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This is a headgum podcast. Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please tell me why. Oh, baby. Welcome to another episode of why Won't yout Date Me? A podcast where me and Nicole Byer.
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Was trying to figure out why I was so single, even though you could come in my eye and tell me. That's the white part.
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My guests today.
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Wait a minute. Hold up.
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This is a special episode. It is. It's what? Galentine's Day, which is a holiday where we celebrate the most important relationship in our lives. It's a girlfriend. It's an episode celebrating friendship.
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And honestly, there is only one person I could have on this show. You know her. You love her. She's my best friend. She's a comedian. She's an actress.
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And you know her from SNL and Agatha all along and our podcast, Best Friends.
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And she's one of my favorite people.
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In the whole wide world. It's Sasheer Zamayda.
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Yay. Those credits felt like accusations.
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You know her.
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Well, I'm hoping to get people going if they don't know you from those things. They could go to Disney. They could sign up for an account, and they can watch Agatha all along.
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It's true.
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Or they could hop on YouTube. Well, first they'd have to hop on Wikipedia to find out the years you were on SNL and then go to.
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YouTube, put your name.
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Oh, I guess they don't have to. They could just say your name. Snl.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Wow. I was giving everybody an extra sip. Well, I'm so excited that you're here. Do you know the origin of Galentine's Day?
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I don't.
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I'm going to tell you.
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Please.
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I learned it originated on the hit television series Parks and Rec.
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Ooh.
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Where Leslie Knope coins the term Galentine's Day.
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That's so funny. I guess I. For some reason, I thought Galentine's was, like, a longer established thing.
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I guess I. I guess Parks and.
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Recovery for a while, but it's also.
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Been off for a while.
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That's true.
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It's not going anymore. Sashir, are you sure?
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What? What?
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What are you. It's gone. That's cool, though.
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It is cool. I also thought it was just a thing. That was a thing.
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Yeah. Like, was this a holiday that was also around when Valentine's was around? But actually, we were just talking about you and I were just talking about things being from TV or film versus, like, just a saying in the world. And that's. That's an example of something that came from a show.
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That came from a show. What is your relationship with. Just. What's your relationship with Galentine's Day? Have you ever celebrated.
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I don't think, officially.
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No.
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I can't remember a time where I.
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Was like, come on, girls, let's go, girls.
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Right. Have we celebrated Galentine's?
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No. I feel like you've always been in a relationship and had a nice time with your partner and left me cold, sad, and withering alone in a bed. But I. I guess it's okay. I have other friends. Who knows? I don't know. You've been on the podcast so much. Maybe I don't have other friends.
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No, you do.
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I've never celebrated Galentine's Day. And I. I wish it was more of, like, a thing in my 20s.
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Yeah.
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Because I think I would make it like a production and be like, let's all go out. Let's have a lovely time. But my. I think the most visceral way I can. Can describe how I felt about Valentine's Day is the scene in Sex and the City, the movie, when Carrie and Miranda go out. And then Miranda tells Carrie what she said to Big right before the wedding, before he, like, left her at the altar. And they're at the restaurant, and there's all these strings.
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Yes.
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And they're having this awful on.
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And they're. They're just arrested by strings. That's really funny.
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That's how I' always felt. Valentine's Day is where I'm like, everyone's in love.
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Ah, I hate it.
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I get that.
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But now. Now I'm okay with it. And I think I was okay with it. I think I've been okay with it for a couple years. Well, now I have a nice person in my life. Yeah. That's funny. I have no idea what we did last year for Valentine's Day. Oh, wait. We went to dinner on the 15th. Cause I couldn't find a reservation for the 14th. And he was like, good. That was great.
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That was a good idea.
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And I was like, yeah, that was an idea. The day after. Because the reservations are open. It was just. Cause there simply wasn't one. Do you have any Valentine's Day traditions because you've been with your partner for.
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Three, four years, Almost four years. Yeah, I guess. Not traditions. We kind of like. We really, like, surprising each other for Valentine's Day. And on our anniversary. But actually, I saw a clip of Bobby Burke on this show.
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Yes.
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Talking about sitting right there.
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Sitting right here.
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About how he and his partner to do experiences rather than gifts or whatever. And so I brought that up to my girlfriend, and she's like, you want to give me gifts? I was like, I mean, yeah.
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You're like, it was just an idea. It was just an idea. It was just something I said, I guess. I just saw it.
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I was like, I saw this great clip.
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That's really funny. I said to that nice man in my life at Christmas, I was like, what if we just, like, didn't do presents this year because I don't know what to get you? And he was like, I'm gonna get you a present. And I was like, same. I'm gonna get you a present. And then I was like, I gotta get him a present. I don't know what to get him. Cause I get them stuff all year round. Yeah.
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That's how I feel.
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I'm like.
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I feel like I'm always giving you gifts.
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Yeah.
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And then also the anniversary, and then there's also Christmas, and it's like, we should. One of these can give. Like, we don't have to do it all the time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's kind of how I feel. But then also, I love a gift.
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Do you love receiving gifts?
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Oh, my goodness, yeah. For Christmas, he got me this really pretty necklace. And then I was like, you did so good.
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He's good.
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I didn't do it alone.
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Sure.
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Help me.
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And I was like, behind my back.
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We were conspiring behind your back.
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It's my favorite kind of conspiring. Boy, oh, boy. When something happens that's a surprise to me, and multiple people are involved. I'm like, I'm so important.
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Multiple conversations happened around me.
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Like, check ins. Is this good? What about. I was like, I was on these people's minds, and I didn't even know Sashira brought me. Like, I was screaming. I was like.
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I was so excited. Oh, I'm so glad.
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So has anything changed? Cause I think you were on the show. I think it's almost. It's been about a year since you were last on the program. Yes. Has anything changed in your relationship status or in your life in general that you care to share with America?
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Well, as long as America's listening.
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I feel crazy.
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I had pop chips and a Diet.
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Coke, and I'm like, Ah, yeah.
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Like 20 minutes ago, you were like, I'm tired, and you are amped up.
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Right now you were spicy queso.
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What's changed? Still gay.
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That's.
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I've decided to stick with it.
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That's good.
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Thanks.
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That's really good. I feel like sometimes people waffle on things or dipping their toes in. Yeah, but you dove in head first and said, I'll stay submerged. I am submerged. Still gay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, yeah, relationship's still good. And yeah. Honestly, I don't think there's like a. Any. Nothing like, big is happening.
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Was it your anniversary that your girlfriend surprised you with a trip to where you were suspended in the air and climbing?
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I think that was my birthday.
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Describing that.
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Well, I think that was my birthday.
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There was like a.
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What do you call it? Like one of those aerial jungle gyms or something like that. And we went to. Yeah, it was like a. This mountainous area, and then they had these, like, suspension bridges, and you were kind of like, hooked up to it, and it was really fun. And I guess she picked it because I had sent. I guess I had sent that exact one to her on.
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Wait, really?
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Yeah, but I forgot. And so she remembered and then booked it for us, and it was really fun.
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The wildest part was you sent a video or pictures to, like, our group chat, and I was like, this is crazy. This is what we did in gym in high school, which, in hindsight, crazy.
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That. Yeah.
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That we were belaying and repelling as 16 year olds. And it's like, you signed a waiver probably. I did. I never signed a waiver. They're just like, you're in school. Yeah. You're at Middletown High School South. You might die, and nobody cares. Wild, right?
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It's wild. Can we also turn the air down?
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Mm, you got a little chilly.
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I'm cold now.
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Your nipples hard? That's crazy. That's crazy.
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That's crazy. You don't have to answer that.
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My nipples are none of your business.
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I was at dinner last night with a friend of a friend who's pregnant, and she was like, God, I'm so stuffed. I'm really uncomfortable. And my friend goes, so, what's your favorite position? And she was like, excuse me. What do you sexually. What are you talking. He was.
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He was like, no, no, no, no.
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Like, when you're.
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When you're uncomfortable and full with the baby.
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Like, how?
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What?
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How? And it was really funny to me because I also was like, horror. Yeah.
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I feel like you have to say sleeping position. That's anything.
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Yeah.
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Anything other than just, what's your favorite position? It's like, what? That's Funny. No. Do you think it's necessary for. I know my answer, but do you think it's necessary to, like, elevate and celebrate your single girlfriends on something like Valentine's Day?
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I do think it's important. I don't want my single friends to feel left out. But then there's also a part of me that's like, I don't want to patronize them. So I don't. I don't actually know, and no one's ever told me. Yeah. Does that feel patronizing? If someone's like, hey, girl, just thinking about your single ass today.
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Don't leave you out. Here's a rose. If you said it like that, that's not patronizing in the slightest. Thinking about y' all single ass.
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Here's a fucking rose.
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I would love it, actually, if that's how people reached out to me. But I do think it, like, I've had people be like. Like, on Valentine's Day, like, if you run into someone, they're like, oh, well, you know, maybe next year you'll be celebrating or something like that. I'm like, oh, I don'. Yeah. But when I was single, I do wish I gathered single friends.
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Yeah.
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It really feels like a. Like a missed opportunity. Shaking my dang head.
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Shaking your dang head.
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If I could go back in time, I wouldn't because I'm partnered, and I like it.
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I like where I'm at. Don't want to change.
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That's really nice.
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Yeah, that's nice.
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Do you remember any. Is there, like, memorable Valentine's Day surprises or gifts that your girlfriend has gotten you partners?
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Yeah, definitely. When I was shooting Agatha in Georgia in the winter, so we started in January. So Valentine's Day was coming up, and my girlfriend was staying with me, and I think I was shooting that day, so we couldn't actually do anything that day. But then I came home, and she had made the couch into a bed and gotten us a pizza, which. We love your favorite thing.
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You both have tattoos of pizza.
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We do both have tattoos of pizza.
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As part of the reason we were like, are you. Is it meant to be? Who in the. Who in the world has a pizza tattoo? It's rare. And. And then flowers and then cookies. Chocolate chip cookies, and. And then she had, like, already ready to play a goofy movie, which is my favorite movie.
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That's really.
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Yeah. And it was just, like, the best. It was just so sweet and considerate. It was, like, nice to walk in home into that. And we just, like, snuggled on the couch and Watched the movie.
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I love that. That is so fudgeing thoughtful because it's like you worked all day, and then you come to, like, to relax with all of your favorite things, your favorite movie. A chocolate chip cookie pizza. That's so nice.
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Really, really nice.
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It's. I. I like gifts like that or experiences where you're like, oh, you really thought of me. Yeah. It's not just something you wanted me to have or wanted me to experience. I was in a relationship where a lot of his gifts were things that he wanted me to have. And for my birthday one year, we went to Disney. I'm not a Disney head.
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Yeah.
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I don't know the difference between Pluto and Goofy.
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That's true. I don't.
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It's not a magic kingdom to me. It's a place.
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It's a place.
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It's just a little. It's a place with a big parking lot and stuff to do. It's not for me. And I was like, you like that? So you were thinking, it's a thing for us to do together, but it's something that you wanted to do that you're bringing me with.
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Yeah.
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Which is fine for your birthday or any other day, but, like, it's my birthday. I want to get wet. I want to eat sweets. I want to maybe color.
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Ooh. Yes. You have new pens.
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I do.
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New markers.
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And let me tell you, I'm having a nice time with them.
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Nice.
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I have not finished a thing.
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But you have them.
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I have them. I've broken them out a couple of times.
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Yeah. Yeah. I like it when it's, like, specific to you, when someone's like.
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Because.
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Yeah. You can go to dinner anytime, and we usually do. So it's like, yeah. Just going to a generic dinner isn't that exciting. Or like a. I don't know. Yeah, just like, it can.
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Or just.
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I mean, flowers are beautiful, too, but if it's like, if this is your favorite flower, this is your favorite food, or. Yeah. Like, I like when people are like, I remember this thing about you, and I want to celebrate that because it.
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Means they're listening, they're retaining, they're loving on you. Yeah. I now remember I gave that nice man a card with a construction thing, like one of them scoopers, and it said, I dig you. And then I wrote something on the inside, and I gave it to him. And then he was like, oh. And I was like, you didn't laugh. Do you not get it? It's a construction scooper, and it says, I dig you. Cause it's digging. And I like you, so I dig you. And he was like, no, no, I. And he was like, you have to remember, like, I. I can think a thing is funny, and I. I won't go nuts.
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You're like, why aren't you going nuts?
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Yeah. Why aren't you doing cartwheels?
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Did you not read it?
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And, like, why haven't you slammed it on the counter and screamed? But I gotta remember. Everybody's a little different. But that's, like, one of those things where I was like, oh, that was for me.
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Yeah.
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I gotta find a card that is more for him.
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Mm.
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What is that card? Mm, I don't know. When does this air? Friday, on Galentine's Day proper. Oh, Valentine's Day is.
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Galentine's day is the 13th. The day before Valentine's Day.
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I didn't know that.
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I had no idea that Galentine's Day was the day before.
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That's so funny. I thought people were having to, like, make mental sacrifices to, like, go out.
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With their partner, go out with their friends.
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That was his own separate day.
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This is nuts. And everybody just knew that.
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I did know that.
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Wow. I thought it was just, like, instead of Valentine's Day, have a Galentine's Day.
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No, I think it's like, you could do both. You could celebrate your girls on the 13th, and on the 14th, celebrate with your partner.
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Wow. Greedy.
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Why have friends and a partner?
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Oh, my God.
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Get real.
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So sure. I'm, like, blown away. We went and had our tarot cards read.
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Yes.
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By this really fun woman who had. She developed her own way of reading the tarot, which is like, you don't cut the deck. There's no shuffling. It's, like, based on your, like, date of birth and your name, I think. Yeah.
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And so it was, like, a lot of numbers involved. So she, like, we count up the numbers in your birth date and your name and then use that. And then each card had a correlating number to it. And it was very cool.
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It was cool. Also, she dressed really fun. It was like, this is lame. I almost just said it was, like, a real experience. Boo. Go home. Get out.
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But it was.
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It was like, I like when you go and do a thing where the person's into it. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Where you're like, oh, you're not, like, bored of doing this? Like, when you remember the arc light.
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But isn't it coming back? I think someone bought it.
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Wait, maybe I knew this. I just got so excited. Like, I didn't And I think I do. You know how you know something and then someone reminds you and you're like, oh, yeah, that's maybe what happened. I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Those spicy queso.
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Erased your memory.
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But, like, the. The ushers at the arclight, sometimes you'd get an usher who, before the movie, would pump you up so hard for that movie. And I'm like, you love movies. You love your job. In another life, you're Tom Cruise. Like, you love movies. And I love somebody who just, like, loves what they're doing. And the woman that we saw loved what she was doing.
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Yeah.
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I've.
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I've used airbnb experiences in other cities. I've never done it in my own city, which I guess, like, of course you can do that. I just never thought to do that. But it is a good way to, like, be able to find a niche thing that might not be, like, I don't know, just like, a big thing that everyone does all the time. It's like a very curated, like, individual experience. Yeah.
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And I feel like I spend a lot of time being like, what do I do? What do I do? A movie, a dinner, like, what do. And then. But it's, like, fun to, like, go look at Airbnb and be like, what exactly can I do?
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Yeah.
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Like, if you wanna ride a horse, they got that.
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That's true. You could ride a dang horse.
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You could ride a dang horse.
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You could ride a dang horse if you wanted to.
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But our tarot reading, I really. She said so many lovely things about you. She. And it was really fun to do it together because she was like, you're powerful. You have this power that you can harness.
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And I was like, she is powerful.
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Yeah. All my cards were like, high Priestess, like, Queen of Cups, King of wands. It was, like, royal. It was very, very nice.
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Mine was like, death, the Hanged Man. Yes. But that happens to me sometimes. I once had my cards read at a show where I. I was pulling these cards. I kept pulling death and the Hanged man and swords upside down and, like, cups up. Everything was upside down. Yeah. And the person reading them was like, oh, God, I hate to tell you, but, like, I'm reading for your love life and an evil man is coming back into your life, and you're gonna have to weather that storm and then get over it. Our tarot card lady, through our experience, did not say any of that, which is like. I was like, that's nice. That's good. But, yeah, I just. I love having My cards read. I think it's such a fun thing.
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Yeah.
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And another airbnb experience we did was making Beat it jewelry in a greenhouse. And it was a literal greenhouse with a greenhouse. I mean, it really rocked me when it was, like, a actual greenhouse. And then we went into a greenhouse. I was like, whoa, Double dipping in the greens and different greens.
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Yeah. Greens on greens.
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Greens on greens on greens on greens.
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And we made jewelry.
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Yes.
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Pause for reaching.
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The way I reached for. That was insane.
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I'm wearing mine.
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You are wearing yours. And yours is so pretty.
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Thanks.
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And I gotta say, you're very good at, like, meticulous things.
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Ooh.
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I had a hard time. Cause I was like, you counting your beads? And you were like, yes. I was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. I gotta count my beads, too. But it was. It was like. It was fun. It was very close to my house. I was like, oh, my God, I'm so close to home.
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Yeah. It was, like, in a, like, greenhouse in someone's backyard. And it was just this cute little, like, shed that had, like, jazz music and incense, and it was, like, very vibey. And we picked out our beads, and we just, like. It was this. And it was just the two of us, so it was, like, very intimate. And we just, like, gabbed and gossiped for a couple hours while we were, like, doing this. And I was like, I would come back and do this because I also.
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I was. Okay. I won't lie. I will not lie.
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I was really so, so on it.
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I was like, I don't know. Making jewelry. But then I did it, and I.
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Had a lovely time, and I made this keychain.
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It's very you, right? Yeah.
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There's stars and stuff.
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Stars. It's purple.
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And then doesn't that look like a Mario Brothers little mushroom? Yes. Maybe give a little more description for the audio pieces. A little asmr, too. Too. You're right. This is my keychain. Okay, so there's a blue Mario Brothers mushroom bead, and then a big chunky bead. And then I got some star turquoisey beads, and then some zebra or I guess these are stones that she drilled through. I don't think. Are these beads?
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I guess. I don't know.
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I don't know either. It's freaking me out. Is this a stone or a bead? But I can't wait to put it on my keychain and make my keychain even longer and louder. Truly, when I drop my keys, it sounds like. Like a car accident. It's like, it's crazy, but I, like, I don't know. I had such a fun time picking out the beads and then figuring out what the placement was. And then at one point, I was like, mm, this is off. I need another turquoise. Big one. And then I got. It's one of those things where, I don't know. I felt like a kid again. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
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That is, like. I feel like a crafting activity that would. Someone would assign students to make them shut up for a minute.
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Yeah. Hi. Speaking of crafts as a child, do you remember any bad crafts that you did? The reason I ask is I got one.
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Please tell me.
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When I was in Girl Scouts, I think I was a Daisy Scout, they said, here are mats. Door mats. Paint them. Paint a doormat for my feet to go on.
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What? So it gets dirty.
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Interesting.
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I was so mad the whole time we were doing it.
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I did that too.
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And I remember. I can't remember where we were. I don't think it was in someone's house. I think it was in, like, a rec center. I remember I would not paint with the girls. I painted in the corner because I was like, this is dumb. This is so dumb. I was so mad. And I'm a hundred percent sure my mother threw it away. Yeah.
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Because also, like, that's the first thing in front of your front door.
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Yeah. Something a child made that's like, no one wants that. And then, you know, it's, like, kind of bristly, so then the paint would goop the bristles.
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Sounds like someone had, like, a surplus of doormats. And they're like, oh, craft day, probably.
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Wait. Describe your necklace that you made.
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Can you hear? Can you hear it? Is this my necklace?
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Can you hear it? Could hear it.
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And the middle stone is like a moonstone. Well, I don't think it's real moonstone, but it's, like, looks like a moonstone. And then there's actual moon shape on it. And then the beads are brown, gold, shimmery. And then, like, a muted kind of tan color. And then, like, I put little white beads in between. I counted 10 beads for each color. 10 beads, a white one. 10 beads, a white one dot 10 beads and a white one. And I like it.
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I like it a lot. It's very you. It's very sashier colors.
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Thank you.
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Are you an earth sign? No water.
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No earth sign.
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Ah. I don't know anything about the sign.
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And that's why that stopped.
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Okay.
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So I have been. I've been fucking with gold jewelry. I didn't wear any today because I, you know, that I've been dipping into. I want to look like an old woman from Harlem with, like, just lots and lots of gold jewelry, big acrylics, and door knocker earrings. And I've been doing pretty well.
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Yes.
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I was running late today, and I didn't.
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It's okay.
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But I made this necklace, and I wanted it to be very long because I have a bunch of short ones. And I was like, oh, I don't have, like, a long guy. And I didn't count beads good. And I strung them up, and then I said, well, this is going to be shorter than I wanted it to be because I don't have the strength.
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I can't.
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I can't re. Unbead, Rebead. But to describe. That's my necklace. I counted, I think. One, two, three, four, five, six. Crazy that you remembered how many you.
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You put.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. I didn't want to copy you fully nine gold. Okay, so there's six just gold beads. And then. Ooh. And then three funky. Oh, I didn't do good at all. This side has three, that side has four.
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But it doesn't have to be symmetrical.
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It should be. So we got some funky gold beads and then silver hearts. Funky nine funkies. And then we got silver heart. And then we got macaronis, because they look like little macaronis. And then funky gold and then more hearts. And then we got some stars, which I didn't really understand how they were gonna lay out, so they're a little. They're weird. Oh, dang. And then that wasn't supposed to have two hearts there, but it does. Oh, wait, no, it's supposed to. This is wild. Like, it's as if I made this and then went, ah.
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I don't remember anything.
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You just blacked out.
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It really looks like this is the first time I'm seeing this. And I took this out and showed the nice man.
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I was like, look at my beat.
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And then there's a bunch of stars in the middle because I'm a star.
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Yes, girl.
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And I don't want the world to forget it. So I'm gonna wear stars all the time.
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I like that.
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I really want to get a star ring. I saw a big sterling silver star ring, and I was like, that looks nice. I have not bought it yet because I have to wait till the end of the month.
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Like, for checks to come in, or.
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Times are tough. My therapist, my lovely, lovely therapist was like, fill up the Carts. You like browsing? You like shopping online. Fill up the carts. Wait till the end of the month if it's still available, if you still want it. It was meant to be.
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Oh.
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And it has been a struggle.
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Yeah. But I like that guideline.
A
Me too. And it's been really tough to follow. And my guideline, I also was like, I'm not buying new things this year. I bought so much, but most of it's used.
C
Okay.
A
I got this. This is from depop. Okay, great.
C
As long as it's secondhand. Yeah.
A
And I wore this because I was like, wow, they really shouldn't be friends. A puppy and a cat.
C
What an odd couple.
A
They're an odd couple. Like me and Sashoo.
C
I'm the puppy, or am I the cat?
A
Oh, see, I figured you were the cat because this puppy's like, I'm crazy.
C
That's true. That's true. I feel like the cat's like. It's got, like, a blue bow. It feels like, adorned. Like you would, like. I don't know.
A
Oh, my God. Thank you for saying I'd be adorned. Yeah, I really liked that word. Oh, my God. She's adorned.
C
She's adorned.
A
I. It was fun to watch you. Maybe you have small hands, but, like, you're really nimble. It was, like, really wild to, like, I don't know. You were moving fast. You could be a factory worker. Like a. I think you were done before me.
C
I think I was.
A
Yeah.
C
But I also was already in the jewelry making zone.
A
Oh, yeah. Cause you had made jewelry in Guatemala.
C
Yes. Yeah. I. I love an activity. And I was there for a wedding, and my girlfriend was in the wedding, so I didn't see her for half the day. Cause she was, like, getting ready for it with the bridal party. And I was like, I'm gonna find a class. And I found this jewelry making class, and it was so fun. And they, like, made these ceramic beads by hand, and.
A
That's nice.
C
And it was, like, not that different from the class that we took. And. And the woman was explaining that I could use the wire to just dig into the beads, into the bowl. She was like, some people just do this. And I was like, oh, maybe I'll do that.
A
And you cared to not share that information?
C
Well, you were so far behind that you. I don't even know when you started stringing them. But I was like, she'll get to it. You're still arranging it. You were very meticulous, too. You were like, here, maybe. No, I don't Heart over here. And then you kept going back up to the. To the bead bar.
A
Yeah, because I was like, I need more beads. But I can't believe that you left me behind. You're not George W. Bush, because you left this child behind. Damn.
C
Yeah, but it wasn't. I feel like that technique of, like, dipping the wire into the pool of beads works when they're tiny beads like this.
A
Ah, yeah.
C
But you had big old jangles. Yeah.
A
Another experience you can do is strut through WeHo bars with a drag queen. That's fun. I think that's super fun. Yeah, I think that's like a. I think that's a good bachelorette party.
C
I was thinking that hijacking a drag.
A
Show with your celebration, you can be the show.
C
Yeah.
A
You know, I think that's fun. What's another experience that you'd want to do?
C
I like classes. I like crafty classes. Maybe like glassblowing or like tie dye workshop. Like dyeing fabrics. A bird house making thing. A birdhouse making thing to make a birdhouse. Huh. Here's.
A
Okay. So if you hang up a birdhouse at your house, how do you get them to move in?
C
I think they kind of know, or I think they, like, assess it, and they're like, this is a good place for my nest. And then they just build a nest there. I think. I don't know if I've heard of, like, a need to attract them. I think they just know for some reason.
A
Interesting.
C
Yeah.
A
I. This is gonna sound insane. Would love a bird friend. I would love a bird who, like, came to visit.
C
Yeah.
A
And just, like, hung out with me outside.
C
Yeah, that could happen.
A
I don't know. How. How do I get the birds to me?
C
I don't know. I try. My girlfriend got me a bunch of crow feed. Like, food for crows. Because I have a lot of crows in my yard and in my neighborhood. And I was like, I wanna be the crow lady. Sign me up. I'm about to be the crow lady of this neighborhood. But then I talked to somebody about it. Cause they have a lot of crows and they feed them, but they're like, you have to feed them regularly. Oh, certainly. They get mad and they start screaming at you. And I was like, well, I don't want that.
A
I don't want them to get used.
C
To and expect me to feed them. I wanted them to be independent.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah. So I don't know. So I'm like, on the fence. I'm like, I want the crows around, but also would love for Them to bring me things. You can train them to do that too.
A
Yeah. I want treats.
C
Mm.
A
Imagine if crows stole ice cream cones from me.
C
That seems messy. Do you really want an ice cream cone from a crow?
A
Here's the thing. Sometimes I really fantasize about being in a cartoon, because to me, that's not messy. To me, that's two crows working together with their little beaks holding the bottom of it and bringing it to me. And then I'm like.
C
It'd be like, I like a messed up cone by the time it gets to you.
A
Yeah, probably because it's got to fly through the air. All right, fine. Do you have any plans for Valentine's Day this year?
C
I do. I mean, yes and no.
A
Like we were.
C
No, no.
A
Fair. Fair. That happens sometimes. Yeah, you thought you did and you don't. When you think about it, we.
C
So we were gonna be in la, but we're not gonna be in LA on Valentine's Day, so the plans that I had are no longer happening. But my girlfriend found something that she does wanna do with me, but it's gonna have to be weeks from now, scheduling wise. So we will do something in the future, but not. And we'll probably, like, do something together on Valentine's Day, but it won't be like that thing that we had planned.
A
I see.
C
Yes.
A
I see. Why you didn't want to explain was a lot.
C
Yeah.
A
And honestly, I really thank you for letting me in. And America, now America can know the ins and outs. They know exactly what's going to be going on today, because today is Galentine's day.
B
This is crazy that it's not on.
C
The 14th, but it should be its own thing.
A
You're right.
B
And it makes sense.
A
I'm just fully blown away.
C
Yeah.
A
What am I doing on the 13th? I don't know.
B
Let's see what the potato has to say.
A
I love potato. I don't think I'm doing a dang thing. No, I am doing. Actually, I don't know. I had a you situation. Yeah, well, I have something planned, but Clyde, my puppy, my dog. He's not a puppy. I've talked about this on so many podcasts. He had surgery and I don't want to leave him alone while he's on medication. Yeah, that makes sense because I don't know. What if something goes awry?
C
Yeah.
A
So I had plans, but I think I'm probably going to stay home with him.
C
He'll spark.
A
Boy, oh, boy.
C
But, oh, boy.
A
What's one of your favorite things about having a strong, lasting female friendship, not specifically with me, but just in general.
B
I don't know why I asked.
C
One of my favorite things about my long lasting friendship with any female, not specifically you.
A
Any female. Any woman.
C
My favorite thing, I think there's, like, a level of intimacy that, like, just feels different than a romantic partnership and that I, like, love and feel is necessary. Like, yeah, I don't think I'd want to only have a romantic partnership and not feel the benefits of a strong female friendship.
A
And.
C
Yeah, there's like a level of comfort there too, where it feels like, I guess, like a sister. Like, you know all my stuff and it feels like very easy and comfortable and like, I like that we can, like, hang out and not have to talk to each other. Or like, we could just, like, be around each other, but still, like, there's no, like, we don't have to put effort into, like, entertaining each other. Or like, like, do you like this thing? It's like, you'll just tell me if you like it or you don't. Don't like it. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's.
A
I think that's my favorite thing about having a, like, a long lasting female friendship is you don't really have to make this will sound wild. Like, sacrifice. Sometimes you make a sacrifice in a relationship because you're like, I don't ever want to do that thing, but it's important to you, so I'll do it. But with my friends, I'm like, oh, hey, you won't see me there. Like, one of my best fucking feelings was we were going to an estate sale in the morning and I was already fucking dragging. And then parking was crazy. And then I saw you guys in this line and I was like, wait, what?
B
That's where you are. There's all those people. I said, you'll never see me again. Then I left. I had never felt so good. I was like, I felt like Nicole Kimmin after her divorce.
C
I was like, I went home, I.
B
Got back in bed and I said, mm.
A
Nobody was mad at me.
C
This is true. We're like that. Understandable. We'll see you tomorrow.
B
But I feel like if it was a partner, it was like, well, we made these plans. It's just you and me. That's true.
A
You know?
C
And I.
B
It was so nice.
A
Everyone was smiling.
B
Wave goodbye.
A
I think I really rolled down my.
B
Window and I was like, you'll never see me again. You want me to wait in that line? Get real. Grow up.
C
It really also made the whole line Laugh. Everyone's like, she's right.
B
This is ridiculous.
C
We also don't want to be waiting this long.
A
And then for a hot second, I was like, what if there's treasures? And I said, there's nothing in there for me, and I like going home.
C
You were right. There was, like, one flamingo mug for you, and Tessa got it for you.
B
Yeah, I still got it.
A
I fully won. Oh, I love that mug. I use it all the time.
C
Oh, good.
A
I put ice cream in it. I love eating ice cream out of a mug. And I use my Ninja Creami.
B
This episode is not sponsored by Ninja Creami. I love my Ninja Cream.
C
I should be sponsored by Ninja Creamy.
A
I. If Ninja Creamy, like, wanted to partner with me on something, I would die.
C
Yeah.
A
I just want to. I want to meet a crematician. Like the cremateers, the people developing creamy technology.
C
Oh.
A
I want to learn. I don't understand it.
C
You know what? There might be an ice cream making class on Airbnb.
A
Ally or Mars. Can you look up whether there's an ice cream to be had on Airbnb?
C
Yeah. You can make Italian gelato in a professional lab.
B
Ooh, in a lab.
C
Lab. You were looking for that? A crematician.
B
You ever get so excited? You're like, I'm gonna do that. I'm going to space.
A
Wait, that's so fun. I would really like to do that. Yes. Would you do that with me?
C
Yeah. Shake on it.
A
It's on camera.
C
You promised.
B
I'll do it.
A
If you break it, I'm coming to your house.
B
Cause I know where you live.
C
We still have to do our date.
A
We.
C
Damn it.
B
We do have to do our date.
C
We have. I. I got you a box of 100 dates. Was it 100? No, no.
A
12. It's only 12.
C
Yeah. Not a hundred.
A
It's one per month.
C
One per month. A date.
A
A month. Yes.
C
And it's in these little sealed envelopes, so we don't know what it is. And then we have to open it and then go on the date. But the first time, what happened? I can't remember what happened. But I know the last time we. We were supposed to do it, you had just gotten your tooth pull, and you were, like, really out of it.
A
Yes. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Life without that tooth has been a wild ride. A rollercoaster of ups and downs. Because I'm no longer in pain. I didn't realize how much of a pain it was, but there's just a hole back there.
B
It's crazy.
C
Pretty wild.
A
It's really crazy. Yeah. Sometimes my tongue will graze it. I'm like.
B
The teeth aren't supposed to start there. It feels nuts.
C
That's funny.
A
And I. My mouth. So it sometimes feels like I'm at the beach because it feels like wind is bringing sand into my mouth. That's the only way I can describe it because I have a bone graft and the bone graft, I guess out of the grafting is little granules. I don't know. I didn't ask follow up questions. She just said it might be a little grainy up in there. And I said, got you. She didn't say it like that.
B
She was much more professional.
C
Might be a little grainy up in there.
A
Bitch, when you go home, it's gonna get grainy.
B
It's gonna be grainy as hell.
A
But yeah, sometimes it's just a little grainy. It's a little strange.
C
Okay.
A
Cause it's. I've said it on many podcasts. Cadaver bones and cow bones. Yeah. And I hope I don't get possessed.
C
I hope not either.
A
Imagine.
C
That'd be pretty funny actually if you.
A
Got became a cow.
C
At least be more clear because it's like, oh, okay, the cow's taking over right now.
A
That's really nice to know that you would still be my friend if I. Even if I was like possessed by cow.
C
Absolutely.
A
It's really nice. I'd be your friend still if you got possessed by a cow every now and again.
C
Thank you. I would try to milk you. Ew.
B
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I would never milk a friend.
C
That's not like the ghost of the cow can still produce milk.
B
Hey, shut up.
A
No, that absolutely makes sense. Sometimes. Sometimes my mind works wrong. You know I've gotten into watches.
C
Yes.
A
I have so many watches now that I wish I was wearing one. But I got ready too late. But I was out to dinner with that nice man and I was like, my watch doesn't work. It's stuck on 6:10. And he was like, oh, well. He's like, you could. You could get a battery. And I was like, no, I don't really care. It's just for the look.
B
And I went, It's 6:10 somewhere.
A
And he was like, no. I was like, what? He was like, the joke is the time now. And you go like, like when it's 6:00am and. Or no, like, like 3:00pm and someone's like, it's 3:00pm somewhere to like have a drink. Like that's the joke. And I was like, what?
B
But maybe it's 6:10 somewhere. Because the time.
A
Time.
C
Maybe it is 6:10.
A
He was like, maybe, but the joke is. And I was like.
B
And it took me a really long.
A
Time to understand what he was trying to say to me. And I was like. And when I finally got it, I was like, oh, my God. You can't just say willy nilly time.
B
You can't now.
C
Yeah. There's only like a few chances for.
A
It to be 610 somewhere.
B
Yep.
C
Mm.
A
And this is at that same dinner I put that we were celebrating something and the server said, what? And I said, black History Month. So it was truly just like, bow, bow, bow.
C
He's like.
B
He's like, what's happening? She's being insane tonight.
A
That's fun. And then we were eating dessert, and I was like, do you want more? Cause it was soft serve ice cream. And he was like, yes. And I was like, your spoon's down.
B
And he was like, I'm taking a break. And I was like, well, if you don't get back in the game, it might be gone. He was like, just save some for me. And I said, I don't know if that's possible. I can't stop myself. He deals with a lot.
C
My girlfriend did that to me recently. I was like, drinking this, like, lavender lemonade something or other. And I like. I guess I was drinking it slowly because I also had a lot of ice and I don't like ice.
A
Yes.
C
And then I went to the bathroom, came back, and half of it was gone. And I was like, what happened to my drink? And she was like, you didn't like it? And I was like, did I say that?
A
And as the other person. Because I don't.
C
I don't.
A
I don't. I'm gobbling. How did. How did you feel?
C
I felt betrayed. I was like, why didn't you ask me? She's like, you weren't drinking it fast, so I assumed you didn't like it.
A
But I was like, you could have.
C
Just said, do you like this? If not, I'll have it.
A
I was like, I actually did like it.
C
It was just too cold for me.
A
That's really funny because I'm on her side. I would absolutely. Sometimes he'll leave things on his plate and I'll be like, so you didn't like that? So I can have it. He's like, I'm eating dinner.
B
I'm just.
A
I decided to. I went this way. And I'm making my way over and I'm like, I know. There's so much potato left. So I don't. You don't like those pureed potatoes? And he's like, just let me eat dinner.
C
Give me a sec.
B
Just let me eat.
A
But I'm like, you.
B
I just.
A
I don't get it. I'm on her side. I would suck that down. So I would have drank the whole thing while you were gone to get rid of it for you. Defend your honor. You don't like that tea.
C
It's insulting her. Get it out of her face.
A
But later, he was like, I just. You know. And I was like, maybe we just don't share desserts.
B
And he's like, that's not it. He's like, maybe you calm down a little bit.
A
I was like, you know, I like a frosted tree. I have to really learn that, like, people eat at their own speed, and I can't police it. That was a wild thing I just said. People eat at their own speed, and I can't police it.
C
I mean, it is wild for me because I'm an eater, and you know that. Yes. And I have done that to other people, too. And been like, you're not done with that chicken sandwich.
A
Let me ask.
B
Do you remember when we went to Burger King?
A
We were.
C
Was I high?
A
Well, we both high.
C
We were both high.
B
I think we took a Uber.
C
Yes.
B
Just took the drive through at Burger King. And then I also asked the driver if he wanted to order, too.
A
Yes. He was like, I'm good.
B
And we got back to the hotel room.
A
This is funny. Cause the next morning, you were, like, squatting, eating.
B
Why are you doing it like that?
A
Anyway, so we're eating Burger King in bed, and you.
B
In two bites, the sandwich was gone. Like, wait, I think you ate it in the car.
A
I did eat it in the car.
C
So I had finished already.
A
You just had maybe French fries left. Yeah. But it was truly wild. Like, we handed you the food, and then I, like, got my food. And then you were like.
B
Like, it was gone. It was so funny. And then, for whatever reason, sitting in bed, I was just like, I go watch television, take another bite, and put it down. Then you went.
C
I felt like I was shaking.
B
I was like, I can't believe you just put the sandwich on the nightstand like that and you're not. Are you gonna.
C
Are you done?
A
Or you slowly looked at me and.
B
Went, are you gonna eat? And I was like, yes. But in your defense, it's the slowest.
A
I've ever eaten anything.
B
I couldn't believe it. You were setting it down in between.
C
Bites, and I was like, she clearly doesn't want it.
A
Never done that before in my whole life. That's how high I was. I couldn't handle chicken.
B
Are you gonna. You, like, leaned over. You're, like, near tears. Are you gonna eat that?
A
I think you ended up eating some of it.
C
You did look scared.
B
And then you were like, yes, I'm gonna eat. And, yeah, I think eventually you were.
C
Like, you can just have the rest.
B
You can just have it.
A
Which is also another thing I've never done.
B
I finish meals.
A
I, too, am an eater.
C
Yeah. I think the lead had different reactions on us.
A
That's a good memory. Yeah. I haven't thought about that in years.
C
It was really funny.
B
Are you ghou.
A
I don't even think you were looking at me. I think you were looking at the sandwich.
B
He's so funny. I'm like, thank you.
A
No, the chicken sandwich. And I can't remember, were they long chicken sandwiches?
C
Ooh, I don't know.
B
Ooh.
C
I say that because when I was in Guatemala, I saw a billboard that had the long chicken sandwich, and they don't have them anymore.
B
They do have them. What? Are you kidding? I thought they got rid of. I thought they were discontinued. No, you can go to any Burger King, always. I thought they didn't have them for a while. I don't think the long chicken's.
A
It's a staple, and I don't think.
B
It'S ever been discontinued. I was like, ooh, a treat.
C
I didn't get it.
A
But I was.
C
You didn't get it? I can't have fast food. It'll tear me up.
A
I think you could have. In Guatemala.
C
Oh, probably. They probably use real ingredients.
A
When Poonam and I were in Menorca, Mallorca, we had Burger King, like, three times, four times. We ate it so much that people were like, well, it must be good.
B
If they keep going back.
A
And it was so good. Oh, the long chicken was so good.
C
Ooh, maybe you could have had it.
A
It's okay. Next time you leave the country, eat some Burger King. I will taste the cuisines of the land, but make sure you get to. You get that Whopper. The King said, you can have it your way.
C
I can have my way.
A
That's such a good slogan.
C
Yeah.
A
You can have it your way. You're the boss here.
C
I do like that.
A
I also like McDonald's.
B
I'm loving it. I'm loving it. What did I say? I'm Loving it. Wait, that was so crazy because I was like, I did it good. Why is she doing it back at me? We should probably end this episode.
C
Oh, yeah. Okay.
B
It feels like I'm on drugs.
A
What was in those spicy queso pop chips?
C
Jacked you up.
A
Well, Sasheer, suck it down. Thank you.
B
Thank you so much for being here.
A
I truly have so much fun with you always.
C
I have so much fun with you always.
A
You're my Galentine.
C
You're my long established female friendship. Is that what you said?
A
Something almost as insane as that. Well, if you like this episode of why won't you date me? You could like it, you could rate it, you could sub. Oh, wait. Do you have anything you want to promote?
C
Oh, Best friends.
A
That's our podcast.
C
That's our podcast. And that's it.
A
You can also watch Agatha all along. It's streaming on Disney, and so sheer is truly incredible in it. And I don't know, I think it's, like, a lovely thing to watch also. If you watched it, rewatch it. I don't know.
C
It's a great rewatch.
A
It's funny.
C
Find things that you didn't see the first time.
A
And there's a. There's a. There's an episode where her face gets all puffy. I won't explain anymore. If you like this episode, you could like it, you could rate it, you could subscribe. Give me 5 stars on Apple podcasts. Oh, wait. Would you date me?
C
Yes.
B
Would you, though?
C
Maybe I'd try.
A
Hey, thanks. Figure I'd stop you right there before.
B
You said something mean something I wouldn't want to hear. Wait, have I asked you. Have I asked the Shira? She would date me before, I think.
C
So at one point. I don't know if it was through every episode I've done here, but I think you've at least asked me once.
A
I wonder what those answers are.
C
I feel like one time I did say yes.
A
At least.
C
At least once.
A
Once I said yes.
B
Well, I just.
A
I think maybe we could try. But I think. I think I would do a lot of things that would get on your nerves and vice versa. You're not perfect.
B
The hell?
A
I think we. I think the things that we like about each other, I think together, would. We would, like, start to resent each other about it.
C
Yeah, I think it would just not go very far.
A
Like.
C
Yeah, romantically, I think, like, eventually we'd be like, I don't think we're compatible in that way.
A
What would it be like to kiss?
B
Also, if you write Me a dirty message hitting on me while I said it. And I was like, I don't know if I could.
A
It would be like kissing assistant.
C
Exactly.
A
I don't think I would feel like Marty McFly when he goes back to and his and his mom's mom.
C
Yeah.
A
The hots for him. And then they kiss and they're like, whoa, Marty. I don't know what was up with that, but it didn't feel right. I'm paraphrasing. She didn't say it like that. If you write me a nasty message to why won't you date me? Podcastmail.com and you got a hit on me saying something nasty, I'll read it out loud. And also, I have to tell you, please keep them short. I have to tell you, please keep them.
C
I have to tell you.
A
Well, it's because there was another page here and I was like, oh, did I miss something? I didn't. All right, this person writes, hi, Nicole. Valentine's Day is for your boo. But they say Galentine's is for the girls to celebrate. I want to scissor you so hard that the friction of our clits starts a fire and set off the smoke alarm. But before the fire truck even turns the corner, we'll come in unison.
B
This is funny.
A
Squirting so much that we extinguish the flames ourselves. But the fire department doesn't take chances. They will bust down the door and blast our throbbing hot coochies. Oh, I guess. Yeah. We started a fire so they would be hot with their high pressured hoses until we come again, drenching the room, the men, and the entire zip code in our coochie juice. Hope you have a nice Galentine's Day and Valentine's Day from Sandra. Hey, Sandra.
B
I don't like.
C
Isn't that just a point?
B
Yeah, I couldn't think of a thing to say. Oh, thank you.
C
Yeah, she made you come multiple times.
A
Say thank you. Thank you, Sandra.
B
Happy Galentine's Day.
A
And happy Valentine's Day.
B
That was a hit gum podcast.
A
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Release Date: February 13, 2026
Guests: Nicole Byer (host), Sasheer Zamata (guest)
This special Galentine’s Day episode sees comedian Nicole Byer joined by her best friend, comedian and actress Sasheer Zamata. Rather than diving into the usual romantic ups and downs, the pair celebrate the joys, intimacy, and quirks of long-term female friendship. They cover the origins of Galentine’s Day, discuss the role of platonic love, swap stories about crafting and gift-giving, and reminisce about some of their silliest, most heartfelt shared experiences.
The episode is light, irreverent, and filled with genuine warmth. Nicole and Sasheer’s comedic rapport is on full display, as is their real affection and comfort with one another. They celebrate platonic love, reminisce about their quirks, and encourage listeners to cherish chosen family—especially on holidays focused on romance.
This episode is a heartfelt, hilarious ode to the power of friendship, perfect for anyone needing a reminder that love comes in many forms—especially those that make you laugh until you cry.