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Taking 8 Years Out of the Spotlight Didn't Stop God's Plan for Me | Sadie Robertson Huff & CeCe Winans
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CeCe Winans
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Sadie Robertson
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CeCe Winans
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Unknown Host
What's up? Everybody happy? Whoa, that's good. Wednesday. I hope you're having a great week, but friends, it is about to get so much better because we have a very special guest in the house in Monroe, Louisiana today. Yeah, that's right. It requires a giggle. We have none other than Cece Winans. I'm so glad that you're here.
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Sadie Robertson
Hi. I'm so glad to be here in good Monroe.
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Unknown Host
I told you she was just shy of Hotel Monroe making it.
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Sadie Robertson
That's right. I'm so excited for you all.
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Unknown Host
Thank you. It's the little things in a small town you get excited about.
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Sadie Robertson
That's right. Which. Which I think is sweet.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, it really is. I love living in a small town and this is a big reason to get excited that you're here. And so thank you for coming in a day early and doing this podcast.
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Sadie Robertson
You got it.
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Unknown Host
Such a gift.
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Sadie Robertson
Thanks for having me.
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Unknown Host
I just told you this off camera, but I want to tell you this on camera too, because I want people to go on the journey of listening to your music if they're not in the pattern of already doing that, which many are. But getting to prepare for anyone coming on this podcast is a gift because we have so many incredible guests but preparing for you to be on. I've been so inspired, so encouraged. I was just telling you I listened to your whole Goodness of God album this morning, which is like an hour and a half long.
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Sadie Robertson
I was about to say that's. You got a lot of Cece in there.
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Unknown Host
I really did. I Went to church, I didn't play plan on listening to the whole thing, but I had it on, do my makeup and then I had it on doing my hair, and then I had it on in the car. And then when I got to the office, I'm like, why do I need to go in? I'll just sit here and work and keep it on. And I was just like so filled up. And I just thought to myself, man, I need to do this more often. And you know, I always have worship on. But the way that you minister through your worship is so powerful. I just thought, I mean, from any believer who's loved the Lord and followed them their whole life or a first time, never listened to worship music. It's just an amazing place to be. So everyone go listen to that whole album through you will be highly blessed. But I gotta ask you the question to ask everybody that comes on the well that's good podcast first. And it's a big question. Okay, it is a big question. But the question is, cece, what is the best piece of advice you've ever been given?
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Sadie Robertson
That is a big question. But I mean, the best piece of advice was to get to know the Lord, to love Jesus, to give your heart to God, you know, And I was told that as a kid, you know, so that's the best by far.
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Unknown Host
That is pretty good.
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Sadie Robertson
The best. But outside of that, I mean, I've been. When you've lived, as long as I lived, I've been given so many great pieces of advice, so it's hard to say the best. So I'm just going to give you a good one. And that is really live. Live what you. What you preach.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, that's really good.
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Sadie Robertson
Live what you preach, live what you sing about.
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Unknown Host
It's really good. You know, I haven't had too much time to spend around you, but everyone that has talked about you to me has said she is exactly what you would think she is and that it's so cool coming from you. That's your best piece of advice. And that's what people say of you. So to say that you're living what you're preaching, I would say you're doing it pretty well.
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Sadie Robertson
That's a piece of value. Praise God. That's the goal.
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Unknown Host
That's beautiful. I love that. You know, going back when did you get to know the Lord? Have you known the Lord from a young age?
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Sadie Robertson
I've known him from a very young age, thank God. I was born into a Christian family. My mom and dad both were strong believers. And taught us the word of God. I come from a big family for people who don't know. My mom and dad, they met singing in a youth choir, got married really young, but they had 10 kids, so it's 10 of us. We were talking about pregnancies earlier.
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Unknown Host
God bless your mother.
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Sadie Robertson
Hey. She has. I know you have girls, but she had seven boys straight. I was the first girl. And it was back then when they didn't have the ultrasound, so they were like. So when they told her that she had a girl, she was like, what? Are you sure you got the right chart?
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Unknown Host
That is wild.
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Sadie Robertson
And I have two younger sisters, but we all sang growing up. So I would say at the age of 12 was really a personal decision.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
You know, but. But I fell in love with the presence of the Lord as a kid, and I'm so glad I did, you know, and it meant a lot. And I try to encourage parents. It's a great thing to have your kids in church around, like you were saying, listening to worship and hearing because they get to learn the presence and sense the presence of the Lord at a young age. So. Yeah.
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Unknown Host
That's sweet. It's so cool. So my daughter is about to be four and she typically goes to the kids class, but she asked me the other day, she's like, mommy, can I come worship with you? I was like, yes, yes.
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Sadie Robertson
That's awesome. I love it.
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Unknown Host
And it's just so sweet just getting to worship with her. And I'm seeing she loves being in here. And so I love how you said that you love being in the presence of the Lord. And I'm already seeing that in her. And I'm like, I love that you love to be in here, you know, love that you want to be in the adult room worshiping and even in the kid room. So it's really cool.
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Sadie Robertson
That is awesome.
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Unknown Host
What were you like as a kid? Were you a little performer, entertainer? Like, was that the type of personality that you had or what were you like?
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Sadie Robertson
No, no. I never liked being out front ever. What type of kid was I? That's that. I don't think anybody's ever asked me that question before.
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Unknown Host
Really?
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Sadie Robertson
I don't know. I was not one that liked to be out front. I loved having fun, you know, with my siblings and my friends. Always loved singing, but I loved being like we had a kid's choir or singing in the background. Singing was always a part of our home. All of us sang. So that was something that I loved in school. I think I was probably kind of quiet on the quiet end, but not at home.
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Unknown Host
That's exactly how I was. I was really shy in public, but not at home.
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Sadie Robertson
Not at home, family at home, you have fun, you know, so. But pretty simple, you know, I like simple things and I think I've continued that way.
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Unknown Host
Sweet. I love that. When was your first, like, I don't want to say, well, I guess I shouldn't say performance, but when did you realize, like, you were really good.
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Sadie Robertson
That was really good. I don't think I've ever realized that. I'm really good. But like my first solo, I was probably about 8 years old and I didn't want to do it. My parents, you know, back then, they could care less what you wanted to do. You're going to sing this song. They knew I could sing, so I sang this song and I cried. It was called Feel My Cup, Lord. And I cried through the whole thing and my friends are LAUGHING and at 8 years old. Yeah, 8 years old. And then they had me do it again. So it was a song I sang at this convocation, is what we used to call it meeting every year. And every year almost I would just cry, right? I would make it through, but I would be crying. And I can remember looking at the audience while I'm singing and something just kind of hit me that it was someone bigger than me a part of while I'm singing, you know what I'm saying? I'm feeling the presence of the Lord. So it kind of went from me being fearful to actually recognizing the presence of the Lord. Wow. So we all, again, we all sang. So I knew I had a voice. I grew up in Detroit, Michigan. There's some great singers in Detroit. Great singers in Detroit. So I heard better voices than mine every day, you know, but. But probably the age of 16, I kind of knew this is what I want to do, you know, that it was growing up, I just really thought, I thought everybody's family sang. It was nothing that was really special. We didn't know until we got older. Oh, wait a minute. This is not the norm, you know, so probably about 16, I started doing some background vocals for Andre Crouch and different well known singers at the time. And that kind of started my journey.
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Unknown Host
Wow, that's so cool. It's so beautiful that even at such a young age you would cry. Like leading worship and singing like you had like such a sensitive spirit.
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Sadie Robertson
Sensitive spirit.
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Unknown Host
I heard somewhere just how close you were with your grandmother. And I love hearing you talk about, about your grandmother because I'm really close to my grandmother and even my great grandmother and just so grateful to have their voices. So truly such a blessing in my life.
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Sadie Robertson
You have your great grandmother too.
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Unknown Host
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Sadie Robertson
I think the generational impact. I mean, we know that God designs all of us differently, you know, But I know for a fact the generational impact made the greatest impact. Because my parents were true believers, we couldn't listen to anything but gospel music in our home. We were in Detroit, Motown sound, all of that, but all we could listen to was Christian music. And so because we were music lovers, we loved all of it. You know, we loved every style, every genre in gospel music. And so I think that had something to do with it. But I would hanging out with my grandmother, she was a woman of prayer. And so back then we had like 6am prayer. And whenever I would spend a night over her house a lot, I would go to prayer with her, you know, so I'm hearing her pray, and I'm in the sanctuary and I'm hearing it and I'm around it, you know, she was my best friend. I mean, I just really loved hanging out with her and being the first girl and the only girl for a little while. I would go to her house a lot of times, you know.
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Unknown Host
Special.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah, very special times. And. But, yeah, so I think. I think all of that had a lot to do with it because, Sadie, by the time I was in school, I can remember going as a middle schooler, definitely a high schooler, wanting to be at 6am prayer. That's where I wanted to be.
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Unknown Host
That's awesome.
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Sadie Robertson
And to me, it's just. I just remember feeling safe in his presence. And. Yeah, and I'm very grateful, very grateful for that.
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Unknown Host
I love that My great grandmother always says to me, like, you know, you have such a depth, like, you ask questions beyond your ears. Like, she says that to me, but I actually think a lot of it is because of her. Because I've had, you know, because when you're around someone so much older who has so much wisdom, you want to be like them, you start rising up a little bit, you know, like, you desire to have deeper conversations. You desire to pray like them, to posture yourself like them. And so I do think that has a significant impact.
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Sadie Robertson
I think so too. Because you. When I look back, we laugh sometimes, because when I find some pictures, sometimes I'm up there and I'm just with older women, like, oh, my grandmother and her friends. And I'm like, smiling, right? So if you're spending time in a seasoned environment, you know, More than you're just with your friends. And friends are fun, you know, but if you have that type of rich environment, it has to have an impact.
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Unknown Host
It grows your maturity.
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Sadie Robertson
It grows your maturity.
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Unknown Host
I remember on the playground back in elementary school, I would always try to talk to the teacher and they'd be like, go play and be like, okay, okay. But one more question which is so me now.
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Sadie Robertson
You've been old all your life.
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Unknown Host
So me now. Oh, my, my friends always make fun of me and I love, I love my friends. I have the best friends. But my friends actually got me a rocking chair for my birthday. Cuz they're like, you're part grandma. You're part grandma. And I'm cool with that. I love it.
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Sadie Robertson
I know that's right. It's a blessing.
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Unknown Host
People hate on m. Like whenever, you know, you get the minivan and they're like, oh, I feel so old. I'm like, I was ready for this. Like I've been read ready for this moment. This is exciting. You know, this is. It's so cool to hear that you only listen to gospel or Christian music and all in all genres of that. You know, I actually saw a real that was posted. It was kind of like going viral of you recently and it was so funny, but so good because you said, this is a little bit off topic.
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Sadie Robertson
But I'm nervous to hear what I said.
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Unknown Host
No, you were talking about cussing and you were like, if you stub your toe, there shouldn't be a cuss word that gets out. You should just say like, glory to God. Hallelujah. Well, everybody laughs and you're like, why are you laughing? And it was so good. Well, this, I know it wasn't really from that necessarily. We just also happen to be talking a lot about that in our life because we do messy conversations on this podcast. So we'll do like a messy conversation about tattoos or a messy conversation, like stuff that people feel is a little bit controversial.
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Sadie Robertson
Got it. Okay.
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Unknown Host
And so we've been working on one for messy conversations about cussing.
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Sadie Robertson
Okay.
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Unknown Host
And for me, I was, was really aligning with you and I was just saying like it shouldn't come out because it shouldn't even be in there. And so, you know, and I was, I was saying I'm not trying to be like, you know, self righteous and so you can only listen to this, but if you are just listening to these things, it just won't come out. So talk to me about, have you always been serious about what's going in and were you serious about it, or was it just something you actually wanted to put in? Like, where did you find yourself in that?
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Sadie Robertson
Very serious about what I wanted to put in. Of course, when you're younger, you don't realize the impact or the importance of it, but again, when you have a relationship with the Lord at a young age, you fear the Lord. You know, nowadays they don't teach on hell a lot nowadays.
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Unknown Host
It's true. It's true.
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Sadie Robertson
When I was growing up, they taught on it a lot. And even though I didn't have a lot of wisdom, I knew that's not where I wanted to go.
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Unknown Host
Yep.
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Sadie Robertson
So it was probably part scared and part love. You know, as you get older, you realize, oh, it's the love of God. You know, I can't live without the love of God. But when I was younger, oh, no, no, I'm not going to hell. I can't do that. That's not where I want to hang out. So I believed that God was with me all the time, you know, and so I strived not to disappoint him and because I wanted him to, which I know he'll never leave us or forsake us, but I wanted to please him. That was my. That was my goal. And it's. And it's been my goal. I have failed and messed up several times. But thank God for repentance. Thank God for his love. But. But when that's your goal, then what you listen to, what you say, how you respond on a good day or bad day should always reflect his glory. It's great, you know, you always consider him.
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Unknown Host
It's great. I love that. That is a woe, that's good moment. That's why we call this podcast. Whoa, that's good.
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Sadie Robertson
Woe. That's good.
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Unknown Host
You come on and you say stuff like that, and then you just gotta go, whoa, that's good. I want to ask you. So you said 16 was kind of your time where you started to really pursue. Like, this is what I want to do. Did you. When you started pursuing that? Like, when was it that you. It really became a career for you.
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Sadie Robertson
Again? At that point, I don't know if I ever really got a chance to pursue. I realized that I had a gift. I realized that the Lord had anointed the gift. But my. My aim was just always, Lord, whatever your will is for my life, if it was to sing in the choir and use that gift, so be it again. Because being out front, really, to pursue it meant you had to be out front.
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Unknown Host
Yeah.
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Sadie Robertson
That's not really what I wanted to do. So at 16, 17, I think I was turning 17, my brother and I got a call to be a part of a Christian show called T Not tbn. It wasn't TBN back then. PTL Club. What's the name of it? And one of my brothers and myself went down to be a part of a Christian group. And it was there where Tammy Faye Baker gave us a song to sing together. Lord, lift us up. It was Love, Lift us up. But we turned. She wanted us to change the words to Love Lift up. Lord, lift us up. And we did that. And people saw that on television. That was my first experience of being on tv. And it was cause of a friend who was the musical director there, knew that it was a whole family that could sing in Detroit, Michigan. And they asked Bebe and I to come and audition for the group. And so we both made it. And that really started when they saw us sing that song together. People started asking for us to come to their churches and sing songs. We were like, well, we never planned on being a duet.
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Unknown Host
Yeah.
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Sadie Robertson
So we had it back back then. We had the cassette tapes, and so we had to, you know, get 30 minutes of music together. And. And so that started BB and CC wow. You know, and we did that for many years. Then we got signed to Sparrow Records and Capitol Records. So we. God bless us, to be able to minister to the church and the world at the same time, the mainstream. Because Capital Records heard our music, and they were partners with Sparrow Records, and they released it on R B radio. Yeah.
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Unknown Host
So cool.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah. So it just happened so that I was 17 when I went to PTL. We probably released the record when I was about maybe 20, because I think I was on there close to three years.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
And. And, yeah, that's so cool. So that's the way it happens.
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Unknown Host
It's so cool. Like, because even now, you still have such a huge crossover with your music, like American Idol finale. Hello. I mean, I was just telling someone about that this morning, and I went back to find the clip, and it's pretty amazing because that was the finale of American Idol. And there's all these other clips, you know, that they posted that night and has a million views. This. That's 3 million. And it's good. And then yours is 50 million views. So, like, 50 million people listening to the goodness of God. Are you surprised by the crossover that your music carries? Just because it is. You're so explicitly gospel, like, you do not shy away from singing and preaching the gospel. Are you surprised that mainstream has picked it up so much?
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Sadie Robertson
I'm not. Now, years ago, I realized. And I don't know what age I was when I. Probably when we came out. You know, when we came out, Bibi and I, what was I? Maybe about 20. I don't know, maybe about 21. And when we started singing because of the mainstream airplay we were getting, I realized the Lord just allowed me to see that everyone needs God. They might act like they don't, but everybody does. Yep. And the Lord, I remember him telling me one time, the Holy Spirit saying, I just need you to be obedient. I know how to touch every heart.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
If you just do what I tell you to do. Because everybody has a God place in their hearts. And so I stopped worrying about that a long time ago because it's easy to try to judge a book by its cover or this person wouldn't want to know about Jesus or this one. And it's like, there's been times when I've been in the audience where. Or should I say I've had an audience where nobody looked like they ever heard about God. And I've watched the Holy Spirit wipe them out. Wow. Where they're weeping. They don't even know what happened. But most of them do. Most of them are saying things like, thank you so much. My grandmother used to take me to church. This person used to pray for me. And I'm like, whoa.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
So I learned that a long time ago.
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Unknown Host
Wow. That's so cool.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah. God is amazing.
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Unknown Host
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Sadie Robertson
Because they need the love of the Spirit.
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Unknown Host
Spirit is love and joy. And yes, the things that people desire most in life, love, joy, peace. And, like, why would they not want that? You know? And I think, too, I think people, even if they don't necessarily believe in it or think they even believe in it or know that they believe in it yet, right? They respect someone who truly does, like you. You live it, you're preaching it, you're living it. You 100 believe it. So it's inspiring. Like, you see your life and, like, it is working for her. And something about that is intriguing to people. Like, how does that work for you? You have a beautiful family. You have this longevity to your career. You have this integrity. And, like, when you, you know, really think about. It's like, it's got to be Jesus, you know? It's gotta be Jesus.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah. And that's the. And that's the beauty in it, you know, I'm sure you've been asked, but I used to be asked all the time. Is it hard to. To balance it all, or is it hard to live. Live under the pressure, you know? And it's like, no, because this is the way we live when the lights are on and when they're off, too. You know what I'm saying? Does life get hard sometimes? Yes, of course. But thank God we have the Lord. You know, we know what to do. So. Yeah, it isn't. It's very humbling, because I know without God, I'm absolutely nothing.
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Unknown Host
Yep.
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Sadie Robertson
I know I need him. I think one of my greatest strengths is that I know I need him.
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Unknown Host
That's good.
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Sadie Robertson
I can't sing without him. I can't do anything. I can't be a good wife without him. I can't be a good mom without him. I just need him. And so I live a life of desperation for who he is, you know? And I think that's my greatest strength, because whenever we feel like we have anything to do with it, you're. You're in for fall.
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Unknown Host
Y. That's so true. That's so true.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah.
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Unknown Host
One of my favorite verses is like, unless the Lord builds the house, you labor in vain. And it's so true. And it talks about eating the bread of anxious toil. It's so true anytime, like, I think I can do it in my own strength. The anxious, like, the anxiety, the pressure goes on. Then when you're like, let the Lord build the house palace. You sleep in peace. Like, it's so true. That psalm is so true. But I love hearing you say that. You know, one of the. I think it was the first song in the Goodness of God album. You're. You're, like, praying that the Holy Spirit would come, and it's the importance of the Holy Spirit coming and the power. We actually just were in the UK last month, and we went to church there, and it was so cool because at the end of the church service, they just kind of, like, someone got up, a pastor got up, and she was like, okay, we're just gonna stop, and we're just gonna ask the Holy Spirit to come in, to come in our lives, come in our heart. And I didn't Know what was necessarily about to happen, because sometimes you go to churches, and when they say that things are about to get, like, crazy, you know, this is not like that. She just said, we're gonna ask the Holy Spirit to come in. And they said, because not only is your life hard without the Holy Spirit, but the call of God in your life is impossible without the Holy Spirit. And when they said that, I was just like, man, it's so true. So then we just prayed. Everyone just prayed. And then she just started speaking scripture, and it was just so beautiful. It was so beautiful. I've never been in a church where when they just invited the Holy Spirit, it looked like that, but it felt so right. Felt so beautiful and natural. And it's really kind of struck me the past month since being home, I'm like, okay, I need to invite the Holy Spirit into my every single day life, because I cannot do it without him, because it's impossible without him. And what do you think? I mean, obviously, I know you believe that so strongly. The whole song is like that. But, like, what does that practically look like to invite the Spirit into your life? Because people who are listening to this podcast, they might be believers, but I don't think most people pray that.
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Sadie Robertson
Right, right. Oh, let me tell them. Everybody watching, pray that, pray that. But it's what you said, it's inviting him in. You know, as big as God is, as much as he loves everybody, you have to invite them in. And some people invite them in some of their space, but not all of their space. And so it's the practical. Get up in the morning. Lord, I thank you for another day. Thank you for new mercy, having that time with them. Lord, go before me. Before we came, got on that plane today. Holy Spirit, go before me. Be in our time. Be in the questions, be in the answers, you know, so that you can be glorified and. And so that I can have a good day.
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Unknown Host
Yeah, that's real.
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Sadie Robertson
I want a good day. And he's smarter. He's smarter than I've ever been. Right? He knows. I remember I was in a ministry class years ago, and I remember the teacher, and I was grown married. You know, it was. But it was like an aha moment. The light. You ever heard something. You've heard it before, but the light finally comes in, comes on, and he said. He said, you guys, they were talking about the Holy Spirit. Invite him to come in, he said, because the Holy Spirit does not have to guess about anything.
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Unknown Host
Well, that light went on.
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Sadie Robertson
I'm like, what I'm going through life confused and perplexed. Wait a minute. He doesn't have to guess about anything. Oh, yeah, I need to know him. I need. I need to hear what he has to say, you know? And so it's raising your kids. Invite them in. If there's one regret I had in raising my children, and I only have two, I should have invited the Holy Spirit in more because a lot of times we just do what our parents did, which was good. I felt like I came out pretty good, you know what I'm saying? But they're two different individuals and the Holy Spirit has a plan for each one. And it doesn't mean it's the same because they're under the same roof. So invite them in when you're talking. Holy Spirit, I'm going in to talk to my daughter. Tell me what to say. How should I pray for them? If you invite them into those mundane moments, everything you do, just make it and you keep doing it until it becomes a habit, you know, you have to practice how to please him, you know, and if you practice enough, it becomes. It's not just what you do, but it's who you become that's great, you know, so just this, every little thing, just invite him in because he's there and he wants to show you and he wants to give you grace and he wants to give you wisdom and he wants. He said we're the head and not the tail. We're above and not beneath. And it's not. Not to say we're blessed. It's to be a blessing. It's great, you know, so. So yeah, invite them. I invite them everywhere.
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Unknown Host
I love that. I love that. That's such good parenting advice too. Like I'm, you know, in the thick of it right now with four year old. Yeah, almost four year old. Almost two year old. Almost a third. And it's so interesting because I have felt like there have been moments where I'm parenting honey and I'm doing what I, like would have thought would have been the right thing to do, or what I said I was gon to do. But something about it doesn't feel right in the moment. It's like maybe I thought, okay, in this moment I need to be like this. But then all of a sudden I feel the Lord being like, just go sit with her, you know? And then that's it. I sit with her and something beautiful comes out of it. And I'm like, I would have thought it would have been better to. Yeah. You know, and so I'm starting because.
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Sadie Robertson
The Lord knows what's happening. And it's. You said honey. I have a grandbaby named Honey, too. My son's daughter named Honey. But. But. But I love that. That is so huge. If people who are watching will get that, especially young moms, because God knows, honey, he knows at that moment what is going to make the greatest impact. And sometimes it's not sending them to the room. Sometimes it is hearing them out. Sometimes it's not spanking them. I grew up with spankings. I know people don't do it nowadays, but it works. But sometimes it's just holding him. You know what I'm saying? But when you invite him in and you put down what you think you know, he'll show up for you. And I think that would make a huge difference in their lives and in your relationship.
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Unknown Host
It's good. I think it is really important. I think, like, a lot of people have asked me, like, what books did you read? What parenting style? And I try not to. And this is just my personal thing. I know there are a lot of great books out there.
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Sadie Robertson
Great books out there.
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Unknown Host
There are a lot of great books out there. And if you find one that resonates or someone tells you about it, definitely lean into that. But I was like, for me, I read, like, one parenting book, and the way that I found myself feeling like, oh, I need to stick to this. But then being like, well, that might just not be right, you know, like, that might actually just not be right in this moment. And I feel like sometimes you do that. Like, you read a method or a parenting book, and you're like, okay, I got to do this, because this is the right way. And it's like, who said that was the right way? That person who wrote the book. But, like, what is God doing in this moment? And you're right. Like, every child is so different. Oh, my word. Honey and Haven are so different. They are best friends. They are the cutest things. They look a lot alike. But personality wise, could not be more different. I mean, honey, if I get her in trouble, it is like the end of the world. Haven kind of enjoys getting in trouble. She thinks it's funny. Like, that's gonna be a whole nother parenting thing. I need to lean into the Lord with. If you've been following me for a while, then you know that I love spending time in the Word, Whether it's journaling, studying, working on a book, or writing a new message to share. I am constantly in the Bible, highlighting and taking notes which means that my favorite Mr. Pen supplies are right there with me. Mr. Pen is a Christian company who makes and designs products specifically for using in your Bible. Their highlighters are specifically designed not to bleed through those thin Bible pages, leaving your notes a lot cleaner and a lot neater as you read. And with over 100,000 people who agree with me enough that they let a five star review on Amazon proving that Mr. Pin products are the best on the market. If you've ever used a specific for your Bible highlighter pen, you know the difference. It does not bleed through, it does not cause a mess, and it is so much nicer to do. The first time I tried Mr. Pin products, I was like, wow, this is actually amazing. And such a game changer. And now I use their products for everything. So whether you need a handy highlighter during a good sermon, a reliable pen for taking notes in class, or a range of cute products to enhance your journaling, Mr. Penn has you covered. Stock up on your Mr. Penn Bible Journal supplies today. Visit sadypens.com and be sure to check out my favorites. That's sadypens.com to get all your Mr. Penn Bible Journaling supplies. You will be so glad that you did, if you don't mind me asking, because I am learning a lot from you. What was your second regret? You said you had two.
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Sadie Robertson
Did I say two?
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Unknown Host
You said that's one.
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Sadie Robertson
Oh, well. Oh. The other one was I didn't have more kids.
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Unknown Host
Huh.
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Sadie Robertson
I stopped. I had a boy and a girl and I was like, again, doing my own thing. Well, I'll just stop there. And kids are the best.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
You get a chance to actually mold someone's life and, and you're, you're, you're, you're growing the kingdom of God too.
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Unknown Host
Yeah.
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Sadie Robertson
You know, and I had no issues or anything. I, I probably could have had plenty like my mom, but I, I was, you know, I was busy traveling and doing things and my husband and I both agreed, okay, we got a boy and a girl and we're set. But that, that, that's a regret of mine.
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Unknown Host
Wow. Thank you for sharing that. It's actually really, that's, that's interesting to hear you say, like, hindsight on your life, you know, because, you know, nowadays everyone's like, going for it. Your career, you're this or that.
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Sadie Robertson
And yeah, building a family is nothing. Nothing comes close to that.
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Unknown Host
Man, I'm so encouraged.
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Sadie Robertson
And in going back when I said the inviting the Holy Spirit, because when you're talking about honey and Haven, not Only are they different. They both have different calls on their life. I look back now, my son is my pastor. I'm like, oh, my God. I look back, it's like I see why he was so sensitive to people. He's a pastor.
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Unknown Host
Oh, my gosh.
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Sadie Robertson
What a brave boy.
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Unknown Host
That is so cool. Yeah.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah. And my daughter, she sound like. She's probably more like Haven, at least when she was little. But Ashley's really bold in the faith. You know, she's a great teacher. Really bold in the faith. And now I can see. I can look back now when they were babies and say, oh, my God, this is exactly who they are. So they made it. Thank God. Through the mercies.
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Unknown Host
Thank God.
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Sadie Robertson
But I do. I do know that if I would invited the Holy Spirit in, in their moments in raising them, it would have been better.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah.
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Unknown Host
Thank you for sharing that. That's so. That's so cool to hear you say. I heard someone ask you one time if you ever thought about doing more solo St. Not solo. Sorry. Like, not just gospel, not just Christian. Like, did you ever think about doing your own? And you said to them that. This is such a good quote. You said, once you find purpose, anything else is a step back. And I was like, whoa, that is so good. I want you to speak to that. Because so many people, especially in the age range of this podcast, are trying to figure out, like, what is my purpose in life? And maybe they have their career, this or that or the other. But, like, what was it like when you found that, discovered that, and how did you know, like, this is what I'm supposed to do?
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Sadie Robertson
Well, well, because your purpose really has. Okay. My purpose is to please God. We all have the same purpose now. The gifts that God gives us and how he wants to use them, them to, yes, fulfill our purpose, but mainly to build his kingdom and to, you know, fulfill the call that's on our lives. But. But the purpose. And I think this is where people mess up. They're so into their gifts and their ministries and their careers that we forget our purpose.
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Unknown Host
That's true.
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Sadie Robertson
Our purpose is to please God is to. Jesus said, go, make disciples. That's our purpose. And we use our gifts and talents to. To serve that purpose in a way. But. And the reason why it's hard for me to explain it is because, like, for instance, I'll tell you like this. I was. I was at a life group at church, and it was after the Devil Wars. I had. I had sang at the Devil wars. And when I got to church, the next day, cuz it was a Wednesday night. I think the devil wars was on a Tuesday night and a young man was there. He's like, wow, Pastor Cece, I didn't think I would see you here today, you know. And I'm like, why? He said, because it was such a big night last night. And I'm like, but this is real life here. This is my purpose here. And I think we put. The Bible says, seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and everything else will be added. Your career and ministry will be added at it. When you seek him first and you seek the things that he love and he loves people. He wants people to know who he is, you know, And I think we. We worry about the other. We. We put the carriage before the horse, you know. And the purpose is. Is pretty simple.
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Unknown Host
Y.
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Sadie Robertson
Just follow Jesus, be a disciple of Jesus, do what he does, and then everything else will be added. If that makes sense.
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Unknown Host
That makes so much sense. That makes so much sense.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah. So a lot of young people, it's just like, chill out and just do the purpose.
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Unknown Host
I love how you explain that.
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Sadie Robertson
If you do that and if. Let's say you're a singer and you. And that's what you feel like you're supposed to do, and God is going to. Calling you to do that, he's going to open up those doors. But if you go running after the doors and you lose sight of him, then you got to keep it up. You understand what I'm saying? I. I didn't get myself here, so I don't have to keep myself here.
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Unknown Host
That's great.
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Sadie Robertson
It's a lot of work if you're trying to keep yourself here. Because you know, God. God might call me to do something else. Like when he called us to pastor, I was like, you got to be kidding. Are you serious? You want me to pass? That was. That was nowhere on my radar.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
Ever in life. I was actually, when I heard, I was like, duh, wow. But I was like, yes, Lord. And. And I stopped. I came. I stopped singing for probably about. I shouldn't say stop singing. I kept singing in church. But I came off the road as an artist for probably about eight years, and I was focused on doing what God wanted me to do.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
And when it was time to come back, he was like, okay, it's time to come back. I was like, okay, Lord, you just do what you do, man. And. And he. He keeps doing it.
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Unknown Host
That's great. I love how you explain that. Actually. I think it's so beautiful. One of the things that I'm, like, so struck by by your life and so inspired by is the longevity of what you have been doing because how long have you been singing and playing?
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Sadie Robertson
Oh, my God. A. I can't believe it. I told you, When I started 17, I turned 60 last year, so I'll be 61 this year. So what is that? What's the math, y'all? A long time.
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Unknown Host
It's a long time. The math is a long time.
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Sadie Robertson
I can't believe it. I don't know where time went, but it goes fast.
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Unknown Host
That is wild.
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Sadie Robertson
Goes fast. Yeah. I tell everybody when I'm in concerts, like, I started out, can you give me an autograph? Yeah. Then it's like, can you give my mom an autograph? I'm like, can you give my grandma? And I'm like, I guess so, because I'm a grandmother and I'm loving it, you know? But, yeah. So it's been several, several, several years. Yeah.
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Unknown Host
What do you think? The. So one thing I heard someone ask you one time, and you told them, like, God always has more. You know, God doesn't run out of more.
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Sadie Robertson
Never.
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Unknown Host
And I think people really fear that he does.
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Sadie Robertson
I know.
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Unknown Host
Like, really. I think especially young people, like, it's like, oh, I gotta do everything right now.
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Sadie Robertson
Right.
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Unknown Host
But then to hear you say, oh, take eight years off. Like, some people can't even think about taking eight years off. But now you're still going. And not only that, but we already mentioned. And you've literally sang at the American idol finale last year and continue to win award. Like, not only are you still doing it, but, like, you're still doing more. Are you surprised by that?
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Sadie Robertson
God always surprises me. Yeah. I stay surprised. I live in a state of surprise.
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Unknown Host
That's so cool, though. Such a good testimony to, like, I.
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Sadie Robertson
Live in a state of surprise because. Because it's him. It is a good testimony. And. And, you know, one of the great things about getting older is that I'm able to look back and see the faithfulness of God. I'm able now at 60, 61, almost, I'm able to look at the scriptures and say, God, it was. It was true. And I'm able to do that. That. Because I. I did give him my heart as a kid, and I was able to live for him through elementary school and middle school and high school. And, you know, I was single just for a minute because I got married pretty young at 19 years old, so. Been married over 40 years now.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
You know, raised two kids. Kids have four grandchildren now. And I'm like, God, you're amazing. He's. I wouldn't trade him for anything in. In any of those stages. I would. I wouldn't trade him for anything.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah.
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Unknown Host
It was so beautiful.
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Sadie Robertson
The word. The word of God is right, and it's right all the time. And to me, it's the. It's the best life to live for so many reasons, but the one I'll pull out is the best life to live because you're letting him live it for you.
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Unknown Host
That's really good. You know, it's so beautiful because you are so beautiful. You really wouldn't know how old you are. I mean, you're not old. But to say 60, I was like, I actually am not sure how old you are. So I'm like, how? You're so stunning. But it's so important that people listen to stories of your testimony to say, like, no, all my life he has been faithful, actually, Goodness of God. Okay. It's so cool. Someone was talking to me, one of my friends, and they were like, I love that song so much. And they said, I wish someone older would sing it and can really, like, testify to, all my life you have been faithful and tell my generations. I said, well, have you heard CC Wine and singing? And she. I don't know how she hadn't, but she hadn't. And she listened to it. She's like, that's what I'm talking about. Like, I wanted somebody who had, like, the years to say it. And I think that, like, we have so many incredible, incredible people who are influencing people on social media, I mean, now influencers. But a lot of influencers are young. And it's actually just really refreshing to have an influencer who has, like, wow, generations behind me say no. Let me tell you something. Through my singleness, through my marriage, through having kids young, through now having older kids, and now having grandchildren, all my life.
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Sadie Robertson
All my life.
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Unknown Host
And there's not a season in my.
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Sadie Robertson
Life, not one season where he's let me down.
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Unknown Host
That is so encouraging. And that's why, you know, I said, listening to the album this morning, I'm so encouraged talking to you now. I'm so encouraged. The last thing I want to ask you is you mentioned you've been married for over 40 years.
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Sadie Robertson
Yes.
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Unknown Host
That's incredible. So many people who are listening to this podcast are in the process of figuring out who their spouse is going to be. Maybe they just got married. Maybe they haven't been yet. For you like you clearly had from a young age, a deep love for the Lord, sensitivity to the spirit. You had an idea of what you wanted to do in life. What would you say is like, super important in that life? Partner? Like when you look back and say, man, I'm so glad I married him, because this is the 40 years, you know, I think people need to think a little more seriously about why they're choosing who they're choosing. So, cece, we need your wisdom. We need your wisdom.
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Sadie Robertson
Oh, my God. That's a big question.
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Unknown Host
It is a big question.
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Sadie Robertson
It's a big question. Well, first of all, thank you for all the wonderful things you've said about me. But I always have to go back to those who went before me. And that's why I am honored. I am blessed to be here at this stage of life. And I pray that God will allow me to live longer because. Because those who went before me had such a great impact on my life. That's why I even started the conference Generations. It was like I knew it was my turn to pour into other people.
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Unknown Host
That's great.
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Sadie Robertson
There's no way, and I speak to women my age or older or maybe a little younger. Those of us who have been here for a little while, there's no way we should go to the grave without pouring everything out that God has poured into us. I owe him that, you know, And I'm here today because women prayed for me. They taught me how to live holy. They taught me how to be a good wife. They taught me, they taught me how to pray. They taught me how to get in my word. They rebuked me, they corrected me. You know, nowadays, everybody want to be offended if somebody corrects you. You can't get it right unless somebody corrects you. That's good, you know, and so I'm so grateful. And they did it all in love. So going to my husband. I remember because I was very young when I fell in love. His name is Alvin. Love. My last name is Love for everybody. Don't know that I'm stuck with Winans because I kind of got known with the Winans, but Love is my last name. But I remember even as a 19 year old girl who was so in love, I said to the Lord, I need my parents and my pastor, my spiritual leaders to have a peace about this because I didn't want to end up in a divorce court. I was like, holy Spirit, God. You can see ten years from now. I knew I was just Google eyed, you know, and so I said, submitted to that. And I remember when I met with my pastor at the time, he, he gave us, he told us he wanted us to separate for a little bit. He wanted to pray and fast and, and we obeyed that, you know, and they all gave me thumbs up.
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Unknown Host
Wow.
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Sadie Robertson
You know, and, and in the tough times that we've experienced in our marriage. Marriage, hey, I looked up to God, say, lord, I, I did it. I did it. Right? Yeah, I, I, I submitted. I did. You know, and that doesn't exempt you from, from going through rough times, but he's with you.
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Unknown Host
That's great.
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Sadie Robertson
And if you submit to him in the rough times, he'll take you through.
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Unknown Host
That's great.
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Sadie Robertson
But, but you have to do it his way. You know, a lot of times in marriage, we want to give a piece of our mind or, you know. No. The Bible says die daily. Wow. And so you have to, you have to do your part. You can't change your spouse. You do your part. And I remember times in our marriage where I was praying, lord, you know, Alvin's not doing this, and he needs to do this, and he's not doing this. The Holy Spirit would just be like, and what are you doing? And I'm like, what, me? I know I'm not wrong now, but the Holy Spirit always, He always shows you. You. And, and I learned as a young wife that prayer really does work. Not your mouth, because they weren't designed to do what we tell them to do. They're. They're the head even when you disagree with what they're doing, you know? But again, if we line up with the Word, then God will fight for you. So there's been times when I've prayed and then my husband would come back. You know what? I think I'm going to do such. I'm like, oh, really? Well, praise the Lord. I'll be like, yes, yes.
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Unknown Host
Isn't that the coolest thing, too, though? Because when those moments happen, it's like you feel loved by God and you feel loved by your husband, and it's so cool. I was so convicted of that, though, early on in our marriage, because I think, I actually think Christian. My husband called me out for this because we were, like, in a little argument, and then we both, like, walked away. And he's on a walk outside, and I'm inside, and he comes back and I said something about, like, praying. He's like, but you were just praying for me, weren't you? Like, for me to change my mind? I was like, yes, I probably should have prayed for myself. Too. But since then, since that little call out, I've been like, okay, little call out.
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Sadie Robertson
This is.
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Unknown Host
This is two of us. That definitely had a lot on me.
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Sadie Robertson
It might have something to do with this.
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Unknown Host
It had a lot to do with that. But, yeah, man. Just learning. But when. That's why, like, whenever I say to people, make sure God really is your foundation. Like, it's not just something you say. It's something that. That you actively, like, walk in.
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Sadie Robertson
You believe. You keep them there. You keep them there.
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Unknown Host
That cannot just be something. Like, that's just lightly said. Even I even say people say, oh, they're my best friend. I'm like, but are they really? Like, are they really your friend? Do you treat each other like friends? You know, because some I remember back in. I was younger, people would be like, oh, but they're my best friend. I'm like, y'all are horrible to each other. You're not even nice. Do you even have fun? Like, I don't think y'all are friends. You know, sometimes we say these things, but it's not just a saying. It's really walking it out. And if you're really walking it soon, you get 40 years down the road.
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Sadie Robertson
That's right. And like you said, two. When you say two people submitted to the word of God can make it, but you both have to be submitted to the word of God. And like you said, if that's your foundation, because. Because when you might not be able to come together, the word of God will tell you, you know, or a godly person, you know, will tell you how to get past that, you know, but if you're both submitted, then that means your. Your main goal is to please God.
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Unknown Host
Yeah.
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Sadie Robertson
And if your main goal is to please God, you're going to please each other.
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Unknown Host
Yeah. That's really good.
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Sadie Robertson
Yeah. You're going to please each other.
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Unknown Host
I love that. Well, I literally could talk to you all day long. I'm so grateful to get to sit here for an hour and listen to your wisdom. I am. Everything you say is so impactful, but truly, just your life testifies to the goodness of God. And so than you for just sharing your life with the public. Thank you for sharing your day with me today.
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Sadie Robertson
And thank you. Thank you. I mean, when I see you, I just. I'm just so excited because that's. That's my prayer for this generation, is that God will raise up young people who love them and just keep loving God with all of your heart, because God will take care of everything else.
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Unknown Host
Thank you so much. I appreciate that. And also, can people still get tickets to your Generations Club?
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Sadie Robertson
Yes, yes, yes. Go to Generations. Generations live conference. I believe.com it is. Yeah, go. Or you can go to my website and yes, you can still get tickets. Come. Come to Generations. It's May. It's Mother's Day weekend.
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Unknown Host
Oh, that's sweet.
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Sadie Robertson
Mother's Day weekend. So bring your mom and your grandmom and your sisters and your friends. Come to Generations conference because we're gonna.
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Unknown Host
Have to figure out how to.
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Sadie Robertson
We're believing God for authentic move of God.
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Unknown Host
So I love that. Yeah, well, definitely get there and go listen to her music today. You will be high level.