear, like, just the beauty of yalls stories and all the good advice, but also, like, the honesty about the hard stuff. The last thing I want to ask y'all, though, is a lot of people ask me in, like, DMS or question boxes. Like, how important is it that you marry a godly man? Like, how important is it? Do we really.

[C]

What.

[A]

What does it really look like if we're unequally yoked? Like, all those different things. And both of y'all said, when you met Tupac, when you met dad, one of the things you fell in love with was that they loved the Lord. And when you got to the hard times of your life, the thing that you fell back to was the center of God in your relationship. Like, how important is it for people listening who are believers or look at this lifestyle and go, man, I kind of want that. How important has faith been in the role of Yalls relationships?

[C]

I think for us, of course, it's been the cornerstone. I think back at some times when maybe we were having rougher times in our life, but we were still involved at church, working with the teenagers. Those are the things that would pull us back together. Because every Sunday night, the teenagers were at our house. We got to get it together, clean up the house and be nice. And not in a negative, bad way, but that helped us. That gave us a center of things that were going when other things were going on around us. God was so much a part of our life, and that pulled us always back together. And I would never say that if you marry somebody who's not a Christian, he can't become that, because certainly that's such a testament to stay with somebody and continue to love the Lord and bring them around. But if you have a choice, I would look for somebody who loves the Lord. Because you start off with one plus and your plus side, you know, you've got that.

[A]

That's good.

[C]

That's great.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

I would say it's vital. I just think that it is. It is so important, you know, in our relationship. And also, I think, you know, because. Because of that, there's that structure of marriage and what God had intended for marriage and the way and the commitment. I mean, you know, we feel like we made an oath before God for our marriage. And if you didn't have that, I think when the tough times came, you'd be like, nah, why, you know, why stay? So I think the fact that, you know, to marry someone that loves the Lord, I think is really important. Another thing, too, I remember something my aunt said at a women's thing. She said, you're not your husband's Holy Spirit. He has one. And so, like, if you're. If your husband does not have the Holy Spirit working on him, then it's easy to give up hope. Because, like, sometimes, like, you really want to be your husband's Holy spirit. You want to be, like, the one saying, like, hey, you do this, you should do this, or don't do that, or, like, hey, work on that. But if you know that he has the Holy Spirit inside of him and that God is working in his life, well, as well, it's easier to be patient with them, to be like, okay, I'm gonna let God do his work. I've got prayer. I can talk to God about it, and I can know that he's working in his life because he does have the Holy Spirit inside of him. And I know that you know that he's gonna work that out. I don't have to work that out. And so I do think that's another just really important part of. It's really good marrying someone who loves the Lord.

[A]

Love that. This is so good, y'all. This has been so good. Thank y'all. So much for coming on and sharing your stories. It was so good.

[C]

Thank you for having us.

[B]

So fun.

[A]

Come back, okay?

[C]

We will. Anytime.