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Nicole Byer
Hey, if you want to watch this episode and see our cute little costumes, head on over to YouTube where this episode is available for your eyeballs. The link is in that description, so use your eyeballs to read it and then click.
Mano
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Nicole Byer
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Mano
Can you do a slutty Elmo voice?
Nicole Byer
Wait, what does Elmo sound like?
Mano
I think you did it.
Nicole Byer
Wait.
Guest or Listener Caller
Elmo. Elmo wants dick.
Nicole Byer
That's bad. Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me?
Guest or Listener Caller
Please tell me why.
Nicole Byer
Baby.
Guest or Listener Caller
Welcome to Boo. Why won't you scare me?
Mano
What a weird pun.
Nicole Byer
Boo.
Guest or Listener Caller
This is a spooky episode of why won't you date me?
Nicole Byer
It's crazy.
Mano
Why won't you scare me implies that you've just gone all your life.
Nicole Byer
Why won't you scare me?
Mano
Trying to get to.
Nicole Byer
That's all I want. I just want to be skir. Anyway, I'm not gonna do My normal intro. My guest today is a comedian.
Mano
You're not gonna do the cum thing, okay. Do the cum thing.
Nicole Byer
Okay. This has been a long running podcast where me, Nicole Byer, has been trying to figure out why I was so single. Even though you could come on my toe and call it a corn. My guest today, I think that my. That might be the grossest one I've ever done. Also, I'm not sick. I've been traveling and the seasons change.
Mano
That's a corn. Pop the corn and feed the children.
Nicole Byer
Pop the corn and feed the children. Who hated that? Miss Fame. Miss Fame. Anyway.
Mano
Disgusting.
Nicole Byer
My guest today is not disgusting. My guest today is a comedian who hosts the podcast We Love Trash, and the one and only ruin Paul's Drag Race recap podcast called Drag Her. I can't believe so many years have gone by and nobody else has come up with a recap podcast.
Mano
I think it says a lot about where we are in the culture, right? Like people are scared. I think people are terrified. And we did. I did inherit, you know, we inherited that podcast from you, Game of Thrones style. We killed you and we took it.
Nicole Byer
I passed right away. My guest also puts on the show Bad Drag Race here in Los Angeles, California, A show that I sometimes co host.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
A show that I go, yes, yes, I'm in town. And then two days before the show I go, I am absolutely not in town.
Mano
I'm in St. Louis.
Nicole Byer
Oh, it is wild how poorly I plan, how poorly I dedicate my time. Anyway, the finale is coming up November 14th, 15th. That's my bad. November 15th, which I am in town for. And I am coming. And maybe I'll wear this beautiful costume again. My guest today is a wonderful, wonderful diva who I once co hosted a diversity showcase with. And I said, I don't know, diva, because you're some kind of Latina. And my friend who I had known for at least five years at that time said, I'm not Latina. And I said, what? This is in front of me, live audience. I said, then what are you? My friend said, Greek. And I said, that makes sense. It's mono agapian.
Mano
It's my favorite intro I've ever had happen to me. Oh, it's fun to introduce someone you've known for like 88 years.
Nicole Byer
For so long. I've known you for so long and.
Mano
We'Ve done so many stupid things together.
Nicole Byer
My favorite is walking into this recording, you dressed as Chucky, a child's toy. Yeah, Slutty child.
Mano
Slutty child's. Toy.
Nicole Byer
And then I am also a slutty. Okay, this is. Mine is even grosser because my grandpa's government name is Elmo.
Mano
Really?
Nicole Byer
So I decided to dress up as a slutty Elmo.
Mano
That's funny. But, you know, Elmo has always been trying to get tickled since the 90s. He has, he has. But I think it reveals a lot about us because we are childlike.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
Yet also nasty. Nasty.
Nicole Byer
There's so much lipstick on your teeth.
Mano
I knew it. I told you.
Nicole Byer
But Mano, the way you put it on was crazy. Was so nuts. Also.
Mano
It is.
Nicole Byer
I think it's Maybelline. It's like long lasting.
Mano
It's Maybelline.
Nicole Byer
So it's real. It's. It's not gonna move. It's just on your teeth.
Mano
It's just there. I don't care.
Nicole Byer
It could be blood.
Mano
It's.
Nicole Byer
Oh, wait, smile.
Mano
I knew. It's all over those bicuspids. It's all over bicuspids.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, that was a good dental term.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
So normally you put on makeup like this. You go, doop, doop. You follow the line of your lips. You were putting it on like this.
Mano
But you were watching me, which made me nervous. You were like, you were holding the camera as my mirror. And so it was like, imagine seeing a mirror, but then behind the mirror is just someone going, oh. And so, like, I just couldn't. I couldn't be good.
Nicole Byer
I'm sorry. I'm sorry for appearing behind the phone mirror yesterday. I went to go pick up my dog at John Milhiser's house. My old roommate.
Mano
Former roommate, yes.
Nicole Byer
John Millheiser. He was teaching full on teaching a class on zoom. And I don't know why. I was like, can I have some of your enchiladas on the stove? And he was like. I was like, please can I have enchiladas? And I didn't realize it wasn't on mute. And then he was like, well, it's Nicole Byer who's asking me for enchiladas.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
And then turned the computer, and I was like.
Mano
I've. I've been naked in the background of Gene's work. Zoom. It was bad.
Nicole Byer
Wait, really?
Mano
It was like 2021. And he was back when we were.
Nicole Byer
Figuring out the zoom.
Mano
We were still pretty confused. And I was like, oh, I can go to this closet without being seen. No, fully, Very naked on his work zoom at his big tech, big boy job.
Nicole Byer
That's very funny. Gina's your husband. For the listeners yes. And viewers who. Junior.
Mano
That's right.
Nicole Byer
So did he have to tell you or did you know that you were here?
Mano
Oh, he was like. Because he called me Mo. He was like, Mo. Like. And I was like, oh. And I was like. And then they, like, laughed a little, but it was like. It was pretty bad. It was pretty. I mean, yeah, it was pretty bad.
Nicole Byer
Have you met these people in person who have seen you naked?
Mano
Yes. Yes.
Nicole Byer
That's really funny.
Mano
I will say it's liberating. It's like, you've already seen.
Nicole Byer
You've already seen my body.
Mano
Whatever.
Nicole Byer
Do you want to be my friend?
Mano
I have gone to this Apple Christmas party a couple times.
Nicole Byer
Have you gotten, like, drunk? Drunk and taking your clothes off and be like, let's recreate the zoom.
Mano
It is interesting to see, like, nerds try to let loose, because they either can't let loose or they let loose way too hard. Do you know what I mean? They're either like, no, I can't have fun, or they're like, let's fucking do coke.
Nicole Byer
Well, I feel like that's like, if you have, like, a wrap party, the people in the office are the wildest people, but you're like, oh, my God, we can't keep you hostage in office like this anymore. It's done bad for your brain.
Mano
It's made your brain cooked. It's made you crazy. Nicole.
Nicole Byer
Mana.
Mano
I can't believe we're here again.
Nicole Byer
Oh, Happy Halloween.
Guest or Listener Caller
Happy Halloween.
Mano
Which we mean bad Halloween, because being scared is good on Halloween. So, like, being scared is good. Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Have you been to the Haunted Hayride?
Mano
Yeah, it's one of the worst in town. Yeah, I said it. I have. It's like, terribly run. It's like run by drunk children. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. But I've. But the atmosphere is amazing.
Nicole Byer
I love it.
Mano
Yeah, the atmosphere is amazing.
Nicole Byer
But I've also never been to another scary thing in la.
Mano
Why not?
Nicole Byer
I don't know. Well, I was supposed to go to Delusion.
Mano
Not Scary Farm.
Nicole Byer
Not Scary Farm.
Mano
You're supposed to come with us.
Nicole Byer
Then I fucked up my scheduling because I'm very good at that. Very good at committing and then going, oh, I have double or triple myself. Virgo.
Mano
You try to make too many people happy.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, me and my therapist have talked about that.
Mano
Well, I get it. I'm the same. Like, I do the same thing and I'm like, wow, I have to stop that. I will be like, I literally just texted someone today. I'm sure. You've seen me, heard me text this, where I'm like, oh, I have a funeral that day, but maybe we'll play.
Nicole Byer
It by ear and we'll see if I can actually make it up to the funeral. Yes.
Mano
I have gotten people like, you have a funeral.
Nicole Byer
Just go to that funeral.
Mano
You can't come. You can't come.
Nicole Byer
I can't say you can't come. You can't come.
Mano
Trust the Duchess. You can't come.
Nicole Byer
I'm dying. Mono. Okay.
Mano
What were you saying?
Nicole Byer
I. I don't know, but I really love that we dressed up and I. I really love. Where are your hip pads from?
Mano
I think Planet Pepper. That's a pretty popular drag queen company. I need to get better hose to, like.
Nicole Byer
No, this is iconic and perfect. I don't want you to change one thing about this.
Mano
I was hosting. When you host a show called Bad Drag Race, it's so liberating.
Nicole Byer
It really is, because you don't have to look or be good.
Mano
Hot take. I think we've already seen the best drag the world has to offer. And I think that's why, like, gorgeous drag isn't as interesting. That's why, like, we. I recently interviewed Corey King, and you.
Nicole Byer
Know what that is. I've been trying to get Cory King on this show.
Mano
I'm sure she would love to.
Nicole Byer
I love Cory King.
Mano
She's amazing and so funny.
Nicole Byer
She is so fucking funny.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
And I don't think her drag is bad, per se. I think it's interesting.
Mano
But she's doing, like, weird.
Nicole Byer
She's very fucking weird shit.
Mano
Because it's like, we've already. Plastic Tara already exists.
Nicole Byer
She already exists.
Mano
What are we going to do?
Nicole Byer
What are we going to. Although Aja keeps turning out some really pretty looks, she turned out this pretty, like, lavender look that I was like, oh, my God.
Mano
I just kind of done, like. Aja does, like, weird beauty, too, though.
Nicole Byer
She does. And I do like when she cosplays like a Pokemon.
Mano
Yes. Yes, she did. A couple times. What?
Nicole Byer
I cannot.
Mano
Oh, new Pokemon game. What?
Nicole Byer
No, no, shit. I was.
Mano
I.
Nicole Byer
Her name escapes me right now, but can you look it up so I don't seem like an asshole? I met the voice of Ash Ketchum.
Mano
Whoa.
Nicole Byer
And it was really cool. She was hanging out with my friend Harvey Gyan, and I was like, can you. I'm sorry, do the voice? And she was like, yep, that's what people always ask. And then she said she sounded just like Ash Ketchum. And she said, I choose you. Nicole and I almost died. Your teeth are frying me. It is truly so funny. It's Sarah Nattocheni. Yes. Her name is Sarah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Okay. She is so nice and so wonderful and I couldn't believe it.
Mano
Do you know there's a new Sonic racing game out?
Nicole Byer
No.
Mano
There's a new Sonic racing game out.
Nicole Byer
What? Gaming system. It's on switch.
Mano
You have a switch?
Nicole Byer
I have a switch. I never play it.
Mano
I know.
Nicole Byer
I don't know how to cast it to my tv.
Mano
How about I just come over with my switch and then we'll play the Sonic racing game. That'll be fun.
Nicole Byer
Okay. I love it.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
I'm a little self conscious with my arms out like this.
Mano
You look great.
Nicole Byer
Well, I, like went. I moved my arms and I was like, oh, there they go.
Mano
Yeah. But yeah, welcome to the club. Welcome to the party. You know, I've lived this life.
Nicole Byer
Yes, Yes, I do have. I've got some loose skin, but sometimes I really like it because I feel like it's like some people just wave, but I'm giving you a double wave.
Mano
You have the added benefit of gorgeous skin, too. Like your skin is so. You've. You scare people when they touch your soft skin.
Nicole Byer
They're like, that's what you feel like. It's so wild how soft I am. And if you want, you could take it.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
I would like to describe it to the listeners.
Mano
Like lanolin. No, it really is. I don't know. It's really. I don't think I've touched many people's skin who's like this. It's warm, it's supple, but it's not oily.
Nicole Byer
No, it's just.
Mano
It's a baby's bottom.
Nicole Byer
It really is. I have booty. I have booty arms.
Mano
You have booty arms. Why won't you scare her? Someone please scare my friend Nicole.
Nicole Byer
Okay, I would like to talk about some dating talking points because this is a dating podcast.
Mano
So I thought it was a staring. Okay. Oh, ghosting.
Nicole Byer
Ghosting.
Mano
That works on two levels.
Nicole Byer
Spooky.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
Have you ever been visited by a ghost? And have you ever ghosted somebody?
Mano
Yes to both.
Nicole Byer
And you can take that however you want.
Mano
I've seen a ghost in Greece and here's the quick version of that story.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
Mano
Okay. I was at my brother. We have to go to this island because we love Greece.
Nicole Byer
I love Greece.
Mano
And I need to take you this island.
Nicole Byer
And do you remember the phrase that I was saying that people were so impressed by?
Mano
Were you saying thank you. Were you saying. Or were you saying like, para calo, which means, like, you're welcome?
Nicole Byer
No. Every time people were like, do you like Greece? I would say something and they would go, yes. Wait, was it just bravo?
Mano
Oh, it was bravo. Yeah, Bravo. Bravo.
Nicole Byer
Anytime you say, what is the phrase I was saying? And it was just a word.
Mano
Bravo.
Nicole Byer
Bravo. Wow.
Mano
Okay. Okay.
Nicole Byer
Sorry, Cube. Going with your story.
Mano
Okay. I was in this very old, old, old home in Greece, like hundreds of years old. It was my. My brother in law's family. They owned it. We stayed there. We. When we're staying there, we're like kicking off the dust. Like, we're literally like taking tarps off of furniture that had been there for years.
Nicole Byer
Like My Big Fat Greek Wedding three where they stay in that house also. That's the only one of those movies I've ever seen.
Mano
I can't believe that's the only one. We got you to love seeing a sequel.
Nicole Byer
I watched Venom 3 before Venom 1 and 2.
Mano
They made three venoms.
Nicole Byer
Yes. And then I cried during the first one. It's about friendship.
Mano
You know, I haven't seen Kraven yet. I know that's sad for you.
Nicole Byer
I watched it again last night.
Mano
And you like. Okay. We love Madame Web. We love Madame Web.
Nicole Byer
I love Madame Web. I might rent out a movie theater and host just like me and another comedian maybe you.
Mano
Let's do it.
Nicole Byer
I think it would be fun if you did it with me. Let's do it. Where we just, like, hosted like Madame Web and Craven back to back.
Mano
Let's do it.
Nicole Byer
And just like talked over it.
Mano
Yeah, we have to talk the whole time because that's the only way to watch movies.
Nicole Byer
Maybe get like five people in the audience, microphones. And they can just pass the microphone around.
Mano
People just get to say funny things.
Nicole Byer
Utter chaos.
Mano
I really like that.
Nicole Byer
Right? Isn't that fun?
Mano
I really like that. I love.
Nicole Byer
Okay, I have interrupted this story. I don't care.
Mano
This is how we talk, though. So, okay, I'm in Greece. Whatever. I'm staying in this very old house. I'm trying to go to sleep. I'm getting a bad feeling. My. I'm getting a weird feeling from this place because there's a lot of old goat butchering equipment.
Nicole Byer
Oh, no.
Mano
In this house. Because this house is so old that there's old equipment. And this is just like what his family used to do back in the day. But it is dilapidated. I go to sleep and I think I'm asleep. I have a sleep paralysis. Moment. And this is a Greek house with no doors. So a door to the hallway is just an open doorway. And I see smoke begin to gather and begin to form a person. And this person figure their hands drag all the way down to the ground.
Nicole Byer
No.
Mano
And I'm trying to like, I'm like, am I asleep? Am I sleep paralysis assist? And I'm like, I need to move. What's happening? They're not moving. But eventually I'm able to move over and I'm facing the wall. And I remember I had to pee so bad. But I was like, I am not moving until the sunlight is pouring into my eyes. I'm not moving again. I wake up in the morning. The man who grew up in this house, my brother in law, is like, how'd you sleep?
Nicole Byer
I was like, eh, not good.
Mano
I had dreams, nightmares or whatever. And he's like, hmm, really? He's immediately interested. And I was like, yeah, I just had dreams about a thing or a creature. Turns out I was sleeping in his old bedroom.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
Mano
He goes to a cabinet that's in the room, opens it, opens an old book, shows me a drawing he drew as a child with a black figure with hands to the ground. And he said, did you see him?
Nicole Byer
I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like that. You started the story with, we gotta go there.
Mano
It's so beautiful. The beaches are stunning. The beaches.
Nicole Byer
Stunning babes.
Mano
Stunning.
Nicole Byer
Stunning babes. That's wild.
Mano
I know.
Nicole Byer
But we won't stay at the house. No, I kind of want to. And I kind of want to stay in that room. And I kind of want to know what he's about. Here's the thing. Because I have had spooky ooks in my room, I don't do anything. I did what you did. You're like, I'm just going to stay in this bed. I'm not moving. I'm not getting up so you could get me faster. No, you have to come to me. And then I'll be like, what do you want?
Mano
What do you want?
Nicole Byer
You know what?
Mano
I just remembered we went to a restaurant recently and we ordered. You made us order all the desserts, but you didn't want to. Like, we didn't really want to pay for all of them. So then you were kind of like, hey, we want. Can you just bring us. Can you just bring me a spoonful of this one? We don't like really want it. But then she was like, that's not really possible. So she just Brought that?
Nicole Byer
Yep.
Mano
But we didn't pay for it.
Nicole Byer
Mono. I'm unhinged at a restaurant.
Mano
I love it.
Nicole Byer
I went to one. Where was I? I was in St. Louis. Yes. Over the weekend, and we went to a Capital Grill, which is like, just a steakhouse chain. And they had this apple tart, and it was so good. And I said, I don't want your almond ice cream. Can I have vanilla? And he said, you got it. And then we finished the ice cream.
Mano
And I was like, ice cream?
Nicole Byer
I said, excuse me, I need another scoop of ice cream. He said, what? And I said, this isn't done and needs more ice cream. I need another scoop of ice cream. And he was like, okay. And he went and got me another scoop of ice cream. That's great. I will always ask for what I need.
Mano
I know I'm learning that from you. I was at dinner recently with the husband, and I was like, this meal needs bread. And they didn't have bread on the menu, but I was like, do y' all have bread back there? And they're like, let me check. And they did.
Nicole Byer
Yes. And then you got what you needed.
Mano
The meal needed bread. It was crazy. That wasn't on the menu.
Nicole Byer
So I've been on a Wolfgang Puck kick. I love Wolfgang Puck.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Because you have to be excellent to be in the supermarkets. He's in Gilson's.
Mano
I'm familiar with his skillson. Every time I pick up one of his Gelson's items, I'm not reminded of excellence. I will say that.
Nicole Byer
Here's the thing.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
The brand, it gets a little diluted as it gets to the masses.
Mano
That's what happens.
Nicole Byer
But Bogo. Very good. Talked about it on this podcast. Talked about it on many podcasts. So then I was like, I'm gonna go to Cut, which is a steakhouse. And then it was a weird vibe. I don't wanna shit on it, but, like, the vibes are weird. They set us at this, like, long table where it was me and my friend who was visiting, and then that nice man who's in my life. So it felt like I was, like, interviewing them, because I was on one side of this long, weird wood table, and they sat us right by the entrance to the kitchen. And it wasn't like, in a fun hootie way where you're like, ooh, I can see what they're making. It was like, oh, no. I can see that one has made a mistake, and he's mad about it and he's yelling at somebody, and Like, I was like, this is not the vibe I want. So then we had ordered drinks, and then I was like, we're actually going to go.
Mano
And.
Nicole Byer
And my. The nice man in my life was like, what? And I was like, I already. I made a reservation at Spago. We're going to go to Spago. And he was like, when's the reservation? I was like, 15 minutes. We got to. We got to close out. We got to leave. So then as we're leaving, I paid the bill, and my credit card has my name on it. And then this server didn't look at me the whole time and then looked at my friend who was visiting Nick and handed it to Nick and goes, Here you go, Mr. Buyer. And I was like, what? Why would. Huh? There's. And my. The name. My. My corporate name is also on the card, and that also has a woman's name on it. There are two women's names on that card. And that man was like, I'm gonna talk to the man.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
And that's. I was so. Yeah, I don't. I didn't, like, cut. Cut had a bad vibe. The Wolfgang is curating the vibes at Spago.
Guest or Listener Caller
Can we talk?
Mano
Speaking of scary movies, why does the nice man in my life sound like a scary movie?
Nicole Byer
And that's what I call him.
Mano
I know, it's nice.
Nicole Byer
I don't want to call my boyfriend. I'm, like, 62 years old. Like, that's weird. Like, my boyfriend.
Mano
I think it's okay.
Nicole Byer
And I don't want to call him my partner, because I'm like, yeah, what are we, Bonnie and Clyde and we're going to, like, rob you? I mean, maybe, maybe. But, like, it hasn't happened yet.
Mano
I could see you doing it together.
Nicole Byer
But honestly, he wouldn't. And it's really. That kind of depresses me.
Mano
Right?
Nicole Byer
If I'm doing crimes, I'm doing them on my own. Everyone in my life, I'm doing crimes on my own. I was stealing from Walmart, and I said to my sister, I'mma steal this. And she started freaking out. And I was like, shut up. Don't call attention to this.
Mano
There's still time. I've been teaching Jean to steal. I love that we recently submitted to whatever. You get, like, a discount on furniture if you pretend to be an interior designer.
Nicole Byer
Oh, yes.
Mano
And we were gaming the system, and I tricked him into being a liar and gaming the system and pretending to be a designer so that you get a discount on everything.
Nicole Byer
And did this work? Did you get A discount. Yes, this. Okay, here's a gag.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
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Mano
Can you do a slutty Elmo voice?
Nicole Byer
Wait, what does Elmo sound like?
Mano
I think you did it.
Nicole Byer
Wait.
Guest or Listener Caller
Elmo? Elmo White's dick.
Nicole Byer
That's bad. That might not be okay.
Mano
Can we do that? Is that okay? I thought that was really good.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, I thought it was bad to be like Elmo. This children's character wants dick.
Mano
I think we know you're not Elmo. Like, like, I feel like you're embodying something that isn't Elmo.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, this is okay. This isn't true Elmo. This is fashion Nova Elmo.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Yeah, unfortunately, this is fast fashion.
Mano
Yeah, mine too. This might shock you, but mine too.
Nicole Byer
I don't know. I thought that looked like couture.
Mano
Thank you.
Nicole Byer
Thank you.
Mano
Literally, the second I opened it, this button just flew off.
Nicole Byer
I'm dying. Nothing is made with quality. It's wild. I'll go thrifting. And I'm like, everything in here is from, like, Shein. And like, yes. And Temu Thrift store shouldn't be allowed.
Mano
To do that because now they'll do that. We're like, oh, I like this. And you're like, wait, this isn't Thrift.
Nicole Byer
This isn't thrift. This is. This was from yesterday's fucking haul that somebody did.
Mano
But it just, like, looks thrift ish or, like, retro ish. Yes. You were asking me a question. Keep going. This is your podcast.
Nicole Byer
Have you ever done a love spell, a manifestation or a moon ritual for romance?
Mano
Oh, my God. I will say this. When I was out there looking for love, no one's spells hit less hard. Like, no one's spells had a worse hit rate than mine. I was out there being like, I am obsessed with you, please kiss me. And so often. No. No, absolutely not.
Nicole Byer
No, thank you, diva. I don't want it.
Mano
I. And.
Nicole Byer
And.
Mano
And I think we might have this unfortunate thing in common, like when we put ourself out there emotionally.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Mano
And so, like, I know for a fact we've both been with. People are being like, I am ready to be married. Like, I'm ready to give you everything. And you're. And they're like, I met you five minutes ago, mano.
Nicole Byer
I dated someone for close to two years. It was like a situationship where I was like, I love you and, like, I wanna be with you. And this person wouldn't even say they were my boyfriend. And I was like, but I'm ready to give it all to you.
Guest or Listener Caller
I give my all to have just one night with you. I give.
Nicole Byer
I was Mariah Carey trying to give my all. And he was Tommy Mottola being like, I don't want to give you anything.
Mano
Right. Which that song is apparently about Jeter, I think.
Nicole Byer
Oh, okay. So he was Derek Jeter who didn't want to give me anything.
Mano
Yes. Or maybe it is. Whatever.
Nicole Byer
I don't know.
Mano
Whatever. Okay. The point is, yes, I have been there. I did that shit in college. There's a man on the latest season of Love is Blind who the woman is like, I'm leaving you. And he's like, yes, we're gonna figure it out. She's like, no, no, it's done. I'm not attracted to you. And she's like, okay, okay, so we won't go to Baja. We won't go to the beach. But when we're home, we will keep talking. Like, if you're watching, you know what I'm talking about, this man just could. And that was me. I saw him.
Nicole Byer
Did they break up?
Mano
I think I'm in the middle of the episode.
Nicole Byer
I'm dying.
Mano
I'm in the middle of the episode.
Nicole Byer
There's, like, furries flying into my throat.
Mano
Oh, it's the cheap Fur. It's the cheap fur flying around the workroom.
Nicole Byer
It's the chicken feathers.
Mano
It's the chicken.
Nicole Byer
These aren't chicken feathers. I don't know what these are.
Mano
That, I'm sorry to say, is a skin dally cat. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. It's just forever chemical, plastic.
Nicole Byer
It's disgusting. Yeah.
Mano
Okay, so what did we learn from this? So we're both really interesting. Cause we have that same illness, but we found nice men.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
What do you. What have you feel like you've learned now that you're with the nice man in your life?
Nicole Byer
I have learned you literally cannot. And I keep saying this. You can't say the wrong thing to the right person. Because I say insane things to this man. And he goes, are you hungry or something? And nine times out of 10, I'm usually pretty hungry.
Mano
Good.
Nicole Byer
Or like, did you not sleep good last night? Like, he'll ask questions when I'm being crazy. And, like, nice questions. Not like, are you on your rag? Or whatever. But it's like, that might be it too.
Mano
That could be.
Nicole Byer
Sometimes I'm on my period, and I. I truly act like a psychopath.
Mano
Sure.
Nicole Byer
But you're a nice man.
Mano
I'm a nice man.
Nicole Byer
What?
Mano
I'm a nice man.
Nicole Byer
No, I said you're a nice man.
Mano
Oh, my nice man. I heard you're a nice man. My nice man.
Nicole Byer
Yes, you're a nice man. I'm a nice man. No, does your nice man, like. Does he do things to, like, reassure you that he, like, loves you and whatnot?
Mano
And I ask for it. So I think, like, that's what I've gotten better at is just, like, asking for being like, I'm really sad. I need to scream at, like, you about a work thing. Or I'm just sad I need to, like, lay on top of you and cry. And he's always like, okay. So, like, I think just, like, ask. And hopefully if it. If again, if it's the right person.
Nicole Byer
Yes. They'll be, like, accommodating. Or if it's the right person, they might have a little boundary to be like, yes, but only for tonight. Or, like, only for 15 minutes. That's all I can handle. Or whatever.
Mano
And nice man Gene does that. He's like, yes, happy to do that.
Nicole Byer
And.
Mano
And I have to do this thing or, okay, it's too much touching. Cause I like touching.
Nicole Byer
I also like touching. There was a phase where I would hang on to him like a. Like a sloth on a tree. And I Would, like, send him pictures of a sloth on a tree and be like, I want to do this to you tonight. And then it got to a point where he was like, hey, so, you know when you say out loud, this must be annoying. He was like, I think you're reading the vibe, and maybe. Maybe we don't hang onto me so tightly. And I was like, yeah, yes, I. I understand. I can sloth you for a couple of minutes, and then I have to un. Sloth you.
Mano
Yeah. Can I say, as your friend, it's nice. It's so nice to see you in a nice thing.
Nicole Byer
Ah, thank you.
Mano
It's really nice.
Nicole Byer
It's really funny. All of my friends have said that. They're like, it's really nice that somebody loves you.
Mano
Well, you're so deserving. And it's that weird thing I remember. Obviously, we've both been single before. It's hard. Again, it makes sense when I say it, I'm like, you're the most deserving person to be loved.
Nicole Byer
Thank you.
Mano
But when you're not receiving that love from a person, it's like, but it's not happening.
Nicole Byer
Yes. And it's very easy to get stuck in, like, well, I guess that means I'm fucking trash. I'm a nasty little garbage bitch.
Mano
Yeah. Okay. If love is. That's my other thing about. Love is blind. They need to prove the concept. They keep putting fairly attractive people.
Nicole Byer
That's what I keep saying. I'm like, give me some of the ugliest. Like, there's this man who was on YouTube, and he posted this YouTube video about being an ugly person. And he was like, this is what it's like with me being ugly. This, that, and the other. And then a woman messaged him, was like, I actually don't think you're ugly. And then they met and they got married, and they're in love.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
And I'm like, yeah, let's put out some uggos because, you know, somebody's attractive to somebody. Yes. But, like, let's mix it up.
Mano
Let's mix it up.
Nicole Byer
Let's put Brad Pitt in a. In a fucking the Trix Rabbit together. I don't know. I didn't want to say somebody.
Mano
You did the right choice. I. Okay. Now that you're in a RuPaul situation where you could talk to your former self. Ooh. What would you say to former Nicole when she was like, I'm a dumpster little bitch, but now you know you're not a dumpster little bitch.
Nicole Byer
I would Say beep, beep. Back it up. Back the dumpster up. You're not a dumpster and you're not a bitch. And you gotta start talking nice to yourself.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Because you're gonna be with you for a very long time.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
You might be in a relationship that's really great and it might end up.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
But like, you gotta like you.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
So when you are in this relationship, you know how to advocate for yourself because you like you. So you're not going to let a person from the outside treat you poorly because you treat yourself nice.
Mano
That's really nice. Really nice.
Nicole Byer
Mano. What would you say to single little.
Mano
Sad Greek mano, Sad. So desperate. Trying to fudge everyone who doesn't want to fuck me? Um, I would say you are beautiful. You. And think about all the people who choose you.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
Look at your life and look at all the people who are choosing you and loving you for non physical and physical things. But I mean, let's really think about it at the end of the day when you're like, I'm lonely. Take a step back and be like, but how many people in your life choose you?
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
And like that. I think we all. We lose sight of that.
Nicole Byer
I think we do too. Because I have so many near and dear friends and I feel really blessed about that. Just to like, make it really corny. Yeah. I like it because some people don't have a lot of friends, but I think I have like a lot of, like really close people in my life that I could call for anything.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Be like, I need this. Can will you help? Like, I just. I feel so blessed about that.
Mano
I do too.
Nicole Byer
Do you want to know what I'm going to do for my birthday next year?
Mano
What? Because you were very low key this year.
Nicole Byer
I was. I truly didn't feel like. I don't know why. I was like in a mood where I was like, I don't want to like, focus on me.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
It's my 70th birthday next year. She is turning the big seven zero. I'm going to have a funeral because I saw a post where someone was like, we should be saying shit that we say at funerals about people to them.
Mano
That part. These people don't get to hear it.
Nicole Byer
No. So I think I'm gonna rent a casket.
Mano
Okay.
Nicole Byer
And sit in a casket.
Mano
Okay.
Nicole Byer
And then I'm gonna have like a sign up sheet where I want people to sign up to say really nice things about me. And I want everyone to wear my favorite colors, purple and leopard. Print dress to impress. Purple and leopard print.
Mano
You got it. I'm in.
Nicole Byer
Say nice things. I'm gonna have it catered by Gus's. It's like old school black funeral, so there's gonna.
Mano
Oh, Gus's Chicken.
Nicole Byer
Gus's. Gus's Fried Chicken.
Mano
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole Byer
But I want a black people repass after.
Mano
Yeah, yeah.
Nicole Byer
And I want some praise dancers and I want some singers, and then we could get drunk after.
Mano
Great.
Nicole Byer
But I want everyone to say something nice about me.
Mano
Can we lower you into your pool?
Nicole Byer
Yeah. Imagine they like, close it up, lower me in, and then I actually die. And then they're like, oh, shit, now we got to redo this with her.
Mano
Actually, dad, do it again. I already said the thing.
Nicole Byer
I already said the nice things. I don't want to say the nice thing.
Mano
What? My favorite thing is when someone dies and they suck and you have to get up there and lie. I've been there.
Nicole Byer
Have you?
Mano
I'm gonna out someone. I'm sorry. May your memory be eternal. My grandmother wasn't the nicest lady.
Nicole Byer
Uh huh.
Mano
She used to mock me for playing video games. And one time she broke my Game boy because she was scared of technology and she thought it was Satan, so I wasn't.
Nicole Byer
And you opted to speak at her funeral.
Mano
I. Yeah, I. You know what it was? It was a casual thing where it was like the family hanging out in a circle, just kind of being like, oh, memories of her. And then I remember being like, okay, I guess we're all lying. I guess we're all just, like, making up stories about how she was cool and chill.
Nicole Byer
That's funny. Someone in my family died, and everyone was saying all these nice things, like, oh, she loved adventure. And I was like, she did.
Mano
She did.
Nicole Byer
She was so nice. She did that. I was like, she was nice.
Mano
She was okay. She used to scream it children for laughing. She hated children's laughter. That's true.
Nicole Byer
Mm. I get that. You ever be on a plane and be like, what's so funny?
Mano
Okay. I've seen you scream at a child on a plane.
Nicole Byer
Okay, to be fair, that child was wreaking havoc. That child was standing on the seat looking back, and its parents were doing nothing. So I was like. And then it kept looking at me. Cause it got scared.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
And then I tried to translate your child's a demon in several different languages.
Mano
Yes, you. I was like, it's Russian or Ukrainian. And you were like, I'm on it.
Nicole Byer
But they didn't. They didn't seem to understand it. Do you remember in Greece where I could speak Greek for a little bit?
Mano
Yeah, I do. I do. Because you got too hot. You got cooked. And stuff happened.
Nicole Byer
I got cooked. They beat me with a wig. And it was.
Mano
It was a. I really regret taking us to a hot place.
Nicole Byer
It was a hot Turkish bath where we got. We got, I don't know, bathed up. I loved it. Someone bathed me.
Mano
Yes. But there was a cold water option that you didn't find out about until way too late.
Nicole Byer
No. And I was so hot the whole time. And also they gave me these, like one use panties that were like one size fits everybody, and they didn't fit over my labia. So then I was just wearing my underwear because I was like, I got to have my labia covered with my friend.
Mano
It was.
Nicole Byer
We're close, but not that close.
Mano
It was not ideal.
Nicole Byer
No. And then they kept dumping hot water on me. And then our driver was speaking Greek and I was like, mano, I think she's trying to say this to you. And you were like, oh. And she also was like, ugh. And then she said something else and I was like. She asked if you learned Greek in school or through your family. And both of you were like, oh, my God. And then it just went away.
Mano
You. You had magic powers. It cooked your brain. Remember when you were driving a dune buggy and how scared I was when you were driving us in the dune buggy? Yes.
Nicole Byer
But I had a lovely time. I love it so much.
Mano
You're a great driver. But I was just like, people die. And to be fair, in Mykonos, people die every year on ATVs.
Nicole Byer
They can see why there's no rules in Mykonos. And I loved it.
Mano
It was fun.
Nicole Byer
It's one of my favorite places.
Mano
We had a nice time.
Nicole Byer
And I was. Oh, no, I was still dating that dude when we were there. Because I wish I wasn't.
Mano
I know.
Nicole Byer
I think I would have fudged so hard.
Mano
I know.
Nicole Byer
Here's a question.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Has any psychic made a prediction about your love life that has come true? Ooh.
Guest or Listener Caller
Ooh.
Mano
Yes. Well, this is a crazy story. I was at the Eagle.
Nicole Byer
Uh huh.
Mano
And a man came up to me and said, I'm sorry, I have to read. I have to read your star chart. And I was like, okay, sure. He was like a handsome older man. And he was like.
Nicole Byer
I was like.
Mano
He was like, oh, yeah. And I was like, how old are you? And at the time I was like, 38. And I was like, I'm 38. And he goes, me, too. And I was like, okay, I'm dying. He was like, handsome. Me, too. I was like, he was handsome, but.
Nicole Byer
I was like, was he white?
Mano
I think he might have been Latinx. I'm not sure.
Nicole Byer
But I don't know not to read the whites, but sometimes they don't age too good.
Mano
Yes, yes, he was really handsome, but he just was lying for some reason. I was like, just say you're 53, 4 5, 38.
Guest or Listener Caller
Me, too.
Nicole Byer
Me too. I'm dying. That's really funny.
Mano
And I was like, okay. So then he was cuckoo coo. He was, you know, telling him when I was born, he was doing the horoscope star chart thing, and he's actually, like, saying some things that are dead on about. About my partner, about my family. He was also like, you're gonna make a lot of money. And then I was like, ooh, I like this. I love you. Like, he was like, you're gonna make a lot of money.
Nicole Byer
Ooh.
Mano
Okay.
Nicole Byer
Did he say when? He just.
Mano
I don't know. He just said in. In the coming years.
Nicole Byer
That's tough because, like, what if you make a lot of money right before you die? At, like. I know. 110.
Mano
I know. At 110, who knows? Science is gonna get crazy.
Nicole Byer
I know. And I don't want it.
Mano
No. You don't want it?
Nicole Byer
I don't want to. No. My grandpa's 97 fucking years old.
Mano
I know.
Nicole Byer
All of his friends are dying.
Mano
I know.
Nicole Byer
Every time I talk to him, he's like, this person died. This person died.
Mano
My dad made it to 98.
Nicole Byer
I know.
Mano
And he kept being like. He just kept being like, when you get that old, you're just like, I don't know. See you tomorrow.
Nicole Byer
Or I won't see you tomorrow, but maybe I won't.
Mano
You have a huge sense of humor about it. I'll say that much. Okay, so here's the gag. This man's reading my star chart, and then, unprompted, reaches his hand into the back of my pants, puts his finger up my asshole, and he says, oh, you, anus is in Mars.
Nicole Byer
What?
Mano
And I was like, uh. And for some reason, I wasn't like.
Nicole Byer
Get out of there.
Mano
For some reason, I was like. It was so funny that I was like, huh? What? Like, he just kind of. He wasn't all the way in, but he was like kind of in. And he. I was like, wha. What do you mean? And he was like, yeah, you're fiery. That's where your fire is. I Can feel like you have Mars in your chart and like you hold it in your body, in your anus, and he's just getting his finger right in my butthole. And here's the weird part. Instead of stopping him, I treated it. You know when sometimes in life you treat it like you're in a sketch? And I was just like, what do you mean, expound? Yes, clarify.
Nicole Byer
That was so. I think it's like, it's like a flight. Flight Fight.
Mano
Fawn.
Nicole Byer
Fawn. I think you fawned.
Mano
I fawned.
Nicole Byer
You were just like, oh, okay. Thank you so much for being up in there.
Mano
Yeah, I just remember, like, it was so fun that I was like, what do you mean, clarify? And then I think he was gagged because he was expecting me to go.
Guest or Listener Caller
Ooh, goo, goo, goo, or get out of there.
Nicole Byer
He was expecting some kind of reaction because he sexually assaulted you in public.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
That is nuts. I wonder if that's his kink and that's how he gets to his.
Mano
I think it's his move, sticking his.
Nicole Byer
His finger up people's butts, but he, like, gets them in with, like a star chart. There's a man in New York City who wraps himself up in like a carpet and wants people to step on him.
Mano
What would you do if the nice man in your life was like, I need to be carpet stepped on?
Nicole Byer
I think I could. I. I think I would be like, okay, well, I mean, if that's, if that's what you need to get off, I'm willing to explore that with you.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Because if I had a weird freaky thing that I came to him with, I know for a fact he would be like, okay, yeah, well, let's talk this through.
Mano
Let's figure this out. Okay, let's figure this out.
Nicole Byer
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Mano
I. I would figure it out.
Nicole Byer
I think I would figure it out. Like, okay, sure, I guess.
Mano
Isn't that nice? Yeah, that is nice. Or I would be like, go find someone to go do that. I'm not doing that. Go. You go. You go. Go on the apps and find.
Nicole Byer
Find out Lindsay had she found something that I did not know what. So your first. You lost your virginity to a man on your college salsa dancing team. I don't know if we've talked about this.
Mano
I don't know if we have either.
Nicole Byer
Well, you might have the first time you were on the podcast, but I simply.
Mano
I don't think we did.
Nicole Byer
Don't remember that.
Mano
I don't think we did. No. And I don't think he knew it. Was my virginity either? Because I was like, trying to be cool and chill.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
You know what I mean?
Nicole Byer
Absolutely.
Mano
Because at that point, I mean, it was. I was like 20, maybe 21, which.
Nicole Byer
Is a normal fine. I think losing virginity in your 30s, in your 40s, it is normal. It is, whatever. That's just when you lose it. But like, I think we tend to put things on top of that to be like, oh, I. Why is it taking so long? But Sexy Back by Justin Timberlake was playing.
Mano
Sexy Back by Justin Timberlake was playing when? While I lost my virginity.
Nicole Byer
I think that's really iconic and I love it.
Mano
And at the time I was like, wow, I'm cool. Like, I was like. I thought I was living in Queer as Folk. Like, I felt like I was on. In the movies, on tv. Like, I really did it.
Nicole Byer
I'm obsessed. Did you feel like Brian or were you Justin?
Mano
Ooh, Brian.
Nicole Byer
Okay.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
I love Brian.
Mano
He's so hot.
Nicole Byer
I have seen Queer as Folk more times than I can count.
Mano
I know that one scene where. Remember the scene where they're like, there's no music and it's just like. They amplify the sounds of the bedroom. There's one sex scene, I think, between.
Nicole Byer
Between Brian and Justin. Yes. I mean, it's just like sheets. I'm pretty sure that's like the first time, maybe. And then he was like, rim me. And he was like, okay, sure. And he's like, you don't know how to rim. And it's like, no, he's 17.
Mano
Which is, you know, it is funny.
Nicole Byer
How.
Mano
So Sexy Back was playing. And then I slept with a man on the college salsa dancing team. I've since been like, haha, that was crazy. And then I slept with two other men on my college's salsa dancing team. After that I just said, I like that.
Nicole Byer
That's good for me. Salsa right in my butt.
Mano
And then I infiltrated my college's Bhangra dancing team.
Nicole Byer
What is Bhangra dancing?
Mano
Bhangra is like Indian. An Indian folk dance. And so I was like, well, let's keep the dance. The dancers are working out.
Nicole Byer
I really like that that you were like, this is what I like. I like ethnic dancing.
Mano
Yes. Because I used to Greek dance. Did you know this? No, I didn't know you used to Greek competitively. Greek dance. I have a bronze. Regional, which is the Olympics.
Nicole Byer
Oh, regional.
Mano
Regional. Like a regional Greek dancing competition in Atlanta, Georgia. I have a bronze. Because we dedicated our lives to learning the specific Greek dances from the island of Thraki and got the costume perfect and like, did it well enough to earn a bronze.
Nicole Byer
And you've never taught me any of this.
Mano
I know Grecian dancing. Yeah, Greek dancing.
Nicole Byer
Can I say Grecian?
Mano
Usually Grecian Are items like Grecian vases. Like, items are usually Grecian.
Nicole Byer
Oh, I see.
Mano
And people is usually Greek.
Nicole Byer
I can't believe you've taught me no Greek dancing.
Mano
I know. Okay, let's do it. You want me to do it at your funeral? You want me to dance on your casket?
Nicole Byer
Yes, dance right on that casket.
Mano
You gonna rent.
Nicole Byer
Can I? Wait, What? What? What did you say?
Mano
You said you're gonna rent the casket.
Nicole Byer
I am gonna rent the casket.
Mano
You could just invest and just have it ready to go for when you do dine.
Nicole Byer
Imagine it's just like in my garage. Just a casket. I mean, I had my some like there was water damage in my garage and there was guys working on it and I had taken everything out of the garage. And they were trying to figure out what I did as a live for a living based on what they found in the garage. And they came in and unanimously said clown. And it hurt my feelings until I really thought about it and I was like, well, yeah, I guess. I guess I am a little bit of a clown.
Mano
You dressed a sexy Elmo.
Nicole Byer
They found a life size dummy that had been spray painted poorly. A bag with dicks in it. Like dildos and whatnot. A sword that was not mine. I don't know whose sword this is. Roller skates, a fishing pole, a bag with dicks on it.
Mano
That banner for our 43rd birthday.
Nicole Byer
Yes. There was just a lot of stuff. And they were like, must be a clown.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
And I was like, well, I guess I am a silly billy and you are.
Mano
We are. We spent so many years to, like, buying this stupidest thing for the stupidest reason. Like buying an inflatable hammer because you're like, this sketch has to go.
Nicole Byer
I need it in this sketch. I mean, I have two chest plates.
Mano
Yeah. Wait, like, like male presenting or female presenting?
Nicole Byer
Female.
Mano
Love.
Nicole Byer
That match my skin almost perfectly.
Mano
That's awesome. When do you get to whip them out? Now.
Nicole Byer
When the occasion arises. Okay, well, I wore one for a show that Marcy and I did. Dressed up. Oh, you look so good from 90 Day Fiance.
Mano
You looked so good.
Nicole Byer
Thank you so much. And then I wore. I wore it again for a meeting. Yeah, A Hollywood meeting. The jury's out on if I got it.
Mano
Wore it for a Holly. I need more information.
Nicole Byer
I'LL tell you. Hollywood.
Mano
Okay, I'll tell you a Hollywood meeting.
Nicole Byer
Uh huh.
Mano
How's Ed doing? How's Big Ed doing from.
Nicole Byer
You know, I'm not a huge fan of Ed because I think he is a terrorist. But he has not been on the iterations I've been watching. He might be a 90 day diary, but I'm not sure.
Mano
Okay.
Nicole Byer
But truly not for me. Simply rude. Seems nasty. Not a treat. I don't like him.
Mano
Seems bad. Go to the questions, girl. Go to the questions. I can't believe there's this much research about me.
Nicole Byer
Yes, because sometimes Lindsay finds out something.
Mano
That I don't know.
Nicole Byer
Don't know about you. But I think that was the one. The one thing that I didn't see one. That was the juicy. Juicy.
Mano
Are we gonna go to a scary thing this season together?
Nicole Byer
I would like to. We were gonna see Hocus Pocus with Ginger Minj and others.
Mano
What happened?
Nicole Byer
Well, they changed the day and I don't remember getting an email about it. And I can't make it to the day that it changed to.
Mano
That sucks.
Nicole Byer
Isn't that rude?
Mano
That sucks. You know, since you messed. Since you've left. Drag her. You wanna hear one of our new. The new rumors we've spread around about Ginger Minj?
Nicole Byer
What rumor are you spreading?
Mano
That Ginger Midge is in the Epstein files.
Nicole Byer
Oh, no.
Mano
Prove me wrong. Prove me wrong.
Nicole Byer
You heard it here first. Release the Epstein files.
Mano
If Ginger wants to be exonerated, Release the files. Let's get to it. But no, seriously, about spooky times.
Guest or Listener Caller
Mono. What an awful rumor.
Nicole Byer
That's so funny. Meatball's rumor about, like, Monet is she had a bbl and you were like, we're telling people she's in the Epstein file. Mono.
Mano
She's from Florida. She spent.
Guest or Listener Caller
What does that mean?
Mano
She spent a lot of time in Florida.
Guest or Listener Caller
Mono. You can't spread that rumor.
Mano
I'm sorry. Okay, okay, okay. Look, I. Look, I want her to be exonerated.
Nicole Byer
Release the fo. It's so wild that, like, it's crazy. There's a list. There's a literal who has it?
Mano
And no one will.
Nicole Byer
Who has it?
Mano
I don't know. All the wrong people got it.
Nicole Byer
But I'm like, is it a PDF?
Mano
Yes. Where are the hackers? Aren't the hackers.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
Hackers are.
Nicole Byer
Where are the hackers?
Mano
Where did the hackers go?
Nicole Byer
I thought the hackers, like, instead of sending me a text message, being like, hey, do you want to come to this party on Friday? And I'm like, what? Who is this unknown number? Go get the files.
Mano
Go get the files.
Nicole Byer
Don't try to take my credit card information.
Mano
Stop sending me voicemails about a loan that I've been approved for. Have you gotten those yet?
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
Oh my God.
Nicole Byer
An auto loan.
Mano
That's so scary.
Nicole Byer
I once went to a haunted house in New York and I got like, recognized. One of the like, zombies was like, oh, nailed it. And I was like, aren't you supposed to. He's like, yes. Can you stay in character? I kind of was like, yeah, stay in character. But also it was really fun.
Mano
They do that to Betsy. Oh. All the time. They're like, hey, hey, Dabby, got some weed? Or like, hey, aren't you. Aren't you supposed to be a ghost?
Nicole Byer
Like, that's really funny.
Mano
It's really, it's really.
Nicole Byer
They cannot stay in character. They're just that excited.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
We were in Amsterdam. I remember we had a nice time and we were shit faced and then decided to go to one more bar. And then the bar was so crowded and everybody knew Betsy and it was so funny. They were just like, just like encroaching in on her and it was like, I have to save my friend.
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
What a nice time.
Mano
That was a really nice time. Amsterdam was cute.
Nicole Byer
I loved Amsterdam.
Mano
Those boats.
Nicole Byer
I loved them little boats. It's kind of wild that they just let you on that canal and you have to figure it out. Yeah, I got you. Get lost. You figure it out.
Mano
You got lost so many times in those damn canals.
Nicole Byer
Truly. Did you Mono. This is a dating podcast.
Mano
Yes. Ask me. Yeah.
Nicole Byer
What is your advice for single people?
Mano
Okay.
Nicole Byer
And how they can get not scared.
Mano
Okay, this is gonna. Okay, here we go. Ready? If you. Okay, here's the annoying. The annoying advice is if you feel beautiful, people think you're beautiful. And every time I have felt my jush or just like channeled the things that I am good at and sounds weird, but like, if I'm like smiling or just being this version of myself where I am a little goofy, a little charming as opposed to trying to be this other thing that I am not, it works out a lot better. Cause especially in like queer male community, there's a lot of men, there's a lot of posturing and trying to be more masculine or tougher, more mysterious. If you can do that, God bless, I can.
Nicole Byer
I like that advice. It's truly like, just be yourself.
Mano
No one's ever said it before.
Nicole Byer
Just be it. Well, I know it's real.
Mano
Though.
Nicole Byer
But it is real. It is nice.
Mano
And I think, yeah, it really is real. I think there's the way that, yeah, I think there's a way to say this same thing in a different way, but I can't think of it.
Nicole Byer
I don't think you need to say it in a different way. I think it's really nice. It's just like. Just figure out who you are and be yourself. Because once you love yourself and you're like, so solid in who you are, when you meet your person, they're gonna love that person.
Mano
Don't you feel like more attention? Have you felt more amorous? Just more intention in general? Since you have felt more comfortable in your situation with your man.
Nicole Byer
Say that again.
Mano
Do you feel like that, that whole thing, when it rains, it pours. Now that you're in this incredibly secure place, do you. And you feel, you know, you're giving off this secured energy. Do you feel more people, like lighting a flame to you, like, being like.
Nicole Byer
Yes, I'll be like, with him and people will like, kind of, like, kind of hit on me and like, what is this?
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
When I didn't have him, nobody was hitting on me. This is weird.
Mano
Yes, it's very weird.
Nicole Byer
Oh, wait, we have run out of time. But I did want to talk about your birthday party.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
Where you had a. Oh, my God. A Galinda impersonator.
Mano
God damn it.
Nicole Byer
And how did Jean find her?
Mano
I think she was found on, like, something called, like celebrity lookalike.com or something.
Nicole Byer
This woman had the most confidence I've ever seen. And someone took a video of her getting into her Toyota Corolla fully in her, like, her cosplay. And it fried me in a way that, like, I had, like, it was such a treat to watch. I.
Mano
It was Los Angeles.
Nicole Byer
Incredible.
Mano
Los Angeles in five seconds.
Nicole Byer
Yes. And I hope somebody took a video of me getting into my car looking like this because I drove here like this.
Mano
Yes. That was crazy. I was shocked. And I was trying to have a low key birthday party that was taken away from me. No, but it was, it was lovely and. But it was like somehow the most intense moment of my life where everyone gathered in a circle around me and then this Glinda impersonator showed up to sing songs and may I say, not Glinda impersonator. Ariana Grande doing Glinda impersonator.
Nicole Byer
Oh, I didn't realize it was that specific.
Mano
It was her. Because you haven't seen the movie.
Nicole Byer
I haven't seen the movie, but I will be Seeing the second part.
Mano
God damn it. Why must you do this?
Nicole Byer
It's one of my favorite things to do, to only be informed about the second part of movies.
Mano
So that's. You'll see why. Like her. Her impersonation just of the movie's version, which made it more insane. And she sang at my face for 25 minutes.
Nicole Byer
It was iconic.
Mano
It was really fun.
Nicole Byer
And then we had to say nice things about. I loved it. It was so wonderful. And it was like.
Mano
It was really nice.
Nicole Byer
It felt very thoughtful because it was like, you love a silly thing. So Jean made sure something silly happened on your birthday.
Mano
Yeah. And that was another. That's another. Really. I mean, when you get a partner, make sure they are someone who celebrates you when. Even when you ask not to be celebrated.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Mano
And he was like, no, we need to do something to celebrate you. Even though I was like, no.
Nicole Byer
I also love that you dressed each other. And he was like, I feel like shit.
Mano
I dressed him as me, and he looked, like, wearing a stupid Mario shirt.
Nicole Byer
He looked adorable.
Mano
He looked great. But he was like. I was like, that's. That's what I really wanted for my birthday was you. To you to dress like me, which is just so.
Nicole Byer
It's so funny, and it's so silly. And I love that he was like, I don't like this, but I'm willing to do this for you.
Mano
Okay, let me ask you this question. What do you think about couples? Because we both are in relationships where we are. We're balanced by our opposite. Yeah. What about people who are the same who date people who are just like, we're the same?
Nicole Byer
That freaks me out. No, it. It exists.
Mano
I think it exists.
Nicole Byer
And I saw a couple like that at the airport. I was leaving Las Vegas, and this couple was Las Vegas.
Mano
In Las Vegas. They were dressed identical. Yeah.
Nicole Byer
It was a burly woman and a burly man, and they had their Tevas strapped to their feet. They had their cargo shorts past their knees. They had their shirts with anime something on it tucked in with the belt. They had their backpacks for hiking, but nobody was going on a hike. And I was like, whoa, how. How does that work out that you just. You dress identical? And then their faces, they were different ethnicities, but their faces were almost the same. It was wild.
Mano
People love to theyself.
Nicole Byer
I don't understand. I don't want to myself.
Mano
I. E. That's a lie. I. I think I would like to myself, but I've never done it. I've never. Someone who looked like Me, I don't think.
Nicole Byer
Me either. Yeah, I. I tend to get turned off a little bit when. When. Because I've been on dates where people like, they look similar to me and I'm like, oh, I don't know about that. That's too much.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
I don't want to me.
Mano
I don't want to fuck me.
Nicole Byer
I want to love me and I.
Guest or Listener Caller
Want to love me I give my all to do Hide. Just one night with you Boo. Boo.
Nicole Byer
Well, that's it. We've come to the end.
Guest or Listener Caller
Is this the.
Mano
The scariest? In a way, this is probably the scariest episode.
Nicole Byer
Scariest episode. I'm sure the people watching it are just hiding behind their fingies.
Mano
Did you watch Weapons?
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
Oh, so good.
Nicole Byer
I loved Weapons.
Mano
So crazy.
Nicole Byer
I loved it so much.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
And I was reading some reviews about it and some people like, didn't like it. And I was like, but why? I know it was. The payoff at the end was so delicious.
Mano
Delicious.
Nicole Byer
And I was haha, teeheeing.
Mano
Haha.
Nicole Byer
Screaming through it. And then there was parts that were so scary that I was like, oh my God. I've had several people after watching that movie being like, nicole, you have to lock the doors of your car. And I'm like, no, I will never lock the doors.
Mano
You don't.
Nicole Byer
It's a Jeep. It's a soft top Jeep. If you want in, the windows are plastic. You can get in.
Mano
I have a. We both have a nice friend. I don't want to out her, but we have. And she's nice. And this is nice. What I'm saying is nice. She leaves her doors unlocked at night in case someone wants to sleep in her car.
Nicole Byer
Yeah.
Mano
She's like, if someone wants to get in there, I want them to get in there.
Nicole Byer
I also, I have $20 under. In the, like in the thingy, the. What's that called? The center console? Yeah. Just a note that says if you need it, take it.
Mano
Wow. Yeah, I mean, if you lose 20 bucks, you lose 20 bucks. Who cares?
Nicole Byer
Yeah, I don't mind.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
And if you're. If you're looking for the money, it means you need it. So who am I to not help you? This is mutual aid, what I'm doing.
Mano
Elmo. Nice.
Guest or Listener Caller
Elmo wants you to have mommy and sex. Oh, mano mano Elmo. Elmo admonishes you. Elmo says, no nasty.
Nicole Byer
What does Chucky sound like? Like a grown man.
Mano
He really does sound like. You bitch. You slut.
Nicole Byer
I'll teach you to with me. Does he call people sluts?
Mano
Oh, he's a. He's a very foul mouth.
Nicole Byer
I don't think I've seen Chucky.
Mano
Oh, it's fun.
Nicole Byer
I know the, like, the. The lore of Chucky. Yeah, he gets bought, he gets open, he terrorizes, and then he gets married later on to, like, a cute little Chucky.
Mano
Right. See, before that, a famous serial killer put his spirit inside the doll. So, like, on his own, he did, like, a voodoo curse. And then that, like, he, like, he was like, oh, no, the cops are about to kill me. Let me do a voodoo curse so I can live on through and put my spirit in this doll.
Nicole Byer
That is some real evil shit. That's like Hocus pocus. Those three sisters who are like, we're gonna, like, lock ourselves, our souls up in that book or whatever.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
And then a virgin lights the candle and we're coming back. I don't get that kind of evil where you, like, you're like, I have to keep living so I can keep being evil. Like, I'm not evil. And I. When I'm dead, let me be dead.
Mano
Yeah. You don't wan. Continue.
Nicole Byer
I don't want to come back. Are you kidding? I'm tired.
Mano
I. I feel. I'm. I'm starting. I'm at the beginning of tired. I'm like, I. I see why people are. Are over it.
Nicole Byer
When they're over it. Like, come back.
Mano
No.
Nicole Byer
To this hole. For what? No, it's bad here.
Mano
No. I got to go to Toys R Us.
Nicole Byer
Excuse me. Is that heaven?
Mano
Yeah, for me. What's your heaven?
Nicole Byer
I don't know, but how do you.
Mano
Feel about Jeffrey the Epstein?
Nicole Byer
No. Jeffrey.
Mano
Jeffrey the Epstein Giraffe.
Nicole Byer
Do you remember KB Toys?
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
That was like, the lesser of the two.
Mano
Yeah. It was not as nice. Cause it was also, like, smaller.
Nicole Byer
It was smaller.
Mano
And they always had the vibrating toys outside. Did your KB Toys have that?
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
What is that?
Nicole Byer
To lure you in. To lure the children in. To be like, mama, something is buzzing over there. Can we please go in?
Mano
This is also. You were talking about COVID ups. Why are RuPaul's suits always Klein, Epstein, and Parker?
Nicole Byer
Mano, this has to stop, Moto. You're sullying good people's names trying to.
Mano
Get to the bottom of this. If our government won't do it. I need to uncover this.
Nicole Byer
It is so wild that you're attacking LGBTQIA plus. Oh, Quia. What did I say?
Mano
Add more letters.
Nicole Byer
Oh.
Guest or Listener Caller
Oh.
Mano
Lgbtq.
Nicole Byer
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, q, u. I D2R. 2 D2R. R. You know, little Dumpster. Anyway, you have not attacked anyone bad. You've only attacked good people.
Mano
You mean Ginger Minj? Jeffrey Epstein, Giraffe?
Nicole Byer
What did Jeffrey the giraffe do? What did Ginger Minj do? What did RuPaul do to you?
Mano
Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. I just want answers. I. I want answers.
Nicole Byer
We want answers.
Mano
If there's nothing to hide, there's nothing to hide.
Nicole Byer
Let's see the files. Come on. Elliot Musk. Release the files. I think he's got them.
Mano
He's. He seems to got em also.
Nicole Byer
I think maybe our president has them. Yeah, I think he's. You heard it here first.
Mano
You heard it here first.
Nicole Byer
Scariest thing you've ever heard.
Mano
This was a scary episode.
Nicole Byer
I think our president's bad.
Mano
I don't know if he's doing the best job.
Nicole Byer
They didn't send their best when they sent their geriatrics to run for president.
Mano
Jeez. Do you see?
Nicole Byer
See what?
Mano
Nothing.
Nicole Byer
Okay, we'll end his neck use. Excuse me.
Mano
Our president has a neck osy.
Nicole Byer
What's Necco see?
Mano
A neck pussy.
Nicole Byer
Oh, he does have a neck pussy. It is kind of wild. Gobble, gobble it. Truly.
Mano
Oh, it's now. It's November.
Nicole Byer
Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble. Do you think Melania. I almost called her Juliana. Do you think Melania at night fingers his neck pussy?
Mano
Yes.
Nicole Byer
And she's like, I hate my life. I'm a mamma Mia. I hate my life. Yah. Yahoo. I hate my life. Also, I don't love talking about people's looks, but that child that they produced is scary looking. He looks like the Babadook. He's so tall.
Mano
He looks like a crystal ball with a toupee on top of.
Nicole Byer
It's interesting. I mean, I don't want to be like, he's ugly. He is. He is. He's different looking.
Mano
He's very different looking. He looks. He kind. He kind of looks like a bowl of punch.
Nicole Byer
Mano. Would you date me?
Mano
Yes. But I think we'd be bad together.
Nicole Byer
I also think. I think we would enable each other every night to do something terrible.
Mano
That's true. I can't say no to you.
Nicole Byer
I can't say no to you.
Mano
Yeah, that would be bad. So. Yeah. Yes. I think it would be really toxic. I think we would hug each other too much, talk too much. Yeah.
Nicole Byer
I don't think we would ever get sleep. I think we just like stay awake at night being like, I have something funny to say.
Mano
Yeah.
Nicole Byer
It'd be bad. Do you have anything you want to promote?
Mano
Yes. If you enjoyed this unhinged episode, you can listen to Drag her, that host with Oscar Montoya, who's wonderful and iconic and amazing. We also have a show, Bad Drag Race.
Nicole Byer
Yes.
Mano
You can come see the finale.
Nicole Byer
I will be there November 15, 2025, at Dynasty.
Mano
TBR. That's right.
Nicole Byer
And you could get tickets where you could watch it at home.
Mano
Yes. Yeah, we might do livestream.
Nicole Byer
Oh, wait, you don't do it.
Mano
We stopped doing livestream.
Nicole Byer
Just kidding. You can't watch it at home. You gotta come in person.
Mano
You gotta come in person. And we love Trash with Betsy. Sedaro is awesome and she's. We love Betsy. And I get to talk about trash and bad movies with her. So go listen to that too.
Nicole Byer
I love that, you guys. You can like it. Go right out and go subscribe. You can give me five stars on Apple Podcasts. And if you write me something nasty, this mono.
Mano
What?
Nicole Byer
This can't be good for your health. Eating lipstick. And now it's in your mustache. If you like this episode of why Won't yout Date Me? Okay, I said that already. Okay, okay. If you write me something nasty, hitting on me to why won't you date me podcast, gmail.com, i will read it. Hey, Nicole, Should I read it as Elmo?
Mano
Yeah. Yes.
Guest or Listener Caller
Yes, Elmo. Hi, Nicole. It's Halloween night and you're dressed as a ghost. Just a sheet with two holes. One for your eyes and one for your pussies. I show up at your door.
Mano
What?
Guest or Listener Caller
I show up at your door as a trick or treater, but you tell me you have something better than candy.
Mano
Yes. Yes. Take a break. Take a break.
Guest or Listener Caller
Then you flip your sheet over my head and ride me like a broomstick, screaming boo. Every time you come. By the time the night is over, the neighbors think your house is actually hot. Happy Halloween. Love, Johnny. He him.
Mano
Wow.
Guest or Listener Caller
Elmo says bye.
Mano
Bye.
Nicole Byer
Oh, you've been listening to why won't you date me with me, Nicole Byer. This show is produced and edited by Mars, with executive producer Anya Kanefskaya. It's engineered by Casey Donahue with guest research by Lindsay Kempf. Our VP of content at Headgum is Katie Moose, and our thief music is arranged by Mike Comate. Ah, thanks for listening. We'll be back next week with a brand new episode. See you then. Okay, bye Bye.
Mano
That was a hategam podcast.
Lamorne Morris or Hannah Simone
What's going on?
Mano
It's Lamorne Morris and Hannah Simone and.
Lamorne Morris or Hannah Simone
We host The Mess Around a New Girl Rewatch Podcast now on Headgum. Now here's the thing. Every single week we chat about an episode of New Girl. And we really get into it. Like, we get up in there. We get up in there. You know, we reminisce about our times on set. We share behind the scenes tea. We react to rewatching episodes that we haven't seen in years. We talk about how Jake Johnson, his.
Mano
Dog, that's not true. We talk about so many memories we have of working with the biggest stars on the planet. I'm talking Prince Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo.
Lamorne Morris or Hannah Simone
We're just two BFFs having a good old time. Okay? Sometimes we even talk to other co stars like Zooey Deschanel, Jake Johnson, Max Greenfield, and Damon Wayans Jr. And your dad. We talked to your dad on this show as well.
Nicole Byer
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Guest: Mano Agapion
Theme: Halloween, Costume Chaos & Relationship Real Talk
This special Halloween episode bursts with laughter, offbeat costumes, and heartfelt conversations about love, friendship, and owning your weird. Nicole, dressed as a “slutty Elmo,” and Mano as “slutty Chucky,” swap wild stories ranging from haunted houses to haunted Zoom calls, all while gently unraveling the messy, hilarious realities of dating, being single, and being loved for who you are—even at your weirdest. The episode is full of raunchy humor, candid revelations, and an energetic, affectionate tone between longtime friends.
This Halloween episode showcases not only why Nicole Byer is one of the most delightfully unfiltered podcast hosts out there, but also how friendship and laughter—and sometimes even a “slutty Elmo” costume—can shine a light on life, love, and everything scary (and sexy) in between.
For more unhinged stories and wisdom, listen to Why Won’t You Date Me? wherever you get your podcasts!