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The Line I Won't Cross on Social Media | Sadie Robertson Huff & Lindsey Gurk
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Lindsey Ger
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Sadie Robertson
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Colton
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Sadie Robertson
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Sadie Robertson
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Colton
What's up, fam? Happy Monday, everybody. I hope you're having a great start to your week. But, guys, it is about to get so much better. I'm literally so excited for the guests that we have on the podcast today. And guess what? We get to have her in person. We have Lindsey Ger. Many of you I know recognize her today in the office. You have been, like, the talk of the office. So weird. Thank you for coming to Louisiana.
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Lindsey Ger
Thank you for having me. I love Louisiana.
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Colton
It's awesome.
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Lindsey Ger
It's so nice. I've been to New Orleans once before, but no, the people are so nice. Where I'm staying is beautiful. It just. It feels good. And I'm so. I'm so excited to be here. So thank you for having me on.
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Colton
Oh, we're so excited. And truly, we do have a lot of people come into this office, but today all the girls, because, you know, this is Doug Commander. So we have a lot of people, but a lot of it's like guys and whatever. But you came in. Every girl that works here is like, oh, my gosh, I watch her TikToks, I watch her Instagrams. And so it's just a joy to get to know you more and to step into this conversation. So I'm gonna ask you the question to ask every single person who's on the podcast, and that is, Lindsay, what is the best piece of advice you have ever been given?
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Lindsey Ger
I'm prepared. I know it. So I was pregnant with my son, our firstborn child, and I had just lost my mom. And I was asking my mother in law, like, what do I do? Like, how do I be a mom? How do I do any of this? And she said, honey, you just love him and pray. And that's proven not to be true just with motherhood because there's so much information out there. And when you're trying to be your best and do your best, you know, you can get lost in it. So it's not only great for motherhood, but it's also great for just in life, you know, if someone mistreats you, you just love them and pray for them. And so it's like the best piece of advice that ever received and I'm grateful for it.
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Colton
I love that. Gosh, I am so glad you shared that. Because I remember whenever I first became a mom and having this moment in the hospital right after I had honey, I'm already feeling so overwhelmed with all the things I needed to do and had to do. And, you know, you're trying to figure out breastfeeding and you're trying to figure out this. All the while you're like hurting. And then, what am I going to do? It's like all the million questions of, what do you do? How do you do? How do I become a mom? And the fear of like, going home from the hospital when it's all on you. And I remember a nurse sat with me and had like the best conversation and just took so much pressure off of me of like, looking around at what people are doing on social media, all like, and just reminding me like, I am equipped with everything I need to be her mom, because the Lord made me her mom and that's enough, you know? And it was just like the greatest conversation at midnight with a nurse who was like an old lady holding honey Rocking her like, let me hold her. You rest. And it was so sweet. So I love that you shared that. And you are such a good example to so many moms out there. Like you. The way that you share your little videos that you do, like reenacting conversations you have with your kids is so funny. I can't wait to get into all of that. I also have to say the fact that your mother in law started it with honey is the greatest because. Does she talk like that?
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Lindsey Ger
She calls me honey? Yes, I love it. Honey. Before she drops some knowledge on me.
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Colton
Yeah, that's my great grandma. My great grandmother always starts it with, well, honey. Which is actually why I named my daughter honey because it just reminds me of my great grandmother and every time she's about to say something awesome, it starts with honey.
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Lindsey Ger
Yes.
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Colton
That's so good.
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Lindsey Ger
I love that.
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Colton
So I can't wait to hear all about just your story and what made you who you are. So take us back. Where did you grow up and how did you grow up?
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Lindsey Ger
I grew up in suburbs of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And we like to say we have a blended family. So I had, you know, we don't like to use step or but you know, brothers and sisters, which was great for me because I always wanted to have a big family. And I was an only child for like seven years, which is probably where my imagination comes from. You know, a lot of stuffed animals and. Anyways, so I went to school in University of Kentucky, which is where I met my now husband.
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Colton
Wow.
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Lindsey Ger
And I went to school for broadcast journalism. So I found a job. I wanted to be with my husband Mike. He was who he was, you know, it. So I moved to a small town in Nevada and started out with like news and sports. Quickly realized that I knew this is probably not the best for me. It was difficult to handle some of those stories. And I was told, you'll get used to it. And I was like, I don't think I want it to.
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Colton
I don't want to get used to it.
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Lindsey Ger
Yeah, I don't want to be desensitized to this stuff. Opportunity came up in Las Vegas, which is where my now husband was located. And it was entertainment and lifestyle. I was like, this is great. So did that. And I worked my way up from associate producer part time to producing, reporting, anchoring. And then I was the host of a show. And right around the time that all my like so called dreams were coming true, the pandemic hit. And I was doing social media as like, you know, a hobby, a way to make money. I was making some, not much. And I had been doing it for quite a few years. I think it was like six years at the time. And I told my husband. I was really down. I was pregnant with our second. Our daughter, Penny, and, you know, the world shut down, and I was really low. I just told my husband, you know, I don't think. I don't think I want to do any of this anymore. I think I want to quit my job at the station. He was like, okay, I support you, and said, I also think I want to quit social media. And he's like, why? You love that? I go, but I don't feel like I'm being authentic to myself. Like, I'm not going to get dressed up and sit in the living room when, you know, I'm not going anywhere and I'm eight months pregnant. Like, I'm sitting in my sweatpants. And he said, well, I support you no matter what, but you like this TikTok thing, right? Like, I just downloaded it. I go, yeah. He goes, well, just do that and have fun with it. Don't try and make money. Don't try and, like, do anything. So I was like, all right. And I decided, you know, because at the time, it was that, like, you know, take a picture in front of a pink wall with this pose, and you're all this stuff. So I was like, I'm just gonna be myself. I don't want to do what I see anybody else doing. And I'm. After my daughter was born, I was having a hard time. I was like, I just. It became an outlet for me, almost like a video diary, which turned into a very public video diary. So I was like, maybe I should dial it back a little bit. No, but. So that's how kind of social media got started. And God's hand was over all of it. Because I was like, I don't. Released. And he's had to teach me a few times over my life just to release control. And it's when I give up, you know, in a sense that he kind of. He just swoops in and he's like, amazing. Now I can show you what I had planned for you all along. And it's like, you just know. So my. My faith journey as well started in 2020, when my daughter was born. Wow. Because I knew I couldn't do it alone, and I needed help, and he was my help. And that was, you know, that was a journey as well. And it's like my favorite part of life, you know, my favorite story. To tell, but that's kind of the background on family and business and everything.
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Colton
Oh, my gosh. I have, like, a million questions. This is so cool. And it' Isn't it crazy where it normally is a moment when you surrender something, you're like, okay, I'm just gonna do it for fun. That. That's whenever it succeeds. There's one of my favorite verses. It's Psalms 127. It says, unless the Lord builds the house, the laborers labor in vain, eating the bread of anxious toil, but he gives his beloved sleep. And I've clung to that so much, because when I'm trying to do something in my own strength and strive and trying to make it happen, it's like you just feel like you're, like, hitting the. The roadblock and you are anxious and it's not working, and it's stressful. But then it's like when you let the Lord build the house, you actually get sleep. Like, it's restful. There's an ease to it. Like, you're having fun. You're basically just sharing your little diary, all this stuff. And then it's like, oh, people relate to that and love that, and of course they do, because it's human and it's who you are. So I love that that's your story. What were, like, some of your dreams as a child? Like, when you thought about, what do I want to be when. When I grew up, what was that?
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Lindsey Ger
I. And I stopped telling people this because I was told it made me seem a certain way. Like, Lindsay, you're smart, so maybe don't tell people this, but I wanted to do skits. I wanted to be on SNL and write these skits and have fun acting them out with, you know, other people. And I did want to. There was a point in time where I wanted to be on snl. I wanted to make skits. I wanted to sing. You know, I wanted to. If not write music, just sing. Just sing music. And, I mean, I wanted to be a mom always as well, but those were. Those were my biggest things. And I did want to do broadcast journalism, but I don't know, there was, like, some kind of shift. And so I find it interesting that God has placed me in this career path where I can do all the things, all. All the interests that he's given me, that he's put on my heart in one place, which isn't really. I don't know what other career that would be possible.
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Colton
I think that's so God, though, because it's like, you know, that verse he can do exceedingly, immeasurably more than we could ask for. Think of Dream of Imagine. And I think what we do is we go, okay, I like to sing, I like to do skits. I like to do this. But snl, that would be too far out. And how could I sing? Because there's so many like you. You kind of started getting too practical with your dreams. And then you go, okay, well, these talents also fit journaling and broadcasting and, and I can do some of that. And, and I feel natural in front of a camera, so I'll take it in this route, you know, and we kind of put it into the boxes that have been given to us. It's like we categorize our gifting into these boxes and we go, well, this must be what it is. And sometimes it is that, and sometimes you do that and you're the best broadcast journalism person that ever was, and you do it for the Lord. But then sometimes God goes, no, actually it is that. Like, I put that in you because that's what I'm gonna do in you. And now, like, you're literally doing skits. And that's what people resonate with. You sing so good. When you sing and you do these funny little things, I'm like, that was hilarious. But that was actually bomb. Like, Jesus should be actually singing songs. And then like, like, look at what the Lord is doing and you're sharing your faith. And motherhood is obviously such a huge aspect. And so it's so cool when if God gives you a God sized dream, like, let God kind of unfold it, you know? Cause it's so. So you talk about your faith being an aspect and you talk about 2021. Did you grow up a believer? Was that a part of your life?
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Sadie Robertson
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Lindsey Ger
So I went to. I went to church. I grew up going to church. And I think I was almost starting in high school. Like, I was starting to learn what trusting in Jesus meant, but I didn't know. And then I was for real wandering in the desert for over a decade and I felt stuck. I mean, like I told you, I just felt super stuck. And I felt not good about myself and every goal I had in mind. Even when I would reach that goal, it was like I'd feel nothing. And so I did not know what trusting in Jesus looked like. I did not know that I could have the relationship that I have with him. I didn't know that he wanted to hear from me all the time. I thought I was going to be a burden to him. And my prayers would be like, now I lay me down to sleep. Pray the Lord, my soul, please. God bless Mommy, Daddy, Mitch, Laurie, Michael, Christian, Maggie, Alex, Julie, John, and Whitney, you know, and like, and I would just, like, rattle it off. And if I forgot to say it the night before, I'd double it up the next morning just to be sure.
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Colton
I totally get that.
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Lindsey Ger
And so it wasn't until my mom was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. And that was hard. But the second time she was diagnosed was really even harder because you have this hope. And I saw such a change with her when she came to really follow hard after Jesus, which was so wild that sometimes you think, are you pretending? Is this. But she really changed that much. So. Lost my train of thought. Yeah. When my mom was sick, I came to the. I said that horrible prayer. Like, if you're there, show yourself.
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Colton
Yeah.
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Lindsey Ger
This is my last prayer. That's what I said. This is my last. Because you're clearly not listening.
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Colton
Wow.
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Lindsey Ger
And that night, I couldn't sleep, and I got up and opened my dusty Bible. It was, like, in my sock drawer for I don't know how many years. For real, like, an arm's length away. Never cracked it. And I opened it up, and something. There's purpose for me not remembering the verse that I read that night. But that's okay. But it touched me. So I told my husband. I was like, I want to go to church tomorrow. And he was like, all right, we go to church. He reads the same verse that I read earlier two nights ago. And so I knew. I was like, okay, you exist. You're listening to me. And then it's progressed from there, just with my son and my daughter and knowing that I can call out for him. And I did. I called out for him when I was really, really. As I was getting closer, I felt like maybe I was on the fence, like, I was trying to be on fire. But perhaps I was lukewarm. I don't know what was happening, but it was not a very comfortable position, and I had to cry out for help. And. I don't know. I feel like I'm talking a whole lot so we don't have to go on and on about that. But if you're interested, I'll share it.
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Colton
I'm very interested in your story. I think a lot of people relate to. I remember, like, when I was younger, I was a very anxious kid. Like, I had just a lot of natural anxiety. And when I say natural, like, I was. If I saw dark clouds, I'd be like, oh, the storm's gonna come. And then is my mom gonna be okay when the storm comes and I'm at school and she's there and, like, what's gonna happen or all this stuff. But in that anxiety, it also led me to be kind of fidgety where I would like if I touched something once or twice and the other side had to be touched twice. But then that led into my prayer life, whereas, okay, well, you know, if I don't pray the same thing every night. And it just got like my anxiety was kind of attached to my faith instead of like my faith overcoming my anxiety. Because faith was more looked at as like something I needed to do and not a relationship I was in. You know, it's like it's church. It's saying these prayers, it's doing these things. But not like, no, you are the God of the universe who made me and knit me together and know me and I'm coming to you with my anxiety and you're healing me. It was that kind of thing. And it sounds like in your life in some ways it was similar. It was like, I say this prayer, I do it the same way every night. If I don't tomorrow morning, I'm gonna get up on that. And it's like your relationship with God is in that aspect depending on your coming, your strength, your performance, your that instead of like his love.
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Lindsey Ger
It's interesting that you say that too. Because I had nervous tics as a child in adult life, I did not know how to handle things. I always thought it was up to me and only me, and it was a good thing to push it down to move forward. When I lost my mom, I was like, I didn't really grieve and I really thought, like, I grieve better than anybody. Meanwhile, I didn't grieve at all. So it was. It was all on me. It was taking control. And sometimes you have. And then I would flip flop you. Things would get so difficult, Colton. I'd be like, I want to be out of control. Which horrible things happened in those moments as well. You know, drinking too much and relying on things that aren't going to help you.
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Colton
Right.
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Lindsey Ger
And so then you. Yeah, I felt like completely out of control even when I was really trying to be in control.
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Colton
Yeah. But it's so interesting. Yeah. How we, like, as humans want control, but at the end of the day, it's like you don't actually want control cuz you don't want to carry the weight that control comes with. It's like actually you want to live in surrender because you want God to take care of the things. But in our flesh, it's like it feels more comfortable to control things. I Read this article the other day, and I was like, that is so interesting. It was talking about how many people you know die in a plane crash versus how many people die in a car crash. And it's like, way less for a plane, obviously, than a car. And not even way less. Like, the percentages are like, way less. And I was thinking about how many people are afraid to fly and, like, would rather drive. But it's like the numbers are there where you're like, actually, it's safer to fly than to drive. But why would we be less afraid? Well, because you're in control of the steering wheel. You're not in control in the plane. You're sitting in the seat while someone else drives you. That's the scary part. That's the part that you feel out of control in. And obviously you're way high in the air and all the other aspects of it. But at the end of the day, like, you, you don't have anything to do with it. And I think that's what makes people so afraid. And I think in the same way in life, it's like when you look at with God versus you being in control of your life, it's different, but it's similar to that of a plane and a car. It's like you don't want God to be in control because then you would have to sit and let him drive. You would rather be in control of the steering wheel because you feel like you have some sense of control over it. Except for then you have to miss every pothole and miss every car and be alert the whole time. Whereas in a plane, I love sleeping on a plane. I just sleep. And you wake up and you're there and it's like the beauty of walking with the Lord. And I think it's just, it's cool to hear your story in that of like, you once had this unhealthy relationship with control. It's like, I either want all control or I don't want any control. And like, we've all been there, you know? And then you found the Lord. You found a dusty Bible that you dusted off and read a verse and something sparked and it's so crazy. This is why I love hearing people like you tell their stories. Because I am looking at your TikTok yesterday and you're like the most on fire person for the Lord ever. I've never seen someone preach a message with more hype, more conviction. When you start talking about the blood of the lamb and you're like, do you understand what I'm saying, do you hear me with your car door? I'm like, this girl gets it. She read it, she received it. So to go from like, dusting my Bible off to, like, y' all gotta hear this. Every follower I have on social media, it's amazing. Like, God obviously did something in you. Tell me about your life with the Lord now. Like, how did you get from the dust in the Bible off to the hype you have for the Word?
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Lindsey Ger
He just. You know, people say he saved me. He has saved me so many times. But I remember the one time in particular, and this was when I had just started reading my Bible. And of course, when you're reading an Old Testament and you have control issues, perfectionist, it's like, yep, just as I thought, like, not good enough. So I might, you know, I'll keep going. I'll keep going. So I'm on. I'm crying. No one's at home. I'm crying on the bathroom floor. I had these horrible thoughts that didn't feel like my own to hurt myself. And it was really scary. It was the worst that it had ever been. And I was alone, and that felt like a good opportunity. And so I cried. But, like, there's something also in me that didn't want, you know. So I felt stuck again. I felt stuck. And I cried out on my bathroom floor. You know, God, if you're not gonna take this away from me. Cause, you know, I went to a lot of doctors. It's adhd, depression, anxiety, pmdd, ptsd, you know, acute, all this stuff. And so that became my identity. I was like, you're your second is after my second. And there were a lot of things that happened to me again. I was not good at processing anything. I would push it all down. So after our daughter Penny was born, it was like the box that I had hid everything in just cracked open. And it was time to deal with them, which really was just giving them to the Lord. But I was like, why? Why do I have to. You know? So I cry on my bathroom floor. I said, God, if you're not going to take this from me, then please take me. Please take me. And I'm just crying out, help me, help me, help me. Like, as loud as I can. And I felt not an audible voice, but it was like an interruption into my own screaming and my own thoughts. Get up. And it was when I say I stopped. This was like I was mid whale Sadie. I had snot coming out, like, slobber everything. And I. It took me off Guard. And I felt it again. Get up. So I obeyed this time. And the prayer changed. And I can't even take credit for the prayer because I feel like words were given to me. You know, the prayer changed from, if you're not going to take this, then take me to if. If your will is not to take this away from me, then please use it for someone else's good. And I did, you know, after the prayer, I was like, that was so good. I feel like, am I being fully honest? I was like, clearly, you know, that I would like for this to be. I want to be honest with you, but if you can allow. If you can allow me to be a wife and a mother while going through this, I would really appreciate that. And so I walked out of the bathroom thinking, like, well, if I have to wait till menopause, you know, just trying to do the math. And one month I didn't experience those symptoms. Two months, three months, four months. And I think it was around four or five months. I felt it in my heart. I was like, I have to share this with people. This is a miracle. I haven't changed anything. I haven't done anything. You know, I had tried eating the right foods, and finally I was like, you know what? I'm eating the frozen yogurt. I'm eating my salty popcorn. So anyways, he healed me.
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Colton
Wow.
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Lindsey Ger
And wow. So when you have an experience like that, it's hard not to want to tell everybody. And there have been many other really enjoyable experiences with him. Some I know I'm not supposed to share. Some I will when the time is right. But it's so when I read my Bible now, you know, you're like, does everybody know this? I've spent over 30 years not knowing this. You know the stories, but it's different. And then you can dissect the words and what they mean. And he's just in everything. He's big picture and he's in the detail. And his love is so overwhelming. And you know that everybody has the ability to resist receive it, and it's just about receiving it. And at the same time, you're like, he gives this to everybody, but he makes me feel like I'm the most important person in the world, even though I'm just a speck. So it's like, I just want. I want people to know that love. Because his love changes everything. It's not about what you do. And, you know, yeah, he guides you in what you're supposed to do.
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Colton
So good.
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Sadie Robertson
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Colton
It's so cool for me to hear you say that and to be in person with you and you to be the exact same that you are on social media. Like truly, that's like the most refreshing thing because we all should be that way. Like you should be the way that, you know, people think you are. And then to hear it's like, no, she really loves the Lord with all of her heart. And it's so cool because like you, you said you were doing social media for like six years. Even the pandemic, I guess so at this point it's been what nine, 10 years?
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Lindsey Ger
I think so, yeah.
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Colton
So you had like, a major spiritual awakening in the midst of, like, a social media career. And a lot of people choose not to share their faith on social media. People ask me all the time, like, how do you get comfortable sharing your faith on social media? And I always say, like, man, like, when you really love God and love people, it like, you can't. Not like, I can't. How could you keep it to yourself? You know, it wasn't even a thought. Am I not going to share some social media? It's so who I am. So it's going to be a part of what I'm a part of, you know, And I wonder for you, like, was it a thought? You know, a couple years ago when everything changed, were you like, oh, how do I introduce this into social media? What did that kind of transition look like?
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Lindsey Ger
I think the first big moment that I shared was when I shared what he had done for me on the bathroom floor. And that day I was like, trying to. I was praying, like, what do I do today? And I was going to do a skit. I was going to do that. Nothing was really happening. It was kind of like I didn't know what was going on that day. I'm like, you know, I have to get this out. I felt like I had to get it out. So I shared that. And of course, saying a prayer, like, let this open people's hearts to your love. Let them know you more. Reveal yourself to them. Like, you've revealed yourself to me. And I felt good. I did not feel any hesitation. And so, like, I'm making lunch. I'm like, you have that moment of, what did I just do? But it's true and it's. And it's right. And people need to know.
- [31:27]
Colton
And you don't normally think about it before. You kind of think about it after. That's when you know it's the right thing. Because you're like, do, do, do. And you're like, what are you supposed to.
- [31:35]
Lindsey Ger
And so it just. And then I. I really wanted to check myself. I did not want to use experiences with the Lord as a means to. Cause it is my business. I didn't want to insert him into my business just to gain likes or follows. So that's something that I pray on. And if there's something on my heart, it might take a few days or a few weeks.
- [31:57]
Colton
That's good. Yeah.
- [31:58]
Lindsey Ger
To share, because I don't want that to be. That's a tricky line. And I don't want to even teeter on that. But, yeah, and it's a joy to share it.
- [32:08]
Colton
It's awesome.
- [32:08]
Lindsey Ger
He just works everything. He works everything. Even all my struggles on that bathroom floor. I found out about the flamingos with getting their pig back.
- [32:18]
Colton
Yeah. Wait, talk about this. Oh, okay. We gotta get to it, because so many people know you from this story. I mean, you're wearing your hat. I just told you, I just bought the shirt. Because, you know, postpartum is a time, and I'm going to enter into it, you know, this fall. And I was like, I'm gonna go ahead and get my shirt. I'm gonna rock it the whole time. I got my pink right now. I'm gonna carry my pink with me. So tell us about that.
- [32:42]
Lindsey Ger
Oh, it was so wild. I was go again, going through it. I got invited. Gotta give credit where credit's due. Just classically, Cassidy. We had been messaging on Instagram DMs, and she was getting ready for the day. And I realized I used to love getting ready for the day and putting an outfit together and putting on some makeup and, you know, and I really fell out of that. And so I was like, I'm gonna start getting ready. Thanks for the encouragement. And she invited me. She's like, hey, we're going to Nashville for my birthday, if you'd like to come. I'm like, I don't know this girl. I don't know any of these girls. Going. My husband was encouraging. He's like, I think you should go. I think it'll be good for you. Don't know a whole lot of people on social media. He's like, it'd also be good for you, just personally. And I realized I hadn't really left the house in a long time. I was nervous to leave the house, so I did it. And while I was there, her really good friend Natalia told me. She's like, have you heard about this story of flamingos? I'm like, what? She goes, oh, so flamingos, male and female, can actually lose their pink coloring while they're raising their chicks, because so much of their food and their energy goes to their little ones. But eventually they get it back. And I was like, you know, the. It's called a dolly zoom, I think, in the movies. And it's like, I felt like that's what happened to her face. And I. I was like, oh, I want to get my pink back. I want to get my pink back. She's like, me, too. We're balling in the middle of this brunch in Nashville. And so I come home and I make a video about it, because I'm like, people need to know this. This is God's creation. He does everything for purpose. And if it hit my heart, surely it'll hit other people's hearts. And people were like, I'd love to get this on a T shirt or a sweatshirt. I. I don't know. You know, I don't know how to do that. I made T shirts for my sorority, so I'll get maybe a printing press. I took a little hole, and I didn't. I had no idea the interest in it. God invited eight people, I think, into our lives who knew how to do this, that, and the other. And I just felt like I could let him take the reins with it. And we went live, and I made peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for the kids. And I got a call like, are you seeing this? And it was all over, all over the world, just dots of people, you know, so it. That was such a cool moment. It made me sad to know that people struggled like I was struggling at the time. But it also made me feel less alone. So I hope that it makes people feel less alone, knowing that we all kind of go through it and, you know, I think that the flamingos get their pink back, like, even more vibrant.
- [35:27]
Colton
That's so cool. I love it so much. And it's so cool that all that kind of came after that time of you surrendering to the Lord and what God was doing in your life. And we talk about on social media, when you share something and you're like, oh, that felt vulnerable or that felt real. But it's like, that's what people relate to because, again, we're all human. That's what people need. Like, of course people feel the same way as you, because if you've had babies and that postpartum season has a. You know, that. That tends to be the time that a lot of things from past hits you, because you're sitting there for a long time and you're thinking about raising the future generation different than you. And all the different things that hit you that you don't think about. You think about you're gon be up at night. You think about, you're going to, you know, struggle in these different areas, but you don't think about, like, the emotional weight of things and the hormone levels and all the different stuff. And so you speaking to that is just so beautiful. It's so cool. Also, I just have to shout out, your husband sounds amazing. Like, there have Been like three stories in here that have been like. And I asked my husband, my husband said, do it or go for it. I just want to hear a little bit more about Yalls relationship. How did y' all meet at Kentucky and what made you fall in love with. With him?
- [36:35]
Lindsey Ger
We met in Kentucky. My, I was going to uk, he was going to Eastern and his best friend was dating my best friend, also my stepsister at the time. And they were like, you got to meet this guy. And I was like, I don't know, I don't know. And we met. He was wearing a green zip up hoodie I'll never forget. And we talked and I felt like, I don't know why. I felt like he heard me. I felt like he, he let me talk and like I wasn't talking too much for him. I felt like he saw me and two weeks later he was moving to Las Vegas. So I was like met the. I remember coming home, it was right after finals. I was like, mom, I met the love of my life and he's moving across the country. Like, what's my luck? I've been waiting around. And so I ended up, we did long distance relationship for a while and he's just always been my, he's just been my best friend and I get to do life with him. And we're, you know, marriage is all about like iron sharpens iron and stuff. So we have things that we work on and work out and we work together. So there are obviously going to be disagreements with that as well. But he's, he's a wonderful person and he. We both actually came to find the Lord after we got married. He described himself as agnostic and I had, you know, clearly a flaky faith. I didn't know what I was talking about walking around my cross. I'm calling myself a Christian. Meanwhile, I didn't know nothing. But we both came to find Jesus and he's just been, oh, he's just, he's such an amazing father and he's so supportive as a husband.
- [38:23]
Colton
So sweet.
- [38:24]
Lindsey Ger
It's hard working together but I'm also really, really grateful that we get to do it. We get to spend more time with one another.
- [38:29]
Colton
So sweet. I just love it because so many people ask the question, like on this podcast we've had many conversations about this, like how do you know that the one's the one? You know, people have so much anxiety, like how are they going to know? And it's so beautiful when you have people like you and your husband to share Your story. And like, tears get brought to your eyes because of the love that you have for one another and the respect you have for him. And it's like that's how you know, you know, like, he listened to you and he heard you and like, he made you feel so valued and loved. And then those aspects in a person and that in every story you've told have been true to his character. He listened to you and he gave you good advice and he was like, he's your partner, you know, it's so sweet. So how do y' all work together for social media? What does that look like?
- [39:13]
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- [41:00]
Lindsey Ger
We're still. We're still trying to Figure it out. He joined me with get yout Pink Back. Because there's a lot that goes into that, and I knew I could not handle all of it on my own. And the kids at the time were two days, I think, at school, I was really trying to do all of it.
- [41:19]
Colton
Isn't that what we do, Moms? You're like, this seems like a good time to. Great. Yeah, let's do full. Full send.
- [41:26]
Lindsey Ger
Man, I was so hard on myself. But looking back, it's like you were trying to do really kind of the impossible. So he joined me to help me with get yout Pink Back. And he oversees that in the communications and everything. But social media, like, @LindseyGerk, that is just me. And sometimes he will join in if I'm like, do you want to do this with me? So right now, we're trying to get him to kind of oversee everything because he's. He's more organized than I am. Am.
- [41:50]
Colton
Gotta love that. And a partner.
- [41:52]
Lindsey Ger
Oh, yeah. It's so helpful. And he's like, I don't think I am. It's like, no, you are. We'll just figure out the way that works for you. It might not look like we can make it up. We can. We can go our own way with this. So. So we're kind of figuring that out and having him oversee things. But it's. It's sweet. Fun. Yeah.
- [42:10]
Colton
That's awesome.
- [42:11]
Lindsey Ger
And he loves get yout Pink Back, too, because I had to check in. Like, is this what your heart wants to do? You know? He's like, I love it. I love it. And he goes. And it resonates with me. Me as a man as well. He's always wearing his. He's always wearing his Gatorade.
- [42:25]
Colton
He's rocking his gator piece. That's so sweet. That is very much so Christian, too. He's like, when you're on maternity, do you want me to host your podcast? Like, he's always just like. He's just my support. And it's, like, so sweet because he believes in what I'm doing just as much as I do. Like, that's so cool to have a teammate in that. One thing I love about you, too, is you have a lot of discernment when it comes to social media. Like you said earlier, I don't just want to put out what the Lord says to me. That's a treasure in my heart. And some things are meant to share and some things are not. And you discern when the right time is. I feel like I'VE walked through a lot of different times in my life where I'm like trying to discern how to use my social media because it's like what is too much to share, what feels right to share, what's okay for me to just keep to myself like all those different little things. And one thing, I know you don't share your kids on social media, but you act out your kids lives, which is hilarious. Like how did you come up with that idea? And the discernment of were you praying through like should I share my kids or thinking through that? And that's how you came up.
- [43:21]
Lindsey Ger
This was something that it was like kind of brought to my attention and I started seeing more and more things about it. The first skit I did was really just Penny, like was one of those days where they were both down for a nap at the same time. And I think I got like a sandwich in me and I was like, I feel energetic. What are they? I wonder what they're thinking because at the time it was just mayhem in our home. So I did a little skit of what I thought a conversation would look like between a two year old and a newbor and that kind of took off. I was like, well this is great because I can do this at nap time. And I really enjoyed it. But as far as showing their face, it kind of slowly was like less and less. And I know that first it was ads. Like I knew I didn't want them to be part of campaigns because they don't want to their kid. This is my job. This is not their job. They deserve to be kids. Just like how I was a kid. Not having to put them in the perfect clothes and then they can't play or get anything on it because we gotta take a picture. I didn't want that. And then it just kind of slowly I would notice Ollie cause he's older, you know, he would do a little bit of a performance. Even if the kid like when the camera's out, whether people realize it or not, there's a little bit of a performance that goes into it. And I didn't want him to do that in these special moments. And so then I was like, you know what? Just reading more and more into it, I'm like, this isn't a fear thing. I'm not anxious about it. Trust the Lord. But this is what we need to do. For whatever reason, without judging how other people handle it. Like for whatever reason, this is on my heart and we have to stop. And I mean, I'm a Mom and my kids are really cute and fun, so I do have those moments where I want to share, but I know this is better and the kids understand it too. So, I mean, one day when they're older, they are little, we get a show every evening after dinner, so maybe they will, although I don't really want them to, but we'll see.
- [45:26]
Colton
Isn't that funny? Because for me, it was a lot of fear, like, reasonings why not to share. And so it's so cool for you to be like, it wasn't fear, it's just what I felt was right, but it was fear because of me growing up, like in the spotlight, which I'm so thankful for, obviously, because it's led me into to what I do now, which I love so much. But I also like, know all the bad that comes with that and the scary things that come with that. And it's like, I don't want my kids to go through that, you know? But my husband helped me a lot in the processing of it all because he had. He didn't have the fear attached to his discernment. You know, he was more like looking at it from a picture of hearing what I'm saying, knowing what God's called our family to. And for right now, this is what felt, you know, right. And it's so cool because we had so many talks about it when we had kids. Well, we didn't know four years later we'd be filming another TV show. And they're a part of it. And we're so grateful for that. But we're like, we would not have been able to say yes to this if we wouldn't have had those prayers and conversations four years ago before we even had honey. And like, what is that gonna look like with our life? You know? And so everybody's different, you know, you do. You have to like, ask the Lord what feels right for you and your family. And sometimes it feels right in one season, not in the other. Like there. I love the close friends feature on Instagram. That is like where I share actually my kids life, you know, because it's like, that's actually my friends and family. And then, you know, they're a part of our lives. So we do post and share and stuff like that. And so yeah, it's just cool that everyone can do it differently. But you got to do what's right for you. And I just love the way that you've done it. It's so beautiful to see.
- [47:03]
Lindsey Ger
And you do a lovely job too, especially growing up the way that you did. And there's a difference between like this is a picture that we took Easter Sunday and I'm having my children be part of my content every single day. They have to do it. This is just as much their job and duty as it is mine. There's a big difference in that.
- [47:20]
Colton
I agree. I feel like there is. It's not as simple as like, yes, share no, not like there are, you know, things to navigate within that and how that looks different for for sure. So thank you for that encouragement. That means a lot. I want to talk to you about the most recent things you've been posting because you have been so vulnerable in sharing your story with painting the wall where there's a hole in the wall. Can you tell that story and kind of what y' all been walking through a little bit? I don't know about you, but I love new adventures. Whether it's traveling, trying out a new hobby, learning a new skill, or diving into a new audiobook, I'm always looking for something that will take me in a new direction. And that is why I love Audible. Audible has thrills, chills and epic journeys right at your fingertips. So whether you love electrifying, sustain, suspense or romance in far off realms, there's something waiting just for you. At Audible, you'll find gripping stories that keep you guessing and Audible originals that deliver exclusive, can't miss experiences. And Audible always has you covered with the latest new releases and bestsellers. Maybe it's a heart pounding suspense like Laura Dave's the Last Thing He Told Me or a thriller like Ted Decker's Outlaw. The excitement never stops. With over a million audiobook podcasts and originals in one easy app and a title you get to keep each month, Audible is the ultimate companion. My brother John, Luke and Bella are always trying to get me to listen to like thrillers and all this stuff. Which is not my typical cup of tea, but I'm excited about diving into these. But my typical things like I listen to an Audible were raising passionate Jesus follower kids. I love to listen to good advice. As you know, that's what my podcast is all about. So I do the same for myself. I love stuff like that and they have so many great options on Audible. So start listening and discover what's beyond the edge of your seat. New members can try Audible now for free for 30 days and dive into a world of new thrills. Visit Audible.com Whoa or text the word Whoa to 500 500. That's Audible.com Whoa or text the word Whoa. W H O A to 500. 500.
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Lindsey Ger
Yes. So we had been. We trust Jesus, we know God's timing is right. We had real. I. My husband and I had been trying for a third, actually when I was in the hospital having our second, I was like, I could totally do this again. So this was always on my heart and my husband was on board and I realized we had been trying for two and a half years and I'd have to do the math. It might even be. Yeah, two and a half seems about right. Make sure I'm not lying, you know. And it was a few months back, maybe around the two year mark, maybe a little after I got a nine, I got my period again. Or I got another pregnant. Negative pregnancy test. And I got so mad and I was mad the whole day and I was mad at my husband, you know, and it just seemed like everything really upset me. And sometimes I don't always know why I'm upset and I have to like go back to, you know, again, still learning how to process things.
- [50:35]
Colton
Totally.
- [50:36]
Lindsey Ger
And I took my empty moisturizer thing and I. And I threw it at the bathroom with wall. And I gotta be honest though, Sadie, it really helped me. I felt really good after.
- [50:45]
Colton
I did just kind of throw something.
- [50:47]
Lindsey Ger
I kind of. My husband was in the room and I. We both kind of went. I go, I'm just gonna need a minute.
- [50:53]
Colton
He's like, okay, so those are the moments in marriage, like when you do something and like, you know it's gonna be funny later, but it's not funny right now. Cuz you're like, no, I really am mad. So you look at each other. Yeah, I just did that. And I needed to and it felt good. And we can talk about it later and maybe laugh, but not right now.
- [51:10]
Lindsey Ger
I'm like, whoa. I don' But I was. It really like calmed my nervous system. Like, Lindsay, you cannot make a habit of doing this. You know, it takes time to patch walls up, but man, it felt good. And so I told. I talked to my husband about that and we did laugh about it. Shortly after, I'm like, I'm really upset about this. Come to find out, he was really upset about it too. We had been hiding our feelings from one another and sometimes I think we're like, we trust in the Lord and you feel like, well, I need to show people that I'm trusting in him. Meanwhile, you're heartbroken. That's part of it. This is part of the surrender. Like, I'm giving it up. Whatever you have planned and so I didn't want that whole patched up because I'm like, it happened. It helped me. This is the reality of what's going on. And he. He makes, you know, he can turn ashes into something really beautiful. He always does. My whole life, he's always done it. And so we were finger painting with the kids, little whatever kind of craft we were doing. And we had finger paint. I'm like, that's it. I know exactly what I'm gonna do today. So I just wanted a cross and maybe some flowers. And that turned into flowers for the twins that my mom miscarried when I was younger. And children, my sister miscarried. And just the hand, everything, it was just so enjoyable. And I really was only to do like a 30 second thing. Like just. It was going to be healing for me. I didn't really even have a plan in place, but I recorded. I ended up recording the whole thing with all the music. And he just showed up for me in such a beautiful way. And you know, that feeling like you just. I felt. I felt overwhelmed by his presence. And it was lovely and it was healing and it's still there.
- [53:02]
Colton
The video is beautiful. Thank you. Like, in the worship songs that came on at the record right time. That was crazy. That's so the Lord, he's like speaking. Yes, I. I loved it that you shared it and. And the way that you did it. Because I think a lot of people wait to draw the picture when they have the positive pregnancy test. You know, it's like. And you wait to tell the story until, like, the miracle comes. And I love that you are finding beauty in the middle of it. Like, you're, you're. There's a song, it's not even out yet, but one of my friends wrote it for Ella Worship and she actually had just miscarried and she wrote this song called I Remind Myself. And it is like, I can't wait for it to be out. I'm going to send it to you after this for you to have. But it's like I remind myself that you're faithful God, that is who you are. And she talks about how she's like speaking in the bridge and she's talking about how, like, I know these tears will grow a garden someday soon. I watch these dead things bloom and you. She just started speaking that over herself and singing that over myself. I remind myself you are faithful God. That is who you are. These tears are going to grow a garden one day soon. I'll watch these dead things bloom. And she Started speaking over herself. The verse that says what I. What does it say? Like when I. When I sow in tears, I reap in joy. It's in psalms. And anyways, she actually did just have a baby and she named her Joy. And it's like just been this beautiful testimony. And recently we did this live recording. She sang it while holding Joy and her brother is my brother in law. And so I hear somebody crying behind me. I thought it must my sister, because my sister Bella has been very honest about her walking through infertility. They've been trying for a couple years and it's been really, really hard. So I thought my sister was crying. So I went to like hold her hand and be like, this is, this is your story. You know, let's like remind herself. Well, I turned out it was Jacob crying, it was my brother in law. So then we're all just like weeping. And it was just the reality of like, it is hard, you know, like it is okay to just say like, it is hard. And some days you want to throw a bottle at the wall and some days you do, you know, and like, like legitimately watch my sister walk through that, like it's very hard. But then walking that out in faith is saying like, I do believe though, God, that you're still faithful, that you're still good and, and you're going to be good when the miracle comes and we're going to rejoice in that. But you're also still good right now. And that's what. But watching you paint, that was really beautiful. To see somebody in the midst of it when it's still hard, like put across and put the beauty, you know, it was really vulnerable to share and it was really beautiful.
- [55:41]
Lindsey Ger
I. I really appreciate when I will see a documentary or something and someone is just coming to the Lord and you can see them in their nitty and they're gritty and they're like, but if you knew me a year ago, like, I know this isn't right right now. I know it, that he's helping me. And that's not even what I wanted to show. I just was like, I don't really know what I'm doing. Sometimes I'm just letting him lead me. But to only see people say, yes, I trust in the Lord because he did this. Sometimes it would make me feel like I'm doing something wrong. I still mess up. So who am I to even talk on this? Especially with social media, you know, Know I do. I mess up. But that's okay. That's me, I say I followed Jesus because I need him. Like, I really, really need him. Every day, every moment.
- [56:30]
Colton
Yes.
- [56:31]
Lindsey Ger
So I really like when people share in the midst because it's easy to share afterwards, but in the middle, we need to see that sometimes. And it's not always pretty, but he's always there, and it's just part of it.
- [56:44]
Colton
I love how you shared it. It was so, so beautiful. So this has been so encouraging. I am so encouraged by who, you, family, by what you do. I like, truly, I. You never know. Going to these conversations, all of them are good, and then some of them are just great. And I'm just so thankful to and encouraged to know that so many people follow you and are learning from you and going on the journey of life with you because you are such a great example to so many. No, truly, because you're real. Because you're real and you make people laugh. And people need to laugh. Like, people need to be funny and not take themselves too seriously and turn on the camera and just be goofy, even in their day. You, like, put on a dress and you're like, yes. And I've worn this before, but clothes are meant to be worn several times. Like, somebody say it. Somebody say that, because can I not rewear clothes? Because right now, as I'm pregnant, I'm like, I'm gonna be rewearing this a lot because it's the one thing that fits. So thank you. You know, so you're just relatable in so many ways. Thank you for who you are, and thank you for sharing your story on this podcast. It was a. It was a gift.
- [57:44]
Lindsey Ger
Thank you so much.
- [57:48]
Colton
Sam.