Tossing Shade (w/ Bosco)

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Why Won't You Date Me?" with Nicole Byer

Episode: Tossing Shade (w/ Bosco)
Date: June 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant episode, comedian Nicole Byer welcomes Bosco—a renowned drag queen, RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 14 contestant, and All Stars 10 winner (per Nicole’s playful intro)—to discuss the messiness of love, dating, drag, and selfhood. The conversation flows through personal histories, the realities and humor of queer experiences, transitioning within the limelight, the economics of gender affirmation, and the true value of friendship—peppered with candid humor and plenty of shade.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bosco’s Drag Race and Career Adventures

• Packing the Coffin & Iconic Looks (02:18–04:05)
  • Nicole praises Bosco’s inventive performances and iconic props, notably the infamous “coffin.” Bosco shares about sneaking it in by just “pretending it was luggage full of wigs.”
  • Notable Quote:
    "I'm just like, this is one of my luggage. And they're like, what? I'm like, it's on set. What are you going to do? Not let me use it." – Bosco (03:31)
• All Stars 10 Experience (03:13)
  • Nicole gushes: “I adore everything you did on All Stars 10. Like, every performance, every look.”

2. Cosmetic Procedures, Gender, and Drag

• Openness About Surgery (04:05–08:17)
  • Both discuss plastic surgery in the drag/queer world—Bosco candidly reflects on their own procedures (face, chest)—and Nicole’s mixed feelings about surgery.
  • Notable Quote:
    "I've had, like, really lovely experiences with surgery where, like, I go to bed and I wake up hotter. And that's kind of the ideal." – Bosco (04:12)
  • They riff on the trial and error of medical advancements, and the visible rise in facial feminization surgeries among drag queens—not just trans women.
  • Notable Quote:
    “But they're not gonna transition. …Oh, there's just like a newfound phenomenon where girls who are not girls all the time are getting their face done to look more like girls.” – Bosco (11:20)
  • Discussion on access, cost, and medical safety features prominently later.

3. Dating While Queer, In Small Towns and Beyond

• Early Dating & Being Queer in Montana (05:39–06:27)
  • Bosco shares growing up in Great Falls, Montana—where being openly queer was rare and dating options slim.
  • Memorable Line:
    "So me and the other two gay people, we all knew of each other. We all got drunk and made out at least once, and we're like, I don't think so." – Bosco (06:06)
• Dating History & Current Relationship (08:38–10:03, 24:18–24:51)
  • Bosco describes a boring/brief dating history, most notably finding love with their now-fiancé Blake, after navigating unsatisfying encounters with “men too dumb to bring around my friends.”
    • “You're hot enough to fuck, but I simply can't breathe. …You can't hang.” – Nicole & Bosco (09:12–09:20)
  • Bosco met Blake after a show in Seattle, with their relationship solidified during the pandemic and “after my mom died.”

4. Friendship, Drag Sisterhood, and Constructive Critique

• Seattle Drag Sisterhood (12:39–14:05)
  • Bosco, Irene (the Alien), and Jane “Don’t” form a drag family; their approach is one of playful shade and ambition—bringing in new sisters who succeed.
• Achieving “Polished Drag” (14:30–15:19)
  • The recipe: “Mean friends that call you an ugly man when you look bad.” Honest feedback is crucial, not just compliments.
  • Notable Quote:
    “If she looks good, it's because somebody's been mean to her several times. It does not happen by accident.” – Bosco (15:15)

5. Nerd Nooks: Magic the Gathering & Improv

• Bosco & Magic the Gathering (21:11–22:01)
  • Bosco explains their YouTube show “Spell Slayers” and affection for card games—a fun yet “deeply nerdy” passion.
  • Nicole appreciates people with interests (“Some people are really boring”).
• Improv & Drag as Professions (22:01–23:06)
  • Both poke fun at bad improv, noting similarities to drag: “You see bad drag, you're like, my profession is a joke. …Honestly, I can't believe anybody gives me money.” – Bosco (22:57–23:06)

6. Comment Sections, Body Image, and Online Critique

• They discuss going viral, reading mean online comments, and the strange, sometimes “backhanded” support from strangers.
  • “Hey, she used to be almost 300 pounds. She's just getting to places she could touch. Be easy on her.” – Nicole relays a comment (19:14)
• Both agree friends should bring honesty (“Why you eating so much?”) but sometimes boundaries are needed.

7. Money, Healthcare, and the Economics of Transition (28:44–31:38)

• Bosco is honest about how TV success made transition financially possible: “To everybody at home, having more money makes your life a little easier… Money could buy me boobs. And that made me happy and a lot of people pretty fucking happy.” (29:00–29:08)
• Nicole and Bosco lament the American healthcare system, contrasting with Europe’s comparatively generous, universal care.

8. Drag Touring & ‘Marvelous Ms. Gender’

• Show Planning & Camp Aesthetic (49:08–54:54)
  • Bosco describes their upcoming national tour and one-woman show, “The Marvelous Ms. Gender,” as a campy, villainous romp with practical effects and real sets (“I don’t wanna see a show where it’s just video screens”).
  • “It's telling the story of my alter ego Misgender, who is a super villain trying to take over the world by turning everyone trans, which Is the conservatives right? It really is. What's happening.” – Bosco (49:51)
  • Passionate discussion on the value of practical stagecraft, the need for “razzle dazzle,” and the difficulty of ticket sales in 2026.

9. Tattoos & Self-Expression

• Bosco shares their tattoos, most with little personal meaning, while Nicole details her food-themed and comedic “little fatty” tattoos.
  • “The funniest things are the things that like a mean 12 year old would say. …little fatty's crazy. I like that though.” – Bosco (44:32)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Surgery:
  “It's freaky how easy it is until it's not.” – Bosco (04:12)
  “You always let your sister go and get the work done first… and then you get to see, like, No, I didn't. I don't think that worked out.” – Bosco (08:19)
• On Friendship/Dating:
  “If she looks good, it's because somebody's been mean to her several times.” – Bosco (15:15)
• On Wealth & Transition:
  “Money could buy me boobs. And that made me happy and a lot of people pretty fucking happy.” – Bosco (29:07)
• On Self-Love/Singleness:
  “I do think there's a lot of things to love about being single. …If I didn't love Blake so much and didn't love our life together, I would still be single. …I feel like when you build into yourself, people get more interested and want to be with you.” – Bosco (37:37–38:25)
• On Practical Drag Shows:
  “I don't want to see a show where it's just video screens. I want to be able to reach out and feel and touch things.” – Bosco (50:18)
• On ‘Razzle Dazzle’ in Drag:
  “People are missing razzle dazzle. And I think drag queens are really good at razzle dazzle.” – Bosco (54:50)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Nicole’s Intro & Drag Race Praise: 02:18–04:05
• Surgery & Transition Candor: 04:05–08:17, 28:44–31:38
• Small-Town Queer Upbringing: 05:39–06:27
• Shade & Friendship in Drag: 12:39–15:19
• Discussion of Magic the Gathering: 21:11–22:01
• Going Viral & Online Critique: 18:53–20:16
• Healthcare Access & Transition Realities: 28:44–31:38
• Tour & Show Details ("Marvelous Ms. Gender"): 49:08–54:54
• Closing Light Q&A (Would You Date Me?): 57:45

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Style & Tone

As always, Nicole Byer anchors with her signature warmth, irreverence, and vulnerability, while Bosco matches her with biting dry wit, playful candor, and a dash of high-camp melodrama. The conversation is fast-paced, hilarious, sometimes poignant, with both giving real talk on personal growth, queer realities, and the evolving art of drag.

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For Listeners New to the Episode

This episode is a masterclass in queer candor, drag community, and authentic humor. It’s a peek into both the real and ridiculous parts of queer life—shot through with the shade, self-deprecation, and wisdom that only Nicole Byer and Bosco can deliver. If you want the tea on dating, drag, transition, and making your own razzle dazzle, don’t miss this wide-ranging, entertaining conversation.

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Transcript

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Sorry. No, it's not.

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Here's another episode of why won't you date me? A podcast where me, Nicole Byer, was trying to figure out why I was so single. Even though you could come on a sewing machine and tell me that's Thread. My guest today is an iconic drag queen who competed on season 14 of RuPaul's Drag Race and my winner of season 10 of All Stars. She now hosts Spell slayers, a new YouTube channel covering all things the gathering and you can catch her on the Marvelous Ms. Gender tour on a 33 city tour across the United right now.

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Oh, my God. You can take a break. Take a breath. Take a break. She's back. Oh, my God. Thank you. Oh, my God. You're like my LinkedIn. That was crazy. And you did that like in one breath. That was gaggy. Thank you so much.

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Of course. Okay.

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I feel like maybe also winner. You're a winner.

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I adore everything you did on All Stars 10. Like every performance, every look. I mean, I'm sure you've been asked, how did you pack the coffin? Because. And I'm not going to ask because I'm not basic. I figured.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

You got it there. Whatever.

[B]

Yeah. I just kind of showed up with it and told them that it was one of my bags because I put my wigs in. I put my wigs in it. I'm just like, this is one of my luggage. And they're like, what? I'm like, it's on set. What are you going to do? Not let me use it. But yeah, I digress.

[A]

Truly, everything, like, you looked so fabulous that I was like, where'd you get them titties? I truly DMed you and was like, where'd you get.

[B]

Didn't I send you? I.

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You told me.

[B]

Okay, good. Okay. I'm like, I don't like to gatekeep that information. I've told several people where to get these titties, so.

[A]

Good. Thank you. I dream of getting my titties done, but I'm scared. I'm so scared of surgery.

[B]

Okay. It is kind of freaky, right? It's also freaky how easy it is until it's not because, like, elaborate. I've had, like, really lovely experiences with surgery where like, I go to bed and I wake up hotter. And that's kind of the ideal. So I'm just like, I'm not scared of it anymore. But then you see people where they go to bed and they wake up dying.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And that's the kind of scary part that I'm almost. I'm like too comfortable with surgery now.

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I get it. I know you get there. It's cool because it's like. Cause you've had your face done, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yes. I went to your face reveal in. Was it in West Hollywood a couple of years ago?

[B]

It was, it was. I believe it's Beaches now, but it was Hart at the time.

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Yes. I was there. You looked fabulous. I truly adore you. I think you're so talented and wonderful. This is where you find out. I'm like, I live in your closet.

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You're more than welcome to.

[A]

Wait, do you live here now, or do you still live in Seattle?

[B]

I'm still in Seattle. I'm really stubborn, and I refuse to leave. And there's so many girls here. And I would rather kind of preside over Seattle with an iron fist, making sure that nobody else. I'm, like, pulling up the ladder behind me, just making sure that nobody can get it as good as I did in Seattle.

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I love it.

[B]

I love it. Just put it out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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I'm not helping anybody.

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I don't like. So rising tides raise all ships. I don't give a fuck. My ship is gonna be up here. Everybody else down there, Seattle loves me. I'm like the Princess Diana of Seattle.

[A]

Don't say that.

[B]

Well, they're still dead.

[A]

When did you start dating? In high school.

[B]

Oh, no. So I'm from Montana, and I'm from a really bad place in Montana called Great Falls, Montana.

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Okay.

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And I was, like, one of three openly queer people at my high school of, like, 2,000. Like, it wasn't a small high school, but, like, gay was not okay.

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Gay is not okay.

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Still isn't. But it's. It's like, yeah, it was not ideal dating ground. So me and the other two gay people, we all knew of each other. We all got drunk and made out at least once, and we're like, I don't think so.

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That's not for me.

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No, I'm just like, am I really gay?

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I didn't enjoy that. I don't know.

[B]

No, it was just like, sometimes gay people are sisters, you know? And that.

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Those are your sisters?

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Those were my sisters. Those were my evil sisters.

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How old are you? We don't have to keep this in.

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That's okay. I'm 32. I turned 33.

[A]

For whatever reason, I thought you were way younger. And I don't have. Maybe you had a facelift.

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Well, not really, but the face work, they kind of, like, go out and they gang.

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The lady makin part.

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The lady fire

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that comes with a facelift.

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Not really, but, like, so they cut this part here, rip that shit down, and then they take a little bit off, and

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that's so wild.

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They took out part of my skull.

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Really?

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There's a video of it. Are you squeamish?

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No.

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Okay.

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Can I see it?

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Yeah. I don't have it on my phone at this very moment, but it is in my little documentary thing.

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Okay.

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And then I can dig it up for you and send it to you at a later time.

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Please do. I'm not squeamish at all. I find it all so interesting. Surgery's just so interesting to me.

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It's so nar. And there's something just so extra gnarly about the face because, like, that's. That's where I live. Yes, that. That's where. Where I am. And them just whoop. Yeah.

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It's like they put you to sleep, peel down your skin, they cut a little bit of your skull out, and then they pull it back.

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And then a piece of my skull reshaped it, glued it back in. Crazy.

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I don't even know. Like. Like, science and the medical field is so. Because, like, how did they figure out how to do that?

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Trial and error, do you think? Brooklyn Heights. I'm getting. I love you, Brooklyn, and you look great in drag.

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But truly, like, how do they figure out implants? How do they figure out? It's so crazy.

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It's so crazy. We are living in a lovely time where there's been a lot of history and a lot of trial and error. Yes. So they figured out what does and doesn't work.

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Yeah.

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And then you always let your sister go and get the work done. First this trick, and then you get to see, like. No, I didn't. I don't think that worked out.

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I'm going to.

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No, no, no. Like, you're supposed to have breasts. Those look like shoulder pads. I don't think so.

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Dying. So when did you start dating?

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Oh, so true. I had. I kind of have, like, a really boring dating history. I dated. Dated one other guy before my fiance. We were together for on and off for, like, five years. Like, did long distance and whatnot, and it just fizzled because we wanted two different things out of life and went in two different directions, and that's fine. And then from there, I just had, like, a streak of fucking men that I thought were too dumb to bring around to my friends. So, like, we couldn't date.

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I'm dying. You're like. You're hot enough to fuck, but I simply can't breathe.

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You can't hang. You cannot hang.

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You can't do that.

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No. My friends will rip you apart, and I don't want to, like, subject you to that. It was, like, out of kindness.

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I like that. That's kind.

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That is kind. That's me being kind. So. Yeah. And then me and Blake just kept on hanging out and hanging out, and then eventually I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna ask you if you wanna date. And yeah, it just worked out. But honestly, I've had two boyfriends. Blake is the most serious relationship I've ever had where, like, I've moved in with somebody. We have, like, cats together and that whole thing.

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How many cats?

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We have two cats. Toby and Tito.

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Aww.

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They're very cute. I love and miss them a lot. But yeah, I really didn't, didn't and haven't dated a lot. I think it's cause I'm from a place where that was never an option growing up.

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That makes sense.

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So it just never was part of my life.

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I wonder if the place where you grew up is near Billings, Montana.

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It's not near Billings, Montana, but it is similar to Billings, Montana, except smaller and worse.

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Wow. I did a college gig in Billings. I think I've told this on the podcast, but I, like, got on a very small plane and the flight attendant was also a black woman. And she went, honey, you going to the right place. And I was like, oh, what? And I, like, looked at my phone and she was like, I'm kidding. And. And I was like, okay. And when I was getting off, she's like, you'll see. And then you never saw another black person. I was like, there we go.

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Okay. Okay.

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That was just a nice warning.

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Like a warning shot.

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Girl, be brave. Don't be out after dark.

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Do you know my favorite thing is right now?

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What?

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When the boy drag queens get facial feminizing surgery. How are you familiar with this?

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I don't know. I mean, I know what face. Femin. Feminization. Feminiz. Am I having a stroke?

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Oh, my God. Somebody called Chapel Rowan, get her in here. Show her how to pronounce a feminine omenon.

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I know what the face getting ladier is.

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I don't think J.K. rowling could have said that better herself. What about it? But what about it? Oh, there's just like a newfound phenomenon where girls who are not girls all the time are getting their face done to look more like girls. And I'm so obsessed with it because they are fully, like, doing all of the hardship for transitioning. And they're like.

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But they're not gonna transition. Yeah. You know who's a pioneer? I feel like Phoenix. Phoenix.

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Oh, my. That's what they did.

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She had her face done to look more like Madonna. Right.

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That was Venus. And Phoenix is gonna get really mad that you said that, but I think that's really cool.

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Venus delight.

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Although it's not like Phoenix is a stranger to work. So, like, I think that does make sense. Oh, no.

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I hope Phoenix doesn't come from me.

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Do you remember when she got into it with Ice Spice? Like, last year? Was it.

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Wait, I vaguely remember this, but I don't remember.

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Just a really weird little piece of trivia of the favorite dream of All Stars 10 is when she was beefing with Ice Spice.

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I gotta say, All Stars 10 was so entertaining.

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Hopefully for some. Some good reasons.

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Was so entertaining for me.

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I loved it.

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Is Irene the alien in your drag family?

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Yeah, we're like a little sisterhood situation.

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You, Irene, Jane, don't. Is it just the three of you?

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Until somebody else does really, really well on Drag Race from Seattle, and we bring them in to ride their coattails. Yep.

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So funny.

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Oh, absolutely. Performing from Drag Race.

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You did a good job. Yeah.

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You get to be part of the sisterhood for sure. No, like, I'm doing a tour this year, and I'm calling it the SS Coattails. Cause Irene's coming with us, and we're just gonna stick her on the trailer in the back. It's gonna be great.

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That's funny. Is it the three of you going on this tour?

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It's not. It's not. It's me and Irene who have a the Gathering YouTube channel together, which is delightful. I do believe Jane is going on her own tour, though. And then when her TV clout kind of dries up and she needs to come and join our little three musketeer situation, we have this so ready and figured out.

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Honestly, saying it, it sounds like a little like. Like, conniving, but it's really smart.

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I don't know. It is also just, like, realistic. Like, you do your TV moment, you have your wave, and then the easiest way to find another wave is to hitch onto somebody's wave, and then you guys build a new wave.

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Yes. I think it's very, very smart. It's. I think the word is strategery.

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I think so. I think it's ladyish strategery. Ladified strategery.

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Ladifi strategery.

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That's actually a fun drag name. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I don't know. Like, Trixie, Katya, Bob Monet. It's kind of the.

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And it's nice. Cause you're also friends.

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Yes. So you get to allegedly hang out

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with your alleged friends.

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No, it's actually really great because we were all really good friends beforehand and just, like, love and adore each other, and now we get to ruin that friendship by turning it into a business partnership.

[A]

How did you come to your drag style? Cause I feel like the three of you, it's not similar. It's just so polished.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

So how do you get polished drag?

[B]

You get really mean friends that call you an ugly man when you look bad and that, like, kind of sorts you out really quickly. Um, yeah, I think we all had very similar sensibilities of, like, what we liked in drag and what we gravitated towards and what we thought, like, made for, like, good stagecraft. Um, and then we were also not afraid to tell each other when we looked crazy. And I think that is kind of a hidden ingredient for drag queens. If she looks good, it's because somebody's been mean to her several times. It does not happen by accident. And it doesn't happen because everybody's like, you look great when you don't.

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Yes.

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But I tell everybody they look great because I'm the nice one of the three. And once again, I'm not helping anybody get. Once again, I'm not helping anybody get better.

[A]

You're pulling that ladder.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Absolutely. No,

[A]

I feel like down there, not only are you pulling up the ladder, you're stomping on their hands.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

Get out of here. I sometimes look at pictures of myself from a long time ago, and I'll be like, so did I not have a single friend in my life to say I did not look good?

[B]

I feel I felt that so many times, which is why I have such good friends with them now, because they were not scared to tell me.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

They were not scared to tell me me. Because there's so many times you look back, you're like, no one could have said anything.

[A]

No one.

[B]

No one would have said that. Those eyebrows. No, no, we couldn't. We couldn't have cleared any of that up.

[A]

For. I went through a phase where I did very, very chunky red braids that were straight to here and then had a really big spiral, and I very much looked like a poodle. So you're even laughing at the.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I would never do that.

[A]

Very poodle, like, okay. Very poodle realness. And I looked at pictures and my glasses, I had, like, broken off this nose piece because I didn't like how it looked. But then I was like, huh, It's a thing.

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Now it's my thing.

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Kind of hurts. I should get new glasses. But whatever. I did it, I'm going to own it. And I looked insane, and nobody Said anything. And then I went through a phase where I wore blue contact lenses. Nobody said a thing. Black people with blue contacts is scary. Scary.

[B]

It's kind of like the, the, what is it? The Game of Thrones White Walker situation? Yeah, the, the, the Sasha Colby eyes. The Coco Montrese eye moments.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I, I, I'm sc. Similar, similar things. I had an overtone era. Do you remember overtone? Which was like, the color depositing, like, conditioner that you could use to dye your hair instead of just using regular hair dye? No, it was really, really big in, like, 2019, 2018. And I used it to turn my hair, like, four fire engine red that faded to the color of this beautiful burnt orange table. And then I would also wear blue contacts because apparently I was in witness protection. I owe the mom a lot of money to look like a young Irish lad, and that was like, a year, and everybody just let me do that. There's also an era when I would do one colored contact but not the other, so it looked like I was a husky.

[A]

That is a choice.

[B]

I know.

[A]

That is so old. I had to wear the, like, solid colored ones because my eyes are so dark. And I would, I. Sometimes I'd be looking in the mirror and, like, glance at something else, and then the contact would slowly follow. And I was like, is this happening in front of people?

[B]

And then I was watching that.

[A]

I was like, well, gotta leave the house. Can't get to the bottom of that. And I was like, I must have been like, at the, like, Chili's ordering my little triple dipper. And I'm like, can I?

[B]

And they're like, oh, I don't know. Can you? Where is she looking? I had an era where the Bosco brows were very intense, and it kind of formed, like, a skate park ramp in the middle of my face. And I, like, would sometimes see some pictures of those. I'm just like, no one said a goddamn thing. Like, you're so beautiful.

[A]

That is so funny.

[B]

Oh, the comment section, though, that will actually get you really go to drag very quickly if you dare to brave those waters.

[A]

Yes. I had a video go viral, and it was on, like, the Sherry Shepherd Show. This was on my podcast with Sashir and. Okay, I. Okay. Do you lotion your whole body?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. So I wasn't doing that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I would only lotion what you could see.

[B]

Oh, darn it.

[A]

And I think it was my ADHD where I was like, oh, I can't fathom doing all that. I have to go. I'm already Running late. So we were talking about that. The clip went viral. And then in the comment section, people were not being kind. But then this one man said, hey, she used to be almost 300 pounds. She's just getting to places she could touch. Be easy on her. And I was like, not too much, because I don't know if you're acting.

[B]

We dug so deep to really hurt you with a compliment.

[A]

Yes. I was like. And then I had to. So I read comments sometimes because I'm like, maybe somebody will tell me something.

[B]

I don't know, enlighten me.

[A]

And in that one, I was like, maybe it wasn't just the adhd. Maybe it was a little bit of the weight, and, you know, I couldn't reach something. And I was like, oh, my God. And then I thought about it for too long, and I was like, well, you know what? I did get pretty big. Maybe if a friend was like, hey, girl, everything okay?

[B]

Why you eating so much?

[A]

Maybe I could go, hey, girl, you look huge lately.

[B]

Are you doing okay?

[A]

That's funny. That's funny. Cause I was saying it, and I was like, that would be okay.

[B]

I don't think so. I actually think there are huge lately.

[A]

Everything okay?

[B]

There's certain things where I'm like, maybe we can't be that.

[A]

No, you're absolutely right.

[B]

Maybe that's, like, the place of somebody as a stranger on the Internet. That is their job. Your friends. Maybe we don't get to do that.

[A]

Hey, girl, you've looked huge lately. My God, Bosco, that really got me good.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Cause I was trying to, like, reason it out. Being like, oh, that would be okay.

[B]

I wish somebody told me that I looked like a fat mess. And then I would have, like, that's crazy.

[A]

It is crazy. Crazy.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Oh, my God, I'm crying.

[B]

Ooh, I have to make this makeup last all day. You need to make me stop crying.

[A]

Okay, I'm sorry. How did you get into Magic the Gathering? Oh, Magic the Gathering.

[B]

Okay, I'm so sorry. This is about to get really boring and nerdy for you.

[A]

I like when people have interests. Some people are boring.

[B]

Some people are really boring. It is, like, one of the oldest, like, card game situations. Did you. Were you of the era that, like, had Yu Gi oh on tv? Do you remember that, like, little, like, anime thing? It's kind of like that, but it came first.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So it's card games with monsters on it, and you play things and you interact with other people.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Very, very fun. It's created by the same people who do dungeons and dragons, but this is, like, the. No role playing one. I didn't want to have to make improv my hobby because I have friends and I wouldn't want to do that. Yeah. Improv is just not a real art form.

[A]

Here's the thing. I do so much improv.

[B]

I do too. I do too. I'm just being an asshole.

[A]

So funny. Because when you watch bad improv, you're like, oh, boy. Or when you see it, like, in a movie where it's, like, bad, and you're like, this is what I do.

[B]

Yeah. What is it? I do Catherine o'. Hara. What is it? Oh, my God. It's the one that came before best in show. It's the same type of thing, but she's like, they're doing, like, an improv scene, and they're just, like, terrible community actors.

[A]

And it's. Yes, yes, yes. Waiting for guffman.

[B]

Waiting for guffman. Thank you. That's kind of how I feel every single time I see or subjected to improv. But I also, like, have to do improv a lot for my job and have done it on television with millions watching multiple times. So it's. Yeah. It's just also fun to make fun of.

[A]

It really is. It is. Every time I do it, I'm like, oh, my God. And then.

[B]

So then you see a really good improv, though, and you're like, anything possible?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's drag. That's drag. You see? Bad drag. You're like, my profession is a joke. Honestly, I can't believe anybody gives me money.

[A]

Oh, dragon.

[B]

When the back hair is out.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

But there's a breastplate.

[A]

Oh, iconic.

[B]

I know. I'm gonna see meatball tomorrow, so I can't wait.

[A]

Sometimes I look at meatball and I'm like, I love it.

[B]

It's a choice. Absolutely.

[A]

It is a choice that she makes every time she leaves the house. And she's like, nah, I'm not gonna shave that. No.

[B]

Nope. On the face too. Just, like, one little patch under the nose.

[A]

She texted me the other day and was like, is it weird to wear a mustache out in public? And I was like, no, no. People aren't whimsical anymore. You. You do that. That makes me happy.

[B]

I saw that picture. She looked great with the mustache, I think. Honestly, a mustache suits her face very well. Butchers her up a little. A little bit. A little. A little bit. I thought you look great with the mustache. I also love mustaches. I'm glad that they're having kind of a moment.

[A]

I like mustaches too. The only thing I don't like is when someone with a mustache drinks, and then there's drink on the mustache. And I'm like, ugh, get it together.

[B]

Yeah, like the little soup sifter moment. My fiance has, like, a beard, and sometimes I'm, like, picking shit out of his beard.

[A]

How'd you guys meet?

[B]

He used to come to my shows back when I worked locally in Seattle. And then he drunkly cornered me after one show and asked me to go to lunch with him. And I said okay. And then we did that, and then it was nice. And then we didn't talk for, like, a month for some reason. And then we started hanging out again, and then the world shut down. And then my mom died. And then I got on tv and we just kept on hanging out, and it just kept on working out. And I think we got all the hard stuff out of the way other than the crumbs and the beard.

[A]

That is wild. Wait, your mom died and then you got on tv?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was it a nice distraction?

[B]

No, it was like a year later, so it kind of was like. God was really dunking on me in that moment. Like, it was like she died. And then the lockdowns happened, so then I couldn't do drag anymore.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[B]

And then I almost got on season 13, and they're like, we have Symone. I think we're good, and I think we need. I don't think this is your time, sweetie. And I'm like, you know what? Watching that season sure wasn't. Like, she would have fucking mopped the floor with me that year. So I am so happy they waited a year.

[A]

That's interesting that. So when you got close to getting it, what is that? Like, they're like, almost just hold on a little bit.

[B]

I don't know how they do it now. Cause this was, like, four or five years ago. But there used to be, like, different portions of the casting that you'd have to go through in certain levels. And, like, there used to be, like, a level of, like, interviews and X, Y, and Z. And then, like, at that point, they're, like, considering, like, the top, I don't know, 40, 30 girls. And when you get to that point, they're usually like, hey, we want. We want to, like, utilize you at some point. We'd love to, like, work with you in the future. This just isn't the right fit for you. Ah. I don't know if they do it that way anymore. Nor do I know if I'm supposed to tell how their casting process works. But that was five years ago, and I can't imagine that NDA cut it out. We sure could. I don't think it matters because I also don't think they do it that way anymore. Sure. Okay. All right. I don't know, but it is kind

[A]

of wild to, like, have your mom die, be on tv, because it's like you're going through grief, and then now there's an added pressure of, like, more grief. You kind of have to grieve the person you were before you're like, before you're famous.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. And then you have to grieve the person everybody's finding out is famous, which is a lot. And then you, like. I don't know, you don't really get to see how you are perceived by people until you see yourself in that bird's eye view and you're like, oh, wow, I understand why some people don't fuck with me.

[A]

It is wild. Cause it's like, it is one, the edit, but then it also is two. Sometimes you're just different when there's cameras on you.

[B]

True. And then also sometimes you get a certain edit because certain things that you do read a certain way. And, like, while the context might be removed of all the other things that you do, those moments still read like that in that moment. And it just kind of gives you, like, a lesson of just like, oh, that's kind of how I come off to people. And then I thought all of that was way too easy. So then I started to transition as well. You were like, I need a little bit more character.

[A]

His ass

[B]

like, mama needs a new storyline. Let's go.

[A]

Was the choice to transition hard or was it like, no, this is. Oh, this is what I've always wanted. Let me just do it. Is that a bad question?

[B]

I don't think so, because I think it makes sense. I was, like, hesitant to really double down on, like, medical transition prior to Drag Race, even though, like, I was very non binary. Definitely was a barista, had a relationship that, with my eyebrows that could only be described as mysterious. Had a septum ring. Like, we had.

[A]

We were.

[B]

We were fully in the thick of it. Like, 2016. Hated to see me coming. I was so non binary. And like, that was a good space for me for a while. And then being perceived by the world and also seeing how I read to the world and just like, oh, I really feel like I should push further, which is something I Had always wanted to do, but was scared of. And then doing TV honestly gives you the means to do things a little bit easier and less stressful. And so we just pulled the trigger and went for it.

[A]

I think that's really interesting that you're, like, essentially you're saying you had the money to do it.

[B]

Yeah, that really helps.

[A]

It does help. It makes things.

[B]

It really helps.

[A]

A little bit easier.

[B]

Yeah. This is gonna be crazy. To everybody at home, having more money makes your life a little easier because

[A]

you know the phrase. It's like, money can't buy happiness.

[B]

And I'm like, money could buy me boobs. And that made me happy and a lot of people pretty fucking happy.

[A]

Money bought me boobs. So, yeah, money makes you happier. Money makes you feel more secure. Money makes you be able to, like, take risks and choices that if you couldn't afford, you wouldn't be able to do.

[B]

Oh, absolutely. I was working, like, eight days a week for years, just, like, trying to barely get by. And, like, the idea of saving up enough money to be able to, like, not just, like, you could, like, figure out, like, how to, like, crowdsource, like, the funds for surgery. But then what happens when you can't work for a month? What happens when you have to recovery or something goes wrong? Yeah.

[A]

Get something fixed or whatever. Yeah, I like that you said that, because I feel like a lot of people won't say that.

[B]

Well, I think it's just because it's not fair and it sucks. And it kind of sucks to hear, but it's also, like, as truthful as I can be about things. And, like, obviously you don't have to go on TV to have money to feel situated. But that was kind of the only path for me to do what I wanted to do, and it worked out. And I'm just a very lucky individual. And I'm sorry for those who aren't

[A]

as lucky, and I'm sorry for everybody out there who's not as lucky as me.

[B]

No. Cause it's not fair. Everybody should have the option and, like, the access to the care that I got.

[A]

Yes. And it is. I was talking to my trainer, lives in England. I met him out here. He moved to England. We do it over zoom. And it's so silly.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Okay, well. Okay. The reason why I still use him is because we're friends and he's nice to me, and I love that. I don't want a trainer who is mean and he's not, like, focused on me losing weight. He'll be like, like, if I can do more squats the next week, he's like, isn't that cool that you could do more squats?

[B]

And I'm always like, that's cool. And that's kind of the point.

[A]

Yeah. So that's why I really love him. But we were talking about healthcare and he was talking about all this stuff that's like included in their universal healthcare. And I'm like, God, it is so wild that health care here is tied to your job. Like that is so weird that it's like if you don't have a job, that means you don't deserve health care.

[B]

It's very the like American mindset though. Like that, that is the usa. Like, if you're not contributing to society, you don't have value. Like if you don't have like some sort of fiscal amount attached to you as a human being, you do not matter. Which is rough and sucks. And I don't think is the way we should be doing it. And in fact most countries don't do it that way because it sucks.

[A]

Yes. Like he was telling me all this shit that was covered and I was like, wait, what? And I don't wanna put all his business out there, but like a lot

[B]

of, oh, he's getting shit done. He's getting yanked, pulled, refreshed.

[A]

He looks so good every week.

[B]

And I'm like, that was covered. Oh my God, I love that. Just like I need a gender affirming. Kybella. Just.

[A]

I've never met Kybella. You've never?

[B]

I think so. It's one of the injectables. Because I couldn't remember Juvederm. Ah, I can't. I think Kybella might be the fat dissolving one. And then Juvederm is like the, the filler one. I don't know. I just trust the lady who puts the needles in my face and she does whatever she does.

[A]

And I'm like, do I want some Botox?

[B]

You really don't need any Botox. You have like no lines on your face. And you can make facial expressions, which is kind of ideal.

[A]

Can you make facial expressions?

[B]

Some.

[A]

Ah,

[B]

just a slight rays. Some. I also have my eyebrows like partially glued down, so this isn't the actual angle of my eyebrows. But we are a bit frozen at the moment. Just here though.

[A]

It looks great.

[B]

Thank you. It also works.

[A]

It's fantastic.

[B]

Thank you. It works well with makeup, you know, and that makes things work well for me because I have to wear makeup a lot.

[A]

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[B]

No, I don't think so. Cause like I wasn't really focusing on not being single when I became unsingled when I lost my single status and like I'd been single for 56 years and it just like wasn't something that I was pursuing and it just worked out. I do think there's a lot of things to love about being single. Yeah and I think honestly if I didn't love Blake so much and didn't love our life together, I would still be single. Cause I love being single single. But sometimes you'll like luck into a relationship where things just feel better and are the way that they're supposed to be with another person. But that's not the case for everybody. And that's not something that you should, like, wait for or build your life around expecting. I don't know. I feel like when you build into yourself, people get more interested and want to be with you.

[A]

I think that's actually very good advice.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because before I met the nice man in my life, I would get sad about being single. But I was actually really enjoying being single. And I was like, I have a nice life. I've got great friends, I have a career. I was like, you know, I only think I want somebody who's gonna add value to all that. Cause I already have a lot of good shit going. And then I met the nicest man, who is fine with a lot of. Like, he lets me just talk at night. Like while he's trying to fall asleep. He lets me just talk until he falls asleep. And. So cute. A lot people would not like that. But like. And then last night I was like, well, if you walk the dog, I won't talk while you go to sleep. And he said, deal. And then he said, don't make promises you can't keep. And then I was like, he knows me so well. And then we got in bed, I was like. I said I wouldn't talk. And then he went, actually, I might have trouble falling asleep if you don't talk to me.

[B]

Oh, you're like a noise machine for him. It's like when you need to, like, put the fan on in order to, like, kind of drown out everything.

[A]

I am. Hit it.

[B]

Tell me about your day.

[A]

I am. I'm a white noise machine. I have a question, please. Have you ever been on a date that you were like, mm, mm, this is bad.

[B]

Um, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. And it still ended with me sleeping with him because I don't have a lot of self respect. But the thing that, like, really just felt bad was like, we were like opening up. Like, one of our opening lines of conversation was like, credit score. And I'm like, I'm gonna get the fuck out of here. But instead, instead I got blasted and made him pay for everything. And then I slept with him.

[A]

I love. Well, was his credit score good?

[B]

It was, but I think that's boring. And I don't think that that's actually something that I care about, and I never talk to him again.

[A]

I get that. That is a wild thing to open with. What's your credit score?

[B]

I'm like, also, mine's garbage.

[A]

I don't even know my credit score.

[B]

I don't either. I don't know anymore. That's not my business.

[A]

No, it's not my business either. But I do know I had bad credit, and now I have good credit.

[B]

I had good credit, then it went really, really bad. And now I think it's fine because I don't get declined for things when I ask to open up accounts. But once again, none of my business.

[A]

That might be the opposite, because they're

[B]

like, it's a good bet.

[A]

When I had bad credit, they'd be like, do you want more money? Do you want more credit cards? Well, no.

[B]

It's, like, getting, like, financed stuff.

[A]

Oh, I see. Okay. Yes. That means you Now I'm, like, going

[B]

to, like, payday loans. I'm just like, they just want to give me so money. I don't get it, girl.

[A]

That's what I was doing. I got 30 grand in debt in one single year because nobody explained to me that if you only pay the minimum, you'll spend 100 years paying off $100. I was buying, so I had a hello Kitty credit card. I was like, meow, I'll buy you everything. And then once it got maxed out, they don't stop calling you. And nobody told me any of this.

[B]

There's only one way to learn. Really.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Through living it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or tv. Sometimes there's, like, skits on TV where they tell you stuff like that. But, like, I have to make my own mistakes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I am not somebody who is really good at taking advice. I have to find out for myself, even if it's exactly what you told me.

[A]

Yeah, same, same. I went to a restaurant with that nice man in my life, and he was like, oh, it's brand new. There's gonna be a line. And I was like, okay. And then we left the house. We get there, there's a line. And I went, I can't believe there's a line. He goes, that's what I told you? And I was like, yeah, okay. And then was grumpy. I was so mad. And then I was so grumpy. Then we got home, and I was like, hey, I'm sorry. I was grumpy about something that you

[B]

already told me about.

[A]

And then I discovered it, and then I didn't like it. And he was like, well, that's why I Told you. And I was like, well, okay.

[B]

It's like me reaping what I'm sowing. No. Yeah.

[A]

Can I talk about your tattoos?

[B]

I would love that.

[A]

I love them. Thank you. They're fun.

[B]

Thank you. I like. I like decorating, and I think we're just going to keep on going. Every time I do anything in la, everybody's like, you. You shouldn't get tattoos. And that makes me want more.

[A]

Yeah, I like them.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

This one is really pretty. It's like very, very, like, fine line and very detailed.

[B]

Yeah. Nick kind of snapped when he did this. So Nick did my upper arms and my hands. And he is a tattoo artist in Seattle, and he does the majority of my work these days. But I have just, like, kind of like a quilt patchwork of just, like, different artists that I'm friends with.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

And none of them mean anything to me, really. Mm.

[A]

So did Nick design these? And you were like, yeah, do it.

[B]

Mm. Essentially, I like, gave him, like. I like Nick's art. Nick is a great artist. I'm like, here's an idea. And he's like, all right. And then he, like, kind of doodled it up. I'm like, yeah, we can work with that.

[A]

I love that. They have no meaning. Mine are dumb, but they. They have meaning, I think.

[B]

What tattoos do you have?

[A]

I have a bunch on my butt that are all food. There's a chili pepper that says, muy caliente. Cause that was a joke from a while ago. There's a cupcake, a lollipop, and an ice cream cone. And it says, it's sweet, Just taste it. My butt. And then there's a hamburger and a hot dog, and it says, stick it in these buns. My butt. And then there's a lemon.

[B]

Meaning.

[A]

That's the meaning. Stick it right in there. And then there's a lemon that says, when life gives you lemons, suck a dick. And I just thought that was really funny. And then I had a manic episode and had little Fatty tattooed right here because I was like, if I ever become a rapper, that's gonna be my name.

[B]

My name.

[A]

And truly was in my car, thought of it, drove to a tattoo shop, and was like, will you tattoo little fatty to me?

[B]

Wait, I had, like, a fun DJ name. I didn't have a rapper name, but I had a fun DJ name the other night. I'm trying to think. I think it was like, DJ Lady Jaw. The girl at the gig had a really big fucking jaw.

[A]

It's really funny. DJ lady jaw. Because that got a big old jaw.

[B]

The funniest things are the things that like a mean 12 year old would say. Oh yeah, yeah, little fatty's crazy. I like that though.

[A]

I like.

[B]

I like that quite a bit. Little tranny. Oh, this is. I don't know if we can use it, but I do have.

[A]

I like how they do quotes and then put the person's name under so you can do that and then put J.K. rowling.

[B]

Do you know the Jackson 5 clip with Carol Burnett? And it's like Tito, I'm the swingin est Jackson. Michael's like I'm the skinniest Jackson. I like saw that kind of recently and every single day since. I like wake up. I'm the tranniest Jackson and I can't stop doing it.

[A]

So now that's really funny.

[B]

Thank you. You should get that tattoo too.

[A]

Right there. Little fatty.

[B]

DJ tranny accent.

[A]

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[B]

Oh, I would love to. I would. I would absolutely love to. So we have the Marvelous Ms. Gender coming up. It is my one woman show that I am writing, starring in and poorly acting and definitely not singing in. I'm gonna have everything in my storage unit that I've collected from over the years gonna be there. So I have a martini glass, a big one. I do. It's one that I fit in is really sickening. I have my coffin, I have a giant cage that says don't feed the tranimal. And essentially it is telling the story of my alter ego Misgender, who is a super villain trying to take over the world by turning everyone trans, which Is the conservatives right? It really is. What's happening.

[A]

Conservatives think that we're all doing. That's. I love that. I love, like, reclaiming that kind of.

[B]

Absolutely. Like, we are the villain and the problem. And you should do something about this before it gets out of hand. So we're gonna tour that and, like, yeah, it's gonna be, like, very, like, campy Batman romp. I'm feeling like I'm super inspired by Pee Wee's Playhouse and Elvira and their different verets into film. How do we make practical sets again? How do we have practical theater effects? I'm so tired of AI Slop. And I don't wanna see a show where it's just video screens. I wanna be able to reach out and feel and touch things. Yes. So we're really working on creating a super silly set that lives there.

[A]

Love that.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

I love that so much because I, too, am just like AI. I. I, like, recently had a conversation where, like, everybody was using AI in the conversation. And I was just like, oh, I don't use it. I don't have anything to use it for. And they were like, oh, yeah, well, you write jokes and stuff. And I was like, sure. But, like, you. You work at an off. Like, you.

[B]

Like, why would I want to outsource the thing that I caught tooth and nail to be able to do?

[A]

And then it's like when people are making, like, posters with AI and stuff. I'm like, but you're making a poster for your art. And you decided to not employ someone who also does art to promote your. Like, it just feels. Whatever. I just really enjoy that you're using, like, practical things and making a practical set. Because it. To me, it matters. When you watch, like, an older movie and shit's practical, you're like, that's cool.

[B]

It's sickening when you see, like, movie sets. What they used to be, like, if you watch, like, the old mgm, like. Like, you're like, they built that.

[A]

They built that.

[B]

Somebody made that on a giant parking

[A]

lot to a location.

[B]

So they gave Judy Garland enough speed to kill a giraffe. Caught her ass to, like. And then they built her a set

[A]

for her to lose her mind.

[B]

Exactly. The tap pants on. And it was sickening. Yes.

[A]

They did nothing wrong. Wait, this giant martini glass. I. I'm obsessed with, like, a champagne couple poop tub at, like, like, couples resorts or whatever. How big is this martini glass that you can get into?

[B]

It's huge. So a martini glass is usually kind of like a Flat situation. I, like, built it, like, with, like, a prop maker and it ended up being more of a goblet. So it is pretty large and in charge. She's lovely. I can fit my whole body in it. I balance on, like, the brim of her.

[A]

What's the weight limit?

[B]

I don't know. I. I think it's upwards of like 350. Like, she's a sturdy gal.

[A]

Okay. Are you gonna be in LA?

[B]

Yeah. When I wanna say it's like July 20th or something like that.

[A]

If I come, can I get in that?

[B]

Of course you can fucking get in there.

[A]

This is.

[B]

It's gonna be so fun.

[A]

This is the best.

[B]

Do you want me to change out the water? Cause I get in there first and usually, like, my foundation turns this lovely milky color. Okay.

[A]

No. If that's too much work, I will wear a bathing suit and I will get right into that. That beige water. I'll get in it.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Oh, my God. This is. I can't fucking wait, Bosco. This is a dream come true. I feel like a make a wish kid. I'm so excited.

[B]

I'm so excited. I'm excited that you're excited. I don't know. It's something that lived in my notepad for years. And when I tell people and they get excited about it, I'm like, okay, it is a good idea that I'm spending all this time and money and energy on.

[A]

It's a good idea. And also, I feel like people aren't giving shows anymore. Like, it's. They're not giving a show worth the price of a ticket. Do you know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yes. I feel like we. I don't know. I've always, like, studied at the altar of, like, Bendelacreme and, like, Viral Jean Roman. Like, that's how you put on, like, a one woman show. There's like some sort of loose narrative that you kind of utilize to cobble together all of your different talents and present them in a way that makes sense.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And that's what we're trying to do here. And also, touring right now is really hard. And selling tickets to shit sucks.

[A]

Yeah, it does suck.

[B]

Picked a really bad time to do this, but we are committed to it now.

[A]

I will say it is a hard time to sell tickets, but, like, word of mouth does work. And since, like, I don't know, to me, the show sounds really incredible. It feels like word of mouth will help you sell tickets. Like, I think people are gonna be like, it was an experience and it was beautiful and I liked it. I just. I just think you have such nice

[B]

things to say to me.

[A]

Well, I just think when someone. Cause you talk about performing and how the show came together with such care, and I appreciate that. Like, you were like, I don't know, I built this fucking martini glass to get into, like, I don't know, like, the Dita Von Teese of it all. Like, her shows are worth the price of admission, and I just think that should be amplified, and I think that should be, like, celebrated.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

You're welcome.

[B]

Thank you so much. I think people are missing razzle dazzle.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I think drag queens are really good at razzle dazzle. Yes. In fact, that's kind of the only thing we can do. So I. I don't know. I'm excited to have the opportunity to do something like this, and I'm excited to show people.

[A]

Ugh. I'm excited, too. I just watched a clip of Luscious Massacre talking to Bob and Monet going, the girls don't get into drag anymore

[B]

while they' not let her foot off of Bob's neck the entire. Did you see the other part of the interview where she's like, yeah, I was rooting for Kim Chi on her season. No, you like. And, like, at the time, like, yeah, but, like, you've really proven yourself as a winner since. And I was just like, luscious is

[A]

so funny to me.

[B]

She's so, so funny that we're not

[A]

giving the girls the razzle dazzle. You're a drag queen and you're sitting here as a boy, and it made me laugh so hard. But I was like. Like, I don't know if she's wrong.

[B]

She's not. Although I do have to say, I am trying to create certain things where it doesn't require me to be in drag, which is like, it is the podcast.

[A]

I get it.

[B]

Like, I don't know if you should have to dress up and do the full Geish every single time you want to do a podcast when you're doing a podcast. So I understand Bob in that moment, but Luscious, absolutely funny. Ate her up, up. It was great.

[A]

So funny.

[B]

So funny.

[A]

My favorite part was Bob was like, are you talking about me? Because Luscious was going on for a minute before Bob was like, like, is this me?

[B]

Is this play about us?

[A]

Bosco, thank you so much for being here. Of course.

[B]

This is a fucking delight.

[A]

Thoroughly enjoyed you again. Everything you did on All Stars was just delicious and delightful.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

You can Balance on a chair in a way that I don't understand.

[B]

I wouldn't recommend it, but I've gotten really good at it and can do it. Like, blackout on lawn furniture at this point. So that I love. Thank you.

[A]

I would love to see you go to a bar and they're like, here's some lawn furniture for you to do.

[B]

Oh. The reason why I know it is because it's been handed to me when I didn't like. Like, when I didn't like in explain exactly what I needed. They gave me, like, some wicker furniture. I'm like, all right, that's wild. Got splinters and.

[A]

Oh, no, that's okay. Diva. No, Diva.

[B]

No. Diva. Stop.

[A]

Do you even know? No.

[B]

No.

[A]

Well, we've come to the end. Here's a question.

[B]

Okay, it wasn't the end.

[A]

No, it wasn't. Wait, where can people buy tickets? That's why.

[B]

Oh, that's so. You're so right. You're so right. You should be selling my show, not me. Dragfans.com we're currently doing a threesome deal where you can buy two, get one free, so the whole polycule can come pandering. See, I know my crowd.

[A]

This is the thoughtfulness that you claim not to have, but you said the whole particle could come.

[B]

You got me.

[A]

That's so nice. Here's another question. Would you date me?

[B]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And we'd have a key. Although we'd be two Rockies just knowing the shit out of each other, so I don't know if it'd work out, but I would absolutely date you.

[A]

I truly do think we would just be screaming the whole time. Just having a little too much potato. A mashed potato. Well, if you like this episode of why won't you date me? Which I'm sure you did, you can like it, you could follow it, you can rate it 5 stars on Spotify and Apple podcasts. You could tell a friend, or you could recommend the show on Reddit because that actually helps the show out. Oh, yeah, People are nice on Reddit. It helps.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then if you write me something nasty, hitting on me to why won't you date me? Podcast gmail.com I'll read it. This person said, says Nicole, we are lip syncing to our lives to a Charlie XCX song. The beat drops and I do a perfect split right onto your face. I grind my on your nose while the judges watch in horror. But RuPaul screams. Because it's high art. I make you eat me out until I climax so hard my wig flies off into Michelle Visage's lap. Shantay. We both stay. Love the pod from Anonymous. Honestly, that was fun. I liked it. Goodbye. That was a Headgum Podcast. Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

[B]

Sterling K. Brown. And I'm Chris Sullivan.

[A]

And we host the podcast that Was

[B]

Us now on Headgum.

[A]

Each episode, we're gonna go into a deep dive from our show. This is us.

[B]

That's right. We're gonna go episode by episode.

[A]

We're also gonna pepper in episodes with

[B]

different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

[A]

Are we gonna cry?

[B]

Yes, a little bit.

[A]

Are we gonna laugh a lot?

[B]

A whole lot. That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to that Was Us on your favorite podcast app. Or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday. Hello, I'm Johnny Knoxville. And I'm Jeff Tremaine. Welcome to Jackass the Podcast, a new show coming to, coming to. That's what it is. Hello, I'm Johnny Knoxville.

[A]

And I'm Jeff Tremaine.

[B]

Welcome to Jackass the Podcast, a new show now on Headgum. Woohoo.

[A]

I've learned a Jackass movie has to

[B]

be really 90 minutes. Every minute over is a minute to. Apparently, there's only so much butthole you can take. We're going to take you behind the scenes of our entire history. All the best bits, all bad behavior and even worse decisions. All of it. Sometimes we don't make the right decisions, Jeff. I've noticed that every. Every so often with guests like Spike Jones. I think let's commit to Jackass the Podcast.

[A]

What was it going to be called?

[B]

The Jackass Podcast. Without you, the IQ drops significantly.

[A]

Steve O.

[B]

There's a strong chance that were it not for Jackass, that I would be in clown makeup. Right? This fucking Chris Pontius. That shot of your butt just cruising up. I'm like, yeah, I got that on tv. God bless Dave England. Yeah, when you come in and you're being really nice, I'm like, damn it,

[A]

something bad's gonna happen to me.

[B]

Wee Man Jeff grabbed me from the back of the head and threw a punch. The whole bar just stopped and wanted to kill me, like. And some of the crew that's been with us from the beginning.

[A]

I had to share a room with this guy.

[B]

I left a nice surprise in the toilet for him every time. Apparently, he hates to flush. Subscribe to Jackass the Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Pocket Cast, or wherever the hell you get podcasts. Our new episodes drop on June 18th. Look out for new episodes in your feed Every Thursday, watch video episodes on YouTube and follow along with us on on Instagram and TikTok @JackassThePodcast. What were we just talking about? Probably buttholes. Insurance isn't one size fits all. That's why customers have enjoyed Progressives name your price tool for years. Now, with the name your price tool, you tell them what you want to pay, and they'll show you options that fit your budget budget. So whether you're picking out your first policy or just looking for something that works better for you and your family, they make it easy to see your options. Visit progressive.

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