Podcast Summary: Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer
Episode: Astrology's Effect in Relationships (w/ Nathan Mitchell)
Date: April 10, 2026
Episode Overview
In this lively and open-hearted conversation, comedian Nicole Byer sits down with actor Nathan Mitchell (Black Noir on The Boys, Zion on Ginny & Georgia) to explore the complexities of dating, relationships, and how astrology weaves into it all. They swap hilarious dating stories, discuss handling fame and thirsty DMs, unpack personal values in relationships, and take a deep-dive into Nicole’s birth chart. The episode is candid, warm, and packed with laughs, insightful moments, and a playful energy characteristic of Nicole’s style.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Relationship Status, Dating ‘Limbo’ & Breakups
- Nathan’s Relationship Status:
- Nathan describes his current relationship as complicated and in a state of “limbo,” highlighting the value of honest conversations even when there is uncertainty.
- “At least we’re on the same page about not being on the same page.” (Nathan, 05:24)
- On Breakups & Long Distance:
- Nathan discusses the challenges of dating while managing the workload and travel demands of acting, including maintaining relationships across cities and ending things gently.
- Notable moment: Nathan recounts ending a relationship on the phone just before boarding an international flight so as not to ruminate throughout a 10-hour trip (18:09).
Dating Stories: The Fun, Awkward, and Bloody
- Worst Date Disasters (06:27):
- Nathan’s boat trip date: His date got drunk and got physically playful (air humping) with someone else at the party, even though he was gay.
- “For her it’s like, ‘well, he’s gay, it’s like, fine.’ And I’m like, yeah, I love that.” (Nathan, 08:05)
- ‘Bloody Makeout’ Anecdote (08:41):
- Nathan once made out with a woman who “etched herself” into his skin by digging her nails in so hard his forearms bled. Nicole is both grossed out and amused.
Fame, DMs, and Thirst
- Social Media After TV Fame (10:04):
- Thirsty DMs, erotic poems, and a deluge of attention:
- “I think someone sent me like a fairly erotic poem.” (Nathan, 10:15)
- Nicole shares she once got sandwich-making photos instead of nudes—a unique form of flirtation.
Culinary Tangents & Comforts
- Food Accounts & Ninja Creamy (11:29–13:11):
- Discussion on the joy of watching food content but distaste for unnecessarily sexualized cooking videos.
- Nicole raves about her Ninja Creamy ice cream maker and serenades about ice cream.
- Food disasters and brags (like Nicole’s failed orange creamsicle and Nathan’s brunch “salt in the coffee” story).
Values, “The Perfect Partner,” & Relationship Advice
- On What Makes a Good Partner (22:43):
- Nathan prioritizes value alignment, similar philosophy, and matching life visions over just chemistry:
- “What I’ve been putting my attention on is like, am I aligned with this person? Do we have the same values, philosophy on life?” (Nathan, 22:47)
- Advice for Singles (28:10):
- Nathan’s advice is to know and be honest with yourself:
- “You can only meet someone as deeply as you’ve gone with yourself.” (Nathan, 28:15)
- Nicole echoes the importance of clarity around what you want in a relationship.
Astrology Deep Dive
Nathan’s Background in Astrology
- Nathan has studied astrology since 2008, crediting it for helping him understand himself and others (29:20, 45:59).
Nicole’s Birth Chart Reading
(Timestamps: 34:46–45:58)
- Details Provided:
- Birthdate: August 29
- Time: 8:09am
- Place: Red Bank, New Jersey
- Findings:
- Virgo Rising
- Sun in Virgo (12th House) – Tendency toward privacy, inner self-improvement, rules, and service, but the Virgo energy is more hidden.
- Moon in Gemini (10th House) – Publicly expressive, loves to talk, channels emotional life through communication and career.
- Venus in Libra (2nd House) – Values balance and harmony in relationships, dislikes conflict, relates to self-worth and money.
- Mars in Capricorn (4th House) – Energized home life, strong roots, likes to build a home base, seeks security.
- Pluto in Second House – Money and resources carry extra psychological intensity; relates to finality, survival, and past lessons (38:48).
- Sagittarius on Fourth House Cusp – Suggests freedom and travel-orientation at home, possible connections to touring life.
- Jupiter in Sixth House – Amplifies travel and work interconnection.
- Notable Moment:
- Nathan emphasizes, “Knowing about someone is different than knowing them... it doesn’t substitute for the experience of, like, connecting with you.” (Nathan, 33:27)
Tarot Chat
- Nicole reveals she’s skilled at tarot, but only with her own deck, and describes the limits of doing readings outside her home (48:24). Nathan enjoys the Rider Waite deck and uses card symbolism for nuance in his readings (50:00).
- “Sometimes we’ll ask too many questions and we get really bad cards, and it’s tarot’s way of being like, fuck off.” (Nathan, 49:51)
Other Memorable Moments & Quotes
- AI Theories & Acting:
- Nathan jokes about fans thinking he’s an AI due to his on-screen movements, blaming TV settings:
- “Before you know it, I’m... the first version of ChatGPT on television.” (Nathan, 24:41)
- Singing on Set:
- Stories of singing “I wanna be your lover” on set after wrapping Ginny & Georgia at 4am (27:29).
- Pokemon Karaoke:
- Nicole: “I have a tattoo of Jigglypuff.” (51:50)
- They sing the Pokémon theme song together to close out (52:20).
Timestamps for Important Segments
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic |
|----------------|----------------------------------------------|
| 03:29 – 05:28 | Nathan’s relationship ‘limbo’ |
| 06:28 – 08:37 | Boat trip date horror story |
| 08:41 – 09:53 | Bloody makeout story |
| 10:04 – 11:02 | Fame and thirsty DMs |
| 12:01 – 13:11 | Ninja Creamy and ‘Creamy’ theme song |
| 18:09 – 18:27 | Breaking up before a plane trip |
| 22:43 – 23:34 | The perfect partner discussion |
| 28:10 – 28:59 | Advice to single listeners |
| 29:20 – 31:56 | Nathan’s astrology journey |
| 34:46 – 45:58 | Nicole’s full astrology chart reading |
| 48:24 – 50:23 | Tarot card chat |
| 51:50 – 52:20 | Pokemon tattoos & karaoke |
Tone & Style
The episode is conversational, playful, and candid. Nicole’s signature brash humor and enthusiasm for all things dating are matched by Nathan’s thoughtful, gentle introspection and openness. They both balance humor with vulnerability, often detouring into relatable tangents about food, work, and internet culture.
Notable Quotes
- “At least we’re on the same page about not being on the same page.” (Nathan, 05:24)
- “You ever make out with someone so hard they etch themselves into your skin?” (Nicole, 09:25)
- “Knowing about someone is different than knowing them.” (Nathan, 33:27)
- “You can only meet someone as deeply as you’ve gone with yourself.” (Nathan, 28:15)
- “Sometimes we’ll ask too many questions and we get really bad cards, and it’s tarot’s way of being like, fuck off.” (Nathan, 49:51)
- “I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was...” (Nathan, 52:20, singing Pokémon)
Episode Highlights
- Honest exploration of dating uncertainty and boundary-setting
- Candid tales of both disastrous and hilarious dating experiences
- Reflection on how public exposure changes the dynamics of dating
- A robust, beginner-friendly astrology breakdown using Nicole’s own chart
- Fun musical tangents and a sense of genuine camaraderie throughout
This episode is perfect for anyone interested in astrology, dating mishaps, or just wants to laugh and learn with two charismatic, open-hearted hosts.