Astrology's Effect in Relationships (w/ Nathan Mitchell)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer

Episode: Astrology's Effect in Relationships (w/ Nathan Mitchell)
Date: April 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and open-hearted conversation, comedian Nicole Byer sits down with actor Nathan Mitchell (Black Noir on The Boys, Zion on Ginny & Georgia) to explore the complexities of dating, relationships, and how astrology weaves into it all. They swap hilarious dating stories, discuss handling fame and thirsty DMs, unpack personal values in relationships, and take a deep-dive into Nicole’s birth chart. The episode is candid, warm, and packed with laughs, insightful moments, and a playful energy characteristic of Nicole’s style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Relationship Status, Dating ‘Limbo’ & Breakups

• Nathan’s Relationship Status:
  • Nathan describes his current relationship as complicated and in a state of “limbo,” highlighting the value of honest conversations even when there is uncertainty.
    • “At least we’re on the same page about not being on the same page.” (Nathan, 05:24)
• On Breakups & Long Distance:
  • Nathan discusses the challenges of dating while managing the workload and travel demands of acting, including maintaining relationships across cities and ending things gently.
  • Notable moment: Nathan recounts ending a relationship on the phone just before boarding an international flight so as not to ruminate throughout a 10-hour trip (18:09).

Dating Stories: The Fun, Awkward, and Bloody

• Worst Date Disasters (06:27):
  • Nathan’s boat trip date: His date got drunk and got physically playful (air humping) with someone else at the party, even though he was gay.
    • “For her it’s like, ‘well, he’s gay, it’s like, fine.’ And I’m like, yeah, I love that.” (Nathan, 08:05)
• ‘Bloody Makeout’ Anecdote (08:41):
  • Nathan once made out with a woman who “etched herself” into his skin by digging her nails in so hard his forearms bled. Nicole is both grossed out and amused.

Fame, DMs, and Thirst

• Social Media After TV Fame (10:04):
  • Thirsty DMs, erotic poems, and a deluge of attention:
    • “I think someone sent me like a fairly erotic poem.” (Nathan, 10:15)
  • Nicole shares she once got sandwich-making photos instead of nudes—a unique form of flirtation.

Culinary Tangents & Comforts

• Food Accounts & Ninja Creamy (11:29–13:11):
  • Discussion on the joy of watching food content but distaste for unnecessarily sexualized cooking videos.
  • Nicole raves about her Ninja Creamy ice cream maker and serenades about ice cream.
  • Food disasters and brags (like Nicole’s failed orange creamsicle and Nathan’s brunch “salt in the coffee” story).

Values, “The Perfect Partner,” & Relationship Advice

• On What Makes a Good Partner (22:43):
  • Nathan prioritizes value alignment, similar philosophy, and matching life visions over just chemistry:
    • “What I’ve been putting my attention on is like, am I aligned with this person? Do we have the same values, philosophy on life?” (Nathan, 22:47)
• Advice for Singles (28:10):
  • Nathan’s advice is to know and be honest with yourself:
    • “You can only meet someone as deeply as you’ve gone with yourself.” (Nathan, 28:15)
    • Nicole echoes the importance of clarity around what you want in a relationship.

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Astrology Deep Dive

Nathan’s Background in Astrology

• Nathan has studied astrology since 2008, crediting it for helping him understand himself and others (29:20, 45:59).

Nicole’s Birth Chart Reading

(Timestamps: 34:46–45:58)

• Details Provided:
  • Birthdate: August 29
  • Time: 8:09am
  • Place: Red Bank, New Jersey
• Findings:
  • Virgo Rising
  • Sun in Virgo (12th House) – Tendency toward privacy, inner self-improvement, rules, and service, but the Virgo energy is more hidden.
  • Moon in Gemini (10th House) – Publicly expressive, loves to talk, channels emotional life through communication and career.
  • Venus in Libra (2nd House) – Values balance and harmony in relationships, dislikes conflict, relates to self-worth and money.
  • Mars in Capricorn (4th House) – Energized home life, strong roots, likes to build a home base, seeks security.
  • Pluto in Second House – Money and resources carry extra psychological intensity; relates to finality, survival, and past lessons (38:48).
  • Sagittarius on Fourth House Cusp – Suggests freedom and travel-orientation at home, possible connections to touring life.
  • Jupiter in Sixth House – Amplifies travel and work interconnection.
• Notable Moment:
  • Nathan emphasizes, “Knowing about someone is different than knowing them... it doesn’t substitute for the experience of, like, connecting with you.” (Nathan, 33:27)

Tarot Chat

• Nicole reveals she’s skilled at tarot, but only with her own deck, and describes the limits of doing readings outside her home (48:24). Nathan enjoys the Rider Waite deck and uses card symbolism for nuance in his readings (50:00).
  • “Sometimes we’ll ask too many questions and we get really bad cards, and it’s tarot’s way of being like, fuck off.” (Nathan, 49:51)

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Other Memorable Moments & Quotes

• AI Theories & Acting:
  • Nathan jokes about fans thinking he’s an AI due to his on-screen movements, blaming TV settings:
    • “Before you know it, I’m... the first version of ChatGPT on television.” (Nathan, 24:41)
• Singing on Set:
  • Stories of singing “I wanna be your lover” on set after wrapping Ginny & Georgia at 4am (27:29).
• Pokemon Karaoke:
  • Nicole: “I have a tattoo of Jigglypuff.” (51:50)
  • They sing the Pokémon theme song together to close out (52:20).

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |----------------|----------------------------------------------| | 03:29 – 05:28 | Nathan’s relationship ‘limbo’ | | 06:28 – 08:37 | Boat trip date horror story | | 08:41 – 09:53 | Bloody makeout story | | 10:04 – 11:02 | Fame and thirsty DMs | | 12:01 – 13:11 | Ninja Creamy and ‘Creamy’ theme song | | 18:09 – 18:27 | Breaking up before a plane trip | | 22:43 – 23:34 | The perfect partner discussion | | 28:10 – 28:59 | Advice to single listeners | | 29:20 – 31:56 | Nathan’s astrology journey | | 34:46 – 45:58 | Nicole’s full astrology chart reading | | 48:24 – 50:23 | Tarot card chat | | 51:50 – 52:20 | Pokemon tattoos & karaoke |

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Tone & Style

The episode is conversational, playful, and candid. Nicole’s signature brash humor and enthusiasm for all things dating are matched by Nathan’s thoughtful, gentle introspection and openness. They both balance humor with vulnerability, often detouring into relatable tangents about food, work, and internet culture.

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Notable Quotes

• “At least we’re on the same page about not being on the same page.” (Nathan, 05:24)
• “You ever make out with someone so hard they etch themselves into your skin?” (Nicole, 09:25)
• “Knowing about someone is different than knowing them.” (Nathan, 33:27)
• “You can only meet someone as deeply as you’ve gone with yourself.” (Nathan, 28:15)
• “Sometimes we’ll ask too many questions and we get really bad cards, and it’s tarot’s way of being like, fuck off.” (Nathan, 49:51)
• “I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was...” (Nathan, 52:20, singing Pokémon)

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Episode Highlights

• Honest exploration of dating uncertainty and boundary-setting
• Candid tales of both disastrous and hilarious dating experiences
• Reflection on how public exposure changes the dynamics of dating
• A robust, beginner-friendly astrology breakdown using Nicole’s own chart
• Fun musical tangents and a sense of genuine camaraderie throughout

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This episode is perfect for anyone interested in astrology, dating mishaps, or just wants to laugh and learn with two charismatic, open-hearted hosts.

Transcript

[Nicole Byer]

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[Nathan Mitchell]

We went on a couple dates and then I decided to invite her and bring her. My friends and I were going on a boat, right? So we're going on a boat for the day. There's a guy there, very attractive guy. Like, women love him, right?

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

He's gay, so, like, it doesn't, you know. And so she's talking to him and like, you know, just like a little touchy and everything. I'm like, yeah, okay. He's lying down on, like, the lower deck and he's just kind of like. He's just kind of like, right. With a couple other people. And she crawls over to him, over him, and starts air humping him. And there were two. There was like a guy, another guy, and two other girls, like, in the same space. And both those girls looked at me and they're like, we are so sorry.

[Nicole Byer]

Me and my friends love to take trips together and we took this trip to Joshua Tree and I was like, I don't want to stay in a hotel. I want to stay in, like, a really, really, really cute house with, like, a good kitchen. Because when I'm like, going to do, like a girls trip, I absolutely love, love, love, love to just like, cook in the kitchen and not have to order room service and not always have to go out to a restaurant or whatever. And look, I love my friends, I really do, but lately I don't get to see them as much as I'd like. So when we finally plan a trip together, it has to count. I want every second to be quality time. That's why when I'm traveling with friends, I look to book a stay on Airbnb. Airbnb is great because you can book an entire place to yourself. You, next time you're traveling, book a stay on Airbnb so you can actually stay together. Hacks is back for its fifth and final season, and so is the Hacks podcast. Join the Hacks creators and showrunners Lucia Aniello, Paul W. Downs and Jen Statsky as they unpack the Emmy winning comedy series. On each episode, hear stories from the set, what goes on in the writers room, and how these beloved characters close out their final season. Watch Hacks streaming exclusively on HBO Max and listen to the Hacks podcast on HBO Max or wherever you get your podcasts. Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please tell Me. Why, Baby? Welcome to another episode of why Won't yout Date Me. A podcaster, me, Nicole Byer was trying to figure out why I was so single, even though you could come on my nightstand and tell me it was an aspirin. My guest today is a talented actor, you know, from Kicking Ass as Black Noir on the Boys, and the ultimate cool dad in Ginnian, Georgia. I'm so excited he's here. It's Nathan Mitchell.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Hello. Hey. Hi. Hi. How you doing?

[Nicole Byer]

I'm good. How are you?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I am good. I am good.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay, so here is my question. Yeah, I usually start off most episodes. Are you dating? Are you single? Do you never want to say, oh, my God?

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's a good question?

[Nicole Byer]

There's options.

[Nathan Mitchell]

There are so many options. I mean, I have been. Was dating someone. I don't know what the status of that actually is now. Basically, you know, she's great. She's wonderful. But, yeah, we've been, you know, going on dates and somewhere, you know, like a few dates ago, she was like, yeah, we're just talking about our philosophies, our approach to life. And she was like, yeah, I don't know if this is gonna work. And I was like, hmm. But, like, I also agreed because we just saw things in different ways. So we. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

So, you know, so you're just in limbo about it. I mean, not.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I mean, yes. Because she was like, yeah. And then there's one evening where she just was like, you know, just in the feels about it. And I was like, okay, so I guess this is it. And then. So I thought that was that. And then she was like, sorry, like, you know, we don't have to, like, end it like this or, like, you know, you want to. And I'm like, yeah, sure. Yeah. And. And so we had another great evening or day. And then I left to travel and stuff. And so was it an ending? Is it up in the air? Is it undecided? I don't know.

[Nicole Byer]

To be continued.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It really does. But who? Like, really? It could go any direction. I don't know.

[Nicole Byer]

The world is in control, I guess. But I do like that you guys had the conversation that you're like, no. But then you were like, maybe. Yeah, I don't know.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't. I don't think either of us know.

[Nicole Byer]

But I do like that you're on the same page with not knowing.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's. At least we're on the same page about not being on the same Page. Yeah, I think that's. That's the key.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes. Because most of the time it'll be like, one person's like, I'm in it. Another person's like, now and then, like,

[Nathan Mitchell]

the other person's like, we were in something.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, that's the funniest. When you're like, wait, this was a date? Oh, are you flirting? What is happening?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Damn, that's.

[Nicole Byer]

Wait, I have a question. What's one of the worst dates you've been on?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh, yeah,

[Nicole Byer]

yeah. Hydrate before you answer.

[Nathan Mitchell]

So there's a girl I knew for probably like years, you know, but not like, you know, I'd see her here and there and occasionally we went on a couple dates and then I decided to invite her and bring her to. My friends and I were going on a boat, right? So we're going on a boat for the day. Hey, come join us. And so she comes. There's a guy there, very attractive guy. Like, women love him, right?

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

He's gay. So it doesn't, you know, but he doesn't reciprocate. He does not, unfortunately.

[Nicole Byer]

Thank you and goodbye.

[Nathan Mitchell]

But yeah, he's just that kind of guy, right? And so she's talking to him and like, you know, just like a little touchy and everything. I'm like, yeah, okay, wait.

[Nicole Byer]

This is a woman that you invite, that you are seeing on this boat, and she's a touchy feely with another man that she doesn't know is gay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I think she knew. No, she knew he was gay. She knew he was gay, right? And so I was like, okay, you know, and then the day goes on a little more and like, I'm like, a little, little ways. Look, we're all drinking and stuff. He's lying down on like the lower deck and he's just kind of like. He's just kind of like, right. With a couple other people. And she crawls over to him, over him, and starts air humping him. And there were two. There was like a guy, another guy, and two other girls like in the same space. And both those girls looked at me and they're like, we are so sorry. And I was like. At that point, I'm like, I'm not even mad. Like, this is too much. This is. Okay, cool. So we've established that this is a

[Nicole Byer]

thing that you do. You'll just air hunt people you just met.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah, yeah. She was like, but he's gay. And I'm like, listen, if I met someone you knew and they were a lesbian, and I went and I did that. That would not be cool.

[Nicole Byer]

No.

[Nathan Mitchell]

For her it's like, well, he's gay. It's like, fine. And I'm like, yeah, I love that.

[Nicole Byer]

She was like, it's fine. I'm a fun time. Everyone loved me.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

I love when someone doesn't see the error of their ways and refuses to.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I don't know if it was a full refusal. I don't know if it was a full refusal, but that was her perspective. And I was like, yeah, I don't think if the tables were turned, that would fly. Don't think it would be appropriate. Do not.

[Nicole Byer]

What's another bad date? Ooh, God, that one was fun.

[Nathan Mitchell]

This is just like an anecdote, but, you know, like, sometimes not. Sometimes this only happened once. But I remember, like, making out with someone once and then, like, afterwards, like, my, like, forearms were bloody. Cause she, like, dug her nails, like, so deeply into me.

[Nicole Byer]

This is. That's not where I thought that was going. You ever make out with someone and then you're bloody after? No. No, Nathan, no.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's not happened. Okay, well, you know.

[Nicole Byer]

So wait, you made out with someone?

[Nathan Mitchell]

It was like. It was just, like, into it that

[Nicole Byer]

they just dug their nails into you?

[Nathan Mitchell]

They did.

[Nicole Byer]

Wow.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah, it was.

[Nicole Byer]

And has this only happened once?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I think so. I think it was the once. I think it was the once.

[Nicole Byer]

It's so funny to preface this with, you ever make up with somebody so

[Nathan Mitchell]

hard they etch themselves into your skin?

[Nicole Byer]

Wow. Did you see that girl again?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I don't think so. I don't think so. But, like, not honestly, it wasn't. Not even.

[Nicole Byer]

It wasn't the drawing of the blood?

[Nathan Mitchell]

No, not honestly, no. I'm not saying that's something that I'm into, but I think it was just, you know, you're just going in two different directions and.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, here's a question. When you started having your, like, TV appearances, when they started rolling out, were people real thirsty? Were they DMing you? Were they like, yum, yum, yum?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I mean, there was. There was. I think season two of Ginny and Georgia was like, when the DMs started.

[Nicole Byer]

And what's the thirstiest thing somebody has said to you?

[Nathan Mitchell]

God damn. Someone. I think someone sent me, like, a fairly erotic poem.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I was like, okay, all right.

[Nicole Byer]

The thing I like about that is that took effort, but in the back of my brain, I'm like, is this bitch sending this to everybody?

[Nathan Mitchell]

She probably was. And there do be those people. And you're like, I see you. I see you.

[Nicole Byer]

You're sending this to everybody.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I'm not special. No, no. See, that's fucked up a little bit. But, hey, it's a hustle.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah. Did anyone ever send you, like, nasty pictures?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I feel like someone sent something once and I was like, whoa, what is this? And I was like, there's too much. There's too much. Yep.

[Nicole Byer]

I once had a man not send me any nudes. He sent me pictures of his sandwich and told me, like, in detail how he made this sandwich. And then at the end would be like, I could.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Wow. And how did. How did that feel?

[Nicole Byer]

It felt so strange. I was like, do I have the face of someone who's, like, hungry for sandwiches? Like, do I look like I'm patrolling a subway all the time? Like, why?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Okay, but here's a question. How do you feel about in general, like, food accounts? You know, someone like, making food, like, making meals.

[Nicole Byer]

I like it. There is this one account where a man does it where he, like, slaps the meat in a sexy way. And I really don't like that. It really makes me upset. Slit a chicken up and then, like, get in it and I don't like it. That makes me really upset. But just like normal cooking. I like normal cooking.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Normal cooking is good. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Right. Now I've been following Ninja Creamy accounts.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Okay. Do you know what a Ninja Creamy is? I don't know what that is.

[Nicole Byer]

He used Creamify technology to make ice cream.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh, it's like this thing, like cream can go a bunch of different places. So I wasn't.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, no, this is a non natural.

[Nathan Mitchell]

This is a wholesome cream.

[Nicole Byer]

This is wholesome cream. Okay, so you.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yes.

[Nicole Byer]

You make the base, which is like milk and whatever that. Whatever you want to put in it. And then you put it in the freezer for 24 hours, then you take it out, you put it in this. Take the lid off, you put it in another thing, and then you put it into the Ninja Creamy and it creamifies it. In like 10 minutes you have ice cream.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Damn.

[Nicole Byer]

And it's really, really nice.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I mean, ice cream in 10 minutes?

[Nicole Byer]

Yes.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's fucking crazy.

[Nicole Byer]

But it is 24 hours plus 10 minutes because you have to make the base the night before. But if you make several bases the night before, then four nights in a row you have ice cre. And every time you make a creamy, you make a new base. You can have ice cream forever.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I think someone needs to, like, go into detail about that in the DMs,

[Nicole Byer]

about the creamified Technology. I have no idea what it does, but every night I sing Creamy, Creamy. Everybody everywhere. Creamy, creamy.

[Nathan Mitchell]

And then you wake up and there's ice cream.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes. And it's lovely.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's a great song.

[Nicole Byer]

I love it so much. Although last night I made a bad one.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh.

[Nicole Byer]

I was trying to make an orange creamsicle.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Damn. Okay.

[Nicole Byer]

I used orange creamsicle protein powder, but I also had put sugar in it. So then it was. It was just like obscenely sweet. Like violently sweet. Truly just nasty.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You know, it's. Yeah. That makes me think. I was having brunch the other day and with the aforementioned, you know, and there was sugar on the side. And she's like, oh, I want some sugar. Pours it in, takes a drink. It's salt.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, Lord.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It was great.

[Nicole Byer]

It was great.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I enjoyed that moment. I thought it was fantastic.

[Nicole Byer]

I would have been so upset. Wait, did you realize it was salt as she was shaking it in? Oh, okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It would have been funnier if I did. It would have been great. It would have been fantastic. But no, no. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Did she get a new drink?

[Nathan Mitchell]

She did. I thought it was like, slightly unnecessary, but.

[Nicole Byer]

Slightly unnecessary.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You gotta commit. You gotta commit, I guess.

[Nicole Byer]

All right.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I did taste it. It did taste like shit.

[Nicole Byer]

So I went to brunch the other day and they had ice cream cones. So I got to sit at a table and lick an ice cream cone. God, it was so glorious.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Ice cream on pancakes.

[Nicole Byer]

I've never had it.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You fucking tried it.

[Nicole Byer]

But I would do it.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Fucking good.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, my God. Well, this place was the Mermaid Inn on the Upper west side of New York City. They're not paying me. I just don't want them to go out of business. Cause I love sitting at a table eating ice cream.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You know, like those great spots like that, you know, gluten free pancakes. We don't have, like that. No, I don't. I don't want to say that. But like, I love gluten free pancakes.

[Nicole Byer]

Are you celiac?

[Nathan Mitchell]

No, I just love gluten. Like, if I have too much gluten, it like activates seasonal allergies and so, like. But I also love pancakes. So it's an eternal dilemma.

[Nicole Byer]

I also love pancakes.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You find those spots with that gluten free. It's all day, so good.

[Nicole Byer]

That's very funny that you like a gluten free pancake.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I know. It's so specific. You're like, why not just a regular pancake, you fucking nut?

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, well, I won't call you a fucking nut. I'd be like, you silly man.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That was my internal dialogue coming out. That was my.

[Nicole Byer]

Sometimes that happens.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It is. It was not even a sentence.

[Nicole Byer]

Where are your favorite pancakes? Here in la.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh, my God.

[Nicole Byer]

And then favorite pancakes in Canada?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Well, there's one on Santa Monica. I'm trying to remember the name, you know. No, you don't. Let me see.

[Nicole Byer]

Is it in Santa Monica or just on Santa Monica block?

[Nathan Mitchell]

In Santa Monica.

[Nicole Byer]

In. Oh, I don't go that far. That's too far.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It's too far.

[Nicole Byer]

It's too damn far for me.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You're right. That's a whole fucking long distance relationship.

[Nicole Byer]

It really is.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

I could never date somebody who's on the west side.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh, man.

[Nicole Byer]

You just would never ever see me

[Nathan Mitchell]

watch me date people on the other side of Canada.

[Nicole Byer]

Really?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I mean, it's happened a couple times where, like, I've been in Vancouver and then I'm going to film Ginny and Georgia or I'm going back to film the boys. Then I meet someone in Vancouver. And then you have like a month or two and you're like, I gotta

[Nicole Byer]

go, I gotta get outta here.

[Nathan Mitchell]

And then you're there. Then you try to fly back. You try to fly.

[Nicole Byer]

How do you make that work? Ugh.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Does it work? Good question. You gotta really, really, really try. I remember, you know, like, this was, you know, someone I was dating like a few years back. But I think it's easier when you have like a. You're like, okay, we're gonna get to this point and then, you know, we're gonna be able to spend more time together. I remember Ginny and Georgia had just finished and I was hanging out with her and her friends and like, unprompted, like, two of her friends were like, so are you back for good? And I was like, I mean, I'm here, but I'm gonna go back. But I can always. I can fly back. I can just come when I have. They're like, cool. And that lasted maybe a few weeks longer. And then it was not. Did not continue.

[Nicole Byer]

But you also didn't like these friends policing you. That's a question she could have asked.

[Nathan Mitchell]

No, you're right. I don't know what went behind that. So I can't anticipate fair. But. But yeah, I think there were probably other factors too. Like, I'm an actor. She had her own thing. It didn't. The schedules didn't work. It was. And yeah, it would throw off her stuff. But let me tell you, though, that breakup, I mean, it wasn't even, because we weren't even officially dating. But like, you know, and she had been great in like talking about, like, hey, I'm not sure. But I had come back. But then I had to go to Europe for a press tour and it was like getting to that place. So I was checking in and she was like, yeah, we should talk. And I'm like, okay, let's talk right now. Cause I'm about to get on an 8, 10 hour flight to London.

[Nicole Byer]

Something just to ruminate about as you fly.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh God, that would have been death. So, yeah, we had the conversation on the phone as I was like in line to get on the plane. And yeah, that was a, that was a. That was a nice one.

[Nicole Byer]

That was a nice one.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Great, great times. Great. Best, best flight. Best flight of my life.

[Nicole Byer]

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[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh, is there A perfect partner.

[Nicole Byer]

I don't know.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I think, you know, I think there are so many different types of people that could be a good partner. I think in my life, I have, you know, been drawn to people where there's great connection, there's great chemistry. What I've been putting my attention on is like, am I aligned with this person? Do we have the same values? Do we have the same philosophy on life? Do we have the same morals, the same vision? You know, and like, that wider structure is. Are our timelines aligned? Is our timing aligned? You know, and. Cause that's been. I think those things have been a challenge for me, like, in terms of finding someone, it's like, you have that connection, you have that chemistry, but then those other things that all the other shit are aligning. Exactly.

[Nicole Byer]

So off of your appearance on Ginny in Georgia, you had to address theories that you were AI.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I guess.

[Nicole Byer]

Why? Do you know, why people thought you were AI?

[Nathan Mitchell]

You know, my thought is that, like, initially, I think it started with someone being like, that's the guy. From this. From, like. I don't know if it was Grand Theft Auto or some video game. And I honestly never even played Grand Theft Auto. But then somehow it merged into AI. And you know what I think it is? Cause I got a new TV a couple years ago, and I was watching an episode of One Tree Hill. Cause I was feeling nostalgic, and on the screen, everyone's moving a little different. Cause there's this setting on your TV that is meant for sports, but everything comes default, and then everyone's moving a

[Nicole Byer]

little funny Very, very quickly.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah.

[Nathan Mitchell]

So I think there was a bit of that. That just. That, particularly with me, got highlighted, and then one thing led to another, and before you know it, I'm. I don't know, like the first version of ChatGPT on television. I don't know.

[Nicole Byer]

That's very funny. Do you watch yourself on things that you've shot or.

[Nathan Mitchell]

No, I do. I do. What's interesting is, like, I remember, like, the first play I was in, or that I. Not that I was in, that I saw a tape of. I had a very interesting reaction to it. I was like, oh, that's interesting. Okay, so I did this here, and I did that here, and I did that here. And I kind of relate to it like an athlete looking at tape of a sport, you know, and for some, like, I think there are a few reasons, but when I'm watching, I'm able to look at it objectively and impersonally and look at it very much like something I'm breaking down and being like, okay, I was going for this, and it had this effect. So if I want to do something different, I gotta shift this a little here. And that's always been my relationship to it. And so, yeah, I love to look at it to see where I can improve and get better. I like also just watching it for the first time by myself in case it's fucking terrible. And then I can just, like, curl up in a ball and wither slowly and then pull myself back together. And then I can watch it with other people. But first you gotta watch it alone.

[Nicole Byer]

You have a very healthy way of looking at it. I don't go, what can I do better? I'm like, you stupid bitch.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Why did you do that?

[Nicole Byer]

Why did you step like that? You look stupid. But I do like the. This is what I can do better. I can try it like this, that, the other.

[Nathan Mitchell]

But.

[Nicole Byer]

But also, sometimes I'm like, that's the take you took. I know I did better. I know there's a better one.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I feel you on that. I feel you. Yeah, it's like, you know, like, you know, I did. You gave something. And they're like, why'd you pick that one?

[Nicole Byer]

There was one that was so much better.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I know. I was like.

[Nicole Byer]

I was like dropped in. I was in the zone. I was feeling it a little like

[Nathan Mitchell]

booger coming out on this specific one. And.

[Nicole Byer]

But there's also.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I was twitching.

[Nicole Byer]

There was also takes that make it in where I've done something very silly. And the director's like, don't do that. And I'm like, okay. And then on set, I feel like. I'm like, why was I being so silly? And then they use that. And I'm like, I knew it.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It was fucking good.

[Nicole Byer]

I knew it.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yes. Yes. Sometimes you just gotta follow your instincts and your intuition.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes, yes.

[Nathan Mitchell]

And trust yourself.

[Nicole Byer]

Your intuition. That's not how that song goes.

[Nathan Mitchell]

At night I think of you that's

[Nicole Byer]

not the song, but that's a good one.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I want to be a village baby if your game is on if you love me strong we were singing that on the last day of set because we just rapped Jenny in Georgia and me and Ray, who plays Joe, we were walking back from a take, and we just started singing it. And Brie plays Georgia was right behind us. And he's like, fuck, I'm just singing. And she just started singing it randomly throughout the rest of the night. And it was fun. We wrapped it like. I wrapped at 4:00am Good Lord. I think she rapped at like 5:30.

[Nicole Byer]

Ugh. Yeah, that's too late.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Some would say. I would say you would be right.

[Nicole Byer]

What time was your call time?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I think it was like my pickup was 4:30pm p.m. that's not that bad. No.

[Nicole Byer]

People don't like splits. I love a split day. I love it so much. Have a nice time in the morning, mid afternoon. Go home at 5am splits.

[Nathan Mitchell]

And I like, thought of someone doing a split.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, I like that too.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I was like, interesting that people would have such a strong opinion on splits.

[Nicole Byer]

That's very funny. That's where your mind went. I just made a split day. What you shooting? But also, I love flexibility. That makes me very happy.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay. What advice would you give single people who are listening right now?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I think you have to know yourself and have a good relationship with yourself first. You can only meet someone as deeply as you've gone with yourself, you know, and it's like being honest with yourself, being aware of yourself, being able to reflect, you know, like, everything starts with our relationships with ourselves. How do you two want to live life? Like, if you're thinking of thinking the long term, like, what's your idea of a relationship? Like, being clear on those things so you don't, like, get deeper into something and you wind up on a different page and you're like, ah, it's so

[Nicole Byer]

hard to extricate because we've done so much and we actually didn't have the same value system, same beliefs on what we wanted.

[Nathan Mitchell]

But the clearer you can be from the beginning, I think the easier, the more trouble you can save yourself. I think that's one of the many pieces of advice coming from a very, very single, most of the time person.

[Nicole Byer]

See, I'm very, very single, but who's to say most of the time?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Very, very single most of the time.

[Nicole Byer]

So you're into astrology and you've been studying astrology since 2008.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah. Oh, you got that? Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes. My assistant Lindsay does so much research.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh, Lindsay, You.

[Nicole Byer]

She's wonderful. Okay, what would you have to know about me for you to do a reading on me?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Ooh, okay. So, I mean, I would need your birth time.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Birth date.

[Nicole Byer]

908, August 29th.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh, wow. If I had my phone on me, I could pull up my app and do the chart and give you a reading. I could do that.

[Nicole Byer]

Would you want to?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I mean, I'm down. We can do it.

[Nicole Byer]

Let's do it.

[Nathan Mitchell]

My phone is in the other room. I'M gonna have to.

[Nicole Byer]

It can be got.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It can be got. Okay. I'm gonna conduct a magic spell that

[Nicole Byer]

I knew that you.

[Nathan Mitchell]

To conjure. The phone. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes, the magic spell. A phone, phone. Phone.

[Nathan Mitchell]

For phone.

[Nicole Byer]

For phone. Phone.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's actually how you say it.

[Nicole Byer]

A phone phone.

[Nathan Mitchell]

With the specific hand motions.

[Nicole Byer]

A phone phone. Phone. For phone. For phone.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Phone. There we go.

[Nicole Byer]

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[Nathan Mitchell]

Thank you.

[Nicole Byer]

And

[Nathan Mitchell]

what I realized over time is that all of that stuff is relevant.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Right. But knowing about someone is different than knowing them.

[Nicole Byer]

Ooh, okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You know, and so I could have a bunch of facts and that can help me relate to you, but that doesn't substitute for the experience of like, connecting with you and like. Yeah. Experiencing you.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You know, so, yeah, eventually, like, you know, I reference this stuff and I interface with it, but like, it doesn't, you know, doesn't substitute for like, sitting across a person and just like living and experiencing them.

[Nicole Byer]

Have you ever dated somebody who was also into astrology? And have you ever gotten to astrology offs?

[Nathan Mitchell]

You know what I mean? Not. I mean, probably not as much as me. You know, I think that's a rarer thing. But it does help when someone's into astrology and you're speaking the same language. And when you can tell them something and they'll understand or it's nice when they're really into it. Right. Cause then you can teach them and show them different things and they love to learn and you love to share. And so that's been fun too.

[Nicole Byer]

I would be fun to date because I'm like a fish. I just forget things. Is that a fish thing?

[Nathan Mitchell]

It's a goldfish thing.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, I'm a goldfish.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

You'll tell me something, I'll be like, goodbye.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I also have a question in memory at times, so I know what you mean. Except when it comes to astrology. Cause I remember a lot. But let's. Okay. So what's your birthday?

[Nicole Byer]

August 29.

[Nathan Mitchell]

August 29. And what year?

[Nicole Byer]

Honk, honk.

[Nathan Mitchell]

What time?

[Nicole Byer]

9:08am Mars. Will you bleep the year? Because I like not having people. Because I don't want people to be like, well, then you know how old you are. If you know the year.

[Nathan Mitchell]

No one's gonna.

[Nicole Byer]

I do a bit where I'm just like, I'm 92. I'm 68. I'm 88.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I'm 2003 personally. Let's see what city?

[Nicole Byer]

Red Bank, New Jersey.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Red Bank, New Jersey. Red bank. Okay. So are you a Libra riser? You know, you've never done your chart.

[Nicole Byer]

I have done my chart, but again, I simply forget. I thought I was a Virgo.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I mean you are like close if you. Okay, so time does matter.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes.

[Nathan Mitchell]

And you would be close to a Virgo rising. You would be close, but you'd have to be born around like 8:45, 8:38.

[Nicole Byer]

Oh, oh.

[Nathan Mitchell]

You gave me a different 8:09. Damn.

[Nicole Byer]

I'm so sorry.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Damn. You see?

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah. Okay, cool. So about to do this whole reading.

[Nicole Byer]

Remember my cause I have my birth certificate in my bedroom. Cause I had to order a new one. It is 8:09am okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Okay. All right. So that does make you a Virgo rising.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay. The only thing I remember from my chart.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Good thing. Cause that would have been a very different reading. Your sun is in Virgo in the 12th House. Your moon is in Gemini in the 10th House, which is very fitting, which makes a lot of sense. You have Mars in Capricorn. You have Venus in Libra in the second house.

[Nicole Byer]

And what does that mean?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Okay, so Venus is how we approach relationships. Okay, Right. And so when you look at Venus, it's what we value aesthetically. It's how we relate to people. It's how we bond. Right. And it's like how we are in relationships. So Libra is, you know, the scales are about balance and there's this theme of harmony, of wanting peace. And it's like where can you go to reset and find equilibrium? And so people with Venus in Libra tend to not like too much conflict. So that's one of the things that would be your preference in a relationship. Again, now that's only one part of the chart. So other parts can add flavor and dimension to it. Your Venus is also in the second house. And the second house is the house of income. It's the house of resources. And when planets are there, there tends to be a theme of wanting to prove yourself to yourself. Because it's also related to our self esteem, it's related to our own talents. It's also connected to just survival. Right. And so for people with planets in that house, there can be an attention on using your talents and your skills to acquire resources, to establish security for yourself, to just make sure you're in a place where you can survive what life throws at you. Because you also have Pluto there. And Pluto is a very intense planet. And depending on where it is. It's where we come up against, you know, sometimes the shadow side of life, you know. And again, I don't want to say this applies in every scenario, but I had a friend growing up who had Pluto in the second house. And, you know, money and income and all that stuff was very, like, survival oriented. Like, that was her relationship with, you know, with money growing up, you know, and she's done really well for herself. But just that starting point, you know, it's more like there's like a life or death energy, you know?

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah. My dad once said to me, once money is gone, it is gone. And that has stuck with me in a way that maybe is deeply unhealthy.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I mean, we all, like. We're all coming at things from different angles. Right. And so it might be. Or it might be just true for you or true for your situation or, like, how you view things. Right. It might be a necessary perspective at one point in your life, and then at a different point, you can move on to a different place. But, yeah, this notion of this energy of finality and just the real ruthless truth around something is very Plutonian. Right. And so that being in your second house. Yeah. I mean, it is gone, but it doesn't mean it can't come back. That specific money that you got rid of is gone, but it doesn't mean there can't be something else. Right. You also have the South Node right beside your Venus. And again, this is. If you're into this stuff or not.

[Nicole Byer]

No, I think it's interesting.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It is pretty fucking cool. But the south node, you can use this as a metaphor or look at it in reality, tends to be connected to past lives in the unresolved lessons and the unresolved stuff that we have. Right. So that being aligned with your Venus in the south node suggests that, like, this has been a sticking point in past lives. And so there's extra, you know, karmic weight or energetic intensity, like with these issues. Right.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Okay. So we're gonna also look at Mars, which is in Capricorn, and that is in the. That's in the fourth house.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

And the fourth house is family. It's home. You know, it's our roots. And Capricorn is about building something. It's about being productive. It's about being efficient. I don't know if efficient is the right word, but building something that lasts, you know, if you think of, you know, just a metaphor of climbing a mountain, you know, like, what's a mountain in your life where you want to climb or you want to achieve something? Right. So that would be Capricorn. And with Mars and Capricorn in your fourth house, when I think of people who have Mars in Capricorn in the fourth, I have a friend who has it. And I'm not saying this would apply to you, but there's a very lively energy in the home. Her house was a house we would go to in high school. Her parents would always be cooking food. Everyone would be over. There would be parties. And so there's just like a lot of energy and activity in the home, you know, or attention towards building, you know, a home and needing, you know, needing a safe space where you can operate. Right, okay.

[Nicole Byer]

That very much resonates with me.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Okay, great, great. Added to which you have Sagittarius on the fourth house cusp. So the fourth house is the house of home. So Sagittarius would flavor it as well. And Sagittarius energy is very independent. It's very roving, freedom oriented, travel oriented. So maybe you hopped around to different homes. Maybe you could have lived in another country or gone to, been born in one place, moved and settled down in another. Those are possibilities. It doesn't have to manifest that way. But there's some theme of Sagittarian like freedom or travel or wandering that's usually associated. When you see Sagittarius on the fourth house cusp.

[Nicole Byer]

I wonder if that has to do with me touring. I tour a lot.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I mean, that could be it as well, you know. Cause, you know, here's the thing. Usually you look at the ninth house and, you know, other themes. But yeah, yeah, there is a cause when you look at Sagittarius, you look at Jupiter, and Jupiter's in your sixth house. And so the theme of travel with Sagittarius carries over to Jupiter. And the sixth house is about everyday work, Right. And so traveling for everyday work. Right. Gemini moon in the 10th, talking.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nathan Mitchell]

So the 10th, yeah. You're like, I fucking love to talk. Yeah, I do. That's what I do. I do be talking. So, yeah. Gemini is a sign of communication. It's a sign of listening. It's a sign of just of speaking. Right. And the moon is our heart, you know, it's how we connect to and experience our emotions. Right. And air moons and Gemini moons tend to be more comfortable talking things out, you know, and thinking about their feelings rather than like feeling their feelings, you know. And in the 10th, the way that manifests is the 10th house is your career. You know, it's a public sphere. So putting your heart into something and using that as a vehicle for communication. Those would be themes with someone who has Gemini placements in the 10th house. Right. And then you got your sun in Mercury and Mercury in Leo, which is. Leo is the performer. You know, we love a little applause for a Leo.

[Nicole Byer]

I really do.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah, we fucking do. And yeah, it's in the 11th house of. It's pretty close. It's actually on the 12th house cusp. But it's like. Yeah. So the 11th house is networks and groups and communities. The 12th house is solitary, it's private. And your son is there too. And what I would say when I see a 12th house, son, is there's a need for alone time, there's a need for privacy and there's probably a part of yourself or probably like a core part of yourself that most people do not see. It's like when people are like, I'm a Sagittarius and actually I feel like I can see this as well. People say, I'm a Sagittarius and you can tell that. Or I'm a Leo and you can tell that you're a Virgo. I'm not picking up a lot of Virgo energy. Right. But that Virgo energy is hidden. It's in this private place and only people who are really close to you are going to see that or it's going to come out in those. In those private environments.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, yeah. Because I've been told that Virgos are like, they have rules and they're very tidy and they like things a certain way and those are all very private things. Because I have a lot of rules that people don't know about, but when they break, but you're like, I don't know about it.

[Nathan Mitchell]

We done? Yeah, yeah. No Virgo. I think with Virgo, it's like you see where things are and you see how good things could be. And there's this need for self improvement, for perfection, to reach an ideal, very detail oriented and the need to be of service to other people, to be competent, to be skilled, to do and give something that is useful to others. Yeah, yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

How did you get into astrology?

[Nathan Mitchell]

How did I get into it?

[Nicole Byer]

Yes.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I was really, you know, in high school I was very into spiritual exploration. Right. And I wanted to understand myself. Right. So I would go on the computer in the library and like do personality tests and like read and look up different things. And then one day I found a website, like an astrology website. It was a monthly horoscope and it divided like, like even the sign of, say, cancer, cancer rising. Because I'm a cancer rising. It's like the first 10 degrees, the second 10 degrees, and the third 10 degrees. So I looked at mine in the third and what was interesting is like, there was a couple things that were right every month that were outside of my direct control, you know? Cause you can like, okay, you're have a great day. You can go out and like, give yourself a great day. But say like, you know, you look at the realms where things can manifest. So it's like, you look, okay, Venus is relationships, 11th house is groups of people say there's alignment between Venus and Mars. It's like, okay, something exciting, something with some tension, some fun energy. Sexual tension. Fun energy is going to happen in around groups of people on this day. And consistently it would just be right. Yeah. In a way that I couldn't manipulate directly. Right. And then I found this other astrology website and that was Right. So I was like, oh. So it just piqued my interest. And then I got a reading in 2008 and this guy, he just like laid out a bunch of stuff and I was like, wow, okay. And he gave me this chart and I didn't understand it at all, but I said to myself, I'm gonna understand this. And so I just studied. I just read all these books. I'd go on forums, I'd read different people's interpretations and where did you get that reading?

[Nicole Byer]

Are you trying to get it that reading or you wanna share?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Oh, no, that dude, he's old. He's old.

[Nicole Byer]

You're like, he done dead.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I don't know where he is. I genuinely. I would love to. I think I tried to too. I just was like, he doesn't answer his. I tried years ago. He doesn't answer his emails. I don't know if he's. I don't know where he is. I don't know if he'. I don't know if he's there on a different plane. Yeah, I don't know if he's transcended to another environment, but he was great.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, I like tarot card readings.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I love me some tarot.

[Nicole Byer]

I'm very good at reading tarot. But only this specific deck and only in my house.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Interesting.

[Nicole Byer]

But I can read them. If someone has a deck that they love and I'm in a safe place, then I can read them. But if I'm just like out in the world, like here, I don't think I'd be able to read Them.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Well, what I find interesting about tarot is you can. Or I can read for somebody else. I can't read for myself.

[Nicole Byer]

I can only read for myself if I need a message.

[Nathan Mitchell]

What I find is if I ask the tarot a question, and it's like, what's gonna happen? And it gives me an answer, like, I'm like, oh, that's the. No, it wasn't the answer. It was like the next emotionally significant thing that was gonna happen to me. So it wasn't specifically that, but it'll tell me. It'll tell me something. But not. Not what I asked, you know, mine.

[Nicole Byer]

I can. Yeah. It will only give me answers if I actually need to know. Otherwise, it'll tell me about my career and money.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Fair. Not bad answers to get. Not bad answers. You know what's crazy, too? Like, I have a friend who I read with who. Who I've honestly been reading with since we go back to high school, right? And sometimes we'll ask too many questions and we get really bad cards, and it's Thero's way of being like, fuck off.

[Nicole Byer]

Yeah, fuck off.

[Nathan Mitchell]

We're done here.

[Nicole Byer]

You're making me work too fucking hard and I don't wanna do it.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yes, it's overtime. And they're done. They're done.

[Nicole Byer]

Do you have a special deck that you like to use?

[Nathan Mitchell]

I like Rider Waite. It's classic. You can, like, you can. I'm very familiar with the symbolisms, you know, Like, I think personally, like, when you're answering questions and you pull out different cards. I like to look at the sky and, like, what color is the sky? Cause that gives an inclination of the emotional tone of the answer. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

My card is. It's by an artist called Dawn Aquarius.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It sounds familiar.

[Nicole Byer]

She has, I think, a couple different decks. I was in Joshua Tree, and I was in a vintage store, and I was like, do you have the Don Virgo cards? And they were like, what are you talking about?

[Nathan Mitchell]

These are Donna Pleas.

[Nicole Byer]

Where's Don Virgo? They're like, that's the name of the artist. So I think the cards were like, what a silly billy.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's funny.

[Nicole Byer]

But, like, we like her, but, like,

[Nathan Mitchell]

yeah, no one's gonna. No one's gonna know all their names by. By.

[Nicole Byer]

I know. I was like. And I'm the idiot. Come on.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yeah. No, not at all.

[Nicole Byer]

Well, Nathan, we have reached the end.

[Nathan Mitchell]

We've reached the end.

[Nicole Byer]

We have. Do you have anything that you want to promote?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Anything I want to promote? Yes, I want to promote My mom, because she's wonderful.

[Nicole Byer]

That's nice.

[Nathan Mitchell]

And, yeah, and my dad and my sisters are great, too, but I was going to make a joke, but basically my mom would be like, that's not funny. So I'm going to stop. Okay, fair. But, yeah. We finished Ginny and Georgia filming season four. I don't know when it's coming out, but we done. And Da boys is coming out April 8th. If you're watching this before April 8th, it's coming out April 8th. If you're watching it after, go fucking watch it.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay. I have a question. Would you date me?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Here's a question. Do you like Pokemon?

[Nicole Byer]

I have a tattoo of a Jigglypuff.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Damn. Okay.

[Nicole Byer]

Yes, Jiggly.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I'm sleeping already.

[Nicole Byer]

Who's your favorite Pokemon?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Charmander.

[Nicole Byer]

Okay.

[Nathan Mitchell]

He's the best. He's the og.

[Nicole Byer]

He's very, very cute.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I love him.

[Nicole Byer]

When I go to karaoke, I always sing the Pokemon theme song. And it's a real crowd pleaser.

[Nathan Mitchell]

It would be.

[Nicole Byer]

It is. That's a sleepy one. And everyone gets so into it. Oh, man, it's such a good song.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Can we do it now?

[Nicole Byer]

No.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I wanna be the very best like no one ever was to catch them is my real, my greatest test

[Nicole Byer]

Pokemon.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That was fantastic.

[Nicole Byer]

Listen, I need the words there. I don't know any song front to back.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I think I actually still know all the words.

[Nicole Byer]

It sounds like you do.

[Nathan Mitchell]

I do. Yeah.

[Nicole Byer]

And it was humiliating for me to be like, that's the song. I always do. And I'm like, I simply don't know the words.

[Nathan Mitchell]

What is it?

[Nicole Byer]

But my second song is always creed, can you take me higher? Anyway, if you like this episode of why won't you date me? You can like it, you can follow it. You can rate it 5 stars on Spotify and Apple podcast. And if you write me something nasty, hitting on me to why won't you date me? PodcastMail.com I will read it. Please keep sending them. I will say, please keep them a little shorter because. Because this. That's my request. This nice person writes. Hi, Nicole. Our date would start with a nice romantic dinner at your favorite fast casual restaurant. I hope it's Chili's. I love Chili's. It's very affordable. After dinner, we would hit the streets looking for a third. Who? Anyone with a working penis. We would take him back to your place. We would Eiffel Tower him as you him. I would sit on his face. Don't worry, we'll take turns. When he's ready to finish. We'll make sure he comes in a jar. We'll use his cum to make delicious ice cream in your new ninja creamy.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Wow.

[Nicole Byer]

We'll send him on his way as we enjoy our ice cream. Watching movies. I guess I've mentioned the ninja creepy before. Well, all right. You loved it.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Goodbye.

[Nicole Byer]

That was a Hitgun podcast. Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[Nathan Mitchell]

Sterling K. Brown.

[Nicole Byer]

And I'm Chris Sullivan.

[Nathan Mitchell]

And we host the podcast that Was Us now on Headgum.

[Nicole Byer]

Each episode, we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show. This is us.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's right.

[Nicole Byer]

We're gonna go episode by episode. We're also gonna pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors. Are we gonna cry?

[Nathan Mitchell]

Yes. Little bit. Are we gonna laugh a lot?

[Nicole Byer]

A whole lot.

[Nathan Mitchell]

That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to. That was us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.