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Macros, Modesty, & Marriage | Sadie Robertson Huff | Ally Yost | Ashley Hetherington
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Sadie Robertson
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Ally
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Sadie Robertson
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Ally
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Sadie Robertson
The kid you hear playing the piano?
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Ally
He's not mine.
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Sadie Robertson
On top of the two weekly piano lessons and finger yoga, I give my son Smarty Pants Vitamins to support his brain health. Because while I'm supposed to say it's not a competition, of course it's a f ing competition. Choose Smarty Pants Vitamins to support your kid's brain health and help them master whatever their chopsticks may be. Shop on Amazon, sell smartypantsvitamins.com or at target today hey sisters and friends Team Lo here We are just days away from the ELLO Sister Conference as it kicks off this weekend and we cannot wait to see all that God is going to do if you can't be in the room with us this year. We've got something really special for you. Our brand new ELLO Sister Conference live stream. For just $20, you'll get full access to the live stream plus seven days of on demand viewing so you won't miss a single moment. You can find the live stream link in the show notes or on Sadie's social media at Legit Sadie Robb. We cannot wait for you to experience the heart and power of ELLO Conference wherever you are. What's up friends? Happy Wednesday everybody y'.
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Ashley
All.
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Sadie Robertson
Monday's episode was just so good getting to talk to Ally and Ashley and we had them fly all the way here from la. So we could not just do one episode, we had to do two. We talked for so long and I honestly could have talked for so much longer because they just carried the joy of the Lord. They had so much good advice and it was just so fun to talk some sisters and friends. And so this is part two, a continuation of the conversation we had, y'. All. There's so much more to learn from them and I am so excited to dive in. So I'm now I'm gonna get to my random things that I wrote down. Okay, this is something I loved about the show that you guys showed and I hope this is okay to talk about. If it's not Tell me. No, but it was you with the ice cream. It was like, the overthinking, should I have a cup of ice cream? And I related to that so much because when I told y', all, when I told y' all that, like, me and my best friend went through so many similar things as y'. All. So I remember I had kind of struggled with, like, eating patterns in the past, like, unhealthy things. And then my best friend had two, but I didn't know that about her. So whenever we met someone, we were, like, both on tour together. She was a backup dancer and I was speaking, and that's how we met. And someone brought her, like, dessert. And it was, like, to celebrate her on tour. And it was just like, chocolate covered fruit. And she came in and this is when I first met her. So I didn't know her well enough to, like, know the depths of this. She's like, do you want this? I'm not gonna eat it. I was like, you don't eat it. She's like, yeah, I just don't, like, eat that much sugar. I was like, it's fruit. Like, it's like chocolate covered strawberries. Like, to me, I didn't even think of that really as dessert. But it had been a while since I had kind of been in that negative headspace. And she was like, yeah, I just like, I don't eat sugar. And I was like, okay, well, yeah, sure, I'll take it. So, like, ate it. And then it kind of made me, like, sad because I was like, man, what, like, what is that in her mind? Like, what is gripping her? Because then I started thinking about my past and kind of where I come from. And I hadn't thought too much into it when she first said it. But then over time, I started noticing these patterns in her. And we just walked through a journey, journey together of, like, overcoming that mental space that came around food. And we actually went, like, too far extreme in the opposite direction and became, like, unhealthy. We had to, like, rein it in and get back on track of, like, okay, no, there's beauty to, like, being healthy and balanced and you want to feel good, but we also needed freedom from, like, the mental space that we had been in. And so I just thought it was really relatable, like, seeing you kind of walk that out. Was that something you, like, wanted to share on Jesus Freaks? Like, were you like, I actually want to share this side of me, or did it just kind of start coming out as you guys were filming?
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Ashley
Yeah, it's a really good question, Sadie. And I'm so glad you're honest about it too, because it's so real. And I feel like even being in la, we are around this all the time. Like, a lot of people just don't eat. It's crazy. I think being in industry entertainment, like, you just don't eat. You don't ever have ice cream. You don't ever have. It has to be sugar free. And I remember I had been really in a season of idolizing food and exercise, like idolizing my macros, idolizing whether I was hitting my protein, idolize whether I was getting my workout in. It was an idol. It was above the Lord. It was God. And then exercise and food were right there, but God was still above. But it was really teetering the line. And I just remember it was during the season of J Freaks that I was dealing with that. And so we were trying to be as honest and raw as possible and we didn't script a dang thing, which is wild. I don't know. The Lord really truly moved and spoke through us. But I remember one of the days that we were filming, we were getting ice cream. And I remember, like, part. Every part of me didn't want to eat the ice cream. But we were literally shooting. So I'm like, okay, we're going to film this. And also, like, I want the ice cream. And it's not wrong to want the ice cream. And then that's just kind of like, that was the beginning of the Lord just doing that new work in me. Because it's really good to value health and exercise. It's good. The Lord made us to honor our bodies as temples. We're not supposed to eat ice cream for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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Sadie Robertson
Okay.
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Ashley
But to put it. To make it an obsession and to make it like an idol. And I think, I know some people have health concerns, but for the most part, if we're never having sugar ever, I feel like it's like low key. Become an idol. If we obsess over even, like, our protein goals. The Lord told me the other day, I'm like, He's like, you don't have. Nothing bad happens to you if you don't have your protein. I'm like, that's a really good point. God, you're so right. If we ever think about something more than God.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah.
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Ashley
Or even like.
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Sadie Robertson
And it's so crazy that it's so easy for that to become obsessive. That's how it is for me. Like, I had to get rid of Apple watch Fitbit. I couldn't wear anything that told me where my health goals were.
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Ashley
I've been thinking about that with my Oura ring.
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Sadie Robertson
I couldn't do it. It. Because I was like, I. I obsess over it, and if I don't. If I don't hit it, then, like, I feel like I failed. And I'm like, who set that goal for me? Like, me. I. God, didn't put that on me. I put that on myself. I know. I'm like, like, who is standing over you right now saying, who told you that? I'm like, it goes back to Genesis.
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Ashley
3, but it's what you're saying.
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Sadie Robertson
I become obsessive over it and a little bit, like, perfectionist over stuff like that. And, I don't know, I could relate to a lot of your story and just the way that you approach things, because I feel like that sometimes. So, anyways, I remember, like, with the Fitbit, it's like, hit 10,000 steps, and I was like, no, I have to hit 20,000 steps. And it was like, just, like, too much. And then the Apple watch is like, you know, your ring. And then me and Christian would both have both of ours on our. And Christian's such a fitness bra beast. And I'd be like, good for you. I'm pretty far off mine. But also, I'm like, I am in a different stage right now. Like, I'm mothering and I'm doing this. And, like, you don't account for that, though. In your head, you're just like, I failed. So. And then you feel like a failure when you're like, you did so many other things great that day only because you fell in this one area that you're obsessing with, and that has become too much of an idol. So I've really had to watch that in myself. I can't let myself go there. And, like, part of that, for me is not having those things because it just, like, gets me in my head, and that's really helpful and just surrendering that and just being okay with it. But that's a mental battle. Like, I still, like, no, for sure.
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Ashley
I mean, I would, because I was, like, counting my macros. And I'm not saying you should count your macros or you shouldn't. I'm not saying that. But, like, I was so. All day, I would think about food. Yeah, all day, like, okay, I'm eating breakfast, and I'd be thinking about what I have for lunch or for dinner. Literally crazy. I was thinking about food. More than God.
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Sadie Robertson
Exactly.
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Ashley
And what, What a crazy distraction. What did you say yesterday about idols? You're like, idols distract us or something.
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Ally
What did I say? Holy Spirit, what did I say?
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Ashley
You said some fire.
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Ally
Well, yeah, I, I just, I. I was just basically speaking on how the enemy is so sneaky that like, these are technically things that are good for us.
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Sadie Robertson
But he'll.
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Ally
He'll warp it and he'll twist it and convince you that by you obsessing over your macros is you actually treating your body as a temple. You're honoring God. Like, he know the devil knows your heart. Posture is always to please the Lord. And so if he can like twist it and kind of manipulate the narrative, you are actually working against taking care of your temple. Because now you're obsessing over it. But it feels like it's honoring to.
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Sadie Robertson
The Lord, like, it's wet. You gotta be careful with like over spiritual, spiritualizing, things like that. Because sometimes you do excuse like bad behavior because it sounds spiritual or it sounds right. And I think too, you had to be on guard and like use discernment because back in the day, like, it was obvious what sin was. You know, it was like, okay, shouldn't do that, shouldn't do that kind of want to sinful life. It's like not obvious when it's something that's not necessarily like sin. But sin is what separates you from God. It's a distraction. So it's like, it's a distraction. So it's like, okay, that might not be a sin. What does it say? Is it James or. It says, if you know what is right to do and you don't do it for you, it is a sin. And it's like, that's such a cool verse because it's saying, okay, that actually might not be a sin for you, but it is for me. Because to me, it separates me from God and I know the right thing to do and I'm not doing it. And the Lord told me not to do it. It's like, you know, John the Baptist, it was prophesied over him that he would not drink. He would have a sober mind, you know. And then John the Baptist is John the Baptist, and look at what he did. Well, Jesus, like drank wine with his disciples, you know, like, wow. So it's like, okay, well, it wasn't for John the Baptist for him to be filled with the Holy Spirit, but for the disciples it was okay. And so like, if the Lord calls you to something, if you're not supposed to do the macro counting. You don't need to do the micro or the oura ring or the aura ring or whatever. I was at a gym. It's all women's gym. I love this gym. It's awesome. But they do macro counting. And one of my best friends was going to the gym with me. She did it and I just told her. I was like, I can't do this part of it because I will get mental about it. And I think it's great for you to do it if you can do it and, like, keep yourself healthy and everything. But to me, it won't be healthy because it's going to be mentally unhealthy. And then it's just going to defeat the purpose of what.
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Ally
It's so good to be aware of that.
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Sadie Robertson
So you got to use a sermon in your own life. So know what God's called you to do and how he wired you and how he made you. I mean, caffeine's that way for me. I drink very little caffeine, but I've gone through, like, seasons. And when I say seasons, like two years of not drinking any because it makes me anxious. Like, my heart races. I do. And then I feel, like, more tendency towards anxiety. So it's like you have to discern what God's doing in your life. Might not be a sin for anybody else, might not even be sinful, but it can get there if you allow it to linger. One thing both of y' all are so cool at sharing is yalls personal convictions. I saw Ashley you posted recently like, you felt personally convicted to not wear, like, sports bras and biker shorts to the gym anymore, which is like, what every girl is wearing. And, you know, so sometimes that can feel hard because you're like, okay, why am I not supposed to do this? And then you feel like, not as cute as everybody else. Like, how have y' all walked through learning discernment from the spirit and following your convictions in your individual lives?
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Christian
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Ashley
That is an amazing question, Sadie, because I think a lot of people are like, how do I know God's voice? How do I know what God's telling me to do? Okay. I actually think I know, so. And I want you to share too.
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Sadie Robertson
Go ahead. But. Okay.
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Ashley
It's kind of like I want to make this super personable. So it's kind of like I'll be doing the thing and then I feel kind of like God's just like. He's just kind of like there and he's like, it's almost like a dad. He's like, you know, just kind of looking at me and I'm like, what are you looking at? Like, what are you.
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Sadie Robertson
What?
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Ashley
And I just feel. He's like, we can. We can stop doing that. We can put that away. We can. You can wear something different. I just feel this presence and that's conviction. And like, how do you know if you're feeling convicted? You just feel God as a father being like, it's not best.
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Sadie Robertson
I love that as a father. It's not shame. It's just like, it's not your best. Yeah, you just Feel off.
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Ashley
So I'd be at the gym and I'd be wearing these outfits that everyone in the gym would be wearing. But for some reason I felt off about it. Even when I was like, you know, living an impure life with my boy. Ex. Boyfriend, with my boyfriend at the time, and I was still a Christian, I had this spirit inside of me and I would feel God be like, no, you know, and so that's. I just feel a fatherly conviction. What about you? Yeah, I think that's.
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Ally
Yeah, that's so real. And I think, honestly, I feel like for Ash, like, the fatherly conviction might have been a little quicker for her because my journey with Jesus, I mean, it was literally just me and Jesus. Like, I didn't really know God as the Father. Like, I hadn't seen that part of him yet.
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Ashley
So.
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Ally
Yeah, I mean, whenever I feel like something could be questioned where you're like, okay, I actually don't know if I know the answer to this. Like, is this actually something I should be doing or not? Jesus has always just been like that friend that's like, hey, you know what? Maybe we just don't then.
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Sadie Robertson
You know what I mean?
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Ally
Like, if it's a question and you don't feel super solid about doing it. No, just don't, you know, because what are we gonna lose in not doing it?
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Ashley
You know, doing like, best bud. Like, yeah, he's. No, we don't.
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Ally
And he's always so chill about it.
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Sadie Robertson
He'll be like, hey, girl, maybe we.
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Ally
Just go without it.
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Sadie Robertson
Then. I'm like, you're right. Jesus. Allie, do you see Jesus?
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Ally
Okay, I don't see him like standing in the room right here, but I do get like a picture of him in my mind and I can like see his facial expressions in my mind. Like, I think he uses my imagination that way. So, like, I don't see him standing, but I will.
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Sadie Robertson
I'll be like, yeah, you're right. You're like, yeah, better not. Not a good call. Not a. That's so funny. And it's so real though. I mean, you see it as a father, a dad, standing there, like kind of disappointed, like, we can do better. And you see him as a friend. And that's the beauty of God. Like, he is father and he is friend. And that's the most mind blowing thing in the world. Is that the God who created the universe, like, what, hello, is your father and then sent his one and only son to come and die on the cross to forgive you of your sins, to like allow you to actually be in relationship with God. And then not only did he stop there, but then he gave you his spirit to be inside of you, so that at any time, anywhere, any place, you can access a personal relationship and friendship with God and discern what God would be saying to you, because he is speaking to you, and he is moving through you, and you do feel conviction for a reason. So, like, yeah, it all checks out. That's actually, like, who God is as a father, who God is as a friend, and who God is as a spirit. It's amazing. And, yeah, it's so interesting about the topic of, like, modesty and the sports bra thing. I. I felt the same way. And it's. It's interesting because I've gone through different times where I didn't feel that way, and then times where I was like, oh, okay, well, I don't really feel like I should wear that anymore. And recently, Christian and I were on a trip to Austin, Texas, and everyone in Austin was looking so cute, and their little bag of shorts and sports were all. And I was like, babe, everyone just looks so cute in their little outfits. And I was like. And I don't know why. I just don't feel. I don't. I don't feel like it's modest on me, but I don't think it's, like, immodest on them necessarily. And then he was like, okay, coming from a man, he was like, I think it is immodest on them. He's like, it's too much to see. And he's like. And I wouldn't feel comfortable with you wearing that in public, because I just don't want someone looking at your body, you know, in that way. And I was like, that's really cool to hear him say. Cause I think even, like, from a girl's perspective, we're like, oh, it's cute, you know? And then you hear a guy's perspective, you're like, yeah, but it's actually, like, not worth it, you know, because you can look beautiful and be a little bit more covered and, you know, and it was just cool to hear my husband say that, because I was just kind of processing it out loud. And Christian's never, like, one to be. He's not overbearing. He's not like, you can't wear that. You can't wear that. But I asked him. I was like, I feel like it doesn't really look immodest on them. Why do I feel this? He's like, you're not Crazy. He's like, it is. I mean, it shows a lot. And, like, as my wife, like, I don't really want you to be wearing that. I'm glad you don't. And it made me feel better because I think sometimes we think, oh, well, I want to wear that because if my husband's gonna see them wearing it, then I want him to see, like, me wearing it. And I. And you. And I felt that way in high school, even I was like, well, it's immodest. But, like, if all the other girls are wearing it, how would I get a guy's attention if I wasn't? You know? And, like, you just feel those insecure thoughts. If I wasn't doing what everyone else is doing, then how would I get that attention? Same thing with social media. If I'm not posting bikini pictures and, like, these guys are gonna see them, and how am I gonna stand out? And it's like, then you have to think about what do want in life. Like, what kind of guy do you want? Where is that leading to? What do you want out of that? Satisfaction, out of that person's acknowledgment of you. And if you really think about it for longer than a minute, you realize, oh, I actually don't really want what the outcome of that would be. You know, them noticing my body. Yeah. Actually not the outcome I want.
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Ashley
Yeah.
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Sadie Robertson
I actually want a good relationship where me and this person have a lot more than just a physical attraction. And that's the kind of person you're going to want to marry anyways. So I think, you know, again, the pattern of the world, you don't stop and think about that long enough. Then when you do, you're like, actually, it's not worth it. You know, it's just not worth it. But I love how you guys approach things like that.
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Ashley
Yeah.
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Sadie Robertson
Gosh, I'm looking at all my little notes from things that I've learned from y'. All.
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Ashley
Oh, you're so sweet.
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Sadie Robertson
It's true. It's so true. Oh, one topic on the show, I love that it showed was your desire to lead worship. Yeah. And I mean, you're very good, Very talented. The one song you put out, like, every was listening to, all of a sudden it was like, whenever I started following y', all and you were like, I don't know why this song is all of a sudden picking up so much, but, like, God's using it. Probably because the show. Because as soon as I watched it, I looked up your Spotify. Like, what Worship Songs that she put out because, like, that's what you do. It's like, oh, she wants to worship. She put a song. I'm gonna go look. So hopefully that's what people have done. But what was cool, it was. It was that wrestle with, like, you wanted something so bad, but it wasn't really happening yet. And again, people look at you and they go, it's happening for you. But it's like, no. There's this one thing in my heart that I really desire that isn't. I mean, me and my friend talked about that recently. I was like, God has done so much in my life. If he didn't do another thing, I'm forever grateful. But there's this one area that I actually feel like he put in me and created me for that I haven't gotten to yet. Like, I've tried, hasn't. Like, it just. The door is not open yet for whatever reason. And that can be really hard, you know, because you're like, you're standing at the door like you're knocking. You're ready. You're like, God, you put this in me. Why'd you put this in me? And the door's not opening and it just kind of felt like you were walking through that. Where are you at with all that as far as desiring, worship, leading, and. Yeah. What you're doing with it.
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Ally
Oh, Sadie, you, like, honestly described that so perfectly. Because I feel like that's been just the story of my life with my singing is like, I. Yeah, I really feel like the Lord has given me such a love for singing. I've been singing since I can remember.
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Ashley
Like, first vine, actually, My first vine.
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Ally
That ever went viral was actually me singing. And my sister was. I think she was either playing guitar or low key beatboxing.
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Ashley
We had laid out either one six.
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Ally
Second cover that we did, and it went off. Yeah. Yeah. And I. Even When I was 16, I auditioned for American Idol, and when I was 18, I auditioned for the Voice, but I didn't get past the first because there's like a few rounds before you even get to the judges online, on, you know, tv. And I think that was like, really discouraging for me at the time. Like, when I was young, I was like, I'm gonna be a singer. Like, that's. I just. That was my dream. And so over time, and I like, grew up doing choir and all of that in high school and stuff, but over time, I just got really discouraged. I got really insecure about my voice. I had people telling me that it wasn't good enough. It wasn't anything special. And so when you hear that so much, you just start to believe it, you know? And especially when things aren't, like, really happening, you're like, okay, maybe this was just like a dream that I made up. Like, I don't know, you know, or maybe I think I sound better than I am. I think that was a big fear too, where I was like, am I one of those people who, like, are. You know, we love them, but, like, they're tone deaf and they can't sing and they think they can, you know, you see it on American Idol. They, like, set these people up and they.
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Sadie Robertson
But that's always so bad. And you're like, why didn't your family not tell you? Sometimes you just gotta learn the hard way.
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Ally
So, like, am I one of them? Like, so. Yeah, and I expressed that on the show where it still is just like this burning thing in me that has not left my heart. And I'll say I'm still kind of in that same place. I've reached out to my local church and there's a little bit of conversation right now about joining the worship team. But, like, honestly, there hasn't been a whole lot of traction with that. And so it's just a daily surrender, honestly, where I'm like, okay, God, I know that you've put this in me for a reason. And so you're giggling because.
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Sadie Robertson
Why are you giggling?
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Ashley
Whenever you're done, I'll share. Okay.
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Ally
So it's crazy because the Lord will use the church in such a way, like, where he'll just prophesy and he'll speak through his people, right? And so over the last couple of years, every once in a while, and, I mean, it'll be like a stranger that we've met off the street who just so happened to also love Jesus and is filled with the spirit and is insanely prophetic and goes, someone's a singer right here. Like, do you sing? And then there was.
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Ashley
Which one of you sings?
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Ally
And I'm like, it's probably me. And it's like, God will remind me. Like, I haven't forgotten about that.
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Sadie Robertson
Crazy. Sometimes I'm like, you gotta hold on to those things. Like, I mean, when people prophesy, sometimes you gotta let it go. Sometimes you're like, that wasn't from the Lord. You gotta discern that. But then sometimes you gotta hold on to it.
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Ally
It's way too specific where you're like. And it's when it keeps coming back, it's the same. You know, it's prophetic when it's like God will say the same thing through multiple people.
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Ashley
They're just, like, talking to each other.
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Ally
They're not talking to each other. They don't know each other.
- [24:42]
Sadie Robertson
You know, I think the thing that you have to watch for in those moments is not putting a timeline on it, you know, because that's the thing when people get disappointed, when I think God gives you those prophetic words to remind you, hey, I'm still in it. I still see you. I'm still there. I haven't forgotten. It's not time yet, but stay on course. One of my favorite chapters in the Bible, it's so random, but Ecclesiastes 11, it talks about how there are some things that are obvious. It says, you know, when a tree falls to the north or south, there it will lie. When a cloud's full of water, it's gonna rain. Obvious, it said, but there are other things that are not so obvious. And it even talks about the way that and babies formed in the womb and how God works and does things. And then in verse six, it says, but continue to sow your seed in the morning and don't be idle with your hands in the evening. And I love that because it's like, we don't know what's gonna happen. Some things are obvious and some things aren't. Some things are a little bit more mysterious because it's the way God works. But God told me to sow my seed in the morning, to be faithful with what he's entrusted me with, but open my hands in the evening and say, God, okay, I sowed my seed. I did what I could. I'm gonna keep, you know, singing. I'm gonna keep showing up at worship services. I'm gonna keep training my voice, but I'm not gonna be out of my hands in the evening. And if this looks different than I thought, that's okay. And then maybe 10 years from now, you'll look up and go, oh, well, you actually did have a plan this whole time. I mean, this is crazy, But I was 19 or 20, probably eight or nine years ago, and I went with a mentor of mine to Bethel to see one of her friends speak. And this was very overwhelming to me because I threw up. Very traditional. And I was like, bethel is a jerk.
- [26:23]
Ashley
I still haven't gone, but I heard.
- [26:24]
Sadie Robertson
I was like, whoa. And I love. I'm like, one thing I love about y', all, and I feel the same way, is like, when you're getting to know God and discovering God. Like, don't put anything off limits. And obviously use discernment in that. Don't be crazy. But, like. Like, if you're intimidated by the Holy Spirit and, like, what that looks like, don't just be like, I'm not about the Holy Spirit. If you don't understand tongues, don't just be like, I'm never gonna speak in tongues. Like, okay, God, if this is something you have and this is the way you work and you want to work in that way in my life, then, like, I'm open to it. I just want to know you, you know, like, don't be closed off to, like, a side of God that intimidates you. Yeah. So, you know, I go to Bethel, and I don't know much about how the Holy Spirit moves like this and whatnot. And I hadn't seen prophetic words like this. And I'm just chilling, and all of a sudden, this girl gets up on stage, and she says, girl, in the orange jacket, stand up. And I was wearing a very orange jacket.
- [27:17]
Ally
Anyone else?
- [27:18]
Sadie Robertson
Anyone else wearing another orange, orange jacket? Just me. Cool.
- [27:22]
Ally
Yours is, like, neon.
- [27:23]
Sadie Robertson
It was like, did you see the only orange. It was orange. And I'm like, so stand up. And she's like. Starts prophesying over my life. And. And she says, God's gonna do so much in your life. You're gonna have to be like Abraham and step out of the tent, look up at the stars and ask God for the faith to believe what he's gonna, like, walk you into. And she starts saying all this stuff. And then she says, do you sing? And I said, no. And then she said, I'm gonna ask you one more time. Do you sing? And I was like, yes. I don't know. But I really didn't. It wasn't, like, a huge desire in my heart, so it was kind of random. But I had such a heart for songwriting and worship like, that. And then she goes, we're going to sing your songs in this house. And it's so crazy because we started ELO worship, and Lo worship has been a journey that's taken, like, over six years to, like, get to even now. And we're just starting, essentially. But it's so cool because Jen Johnson has been to Ello Conference every year, and she, like, loves lo worship songs. And she literally has, like, helped us. Like, she's, like, amazing. And she's actually leading worship for baptisms this year at Lo Conference. And then Mitch Wong, who, you know, is a part of Bethel stuff. He sang with me on stage last year at LO Conference. And it's just crazy. Like, we just had a song we did with Aiden King. Like, I can't believe it. Like, the church is actually starting to sing these songs that I've gotten to be a part of writing and in the room for and believing for and praying over. And I'm like, what was that?
- [29:03]
Ally
In these moments, are you like, oh, my gosh. Orange jacket moment?
- [29:07]
Sadie Robertson
Yes. No, I know. That's what I'm thinking. I'm like. I'm like. Because it is a surprise to me. But also, I'm like, but God said it. You know, But God said it. And I think that kind of helped me as I started because again, you look around, you're like, everybody feels more talented than you. Everybody seems like they're, you know, you're like, what's special about this? And then you have to realize, like, it really isn't. The things that make it aren't just, like, the best voice. It's again, like, who you are. It's your story that you have to tell. It's your originality. It's how when God knit you together in your mother's womb and spoke your name over you and had the plans that he had for you, like, it was. It was just your voice. It's something about it that connects with people and relates to people. And I think people aren't just always into being impressed. They don't need that. They want to feel a connection to someone. So you don't have to have the best voice in the world. You have a voice that connects with somebody and inspires them or testifies over them or whatever it is. And so I think for me, that was just such a cool word back in the day that I kind of held onto because she asked me again, like, when I said no, she's like, I'm ask you again. Like, God clearly wanted me to believe in it enough to go, yeah, okay, let's see what you can do with this. And then, you know, from nine years ago to today, seeing what God's done is amazing. But there's still things in my heart that I'm like, when is that going to come into play? What is that going to look like? But don't spend too much time thinking about the win. Just do what you're doing. And then one day you'll look up and go, whoa. Yeah, whoa. Well, that's key.
- [30:36]
Ashley
I love how you're like, work with what's in your hands.
- [30:39]
Sadie Robertson
Be faithful.
- [30:40]
Ashley
Like, up until that point when you got the word, and then you see Jen Johnson is singing. It's like you were faithful with the dreams.
- [30:48]
Sadie Robertson
It's not. Not working. It's not just waiting. It's working in the waiting, in obedience.
- [30:52]
Ashley
Like, God was dropping nuggets. Like, all right, Sadie, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do this this season. We're gonna start elo worship. And you had to be faithful to do that. And doing is. Ally sings sometimes is on TikTok anyway, so how do we get there? How do we start the. But that's you being faithful. God said, I've given you a dream. How can we be faithful? What can we do? With what's in your hands?
- [31:18]
Sadie Robertson
Yeah.
- [31:18]
Ally
So, yeah, I kind of, like, hit. It's funny, because me and the Lord have actually done this a few times, so he's kind of like, all right, let's just do what we always do, you know? And so I was like, okay, I'm not joining a worship team right now. I don't know. It's just not happening. I know three chords on my guitar. God, I don't have any stages to sing on. That's fine. But he's like. But then there's the Internet. He's like, you've always done this Al.
- [31:39]
Sadie Robertson
That you have. You're right.
- [31:41]
Ally
And I've done it a few times, and I can do it again. And so I said, all right, I'm gonna start a TikTok page where I only sing on it. And I'm just.
- [31:49]
Sadie Robertson
Whatever.
- [31:50]
Ally
It's free. Like, I'm, like, singing covers. I'm singing worship songs. I'm just, like, putting my phone up in the kitchen, and I'm just like, bleh. And it's called Ali sings sometimes. And so that's what I'm doing with my voice. I'm singing on the Internet.
- [32:02]
Sadie Robertson
Well, you don't know what that's gonna lead to, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, that might be the door that someone from the worship is like, oh, you gotta come lead worship here. You know? And it's like God's. God's doing something in you right now that's, like, gonna produce so much more fruit than if you, like, were to get the other opportunity, you know? And I think part of that's just humility and going, okay, I'm just gonna use what I have where I have it, when people tell me, like, oh, I want to do what you do. And I'm like, like, what aspect? You know? Because if you want to share the gospel with people, then, like, you can do that anywhere. Like, you don't have to have a microphone or a podcast or a stage. I'm like, in fact, I was doing this in high school with Bible studies and. Because that's what I love to do. And so it's like, just start with what you have, where you're at, and work towards it and train and get better at it. I mean, when I look back at some of the first things I did, that's, like, so embarrassing. You're like, oh, my gosh. Like, then, like, you just had to keep it up there because it's part of the journey, you know?
- [33:01]
Ally
Like, this is a part of the testimony.
- [33:03]
Sadie Robertson
It's part of the testimony, you know, and it's where God had me then, and it's what he did in me then. And I think that. I think whenever you're young and you. I think people think it takes, like, a lot of confidence to start the TikTok page or to write the book. And I think, yes, it takes confidence, but I think. Think equally, it takes humility to know that I'm not where I want to be and I'm not the best it's gonna be. And I don't know as much as I wish I did, but I have to start somewhere.
- [33:32]
Ally
But am I gonna do.
- [33:32]
Sadie Robertson
This is what I do know, and this is what I do have. And I think growing up in, like, the public eye, I've just realized it because so many things, like, in my flesh feel embarrassing. Like, oh, it's kind of embarrassing that everybody saw that, but I'm like, but that was where I was at, and that was what I had, and that's what the Lord did. And it's cool to see how he continues to refine you and takes you. And again, it shows other people how they can grow. The first not conference we did, but lo event we ever did was in Nashville. It was in 2016, so about 10 years ago almost. And it was just so funny because it was so scrappy. We did not. I knew nothing what I was doing. I just had a vision for it. And I grew up really traditional in my background, and I never had seen a woman preach before, and I actually didn't even think women should preach. And. But yet God was, like, calling me to this thing, and I was like, well, how do I do that if I don't really think I can preach? And blah, blah. And so anyways, I did skits and monologues on stage at this first event because in our tradition, like, women could do, like, you know, we did, like, skits with the kids or stuff like that. And I was like a teenager, so I was used to that because I did, like, Bible hour and camp and that kind of stuff. So we have like 4,000 people show up to Lipscomb arena, and I'm up there doing a skit and a monologue. Know, but it's like, it's what I had where I was. And now God's done a lot in my life, and I was open to understanding him in a different way, in a bigger way. And I finally felt the freedom to do what he created me to do. And it's amazing, but, like, hey, praise God for the skit, you know, for the monologue. Got me to where I'm at now. So, yeah, you got to start somewhere. And it's beautiful. I. I can't wait to see how your journey of worship continues to grow. And you do have a beautiful voice, so I'm glad you overcame the lies of people being rude. I want to talk to y', all, too, about Yalls just living. You know, we've talked. I just asked you if you're dating someone. You're like, no, but you're open to it and that kind of thing. So many girls out there desiring a spouse. So many girls out there, like, ready to meet their husband. And that's something that you really do have to wait in the Lord's timing. And it can feel so frustrating because you're like, why is this door not opening? Like, where are you? You're trying everything. How do you find peace in this time of your life? And what has God been speaking to you in that? Okay, fam. Real talk. If I could wrap myself up in clouds, I would. But until then, miracle sheets are pretty much the best thing ever. These aren't your average sheets, y'. All. They actually are inspired by NASA and made with silver infused fabric that helps regulate body temperature and Prevent up to 99.7% of bacteria growth. So not only do they help you stay cleaner up to three times longer, but they also help you sleep cool and comfy every single night. So say goodbye to waking up in the middle of the night sweaty or shivering. And because they help prevent so much bacteria buildup, they actually work miracles on your skin. So no more sleeping in yesterday's germs. Plus, they're just super dreamy, cozy, cool, and somehow softer with every wash. I don't know how sheets could level up like this, but here we are. Are we Love Miracle sheets, Christian. I have been using them for years and won't be looking back. They're amazing. They feel good. They stay clean. I mean, what is not to love? Upgrade your sleep as the weather cools down. Go to try miracle.com wo to try miracle made sheets today. And whether you're buying them for yourself or as a gift for a loved one, if you order today, you can save over 40% off. And if you use my promo code Whoa. At checkout, you'll get a free three piece towel set and save an extra 20%. Miracle is so confident in their product, it's back with a 30 day money back guarantee. So if you aren't 100 satisfied, you actually can get a full refund. Upgrade your sleep with Miracle made. Go to trymiracle.com Whoa. And use the code Whoa. To claim your free three piece towel set and save over 40% off. Again, that's trymiracle.com Whoa to treat yourself.
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Ashley
Oh, wow. Well, it's definitely been a journey and it's the number one desire I have and it has not happened. And even just hearing you guys talk, it's like, it's real. I've had to just lay down my timing and if it were up to me, I would have gotten married like four years ago. You know, I feel like the biggest thing that's helped me is surrender and prayer. Just like every time I'm like, lord, what are you doing? He just reminds me through prayer like, I've got you, I've got you. And. And sometimes it's hard because a lot of people don't believe that God can write your love story. A lot of people don't believe that. Even Christians are like, so what are we doing about this area? And I'm like, I just believe God's gonna do it. And that's crazy for some people to believe, but it's still such a wrestle. Like, there's some days where I'm like, God, did you forget? Like, did you forget about all these prayers? And there's been times where I fasted and I've prayed and I'm like, it's coming. And then, then the year went by and nothing happened. And I'm like, wow. So it's been really hard.
- [38:45]
Sadie Robertson
Yeah, it's actually like so good and refreshing to hear you say that on a podcast because I hear all my friends say that in real life, but I feel like a lot of times when people get on like a podcast or even when they're a great writer like you, you want to like, go ahead and write, like, the good message in it and, like, the uplifting part of it and, like, make you feel better. But it's actually just really honest to say no. I fasted and prayed and thought it was going to be here and thought it was going to be then, thought it was going to be now, thought it was going to be four years. And it's really hard that it hasn't happened yet. But I trust the Lord, and that's okay to just say, and that's it. Like, there's not like a bow on top. There's not like a cherry on top. It's like.
- [39:21]
Ashley
And I still cry about it sometimes.
- [39:23]
Sadie Robertson
And I still cry about it. And that's where I'm at.
- [39:25]
Ally
Those two things can still live in the same room.
- [39:27]
Sadie Robertson
Oh, my gosh. Yes, they do live in the same room. And it's a good thing that they live in the same room, because a lot of people don't put the other part in the room, the trusting the Lord part. And then you're just sad, you know? And I think, like, that that is a really hard thing to navigate. But I love that you said, like, people don't believe God writes your love stories, and I believe he does, and he's going to write a good one. Y' all mentioned that you wanted to ask me a question about that, and I'm so interested to hear what it was.
- [39:55]
Ally
Yeah, we were talking last night about it. We were like, I wonder if we should just ask Sadie this on the podcast.
- [39:59]
Ashley
Well, because I was like, you go ahead, actually.
- [40:02]
Sadie Robertson
Well, well.
- [40:02]
Ashley
Cause I'll start. I'll start this. So. So here I was. I was like, you know what? I was like, I don't know how we were talking about this. I started talking about all the benefits of being single. I was like, I'm just gonna think about it.
- [40:13]
Sadie Robertson
I love your pros and cons.
- [40:15]
Ally
It's really took a video of it.
- [40:17]
Ashley
And I didn't even know she was recording me, but I was like, okay.
- [40:20]
Ally
We'Re gonna talk through what are some of the pros to being single right now.
- [40:24]
Ashley
And I'm like, literally, like, laying down. I'm, like, half asleep. I'm like, so, I can do this. I can do that. But anyway, then Allie was like, you know what? We should talk to Sadie about this tomorrow, too, so you can ask the question.
- [40:36]
Sadie Robertson
Yeah, I mean, I basically was like.
- [40:38]
Ally
I feel like whenever we exit a season, we look back on that previous season and think, dang, I really wish that I had, like, seen More of that or, like, recognized more of that or. I wish I had more, like, eyes to appreciate this thing. And so, obviously, with you being in a season of, like, being a full mommy and a wife and all of this, kiddo.
- [40:58]
Ashley
Yeah.
- [41:00]
Ally
I feel like the question we could ask is, like, are there things from your singleness where you were just, like, it was such a burden at the time, but you're kind of like, dang, I actually wish I appreciated this more.
- [41:12]
Sadie Robertson
Yes, 100%. I love this question.
- [41:15]
Ashley
I'm gonna take notes, by the way.
- [41:16]
Sadie Robertson
Okay? Take notes. This is the funny thing. People used to. You know, you go to conferences or events, and people, they ask you advice, and you're. I don't know if y' all feel this, but sometimes people ask you advice, you're like, like, oh, don't do what I did. Like, you know, you're like, I don't know if I'm the one you should ask about that. Like, maybe let's talk about something else. But I think the beauty is in that sometimes when you go, man, I think a lot of times you can teach on things based off of something that the Lord has given you and something you feel confident, but a lot of times you can teach off things that you didn't do really well that the Lord refined you in and that you learn from. And singleness is one of those things that I. I did not do well. And looking back, it's. It's a time of your life, you know, once you get married, like, that ship has sailed, you know, like, that time you're not getting back. And what I did so poorly in it is I was just, like, striving so hard throughout all of singleness to find my husband and, like, get into that relationship. So I never, like, appreciated it for what it was and the timing of life that it was because I had a timeline in my head. Like, I want to get married young, and I wanted. So it's, like, half to happen. And I dated people I should not have dated, stated relationships longer than I should have, and just was not the best version of me at all because I was so obsessed with the idea of, like, marriage. And so I so regret that because I hurt other people in doing that. You know, I hurt the guys that I dated and missed a lot of just, like, really sweet time that I could have just had with my friends. Because when I look back at that time, thankfully, the Lord has taken away the negative because I think for a little while, kind of beat myself up about the shot. Yeah, I was Like, I wish I didn't do that. Like why did I? But then I'm like, okay, but God, so many good things happened during that season. I met some of my best friends that will be my best friends for life. They're like my sisters, Lani, Sarah and Gracie. Like we lived together. We just did the most fun and stupid and just like sisterhood girl things you can imagine. We totally danced every night. We totally ran laps around our kitchen table whenever someone had a praise report. Like we did like it all and it was just fun. And I'm like, I wish I would have leaned into that more and just appreciated my friendships. And the time that I had to even read the word. I mean, I remember a friend of mine who was single and I'm married and had at least honey at this point I don't think I had Haven yet. And she would always post on her social media like her morning times, like, oh, and I read for two hours this morning and I believe and like it was really inspiring. But I was also like, oh my gosh, like I don't, my life doesn't look like that at all. Like I did not read like that. When would I have the time to do that? Like, like it was just like crazy. And I kind of like compared myself to her and felt like I need to get my life a little bit more together because I wasn't reading as much and doing as much. And then it was really cool cuz I never told her that. And then she ended up coming and staying at our house and she goes, wow, like we're the same age and but our life looks so different. She's like, I can't even imagine. She starts talking about how she can't imagine like being a mom and what that would look like and blah blah. And it was just cool to see like her feel a way about me that I felt about her in like a different way. And I was thinking about that because in your time in singleness, you really don't have. I mean Paul says it, he's like, unless you burn with passion, it's better not to get married. Because then your heart's not divided because you have a heart solely for the Lord. So you get to like fully read, fully study, fully learn about who he is, fully pray. Whenever you want to go on a trip, go on a trip. Whenever you want to feel called to do something, you do it, do something, go do it. You want to go have dinner, go have dinner. You want to go do this. And like that just like so changes when you get married and you have kids, like your responsibility changes, your time changes, your priorities change. And I remember wrestling with even that passage of scripture when Christian and I started dating, because at this point I actually had become content with the Lord and.
- [45:21]
Christian
What is up y'?
- [45:22]
Sadie Robertson
All?
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Christian
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- [47:20]
Sadie Robertson
And of course, that's, like, how God does things. And we're like, three months. No, we were more than that. We're, like, five months into our relationship. And I had really already fallen in love with Christian. Like, I already told him I loved him, he loved me, me. But all of a sudden, I was, like, starting to realize, man, okay, if we get married and if this happens, like, what is this? You know, does this take me away from the Lord? Does this lead me closer to the Lord? And so we took three days to, like, not talk that much and just pray. And I just remember praying and going on prayer walks and being like, lord, I don't want my heart to be divided. Like, I love you. And I've gotten to the point in my life where I really do trust you.
- [48:01]
Ashley
And.
- [48:01]
Sadie Robertson
And if it's not Christian, even though I love him so much, he has done nothing for it to not be him. But if it's not him, for whatever reason, then I need you to tell me, like, now. Like, give me either a lack of peace or more peace to pursue the relationship. And after those three days, I felt so much peace that with Christian, we could do more for the kingdom than apart. Like, I really felt like with him, we could do more with him. I felt stronger in my faith. I felt stronger as just a daughter of God. I'd learned so much more about God's character through the way Christian loved me. And I was like, okay, this is my guy, you know? And Christian actually said from the first, like, real deep conversation we had, he was like, sadie, if it's a win for you and a win for the kingdom, it will always be a win for me. And, like, his heart to say that made me realize, like, just how our relationship, God really was going to be in the center of it. And so I'm so thankful I took those three days to pray. And I'm so thankful I felt that confirmation from the Lord, because in our relationship, I've never doubted that that marriage was right for me and that Christian is the guy for me. And being a mom is the greatest gift and the joy of my entire life. And, like, I am so thankful. So do I miss a singleness? No. But I do look back and go, there was so much there I wish I treasured more because it was such a gift. It was such a Fun time of life, honestly. And. And I don't have those things that I had then that I have now. My life looks totally different. I do not have quiet mornings most of the time. I do not have tons of time to read and do all this stuff. But what I. But I love God more now than I did then, you know, And I feel so filled in that. So I don't know if that fully answers the question other than to give my real life experience, you know, But I think, you know, enjoying it for what it is, not taking those things for granted. And then when you do find the one, like, taking a moment to go, like, with the Lord. Is this right? Because then you won't look back and go, like, oh, I missed that season so much, you know, Because I think some people do that. Like, they get married and they have this expectation for a marriage is going to be like. And then they're like, oh, actually, that was more fun. Yeah. It's not about it being like, more fun or less fun or more busier. Less busier, more stressful or less stressful. It's like what God has for you in the season you're in. Appreciating it. I try to do that more now than I did when I was single. That's good.
- [50:33]
Ashley
And it's kind of back to that theme of, like, whatever is in your hands, make the most of it wherever you are, make. So if you're single, make the most of it. Don't try to, like, wish you were somewhere else. Or if you're married, like, make the most of it. If you have children, make the most of it wherever you are.
- [50:50]
Sadie Robertson
Everybody says this. When you have kids, it goes so fast. It goes so fast. And it kind of like, it's an. It's advice that's, like, good and bad because you hear it and you're like, okay, now I realize it goes fast, but what do I do about it? You know, because you. Whenever you first have your kid, you really don't realize how fast it goes. Everyone's telling you that. And you're like, okay, yeah, yeah. And those first, like, three months of postpartum, you're like, this is not going fast. This is so hard. Everything feels hard. You know, Honey, like, was super colicky, never stop crying, your body hurts. It's like, blah. And I was just like, I don't believe anyone who just said this. Flies by. And Now Honey is 4 years old and Haven is 2, and I have a third baby, and I'm like, what? Like, it. What? It goes so fast. And with Honey, I didn't take that much of maternity leave with Haven. I did with this one. I'm taking a bigger one. Because you realize that time is so, so sacred. Like, I. It's so funny. My husband the other night was like, oh, I'm not ready to be getting up all through the night. I was like, really? I kind of am. Like, I'm just excited about that because I've realized how fast it goes. And I'm like, with Honey, like, I miss that, you know, Even though it was so hard in the moment. And literally, I would just start crying when she was crying because I didn't know what I was doing. And I was just like, this is so overwhelming. But, like, oh, my gosh, what a joy to rock my child to sleep. And now I get to do that again. So now I, like, appreciate even the hard things, and I'm, like, excited for, like, where's, like, a crying baby on the plane. He's like, are you ready for it? I'm like, I am. I'm ready for it. Even though the first time when Honey was crying on the plane, I was, like, so overwhelmed by it. And so, yeah, I think that that's a good life lesson. With kids, you get more tries. With singleness, you get one, you know, and so appreciate where you're at is so important.
- [52:37]
Ashley
How did you know that Christian was.
- [52:39]
Sadie Robertson
The one that actually kind of came from him saying what he said about if it's a win for you. Because I had been in all these different relationships, and I. I really clung to people, too. You talked about, like, people being your. They were like, my God foundation and your God same. Like, codependency. Like, I felt like I needed someone always. You know, I always wanted to be texting someone or calling someone or going on date someone. Like, I just didn't want to be alone. And I found a lot of security in that. But with that, not the best relationships. And I felt. And several relationships I was in that they were a little bit intimidated by what I did. And so I would just not talk about it, what I did, or I would, like, dumb it down or, like, try to, like, not make them feel like this was happening. I don't know. And so when I met Christian, I started to do that, like, naturally, just, like, by default. Default.
- [53:37]
Ally
I know how this goes.
- [53:38]
Sadie Robertson
So I was just like, I'm not gonna hype it up. Yeah, yourself.
- [53:42]
Ashley
Smaller.
- [53:42]
Sadie Robertson
Yes. Because I didn't want him to feel insecure or jealous or whatever. Yeah. And so we were going On a tour. This is before we did conferences, we did the Ella tour, and we were going to, like, 20 different cities, and it was going to be all fall, and it was like me and Christian had met that summer. So right before we go on tour, I was like, okay, I think I'm just going to break up with him because I don't want him to feel like. I don't know. I was just like, I don't want him to have to date me, which is so in your head, girl. I was so in my head. So real, though, because I was like, this is just gonna be annoying, and I'm gonna be gone all the time. A lot for him. College. I want him to have fun. Like, it was just this thing. And so I called him because we were, like, long distance, and we'd only been on a couple dates, so I didn't feel like I was. We actually. Yeah. Because he came to Nashville, like, one time. Where was he been talking? He lived in Auburn because he went to Auburn. So I didn't feel like it was terrible to call. We weren't there that. That serious yet. And I was like, hey. So I just wanted to, like, just tell you, like, you did nothing wrong and you're so awesome and, like, all this stuff. And I'm like, but I'm about to go on tour, and I just would feel, like, so bad about how much I would be gone. And I want you to really, like, have a good year in college, and I don't want you to feel like you have to come up to Nashville and blah, blah. And I was like, and I'm just really sorry that this is kind of how my life is. Is. And he stopped me. He was like, what? He's like, stop talking. Which I loved. And then he said, never apologize for what God is doing in your life. And I was like. It, like, literally shocked me. I remember being on the phone being like, yeah, Because I was always apologizing for what God was doing in my life, and I was always dumbing it down and trying to, like. I would do it with my friends, too. I wouldn't share, like, any opportunities or things happening. And they would be like, why don't you tell us this? Like, we see it on your Instagram. And I'd be like, I don't. I don't know. Blah, blah, blah. And he was like, stop apologizing for what God's doing your life. And he was like, sadie, if it is a win for you, and if it is a win for the kingdom, then it's going to be a win for me. So if you going on this tour is a win for you and it's a win for God, then, like, that's a win for me. And I was like, you're my husband.
- [55:52]
Ashley
Okay, never mind.
- [55:53]
Sadie Robertson
Forget what I was saying.
- [55:54]
Ally
I was not about to break up with you.
- [55:56]
Sadie Robertson
And when are we getting married? When are we having babies? And so I literally changed the subject. And it's so funny because. Because I was telling dump him. And I was telling that story this year, and Christian said you were breaking up with me. I was like, you didn't know? I've told that story so many times. I guess he's just never been in the room. I never put two and two together. I never knew I was breaking up with him. I was like, oh, I was straight up breaking up with you. He's like, what? He's like, good thing I didn't know that, or I might not. I might have never said that. I was like, that's crazy. I guess I was just communicating very poorly that day because normally I can really get across a message, but I failed that day. It was really great. No, it was the Lord. It was the Lord. I'm like, thankfully, I fumbled and was super nervous, so it is really cool. I mean, I think that's the thing when you're pursuing the Lord, you know, as intentionally as you guys are. You want a man who, you know is running the same race, like, right beside you and not intimidated by it, and can lift you up and support you. And that's one of the coolest things because people have said to Christian, you know, being Sadie's husband is that horrible. And it's so cool because, like, from the very beginning, he was like, no. Like, this is what. Like, God has allowed me to come and help her steward. And I always say, like, I truly could not have done all this without Christian as just a rock. Like, has he. Like, he hasn't done, like, specific things, like, he's not speaking on the stage beside me, but, like, he's holding me up. Like, he's praying for me. He's holding me up. He's gone through. He's hurt my method messages five times before I've ever preached him. Like, he's, like, right there with me alongside the whole thing and parenting alongside of me, and I really couldn't do it without him. And, you know, I used to really, really struggle with anxiety, and I really don't anymore. And I really attribute that so much to our relationship, because when I think back to when I stopped, it was when we got married, you know, like, so just having that person so y' all will know he's the one. When he's building you up, up, bringing you closer to the Lord, when he's reminding you of who you are and treasuring you for who you are and you don't feel like you have to shrink down, but you actually are, like, being held up.
- [58:00]
Ashley
Yes.
- [58:00]
Sadie Robertson
Like, it's. It's such a gift. It is such a gift. And y' all are gonna. That person's gonna come into your life, cuz you're praying for it and believing for it, and you're those people. This has been so fun, y'. All. I love a girl chat. Same and just girl chat with girls who, like, uplift you. I. I told y' all this before the podcast started, but this morning I got up early and watched both of Yalls testimonies and your videos and I was like, it is nine o' clock and I feel awesome about my day and about who I am and feel and like, that is. That's such a gift that just the overflow of what you guys bring in, the words that you guys say, they're truly life, you know, you're speaking life and I feel so built up and I'm so grateful that you came on my podcast and shared this with our listeners. You guys are huge blessings and just cheering all on and every single thing God put on your heart to do.
- [58:49]
Ashley
Thank you. Thank you. We adore you. We're so thankful to be here. And we just love what you're doing with Ella. We love what you're doing with your pod, like, everything and just. I just honor you with everything you have to steward. You're steering it so well.
- [59:04]
Sadie Robertson
Thank you, friend. That's so sweet. Y' all are the best. It's the truth. Y' all are the best. I'm like, thinking about Yalls little coffee date and I'm like, can we be best friends now? Does this make us best friends too? Yes, immediately. I love it. Y' all are awesome. That was so good, Sam.