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Hey, friends. Okay, Treat this like a voice memo text from a friend, because I'm literally voice memoing y' all from my car. We're adding this into the podcast because I kept saying that I'm doing the Bible in a year with the Bible Project, but I'm actually doing the Bible Year the Bible Recap with Tara Leigh Cobble, which I actually said Tara Leigh Cobble, but I said the wrong name, and that was silly, and I said it, like, a lot of times. So if that's distracting you, I'm so sorry. I actually have done a lot of the Bible Project stuff. Stuff, and I love it. But this year, as a goal, I'm going through the Bible in a Year with Tara Lee Cobble for the Bible recap. So sorry about that. Hope you all love the episode. There's so much goodness in here. What is up, everybody? Happy New Year. This is so exciting. The first. Well, let's get episode of 2026. I'm so thankful that you're here. Whether this is your very first time to list or you've been kicking alongside me for about seven and a half years. Super thankful to step into a new year of podcasting. And today we're gonna have a lot of fun because we have everyone's favorite guests on the podcast. No offense to Christian. We have my mom. Welcome K. Swag back to the podcast.
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I'm so honored to be here for the first episode of the new year and also seven and a half years. That's amazing.
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Isn't that wild?
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I'm so proud of you.
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Thank you.
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I remember when you were in high school, talking about things like this, like podcasts, blogs, and it was kind of like the start of all those things, like, you know, YouTube pages or whatever. And I remember saying, like, I think the people that succeed in that are the ones who just stay in it, who don't quit. Just don't quit. And look at you.
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It's true.
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You didn't quit. You just stuck with it. You just kept going, doing it week after week after week. And so many people have been blessed by it, and we've all been blessed by it and learned so much. So super well done.
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Thank you. It was cool. When we were in LA this past year at Dance with the Stars, we ran into Elona Mar and her sisters, and they just started a podcast. So I was like, oh, I saw y' all start a podcast. Congrats. And they're like, yeah, like, it's awesome. And I said, I've been doing a podcast too. And they were like, oh, what's it called? I was like, well, that's good. Oh, that's so cool. I'll check it out. And I said, man, I just think podcasting is like the best. I think, especially in today's day and age, like, where there's so much short form content, it's so great to just have conversations with people. I learned so much from them. And they were like, well, when did you start yours? I was like, oh, about seven and a half years ago. And she was like, what were you, like, the first podcast ever? I was like, no, but I was earlier on than now. Like, the wave of. I feel like everybody has a podcast. That was definitely not the case, seven and a half years ago. But I think you're right. Like, there is something to, like, longevity. And it's really cool. Like, so many new listeners are like, where do I start? Like, do I start at the beginning? Like, and I do want to help categorize that for people. That's one of my, my goals this year, to help categorize our podcast for new listeners. Because I don't necessarily think I'd say start from the beginning. We've grown a lot. I've grown a lot. And like, if you want the perspective of a, you know, 22 year old, then start at the beginning. As I was navigating, that's the thing.
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It was like you were learning. And that's what the whole podcast was set up to be, was just to get advice from people and learn from people. And I think that that's the best podcasters, to me. Actually, we were talking about another podcaster the other day, and you were saying how he didn't really say very much. He just kind of like threw out a question and let the other people talk. And I said, I think the best podcasters are those that are genuinely, genuinely learning, genuinely curious, generally, like, want to hear from whoever you're sitting down with. And so I think that was what made it special.
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It's true. I've learned so much, I don't know where I would be without getting to sit in the seat and listen and learn so much. It's actually funny to think about that. So much of my growth in life has happened while other people are listening. And sometimes learning on a podcast is a beautiful, beautiful thing. Most of the time it's a beautiful thing, but sometimes I do get stumped in it because I'll be just fully listening and I'm like, oh, I'm interviewing. Like, yeah, because I am a podcast listener. So I'm listening to our guest. I'm just all in. I'm, like, thinking how it relates to my life and some things I want to implement after this conversation. And then I'm like, oh, my turn to talk. Okay, next question. But I think from the beginning, I used to have questions, you know, set out, and now I do a lot of studying, but I just know the kind of conversation I want to have, the overall direction I want to go, what I'm searching for, but not necessarily as many. Like, this is what I'm going to ask you this.
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Yeah.
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Because I've learned, like, sometimes the conversation goes to places that you didn't expect, and when you're, like, trying to drive it and, like, trying to get it back to where you kind of miss out on where maybe it was going to go.
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Yeah.
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Where it was going to lead. So I've learned a lot, and I'm thankful for it.
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I think people should go back and listen. And I think that's a great. I think we need to do that this year is categorize it all so that way people can find, like, if you want to. If you want to find something that's talking about anxiety or.
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Yes, that's whatever.
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Or fear or, you know what, marriage or relationships or whatever, you can actually go find that because there is so much wisdom.
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Yes, there really is. It's crazy. And so many amazing guests. Our first guest is Bob Goff. Like, oh, it's super epic and so fun.
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I did not realize.
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I know. And I used to only do, like, 20 minute long episodes. And then at the end of the episode, I would call you and we'd remember. It was the good and bad advice segment. And I'd be like, that's hilarious. Someone said on Instagram, is this good advice or bad? Bad advice. And there is some woe. That's bad and there's some good. And it was kind of a nod to, like, learning how to discern when something, like, sounds good, but it might not be true. So there's some. There's some gems back in the day.
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Okay, I forgot about that. You were living in Nashville, so you would call me and randomly. Like, I didn't know when you were going to call and you were recording.
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Yeah. So it's. It's changed so much in the best way. Glad to have a studio now. I used to, like, record wherever whenever I had my little microphone. My little. Oh, what was it called now? I can't remember what it was called. It was like a box that had everything I needed mix. Yes. Mixpreath. Yeah, that was awesome. Mix Pre three. And I take that everywhere. And it was. It's been such a fun journey. This. Today on this podcast, we're going to talk about a new year, new start, resolutions, word for the year. We're going to talk about what we've learned from last year, what we're taking with us, what we're leaving behind. We have a lot of things to talk about. Do you have anything, mom, on just starting a new year? Why do we set goals if so often we don't keep them? Why should we set intention? Why is this kind of conversation important at the start of the year?
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Well, today you really prompted me, because of having this on my calendar, to, like, think about this a lot. And so this morning I woke up and it was just like, so in my brain and I pulled out, like, all my old.
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That is so funny that you did that.
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These are like my calendar books from the last, like, four years.
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Also. You're gonna have to link that because those are cute.
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These are good ones, actually. This is a really good one. I keep ordering this one. So anyway, one of the things that I was thinking about in it is I've always loved the new year. I think I've always felt like it's important to set a goal for the year. Once, like, the word for the year became, like a thing, I was like, oh, this is so fun. This is great. I think it's important to kind of like, have a restart. I mean, you can always restart. You can restart midway through the year or whatever, but it kind of just sets your mind because you're starting a new year. Like, what are you leaving behind in the path? What paths? What are you taking forward? All those things I think are great for a new year. And one of the things that I started doing probably five or six years ago because I was never a really good. Like, I love to set them, but, like, writing them down in a place that I could go back and look and keep them and know whether I followed through with them and all that. I would write them on some random piece of paper or write them on whatever. Then it'd get thrown away or set. Set aside or put in a box somewhere. And then I never went back to it. So several years ago, I started doing it actually in my yearly calendar and writing down. And so every year what I do is I'll write down my mission statement. So several years ago, I went to a guy, Pete Richardson, who does this whole life planning.
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He's been on the podcast. He's fantastic. Listen. I haven't heard that one.
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Yes. And so helps you kind of formulate your own personal mission statement. So if you don't have something that you can. You could do. And so each year, I kind of, like, rewrite that I write down. I have a little things of, like, what I love, and it's just, like, what I love. And it's just, like, notes. Like, what I love.
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What I love in a deeper sense. Or what I love? Like, I love.
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No, like, I love to be creative and build. I know. Like, I love to build.
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You do. Be loving chaps.
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I do Aquaphor, but I'm obsessed. But anyway, I do. So I write things like that. Or then I write things like, life, maybe. Maybe we'll do this one day in life. It's just, like, these things that I write every year, and every year, I just move them to the next calendar.
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I didn't even know you did that.
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You didn't know I did that.
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I literally didn't know you did that.
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So here it is.
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Whoa.
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So each year I rewrite this in my next calendar, and then I can assess. I can be like, okay, did I actually do that this year? Did I live that? What are the things that I can check off? I'm like, oh, I did that life dream. I can check that off.
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I'm inspired, or whatever.
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Then I'll write, like, a mission for mission statement for, like, my work and for my business for the next year. So each year, I just kind of. Like, a lot of it is just recopying. Recopying what I read the year before. And then I start. Then I go into kind of goals for that year. So it's like, what's my word for the year? What are some specific goals that I can set? And the goal thing is, like, you don't always hit all of them.
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Yeah.
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It's an intention.
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Yeah.
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And I think that is where people get, like, tripped up. It's like, they're like, oh, actually, this. I read this. Most people quit their goals by January 8th.
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Oof.
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I know. Isn't that pitiful?
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Oof. Eight days.
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You're only eight days in, and you're already quitting. So it's like, don't set it. Like, oh, I quit it, and I don't go back. It's just an intention. It's just, like, an idea of what you want to do. There's one that I kind of move every year, and it's learn a song on the piano. And I still haven't done it, but it's there. It's there and I'm moving it to this year and maybe this will be the year that I do that great.
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Yes.
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And so maybe one day I will.
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Remember the year that my goal was to stretch every day.
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Oh, that was last year.
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Was that last year?
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That was last year.
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I didn't do it.
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And Christian in London, that was February. So we were one month into the year, last year already, and you were struggling to stretch.
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And Christian was like, he was being so good, trying to help me and, like, remind me, and I still didn't do it.
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He's the best.
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That's another one.
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I'm setter and sticking to it. Person I know.
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Yeah.
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He, like, if he says he's gonna do it, he's doing it. He's so disciplined. And it's very inspiring.
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Every year I almost have discipline for my word, and then I'm like, no.
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Almost have discipline for my word, and then I back out.
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Every year I think I probably should choose discipline for my word because that's the thing that I'm the least good at.
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Oh, that's funny.
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And then every year I'm like, but I don't really want to do that.
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Okay. Speaking to that, though, I think this is another, like, concept to why these conversations are important, is that they do provide accountability. Like, when you set it down, you set an intention. It makes you accountable. And that's why you don't want to choose discipline for your word, because then you'd be accountable to that following it. Exactly. And so there's, like, beauty in that. And then there's also so much challenge in that. And so I think that's why some people are like, well, I don't want to do it because then if I say I'm going to do it, I don't do it. Then I failed or I would be embarrassed. And I think you got to, like, stop that way of thinking and just say, it's not a fail if you don't do it. It's not embarrassing. Like, this is your challenge to yourself to become better. And if people start laughing, it's like the man in the arena, like, hey, you get in the arena and then. Then you can talk.
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You know, one thing I think our family is good at is failure. Like, I think we're okay with it. Like, we're okay with, like, having an idea and it not happening, and we just kind of move on. And I think that's a positive in a way. You know, it's not because we. We can take a risk and try something and say, like, okay, this year I'm gonna try this, and I don't do it. I'm like, okay, I'll move it to next year. Maybe I will next year. Or maybe it was not a good idea in the first place.
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You know, speaking of, let's give a real life example. So dad, you know, he's known as Willie Robertson, boss. Ha. He's known as a successful businessman. He has literally traveled to several schools and taught business classes. He is a good businessman. But let's go back to dad making a nine on the act. He struggled through college and majored in physical education. Doesn't do anything like that.
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Right.
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How many. How many other jobs did he think he was going to be? A professional bowler?
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Oh, my Gosh, through our 20s, I cannot tell you the amount of ideas that he had or the things that he was going to do. He wanted to be a dj. At one point, he had an idea to, like, travel and, like, dude, this dj, I don't even know. Professional bowler, professional Scrabble player, personal golfer. He tried to get on the basketball team in college, and the coach was like, no. So, yeah, he tries a lot of.
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Things, and he still does stuff like that and.
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Still does.
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Yeah, still tries so many things, which I think is so good. Like, each year. He's not just saying that, oh, I've reached success, and that's it. It's like, no, there's so much that I have in me that I want to try, and a lot of those things fail, but some hit. And so it's not. You're not a failure when certain things didn't work out the way that you thought it was going to go. You learned something from it. And now he's really good at bowling. He's really good at Scrabble. He's really good at golf. He's really good at all these things he thought he would be, like, a professional in. Now he has skill sets for. So when you set something out for the new year, that might not be the thing you end up with, but you have skills in that direction, and that's something to be proud of.
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That's good. Which also takes me back to our first conversation about not quitting in your podcast. So there are things that it's like, there's value in staying and just continuing and just not quitting, but it doesn't mean that, like, it has to all reach a certain success within one year's time. It's like, okay, in 2026, if I don't do this, it can be. It's an intention you're setting. You stick with something that you love, that you're passionate about, and just keep going, keep going, keep going. And maybe years. We always talk about for, like, duke dynasty happened 40 years after Phil invented the duck haul. And there was a ton of years that it. Most people would have quit. I mean, most people.
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And maybe even should have.
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Should have quit. Yeah. To be like, you're not even able to support your family doing this. You should go quit and just get a job or whatever. And so I think that it doesn't mean that you're failing at something. It just hasn't come to be yet.
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Yeah. When did you start doing these things? Calendars?
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I think, like, 2019. I mean, is when I started writing them. Actually writing my actual intention out. I think it was probably after I saw Pete, which I'm trying to remember what year that was, that I started actually kind of, like, writing my mission statement down and. And writing down specific goals. I think writing down goals are really important. Also. Notes on your phone are great. I mean, I went back and saw a note on my phone about some things that I had just prayed about and set intention for years and years ago that I found recently, and I'm like, whoa. Yeah, all happened. All came to fruition. Like, we. We actually. Actually accomplished that goal that I had set. And I didn't even kind of, like, almost didn't even realize I'd set it as a goal. It was just something that I kind of. I dreamed about or wanted. And then I was like, oh, I didn't realize I wrote that down. Yeah, I do think writing it down and like I said, doing it this way for me has been helpful because it's in my. I look at my calendar essentially every day. I know a lot of people just do digital calendars now, but I think there's value in having a calendar like this now.
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You can look back and read it.
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I actually think the digital calendar hurt us maybe whenever we started just relying on that, because you can't see your month as a whole, your week as a whole. You can't see kind of your life as more of a whole. You're only seeing the day more like the day. Yeah. Which maybe there's value in that because only worry about today, but also I think seeing kind of things as a whole, like your life as a whole, your year as a whole, is helpful in some ways.
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That's good. I like it. I'm inspired. I think I'm gonna get myself one. Okay, what are some of your goals for 2026, real time?
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Well, this is. This is real time because I haven't really totally set them. Usually I will say I think I take January to kind of do a little like prayer and fasting and time. And so I haven't set them all. But this morning it got me like, really getting serious about it since we were having this talk. And the word that keeps coming to my mind for this year is growth. And which.
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So you think that's your word for the year?
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Might be my word for the year.
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Getting moved to 2020. It is.
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This year I saw JP Paluda. He. He put on one of his things. He was like, suggested word for the year, and it had like three. And one of them was discipline.
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I was like, nope, yeah, I didn't see it. It's not a sign.
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Growth is one that just keeps coming to mind. Which I told dad and he was like, mine's going to be tumor. And I was like, why are you ruining my word? Why you were ruin my word by saying that now it makes me think of that. But anyway, He had another. He's like, or goiter or something. He just started saying, like, other growth. Thinking of a growth on your body. But he's so bad. But that's one that I'm thinking of. Sometimes I'll try to put like a verse to go with it. And so this morning I read a verse I thought was like.
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I was like, oh, I got my Bible, if you know where.
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Okay, it's John 15.
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Okay.
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Starting at 4. And so here's what's interesting about this. When I first read this verse this morning, I thought, oh, maybe that's going to be my word. And then as I. Well, yes, and. But actually in niv, it's remain. So remain or abide. So then I'm like, oh, maybe it's going to be remain.
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You want to read it in your.
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Translation, but I'll read it in mine. But then as you read, listen for how growth comes in. Growth come in. Comes in. When you remain in with God, Remain in me as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself. It must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you Remain in me. I am the vine, you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit apart from me. You can do nothing. So I was thinking about how, like, okay, which. This is a message of growth, a garden, a tree that is growing. And it's saying, if you remain in God, you'll bear fruit.
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You'll grow.
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You'll grow fruit. If you remain in God by remaining in him, that is how you grow.
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That's good.
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Which I was like, whoa, that's really cool. Because I was like, okay. So I don't know. It's remained. I don't know. But I was just thinking about how, like, in God's economy, it's the opposite. Like, remaining in him is how you bear fruit.
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That's good.
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Where in another. In the world's view, it's like, growth is like change and do this and go and get after it and all that. In God's economy, remaining, that's how you grow and how you bear fruit.
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I am strong. He is made strong in me.
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Okay, so. So this is the. This is the funny thing. Most of us think that verse says, for when I am weak, then he is strong. That's, like how we remember that verse. That's like, what we talk about. That's what we write about. But it actually says, for when I am weak, then I am strong. So Paul wrote this, and he was. He didn't say, for when I'm weak, he is strong. Although that is true. He said, for when I'm weak, then I am strong.
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I was thinking. I was like, first I am strong, and then I thought, well, maybe. No, it's talking about God is Strong.
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But it's actually saying, you are strong. When you're weak, you're strong. And so he. He breaks this down, and I love this so much. He says, on behalf of this manna, I will boast, but on behalf. But on my own behalf, I will not boast except for my weakness. Though should wish to boast, I would not be a fool, for I would be speaking the truth, but I refrain from it, so that no one thinks more of me than he sees in me or hears from me. So to keep me from becoming conceited, because of the surpassing greatness of the revelation, a thorn was given to me in my flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me to keep me from becoming conceited. Then he says three times, I pleaded with the Lord that he would take this away from me. But he said to me, and then this is in red letters, which is interesting, because this isn't like the gospel. So it's like Jesus saying this to Paul, My grace is sufficient for you. My power is made perfect in your weakness. Therefore, I will boast all the more gladly in my weakness so that the power of God may rest on me for the sake of Christ. Then I am content with weakness, insults, hardships, persecution, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong. That is a complete opposite way of looking at life.
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Exactly.
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I'm not gonna become conceited. And some of these things. And I started thinking about this even with the ide. Like, insecurity, because some of these things you think, like, by this point, I'm like, I should not be insecure. Like, I should be, like, so confident, rooting God by this point, I should not have anxiety. Like, it's kind of like the thorn in your flesh. You're like, why do I still have this God? I've asked you to take this away, like, so many times. But I started thinking about, what if that isn't, like, those things in you is not saying, like, you have a problem in your faith, is actually saying, like, this is your opportunity for faith. So, like, your insecurity isn't like, a problem that a faith problem problem. It's not like you have a lack of faith. That's your opportunity for faith, you know? And it's like, I'm gonna start looking at it like that this year. Like, whenever I have hard things or insecurities or overthinking moments, like, I'm not gonna, like, shame myself and be like, oh, why don't I have enough faith to just overcome this? But, like, this is actually an opportunity for me to have faith that God. Like, when I feel this week, I'm actually at my strongest state because I am dependent on you.
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Yeah. Isn't that cool? So good.
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Talk about an opposite way of thinking about life.
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If you look about, you know, looking back, thinking as you were saying, that on my life, it is those times when I'm, like, the most dependent on God, when I'm the. I feel the weakest. But it's the time that I know that, like, I'm most dependent on him. My faith is the strongest.
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You're the strongest?
B
Yeah. My faith is the strongest. Yeah.
A
Like, I love that, and I love even that. He said, like, this is to keep me from becoming conceited. Like, I keep asking. He's like, no, like, this is. This is where I have you. This is. Is like, you're supposed to feel that, you know, which is kind of a crazy way of thinking about it. And that his grace is sufficient for us. His power is made perfect. I love that so much. I've heard it a million times. I've read it. I've quoted it. But I don't know, I guess I've dwelled on it more lately. I've thought, well, there's a lot of richness to that. And it's a challenge to actually think about things oppositely than you do. I actually think my word for this year, and it's kind of like you. I'm pondering. I think this is my word for the year, but I haven't attached a scripture to it. Although this scripture is amazing. Amazing. And this is going to be something I think about this year. It doesn't necessarily go exactly with my word, but the word renew. And I'm going to read the definition of renew. Not that we don't know what it means, but it's cool to read definitions.
B
So I did that this morning, too. Like, that's like.
A
It's like, I know what this means, but I'm gonna read the definition because it pulls out, like, just the gravity of it more. So first resume after an interruption. And not like this. These were the best interruptions of my life. But I have been having children for years.
B
Yeah, exactly.
A
Okay. I'm, like, resuming back into life, not being pregnant or postpartum.
B
Yeah.
A
So that's kind of cool. And then to. Okay, so then it says to give fresh life or strength, to revive, to extend for a further period the validity of. Or to replace something that is broken or worn out. And I think, like, all three of those go with so much that I really need to apply to my life. I think that there are some things when, when you go through life and you do go through a time of like a time period that changes you of like, having children and like, coming back to. And like, you're not who you used to be. You are a new person, but you. You have these old habits, and some are good and some are bad and some you need to take with you and some you need to ditch. I think I'm kind of like processing that and feeling that. And one of the things last year, when I think about last year and this, this kind of going into, like, what are you leaving behind and what are you taking with you? Which will. I'll ask you that next. But something that I am taking with me that I did this past year, and this is going to sound interesting because it kind of goes against what we. What we were just saying is that I was willing to, like, change things that needed to change and like, in big ways, like, our life changed a lot last year. And I. I'm not going to go into all the details on this podcast, but, like, we made. We made a lot of moves. Like, we switched things that we just needed to switch. We moved places. We need to move.
B
Yeah, we.
A
We just changed some things. And I think for a long time the reason I stayed at some of those things that it ended up leaving was, was because of this whole message of, like, you gotta say planted, because when you're planted, then, like, that's how you know, that's how you begin to thrive, and that's where the harvest comes. And so many messages in the church is like, the importance of being planted. And I so didn't want to be the person that was like, not planted or not committed because I know there's value in that. But last year there were just some things that kind of rose to the surface that I, Christian and I both started feeling, we need to make a move.
B
Yeah.
A
And I didn't realize how much I like, how afraid I was that people were gonna think, like, oh, you're wishy washy. Like, oh, you just gave up. Because it was hard. Oh. And it wasn't that those things were hard. It was like there was a lack of peace there. There was just something we knew for our family, like we needed to make a shift. And I think there's like a lot of spiritual maturity and like, knowing when it is time to make a move and like, like growing in discernment when it's like, okay, we need to make this move because this is going to be the best decision for our family right now. Even though, like, maybe nobody else gets that and maybe no one else understands that and that's okay. But this is what we need to do for us and for our kids. And I look back at the year and I'm like, I'm proud of us for making those moves. Because now on this side of it, I'm like, that was the best decision. Like, that was the best decision. And so I do think even a renewal and like, okay, there was some change, but, like, now what does that look like for us this year? You know, stay, like now, sowing some seeds in this new space that we're in. And so it's kind of hard to be vague. I always say on a podcast, like, there's a difference in vulnerability and transparency and, like, you're not going to be super vulnerable with, you know, 100,000 people who listen to this but you. But transparency is helpful. And I do think that in this year, I have learned that there is a time, there's sometimes a time to leave, and there is a lot of that is a hard thing to do. It's a hard thing to leave when you actually are used to, like, the value of staying. But there's also a lot of value in leaving when it's time. Stepping into a new year always makes me feel like I want to reset a few things, especially the stuff my kids are watching. If your house is anything like ours, screen time happens sometimes and that's okay. Actually, things think screen time can be very productive when it's something good. And that's why Minnow has been such a lifesaver for our family. Minnow makes it easy for families to grow in their faith together. It is the perfect partner for parents who want their kids to have fun, stay curious, and learn about God in a way that feels natural and exciting. It's a faith based, value driven streaming service that parents can trust, because trust is everything when it comes to what our kids are taking in. Minnow has tons of shows and devotionals that cover all kinds of topics that keep kids engaged while filling their minds with things that truly matter. Some of our favorites, we love the Sunni, the Super Unicorn, we love the David series. The Dead Sea squirrels is so cute. Veggie tails they have, they really have it all. And the best part of it is, is that it's ad free so you never have to worry about something sneaking up that you weren't expecting that you did not sign up for. Our kids Love David. Like, move over, Elsa. David's in the house. Like, David is the main character right now. For, for them that they love so much, they love talking about Goliath and David, it's just been the sweetest thing ever. It's a visit gomenow.com to start your free trial today. Plus you can use the code to get your first month for free. So that's w h o a go check out Minnow. You guys are going to love it. This is a web only exclusive offer, so make sure to sign up on the go minnow.com website with the code. Whoa. To get your first month for free.
B
For me, it's like you have to determine what are the things that you're like you're staying and that's like your marriage, like your family, like what are the things that you were called to that you, you are staying in, you're staying faithful in. And then other things can, they are going to come and go. And that is part of life. And you know, the longer you live, the more you see is like, okay, yeah, that was there for this time period in my life and it was great then. And there's nothing, there's. I can go forward in gratefulness for what that was, but also I can move onto something new because that renewal, like God is doing a new thing in us. And so I think that, I think that there's wisdom in that. It's not that you're not staying. You have to stay at everything you've ever done. I mean, if you stayed at everything you've ever done, then you would.
A
Where would I be?
B
You would never grow, you would never change, you know, and so true. I think that that's really, that's really wise. I remember when I was probably around your age, I felt like God gave me kind of like this vision that for this. And I've always remembered it and thought about it because I think, because I did see people that seemed really stuck, like they weren't happy in their job, they weren't happy with where they were, they weren't happy with what all these things. And they complained about it a lot and they just like. But they just didn't do anything about it, you know. And I feel like God gave me this vision of just being like stuck on the side of the road in a trench. It was just like people can just get stuck in a ditch and they just don't get themselves out, you know. And it was just this visual for me of like, okay, when I get stuck in a ditch I just want to, like, figure out how to get out of it, you know, do something different.
A
Yeah.
B
Call someone to help. You know, get a call in a tow truck. Like, do something to get out of it, rather than just staying stuck in this, like, rut. And sometimes it's like you're, like, stuck in an actual ditch, and sometimes it's like a rut that you're just like. You know what a rut is? It's like you just kind of get stuck going that direction, and you can't, like, pull it back. And so it was just this visual for me, really, in my 20s, of, like, okay, I got. I don't ever want to be, like, stuck in a rut that I'm just getting pulled in one direction that I don't even realize it. I don't want to be in a ditch, and I'm just, like, complaining about it, but I'm still in this ditch, you know? Like, I want to be able to make change and create change and do something different whenever that's good. Whenever.
A
I think a rut is so. So applicable to probably what most people feel in their 20s, because you start off your 20s thinking you have a clear path for, like, what the next 10 years is gonna look like. But then life doesn't ever go the way that you kind of think it's gonna go, so you do start veering. And some of that is good, and some of that is bad. Like, there are things that I picked up along the way that are great, and there are. Some of that is like, oh, that's not so great, you know, that I want to kind of steer back in the right direction, and I think that's really good to, like, be aware of that. And I think, too, the. The changes that we made last year, one of the things I'm think I'm trying to do well, and it's interesting because, like, two people said this to me, passionately, spoke this over me. They're like, you're in a season change. And they were, like, just encouraging that that's a good thing, and that's a. That's a natural thing, and just do your best to do that well, because season changes are hard. Like, they can be kind of harsh sometimes. You know, I feel like even when you think about. About natural seasons, when. When the. When it shifts, like, you get allergies, like, yeah, it's cold. It. Like. Like, there are changes, and some of it's really good, and it's beautiful, and then some of it brings some hard things, and every Thing that we walked through last year that was changed was even though it was the right decision, it was still hard. It came with hard conversations, uncomfortability, walking into new things that felt like, like, ah, we're here again. Like, we feel like a freshman all over again. Someone says that, like every four years you feel like a freshman again because that's life. And it's like, oh, that's actually true.
B
Like, been changed to start your schedule. Changes to your schedule.
A
Schedule changed completely. Like, we had no, no, like, schedule, like, up until this year. Then we're like, okay, we got to like, actually live by a legit schedule. So that was new for us just because our family, we. We had been traveling for so long and doing all these things that required, like, different schedules. This year we bit more, a little more scheduled, but all of that was a little bit hard and uncomfortable and different. But that didn't mean it was the wrong decision. And I think that's where, like, people, like, turn back because they're like, oh, this is hard. Okay, maybe I'll just go back to what it was. It's like, no, if you know you're supposed to change, if you know you're supposed to make a move, even if it's hard, even if it's uncomfortable, just knowing, like, there's a peace in knowing you're following God. You know, there's an assurance and a confidence and knowing I'm following God. And so there was never a time where Christianity, like, okay, we should have stayed because this is hard. It was like, no, every time it was like, this is hard. This is the uncomfortable part, but this is where we need to be. And now we're a few months out. Not even years out, months out, and we're going, this is a right call. This is so good. Look at, like, look at what unfolded from making those moves this past year, which is super helpful.
B
That reminds me of that in when the Israelites, when they just left Egypt and they're like, there's that point where they want to go back.
A
Story's crazy.
B
I love that. I love this story. This is one of my favorite, like, parts of scripture. It's like this point where they're just like, they want to go back to slavery because it's hard. It's different, it's scary. They're. They're. They're not. They were like, wait.
A
But back to what they need.
B
At least we had something com. There was some comfort in what, you know, I guess. And so they're just complaining and complaining about It. And then God actually says to them, like, stop talking. Like, stop talking and keep going. Like, that is literally what he says. Like, stop talking, keep going. And I just love that so much because it's like, we all were just. Like, sometimes we just. Just keep talking to God about our complaints, and he's like, nope, just keep going.
A
I got something better for you.
B
Just keep going.
A
Listening to me, like, stop talking. Stop talking in the most loving way. Stop talking.
B
Exactly.
A
Oh, it's so true. Because then you look back and you're like, yeah, you really did have a plan. So that was great. Thank you.
B
Exactly.
A
Sorry about all of the doubt.
B
To mess it up.
A
Yeah, sorry about the doubt. Hey, when I'm weak, I'm strong. That's good. Yeah. So that. That's something that I am taking with me from last year. And I think leaving behind. A lot of times when you take with you of. Leave behind, like, the opposite of thing you take with you, but kind of that, like, passivity of, like, just staying. Just being, like, yeah. You know, not. I want to be willing to go where. Where God's good is and willing to have hard conversations. And I think even too, this past year, I've realized, like, even our friends, like, through our friend group, we went through, like, a lot of really hard things and. Yeah, really deeply hard things. And. And I just, like, we all just kept showing up for each other and in, like, the really, really raw moments where it was like, you'd be driving over there and thinking. I don't know what I'm gonna say. Like, this is gonna be hard or this. What if I. Whatever. Like, you're having all those thoughts, like, what if I said the wrong thing? This is gonna be awkward. This could be hard. We're gonna be sitting in the tension. And I'm so thankful that we showed up for each other the way we did, because now we're at the, like, walking into a new year, and one of the things we've said about our friend group is, like, we are stronger than ever. And we have built a foundation over in our early 20s, like, not realizing what we were going to walk through in the later 20s, when you just get to more, like, real life. Hard things. Yeah, that we're, like, from the rest. Like, from this point on, like, it's not getting easier. Like, we're gonna keep going through hard things for the rest of our life. And I'm so thankful for the foundation we have built to, like, actually be able to walk through hard things together. And I've been So impressed by, like, our fingers walking through it the way that we have, because we didn't, like, shy away from it. We didn't grow apart because of it. We didn't, like, we ran into the hard things. And I think all year, it was like a year of, like, doing the hard thing and confronting hard things. And I'm thankful we did. It was always worth it, even though it was hard.
B
Absolutely. Yeah. You have a great friend group. It's awesome.
A
Latin Year's foundation. What were you pulling up?
B
I was thinking about. Well, I was pulling up two things I remembered that I had pulled up up also remain and how that means. And it says to continue in the same state or condition which it's was. I was just thinking about. It's not like remaining in this one place necessarily the same state or condition which is with God, like, within that state. And so that's why part of what I loved about that word when I looked at it this morning, but then growth could be the opposite of that, but just that kind of that idea. Then the other thing, thing to go back, I was, when you were talking about renewal, I was thinking about how, like, as women, which as most, I guess most women are listening to this podcast, but men listen to. So I mean, this relates to you as well, or maybe disregard. But it's like we are kind of in a. Just by. Our bodies are naturally, like, in a constant state of renewal. Like, literally, like, hormonally and having babies and all the things. It's like your body is kind of like month to month, honestly, like, you're in a kind of a constant state of renewal. And so. So I think that is kind of a beautiful thing that God gave us as women of, like, we know renewal and what that looks like and what that feels like. And it's a challenge. It's not always easy. Like, there's hard things that come with that, but also there's like, so much beauty that comes with that too.
A
Yep. It is so true. This year at Passion, I said, ooh, passion's looking a little different at 28 than I did at 22. I'm pumping every three hours. I came home, I was like, I'm proud of what the Lord did through me on stage, but I'm also really proud of the 55 ounces I'm carrying home for kids.
B
Your body's making new. Your body's in renewal literally every three hours. Like, you're making new milk every three hours.
A
Crazy. And it's hard, but it's so good. It's so good. I love that. That's a really good perspective. Some of the.
B
Any resolutions for this year?
A
I was literally about to ask you that. Look, you have to go first. Okay? This is accountable. Y' all hold me to it. Although I'm scared of y', all, but please do the Bible Project by Tara Leigh Cobble. She was on the podcast a couple years ago, I think, couple years ago. And I never did it. And I would told everybody to do it and then I didn't do it. So this is me saying this is my year to do it. I am on the day that I. That I should be on, but I kind of cheated because I started early. I started at the end of December and started reading it. And then it was actually funny today. I was like, oh, no, I missed a couple days. But I'm actually on the day I should be now. Like. So that was. Those little people say, I'm with everybody on the Bible project. And I'm super excited about that because I can't think of the last time I, like, read through the Bible. I don't even know. I don't know that there has been a time that I have read through start, like on a plan like this and actually, like, finished it. I know I have read through the Bible at different times, like reading a book here, a book there, but never like, consistently like this. So I'm super excited for that. Now, simultaneous to that, which I'm really excited about, I'm going to be reading the Storybook Bible Bible to Honey and Haven every night. And so that's my goal, to finish the Storybook Bible with them this year and then to finish my own Bible project this year. I'm really excited about seeing, like, each day the difference in what I'm getting fed and what they're getting fed, because it's the same. But you know, Jesus says, like, unless you have faith like a child. So it's kind of nice to like, have a little bit of a deep dive with Tara Lee, but then having like this beautiful childlike perspective at the end of the day. So that's my Bible reading goal, which. That's gonna be awesome. And then my other one is, okay, I do wanna start working out again. I don't have any goal other than to just do it, like. Cause currently I'm at nothing. So.
B
Me too.
A
This. That's gonna be a big jump from here to there.
B
One of mine is to get strong. I was going with. If I was going with, like, growth, I was going with the G words to try to. So I was like, okay, get strong. Strong. Like, what is that? How am I going to do it? I don't know. But I'm gonna get strong this year.
A
Yes. Because I actually feel like I just. With three kids, I. I feel in shape because I'm chasing them and that kind of stuff. But I also want to set aside time to actually work out, because I love the way I feel whenever I do. Like, it's so good for my mind mentally, all that kind of stuff. And at this point, again, renewal. I have no excuse. Like, I'm not pregnant.
B
I'm not.
A
Like. I mean, I'm kind of postpartum five months, but, like, it's time. It's time to go. And then my last one. So I only have, you know, these four. And these are. What I'm going to stick to, is wake up earlier than I need to wake up. Because I am such. Like, I've always been like this. Like, my team knows this about me. I'm not going to be early. They're going to laugh at this now, because now I am late. But back in the day, I was never. I was never late. I'm always right on time because I schedule myself, like, exactly to the time I need to be places. If I have to, like, you know, get up, I'm not gonna, like, give wiggle room. I'm getting up when I need to get up, knowing, like, it'll take me this long to get ready.
B
Yeah.
A
But what I realized now, becoming a mom, is that, like, you set the tone. You know, you set the tone of the day. And if I'm late, everybody's late. If I'm rushed, everybody's rushed. Because I gotta get ready so that then I can get everybody else ready and going. And so Sundays, what if I sleep in? Then? Like, church is just. It's so chaotic in the morning. Because then everybody's in a rush. Like, I know I set the tone. So this morning was my first morning to really do it. And I got up, like, way earlier than I needed to. And it was so nice. Cause I got my bio project done. I had to feed Kit earlier, which was great. Cause she woke up with me. That was just a little godsend. Got to have my cup of coffee, make honey's lunch. Like, I got to do so much stuff this morning. And then when Christian saw me, he goes, how do you already have, like, your hair and makeup done? I said, I already showered. I'm ready for the day. And it was, like, such a different tone to get Set on. So I'm gonna wake up earlier than I have to.
B
That's good. That's a really good one. And that's a hard one because, you know, I've never been the morning person, the morning mom. I wish I were more of a morning mom. I would have been a better mom, I think, if I had been a. More of a morning mom.
A
But you're a great mom.
B
Thank you. I'll take that. But, yeah, actually, that's a good one. I feel like I might take some of yours.
A
They're really good.
B
Those are all really good because. So this is just a funny aside about getting up in the morning. So that day, now I get up earlier than I used to.
A
I was gonna say, you've kind of been doing that.
B
I do. I like to get up now. Or. I used to sleep late, but now I like to get up, but my time is more like 7 to 7:30. If I wake up before that, I. I just won't get up. And I'm like, why do I just not just like, get myself up earlier than that? Cause then I'll have more time, which I would love. But the other morning I was. It was. I guess it was the day after New Year's or whatever. And I. I remember I was like laying in bed and I kept waking up. And then it's like my brain, it's that whole like, do I need to wake up? No, I don't really need to wake up. I just say in bed.
A
That is me.
B
And it's just like, I'm way too.
A
Nice to myself too. I'm like, you had a long day. You should just keep sleeping.
B
Yeah. And there's nothing else you need to be doing right now. Why do you. Why don't you just stay in the bed? It's like your brain is always says.
A
He's like, I wish I was as nice to myself as you are to yourself. I was like, man, it's been a rough one.
B
I'm really nice to myself, especially about sleep. I'm like, sleep. You really need sleep.
A
I know.
B
Rest is important.
A
I am definitely. This morning, it was funny. My alarm went off and I was like, well, I actually did set my. Like, I was. You know, when you set an alarm, like, this is not the one I'm gonna wake up to. Like, I'm going to hit Sneze on this one. And I'm going to wake up on this one. Although I know research has told you that's a terrible idea, yet I continue to do it.
B
I kind of like it.
A
Yeah. Because then I'm like, I'm thinking about.
B
The fat it gives you. You're like. It also gives you that little treat like, oh, I get to say 10 more minutes.
A
15 minutes. So. So alarm. And it was like 5:15 goes off. And I'm like, okay, that wasn't even the one I was going to wake up on. And then I was sleeping. I was gonna sleep till 5:30. Then Kit wakes up at 5:20. And I was stoked. It was like I literally jumped out of bed. I was like, yes. I was like, she got on time with me. Like, I couldn't believe she woke up at that time. And I was like, man, Kit, if we could get in sync, if you were my alarm, that'd be way better. And then waking up to this alarm. But who knows? I think that was just a treat for the first day doing it. But anyway. Anyways. Do you have any more that you've written down?
B
Life with babies. As you get used to what. Whatever they're doing, they change it. Yeah. Well, so I hadn't like done my real specific goals yet, but I do want to learn one song on the piano this year and I'm gonna play it at our Christmas talent show.
A
Oh, that's great accountability.
B
So here we go. I told Will I want him to sing. Like, I'm gonna learn a song and then Will's gonna sing.
A
Perfect.
B
And then we're gonna do it for the talent show. So. Okay, I gotta do that one. So one of the things. Well, I want to play more tennis this year. I have to do that.
A
Yeah.
B
But I did write Get Strong, so I was going through these. Like, that's under the category, like, get stronger. I want to like, actually.
A
Okay, pastor with your GS.
B
I know it's doing some of their GS.
A
Hey, how did piano go with G?
B
It didn't. That's why I said I haven't gotten it all together yet.
A
It hasn't.
B
It hasn't all come together yet. Also, I want to go to the River House more because. So we have a, like a space right by. By where Phil and K live that is just like peace and it's fun. And we have an old timey record player. And you just play that DVD player. DVD player.
A
There's no like Netflix.
B
Sit on a porch. And I need to do more of that this year. So those are some just kind of like fun things. But obviously Bible project. That's.
A
I'm still trying to figure out where another jewelry was.
B
I'm not saying my G's yet because here's what I wrote for G's. Get strong, grow a garden. I want to do a garden.
A
Grandma hard. I'm a grandma hard. You say grandma hard.
B
No, Grandma hard. Grandma Grandma hard. Like, I wrote grandma hard.
A
Grandma Harding with your growing a garden. And you're. I know you are. See?
B
So grandma hard. I love that. Okay, Those are my GS that I've written so far, but I haven't, like, come to more.
A
I just had to call you out and I said, I'm going with cheese. Learn the piano, grow strong and go to the River House. I was like, is it go to the river House? Was that the G?
B
Well, this was when I was using growth. Then I got on Remain. Then I was like, okay, I don't know for sure.
A
My words. Switch it to ours.
B
Exactly.
A
I love it.
B
But I did write grandma hard because I want to, like, go hard in the grandma paint this year.
A
I want to go hard in the grandma this year. That's living where you're at in the season you're in. I love that.
B
Also have some work goals too, but, you know, that's a whole other thing. I want to write a book this year.
A
You are writing.
B
I'm writing a book this year. I'm already in that.
A
Doing that too. We're doing that together.
B
Like a whole new we're not doing it together entertainment thing that we're launching this year. That's very exciting. I want to help grow Duck Commander this year. And that's. There's a lot of exciting things happening there.
A
So.
B
So I have a whole new, like, project that I'm working on that we're gonna announce.
A
Come back on the podcast to announce.
B
Talk about.
A
So I think grow is your word.
B
I have some really good projects that are happening, like, experience wise too this year that I'm really excited about.
A
That's awesome. I actually renew really is my word. Because we're going on tour in February for Ella worship. We haven't gone on tour a tour since I got married. Cause I need to take a pause because life was happening and I'm writing a book, but this is the first time I'm not doing it. A ghostwriter co writer. So this is totally new. Like, I'm coming back in, but I'm doing this totally differently. And it is very hard and very challenging. I do have someone helping me now who's like, helping me organize my thoughts book map. And I'm so blessed by her. She's amazing. Definitely takes A team. Even though I'm trying to do the words but hard. And then, let's see. I'm doing. Yeah, I feel like I'm doing a lot of things similarly to that I did in the past. Like, I'm having another opportunity to do them in May. Haven't announced this yet, but I have two things I'm doing in May that I did back in the day that I'm getting to come in at a new spot in my life at. So that's super cool. So just really excited to step into this year and be renewed in what God has for me. So this was great. I'm inspired.
B
I'm pumped about this year. I'm excited.
A
It's gonna be Grandma Hard.
B
Grandma hard.
A
Also, if anybody wants to do these with me, please feel free to do it. Like I said, I'm going through the Bible project.
B
All right. I'm thinking about Bible Project.
A
Bible project. It's really. It actually is really, really good. And then I'm reading the Storybook Bible. So if anybody wants to get that, I just L prime that to my house. Cuz. Donna Stewart, I asked Donna and Ben, like, how did y' all start introducing the Bible to your kids? And I told them, like, you know, we watch Minnow and watch those shows, and then we go to church, we talk about the Bible. But, like, I don't know how to read the Bible to them with it being, like, understandable. I guess there are parts that I read, but, like, as a whole, and they were like, storybook Bible. And then JP Was sitting beside us. He was like, y' all don't do Storybook Bible. Story Bibles. Like, what you do? I was like, oh, well, now I do. And so if y' all are. Mom out there want to read to kids, your kids. That is awesome. I'm going to work out. I have no other details, but I'm going to do that.
B
I'm gonna get strong, get strong, and.
A
Then I'm gonna plan to wake up. Not plan. I'm going to wake up earlier than I need to. So those are. Those are mine. If anyone wants to join.
B
Those are very good.
A
And we're gonna play tennis.
B
We're gonna play more tennis.
A
I'm not gonna grow a garden, but I will benefit, hopefully, from some of the things that you grow.
B
I'm gonna get back in the garden this year.
A
Thanks, Mom. Well, here's the 2026. Let's go in strong with a lot of intention and see what God's going to do and what I do. Encourage you. Final send off, write it down, because you'll be amazed next year, years to come, what God did in you this year. If you don't have, you know, physical paper to write it down on, you're like, oh, I need to get that. I need to get that. Don't wait for that. Go ahead and write it in your notes right now so that you're accountable to it. Because I always do that. I'm going to write it later and then I don't. And so I'm super thankful for whenever I do jot down in my notes on my phone. So do that now as a little accountability to yourself. And let's full send it, people.
Episode: Goals, Growth and When It's Okay to Fail | Sadie Robertson Huff & Korie Robertson
Date: January 14, 2026
Host: Sadie Robertson Huff
Guest: Korie Robertson (Sadie’s mother)
This episode kicks off 2026 with Sadie and her mom, Korie Robertson, diving into their traditions, goals, and growth over the years—both personally and on the podcast. They unpack their approach to New Year’s resolutions, setting intentions, embracing growth and renewal, and why failure is actually a valuable part of the journey. The conversation is rich with encouragement, practical tips, and honest stories about real-life change, accountability, and faith.
Korie’s Goals:
Sadie’s Goals:
The episode is warm, candid, and full of encouragement. Korie and Sadie’s banter keeps things relatable as they admit shortfalls, laugh about failed goals, and celebrate faithful persistence. The spiritual reflections are practical—focused on abiding in Christ, finding strength in weakness, and embracing change as a healthy, God-led part of life. Listeners are encouraged to set intentions, pursue accountability, be kind to themselves, and write down what they hope for in 2026.
Perfect for: Anyone feeling the pressure of making resolutions, afraid of failing, seeking spiritual encouragement, or ready to embrace a fresh season with honesty, hope, and renewed energy.
Practical Challenge:
Closing Blessing:
“Let’s full send it, people.” – Sadie [57:53]