Our Favorite Advice From This Year’s Guests - Part 1 | Sadie, Christian, Bella & John Luke

Summary

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Episode Overview

Episode Title: Our Favorite Advice From This Year’s Guests - Part 1
Podcast: WHOA That's Good
Host: Sadie Robertson Huff
Guests: Christian Huff, Bella Robertson, John Luke Robertson
Release Date: December 10, 2025

In this special year-end recap, Sadie gathers with her husband Christian, sister Bella, and brother John Luke to reflect on the most impactful and memorable advice shared by guests throughout the year on the "WHOA That's Good" podcast. In a relaxed, family-centric conversation, they revisit key themes—especially love, marriage, discernment, and authenticity—interspersed with their own stories and candid conversations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Value of Unconditional Love in Relationships

• Preston Perry’s Advice:
  “If God gave me a spouse that met my every condition, I would never learn how to love unconditionally.” (05:30)
• The family talks about how relationships challenge and grow you, emphasizing that loving someone who isn’t perfect is what teaches true, Christ-like unconditional love.
• John Luke:
  “Whoever you’re marrying is gonna change... We’ve had to fall in love with each other over and over again while we go through things... That commitment... has to encompass all of those changes.” (09:42)
• Sadie and Christian reflect on how the "bumps in the road" (pregnancy, postpartum, family changes) deepen their love and strengthen their marriage.

2. Discernment and the Commitment Decision

• Phil Wickham & Christian Stanfield’s Mentor's Questions:
  “Does she love Jesus? Does she make you love Jesus more? Do you think she’s pretty? Do you want to hang out with her every day? Do you trust her to raise your kids?” (13:17)
• Sadie notes the value of simplifying major life decisions into core questions rather than overthinking or worrying about "missing out" on a better option.
• On Discerning God's Voice (Pete Richardson’s Advice):
  “If you learn to discern the voice of your Father, God, you will be able to navigate anything... Go on a 30-minute walk and ask God what he wants you to do.” (15:23)
• Bella shares about finding peace and confidence through prayer and listening to God rather than seeking a sign or relying only on feelings.

3. The Importance of Genuine Friendship in Both Romance and Life

• John Luke likens evaluating new relationships—including friends, spouses, and even job candidates—to identifying essential qualities: humility, ambition, emotional regulation, and similarity of values. (27:10-28:31)
• The group discusses taking time to truly know someone, emphasizing the importance of seeing people in all emotional situations before committing.

4. Red Flags & Family Involvement

• Bella: “If you sit down with a guy and the first thing they do is just complain about their exes... you’re gonna be the next one they’re talking about like that.” (31:01)
• They all underline the significance of observing patterns and asking family and friends for their perspective on a partner.

5. Authenticity vs. Performing for Social Media

• John Crist’s Advice:
  “If I get into the headspace of ‘I’m only doing this so the algorithm will like it, or so people will think I’m funny, then I’m done.’” (32:54)
• The discussion explores the pressures of social media, warning about drifting from your authentic self to fit a trend or public persona.
• Sadie: “If you start feeding that, you’ll start to change who you are... you have to keep up with an image you created of yourself.” (32:54)
• The family illustrates with examples from their own lives and observations, highlighting the beauty and power of owning your unique style, talents, and personality.

6. Stepping Away from the Internet & Social Media Boundaries

• Lacey Abercrombie’s Advice: “Log off the Internet.” (43:47)
• The group openly discusses struggles with the pressure to post, anxiety triggered by engagement metrics, and the value of setting boundaries for mental health—whether by deleting apps or limiting screen time.
• John Luke: “If you’re consuming, you’re not creating.” (51:38)
• They agree that breaks from social media bring clarity and intention, allowing them to return healthier and with better boundaries.

7. When Hobbies Become Work

• John Luke shares about his journey with opening and eventually selling coffee shops, illustrating the tension between loving your craft and the weight of business responsibility. (55:54)
• Bella: Recognizes that many careers (especially in the social media world) start out as hobbies and become jobs, sometimes taking away the original joy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Preston Perry's Wisdom:
  "If God gave me a spouse that met my every condition, I would never learn how to love unconditionally." – Sadie quoting Preston Perry (05:30)
• John Luke on Change in Marriage:
  "Whoever you’re marrying is gonna change... That commitment has to be able to encompass all of those changes you have as a person." (09:42)
• Mentor’s Core Questions:
  "Does she love Jesus? Does she make you love Jesus more? Do you want to hang out with her every day?" – Sadie quoting Phil Wickham’s mentor (13:34)
• On Discernment:
  "Go on a 30-minute walk and ask God what he wants you to do." (15:23)
• On Authenticity:
  "If I get into the headspace of... only doing this for the algorithm... I got to stay in the zone of, I think it’s funny – this is who I am, this is what I’m putting out there." – Sadie on John Crist’s advice (32:54)
• Creative Output:
  "If you’re consuming, you’re not creating. I’ve watched a hundred hours on making something out of leather but I haven’t actually made anything." – John Luke (51:38)
• Boundaries with Social Media:
  "Putting some great things on your story, and I’m like, this is a main page thing... I have anxiety around it... I think a lot of people probably feel that way with social media because the algorithm does put pressure on you." – Bella (46:29)
• Summary Mantra:
  "Live original." – Bella & Sadie (43:42)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Opening banter & family dynamics: 01:08–05:00
• Best marriage advice from Preston Perry: 05:16–11:41
• Key commitment questions from Phil Wickham’s mentor: 13:17–15:15
• Discerning God’s voice & peace in decision making: 15:12–20:57
• Qualities to look for in partners, friends, or hires: 27:10–29:18
• Red flags, family input, and workplace parallels: 31:01–32:54
• Staying true to yourself in a “trend” culture: 32:54–36:55
• The cost & benefit of social media break: 43:47–47:21
• The hobby-to-job disconnect: 55:54–57:54
• Episode wraps up and preview for Part 2: 57:54

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode is candid and familial, full of humor, supportive teasing, and heartfelt reflection. Sadie’s tone remains light yet sincere, while each family member brings honest vulnerability and practical wisdom. The mood is nostalgic, grateful, and hopeful for those seeking either relationship wisdom or greater authenticity in their lives and work.

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Summary

This episode of "WHOA That's Good" encourages listeners to value authenticity, embrace the mess and beauty of real relationships, listen for God’s guidance in key moments, and courageously log off when the noise gets too loud. By sharing both guest highlights and their own unscripted experiences, Sadie, Christian, Bella, and John Luke offer honest reassurance and a powerful call: live original and love with commitment.

Stay tuned for Part 2, where even more profound and practical advice from this year’s guests will be celebrated!

Transcript

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[C]

What's up, everybody? Happy woe. That's good. Wednesday. This is our recap episode for all the incredible advice we've gotten all year long. I think we've done this kind of year recap. I mean, at least for the past couple years. And I think you guys were my guests in the past on it too. And it just keeps working so well. And it's one of my favorite things to do to get to be in the studio with John, Luke, and Bella and Christian.

[D]

Am I still considered a guest or am I, like, considered a co host now?

[A]

Oh.

[D]

Well, you said guests. You didn't include me in the guest.

[B]

Co host is, like, really far.

[C]

Well, he'd be acting like a co host showing up late today, walking in, roasting you, Bella. And then Bella, hit him with your.

[D]

Don't act like. Don't act like. Y' all ready to go when I walked in.

[B]

You don't have to say that on the podcast.

You don't have to expose me on the podcast.

[C]

Real life people need to know that you just called your brother in law.

[B]

A butthole before he was acting like one.

[D]

I was not. I was being sarcastic. And it came across to you as being a.

[B]

To you.

Okay.

[C]

Not the bee. I love your how you spell things out sometimes. It is very funny.

[D]

Thank you.

[C]

Okay, without further ado, we should probably hop on in because there's so much good advice that we've gotten this year. I always love this too, because I don't think you'll listen to my podcast.

[B]

I do. I listen to the one with family. I always listen to the ones with family.

[C]

That's actually sweet because you would think you would listen to the ones not families, since you hear us talk all the time.

[B]

No, I like to listen to the ones family I like to hear you'll say about me. Like last week's same.

[C]

I do talk about you.

[B]

I like to. Yeah, I like the ones with family.

[D]

So you only listen to the podcast. Podcast to hear what people say about you?

[B]

No, but I was just saying that because the last one I listened to, they happen to bring me up a lot of times.

[C]

So the last one you listen to, though, for reference, because it won't be at the same time when this comes out, was Will and Abby's.

[B]

No, no, it was Mary Kate.

[C]

Oh, Mary Kate. Nabi and I kept talking about how Bella and Jacob went stargazing on their first date, which apparently they did not. But it was what y' all planned.

[B]

It was. It was what he asked me to do. And then we never did. We went on a picnic.

[D]

Y' all were just making out the whole time.

[B]

Christian.

Coming for me today.

[D]

I'm just kidding.

[C]

Wait, okay, this does not have to do with this podcast, but, Jolie, what was you and Mary Kate's first date like? First real date.

[A]

For those just listening to the audio version. I just cut my eyes. I'll narrate my facial expressions.

No, this is just me wasting time while I think of what the answer was. And I can't think of it.

[C]

Hey, y' all been married for 10 years.

[A]

I know. 10 years. No, we did. We were on that trip. What we consider our first date was when we were on that trip to. You were there and we went.

[C]

That was when y' all established y' all were dating.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

80S of March. But I think it's pronounced ides of March. It was March 15th.

[A]

Yeah. That's when we started dating on the. It's of March. Yeah.

[C]

But we call it the Itties.

[A]

The Ities. And we do celebrate the Itties every year. The.

Our first day, I actually think we went to Waffle House. I think was our legitimate.

[C]

That would not surprise me. We went to Waffle House.

[D]

We'll have to ask Mary Kate. Yeah, next time she's in the podcast, you should ask her.

[C]

You know what's crazy to me? Like, now I think about my health, but in high school, I would go to Waffle House so often in the mornings and get a chocolate chip waffle with. With a Coke. If I did that now, I would feel so sick.

[D]

After you get a Waffle House before school.

[C]

Yeah. On Tuesdays. Game days again. On a game day, I would start my day off with coaches and a Coke. I'm like, just thinking about. Because now I think, like, okay, if I want to play good, I would eat something good and healthy for me to feel strong. Back then, I was like, I need a chocolate chip waffle and a Coke right now. And it was the best thing ever. And maybe we should do that on a Tuesday.

[D]

We should. That's why you played so good.

[C]

Maybe that's good advice. Okay. But for real, let's get to actually actual good advice for this year. All right. Episode one of last year, January 8th. Preston Perry was on the podcast. Talk about a strong start.

[D]

Very strong, sir.

[C]

And I love what he said. If God gave me a spouse that met my every condition, I would never learn how to love unconditionally.

Why are you laughing?

[A]

Sorry, my phone. My phone buzzed and Bella laughed at me.

[B]

No, I just looked at it because.

[A]

This is my first time on the podcast.

[B]

Yourself an amateur.

[A]

Okay, Sorry.

[C]

Okay. Well, that was really good advice. And one thing about Preston and Jackie, because they were on a couple times this year. They are so well spoken. It's wild, I think, because, like, they both are poets, and also she does rap. Like, they are so good with just their eloquent. Yeah, like, just their everyday conversations. Like, he just throws that out there like it's nothing, and it's so beautiful, and it's so good. From a poet, because you're a poet. Do you sometimes feel like you want.

[B]

To talk like that?

Like what?

[C]

Like, you know, like, this is what he said. Meet my every condition. I would never learn how to love unconditionally.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's beautiful.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Do you ever talk like that just for fun?

[B]

No, but I feel like for them, they talk for a living, and, like, they think through these things all the time. So, like, I feel like if maybe I was doing that more, then maybe I would think like that more.

[C]

But that's true.

[D]

But translation, what he means is God did not give me a robot.

[C]

I think we need to reset our tone because we're being too googly right now.

[D]

No, I'm being serious. That's what he's implying. He's basically saying someone that gave you everything you wanted, which is what a robot would do. No, I think press a button and it happens. Then, yes, you would never learn how to love unconditionally.

[B]

I think that's really good advice. Not what Christian said, but what he said. I think it's really good advice. I really do.

[C]

I actually think it's Beautiful.

[B]

That's so true. And obviously, like, we've all been married. I've been married four years, y', all. Five or six.

[C]

Almost six.

[B]

Almost six, ten. I feel like you learn so much about yourself and you grow so much being married. And everyone says, like, marriage is mirror and, like, you learn so much, and it's so true. I feel like you really grow a lot in your ability to love unconditionally because of that exact reason. So I think that's so true.

[C]

It's true. And it's really cool. We were talking about this yesterday how, like, the beautiful thing about relationship that you cannot get anywhere else. Like a robot, like, you know, people are starting relationships with AI now. And it's so sad and it's so weird, but it's like, the beauty of relationship and what makes. It's so, like, love be real and vulnerability means so much intimacy. All that is that you really know that person. You've overcome things with that person. And it's like, that cannot be traded for anything that this world can give you temporarily. Like, to really know someone and love someone and forgive someone and walk through life with someone is just, like, so special. And I think people are afraid of the bumps in the road. People are afraid of the hard things, but. But it truly is like those hard things that make you get to experience love in a way on this side of heaven that is so holy.

[D]

Yeah. I think the lie people believe is that if you did have a spouse that met your every condition, you'd be happier. And short term, that could maybe be true, but long term, yeah, it's the highs and the lows that you come out of hard things and you have those deeper moments that. Yeah. I do think you experience a deeper love when you go through hard things, when you don't see eye to eye and you actually have to work through real problems as humans.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

I think too, like, it's important to, like, flip that whole thing because it's like, as much as, yes, we learn to love unconditionally, you also are loved unconditionally, which is like, I feel like, what makes it so worth it, because not only are you loving someone through. Through, maybe, like, them not being perfect, you're also being loved the same way, which is. Which is the best gift you can be given.

[D]

There's the poet side of you.

[A]

Yeah. Thinking about that, the idea of unconditional love.

It'S really. I really understand now, after being married 10 years, why the. Our promise is till death drew us apart. Because if there's any kind of condition, you're gonna fail in it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And whoever you're marrying is gonna change. Like, Mary Kay and I have been married 10 years. I'm not the same person I was at 20. She's not the same person she was at 20. We've changed over the last 10 years, and we've had to fall in love with each other over and over again while we go through things and make mistakes and experiencing things and having points of weakness and points of strength. All of those experiences have changed us as people. And that commitment to love and to marriage has to be able to encompass all of those changes that you have as a person.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

It's so true. We were. The reason we were talking about this yesterday is because we're coming out of another postpartum. I guess I still am. It's only been three months, which is crazy, but it's like, you through nine months of pregnancy, and then you're postpartum, and then, like, we finally find the, like, your stride again. There's like, oh, pregnant again, and then postpartum, and then finally, like, okay. And then pregnant again and postpartum, and it's like, that's a lot of change in, like, your hormones and your life and your lifestyle and now adding kids to the mix and your body and your. All of the different things. And so those are certainly, like, conditions that go up and down, but, like, to be loved unconditionally in those seasons and, like, learn how to serve each other, learn how to love each other, love how. Learn how to be intentional, learn how to be selfless. Truly, you do come out of those on the other side of it, and you're like, oh, I love you so much more. And even though those are hard things sometimes and uncomfortable things, like, we wouldn't want to go back to our marriage before kids, because it's so much stronger now, even though it's different, you know? And so, yeah, I think that's a beautiful thing that he said. And definitely good point for us to.

[D]

Definitely good advice.

[C]

Definitely good advice.

[B]

Whoa.

[C]

That is so good.

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I'm going to skip a little bit because since we're kind of on the relationship train, we had Phil Wickham and Christian Stanfield, which was so fun. They were in town, they were doing a little concert. Not a little concert. It was actually a pretty big one at a local church. And I love this, he said questions a mentor asked him when he was feeling a fear of commitment with his now wife when they were dating. And the reason we talked about this too, and why I want to bring it up is because so many people are, like, overthinking, is this person the one? Even when it's kind of clear, like, they are the one. And our generation certainly struggles with commitment issues, like thinking maybe there's a better option out there. Not wanting to commit because again, fear of all the hard things. But these are the questions that he asked himself. Does she love Jesus? Does she make you love Jesus more? Do you think she's pretty? Do you want to hang out with her every day? Do you trust her to raise your kids? Asking these questions is how he realized he was supposed to marry his wife. And so I think that's good. That was like such good advice. Like, don't overthink it. Just ask yourself the basic questions and then go, okay. Is it a yes on these things that are really important, then I'm ready to commit. And back to what we just talked about. Committing is not saying, okay, it's going to be great, it's going to be perfect, it's going to be easy. Committing is saying, no matter what, this is who I choose to do life with. I love that book, Mingling of Souls. And Matt Chandler says it's not a question of, like, will I argue with someone in marriage? Like, who do I want to argue with for the rest of my life? And he was like, and I choose Lauren to do that with.

[D]

Yeah, you're gonna argue with somebody. Do I want to be this person or someone else? And I don't love arguing, but I would. I'm happy to argue with you.

[C]

That's so kind. What do y' all think about that? Are y' all overthinkers when it comes to commitment decisions?

[B]

Obviously I'm not. I think that. Which I don't want to skip ahead, but there's an advice on there that I really resonated with about.

Like, hearing from God, being able to discern God's voice from Pete Richardson. And I'm sure we'll talk about that in a minute.

[C]

Bring it up.

[B]

Let's talk about it. You have it actually written out so you can read it if you want to.

[C]

That was actually the next one. It says, are you talking about. Well, kind of. Both of his are good. I'll read both. He said, it is a jungle out there, but if you learn to discern the voice of your father, God, you will be able to navigate anything in that jungle. I love that. Then he said he was faced with a big decision. He called his dad and asked for advice. And his dad said, go on a 30 minute walk and ask God what he wants you to do. That gave him the gift of inquiring of God and discerning the voice of God.

[B]

That's so good. I feel like that's something I've learned a lot. And also just like, I don't know if it's. I feel like me and you both were this way, but it was kind of that, like when you know, you know, situation. And I always feel like when people ask me, like, how do you know he's the one? I'm like, I don't know. I just feel. Felt confident. And I also felt like God gave me a piece about it. And I feel like that's something I've learned a lot, especially in the past year. But really just all through this whole journey is just like Learning to listen to God and like, even if it doesn't say in the Bible, make this decision. God will tell that to you and, like, you'll feel peace about it. You'll feel confident and things like that. So I feel like that. I don't know that's how I would answer it. I guess it's just like knowing when you know, you know, really is. I feel like a commercial thing. People say a lot, but as a Christian, I think God will give you that peace and you'll know. You know, I love that.

[C]

It's so good.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's. It's not overthinking it. I. I think it's important to think about your relationship and who you're going to spend the rest of your life with and even down to who you're going to be friends with. You know, I got married at 19, so it was a little different circumstance for me. But I've seen a lot of relationships over the years. People I know who've become couples or even people who've become friends and people I've been friends with. And those questions, I think are spot on, on what you should be focusing on. I think one of the keys is friendship is who you're going to hang out with them every day. You know, everyone's got problems, everyone's got, you know, different things. And it, it does kind of come down to, like, is this something I can overlook in the beginning stages so then later on you can forgive them, move on in friendships? I even think about. But I want to say, I think that to really get to know somebody, it's not overthinking it, but I think people should think about it over a longer period of time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, it takes months.

Years maybe sometimes to really get to know somebody. And that's not like, scare you off, but that's a. Just. You have to understand that that's part of the process. You know, at Camp Chioka, when I'm hiring staff, we hire 60 staff members a year. I've hired hundreds, probably thousands, over a thousand staff members in the past 10 years. And I've entered or interview thousands. And usually in the first five minutes, I know if they're going to be a good counselor or not. But a lot, a lot of times I'm super surprised. Some people, I think, oh, they're going to be great. A couple months later they get to camp and they end up surprising me in a bad way. Sometimes someone who I was like, ah, they kind of sound weaker in the interview. They Ended up being awesome, you know? So, like, once you get past that first, like, date or that first, like, meeting, you're like, okay, I enjoyed this time. Then you. You have to understand that it might take months to really understand, kind of get their character.

[C]

That's good. That just made me think of one thing that I wrote on, like, my list of, you know, who I want my husband to be one day. I guess it was just kind of funny that I had a list, but I feel like a lot of girls do have a list. But whenever I got, like, more specific on my list, one of the things I wrote was, I want him to wait to tell me he loves me till he really knows me. Because I feel like in younger relationships, you, like, would rush into, like, those big words. Those big things was like, you have no idea that you don't even know me yet, you know? And I feel like when you throw out those words too fast or you throw out, you know, I don't know, you just get too close too fast. Sometimes you do miss that really important part of a relationship, just truly getting to know someone. And I feel like over time, again, like, that can take months for some people. That can take years for some people. But it is really important in asking yourself, like, who am I going to marry again? That's not overthinking it. That's just using wisdom and discernment and getting to know someone. Because one thing you do have to think about when you're marrying someone is this is not just someone that you like going on a date with. This is someone that's going to be like the father to your children. You know, you're Yalls, you know, uncle to Yalls children, you know, your siblings, kids. They're going to be on all your family vacations on, you know, y' all are going to go through the hard things together. When you say, like, in sickness of health, going through sickness is hard, and having a spouse who loves you through that, the conditions of marriage, like, so it's not. It's not something to underthink. It's just something to use wisdom on. But then it's also not something to overthink. Or when it's clear, it's clear it's never going to be perfect. It's never going to. You are not ever going to be perfect. So hopefully they're not waiting on you to arrive to being perfect, and they're not either. But you. So you do have to make a decision and be willing to commit. But it's important to think about Those things.

[B]

Yeah, I think.

[D]

Wait, we all three just started talking.

[C]

This is a good conversation.

[D]

There you go.

[B]

Okay, ladies. I was just gonna say that I think that there are some, like, universal qualities that everyone should look for in a spouse. And I think there's some qualities that are important to some people and, like, prioritized by others. And I think that that's something to think about, too. Like, what do you want? And I was actually thinking about this while you were talking, but I was wondering. And I can ask you later, But I was wondering, like, what qualities you look for when you're hiring for someone? Like, what are those things when you meet someone the first five minutes that you're like, that's the person that I want to hire and maybe someone that's not. And I was thinking about that because I think for me, when I hire people here, I look for, like, I like confidence. And, like, when someone comes in really confident, like, I'm quicker to hire them. And I've been wrong sometimes, because sometimes that confidence is more pride, and sometimes people come in more quiet, and I'm like, oh, they don't seem very confident. And then they're great. They're great people to work with because they're really focused and not as being, like, loud or prideful. And so I think that there's some things that some people look for and not to bring up, like, workplace, but, like, in spouses, too, I think that there are some things that you just prioritize and are important to you, and I think you should think about that, too. Like, what. What am I looking for in a person? And especially I feel like in a big family, like, I grew up the youngest of or the second youngest of a big family. And I feel like a lot of times when I was young, I was looking for, like, oh, I don't know. Well, like, this is just like, oh, Sadie, you know, normally, I don't know. You know, I just saw you and who you dated and everything, and, like, it's just hard to, like, figure out what I wanted and things like that. And that even comes down to like, even just, like, wedding styles and stuff like that. Like, you just see what your older siblings do or whatever, and you're more likely to do that. But I think think about what you want and think about what, like, is important to you. And your.

[C]

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[B]

In your future.

[C]

I feel like. I feel like I didn't know what I wanted necessarily. Like when I say a list of things, some people are like this type of person, this style. I did not know. And I dated a lot of different types of people. And I wish that this sounds bad, but I wish that we could more casually date in some sense, yes, we want to date with the intention of getting married. So I don't mean be flippant and not wise, but it's like you have to get to know people to know what you want and know what you do like in a person. And I didn't like, know it was going to be like Christian's type of person. But as I started to get to know Christian, I'm like, oh, he's like a exactly like who I want to marry. Like, this is my guy, you know? And I don't even think I would have known to write those things down. But when I just saw the qualities in Him. I was like, this is the kind of person I want to spend my life with. And on that note, too, of, like, asking other people for advice and wisdom, I was thinking about, for me, hiring people. I was, like, not great at that, because I'm like, you know, want to be everybody's friend, and I'm like, oh, they're so great. They're, like, super fun to be around. Hired. But then, like, they actually weren't good at that specific job. So now I actually remove myself from that side of our business so someone else can do that, because they are a little bit better at not just getting distracted by, like, oh, I like you as a person, but you're going to be good for the job. And so that's actually a good point when it comes to dating someone. Like, maybe, you know, my discernment isn't great. Like, maybe in the past, I've dated people that weren't great. So I'm going to ask my friends around me, like, what do you think about this person? And that's one of the reasons why Christian and I's first date was with my friends around, because I wanted to make sure, like, I'm not the only one who thinks this is a good decision, you know? And so I think you gotta know yourself in that. Where you get a.

[D]

That's good. Were you gonna say something, too?

[A]

Oh, you gotta.

[D]

First, I was just gonna do a long circle back to where we started with the question, and just. Just to add a simple. Are you gonna say something?

[A]

Well, yeah, let me get. Let me go with Bella first, and then you can get your.

[B]

Sorry, I totally went a different direction.

[A]

Well, no, I think, Bella, you're right on that. There are some things that are the same for your workplace or your friends as for your person you want to date. Some things I look for when I'm hiring, counselor, like, there's. First few things is like, are they humble? Like, I don't want. I want somebody who's confident, but I don't want them bragging. Are they. I'll ask questions about their friends. Like, do they have friends? If I. If they don't have any friends, like, probably don't want to hang around them. Ask how their relationship is with their parents, and, like, it's not. You know, not everyone has great parents, but if they can kind of talk about that, if they have a good relationship with their family, that's a good sign that they're someone who, you know, you'd like to hang out with.

Ask about their character, like, how they're doing in school, I want to know, are they ambitious? Like, they don't have to have their life planned out, but I don't want someone who's just like, whatever, I don't know, you know, who's not doing well in anything. Usually I ask if they have, like, a hobby or something. It's like, can they follow through with something? Can they commit to create something?

[B]

You know?

[C]

Well, and this is good. And so many of those questions are actually very in line with who you want to marry. But the thing is, when you're asking a camp counselor this, what you're thinking is not like, oh, I want someone fun to be at camp. It's also, who's going to lead these kids.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Because camp is such a pivotal time in people's life, and the camp counselor is speaking into their kid. Those kids and, like, can have a huge impression on their. Their life. And so you're not just looking for someone to date, you are looking for someone to marry. You know, that kind of thing.

[A]

Well, that's the other thing with a camp counselor, similar to someone who you want to date. I'm also thinking, are they going to pair well with everyone else at the camp? Like, do they fit in? Are they going to fit in with everyone? And I want to hire a diverse staff, and I do.

But I have to know they get along. And if I'm looking for someone to date, I'm like, are they going to get along with my siblings? Are they going to get along with my friends? Like, do they fit into this kind of culture?

The other thing specifically about dating that I like to. I tell people I've thought about a lot is you want to see someone in every emotional situation. So that kind of goes along with. With the questions of, like, friendship. Like, how do they react when they're angry? How do they react when they're sad? How do they react when they're happy? Are they good winners? Are they good losers? Do they lose their temper? You know, like, if you kind of go through. Are they disgusted by things? Like, if you kind of see them in all. See all those emotions, you can kind of get a sense of, like, they can control themselves or they need to. They have a temper, you know, and that's a good way to kind of. That's like a checklist that you can go through while you're trying to decide, like, am I want to commit further with this person?

[C]

That's good. I love that.

[D]

That's really good.

[B]

I think. Go for it.

[D]

Oh, no, you. No, no, no. Speak to that. And then I'm gonna circle back to the questions. We're gonna move on.

[B]

No, this isn't even that important. You just go.

[D]

No, I just was gonna say, I think those are great. Back to where we started with the list of questions that Phil's. Was it his pastor or counselor?

[C]

Yeah, his mentor.

[D]

His mentor.

You know, I think those questions are really good because I think a lot of times people that have miserable dating experiences that are like miserable in dating, think that marriage will fix those problems. And I think you have to ask these kind of questions and be truthful to it, because marriage will not solve your problems. If you are not happy with the person you're dating, and if you just magically think that getting married will solve those things, then that is not true. So I love this question because I think it kind of negates that idea of like, well, I'm. We're not happy, but I think we will be happy if we get married. So that's all I was gonna say.

[B]

I love that I was gonna say. I was just thinking about during jolink was talking, I was thinking about just all the things that you can relate to, like, especially when you're hiring someone and when you're looking for someone to date. And like, one thing I always notice, and this is just like a red flag for relationships, and I see it in the workplace, but when I'm hiring someone, if they're. The whole hiring process, they're complaining about their old job, talking negatively about every. Every job they ever had, their bosses and their co workers and yada yada, in the 30 minutes I sit down with them for an interview. It's the same for dating. If you sit down with a guy and the first thing they do is just complain about their ex girlfriends and how terrible they were and talk so negatively about them, you're gonna be the next one that they're talking about. Like that.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

So that's something that I just like always see as a red flag in the workplace and I think is so important also for dating. Like, if someone's looking at everything in a negative view and talking about people badly and like, they're going to be talking about you next. So just like, keep an eye out for that.

[C]

I've had that happen where I've gone, like, why am I so surprised? Because they told me that they did this in so many other scenarios. I just didn't think it was gonna happen to me. But it's like, you gotta. You do need to look for those patterns. This is so good. Very good advice, everyone. The next one I want to go to is John Chris's episode, which I have to say, Bella, it was fun that you said that you only listen to family because our family episodes were the top podcast of the year when it comes to how many listens and whatnot and engagement. But the person who snuck in with the family was John Chris. John Chris's episode was, I think, like, the third biggest podcast of the year, and for good reason. If you didn't listen to that, I highly encourage to go back and listen. He's so funny, but he also was so vulnerable about overcoming addiction and moving on in life. But I loved his original piece of advice. He said the closer you can be to yourself when making jokes. In his case scenario, if I can get into the energy of it, is this. Oh, sorry. He said, if I get into the energy of is this going to go on the algorithm or is this going to be funny to them? Then I'm done. And I love that he's basically saying, like, if I get into the headspace of, like, I'm only doing this so that the algorithm will, you know, like this, or I'm only doing this so that people will think I'm funny, then I'm done. Like, I got to stay in the zone of I think it's funny. This is who I am. This is what I'm putting out there. And I have, like, thought about that a lot in my life. And, like, the longevity of doing social media, there's so much pressure to, like, okay, this is the trend. This is what the algorithm likes. This is. And what you don't realize is if you start feeding that, you'll start to change who you are. And then all of a sudden, you look up and you're like, oh, who I've just portrayed myself to be to the world. It's actually starting to get far away from who I am. And then you have to keep up with an image you created of yourself. And so it's like, no, I'm not going to do this for the algorithm. I'm not going to do this for. For the likes or for them to, like, I'm going to do it because it's the overflow of who I am, and that's such a good space to be. And that doesn't just go for social media. Certainly you see it on social media, but that's in anything in your life, you know? But I thought that was such good advice.

[D]

It was really good. Yeah. I see a lot of people on social Media that you can tell that they post things because they think it's going to hit on the algorithm. And it's. Yeah, those people really frustrate me, I think not naming any names, but I.

[B]

Think too that people, the reason you're followed and the reason you get attraction is because people like you. And so the longer you stay you, the more you'll have see success. And I think me and mom have talked about that before when Duck Dynasty happened, like she could have moved us to LA and just like done away with West Monroe and not even did Duck Commander and just moved us to LA and pursued whatever there is there, but that wouldn't be us anymore. That's the whole reason people love us is because we're from Louisiana. Like this is our life. And that's the reason we, you know, and I think that happens a lot with influencers. Not to shade any influencers, but I think that with influencers, a lot of times they may get famous because they post about their nursing job or their whatever job they do, they may get famous for that and then they quit their job and they do influencing. But then that's who you were and that's why people love you. Not because of your job, but people love seeing what you do. And then when you change that for social media, you're not who you are anymore.

[C]

You know, it's the same thing with like aesthetics to me, like if you go to and I'm not, this is not necessarily like a bad thing. This is just a look. But like if you go to Nashville, there is a look everybody has. It's like long hair, the fake eyelashes, a lot of Botox, perfect skin. That's the look. If you go to like the University of Alabama, you're going to see spray tans and you're going to see everybody's tan. Everybody's wearing Lululemon, everybody's, you know, wearing daily drills, you go to Malibu, everybody's wearing like the, the shirt that's like not quite to their jeans showing like a little mitt and like, you know, cool white pants. Like I woke up like this vibe, skincare, perfect. But it's like we don't realize that in doing that we all start to look this the same, you know, and it's like that is like a look. But God gave you a look that's unique that no one else has, that is actually like a gift to the world. Like we are made in the image of God. We get to see new sides of who God is by us expressing what God put in us. And so not that that's bad. I do it too. I follow the trends where I just got my eyebrows laminated because I like the way it looks.

[B]

I was noticing that while you were talking. I was like, really good.

[C]

Thank you so much. It's not bad. You're not doing anything wrong to appreciate a look and go for it. But I do think if you're not careful and staying true to who you are and you're just doing it because you want to follow everybody else, then you look up and there's like, not a lot of uniqueness. There's not a lot of originality. And I think that that is sad because it's really cool to see people, like, owning who they are, owning what they look like, owning. Like Lauren Daigle is a good example of just like true living original. Like, Lauren wears outfits that I'm like, how did you even think to put that together? But she looks beautiful and she's so cool and people appreciate her so much because she's like so authentically living who she is. And I don't need to try to copy her outfit because I like it. That would look ridiculous on me because that's not who I am. And people would be like, what are you doing? You know? But I'm inspired by her authenticity in that and it makes me want to be more like me, you know, not more like her.

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[B]

I was thinking my head what you were talking like, what is our look? What is Louisiana? What do we wear?

[C]

Yeah, I don't really know because I feel like all of us have such different style in some sense. I don't know that it's like a look here. I don't know, maybe other people could speak into that.

[B]

Yeah, comment below.

[C]

Maybe y' all should comment below what our look is because I don't know if you can see, like, I don't know, people in Nashville are thinking like, oh, we all kind of have like a look, you know, and maybe I realize it now cuz I'll like wear stuff that I used to wear when I lived there that like, I'm like, this doesn't really fit me, but it totally did when I was there. But it doesn't fit me here and it fit me there because everybody else is wearing that. It's just kind of funny.

[B]

That's like that, like one time I had that happen to me with like a backhanded compliment at school. I was at school freshman year and a half. Substitute teacher told me after class. She was like, I just want to tell you, don't ever change wearing your outfits different than everyone else and like doing your own thing and having your own style. Like, you may not look like everyone else. And like, people may say stuff, but don't ever change. And I was like, you're like, I never thought about that until now. And I was like, okay, girl.

[C]

I know. People have said that to me too. They're like, they've said kind of what I said about Lauren. Like, I would never wear that, but it looks really cute on you. And you're like, is it weird because I didn't actually think it was weird.

[A]

The John Criss episode was probably one of my favorite episodes. I listened to it out the door, and I thought when he was talking about that and talking about being a creative and kind of putting yourself out there, I feel that a lot, and I think that a lot of that comes down to comparison. Is you want to hit for any. This goes for any job, but especially for creatives, is you want to hit. When you. When you start looking at the numbers and stop looking at the art or your competency in whatever you're doing, that's when you start to, like, lose yourself. Like, yeah, for. It's totally. If you like doing trends and you're good at it, do it. Like, that's great. If you're good at that aspect of whatever it is, or if you can put that look together, like, there's a reason that those things. Things are well and do well. But when you start to see your art as a job, that's. I think, when you start to, like, lose yourself and that's, like, sometimes you have to. Sometimes you have to do that. Like, sometimes you. You want to make something that you're like, oh, I know this is going to go viral, or, oh, I know people are going to really like this. And sometimes you just do that to get a confidence boost. But if you put your personality in that and it doesn't do well, then you start to. You start to lose yourself.

[D]

Yeah, I think that's the thing for me. Because, you see, I mean, I don't think there's really necessarily wrong with. Yeah, like you said, whether it's something trendy or you like, I actually do think this will perform well. I don't think that's necessarily always a bad thing. But my point is, when you do do something, like when you. When you post this and then that works, and then you only become that thing.

[C]

It's like, niche.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's like that, you know, works.

[D]

Yeah, it's like. Like, for instance, like, if I'm a preacher and I could post all my different preaching content, but if the one thing that works is me having all the hot takes that I'm screaming, so then I'm only going to post screaming hot takes because I know that those get a ton of views, then you just become that person rather than all the other things that encompasses your messages. You just become known as that one thing because, you know, it works. Because people. It can sometimes be controversial, or people can share it or people can discuss it. And to me, that's when it becomes damaging. To where you limit yourself to this one thing because, you know, this is what works. And, yeah, I don't think it's always bad to, oh, this is a fun, trendy thing. I'll do it. I mean, I've done that plenty of times. I think this will work. But if you become that one thing just because it worked, and somehow it does keep working because you figured out the algorithm, then I think that's when it becomes dangerous.

[C]

And you tend to only share that one side of you because you don't want people to not like you or like you, start to delete the things that aren't performing well or start to only, you know, act in that one space. It's like, I've said this before, but I know if I walk through the airport dressed like I am today, I'm going to get stopped and recognized and take pictures of people. If I walk through the airport in my pajamas or casual clothes and Christians seeing this with no makeup on, nobody even, like, notices me. It's kind of nice and funny. But if I was like, I always have to be put together because that's the version people notice me, and that's the version people like, that would be so much pressure on myself to always healthy, ready, and it's not healthy. And I have to be okay with going, okay, I might not get a compliment today, I might not get recognized today, but I'm confident enough in who I am with no makeup on and sweats and whatever, because my look doesn't define me. You know, my look, it might look better to people, but that's not, like, where I find my confidence in who I am. And so I think that's what you have to check with yourself.

[B]

Live, original.

[C]

This all boils down to one message.

[B]

Live, original.

[C]

And then I say, on this note, on this note, Lacy Abercrombie hit us with the best piece of advice. Log off the Internet. Has there ever been a time in yalls life where you had to log off the Internet?

[D]

So does he mean, like, delete something or, like, unplug a computer?

[C]

How do you take it, babe?

[D]

Well, log off technically would mean just shut it down.

[C]

Have you ever shut it all down?

[D]

Shut it all down? No. Have I shut some down? Yes.

[C]

How'd that go for you?

[D]

It was good. It was very. It was a good time in my life.

[C]

You've deleted Instagram a few times.

[D]

A few times.

[C]

You completely cut out Snapchat.

[D]

Completely cut out Snapchat. But I wouldn't say I logged off the Internet. So the Internet Is she just me and Instagram?

[C]

Would you stop being specific and answered the question?

[D]

I'm acting right, too. Papa is okay. Sorry.

Have I logged off the Internet regarding Snapchat? Yes. Snapchat's the wot. Instagram. Yes. Those have been healthy times for me when kind of like what we just talked about. If I get my head on.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, why is that? Not performing well or thinking about things too much and feeling like I'm just spending too much time on it and I want to fill that with something else. Yes. I think it's great to set app time limits and stuff like that, but sometimes it's easy just to click that. You know, extra 15 minutes, put in that code, keep on scrolling.

[C]

Sometimes you need to delete it just.

[D]

To get it off.

[C]

So we have friends, married couple, and they have screen time on their apps and they, like, they know each other's password. Like, the other person doesn't know their password. So, like, I was about to bring that up. Yes. Like, it's Freddie and Parker. I just go and say it live. You guys know Freddie. If Freddie wants more screen time, she has to ask Parker for the passcode to add 15 minutes. I think that's great. Accountability. Accountability, yeah. We should probably.

[D]

I don't want to do that, but it's good.

[C]

When you're ready to log out the Internet, let me know and we'll do that.

[D]

I do log off the Internet a lot of times.

[C]

No, I think that's really good, though. What about y'? All?

[B]

Well, everybody knows I have a complicated relationship with social media, so, yes, I have, but I think that for me, it's more about the posting side of things. Like, I don't even have to delete the app because it's not about looking on social media. It's about the.

Mental block I have about posting on social media. I have a lot of just. I don't know, there's a lot of pressure that I feel about posting on social media, and I just don't like to do it. It's just like about two years ago, I was like, I just can't feel this pressure anymore. And so I stopped posting as regularly. And I post every now and then, but it's just not something that I do every day anymore because I just have a lot of anxiety around it.

[C]

Putting some great things on your story, and I'm like, this is a main page thing. And I think that's really real to share with people that you have anxiety around it. I think a lot of people probably feel that way with social media. Because social. The algorithm does put pressure on you. Like we can say all day long, like, don't let the algorithm. But like, it does put pressure on you because it's like if you don't post all the time, then you're not gonna. It's not gonna get shared, whatever. And I always try to tell Christian this, like when we, we talk about this because he was starting to like really work on his social media this year is like, you're noticing your like, count. No one else is. You're noticing what performs better and no one else is. No one's saying, oh man, that did not perform well for her. And if you are, that's rude and unnecessary. But like, I never think that when I see somebody else's post. And it might not be that for you, but I do think a lot of people feel that.

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[B]

I think. And to be totally transparent, I think it comes from years of like, if anyone's 23 right now, you grew up. I feel like we grew up at a very weird time where like Instagram started when I was like nine and it wasn't big enough for anyone to know that like a 9 year old, 10 year old shouldn't probably be on Instagram. And at the time it really wasn't that crazy. So I was on social media when I was like 10 years old, which sounds so crazy now, but at the time it wasn't like that. And so posting on social media for 10 years and growing, growing, growing, growing, growing, getting to a point where it was my job. It just, I think I just came from years of like feeling like everything was growing and I was having to keep up with it. And like I felt like I had to trade my personal life and my privacy for more followers and I just didn't like that. And like, personally for me, like I value privacy and value, yeah, I just value privacy a lot. And so I think that posting on social media and feeling like I had to, to keep up with my job, to keep up with what I'd done for so many years, to keep up with all the people who have followed me and who I love that follow me. And like I felt like I had to keep up with that and I had to sacrifice my privacy for that. And that was just not something that I was comfortable with anymore. And like I just had had to pull, pull back from. And so that's just personal to me and not everyone's story, but for me it just wasn't something that I could continue doing and like be in a good mental health space.

[C]

That's really wise. And actually the other day I said something to a friend, I was like, if I didn't believe in like the impact it can make, I would just not have social media. And she said, really? It seems like you actually really like it and you're really natural at it. And I was like, well, I guess I shouldn't say that I was like. Because I actually do love it. Like the fun of it is supernatural to me. I love like posting fun things, stories, sharing my life with people, like that doesn't bother me. I mean, think about me when I was a kid before there was social media and I had like my little video camera and I was always recording myself talk, you know, just before any of that. So that is natural to me. But I was telling her I don't like what social media has become because it is a job and it is like there is a huge part of it that is a job now, and there is a huge part of it that is, you know, having to keep up and posting so often and all this stuff where it's like, that side, I do not like that it's become that and it makes you just not want to share because you're like, this is too much. But I. I'm like, okay, help me, Lord, to keep it fun and to keep it encouraging and keep it what it was originally created to be and not what, you know, this new technology has made it to be. You know, like, I'm trying to stay true to it, but. But it's hard.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

John, you have anything on that?

[A]

Yeah, I think of it in two ways. The first is just removing distraction from your life. I had someone tell me one time, if you're consuming, you're not creating. And that, you know, that really hit me as a creative kind of person, and especially me, because I get really into, you know, I watch YouTube videos and stuff and I'll find myself and be like, oh, I've watched.

A hundred hours on making something out of leather, but I haven't actually made anything. Like, at some point, if you want, if you enjoy the things you're watching, you've gotta turn it off so you can actually make the thing. And that goes with any distraction in your life. Like, I like to read. That's something I do. But I find myself scrolling for five minutes or I could actually be doing something I enjoy more than scrolling, but it's just such a distraction.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then the second thing I think is just about comparison or the way that makes you feel. I mean, that's. In normal life. If I have a friend, I've had friends before who are just super negative and every time I hang out with them, I get really negative and I'm like, I just need to. Why am I hanging out with them? Whenever I could come away from that, being negative or feeling bad or whatever. Like if I'm. If Instagram or TikTok or whatever is making me feel jealous or a comparison or not joyful or wasting time, like, why would I?

[C]

You gotta have the self control to stay.

[A]

Yeah, I think it feels like such a cultural. Like you have to be in it. You have to be watching to like, keep up with what's going on, but you really just don't.

[C]

What's weird is if you step away. For me, every time I've Logged off. I don't miss it, right? I don't go back to it because I'm like, oh, I miss it so much. You know, I normally go back to it because I feel purpose. Like, I'm like, oh, like now I feel like my mind is clear. I feel purpose in it, of course. Like, I miss seeing my friends things and that kind of stuff. But you don't miss, like, just the time that you feel wasted from scrolling, you know, it's not like that. It's like, oh, I hate I missed your announcement or your, you know, with your family or whatever. And so I feel like I always come back with better boundaries just because I'm like, oh, this is what I know I want out of this. I want to see my friends. I want to catch up with people. I want to post things that are encouraging to other people. I want to do fun trends again because actually enjoy that. Like, we laugh a lot when we try to do a dance or something like that, but I come back healthier and stronger. And the other thing I want to say, too, just in full transparency, because we were talking about this beforehand, where I just did a Q and A on social media, was like, ask me anything. And I had so many questions about if I get Botox, which is kind of funny. And this answer is really not about Botox, but I'm saying it to this point. I was like, should I answer this? I don't get Botox, but I don't want people to feel ashamed if they do get Botox. I don't have, like, a strong opinion against it. I just don't. But one thing I love is when people do share what they've had done, because it's, like, helpful to set your expectation on, like, what natural skin can look like or what your skin could look like if you did that just by somebody just being honest with how they do it. And for me, with social media and doing all the things I'm doing and having three kids, if I did not have a team helping me run my social media, I could not keep up with social media 100%. And so I would never want someone to look at me and go, like, man, how does she have three kids and does all this podcasting whatnot and also have something to post every day, literally, I have a full team of people helping me do that, helping me think of ideas, helping me say, hey, I love when you said that. Let's write a caption about it. And I write my content. I fully approve anything that goes up. I'm Sending my pictures to my team. So it is me. But if I didn't have them helping spark what I should do or helping keep up with things for me or even posting it half the time because I'm just busy beatbopping around my everyday life, I would, yeah, I wouldn't be able to do it. And so I just think that's just good to hear other people say, like, how they actually do it. That's how I do it. And I actually post a lot on my close friends, my very personal life, like with my kids, because again, I love social media and that's the fun of it to me. And then I have a team help me with the job side of it because I was starting to lose interest.

[A]

I want to highlight that because I think that doesn't just go for social media, but any job that, that you have out there, it. You. You start doing that job because you love it. You know, or if you're starting a business or whatever, you start doing because you love it. But the more you, the more your hobby becomes your business, you get further away from the hobby.

[B]

I was thinking the same thing.

[A]

Like, I was seeing, like, for me, that was coffee. I love coffee. I love making coffee. And so I got the coffee shops and I love, love being up a resale of serving. I love roasting the coffee and creating the drinks and creating the flavors and the beans and all that. But the, the more it became a business, the further away I got. Then I was just doing taxes and health code and all that, like hiring and all that kinds of stuff. The stuff that I really didn't like about, yeah, I wasn't doing my hobby anymore. I wasn't doing the thing I loved. And then once I sold the coffee shops and got back to just roasting the coffee, making drinks, I was like, oh, I love this. You know, I wasn't maybe necessarily making as much money. It was less of a business, but I was back to the hobby rather than making it some kind of like, work thing.

[B]

Y. I was thinking the same thing because I think that obviously that doesn't apply to every job, like, you know, everyday jobs. That's not always the case that it's your hobby that you just go and do. But I think with social media, that's almost how everyone's career on social media starts, is that they love to post and they share about their life and they love to do this and that, and then all of a sudden they're hit with, oh, wait, this is, this can be my job. And they're excited about that. But then all of a sudden, that takes a turn, and now it's this thing that you have to keep up with because it's your livelihood, and sometimes that can be really hard. So I think that. And with John Crist, I think that that's probably similar to his story. Like, like, he was, like, loved to be funny and make people laugh, and now it's his job. And so that, like, grounding that you have to do is just like, I still have to be myself in this. So it's good.

[C]

Okay, y' all gotta be real. We totally intended to do this whole podcast in one, but things are going so good. I was loving the conversation so much. I love spending time with my brother, sister Christian. So much good advice for the year. We literally could not fit it all all into one, so we're going to have a part two tune in next week for part two. Thank y' all so much for listening along. This whole year has been incredible, and I know the best is yet to come.